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Title: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 04, 2017, 09:18:34 PM
Everton playing football, on a Saturday, at 3pm

Be a real struggle this imo. Kane's found a bit of form for England, apparently he never scores in August anyway. Spurs are a well oiled, hard working and strong pressing side

Think a draw would be decent

Pickford
Martina Keane Jagielka Baines
Davies Schneiderlin Gueye
Rooney DCL Sigurdsson
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Lxxx on September 04, 2017, 09:26:35 PM
Must not lose game to stop the doom-mongers running amok.

We just need to be in a position where we're not too far behind the top 6 after the Man U game to keep spirits and confidence up for when the season can really start for us. 
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: KevtheRat on September 04, 2017, 09:32:08 PM
I'd turn up a week earlier than the 16th if you want to watch this one @Jimmywhack (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329)
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 04, 2017, 10:04:57 PM
I'd turn up a week earlier than the 16th if you want to watch this one @Jimmywhack (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329)
Ha fucking hell
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: brap2 on September 04, 2017, 10:05:55 PM
Getting turned over aren't we.
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 04, 2017, 10:14:16 PM
'And it's a dream start for Fernando Llorente'
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: sam of the south on September 04, 2017, 10:16:33 PM
We'll win 2-0.

Sandro and DCL.



                           Pickford
          Holgate Keane Williams Baines
                     Gana Schneiderlin
                         Sigurdsson
                   Sandro DCL Rooney
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Lxxx on September 04, 2017, 10:21:30 PM
Wouldn't it be great if we flew out of the blocks from the kick off, instead of raising our game after the break when we're already 2-0 down.
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Macca77 on September 04, 2017, 10:22:15 PM
Home win
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: formerKHL on September 04, 2017, 10:28:18 PM

Everton playing football, on a Saturday, at 3pm....

I think you're lying...haha
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: sam of the south on September 04, 2017, 10:28:58 PM
'And it's a dream start for Fernando Llorente'

Ugh.

Yep.

😔
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 04, 2017, 10:30:46 PM
'And it's a dream start for Fernando Llorente'

Maybe he's been dreaming of scoring an own goal on his debut :D

Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: bogie on September 04, 2017, 10:38:16 PM
will Rooney play ?
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 04, 2017, 10:43:47 PM
Only gone and done be a @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) there @Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329)
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: gizzblue on September 04, 2017, 10:52:09 PM
Must not lose game to stop the doom-mongers running amok.

We just need to be in a position where we're not too far behind the top 6 after the Man U game to keep spirits and confidence up for when the season can really start for us.
Aside and excusing the neg head regulars .😅
Naturally
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 04, 2017, 10:54:25 PM
Can't change the date on this bastard phone either
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Macca77 on September 04, 2017, 11:00:43 PM
What a bunch of negative nellies you lot are
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: gizzblue on September 04, 2017, 11:05:41 PM
What a bunch of negative nellies you lot are
Not really, come Saturday we will all be screaming for the lads I'm sure kicking every ball with them.....but we know Koeman could put us on the back foot that is a five at the back again, even before kick off ... 😣that's the dread.
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: bluenuck on September 04, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
These couple weeks are just a "doom-mongers" dream, aren't they?

We get run over here this site will implode.

Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 05, 2017, 12:26:35 AM
team i want us to play


                       Pickford
             Jagielka      Keane 
Kenny                                 Baines
           Gana Gueye Schneiderlin
                        Siggy
        Lookman            Rooney
                         DCL


the team Koeman will play

                  Pickford
     Jagielka Williams Keane
Holgate                          Baines
         Gana Gueye Schneiderlin
           Davies          Siggy
                     Rooney
                 
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 05, 2017, 12:30:42 AM
These couple weeks are just a "doom-mongers" dream, aren't they?

We get run over here this site will implode.

For me personally, I dont care about the result, its about the performance, or the gelling of the team, and the tactics.
If we continued in the same defensive way as we started V Man City, id have no issues, but in reality that match was an exception to all the other matches we have had this season. That match we played as a team, to our strengths and we looked fluid, against every other team (including 4 matches v not very good European opposition) we couldnt even keep the ball, or keep hold of possession.. we looked abysmal going forwards, for far too many games we have looked like we have no idea how to attack...
regardless of the opposition, im more concerned how we are playing. Im not a doom monger, im a realist. trololo
apart from 1 match v man city and one half of football v Ruzonbrek, we have seriously struggled on a lot of aspects.
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Juanito on September 05, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
            Pickford
Martina Jags Keane  Baines
      Gana    Schiederlin
           Klaassen
Sandro    DCL   Sigurdsson
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: Ross on September 05, 2017, 12:39:42 AM
Be interesting to see what team he picks bearing in mind the games on Thursday and the following Sunday.

Spurs are obviously a good team but this is the most winnable out of the three so hopefully we go into it with a positive outlook, home advantage should mean something and I don't hope it's not another containment first job.
Title: Re: Spurs (H) 3pm Sat 16th
Post by: sam of the south on September 05, 2017, 12:56:32 AM
Be interesting to see what team he picks bearing in mind the games on Thursday and the following Sunday.

Spurs are obviously a good team but this is the most winnable out of the three so hopefully we go into it with a positive outlook, home advantage should mean something and I don't hope it's not another containment first job.

Yes, agree on all points.

If he sets up five at the back at home then he's gone beyond Moyes into the grim *"Hwheel give et a gud gooooo" territory.

*Glaswegian phonics
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Gash on September 05, 2017, 12:58:10 AM
Can't change the date on this bastard phone either


I've changed it. Far easier to just put Everton v Spurs rather than arseing around with dates. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 05, 2017, 01:00:15 AM
We played 5 at the back in his first game vs Spurs and we started on the front foot.

Think it's more of an attitude rather than formation thing.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 05, 2017, 01:47:46 AM
We played 5 at the back in his first game vs Spurs and we started on the front foot.

Think it's more of an attitude rather than formation thing.
We don't have the players for it though .....Williams and Jags look lost in a five ....imho...may Be be better playing  Holgate in place of Williams ...on the right in behind the wing back Martina
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 05, 2017, 01:51:30 AM
We played 5 at the back in his first game vs Spurs and we started on the front foot.

Think it's more of an attitude rather than formation thing.

Personnel as well. The three at the back is supposed to allow us some width when we're in possession but all it does is force us back as we don't have athletic wing backs suited to best utilise the formation.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 05, 2017, 03:04:17 AM
We will win this. It will be a shit game.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Silas on September 05, 2017, 04:38:41 AM
We will give it a good go at home. Think we will win
Title: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 05, 2017, 07:27:38 AM
Pickford
Martina Keane Jags Baines
Schneiderlin Gueye
Davies
Rooney Sigurdson
DCL

I'd love that team to start, nice balance, good amount of quality.

Vlasic looks a player too, decent unknown quantity to bring on and surprise Spurs.

Edit: oh yeah... win 1-0
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 05, 2017, 01:28:17 PM
                Pickford

Holgate Keane Williams Baines

Lennon Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson

                  Rooney
              Calvert-Lewin

Almost certainly not gonna be this side but I would go with something like this. I worry Sandro could be a bit of a passenger for this with us probably being second best in terms of possession and him not quite being upto speed with the league yet. I thought Lennon looked alright against Chelsea and would be fired up against his former club

DCL seems essential now
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 05, 2017, 02:01:08 PM
team i want us to play


                       Pickford
             Jagielka      Keane 
Kenny                                 Baines
           Gana Gueye Schneiderlin
                        Siggy
        Lookman            Rooney
                         DCL


               



Believe me - Koeman will 100% start with this formation if a new rule comes out between now and then which allows us to field o0ne more player than the opposition!



(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btPCcdNniyf0ArS/source.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 05, 2017, 02:02:29 PM
Well it just seems like Gana Gueye is 2 players but he is only 1!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 05, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
Well it just seems like Gana Gueye is 2 players but he is only 1!

Oh shit.

I've only gone and Toddacelli'd meself.


(https://media.tenor.com/images/feafbee5bc6322c524ea73fcf2bb6631/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 05, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Pickford
-- Gana --
Keane -- Gana -- ---------- Jagielka -- Gana --
-- Gana -- Holgate -------------------------------------------------- Baines -- Gana --

-- Gana -- Gana --------------- Schneiderlin -- Gana --

-- Gana -- Sigurdsson -- Gana --

-- Gana --  Sandro ------------ Rooney -- Gana --
-- Gana -- DCL -- Gana --


Get's around a bit our Gana like. Going to be a busy boy!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 05, 2017, 04:10:28 PM
We'll win 2-0.

Sandro and DCL.



                           Pickford
          Holgate Keane Williams Baines
                     Gana Schneiderlin
                         Sigurdsson
                   Sandro DCL Rooney

This is the team I would also go with, solid at the back with two of the best covering in front of them, Siggy playing the 10 with Rooney and Sandro darting in behind and our newly found/only target man who is gaining vast experience and living up to Koemans praise and hype
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 05, 2017, 04:32:16 PM
We'll win 2-0.

Sandro and DCL.



                           Pickford
          Holgate Keane Williams Baines
                     Gana Schneiderlin
                         Sigurdsson
                   Sandro DCL Rooney


Quite fancy this (although I'd have Jags over Williams).

Everyone worrying about Spurs and how far we are behind - at least a line up like this would make them worry about us.

Attack is the best form of defence and all that...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 05, 2017, 05:41:00 PM
Must not play Sigurdsson on the left. Must not play Sigurdsson on the left. Must not play Sigurdsson on the left.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 05, 2017, 05:45:02 PM

Quite fancy this (although I'd have Jags over Williams).

Everyone worrying about Spurs and how far we are behind - at least a line up like this would make them worry about us.

Attack is the best form of defence and all that...

Yeah, I would prefer Jags, but I think Koeman will give Williams the nod IF he only goes with two CB's.

Good to see you going Full Re-Todd earlier, bro 😃 :hug:
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 05, 2017, 06:02:55 PM
Yeah, I would prefer Jags, but I think Koeman will give Williams the nod IF he only goes with two CB's.

Good to see you going Full Re-Todd earlier, bro 😃 :hug:

Yeah.

Piss off.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 05, 2017, 06:04:02 PM
Yeah.

Piss off.

 :thumbsup:


Awww  :hug:  :-*

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 05, 2017, 06:17:56 PM
They've got ex-Everton in Dier so we've got to play Siggy and Lennon just so the narrative is on our side.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 05, 2017, 06:34:54 PM
Anyone else half expect RK to drop Rooney for this one?
His head cant be right now (the twit)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 05, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
I wouldn't worry about numbers @Toddacelli (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) Bradley's Blues played with 12 with Lowrey's Legends having 14 on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 05, 2017, 09:22:52 PM
Can't see Rooney being dropped.

He's been through allsorts in the past and just got on with it. Think he has a proper thick skin.

The only worry I would have is that if his marriage is breaking down then that could cause him to do things out of work that would affect his form, like what he eats, drinks, how well he sleeps etc. How he looks after himself off the pitch could possibly affect him but generally he has shrugged off all kinds of abuse for Everton, Man U and England in the past.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 05, 2017, 09:47:41 PM
If he was going to do this, shame it didn't happen when he was still at Utd and it would be their problem. Timing sucks.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 05, 2017, 10:25:18 PM
Nice to see Sandro up for it, and keen to impress.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sandro-ramirez-believes-hes-prime-13575090
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 06, 2017, 04:10:49 AM
We will win this. It will be a shit game.

Beat me to it. Alli will be two-fingering his ol' England team mate in jest just for old times sake reminding him of what may have gone on in the Volkswagen.

DCL to score. Someone has to.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 06, 2017, 04:52:21 AM
1-1 all over it
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 06, 2017, 05:49:02 AM
1-1 all over it

I'd take that now I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 06, 2017, 07:42:23 AM
Just want to see us play like it looks like there's a plan, even if it fails, 1-1 would be good result.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 06, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
Rooney to be dropped, DCL up top, Sig playing just behind him and us to play surprisingly well with genuine pace and movement and our record signing in his best position.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 06, 2017, 04:25:19 PM
Rooney to be dropped, DCL up top, Sig playing just behind him and us to play surprisingly well with genuine pace and movement and our record signing in his best position.

I expect this to be the case around Christmas when we're struggling to get points on the board.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheRam on September 06, 2017, 04:50:51 PM
I expect this to be the case around Christmas when we're struggling to get points on the board.

Proper down about the blues recently you la
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 06, 2017, 05:40:30 PM
Proper down about the blues recently you la

Haha, I am aren't it.

I'm prone to periods of optimism and periods of proper pessimism like. At the minute I just don't like what I see. A half decent performance against Spurs and I'll be back on the top 6 train.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 06, 2017, 05:52:19 PM
Haha, I am aren't it.

I'm prone to periods of optimism and periods of proper pessimism like. At the minute I just don't like what I see. A half decent half performance against Spurs and I'll be back on the top 6 train.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 06, 2017, 10:35:55 PM
Potential for the slowest collection of players ever on a football pitch between these two.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 06, 2017, 11:08:40 PM
Potential for the slowest collection of players ever on a football pitch between these two.

Yes.

They're an interesting example and counter point to a lot of gripes that we may have about our own players / team, in that they don't really have many fast players and don't have much width at all in attacking areas.

It's the intensity with which they play that is the key and so it shouldn't be impossible for us to try to emulate that.

Although having said that their record away at the other top 6 teams is poor too...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluedylan on September 06, 2017, 11:13:46 PM
A key difference being that their fullbacks/wingbacks have pace and engines to get up and down all day.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 06, 2017, 11:36:29 PM
A key difference being that their fullbacks/wingbacks have pace and engines to get up and down all day.

Exactly.

That is where their dynamism comes from, to compliment the quick passing and excellent movement of the rest of their side.

We currently have no notable pace from our wingbacks, nor quick passing or movement from the rest of our players.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluedylan on September 06, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
Exactly.

That is where their dynamism comes from, to compliment the quick passing and excellent movement of the rest of their side.

We currently have no notable pace from our wingbacks, nor quick passing or movement from the rest of our players.

Also, all their centre halves can pass the ball and they play a high line and compress the play very effectively, making their pressing much easier and over shorter distances.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 07, 2017, 12:44:00 AM
So they basically do very well all the things Koeman talks about wanting us to do.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 07, 2017, 01:05:45 AM
So they basically do very well all the things Koeman talks about wanting us to do.

Yes, plus they have more 'tools' in which to do them (pace, ball-playing centre-halves, and they are clearly coached to pass and move, a lot)

So our current 'failings' as far as I can see are in recruitment (for not signing and/or getting rid of players with pace) and not coaching quick pass and move well enough.

Of course this may all click once the players know each other better, however Koeman does seem to favour the direct approach more, although this will have trouble succeeding without a target man.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheRam on September 07, 2017, 02:47:55 AM
Reckon this game will start with 10 centre mids on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 07, 2017, 03:14:50 AM
Are we missing anyone? Is Schneiderlin out for example?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 07, 2017, 04:54:26 AM
Are we missing anyone? Is Schneiderlin out for example?

