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Title: The ITK Thread 2013/14 sponsored by FootballITK.com (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 08, 2013, 11:44:12 PM
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To keep this a little more organised this time around this thread will just be for information from sources deemed reliable, all rumours/paper talk can go in the rumours thread.

NEWS:
- David Moyes leaving Everton at the end of the season. (CONFIRMED) (Shorty correct)
- International Champions Cup (USA) announced featuring Everton, Real Madrid, Chelsea and Benfica among others. (CONFIRMED) (Shorty Correct)
- Everton agree compensation with Wigan for Manager Roberto Martinez.
- Roberto Martinez appointed Everton Manager on 4 year contract. (CONFIRMED) (LCAB+THT Correct, Fourth Official Half Right) (THT+LCAB Called First)
- Everton sign Arouna Kone. (CONFIRMED) (LCAB+THT Correct)
- Everton sign Antolin Alcaraz (CONFIRMED) (LCAB/THT and Fourth Official Correct)
- Everton sign Joel Robles (CONFIRMED) (Fourth Official Correct)
- Everton sign Gerard Deulofeu on loan. (Fourth Official Correct)

Fourth Official:
- Martinez should be confirmed as Everton manager tomorrow. (3rd June)
- Everton in advanced talks over a loan for Joel Robles.
- Antolin Alcaraz arrived at Finch Farm to finalise move.
- Everton to sign Gerard Deulofeu on loan from Barcelona.
- Alderweireld to Everton is likely based on Everton offloading Heitinga.
- Everton will sign Gareth Barry on loan.
- Everton and United agree fee for Fellaini.
Correct: 3.5  Incorrect: 0.5   (Right name in Martinez, wrong date.)

LCAB + THT:
- Indicated Martinez is the most likely for the Everton job but that could change.
- Martinez's job to knock back
- Kone, McGeady and Alcaraz nearly done. (2 out of 3 signed, subject to change)
- Repeatedly insisting baines and Fellaini will be sold.
Correct: 2  Incorrect: 0

Shorty:
- Moyes gone.
- Says Everton will be involved in Pre-Season tournament in the States with Real Madrid, Chelsea and Benfica.
Correct: 2  Incorrect: 0

SoS1878:
- British Manager approached, not Neville or Lennon.
Correct: 0  Incorrect: 1

NSNO:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 08, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
Yay
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 08, 2013, 11:50:12 PM
Yay

Thought you'd be thrilled ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Grand Master C on May 09, 2013, 12:26:47 AM
I would have waited until the Man U job was sorted mate. Could be a busy few days for you !!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 09, 2013, 12:39:56 AM
Wasn't Fourth Official told by Everton to stop tweeting the information he had. I am sure he said during January he couldn't tell us anything any more.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
Wasn't Fourth Official told by Everton to stop tweeting the information he had. I am sure he said during January he couldn't tell us anything any more.

Well we shall see, if that turns out to be the case I'll remove him and maybe stick Merro back in or see if there's anyone else.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 12:55:55 AM
First thing from Shorty is that Moyes is gone.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2013, 01:03:27 AM
First thing from Shorty is that Moyes is gone.

What did he say?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 01:06:12 AM
What did he say?

That's all I can post.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2013, 01:12:35 AM
That's all I can post.

Cocktease
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 09, 2013, 01:15:56 AM
Kenwright best have a new manager sorted out within a month so we can actually start preparation for next season.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 09, 2013, 01:24:08 AM
Kenwright best have a new manager sorted out within a month so we can actually start preparation for next season.

More like 1 week
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2013, 01:33:30 AM
Anything said about Lennon by Shorty?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 09, 2013, 01:37:01 AM
Will Shorty be new manager?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2013, 01:37:50 AM
Well we shall see, if that turns out to be the case I'll remove him and maybe stick Merro back in or see if there's anyone else.

Not Merro!he said a few months ago that Moyes was definitely staying
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2013, 01:40:24 AM
Well we shall see, if that turns out to be the case I'll remove him and maybe stick Merro back in or see if there's anyone else.

There is no one else.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Do we get anything from anyone these days?

Fourth Official just winds up opposition fans and posts bet selections

Lcab tells us something after it happens because if he tells us before then it will put the deal in jeopardy

Greg Okeefe is usually the best source I think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2013, 01:48:21 AM
Do we get anything from anyone these days?

Fourth Official just winds up opposition fans and posts bet selections

Lcab tells us something after it happens because if he tells us before then it will put the deal in jeopardy

Greg Okeefe is usually the best source I think

Been saying this for a year man. No need for an ITK thread, might aswell just sticky a rumours thread
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 02:27:04 AM
Been saying this for a year man. No need for an ITK thread, might aswell just sticky a rumours thread

Fourth Official had a 100% hit rate last time out. Shorty wasn't far off and the others occasionaly contribute too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 02:27:19 AM
There is no one else.

You never know, a new one might emerge.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 09, 2013, 09:29:48 AM
Been saying this for a year man. No need for an ITK thread, might aswell just sticky a rumours thread
Like the one I made the day...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueski on May 09, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
First thing from Shorty is that Moyes is gone.
did I miss something?

Shorty's last post on the forum is listed as being in October
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cods on May 09, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
Will Shorty be new manager?
Not so soon after winning POTY at Huddersfield, surely?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
did I miss something?

Shorty's last post on the forum is listed as being in October

probably posts in the subscribers forum.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueski on May 09, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
probably posts in the subscribers forum.
http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5;sa=showPosts (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5;sa=showPosts)

nothing here
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Shorty posts in the subscribers forum
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2013, 08:02:38 PM
can we add @sos1878 to this?  just for a laugh like?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5;sa=showPosts (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5;sa=showPosts)

nothing here
won't show unless you're a subscriber mate.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 09, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
can we add @sos1878 to this?  just for a laugh like?

Please do
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 08:56:11 PM
can we add @sos1878 to this?  just for a laugh like?

Will do
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 09, 2013, 08:58:00 PM
Can people post in here whatever they tweet though, don't follow them and don't wish to.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
do we get onto the list as a site too?  we did say that Bill would make a statement today about it...and he did

mind you, we did just copy from Shorty's post!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2013, 09:08:33 PM
Can people post in here whatever they tweet though, don't follow them and don't wish to.
b
British manager lined up and we think we have our man
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Soul Stylist on May 09, 2013, 10:21:07 PM
British manager lined up

Malky Mackay?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 09, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
b
British manager lined up and we think we have our man

Tease.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2013, 11:16:14 PM
That is what sos said not me
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: macko on May 10, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
b
British manager lined up and we think we have our man
Probably another "watch this space" moment.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 10, 2013, 01:58:11 PM
New Manchester United manager David Moyes wants to make 25-year-old Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini his first signing at Old Trafford.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-david-moyes-1879166 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-david-moyes-1879166)


Moyes wants to sign Fellaini and left-back Leighton Baines, 28, from Everton in a potential £39m double deal.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4921521/David-Moyes-in-raid-for-Leighton-Baines-and-Marouane-Fellaini.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4921521/David-Moyes-in-raid-for-Leighton-Baines-and-Marouane-Fellaini.html)


Everton will block any attempts from Moyes to sign Baines but Fellaini's contract contains a release clause

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10047954/Everton-adamant-that-Leighton-Baines-will-not-follow-David-Moyes-to-Manchester-United.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10047954/Everton-adamant-that-Leighton-Baines-will-not-follow-David-Moyes-to-Manchester-United.html)


The press will have a field day with this kinda shit.


Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 10, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
Lazy journalism at it's best.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 10, 2013, 02:24:37 PM
Tony Barrett from the Times says Everton neither want nor need to sell Leighton Baines
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 10, 2013, 02:36:06 PM
Tony Barrett from the Times says Everton neither want nor need to sell Leighton Baines

More to the point, I don't think Baines wants to leave.

Fellain's getting to be a bit of a loose cannon lately and could see himself in the shit more often than not. Cash in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
That Everton arnt we fella, is he reliable? I fucking hope not

Cos he mentioned the two dreaded words........................ .....................Steve Bruce  :shock:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on May 10, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
That Everton arnt we fella, is he reliable? I fucking hope not

Cos he mentioned the two dreaded words........................ .....................Steve Bruce  :shock:

to be fair to him, he got a text two months ago about this whole moyes/fergie situation
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 10, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
Steve Bruce gets filed under "fuck off" along with Hughes and Lennon.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 10, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130510/exclusive-cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-approached-about-replacing-ever-1973 (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130510/exclusive-cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-approached-about-replacing-ever-1973)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 10, 2013, 05:08:14 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130510/exclusive-cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-approached-about-replacing-ever-1973 (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130510/exclusive-cardiff-city-boss-malky-mackay-approached-about-replacing-ever-1973)

Talksport had Neville offered and accepted last night.

They pluck things out the sky working in the hope that one comes right and they can say they broke the story.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 10, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
Given that though he would be right up there with my choice of manager..

He works with the defence like moyes and makes his teams hard to beat. Maybe not the sexy football but we would be in safe hands no doubt about it. Rather him than Lennon
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 10, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
Think Neville would be a great assistant but he's said he wants to play on for another year
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2013, 09:17:01 PM
Fourth official has just put twenty quid on That Porto guy
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on May 10, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
Fourth official has just put twenty quid on That Porto guy

what's he having for tea?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 10, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
Fourth official has just put twenty quid on That Porto guy

lost that straight away then

sos1878 say it's a British guy
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 10, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
I take it SOS are a bit like Talksport, throw out enough punts and eventually you might get one right?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 10, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Is that sos1878 a decent soure?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 10, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Apparently Porto guy will accept job if offered
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Heisenberg on May 10, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
probably bullshit, but was just having a read through cardiff forums. And someone who claims to be an everton shareholder reckons were about to be taken over

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112615&start=60 (http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112615&start=60)
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 10, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
"everton no bigger than us"

Wow
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 10, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
Apparently Porto guy will accept job if offered

where's that from?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 10, 2013, 09:57:03 PM
"everton no bigger than us"

Wow

You have to wonder sometimes!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2013, 09:57:11 PM
Can tell its a Welsh forum, the avatars are on the right
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Heisenberg on May 10, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
"everton no bigger than us"

Wow
To be fair most seem to have shot the OP down and only had good things to say about us
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 10, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
To be fair most seem to have shot the OP down and only had good things to say about us
i read the title and shut it down
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 10, 2013, 10:00:57 PM
Can tell its a Welsh forum, the avatars are on the right

I don't know why, but I  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
Fourth official is being such a cocktease today
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 10, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
Fourth official is being such a cocktease today

Why?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 10, 2013, 11:04:28 PM
How the hell is sos an itk source?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 10, 2013, 11:05:59 PM
How the hell is sos an itk source?
if mckay gets it they were in the right ball park..... it was a big ball park mind
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on May 10, 2013, 11:09:02 PM
someone get into contact with that welsh fella on the Cardiff forum saying we're being taken over haha
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 10, 2013, 11:12:07 PM
If we were getting taken over then I don't think we'd get Malky... So we are not getting bought
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 10, 2013, 11:45:41 PM
If we were gonna be taken over I'm pretty sure moyes would of signed a contract and also thought twice about leaving if it was a big takeover.

We won't ever be taken over until bill gets too old and one of the others mates buys his shares as an investment never to invest a penny into the club. Forever!!!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 11, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
If we were gonna be taken over I'm pretty sure moyes would of signed a contract and also thought twice about leaving if it was a big takeover.

We won't ever be taken over until bill gets too old and one of the others mates buys his shares as an investment never to invest a penny into the club. Forever!!!
take over or not moyes was going the second man u asked
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on May 11, 2013, 12:21:08 AM
"Everton representatives enroute to Portugal. Heard it here first."

https://www.facebook.com/lfcvefcbanterpage?ref=stream (https://www.facebook.com/lfcvefcbanterpage?ref=stream)

Efc vs Lfc banter page.  Posted by an admin.  Probably on the wind up
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 11, 2013, 05:14:44 PM
"Everton representatives enroute to Portugal. Heard it here first."

https://www.facebook.com/lfcvefcbanterpage?ref=stream (https://www.facebook.com/lfcvefcbanterpage?ref=stream)

Efc vs Lfc banter page.  Posted by an admin.  Probably on the wind up

In with "...still trying to complete the Moutinho deal..."!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 13, 2013, 08:50:51 PM
Verm, Lcab is pretty much saying Martinez is first choice. Well thats what I have deciphered from his tweets anyway
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Verm, Lcan is pretty much saying Martinez is first choice. Well thats what I have deciphered from his tweets anyway
Aye seen that too. Paul Daly said Stubbs and big dunc yday. Lots of people saying they have heard Stubbs
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 13, 2013, 09:07:04 PM
Aye seen that too. Paul Daly said Stubbs and big dunc yday. Lots of people saying they have heard Stubbs

Ive heard people say its definitely Neville, definitely Stubbs, Definitely Martinez, Definitely McKay, definitely Duncan...so Im guessing no one actually knows!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Ive heard people say its definitely Neville, definitely Stubbs, Definitely Martinez, Definitely McKay, definitely Duncan...so Im guessing no one actually knows!
reading and seeing bk speak its pretty certain that he doesn't know
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: pjk on May 13, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Aye seen that too. Paul Daly said Stubbs and big dunc yday. Lots of people saying they have heard Stubbs




I'm not pouring cold water over any of our current youth and reserve coaches. But, none of them have any experience other than Alan Irvine. And maybe Steve Round, has had a fair bit of experience as a number two, and that's it. Stubbs and Duncan would be a huge gamble. Not for me but..... maybe that will happen? I personally don't have enough confidence in them.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 14, 2013, 02:42:27 AM
Lcab tweeted earlier 'its Martinez as we speak,but things can change I guess'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 14, 2013, 02:43:58 AM
Lcab tweeted earlier 'its Martinez as we speak,but things can change I guess'

Added
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 14, 2013, 03:10:57 AM
Lcab tweeted earlier 'its Martinez as we speak,but things can change I guess'

What a great way to non commit yourself...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on May 14, 2013, 03:29:30 AM
If Wigan don't beat the Arse tomorrow they are relegated. Then I expect the odds on Martinez to be slashed.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 14, 2013, 06:32:32 AM
If Wigan don't beat the Arse tomorrow they are relegated. Then I expect the odds on Martinez to be slashed.

There are a few Wigan players i wouldn't mind taking, however if they are relegated i have no interest in Martinez at all.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: .Rimbo. on May 14, 2013, 09:02:16 AM
Apparently Porto guy will accept job if offered

Can you substantiate this claim?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 14, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
Can you substantiate this claim?

I will endeavour to find the snippet I read and post a link
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on May 14, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
anyone who goes unbeaten in any league must be decent, I want this porto guy
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Twainy on May 14, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
There are a few Wigan players i wouldn't mind taking, however if they are relegated i have no interest in Martinez at all.

Why would you look at it like that?
If Wigan stay up it will be by the skin of their teeth so it wouldn't make any real difference to Martinez ability would it?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 15, 2013, 06:01:50 AM
Why would you look at it like that?
If Wigan stay up it will be by the skin of their teeth so it wouldn't make any real difference to Martinez ability would it?

I just think he put them there if he can't fix his mistakes i don't want him. If he makes these mistakes at Everton whos to say he would be able to pull it out of his arse and fix them here? I think he is a man who has gotten very lucky keeping Wigan up over the past few seasons. I personally don't want him here.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2013, 06:27:26 AM
Lcab tweeted earlier 'its Martinez as we speak,but things can change I guess'

Ask Lcab if things have changed?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
Not sure if right thread but: @TheEFCForum: Everton in pole position for Lukaku loan: Romelu Lukaku will hold showdown talks with Chelsea next week
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2013, 09:50:16 PM
surely we wouldn't be signing people without a manager though?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
But if its Lukaka then why not.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: buededw1 on May 15, 2013, 09:59:58 PM
sign that big mo fo up!!!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on May 16, 2013, 01:50:45 AM
I was also thinking about this (no manager) thingy and at first I thought there's no way the club is going to sign anyone. Then I got thinking that maybe, just maybe, Moyes's plans for preseason were advanced enough that he had identified some targets and the club has decided to go ahead with them if the chance arises.

But most probably all these links are made up bullshit.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on May 16, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
We'll not buy anyone til a new manager is in. Any funds we have are an important part of the package to a new boss.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 16, 2013, 05:56:35 AM
well it can't hurt to get it  talks with prospective signing in the mean time.
I doubt we'll actually sign anyone while we have no manager, but at least when we get one he'll have the choice to go ahead with the signing or to call it off.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
We didn't sign players quickly with a manager.

Is it feasible that we'd line deals up without one?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Toddacelli on May 16, 2013, 01:03:02 PM
We didn't sign players quickly with a manager.

Is it feasible that we'd line deals up without one?

Depends on who it is who's actually calling the shots and doing the buying behind closed doors.

But I'm inclined to agree with you.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 16, 2013, 04:24:50 PM
surely we wouldn't be signing people without a manager though?

Depends on the player. For some, if we flash enough cash that is enough to sign. For the more conscientious player Id like to think they'd want to know whos going to be managing them before they commit.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: 74Blue on May 16, 2013, 08:24:35 PM
Or could it even be that we have someone lined up to take over and he has already told the club who he wants to bring in.
The Lukaku deal only looks to be a loan deal so even without someone in place it's not beyond the realms of possibility. No real dent in the transfer budget apart from wages for the services of a quality young striker whom most mangers would take for the season.
Could also be something to do with the Fellaini situation staying/going, a makeweight in his move to Chelsea perhaps or another Belgian in to try to keep him here a little longer? Is it Lukaku or Benteke who refers to him as my boy Fellaini on Twitter. I think he's quite good mates with at least one of them.
Would be awesome to have a completely Belgian frontline of Mirallas, Benteke and Lukaku for next season. Unfortunately the financial situation at Everton means that it's never going to happen.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 16, 2013, 09:17:06 PM
Or could it even be that we have someone lined up to take over and he has already told the club who he wants to bring in.
The Lukaku deal only looks to be a loan deal so even without someone in place it's not beyond the realms of possibility. No real dent in the transfer budget apart from wages for the services of a quality young striker whom most mangers would take for the season.
Could also be something to do with the Fellaini situation staying/going, a makeweight in his move to Chelsea perhaps or another Belgian in to try to keep him here a little longer? Is it Lukaku or Benteke who refers to him as my boy Fellaini on Twitter. I think he's quite good mates with at least one of them.
Would be awesome to have a comepletely Belgian frontline of Mirallas, Benteke and Lukaku for next season. Unfortunately the financial situation at Everton means that it's never going to happen.

Benteke x
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 16, 2013, 09:23:03 PM
Apparently interested in McGeady: http://izvestia.ru/news/550300 (http://izvestia.ru/news/550300)
According to "Izvestia", the services of an Irish footballer currently interested in several English clubs. The most actively manifest themselves in this matter, "Everton" and "Aston Villa", ready to pay about € 1,5 footballer million a year, which is less than half its current salary in "Spartacus."

Valued at €7.5M, but only has a year left on his contract. And he's currently serving a 6-game ban for kicking a player, then making an obscene gesture. Always seems like a bit of a hothead to me.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Heisenberg on May 16, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
 lolol what was the obscene gesture
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 16, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
lolol what was the obscene gesture

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/european/2013/0510/391485-mcgeady-ban/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/european/2013/0510/391485-mcgeady-ban/)

Not sure. Reacted poorly to a challenge and got sent off, made the gesture/swore at fans, and battered the dressing room door.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 16, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/european/2013/0510/391485-mcgeady-ban/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/european/2013/0510/391485-mcgeady-ban/)

Not sure. Reacted poorly to a challenge and got sent off, made the gesture/swore at fans, and battered the dressing room door.
http://balls.ie/football/aiden-mcgeady-trashes-dressing-room-gets-banned/ (http://balls.ie/football/aiden-mcgeady-trashes-dressing-room-gets-banned/)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 17, 2013, 12:46:05 AM
lolol what was the obscene gesture

Claiming he was a professional football player!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 17, 2013, 07:03:14 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8717705/Transfer-news-A-mystery-Premier-League-club-have-made-a-bid-for-Porto-s-Christian-Atsu (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8717705/Transfer-news-A-mystery-Premier-League-club-have-made-a-bid-for-Porto-s-Christian-Atsu)

Sky Sports understands an unnamed Premier League club have tabled an offer for Porto winger Christian Atsu.

