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Matchday Archives => Matchday Threads 2018-19 => Topic started by: Lincs Toffee on July 11, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
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Anyone going to this from here, I'm looking at heading across from Lincolnshire if things go to plan, at £15 its gotta worth seeing our boys under the new manager for the first time.
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Anyone going to this from here, I'm looking at heading across from Lincolnshire if things go to plan, at £15 its gotta worth seeing our boys under the new manager for the first time.
...................got my ticket yesterday ,what a faff with the new look website ,it said I couldn't have my usual spot because it left an orphan seat . Went to auto select and it gave me a seat right at the back . Logged off and tried again - success. Looking forward to getting back to Goodison.
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...................got my ticket yesterday ,what a faff with the new look website ,it said I couldn't have my usual spot because it left an orphan seat . Went to auto select and it gave me a seat right at the back . Logged off and tried again - success. Looking forward to getting back to Goodison.
I'd take the Orphan seat :)
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Am I right in thinking you just get your tickets and sit anywhere when you get there?
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Am I right in thinking you just get your tickets and sit anywhere when you get there?
Think that's changed now from years ago, youll get an allocated seat I think
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Think I’m going, looking forward to seeing what marco’s got for us
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Damn I can't go to this, I'll be to busy getting ratarsed in Majorca
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Damn I can't go to this, I'll be to busy getting ratarsed in Majorca
Had a few wild nights there back in the days of long hair and shell suits
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Where would be the best place to park, all previous occasions I've come in by train?
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Where would be the best place to park, all previous occasions I've come in by train?
..................Not sure if all the matchday carparks will open for this . Usually park in the old school off Westminster Road which is between Kirkdale Station and Goodison. Depends which way you come in but you should find parking around Stanley Park .
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Thanks mate, I'll be coming in from M62 then Queens Drive by the looks of it
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Just so you know if any of you coming to this park on the wasteland opposite the Carisbrooke pub by the bingo, you need to find an alternative place to park they have blocked all that area and doing work on that site.
Also the cross junction by the Royal Oak has got a major gas main issue and the roads are blocked right the way down Walton road as far as Thomas frost wetherspoons, Westminster Rd is inaccessible
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-------------Pickford
Coleman Holgate Keane/jagielka Baines
--Gana/Davies Schneiderlin Sigurdsson
---Walcott Tosun Lookman
presuming he'll start the XI he's going to start against wolves? Dunno if we'll have signed anyone by then or what like
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-------------Pickford
Coleman Holgate Keane/jagielka Baines
--Gana/Davies Schneiderlin Sigurdsson
---Walcott Tosun Lookman
presuming he'll start the XI he's going to start against wolves? Dunno if we'll have signed anyone by then or what like
Can you imagine the fume if we haven't signed anyone, deadline day would be a week away
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Can you imagine the fume if we haven't signed anyone, deadline day would be a week away
Weird thing is, even if we didn't sign anyone, I still think with no European distraction we'd still finish 7th comfortably.
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Damn I can't go to this, I'll be to busy getting ratarsed in Majorca
Wanna swap
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Wanna swap
Tough one this, sun, sea, alcohol, more sun, loads more ale, topless women, sun, ale, topless women, more ale, sun, women or Valencia at Goodison
I'm a terrible Evertonian
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any corporate for this?
want to take the baby but the pram will get stuck on the stairs on the Street End
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any corporate for this?
want to take the baby but the pram will get stuck on the stairs on the Street End
Doesn't look like it, Main Stand and Park End corporate are blanked out and showing not available if you hover over it.
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Doesn't look like it, Main Stand and Park End corporate are blanked out and showing not available if you hover over it.
never know how to book it online, but saying that the last time I booked was for Tamworth in the FA Cup!
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never know how to book it online, but saying that the last time I booked was for Tamworth in the FA Cup!
.....................there Is a link on the OS to book hospitality but nothing shown for the Valencia game.
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Pickford
Coleman Mina Holgate Digne
Doucoure Gana Sigurdsson
Lozano Walcott Lookman
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Pickford
Coleman Mina Holgate Digne
Doucoure Gana Sigurdsson
Lozano Walcott Lookman
If only..... but get ready for...
Pickford
Coleman Jags Keane Baines
Schneids Gana Siggy
Walcott Tosun Lookman
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If only..... but get ready for...
Pickford
Coleman Jags Keane Baines
Schneids Gana Siggy
Walcott Tosun Lookman
....................would hope to see lads like Kenny ,Beni ,Dowell & Robinson get on at some point.
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any corporate for this?
want to take the baby but the pram will get stuck on the stairs on the Street End
Might be worth speaking to the box office and seeing if you can get tickets for the street end in the church corner and request access through the disabled gate. There's no steps that way, so you will be able to get a pram in quite easily.
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If only..... but get ready for...
Pickford
Coleman Jags Keane Baines
Schneids Gana Siggy
Walcott Tosun Lookman
Not a bad side if played the right way.
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Got tickets for front row upper Bullens for this, looking forward to it and Bem Brazil afterwards. :laugh:
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any corporate for this?
want to take the baby but the pram will get stuck on the stairs on the Street End
I'll ask on Tuesday
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Bringing my boy up from Cornwall for his first game and can't wait. Do players still arrive between 12 and 1pm? Can you get close for an autograph?
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Bringing my boy up from Cornwall for his first game and can't wait. Do players still arrive between 12 and 1pm? Can you get close for an autograph?
yeah they put barriers up in the car park, just hang around there.
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yeah they put barriers up in the car park, just hang around there.
Great thanks. Are they pretty good at coming over for autographs?
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Great thanks. Are they pretty good at coming over for autographs?
Seems it yeah, they have to walk past the barriers so will stop for photos and stuff.
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Bringing my boy up from Cornwall for his first game and can't wait. Do players still arrive between 12 and 1pm? Can you get close for an autograph?
I will ask what's going on for this on Tuesday
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Any idea on costings for this?
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Any idea on costings for this?
£15 for adults
£5 for kids
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
Aachen motel, Mount Pleasant, it’s round the corner from lime st station
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
.........try Breeze guest house ,Hawthorn Road ,walking distance of Goodison .Highly recommended. Owner is a blue.
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
There's apartments on scotty road called picturehouse that are supposed to be nice. Get any bus from there up to goodison.
Other than that maybe a Travelodge in Fazakerley or Aintree. Easy enough to get from there.
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
.................wherever you stay it's top prices on Fri/Sat in Liverpool and has been for years . I would avoid places that cater for stag/hens if you want any peace. :Sick: lolol
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Stayed in the Hallmark hotel on Mount pleasant, around 5 or 6 weeks ago. Two nights. Large double bed & breakfast. £152 all in. Nice and clean and no hassles. :)
Oh! And by the way. Access to travel from there, is as good as it gets. Central, and Lime Street Station (if it's open) are literally 4 or 5 minutes walk.
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Ok so it looks like I'm going to be spending the saturday night in Liverpool with my bird, so any ideas of where I can stop the night and park within easy reach of the ground either by Public transport or Uber?
Formula 1. The bird will love it
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Formula 1. The bird will love it
Took many a bird there over the years, it was a classy joint.
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The wife needs to know if she can drink wine during the game (not just half time) or she won't go
Any ideas??
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The wife needs to know if she can drink wine during the game (not just half time) or she won't go
Any ideas??
Most people will be whining so don’t worry.