Think he only had a One match ban

Unsure if Klaassen is back from injury yet and hopefully Gana is feeling no ill effects as he was carrying a knock last time out

Holgate and Pickford pulled out of under 21 duty with knocks so unclear whether that was anything to worry about

Also presumably there's been no one else shot in the Besic family

Coleman, Bolasie and Funes Mori remain long term absentees
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 07, 2017, 05:11:46 AM
oh FFS, if we end up missing Pickford and Holgate I might just fucking shoot myself already.

Schneiderlin was only 1-game ban, and a bullshit one at that.  If it had been 3 games, it would have been reviewable and easily overturned.

Good news front - will be televised on CNBC, so Blarg doesn't have to spring for NBC Sports Gold just yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 07, 2017, 05:21:48 AM
oh FFS, if we end up missing Pickford and Holgate I might just fucking shoot myself already.

Schneiderlin was only 1-game ban, and a bullshit one at that.  If it had been 3 games, it would have been reviewable and easily overturned.

Good news front - will be televised on CNBC, so Blarg doesn't have to spring for NBC Sports Gold just yet.
I'd doubt Holgate will start anyway and I'm certain Pickford will
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 07, 2017, 07:18:48 AM
oh FFS, if we end up missing Pickford and Holgate I might just fucking shoot myself already.

Schneiderlin was only 1-game ban, and a bullshit one at that.  If it had been 3 games, it would have been reviewable and easily overturned.

Good news front - will be televised on CNBC, so Blarg doesn't have to spring for NBC Sports Gold just yet.

Chill, man. Read the book. Bet Blargy hasn't read it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 07, 2017, 08:29:23 AM
What book?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: mikey_blue on September 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Wanyama being out is a massive boost.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Macca77 on September 07, 2017, 08:21:34 PM
Koeman confirms that Rooney will start on Saturday
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: pjk on September 07, 2017, 08:28:35 PM
Koeman confirms that Rooney will start on Saturday



Has he done his press conference? It's not responding anywhere.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 07, 2017, 08:47:56 PM
Koeman confirms that Rooney will start on Saturday

I might have held him out of the XI (but not the squad) one match, but I support Koeman's decision
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Macca77 on September 07, 2017, 08:56:05 PM


Has he done his press conference? It's not responding anywhere.

Yep, key points

-Disapointed in Rooney and he will be dealt with internally, he starts the game on Sat
-Has spoken to Barkley about Chelsea and told him the reasons he pulled out of deal
-Happy with the majority of the transfer window, said we were unlucky not to get option A or B of out striker targets and basically said there was no real point in buying a lesser striking option who wouldn't really improve the team
-Niasse is back in the first team squad basically because of his attitude but more because we didn't get what we needed during the window
-Mirallas needs to work hard and give us more competition for places
-Vlasic is one of the biggest talents in Europe

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: pjk on September 07, 2017, 09:36:44 PM
Yep, key points

-Disapointed in Rooney and he will be dealt with internally, he starts the game on Sat
-Has spoken to Barkley about Chelsea and told him the reasons he pulled out of deal
-Happy with the majority of the transfer window, said we were unlucky not to get option A or B of out striker targets and basically said there was no real point in buying a lesser striking option who wouldn't really improve the team
-Niasse is back in the first team squad basically because of his attitude but more because we didn't get what we needed during the window
-Mirallas needs to work hard and give us more competition for places
-Vlasic is one of the biggest talents in Europe






I didn't see that much in Vladic when he played against us. I didn't notice him very much to be fair. Time will tell I suppose. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bigmanbob on September 07, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
Prezzer in full here: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-news-transfers-live-blues-13583847

Pickford is fit
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 07, 2017, 10:11:22 PM
Niasse back
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 07, 2017, 10:14:46 PM
Whenever you are wondering about injuries these are a couple of places worth checking:

Physio Room (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php)
We have one of the worst injury lists at present!

Also don't forget
Our own official list (http://www.evertonfc.com/teams/injuries-suspensions)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: formerKHL on September 07, 2017, 10:21:01 PM
wish we were playing them away first
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 07, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
Good sign... Rooney looking happier today.
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Toddacelli on September 07, 2017, 10:56:57 PM
We've got a fairly favourable run of fixtures after this so if we do ok this weekend - things could be looking pretty good by the end of October.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 07, 2017, 11:16:49 PM
We've got a fairly favourable run of fixtures after this so if we do ok this weekend - things could be looking pretty good by the end of October.

After the trip to old Trafford...

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 07, 2017, 11:22:21 PM
Good sign... Rooney looking happier today.
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

Caption competition people!

(Leighton, hands on hips) "You mean you got in all that trouble and not even a BJ la." (Wayne) "You dog. Do you think the press know everything?"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 08, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
Good sign... Rooney looking happier today.
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

Wanna go for a bevvy after practice?

Haha. Fuck off!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 08, 2017, 12:40:55 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170907/9f0e2074a724c0384fd741998abb3473.jpg)

She's got a sister ya know .
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 08, 2017, 01:16:07 AM
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

(Leighton) "So you've got that whole mansion to yourself now?" (Wayne) "Yeah, and she thinks it was her idea!"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 08, 2017, 01:34:25 AM
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

"Just couldn't wait to get me hands on them lad"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffeeland on September 08, 2017, 01:48:40 AM
2-2
kane
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueForYou on September 08, 2017, 01:51:37 AM
WR: "Taxi!"

LB: "It's the only ride you're getting"

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 08, 2017, 01:52:06 AM
"Just couldn't wait to get me hands on them lad"

This one fits the best, in my opinion of course. Baines giving it the "oooh, get you" reaction.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheRam on September 08, 2017, 02:02:16 AM
Not a chance our Leighton involves himself in such filth.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: mikey_blue on September 08, 2017, 02:46:11 AM
Caption competition people!

(Leighton, hands on hips) "You mean you got in all that trouble and not even a BJ la." (Wayne) "You dog. Do you think the press know everything?"

Where they real or what?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 08, 2017, 03:16:58 AM



I didn't see that much in Vladic when he played against us. I didn't notice him very much to be fair. Time will tell I suppose. :)

Yes, I agree about Vladic, didn't notice him at all.

Vlasic, however, looks pretty damn tidy 😉
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 08, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 08, 2017, 04:56:45 PM
Good sign... Rooney looking happier today.
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

Hi Wayne, is it true that the cop who pulled you over was a RS supporter ?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluedylan on September 08, 2017, 09:47:04 PM

(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

''Isn't it about time you fucking grew up and started behaving like a vaguely responsible human being?''
''Chill out Bainesy, lad''
''I am fucking chilled''

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 01:16:16 AM
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

International breaks eh, kin hell Wazza lid


Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 09, 2017, 01:23:01 AM
(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article13587925.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rooneybaines.jpg)

"Been on the General Forum recently?"
"Fuckin hell that Ridge fella doesn't half bang on and on about American politics"
"Seems smart but he'd get his points across far better if he was more concise"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Brownie20 on September 09, 2017, 01:27:18 AM
Not a chance our Leighton involves himself in such filth.

He is the naughtiest left back in the world though
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueForYou on September 09, 2017, 02:30:52 AM
WR: "I thought you said you were a fan of Beetles"

LB: "The Beatles"
       "And "Ticket To Ride" is a song"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 09, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
WR: "I thought you said you were a fan of Beetles"

LB: "The Beatles"
       "And "Ticket To Ride" is a song"

So is "Drive My Car"

Quote from: Paul McCartney
Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, can't you see
I want to be famous, a star on the screen
But you can do something in between
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And maybe I'll love you
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueForYou on September 09, 2017, 01:51:58 PM
WR: "Help!, Bainsey"

LB: "Ask Coleen, She Loves You"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Can we stop these shit captions now? Fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 02:12:40 PM
https://twitter.com/WelsbyElton/status/906213377307017216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23906213377307017216
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 09, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
Could only really see that if 4-2-3-1

Pickford

Holgate Keane Williams (would prefer Jags) Baines

Gueye Schneiderlin

Rooney Sigurdsson Vlasic

DCL


Only way with 3 at the back would mean no DCL.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 02:55:02 PM
We played 5 at the back in his first game vs Spurs and we started on the front foot.

Think it's more of an attitude rather than formation thing.

It's an attitude and a personnel thing.

If you ain't got a ball-playing CB, who also likes to bring it out from the back, it leaves you outnumbered in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 03:07:12 PM
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-tottenham-hotspur-live-streaming-5522
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 09, 2017, 04:09:43 PM
cant wait for a three o clock kick off! Finally!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Good horse racing, 3 kick off, tea time game pile of stella and half bottle o Kraken. if carlesburg did saturdays.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 09, 2017, 04:19:06 PM
It's an attitude and a personnel thing.

If you ain't got a ball-playing CB, who also likes to bring it out from the back, it leaves you outnumbered in midfield.

Yes I just mean that if we press aggressively higher up the pitch the tone of the performance is much better.

They're likely to have more of the ball so we can either be reactive, sit deep and try and break or we could (should) be a bit more proactive and try and force them into mistakes nearer their goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
Yes I just mean that if we press aggressively higher up the pitch the tone of the performance is much better.

They're likely to have more of the ball so we can either be reactive, sit deep and try and break or we could (should) be a bit more proactive and try and force them into mistakes nearer their goal.

Pressing the best pressers in the league is going to be quite a task, I feel, but I agree, it is our best chance; get in their faces, get at them, use our ball players to move the ball around quickly, and try and get some 'pass n move' going.

However, if we did go three at the back we can't compress the play with a high line due to our lack of pace at the back, so we end up dropping deep, getting outnumbered in midfield, cluttered at the back, and isolating our front players.

Also, playing the breaking game on them will be quite thankless with our overall lack of runners in the final third (DCL apart, if he plays)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 05:39:45 PM
https://twitter.com/WelsbyElton/status/906213377307017216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23906213377307017216

First time I've smiled about Everton since the deadline day, hope the lad can drag us through the mud.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
Would be boss if that vlasic was a monster wouldn't it!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 06:14:12 PM
Kodi... sportsdevil>sportstv>streamHD.eu>Schedule.....working well
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 06:21:23 PM
I can't say I'm expecting much today, Spurs always do us here. They press too much and we can't deal with it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: School of Science on September 09, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
Yes I just mean that if we press aggressively higher up the pitch the tone of the performance is much better.

They're likely to have more of the ball so we can either be reactive, sit deep and try and break or we could (should) be a bit more proactive and try and force them into mistakes nearer their goal.

Though I like the idea of Vlasic starting, think it will be a little early, Sandro from the start, like the look of that team. With Vlasic, Davies, Klassen if fit and Mirallas in the wings.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
Though I like the idea of Vlasic starting, think it will be a little early, Sandro from the start, like the look of that team. With Vlasic, Davies, Klassen if fit and Mirallas in the wings.

Rather start the kid than Mirallas because even a fully arsed Mirallas barely does anything, imagine a not arsed one?.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: School of Science on September 09, 2017, 06:37:40 PM
Rather start the kid than Mirallas because even a fully arsed Mirallas barely does anything, imagine a not arsed one?.

So would I but I think Sandro will start ahead of Vlasic, Mirallas on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
Pressing the best pressers in the league is going to be quite a task, I feel, but I agree, it is our best chance; get in their faces, get at them, use our ball players to move the ball around quickly, and try and get some 'pass n move' going.

However, if we did go three at the back we can't compress the play with a high line due to our lack of pace at the back, so we end up dropping deep, getting outnumbered in midfield, cluttered at the back, and isolating our front players.

Also, playing the breaking game on them will be quite thankless with our overall lack of runners in the final third (DCL apart, if he plays)

I am glad somebody has a workable idea, because I keep coming back with nothing.  Feels wildly optimistic of me to stay with 1-1 in Prediction League, but stay I shall.  Weird shit happens sometimes.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 06:53:48 PM
I can't say I'm expecting much today, Spurs always do us here. They press too much and we can't deal with it.

I really rate Spurs and last year when we played them I thought 'Jesus the gap between us and them...' so today is a nice test of Ron's ideas and the summers squad building.

I think it's come a bit early for us however and we'd probably have better luck if we played that horrible long ball stuff we played against City. Wasn't pretty but it was an effective system that really disrupted them for 60-70 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 09, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
They start the seasons quite slowly.

Of Burnley can draw with them at Wembley then we've got a fine chance at Goodison.

It'll be 1-1 though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 07:43:33 PM
They start the seasons quite slowly.

Of Burnley can draw with them at Wembley then we've got a fine chance at Goodison.

It'll be 1-1 though.

Not a bad shout - us to play well and go ahead in the first half, only to slow down in the second and for Kane or Alli to get an equaliser in the 85+ min
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 09, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
Stood in front of @bluenose91 I think in Barlows

Anyway, the game. Gonna be tough this I think
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 07:51:27 PM
well, worst come to worst, at least the Shite are getting humped beforehand
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Buck76 on September 09, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
I really don't like the tight c**ts, they rob our targets & players for buttons.... Levy deserves the Mane treatment & no win in 9 is a disgrace, Siggy & Rooney masterclass would be timely.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:02:00 PM
Sandro in the lone striker role.  Both Klaassen and Sigurdsson start.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 09, 2017, 08:02:40 PM
DCL should be playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 08:02:58 PM
Odd line up. Martina and Williams at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 08:03:04 PM
Rooney, Klassen, Sigurddson and Sandro all in.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 08:03:42 PM
Anyone going to post the actual team?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 08:04:08 PM
Why'd we have to get all these stupidly hard fixtures all at once anyway? kind of takes the sails out of the season a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
Vlasic, Mirallas, DCL on the bench.  No Niasse (gee, who could have predicted that) but also no Besic.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJSLFl5WAAA_o5m.jpg:large
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:05:17 PM
Link is all I know how to do, sorry.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 08:05:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/906502538161205248
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 08:06:30 PM
Looking forward to seeing the movement between Sig, Klassen and Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheRam on September 09, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
Don't like that line up at all
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
It's different, will give it a chance (though am skeptical).  Koeman doesn't have much option but to throw different (shit) formations against the wall and see what sticks.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 08:10:26 PM
Now he's got the right formation, he's got the wrong players...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
Looking forward to seeing the movement between Sig, Klassen and Rooney.

Bumping into each other I imagine.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
Going to be very tough playing against that Spurs lineup.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 08:11:33 PM
Got a feeling Sandro will score today.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:13:23 PM
Got a feeling Sandro will score today.

First match I'm watching with my Sandro shirt so if so, you're welcome!  :D
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hill135 on September 09, 2017, 08:14:05 PM
Very narrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
if we somehow manage to win this today it would be some start to the season given the fixtures like, away to utd next, kin hell
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
Going to be very tough playing against that Spurs lineup.

no dembele or wanyama
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
spurs going 5 at the back, sanchez starts
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Juanito on September 09, 2017, 08:17:48 PM
Streams?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: mikey_blue on September 09, 2017, 08:19:13 PM
They're playing just as narrow as us.

2-1. DCL will come on and ignite a 2 goal comeback.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Buck76 on September 09, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
Surprised Mirallas made the bench instead of Lookman and Sandro starting instead of DCL. Interesting to see the Klass Roo Siggy combo in action.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: stirlingblue on September 09, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/906502538161205248

Are those positions definetly correct?

Thought it was more likely to be:

Sigurdsson Klaasen Sandro

                  Rooney

Sandro would at least give some width
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Are those positions definetly correct?

Well it's the club's social media team that have compiled it, not me.

