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Title: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Silas on October 18, 2010, 03:31:23 PM
Another big game that could threaten to bring us down with a bump.  Tottenham have been superb so far this season and we will have to be at our best if we want anything from this.  Personally a draw would be a great result for us.

Even if the injury list remains the same and the players who got knocks in the derby are ok you just have to play the same team we played against the shite and show faith in those players who were excellent on that day. 

So,

                                 Howard

Neville             Jagielka     Distin           Baines

                                Heitinga

Coleman                  Arteta                   Osman

                              Cahill

                                 Yakubu

Hopefully Pienaar might be back which gives us an option.

1-1

Yakubu for us, VDV for them.         
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Mahoney on October 18, 2010, 04:26:55 PM
They've got a Champs league game this week (which they have to travel for) and then the early kick off against us on Saturday - hopefully this works in our favour.

Give me a draw right now and I'd take it. But I honestly think they are there for the taking. I agree with Silas... keep the faith Moyes and play the same team, they've earned the right to start (unless there are injuries).
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 18, 2010, 04:31:54 PM
A narrow Spurs win but it shouldn't put us down. I'm thinking more about Stoke.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 18, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
We will beat them. Defensively they are frail.
 
Yak to master-blast us to victory and Heitinga to batter his pal VDV into submission.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Connavar on October 18, 2010, 04:54:22 PM
Don't fix something that's not broke. Same team as yesterday for me.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Sres on October 18, 2010, 05:51:50 PM
I wouldn't say that spurs have been that good.  Lost at Wigan, lost at West Ham and a draw at West Brom blight their season so far.

We're a better side than all 3 of these teams.  Hopefully they'll still be recovering from playing Inter Wednesday.

2-0 Cahill x2
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 18, 2010, 05:59:45 PM
As good as we played in the derby, if Pienaar and Fellaini are fit they should start. I feel with the "if it's not broke don't fix it" attitude we could shoot ourselves in the foot, because Spurs will have a lot more to offer than Liverpool did, they're a far better side.

I don't know who I'd drop to the bench, but I have a feeling that injuries will pick the side for Moyes again. Pienaar for Osman, Fellaini for Heitinga or Arteta.

Yakubu is unstoppable when he's on form, as he showed in the derby. I just wish he'd stop hitting the floor at the drop of a hat.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on October 18, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
Wigan beat them so why can't we?

Spurs 0-2 Everton

Cahill (2)
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Silas on October 18, 2010, 06:29:45 PM
As good as we played in the derby, if Pienaar and Fellaini are fit they should start. I feel with the "if it's not broke don't fix it" attitude we could shoot ourselves in the foot, because Spurs will have a lot more to offer than Liverpool did, they're a far better side.

I don't know who I'd drop to the bench, but I have a feeling that injuries will pick the side for Moyes again. Pienaar for Osman, Fellaini for Heitinga or Arteta.

Yakubu is unstoppable when he's on form, as he showed in the derby. I just wish he'd stop hitting the floor at the drop of a hat.

It would be terrible man management to drop the players from yesterday unless they are injured.  Moyes has been critical of the team so when he praises them he has to back this up by sticking with them.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 18, 2010, 06:32:40 PM
Fellaini is out for 6 weeks, so it'll be Heitinga in midfield again.

If Pienaar is fir, then Osman should be dropped for him. Coleman to continue on the right and Ossie on the bench.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 18, 2010, 06:45:10 PM
It would be terrible man management to drop the players from yesterday unless they are injured.  Moyes has been critical of the team so when he praises them he has to back this up by sticking with them.

Good management would be putting a team out that he thinks is best equipped to beat Spurs at their ground.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blue for you on October 18, 2010, 06:52:21 PM
any chance saha will be fit he could do the job off the bench next weekend
the yak is due a goal
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on October 18, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
Brimming with confidence, when we get on a roll, we will go for months

Spurs will be without King leaving them week at the back, an inevitable battering by inter milan plus the journey, and our team is superior to theres.

2-0, if the yak gets his goalscoring touch back though it could easily be 4-0
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 18, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
Im worried about VDV, i hope they take a battering against inter, and have many players go off with injuries
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on October 18, 2010, 08:18:57 PM
Heitingas performance yesterday was absolutely woeful!!

They were just strolling straight into the final 3rd. Luckily we had Distan and Jags on form.

Drop him a place Hibbo at RB and Nev in Defensive mid.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 18, 2010, 09:43:38 PM
A narrow Spurs win but it shouldn't put us down. I'm thinking more about Stoke.

NSNO and all that...
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 19, 2010, 12:05:49 AM
Aside from their first game I don't think they've been that good this season, but they are a good side and have been getting results despite some middling form.

It'll be a tough game obviously but we'll have to wait and see how we patch up from our knocks on Sunday, plus how they do midweek (both in terms of result and any knocks they pick up if any).
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 19, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
If we beat them then we only 2 points behind them and our  start to this season will not look as bad anymore. I think we can take them. They were lucky against Fulham to win. Should of drawn that one.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 19, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
If we beat them then we only 2 points behind them and our  start to this season will not look as bad anymore. I think we can take them. They were lucky against Fulham to win. Should of drawn that one.

If we beat them and we are only 2 points behind them, it makes the start to the season all the more frustrating given the shit we played when we had a fully fit squad.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 19, 2010, 12:50:52 AM
If we beat them and we are only 2 points behind them, it makes the start to the season all the more frustrating given the shit we played when we had a fully fit squad.