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The wife needs to know if she can drink wine during the game (not just half time) or she won't go
Any ideas??
I think everyone will be on the drink after the Blackburn showing
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No seriously can she get a drink during the match? Took her European game and they didn't allow any in the ground
Fuck me did she kick off at that!
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No seriously can she get a drink during the match? Took her European game and they didn't allow any in the ground
Fuck me did she kick off at that!
Can't drink alcohol on the stands, think they might have the concessions open for alcohol but not sure as it's been a couple of years since I've been to a home friendly
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It's not going to be a very big crowd so be easy enough to get served in the Winslow. Be sure to ask for the wine list when you go in. :bonk:
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No seriously can she get a drink during the match? Took her European game and they didn't allow any in the ground
Fuck me did she kick off at that!
they've actually changed the rules on drinking in the ground for European games now, as of this season pfft.
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Sounds like she might be able to get a drink at half time but apparently that's not good enough so I'll be going on my own lol
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I've watched all of the preseason games aside from the 22-0... is it too early to give up? I'm not going to bother with this one.
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Sounds like she might be able to get a drink at half time but apparently that's not good enough so I'll be going on my own lol
You can get a drink before the game and then they start serving again 15 mins before half time and stop serving as soon as the second half kicks off. That's generally the rules in the ground for a normal game anyway.
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Drink lots before the game if you want to get wankered
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Drink lots before the game if you want to get wankered
Drink lots before the game to numb the experience more like!
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Team for Valencia and Wolves Game:
Pickford
Coleman Keane Holgate Baines
Gueye
Sigurdsson Besic
Lookman Richarlinson
Tosun
Bench : Stek, Jagielka, Davies, Sandro, Vlasic, Niasse, DCL
Bolasie and Walcott injured/unfit?
Get rid of Mirallas, Schneiderlin & Williams
Hopefully Digne comes in and a pacey ball playing CB at the very least.
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I've watched all of the preseason games aside from the 22-0... is it too early to give up? I'm not going to bother with this one.
24 goals in 6 pre season games isn't too bad though.
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24 goals in 6 pre season games isn't too bad though.
It’s the seven goals conceded in the last two which is bad though
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Pickford
Coleman Keane Jagielka Digne
Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson
Sandro Tosun Richarlison
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Pickford
Coleman Keane Jagielka Digne
Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson
Sandro Tosun Richarlison
Fuck me, let's hope that's not what we go with.... distinct lack of pace at CB and the much heralded Gana/Schneids combo in front to 'protect' them.... :Sick:
I'd try a different CM combo for sure....
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Dont worry, we will have signed the new Varane, Thiago Silva and Casemiro in a few days, from Brentford, Portos C team, and an undisclosed South American team where we will have no problem getting a work permit through. Watch this space...
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Pickford won't feature against Valencia, he isn't back in training until next week
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We're going to get pumped 5-0 at Goodison aren't we? I can just see it now. Williams with his head in his shirt, Jagielka with his hands on his knees and Marco Silva running down the tunnel and straight out onto Goodison Road when the 5th goes in.
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We're going to get pumped 5-0 at Goodison aren't we? I can just see it now. Williams with his head in his shirt, Jagielka with his hands on his knees and Marco Silva running down the tunnel and straight out onto Goodison Road when the 5th goes in.
No. He'll be training them hard all week, and some of the players who've hardly worked with him (Gana, Gylfi) will improve markedly, and we'll put in a good display here.
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No. He'll be training them hard all week, and some of the players who've hardly worked with him (Gana, Gylfi) will improve markedly, and we'll put in a good display here.
Hope so. Need some confidence going into the first game of the season. Just got no faith whatsoever in the defence.
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I'm not going to this, doing something far more enjoyable.
Terrible Evertonian me
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Pickford won't feature against Valencia, he isn't back in training until next week
We couldn't be less prepared for that Wolves game if we tried.
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We couldn't be less prepared for that Wolves game if we tried.
Same with other clubs that had players involved in the WC semis/final. No worse for us, and we only had one player. Got to give people a break, they're not machines. GK should be the least affected position from coming back later than other players.
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I'd like to see Silva try some lineups where Gana is the lone DM and Davies-Dowell or Davies-Sigurdsson play in front of him.
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I'd like to see Silva try some lineups where Gana is the lone DM and Davies-Dowell or Davies-Sigurdsson play in front of him.
Gana behind Davies-Siggy is by far my preferred alignment (based on what we have and can realistically expect to have this season).
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Gana behind Davies-Siggy is by far my preferred alignment (based on what we have and can realistically expect to have this season).
Okay, but Sigurdsson has to show for the ball more and he has to try to do something positive with it more too.
If he's our playmaker, he can't be so passive/safe in open play.
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I'd like to see Silva try some lineups where Gana is the lone DM and Davies-Dowell or Davies-Sigurdsson play in front of him.
Yes. Just a win it and give it remit for Gana. Dowell and Sig would be my choice. Leggy technicians spraying it then running onto the end of it.
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Yes if Schneiderlin is going to remain anonymous for long spells then I’d give up on the deeper midfielder starting attacks and just let Gueye shuffle around that area.
Might also be more useful for covering in behind the full backs.
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Unless we get somebody in this week I’d like to see how Sigs play as one of the deeper two. He’s flexible enough to be good anywhere in the midfield and I’d sooner see Dowell that Schneiderlin/Davies/Besic based on recent form.
Is a midfield of Sig/Gueye/Dowell workable?
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Okay, but Sigurdsson has to show for the ball more and he has to try to do something positive with it more too.
If he's our playmaker, he can't be so passive/safe in open play.
I fully agree with that. Think it will take a bit of time for the partnership to find comfort, but Siggy always shows for the ball internationally. Silva just has to convince him the opportunity is there, and to seize it.
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I fully agree with that. Think it will take a bit of time for the partnership to find comfort, but Siggy always shows for the ball internationally. Silva just has to convince him the opportunity is there, and to seize it.
I worry about extrapolating from his Iceland performances because they seem to mostly play without the ball.
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Need to just get him on the ball as much as possible. Minimum touches, minimum passes, minimum runs into the 6 yard box.
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As daft as it sounds for a preseason game we need a result now. Cant go into the season having lost 5 on the trot only scoring 1 goal. We win this and all the other games are forgotten and we can start the season with some confidence. Another hiding and youve got to start fearing for us
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As daft as it sounds for a preseason game we need a result now. Cant go into the season having lost 5 on the trot only scoring 1 goal. We win this and all the other games are forgotten and we can start the season with some confidence. Another hiding and youve got to start fearing for us
.................Valencia play Leicester tomorrow so they might mix up the team a bit ?
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We couldn't be less prepared for that Wolves game if we tried.
He has decided to cut his holiday short and return training on Friday now so might feature against Valencia
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Think whatever team starts Saturday is likely our starting teamv Wolves. Even if we bring in a CB next week since it may take a bit to get them integrated.
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Think whatever team starts Saturday is likely our starting teamv Wolves. Even if we bring in a CB next week since it may take a bit to get them integrated.
What do we think then?
Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Jagielka
Digne (could still be baines at this stage)
Schneiderlin/Davies
Gana
Sigurdsson
Walcott??
Tosun
Richarlison
anyone heard anything on Walcott? would like to see lookman, but looks like it's inevitable hes off.