You'll probably see a huge amount of interchanging.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Streams?
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/6z1k3k/1400_gmt_everton_vs_spurs/
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
Glad we're going to attack Spurs, hope we can keep hold of the ball, dont really mind the team of formation. i probably would have replaced Kenny lol for Martina.. but other wise, lets see what we can do, COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 08:37:04 PM
does anyone know which channels this is being shown on worldwide tv?

if so, you can get the acestream link of the channel here
http://www.livefootballol.me/acestream-channel-list-2017.html
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: School of Science on September 09, 2017, 08:38:30 PM
Part of me would have liked DCL to start, we don't seem to have an out ball or a threat in the air. Oh well club, let's beat this shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
does anyone know which channels this is being shown on worldwide tv?

if so, you can get the acestream link of the channel here
http://www.livefootballol.me/acestream-channel-list-2017.html

Being shown on quite a few channels, including CNBC (US) and TSN1 (CA):

http://liveonsat.com/los.soc_br_premier_ONLY.php
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:42:17 PM
You'll know you've found the US feed if it's currently an infomercial for the Shark vacuum.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
Per NBCSN, 300th PL start for Bainesy.  Huzzah!!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 08:43:46 PM
Strong XI. A draw would be "acceptable," but a win would be sooo welcome prior to going to OT
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
does anyone know which channels this is being shown on worldwide tv?

if so, you can get the acestream link of the channel here
http://www.livefootballol.me/acestream-channel-list-2017.html

This one looks mint:

edit: scratch that wrong game
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 08:44:49 PM
DCL played for Eng U21's so maybe why he's on the bench...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 08:46:01 PM
This one looks mint:

acestream://e7968fe55b27a9b308aa2273271f73c8fe3e5593


thank you good sir :)

was working my way down the list.. lol the TSN ones didnt want to work for me :)

Respect an enjoy the game MrWhite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:47:13 PM

thank you good sir :)

was working my way down the list.. lol the TSN ones didnt want to work for me :)

Respect an enjoy the game MrWhite.

sorry mate I jumped the gun, think that's showing Arse
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: keverton1971 on September 09, 2017, 08:47:29 PM
http://www.streamcomando.com/en/stream/everton-tottenham-167702
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: starblood on September 09, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
The picking of Williams over Jags is the strange one for me. Especially as he played for Wales whilst Jags (and Keane) have had a good rest.

And Jags and Keane look a better partnership on what we've seen so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
DCL played for Eng U21's so maybe why he's on the bench...

He actually pulled out of the second game, so might have a slight knock.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
sorry mate I jumped the gun, think that's showing Arse
no probs bud, we'll get one soon enough :D
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
http://buffstream.com/watch/soccer-5.php

http://www.genti.stream/tottenham-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 08:54:55 PM
The picking of Williams over Jags is the strange one for me. Especially as he played for Wales whilst Jags (and Keane) have had a good rest.

And Jags and Keane look a better partnership on what we've seen so far.

doesn't fancy Jags does he
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:55:23 PM
no probs bud, we'll get one soon enough :D

Think that Ace list is well out of date mate.. Lists YES who is a friend of mine, don't think he's still streaming and certainly not on Acestream, hasn't for a few years. Bloodzeed also listed, he got arrested a while back and will deffo not be streaming any more. The links for several channels appear dead also, apart from the NBCSN one which isn't our game. Oh well!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Think that Ace list is well out of date mate.. Lists YES who is a friend of mine, don't think he's still streaming and certainly not on Acestream, hasn't for a few years. Bloodzeed also listed, he got arrested a while back and will deffo not be streaming any more. The links for several channels appear dead also, apart from the NBCSN one which isn't our game. Oh well!


lol the list says 2017! guess its going to have to be a java link ;/

using this 2000k stream atm

http://hdhub.live/channel/channel-1-live-stream.html
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:58:33 PM
This looks a mint stream:

http://hdhub.live/channel/channel-1-live-stream.html
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
Excellent quality stream:

http://www.sport247.live/en/player/59b3b1525c38a238388154/2/1050/59b3f37a71bb5/EvertonFC-TottenhamHotspurFC/768/432
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 08:59:51 PM

lol the list says 2017! guess its going to have to be a java link ;/

using this 2000k stream atm

http://hdhub.live/channel/channel-1-live-stream.html

Beat me to it.  ;D

Yeah but I think they only update that page as they find out, and don't remove old links.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:00:37 PM
Feel optimistic, i feel we got this.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
I like our odds at Old Trafford, because I've taken an opiate.  COYB!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:02:07 PM
A cross inside a minute!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
A cross inside a minute!

It is a Martina/Sigurdsson XI.  There Will Be Crosses.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:05:10 PM
Good pressing !
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:05:13 PM
Like using an old basketball adage - pressing sides don't like to be pressed!  :D
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 09, 2017, 09:05:33 PM
Odds on Williams being sent off .
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:05:41 PM
No need to foul him there.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:05:45 PM
Dumb by Williams.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:05:53 PM
da fuq williams.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:06:23 PM
Ashley Williams reminds me that I must scrub me kitchen floor
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:06:27 PM
Nice one Ash..

Gets caught like that more than Mori
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:06:32 PM
Real quality by Martina there
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:06:35 PM
silly yellow for williams
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:06:54 PM
good play there
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:06:58 PM
Nice by Martina.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 09:07:15 PM
Martina lightning
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
What a chump
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
there goes me stream, fuck off freebies
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: christiffa25 on September 09, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Ashley Williams is dump
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:08:46 PM
Ref coulee have given williams a warning i feel, especially such early doors
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
We did amazingly well in this over-inflated market to bring in two quality additions on a free like this.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:09:37 PM
Ref coulee have given williams a warning i feel, especially such early doors


The yellow will get him off at the half, blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:09:38 PM
Ref coulee have given williams a warning i feel, especially such early doors


Added to that Dier gets away with that
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 09, 2017, 09:09:58 PM
Streams?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:10:16 PM
http://hdhub.live/channel/channel-1-live-stream.html
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:10:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/6z1k3k/1400_gmt_everton_vs_spurs/
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 09:11:29 PM
If only Williams was as good as he thinks
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 09:11:57 PM
TSN Acestream:

acestream://ea4acda277d3b475b9a3055846d8c7a15300afb0
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:12:06 PM
fuckin williams, why is he even on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:12:37 PM
How does Alli get that much space in the fucking box?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
Should be getting beat there.. fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
Like getting that fucker on a yellow
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 09, 2017, 09:13:27 PM
Ref is shite again
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
Hee hee "a little blowie"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:15:58 PM
Getting lucky here. Need to sharpen up at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:16:08 PM
wow, hows it 0-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:16:10 PM
Who was meant to be tracking Sissoko?

Williams has done well there though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
fuck me sideways
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:16:18 PM
We need to get a grip here,they are blowing through our midfield
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:16:24 PM
How we been looking, lads?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:17:27 PM
Communication at the back here seems questionable.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:17:37 PM
How we been looking, lads?

entire back line is asleep, except Martina of all people
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
How we been looking, lads?

not great. spurs looking the more likely...so far
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:17:52 PM
How we been looking, lads?

dodgy as fuck at the back
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:18:10 PM
They're going to have their way with us all game down that side.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Who was meant to be tracking Sissoko?

Williams has done well there though.

Sissoko is shit so doesn't need tracking remember.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Pickfords got the arse of a fully grown dwarf
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:19:11 PM
Pickford always knows EXACTLY where he is in relation to his area.  He's just awesome in every way.  Such a marked difference from his predecessors (especially Howard).
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
touch of the Anders Frisks about this ref
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:20:04 PM
Pickfords got the arse of a fully grown dwarf

Keeper got BACK
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:20:41 PM
Sigurdsson is trying too hard.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:21:53 PM
Bit wobbly at the back, bit disjointed up front.

A couple of decent individual performances though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
If Sandro and DCL were both up top, we might have something going.  Klaassen might as well be invisible.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
my hump my hump, my hump, my lovely pickford lumps, check it out
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
http://nexit.fun/index.php?ch=2&h=251&a=685

for those looking for a stream.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:24:13 PM
Couple of shaky moments aside I think we are matching them pretty well.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:24:24 PM
Word combination nobody ever imagined typing: Cuco Martina, MotM?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
Cuco was lucky there.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Bit wobbly st the back, bit disjointed up front.

A couple of decent individual performances though.

Who is playing well, BT? (Not being confrontational, I'm not watching so I want somethinh positive to cling onto before they go 1-0 up 😂)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:25:42 PM
weak-assed free kick
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:25:43 PM
Schniederlin continuing his useless start to the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Cuco was lucky there.

But if he doesn't challenge, it's a pretty easy chance.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:28:00 PM
Cuco does walk that fine line between brave and reckless.  I do get that, it does make me nervous.  But in a match when the rest of the defense is asleep, we need it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:28:15 PM
oh fuck everything
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Gash on September 09, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
Word combination nobody ever imagined typing: Cuco Martina, MotM?

Pretty much everything Spurs have created has come down our right, he hasn't got close to Davies.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:28:25 PM
Leaving your worst defender to cover an entire side of the field himself seems like a bad idea.

But here we are.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:28:30 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
Who is playing well, BT? (Not being confrontational, I'm not watching so I want somethinh positive to cling onto before they go 1-0 up 😂)


Martina and Gueye. About it really...

Rooney okish, Williams did well to put off players or get in the way when The ball dropped to Spurs in our box.

Never mind we're losing 1-0 now.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 09:28:43 PM
fuck right off :(
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:28:43 PM
Only what we deserve
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:28:44 PM
Lucky piece of shit
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:28:47 PM
fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
twas coming though
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Omar on September 09, 2017, 09:29:10 PM
well fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:29:16 PM
Flukey cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 09, 2017, 09:29:24 PM
great
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
We don't have anyone who can dictate the match.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Pretty much everything Spurs have created has come down our right, he hasn't got close to Davies.

Not entirely his fault but yes, he is a massive liability in defense.

For the odd burst of pace and smashed first-time cross, it isn't worth it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:30:20 PM
Fluke goal really. Robles would be getting some crap though if that was him.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:30:41 PM
Ashley Williams again..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 09:31:00 PM
Some hit. Defo meant it too. Sometimes just give credit where it's due. What a hit
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
This is better. COYB !
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
of course, there's the 2nd time he's almost set up a goal.  Sandro a bit unlucky there (I think, no replay shown)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
Fluke goal really. Robles would be getting some crap though if that was him.

coz robles is badly shite
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:32:24 PM
We don't have anyone who can dictate the match.

fixed
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:32:54 PM
Is Schneiderlin continuing his flakey start to the season?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:33:05 PM
Some hit. Defo meant it too. Sometimes just give credit where it's due. What a hit

Kane meant that? Not having that, he was just whipping in a cross.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 09:33:12 PM
This is different to last season how?
Still no one in MF to play it around and win us a game
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Kane meant that? Not having that, he was just whipping in a cross.

Defo meant it, look at the speed and the ferocity on it. He meant it
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 09:34:04 PM
looking a bit grim this,

spurs consistently working their way forward in possession. we do the opposite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:34:08 PM
Isn't the problem more we aren't using the midfield to interrupt what Spurs are doing?  Martina seems to be holding his own to me, when push comes to shove.  He obviously can't press his man up the pitch the way Holgate does.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:34:26 PM
Is Schneiderlin continuing his flakey start to the season?

He hasn't been the influence of last season. Feels a bit anonymous so far. Along with Klassen.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:34:41 PM
Any luck Matina is going to get on the end of one of those shit crosses..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 09:34:54 PM
Fuck sake! This lot really seem worth ripping our squad apart for.   Garbage again!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
Kane meant that? Not having that, he was just whipping in a cross.

perhaps even the wind got it, which is why it didn't serve as the intended cross
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:35:29 PM
Same shit different week.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
I forgot kane never scores in August so he always was going too today.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
Need DCL and Vlasic on at the half.  Yes, I await everyone's scorn.

/remember I'm as little high, be nice
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
No efforts on target? Sounds bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
15:30
'He certainly had some luck!'
Everton 0-1 Tottenham

Leon Osman
Ex-Everton midfielder on BBC Radio 5 live
For all the bad luck he's had in August, he certainly had some good luck then.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
Defo meant it, look at the speed and the ferocity on it. He meant it

he miss hit it you pleb
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:37:09 PM
Ashley Williams is an awful front-foot defender. He's at his best when he's blocking shots and cutting out crosses/passes in his own penalty area. That's what his reputation was built on.

Koeman wants to press and, if you want to press, your centre backs have to be able to defend on the front foot. Terrible signing. An older player for his declining years playing a way he hasn't really played before.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:37:57 PM
Schneiderlin again... get him off!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:37:58 PM
fuck off morgan
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Klaassen anonymous, this midfield/forward line is too lightweight, slow and immobile. Koeman get's it wrong again. Place your bets for yet another half time reshuffle.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:38:50 PM
Has he got underlining issues or something?, he doesn't seem himself at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:38:56 PM
DP, apologies
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:39:05 PM
Ashley Williams is an awful front-foot defender. He's at his best when he's blocking shots and cutting out crosses/passes in his own penalty area. That's what his reputation was built on.

Koeman wants to press and, if you want to press, your centre backs have to be able to defend on the front foot. He's a terrible signing. An older player for his declining years to play a way he hasn't really played before.

I don't mind him as a reserve/depth option, but we keep trying to use him ahead of Jags/Holgate, which to be is stupid in the former case, and short-sighted in the latter (and also probably stupid)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:39:10 PM
Schneiderlin again... get him off!

no support, at all
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
..Sandro is a bit shit isn't he..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:40:13 PM
If I take a 2nd opiate, can I make 4 subs?  I really want Jags and Davies on the pitch, too.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
..Sandro is a bit shit isn't he..

no, not really. he's looked one of our brightest.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 09:40:36 PM
We just arent gonna get enough goals. Actually look a decent footballing side but if youve no out ball teams push up on you.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
..Sandro is a bit shit isn't he..

Wash your mouth out with soap! :D
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:41:53 PM
Shit. Game over.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:41:57 PM
Miserable.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
OK, that was a complete fuck up, Cuco
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
no support, at all

Schneiderlins job is to be the support.

0-2, boooooo.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:42:13 PM
we are badly shite
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:42:19 PM
Pathetic defending.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 09:42:26 PM
hate moaning, but this is getting worse...and they score right on cue. fuck it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:42:33 PM
Shit. Game over.

Yeah, I can't see us scoring 1 let alone 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
We just arent gonna get enough goals. Actually look a decent footballing side but if youve no out ball teams push up on you.