Your life is all half empty at the moment...
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 19, 2010, 01:35:53 AM
Sure, but don't you feel it's another missed opportunity? Blackburn, Wolves, Newcastle games yeilded one point with a fully fit team. We should have had at least another 6 points to the 9 we already have, putting us up where we should be.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Robioto on October 19, 2010, 02:42:06 AM
This will be our toughest test so far this season IMO, but I think the Inter game on Wednesday could work in our favour. I think we will get a draw and then look to Stoke and Blackpool and get a futher 6 points.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Ridge on October 19, 2010, 03:37:08 AM
Sure, but don't you feel it's another missed opportunity? Blackburn, Wolves, Newcastle games yeilded one point with a fully fit team. We should have had at least another 6 points to the 9 we already have, putting us up where we should be.
Spilt milk, what's done is done and you can only change the future.

Yak looked like a monster since his mountaineering exploits, having a fit striker in form was what we were missing. The injuries are not as bad as last year and we don't have the volume of games that europe brought.

I fancy us to beat Spurs and beat them well, 2-0 or maybe 2-1 with a late Crouch goal.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gash on October 19, 2010, 03:54:02 AM
I can see us getting a result here. It'll be tight, but 1-2 I think. Although Spurs are a bit of a bogie team to us.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 19, 2010, 08:20:04 AM

Theyv'e got some top drawer players...but so have we...when yak get's his next the flood gates will open
for him......we couldn't moan at a draw...got to be a good time to go there on the back of a euro mid week
game though...keep it up lads...thanks for yesterday.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Sheedys left peg on October 19, 2010, 11:53:08 PM
Has anyone got any updates on our injured players.  Will any of those that went off in or missed the derby be available?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: EssexYid on October 20, 2010, 01:53:32 PM
We will beat them. Defensively they are frail.
 
Yak to master-blast us to victory and Heitinga to batter his pal VDV into submission.



I have noticed a few posts on here claiming that Spurs have a weak defence etc.  :wag:

The facts are that only Chelsea and Manchester City have conceded fewer goals than Spurs so far this season,  and that is despite the fact that Spurs have had a catalogue of injuries in their back Four this season.

Added to the fact that Spurs conceded just 10 goals at home in season 2008/9 the lowest amount of any team in the Premiership,  and again in 2009/10 Spurs conceded just 12 goals at home which was also the lowest amount of goals conceded by any team in the Premiership,  I really cant see where some of you are coming from with this idea that Spurs concede lots of goals especially at WHL because it is simply not true.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: kunal32 on October 20, 2010, 04:03:54 PM
You may well have conceded the fewest goals at home by any team but just to note we have won the last 3 out of 4 meetings at WHL :

0-2,1-3,0-1

Last year we really should have taken a point with that shocking miss by Landon.
Not saying we'll win but we've certainly reversed that hoodoo over the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bally on October 20, 2010, 05:19:32 PM
If everyone plays as they did in the previous game we will do them 0-3 with beckford scoring from the bench
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 20, 2010, 05:38:05 PM
We can win. They may have a Champs League hangover plus they haven't been excellent in the PL recently.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: wigster on October 20, 2010, 10:09:11 PM
does anyone know what the chances are of peanuts making it? possibly saha on the bench???
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 21, 2010, 01:59:16 AM
Looks like we're going to them off the back of an absolute spanking from Inter.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 21, 2010, 02:01:54 AM
Looks like we're going to them off the back of an absolute spanking from Inter.

Or the back of one of the greatest comebacks in history  ;)
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on October 21, 2010, 02:33:34 AM
Or the back of one of the greatest comebacks in history  ;)

No chance its 4-0 at HT could have been 7-8
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 21, 2010, 02:49:44 AM
No chance its 4-0 at HT could have been 7-8

Like I said greatest comeback in history...
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on October 21, 2010, 03:33:52 AM
4-3...
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 21, 2010, 03:36:25 AM
Brilliant Bale hattrick!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on October 21, 2010, 03:37:48 AM
I both love and fear Gareth Bale.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Craig_1878 on October 21, 2010, 04:48:02 AM
I both love and fear Gareth Bale.

I know what you mean, he's got one of them faces.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 21, 2010, 05:47:48 AM
That defeat will actually feel like a victory for Spurs. To be 4-0 down at half time away to the best team in Europe and then come back to narrowly lose is going to be confidence boost.

As for Bale, he'll be on cloud 9.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on October 21, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inter-milan-tottenham-(longer)-7274913/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inter-milan-tottenham-(longer)-7274913/)

Great goals with pinpoint accuracy, but they're all exactly the same - the Inter keeper should have learned after the first one not to assume it's going out.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 21, 2010, 06:42:46 AM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inter-milan-tottenham-(longer)-7274913/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inter-milan-tottenham-(longer)-7274913/)

Great goals with pinpoint accuracy, but they're all exactly the same - the Inter keeper should have learned after the first one not to assume it's going out.

I don't think he assumed any of them were going out, he was positioned pretty well for all of them and bar the second one didn't really have much of a chance to stop them.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 21, 2010, 03:19:53 PM
We'll just have to have Coleman do a similar sort of thing against them on Saturday.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 21, 2010, 05:13:52 PM
I'd rather Coleman watched and learnt from Bale than Hibbert!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 21, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
Three goals while down a man and a long way from home. Hell of a comeback. Hope they got it out of their system.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on October 21, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
I know what you mean, he's got one of them faces.

An evil ape that you can't help but love, despite that burning desire for World domination so clearly evident in those lovely sinister eyes of his.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 21, 2010, 09:20:03 PM
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv196/hkschaser/Gareth_Bale_Cornelius_Roddy_McDowal.jpg)
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2010, 01:55:20 AM
That defeat will actually feel like a victory for Spurs.

Apparently they are going to release a DVD of the second half.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on October 22, 2010, 03:58:34 PM
A few stats from OPTA

Rafael Van der Vaart has now netted four goals in his three appearances at White Hart Lane in all competitions.

Everton won none of their first 14 Premier League visits to White Hart Lane, then won three in a row before losing last seasonís encounter in north London.

Everton havenít won back to back Premier League away matches since May 2009.

Only one team has scored more than one goal in any of the last 40 Premier League games at White Hart Lane (Manchester United in September 2009).

