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Title: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on November 25, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
This will be tough. I hope that Gibson and Mirallas will be back. I predict a 1-0 win, but it'll be anything but comfortable
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Verm on November 25, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
Need a result from 1 or 2 of these next 3 games to scrape back a shred of hope about pushing the top 4.

Unfortunately I just can't see where that result is going to come from.

2-1 to Arsenal.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blob on November 25, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
the enigma continues.

win 3-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 25, 2012, 07:28:33 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 25, 2012, 07:41:53 PM
Another draw 1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: pjk on November 25, 2012, 08:24:26 PM
Been very disappointed with our recent results and points tally. We' ve not had much in the way of luck, especially where the officials are concerned. Shoguns predictions league is a great thread, but, I have started to get superstitious about me predicting our results. Mainly because I'm completely bias and predict a win almost every game. So! no more predictions from me. Come on you Blues! give us a timely win. :)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 25, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
Think we may take a hiding here but then beat City away

1-4 defeat.  Team almost impossible to predict but I'll guess this

                 Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Distin  Baines

Naismith  Hitzlsperger Osman Pienaar
                  Fellaini
                   Jelavic
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 25, 2012, 08:30:25 PM
no way we will lose 4-1, Arsenals confidence is as low as ours at the moment and bar a derby win they've been pretty underwhelming too.

I think it will be a draw as usual. 2-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 25, 2012, 08:35:57 PM
               Howard
Hibbert  Jags     Distin    Baines


Oviedo  Hitz      Osman   Pienaar

                 Fellaini

                  Jelavic


Thats what the team should be  :)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 25, 2012, 09:15:45 PM
Not looking forward to this at all
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: nickrailroad on November 25, 2012, 10:14:43 PM
I expect Kev and Gibson were left out of Saturday so they were in better shape for Wednesday;

Howard

Hibbert  Jags  Distin  Baines

Mirallas  Ossie  Gibbo  Pienaar
               Felli
              Jelavic

2-1 home win x
Title: Re: RE: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 25, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Fellaini needs to have a stormer

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: steve81 on November 25, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
more than a little concerned about this game to be honest

unless we're careful we could ship a lot of goals
yeah 1-4
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Risky on November 25, 2012, 11:48:44 PM
This is a pivotal game I think.  Turn in a good performance under the lights and pick up a result and that could restart our season.  Another defeat and things really aren't looking good at all.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 25, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
At least we know Arsenal won't sit back and defend against us it will be an open game, which will benefit us. We will win this game i am fully confident.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: steve81 on November 26, 2012, 12:05:55 AM
i would swap marouanne for naismith and hibbert or coleman for heitinga although i hope mirallas is back to. I have given up on gibson returning anytime soon
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on November 26, 2012, 12:10:30 AM
Why everyone so scared. Arsenal can't defend anybody with height. Fellaini will be reset and up for this Pienaar will be up for it. Always plays well against ten. They won't just defend.

Arsenal are playing worse than us right now and they have nobody that we should be scared of. 2-1 to us. Not even maybe.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Bluebridge on November 26, 2012, 12:47:05 AM
Draw ( not predicting wins anymore! )
2-2
Fellaini
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 26, 2012, 01:18:16 AM
this one is a tough one to call, one we could win but all depending on who starts, i dont think hitzlesperger and osman are a good combination, both too attack minded, and hitzlesperger poor in some tackles, if gibsons not fit i would start fellaini beside osman play oviedo pienaar and naismith further forward, either way oviedo needs to start, a willing runner who can get to the by line and put a ball in, some of his first touches yesterday were amazing, need jagielka back in the middle for this one so hopefully hibberts ready to start i think will show a considerable improvement in defence. my team would be:

Howard
Hibbert jagielka distin baines
gibson/fellaini  osman
pienaar naismith/fellaini oviedo
jelavic

and moyes needs to sort his tactics out, second halves v reading and norwich we werent in the game and we should change it, i know we are light on the ground in terms of replacements but barkley could have came on yesterday for the underperforming pienaar, it was clear we had tiring players ome 70 mins, gueye for naismith or at least change the tactics, throw naismith up front beside jelavic and let them try hold the ball up and build possession and get back into the game, we are on a bad streak but hopefully that will pick up, everyone goes on them!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: cantoffee on November 26, 2012, 02:30:19 AM
Going to be very tough, I don`t care what happens at City but we can`t afford to drop points at home to Arsenal or Spurs.

Goodison should be rocking and with Fellaini back and hopefully the possible appearance of Gibson and Mirallas, even from the bench will give us enough to grab the three points.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: glynn_parry on November 26, 2012, 02:34:21 AM
Hope Tim Howard picks his socks up think it was a simple save against Norwich and the Ruiz freekick could have been dealt with better. We need him to be making saves, especially with the defence looking weak at times.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines

Mirallas Osman Gibson Pienaar

              Fellaini
                          Jelavic
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: evertonarntwe on November 26, 2012, 02:48:02 AM
We'll either turn up and put in a wonderful performance and win, top4 again etc etc or get fucked about 3-0, can see it being the latter after saturday, we'll win one of these 3 games though
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 26, 2012, 03:23:06 AM
I do think people are overreacting a little, we have been poor lately but some of the above posts are right, Arsenal aren't fantastic, IF we can pick up our game, and it has to happen eventually, this is very winnable. 

Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 26, 2012, 03:43:10 AM
I think one one

Howard
Hibbert jagielka distin baines
Mirallas osman Gibson pienaar
Fellaini
Jelavic

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 26, 2012, 03:45:26 AM
I think one one

Howard
Hibbert jagielka distin baines
Mirallas osman Gibson pienaar
Fellaini
Jelavic

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Would love to see that team but doubt Gibson or Mirallas will start.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Gumpinio on November 26, 2012, 03:47:17 AM
                       Howard

Coleman    Jagielka    Distin     Baines

Mirallas  Hitzelsberger  Gibson  Oviedo

                         Fellaini

                          Jelavic
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 26, 2012, 03:50:36 AM
Would love to see that team but doubt Gibson or Mirallas will start.

Am hoping for some moyes double bluffing

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: bluegrant on November 26, 2012, 05:42:34 AM
2-0 to the arse ,moyes brings on 3 subs after 91 mins pmsl lolol
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 26, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
I hope to see:

Howard

Hibbert Jags Distin Baines

Pienaar Fellaini Osman Oviedo

Mirallas

Jelavic

Push Fellaini further forward if we need to later on, but we need some steel in midfield. If Mirallas isn't fit, then Fellaini further forward to begin with and Hitz with Osman.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: glynn_parry on November 26, 2012, 06:05:05 AM
Arse have been shite but we can't defend no clean sheets in the last nine games!

Gibson is crucial he was class in September he played in both the Man Utd and Villa dominant wins.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Maestro Haze on November 26, 2012, 11:21:38 AM
Looking forward to this one. We have Fellaini back, and hopefully Mirallas and Gibson. We are under the floodlights and Arsenal aren't playing well, and are short of confidence like us at the moment.
We are more than capable of beating them but we really need our quality players back.
I would be bold enough to put Oviedo on the left but it also depends on whether Mirallas is ok to play.
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on November 26, 2012, 12:34:02 PM
Not looking forward to this one. Yes we can score against almost anyone but not always enough and if we can't shut out Norwich, don't fancy our chances against Arsenal if it's level with ten mins to go.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: McMoyes on November 26, 2012, 02:20:14 PM
I can see a hiding here.

We are very much on a downward spiral with all early season momentum well and truly gone now. All this talk of a good start baffles me, considering the teams we have played and dropped points against it is a very average start.

We also have a couple of key players in bad form - Howard, Pienaar and Jelavic.