Atsu has been linked with a move to the Premier League for some time with the likes of Tottenham and Everton credited with an interest in the Ghana international in the past.

Now an unnamed top six Premier League side have lodged an offer to Porto for the highly-rated attacker, and the Portuguese club are set to sit down and discuss the bid.

Atsu has found himself out of favour at Porto in recent months after refusing to sign a new deal at Estadio do Dragao.

Porto were keen to tie down Atsu to a new deal with the player entering the final year of his contract, but both parties have been unable to agree terms.

Sources close to Atsu claim the African is keen to play in England and he is ready to leave Porto for a fresh start this summer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
Had him on Fifa, wasnt impressed. Would stay clear if I was Stubbs
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 17, 2013, 07:10:15 PM
Can he be player manager?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: fast lane on May 17, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
We won't be getting Stefan de Vrij, the Feyenoord defender whom we have been linked with several times.
He has just signed a new conttract with the Rotterdam club.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Brownie20 on May 18, 2013, 05:28:31 AM
Mirror reporting we are after young Lazio midfielder Ozani. 2.5m
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 18, 2013, 05:33:32 AM
Mirror reporting we are after young Lazio midfielder Ozani. 2.5m

Hardly played for Lazio this season. He is very small as well. Might be worth a punt at under 3 mill though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2013, 05:34:15 AM
Mirror reporting we are after young Lazio midfielder Ozani. 2.5m

I know you're only passing on info, so I'm not having a pop at you at all, but surely all transfer rumours are without substance when nobody even has a clue who the new manager is.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Brownie20 on May 18, 2013, 05:41:05 AM
Yeah I know. Just thought it would be better posting it in here than starting a new thread.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: phillyt on May 18, 2013, 07:13:05 AM
I know you're only passing on info, so I'm not having a pop at you at all, but surely all transfer rumours are without substance when nobody even has a clue who the new manager is.

Maybe the club know who it is. And he sent them to sort some purchases out for the new season. Maybe to distract us from the utter shitness of the new boss.

If they announce s new "interested party" over the weekend expect stubbs to be named boss on Sunday/monday.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on May 18, 2013, 09:19:19 PM
Lcab tweeted earlier 'its Martinez as we speak,but things can change I guess'

What a great way to non commit yourself...


That's LCAB all over im afraid. Claims to know his stuff with Everton, what players were in for and things, but his best catchphrase is he 'cant say who cos he could jeopardise the deal!'.

Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 18, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
Lcab has basically said its martinez job to reject
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 19, 2013, 01:16:11 AM
Lcab has basically said its martinez job to reject

He also seemingly said every Everton fan on any forum is a total bellend!apart from you and Silas! :)

(I agree that you and Silas are boss though, just not the first part  :thumbsup:)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 19, 2013, 02:02:53 AM
He also seemingly said every Everton fan on any forum is a total bellend!apart from you and Silas! :)

(I agree that you and Silas are boss though, just not the first part  :thumbsup:)
ha ha he got pure grief on got for being "itk" then he tried here and got hounded out in an hour or so (didn't help himself there like) so now has his own web site
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 19, 2013, 02:05:54 AM
Had him on Fifa, wasnt impressed. Would stay clear if I was Stubbs

got a laugh out of me this lad.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 19, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
ha ha he got pure grief on got for being "itk" then he tried here and got hounded out in an hour or so (didn't help himself there like) so now has his own web site

he was on GOT for a couple of years and was banned several times in those couple of years for making an arse of himself

if you know your history and all that....
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 19, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
he was on GOT for a couple of years and was banned several times in those couple of years for making an arse of himself

if you know your history and all that....
ha ha yeah he does get excited like
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on May 19, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
Now this would be interesting (Asbo is Rooney for anyone who doesn't know) but I don't know what the issue is with Alan Balls family


David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
Can I just say,got a call from someone last night-who's opinion I TRUST BUT whom had been on the Ale in London sayin Asbo CRYIN to come home

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@bluemonkey1878 Money's not the issue ./ Theyl pay more for Screechio. I just tht it was 18 mth too soon

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@PaulDaly90 HE APOLOGISES to @jimmyball8 @KeelyAllan AN Mandy , AN Pauline AN US , THEN , WE'LL TALK ... NOT BEFORE btw

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  58m 
@jquinners Nah . the WAY I heard it was , He WANTS TO , BK is DESPERATE or SOME fukn Rabbit to be in that Hat ... Its not impossible
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on May 19, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
Now this would be interesting (Asbo is Rooney for anyone who doesn't know) but I don't know what the issue is with Alan Balls family


David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
Can I just say,got a call from someone last night-who's opinion I TRUST BUT whom had been on the Ale in London sayin Asbo CRYIN to come home

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@bluemonkey1878 Money's not the issue ./ Theyl pay more for Screechio. I just tht it was 18 mth too soon

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@PaulDaly90 HE APOLOGISES to @jimmyball8 @KeelyAllan AN Mandy , AN Pauline AN US , THEN , WE'LL TALK ... NOT BEFORE btw

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  58m 
@jquinners Nah . the WAY I heard it was , He WANTS TO , BK is DESPERATE or SOME fukn Rabbit to be in that Hat ... Its not impossible


Wouldnt say no to Rooney coming back at all but it will always come down to the very important thing in football and Everton, money!. And money we havent got!. I dont think at this stage in his career, he would take a massive cut to come to us, not when the likes of PSG & Monaco will throw money at him!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on May 19, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
Don't believe for a simple reason: Stretford. He doesn't have many clients left & want to maximise his income from Rooney. So he's not going to accept a massive pay-cut.

Fact is that if Rooney would play for the sort of money Everton can pay for a player (well under 100k pw), he would be a massive signing. It doesn't matter he's not quite as good as he used be, he can still win matches on his own.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on May 19, 2013, 07:55:41 PM

Wouldnt say no to Rooney coming back at all but it will always come down to the very important thing in football and Everton, money!. And money we havent got!. I dont think at this stage in his career, he would take a massive cut to come to us, not when the likes of PSG & Monaco will throw money at him!.

Or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or City, or Spur.... And that's just in this country.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 19, 2013, 08:51:26 PM
Now this would be interesting (Asbo is Rooney for anyone who doesn't know) but I don't know what the issue is with Alan Balls family


David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
Can I just say,got a call from someone last night-who's opinion I TRUST BUT whom had been on the Ale in London sayin Asbo CRYIN to come home

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@bluemonkey1878 Money's not the issue ./ Theyl pay more for Screechio. I just tht it was 18 mth too soon

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@PaulDaly90 HE APOLOGISES to @jimmyball8 @KeelyAllan AN Mandy , AN Pauline AN US , THEN , WE'LL TALK ... NOT BEFORE btw

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  58m 
@jquinners Nah . the WAY I heard it was , He WANTS TO , BK is DESPERATE or SOME fukn Rabbit to be in that Hat ... Its not impossible

He does my fucking nut in.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bally on May 19, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
Now this would be interesting (Asbo is Rooney for anyone who doesn't know) but I don't know what the issue is with Alan Balls family


David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
Can I just say,got a call from someone last night-who's opinion I TRUST BUT whom had been on the Ale in London sayin Asbo CRYIN to come home

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@bluemonkey1878 Money's not the issue ./ Theyl pay more for Screechio. I just tht it was 18 mth too soon

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  1h 
@PaulDaly90 HE APOLOGISES to @jimmyball8 @KeelyAllan AN Mandy , AN Pauline AN US , THEN , WE'LL TALK ... NOT BEFORE btw

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  58m 
@jquinners Nah . the WAY I heard it was , He WANTS TO , BK is DESPERATE or SOME fukn Rabbit to be in that Hat ... Its not impossible

As far as I make out his obsession with the Ball family borders on creepy, I've never heard of an issue between Rooney or the Ball family, thats not to say there isn't, just ive not heard of one. LCAB comes across as a midly psychotic sociopath and he seems to get very defensive and aggressive when called on something, however I've never met the guy but would love to meet him for a coffee or something just to show him that he really shouldn't be threatened by anyone for having a different opinion and should not go around asking people to meet him for a showdown on the Internet
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 19, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
As far as I make out his obsession with the Ball family borders on creepy, I've never heard of an issue between Rooney or the Ball family, thats not to say there isn't, just ive not heard of one. LCAB comes across as a midly psychotic sociopath and he seems to get very defensive and aggressive when called on something, however I've never met the guy but would love to meet him for a coffee or something just to show him that he really shouldn't be threatened by anyone for having a different opinion and should not go around asking people to meet him for a showdown on the Internet
Doesn't he wander around GP on match day in a shirt with LCAB on the back? Thought I'd seen it once and im sure it had been mentioned elsewhere on tinternet.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on May 19, 2013, 10:57:55 PM
Yeah you can consider him eccentric or whatever, he's often right mind if you can get to the bottom of what hes saying. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 19, 2013, 11:02:48 PM
Having only seen his brief appearance on here, the thing I concluded was that he's a cock.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 20, 2013, 12:28:15 AM
Fact is that if Rooney would play for the sort of money Everton can pay for a player (well under 100k pw), he would be a massive signing. It doesn't matter he's not quite as good as he used be, he can still win matches on his own.

We could always negotiate an Adebayor-esque lump sum.

However I don't want to see this happening. One of the reasons we improved so quickly when he left was we'd previously been trying to play everything through him. I'd hate to see us return to that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on May 20, 2013, 12:58:44 AM
We could always negotiate an Adebayor-esque lump sum.

However I don't want to see this happening. One of the reasons we improved so quickly when he left was we'd previously been trying to play everything through him. I'd hate to see us return to that.

Tend to disagree there mate i'd have him back like a shot,he's what weve missed all season a natural goalscxorer,he would have been the difference between 4th and 6th place.
Having said that I dont think there is anyway in this world we would get him back here.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2013, 01:23:30 AM
As far as I make out his obsession with the Ball family borders on creepy, I've never heard of an issue between Rooney or the Ball family, thats not to say there isn't, just ive not heard of one. LCAB comes across as a midly psychotic sociopath and he seems to get very defensive and aggressive when called on something, however I've never met the guy but would love to meet him for a coffee or something just to show him that he really shouldn't be threatened by anyone for having a different opinion and should not go around asking people to meet him for a showdown on the Internet

i'd love to meet him just go over a few simple rules of typing. i just don't get why somebody would want to put themselves across so fucking cryptically. all this shit - ,,,, and 'BTW' every few words and a whole host of other nonsense he puts into his stuff. and isn't he a writer? what is that about?

he put himself across extremely poorly on this site, and it wound me up no end, but i think deep down, he's probably just a good egg who is very internet popular and has a lot of terrible affectations.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 20, 2013, 01:44:01 AM
i'd love to meet him just go over a few simple rules of typing. i just don't get why somebody would want to put themselves across so fucking cryptically. all this shit - ,,,, and 'BTW' every few words and a whole host of other nonsense he puts into his stuff. and isn't he a writer? what is that about?

he put himself across extremely poorly on this site, and it wound me up no end, but i think deep down, he's probably just a good egg who is very internet popular and has a lot of terrible affectations.

Caps is when hes emphasising something, not sure what vero or oracula are meant to mean. The obsession with the Ball family is a bit odd 'even Keeley calls me Bally' was a little strange from his brief stint posting here!

He is obviously a big Everton fan, and I understand that due to character limit on twitter he would shorten words, but on here I think people would have had no problem with him if he just typed normally!

I sometimes wonder what the likes of Phil Neville and Neville Southall think when he tweets them. He appears to personally know Southall and quite a few ex everton players, can they understand his tweets?!

He is infinitely more comfortable being on twitter, hearing that he was banned on got makes me think we didnt treat him too harshly on here!In fact I dont even think he was banned?!

Im not sure why he cant tweet things a bit simpler though!Earlier on he could have just said 'I'm hearing Rooney wants to come back to Everton' rather than going on about the Asbo cryin
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 20, 2013, 02:01:12 AM
Cryptic pronouncements a) sound more convincing as those ITK will understand them, obviously and b) it's harder to say something was called wrong.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2013, 02:06:23 AM
its like a whole other style of writing english.

for instance i dont know, if everton were signing moutinho,

he would write like

AM hearing #EFC hv th MOUT in,,,the bag BTW NOT the other GUY,,

it's just an affectation and its nonesense and i'd like him more if he just wrote less mental.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 20, 2013, 02:21:00 AM
You mean like:

Quote
David The Toffee @lcabbabeh
Or NOT tho as well an HE MAYV LIKE IT SEEMS have just BINNED HIM OFF  No word ALL DAY
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 20, 2013, 02:33:23 AM
its like a whole other style of writing english.

for instance i dont know, if everton were signing moutinho,

he would write like

AM hearing #EFC hv th MOUT in,,,the bag BTW NOT the other GUY,,

it's just an affectation and its nonesense and i'd like him more if he just wrote less mental.

Dont mess with our emotions brap...are we signing Moutinho?!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2013, 02:42:12 AM
Dont mess with our emotions brap...are we signing Moutinho?!

#brapula #brapoBTW
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 20, 2013, 04:57:31 AM
So is Wazza coming home? I was hoping we don't actually discuss the itl's in the itk thread
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 20, 2013, 05:29:08 AM
So is Wazza coming home? I was hoping we don't actually discuss the itl's in the itk thread

There's a few stumbling blocks.  If he is prepared to apologise to all of Alan Ball's family and LCAB as well as accepting to earn around £150,000 a week less then its on
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 20, 2013, 05:33:35 AM
is a loan deal out of the question?

Sort of like what Spurs did with .adebayor last season?

Probably not because I'm sure that there's clubs that will pay for Rooney, but he's no use at United if he doesn't want to be there.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 20, 2013, 05:43:41 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/20/zygetazy.jpg)

Lcab still thinks Martinez.says expect news this week

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 20, 2013, 05:45:43 AM
There's a few stumbling blocks.  If he is prepared to apologise to all of Alan Ball's family and LCAB as well as accepting to earn around £150,000 a week less then its on

Not this

is a loan deal out of the question?

Sort of like what Spurs did with .adebayor last season?

Probably not because I'm sure that there's clubs that will pay for Rooney, but he's no use at United if he doesn't want to be there.

Kinda like this
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 20, 2013, 05:45:53 AM
What sort of links does lcab have to the club supposedly?

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on May 20, 2013, 05:52:18 AM
What sort of links does lcab have to the club supposedly?

He's the guy who encrypts the fax machine when we send contracts on transfer deadline day.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on May 20, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
What did Rooney do to the Ball family?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 20, 2013, 07:37:10 PM
I may be about a month too late with this but, who's this Shahid Khan fella that was at the Chelsea game on Sunday with BK? He's the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and is rumoured to be interested in Everton?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 20, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
I may be about a month too late with this but, who's this Shahid Khan fella that was at the Chelsea game on Sunday with BK? He's the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and is rumoured to be interested in Everton?

This hasn't been reported anywhere mate. Got any links?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 20, 2013, 07:58:58 PM
This hasn't been reported anywhere mate. Got any links?

No mate. A lad I work with has just told me he (Khan) was at the game Sunday.

Apparently he was at the West Ham game too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 20, 2013, 08:03:21 PM
No mate. A lad I work with has just told me he (Khan) was at the game Sunday.

He is the ricest person of Pakistani descent according to wikipedia....fantastic stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 20, 2013, 08:08:00 PM
He is the ricest person of Pakistani descent according to wikipedia....fantastic stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan)

He said he was a Pakistani American. Doesn't know whether he is to invest in the club or wants to buy outright.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 20, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
He said he was a Pakistani American. Doesn't know whether he is to invest in the club or wants to buy outright.

Watch this space stuff then! haha
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on May 20, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
Just out of curiosity I googled the guy and he would be very much exactly what this club needs:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2013/03/20/what-nfl-owner-shahid-khan-learned-in-his-rookie-season/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2013/03/20/what-nfl-owner-shahid-khan-learned-in-his-rookie-season/)

Bright business brains. FFP means just being a billionaire doesn't help anymore since you have to live by your means. What the club needs is increased turnover and that's what this guy seems to be doing with his NFL team. Not saying it must be him, but this is basically the type of owner required.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ihatecollina on May 20, 2013, 09:12:29 PM
He is the ricest person of Pakistani descent according to wikipedia....fantastic stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan)

If I prefer white rice to brown rice, would that make me ricest too? :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 20, 2013, 09:17:03 PM
If I prefer white rice to brown rice, would that make me ricest too? :)

Bravo sir.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 20, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
Not read up on him but, he apparently made his fortune making bumpers for Toyota?!

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 20, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
If I prefer white rice to brown rice, would that make me ricest too? :)

Shite.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ihatecollina on May 20, 2013, 09:48:30 PM
Shite.

Ouch!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
a girl in work has just told me the old classic - uncle drives a cab, had a fella in the back...

to cut a short story shorter -

diego simeone.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ihatecollina on May 20, 2013, 10:03:44 PM
Diego Simeone would be awesome......... as if!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fynci on May 20, 2013, 11:05:17 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3cec5312-156e-11e2-8d17-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2TqjWUi5T (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3cec5312-156e-11e2-8d17-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2TqjWUi5T)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fynci on May 20, 2013, 11:07:58 PM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3cec5312-156e-11e2-8d17-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2TqjWUi5T (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3cec5312-156e-11e2-8d17-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2TqjWUi5T)

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Buyers cautious on English Premier League
October 14th 2012

Buyers of Premier League clubs used to arrive in droves. A trend begun by Roman Abramovich’s purchase of Chelsea in 2003 has seen international investors pouncing to take over English football’s biggest names.
Over a five-year period, 12 clubs changed hands when they were in the Premier League, four of them twice over, mostly to foreign buyers.

Buyers from the US, Russia, the Far East, the Middle East and India were seduced by the meteoric rise in the value of broadcast rights and the cachet of owning a team in the most exciting league in the world’s most popular sport.
But since Indian group Venkys purchased Blackburn Rovers in November 2010, the deal flow has run dry. Only promotion and relegation has changed the make-up of owners round the Premier League board table in the past two years.

Football business experts cannot agree why the flow of deals has halted. The reason that stares them in the face – the global economic downturn – is largely rejected.

The downturn may have killed off debt-funded deals of the type that underpinned the takeovers of Manchester United and Liverpool, said Dan Jones of Deloitte’s sport business group.

But the Premier League has attracted owners with different business and financial models. “If you’re buying with your own assets and wealth, the financial crisis doesn’t have its own impact,” Mr Jones said.

The broadly held view is that interested buyers have taken stock of the experience of the wave of new owners since 2005 and are treading more warily.

Compared with other sports franchises, some owners have found the business of winning Premier League football matches alarmingly hazardous, according to Paul Barber, chief executive of Brighton and Hove Albion that plays a tier below England’s top division. “There are so many games that could go either way,” he said.

Others failed to appreciate the need to invest more than the actual purchase price. The ambitions of Liverpool’s first set of US owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, were undone largely by their stalled plans to fund a new stadium. The same problem is hampering the plans of the current set, Fenway Sports Group.

According to Keith Wyness, former Everton chief executive, that experience is putting off buyers for his old club, despite the oft-repeated willingness of owner Bill Kenwright to sell at the right price.