Tottenham have conceded exactly one goal in their last seven Premier League games.

Three of Spursí four wins this season have been by two goals to one, the other ended 3-1.

Tottenham have scored 10 goals this season compared to 19 at the same stage last season.

Everton are one point better off than they were after eight games in 2008-09 when they went onto finish fifth.

Rafael Van der Vaart has hit a shot every 21.7 minutes, the fastest rate in the Premier League.

Steven Pienaar has won 3.5 fouls per game this season, more than any other player in the top flight.
Title: Leon Osman
Post by: kunal32 on October 22, 2010, 04:46:49 PM
Out for six weeks with an ankle injury
Title: Re: Leon Osman
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2010, 04:49:04 PM
Shit!  We are going to struggle without him.
Title: Re: Leon Osman
Post by: bigl1cks on October 22, 2010, 05:03:42 PM
Typical.
Title: Pressing Issues
Post by: Bily No Pace on October 22, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
Is this from the 'presser'? Seriously, why do everton hire such morons on their media team?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Thom on October 22, 2010, 05:29:28 PM
OS reporting that Osman is out of this one, whilst Arteta will have a late fitness test.

Bily in for Osman as the only change then for me. 1-1, with Yakubu for us and Van Der Vaart for them.
Title: Re: Leon Osman
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 22, 2010, 05:38:24 PM
Damn. Didn't think it seemed that serious. He shall be missed.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Mikel10 on October 22, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
Pienaar is back for this game.
Title: Osman out for 6 weeks
Post by: cambridge.blue on October 22, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6460637,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6460637,00.html)
Title: Re: Osman out for 6 weeks
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on October 22, 2010, 05:46:44 PM
pretty gutted tbh, has had 2 really good games at LM, but its a big chance for bily, i hope he can step up
Title: Re: Osman out for 6 weeks
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2010, 05:48:03 PM
Pienaar will be in before Bily though.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: wigster on October 22, 2010, 06:51:23 PM
does peanuts have a chance then blargins?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 22, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
So, what does midfield look like now? Heitinga, Bilyaletdinov, Arteta, Coleman, and Cahill?

And if Arteta can't go, what then? Are we looking at Neville holding with Heitinga farther up (or the other way around)?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Mikel10 on October 22, 2010, 09:01:21 PM
It will end up being Neville and Heitinga playing a very deep midfield line, isolating Cahill and Yakubu and providing zero creativity for the team unfortunatley. We just have to hope and pray that Pienaar and Mikel make it tomorrow as they are our match winners along with Cahill. We have a great chance if we're able to field those 2 as Spurs are missing King, Dawson, Defoe, Corluka and possibly Redknapp may rest a couple of first teamers depending on their energy levels from Wednesday.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Blue_Boy_Till_I_Die on October 22, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Can anyone recommend anywhere to drink before the game tomorrow?

Always struggle to find at pub round white hart lane for a few beers before the game.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 22, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
If Mikel misses out and Pienaar is fit we might see Pienaar played centrally, which I would be fine with. I think we'd have less control over the pace of the game then with Mikky in there but we'll be more direct and incisive, although also more open. Could be interesting, it better not be Heitinga and Neville in midfield, and I think Moyes would sooner drop Cahill deep than play with those two beside each other.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 23, 2010, 01:10:10 AM
2 1 up 5 to go, lose 3 2
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 01:43:12 AM
Can anyone recommend anywhere to drink before the game tomorrow?

Always struggle to find at pub round white hart lane for a few beers before the game.

It is a 12.30 kick-off!!!   :shock:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 01:44:22 AM
It is a 12.30 kick-off!!!   :shock:

That's at least 2 and half hours of drinkin' time.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 02:46:36 AM
That's at least 2 and half hours of drinkin' time.

That's 7:30am here, and probably about 4:30am for Confi.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: edbootle on October 23, 2010, 03:34:09 AM
That's 7:30am here, and probably about 4:30am for Confi.

5-30 AM Here. Coffee laced with brandy time
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 05:55:42 AM
That's 7:30am here, and probably about 4:30am for Confi.

So surely you'd just be finishing your drinkin' from the day before at that time.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:23:45 AM
So surely you'd just be finishing your drinkin' from the day before at that time.

If by drinking you mean essay then yes. It's essay season up in hurr.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Sprooly on October 23, 2010, 07:57:16 AM
Melbourne Victory (my a league team) play at 8:45 immediatley followed by spurs vs everton

there is a history of some games getting delayed up in brisbane and so if it is delayed it will cut into the spurs vs everton telecast ffs better not happen!
--------------------------------Howard------------------------
Neville------------Distin----------------Jags------Baines
-----------------Heitinga----------Arteta----------------------
Coleman---------------------------------------------Billy
---------------------------------Cahill------------------------
------------------------------------Yak------------------------
Guyue may get a run off the bench cos there is no one else to pick

i really dont know what to expect would love a win but a draw wouldnt be a horrible result
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 03:08:18 PM
Lads, I've had a few drinks, it's early mrning here, we're gonnna wi n today yak with a brace, and colemand with one. Love this club, fuck spurs, dorty london bastards can lick my balls. I ate chili poutine tonight, farting up a storn over here. Love yu all,

Canfooffee
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
5-30 AM Here. Coffee laced with brandy time

5:30 a.m. here as well for kickoff. Just around the time when a night of drinking starts getting interesting.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Scholar on October 23, 2010, 03:53:04 PM
Hoping Pienaar & Artetta make it. I think we have the players to win this one tactically. They're vulnerable through the center, if Yakubu and Cahill can get in front of their markers and use their strength, I can see Coleman, Arteta and Pienaar running into dangerous areas. Big day for Heitinga, but hoping he knows VDV well enough, it's Arteta vs Modric after that. We've a good chance here.
                     Howard
Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines
Coleman, Arteta, Heitinga, Baines
                    Cahill
                   Yakubu.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
If Mikel misses out and Pienaar is fit we might see Pienaar played centrally, which I would be fine with.
Been wanting to see this myself for awhile. Think Steven could do good things for us in the middle.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: dunkster on October 23, 2010, 04:28:10 PM
dini 7 who is an ITK on sos1878, says Arteta deffo out.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on October 23, 2010, 04:53:52 PM

                     Howard
Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines
Coleman, Arteta, Heitinga, Baines
                    Cahill
                   Yakubu.