Arsenal can score goals for fun and our defence is about as solid as OJ Simpsons defence.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: nomorechang on November 26, 2012, 02:33:38 PM
Easy win, even though we're not as good as our early season form we're still better than the Arse
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on November 26, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
If Mirallas and Gibson are back I can see a draw.

I would be in favour of dropping Pienaar for Oviedo.

If we are struggling on the hour I would like to see Vellios on sooner to aid Jelavic.

1-1.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on November 26, 2012, 04:03:38 PM
Arsenal can score goals for fun and our defence is about as solid as OJ Simpsons defence.

Hope so!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 26, 2012, 04:08:53 PM
Hope so!

Me too we could get away with murder

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: goodison4 on November 26, 2012, 04:36:30 PM
match will be postponed due to heavy rain - waterlogged pitch
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Alanvideo on November 26, 2012, 05:00:23 PM
More chance of beating a footballing team than a rugby team like Norwich . Hibbert and Fellaini back and maybe Gibson and Mirallas from the bench. 2-1. :hail:
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: GLewis on November 26, 2012, 05:32:26 PM
Whoever we are playing against the key thing, at present, is if we can improve our ratio of shots to goals.

The current one of about 15 shots for every one goal is terrible.

Whether we're due a bit of luck or whether we normally would be doing better and therefore it'll improve in time remains to be seen.

We definitely shouldn't be writing this one off though. They're below us which, given our form over the last 7 or 8 games, says something about them.

And also, while we haven't played anyone of real substance (bar Utd) we don't actually know how we're going to play against the better teams.

Maybe the knowledge that we have to be more clinical will subliminally make us concentrate more at both ends?

But back to the original point, whatever the reason for it our finishing has to improve otherwise the season won't be much different from the recent games.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: dunleerblue on November 26, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
howard is a coward in goal, mucha in for this irrespctive of consequences
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: The Golden Vision on November 26, 2012, 07:37:39 PM
                                         Howard

Jagielka               Heitinga            Distin          Baines


Mirallas                   Fritzl             Osman        Oviedo

                                        Fellaini

                                        Jelavic

2-2 draw

Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 26, 2012, 10:47:34 PM
------------------------------Howard--------------------------
-------Hibbert--------Jagielka----Distin--------Baines------
---------------------Hitzlsperger----Osman-------------------
---------Naismith/Oviedo---Fellaini--------Pienaar-----------
------------------------------Jelavic----------------------------


I'll be shocked if Hibbert doesn't play, the reason he won't have played Saturday (yet was still on the bench) was to probably save him for this game.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 26, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
If mirallas is fit

Howard
Hibbert jags distin baines
Osman hitz
Naismith fellaini oviedo
Mirallas

Jelavic and pienaar need to know they aren't untouchable!

2-1 everton, mirallas and jelavic winner off the bench!!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 26, 2012, 11:31:00 PM
How on Earth will dropping Jelavic help? he's in a slump and still scored like 5 in 12 games which would give him about 15 by the end of the season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 27, 2012, 01:34:04 AM
just might make him realise he needs to put a shift in when he doesn't score, because for me he doesn't do that at the moment!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 27, 2012, 02:08:20 AM
just might make him realise he needs to put a shift in when he doesn't score, because for me he doesn't do that at the moment!

He does put a shift in
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 27, 2012, 02:11:42 AM
He does put a shift in

hardly, eveytime there was a loose ball in the box saturday he was nowhere to be seen
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on November 27, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
We all know that Arsenal are no where near as good nowadays but i can keep us keeping a clean sheet in this one, tough game to call very tough, but will Fellaini and hopefully Mirallas back in we should have enough to beat them. We have to start winning our home games if we seriously want to challenge for that 4th spot, 3-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 27, 2012, 08:46:19 PM
Will be interesting to see if Oviedo continues to start, definitely would be harsh to drop him after that performance.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on November 27, 2012, 08:47:38 PM
Will be interesting to see if Oviedo continues to start, definitely would be harsh to drop him after that performance.

True dat.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 27, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
Moyes says similar starting XI as the weekend, refused to give any injury updates

http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/home/8002 (http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/home/8002)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 27, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
i would bring fellaini in for pienaar and also hibbert for heitinga, do not want to see jags at right back again!
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 27, 2012, 10:48:05 PM
I'd drop Naismith before pienaar

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 27, 2012, 10:59:33 PM
naismith offers more of a goal threat and gets into decent position into the box and hasn't done much wrong, pienaars been shite for the past couple of weeks now
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 27, 2012, 11:00:57 PM
Naismith has been shite most of the time he plays. Far worse than pienaar.

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 27, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
entitled to your opinion but he has 3 goals in his last 5 so he has a bit of form
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 27, 2012, 11:07:08 PM
Can't even remember the last time Pienaar had a shot.
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 27, 2012, 11:17:05 PM
Can't remember the last time Naismith could run properly and not give the ball away all the time. Pienaar is out of form but he's a class above.

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 27, 2012, 11:31:14 PM
With Blarg there
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 27, 2012, 11:34:01 PM

the referee for the match is Michael Oliver.

Everton's record under Oliver:

Played 7
Won 4
Draw 2
Loss 1 (on penalty shoot out)

Last result was 3-1 victory over Aston Villa in August 2012

Arsenal's record under Oliver:

Played 4
Won 1
Draw 0
Loss 3

Last result was 3-2 defeat to Swansea in January 2012
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
Would have thought that we'll see Hibbo in for Heitinga and Felli in for Oviedo.
Title: Re: RE: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 28, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
Yeah I think we will too but would prefer to retain Oviedo and drop Hitz.  Think we need Fellaini to control the game, not sure he will do that further up.

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: GLewis on November 28, 2012, 12:35:08 AM
Yeah I think we will too but would prefer to retain Oviedo and drop Hitz.  Think we need Fellaini to control the game, not sure he will do that further up.

Sent from Ankh Morpork

Possible both ways I guess.

Up top, if he's getting hold of the ball their midfield has to drop back.

Can see the argument for a deeper role too but I think from up top he can drop deep and influence the defensive side too if necessary.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 28, 2012, 01:13:43 AM
Possible both ways I guess.

Up top, if he's getting hold of the ball their midfield has to drop back.

Can see the argument for a deeper role too but I think from up top he can drop deep and influence the defensive side too if necessary.

Yes at his best he has the ability to do that, my concern is a central pairing of Osman and Hitz, as decent as he has started is weak against a mobile Arsenal midfield and Hitzlsperger in particular seems to tire badly (understandably) by the second half.  It will be interesting to see how Moyes plays it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: steve81 on November 28, 2012, 02:31:50 AM
Yeah I think we will too but would prefer to retain Oviedo and drop Hitz.  Think we need Fellaini to control the game, not sure he will do that further up.

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drop naismith instead of hitz
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 28, 2012, 02:33:21 AM
Would be great if Gibson can just be fit enough to split the game with Hitzlsberger; between the two you'd think they can put a shift in for the 90
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 28, 2012, 02:34:40 AM
drop naismith instead of hitz

If you do that though like it or not you reduce your attacking potency, we have been poor at the back so I would be reluctant to reduce our threat going forward.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2012, 04:09:54 AM
I would put Fellaini up top, and play long ball all fucking night, lets Stoke it up for this one
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 28, 2012, 05:10:29 AM
That means we have to defend very well and be very nippy in the middle of the park which we might not be up to

I would throw legs at them and press very hard in the middle and with Jelavic. They like to keep a high line. Seeing as we won't have a lot of pace in the side I think we'll need to keep their defence from advancing up the pitch as much as possible. Just my opinion like.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Rhys on November 28, 2012, 05:17:50 AM
Yeah I think we will too but would prefer to retain Oviedo and drop Hitz.  Think we need Fellaini to control the game, not sure he will do that further up.