These numbers 10's were supposed to be getting us 10 goals a season each but I'm just not seeing it..at least not against the good teams anyway. It's sad how far behind we actually are in comparison to Spurs.


and 2 nil
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 09:42:59 PM
Fucking pub team
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:43:04 PM
miles off these ain't we
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 09, 2017, 09:43:07 PM
awful
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Peel the paint off the walls at the half, Ron.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
We're fucking shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: dchans on September 09, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
Not going well

But Spurs are one of the best teams in the league and will beat most others
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:44:03 PM
we look lost at sea
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 09, 2017, 09:44:05 PM
Fucking useless at the back ...Ducking Williams has a few Bob on spurs win ....oh a Williams interception well I never .
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:44:06 PM
Good job Martina is only a squad player hey
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hill135 on September 09, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
Sandro looks very Jelavic, lots of pointless running and falling over.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: fubarruk on September 09, 2017, 09:44:14 PM
Men against boys. Game over, bunch of arse!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
praying to get off the pitch 0-2 at home is a bad look, I don't give a tin shit if you're playing Barca
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
Have we had a shot on target?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 09:44:48 PM
These numbers 10's were supposed to be getting us 10 goals a season each but I'm just not seeing it..at least not against the good teams anyway. It's sad how far behind we actually are in comparison to Spurs.


and 2 nil

It seems we just snapped up a load of 10 goal a season players without any really thought of if they can play together

Shite keeping that. Shite defending first but the keeping is poor. Gonna be a long plodding season. Just a plodding alright team.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:44:59 PM
But Spurs are one of the best teams in the league and will beat most others

regardless of this, we look really poor
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 09, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Get DCL on that pitch at half time.

Sandro and Rooney are an awful partnership.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
Koeman hasn't done well here.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 09:45:15 PM
and to think we could remotly challenge the top 6. No fucking chance. 'Project' what fucking project.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:45:31 PM
Maybe we can get Moshiri on Sky Sports to explain why we're so shit after the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:45:34 PM
Gulf in class but more worryingly lack of desire and lack of a game plan. On Koeman that.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Have we had a shot on target?

if we have, I missed it
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 09, 2017, 09:45:51 PM
Williams for jags. ....klassen for DCL
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
It seems we just snapped up a load of 10 goal a season players without any really thought of if they can play together

Shite keeping that. Shite defending first but the keeping is poor. Gonna be a long plodding season. Just a plodding alright team.

What was Pickford meant to do there..?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
we just need 7 more midfielders in january and we'll be ok
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheRam on September 09, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Someone shoot Ashley Williams please
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
Im out. Cant be arsed. Not pleasurable watching Everton at the minute

Spurs aint been great. We carry zero goal threat though
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:46:24 PM
Say what you will about how good Spurs are but we shouldn't be getting slapped around like this at Goodison. Ever.

Proper Martinez stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
Have we had a shot on target?

No Sam.

And to answer your full time question, no.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
our season is down to Europa.  We are not gonna challenge in the League.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:46:46 PM
Why do we never have two good halves anyway, Koeman is losing me every game man, really is.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:46:49 PM
for a team full of captains we sure are lacking leaders
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:46:55 PM
They should've had 4 or 5 and it wouldn't have flattered them.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:47:05 PM
'Kinell this is scary.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MexicanToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
Getting murdered out wide.... well, all over really.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:47:21 PM
This is an absolute shambles, we are fortunate not to be down 0-3 or FOUR AT HALF TIME.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
this could get (more) embarrassing...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
£45m for number 10 and then play him out on the left
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 09:47:33 PM
Koeman has got it all wrong again, signings are shit, formations are shit
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 09:47:35 PM
Maybe we can get Moshiri on Sky Sports to explain why we're so shit after the game.

Probably something about Messi was having a medical but changed his mind half way through
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
Why do we never have two good halves anyway, Koeman is losing me every game man, really is.

I know the feeling, I'm not enamoured by him at present
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:47:55 PM
Klaassen is just a ghost in the way Koeman is deploying him so far. A complete waste of a talent.

Too many number 10's in the team/squad.

There is a reason why only one shirt can have a number 10 on it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 09, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Martina is fucking horrific
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 09:48:14 PM
Say what you will about how good Spurs are but we shouldn't be getting slapped around like this at Goodison. Ever.

Proper Martinez stuff.

Not like Spurs have been fantastic. Teams must look at us see we have no pace and move their entire team 10 yards further up the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:48:16 PM
Martina looking to set Kane up there
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
Say what you will about how good Spurs are but we shouldn't be getting slapped around like this at Goodison. Ever.

Proper Martinez stuff.

This is WAY more about us than it is about Spurs.  After that 2nd, we damned near quit on our home ground, with 55 minutes to play.  That is serious shit, and needs immediate redress.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 09, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
We were never going to get anything against these. And we won't at United either.

We're a fair way off the top 6 still but we have a lot of youngsters and new signings so they need time.

We've had a nightmare run of fixtures to be fair, that point at city looks pretty good now eh?

We really needed another striker and centre back in though, that was a fuck up by the board really looking at it
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:48:22 PM
regardless of this, we look really poor

started brightly too, ;/

Get DCL on that pitch at half time.

Sandro and Rooney are an awful partnership.

should start with DCL every match, least we have a player willing to make runs behind the defense thus relieving  some pressure off of us.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:48:29 PM
Got out of jail at only 0-2.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 09:48:34 PM
This season is looking ominous! I havn't seen a decent 10 minutes yet this season. Boring, 1 dimensional and above all SHIT!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:48:40 PM
Koeman has this badly wrong. I'm hoping this wasn't our good half.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
No Sam.

And to answer your full time question, no.

Haha.

Grim though, innit 😔
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:48:56 PM
 lolol If I don't laugh I'll have a panic attack and die..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
cuco is fucking poor, williams is poor.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 09:48:59 PM
They have all they space they want down the right. Martina can't defend and we have nobody helping him out.

Genuinely horrible plan.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MexicanToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:49:14 PM
How are we not 4 nil down?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 09, 2017, 09:50:03 PM
How the fuck does a defender not know how to head the ball?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
midfield being obliterated here
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hill135 on September 09, 2017, 09:50:10 PM
we look shite. It could be 4-0

they are better than us individually but more so tactically. they are controlling the territory and we can't beat their press at all. Our press seems to be just running after the ball. That comes down to coaching.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
We were never going to get anything against these. And we won't at United either.

We're a fair way off the top 6 still but we have a lot of youngsters and new signings so they need time.

We've had a nightmare run of fixtures to be fair, that point at city looks pretty good now eh?

We really needed another striker and centre back in though, that was a fuck up by the board really looking at it

Hung on for dear life against 10 man city. We havent remotely impressed in any game this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
How the fuck does a defender not know how to head the ball?

Per Klodrup says hi!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 09, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Koeman hasn't done well here.
He's always got the get out quite of 'I didn't get my striker'.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on September 09, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Need to take off Williams, Martina and Klassen. We should be dead and buried by now!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 09:50:59 PM
id be happy to see the back of Koeman
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:51:02 PM
They have all they space they want down the right. Martina can't defend and we have nobody helping him out.

Genuinely horrible plan.

2 DMs on the pitch holding their dicks, mostly
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
I'm actually starting to miss Barkley !
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 09:51:32 PM
Not able to watch this but it sounds grim as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:51:56 PM
Smells of Martinez this. Similar feeling after watching that Everton side.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Haha.

Grim though, innit 😔

Gallows humour is the only way forward at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 09, 2017, 09:52:08 PM
Awful. Could outdo the shite here but being a loyal Evertonian will hold out for a 3-2 win with Williams scoring the winner, ahem.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:52:20 PM
I question a fair few players on the pitch, but I'm questioning the balance of signings and game plan far more.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 09:52:34 PM
sigurdsson is being played out left, the exact reason he wasnít a success at spurs. lassen is fucking anonymous, as he has been every time heís played. Rooney and sandro want to play in the same position it seems. thereís no cover on the right for martina, and he canít defend. weíre a shambles. we havenít played well at all yet this season, and i canít see what options we have to improve it. worrying.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 09:52:41 PM
Not able to watch this but it sounds grim as fuck.

It's even worse than you could imagine.  That last 10 minutes were as bad as I've ever seen us play.  Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:53:03 PM
Koeman has got it all wrong again, signings are shit, formations are shit

Manager needs serious criticism. Midfield soooooo bad, formation offers no protection for the defense.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 09:53:28 PM
this 4 2 3 1 shit needs banned by are mangers its the most fucking crap formation I have ever fucking seen
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 09:53:54 PM
I'm actually starting to miss Barkley !

Waaaay better than Klassen
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 09:54:02 PM
I just don't understand our game plan. We have so many central midfielders yet our midfield presence is sparse at best. We have no pace up front and we hoof it up to Rooney. 

Can anybody help me understand our team?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:54:15 PM
The most worrying thing is for a defensive coach, our defence looks awful.

Williams, Martina don't belong at the top end of the league.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 09, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
We look completely lost, Koeman's way of playing at the moment, along with his set up and team selection, are fucking abysmal.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 09:54:35 PM
Apart from maybe 5-10 minutes where we did get forward, win corners and managed to see what the Spurs goalkeeper looked like, we've been shit.

Whilst many of the players are to blame, Koeman has a lot to answer for after this half, this guy is getting paid £125k a week to make football decisions.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
Need to take off Williams, Martina and Klassen. We should be dead and buried by now!

we need to sun min of 4 players here
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: School of Science on September 09, 2017, 09:54:38 PM
Jesus that was awful our strongest midfield hardly got a look in, Spuds are giving us a football lesson. Need DCL on then at least we have a bit of pace and a threat in the air. Could be four down. I would bring Vlasic on to to give us some width. Pickford at fault for first goal ? Was it a cross or a shot off Kane, cunt always seems to score against us.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 09, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
Not denying we look shit but...

7 of our starting 11 signed this summer.

3 of the remaining 4 have only been here a year or less.

It was always going to take time
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 09, 2017, 09:55:59 PM
Hung on for dear life against 10 man city. We havent remotely impressed in any game this season.

I wouldn't say hung on for dear life, they didn't have many decent chances, come on now.

But yeah we've looked shit although its to be expected with all the new signings, it's a long term project that i hope will reap rewards

You've got to give them time. City, Chelsea and Spurs are still way better than us but in a couple of seasons that might not be the case
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
Say what you will about how good Spurs are but we shouldn't be getting slapped around like this at Goodison. Ever.

Proper Martinez stuff.

Worse. We look 10 times more ponderous in attack.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 09:56:50 PM
score early in the second half and ya never know, surely we can't be as bad as that second half
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lazarou on September 09, 2017, 09:56:53 PM
I just don't understand our game plan. We have so many central midfielders yet our midfield presence is sparse at best. We have no pace up front and we hoof it up to Rooney. 

Can anybody help me understand our team?

I can't mate sorry. It is totally wrong we have been trying this since the first friendly and not once has it looked effective. To play our record signing out of position is just absolutely fucking criminal not saying it is the answer but who spends that sort of money with the intention of playing them out of position. Either the wrong buy or bought wrong.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 09:57:42 PM
Gallows humour is the only way forward at the moment.


Yeah, it's often my way in most situations.

So, let me guess:

Williams poor ✅
Martina a liability ✅
Schneiderlin controlling the game as well as an incontinent 90 year-old controls their bladder✅
Klaassen anonymous✅
No width or pace ✅
Not much movement when we have the ball✅
Attack totally isolated from the midfield✅
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 09, 2017, 09:58:16 PM
this 4 2 3 1 shit needs banned by are mangers its the most fucking crap formation I have ever fucking seen

Yeah its shit without the right players to play the system, still don't see whats wrong with 4-4-2. Nice and balanced.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
I just don't understand our game plan. We have so many central midfielders yet our midfield presence is sparse at best. We have no pace up front and we hoof it up to Rooney. 

Can anybody help me understand our team?
I just don't understand our game plan. We have so many central midfielders yet our midfield presence is sparse at best. We have no pace up front and we hoof it up to Rooney. 

Can anybody help me understand our team?
There is no creditable plan, Koeman is as tactically illiterate as Martinez ever was, utter dog shit, spurs will have had harder training matches this week.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
I just don't understand our game plan. We have so many central midfielders yet our midfield presence is sparse at best. We have no pace up front and we hoof it up to Rooney. 

Can anybody help me understand our team?

#SecondSeasonSyndrome
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:01:05 PM
Yeah its shit without the right players to play the system, still don't see whats wrong with 4-4-2. Nice and balanced.

we will never play 4 4 2 ever that would make to much fucking sense 
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 09, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
We can only hope for better ....as we have been a team of two halves .
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 10:01:48 PM
Yeah, it's often my way in most situations.

So, let me guess:

Williams poor ✅
Martina a liability ✅
Schneiderlin controlling the game as well as an incontinent 90 year-old controls their bladder✅
Klaassen anonymous✅
No width or pace ✅
Not much movement when we have the ball✅
Attack totally isolated from the midfield✅

Manager looking tanned and refreshed after well deserved break ✅
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Buck76 on September 09, 2017, 10:01:51 PM
Surely Holgate & DCL on at HT.... Shocking how unbalanced & toothless we are, bottom 6 at this rate...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:02:11 PM
we need to sun min of 4 players here

No, he plays for Spurs, and the transfer window is closed now
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
DCL and Davies coming on.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:02:43 PM
lot of players get a free pass on here, well i am gonna say it...
Baines has been shite for a large part of 18 months when fit
Also, Sandro has been dire, Gylfi doesnt know where he is playing and Morgan is a passenger

ok, i am just gonna say this, let the cards fall as they may.....we miss McCarthy
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
Holgate for Martina
Jags for Williams
Davies for Schneiderlin
DCL for Klaassen
Vlasic for Sandro or Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 10:03:11 PM
Surely Holgate & DCL on at HT.... Shocking how unbalanced & toothless we are, bottom 6 at this rate...

Fuck thats a depressing thought, our only options to avoid a HOME hammering!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:03:17 PM
I wouldn't say hung on for dear life, they didn't have many decent chances, come on now.

But yeah we've looked shit although its to be expected with all the new signings, it's a long term project that i hope will reap rewards

You've got to give them time. City, Chelsea and Spurs are still way better than us but in a couple of seasons that might not be the case

No we defended quite well. That's all we did though. City are a top team but we should be able to give them an even half when they were down to 10. We played like we had the 10.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:03:26 PM
dcl and davies on, klaassen and sandro orf
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: MrWhite on September 09, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Baines has been shite for a large part of 18 months when fit

That is total bollocks. Although he has been poor today.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
DCL and Davies coming on.

Right now I would bring on Daniel Amokachi if I could
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:03:48 PM
Nice. The hopes and expectations of an entire fanbase on the shoulders of DCL.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
Yeah, it's often my way in most situations.

So, let me guess:

Williams poor ✅
Martina a liability ✅
Schneiderlin controlling the game as well as an incontinent 90 year-old controls their bladder✅
Klaassen anonymous✅
No width or pace ✅
Not much movement when we have the ball✅
Attack totally isolated from the midfield✅


even if you dont watch the match, these issues are there for everyone to see, most Evertonians are willing to give the team/formation/Koeman time..

:/ i just gotta a feeling we will be this poor against the lower teams.

dcl and davies on.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:04:15 PM
Manager looking tanned and refreshed after well deserved break ✅

Surely you mean looking more pink than usual ✅
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:04:20 PM
motherfucker
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:04:21 PM
Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 10:04:36 PM
getting silly now ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 10:04:39 PM
well fuck this
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 10:04:42 PM
we just make it so easy
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
Game over. 44 minutes plus injury time of damage limitation now.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
I'd rather see Davies start than Klassen.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:05:09 PM
We are a fucking disgrace
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:05:15 PM
Can't even be happy when Liverpool lose as we as always look worse.