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Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Jagielka
Baines
Sigurdsson
Schneiderlin
Gana
Sandro
Tosun
Richarlison
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As daft as it sounds for a preseason game we need a result now. Cant go into the season having lost 5 on the trot only scoring 1 goal. We win this and all the other games are forgotten and we can start the season with some confidence. Another hiding and youve got to start fearing for us
least our goal difference is still pretty healthy, even if we get another hiding.
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Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Jagielka
Baines
Sigurdsson
Schneiderlin
Gana
Sandro
Tosun
Richarlison
Yeah, the side that got bullied by Rennes is, unfortunately, likely to be our starting 11 vs Wolves.
The Keane/Jagielka partnership terrifies me with the high-line tactic, and the Schneiderlin/Gana duo fills me with little confidence, either for starting attacks or protecting the back four.
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https://twitter.com/LCFC/status/1024755700419977231
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So does anyone know what Walcott’s, Holgate’s, Calvert-Lewin’s or Lookman’s (skiverlitis) injuries are, and when they are likely to be back?
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Pickford
Coleman
Keane
Jagielka
Baines
Sigurdsson
Schneiderlin
Gana
Sandro
Tosun
Richarlison
I could see this. With our subs to come on most likely to be Niasse, Walcott, Davies, and/or Mirallas if we need goals.
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Would love to see:
Pickford
Coleman Holgate Jagielka Digne
Gana
Dowell Sigurdsson
Sandro* Tosun Richarlison
*Lookman/Walcott if fit.
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http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/08/04/valencia-live-stream-available-to-international-members
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http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/08/04/valencia-live-stream-available-to-international-members
Is this something to do with the law on 3pm KO's being shown live?
Still a bit shite given it's only a friendly.
And if you're abroad and not planning on going to any games this season don't fall for the £30 and getting a members pack, it's worth about 73p and you won't really get any other benefits for your £30.
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Is this something to do with the law on 3pm KO's being shown live?
Still a bit shite given it's only a friendly.
And if you're abroad and not planning on going to any games this season don't fall for the £30 and getting a members pack, it's worth about 73p and you won't really get any other benefits for your £30.
Yeah its that stupid black out for 3pm kick offs :(
Hopefully there will be a stream somewhere.
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Still be a stream surely.
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http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/08/04/valencia-live-stream-available-to-international-members
Right. Everybody's welcome to my house to watch this.
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Right. Everybody's welcome to my house to watch this.
on ESPN3 again here
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on ESPN3 again here
Decisions. Decisions.
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My kids are dragging me to this, I wasn't gonna brother but they've twisted my arm
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https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1025701080167055360
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https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1025701080167055360
Hmmm, sounds way less definitive now, doesn't it. Yikes.
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https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1025701080167055360
The use of the word ‘hope’ doesn’t sound too hopeful to me ;)
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Maybe he's used the word hope, as they're running out of their preferred options? :)
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Yeah its that stupid black out for 3pm kick offs :(
Hopefully there will be a stream somewhere.
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It will be on TVTap but the link is not up yet ,will post when I get it
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I can see Niasse getting a game at centre half if this keeps up
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It's on here. First place I looked. :)
http://premierleague-lives.com/live/everton-live-stream-17/channel-1/
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It will be on TVTap but the link is not up yet ,will post when I get it
Can that be viewed on mobile, mate?
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https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1025728677475172352
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Morgan and Gueye. Kill me hahahahahha
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Can that be viewed on mobile, mate?
Yes if it is android
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Walcott starts, lookman on the bench
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Yes if it is android
Bugger.
Cheers anyway, mate 👍🏼
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Apart from Stek, Gana & Schneiderlin I like the look of this side.
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Walcott starts, lookman on the bench
Ooh, really?
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And I thought Pennington had been loaned out?
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It is on Fox sports 5 and sport tv 2 (portuguese )
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Bugger.
Cheers anyway, mate 👍🏼
Just checked this out and you can have it on ios as well
http://tvtapapp.com/tvtap-for-ios-iphone-download/
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Maybe he's used the word hope, as they're running out of their preferred options? :)
Frankly, I'd rather they pull the "go with what we've got" than waste moneys on the likes of Rojo. Hopefully (that word again) it doesn't come down to such options. It might.
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2 DMs and no Holgate anywhere. Ugh.
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Frankly, I'd rather they pull the "go with what we've got" than waste moneys on the likes of Rojo. Hopefully (that word again) it doesn't come down to such options. It might.
Thing is, with only Keane and Jags as out only fit "decent" center backs, we really don't have a choice.
For the 4 mill we got for Mori, I'm thinking we'd have been better off keeping him. Or at least waiting until a replacement.
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Seems about what one would reasonably expect, with the squad right now, to be the starting XI for Wolves (except bringing in Pickford, if he's up to speed). Maybe you swap, say, Davies, for one of the deeper mids, but that's probably about what we'll see.
Good to see Walcott, Lookman, and DCL back in the squad; have to think Holgate is still injured.
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Fuckin Morgan/Keane what the fuck
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Grim bench. Niasse is a proven game-changer but after that we’re looking at DCL, Davies, Lookman and Sandro. We’ve got a decent 11 but we’re behind West Ham and Leicester when it comes to depth.
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https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1025728677475172352
Looking at that bench hurts my head. So many people.
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It’s not two DMs.
It’s a 433 with gana and Sigurdsson playing further forward.
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Thing is, with only Keane and Jags as out only fit "decent" center backs, we really don't have a choice.
For the 4 mill we got for Mori, I'm thinking we'd have been better off keeping him. Or at least waiting until a replacement.
With you 100% on the Funes Mori thing. That is looking worse and worse each passing day. We will be playing Mo or Morgan back there (at least in the Caribou Cup), mark my words.
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Perfectly happy with that team.
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I want to see improvement defensively in this game. Really not concerned about our attack as I do think it will click eventually with the quality we have. Schneid should be the main DM, sitting back and not allowing our defence to be run at
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Yarp.
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Lookman, DCL on the bench, Theo on the pitch, Virginia on the bench (!)
Interesting stuff.
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http://live-premierleague.com/live/everton-live-stream-1/channel-1/
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Valencia’s team is a bit tasty.
Parejo is a lovely baller.
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Just checked this out and you can have it on ios as well
http://tvtapapp.com/tvtap-for-ios-iphone-download/
What do I have to do to get it? (I’m a techidiot)
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It’s not two DMs.
It’s a 433 with gana and Sigurdsson playing further forward.
And while I’m not a fan of those two together if you play 3 up front and get your full backs forward they “should” provide cover.
Also the forward play would be fairly robotic but if patterns are worked on (getting it forward quickly) then we should still pose a threat.
Not much control mind so those two must play well defensively.
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Re Mori, I think there’s a good chance that he wanted to go.
Didn’t mean that he hated it here but I think there had always been rumours of him wanting to be in an environment that was better for him.
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Everton v Valencia steam from 3pm today. Password is: d0ntcryab0uttran5f3r5wh3ny0ur 3l33ch1ngfr0mth3clu8y0u5cruff
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Prediction: That midfield won't be able to do anything with the ball and we'll get counterattacked to death.
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https://twitter.com/nsno/status/1025739962161852416?s=19
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Freeflix and taptv on sportsTV 2. Android
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http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-valencia-live-streaming
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Everton v Valencia steam from 3pm today. Password is: d0ntcryab0uttran5f3r5wh3ny0ur 3l33ch1ngfr0mth3clu8y0u5cruff
Is there an i-phone link for that, Ram?