Your asking a hell of a lot Baines arnt ya?

If Mikkys out i reckon Moyes will drop Cahill back and play Beckford and The Yak up top
Title: Team
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on October 23, 2010, 05:57:03 PM
Howard
Neville Jags Distin Baines
Coleman Heitinga Pienaar Billy
Cahill
Yak

subs: mucha, hibbert, duffy, baxter, gueye, beckford, saha
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Sprooly on October 23, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
damn disappointed about mikel missing
but at least pienaar is back
Title: Re: Team
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 06:00:06 PM
Glad to see Duffy and Saha back on the bench!

It's an interesting team to say the least as well but I can still see us getting a result.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 06:00:10 PM
Strong enough.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: RICH on October 23, 2010, 06:01:18 PM
gutted about arteta missing still think we will win
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Brownie20 on October 23, 2010, 06:04:07 PM
50-1 Yak to score first Everton to win 1-0. Tenner on it COYB
Title: Re: Team
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Very interesting -- from Pienaar in the middle to Saha on the bench again. And Bilya gets a start.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: VBlue on October 23, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
There starting XI does not concern me overly, 'cept VDV.  2-1 or 1-0 Everton.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Bibby on October 23, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Bily and Pienaar were swapped
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
Gomes, Hutton, Kaboul, Gallas, Assou-Ekotto, Lennon, Palacios, Modric, Bale, Van der Vaart, Crouch.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: American Evertonian on October 23, 2010, 06:24:46 PM
Moyes probably wants them to switch back and forth a lot to cause problems.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 06:28:49 PM
Very interesting -- from Pienaar in the middle to Saha on the bench again. And Bilya gets a start.

Saha hasn't been fit for 6 weeks.

I'm interested to see where Bily plays. Could be in the middle if Pienaar and Coleman wide.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 06:36:06 PM
That's 7:30am here, and probably about 4:30am for Confi.
5.30 mate
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: chang on October 23, 2010, 06:44:15 PM
Black armbands?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 23, 2010, 06:44:50 PM
Tottenham are fielding a strong squad. This will definitely be a close match.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 06:46:42 PM
Come on Blues!!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
Positive thus far.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 06:59:37 PM
We need to hassle Palacios as much as possible now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Sprooly on October 23, 2010, 07:05:25 PM
TOP CLASS!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
Baines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Get in there Bainesy lad
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:06:17 PM
Absolutely wonderful!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:07:25 PM
Blessing in disguise Arteta wasn't on to take it?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:08:28 PM
For fucks sake....
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Sprooly on October 23, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
for fuck sake everton
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:09:20 PM
Shit,
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:09:43 PM
Fuck sake, that is as soft as they come.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
What the hell was he doing!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: kunal32 on October 23, 2010, 07:10:25 PM
I think Moyes needs to give Mucha a run in the side. Howard needs a fucking good kick up his backside!!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:10:38 PM
I had a feeling that would happen.

For me, Howard needs to have a sit down now. His mistake early on set us on a bad spell, and OI just hope his mistake now doesn't end a good one.

 shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:12:21 PM
Inexcusable that, didnt realise just how bad it was til the replay.  Schoolboy stuff
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:12:52 PM
It was shocking. Awful, awful.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:13:52 PM
It is really annoying though. We're playing great football, and then a howler happens.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:14:02 PM
Cahill far too deep for my liking here.  More like a 5th midfielder than where he usually plays.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 07:17:59 PM
Coleman and Yakubu looking off the pace.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:19:03 PM
Coleman really struggling in this one so far, definitely showing his lack of experience.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:19:32 PM
Thought Yak has looked OK, it's Coleman and Bily that is worrying me.  Gueye on for 2nd half?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 07:20:24 PM
We started off playing quite well, just letting Tottenham have the ball now.

Also, I don't think Yak is off pace, he just hasn't seen much of the ball. When he has he won us the free kick.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 07:21:09 PM
lol another Yak nudge.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:23:03 PM
I'd take Nev off and put Hibbert on.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 07:23:16 PM
We really need Pienaar to step up.

I wish Peter Crouch would fuck off too, he falls over of the slightest touch, he is embarassing.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:23:59 PM
Can't stand the horrible streak of piss.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:25:04 PM
Complains about his awful timing too. Knob.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
How the fuck wasn't that a yellow card?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 07:26:20 PM
Give Gueye a chance if Bily doesn't improve.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
I wish Neville could kick a ball :headbang:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 07:30:08 PM
Fucking Neville! Shite.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:30:27 PM
We'd have a better chance if Nev stopped crossing the ball. Twice now he has put it in the stand so to speak.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
Really good move down the shitter!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 07:32:22 PM
Would be nice if Neville would actually support Coleman.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:33:55 PM
Bily nothing going forwards or defensively.  Get him off
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Baines needs to watch his flank. Free cross nearly cost us.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:35:37 PM
Bily nothing going forwards or defensively.  Get him off

Needs to step up considerably. I don't think he understands the effort required to keep a place in our team.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Father - it's not Baines, it's the passenger he has in front of him
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:37:51 PM
Bily has to come off. He just has not got into it. Beginning to doubt he ever will.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Danny on October 23, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
Funny I thought Bily was doing alright, he's not getting caught in posession or giving the ball away constantly like he normally does.

Unfortunately for him that still equates to a 6/10 performance he needs to get more involved in the right positions.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:40:31 PM
Bily has to come off. He just has not got into it. Beginning to doubt he ever will.