“Any buyer would have to look at solving Everton’s long-term stadium situation as well as handling present-day issues such as squad investment,” Mr Wyness said.

The administration of Portsmouth and year-after-year of lossmaking accounts at several clubs are other reasons deterring putative buyers.

In the eyes of many American investors, the league’s drawbacks continue to be the absence of measures to constrain wages and provide competitive balance.

The value of Premier League clubs do look enticing, said Shahid Khan, owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars NFL team. “But to me, the business model is not attractive. You don’t have a fixed salary cap,” he said.
Nor is there time for Premier League owners take a long-term view of their investment. “You eat what you kill,” he added.

America’s football league, Major League Soccer, prides itself on its clubs’ financial solidity. True, said Merritt Paulson, owners of Portland Timbers, the MLS looks on with envy at the Premier League’s TV rights deals.
But he could never envisage buying a top English club from the other side of the pond. “I’m living, dreaming, sleeping in my market,” he said. “It’s tough to be an absentee owner.”

The American influence in the Premier League is nonetheless significant. A “financial fair play” system, requiring clubs to live within their means, is in place for clubs wishing to compete in Uefa competitions. But US owners are pressing for similar financial reforms in the Premier League.

Adopting cost controls could revive buyer interest in Premier League clubs. “A good economic environment attracts owners,” said Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis at a football conference on Thursday.
But buyers are also drawn to cheaper clubs playing in England’s lower leagues, hoping to enter the Premier League through promotion.

Some buyers are also switching to clubs in other European leagues. “We continue to see trophy-asset interest,” said Trevor Watkins of Pinsent Masons, lawyers who advise the sports industry. “But that is balanced with other investors who don’t just look at the Premier League but at value on the continent.”

Will the latest TV rights rise kick off another buyers’ boom? The 70 per cent increase in the value of the league’s domestic rights reaffirms its attractiveness, said Mr Jones.

“But is it a massive catalyst for new investor interest? I’m not sure. If you are a buyer or a seller you are waiting to see what happens to financial fair play.”
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on May 20, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Twitter is rumouring that Porto Guy is looking for a house in Fomrby  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on May 20, 2013, 11:58:20 PM
Twitter is rumouring that Porto Guy is looking for a house in Fomrby  lolol
..........surely you mean Fombry ?  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 21, 2013, 12:12:25 AM
..........surely you mean Fombry ?  lolol

No Fromby
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 21, 2013, 12:15:56 AM
Twitter is rumouring that Porto Guy is looking for a house in Fomrby  lolol

I hope so. I really do.

El Bellendo as manager with El Stubbso as his assistant would be perfect.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 21, 2013, 04:03:36 AM
Worth positing in here as it's already lost in the manager thread:

A certain other Everton forum's answer to Shorty (always been spot on like Shorty) has confirmed Alan Stubbs won't be the next Everton manager.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2013, 04:11:24 AM
Worth positing in here as it's already lost in the manager thread:

A certain other Everton forum's answer to Shorty (always been spot on like Shorty) has confirmed Alan Stubbs won't be the next Everton manager.
who?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 21, 2013, 04:11:59 AM
who?

DAVIDMOYES
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 21, 2013, 04:12:07 AM
who?

The poster is called DAVIDMOYES


I know.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2013, 04:16:02 AM
The poster is called DAVIDMOYES


I know.
ah he broke the mirallas story didn't he
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 21, 2013, 04:23:21 AM
ah he broke the mirallas story didn't he

Yeah
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 21, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
Worth positing in here as it's already lost in the manager thread:

A certain other Everton forum's answer to Shorty (always been spot on like Shorty) has confirmed Alan Stubbs won't be the next Everton manager.

Well he's wrong, cos Matty1878 says he is.  :P
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 21, 2013, 05:17:21 AM
Sharpattack just posted on Twitter, says Ossie for player/manager.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 21, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
I hope so. I really do.

El Bellendo as manager with El Stubbso as his assistant would be perfecto.
Fixed
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 21, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
DAVIDMOYES

This guy knows his stuff, few other things aswell as mirallas.....100% hit rate so far!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on May 21, 2013, 01:29:16 PM
This is already a good contender for the stupidest rumour this summer:

Transfer ‏@TransferTaIk 8h
BREAKING: Bale's uncle has just sent me a direct message saying he's moved to Everton.

 lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on May 21, 2013, 01:30:42 PM
This is already a good contender for the stupidest rumour this summer:

Transfer ‏@TransferTaIk 8h
BREAKING: Bale's uncle has just sent me a direct message saying he's moved to Everton.

 lolol lolol lolol

Maybe it's Christian Bale?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on May 21, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Maybe it's Christian Bale?

We've had Rocky and Mr Testicles, why not Batman!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 21, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
Vitor Pereira will even leave FC Porto, despite victory plucked irons in the last corner, the conquest of this year joins the last season of the tricampeonato make diamonds sparkle of dragons and he is also the author of one of the careers most impressive in the history of the League.

FC Porto coach has been informed of the decision and this information was not provided him recently, the denouement began to gain effective expression after the removal of FC Porto Champions League logo and then the tie in front of the Maritime Wood, a result which left restless dragons in the race to the national title.

The revolt of Porto just above the end of time, with the conquest of the national title - which has always been top priority - Benfica, FC Porto SAD did not deviate from ideas for the coach, Vítor Pereira contract ends on 30 June and certainly will not renew it, it has the green light to look the other way and Porto following turn to another life experience and will from now accelerate contacts with the names in the portfolio will have to surrender.

Story from from Abola
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 21, 2013, 03:43:58 PM
Well he's wrong, cos Matty1878 says he is.  :P

Matty out!

He was so sure of himself. I think he needs to have words with his 'ITK'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 21, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
Moutinho is closer to Everton than ever.

He's joining Monaco.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 21, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
More chatter about Lazio's Nigerian midfielder Ogenyi "Eddy" Onazi. Just 20 years old, holding/defensive mid type. 7 caps for Nigeria, and would qualify for a work permit courtesy of featuring at AFCON. Has performed well in both Serie A and the Europa League. We've apparently made our interest known to Lazio. Price could be anywhere from £2-8M, depending on the source, which makes me think nobody knows anything yet.

If we're truly interested, I hope we take care of it before the Confederations Cup next month. His value could go up even more with a string of good performances.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: EFCdanger on May 21, 2013, 09:56:13 PM
Anyone heard anything about the South African guy we had in on loan?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 21, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
Anyone heard anything about the South African guy we had in on loan?

He signed and then we sold him to Tottenham, didn't do too well and came back on loan. We then bought him back for a little more than we sold him for.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 21, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
Moutinho is closer to Everton than ever.

He's joining Monaco.

£59M for Moutinho and Rodríguez. And apparently another £60M expected for Falcao. Monaco's new owner is throwing money about like it's candy...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: EFCdanger on May 21, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
He signed and then we sold him to Tottenham, didn't do too well and came back on loan. We then bought him back for a little more than we sold him for.

Outrageous! Kenwright Out!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 21, 2013, 10:00:08 PM
More chatter about Lazio's Nigerian midfielder Ogenyi "Eddy" Onazi. Just 20 years old, holding/defensive mid type. 7 caps for Nigeria, and would qualify for a work permit courtesy of featuring at AFCON. Has performed well in both Serie A and the Europa League. We've apparently made our interest known to Lazio. Price could be anywhere from £2-8M, depending on the source, which makes me think nobody knows anything yet.

If we're truly interested, I hope we take care of it before the Confederations Cup next month. His value could go up even more with a string of good performances.

Who is interested in him??

Maybe we've had him watched but that would have been part if Moyes' plans.

The new man will have their own ideas.

If we had a massive budget (or even a director of football) I could see us signing someone without a manager. But we're not going to buy someone when we're not even sure how much we'd have to pay to get a manager in the first place and then factor in how little money we have.

Unless of course we're appointing internally and they're happy to use Moyes' plans...

;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 21, 2013, 10:01:43 PM
Anyone heard anything about the South African guy we had in on loan?

Daylon Claasen. Was on trial with Celtic last week, so I'm guessing we passed on him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 22, 2013, 02:21:45 AM
Fourth Official just said he's lumping on Vitor Pereira at 12/1 #EFC

Who knows eh?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 22, 2013, 02:29:25 AM
Fourth Official just said he's lumping on Vitor Pereira at 12/1 #EFC

Who knows eh?

Could have had 33/1 t'other day.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: t2487 on May 22, 2013, 02:35:44 AM
Fourth Official just said he's lumping on Vitor Pereira at 12/1 #EFC

Who knows eh?

He said he'd bet last week when he was at 20s.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2013, 02:43:41 AM
He said he'd bet last week when he was at 20s.
i am on at 28s
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 22, 2013, 03:10:56 AM
Fourth Official has been banging his drum for some time, I'm praying he knows something.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 22, 2013, 03:28:55 AM
Fourth Official has been banging his drum for some time, I'm praying he knows something.

Me too. I got 25s.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 22, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
Going to include shorty and his USA scoop?

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on May 22, 2013, 03:52:58 AM
Fourth Official is probably basing it on the info that Perreira is flying to England to talk with two clubs.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2013, 03:53:30 AM
Portoguy 6/1 now
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 22, 2013, 04:13:04 AM
Proving to be great pre-wank material all this porto guy stuff
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 22, 2013, 04:32:08 AM
Going to include shorty and his USA scoop?

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

Wasn't sure if it was worth including but I guess I will...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fynci on May 22, 2013, 02:05:06 PM
Asked my friend on Facebook (he's a Porto fan)

Hugo - tell me about Vítor Pereira, he's getting linked a fair bit with Everton at the minute...

His reply:

humm
he is not a bad coach but I am not fully convinced
he won 2 championships in Portugal
but only lost one game
in the past 2 years

--------

It doesn't seem to add up to me. Why are Porto fans unsure about him, despite his ridiculously good record?!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: plumber on May 22, 2013, 05:37:21 PM

It doesn't seem to add up to me. Why are Porto fans unsure about him, despite his ridiculously good record?!

Probably because Primeira Liga is a two clubs league. Benfica lost one game (undeservedly) this season and finished second.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2013, 05:56:57 PM
Fourth official says porto guy 2 year deal... Quoting Portuguese press
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on May 22, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
Someone post the quoted press!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on May 22, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/everton/pereira-next-everton-boss-claims-1593030.html (http://www.eatsleepsport.com/everton/pereira-next-everton-boss-claims-1593030.html)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 22, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/everton/pereira-next-everton-boss-claims-1593030.html (http://www.eatsleepsport.com/everton/pereira-next-everton-boss-claims-1593030.html)

If that is true, it would suggest that Everton did know about Moyes leaving to take the Man U job.

It also suggests that the board were being proactive in coming up with a plan B too.

If this report is true of course.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: tonysoprano on May 22, 2013, 07:29:35 PM
Probably because Primeira Liga is a two clubs league. Benfica lost one game (undeservedly) this season and finished second.
said exactly same on manager thread but the inbreds didnt get the point
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 22, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
The premier league was a one club league this year.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 22, 2013, 07:36:34 PM
If Porto finished 2nd or 3rd then maybe I would understand the fans hate towards him. As it is they finished top and the likes of Benfica and Sporting below them totally schooled us when we played them

Vitor as manager and Nuno as assistant. Dream team
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 22, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
If Porto finished 2nd or 3rd then maybe I would understand the fans hate towards him. As it is they finished top and the likes of Benfica and Sporting below them totally schooled us when we played them

Vitor as manager and Nuno as assistant. Dream team

That one league defeat in two years must have really cut deep with the fans
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 22, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
The premier league was a one club league this year.

But how often is that the case?

Look at next year, we could have 3-5 serious contenders for the league.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 22, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
That one league defeat in two years must have really cut deep with the fans

Liga Portuguesa 11/12 (17ªJ): Gil Vicente 3-1 FC Porto (29-01-2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Vu_1pOkRE#ws)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 22, 2013, 07:44:32 PM
But how often is that the case?

Look at next year, we could have 3-5 serious contenders for the league.

You're right, it's normally a two horse race.

But next year could be quite different. Still want Tuchel.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 22, 2013, 07:55:06 PM
You're right, it's normally a two horse race.

But next year could be quite different. Still want Tuchel.

You're right, it will be a straight fight between us and the two Manchester Clubs  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 22, 2013, 09:47:58 PM
said exactly same on manager thread but the inbreds didnt get the point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQl5aYhkF3E
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 22, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
LCAB reckons we'll know who the next manager is some time in the next few days.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 22, 2013, 10:42:25 PM
LCAB reckons we'll know who the next manager is some time in the next few days.

Still seems to suggest he thinks it will be Martinez. He Retweeted someone saying Everton have 24hours to decide whether they want Martinez
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
LCAB reckons we'll know who the next manager is some time in the next few days.
bobby martinez
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 22, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
LCAB reckons we'll know who the next manager is some time in the next few days.

He's also been retweeting vitor tweets and stories also.....

Lcab doesn't have a clue who it may be just like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2013, 12:03:16 AM
Still seems to suggest he thinks it will be Martinez. He Retweeted someone saying Everton have 24hours to decide whether they want Martinez

I thought it was Wigan have given Martinez 24 hours to decide?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 23, 2013, 12:04:47 AM
The Lcab is full of shit.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 23, 2013, 12:05:55 AM
The Lcab is full of shit.

He'll offer you out for that LAD

Honestly, he'll inVITE you OveR to TwittER so you cAn argUE wiTh hIM On tHere
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2013, 12:16:41 AM
Guess we will see
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 23, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Guess we will see

Add Jimmy to the list.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2013, 12:18:44 AM
Add Jimmy to the list.
what list
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 23, 2013, 01:09:01 AM
The List.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2013, 01:18:45 AM
The List.
ah that list ???
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 23, 2013, 01:25:28 AM
ah that list ???

The OP you wally
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 23, 2013, 03:27:42 AM
theory:


the subscriber's forum was actually introduced to keep shorty away from the peons so he will continue to post.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 23, 2013, 03:53:06 AM
He'll offer you out for that LAD

Honestly, he'll inVITE you OveR to TwittER so you cAn argUE wiTh hIM On tHere

Was that actually him last transfer window? the one who was clearly an 8 year old? People take him seriously?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 23, 2013, 03:53:17 AM
theory:


the subscriber's forum was actually introduced to keep shorty away from the peons so he will continue to post.

Not assed Im stumping up the £3 to see what he say's
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bally on May 23, 2013, 04:00:29 AM
Not assed Im stumping up the £3 to see what he say's
Quick delete the Ram thread
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2013, 04:02:07 AM
Quick delete the Ram thread
gaaasssshhhhh
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 23, 2013, 04:10:18 AM
Not assed Im stumping up the £3 to see what he say's

No rams allowed.

'heeyy but ramjam is in there!'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 23, 2013, 04:12:36 AM
No rams allowed.

'heeyy but ramjam is in there!'

It says no Rams....were allowed to have one
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 24, 2013, 01:31:17 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/egasuhy2.jpg)

A bit of an exchange between Fourth Official and Lcab on twitter. FO asked LCAB who he reckons for manager.

We could have appointed Vitor Perreira on Monday but chose not to according to LCAB. He still thinks it will be Martinez

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Toddacelli on May 24, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/egasuhy2.jpg)

A bit of an exchange between Fourth Official and Lcab on twitter. FO asked LCAB who he reckons for manager.

We could have appointed Vitor Perreira on Monday but chose not to according to LCAB. He still thinks it will be Martinez

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Really?

Could have had Pereira if we wanted to but chose not to?

FFS.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 24, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
Really?

Could have had Pereira if we wanted to but chose not to?

FFS.

Be a bit gutted if thats true and we end up with one of the less popular names. Perreira is a hugely popular choice now with a big section of Evertonians. A shitty new badge could kinda go un-noticed if they announce Perreira just before they release it!

Would be a good day to bury bad news for the club
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 24, 2013, 02:25:09 PM
I tend not to believe a great deal of what lcab says. I'm also hopeful Martinez will stay at Wigan, the more it drags on the more it's looking like he'll stay
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 24, 2013, 02:26:17 PM
Be a bit gutted if thats true and we end up with one of the less popular names. Perreira is a hugely popular choice now with a big section of Evertonians. A shitty new badge could kinda go un-noticed if they announce Perreira just before they release it!

Would be a good day to bury bad news for the club

Vp holding up a shirt with his fingers covering the badge?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 24, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
N'Zonzi handed in a T/R at Stoke..

That didn't last long.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 24, 2013, 05:41:09 PM
N'Zonzi handed in a T/R at Stoke..

That didn't last long.
he must regret turning us down surely
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 24, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
he must regret turning us down surely

Probably. I don't rate him myself.

One of the few that "got away" whom i ain't arsed about. Him, along with N'Zogbia and Barton.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 24, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
Nzogbia and Adam Johnson... What bullets we dodge there  ;D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 24, 2013, 07:14:33 PM
Probably. I don't rate him myself.

One of the few that "got away" whom i ain't arsed about. Him, along with N'Zogbia and Barton.

no nor me, it was a huge chance for him tho
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 24, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
Probably. I don't rate him myself.

One of the few that "got away" whom i ain't arsed about. Him, along with N'Zogbia and Barton.

I think he's quite good, would get into our team
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on May 25, 2013, 03:49:15 AM
I think he's quite good, would get into our team

He'd have played a ton of games when Gibson was out injured.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: fast lane on May 25, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
Santos have said Neymar can leave in the summer.

I wonder which Spanish giant will pay the alleged transfer sum of $28m?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 25, 2013, 10:37:36 PM
Santos have said Neymar can leave in the summer.

I wonder which Spanish giant will pay the alleged transfer sum of $28m?
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i'd put my house on barca.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on May 25, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Santos have said Neymar can leave in the summer.

I wonder which Spanish giant will pay the alleged transfer sum of $28m?

28 million dollars? I saw Madrid linked with a 100 million euro's bid the other day  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on May 25, 2013, 11:35:31 PM
Santos have said Neymar can leave in the summer.

I wonder which Spanish giant will pay the alleged transfer sum of $28m?

Neymar? Sounds like a Scottish orphan
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: fast lane on May 26, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
Santos have said Neymar can leave in the summer.

I wonder which Spanish giant will pay the alleged transfer sum of $28m?

Correction, it's euro's.

And it's Barca it seems.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cods on May 26, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
i'd put my house on barca.

I'd put my house IN Barca.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on May 27, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
http://allafrica.com/stories/201305271119.html?viewall=1 (http://allafrica.com/stories/201305271119.html?viewall=1)

Uncapped Gambia left-back Ibou Touray has been issued promise for first team football after English premier League clubEverton renewed his contract, Foroyaa Sport has gathered.

The defender likened to Real Madrid's Brazilian Marcelo had his Scholarship deal renewed at the Goodison Park. The Liverpudian-born has featured prominently for the club reserve and U-18 side since securing scholarship with the Merseyside outfit in 2011.

Ibou who is eligible to play for Gambia and England has Everton first team player Leighton Baines as favourite player but looks up to Chelsea's defender Ashley Cole as a mentor figure. Plans were mooted to have the youngster and Macoumba Kandji commit their future to the Gambia national team before the dissolution of the defunct GFA executive board it is understood.

Ibou is one of the few Gambians to sign for an English premier league club along with midfielder Solomon Sambou of Fulham. The 18-year-old was regular in the Everton youth team that took part in the FA Cup junior competition.


