Should we sack Koeman?

[American Evertonian]

For me if we choose to sack him we need to at least have an idea of who we would get to replace him. If they are worse of an option than he is then we need to keep him.

To me that is the ultimate deciding point.

[Ridge]

This is my take, too.

People say ‘there’s plenty of quality on the pitch, we should beat these’...followed by arguments as to whether we should have DCL or Niasse playing up front! They’re nowhere near good enough! Baines (sad but true), Jags, Niasse, DCL, Holgate, Vlasic (these last 3 will be decent, but not yet) are not top 7 Prem players.

The squad is massively unbalanced and seriously lacking quality in areas. I do now think Koeman has to go but I think he’s been royalty stitched by Walsh. Why would a manger who had great success with Mane decide to not bring in a pacey forward...or go into the season with one LB? He wouldn’t out of choice. And No striker...blah, blah - that’s been well documented.

I’m not sure any other manger could get us playing good attacking football when we just don’t have the players to do it.

Koeman had Reed and Wilson for recruitment at Southampton.

We got Sandro? DCL will get goals if he gets better supply. We relied on Barkley to create something, but football is a team sport and it's not too much to expect a team to be able to create.

Martinez inherited Fellaini and Jelavic and had no money and identified his own players. Koeman inherited Barkley and Lukaku and has seen £240m spent on 16 new players, vast majority have gone into first team.

We should surely be able to cope without Lukaku and we had enough people complaining Barkley didn't do enough. How come now we don't have a good enough team to beat Burnley or Brighton, or even give good performances.

[van der Meyde]

Don't let that put you off. Some of our fellow blues are dreadfully unimaginative. I've genuinely seen people suggesting Moyes and Martinez(argghh!!!). Stockholm syndrome is a muthafucka.

It's not the fans' lack of imagination I worry about. Just look at our summer transfer business!

I just want us to put some intelligent thought into our next appointment. Decide what qualities we want in a new manager - developing youth players would be a priority for me - and bring in somebody who demonstrably meets them.

[dekko]

I think he’s gone by the Leicester game. 3 really tough games ahead, even though 2 at Home, him and the team will be under pressure to win, will make mistakes, crowed gets frustrated, more mistakes by defense and we lose.
What frustrates me is that he’s just been changing players, formations, but feels like we’re playing with same style. Last year we were much more aggressive, fast, why not now? We do have some fast players (mostly on the bench).

[Robioto]

For the first time, I'm over the edge. I'm quite patient, but the time has come, get Koeman out.

[Lxxx]

I think he’s gone by the Leicester game. 3 really tough games ahead, even though 2 at Home, him and the team will be under pressure to win, will make mistakes, crowed gets frustrated, more mistakes by defense and we lose.
What frustrates me is that he’s just been changing players, formations, but feels like we’re playing with same style. Last year we were much more aggressive, fast, why not now? We do have some fast players (mostly on the bench).

Next three games could be argued to be 'expected losses' though, by Moshiri's own criteria. Surely Koeman is safe as houses having to deal with mental and physical fatigue as well as playing tough football matches.

Jesus wept.

[Mac934]

How 'small time'  is Moshiri, with the "expected losses" quote. How the fuck does he expect the team to perform after saying that. If they are mentally and physically fatigued now, we are totally fucked by January!!

[TheRam]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/16/shakhtar-donetsk-manager-paulo-fonseca-increases-prospect-everton/

[Jimmywhack]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/16/shakhtar-donetsk-manager-paulo-fonseca-increases-prospect-everton/

Handsome chap

[brap2]

Crikey jimbo

[Major Clanger]

Is he gone yet?

[Toddacelli]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/16/shakhtar-donetsk-manager-paulo-fonseca-increases-prospect-everton/

Quite like the sound of him at this point. Koeman has proved there are no guarantees.

I like to be patient and give people time but ok, I am all out of love for Koeman now.

How good are these 'sources' though? Were we really interested in him before? Does anyone know?

[sirblue57]

Handsome chap

who is she?

[Escla]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/16/shakhtar-donetsk-manager-paulo-fonseca-increases-prospect-everton/

He'll do for me !

[KoemansNumberTens]

Think if we started the poll again now there would be more than 80% want him gone today