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none virus/malicious link
https://www.vipbox.live/everton-fc-vs-valencia-1-live
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Prediction: That midfield won't be able to do anything with the ball and we'll get counterattacked to death.
I think we might be out to avoid a first half hiding, which is kind of sad, but also understandable.
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ESPN3 just now went live, so hopefully more start popping up for y'all
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Welcome to Goodison Marco !
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ESPN3 just now went live, so hopefully more start popping up for y'all
No commentary. It's weird.
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No commentary. It's weird.
kind of lovely, though
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kind of lovely, though
some russian commentary :p
acestream://94d55f4d307fe13ae264e3d3d5a84271375fa3b1
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Richarlison with mad sliding tackles all over the place
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can confirm Stek has quite the booming Dutch voice when claiming the ball
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ESPN stream still not started :(
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Playing some of the nicest football I've seen us play in eons.
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0-1 FFS
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Oh dear.
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Awsum defence
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That was really poor
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shambolic goal? CHECK
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we are so bad arent we haha
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Playing some of the nicest football I've seen us play in eons.
Idiot.
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Silver lining, when I saw no Holgate or Pickford, I bet Valencia to win the first half (good odds, +214)
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What is Baines doing at the back post there?
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Haha.
TWO Center Halves please guys.
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Baines getting left for dead so far
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Stekelenburg 😬
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Nice move that though
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Good effort Rich
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Lovely effort from Richarlison.
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Stream anyone that actually doesn’t about ten million too no where lol
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Gueye is being a lot more adventurous in possession
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The valencia commentator is sat behind us. His reaction to the goal was pure Spanish commentator. He went purple.
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Nice stream http://www.realstream.pw/en/player/5b655867b0628454094420/33/40/5b65b4dee3f12/EvertonFC-ValenciaCF/960/540
in Russian
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A lot better going forward with Walcott Richarlison
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who is yelling at Theo? Marco? Seamus?
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At some point, with the shambolic defending at the back, I wonder how much Pickford coming in to organize might improve it. While we weren't great last season, we weren't nearly this poor.
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who is yelling at Theo? Marco? Seamus?
@Bally (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) is.
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Great goal cenk
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That's a well worked hard fought goal. Tosun is a finisher love the lad
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what a great goal!
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Walcott is a key to our attack. Looking much better with him in the side. Great finish by Cenk too!
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Superb Walcott
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Oh lovely Tosun!
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quite excellent tenacity there
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Great play that.
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Yes Tosun, nice strike from there.
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playing some team footy today, good to see
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That was absolutely fucking brilliant from Theo.
Cenk is a finisher! Just getting warmed up!
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I was about to say our pressing is much better. We seem a much better unit so far (apart from their goal.)
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We're all Walcott and Richarlison.
Which is not a bad thing but it's not great either.
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First pre season I've watched, you're all very welcome.
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Anyone got a stream?
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Anyone got a stream?
Yes thanks.
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Tosun Richarlison Walcott look great
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What a passer Richarlison is. Every time he has the ball, he passes well and to a blue player too.
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Yes thanks.
Youre gonna have to do commentary then
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Anyone with Ace player, this stream is great, Spanish commentary
1435cf18bbc03d0addf27872257da 4a384cc5d97
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Baines so slow.. :-\
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Youre gonna have to do commentary then
No commentary on my stream though.
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https://www.vipleague.lc/1-everton-fc-vs-valencia-live-streaming comms free :)
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Baines is off the pace, hopefully we’ll see Digne at half time.
Sigurdsson has yet to click with this front three
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fucking tragic defence
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Tosun contributes more to our build up play than Sigurdsson.
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defending is fucking woeful
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but shambolic defense redux (how could Holgate NOT be an improvement?)
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Anyone got a stream?
This is fine so long as you have no ad blocker and don't mind just watching
http://www.realstream.pw/en/player/5b655867b0628454094420/33/40/5b65b6b71d6c5/EvertonFC-ValenciaCF/960/540
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And the defence just stands there.
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Lucas Digne must be enjoying this performance from Baines.
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fucking hell.
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Rojo anyone?
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Shocking defending again, boy we need a CB or two.
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Sorry Bainesy, you're finished.
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Jags and Schneiderlin just watching the ball float over them there, no effort atall
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It's going to be a long season with this defense.
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Like statues.
Like actual legit statues.
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Need to Silva on his phone to Brands.
And we need to see Dinge on the phone to Mina saying if you want to play football, you'll walk into this team.
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And the defence just stands there.
Like in quicksand
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I don’t get it, if Gueye is the one dropping deep to take the ball off the defence, what the fuck is Schneiderlin there for?
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Need to Silva on his phone to Brands.
And we need to see Dinge on the phone to Mina saying if you want to play football, you'll walk into this team.
Assuming Holgate can so much as walk, it would be Mina/Holgate from Wolves on. They can learn by doing.
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We need pace in one of our centre backs.
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I don’t get it, if Gueye is the one dropping deep to take the ball off the defence, what the fuck is Schneiderlin there for?
2 DMs in front of Siggy just doesn't work, especially those particular two
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Seamus frustrated
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I don’t get it, if Gueye is the one dropping deep to take the ball off the defence, what the fuck is Schneiderlin there for?
He's trying not to but when thr defence is so slow he has to. He's clearly trying to go forward
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At least this underlines what they should already know... the defence is priority now.
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We need a midfield.
Apart from Gana’s excellent pressing, Schneiderlin’s sucide balls and poorly-timed lunges, and Sigurdsson’s erm, I’m not sure what they’re there for.
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Nice simple goal
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He's trying not to but when thr defence is so slow he has to. He's clearly trying to go forward
I’m not using it as a criticism of Gueye, he’s been everywhere.
More than he’s doing his own job and Schneiderlin’s
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Fuck Keane off up front..
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Good corner headed home!
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I think the midifeld has done quite well the defenders need to defend occasionally
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Imagine if we could defend as well.
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maybe give Keane a little confidence
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We need pace in one of our centre backs.
This is the big item. I don't think Mina is the answer to that particular problem, as my understanding is that he's not blessed with pace. Holgate coming back in will help there.
I'd almost prefer Lascelles over Mina right now for pace. We need another CB that can make up ground and isn't uncomfortable on the ball.
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2-2 at least Keane can do something.
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We need a midfield.
Apart from Gana’s excellent pressing, Schneiderlin’s sucide balls and poorly-timed lunges, and Sigurdsson’s erm, I’m not sure what they’re there for.
Ah, so that’s what Sigurdsson can do
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I assume Keane scored. Myt stream died and when it restarted it said 2-2. I was plasantly surprised.
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I’m not using it as a criticism of Gueye, he’s been everywhere.
More than he’s doing his own job and Schneiderlin’s
I think they are both doing well fault is the centre back pairing Baines and a poor keeper
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saved by the flag
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That was weird.
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Don't undersell how bad this midfield is.
Schneiderlin is a decent but safe passer who doesn't show for the ball enough and no longer offers anything defensively.
Sigurdsson runs a lot and is dangerous on the off chance that the ball falls to him in a great position but he is seriously uninvolved. Tosun does more in the build-up phase than he does.
Gana is good at pressuring the ball wherever he is but do we really want him receiving the ball in attacking situations?
Schneiderlin definitely needs to be dropped, Gana needs to sit deeper, and I'd seriously consider Sigurdsson's role in the team.
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I think the midifeld has done quite well the defenders need to defend occasionally
They create fuck all is my point.