Anyone seen this lad play?? It says he's likened to Marcelo haha
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Juanito on May 27, 2013, 08:39:47 PM
Be over the moon with new manager Vitor P,

OUT
Felliani 10 million plus Lukaku
Heitinga

IN
Lukaku
Lescott
Sinclair
Fer/McCarthy
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 27, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
These Lukaku shouts are mad.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 27, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
These Lukaku shouts are mad.
mourinho will wanna keep him

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 27, 2013, 08:58:31 PM
Be over the moon with new manager Vitor P,

OUT
Felliani 10 million plus Lukaku
Heitinga

IN
Lukaku
Lescott
Sinclair
Fer/McCarthy


Turn the ps3 off lad
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 27, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
http://allafrica.com/stories/201305271119.html?viewall=1 (http://allafrica.com/stories/201305271119.html?viewall=1)

Uncapped Gambia left-back Ibou Touray has been issued promise for first team football after English premier League clubEverton renewed his contract, Foroyaa Sport has gathered.

The defender likened to Real Madrid's Brazilian Marcelo had his Scholarship deal renewed at the Goodison Park. The Liverpudian-born has featured prominently for the club reserve and U-18 side since securing scholarship with the Merseyside outfit in 2011.

Ibou who is eligible to play for Gambia and England has Everton first team player Leighton Baines as favourite player but looks up to Chelsea's defender Ashley Cole as a mentor figure. Plans were mooted to have the youngster and Macoumba Kandji commit their future to the Gambia national team before the dissolution of the defunct GFA executive board it is understood.

Ibou is one of the few Gambians to sign for an English premier league club along with midfielder Solomon Sambou of Fulham. The 18-year-old was regular in the Everton youth team that took part in the FA Cup junior competition.


Anyone seen this lad play?? It says he's likened to Marcelo haha

No, pretty shit on fifa though.

Why are the lukaku shouts mad btw? Because we'd never in a million years get him?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on May 27, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
No, pretty shit on fifa though.

Why are the lukaku shouts mad btw? Because we'd never in a million years get him?

Because most of them involve him moving to us permanently i'm guessing, a loan isn't out of the question though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 27, 2013, 10:00:50 PM
No, pretty shit on fifa though.

Why are the lukaku shouts mad btw? Because we'd never in a million years get him?

Chelsea payed £18m for a young player.

They are either going to want to keep him or get a decent return on him.

Either of those would mean we have no chance.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on May 27, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
I'd be amazed if Mourinho didn't want Lukaku in and around the 1st team this year, but it's worth asking about a loan. He'd be playing at a good level, near the top of the Prem (hopefully), and could potentially hurt some of Chelsea's rivals, when we play them.

Suppose it depends on who he wants to replace Torres (and potentially Ba) with.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on May 27, 2013, 10:11:56 PM
Thought as much, I was hoping it wasn't because he wasn't rated, he's a fucking monster.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 27, 2013, 10:50:20 PM
He's the new Drogba...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: DannyR on May 28, 2013, 12:43:34 AM
Transfer News Live ‏@DeadlineDayLive 2m
Roberto Martínez is set to tell Wigan chairman Dave Whelan he wants to leave and take over at Everton. (Source: ESPN)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on May 28, 2013, 03:48:38 AM
AjaxFanzone.NL ‏@AjaxFanzoneNL  14m 
Johnny Heitinga verruilt Everton voor Fenerbahce. #AJAX
 

 
 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 28, 2013, 03:50:19 AM
AjaxFanzone.NL ‏@AjaxFanzoneNL  14m 
Johnny Heitinga verruilt Everton voor Fenerbahce. #AJAX
 

 
 

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_9MhytWHqGvxcUXin4R_yQ-bHrSoovH5iczO80UrLBR49KIXH)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thom on May 28, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
So that's why everyone is talking about Heitinga then. Insert obligatory "I'm going to wait until he's holding a Fenerbahce shirt before I believe it" here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on May 28, 2013, 04:13:47 AM
AjaxFanzone.NL ‏@AjaxFanzoneNL  14m 
Johnny Heitinga verruilt Everton voor Fenerbahce. #AJAX
 

 
 

I hope the 14 m bit is the price! :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 28, 2013, 04:18:54 AM
I hope the 14 m bit is the price! :)
sadly the time
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2013, 04:22:26 AM
We should send him on loan there for two seasons and then let him go back on a free.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on May 28, 2013, 04:27:09 AM
How much do people think we could get for JH with a year left on his contract? Apparently he's already agreed personal terms with Fenerbahce and the stumbling block is our fee. What d'you reckon? 5 mill maybe?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 28, 2013, 04:30:57 AM
How much do people think we could get for JH with a year left on his contract? Apparently he's already agreed personal terms with Fenerbahce and the stumbling block is our fee. What d'you reckon? 5 mill maybe?

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 28, 2013, 04:32:38 AM
All things considered I'd probably be satisfied with £4m.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2013, 04:49:03 AM
After the Yobo fiasco I'd be happy to get anything.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Maestro Haze on May 28, 2013, 05:13:24 AM
All things considered I'd probably be satisfied with £4m.

You're probably right, he's got bags of international experience so he's probably worth around that, and considering his age as well.

Let's just hope that we can get a suitable replacement in, I'd like to see Stones next season, probably last chance saloon for Duffy as well.
I can see him leaving if he doesn't get more playing time next season.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bally on May 28, 2013, 12:53:56 PM
So that's why everyone is talking about Heitinga then. Insert obligatory "I'm going to wait until he's holding a Fenerbahce shirt before I do a happy dance" here.

Fixed for me ... lol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on May 28, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
3/4M I would imagine for Heitinga. The problem is his wages, he can blame the club all he wants with what fee they want, but his wage demands will determine the amount of interested parties. Certainly wouldn't want to be pinning hopes on smooth dealings with fener....remember Yobo!

So.....what's martinez's decision gonna be today????

I swear to god if I hear off another manager, chairman, agent ect.....that said person will be having another week to think about it....I'm gonna scream the place down!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on May 28, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
After the form he s shown this year he won't be a loss and provides money we may need for compensation for a new manager
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 28, 2013, 06:04:21 PM
Think its time people admit I was right when it comes to the myth that is John Heitinga  :smug:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on May 28, 2013, 06:06:31 PM
Think its time people admit I was right when it comes to the myth that is John Heitinga  :smug:

Don't think that's fair, he's had a poor season but that doesn't make him shit.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 28, 2013, 06:09:03 PM
Don't think that's fair, he's had a poor season but that doesn't make him shit.



Along with the other poor seasons he's had, he's had a good couple of months here and there but on the whole he's been poor. Well nowhere near as good as people though he was anyway
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on May 28, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Think its time people admit I was right when it comes to the myth that is John Heitinga  :smug:

Maybe if you start by admitting you where wrong when you said Howard was one of the worst goalkeepers in the league people might
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 28, 2013, 06:13:18 PM
Maybe if you start by admitting you where wrong when you said Howard was one of the worst goalkeepers in the league people might

Admitted I was wrong on many occasions here, and I dont recall saying that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on May 28, 2013, 06:36:13 PM
Admitted I was wrong on many occasions here, and I dont recall saying that.

Now there's a challenge to a good detective
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 28, 2013, 08:40:23 PM
Looks like lcab was right about martinez
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on May 28, 2013, 08:49:10 PM
Looks like lcab was right about martinez
Yeah, look at him on twitter, rubbing everyone's fucking nose in it the dickhead.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on May 28, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Looks like lcab was right about martinez

Martinez was the clear favourite, the likes of Lennon and Laudrup were never realistic, nor was an internal appointment. It hardly makes him Nostradamus.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 28, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
Martinez was the clear favourite, the likes of Lennon and Laudrup were never realistic, nor was an internal appointment. It hardly makes him Nostradamus.
ha ha true
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 28, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
Yeah, look at him on twitter, rubbing everyone's fucking nose in it the dickhead.

Classy fella isn't he

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 28, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Martinez was the clear favourite, the likes of Lennon and Laudrup were never realistic, nor was an internal appointment. It hardly makes him Nostradamus.

He has pretty much been bookies favourite since the job came up. Maybe they saw Lcab's tweet though. WHO TF KNEW, #oracula #dracula #koffballylid
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: t2487 on May 28, 2013, 09:49:56 PM
It was ALWAYS going to be Martinez.
On the plus side, he fucked Liverpool off last season so he's already a hero in my books.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Azz on May 28, 2013, 10:07:32 PM
Martinez was the clear favourite, the likes of Lennon and Laudrup were never realistic, nor was an internal appointment. It hardly makes him Nostradamus.

Indeed and it's not like he said "on 28th May Martinez will leave Wigan"... or anything like that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on May 29, 2013, 02:16:29 AM
http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html (http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html)

Basically says he's still open to a move (Fer) and doesn't blame Everton for being cautious.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 29, 2013, 02:33:20 AM
http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html (http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html)

Basically says he's still open to a move (Fer) and doesn't blame Everton for being cautious.
would be a good signing still
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on May 29, 2013, 02:39:19 AM
would be a good signing still

Agree but it depends whether the new manager agrees,though I do like the soundbites coming from Fer tbh.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on May 29, 2013, 02:41:51 AM
http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html (http://www.twentefans.nl/nieuws/10008/fer-sta-nog-steeds-open-voor-everton-.html)

Basically says he's still open to a move (Fer) and doesn't blame Everton for being cautious.


Sell Felli to United for £25m, Buy Fer for £8m, van Ginkel for £8m and Negredo for £9m.  ;D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 29, 2013, 02:43:28 AM

Sell Felli to United for £25m, Buy Fer for £8m, van Ginkel for £8m and Negredo for £9m.  ;D

Then turn the ps3 off
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on May 29, 2013, 02:48:43 AM
Then turn the ps3 off


Make something up yaself yeah!.

Think the big cheesy grin was a give away of sarcasm moron, jeeez
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on May 29, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
Jesus !!!, Clubs ih advanced talks to sign Everton left back

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/648023607?-11192:825 (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/648023607?-11192:825)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 29, 2013, 04:34:47 AM
Quote
A new motif will appear on the club’s new kit, which is released on Saturday, without the Latin words Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

New kit unveiled on Saturday?! Is it August already??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332224/Roberto-Martinez-verge-joining-Everton-leaving-Wigan.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332224/Roberto-Martinez-verge-joining-Everton-leaving-Wigan.html)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 29, 2013, 05:08:43 AM
Jesus !!!, Clubs ih advanced talks to sign Everton left back

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/648023607?-11192:825 (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/648023607?-11192:825)

Have a look at the source you're quoting
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on May 29, 2013, 05:26:34 AM
Have a look at the source you're quoting

So you think anyone seriously cares about Bidwell? He's not going to make it here. Baines Oviedo and Garbutt in front of him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2013, 06:01:57 AM
Bidwell struggled with form in Brentford's side most of this season.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 29, 2013, 07:22:41 AM
New kit unveiled on Saturday?! Is it August already??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332224/Roberto-Martinez-verge-joining-Everton-leaving-Wigan.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332224/Roberto-Martinez-verge-joining-Everton-leaving-Wigan.html)
Hmmmm. Wonder if that's true.

Would make sense actually, we should really have our new kit on sale in time for the International cup thingo. Would be silly for us to be playing in the states but not having any merch for sale.

Not to mention that we generally wear our new kit during pre-season matches.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 29, 2013, 09:52:09 AM

Sell Felli to United for £25m, Buy Fer for £8m, van Ginkel for £8m and Negredo for £9m.  ;D

Not a bad plan if the new manager gets the whole of the hypothetical Fellaini money to spend, but van Ginkel is apparently Chelsea-bound. I also think we need depth in addition to replacing the departures, so I would expect more signings of lesser value each, with a free transfer or two perhaps thrown in. Aside from depth, getting younger wouldn't hurt either.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TrevorSteven on May 29, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Funny how everybody take for granted that Felli is leaving...great interview in Belgian media today suggest he loves it here and that he still think the club can succeed.

So what we gonna do without the 24 mill Felli would give us?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 29, 2013, 02:19:56 PM
Funny how everybody take for granted that Felli is leaving...great interview in Belgian media today suggest he loves it here and that he still think the club can succeed.

So what we gonna do without the 24 mill Felli would give us?

Either sell someone else or just have the tv money to spend
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 29, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/next-everton-manager-roberto-martinez-1917949 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/next-everton-manager-roberto-martinez-1917949)

It seems Mr Martinez would like to bring half the Wigan team, and a couple of boot room boys, with him...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 29, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/next-everton-manager-roberto-martinez-1917949 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/next-everton-manager-roberto-martinez-1917949)

It seems Mr Martinez would like to bring half the Wigan team, and a couple of boot room boys, with him...

Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 29, 2013, 02:36:54 PM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he's want to Escape From Alcaraz

 :-\
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 29, 2013, 02:46:12 PM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz
:badum:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on May 29, 2013, 02:48:02 PM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz
:|
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on May 29, 2013, 02:55:47 PM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz

(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/wirehangers/395_zps887a3cca.gif)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on May 29, 2013, 04:21:35 PM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz

This thread has officially peaked. It's all downhill from here.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: pjk on May 29, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
Hmmmm. Wonder if that's true.

Would make sense actually, we should really have our new kit on sale in time for the International cup thingo. Would be silly for us to be playing in the states but not having any merch for sale.

Not to mention that we generally wear our new kit during pre-season matches.



You need one of these Y for a thingyo. ;D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 30, 2013, 12:31:10 AM
Christ, I don't mind McCarthy, Kone and McManaman but you'd think he'd want to Escape From Alcaraz


BOOOOO!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 30, 2013, 12:36:59 AM

BOOOOO!

I know you laughed at it!don't try and pretend it wasn't hilarious!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Maestro Haze on May 30, 2013, 09:35:11 AM
Mcmanaman has a lot of potential, the only player I'd take from Wigan. He's young and a local lad.

Kone played well last season in a very poor Wigan side but he's too old, not good enough for us, we need to be looking at players like Soldado or Negredo, both proven goalscorers of the highest level every season.

If we go back in for Fer, there is no need for us to buy McCarthy, he's another with potential but I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on May 30, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
I wouldn't worry, after a few days in training with our players he'll realise Maloney is shite in comparison.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 30, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
Whats all this im seeing about Jelavic?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: edbootle on May 30, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
Whats all this im seeing about Jelavic?

What.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on May 30, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
Quote
Aleksandar Holiga ‏@AlexHoliga

Nikica Jelavic tells Vecernji List there's 50-50 chance of him leaving Everton, club would let him go for £8M.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 31, 2013, 12:23:48 AM
Quote
Aleksandar Holiga ‏@AlexHoliga

Nikica Jelavic tells Vecernji List there's 50-50 chance of him leaving Everton, club would let him go for £8M.

From the article itself, that looks more like media speculation than something Jelavic himself said.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijesti/jelavic-moyes-ce-uspjeti-unitedu-jer-zna-motivirati-clanak-561555&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvecernji%2Bjelavic (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijesti/jelavic-moyes-ce-uspjeti-unitedu-jer-zna-motivirati-clanak-561555&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvecernji%2Bjelavic)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on May 31, 2013, 01:30:09 AM
Would let him go for 8 million for sure.

Between that and Heitinga money we could probably bring in someone like Negredo.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on May 31, 2013, 01:42:29 AM
Alan Nixon saying that Kenwright has interviewed a foreign, former Prem player today at 1pm
Said that 'if this was 2011, Evertonians would be having a street party'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on May 31, 2013, 01:47:39 AM
Bilic.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 31, 2013, 01:49:35 AM
Bilic.
really dont like the idea of bilic
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on May 31, 2013, 01:52:33 AM
Me neither, but people were high on him a couple years ago and he's a foreigner who has previously played in the prem.

I'm not sure what he has done to convince anyone though.

I think it is between Martinez and Pereira, and that Martinez is probably the front-runner.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 31, 2013, 02:06:04 AM
Thats my feelings too
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2013, 02:17:34 AM
We would go down within 2 years if Bilic was here
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2013, 02:25:01 AM
We would go down within 2 years if Bilic was here

You don't know that. Would he sell all our best players or something and make us worse than the 14 clubs below us in the league currently?

Love you Ram
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on May 31, 2013, 04:51:06 AM
We would go down within 2 years if Bilic was here

Based on what?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 31, 2013, 05:01:54 AM
Based on what?

Ram logic
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 31, 2013, 06:28:59 AM
Ram logic
Ramology
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on May 31, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
Mcmanaman has a lot of potential, the only player I'd take from Wigan. He's young and a local lad.

Kone played well last season in a very poor Wigan side but he's too old, not good enough for us, we need to be looking at players like Soldado or Negredo, both proven goalscorers of the highest level every season.

That is very true about Kone, but for £2.5m or so what they paid for him, I'd have him every time over Anichebe
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2013, 11:57:20 PM
footballitalia ‏@footballitalia 56m
There are reports Marouane #Fellaini offered himself to #Juventus, but they were not interested http://www.football-italia.net/34819/fellaini-offered-juventus (http://www.football-italia.net/34819/fellaini-offered-juventus) … #EFC #MUFC

http://www.football-italia.net/34819/fellaini-offered-juventus (http://www.football-italia.net/34819/fellaini-offered-juventus)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 01, 2013, 12:14:34 AM
it's bollocks really though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 01, 2013, 04:18:51 AM
From another 'ITK' on another forum:

Over the last weekend and more specifically Monday Martinez has first been confident he's got it and then telling people 'terms agreed' . I don't know what Evertons side of the story is but that's been his .

I won't/can't say he's our manager but that's been his open position on it , I'd be surprised if he's changed his mind to a degree he's turning us down . It seems totally and completely at odds with everything he'd said or I've heard .
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 01, 2013, 04:59:18 AM
From another 'ITK' on another forum:

Over the last weekend and more specifically Monday Martinez has first been confident he's got it and then telling people 'terms agreed' . I don't know what Evertons side of the story is but that's been his .

I won't/can't say he's our manager but that's been his open position on it , I'd be surprised if he's changed his mind to a degree he's turning us down . It seems totally and completely at odds with everything he'd said or I've heard .
It's Sheedy, therefore it's done.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 02, 2013, 11:24:38 PM
Nothing ITK here:

Just seen that Chelsea want to bring Courtois back from Atletico Madrid and want to loan him out to adapt in the English League. However, he wants to stay with Atletico in order to keep his place ahead of Mignolet for the World Cup.

Worth a go?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 02, 2013, 11:25:31 PM
Nothing ITK here:

Just seen that Chelsea want to bring Courtois back from Atletico Madrid and want to loan him out to adapt in the English League. However, he wants to stay with Atletico in order to keep his place ahead of Mignolet for the World Cup.

Worth a go?

Yes yes fucking yes
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 02, 2013, 11:37:12 PM
Nothing ITK here:

Just seen that Chelsea want to bring Courtois back from Atletico Madrid and want to loan him out to adapt in the English League. However, he wants to stay with Atletico in order to keep his place ahead of Mignolet for the World Cup.

Worth a go?

Supposed to be a great one, but would only have him if we bought him (or loan with an agreed fee). Howard is fine for a couple more seasons at least, unless an amazing opportunity presents itself.

If he does come back to England, I could see him at Villa, depending on what happens with Given and Guzan.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 02, 2013, 11:38:04 PM
Fourth official seems to think the german fella rumour is bollocks, and the 3rd man is Steve Clarke.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 02, 2013, 11:56:58 PM
Fourth official seems to think the german fella rumour is bollocks, and the 3rd man is Steve Clarke.

Not doubting him like but where has this " Blown away with " story come from....Hang on was it Alan Nixon from the mirror ?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 03, 2013, 06:42:45 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_ 8m
Martinez should be confirmed as new Everton manager tomorrow
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jamokachi on June 03, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
I'm actually a wee bit gutted by that tweet :(
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 03, 2013, 10:17:46 PM
So all this announcement to be made at 1 today was bollocks.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on June 03, 2013, 11:59:16 PM
So all this announcement to be made at 1 today was bollocks.

Maybe we got put off by the Sky Mourinho wankfest, i like the bloke but christ they treat everything that comes out of his mouth as genius or hilarious 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 04, 2013, 12:58:39 AM
So all this announcement to be made at 1 today was bollocks.

