But he's also brought terrible lows. Fast Lane's post is spot in. I've said a number of times that with the financial resources we have at the moment the FA Cup Final was as far as were going to get. Even though however I don't agree with Rimbo and other posters that Moyes should go, I understand their frustrations. Every season is the same. Why is it always a slow start? Why is it that we always have to take a tonking off a team? Why is it that were so unsuccessful without Neville in the team? Why are we so dependent on Cahill and playing 4-5-1? Mike Walker was a joke of a manager, but put him aside, how many times under less successful managers that Moyes have we been beaten and I mean well and truly beaten conceding 3, 4, 5 and maybe more goals? Since Moyes has been here I can think of at least one game per season when we've conceded these kinds of results. That's fucking embarrasing. Why does no one else have these problems? Moyes has been in charge nearly 9 years, the only managers who have been at the helm of EPL Clubs longer are Sir Alex and Wenger. How often have these teams conceded these kind of results? Even when SAF took over United who were probably in as bad a shape as we were when Moyes took over. I used to think that Moyes had a positive mentality, but over the years I know he doesn't. Sure he has turned attitudes around from when Smith was in charge happy to draw every game. The difference between us and other teams I feel is that we don't have a winning mentality in the team. Neville is the only one for me who has this, and it was probably engrained in him from his early days at United. Look at both United and Arsenal now, both have teams that, compared to previous teams they've had in the league, are pretty poor. But they're still pushing at the top of the league. I think given the time, Moyes will turn this season around. I think he has earned our trust. Given the money, I believe he can turn us into a consistent CL team as well. He still has a lot of learning as a manager though, and I think it's safe to say, he'll never be a Ferguson or a Wenger.