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November 23, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
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He works hard. When working hard and running channels sometime during a match ypu will get chances to score as a striker. Niasse is doing this very well at the moment. As long as he scores goals keep him up front.


November 23, 2017, 02:20:35 PM
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My question is the official calls a dive and gives them a yellow, is it also an automatic 2 game ban?
This is sometning I also are woundering about... Is the same rule on referees if they make a bad desicion that will affect the other team and result in the match? Can they be suspended just like a player... I would really hope so.

November 23, 2017, 03:26:51 PM
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We know that top 4 or 5 teams won't have this issue.

When this is reviewed at the end of the season, it really wouldn't surprise me if most of the players that get away with it are from the top 4 or 5.
I also think most of the people charged/suspended  will be black.

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November 23, 2017, 03:27:32 PM
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I think that the club have been a little weak in just accepting the punishment if I'm honest. I think that they should have made a real fuss about it and carried on fighting. There was contact and Niasse went down. Whilst he may have gone down easily, Dann's intention was to impede the player, which is a foul.
I Don't understand the idea that if It's anywhere else on the pitch, It's a foul but if It's in the box, It's soft. A foul is a foul. Niasse wasn't screaming for the penalty to be awarded.
I think at the very least, the club should have questioned the ruling, based upon numerous incidents already this season that have gone unpunished, and put real pressure on the FA to explain why. It may not change the decision, but it at least plants the seed that the FA are corrupt as fuck and bend over backwards to ensure that the top 6 get away with fucking murder.

November 23, 2017, 04:28:29 PM
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I still think it was a clear dive and don't have a massive issue with the punishment. Diving needs addressing.

Ok, so maybe it needs to be implemented more effectively but it's a new law in an attempt to eradicate a problem many people hate. New laws often have teething problems and need tweaking and adjusting. It's unfortunate we're the first to suffer but I don't see any conspiracy or bias against us. They just need to think about that the yellow card/2 game ban discrepancy.

Apparently the panel are an ex-player (Murphy as we know), an ex-ref and an administrator. They all view it seperately, they don't get together as a group and they have to be unanimous. In this case, they were unanimous and I agree with them.
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November 23, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
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My question is the official calls a dive and gives them a yellow, is it also an automatic 2 game ban?

Seems like Niasse is being punished for the ref's incompetence, doesn't it? If he had called it, Palace wouldn't have conceded a pen and would have won the game so they are right to feel aggrieved, but that's hardly Niasse's fault.


November 23, 2017, 04:34:31 PM
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I think that the club have been a little weak in just accepting the punishment if I'm honest. I think that they should have made a real fuss about it and carried on fighting. There was contact and Niasse went down. Whilst he may have gone down easily, Dann's intention was to impede the player, which is a foul.
I Don't understand the idea that if It's anywhere else on the pitch, It's a foul but if It's in the box, It's soft. A foul is a foul. Niasse wasn't screaming for the penalty to be awarded.
I think at the very least, the club should have questioned the ruling, based upon numerous incidents already this season that have gone unpunished, and put real pressure on the FA to explain why. It may not change the decision, but it at least plants the seed that the FA are corrupt as fuck and bend over backwards to ensure that the top 6 get away with fucking murder.

We did appeal, and we lost the appeal, shouting and throwing your toys out of the pram wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever, we don't know but possibly they had the power to increase the ban.
It's happened, he gets to play tonight as he won't be playing for another couple of weeks and hopefully plays  a confidence boosting blinder !
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November 23, 2017, 04:41:51 PM
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If the ref had have done the time honoured tradition and “evened it up” with another dubious decision would we be getting two players suspended from both teams and the ref going unpunished?

There was no doubt in Taylor’s mind straight away it was a penalty, there’s no appeal from Niasse (it was awarded so quickly such was Taylor’s certainty he never had chance) and there’s clearly contact from Dann with the deliberate shoulder charge into Niasses chest, plus for all we know the linesman may have been in full agreement with him and said “penalty” through the headpieces. Yet all the officials go unpunished for this as if they’ve done nothing wrong by being so easily and blatantly “deceived”.

It’s all so badly wrong. Besides the punishment not fitting the crime there’s the trial by media for a few days and the questionable impartiality that brings with it, the farcical review procedure, the officials getting away with it Scot free and Palace not benefiting in away from the whole process.

The whole things ridiculous really and it’s not just because we’re involved I’d think the same way whether it was any other of the 18 teams in the league.
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November 23, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
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I still think it was a clear dive and don't have a massive issue with the punishment. Diving needs addressing.

Ok, so maybe it needs to be implemented more effectively but it's a new law in an attempt to eradicate a problem many people hate. New laws often have teething problems and need tweaking and adjusting. It's unfortunate we're the first to suffer but I don't see any conspiracy or bias against us. They just need to think about that the yellow card/2 game ban discrepancy.

Apparently the panel are an ex-player (Murphy as we know), an ex-ref and an administrator. They all view it seperately, they don't get together as a group and they have to be unanimous. In this case, they were unanimous and I agree with them.

You won't be agreeing when united Chelsea and Spurs players get away with it.And that will happen.

November 23, 2017, 04:49:22 PM
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You won't be agreeing when united Chelsea and Spurs players get away with it.And that will happen.

No I'll still agree. As I've acknowledged, how it is implemented will be the test, but I'm glad something more concrete is starting to be done about diving. Might take a while to get it right.
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November 23, 2017, 05:00:16 PM
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We did appeal, and we lost the appeal, shouting and throwing your toys out of the pram wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever, we don't know but possibly they had the power to increase the ban.
It's happened, he gets to play tonight as he won't be playing for another couple of weeks and hopefully plays  a confidence boosting blinder !



I didn't mean to like that but have a free like anyway. I thought Niasse wasn't entered in the Europa League squad
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November 23, 2017, 05:12:49 PM
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Ok, so maybe it needs to be implemented more effectively but it's a new law in an attempt to eradicate a problem many people hate. New laws often have teething problems and need tweaking and adjusting. It's unfortunate we're the first to suffer but I don't see any conspiracy or bias against us. They just need to think about that the yellow card/2 game ban discrepancy.

I don't think it's a conspiracy against us specifically, it's just that if you're playing for one of the "big" or more fashionable teams, you're less likely to be charged. I've got no issue with the ban discrepancy however, it's the same as in criminal courts, pleading guilty results in a reduced sentence.

What I do have an issue with is that even if the panel view it separately, they do so after hearing all the pundits' verdict. And when one member of the panel actually works for one of those programmes, and has a well-documented bias for a rival team, it becomes even more dodgy.
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November 23, 2017, 05:14:31 PM
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Escla

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I didn't mean to like that but have a free like anyway. I thought Niasse wasn't entered in the Europa League squad

You are right, so, let's see Sandro play 90 minutes ! (Apart from the Niasse error the rest of the message was worthy of your like do thanks  :smug:)

November 23, 2017, 05:35:45 PM
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Just got a Niasse shirt in the Black Friday sale. I'm a sucker for a cult hero
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November 23, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
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We did appeal, and we lost the appeal, shouting and throwing your toys out of the pram wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever we don't know but possibly they had the power to increase the ban.

Except when it does...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/6190234/Arsenals-Eduardo-has-two-game-diving-ban-overturned.html

In case you don’t remember how blatant that dive was:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xac6s6
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