Perhaps it was delayed?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 04, 2013, 01:42:50 AM
Perhaps it was delayed?

No it wasnt was it. We've only just agreed compo.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on June 04, 2013, 02:05:03 AM
No it wasnt was it. We've only just agreed compo.

Last of the Summer Wine?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 04, 2013, 02:22:54 AM
I see LCAB is being as humble as ever.

Dickhead
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:25:32 AM
I see LCAB is being as humble as ever.

Dickhead
ha ha can't say i blame him
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2013, 02:34:56 AM
ha ha can't say i blame him

It's not hard to be right in a one horse race. He was always favourite, regardless of what the bookies say. Kenwright looked around, did some interviews but it was always highly likely that Martinez would get the nod, especially when he said he was leaving. As I said before, It hardly makes LCAB Nostradamus.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2013, 02:37:15 AM
Quote
Greg O'Keeffe ‏@GregOK  54s 
Still no official confirmation from #EFC but now confient after text I've just received. Roberto Martinez is the next Everton manager.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:38:59 AM
It's not hard to be right in a one horse race. He was always favourite, regardless of what the bookies say. Kenwright looked around, did some interviews but it was always highly likely that Martinez would get the nod, especially when he said he was leaving. As I said before, It hardly makes LCAB Nostradamus.
not saying it does gash but for all he puts out there he takes pure abuse (some say deserved) so when right he is gonna milk it. E
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 04, 2013, 02:40:38 AM
I see LCAB is being as humble as ever.

Dickhead

Haha you would think he had correctly predicted the lottery numbers or something!

Has Martinez at any stage since Moyes left been anything other than bookies favourite?!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2013, 02:43:29 AM
not saying it does gash but for all he puts out there he takes pure abuse (some say deserved) so when right he is gonna milk it. E

If you've got 175k tweets, there's a good chance you'll get a bit of stick at some point, especially if you're a bit of a dick at times.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
Haha you would think he had correctly predicted the lottery numbers or something!

Has Martinez at any stage since Moyes left been anything other than bookies favourite?!
but bookies no nothing ss
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:47:40 AM
I don't deny that gash. If people called you a prick all day and you got sommet right you would be pretty pleased with yourself tho... I know i would
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 04, 2013, 02:49:18 AM
It's not hard to be right in a one horse race. He was always favourite, regardless of what the bookies say. Kenwright looked around, did some interviews but it was always highly likely that Martinez would get the nod, especially when he said he was leaving. As I said before, It hardly makes LCAB Nostradamus.

Both shearer and Hansen said that Martinez would be next manager 2 weeks ago in MOTD. I guess that makes them more ITK than LCAB or just as good at educated guesses.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2013, 02:49:25 AM
I don't deny that gash. If people called you a prick all day and you got sommet right you would be pretty pleased with yourself tho... I know i would

I'd more concerned at why I was being called a prick in the first place, that and having 175k tweets.  :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:51:22 AM
I'd more concerned at why I was being called a prick in the first place, that and having 175k tweets.  :)
ha ha true that he is like marmite ;D
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 02:52:39 AM
Both shearer and Hansen said that Martinez would be next manager 2 weeks ago in MOTD. I guess that makes them more ITK than LCAB or just as good at educated guesses.
i said it would be too but i never said i knew he was bk first choice etc
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 04, 2013, 02:53:59 AM
ha ha true that he is like marmite ;D

Do you reckon I would get pure hate off the big man if I started an Account @LCABtranslator where I translate his tweets to make them a bit easier to read?

Saying that I have a full time job and usually like to get about 8 hours sleep each night so might find it difficult!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 04, 2013, 02:54:24 AM
None of it matters really, lcab is in verms itk list and appears to have got one right however he managed that is irrelevant really.  Its one in the box, nothing more. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:03:47 AM
Do you reckon I would get pure hate off the big man if I started an Account @LCABtranslator where I translate his tweets to make them a bit easier to read?

Saying that I have a full time job and usually like to get about 8 hours sleep each night so might find it difficult!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 04, 2013, 03:05:54 AM
Didnt he say we were making an announcement at 1?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:06:46 AM
Didnt he say we were making an announcement at 1?
that seemed to be twitter in general but maybe
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 04, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
Didnt he say we were making an announcement at 1?

Don't recall.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 04, 2013, 03:14:28 AM
Added the compensation agreed.

Won't put Martinez down as a correct call by any until it's confirmed by Everton.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on June 04, 2013, 03:18:20 AM
You'd all moan if LCAB got it wrong saying "thinks he is an ITK" and all that shit. It's not the only thing he has got right.

"The bookies had him as favourite" they also had Neil Lennon as favourite at one point.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:20:04 AM
You'd all moan if LCAB got it wrong saying "thinks he is an ITK" and all that shit. It's not the only thing he has got right.

"The bookies had him as favourite" they also had Neil Lennon as favourite at one point.
i got 5/1 when stubbs was fav i think ;D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on June 04, 2013, 03:20:48 AM
If you've got 175k tweets, there's a good chance you'll get a bit of stick at some point, especially if you're a bit of a dick at times.

Fixed  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on June 04, 2013, 03:21:59 AM
i got 5/1 when stubbs was fav i think ;D

Exactly but I'm sure it was a one horse race yet there was about 5 different favourites.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 04, 2013, 03:23:11 AM
Exactly but I'm sure it was a one horse race yet there was about 5 different favourites.

Lcab for president!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 04, 2013, 03:44:52 AM
Bookies odd fluctuate based on all sorts of stuff.  Throughout the whole thing I'm sure that most have suspected that Martinez was the most likely.  I've seen some decent stuff called by ITKs in the past, but this one is not impressive at all.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:48:23 AM
Bookies odd fluctuate based on all sorts of stuff.  Throughout the whole thing I'm sure that most have suspected that Martinez was the most likely.  I've seen some decent stuff called by ITKs in the past, but this one is not impressive at all.
i don't think anyone is claiming its the best itk ever. Lcab has gone on one tonight cos even when everyone was saying pereira or rangnick or stubbs and gave him boot loads he said bk wanted martinez
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 04, 2013, 03:52:10 AM
i don't think anyone is claiming its the best itk ever. Lcab has gone on one tonight cos even when everyone was saying pereira or rangnick or stubbs and gave him boot loads he said bk wanted martinez

To be fair he has stuck with Martinez the whole time.

Bit of both I think, some idiots constantly having a go at him when other rumours came up and him going a bit over the top when it started to look like Martinez was gonna be our manager!

A marmite tweeter if ever there was one!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2013, 03:52:38 AM
His little band of followers are circling the wagons.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 04, 2013, 03:53:14 AM
i don't think anyone is claiming its the best itk ever. Lcab has gone on one tonight cos even when everyone was saying pereira or rangnick or stubbs and gave him boot loads he said bk wanted martinez

I think it's the fact he's gone on one which is why people aren't keen on him to be fair.  Again though, even when other names were hot for whatever reason, it's still always been Martinez who's remained as the most likely based on all the press that's been out.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:53:49 AM
To be fair he has stuck with Martinez the whole time.

Bit of both I think, some idiots constantly having a go at him when other rumours came up and him going a bit over the top when it started to look like Martinez was gonna be our manager!

A marmite tweeter if ever there was one!
i agree.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 03:55:40 AM
I think it's the fact he's gone on one which is why people aren't keen on him to be fair.  Again though, even when other names were hot for whatever reason, it's still always been Martinez who's remained as the most likely based on all the press that's been out.
yeah he doesn't help himself but he gets loads. Only Saturday tho the press were saying rangnick, before that it was tpg .... He was odds on at one point
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 04, 2013, 03:58:43 AM
yeah he doesn't help himself but he gets loads. Only Saturday tho the press were saying rangnick, before that it was tpg .... He was odds on at one point

If you'd asked a cross section of NSNO posters at the same time though a whole load would have still said that they thought Martinez was most likely.  Newspaper stories and highly fluid bookies odds are not great indicators of reality.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 04:03:13 AM
If you'd asked a cross section of NSNO posters at the same time though a whole load would have still said that they thought Martinez was most likely.  Newspaper stories and highly fluid bookies odds are not great indicators of reality.
most likely yes.... Bk number one choice? Its all here say anyway every itk takes highs and lows i guess. I took 5/1 when he told me it was a done deal the pic is in the betting thread am sure we would all love info like that :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 04, 2013, 04:05:01 AM
most likely yes.... Bk number one choice? Its all here say anyway every itk takes highs and lows i guess. I took 5/1 when he told me it was a done deal the pic is in the betting thread am sure we would all love info like that :)

I got him at 4/1 too. It was my safe bet compared to the 28/1 I'd put on Pereira before his odds came in.  I suspect most others were in this exact ballpark too.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 04, 2013, 04:09:50 AM
I got him at 4/1 too. It was my safe bet compared to the 28/1 I'd put on Pereira before his odds came in.  I suspect most others were in this exact ballpark too.
ha ha yeah i had 28s on pereira too
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on June 04, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
33s here  :'(
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 04, 2013, 09:57:04 PM
 Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 1m

Sevilla say they have rejected a £14.5m bid from West Ham for striker Alvaro Negredo #ssn



We can definitely forget about him now then.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 04, 2013, 10:18:43 PM
Here's a bold one from our takeover friend Daisy Cutter:

http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/06/cutter-exclusive-scott-sinclair-goodison-bound/ (http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/06/cutter-exclusive-scott-sinclair-goodison-bound/)

Quote
With several Premier League clubs chasing the England flyer – West Brom for one are reportedly seeking a loan deal – the Cutter understands it is Everton who are set to imminently swoop for a player desperate to depart from the Etihad with Toffees chairman Bill Kenwright confident of landing a welcome present for incoming boss Roberto Martinez.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 04, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Was rumoured in january too wasn't it?

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 04, 2013, 10:45:55 PM
Was rumoured in january too wasn't it?

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

I think it was shot down as he'd already played for Swansea that season too, so couldn't have played for a 3rd club. Didn't stop most sources running with it though!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on June 04, 2013, 10:50:47 PM
[With several Premier League clubs chasing the England flyer – West Brom for one are reportedly seeking a loan deal – the Cutter understands it is Everton who are set to imminently swoop for a player desperate to depart from the Etihad with Toffees chairman Bill Kenwright confident of landing a welcome present for incoming boss Roberto Martinez.[/quote]


i got a cake as my welcome present at my job
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 04, 2013, 11:01:16 PM
Sinclair would certainly give us another pacy wide option off the bench, or when somebody is in need of a rest. Could also allow Pienaar to occasionally play more centrally.

For a small fee, or on loan with an agreed purchase option, I wouldn't mind at all.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 04, 2013, 11:32:37 PM
Sinclair would certainly give us another pacy wide option off the bench, or when somebody is in need of a rest. Could also allow Pienaar to occasionally play more centrally.

For a small fee, or on loan with an agreed purchase option, I wouldn't mind at all.

This
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 04, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
Sinclair would certainly give us another pacy wide option off the bench, or when somebody is in need of a rest. Could also allow Pienaar to occasionally play more centrally.

For a small fee, or on loan with an agreed purchase option, I wouldn't mind at all.

Didn't City buy him purely to make up the number of English players?  Have they bought anyone since him?  (can't remember if Rodwell was before or after)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: pjk on June 05, 2013, 12:42:01 AM
Didn't City buy him purely to make up the number of English players?  Have they bought anyone since him?  (can't remember if Rodwell was before or after)
   




Rodwell 11 August 2012. Sinclair 31 August 2012.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 05, 2013, 03:46:28 AM
Didn't City buy him purely to make up the number of English players?  Have they bought anyone since him?  (can't remember if Rodwell was before or after)

Looks that way on first glance. Also, we laughed at Richard Wright; I'm guessing that was for the same reason:
Hart, Wright, Lescott, Richards, Rodwell, Milner, Barry, Sinclair

There's your required 8 in the 25-man squad. Wayne Bridge got shipped out, so he didn't count. They've got Alex Nimely who will have to be on the 25-man squad this year if he stays at City. So, unless they want to lose the spot, and assuming Wright is gone, they'll need to sign another English player from somewhere before selling/loaning Sinclair.

Our home-grown players, by the way: Jagielka, Duffy, Baines, Hibbert, Gibson, Osman, Anichebe. So we're one short as it stands; it's not a huge problem as we don't need a huge squad since we're not in Europe anyway, but it would be nice to have a few more English players come through. And yes, I'm aware that Duffy and Gibson are both Irish, but the stipulation is that they spent 3 years prior to the age of 21 training at an English/Welsh club; Duffy has been with us for the required time (same with Anichebe), and Gibson of course with United.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 05, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Updated
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 05, 2013, 09:53:29 PM
Updated

When SoS1878 said a "British manager" did they mean nationality or location?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
I've got it on good authority that Roberto Martinez will be our new manager. Sorry I can't name the source but it is someone high up at goodison
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 05, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
When SoS1878 said a "British manager" did they mean nationality or location?

Nationality.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 06, 2013, 12:28:02 AM
Nationality.

bless
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 06, 2013, 12:43:10 AM
Can we get on to the serious ITK business of transfer stories now please?

:)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 06, 2013, 01:33:41 AM
Can we get on to the serious ITK business of transfer stories now please?

:)

Like this?

http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/242091/Everton-en-WBA-bieden-boze-Toivonen-een-oplossing.htm (http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/242091/Everton-en-WBA-bieden-boze-Toivonen-een-oplossing.htm)

Linked in the Dutch media to PSV and Sweden striker Ola Toivonen. Just a year left on his contract, and he seems upset that PSV have told him that he must renew his contract, be sold, or sit on the bench. About 4.5M Euros, supposedly, with WBA also interested.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 02:57:55 AM
Is fourth official really even getting half a point for that?  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 06, 2013, 02:59:01 AM
Is fourth official really even getting half a point for that?  lolol

I know, bit of a dodgy one but figured it wouldn't be right to say it was completely wrong.

But as with everything else in this thread, people can make up their own minds.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 06, 2013, 03:00:32 AM
I know, bit of a dodgy one but figured it wouldn't be right to say it was completely wrong.

But as with everything else in this thread, people can make up their own minds.

I think the scores are fair to be honest

Did you do dates last time round?  So the people who got the info out first got the point?

I'm not sure if that makes a difference?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 06, 2013, 03:05:16 AM
I think the scores are fair to be honest

Did you do dates last time round?  So the people who got the info out first got the point?

I'm not sure if that makes a difference?

I did yeah, all correct got points but it was so people could see who got it first.

I thought it would be harder this summer keeping on top of the dates so I decided against it. From now on though I'll add something to indicate who was first.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 06, 2013, 03:11:42 AM
I did yeah, all correct got points but it was so people could see who got it first.

I thought it would be harder this summer keeping on top of the dates so I decided against it. From now on though I'll add something to indicate who was first.

I'm not sure it matters too much to be honest, I just thought I remembered you had done dates and was too lazy to look in the Burrens to see!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2013, 03:28:54 AM
Props to our boy Shorty. The subscribers forum has given him a good platform to throw some news our way

Also fair play to Lcab obviously as well for calling that right

Has Fourth Official's stock fallen though?when is the last time he broke anything of note?

All we tend to get now is 'want a completely free £10 bet on tonights game?'and then petty arguments with fans of other clubs
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 06, 2013, 03:41:23 AM
All those people blowing smoke up lcab's arse make me feel uncomfortable.

Did anyone see his little dig at NSNO last night? I know rambo did.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
All those people blowing smoke up lcab's arse make me feel uncomfortable.

Did anyone see his little dig at NSNO last night? I know rambo did.

Yeah, he's a fucking mong isnt he.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 06, 2013, 03:47:24 AM
Yeah, he's a fucking mong isnt he.

Just clear at times how having a bit of web celeb status has gone to his head. I wonder who it was he was talking about last night? Something about asking him about his name?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2013, 03:49:57 AM
All those people blowing smoke up lcab's arse make me feel uncomfortable.

Did anyone see his little dig at NSNO last night? I know rambo did.

Have to say Ram handled himself very well in his twitter argument with Lcab. A credit to the forum that lad, if you cut him he would bleed nsno

I looked back on the Lcab thread before. Neither side really cover themselves in glory, though it has to be said I was sound as fuck throughout!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 03:53:39 AM
Have to say Ram handled himself very well in his twitter argument with Lcab. A credit to the forum that lad, if you cut him he would bleed nsno

I looked back on the Lcab thread before. Neither side really cover themselves in glory, though it has to be said I was sound as fuck throughout!

Haha, I would of carried on but it was one of them were I just knew I was right so there was no point in carrying it on.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 06, 2013, 03:56:56 AM
Page 2 on that thread I thought I was quite welcoming.

It was Bally's fault for having the audacity to claim he was called Bally. What a prick  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2013, 04:01:39 AM
Page 2 on that thread I thought I was quite welcoming.

It was Bally's fault for having the audacity to claim he was called Bally. What a prick  :whistle:

Have to say I think his theory that all people on forums are pricks and all those on twitter are legends is flawed.

First of all most of those on the forums have twitter as well

2nd of all theres a mix of sound people and pricks on here

3rd of all theres a mix of sound people and pricks on twitter!

I think I'm right on this one!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jellyman on June 06, 2013, 05:06:40 AM
I could see us going for Victor Moses.. Chelsea are signing alot of player so he'll have limited chances.

Roberto knows him very well
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: sirblue57 on June 06, 2013, 05:07:49 AM
Have to say I think his theory that all people on forums are pricks and all those on twitter are legends is flawed.

First of all most of those on the forums have twitter as well

2nd of all theres a mix of sound people and pricks on here

3rd of all theres a mix of sound people and pricks on twitter!

I think I'm right on this one!

after the BOTD thread, yeah, your ALWAYS right :smug:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 06, 2013, 02:55:27 PM
Ruh roh raggy:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-roberto-martinez-wants-1934916 (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-roberto-martinez-wants-1934916)

Quote
ROBERTO MARTINEZ hopes to make former Celtic star Aiden McGeady his first signing as Everton manager.

He immediately turned his attention to landing the Spartak Moscow winger after being unveiled as Goodison Park boss yesterday.

McGeady has spent the last three seasons in Russia but after refusing to sign a contract extension Spartak are keen to cash in this summer.

The 27-year-old left Parkhead for a Scottish record £9.5million transfer fee in 2010 although Everton will only have to shell out half that amount to get their man.Fulham and Sunderland are also in the hunt for the Republic of Ireland international, who has made it clear he wants to try his luck in the Premiership.

But Martinez is determined not to miss out for a second time after trying to sign him for Wigan during the January transfer window only for the deal to fall through at the 11th hour.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 06, 2013, 03:23:11 PM
Ruh roh raggy:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-roberto-martinez-wants-1934916 (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-roberto-martinez-wants-1934916)



He's not an awful player but not sure what he would give us.  We lack pace but signing players who seem to have it but nothing else isn't great.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 06, 2013, 03:47:15 PM
He's got some skillz and can go past players and as has been said, he's quick. Not really sure he would improve us a great deal though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on June 06, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
He's not an awful player but not sure what he would give us.  We lack pace but signing players who seem to have it but nothing else isn't great.
Check this link:
http://www.newstalk.ie/Why-is-Aiden-McGeady-thriving-at-Spartak-Moscow (http://www.newstalk.ie/Why-is-Aiden-McGeady-thriving-at-Spartak-Moscow)

In particular

Quote
In contrast Trap has mostly deployed McGeady on the left wing, whereas placing him on the right could allow him to form an exciting partnership with the buccaneering Seamus Coleman.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 06, 2013, 04:39:28 PM
I've always thought he was ok. If the price is right go for it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 07:14:36 PM
Better option than Naismith and improves the squad which is what we need. He's nowhere near as bad as some people on here reckon
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 06, 2013, 07:19:09 PM
I'd go a straight swap for Naismith then, although I'm hoping Moyes will buy him for Utd for several million pounds.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 06, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
I'd go a straight swap for Naismith then, although I'm hoping Moyes will buy him for Utd for several million pounds.