Like he didnt manage to against United?? Fellaini can help us control a game more from up front than he can in midfield. By being up top he can bring the ball down, get key players into the game in the final third more often. We will create more chances with him being up there as well.

I get that Hitz will tire and Ossie will have to do a lot of running, running he may not be able to do. And yes we could do with Felli there, but in my opinion we would be ludicrous to play him deeper. We need him up front as we need the ball to stick regularly if we are going to have enough of the ball upfield to win the game. If its Pienaar, Jelavic, Mirallas etc off Jelavic in the form he is in we wont hold much ball up like we didnt on Saturday, they will control more of the game and there will only be so much felli can do from deeper.

We need him forward and ideally we need Gibson fit so at least we can swap Hitz/Gibson whoever starts when they tire to freshen it up.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 28, 2012, 05:24:28 AM
Someone will have to do a job on cazorla, I think I agree with regard to Fellaini, don't think anyone else is going to hold the ball in that crucial area so we can get and stay forward unless Mirallas is back fit miraculously.

Also for me I'd definitely play Oviedo because he offers some pace and an ability to get in behind in wide areas.

We will see though
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 28, 2012, 02:11:17 PM
Pienaar vs. Arsenal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5LpxPVpyI#)
fucking Rosicky.

Everton 1-0 Arsenal 2007. johnson. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWqvF8Juss0#)

Everton 2 Arsenal 1 wayne rooney scorcher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4dBWUjuCU0#)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: nomorechang on November 28, 2012, 06:04:41 PM
Oviedo has shown he's got skill and pace but I'd rather have Pienaar playing on the left with Bainsey, their combination is special and should be used as much as possible
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blargins on November 28, 2012, 06:48:48 PM
If fellaini is the only returnee, I'd go for:

Howard

Heitinga Jags Distin Baines

Pienaar Hitz Osman Oviedo

Fellaini

Jelavic

Would rather Fell back in midfield for this one, then pushed forward later on if need be. I know I've broken Baines and Pienaar up for this, but Pienaar and Oviedo can switch throughout. My thinking is give Pienaar a different role might help freshen him up a bit.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: johnstinkpants on November 28, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Along with Baines, Oviedo was our best player on Saturday. Would be harsh to leave him out, but I think Moyes might anyway
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Reinforcements have arrived, Gibson, Felli and Hibbo back in the squad

Thats from the Blue Union facebook page, make of it what you will, but I got a bit of a lob on  :)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 28, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
Reinforcements have arrived, Gibson, Felli and Hibbo back in the squad

Thats from the Blue Union facebook page, make of it what you will, but I got a bit of a lob on  :)
After a shite day that would be some welcome news
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 28, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
Hibbert was in the squad Saturday and Felli was always going to be back. Unless they mean starting.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 12:15:39 AM
Reinforcements have arrived, Gibson, Felli and Hibbo back in the squad

Thats from the Blue Union facebook page, make of it what you will, but I got a bit of a lob on  :)

If the Fab Four are back I think we might win
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 12:20:08 AM
Reinforcements have arrived, Gibson, Felli and Hibbo back in the squad

Thats from the Blue Union facebook page, make of it what you will, but I got a bit of a lob on  :)

Was on twitter too so it must be bullshit

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Billybadger on November 29, 2012, 12:30:03 AM
Any Stream links for tonights game please?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blob on November 29, 2012, 12:41:43 AM
Any Stream links for tonights game please?

should be a few, including -

http://atdhe.so/watch.php?id=518190 (http://atdhe.so/watch.php?id=518190)

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/155865/1/watch-everton-fc-vs-arsenal.html (http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/155865/1/watch-everton-fc-vs-arsenal.html)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 29, 2012, 12:54:09 AM
howard, hibbert, jagielka, distin, baines, gibson, osman, naismith, fellaini, pienaar, jelavic
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 12:55:17 AM
howard, hibbert, jagielka, distin, baines, gibson, osman, naismith, fellaini, pienaar, jelavic

Yay with no Heitinga it shall be a 10-0 stroll
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on November 29, 2012, 12:55:37 AM
Fancy our chances more now with Gibson an hobby back, but Naismith keeps his place over Oviedo?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 12:57:22 AM
Fancy our chances more now with Gibson an hobby back, but Naismith keeps his place over Oviedo?

I suppose 3 goals in his last 3 starts has helped his case
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 12:57:47 AM
Fancy our chances more now with Gibson an hobby back, but Naismith keeps his place over Oviedo?

Scores goals is why he is in (Moyes's words).

Very good team.  More optimistic now!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 01:16:12 AM
Yay with no Heitinga it shall be a 10-0 stroll

Anything less is a disgrace

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: keiko on November 29, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
hibbo!!!!  8)



 COYB
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 01:18:31 AM
Anyone have the bench?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: plumber on November 29, 2012, 01:19:48 AM
Anyone have the bench?

Mucha, Heitinga, Oviedo, Hitzlsperger, Gueye, Barkley, Vellios.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on November 29, 2012, 01:22:43 AM
Anyone know if Mertesecker is starting? I think he's the only one who coul do a job on Fellaini for them.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 01:23:31 AM
Fancy our chances more now with Gibson an hobby back, but Naismith keeps his place over Oviedo?

Lifo

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
Anyone know if Mertesecker is starting? I think he's the only one who coul do a job on Fellaini for them.

He is i think

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 01:25:16 AM
Anyone know if Mertesecker is starting? I think he's the only one who coul do a job on Fellaini for them.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Walcott, Ramsey, Arteta, Wilshere, Cazorla, Giroud. Subs: Mannone, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Coquelin, Jenkinson, Gervinho, Gibbs.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Alanvideo on November 29, 2012, 01:26:17 AM
hibbo!!!!  8)



 COYB

........welcome back Hibbo  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 01:27:03 AM
I actually think Hibbo is genuinely a really important return, especially for a game like this. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 01:27:23 AM
Very happy with that team!  Hoping for Hibbo to fucking smash that cunt Wilshere!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 01:31:49 AM
Fuck only just realized Heitinga has been dropped.

Get.The.Fuck.In

 :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on November 29, 2012, 01:32:38 AM
Cant see us getting beat but nor am l overly confident of beating them.

Gonna go with previous form of the past few weeks. Score draw.

We should definitely be a lot harder to get in behind now though with Hibbert and Gibson back in.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Risky on November 29, 2012, 01:32:52 AM
Got footy training 8-10 tonight, so hoping I come back to a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 01:33:38 AM
Full strength apart from Mirallas in terms of XI

Gibson plays, we don't lose :D
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 01:36:30 AM
Cheers plumber!

Seems there is a renewed sense of optimism on here. If Gibbo plays the whole game I fancy our chances
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 01:38:34 AM
Time is kick off?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sticky on November 29, 2012, 01:40:45 AM
Time is kick off?