I have to say I'd generally not introduce a player to the Premier League away to Tottenham but there's no way Gueye will do any worse than Bily at the moment.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
I have to say I'd generally not introduce a player to the Premier League away to Tottenham but there's no way Gueye will do any worse than Bily at the moment.

This
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 07:41:46 PM
Coleman has been horrible. He is too worried about Bale. SHould just play his own game.
Bilya looks like a guy who hasn't played in 2 months,..
We miss Arteta. Pienaar is great coming off the flanks etc but he is no Mikky in the centre of midfield.
Cahill playing well but he is never going to score if he is that deep.

2nd half, no changes immediately but maybe Hibbert on for Bilya with Neville into CM and Pienaar out left.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Danny on October 23, 2010, 07:42:42 PM
Coleman has been much worse than bily if you ask me.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Thom on October 23, 2010, 07:44:24 PM
We're playing ok at the moment. A few intricate moves but, as always, we're lacking a cutting edge in front of goal.

I think we need to push Cahill a bit further up to give Yakubu some support, and putting Pienaar into the centre of midfield will give us a bit more pace in that area as Heitinga has been found wanting on a couple of occasions when people are running at him.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
We're playing ok at the moment. A few intricate moves but, as always, we're lacking a cutting edge in front of goal.

I think we need to push Cahill a bit further up to give Yakubu some support, and putting Pienaar into the centre of midfield will give us a bit more pace in that area as Heitinga has been found wanting on a couple of occasions when people are running at him.

Pienaar is playing CM
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:45:59 PM
Bily has no way been as bad as most of you are making out.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 23, 2010, 07:46:48 PM
Coleman has been much worse than bily if you ask me.

Perhaps because he's spent 45 minutes making sure Neville doesn't get sent off?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 07:46:58 PM
We're still good going forward, but without Mikky we lack an ability to control the flow of the game and keep the ball. Still not too bad, and but for Howard's mistake we'd be up right now, albeit probably undeservedly.

The only change I can see at the moment is Gueye for Bily, either than that I don't see Moyes making any other changes, I'd prefer Hibbert at right back but Bale hasn't been able to get into the game and that is probably due to Phil. Although eventually one of these nudges on Crouch is going to be given as a penalty, I can feel it.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on October 23, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
I agree with Danny on this one.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 07:48:43 PM
Bily has no way been as bad as most of you are making out.

agreed
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Thom on October 23, 2010, 07:49:23 PM
Pienaar is playing CM

He hasn't. Cahill has been playing centre midfield for a good portion of that half, with Pienaar playing off Yakubu.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:50:03 PM
Why do people honestly think Gueye can do a better job than Bily?!

What exactly are they basing this on? 60 minutes against the mighty Huddersfield and a few friendly run outs. The lad isn't ready for the premiership yet, hence why he hasn't even been brought on in games we've been desperate or comfortable in.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:51:10 PM
He hasn't. Cahill has been playing centre midfield for a good portion of that half, with Pienaar playing off Yakubu.

Wrong.

Pienaar has been the deeper of the 2 for the majority of the half.

Are you even watching?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 23, 2010, 07:51:38 PM
Why do people honestly think Gueye can do a better job than Bily?!

What exactly are they basing this on? 60 minutes against the mighty Huddersfield and a few friendly run outs. The lad isn't ready for the premiership yet, hence why he hasn't even been brought on in games we've been desperate or comfortable in.

Because with his pace alone he is contributing more.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 07:52:06 PM
He hasn't. Cahill has been playing centre midfield for a good portion of that half, with Pienaar playing off Yakubu.

I think it has been a 5 man midfield with one pushing up at a time
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:52:38 PM
Other option is put Hibbert on for Bily, Captain Clubfoot in the middle with Heitinga, and move Pienaar to the left
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 07:52:58 PM
Pienaar offers us so much. So gutted he wont be staying.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:53:02 PM
Because with his pace alone he is contributing more.

Complete bullshit.

You'd obviously prefer 10 Andy Johnson headless chickens, hey but atleast he's got pace.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:53:43 PM
Good stream lads?

Mine just died at half time.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 23, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
Complete bullshit.

You'd obviously prefer 10 Andy Johnson headless chickens, hey but atleast he's got pace.

Lesser of 2 evils.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:54:26 PM
Other option is put Hibbert on for Bily, Captain Clubfoot in the middle with Heitinga, and move Pienaar to the left

...yeah cause that's a brilliantly creative centre midfiled right there..
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on October 23, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
Bily has no way been as bad as most of you are making out.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:55:17 PM
Sorry, I didn't realise we all had to agree with whatever you say.

It's about as creative as Bily is
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
English commentary stream please anyone?   :eh:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 07:57:59 PM
To be honest I'd rather you didn't agree with me Charlatan.

Since you know fuck all. It wouldn't really be a good reflection on me if you did.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
Not a booking that. Lennon went down like a sack of tatties.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 07:59:09 PM
To be honest I'd rather you didn't agree with me Charlatan.

Since you know fuck all. It wouldn't really be a good reflection on me if you did.

Ha ha ha ha.  Whatever lad
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
Pienaar offers us so much. So gutted he wont be staying.

Rooney did a U turn, so who knows?

Oh wait... £200k a week.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
English commentary stream please anyone?   :eh:

Sopcast channel alv1172
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
Referee blows for every single thing.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 08:04:12 PM
Sopcast channel alv1172

Thank you
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 08:05:57 PM
Good un that. For American audiences so very funny when they keep explaining elementary things.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
Getting a bit boring now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:09:19 PM
Was Yak limping when he went off then?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
Yea he looked injured on that header to Pienaar. Let's see what Saha can do, probably get the ball, turn and run at them while managing to not pass for the next 25 minutes.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:10:59 PM
Yep, looks like Yak injured now.