It’s not their fault, it’s just none of them were made that way (apart from Sigurdsson from set-pieces)
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Fly made me shit myself for a second
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maybe give Keane a little confidence
Won't give him defensive ability though
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Fuck me, I nearly shat myself at that wasp.
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I know it was disallowed, but does Stekelenburg ever save anything? I can't recall him getting even close to one in pre-season.
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Don't undersell how bad this midfield is.
Schneiderlin is a decent but safe passer who doesn't show for the ball enough and no longer offers anything defensively.
Sigurdsson runs a lot and is dangerous on the off chance that the ball falls to him in a great position but he is seriously uninvolved. Tosun does more in the build-up phase than he does.
Gana is good at pressuring the ball wherever he is but do we really want him receiving the ball in attacking situations?
Schneiderlin definitely needs to be dropped, Gana needs to sit deeper, and I'd seriously consider Sigurdsson's role in the team.
Couldn’t agree more with this
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Don't undersell how bad this midfield is.
Schneiderlin is a decent but safe passer who doesn't show for the ball enough and no longer offers anything defensively.
Sigurdsson runs a lot and is dangerous on the off chance that the ball falls to him in a great position but he is seriously uninvolved. Tosun does more in the build-up phase than he does.
Gana is good at pressuring the ball wherever he is but do we really want him receiving the ball in attacking situations?
Schneiderlin definitely needs to be dropped, Gana needs to sit deeper, and I'd seriously consider Sigurdsson's role in the team.
I like Gueye but the other 2 dont do close to enough to enable us to get away with playing gueye whos abilities are totally defensive
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I know it was disallowed, but does Stekelenburg ever save anything? I can't recall him getting even close to one in pre-season.
I hope the big 18 year-old is ready to step up if Pickford gets injured/is sold
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Baines looks done, doesn't he?
Wonder if we can get Robinson back from loan?
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Tosuns is under rated technically
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Keane, Morgan and Sigurdsson are 3 massive mistakes for massive money. If wed made 3 great signings instead of 3 shite 1s we'd have a very very good team
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We should just forget about any more goals we concede now, we know the issue.
Just enjoy any attacking we do...
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Richarlison is going to be great. Really impressed me
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Richarlison is such a great little player. Control is superb. Very impressed with him so far,
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We are gonna be like that Spurs side years ago who played 4-1-5. Looks like we'll see plenty of goals both ends this season
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Gueye is underrated going forward, he’s not massively creative but he’s a good ball carrier
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Gueye has really impressed. Really sharp
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What a beautiful ball.
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Gueye is underrated going forward, he’s not massively creative but he’s a good ball carrier
He's done well this game, but in general he's poor imo. Prefer him back deeper.
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Give me Davies-Dowell for Schneiderlin-Sigurdsson at half time.
I want to see what the difference is keeping the rest of the team around them the same.
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Get your head on that Theo
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Baines can still cross a ball...
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We need to remember as well, these qualified for the CL in La Liga. They're a better side than us.
I think we've been the better team in this game, and I also think we've dominated the midfield.
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Keane, Morgan and Sigurdsson are 3 massive mistakes for massive money. If wed made 3 great signings instead of 3 shite 1s we'd have a very very good team
Fucking awful players
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He's done well this game, but in general he's poor imo. Prefer him back deeper.
He seems to be taking on board new instructions, taking the ball and turning with it rather than just passing straight back to the CBs.
Doesn’t look entirely natural yet, but good to see a player developing
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Fucking ball from Richarlison. Walcott should have done better
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Fucking ball from Richarlison. Walcott should have done better
Two in a row, the one wide to Baines was a beaut too
Shame Walcott doesn’t have a left foot, although he wouldn’t be playing for us if he did
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Want to see Pickford and Dinge on at half time at the very least.
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We know we need a defender. I'm really pleased with the rest so far
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Don't undersell how bad this midfield is.
Schneiderlin is a decent but safe passer who doesn't show for the ball enough and no longer offers anything defensively.
Sigurdsson runs a lot and is dangerous on the off chance that the ball falls to him in a great position but he is seriously uninvolved. Tosun does more in the build-up phase than he does.
Gana is good at pressuring the ball wherever he is but do we really want him receiving the ball in attacking situations?
Schneiderlin definitely needs to be dropped, Gana needs to sit deeper, and I'd seriously consider Sigurdsson's role in the team.
We should see what Sig can do creatively with Richarlison, Walcott, and Tosun in the team with him. Never really had similar options in front of him on a consistent basis. That through ball for Walcott being an example of what I hope will start occurring on a more frequent basis.
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Not really sure what a load of you have been watching. Defence has been typically shaky, but our 'terrible' midfield has been on top of theirs.
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Very happy with our front three.
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Good play Richy lad, unlucky.
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Premier league team going forward, Pub team defending
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Promising going forward, shocking going back.
Get Digne on.
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Better in attack today. If that young keeper is any good? It might be a good idea to make him Pickfords deputy. Stek has been pretty poor up to now. Much quicker and sharper today.
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Defensively, worrying, but attacking wise I’m really pleased. Some very good link up play especially down the left and we look like a team again. Keane got some confidence from that goal and Idrissa has dominated last 20 mins of that half
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I know it was disallowed, but does Stekelenburg ever save anything? I can't recall him getting even close to one in pre-season.
yeah, few -- if any -- goals against this preseason have involved glaring errors by Stekelenburg (though that one would have), but he has made at most one or two, if any, great saves -- and you need that on occasion from a keeper.
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i quite enjoyed that first half.. we looked half solid..
good attacking play, Cenk is class, cant believe the flappers who dont rate him.. good play by our front 3, they combine well with Siggy behind them.really liking Siggy infront of the 2 holding mids.. Schneiderlins been decent too!
would like to see Digne and Lookman in the second half.. maybe Dowell in Siggys role.
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Richarlison has got some stupendous cheekbones on him
🍆
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Watched the whole first half on a good stream but without commentary, anyone got a stream with commentary that doesn’t require sign up ?
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I’d really like to see what we look like without Schneiderlin on the pitch
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Not really sure what a load of you have been watching. Defence has been typically shaky, but our 'terrible' midfield has been on top of theirs.
Yeah been really good for me and a good team ethic
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Watched the whole first half on a good stream but without commentary, anyone got a stream with commentary that doesn’t require sign up ?
No commentary when you at the game ,man up.
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Just to re-iterate, we're playing a Champions League side here, who finished above Sevilla, Villarreal etc, and only finished 3 pts behind Real Madrid, and 6 pts behind Atletico Madrid.
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Pickford on to scream at the back might make the fuckers wake up, up top better up to now.
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I'm of the unpopular opinion that Keane or Jagielka will look infinitely better if they arent playing together. One decent CB and we'll be fine
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Cenk average at almost everything - but the boy is a fucking gunman.
Great finish, great run, great ball from Theo as well.
No control or progression from midfield, Gylfi on the edge of the box like a 4th attacker rather than coming to get the ball in the final third. Will be an issue this year. Leaves Morgan and Gana to the build up which is less than great.
Baines and richarlison good understanding. He’s superb in the air this lad isn’t he. Keeps the ball very well and beats his man one on one no probs.
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too lazy to click back, what was the starting back 4 there lads?
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Theo is class
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too lazy to click back, what was the starting back 4 there lads?
Coleman Jags Keane Baines
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Glad we signed a promising young keeper.
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Digne on!