7.45
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 01:41:26 AM
7.45

Grim, best finish this wank sharpish then
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: howard1334 on November 29, 2012, 01:43:08 AM
best team we can field outside naismith in for miralles. Looking forward to this
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 01:44:18 AM
Grim, best finish this wank sharpish then

I'd imagine you'll also have time to have a fag and get a beer
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 01:44:52 AM
Goodison atmosphere seems pretty good, at least from the American channel. COYB!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sticky on November 29, 2012, 01:45:55 AM
Hopefully Ossie will hold the X button down longer when shooting tonight,
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 01:46:44 AM
lol fuck this.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Meak on November 29, 2012, 01:46:50 AM
any streams?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 01:46:54 AM
A minute in, and we're a goal down. Lovely.
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Bally on November 29, 2012, 01:47:53 AM
Gonna be a long night
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 01:48:03 AM
1 minute of playing 1 goal. Great job hibbo!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 01:48:19 AM
You could tell as soon as they moved forward they were going to score we were all over the place.  Hibbo looked very tucked in.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 01:48:25 AM
Fucks sake
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2012, 01:48:28 AM
 :eh: Brilliant.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 29, 2012, 01:49:26 AM
we thought the game started at 7.46, fuck sake shite start
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 01:49:39 AM
Was that a deflection?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 01:49:45 AM
Koscielny off injured and Gibbs coming on in place of him.  Verm to CB then I guess... good news I suppose.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on November 29, 2012, 01:49:55 AM
Cushty.

ls that the fastest goal we've conceded in the prem?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 01:50:01 AM
Gibbs on for Koscielny, who hurt himself clearing the ball. Would be much more helpful if we weren't already a goal down.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sticky on November 29, 2012, 01:50:09 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Polledreng on November 29, 2012, 01:50:11 AM
A minute in, and we're a goal down. Lovely.
at least people can't blame Johnny
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: chang on November 29, 2012, 01:51:41 AM
Working well once you get rid of all the adverts and shite

http://www.atdhenet.tv/55917/watch-everton-vs-arsenal (http://www.atdhenet.tv/55917/watch-everton-vs-arsenal)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 01:54:30 AM
Gibson looking way off the pace and naismith his usual self.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 02:02:07 AM
Streams are shite
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:02:08 AM
C'mon lads, lets be putting those headers away now


Sent from my iPad 9 using TimeTravel HD
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: keverton1971 on November 29, 2012, 02:03:02 AM
this ones ok
http://nutjob.eu/njtv1.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtv1.html)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:03:49 AM
Any sopcasts out there?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2012, 02:04:12 AM
We're playing well. Just hope Arsenal don't break.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 02:06:59 AM
We're playing well. Just hope Arsenal don't break.

Felli, pienaar, baines are at any rate.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 02:08:45 AM
When we play, we can really play.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:09:38 AM
Once again we have a ref being a total tit.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:12:09 AM
F'ing Aresenal is just going to kick it around the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 02:12:42 AM
cracking felli!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:12:54 AM
FELLI!!! GET IN!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:12:55 AM
That was all Pienaar who has been brilliant so far! 
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 02:12:59 AM
What a fucking goal!  Fellaini  1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2012, 02:13:04 AM
Cime onn
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 02:13:04 AM
Get the fuck in
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:13:12 AM
GET THE FUCK IN
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 02:13:12 AM
Get in, Fellaini!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sticky on November 29, 2012, 02:13:19 AM
come fuckin on
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 02:13:30 AM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 29, 2012, 02:13:45 AM
That was a great bit of play and a great finish .
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:14:28 AM
Awesome celebration too
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:14:30 AM
We are leading in goal attempts right now 6-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:15:16 AM
Anyone else ready to see Ovideo for Naismith?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 02:15:52 AM
Class finish
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: buededw1 on November 29, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
def has to happen,our left side attacking is unreal the right side is just poor
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2012, 02:16:18 AM
Anyone else ready to see Ovideo for Naismith?

I'm ready to see the back of Naismith, sadly. Hope he can prove me wrong but he just seems like he isn't for this league.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
Piennar pressed and harried really well but Fellaini finish was quality, by far his best position for us up top
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: chang on November 29, 2012, 02:17:16 AM
Lovely goal, well taken, if that was Howard we would all be moaning like fuck!!! I thought Jellys run occupied the keeper?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Polledreng on November 29, 2012, 02:18:48 AM
We are leading in goal attempts right now 6-2
nothing new there
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Polledreng on November 29, 2012, 02:19:39 AM
That was all Pienaar who has been brilliant so far! 
this
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 02:19:48 AM
No luck on streams and what's happened to bitscores ?

Oh well
Get in Felli
Coyb
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ramjam on November 29, 2012, 02:20:09 AM
Spurs 2-0 Liverpool if interested
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:21:02 AM
The co commentator seems to be saying the exact opposite of whatever Im seeing lol.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 02:21:57 AM
Naismith is piss poor really.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:21:57 AM
Jelavic is having a stinker so far, shame because the rest of the team have really picked up.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:23:52 AM
We are asking Jelavic to be an AJ sort of striker at the moment, when he is a Lineker type player.  Play to his strengths and he might start getting some goals.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: cantoffee on November 29, 2012, 02:25:11 AM
Got to hit the target there, he`s looking good today though and that was a nice flick.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 02:25:50 AM
Great skill but snatched at it like a striker out of form
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 02:26:23 AM
Jelavic seems like he is waking up.

Nice move, shame about the finish.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:27:48 AM
Yeah good last ten minutes from him, he's working a thankless task at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 02:29:11 AM
Why the fuck I didn't he leave it?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: cantoffee on November 29, 2012, 02:30:01 AM
Christ Baines was through on his own.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 02:30:10 AM
Instinctive latching on to that ball from Jelavic. Baines was probably getting there, sadly.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ramjam on November 29, 2012, 02:30:55 AM
Swansea 3-0 WBA
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 02:31:04 AM
Osman looking good going forward but such a bad defender.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:31:50 AM
That ball was flying from Baines, reckon it would have run thru to the keeper
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on November 29, 2012, 02:34:03 AM
That ball was flying from Baines, reckon it would have run thru to the keeper

Agreed, and Jelavic wasn't as offside as I thought he was. Only a yard in it so he might have thought that he was on.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: true1891blue on November 29, 2012, 02:34:37 AM
streams are so bad tonight
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:35:03 AM
We really grew into that half after yet another mad start.  If we continue pressing their midfield like we started too we have a good chance.  Jelavic got better as the game wore on, Pienaar, Fellaini and Baines obvious standouts.  Wouldn't change much second half because you can't switch Pienaar when he and Baines are playing this well.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:35:12 AM
Ive tried to really give lots of benefit to him, but I have to succumb to the general feeling on here that Naismith is very, very badly shit.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 02:36:40 AM
Only seen 10 mins cos of how grim the streams are

Naismith is shite  :)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ramjam on November 29, 2012, 02:37:11 AM
Any one be happy with a point at this stage?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 02:37:36 AM
Hopefully we play better on the second half than we have last few games.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: taffytoffee on November 29, 2012, 02:38:31 AM
streams are so bad tonight

streams are so bad tonight

streams are so bad tonight

so is Naismith
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:39:40 AM
Any one be happy with a point at this stage?

Nope. Want all three. Against the form of this Arsenal team, at home, 3 points is what we should be hitting for.

However it being Arsenal means we will lose.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:39:54 AM
Any one be happy with a point at this stage?

No we are better than them we just need to prove it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 02:43:42 AM
Any fucking streams?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:43:45 AM
Hopefully we play better on the second half than we have last few games.

Moyes has been out managed (in terms of halftime adjustments) in quite a few games this season. Teams make adjustments to what we are doing and unfortunately we do so well in the first half we have nothing to correct typically.

Hopefully we will see Oviedo for Naismith which should help make us have a more even two sided attack.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 02:44:07 AM
It's great to see Pienaar looking like himself again. I wonder if Oviedo can play RW though, as that side of things isn't looking very sharp. Jelavic starting to look himself but at the same time often very flat footed, he seems a tad off the pace.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 02:45:37 AM
Any fucking streams?

http://realtvsport.com/channel-5.php (http://realtvsport.com/channel-5.php)

Put it on full screen and you will have no probs, not a great picture though.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Vespa on November 29, 2012, 02:45:48 AM
http://www.atdhenet.tv/55917/watch-everton-vs-arsenal (http://www.atdhenet.tv/55917/watch-everton-vs-arsenal)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 02:47:02 AM
Any fucking streams?
found a stream on justin tv in the end - its on my mobile though so no link
far from hd but much better than anything else ive tried
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:47:26 AM
Any fucking streams?