Jesus, this can't be bad luck if it's happening all the time.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Let's hope its nothing serious, he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks.

Spurs seem to be tiring after Weds night.  COYB!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 08:15:27 PM
They are flagging.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:16:52 PM
What's the commentator going on about Spurs have the 3rd best defence this season, only letting in 7? I think you'll find Everton have also only let in 7 too. Well 8 now seeing as it's 1-1.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
Think we need some legs too
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fellaini25 on October 23, 2010, 08:19:50 PM
Boring and don't look like we are going to make anything happen. They need to get the ball on the floor and start passing it around again.

 :headbang:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:21:07 PM
ha ha VDV
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
Fucking hell Heitinga!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
Got to stop making mistakes. That was shocking from Heitinga, and poorly defended afterwards. Why not try 2 strikers again?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blob on October 23, 2010, 08:24:50 PM
heitinga too slow. almost had us in the shit again.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 08:25:01 PM
Come on Hibbo!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
Second game in a row Heitinga has asked to been taken off. Nice to see you're fighting for the cause Johnny.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
Think we need a change here. Bily off for Beckford?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:28:25 PM
Clearly playing for the draw now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
This is a very good stream


http://gurutv.yolasite.com/ (http://gurutv.yolasite.com/)
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:30:54 PM
Clearly playing for the draw now.

Really? A striker on for a midfielder and we're playing for the draw?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Pienaar should be moved to the left and Bily to the right, take advantage of Pienaar and Baines, and give Bily a chance to produce a moment of magic.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
I would take a draw to be fair. Big shame about Howards rush of blood. Been solid enough since.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:33:04 PM
Really? A striker on for a midfielder and we're playing for the draw?

I wrote that well before the sub.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Thom on October 23, 2010, 08:33:31 PM
We won't have any midfielders left at this rate.

Gutted Yakubu went off around the hour mark too with that ankle knock. Knew the ball wouldn't stick up front with Saha at all and it's only added to the pressure on our defence at times.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
I wrote that well before the sub.

Sorry, must not have refreshed recent to that post.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:36:20 PM
Assou-Ekotto has been raping us lately. Come on lads they played midweek with 10 men we should be all over them right now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:37:11 PM
Come on blues, last 3 minutes again!
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:37:47 PM
LMAO at Hibbo's shot
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:38:11 PM
Sorry, must not have refreshed recent to that post.
No worries :)
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:38:25 PM
So excited for a second there.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:39:53 PM
That'll do.  Awful 2nd half tho....
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 23, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Hard fought point that, well desrved.Would have take that away at Spurs.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Probably a fair result, unfortunate though because without that gaff we'd have won. Only one real chance in the entire game and that was Crouch's header, and the second half was pretty awful viewing if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 08:41:25 PM
That so feels like 2 points dropped.  ???
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 23, 2010, 08:41:34 PM
Terrible second half to watch, but we shut the game down nicely. Jags was brilliant as usual, and Pienaar couldn't have run harder (could have picked his final ball a little better though).
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
Yea, Jags was great today, probably our MOTM.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:43:30 PM
With a game at home to Stoke next week, then two weeks til we play again, hopefully we'll have some of the injuries back.  Squad is looking painfully thin again at the minute.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 23, 2010, 08:43:43 PM
Hard fought point that, well desrved.Would have take that away at Spurs.

Hard fought point? did you not see the equalizer?

Against a team that had such a draining match on Wednesday I view that as 2 points dropped.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Danny on October 23, 2010, 08:44:33 PM
Good result but can't help but feel we'd have won had Arteta been playing, so many times when Neville slogged it long at the end due to a lack of CM presence.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cambridge.blue on October 23, 2010, 08:45:17 PM
LMAO at Hibbo's shot

that's why he has been given a new deal, sheer quality
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
Hard fought point? did you not see the equalizer?

Against a team that had such a draining match on Wednesday I view that as 2 points dropped.

Says the guy who previously said he was looking past this game to Stoke.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 23, 2010, 08:46:34 PM
Gutted. 2 points dropped.

A Howard fuck up costs us again.

He needs dropping to allow him to buck his ideas up.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: blargins on October 23, 2010, 08:46:49 PM
Poor match, very bitsy, neither team really kept the ball well and there were many misplaced passes.

Shame about Howard's howler as I think we would have won that otherwise.

I really don't see what the fuss is about Spurs though.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 23, 2010, 08:46:58 PM
that's why he has been given a new deal, sheer quality

LOL.  Careful, you'll be called all the twats under the sun for a comment like that.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 08:48:16 PM
Good result but can't help but feel we'd have won had Arteta been playing, so many times when Neville slogged it long at the end due to a lack of CM presence.

I'd agree with that, plus Cahill would've been able to stay higher up the pitch and he's on fire in front of goal at the moment.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: chang on October 23, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
 We look very good at times, but really basic things like throw ins we look as if nobody wants the ball?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: bluedavey on October 23, 2010, 08:55:17 PM
Credit again to Jags and Distin.  Really hope Pienaar keeps this up - not sure how we can let him go for nothing on todays performance
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: kunal32 on October 23, 2010, 08:56:34 PM
A point is a fair result they had a match in midweek but I think the loss of Arteta was a blow for us. Pienaar the only creativity in that midfield. Again the Yak put a shift in but no striker has scored for us in the league this season which really is a worry.
Title: Howard ? Keep in or drop?
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 08:58:49 PM
How do you feel about Howards clanger?

Do you think he needs to be dropped?

He's too old to learn new tricks so to speak, so I don't think dropping him is going to cut out the sloppiness really, but Mucha is a very experienced keeper and highly capable. Do we go with Howard because he's a fans favourite or do we punish him for making too many errors?

Last year, Howard was pretty poor, and we conceded far too many goals. This year, he is costing us points through school boy errors. Yes, he is popular, but Mucha will also be popular given the chance to shine.