Terrible.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:05:36 PM
lot of players get a free pass on here, well i am gonna say it...
Baines has been shite for a large part of 18 months when fit
Also, Sandro has been dire, Gylfi doesnt know where he is playing and Morgan is a passenger

ok, i am just gonna say this, let the cards fall as they may.....we miss McCarthy

Baines is done as a top quality full back. It's a shame because we a time he was possibly the best in the league. He's bang average now. Just an okay premier league player. Nothing wrong with that but needs replacing if we are looking upwards
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 10:05:38 PM
Fuck off Koeman!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
Boos well-deserved
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Least Kane is my captain in my fantasy footy..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 10:05:49 PM
lol :(
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:05:53 PM
Bit of a piss take just as I turn my stream on.

This looms horrendous.

Could be anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:05:57 PM
good start lads, well in
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
What's happened?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:06:11 PM
Want to see Vlasic but wouldn't wish this debut on him.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:06:18 PM
Shouldnt have laughed at Lpool before ...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Brownie20 on September 09, 2017, 10:06:18 PM
Jesus fucking wept
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: pjk on September 09, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
A disastrous game this.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:06:34 PM
Have to wonder what the confidence will be like.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:06:52 PM
(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/cf/cfc45e83ddc9dc3629b9bb14d160fe22d18363bada3d8aaf197f1edadb62e9ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:07:12 PM
Baines playing on the right side of midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
What's happened?

3-0 Kane left unmarked in the box. Wasn't even a clever run. Players just not tracking.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:20 PM
No we defended quite well. That's all we did though. City are a top team but we should be able to give them an even half when they were down to 10. We played like we had the 10.

Yeah that's a reasonable viewpoint but like i say its going to take time for this team to settle in.

They whipped the shite 5-0 so i think we did an ok job there, unlike today.

It will be interesting to see how we're doing come January so i'll reserve any serious judgement until then
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 09, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
 I feel like I've just woken from a long sleep and Martinez is still here... that kind of deep, panicky fear..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
Baines is done as a top quality full back. It's a shame because we a time he was possibly the best in the league. He's bang average now. Just an okay premier league player. Nothing wrong with that but needs replacing if we are looking upwards

He is having a bad match.  His first of the season. 

Hardly worth singling out today, maybe 8th on the list.

Problem is we came out of the dressing room at half, not even giving effort.  We might get bummed worse than the Shite, who gave up 5 to City for the first time in 80 goddamned years.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:07:54 PM
Why couldn't we have played Tottenham in August.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:08:01 PM
3 new number 10s and not 1 of them is close to being as good as barkley who was up and down himself. Roll on January when we can sign another 3 rather than what we actually need
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:08:08 PM
Even Burnley got a draw.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:08:09 PM
Who came off? I don't suppose it matters mind you.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: christiffa25 on September 09, 2017, 10:08:15 PM
Instead of signing 100 number 10's we really needed to sign the striker and cb we desperately needed.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
spurs will go to the shite and bottle it then, cunts
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
Who came off? I don't suppose it matters mind you.

sandro and klaassen
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:09:02 PM
Ah the toothless Everton performance feeling. Welcome back old friend.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:09:13 PM
Who came off? I don't suppose it matters mind you.

San and Klaassen
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:09:18 PM
I know I'm not watching, and I know Spurs are a much better side than us, but Koeman's footballing ideas and man-management are a bit shit aren't they 😬

There, I've said it.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: boothill on September 09, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
look on the bright side , should be 5 or 6 down
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:09:29 PM
Klaassen and Sandro off
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:09:42 PM
Reckon we will be sound this season and improve on 7th.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: fubarruk on September 09, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Challenge for the top 6??? We're fucking miles off, without Lukaku bottom 6 looks more likely
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: IUToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:10:00 PM
This car-wash cunt Schneiderlin may be the worst on the pitch. Makes Cuco and Williams look world class.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hannu on September 09, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
am gonna turn it off, gonna end up 5 or 6 nil here koeman needs to fuck tho
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:10:04 PM
Reckon we will be sound this season and improve on 7th.

lol
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
Even Burnley got a draw.

Burnley are very well-drilled...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
He is having a bad match.  His first of the season. 

Hardly worth singling out today, maybe 8th on the list.

Problem is we came out of the dressing room at half, not even giving effort.  We might get bummed worse than the Shite, who gave up 5 to City for the first time in 80 goddamned years.

Can't remember his last great game. Not suggesting he's been any worse than anyone else but he's just an okay defender with very little goal threat now. Not singling him out. Average might be a compliment compared to a few we have
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
This really is replaying just like fucking Roberto
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
This car-wash cunt Schneiderlin may be the worst on the pitch. Makes Cuco and Williams look world class.

What's a carwash cunt? 🤔
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 09, 2017, 10:10:59 PM
Car wash cunt? What does that mean lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
this is like watching brazil v barrow
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Is it still a knee jerk reaction to not be happy this season lads?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:11:24 PM
Can't remember his last great game. Not suggesting he's been any worse than anyone else but he's just an okay defender with very little goal threat now. Not singling him out. Average might be a compliment compared to a few we have

That's fair.  He is a different player now, but I'd argue he's more than an okay defender in his current incarnation.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:11:26 PM
Unfortunately I feel Koeman has banked on Coleman and Bolasie coming back the same players which is a bit silly if you ask me.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:11:57 PM
Car wash cunt? What does that mean lolol

because he washes cars, Avi.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:12:01 PM
Desperate this.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:12:03 PM
Should be about 10.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:12:08 PM
Is it still a knee jerk reaction to not be happy this season lads?

give us a buzz xmas week lid
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 10:12:09 PM
Williams done yet again...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 09, 2017, 10:12:16 PM
3 new number 10s and not 1 of them is close to being as good as barkley who was up and down himself. Roll on January when we can sign another 3 rather than what we actually need

Think people are getting nostalgic for Barkley, he had more bad games than good
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Maybe we need to just change managers every fucking season.  It's the only solution to "Everton, aren't we?"
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
Shambles. Absolute shambles.

Koeman has some serious questions to answer.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
I'd put Jags or Holgate on, our defence is shot to pieces
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:13:02 PM
Cant cross. Better movement though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:13:09 PM
Unfortunately I feel Koeman has banked on Coleman and Bolasie coming back the same players which is a bit silly if you ask me.

I think you are bang on there, Cozzie
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 10:13:15 PM
I know I'm not watching, and I know Spurs are a much better side than us, but Koeman's footballing ideas and man-management are a bit shit aren't they 😬

There, I've said it.

I'd live with the man management if the ideas were better. Someone like Tuchel, Favre, or Schmidt would be able to squeeze a lot more out of the resources we have, basically by having a functional system and sticking to it.

There's not that much separating Koeman from Moyes/Pulis. Except maybe his pedigree as a player, which I'd argue is mostly irrelevant to management.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
That's fair.  He is a different player now, but I'd argue he's more than an okay defender in his current incarnation.

Maybe the problem is the modern fullback has to carry a real threat going forwards too. Especially in our team with no wingers
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 10:13:56 PM
£150m spent and fucking clueless.  No pace, no shape, no striker.  Fucking shambles
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:14:11 PM
We must be trying to preserve Holgate's health for Thursday.  Makes one wonder why the fuck Mo isn't on the bench, then.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 10:14:25 PM
A disaster fuck and utter naive, shambolic tactical display, not the players fault, confused.com
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Redartin on September 09, 2017, 10:14:29 PM
Amazing how the shite being spouted on here matches the shite on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:14:51 PM
Think people are getting nostalgic for Barkley, he had more bad games than good

He isn't the answer on his own, clearly we've had similar games with him in it but it should be clear our problems weren't always about him.

I'd have Barkley stay ahead of our new signings too though. We have zero driving force between the three of them.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
Think people are getting nostalgic for Barkley, he had more bad games than good

Wasn't his biggest fan but I'm not having he's any worse than any of the bloody new 1s. We've built a fucking fantasy football team. Just racked up stats rather than a blend of footballers who can play together
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: boothill on September 09, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
arses handed to us
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:15:28 PM
Maybe the problem is the modern fullback has to carry a real threat going forwards too. Especially in our team with no wingers

He can, just secondarily now.  It's not an issue when Seamus is in the team, leading the charge down the right.  I think Koeman specifically asked him to become more defensively-minded.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:15:35 PM
Yeah looking back the signings never made sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 09, 2017, 10:15:48 PM
lot of players get a free pass on here, well i am gonna say it...
Baines has been shite for a large part of 18 months when fit
Also, Sandro has been dire, Gylfi doesnt know where he is playing and Morgan is a passenger

ok, i am just gonna say this, let the cards fall as they may.....we miss McCarthy

We could certainly use McCarthy in this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hill135 on September 09, 2017, 10:16:34 PM
we are tactically a bit shit but I'd swap any of our players for their opposite number in the team.

Except maybe Gueye.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
Come Thursday, I want players on the pitch who have some pride in wearing the shirt.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:16:59 PM
can't even get a shot on target, at home, embarrassing
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 09, 2017, 10:17:00 PM
I think you are bang on there, Cozzie
That'll be the board / Walsh, not Koeman. And you can't replace players because they MIGHT come back shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blob on September 09, 2017, 10:17:29 PM
nobody marking 3 strikers...they shoulda scored again :(
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:17:43 PM
What happened to our great home record ?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:17:46 PM
We could certainly use McCarthy in this game.

why he would only be one more play playing in the shit formation
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:17:55 PM
Amazing how the shite being spouted on here matches the shite on the pitch.

How so?

People are prone to go to extremes in these threads, but there is nothing positive in this performance.

We could've easily been 6-0 down here. So many clear cut chances for them.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 10:18:10 PM
This is worse than Chelsea last season
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:18:13 PM
Shoulda been 4.

Trippier is excellent.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 09, 2017, 10:18:27 PM
Barkley would be stinking the place out as much as anyone else on the field today, let's sip some real tea for a minute.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
Get Rooney off.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 09, 2017, 10:18:39 PM
It would help if we could pass to one of our own players... poor, very poor. Lukaku will ruin us at this rate
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:18:45 PM
I wonder if Rooney is the big problem in all this. Just fitting him in because he's Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:19:07 PM
Absolute shambles Koeman is beyond shit
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: hill135 on September 09, 2017, 10:19:23 PM
Stream's gone.

Just as well
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
I don't want to see fucking McCarthy anywhere near the team sheet.  JESUS
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:19:43 PM
Get Rooney off.

get the bird with the fake tits on, can't do any worse
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:20:36 PM
I wonder if Rooney is the big problem in all this. Just fitting him in because he's Rooney.

Genuinely don't think it's helping.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:20:42 PM
Koeman doesn't even know how he wants to play, he's a terrible manager
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 10:21:03 PM
We knew what we needed in the summer, a couple of centre halfs, a couple of strikers, winger with pace.  What did we sign?  4 fucking number 10's with nobody to play in front of them.  Not like we didn't know Lukaku was off since about January
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: wepull on September 09, 2017, 10:21:30 PM
Is Koeman trying to justify his signings by playing on such a formation? Today except Baines, all are signings done in his reign. Not saying there are many better options there but I would surely play Jags over Williams in this form, Holgate over cuco when playing 4 in defense and surely someone like Mirallas/Lennon over klassen/Sigurdsson at wings.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
2 years ago we wern't too far of the pace like (squad), where Spurs slowly upgraded in a few areas Koeman knew better and got rid of the lot. Arrogant prick is starting to grate on me (hope on day I eat these words though)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34025306

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
I wonder if Rooney is the big problem in all this. Just fitting him in because he's Rooney.

I worried about that coming in, but don't think it's played out that way.  Who knows behind closed doors, though.

Playing him every minute of every match like this is foolish, for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 09, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
Stream's gone.

Just as well

Mine went after I clicked the X in the top corner of the screen
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 09, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
why he would only be one more play playing in the shit formation

Damage limitation... he'd break up play and cover more of the pitch to stop their attacks.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: fubarruk on September 09, 2017, 10:22:07 PM
I wonder if Rooney is the big problem in all this. Just fitting him in because he's Rooney.
Who plays instead? Already present absolutely zero goal threat yet he's the best striking option we currently have
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:22:11 PM
cash out value for my bet today now stands at Ä0.01 , fuck the fuck orf
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:22:19 PM
Lopsided squad, absolute mess, same old shite
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:22:50 PM
Thank fuck Chelsea were content to leave it at 2.  We could have a right shocking goal differential.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 10:23:15 PM
Come Thursday, I want players on the pitch who have some pride in wearing the shirt.
Do you really think it's the players fault though? The plan is shit whatever it may be.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 10:23:21 PM
Have we had a shot on target yet
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 10:23:38 PM
Any team hoping to have ambitions of winning silverware and challenging a top 6 place would not have brought Rooney back. Like i've send before Everton is sentimental family club.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:23:53 PM
Agreed.

As good as it was seeing us signing players early the transfer window now has to go down as being a bit of a disaster.

We ended up finding out that Moshiri sounds like a meerkat as well.

Disaster.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:23:55 PM
Who plays instead? Already present absolutely zero goal threat yet he's the best striking option we currently have

hmm the £45m player we got

the 2 of them are playing in the wrong spots if both have to be on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 09, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
All that money spent and we still need 4/5 players. I'll give them time but it'll be grim watching until we form some form of cohesion...but then next summer we'll bring in a new LB, CB, Striker and when winger and have the same problem.

Spurs are a good, settled side though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:24:20 PM
Who plays instead? Already present absolutely zero goal threat yet he's the best striking option we currently have

I think it's like the days when we had Ferguson. We played better without him too.

DCL shows passion and pace, it would allow Sig to play central and maybe allow Davies in the side too. Rooney isn't the future either. He'd be a good option from the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:24:28 PM
Do you really think it's the players fault though? The plan is shit whatever it may be.

You can always at least give effort.  There was none the last 10 minutes of the half, nor the opening bit of the second.  Inexcusable.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 10:24:44 PM
woohoo finally found a great acestream link
acestream://ea4acda277d3b475b9a3055846d8c7a15300afb0
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:24:49 PM
Absolutely no attacking threat, midfield is non existent and we're dogshit at the back
Everyone still dead optimistic ?
Take your heads out of your arses guys and see it for what it is. - a damn mess
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:25:37 PM
Agreed.

As good as it was seeing us signing players early the transfer window now has to go down as being a bit of a disaster.

We ended up finding out that Moshiri sounds like a meerkat as well.

Disaster.

Add to that that we have no money to spend
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Polledreng on September 09, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
Mine went after I clicked the X in the top corner of the screen
lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:25:57 PM
Terrible dive by Davies there.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:26:47 PM
I think it's like the days when we had Ferguson. We played better without him too.

DCL shows passion and pace, it would allow Sig to play central and maybe allow Davies in the side too. Rooney isn't the future either. He'd be a good option from the bench.

I like him as an energy bench option, he certainly should do that sometimes, at least.  At this rate, he will be on fumes by January.  And we aren't able to see other combinations, like you outlined.  Koeman being stubborn/inflexible.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:26:59 PM
I wish my stream would fucking die
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 10:27:03 PM
It's hilarious when we win the ball and every forward option is standing next to a marker.

I think if Pochettino could have picked our tactic for us, this is what he would have gone with. Just an atrocious plan.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cozzie on September 09, 2017, 10:27:07 PM
Ive no doubt Sigurddson and Klaassen are great players but we dont have a system to play em in.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 10:27:19 PM
I wonder if Rooney is the big problem in all this. Just fitting him in because he's Rooney.