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Go ed Lucas lad. Looking forward to watching him.
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Digne on!
better sub than a few of suggestions on here
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Ooo we have commentary now.
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Half time
back online now
Everton 2-2 Valencia
Bad defending led to both of the Valencia goals
Baines exposed on the back post leaving Rodrigo to control and poke home and was left for dead for their second too.
great work from Walcott dancing through 5 players to lay it off to Tosun who fired home with a decent finish and Keane with a decent finiish
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Everton TV commentary on now, and they "don't know much about Digne except he's wearing a Blue shirt." Jesus wept.
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Digne starting the 2nd half
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It’s probably been said, but Neto is a great name for a Spanish keeper.
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Streams guys?
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I wonder what the equivalent Valencia forum board is saying about their performance right now?
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Streams guys?
https://www.vipleague.lc/2-everton-fc-vs-valencia-live-streaming no comms
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I wonder what the equivalent Valencia forum board is saying about their performance right now?
Possibly wondering why their CL midfield is getting dominated by an awful midfield.
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Richarlison can surely draw a foul. That's going to be very useful with Sigurdsson and Baines on FK duty.
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Keane, Morgan and Sigurdsson are 3 massive mistakes for massive money. If wed made 3 great signings instead of 3 shite 1s we'd have a very very good team
Only we could pay over £100m for three players and probably look a more fluid team without them in the side.
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Richarlison can surely draw a foul. That's going to be very useful with Sigurdsson and Baines on FK duty.
Likely just Siggy now.
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Siggurdson is disappointing.
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Siggurdson is disappointing.
It’s not quite clicking but he’s been more involved in the 5 minutes this half than all of the first half
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Ffs we got no ballboys ?
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Ffs we got no ballboys ?
Still on holiday after the world cup.
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I wonder what the equivalent Valencia forum board is saying about their performance right now?
Our attacko very lucky to be playing mucho shite deffensio
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Bournemouth 5-0 Up Against Marseille after 56 minutes
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Siggurdson is disappointing.
he's fucking shite
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Fucking awesome by Coleman there, flooring their 22
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Gana's been better on the ball in this match. Played some nice little sharp passes in tight areas.
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The Gwladys street trying to start singing preseason is like when we are playing Wigan and getting beat 3-0
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Looks like Sandro ahead of Lookman then.
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he's fucking shite
He’s not but he isn’t what this side needs, in that position.
I’d be tempted to put him in Schneiderlin’s position and Dowell at No 10 and see how that goes.
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Sandro rather than Lookman is dissapointing
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Sandro for Walcott on 60'. Sensible, though might have hoped to see Lookman.
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Would still like to see more of Gana, Davies, and Siggy as the midfield three.
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They've pressed our defence second half which has sucked the life out the game
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He’s not but he isn’t what this side needs, in that position.
I’d be tempted to put him in Schneiderlin’s position and Dowell at No 10 and see how that goes.
Would be up for anything that got shut of Schneiderling
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They've pressed our defence second half which has sucked the life out the game
Yeah, I will imagine it is a tactic that will provide a bit of success for opposing teams if we keep this central defence
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Been waiting long enough for sugursdon to come good he's been given a fair crack and more leniency from the fans than most. He doesn't really offer anything other than free kick delivery
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Sandro for Walcott on 60'. Sensible, though might have hoped to see Lookman.
If rumours are true that he’s sulking for a move to RBL, I can’t imagine he’s working his bollocks off in training.
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Thats a fantastic turn by Tosan
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They have fouled us a lot second half as well difficult to get any moves going
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If rumours are true that he’s sulking for a move to RBL, I can’t imagine he’s working his bollocks off in training.
Then it's on him that he's not getting any game time then.
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Fizzer across the box that
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WExcellent Work by Digne down the left, fireed across the face of goal with no-one there to meet it
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Well worked, Sigurdsson, great ball from Digne
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Wolves lead Villarreal 2-1...
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Wolves lead Villarreal 2-1...
I'm happy for them.
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Mistake by Dinge.
Sell him.
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Digne redeemed himself there
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I'm happy for them.
I'm not, wish they were getting snotted.
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DCL and Tom Davies imminent
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We’re much better at getting out once the first ball is cleared, it’s a great site seeing the whole midfield rush out and press.
So different to the sitting back from last season
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I'm not, wish they were getting snotted.
But it’s largely irrelevant.
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Nice to see DCL.
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I'm not, wish they were getting snotted.
I'd rather see that happen next week when it matters.
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What an absolute peach of a goal
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Ewww DCL scratches his plums and then high tens Tosun.
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Kinell Sandro lad
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Kinell what a shot...
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Oh bollocks.
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Great goal terrible miscommunication
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Sandro. oh my fuck.
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Pure comedy watching us defend.
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The defender has to take control and put his foot through that there
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Sandro left the pass short, and then made sure it was a good chance by going and tackling Seamus.
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God damn, Sandro.
I really, really hope we see Lookman today...
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Lookman coming on
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Siri, can you define "worse than useless"?
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Nice welcome for Lookman.
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Lookman, yes!
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Okay, now do Dowell.
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Second half has been a bit of a non-event really
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Davies showing fuck all
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DCL coming on ?
No, Dowell.
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DCL coming on ?
He’s been on for about 15 minutes
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Boring as fuck nothing second half subs making zero impact
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DCL coming on ?
Been on a while, just hasn’t touched the ball.
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Saw DCL on the touchline and thought he was still waiting to come on... :snigger:
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Stop start second half. First half was great and I think we can take more heart from that.
But it took Valencia and us to beat us, so we need to focus on getting that defence shored up asap.
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Davies complete waste of space
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Still not liking what I see at the back.
Going forward though we’re sound.
This will be a very good team in 18 months time when Silva has been allowed to get two centre halves and two midfielders.
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Big defensive problems and only a week to fix them.
But at least we scored a couple of goals and made some chances.
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Gana MOTM for us. After he went off everything went to pot
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Silva pulling Sandro up to have a word at the end ?
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Still not liking what I see at the back.
Going forward though we’re sound.
This will be a very good team in 18 months time when Silva has been allowed to get two centre halves and two midfielders.
Replacements for Morgan and Sigurdsson and brand new centre backs and we look great.
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You all wanted Sigurdsson in the middle.
Don’t see your arse when he doesn’t perform in a friendly.
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Davies continuing where Rooney left off
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Silva pulling Sandro up to have a word at the end ?
Hopefully telling him to calm down.
Has absolutely no composure.
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Still not liking what I see at the back.
Going forward though we’re sound.
This will be a very good team in 18 months time when Silva has been allowed to get two centre halves and two midfielders.
I agree and hope most evertonians see that this is a project not a quick fix and Silva is afforded some patience. Hopefully the style of attacking football will do that.
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Thought Sandro was much worse than Davies. Calamitous little display from him.
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Thought Sandro was much worse than Davies. Calamitous little display from him.
He tries too hard.
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Gana MOTM for us. After he went off everything went to pot
Because he was replaced by a dud, Davies just isn’t going to make it, let’s forget all this local lad loyalty and realise he’s not going to make it in this league, he can neither pass nor dribble, on the couple of occasions that he showed for the ball he only ever passed back and more often than not to an opponent.
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Looked far better going forward 1st half, Walcott made a difference, as for defending I need not say anything other than we have our work cut out if we don’t sign at least one CB
Still no idea where to play Siggy or what our best midfield is, hope we sign a passing, dribbling quick thinking mid as our options in that dept are zero
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Hopefully telling him to calm down.