Goto Wiziwig and select the socsports one. Working perfectly for me.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 02:49:19 AM
Must be my computer
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Polledreng on November 29, 2012, 02:50:17 AM
It's great to see Pienaar looking like himself again. I wonder if Oviedo can play RW though, as that side of things isn't looking very sharp. Jelavic starting to look himself but at the same time often very flat footed, he seems a tad off the pace.
he has never played there before - but he can't do worse than Naismith. Afraid Gibson ends up getting send off if he is not subbed
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:51:12 AM
Worried about Gibson too.  1 more languid tackle and hes off.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 02:52:20 AM
Surprise surprise.....Peanuts can't finish.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:53:12 AM
Grow your hair back Steven
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 02:55:04 AM
How's he offside receiving the ball in our half?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 02:55:47 AM
Maybe when the ball was kicked he was in theirs
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:03:45 AM
Naismith is starting to make Hibbert look like Cafu
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 29, 2012, 03:03:56 AM
Distin ............ great muzzy .
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 03:04:36 AM
need to make this pressure pay
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:05:18 AM
Need to get Naismith off, he looks knackered already once again.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 03:05:19 AM
Naismith is the worst player on the park
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:05:57 AM
Like the look of this
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:06:04 AM
Oh and looky, Oviedo is coming on for Naismith.  Loads of fucking pace now!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Fatboyquim on November 29, 2012, 03:06:04 AM
I hope Naismith sees the game out
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:06:10 AM
Looks like some of our players are avoiding putting one through to Jela like the plague (no offense intended to those who were alive in the dark ages)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:06:28 AM
Good sub
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:07:41 AM
Well that's a penalty.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:07:43 AM
How the fuck
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:07:49 AM
I love you Arteta....but that was a pen
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 03:08:11 AM
We will need a death certificate to get a penalty
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 03:08:24 AM
Hey, look. A penalty that wasn't given.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:08:49 AM
Typical Everton right now....Creating loads of chances but struggling with finishing
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Goughie on November 29, 2012, 03:09:03 AM
Good sub that! Naismith has beem really bad again tonight. Cam see Jela scoring tonight.

COYB
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:09:28 AM
What the fuck, and now he gives a freekick for that!?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:10:08 AM
Joke refs
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Bally on November 29, 2012, 03:10:16 AM
How the fuck that wasn't a pen is fucking beyond me how many is that in the last few games
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
how was that not a pen ffs
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:11:45 AM
Especially as the same tackle twice draws a foul when we do it, and one was yellow card worthy ffs
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:13:32 AM
Fuck this ref.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 29, 2012, 03:14:10 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Hitzlsperger for Gibson before too long. Or perhaps Vellios instead, with Fellaini dropping back.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:14:45 AM
Fuck off ref
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:16:10 AM
Need the win here - while results are going our way.

COYBB !!!!

EDIT 2-1 Spurs now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: ollieefc1878 on November 29, 2012, 03:16:34 AM
This ref is awful no consistency and the decisions are so one sided
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 03:16:58 AM
Is fellaini paid for each time he passes to a red shirt?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:17:33 AM
Did well Gibson
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:18:29 AM
Seems we have lost our opportunity to go for the win. Look more content to sit back and counter.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 29, 2012, 03:20:10 AM
We are starting to tire and they are getting more time and space in our half . Barkley would offer dome attacking outlet as Jelavic looks out on his feet .
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: chang on November 29, 2012, 03:20:46 AM
Seems we have lost our opportunity to go for the win. Look more content to sit back and counter.

15 to go...keep the faith!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Goughie on November 29, 2012, 03:21:26 AM
Im desperate to see a proper Hammer shot!!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:21:43 AM
Arsenal have done as little as I think I've ever seen them in a game, we need to take advantage.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:22:05 AM
Im desperate to see a proper Hammer shot!!

He's a typical toffee hammer now
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: charlatan on November 29, 2012, 03:25:07 AM
Our set pieces are woeful again
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:25:30 AM
Gervinho well offside there as well.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:25:54 AM
Should go for it now with Vellios & Felli, Jela's had it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:26:12 AM
Definitely don't look as good of a team without Gibbo.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:27:56 AM
What the fuck is Jagielka doing?!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:28:17 AM
Baines is gassed.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:29:25 AM
Awful by Fellaini
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:29:46 AM
I'm all for subbing in Vellios and going 4-4-2 for the final 7-8min
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
Come on Moyes VELLIOS !
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:30:28 AM
And Hitz has officially hammered one into the 30th row
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:30:49 AM
Theres your hammer
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:31:26 AM
As much as I hate the long ball I think that it is our best chance to create a 2nd in this game
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Goughie on November 29, 2012, 03:32:19 AM
Hmmm, not the hammer I had in mind!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:32:30 AM
We are looking isolated up front
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:33:23 AM
Pienaar's decision making! Fucking hell!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:33:37 AM
Vellios...Vellios.....Vellios ....Vellios
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 03:34:02 AM
Getting sick of draws
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:34:07 AM
Great cross across goal there. Needed 1 of 2 to make a run into the danger area.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:34:25 AM
Pienaar's decision making! Fucking hell!
I thought he was going to lay that off to the middle....Had either Ossie or Hitz wide open (couldn't see due to the quality of stream)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:35:01 AM
Why no Vellios til so late.. ridiculous.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:35:58 AM
Ohhhhh... Thought we had it
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: keiko on November 29, 2012, 03:36:03 AM
osman has played very well. man of the match
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:36:25 AM
Oh fuck me, how have we not scored?!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:36:47 AM
Last chance saloon. 30s...
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:37:11 AM
BBC Sport Chief Football Writer Phil McNulty at Goodison Park:

"Jelavic has put in two superb crosses for Everton - pity he can't get on the end of his own delivery. No-one there."
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:37:49 AM
Wow. And there's the Pienaar we have all come to be frustrated with this season...A nice pass out of bounds to end the game
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2012, 03:38:15 AM
Another 2 points got away.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: sharpattack on November 29, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
One win in eight
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Bally on November 29, 2012, 03:38:54 AM
Bollocks could have win that
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
2 Pts dropped here.  Not often I say that after playing Arsenal.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blob on November 29, 2012, 03:39:08 AM
given the start, should be happy with the draw, but we had the better chances to put that one away.

disappointed in the end :(
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 03:39:29 AM
One loss in eight
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on November 29, 2012, 03:39:49 AM
By the sounds of it, someone soon is going to get an absolute creaming off us.

Im getting fucking sick of waiting though.

Imagine Defoe on the end of the dozen or so chances we create every game..................
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:40:14 AM
This game represents the story of our season. Out class the other teams yet we cannot score on the chances we create causing us to drop points we should not.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: dunkster on November 29, 2012, 03:40:45 AM
come back super kev!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:40:49 AM
Another frustrating night but stuff to build on, despite the silly goal we looked far more solid with Gibbo and Hibbo there. Jelavic despite being off form still looks dangerous and we still have Mirallas to come back. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Zoolander on November 29, 2012, 03:40:59 AM
Should have won again and drew.
Had enough chances.
Can't believe we didn't get that pen either, ref was a complete mark hughes.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: dunkster on November 29, 2012, 03:41:24 AM
good to see gibbo back seemed to give ossie a lot more confidence as well.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: ollieefc1878 on November 29, 2012, 03:41:32 AM
I think pienaar needs a kick up the arse and dropping for a game and maybe coming off the bench, we need 3 points tonight, now we need personally to beat city and spurs
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:41:40 AM
Some positives to take from that. Pienaar looking better, Oviedo can play on the right if needed, Gibsons and Hibbert are back, and Howard had a decent game.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: chang on November 29, 2012, 03:42:13 AM
Know what you mean.......more points if you win a few and lose a couple?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:42:20 AM
Watching these highlights is so frustrating. All of them are chances we created excluding the one Arsenal goal highlight.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:42:52 AM
Some positives to take from that. Pienaar looking better, Oviedo can play on the right if needed, Gibsons and Hibbert are back, and Howard had a decent game.