Blarg, that wasn't serious was it?

We are back to where we were 2-3 years ago where opposition rushes right through our useless midfield causing multiple defensive cockups and conceded goals. Rooney has nothing to do w that.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:27:28 PM
Bring on Vlasic, not the best time for a debut but would at least I've me something to be interested in.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 09, 2017, 10:28:17 PM
Absolutely shocking that

Has lukakus goals papered over cracks?

We genuinely have no attacking threat. None

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:28:34 PM
all that's left now is teddy bear head to score
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:28:36 PM
Blarg, that wasn't serious was it?

We are back to where we were 2-3 years ago where opposition rushes right through our useless midfield causing multiple defensive cockups and conceded goals. Rooney has nothing to do w that.

I assume he was taking more about our lacklustre attacking third.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:29:29 PM
Absolutely shocking that

Has lukakus goals papered over cracks?

We genuinely have no attacking threat. None



Goals and presence. Defenders have nobody to worry about currently.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: keverton1971 on September 09, 2017, 10:29:31 PM
http://www.streamcomando.com/en/stream/everton-tottenham-167702
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Absolutely no attacking threat, midfield is non existent and we're dogshit at the back
Everyone still dead optimistic ?
Take your heads out of your arses guys and see it for what it is. - a damn mess

I'm going to have to agree with you
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:30:29 PM
Look how quickly Lukaku papered over United's remaining cracks.  From borderline Top 6 to fucking steamroller.

Turns out he's really fucking good after all, not overrated, certainly not "lazy."
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
Ive no doubt Sigurddson and Klaassen are great players but we dont have a system to play em in.

That's my take the players we signed are all individually decent but there's not really a system where you can play klassen rooney and Sigurdsson together. It's too many attacking positions without real drive or pace. We maybe needed 1
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:30:45 PM
http://hdhub.live/channel/channel-1-live-stream.html
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:31:00 PM
Blarg, that wasn't serious was it?

We are back to where we were 2-3 years ago where opposition rushes right through our useless midfield causing multiple defensive cockups and conceded goals. Rooney has nothing to do w that.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason, but we've no attacking system, no outlet either. This puts pressure on the rest of the team if you offer no threat.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Mac934 on September 09, 2017, 10:31:23 PM
Absolutely no attacking threat, midfield is non existent and we're dogshit at the back
Everyone still dead optimistic ?
Take your heads out of your arses guys and see it for what it is. - a damn mess
Agreed, clueless, toothless, mindless shite, not a clue at all what they are doing. Good job Spurs don't have their shooting boots on, should be 6-0! I can't believe what I am watching. Really up for it after the earlier result today, not any more, we have no excuses. I'm even losing faith in Koeman, yet again 2 more subs at half time means he fucked up his 1st choice again as usual. Get it fucking right from the start dick head!!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
Jesus, we are down to 15th.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:32:00 PM
Hey, at least we're not West Brom, getting shithoused by the other Albion at home?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:32:06 PM
Look how quickly Lukaku papered over United's remaining cracks.  From borderline Top 6 to fucking steamroller.

Turns out he's really fucking good after all, not overrated, certainly not "lazy."

They've only played 3 games against 3 crap teams. Utd aren't suddenly worldbeaters
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:32:59 PM
That win on the first day was so important. Could've been miles grimmer otherwise.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 09, 2017, 10:33:23 PM
Look how quickly Lukaku papered over United's remaining cracks.  From borderline Top 6 to fucking steamroller.

Turns out he's really fucking good after all, not overrated, certainly not "lazy."

He's trying harder now though mate. He thinks Utd deserve better
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 10:33:45 PM
Everyone on here knows I was Martinez' biggest critic.  At least he seemed to have a plan (which was completely naive) to outscore the other team. 

I have no fucking clue what our style of play is supposed to be, what the plan is (if we have one) or what we are trying to do.  Can someone help me out?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
That win on the first day was so important. Could've been miles grimmer otherwise.

And we didn't play well at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:34:19 PM
They've only played 3 games against 3 crap teams. Utd aren't suddenly worldbeaters

Can we say we've played 3 games against 3 title contenders and say we're not suddenly shit then?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:34:24 PM
1 shot on target in a home game - embarrassing
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
Hey, at least we're not West Brom, getting shithoused by the other Albion at home?

No ones arsed about them
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 10:35:09 PM
The thing is we'll still hit 50+ points comfortably.

Koeman is safe, he's just not up to much. It was good for a year post-Martinez but diminishing returns, I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:35:29 PM
No ones arsed about them

The West Brom fan is.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 09, 2017, 10:35:51 PM
Jesus, we are down to 15th.

Getting comfy.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
He's trying harder now though mate. He thinks Utd deserve better

He scored 25 last year, that was good enough for me
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 10:36:31 PM
Can we say we've played 3 games against 3 title contenders and say we're not suddenly shit then?

We were fucking dreadful for 2 games against a team of Croatian farmers as well dont forget
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:36:48 PM
Can we say we've played 3 games against 3 title contenders and say we're not suddenly shit then?

I think the problem with us is that no pace no width no striker aren't things that are going to gel. Our problems arent things that fix in time

We aren't shit. We carry very little goalthreat though. We'll finish a plodding 8th maybe 7th at a push. Not dreadful but there's no reason for short term optimism
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
No ones arsed about them

Gallows humour, you half-wit cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 10:37:53 PM
The only excitement we have to look forward to is a new stadium, a lords know when that will be.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
1 shot on target in a home game - embarrassing

how did Liverpool do today
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 10:38:04 PM
Can we say we've played 3 games against 3 title contenders and say we're not suddenly shit then?

I havn't exactly been cuming in my pance in Europe or against Stoke. Very lucky to get through them.  We were especially dire against Stoke
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 10:38:27 PM
feel sorry for vlasic here
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:38:43 PM
will you all fcuk off with your streams, no one wants to watch this!

Ashley Williams is sh*te
Mo Schneiderlin is running around like he is doing us a favour by even putting on the shirt
Davy Klassen looks like a fella who was given a "make a wish" foundation present of a game at Goodison, any minute now his mam will come on and take a penalty
Sandro looks bloody awful

But those of you saying the only lad who has scored for us this season is the problem..............!!!
Get to fcuk
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:38:53 PM
What a time to make a debut, but looking forward to seeing something from him for 10 mins.

Wanted Rooney to be subbed mind you. Getting tired of him meandering around the whole time.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:40:25 PM
OMG, Sigurdsson... forgot he was playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kewns23 on September 09, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
I was never koemans biggest fan when we got him, this is awful I said at begging of season no pace.

However we have give the team a chance to gel and see where we are!

Although on plus side if he get sack I would rhino in for bit lol
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
This is terrible for me as well.

The lads coming on at 3 down the crowd in a mood and he's going to do what?

Leave him on the bench until the next game and give someone else a run out he shouldn't be making his debut in a game like this with 10 minutes to do nothing more than run about a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:41:10 PM
will you all fcuk off with your streams, no one wants to watch this!

Ashley Williams is sh*te
Mo Schneiderlin is running around like he is doing us a favour by even putting on the shirt
Davy Klassen looks like a fella who was given a "make a wish" foundation present of a game at Goodison, any minute now his mam will come on and take a penalty
Sandro looks bloody awful

But those of you saying the only lad who has scored for us this season is the problem..............!!!
Get to fcuk

Not happy are you, bro
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 10:41:21 PM
Grim up Norf.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
Rooney falls over yet again when making a shot.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:42:01 PM
OMG, Sigurdsson... forgot he was playing.

Most uninspiring record signing possibly ever. 45m for a player everyone knew wasn't quite good enough or quite what we needed
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:42:24 PM
Woeful shot by Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 10:42:25 PM
We are starting to play better now.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Macca77 on September 09, 2017, 10:42:43 PM
We're a million miles away from Spurs, the gap between us and them has never been so big

Williams's shit
Cuco fucking awful
The rest well below average

Embarrassed
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:42:48 PM
a succession of whiffs and shit headers
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:42:53 PM
Gallows humour, you half-wit cunt

Genius it was too you absolute bell end
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Not happy are you, bro

It's the hope that kills you in the end.........
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:43:54 PM
It's the hope that kills you in the end.........

Yep, I feel you 👊🏼
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 09, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
Rooney looks drunk.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sirblue57 on September 09, 2017, 10:44:12 PM
We are starting to play better now.
well we couldn't actually get worse now....
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:44:20 PM
hope in one hand, shit in the other, see which gets full first
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
We are starting to play better now.

Spurs just coasting.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:44:59 PM
This is terrible for me as well.

The lads coming on at 3 down the crowd in a mood and he's going to do what?

Leave him on the bench until the next game and give someone else a run out he shouldn't be making his debut in a game like this with 10 minutes to do nothing more than run about a bit.

United away next.. going to be another drubbing.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:45:10 PM
how did Liverpool do today

 Original
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:45:29 PM
who did Vlasic come on for?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
We are starting to play better now.

Haha FFS I give up
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
who did Vlasic come on for?

Amokachi for all i care
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ross on September 09, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Rooney looks drunk.

He'll probably ask Koeman if "those are real" after the game..
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:46:07 PM
Vlasic has done more this season than Mirallas has.

Rooney should've been sent off this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:46:14 PM
who did Vlasic come on for?

Gana
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
He'll probably ask Koeman if "those are real" after the game..

now THAT was fucking funny
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: kramer0 on September 09, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
Classic Rooney petulance.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Never mind formation, tactics or line-up, this biggest problem for me is the complete lack of belief.

The players dont look like they have much against anyone and certainly not against the better teams.

It's like the malaise we see playing Liverpool is spreading.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:47:24 PM
He'll probably ask Koeman if "those are real" after the game..

Haha, Dour Man's Moobs
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
our Davies should fight their Davies.  There can only be one.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:48:56 PM
4 minutes added on. A goal a minute and we've won.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Never mind formation, tactics or line-up, this biggest problem for me is the complete lack of belief.

The players dont look like they have much against anyone and certainly not against the better teams.

It's like the malaise we see playing Liverpool is spreading.

Lack of belief is sure to follow if you feel as a player that the formation, tactics, and line-up are lacking.

Same as a supporter, come to that 😒
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blargins on September 09, 2017, 10:49:24 PM
How come our set piece master isn't taking corners?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 10:49:30 PM
We are starting to play better now.
Because they are now walking and laughing there cocks off
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 10:49:46 PM
Comedy of errors
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 09, 2017, 10:51:00 PM
Fucking shit.

Koeman, the clock is officially ticking on sorting this out.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:51:19 PM
Bottom half finish this season based on what I've seen so far
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:51:23 PM
Sigurdsson at least trying these last few minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tofifee on September 09, 2017, 10:52:16 PM
Sigurdsson at least trying these last few minutes.

Hoping Pocchetino might want him
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 09, 2017, 10:52:16 PM
Again, Europa will feel like a break from the League nightmare
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: stirlingblue on September 09, 2017, 10:52:19 PM
This has been very poor.

I don't know enough to know why, and where to put the blame, but there is no doubt that this is latter-Martinez levels of poor.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:52:22 PM
Sigurdsson at least trying these last few minutes.

Sad when that's one of our positives.. haha
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:52:43 PM
Boos at full time.

Deserved.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:52:46 PM
Original

but true
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
booooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 10:53:30 PM
Disgusting. Give the fans their money back you useless pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 10:53:37 PM
Absolute fucking shite
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:54:23 PM
I would like to see us line up without Rooney. Play Sigurdsson as the 10.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 10:54:28 PM
Bottom half finish this season based on what I've seen so far

no yous will still get top 7 then klopp we have to go
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 10:54:33 PM
Sigurdsson at least trying these last few minutes.

45m at least trying these last few minutes?? The bargain of the window
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:54:40 PM
but true

"How did Liverpool get on"
"Original"
"But true"

Rubber head, go and have another joint of spice
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 09, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
We will not finish in the top 8, Enjoy Europe lads, you won't be back next year
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 10:55:24 PM
garbage, that was
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
I would like to see us line up without Rooney. Play Sigurdsson as the 10.

He's the only one who's really contributed any game changing moments this season
I'd like to see us line up without Koeman as manager, the idiot doesn't know what he's doing
Who'd have thought that so soon after the amazing transition that brown shoes wouldn't have seemed that bad after all?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 10:57:47 PM
I started losing faith in Martinez around the time we lost 3-0 at Southampton (half way through that second season) more performances like these and Koemans management skills have got to come into question and the pressure then should slowly start building on him.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 09, 2017, 10:57:50 PM
How come our set piece master isn't taking corners?

Yeah, what's up with that 🤔
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:57:55 PM
well beaten,  Spurs won't be far off the league leaders to be fair
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: boothill on September 09, 2017, 10:58:05 PM
I would like to see us line up without Rooney. Play Sigurdsson as the 10.
i thought he was our best player by a country mile today, like a rolls royce among trabants
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
We will not finish in the top 8, Enjoy Europe lads, you won't be back next year

sound
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
I started losing faith in Martinez around the time we lost 3-0 at Southampton (half way through that second season) more performances like these and Koemans management skills have got to come into question and the pressure then should slowly start building on him.

Koeman is crap, what do you mean more like this? When was the last time we played really well?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 10:59:10 PM
Going to be grim on here for a while.

I realize we've played some tough teams but these peformances have been truly disheartening.

We look a team of misfits.

I'm already getting frustrated with Rooney, he's bringing the same ponderous football that he played at Man United to Everton.

Any chance of thinking we've progressed this summer surely already out the window.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 10:59:58 PM
"How did Liverpool get on"
"Original"
"But true"

Rubber head, go and have another joint of spice

lol, least liverpool fans would enjoy their teams play, id love for us to be half as cohesive as the shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 11:00:20 PM
Barkley looks like Nostradamus now.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 11:00:38 PM
i thought he was our best player by a country mile today, like a rolls royce among trabants

Roams around does nothing hard, fluffs his lines in front of goal. That was his performances for Man United and England in recent years unsurprisingly back again.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 11:01:06 PM
I started losing faith in Martinez around the time we lost 3-0 at Southampton (half way through that second season) more performances like these and Koemans management skills have got to come into question and the pressure then should slowly start building on him.

What is worrying me, is that at least last season he came out and said the board had failed him in getting the players he asked for.  There has been no such accusation upto now.  If we got what he was after in the summer, I've got no fucking idea what he was expecting to do with them
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: boothill on September 09, 2017, 11:03:07 PM
Roams around does nothing hard, fluffs his lines in front of goal. That was his performances for Man United and England in recent years unsurprisingly back again.
the whole team were woeful, i just feel rooney was best out of a bad bunch, davies quite positive when he came on
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: toffee_scot on September 09, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
Really shit today, I am hoping part of the problem is simply new players still adjusting to playing for Everton but FFS, Koeman should have come up by now with some sort of settled style of play for us.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: fubarruk on September 09, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
Don't worry, easy game at United next in the league, we'll start our push from the bottom 3....
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 09, 2017, 11:05:11 PM
Koeman has no excuses now, these are his players, yes he lost Lukaku and as manager it should have been his priority to bring in an adequate striker on not chase Sigurdsson for two months.  He still has my vote this season atleast, but he needs to deliver and deliver now.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 11:05:18 PM
it's so nailed on that we are still finishing 7th in this shit league
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Tinga on September 09, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
I feel like the life has been drained out of me after that, thanks for ruining my weekend Everton. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 11:06:42 PM
it's so nailed on that we are still finishing 7th in this shit league

Wanna bet we finish below 7th?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 11:06:44 PM
"How did Liverpool get on"
"Original"
"But true"

Rubber head, go and have another joint of spice

ahh did I hit a sore point there
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: fubarruk on September 09, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
It's an excuse to turn to drink...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: chang on September 09, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
3 down at home in 47 minutes is disgraceful who ever you are playing..