Has absolutely no composure.
Head is always down.
Not much football brain, there.
Lots of effort, though, which is impressive for an average 22 year-old footballer earning more than £100k per week 😬
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Gana will be sound in a more advanced role.
I worry for the rest of the midfielders though.
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Gana will be sound in a more advanced role.
I worry for the rest of the midfielders though.
Less advanced, do you mean?
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Less advanced, do you mean?
Nah, he’s playing further up the pitch isn’t he?
Think it suits him.
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I know it’s not a popular shout but if we could get £25m+ for Sig I’d take it. We need a proper box to box midfielder more than we need one who floats about the final third getting involved every 10 minutes or so and scoring a worldie every dozen or so games.
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Wolves beat Villa Real today, that’s on top of wins against Basel, Young Boys and a draw against Ajax, all away games, let’s hope their home form isn’t quite as impressive !
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I agree and hope most evertonians see that this is a project not a quick fix and Silva is afforded some patience. Hopefully the style of attacking football will do that.
The two aren't mutually exclusive. We need to quickly shore up our defence somehow first, then we can think about the long-term.
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Nah, he’s playing further up the pitch isn’t he?
Think it suits him.
Yeah he is, but I don’t think it suits him.
He performed it better today than he has done previously, but I think he lacks the required quality on the ball in that role to really make a dent on most opposing midfields.
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I know it’s not a popular shout but if we could get £25m+ for Sig I’d take it. We need a proper box to box midfielder more than we need one who floats about the final third getting involved every 10 minutes or so and scoring a worldie every dozen or so games.
Yes, I agree.
He’s great when he gets a chance, but he’s pretty slow into challenges and in contesting loose balls, and he isn’t a throughball merchant by any stretch.
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How did Richarlison play ? I assume the defence were woeful again ?
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Yeah he is, but I don’t think it suits him.
He performed it better today than he has done previously, but I think he lacks the required quality on the ball in that role to really make a dent on most opposing midfields.
If you’re a pressing CM you’re never the deepest player.
Examples are early 2000’S Milan where Pirlo would be the furthest back with Gattuso pressing ahead; and Chelsea two years ago with Matic deeper and Kanye ahead.
He needs to be comfortable further forward, even if it’s just 5 yard lay offs to others.
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I don’t think Sig is a lost cause, he’s a great all rounder so I’m confident he can adapt to what’s needed from him
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Big fan of Gueye past the halfway today.
I think we'll see one defender come in and have to be patient. We'll have a decent season with mixed results but better football i reckon while Silva gets a tune out of some of these players. I'm ok with that and i think Sigurdsson will grow into this team with games much like he started to last season prior to injury
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So we won pre season 27-12 on aggregate!
... Lads?
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What do I have to do to get it? (I’m a techidiot)
Sorry about the delay -I was watching the match! What is it you are not sure of ? What phone do you have ?
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I don’t think Sig is a lost cause, he’s a great all rounder so I’m confident he can adapt to what’s needed from him
Still hopeful as well, but he will need more time to grow into Marco's style. And I think he'd do better paired with another ACM that he could play off of. Gana, to me, has all the traits needed to be a lone press DCM.
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Im nearly 50 and have had a season ticket almost half my life, and Ive seen some poor defences and some very shocking seasons. But Ive rarely seen such a nervous cb pairing and lack of defensive team “cohesion” which looks like were going to concede from almost every attack. Pickford will make a difference, but even adding a new better CB player may not be enough. We really need 2 tidy, steady additions to come straight into the team.
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If you’re a pressing CM you’re never the deepest player.
Examples are early 2000’S Milan where Pirlo would be the furthest back with Gattuso pressing ahead; and Chelsea two years ago with Matic deeper and Kanye ahead.
He needs to be comfortable further forward, even if it’s just 5 yard lay offs to others.
I knew he was good at music production and being a controversial tit, but I had know idea he played midfield for Chelsea :shock:
In all seriousness, Kante is a good example of a presser who can also start attacks.
I just doubt that Gana can, unfortunately.
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Sorry about the delay -I was watching the match! What is it you are not sure of ? What phone do you have ?
Haha, wanker 👍🏼
I was fine, thanks
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Examples are early 2000’S Milan where Pirlo would be the furthest back with Gattuso pressing ahead; and Chelsea two years ago with Matic deeper and Kanye ahead.
That's all well and good if you have Pirlo or a back three with defenders like Luiz and Azpilicueta who take the passing burden off of the midfield.
We don't.
The only possibility Gana opens up for us when he plays further forward is that a chance we worked really hard to create will fall to his feet (not great, he's not a good finisher). His work higher up the pitch rarely ever results in the types of counterattacking opportunities we need him to create for him to have any value in that role.
He can use all of his skills -- pressuring and winning the ball, playing simple passes, dribbling away from trouble -- to great effect further back, cleaning up after our more attack-minded midfielders. Which is where his best performances here have been -- sitting alongside Barry when he first signed and mopping up for Davies and Rooney last season.
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That's all well and good if you have Pirlo or a back three with defenders like Luiz and Azpilicueta who take the passing burden off of the midfield.
We don't.
The only possibility Gana opens up for us when he plays further forward is that a chance we worked really hard to create will fall to his feet (and he's a crap finisher). His work higher up the pitch rarely ever results in the types of counterattacking opportunities we need him to create for him to have any value in that role.
He can use all of his skills -- pressuring and winning the ball, playing simple passes, dribbling away from trouble -- to great effect further back, cleaning up after our more attack-minded midfielders. Which is where his best performances here have been -- sitting alongside Barry when he first signed and mopping up for Davies and Rooney last season.
We all know about these problems, but there's only so many things that can be solved, and fires that can be put out, in one condensed transfer window.
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Yes, I agree.
He’s great when he gets a chance, but he’s pretty slow into challenges and in contesting loose balls, and he isn’t a throughball merchant by any stretch.
Yeh I don’t want it to seem as if I’m getting on his back but for our record signing, highest paid player at the club, most pivotal position on the pitch and hitting his peak years an expectation to consistently deliver isn’t unreasonable
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We all know about these problems, but there's only so many things that can be solved, and fires that can be put out, in one condensed transfer window.
But we don't need the window to make it better. All Silva needs to do is drop Schneiderlin for Davies or Dowell.
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I knew he was good at music production and being a controversial tit, but I had know idea he played midfield for Chelsea :shock:
In all seriousness, Kante is a good example of a presser who can also start attacks.
I just doubt that Gana can, unfortunately.
Yeezy is better with the ball than Gueye but he’s still more a shuffle the play forward player with more basic passes or simply carrying it 30 yards up the pitch.
He’s what Gueye needs to copy and let the deeper position take care of itself.
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But we don't need the window to make it better. All Silva needs to do is drop Schneiderlin for Davies or Dowell.
They had their chance this pre season but have shown fuck all unfortunately.
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But we don't need the window to make it better. All Silva needs to do is drop Schneiderlin for Davies or Dowell.
Not convinced either of them is ready to play a full season in the Prem, trying to run a midfield personally. I like them as options to develop.
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Yeezy is better with the ball than Gueye but he’s still more a shuffle the play forward player with more basic passes or simply carrying it 30 yards up the pitch.
He’s what Gueye needs to copy and let the deeper position take care of itself.
Yeah, Yeezy is the standard for all-round midfield play, for sure.