He's still under contract so surely he could sanction the deal from our end!

Although he'd have some work to convince someone their to put the bid in! :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 06, 2013, 07:24:24 PM
Better option than Naismith and improves the squad which is what we need. He's nowhere near as bad as some people on here reckon

I'd agree with that.

The caveat is, as always, could our money be better spent elsewhere?

I'd say it probably could; but he's in the not disappointed category which ever way it went.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
A proper ITK I know (Pam who works on the till) phoned up Everton this morning and asked when the new home kit is out cos she wanted to buy it as a present for her husband.  The answer she got was 'the end of July as weve had a problem'

So there you go

PAM - Kit out end of July
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
Do I get a point for my Charlie Austin exclusive?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 06, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
A proper ITK I know (Pam who works on the till) phoned up Everton this morning and asked when the new home kit is out cos she wanted to buy it as a present for her husband.  The answer she got was 'the end of July as weve had a problem'

So there you go

PAM - Kit off as Miss July

Oh yeah!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 06, 2013, 10:41:39 PM
Better option than Naismith and improves the squad which is what we need. He's nowhere near as bad as some people on here reckon

Completely agree.

He's not going to set the league alight but he's not even enarly as bad as some would have you believe.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 06, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
Completely agree.

He's not going to set the league alight but he's not even enarly as bad as some would have you believe.

The problem is thus: We need people who will set the league alight to get us to the next level. More Kevin Mirallass's'ss and less Naismiths's's'.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2013, 11:53:08 PM
The problem is thus: We need people who will set the league alight to get us to the next level. More Kevin Mirallass's'ss and less Naismiths's's'.

He will improve the squad tho, we need more squad players at the club.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 07, 2013, 12:09:49 AM
We only need a decent striker to have a team of top 4 quality, the problem is just the depth.

Just look at the immediate replacements:

GK: ? Springthorpe
RB: Hibbert, Stones
CB: Heitinga, Duffy
LB: Oviedo, Garbutt
RW/LW: ?
Cm: One of Gibson/Osman, Junior
CAM: Naismith/Barkley
ST: Anichebe/Jelavic
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 07, 2013, 02:14:46 AM
We only need a decent striker to have a team of top 4 quality, the problem is just the depth.

Just look at the immediate replacements:

GK: ? Springthorpe
RB: Hibbert, Stones
CB: Heitinga, Duffy
LB: Oviedo, Garbutt
RW/LW: ?
Cm: One of Gibson/Osman, Junior
CAM: Naismith/Barkley
ST: Anichebe/Jelavic


You've hit the problem full-on there, Shogun. The starting XI is fine, but having to play 8 or more of them week-in, week-out (I'm thinking cup matches in particular, as we saw what happened at Leeds) wears the squad down. The problem with a lot of the backups you have listed are that they are young and, though full of potential, massively unproven.

Ideally, we can grab a younger (say, 21-24 years old) keeper with some top league experience on the continent. Use him for cup matches, with the thought that he pushes Howard for the first-choice spot in a year or two's time. Bring in another wide player for depth--McGeady, McManaman, or McSomebody, just someone who can play at this level and not embarrass themselves so that the likes of Osman, Barkley, Naismith, etc. don't get pushed onto the wing. Another player through the middle, as beyond Fellaini/Gibson/Osman, we have no depth; ideally someone that can even push up further into more of a playmaker/#10 position at times. Then, of course, the big question of the source of goals up front; while Jelavic could certainly come good under Martinez, and Anichebe started to come on, having someone who is capable of 15+ goals is the big key.

You've also left out Kennedy from the wide midfield list, I think. And until Gueye moves on, he should probably be there as well. But I agree, we're not that far away from CL potential.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 07, 2013, 02:20:08 AM
Props to our boy Shorty. The subscribers forum has given him a good platform to throw some news our way

Also fair play to Lcab obviously as well for calling that right

Has Fourth Official's stock fallen though?when is the last time he broke anything of note?

All we tend to get now is 'want a completely free £10 bet on tonights game?'and then petty arguments with fans of other clubs

I had to unfollow Fourth Official because of the endless charity retweets and free bets, far easier just following him through here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Juanito on June 07, 2013, 03:07:01 PM
McGeady? Would he not cost quite a bit too for a player who would not set our squad alight? I would rather 5 million on Sinclair who is younger and from what I have seen, more talented, more potential. Or McMananaman, who would surely cost less. I think a winger is another priority as Piennar might come inside more with age and apart from Miralles, we have no other.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 07, 2013, 08:41:58 PM
Fer powered in a last-minute header last night to give Netherlands U21s a 3-2 victory over Germany. Any chance we go back in for him?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 07, 2013, 08:49:39 PM
Fer powered in a last-minute header last night to give Netherlands U21s a 3-2 victory over Germany. Any chance we go back in for him?
I'd be up fer it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: griff969 on June 07, 2013, 08:51:27 PM
One issue we have had for years has been a lack of pace. Our away record, where the ability to counter attack is so important, has not been great in terms of wins. The chances of catching a team on the break is greatly increased if you have pace in your team.

Look at Mirallas goal against Stoke, got the ball mid way through our half and beat everyone with pace to burn. I think Mirallas could be let off the leash by Martinez, and adding McGeady will give us another pacy option.

Imagine a front five of say Mirallas, Felliani, Pienaar, Gibson, McGeady and Anichebe/Jelavic

Could give us the new dimension Martinez has been talking about
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 07, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
One issue we have had for years has been a lack of pace. Our away record, where the ability to counter attack is so important, has not been great in terms of wins. The chances of catching a team on the break is greatly increased if you have pace in your team.

Look at Mirallas goal against Stoke, got the ball mid way through our half and beat everyone with pace to burn. I think Mirallas could be let off the leash by Martinez, and adding McGeady will give us another pacy option.

Imagine a front five of say Mirallas, Felliani, Pienaar, Gibson, McGeady and Anichebe/Jelavic

Could give us the new dimension Martinez has been talking about

Replace Gibson with Osman
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 07, 2013, 09:25:47 PM
Replace Gibson with Osman
Replace Gibson with Osman


Rotate
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 07, 2013, 09:48:50 PM
The problem is thus: We need people who will set the league alight to get us to the next level. More Kevin Mirallass's'ss and less Naismiths's's'.

Yes but nobody is talking about him as a first team player.

Look at Mirallas' injuries last season, should he have similar problems this year then McGeady would provide us with a much better back-up option than Naismith.

It would also allow us to give players like Mirallas and Pienaar a little more of a rest than they were afforded last season.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on June 07, 2013, 10:32:14 PM
Everton chasing Alcaraz and had talks with de Guzman (early stages)
- Sheeds
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 07, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
De Guzman is quite a good player.

Would be a good option at CM and he's fairly young so we would be getting his best years out of him.

Although he did have injury troubles at one point so something to be aware of.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 07, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
De Guzman is quite a good player.

Would be a good option at CM and he's fairly young so we would be getting his best years out of him.

Although he did have injury troubles at one point so something to be aware of.

He had a couple of seasons' worth of knee problems (both left and right) at Feyenoord, but that's 3 years past now. I imagine he'd move to Swansea permanently if Laudrup stays, unless Villareal want him back to try to cement their place in La Liga now that they're back up. But I'd certainly have him here, as he'd push Osman and Gibson for playing time.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 08, 2013, 12:05:38 AM
Everton chasing Alcaraz and had talks with de Guzman (early stages)
- Sheeds

Good to see we're already chasing players.

Would take both of them.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 08, 2013, 01:00:36 AM
Good to see we're already chasing players.

Would take both of them.

I'd take Alcaraz and use Heitinga's fee for other areas; assuming Duffy isn't absolutely miles away.

Edit: I'd mean I'd take de Guzman as well!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 08, 2013, 01:05:31 AM
I'd take Alcaraz and use Heitinga's fee for other areas; assuming Duffy isn't absolutely miles away.

I'd only take Alcaraz for 1-2 million, i'd really prefer we weren't signing 30 year olds when the squad is already old.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 08, 2013, 01:09:47 AM
I'd only take Alcaraz for 1-2 million, i'd really prefer we weren't signing 30 year olds when the squad is already old.

You can take him for free I think Danny!He's out of contract
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 08, 2013, 01:11:29 AM
I'd only take Alcaraz for 1-2 million, i'd really prefer we weren't signing 30 year olds when the squad is already old.

Alcaraz is free, his contract is up end of month.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Azz on June 08, 2013, 01:52:23 AM
I'd really like De Guzman brilliant at set pieces and can really ping a ball around and play the through ball.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 08, 2013, 02:55:57 AM
I'd really like De Guzman brilliant at set pieces and can really ping a ball around and play the through ball.

Should be good watching him slide balls past big Vic with his back glued to the defender. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Azz on June 08, 2013, 03:46:13 AM
Should be good watching him slide balls past big Vic with his back glued to the defender. 

Hahaha  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2013, 03:55:01 AM
I'd really like De Guzman brilliant at set pieces and can really ping a ball around and play the through ball.

Completely agree. Hugely under-rayed player, and would be delighted to see him come to us. Straight in the first team for me, and best years ahead of him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 08, 2013, 11:35:25 AM
http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/07/spurs-line-up-7million-transfer-for-bayern-munich-striker-mario-gomez-3832763/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/07/spurs-line-up-7million-transfer-for-bayern-munich-striker-mario-gomez-3832763/)

Apparently Mario Gomez is surplus to requirements at Bayern. For only 7 million, plus 70k/wk, I would hope there's enough money somewhere that we'd throw in a bid. Tottenham is always likely to have the upper hand due to European football, but maybe RM has some magic in him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 08, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/07/spurs-line-up-7million-transfer-for-bayern-munich-striker-mario-gomez-3832763/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/07/spurs-line-up-7million-transfer-for-bayern-munich-striker-mario-gomez-3832763/)

Apparently Mario Gomez is surplus to requirements at Bayern. For only 7 million, plus 70k/wk, I would hope there's enough money somewhere that we'd throw in a bid. Tottenham is always likely to have the upper hand due to European football, but maybe RM has some magic in him.


Surely that is even of affordable to us!. But I'm certain he'd have a lot of good clubs after him!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 08, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
Where have these de Guzman links come from?. I heard that if Villarreal made it back to La liga he'd like to go back there and not even sign for Swansea permanently. So I'm not sure if he'd fancy coming to us if that's the case, and no doubt Swansea will want him anyway and there in Europe so he may want to stick around there.

Would be a really good signing for us though, very good little player and felt we should of been in for him on a free a couple of years ago before he signed for Laudrup at Mallorca.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 08, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Where have these de Guzman links come from?. I heard that if Villarreal made it back to La liga he'd like to go back there and not even sign for Swansea permanently. So I'm not sure if he'd fancy coming to us if that's the case, and no doubt Swansea will want him anyway and there in Europe so he may want to stick around there.

Would be a really good signing for us though, very good little player and felt we should of been in for him on a free a couple of years ago before he signed for Laudrup at Mallorca.

I'm not sure whether Villarreal have the same money as they did before; if they don't there's no guarantee that they won't just be a bottom half of the table side.

Also we'd probably offer him more money.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 08, 2013, 04:22:27 PM
I'm not sure whether Villarreal have the same money as they did before; if they don't there's no guarantee that they won't just be a bottom half of the table side.

Also we'd probably offer him more money.

You know you're in trouble when Everton out-muscle you financially!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 08, 2013, 04:58:25 PM
Should be good watching him slide balls past big Vic with his back glued to the defender. 

In all fairness though - Jelavic was lethal in them first 6 months due to through balls and low crosses from wide positions.
Hopefully we bring in players who dont think diagonal balls at head height is the best way to service a striker. Which seemed to be Moyes' favourite approach for long periods
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 08, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
You can take him for free I think Danny!He's out of contract

Maybe I will then. I've never really rated him but for free if Martinez rates him i'm willing to trust him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 08, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
Atletico agree a fee for Negredo
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 08, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
Just couldn't ever really see Negredo coming off.

We'd probably pay more than Sevilla but it'd be a sideways step really for him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
Can we try to keep this to the ITK stuff, rather than it becoming a general "who I'd like" thread?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 08, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Can we try to keep this to the ITK stuff, rather than it becoming a general "who I'd like" thread?

What about a "rumours" thread where people can post links to Newspapers and internet rumours and discuss them, that would prevent a topic being opened on every player linked and keep this for supposed ITK's only.  Just a thought
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2013, 10:25:52 PM
What about a "rumours" thread where people can post links to Newspapers and internet rumours and discuss them, that would prevent a topic being opened on every player linked and keep this for supposed ITK's only.  Just a thought

Yup, I think there may be a rumour thread started a few weeks back if someone wants to bump it, or start another.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 10, 2013, 01:39:42 AM
Interesting stuff from Evertonarntwe on twitter. Anyone know his credentials?

I know he was one of the first to break the badge stuff
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on June 10, 2013, 01:42:34 AM
What has he written?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 10, 2013, 01:52:55 AM
What has he written?

Saying that money was made available for Moyes to spend and he chose not to
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 10, 2013, 02:04:26 AM
Anyone believe that?

Sent from Mrs Cake's house
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 10, 2013, 02:06:43 AM
Anyone believe that?

Sent from Mrs Cake's house

I could believe that as an example the Fer money was still available after we pulled out of that deal, and he chose not to spend it as he didn't think there was anyone available worth spending it on.  But that's slightly different to what I assume has been suggested.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 10, 2013, 02:38:01 AM
I could believe that as an example the Fer money was still available after we pulled out of that deal, and he chose not to spend it as he didn't think there was anyone available worth spending it on.  But that's slightly different to what I assume has been suggested.

No it's been suggested that he had money to spend on a few occasions and flat refused to spend it!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 10, 2013, 02:44:26 AM
No it's been suggested that he had money to spend on a few occasions and flat refused to spend it!

Seems odd, but believable. I think if moyes felt he was having his pants pulled down, or that the right players simply weren't available me for the money he had, I think he'd rather walk away.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 10, 2013, 03:22:01 AM
Anyone onto Indykalia News? My mate swears by him and looking at his profile he seems legit. Anyway saying we're in for Bojan on loan
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 10, 2013, 03:40:11 AM
Anyone onto Indykalia News? My mate swears by him and looking at his profile he seems legit. Anyway saying we're in for Bojan on loan


Be a good deal, said it on another thread days ago, loan with a view to buy. Would suit the No.10 role behind the striker down to a tee IMO!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 10, 2013, 03:47:10 AM
THT ‏@THT1878  9m 
@LeroyFer8 ... Looking forward to seeing you at #EFC Leroy !!! #COYB
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 10, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
That tweet wasn't based on anything, he just wants him to play here.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 11, 2013, 04:54:35 AM
Ladies and gents, I give to you - Kevin Mirallas smoking a bong. YOU'RE WELCOME. Paul Daly (PaulDaly90) on Twitter (http://pic.twitter.com/8nmDSiNXJU)

Posted earlier!!
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 11, 2013, 06:38:53 AM
Ladies and gents, I give to you - Kevin Mirallas smoking a bong. YOU'RE WELCOME. Paul Daly (PaulDaly90) on Twitter (http://pic.twitter.com/8nmDSiNXJU)

Posted earlier!!

Err no you don't his twitter account is protected.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on June 11, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
Err no you don't his twitter account is protected.

Will this do?


(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/e5b549a6d21311e2a1bd22000a9f1361_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 11, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
Jesus H Christ that could ruin his career  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jamokachi on June 11, 2013, 09:31:54 AM
That's a type of hookah pipe, not a bong.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Steppeone on June 11, 2013, 10:23:38 AM
Haha not even close to being a bong. Definitely a hookah pipe.

 :bonk:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 11, 2013, 01:38:30 PM
Haha isnt it just shisha?they do it at the Lebanese restaurant in town, I had a grape flavoured one and it was really nice
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 11, 2013, 03:10:08 PM
just flavoured tobacco isn't it
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on June 11, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
off-topic but just to tell you Everton v Spurs 1983 coming up on ITV4 anytime now
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 11, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
Jesus H Christ that could ruin his career  shakeyheadman

 lolol

Get a fucking grip lad
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 11, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
lolol

Get a fucking grip lad

Easy over-reaction to have for a non drug taker  :), Don't knock clean living son... Stupidity i'll accept  :blush:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 11, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
lolol

Smoking a hooka is definitely not a problem, you don't even inhale the smoke for God's sake!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: KingdingalingNL on June 12, 2013, 03:18:17 AM
Am I the only one creeped out at the way he is looking at the camera??
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2013, 03:23:30 AM
off-topic but just to tell you Everton v Spurs 1983 coming up on ITV4 anytime now

Alanvideo is an ITK for all the tv schedule news!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Juanito on June 12, 2013, 02:57:18 PM
Actually, no. Its the equivalent of ten ciggies. They are much more dangerous than ciggies, as they have no filter to stop the amount of smoke going into your lungs. The whole point of it, is you inhale it to get the effects...we are not meant to smoke into our lungs, it is carcinogenic.

Probably a one off....if he did do it regularly... might explain why he is knackered after 70 mins!!
Title: Alcaraz
Post by: Juanito on June 12, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/12-13/rumour-mill/24897.html? (http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/12-13/rumour-mill/24897.html?)

Roberto Martinez will pick up Antolin Alcaraz on a free transfer from Wigan this summer and offer him a two-year contract at Everton, report The Mirror.
The 30 year-old had an injury-hit campaign for the Latics in Martinez's last season in charge but the Paraguay international would represent good value for the Blues if he can regain his fitness for next term.

Should this speculation prove correct, it would likely hasten John Heitinga's departure from Goodison. The Dutch midfielder has indicated he could look at offers this summer and with him entering the final year of his contract, Everton may feel it's better to cash in now for an estimated £4m than lose him for nothing in a year's time.


Makes sense to me, seems like when fit, he is a good player and was their man of the match most games he played in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on June 12, 2013, 05:11:51 PM
He came back from injury in March, they went 4 games unbeaten and he got Wigan player of the month.
Title: Re: Alcaraz
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 12, 2013, 09:10:21 PM

Makes sense to me, seems like when fit, he is a good player and was their man of the match most games he played in.

This. He's a reliable enough defender, is experienced with the manager so could help out in the locker room, and (most importantly) is free. He wouldn't necessarily start for us barring injury or suspension, but would be a reasonable option on low wages. Bring him in, move Heitinga if he wants to go, and get in another young CB to compete with Duffy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on June 13, 2013, 01:56:20 AM
I'd like to see us flog Heitinga, get Alcaraz on a free, and maybe try and get Lescott back here for a low price.

Man city where talking about letting him go for as little as £4M last year, not sure if it will change due to a new manager coming in but I think he would be a good option, fit straight back in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on June 13, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
I'd like to see us flog Heitinga, get Alcaraz on a free, and maybe try and get Lescott back here for a low price.

Man city where talking about letting him go for as little as £4M last year, not sure if it will change due to a new manager coming in but I think he would be a good option, fit straight back in.

Can't see Lescott coming back now Moyes has gone TBH
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2013, 02:14:15 AM
I'd like to see us flog Heitinga, get Alcaraz on a free, and maybe try and get Lescott back here for a low price.

Man city where talking about letting him go for as little as £4M last year, not sure if it will change due to a new manager coming in but I think he would be a good option, fit straight back in.

Were Man City banding about a £4m figure or was that paper talk?

Surely they wouldn't be talking up a potential £20m loss on him!though I'm not sure how long he has left on his current contract
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on June 13, 2013, 02:22:34 AM
Can't see Lescott coming back now Moyes has gone TBH

Maybe not but if we make an offer maybe his mind might be swayed.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on June 13, 2013, 02:23:22 AM
Were Man City banding about a £4m figure or was that paper talk?