Not looking like scoring in the last two games is frightening.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 11:08:18 PM
It's not his fault we didn't get a replacement of any kind for Lukaku, it lies with the board. Said it before, they fucked up the single most important task of the summer.

Really? So he shouldn't have bought a striker before going for Sigurdsson?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 11:08:35 PM
1 shot on target. Did we have any against chelsea?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 11:09:13 PM
the whole team were woeful, i just feel rooney was best out of a bad bunch, davies quite positive when he came on

Best of a bad bunch is not how people describe a rolls Royce.

Rooney has been okay. The best of a bad bunch. He wasn't a signing for a progrsssive club
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 09, 2017, 11:09:35 PM
1 shot on target. Did we have any against chelsea?

Think it's 4 on target in 4 games?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bogie on September 09, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
would love one of the interviewers to call Koeman Roberto today
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 11:09:59 PM
Wanna bet we finish below 7th?

waste of time putting a bet on with ya lid, you'll be banned by xmas
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Give it another 5 games or so but if this shit continues, play more from the U23s or graduates, and at least get start to get our identity back.  Reminds me of a poor mans Man City( Mark Hughes era) with a huge dash of Pulis.  YUK!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 09, 2017, 11:11:05 PM
1 shot on target. Did we have any against chelsea?

Not sure but I think it's 7 in 4 games now. The magic of all our new number 10s combining.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Mac934 on September 09, 2017, 11:11:16 PM
He has no clue who to start with or what formation or even a plan. Can't wait for the excuses. The players are like headless chickens, a team of 'leaders' with no one leading them! I hate the fact he also spends most of the game motionless on the sidelines. I'm not wanting Conte/ Klopp style rants, but FFS show something.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 09, 2017, 11:11:20 PM
Think it's 4 on target in 4 games?

wouldn't surprise me
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: School of Science on September 09, 2017, 11:12:21 PM
A few decent touches from Vlasic when he came on, deserved longer, thought Baines was our best player. The team looked disjointed, like they didn't know where they were supposed to be playing. Pickford saved us getting a hiding, but I thought at fault for the first goal, did not see the third. Sigurdsson just strolled sround. Martina Jesus surely we have better reserves on the bench, Williams whatever he had he's lost it, should be Jags for the rest of the season. It was painful to watch, Spurs were so much better in every department, Koeman has spent a fortune and okay I can take a defeat, but we offered nothing, that was fucking shameful, felt sorry for our fans having to watch that shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 09, 2017, 11:12:30 PM
Criminal Davies & DCL sat there for the first half watching that along with the rest of us. And don't give me the old played only X amount of games/players have to get used to each other crap. Total shite.

Hoping for a big turnaround but can't see it with this team/manager. Sandro & Williams, blurgh!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 09, 2017, 11:13:10 PM
I feel like the life has been drained out of me after that, thanks for ruining my weekend Everton. Fucking hell.

THIS!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Mac934 on September 09, 2017, 11:14:14 PM
waste of time putting a bet on with ya lid, you'll be banned by xmas
Why will he be banned by Xmas? I thing he's right if we continue this form. You need to remove the blue tinted glasses off, pal.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluedylan on September 09, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
Glad I'm on nights and slept through that.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Buck76 on September 09, 2017, 11:15:34 PM
The fact that Martina gets anywhere near our squad says it all, he must have pictures of him banging his Mum.

We have absolutely no system of play never mind a plan B, how we've got Koeman & Walsh spending £140m with such an unbalanced squad full of No10's and fuck all else is criminal
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 11:16:40 PM
Fuck me, we look terrible.

What's the fucking plan? Get Martina on the ball loads for some reason? Whip the ball in for what?

Absolutely turgid, one paced football and comprehensively outclassed at home by a Spurs team that isn't even their strongest side.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 11:17:17 PM
Why will he be banned by Xmas? I thing he's right if we continue this form. You need to remove the blue tinted glasses off, pal.

let's see how we go when we play the rest of the shite teams in the league eh
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: pjk on September 09, 2017, 11:17:54 PM
Pretty bad, painful stuff that. It was grim. :(
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: blueToffee on September 09, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Fuck me, we look terrible.

What's the fucking plan? Get Martina on the ball loads for some reason? Whip the ball in for what?

Absolutely turgid, one paced football and comprehensively outclassed at home by a Spurs team that isn't even their strongest side.

Yeah, we're playing without a target man yet we're playing as if we had a target man to aim for.

Koeman needs a plan b here.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Mac934 on September 09, 2017, 11:21:48 PM
Yeah, we're playing without a target man yet we're playing as if we had a target man to aim for.

Koeman needs a plan b here.
Koeman needs a plan A!!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: mikey_blue on September 09, 2017, 11:28:51 PM
Trying to play width with no wingers, to make crosses to a striker who doesn't exist.

Concerning stuff this.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Redartin on September 09, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Really shit today, I am hoping part of the problem is simply new players still adjusting to playing for Everton but FFS, Koeman should have come up by now with some sort of settled style of play for us.

You also have to remember we have already played more competitive games than other teams due to the Europa Cup so if anything we should be more tuned in with each other, so I don't buy the team hasn't gelled yet argument. Eleven total strangers could have served as good as today's shite.
The majority of that team was Koeman's men and he got better out of the Martinez left overs last year.
Buck stops with the manager. For a renowned defender his defence was shite. I'm shocked at how disjointed and fucked up we are.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 11:35:02 PM
. Pickford saved us getting a hiding, but I thought at fault for the first goal

No way, it was a complete and utter fluke, and went right in the top corner.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Macca77 on September 09, 2017, 11:36:21 PM
Schooled by a quality team, simple really
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TheTone on September 09, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
Not that confident then are ya lad. Pathetic response

good lad
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 09, 2017, 11:46:22 PM
Schooled by a quality team, simple really

Macca, they are a quality team but we were absolute sh**e.  If Tottenham were at their worst we would have STILL lost 0-1 or 1-2 today.

We're not going to be able to say "well they will challenge for the title" will we when we concede in the 75th minute to Bournemouth will we.

Sorry for the negativity, but this match really got my alarm bells ringing.   
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Gash on September 09, 2017, 11:47:34 PM
No way, it was a complete and utter fluke, and went right in the top corner.

Aye, Kane's admitted it was a cross, Pickford's position wasn't actually too bad as he was expecting the cross so was in a position ready to come for it. Sometimes these things just happen.

It doesn't change anything from the rest of the performance.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 09, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
Aye, Kane's admitted it was a cross, Pickford's position wasn't actually too bad as he was expecting the cross so was in a position ready to come for it. Sometimes these things just happen.

It doesn't change anything from the rest of the performance.

Indeed.  Been anywhere from mediocre to absolutely dreadful all season
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Omar on September 09, 2017, 11:56:45 PM
We're shit, lids.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 09, 2017, 11:57:42 PM
Still early days of the season but us negative ppl look more and more right about our concerns. Strange that our quality manager didnt see it.

May become A hard season to survive for Koeman. But it is early days
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Redartin on September 09, 2017, 11:58:50 PM

Bring on Utd with their big 25 goal a season useless lump of a striker.

If we play like this again It'll be hard for him not to celebrate all the goals he'll score that day.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 09, 2017, 11:59:57 PM
Schooled by a quality team, simple really
Yes but none the less worrying, a total lack of any plan whatsoever, if this is what we can expect from Koeman tactically then we will be way lower in the league than last year, to manage the same position would be a miracle at this rate of deterioration. Only hope he will decide to start with the better team instead of when the games gone, wouldn't put money on it though, Bonkers.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 10, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
Koeman is tactically inept, 2 subs at half time again shows he's cocked up another starting 11, bet he blames the players too
I actually dislike Koeman as our manager more now than I did Martinez even at the end
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Mac934 on September 10, 2017, 12:08:03 AM
Koeman is tactically inept, 2 subs at half time again shows he's cocked up another starting 11, bet he blames the players too
I actually dislike Koeman as our manager more now than I did Martinez even at the end
That's exactly what I said earlier
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on September 10, 2017, 12:09:43 AM
Us, this season ...  :bonk: 

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: sam of the south on September 10, 2017, 12:10:38 AM
Bring on Utd with their big 25 goal a season useless lump of a striker.

If we play like this again It'll be hard for him not to celebrate all the goals he'll score that day.

He will definitely celebrate in a reserved manner.

He, very much like his new mentor Thierry Henry, likes to give off the image that he is all class, so he will do an 'understated celebration'.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 12:17:53 AM
Going to read this (currently) 46 page thread tomorrow when I need to sober up from the hangover I plan on causing in the next couple of hours :bonk:
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Macca77 on September 10, 2017, 12:18:51 AM
Macca, they are a quality team but we were absolute sh**e.  If Tottenham were at their worst we would have STILL lost 0-1 or 1-2 today.

We're not going to be able to say "well they will challenge for the title" will we when we concede in the 75th minute to Bournemouth will we.

Sorry for the negativity, but this match really got my alarm bells ringing.   

Yep, we folded as usual
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 10, 2017, 12:24:25 AM
Koeman is tactically inept, 2 subs at half time again shows he's cocked up another starting 11, bet he blames the players too
I actually dislike Koeman as our manager more now than I did Martinez even at the end
Ditto
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluebridge on September 10, 2017, 12:25:26 AM
Woeful performance, far too narrow and terrible team selection. I said when the fixtures came out I expect 5 points from 5 games, still on track, but I expected one of those points to come today.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bluenuck on September 10, 2017, 12:28:38 AM
miles behind...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 12:43:31 AM
Man U up next in the league.

Even Stoke giving them a real game tonight ...  We wont.

Lukaku hat-trick is a nap.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 10, 2017, 12:49:51 AM
Man U up next in the league.

Even Stoke giving them a real game tonight ... we wont.

Guess who's just scored
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 12:55:35 AM
2-2 Stoke showing everything we lack.
Fucking Stoke...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 10, 2017, 12:59:26 AM
Yeah, we're playing without a target man yet we're playing as if we had a target man to aim for.

Koeman needs a plan b here.

Plan B from Outer Space more likes. Wasn't Rooney supposed to be the target man at one point? Fuckin shambles.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 01:00:46 AM
I actually wasn't THAT worried after the first half because we weren't terrible for half an hour. We had plenty of the ball and without making any real chances we looked at least on the cusp of making a chance.

First goal fluke, second goal soft.

Then the second half comes and he makes two changes without speaking to either sub because they were both warming up, and throws the system out the window and tries to do something sort of in between the two systems we have and as you would expect we look confused and concerned and soft and Spurs get the pipe and slippers out.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: eame on September 10, 2017, 01:01:16 AM
WTF was that! sorry but that's I have got to say on the matter! No bastard MOTD tonight (cant even enjoy the redshite getting done 5-0) and no papers tomorrow....... cheers everton....
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ravardo on September 10, 2017, 01:01:41 AM
Koeman for barcalona :wanker:   What type of manager game after game keeps changing things and always leaves our best players on the bench,, maybe do it once but to keep doing it every game is fucking stupid
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: charlatan on September 10, 2017, 01:08:24 AM
2-2 Stoke showing everything we lack.
Fucking Stoke...

That little steg head dwarf is streets above anything we have.  Fucking stoke
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: gizzblue on September 10, 2017, 01:19:08 AM
Let's get man u out the way, then we will really see where we are playing the rest of the league ....Koeman does seem to be one of the biggest issues at times though .
How many times is he gonna have to scrap his gameplan(which the team doesn't know anyway) and sub at half time....
I've backed Klassen so far but he was annon today as we're a few......drop a dm (morgs) for an attacking player and go for it ffs. ...it can't be much worse than today.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Fynci on September 10, 2017, 01:43:39 AM
We've played 2nd, 3rd, and 5th so far, and in reality, those three teams will be up there in those places at the end of the season. It's not going to be overnight.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: American Evertonian on September 10, 2017, 01:48:20 AM
I'm not really sure what to make of this. We have a lot of new people players that clearly haven't gelled. We don't have a preferred formation nor an effective attacking gameplan.

We need time before we can judge but to say or play against the top clubs isn't concerning would be a lie
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on September 10, 2017, 01:52:10 AM
Anybody see any positives?? Now I've stopped kicking things I thought we were a lot better the last 20 minutes although that could well have been Spurs taking it easy.

Thought Vlasic had a few good moments, Baines was okay, DCL was keen, there was flashes of good football. That's it can't really think of anything else as it really could have been 5 or 6 nil.

I really hope Klassen comes good but so far he's been a passenger, early days though but my initial fear is he's going to be a bit of a Bilyaletdinov.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 10, 2017, 01:53:00 AM
Listen this is Spurs, at home, and we got comprehensively schooled. This isn't Man City who every player costs £50m. They achieve what they do because they have a good manager who is tactically astute and is a good coach.

The guy we have is a good middle of the road manager who hasn't achieved much in his managerial career who will help us cement 7th place by doing the basics right. He's not the man to take us to that next level. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: bluenuck on September 10, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
I actually wasn't THAT worried after the first half because we weren't terrible for half an hour. We had plenty of the ball and without making any real chances we looked at least on the cusp of making a chance.

First goal fluke, second goal soft.

Then the second half comes and he makes two changes without speaking to either sub because they were both warming up, and throws the system out the window and tries to do something sort of in between the two systems we have and as you would expect we look confused and concerned and soft and Spurs get the pipe and slippers out.

Serious question. what 2 systems do you see that we play?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 03:18:23 AM
Serious question. what 2 systems do you see that we play?

The city game way - DCL up top Rooney and AN other out wide, but Rooney drops as much as possible to get on the ball. Balls go long and into the channels for DCL. DCL chases second balls and forces throw ins to make yardage. We disrupt and tackle into gaining the ball in their half.

The other system is the one today where we try and get Sandro, Klaassen, Rooney gylfi all pushed up together so tight you could throw a blanket over them and try to play football ok the edge of their box. It's more measured and involved Schneiderlin having the ball in the middle of the pitch with Gueye going up and down.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 03:42:48 AM
Quote of the Day from a fan on the Echo site: "First time I've EVER left early in 23 years. That bad."
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 10, 2017, 03:43:02 AM
Listen this is Spurs, at home, and we got comprehensively schooled. This isn't Man City who every player costs £50m. They achieve what they do because they have a good manager who is tactically astute and is a good coach.

The guy we have is a good middle of the road manager who hasn't achieved much in his managerial career who will help us cement 7th place by doing the basics right. He's not the man to take us to that next level. In my opinion.
Poch inherited a decent squad with very good players and was able to keep them. He then had 30 goal-a-season striker come through the ranks. Also a £4m league one punt turned into a 20 goal-a season player. He's had time to mould what was already a decent team into a very good one. Koeman inherited an awful squad and the only decent players either wanted to leave or are on the decline. Zero continuity.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 03:48:52 AM
Quote of the Day from a fan on the Echo site: "First time I've EVER left early in 23 years. That bad."