Shame his after-match interviews take 30 mins, and often descends into him bleating on about how black lives don’t really matter much at all, and how Versace is the truth, y’all.
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They had their chance this pre season but have shown fuck all unfortunately.
There lies the problem. We have depth but not strength in depth.
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Full match for those that missed it
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The tension in the crowd every time the ball went near Jags or Keane was horrible
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Not to worried. Our pre seasons are always shit and seem poorly planned. Last productive pre season we had was under Martinez when we was in that cup with Madrid in it
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We'll twat Wolves next week
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Am I getting this right, are people really saying we should bin Gana because the players around him are shit?
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https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1025788971035570177
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Not convinced either of them is ready to play a full season in the Prem, trying to run a midfield personally. I like them as options to develop.
I don't think the idea was that either of them should be the main man. There would still be seasoned internationals alongside them in Gueye and Sigurdsson.
It's about balance and making the most of what we have. Have we ever looked good with Gueye and Schneiderlin together? No. Does anyone think Schneiderlin offers more than Gueye defensively? Not really. There's a decent argument though that both Davies and Dowell would offer more in attack than Gueye.
You could, for example, play Dowell mainly in the home games as he's probably got a bit more guile to create chances and his shooting from outside the box could be useful against set defences.
As a less attacking and better defensive player, Davies might be a better option away.
Neither needs to carry the weight of the team on their shoulders and nor should they. We have ample evidence now though that by shoehorning Gueye and Schneiderlin both into the team that we cede control of the match which leads to the defence being left vulnerable and exposed.
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Agreed. Gueye and Schneiderlin should never be in the same side. I’d prefer it if I never saw Schneiderlin again but I appreciate that I’m not going to get that wish.
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I don't think the idea was that either of them should be the main man. There would still be seasoned internationals alongside them in Gueye and Sigurdsson.
It's about balance and making the most of what we have. Have we ever looked good with Gueye and Schneiderlin together? No. Does anyone think Schneiderlin offers more than Gueye defensively? Not really. There's a decent argument though that both Davies and Dowell would offer more in attack than Gueye.
You could, for example, play Dowell mainly in the home games as he's probably got a bit more guile to create chances and his shooting from outside the box could be useful against set defences.
As a less attacking and better defensive player, Davies might be a better option away.
Neither needs to carry the weight of the team on their shoulders and nor should they. We have ample evidence now though that by shoehorning Gueye and Schneiderlin both into the team that we cede control of the match which leads to the defence being left vulnerable and exposed.
Agree with this. Having seen Davies play, and play well, in meaningful matches - I care less about seeing spark in friendlies than I do wrt Dowell. Then again, I have never really seen much with Dowell.
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Agreed. Gueye and Schneiderlin should never be in the same side. I’d prefer it if I never saw Schneiderlin again but I appreciate that I’m not going to get that wish.
If we could fuck him off, I'd rather have Besic for squad cover/depth.
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We'll twat Wolves next week
Don't know who we'll twat but we are a good thing for both teams to score.
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Hearing whispers they’re doing pizza at the ground now.
Can anyone confirm?
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Don't know who we'll twat but we are a good thing for both teams to score.
yeah, bet the fuck out of that one
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Good to read
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1025790214558625792?s=20
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Hearing whispers they’re doing pizza at the ground now.
Can anyone confirm?
There's a papa johns stand in the gwladys now. Strong rumours they will be taking over from Sportspesa as the main sponsor
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There's a papa johns stand in the gwladys now. Strong rumours they will be taking over from Sportspesa as the main sponsor
Let’s hope they deliver.
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There's a papa johns stand in the gwladys now. Strong rumours they will be taking over from Sportspesa as the main sponsor
Papa Johns garlic dip 👌🏼
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There's a papa johns stand in the gwladys now. Strong rumours they will be taking over from Sportspesa as the main sponsor
Has Joyce confirmed this yet?
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Hearing whispers they’re doing pizza at the ground now.
Can anyone confirm?
They were doing Pepperoni pizzas in the lower Gwladys today like. All the tea bars have been facelifted and they were handing out free samples of the new burgers and wraps that they are doing now too and they were very nice indeed. Noticed that they are also doing cheese topped hot dogs too!
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Thought the atmosphere outside the ground was good ,club shop packed ,food and drink vendors doing a roaring trade from the thousands milling about. Inside it was like a funeral except when we scored (2 good goals like ) Couldn't understand the p.a.system and the bogs stink worse than last season. Great to be back at Goodison though.
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All this new food should hopefully mean a better quality of fart lingering around the back of the Lower Bullens and Lower Gwladys. :)
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All this new food should hopefully mean a better quality of fart lingering around the back of the Lower Bullens and Lower Gwladys. :)
Those stale ale farts could really do with some spicing up. Hopefully our new signing Papa John delivers this season.
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Those stale ale farts could really do with some spicing up. Hopefully our new signing Papa John delivers this season.
You know it's bad when you the only reason you go to the bog at half time is to get fresh air.
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Can't believe we gave Stekelenberg a new contract.
He's not been interested in playing first team football anywhere for about 5 years. Might well be a good professional and he doesn't produce any howlers but he's allergic to stopping goals.
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You know it's bad when you the only reason you go to the bog at half time is to get fresh air.
Piss or gut rot, what a choice!
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Can't believe we gave Stekelenberg a new contract.
He's not been interested in playing first team football anywhere for about 5 years. Might well be a good professional and he doesn't produce any howlers but he's allergic to stopping goals.
Yup, and we can say goodbye to a cup run with him in net, if Pickford is rested. Hopefully the new young keeper gets a run out. Cant be any worse. Well, hopefully!
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Yup, and we can say goodbye to a cup run with him in net, if Pickford is rested. Hopefully the new young keeper gets a run out. Cant be any worse. Well, hopefully!
How many teams have 2 world class keepers? It must be hard going from being a reserve to playing in competetive matches, yes he's not the greatest keeper In the world, but is he that far of the mark with regards to his peers?
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With regards to the Davies/Schneiderlin/Gueye debate, I would have no hesitation in binning off Schneiderlin. I think Basic offers more defensively, 100 times more workrate, 10 times faster, just as comfortable on the ball and I don't think there's that much to choose between them when it comes to passing either.
On top of that, we still have young Baningime don't we? He's always impressed me when he's come on and I'd like to see him develop a bit more this season too.
Davies, Gueye, Baningime, Besic? We just don't need Schneiderlin and his half-arsed performances.
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All this new food should hopefully mean a better quality of fart lingering around the back of the Lower Bullens and Lower Gwladys. :)
The older Evertonians amoungst us who remember the Gwladys when it was all standing tell tales about feeling other fellas farts on their legs, would warm you up on a cold December afternoon
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Can't believe we gave Stekelenberg a new contract.
He's not been interested in playing first team football anywhere for about 5 years. Might well be a good professional and he doesn't produce any howlers but he's allergic to stopping goals.
I'm pretty sure we can tempt Carlo Nash out of retirement to sit on the bench. (How did he know when to retire?)
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You guys are stinking this place out with all the fart talk.
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They were doing Pepperoni pizzas in the lower Gwladys today like. All the tea bars have been facelifted and they were handing out free samples of the new burgers and wraps that they are doing now too and they were very nice indeed. Noticed that they are also doing cheese topped hot dogs too!
Didn’t see any of this in the upper!
corrs light has been added to the bar, think that’s new like.