Is this too many mistakes for Moyes to ignore? Mucha must be thinking his chance has come now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: gwells on October 23, 2010, 08:59:05 PM
Thought Jags the Yak and Cahill were our best players .Pienaar again falls short with the final ball. Coleman and Bily played very defensively. Should have won but for Howard's awful stuff up
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 23, 2010, 09:01:18 PM
Good write up from the Beeb:
Quote
Tottenham failed to beat a limited Everton despite producing some vibrant attacking play at White Hart Lane.
Yeah, hurrah for good old Spurs with their 'vibrant' play, and boo to 'limited' old us.

"Ohhhh... wheeeeennn.... thhhhhhhe............."
/checks programme for next word
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: bluedavey on October 23, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
It's saying something when Phil Neville  looks better in defensive mid role than Heitinga. Awful at times today
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 09:03:30 PM
Hard fought point? did you not see the equalizer?

Against a team that had such a draining match on Wednesday I view that as 2 points dropped.

A narrow Spurs win but it shouldn't put us down. I'm thinking more about Stoke.

You're just a hypocrite, aren't you?

A draw at Spurs is always a good result but I am disappointed that we threw away such a good opportunity and that horror goal apart I thought the defence and keeper did well.

Heitinga however, had another poor game. The sooner Fellaini is back the better.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 23, 2010, 09:06:22 PM
Heitinga just isn't a midfielder, occasionally plays a nice 60 yard pass and then fouls people or does little else all game. With Felli and Arteta I have no doubt we'd win that game, we'd have much more control. Although I suppose that would also mean Arteta would have taken that free kick that Baines dispatched so magnificently.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on October 23, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Hard fought point? did you not see the equalizer?

Against a team that had such a draining match on Wednesday I view that as 2 points dropped.

I view you as points dropped.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on October 23, 2010, 09:15:50 PM
Well in the last three games we have got better points/results compared to last season in the corresponding fixtures. Four points off fourth. And players to come back. I know the doomongers on here will slag of my positivity but I am a glass half full kind of guy
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 09:17:08 PM
Well in the last three games we have got better points/results compared to last season in the corresponding fixtures. Four points off fourth. And players to come back. I know the doomongers on here will slag of my positivity but I am a glass half full kind of guy

Exactly things are definitely looking up right now.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 23, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
solid defensive display again, bar howards error. great free kick from baines. good shift by yak though judging by the ice pack, he must have taken a knock to the ankle. would have taken a point at the start of play considering our record there, so pretty satisfied.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Fynci on October 23, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Over the 90 minutes, 1-1 was a perfectly fair result. I'd have taken it before kickoff, so alls good.

With regards to Howards mistake, any goalkeeper error gets highlighted a million times more than an outfield player. It's easy to forget how  many times he's kept us in games, and only focus on the negatives. He's a great keeper who made one misjudgement. I don't see that error as him losing us 2 points though, if Spurs didn't score then I think they'd have pulled one back at some point.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 23, 2010, 09:23:46 PM
Over the 90 minutes, 1-1 was a perfectly fair result. I'd have taken it before kickoff, so alls good.

With regards to Howards mistake, any goalkeeper error gets highlighted a million times more than an outfield player. It's easy to forget how  many times he's kept us in games, and only focus on the negatives. He's a great keeper who made one misjudgement. I don't see that error as him losing us 2 points though, if Spurs didn't score then I think they'd have pulled one back at some point.

At what point does Mucha get a go though?
That's not the first massive howler Howard has made this season. It will be on Moyes' mind.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Tinga on October 23, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
solid defensive display again, bar howards error. great free kick from baines. good shift by yak though judging by the ice pack, he must have taken a knock to the ankle. would have taken a point at the start of play considering our record there, so pretty satisfied.

We where very dodgy at times.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on October 23, 2010, 09:34:28 PM
Starting with 1 striker is fucking gutless and getting boooring.

The Yak (God bless him) running about like a chicken needs a give an go partner not wait for a cross from Baines or a hoof from Neville.
We play dreadful football.

As for Mucha getting a match you can do one! Howard has a clanger whooptee doo!? we should have more goals to compensate those unfortunate mistakes.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 23, 2010, 09:35:27 PM
Thats a good point for us. Had very little going forward and they were hardly troubled. jags was great today as was Distin.
Not sure what the Heitinga complaints are about. he cut out so many attacks, won lots of headers. kept vd Vaart quiet all game
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Verm on October 23, 2010, 10:22:19 PM
I view you as points dropped.

Out of all the comments I've had on here directed at me that is by far the worst.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 23, 2010, 10:25:05 PM
pound for pound, It was a great result today, If Howard hadnt gifted the goal away it may have been far worse for us, Tottenham have had an incredible 2 seasons and have punished far better teams than us, Say they went in at second half being a goal down, they have the players to destroy defences and the shaved guinea pig would have had them literally playing us off the park, Luckily enough they went for the long ball to crouch every single time and our defences were fantastic today and stopped the very direct threat. I am very drank right now and am very very pleased with the result, cant really see how anyone can complain...it could have been far worse. I for one will now enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 23, 2010, 10:32:01 PM
Not sure why Im seeing so many people giving credit to Yak. I thought he was bloody awful today.Heitinga, Distin and Billy were too. With that many players out of sorts, and key players like Arteta missing I think it was a good point for us today.  When you see the number of chances Spurs created, with players running thru midfield to attack with the ball, and the movement of it, you see the gulf in class between the two teams in an attacking sense.

Shame about Howards clanger but hey ho, steady point won.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 23, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Not sure why Im seeing so many people giving credit to Yak. I thought he was bloody awful today.Heitinga, Distin and Billy were too. With that many players out of sorts, and key players like Arteta missing I think it was a good point for us today.  When you see the number of chances Spurs created, with players running thru midfield to attack with the ball, and the movement of it, you see the gulf in class between the two teams in an attacking sense.Shame about Howards clanger but hey ho, steady point won.


