Manchester United v Everton

[Bluedylan]

This keeps getting thrown around here and I still don't buy it.

I know you're fairly new to the site mate, so maybe don't have a handle on who had what opinion on him, so that's fair enough.There is the odd minority that were supporters of Moyes and are now critical of him, in fairness mainly due to what happened in the run up to and after he left. Other than that, the people who tended to support him still do and the people who were always critical still are, and I respect both sides for sticking to their opinion.

Cheers for the info. I've got an idea with a few people because the arguments still seem to crop up in different threads, but you're right, I don't know who thinks/thought what re: Moyes on the whole.

I was always a massive Moyes supporter, and I've had to really adjust my long held opinions since he left, because of his actions and his comments. It's not been easy, because I genuinely thought more of him as a man. So I suppose what I'm saying is that I'm surprised that both sides of the pro-Moyes/anti-Moyes debate 'are sticking to their argument' as you say.

I do think the people who have always been anti-Moyes are perhaps still going a bit too far with some of their comments.

[bacon sarnie]

Are the reports regarding Moyes press conference true... or is it just some pre match banter by fans....

Interesting comments: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2517418/Manchester-United-v-Everton-David-Moyes-expecting-mixed-reaction-Toffees-fans.html

[Gash]

I do think the people who have always been anti-Moyes are perhaps still going a bit too far with some of their comments.

That's part of the point, their comments have generally been pretty consistent. I don't think there's much that's gone to far, it's not like anyone's wishing harm to him, at worst they want him to fail. Between you and me, they wanted that for him here as well so that they can say "I told you so" but don't tell anyone I said that. 

I remember someone having a go at Les Trebilcock for his opinion, in reality it was pretty much the same thing Les had said for the last few years. People just seem to have become a bit more aware/sensitive to it since Moyes left.

[Jimmywhack]

Moyes takes credit for Evertons good start

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/9055469/premier-league-david-moyes-salutes-roberto-martinez-ahead-of-old-trafford-clash

seen the interview on ssn. Watching it and reading it it comes across very differently if you get me.

[sam of the south]

I was always torn on Moyes.

Loved the spirit he crafted and the effort and belief he demanded from his players; The Moyes toothy smile and maniacal fist pump was impossible not to love.

The respectful rhetoric and demeanor that he displayed, gave us back that veneer of class that we had been lacking since Joe Royle.

The playing style was often not to my taste though.

I rarely felt comfortable in a game when he was manager, we often seemed to invite pressure.

Too many high balls to Cahill and then Fellaini turned possession into a hit and miss lottery.

However, the overriding feeling is one of pride that we had him.

Two poignant, yet fairly base banners that were held up at the match after Rooney left read: ' We hate you so much, because we loved you so much' and 'You could have been a God but you chose to be a devil'

Similar could be written of Moyes.

[Audrey Horne]

Moyes would never have been a God here. I don't think he has the mentality for it. He doesn't seem to be a winner like Rooney is. Too cautious maybe?

Found this and think if I was a manager I would reenact it for my team

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DBmZ61e_nVA

[Audrey Horne]

It won't embed sorry

[blueski]

That's part of the point, their comments have generally been pretty consistent. I don't think there's much that's gone to far, it's not like anyone's wishing harm to him, at worst they want him to fail. Between you and me, they wanted that for him here as well so that they can say "I told you so" but don't tell anyone I said that. 

I remember someone having a go at Les Trebilcock for his opinion, in reality it was pretty much the same thing Les had said for the last few years. People just seem to have become a bit more aware/sensitive to it since Moyes left.

I think moyes could have been considerably more gracious and classy in the press regarding everton than he's been which is probably going to influence some opinions

[GLewis]

I've called him a bottler for years to be honest, because he is one

he is along the same lines as Gordon Lee, but without the charisma

won nothing, had some good results, signed some excellent players, but in 20 years will be remembered as the man who managed us before Martinez took over

Or without the ability to spend (or inherit) British record transfer fees.

We were also terrible in the last year(s) of Gordon Lee so less of a platform for Howie to build on...

[Simon Paul]

Or without the ability to spend (or inherit) British record transfer fees.

We were also terrible in the last year(s) of Gordon Lee so less of a platform for Howie to build on...

End product was the same though. And that's all most people reading history books will have to go on

[GLewis]

End product was the same though. And that's all most people reading history books will have to go on

If they only read statistical books with no narrative, yes

Plus we're still some way off finding out what's happened after his period.

[EFCtillidie]

Anyone know if you can buy ale in the away end tonight??

I'm presuming you can?!

[Dr. Sponge]

I don't know what people expected from Moyes when he left. He's in a new job so has complete loyalty to Man Utd. Fellaini was always going to leave as well, and he owes a lot of his development to Moyes.

Whatever has happened since Moyes left hasn't damaged the respect I have for what he did at our club, he was a good servant.

I'm just glad we seem to be on the up under Martinez.

Although I do feel that the grudges held by some fans will make for a fantastic atmosphere tonight... So I fully endorse it 😏

[wilbur]

Anyone know if you can buy ale in the away end tonight??

I'm presuming you can?!

You have always been able to in the past but I read something the other day about the area surrounding the ground now being an alcohol free zone. Maybe best to have a couple beforehand just to be on the safe side.   

[cantoffee]

I think the animosity will make for a great atmosphere so I am all for it.