Short memory then!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 03:49:02 AM
Listen this is Spurs, at home, and we got comprehensively schooled. This isn't Man City who every player costs £50m. They achieve what they do because they have a good manager who is tactically astute and is a good coach.

The guy we have is a good middle of the road manager who hasn't achieved much in his managerial career who will help us cement 7th place by doing the basics right. He's not the man to take us to that next level. In my opinion.

Spot on. Apart from a couple of decent seasons at Soton (with largely Pochettino's team) Koeman has done nothing as a manager.

Fans (and pundits) saying we need to spend a lot more money to get a good team and compete with the Top 6, need to look at Spurs. Its not expensive players we need, its a manager to get the best out of whoever we have...
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 03:50:29 AM
Poch inherited a decent squad with very good players and was able to keep them. He then had 30 goal-a-season striker come through the ranks. Also a £4m league one punt turned into a 20 goal-a season player. He's had time to mould what was already a decent team into a very good one. Koeman inherited an awful squad and the only decent players either wanted to leave or are on the decline. Zero continuity.

If they sold Kane and just played Jansen instead it'd be interesting to see how they'd cope.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 10, 2017, 03:52:53 AM
Had the board and Kenwright not fucked up in taking the easy option of recruiting Martinez instead of putting a bit of thought into getting a more experienced and accomplished manager then perhaps we might be a lot more closer or on a level keel to Spurs now. I believe Moyes left the next manager with a solid side all round to push further on.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 03:55:11 AM
Not to say that Pochettino hasn't done a great job of course.

But they haven't finished outside of top 6 since 2008/09.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 10, 2017, 03:57:55 AM
Had the board and Kenwright not fucked up in taking the easy option of recruiting Martinez instead of putting a bit of thought into getting a more experienced and accomplished manager then perhaps we might be a lot more closer or on a level keel to Spurs now. I believe Moyes left the next manager with a solid side all round to push further on.

Yes he did but the board couldn't take us to the next level by providing funds to sign "next level" players as they were too busy filling their own pockets.
Moyes performed miracles on a shoestring budget.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 04:10:22 AM
Not to say that Pochettino hasn't done a great job of course.

But they haven't finished outside of top 6 since 2008/09.

Wow is that true? Sobering.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: everton1952 on September 10, 2017, 04:13:54 AM
Koeman takes a lot of the blame. His team choice was bizarre. No width and no forward threat, the totally useless, out of their depth Sandro and Klassen, Sigurdsson lost on the wing, and a crowd of non-inventive midfielders all trying to do the same thing, i.e. pass sideways and backwards. Our confidence has taken a battering. If Spurs had tried hard enough they could have scored 9. The rest of the league is not great but we might struggle to make the top 10. The gap between us and the top 6 is huge in terms of ability. Early days of course, but tighten your seatbelts for a rough ride this season. Remember it is still transitional.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 04:16:27 AM
Wow is that true? Sobering.

09/10 4th
10/11 5th
11/12 4th
12/13 5th
13/14 6th
14/15 5th
15/16 3rd
16/17 2nd
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 04:18:11 AM
09/10 4th
10/11 5th
11/12 4th
12/13 5th
13/14 6th
14/15 5th
15/16 3rd
16/17 2nd

Brilliant stuff from Spurs POV.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 04:22:31 AM
Brilliant stuff from Spurs POV.

Yes.

Although they spent a lot of money prior to that for a long time.

Was always an argument re Kenwright thinking everything was ok budget wise as Moyes was keeping us up there.

They were likely to get it right managerially at some point (which was Redknapp) and we'd struggle to keep up.

They coincided with the City money and we've finished above Spurs once (13/14) since.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: ihatecollina on September 10, 2017, 04:40:12 AM
The pitch has been shortened lengthways and also width ways, to compensate for the lack of width I guess... no width, no pace, no height and no striker..... even I can see that.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Buck76 on September 10, 2017, 04:45:31 AM
If they sold Kane and just played Jansen instead it'd be interesting to see how they'd cope.

If they keep there wage structure both Kane & Alli will go & Levy will rinse it to offset the new stadium, not securing a striker before Lukaku left or the Neymar deal was a massive costly mistake and Our board was played by the Rooney marketing trade off like a bunch of ameutures.

Everyone knew replacing Lukaku was required before letting him go & maybe Giroud would have been here if so but the inept balance of the squad with such a massive outlay is crazy when we've got both Walsh and Koeman on top wedge to ensure we've quality cover for every position and a well oiled system of play with a decent Plan B for when our backs are against the wall.

It's like a 6yr old got hold of your Football Manager team banged in a cheat in & even then managed to fuck your squad & tactics up... Its an embarrassment when you see what the likes of Watford & Huddlesfield have done.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 10, 2017, 04:45:41 AM
The next person who thinks Koeman is waiting for the Barca job and will jump ship when it is offered needs to see a shrink, it will never happen, his next job will be Stoke or Hull
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 05:11:22 AM
Yes.

Although they spent a lot of money prior to that for a long time.

Was always an argument re Kenwright thinking everything was ok budget wise as Moyes was keeping us up there.

They were likely to get it right managerially at some point (which was Redknapp) and we'd struggle to keep up.

They coincided with the City money and we've finished above Spurs once (13/14) since.

Not the context to our relationship to Spurs that a great deal of blues would immediately think, I reckon.

That might be me being a bit of a knob but my impression of Spurs was that they had been alright but had bale, then spent a shit load and were shit for a bit (presumably with us being better), then about 3 years ago Kane started scoring and they signed alli and hired poch and they're now one of the best in the league.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 05:16:56 AM
Shearer telling it like it is on MOTD.. we were nowhere near them today.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 10, 2017, 05:49:46 AM
Shearer telling it like it is on MOTD.. we were nowhere near them today.



Shearers a thick cunt who can fuck off.

The only time he says anything is when it's fucking blindingly obvious.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 10, 2017, 06:03:09 AM
Shearer telling it like it is on MOTD.. we were nowhere near them today.

Could well just be blue tinted glasses but we were so awful today and at Chelsea that I don't think the opposition were that much of a factor. We beat ourselves.

It's different if you try your best and they outclass you but that wasn't the case in either match.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 07:16:05 AM
Could well just be blue tinted glasses but we were so awful today and at Chelsea that I don't think the opposition were that much of a factor. We beat ourselves.

It's different if you try your best and they outclass you but that wasn't the case in either match.

Well no because tbh I think against both they were in cruise control.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Shogun on September 10, 2017, 07:25:05 AM
Well no because tbh I think against both they were in cruise control.

Because we were terrible.

If we played like that against the majority of the division then we'd have probably lost yesterday.

It doesn't mean someone like Watford are a better side than us.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Omar on September 10, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
The next person who thinks Koeman is waiting for the Barca job and will jump ship when it is offered needs to see a shrink, it will never happen, his next job will be Stoke or Hull

So, is this where we've officially turned on Ron?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Lxxx on September 10, 2017, 10:43:40 AM
Shearers a thick cunt who can fuck off.

The only time he says anything is when it's fucking blindingly obvious.

Like today, when we were second best and it was blindingly obvious.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Confucius on September 10, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
How horrible was that. 30M on a keeper and gets beaten like that and at fault for the 2nd. He has been good so far but he does make some terrible errors.

It's really looks like money wasted thus far on most of the signings. Massively over priced.

Klassen does have some amazing close control though. Think there is a really good player there when we find the right spot for him. Sandro needs to just relax a little. He will get a goals for us. Worried about Siggurdson though.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 10, 2017, 12:22:01 PM
fuck off being a wum @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) , you're too obvious
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Confucius on September 10, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
fuck off being a wum @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) , you're too obvious

What's wrong with what I said. It's my opinion. Only you getting wound up. Maybe learn to relax and stop being a knob would help.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 10, 2017, 12:31:49 PM
Ok.... I was being sarcastic... as you are in your original post. You're not the type to jump to conclusions (usually), hence why I think you're looking for a reaction.
Title: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Confucius on September 10, 2017, 12:42:06 PM
No, just standing by my long held views. I didn't think spending the money on a goalie would make a massive difference and I am probably right on that one for this season at least. Pickford is going to be very good though or he can get there.

We have spent massively this season and I reckon it has given us false hope and expectation. We not very good and we haven't bought very well. We have bought decent players but it seems with very little thought behind it.

I have the feeling Walsh and Koeman do not gel very well.

Oh and I really don't like Koeman. I modelled how I played as a kid on him. He was my hero, my idol. Loved the guy but absolutely can't stand him now. Nothing about him is Everton. I can't put my finger on it but he is not ever going to work for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Jamokachi on September 10, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
Pickford has already made saves I expect Robles to be incapable of. Beaten by a fluke of a shot yesterday, taking up a position to deal with a cross... as was everyone else on the pitch. Not sure what he's meant to do with the second. He made the initial save, after Martina allowed the shot to come in. He had nowhere safe to push it too. He's a better keeper than what we had, and will go on to be 10 times the keeper of either of our other options.

We have spent massively, in comparison to what we usually do. But the way prices are, we've only bought middle of the road players. We can't really accuse the club of overpaying in a market that exploded over night.

I'm not liking Koeman at the moment either, but I'm sure I'll be back on side once I see a few decent performances. He's not for the long haul anyway, so I'll take him making us tougher than we were under Martinez and steady improvement.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 10, 2017, 02:05:01 PM
Like today, when we were second best and it was blindingly obvious.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: oztoffee on September 10, 2017, 02:52:56 PM
I don't think any of the players were dreadful, I just think they were totally lost, rudderless. There was obviously little in the way of game plan and the lack of players running into space was criminal....Keane looked for someone to pass to and all he saw were players' backs or players standing next to Spud players with no intention of moving. He held his arms out in despair, as I did. This should be in players' veins at this stage of their careers, FFS I was coaching 11 year olds this stuff!
No wonder we play sideways and backwards so much, there's no f***er to pass to!
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Realist on September 10, 2017, 02:59:23 PM
I don't think any of the players were dreadful, I just think they were totally lost, rudderless. There was obviously little in the way of game plan and the lack of players running into space was criminal....Keane looked for someone to pass to and all he saw were players' backs or players standing next to Spud players with no intention of moving. He held his arms out in despair, as I did. This should be in players' veins at this stage of their careers, FFS I was coaching 11 year olds this stuff!
No wonder we play sideways and backwards so much, there's no f***er to pass to!

Cuco Martina put in one of the worse performances I've seen in a while
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Ramjam on September 10, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
So, is this where we've officially turned on Ron?

I wouldn't say that we've turned on him but he is on notice, his management style stinks, he has no game plan as he chops and changes his team each week with no clear direction or style of play, he is arrogant, rude and a self centred cunt who has no love for Everton football club, he is an employee who has had just about everything his own way since he arrived here with no obvious improvement so it's time he showed his worth with HIS team/players wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 03:38:47 PM
I wouldn't say that we've turned on him but he is on notice, his management style stinks, he has no game plan as he chops and changes his team each week with no clear direction or style of play, he is arrogant, rude and a self centred cunt who has no love for Everton football club, he is an employee who has had just about everything his own way since he arrived here with no obvious improvement so it's time he showed his worth with HIS team/players wouldn't you agree?

On notice?

He did as expected last year and this year is very early on, with a whole new attack and difficult fixtures.

Even with that we got through to the groups of the EL, even if as expected, so I don't think any sort of wild judgements are reasonable at all.

And we have improved from what we were like before he came in.

Again, as expected, but it shouldn't be made out that he's not done what was initially asked of him.

The debate is whether we can move beyond 7th but the club won't be making that decision now.

Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Bluedylan on September 10, 2017, 03:51:23 PM
On notice?

He did as expected last year and this year is very early on, with a whole new attack and difficult fixtures.

Even with that we got through to the groups of the EL, even if as expected, so I don't think any sort of wild judgements are reasonable at all.

And we have improved from what we were like before he came in.

Again, as expected, but it shouldn't be made out that he's not done what was initially asked of him.

The debate is whether we can move beyond 7th but the club won't be making that decision now.



I respect your opinion and the sense of perspective and context you provide.

Purely as a hypothetical, if you were offered the chance to replace Koeman with say Tuchel (as a random example, not saying it would happen) tomorrow with minimal fuss, would you take it?
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: pjk on September 10, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
I just want to forget about what I saw at Goodison yesterday.  Surely we can't play that badly, two games running. "Now where's that Atalanta thread". :)
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 10, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
On notice?

He did as expected last year and this year is very early on, with a whole new attack and difficult fixtures.

Even with that we got through to the groups of the EL, even if as expected, so I don't think any sort of wild judgements are reasonable at all.

And we have improved from what we were like before he came in.

Again, as expected, but it shouldn't be made out that he's not done what was initially asked of him.

The debate is whether we can move beyond 7th but the club won't be making that decision now.



The problem is that people think we've built the wrong team. It's not about hard fixtures or time. It's about pace, width, balance and a striker

Now we might be wrong and we might be about to reinvent football with 4 10s and no striker but my issue isn't about the performances so far. My issue is I really don't see how it will not continue. We've been poor almost every half. Time won't fix our problems. We need another transfer window. We need another 4 players minimum (for our first 11) and mainly that's more in terms of balance than quality
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: Everton Mint on September 10, 2017, 05:12:27 PM
Shearers a thick cunt who can fuck off.

The only time he says anything is when it's fucking blindingly obvious.

Rather take his opinion than yours kid.

He made no excuses for the hard fixtures or the team having to gel. He said we were awful and gave them too much time and space which is inexcusable at this level. And he said it should've been 7 or 8 which was right as 3 didnt relfect the game.

All he said needed saying as Koeman didnt admit to any of that.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 06:01:00 PM
I respect your opinion and the sense of perspective and context you provide.

Purely as a hypothetical, if you were offered the chance to replace Koeman with say Tuchel (as a random example, not saying it would happen) tomorrow with minimal fuss, would you take it?

Well just on Tuchel I really wanted him in before Martinez.

I suppose issues at Dortmund cloud that as a no brainer option.

In general it's no different to players in that if there's someone better available you upgrade.

If the options are "not sures" then the current encumbent should get the appropriate time to succeed or fail.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 06:02:31 PM
The problem is that people think we've built the wrong team. It's not about hard fixtures or time. It's about pace, width, balance and a striker

Now we might be wrong and we might be about to reinvent football with 4 10s and no striker but my issue isn't about the performances so far. My issue is I really don't see how it will not continue. We've been poor almost every half. Time won't fix our problems. We need another transfer window. We need another 4 players minimum (for our first 11) and mainly that's more in terms of balance than quality

Well he wanted a striker so the issue there isn't his fault.
Title: Re: Everton v Spurs
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 10, 2017, 06:57:41 PM
I just want to forget about what I saw at Goodison yesterday.  Surely we can't play that badly, two games running. "Now where's that Atalanta thread". :)


im sure we've done the 2 game spell already this season, dreading facing Atlanta, most of the best Italian players along with most of the under 20 upto the under 23s come from Atlantas youth system.

we are going to get royally fucked V Atlanta.
:(