Not sure Oviedo can play on the right, he looked lost out there.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 03:43:29 AM
Another frustrating night but stuff to build on, despite the silly goal we looked far more solid with Gibbo and Hibbo there. Jelavic despite being off form still looks dangerous and we still have Mirallas to come back. 

Yeah the way hibbert stood off everyone for the goal and for walcott's cross that giroud headed inches wide has been sorely missing  :P
Oh and Pienaar was a million times better than osman. Don't know what people are smoking.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 03:43:47 AM
we drew against our bogey team, that's fine with me and hopefully 4 points at least from the next two.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 03:43:52 AM
I think pienaar needs a kick up the arse and dropping for a game and maybe coming off the bench, we need 3 points tonight, now we need personally to beat city and spurs

I thought Pienaar was a lot better in this game, certainly first half and could've got a penalty.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Polledreng on November 29, 2012, 03:44:04 AM
Not sure Oviedo can play on the right, he looked lost out there.
agree
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 29, 2012, 03:44:57 AM
Not sure Oviedo can play on the right, he looked lost out there.
agree not nearly as good as on Saturday

given no respect by the official all game long

need Mirallas back, would have been a different game by miles
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:45:00 AM
Amazing how we manage to go the full 90 minutes against 'bigger' teams. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: pjk on November 29, 2012, 03:45:16 AM
We should of won again. They were there for the taking and 52 seconds to concede is ridiculous. Another stonewall penalty not given.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:45:24 AM
Hibbo played well Minty
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 03:45:38 AM
Not sure Oviedo can play on the right, he looked lost out there.

And Naismith didnt, he's by far a better bet than Naismith

Anyway decent point, Leon Osman is a magical footballer
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 03:46:09 AM
I think pienaar needs a kick up the arse and dropping for a game and maybe coming off the bench, we need 3 points tonight, now we need personally to beat city and spurs

I actually thought he was much improved tonight. His hard work helped get us our goal and he did well
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:46:12 AM
Yeah the way hibbert stood off everyone for the goal and for walcott's cross that giroud headed inches wide has been sorely missing  :P
Oh and Pienaar was a million times better than osman. Don't know what people are smoking.

I know you are being your usual reliable self but Hibbo had a very good game defensively as he always does, not perfect like but strong.  Pienaar definitely played better than Osman though who had a very mixed performance.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 03:46:21 AM
I think there were a lot of positives from that game. We looked more like ourselves again, after the subs started coming on I thought things fell apart a bit but it was understandable given Gibson's fitness.

After a wonky start we took the game to them but both sides could've nicked it in the second.

Oviedo looked totally lost of the right though. Let's hope Mirallas is back soon.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 29, 2012, 03:46:41 AM
I actually thought he was much improved tonight. His hard work helped get us our goal and he did well
this deserved the pen aswell
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 03:47:40 AM
And Naismith didnt, he's by far a better bet than Naismith

Anyway decent point, Leon Osman is a magical footballer

lol'd just about to post the same... Oviedo or Naismith at RM... not exactly a hard decision.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 03:47:51 AM
Not sure Oviedo can play on the right, he looked lost out there.

Not what I saw, in the 25 mins of him being on the pitch he was a lot more fluid than Naismith, offering better cover and more of an offensive threat. Considering its only his 4th-5th appearance and he is out of position I would say he did quite well.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:49:10 AM
And Naismith didnt, he's by far a better bet than Naismith

Anyway decent point, Leon Osman is a magical footballer

No Naismith did as well, Mirallas should be first choice, Coleman second and even Osman would be third for me.  Both Naismith and Oviedo would be last resorts for me (and arguably they are)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 03:49:25 AM
I'd hope Moyes would look at Barkley out on the right in training if Mirallas isn't back soon. Neither Naismith or Oviedo look overly comfortable there.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 03:49:48 AM
I know you are being your usual reliable self but Hibbo had a very good game defensively as he always does, not perfect like but strong.  Pienaar definitely played better than Osman though who had a very mixed performance.

Ok so arsenal's goal and next closest chance come through his side and he had a very good defensive game. If that had been coleman we wouldn't hear the end of it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:50:39 AM
Not what I saw, in the 25 mins of him being on the pitch he was a lot more fluid than Naismith, offering better cover and more of an offensive threat. Considering its only his 4th-5th appearance and he is out of position I would say he did quite well.

I'm more on board with this then saying he looked lost. I thought at times Arsenal swarmed him (rightfully so as he is new to the league) but he did well tracking back and keeping possession when Naismith had been just booting it away.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: dazfrancis on November 29, 2012, 03:52:16 AM
I'm more on board with this then saying he looked lost. I thought at times Arsenal swarmed him (rightfully so as he is new to the league) but he did well tracking back and keeping possession when Naismith had been just booting it away.

Ye I thought Oviedo did alright. Naismith is too prone to basic errors at this level.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 29, 2012, 03:52:24 AM
Ok so arsenal's goal and next closest chance come through his side and he had a very good defensive game. If that had been coleman we wouldn't hear the end of it.

He wasn't at fault for the goal, he made several excellent interceptions and blocks.  He served the only meaningful crosses that came from the right side.

How you think this equates to a guy who defends like a fucktard escapes me.


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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 29, 2012, 03:53:06 AM
looked a lot more solid with hibbert back, pienaar had his best game in a long time but still not as good as we're used to, osman magical, gibson added something, fellaini the main man, baines was unbelievable first half, and jags and distin were very good, but howard to me is not confident and very shakey
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 03:54:19 AM
Heitinga should be 3rd choice from now on, Distin was a colossal player tonight  
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 03:54:57 AM
Howard was fine tonight.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 03:55:10 AM
Overall I was pleased with that performance. You can see the difference with Gibson there, we just seem more settled. Fellaini and Baines excellent as usual. Pienaar much improved, cant wait for Mirallas to return
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 03:55:32 AM
Baines is gassed.

Unfortunately when I said this I didn't realize it was b/c Baines was tired. This was when Bainesy tweaked his hamstring. FFS.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:56:05 AM
He wasn't at fault for the goal, he made several excellent interceptions and blocks.  He served the only meaningful crosses that came from the right side.

How you think this equates to a guy who defends like a fucktard escapes me.


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Yep that's the size of it, he consistently made good tackles and interceptions throughout, he also provided several good crosses and a good ball for Fellaini.  Like I said he wasn't perfect with a fair few wayward passes but we looked more solid with him in there.

This isn't to say I am writing Coleman off but I don't think it's coincidental we looked better at the back with Hibbert in and Gibson in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 03:56:29 AM
Howard was fine tonight.

He wasnt
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:57:29 AM
He wasnt

He was, had a strong and largely commanding game.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 03:57:50 AM
He wasnt

Name me one mistake.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 29, 2012, 03:58:32 AM
to me playing two attacking full backs only works when you have a solid midfielder in front, until then it should be baines with hibbert dropping in to make it 3 at the back, when gibson regains full fitness no reason not to start coleman, but howard near let a pass roll into the corner and to me looks very un confident
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 03:59:06 AM
Heitinga should be 3rd choice from now on, Distin was a colossal player tonight   

Ha that's laughable from one game but he should retain his place for the next game for sure.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 03:59:13 AM
Yep that's the size of it, he consistently made good tackles and interceptions throughout, he also provided several good crosses and a good ball for Fellaini.  Like I said he wasn't perfect with a fair few wayward passes but we looked more solid with him in there.