A gulf in class in the monetory sense too though, We are more Stoke than Spurs in that department these days.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 23, 2010, 10:38:46 PM

A gulf in class in the monetory sense too though, We are more Stoke than Spurs in that department these days.

True, but money doesnt always equal a gulf in quality visible on the pitch - take MC for instance, theyve outbought us for years now and Newcastle have in past years, but there hasnt been a noticeable gulf in quality. Spurs have a very nice attacking team brewing imo. Even though Bale looks like Pug from the Beano.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 23, 2010, 10:43:37 PM
True, but money doesnt always equal a gulf in quality visible on the pitch - take MC for instance, theyve outbought us for years now and Newcastle have in past years, but there hasnt been a noticeable gulf in quality. Spurs have a very nice attacking team brewing imo. Even though Bale looks like Pug from the Beano.
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fair enough but we havnt played citeh yet and Newky beat us, Look Im all for HOPING we do well against the so called money teams but I am also realistic, as I said Pound fer Pound, we looked good today, yeah mistakes were made but to get a point at white heart lane is, On any day a great point.
IMIKT
*in moyes i kinda trust
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2010, 10:43:56 PM
dunno what most of this chat is about. did we all watch the same game?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: RICH on October 23, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
How do you feel about Howards clanger?

Do you think he needs to be dropped?

He's too old to learn new tricks so to speak, so I don't think dropping him is going to cut out the sloppiness really, but Mucha is a very experienced keeper and highly capable. Do we go with Howard because he's a fans favourite or do we punish him for making too many errors?

Last year, Howard was pretty poor, and we conceded far too many goals. This year, he is costing us points through school boy errors. Yes, he is popular, but Mucha will also be popular given the chance to shine.

Is this too many mistakes for Moyes to ignore? Mucha must be thinking his chance has come now.

one mistake in 4 games and you want him dropped why and defo not for mucha he has very poor the times i have seen him play for slovakia
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 23, 2010, 10:57:45 PM
From what I've seen Mucha is a top shot stopper but is very erratic. If we're trying to avoid conceding goals from keepr errors I don't really think he's the way to go.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Alan Harper on October 23, 2010, 11:30:31 PM
I for one will now enjoy the rest of the weekend.

This
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 24, 2010, 12:12:36 AM
We where very dodgy at times.

dodgy? how? apart from distins slip and howards error i can't think of any other occasion where we were dodgy . care to enlighten?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 24, 2010, 02:34:46 AM
If we as evertonians always look to the negatives on our performances I fear for our sanity. Today was a point well deserved, there are now many many better equiped teams in the premier league.
We are no longer a heavy weight in this league and should bask in the glow for any points well earned whether it be one or three. Spurs and other champions league teams should be destroying teams like ours (according to sky et al) but we dug deep with our meagre budgets and bargain basement players (also sky opinion) and grabbed a very nice point. Enjoy it ffs.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: johnj on October 24, 2010, 04:00:07 AM
Howard cost us so should be dropped simples. Second time this season. Mucha may not prove to be bettter but we need to stick to simple form principles.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: johnj on October 24, 2010, 04:11:11 AM
Jags played brilliant today, Pienaar played great as Arteta's replacement and really tried hard to keep us moving. Yak's first touch was really poor, he didn't kick on from the derby. We didn't do enough to win. Heitinge was poor, kept moving too deep but not picking up his man. We missed Fellaini defending in the centre and left big gaps for Spurs. We were lucky they didn't punish us. Neville did a very good job on Bale though. Saha and Beckford not up with the pace of the game when they came on. But lucky enough to make me think we are now on a run.....
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 24, 2010, 04:44:48 AM
I don't think being positive and applauding a 1-1 is offering a true reflection on todays game. Until we scored, we were playing like Barcelona. We scored, and went to sleep. Howard then had a moment, and the game changed.

We are better than Spurs. It is 2 points dropped. The day I'm thankful for a draw at Whitehart lane will be a sad day indeed.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on October 24, 2010, 04:44:51 AM
It amazes me how different people can rate the same performance in different ways. Specifically Hetinga, I only saw numerous misplaced passes and cheap fouls. Others saw a better performance. I often wonder do others watch the player off the ball , the positions they take up and see the runs they don't make etc, rather than the ones they do. Can a player have a seeming poor game to the untrained eye yet really add more to the team performance than others with a more obvious impact?
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: chang on October 24, 2010, 04:49:55 AM
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It amazes me how different people can rate the same performance in different ways


Just like the dancing on BBC, how can 3 of them score "7" and that miserable cunt on the end only give a "4"

 :bonk:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 24, 2010, 04:59:39 AM


Just like the dancing on BBC, how can 3 of them score "7" and that miserable cunt on the end only give a "4"

 :bonk:

Tell me you don't watch it just to perv at the dancers.  ;D I do.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 24, 2010, 05:36:08 AM
It amazes me how different people can rate the same performance in different ways.

You are very easily amazed.
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 24, 2010, 03:53:00 PM
I don't think being positive and applauding a 1-1 is offering a true reflection on todays game. Until we scored, we were playing like Barcelona. We scored, and went to sleep. Howard then had a moment, and the game changed.

We are better than Spurs. It is 2 points dropped. The day I'm thankful for a draw at Whitehart lane will be a sad day indeed.

no were not mate, not at the moment....Hence they are playing in the champions league and were not even in the europa,
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Father Mcnulty on October 24, 2010, 05:48:24 PM
no were not mate, not at the moment....Hence they are playing in the champions league and were not even in the europa,

Oh yes we are.  ;D
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Bluenosebolt on October 24, 2010, 05:53:45 PM
hehe, ok  :cheers:
Title: Re: Tottenham versus Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on October 24, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Out of all the comments I've had on here directed at me that is by far the worst.

That's quite impressive on my part.