Surely they wouldn't be talking up a potential £20m loss on him!though I'm not sure how long he has left on his current contract

Think £4M was the price being touted about.

This may have been Mancini saying he would let him go though, not the club in general.

This may change when Pellegrini comes in.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 02:33:07 AM
Last tweet on #Arsenal they have already made two main signings, they are Fellaini and Julio Cesar, there was a hitch with Cesar last week.

Some agent or other. Must be about the 4/5th time i have read fellaini to arsenal tonight
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 13, 2013, 03:08:47 AM
Were Man City banding about a £4m figure or was that paper talk?

Surely they wouldn't be talking up a potential £20m loss on him!though I'm not sure how long he has left on his current contract

He has 1yr left and is 31 in August so cant see him going for much, i'd say less than £4mill.  LCAB & THT seem to be sure that he would more than welcome a return.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 13, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
Can't see Lescott coming back now Moyes has gone TBH

Surely if anything Moyes not being here would only make it more likely given how the two parted company..
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2013, 03:18:13 AM
He has 1yr left and is 31 in August so cant see him going for much, i'd say less than £4mill.  LCAB & THT seem to be sure that he would more than welcome a return.

Cheers. That makes a bit more sense than I first thought
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 04:03:57 AM
Last tweet on #Arsenal they have already made two main signings, they are Fellaini and Julio Cesar, there was a hitch with Cesar last week.

Some agent or other. Must be about the 4/5th time i have read fellaini to arsenal tonight

Anyone with an ounce of credibility reported it?

I've read that he's fucking off about 100 times in the last year and he's still here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on June 13, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
I'd like to see us flog Heitinga, get Alcaraz on a free, and maybe try and get Lescott back here for a low price.

Man city where talking about letting him go for as little as £4M last year, not sure if it will change due to a new manager coming in but I think he would be a good option, fit straight back in.

I'd agree with this. Can we get away with 4 senior CB tho with no european football?? All wanting to play, would think jags and lescott would be first choice, then you would have Distin and alcaraz fighting for very few minutes, which I don't think either would be happy doing.

IMO think we would possibly have to go with 3 snr and a young one. Unless of course Martinez is thinking of playing 3 at the back often enough to keep all happy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on June 13, 2013, 02:30:40 PM
Lescott? Would be expensive, expensive salary plus he's old. And on top of that, his transfer issue when he went. So No No No.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
I know he was great for us but is Lescott even that good anymore?

Would he really push Distin out of the team? because I doubt he'd come to be a back up.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 13, 2013, 05:55:19 PM
rather Williams than alcaraz
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
rather Williams than alcaraz

How much would williams cost tho?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2013, 06:40:47 PM
How much would williams cost tho?

There's surely no debate once the comparative outlays are thought about!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 06:43:34 PM
There's surely no debate once the comparative outlays are thought about!
Thats what I was thinking
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 13, 2013, 07:41:49 PM
We shouldn't be spending much if anything on a defender if they aren't going to overtake Distin straightaway.  That's why Alcaraz I can take in, Williams not so much.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 13, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
Lescott? Would be expensive, expensive salary plus he's old. And on top of that, his transfer issue when he went. So No No No.


Not long left on his contract is there?  He's not 31 yet, so not too old.  I wouldn't grumble if he came back on the cheap/loan. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 13, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
Not long left on his contract is there?  He's not 31 yet, so not too old.  I wouldn't grumble if he came back on the cheap/loan. 

True, but they may need him to make up their English quota.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 13, 2013, 09:45:39 PM
Is Ashley Williams even that good?

Really confused about why people are so keen on him if he is going to cost close to 10 million and probably not be any better than Distin or Jags.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on June 14, 2013, 01:51:42 AM
Not long left on his contract is there?  He's not 31 yet, so not too old.  I wouldn't grumble if he came back on the cheap/loan. 
l

He's on a massive salary.
He turns 31 in 2 months.
We should be looking for a player that will play years to come, not a player with a big salary that will be released in a few years.
Have people forgotten about his behavior when he asked for transfer?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 14, 2013, 03:59:31 AM
Is Ashley Williams even that good?

Really confused about why people are so keen on him if he is going to cost close to 10 million and probably not be any better than Distin or Jags.

think he quite decent myself, he will costs about 6mill maybe though, better option than alcaraz imo, younger too
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jonny on June 14, 2013, 04:36:24 AM
Defenders. Yay!  :eh:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 04:38:10 AM
Defenders. Yay!  :eh:

Whats wrong with getting some defenders in?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 04:54:49 AM
Not related to us but apparently Drenthe is having a medical at Reading  lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on June 14, 2013, 01:36:51 PM
Not related to us but apparently Drenthe is having a medical at Reading  lolol

Unbelievable really, if his head wasn't such a mess he'd still offer a lot in our squad.

What a waste, and you just know he'll mess up at reading too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 14, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
Unbelievable really, if his head wasn't such a mess he'd still offer a lot in our squad.

What a waste, and you just know he'll mess up at reading too.

Given Readings proximity to the bright lights of London, its a ticking time bomb.

That said, if he got his head together whilst out in the footballing wilderness he will be a very useful player for them. Once to watch!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 14, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Would take Drenthe back in a second!raw talent. Who cares if he likes a drink?!he still produces the goods when pissed and hungover
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: tonysoprano on June 14, 2013, 05:49:25 PM
Drenthe in 8 years as a "profesional " spread over 5 clubs has made 65 appearances, tells you all you need to know, a cart of the first order
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2013, 06:25:02 PM
Drenthe in 8 years as a "profesional " spread over 5 clubs has made 65 appearances, tells you all you need to know, a cart of the first order

Agreed Tony, If somehow tho Reading keep him on straight and narrow he will be a very good signing........ I cant see that happening sadly
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
Agreed Tony, If somehow tho Reading keep him on straight and narrow he will be a very good signing........ I cant see that happening sadly

Yeah if they somehow get him playing he'll be moving back to the prem in January, can't see it though.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
His stint in russia might have been wake up call. Not for one second am I sorry he left at the time though.

Sent from Koom valley
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
His stint in russia might have been wake up call. Not for one second am I sorry he left at the time though.

Sent from Koom valley

That article about Moyes saving his career was just after he moved to Russia I think, maybe he's realised that he doesn't want to spend his whole career in somewhere like that again.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 07:54:04 PM
He isnt even that good. He's all pace a dribbles with a decent shot. Has the footballing intelligence of a gnat.

Give me a Leon Osman or Steven Pienaar anyday
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 14, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
His stint in russia might have been wake up call. Not for one second am I sorry he left at the time though.

Sent from Koom valley

If I could go back in time and convince Moyes to start Drenthe instead of Gueye in the Semi I would do!

Not that I want to open the debate again but really he should have at least been on the bench, even if he was beaheaded after the game by Moyes. We had fuck all options to change it that day

With Pienaar cup tied, and Cahill no longer having an effect on games. The creative burden fell on the shoulders of Leon Osman and Magaye Gueye. Gueye was utterly anonymous and Osman that day deserved all the criticism that sharpattack usually has for him

McFadden was never realistically going to be used, we well should have had Royston on the bench. Most direct, creative, fastest midfield player available.

It was like going in to a gun fight with a pen knife and leaving a shotgun at home
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2013, 08:00:26 PM
The argument being Drenthe should not have put Moyes in that position
I think he should have just picked someone out the crowd, or had a john smiths style cut out on the pitch instead of Gueye
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 14, 2013, 08:07:20 PM
The argument being Drenthe should not have put Moyes in that position
I think he should have just picked someone out the crowd, or had a john smiths style cut out on the pitch instead of Gueye

Yeah I would have been happy for Drenthe to have been thrown in the bin straight after. But first and foremost I'd be thinking theres a semi final and its a derby, should I stick with the guy who trains well and on time but is rubbish in games, or the one who scores and assists for fun and has effect on games but is a total prick?my conclusion every time is Drenthe. Even just as a sub

Agreed I would have started anyone from the crowd ahead of Gueye
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
He looked better than he actually was because he was a winger with pace. Something we've never had under Moyes bar Donovan.

Mirallas is 10 times the player, and he's not a fucking liability on the pitch
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: plumber on June 14, 2013, 08:15:07 PM
Even Drenthe himself has enough brain to understand he shouln't have been near the bench.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
If I could go back in time and convince Moyes to start Drenthe instead of Gueye in the Semi I would do!

Not that I want to open the debate again but really he should have at least been on the bench, even if he was beaheaded after the game by Moyes. We had fuck all options to change it that day

With Pienaar cup tied, and Cahill no longer having an effect on games. The creative burden fell on the shoulders of Leon Osman and Magaye Gueye. Gueye was utterly anonymous and Osman that day deserved all the criticism that sharpattack usually has for him

McFadden was never realistically going to be used, we well should have had Royston on the bench. Most direct, creative, fastest midfield player available.

It was like going in to a gun fight with a pen knife and leaving a shotgun at home

He let the whole club down in the run up to that game, fans, coaches, team mates etc, there's no way he should have been near the pitch, he probably wasn't sober enough to play anyway.

You and TRVP are the only people still beating the drum that he should have played that day, enough said.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2013, 08:43:57 PM
Yeah I would have been happy for Drenthe to have been thrown in the bin straight after. But first and foremost I'd be thinking theres a semi final and its a derby, should I stick with the guy who trains well and on time but is rubbish in games, or the one who scores and assists for fun and has effect on games but is a total prick?my conclusion every time is Drenthe. Even just as a sub

Agreed I would have started anyone from the crowd ahead of Gueye

There are different levels of being a prick though.

It's no good if he plays well but other players are worse as they're not happy with Drenthe or the way he was treated in comparison with others who do do the right things.

Also if we'd have won the semi with Drenthe playing, how would Moyes have justified no picking him for the final?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 14, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
He let the whole club down in the run up to that game, fans, coaches, team mates etc, there's no way he should have been near the pitch, he probably wasn't sober enough to play anyway.

You and TRVP are the only people still beating the drum that he should have played that day, enough said.

Haha the 2 best posters on here!my criticism is probably aimed at Moyes. I paid a few hundred quid on that day to get down to Wembley and watch the game. In my opinion I would prefer a greater chance to win the game than to dish out a lesson in life to those who break rules. Drenthe was more likely to produce the goods than Gueye or Mcfadden, therefore he should have either started instead of Gueye or on the bench instead of Mcfadden

After the game we terminate the contract of Drenthe regardless but at least we were potentially getting what we paid him for one last time!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2013, 08:52:18 PM
Haha the 2 best posters on here!my criticism is probably aimed at Moyes. I paid a few hundred quid on that day to get down to Wembley and watch the game. In my opinion I would prefer a greater chance to win the game than to dish out a lesson in life to those who break rules. Drenthe was more likely to produce the goods than Gueye or Mcfadden, therefore he should have either started instead of Gueye or on the bench instead of Mcfadden

After the game we terminate the contract of Drenthe regardless but at least we were potentially getting what we paid him for one last time!

Judging by the stories, it's highly unlikely that he would have produced the goods given the apparent state he was in the week before the game.

And how would that have looked if we had terminated his contract straight after the game if he'd scored or assisted the winning goal or put in MOM performance? It's not just how a case of "he should have played" it's the whole affect his selection could have had on the team and himself, it would say that you can disrespect everyone at the club and be a general cunt, but you'll still get to play in our biggest game of the season.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
You've also got to take into account how much it undermines Moyes if he plays Drenthe in the semi, would make a twat out of him infront of all the players.
Title: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 14, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
If drenthe played that day other players who missed out that day would rightly be pissed .  You can't make exceptions because they have a bit of skill

Sent from Koom valley
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
If drenthe played that day other players who missed out that day would rightly be pissed .  You can't make exceptions because they have a bit of skill

Sent from Koom valley

Mcfadden and Gueye have both left anyway. Let them get upset,  they didn't deserve to play in a final anyway but at least if Drenthe had played they could have watched from better seats

sent from round are way
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2013, 09:48:04 PM
Mcfadden and Gueye have both left anyway. Let them get upset,  they didn't deserve to play in a final anyway but at least if Drenthe had played they could have watched from better seats

sent from round are way

Exactly. Who gives a fuck what two shitty footballers thought.

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: SPJ on June 14, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
I've always thought Drenthe should have played, you play your best team to win games, simple as that. Any other issues you deal with seperately and let's be honest none of us know what really happened or how bad it was compared to what other players have done/do. I think it was more about Moyes's ego and control freak mentality.

Footballers get paid a fortune but everyone seems to be worried about their poor delicate little state of mind if the naughty Drenthe had played, it's bollocks. I'm sure the whole squad would have felt happy enough if we'd won the semi final and got to the final.
Moyes got it wrong big time, Gueye was, as we all knew he would be, totally anonymous whereas Drenthe would have scared the shit out of the shite and given us the outlet we badly needed in the second half.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Exactly. Who gives a fuck what two shitty footballers thought.

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It's not those footballers.

It's the good ones who actually played as well.

What's the point of them doing the right thing week in week out? They can act the tit and still play if Drenthe does (did).

Sooner or later the overall level starts to drop as more players think that they can't be arsed either.

I honestly can't believe there's a debate about this.

All he had to do was turn up on time.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 14, 2013, 11:25:31 PM
It's not those footballers.

It's the good ones who actually played as well.

What's the point of them doing the right thing week in week out? They can act the tit and still play if Drenthe does (did).

Sooner or later the overall level starts to drop as more players think that they can't be arsed either.

I honestly can't believe there's a debate about this.

All he had to do was turn up on time.

uber this
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 14, 2013, 11:30:18 PM
I never understand why people debate on rumour alone the decision of a manager who had all the facts.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: wepull on June 14, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
It's not those footballers.

It's the good ones who actually played as well.

What's the point of them doing the right thing week in week out? They can act the tit and still play if Drenthe does (did).

Sooner or later the overall level starts to drop as more players think that they can't be arsed either.

I honestly can't believe there's a debate about this.

All he had to do was turn up on time.

This.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2013, 12:18:56 AM
It's not those footballers.

It's the good ones who actually played as well.

What's the point of them doing the right thing week in week out? They can act the tit and still play if Drenthe does (did).

Sooner or later the overall level starts to drop as more players think that they can't be arsed either.

I honestly can't believe there's a debate about this.

All he had to do was turn up on time.

At that point, 90 minutes away from a final, you want your best side out. We may just as well started with 10 men with Geueye in the side. I don't think one game would have sent the wrong message out really. It was a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I'm sure getting to the final and then having a good chance of winning it would have overshadowed the fact he played. Even as a sub. Rules are good to have, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to break or bend them once in a while.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: wepull on June 15, 2013, 12:26:36 AM
At that point, 90 minutes away from a final, you want your best side out. We may just as well started with 10 men with Geueye in the side. I don't think one game would have sent the wrong message out really. It was a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I'm sure getting to the final and then having a good chance of winning it would have overshadowed the fact he played. Even as a sub. Rules are good to have, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to break or bend them once in a while.

And what if players like Baines, Jagielka and Pienaar decide to do it the next time round. Then you do nothing to them too. Drenthe knew the rules, he knew he had to follow them. It's his immature behaviour which let both him and team down.

And there is no guarantee that he would have been effective too. Probably would have had a stinker and most would have been blaming Moyes that he bent rules to accommodate a player who didn't even care about the rules, team and the fans.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 15, 2013, 12:27:13 AM
take it elsewhere guys.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2013, 12:52:41 AM
It's not those footballers.

It's the good ones who actually played as well.

What's the point of them doing the right thing week in week out? They can act the tit and still play if Drenthe does (did).

Sooner or later the overall level starts to drop as more players think that they can't be arsed either.

I honestly can't believe there's a debate about this.

All he had to do was turn up on time.

This.

I wouldn't mind working for some of the people on here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 15, 2013, 01:09:33 AM
This.

I wouldn't mind working for some of the people on here.

Interview Monday, 8:30 am Gate 1, dress sharp.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 15, 2013, 01:21:51 AM
This.

I wouldn't mind working for some of the people on here.

Well said
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2013, 02:00:19 AM
Interview Monday, 8:30 am Gate 1, dress sharp.  :whistle:

Is it ok if I arrive at 11am, drunk?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 15, 2013, 02:07:21 AM
Is it ok if I arrive at 11am, drunk?

That's quite tame that considering the place is full of rock 'eads. You wonder how some of them even got an interview.

Go for it!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 02:11:18 AM
Is it ok if I arrive at 11am, drunk?

If you are good at doing you're job then that's fine  :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
We would of lost even if Drenthe played. End of.

Move on, get over it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 02:21:31 AM
We would of lost even if Drenthe played. End of.

Move on, get over it.

Without him we lost. With him we might not have, but we'll never know for sure, so I'm happy to end the debate there
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 02:26:11 AM
Right back to business

Everton Alliance aka Silas' fave twitter page say Alcaraz is done and dusted and he will join us July 1st
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2013, 02:28:18 AM
Whats this Im hearing about Martinez saying Heitinga has no future here?

Please god please!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 15, 2013, 02:29:37 AM
Right back to business

Everton Alliance aka Silas' fave twitter page say Alcaraz is done and dusted and he will join us July 1st
arent they sorry he spouting general shit? Prob true this tho

Ram... heitinga has said he wont extend his contract
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 02:32:35 AM
Heitinga out Alcaraz in makes sense really, get a bit of money in for JH (realistically about 2mil I reckon) and save a fair bit on wages for a back up centre back. No more than 1 other Wiganer though please Roberto!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2013, 02:33:35 AM
arent they sorry he spouting general shit? Prob true this tho

Ram... heitinga has said he wont extend his contract

(http://carliecrash.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/anigif_enhanced-buzz-11661-1342447920-9.gif)
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 15, 2013, 02:34:33 AM
Heitinga out Alcaraz in makes sense really, get a bit of money in for JH (realistically about 2mil I reckon) and save a fair bit on wages for a back up centre back. No more than 1 other Wiganer though please Roberto!
yeah am with this.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 15, 2013, 02:39:55 AM
yeah am with this.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on June 15, 2013, 03:50:31 AM
Not ITK this.
But anyway
Chap I was chatting to today, who has a lot of coaching contacts - but probably knows nothing of our transfer comings and goings - said he'd heard about us considering Odemwingiethingy from west brom.
As I say - not suggesting its actually happening but would be a decent squad filler for the expected fee of 2-3 million. Not a starter for me though - although probably a better option off the bench than what we have.
Made a right muppet of himself last window though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 15, 2013, 04:02:57 AM
^ that, was the funniest thing i think i have ever seen in a transfer window
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
Not ITK this.
But anyway
Chap I was chatting to today, who has a lot of coaching contacts - but probably knows nothing of our transfer comings and goings - said he'd heard about us considering Odemwingiethingy from west brom.
As I say - not suggesting its actually happening but would be a decent squad filler for the expected fee of 2-3 million. Not a starter for me though - although probably a better option off the bench than what we have.
Made a right muppet of himself last window though.

Not having a pop at you at all for the possible info, but do we really want a mercenary arsehole in our squad, regardless of value or whatever else? Not for me anyway, thanks.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on June 15, 2013, 04:56:47 AM
Not having a pop at you at all for the possible info, but do we really want a mercenary arsehole in our squad, regardless of value or whatever else? Not for me anyway, thanks.
I agree to be fair - would be ok as a possible squad filler but that's about it. As I say though its not really info that I'd regard as ITK or anything similar. Don't believe it myself but its a discussion point if nothing else.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on June 15, 2013, 05:00:28 AM
Not having a pop at you at all for the possible info, but do we really want a mercenary arsehole in our squad, regardless of value or whatever else? Not for me anyway, thanks.
It's really hard to say what really went on there but one thing's for sure: almost every player is a mercenary if it comes down to it. Ode made a clown of himself, but it's absolutely certain similar kind of things happen all the time, we just don't hear about them.