This isn't to say I am writing Coleman off but I don't think it's coincidental we looked better at the back with Hibbert in and Gibson in midfield.

We looked better because heitinga wasn't playing. Jags and Distin were great, hibbert was average at best. He tries his best but he's very slow and offers very little going forward.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 03:59:39 AM
He was, had a strong and largely commanding game.

He never, any time the ball was played between him and the centre backs there was a lot of confusion, his kicking was grim, and he nearly let in a pea roller
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:00:20 AM
Ha that's laughable from one game but he should retain his place for the next game for sure.

From one game? Its from 3 years of watching both him and Heitinga
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:00:33 AM
Overall I was pleased with that performance. You can see the difference with Gibson there, we just seem more settled. Fellaini and Baines excellent as usual. Pienaar much improved, cant wait for Mirallas to return

That's exactly what i just said

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 04:02:17 AM
Shows how we all see the game different, that pass across goal could and should have been sorted by the defence, he saw the danger last minute and made the save.

Is Jagielka not the Captain anyhow?  Should he not be organising the defence and whatnot?  Not deflecting anything and I thought Jags was very good tonight but any confusion in defence isn't down to the goalkeeper who came and cleared up a lot.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 04:02:47 AM
He wasnt

Stop trying to be contrary it's boring.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 04:03:47 AM
Overall I was pleased with that performance. You can see the difference with Gibson there, we just seem more settled. Fellaini and Baines excellent as usual. Pienaar much improved, cant wait for Mirallas to return

i thought fellaini was rubbish in the second half after being best player in the first.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 04:04:19 AM
We looked better because heitinga wasn't playing. Jags and Distin were great, hibbert was average at best. He tries his best but he's very slow and offers very little going forward.

Think it is a stretch to say "we looked better BECAUSE heitinga wasn't playing."

Howard played well and came out for the ball on crosses. Gibson solidified midfield. Hibbo provided more defense on the right side. Think it was a team effort my friend.
Title: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:04:33 AM
Our passing was poor tonight yet we still created some good chances through passing moves.

Oviedo and hitzelsperger both struggled once on. Strange game again.... Coulda shoulda won

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Goughie on November 29, 2012, 04:06:35 AM
Id like to see Oviedo start on the right next week if Mirallas is still out. He's much stronger than Naismith and very tidy in possession. He also has better devensive instinct when needed; as he's also a left back.

Im not one for slagging our players off, but Naismith has been poor the last few matches. Im starting to doubt if he can cut it in the EPL.

Some performance to build on by our big players tonight. Bring on City and Spurs!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2012, 04:06:42 AM
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Everton manager David Moyes: "It was a good game because we played well and Arsenal played well too. It was a really tight game and two good teams were playing. When we went down a goal after 50 seconds our players showed great character and we missed some great chances to win it. But we always knew Arsenal were a threat. I think we deserved to get the victory but we have struggled to get that second goal in recent weeks. I thought we had a really good shout for a penalty kick on Steven Pienaar. It was a night when few decisions went our way. We didn't get many things, but the most important thing was Everton played well and Arsenal played well and it was a really good game. Leighton Baines has got a bit of a hamstring strain which is a blow to us."
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:08:10 AM
Id like to see Oviedo start on the right next week if Mirallas is still out. He's much stronger than Naismith and very tidy in possession. He also has better devensive instinct when needed; as he's also a left back.

Im not one for slagging our players off, but Naismith has been poor the last few matches. Im starting to doubt if he can cut it in the EPL.

Some performance to build on by our big players tonight. Bring on City and Spurs!

He was awful tonight.

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: dekko on November 29, 2012, 04:08:19 AM
Team played much better defensively today, was just a coincidence that Gibson was also playing?
Some great stuff attacking, we just lacked a little bit more of class to win the game.
I also thought Naismith had a poor game, if only Mirallas was playing.
Title: Re: RE: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 04:08:40 AM
Oviedo will be left back by looks next game anyway

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:09:01 AM
Shows how we all see the game different, that pass across goal could and should have been sorted by the defence, he saw the danger last minute and made the save.

Is Jagielka not the Captain anyhow?  Should he not be organising the defence and whatnot?  Not deflecting anything and I thought Jags was very good tonight but any confusion in defence isn't down to the goalkeeper who came and cleared up a lot.

You watch that chance, he's to flat footed and not on his toes anticipating any kind of shot, it was very poor keeping, and defending. Saving an absolute pea roller shouldent warrant any praise.

The defense just dosent seem confident in him anymore.

I think he was far from fine tonight, and looked more shaky than Ive seen in previous games.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 04:10:16 AM
From one game? Its from 3 years of watching both him and Heitinga

Heitinga has often played well in 3 years, in fact he won player of the season for us last year, and has been a pivotal part of the side in each of our good runs while he has been here

For now distin and jags should be first choice as they did well tonight. Heitinga will have his chance again this season, and im sure he will do well

Your criticism of him is starting to rival that of sharpattack towards osman. I know you dont want to be that guy
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
You watch that chance, he's to flat footed and not on his toes anticipating any kind of shot, it was very poor keeping, and defending. Saving an absolute pea roller shouldent warrant any praise.

The defense just dosent seem confident in him anymore.

I think he was far from fine tonight, and looked more shaky than Ive seen in previous games.

It wasn't a shot and there were many options For him to take on.

He did well today

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:11:54 AM
Heitinga has often played well in 3 years, in fact he won player of the season for us last year, and has been a pivotal part of the side in each of our good runs while he has been here

For now distin and jags should be first choice as they did well tonight. Heitinga will have his chance again this season, and im sure he will do well

Your criticism of him is starting to rival that of sharpattack towards osman. I know you dont want to be that guy

Why do people even say this?

Is it really that bad to say Distin is a better defender than him?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: cantoffee on November 29, 2012, 04:12:41 AM
You watch that chance, he's to flat footed and not on his toes anticipating any kind of shot, it was very poor keeping, and defending. Saving an absolute pea roller shouldent warrant any praise.

The defense just dosent seem confident in him anymore.

I think he was far from fine tonight, and looked more shaky than Ive seen in previous games.

You think he`s shaky every game.

Every game you bang on about how you`ve been proven right, as usual because so and so played well or played poorly. You are as bad as anyone when it comes to being blinkered in regards to a few specific players.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 04:14:27 AM
Why do people even say this?

Is it really that bad to say Distin is a better defender than him?

It is starting to get constant though and you did start a thread calling him John "dogshit Heitinga"

Just a heads up people are calling you Ramattack  ;)
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 04:15:13 AM
You watch that chance, he's to flat footed and not on his toes anticipating any kind of shot, it was very poor keeping, and defending. Saving an absolute pea roller shouldent warrant any praise.

The defense just dosent seem confident in him anymore.

I think he was far from fine tonight, and looked more shaky than Ive seen in previous games.

The ball should never have come close to him, when it did his reactions where what you would and should expect. Nothing more or less.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 04:15:39 AM
Think it is a stretch to say "we looked better BECAUSE heitinga wasn't playing."

Howard played well and came out for the ball on crosses. Gibson solidified midfield. Hibbo provided more defense on the right side. Think it was a team effort my friend.

Nice of you to stick up for your countryman but you sure don't expect much from gks do you? Howard had very little to do and what he did have to do he struggled with. He seems to have gone back to punching balls easy to catch. It's not like we won the game and we've been dominating most games this season so why is it that we need to suddenly give everyone huge credit and say we improved?

There a few players in the team who deserve champions league football and others that are holding them and the team back. Pity we don't have the money to replace them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: EFCdanger on November 29, 2012, 04:17:31 AM
Jelavic played with illness and Baines a doubt for Saturday. Would be nice if Mirallas is back but i'm not hopeful.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:17:54 AM
You think he`s shaky every game.

Every game you bang on about how you`ve been proven right, as usual because so and so played well or played poorly. You are as bad as anyone when it comes to being blinkered in regards to a few specific players.

Im not blinkered one bit, Im not gonna praise a keeper for making a meal out of what should of been a simple save
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:18:05 AM
thought either side could have nicked it in the end, but Arsenal clearly haven't been watching us this season and sat off for the last five minutes which made it easier on us

some good signs but need to finish chances

Exactly
Jelavic cross late on with noone in the box was annoying

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueski on November 29, 2012, 04:25:54 AM
Fellaini doing a perfect impression of Steven Naismith just before that was even more so!
Naismith did a better impression of naismith before the break though
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:29:52 AM
Fellaini doing a perfect impression of Steven Naismith just before that was even more so!

I think had naismith been on he would have at least been in there

For me tonight we missed Mirallas

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 04:31:16 AM

For me tonight we missed Mirallas

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we've said that every game lolol
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 04:31:52 AM
I think had naismith been on he would have at least been in there

For me tonight we missed Mirallas

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We certainly missed someone who naturally can play on the right, Coleman would have been a decent option too.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:35:49 AM
we've said that every game lolol

Tonight against a good side it was really obvious

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:36:52 AM
We certainly missed someone who naturally can play on the right, Coleman would have been a decent option too.

I know Oviedo did ok sat but i thought it was a poor substitution

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 04:37:57 AM
I know Oviedo did ok sat but i thought it was a poor substitution

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Not a poor one for me as Naismith wasn't doing great but it didn't work clearly.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:39:07 AM
Not a poor one for me as Naismith wasn't doing great but it didn't work clearly.

Just thought maybe someone else could have come on for naismith who i agree was struggling

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:40:20 AM
Just thought maybe someone else could have come on for naismith who i agree was struggling

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Who?

Dont say Barkley, do not say Barkley
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 04:41:34 AM
Nice of you to stick up for your countryman but you sure don't expect much from gks do you? Howard had very little to do and what he did have to do he struggled with. He seems to have gone back to punching balls easy to catch. It's not like we won the game and we've been dominating most games this season so why is it that we need to suddenly give everyone huge credit and say we improved?

There a few players in the team who deserve champions league football and others that are holding them and the team back. Pity we don't have the money to replace them.

Haha yes b/c that is the only reason I am sticking up for Howard. If he was anything but American I would hate him!!!

On a real note you hate Howard and nothing I can ever say will change that so it isn't really worth discussing.

I am however giving huge credit to players that have returned from injury. Since we have not been playing with them for awhile I would say it is a fair statement to say we have improved.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
who?

Oviedo picked up a booking (a nothing one at that) early on and essentially had his hands tied after that

he's also not a right winger....so perhaps switching Pienaar over might have helped a bit too

Yeah maybe switching him would have helped

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 04:42:19 AM
In case some of you did not know Jelavic apparently was playing while ill. Props to him for his good performance.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:42:25 AM
Who?

Dont say Barkley, do not say Barkley

Ask yourself why not?

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 04:45:50 AM
Ask yourself why not?

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He aint no winger, and is still very raw and shouldent come on unless were loosing.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:46:50 AM
He aint no winger, and is still very raw and shouldent come on unless were loosing.

Losing

Also Oviedo is very raw... Ain't no winger... Has no right foot

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2012, 04:50:09 AM
Losing

Also Oviedo is very raw... Ain't no winger... Has no right foot

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You could say Pienaar ain't no winger and has no left foot though! :evil:
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 04:50:27 AM
Haha yes b/c that is the only reason I am sticking up for Howard. If he was anything but American I would hate him!!!

On a real note you hate Howard and nothing I can ever say will change that so it isn't really worth discussing.

I am however giving huge credit to players that have returned from injury. Since we have not been playing with them for awhile I would say it is a fair statement to say we have improved.

I don't hate Howard i just get very annoyed by people who give their favourite players huge credit for doing simple things and seem to think that makes up for the glaring mistakes they make. Howard's been rubbish this season but If there weren't a few people who unbelievably keep disagreeing I wouldn't harp on about it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 04:51:28 AM
You could say Pienaar ain't no winger and has no left foot though! :evil:

You could but he is proven

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2012, 04:52:23 AM
I don't hate Howard i just get very annoyed by people who give their favourite players huge credit for doing simple things and seem to think that makes up for the glaring mistakes they make. Howard's been rubbish this season but If there weren't a few people who unbelievably keep disagreeing I wouldn't harp on about it.

The vast majority of people agree Howard has been shit this season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 04:52:58 AM
He aint no winger, and is still very raw and shouldent come on unless were loosing.

That's a bit silly considering we're ok playing a LB there. And how does it help him to only come on if we are losing?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 04:54:07 AM
I don't hate Howard i just get very annoyed by people who give their favourite players huge credit for doing simple things and seem to think that makes up for the glaring mistakes they make. Howard's been rubbish this season but If there weren't a few people who unbelievably keep disagreeing I wouldn't harp on about it.

Howard isn't my favorite player (not saying you were accusing me of it) but I do not think he is the sole person to blame for a lot of the goals. Yes he has his flappers, but he has relatively equal amount of stops he makes that most keepers won't.

This isn't his best season. I concede that. However, I think that even though we could buy a better keeper we should put those funds into other areas.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 04:55:56 AM
He aint no winger, and is still very raw and shouldent come on unless were loosing.

Since Jimmywhack started it I feel compelled to finish it....

Technically by saying "He aint no winger" you are saying "He is a winger" due to the double negatives.

I am sorry for what I just typed. I am ashamed and a grammar Nazi.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2012, 04:56:55 AM
He aint no winger, and is still very raw and shouldent come on unless were loosing.

That's a bit silly considering we're ok playing a LB there. And how does it help him to only come on if we are losing?
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 05:06:21 AM
That's a bit silly considering we're ok playing a LB there. And how does it help him to only come on if we are losing?

But at least he's a winger in some sense, can we really trust Barkley to keep the ball for us? He should only come on when were losing and in need of something a bit special which he can produce, other than that he's gonna have to be cover for us until we probably send him back on loan.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: minty on November 29, 2012, 05:13:09 AM
Howard isn't my favorite player (not saying you were accusing me of it) but I do not think he is the sole person to blame for a lot of the goals. Yes he has his flappers, but he has relatively equal amount of stops he makes that most keepers won't.

This isn't his best season. I concede that. However, I think that even though we could buy a better keeper we should put those funds into other areas.

I totally disagree. He's made very few saves other keepers wouldn't. Coleman has made mistakes, heitinga has been rubbish and neville and osman have not been a solid midfield combo but this doesn't change the fact that Howard has been awful. Worst keeper in the league this season for me. As I've said before any other keeper at any other team would've been dropped.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: howard1334 on November 29, 2012, 05:46:31 AM
looked a lot more solid with hibbert back, pienaar had his best game in a long time but still not as good as we're used to, osman magical, gibson added something, fellaini the main man, baines was unbelievable first half, and jags and distin were very good, but howard to me is not confident and very shakey

While I agree this has been the case in many of the more recent games, I thought howard was solid today.
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Azz on November 29, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
What a line that was.  "Can't spend, won't spend."  lolol
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on November 29, 2012, 06:11:09 AM
What a line that was.  "Can't spend, won't spend."  lolol

Pmsl at that too!
Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 08:12:55 AM
Worst keeper in the league this season for me.

Completely laughable.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: BrotherEstapol on November 29, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
Completely laughable.
Agree. Some fucking ridiculous shouts here.

Need a scapegoat I guess.

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Title: Re: Everton vs Arsenal
Post by: McMoyes on November 29, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
Great performance but I cant believe how frustrating it is being a blue this season.

I HATE DRAWS!!