Players think about themselves first, everything else comes a distant second. My issue with him is that he's 31 so he'd be stop-gap at best.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 15, 2013, 06:28:36 PM
Right back to business

Everton Alliance aka Silas' fave twitter page say Alcaraz is done and dusted and he will join us July 1st

You noticed that huh.  Load of lying cunts. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
You noticed that huh.  Load of lying cunts. 

Haha.yeah, but I am too polite to use that sort of language David!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 15, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
Haha.yeah, but I am too polite to use that sort of language David!

So am I usually Ste but they drive me to it

Sent from Koom valley
Title: Re: Re: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
So am I usually Ste but they drive me to it

Sent from Koom valley

Quite funny how they went from saying 'we want to storm Bill's office at Goodison and return with his head on a spike and seize control of the club'

To

'We think the best thing to do is set up a direct debit  to Mr Kenwright's personal account, buy as much merchandise with the new badge on as you can and support the team'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: billbones80 on June 15, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
No way are we going for Odemwhinge....I have a feeling we'll go for a couple of cheaper strikers from foreign markets.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 17, 2013, 05:24:20 AM
Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
#Everton fans you have had a bid accepted for FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer, will be a replacement for The departing Fellaini #EFC

   Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
Just personal terms to be agreed with Fer now #Everton #EFC

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 17, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
That would be great if true
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 17, 2013, 01:06:44 PM
Would love it if we could keep Fellaini like and have the two of them, I mean, was there any sign we were selling Fellaini in the January transfer window?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 01:40:06 PM
Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
#Everton fans you have had a bid accepted for FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer, will be a replacement for The departing Fellaini #EFC

   Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
Just personal terms to be agreed with Fer now #Everton #EFC
O0
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 17, 2013, 03:22:05 PM
Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
#Everton fans you have had a bid accepted for FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer, will be a replacement for The departing Fellaini #EFC

   Football Agent Jim ‏@AgentJim_  34m 
Just personal terms to be agreed with Fer now #Everton #EFC



I'll take that with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 17, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
Agent Jim.

FFS.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 17, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
Agent Jim.

FFS.

Yeah, he's mates with Special Agent Oso and Inspector Gadget.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 17, 2013, 09:24:59 PM
O0

I don't suppose we could convince Fer to grow his hair like Fellaini, and have the two fro's in central midfield?

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 17, 2013, 10:53:46 PM
That would be great if true

i wouldn't call it great. it's a risk like. i'd like to see some figures too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 12:54:39 AM
I dont want Fer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on June 18, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
I dont want Fer.

Yeah, I prefer them shaven meself
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 01:15:04 AM
I dont want Fer.

Just out of interest, why not?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 01:23:29 AM
I dont want Fer.
how come? Who you want instead?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 01:30:30 AM
how come? Who you want instead?

no doubt he wants Carsley back instead of Fer
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 18, 2013, 01:36:36 AM
Ram out, Fer in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 01:55:22 AM
I want more of a ball player, someone who can create from the middle. Kind of like a more mobile Tom Huddlestone.

Cue he's shite
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 01:56:46 AM
I want more of a ball player, someone who can create from the middle. Kind of like a more mobile Tom Huddlestone.

Cue he's shite
always liked huddlestone.. Good passing range and shot. Him and fer would be good partnership
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 18, 2013, 02:00:36 AM
Huddlestone is too slow for me but he's got a decent game to him.   Wouldn't be awful but we would need quicker next to him
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Eddie on June 18, 2013, 02:01:13 AM
Huddlestones shite!  :evil:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 02:01:54 AM
always liked huddlestone.. Good passing range and shot. Him and fer would be good partnership

If Huddlestone was more mobile and less injury prone he would be great.

Just seen a lot of talk about selling Fellaini and getting in Fer to replace him, not having that, weakens us greatly that does.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 18, 2013, 02:07:24 AM
Would hope Fer wasnt the only target if fellaini went anyway though ram we have lost numbers already with Neville and hitz leaving
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 18, 2013, 02:29:29 AM
Huddlestone makes Osman look like Usain Bolt. We need some mobility in the middle.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:34:14 AM
If Huddlestone was more mobile and less injury prone he would be great.

Just seen a lot of talk about selling Fellaini and getting in Fer to replace him, not having that, weakens us greatly that does.

We would need 2/3 players with the felaini money. Cant see fer being a direct replacement

If Huddleston was more mobile be defo regular international

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 03:22:37 AM
We are usually linked with some terrible players Ram. Fer and Nacer Chadli are amongst the better ones we have been linked with!Seems mad that you wouldn't want either of them!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on June 18, 2013, 03:25:01 AM
We would need 2/3 players with the felaini money. Cant see fer being a direct replacement

If Huddleston was more mobile be defo regular international

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Don't agree with the 2/3 players with Fellaini money. We have some money available and the likes of heitinga guaye Naismith, even poss jelavic that would raise sufficient funds for bringing in a few players.

IF Fellaini goes (who is a marque player) we MUST sign a top class striker with his money. Quality over quantity within reason!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 03:28:05 AM
Don't agree with the 2/3 players with Fellaini money. We have some money available and the likes of heitinga guaye Naismith, even poss jelavic that would raise sufficient funds for bringing in a few players.

IF Fellaini goes (who is a marque player) we MUST sign a top class striker with his money. Quality over quantity within reason!
if we get rid of fellaini, gueye, naismith, heitinga on top of losing Neville, hitz, mucha etc we will need to buy ten players
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 18, 2013, 03:37:35 AM
You have to think in terms of a squad and not just a first eleven.  Getting rid of the fringe players sounds great in theory but we have a small enough squad as it is.  Unless Stones, Barkley, Vellios and Mc Aleny at the very least are ready for first team action, we have to be looking at adding more numbers on top of whoever we replace.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 03:38:55 AM
You have to think in terms of a squad and not just a first eleven.  Getting rid of the fringe players sounds great in theory but we have a small enough squad as it is.  Unless Stones, Barkley, Vellios and Mc Aleny at the very least are ready for first team action, we have to be looking at adding more numbers on top of whoever we replace.
and its been shown on more than one occasion that velios in particular isn't. Barkley/stones maybe and mcaleny sub at best
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 18, 2013, 03:56:45 AM
Huddlestones shite!  :evil:

And injury prone.

And has the turning circle of the Graf Spee.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 18, 2013, 04:49:10 AM
We'd be better off getting Parker than Huddlestone on the subject.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 04:49:51 AM
We'd be better off getting Parker than Huddlestone on the subject.

How?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 04:50:28 AM
We'd be better off getting Parker than Huddlestone on the subject.
Huddleston still relatively young
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 04:54:44 AM
Huddleston still relatively young

And relatively talented
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 18, 2013, 04:57:05 AM
And relatively talented
Yet still way down the pecking order (even below Parker) for years.

Also 26 is not young for a footballer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 05:01:34 AM
Yet still way down the pecking order (even below Parker) for years.

Also 26 is not young for a footballer.
its not old either
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 18, 2013, 05:04:29 AM
We shouldn't be going for either of them. How can we expect to compete with Tottenham by picking up players who haven't been good enough for them for years?

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 05:09:05 AM
Yet still way down the pecking order (even below Parker) for years.

Also 26 is not young for a footballer.

And 32 is?

Huddlestone still has re sale value at least. Not that I give a fuck about that tbh
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 18, 2013, 05:17:29 AM
And 32 is?

Huddlestone still has re sale value at least. Not that I give a fuck about that tbh

Didn't say it was.

Huddlestone would spend most of his time injured as he has done in his seven years at Spurs. He spent 18 months out with a knee injury not so long ago and he's obviously come back brilliantly to be behind Sandro, Dembele, Tom Carroll and Parker in the pecking order.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
We could do witha younger, better version of either Huddlestone or Parker, who has resale value.

Maybe that Leroy Fer who plays for Twente
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on June 18, 2013, 11:20:22 AM
Didn't say it was.

Huddlestone would spend most of his time injured as he has done in his seven years at Spurs. He spent 18 months out with a knee injury not so long ago and he's obviously come back brilliantly to be behind Sandro, Dembele, Tom Carroll and Parker in the pecking order.
this 


We could do witha younger, better version of either Huddlestone or Parker, who has resale value.

Maybe that Leroy Fer who plays for Twente
and this
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 18, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
We could do witha younger, better version of either Huddlestone or Parker, who has resale value.

Maybe that Leroy Fer who plays for Twente

:)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 18, 2013, 03:26:13 PM
We could do witha younger, better version of either Huddlestone or Parker, who has resale value.

Maybe that Leroy Fer who plays for Twente

Nah, he comes from the Dutch league so is obviously guff.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on June 18, 2013, 04:14:56 PM
Nah, he comes from the Dutch league so is obviously guff.
Funny thing is quite a few will agre with this.  I've stopped counting the numbers off classplayers coming out from the Dutch League
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 18, 2013, 06:05:06 PM
Funny thing is quite a few will agre with this.  I've stopped counting the numbers off classplayers coming out from the Dutch League

Well, the dutch league must be producing some good players or the national team is going to be shit in 5 years time when the current crop of stars start to retire from national football.

There must be some players of note coming though. Hopefully Fer is one of them.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
I never said players from the dutch league are shite. Just dont get how people cream over someone they've hardly seen, above players that have at least proved themselves to be good Prem players.

Would rather have Mcarthy, he has a bit of quality on the ball. From what I've seen of Fer he's all pace and power not enough quality on the ball.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 07:34:47 PM
I never said players from the dutch league are shite. Just dont get how people cream over someone they've hardly seen, above players that have at least proved themselves to be good Prem players.

Would rather have Mcarthy, he has a bit of quality on the ball. From what I've seen of Fer he's all pace and power not enough quality on the ball.

Nar lid, Fer's better and half the price of McCarthy
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 07:35:57 PM
I never said players from the dutch league are shite. Just dont get how people cream over someone they've hardly seen, above players that have at least proved themselves to be good Prem players.

Would rather have Mcarthy, he has a bit of quality on the ball. From what I've seen of Fer he's all pace and power not enough quality on the ball.

If the "rumours" are true tho your talking Fer £8m, Mcarthy £20m

I think we need pace and power and a box to box midfielder personally........ even more so if Fellaini sods off
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 18, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
You can't ignore the price of players unfortunately.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
No fucking way is he worth 20mil tho. 10mil and he will be ours. Rather him for 10mil than Fer for 8
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 18, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
No fucking way is he worth 20mil tho. 10mil and he will be ours. Rather him for 10mil than Fer for 8

Maybe if we sell Fellaini we can buy both!

Fer-ly sure that Leroy will prove you wrong though
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 18, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
To be honest i'd prefer Fer thought we treated him terribly last year and he still wants to come here, that to me says a lot about his character. Another reason is the less we have to deal with that toe rag Whelan the better. He will try to screw us out of every penny and if we cant afford the fee, you can bet it will be plastered everywhere, every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 18, 2013, 08:36:08 PM
Fer-ly sure that Leroy will prove you wrong though

Anyone who looks like 'son-of-Distan' will suely be awesome?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 09:07:55 PM
Maybe if we sell Fellaini we can buy both!

Fer-ly sure that Leroy will prove you wrong though

Im not saying he's shite or anything, just know there will be better options out there for us.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 20, 2013, 02:17:53 AM
Says we've opened talks with Macnelly Torres on Twitter. Experienced, creative attacking midfielder. He's 28 years old and yet to land a move away from his homeland. That concerns me.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 02:20:25 AM
Says we've opened talks with Macnelly Torres on Twitter. Experienced, creative attacking midfielder. He's 28 years old and yet to land a move away from his homeland. That concerns me.
who?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 20, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
Says we've opened talks with Macnelly Torres on Twitter. Experienced, creative attacking midfielder. He's 28 years old and yet to land a move away from his homeland. That concerns me.

the only thing i know about him is that BBC's south(central?)american correspondent recently said that Falcao plays better when torres plays because torres has the ability to slip through balls in behind the defence.

sounds alright?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 20, 2013, 02:27:52 AM
Says we've opened talks with Macnelly Torres on Twitter. Experienced, creative attacking midfielder. He's 28 years old and yet to land a move away from his homeland. That concerns me.

He's Colombian.

I'm in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 02:29:37 AM
the only thing i know about him is that BBC's south(central?)american correspondent recently said that Falcao plays better when torres plays because torres has the ability to slip through balls in behind the defence.

sounds alright?
     brilliant

Sign him up bob
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on June 20, 2013, 02:52:36 AM
He's Colombian.

Loves the beak?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 20, 2013, 03:04:24 AM
Loves the beak?

Makes the beak actually.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 20, 2013, 03:16:42 AM
Makes the beak actually.

Then has a coffee.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 20, 2013, 03:21:20 AM
Says we've opened talks with Macnelly Torres on Twitter. Experienced, creative attacking midfielder. He's 28 years old and yet to land a move away from his homeland. That concerns me.

Seems strange for us to start talks on Twitter rather than face to face, or at least on the phone?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 03:22:53 AM
Seems strange for us to start talks on Twitter rather than face to face, or at least on the phone?
get in the 21st century gash.... Its a new world
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 20, 2013, 03:23:55 AM
Sounds interesting, and he would apparently only cost £2m which puts him in our league.  A brief bit of research shows him to be renowned for his creativity mainly supplying ammunition for strikers, we could do with a player like that for sure.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on June 20, 2013, 03:32:36 AM
Sounds interesting, and he would apparently only cost £2m which puts him in our league.  A brief bit of research shows him to be renowned for his creativity mainly supplying ammunition for strikers, we could do with a player like that for sure.

I know what you mean but there wasn't so much a problem with creating chances for our strikers that let us down last year, definitely more a case of our strikers not converting their chances.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: sam of the south on June 20, 2013, 03:34:05 AM
Sounds interesting, and he would apparently only cost £2m which puts him in our league.  A brief bit of research shows him to be renowned for his creativity mainly supplying ammunition for strikers, we could do with a player like that for sure.

That's Naismith's forte  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 03:40:20 AM
the only thing i know about him is that BBC's south(central?)american correspondent recently said that Falcao plays better when torres plays because torres has the ability to slip through balls in behind the defence.

sounds alright?

He makes Falcao look good.

Im in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 20, 2013, 03:41:44 AM
He makes Falcao look good.

Im in

we just need a falcao now.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 20, 2013, 03:45:53 AM
No idea who he is, but  a Torres/Fer/Alcaraz triple signing would excite me very much
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 20, 2013, 03:52:17 AM
I know what you mean but there wasn't so much a problem with creating chances for our strikers that let us down last year, definitely more a case of our strikers not converting their chances.

I agree that the bigger problem was strikers not putting away chances, but I still think a central player who can really unlock defences is something that we've lacked for a number of years.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 20, 2013, 03:54:05 AM
No idea who he is, but  a Torres/Fer/Alcaraz triple signing would excite me very much

And keeping baines and fellaini.

I'd be happy with that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 20, 2013, 03:56:05 AM
Can we get Torres for cheap from Chelsea. I would love t see Torres slips a pass for torres who plays a one two with Torres, Torres back heel to Torres and Torres scores. What a move by Torres'.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 20, 2013, 03:57:31 AM
I agree that the bigger problem was strikers not putting away chances, but I still think a central player who can really unlock defences is something that we've lacked for a number of years.

deffo. plus i'd like to see some more of our chances be slipped through balls that split a defence and leave the keeper facing a striker, rather than the ball dropping in the box or flashing across the back post and hoping jela can jam a foot on it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 20, 2013, 03:58:52 AM
Sounds interesting, and he would apparently only cost £2m which puts him in our league.  A brief bit of research shows him to be renowned for his creativity mainly supplying ammunition for strikers, we could do with a player like that for sure.


Apparently his release clause is just less than £2m!. Unheard of but a Colombian national team regular and according to English, south American based journo's, he can pick a pass!. Also according to English, south American based journo's, Falcao seems to enjoy playing with him due to his ability to play accurate through balls and does better in the side when Torres is in the side compared to when he isn't?!.

Must admit, went on youtube to have a peak at what he was like, and the video is 4 years old but you can see the ability he as to pick a pass!. Always looking forward when on the ball and always looking to put passes into dangerous areas.

May well be a load of bollocks these links but that's the kind of player we need playing in behind the striker, someone who always tries to create and can create something out of nothing!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 20, 2013, 04:01:57 AM
MACNELLY TORRES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsN_qCrYVXI#)

he just spends every game pressing triangle
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 04:04:11 AM
MACNELLY TORRES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsN_qCrYVXI#)

he just spends every game pressing triangle
ha best colombian in the pl since Hamilton ricard?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 20, 2013, 04:06:59 AM
He makes Falcao look good.

Im in

can he do the same for Anichebe?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 20, 2013, 04:07:05 AM
deffo. plus i'd like to see some more of our chances be slipped through balls that split a defence and leave the keeper facing a striker, rather than the ball dropping in the box or flashing across the back post and hoping jela can jam a foot on it.


This. By the stats we may well of created alot of chances, but how many of those were clear cut, or through balls where are striker was one on one with the keeper?. Not many i bet!.

Alot of are play in past few years as been build up play out wide, predominantly down the left, and by going long from the back and getting on the end of flick ons, playing the percentages!.

We need to be able to have that attacking midfielder who can unlock defences at ease with a pass that most of our midfield cant seem to spot. We need that Coutinho type that can create out of nothing, play that through ball when that's the last thing that looks on!.

Jelavic would thrive off a player like him. you watch Jela and he's always on the shoulder of the last defender, looking to get in behind, but yet he never gets that pass that splits a defence and leaves him one on one!.

We need to add more strings to our bow and we know we've got a strong left hand side that's creative, and we have pace and trickery down the right now with Coleman and Mirallas, through the centre we just lack a bit of creativity. Felli is the work horse and gets a foot in and adds bite to our midfield and Gibbo adds that calmness on the ball and keeps us ticking over, we just need that creative link between Gibbo & Felli to link the play and set our striker up.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 04:12:02 AM
Just watched him on youtube. He's boss, does some stuff Zidane can only dream of.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 20, 2013, 04:28:19 AM
Brilliant name, it's like Fernando McClatchie.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 20, 2013, 04:40:09 AM
Just watched him on youtube. He's boss, does some stuff Zidane can only dream of.

Go easy on my kid. he is only 7 months old.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 04:41:36 AM
Go easy on my kid. he is only 7 months old.
how are the kids con?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 20, 2013, 04:45:36 AM
Brilliant name, it's like Fernando McClatchie.

or Jose Baxter.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 20, 2013, 04:51:42 AM
how are the kids con?

Fantastic mate. Keeping us busy but growing fast. My "little" guy weighs 21 pounds, 10kg. Eats everything we give him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Brownie20 on June 20, 2013, 05:00:51 AM
Fantastic mate. Keeping us busy but growing fast. My "little" guy weighs 21 pounds, 10kg. Eats everything we give him.

The new Oz Du Randt?
Title: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 20, 2013, 05:05:11 AM
The new Oz Du Randt?


Funny you should say, that's his nickname at home

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/3aqy4y6u.jpg)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 20, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/mujuqu9a.jpg)

Its him again!

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 20, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Oh no he didn't!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 20, 2013, 08:37:25 PM
Heh - the first rule of football ITK tweets is to use a website dedicated to showing tweets from only the reliable football ITKs... ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 20, 2013, 08:51:30 PM
open the NZogbia thread again.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 20, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
oh god, here we go..
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 20, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
Everyone who makes up and posts shit like this (on twitter) should have their twitter account deleted and a punch in the face from David Haye
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 21, 2013, 03:03:03 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/mujuqu9a.jpg)

Its him again!

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2


He's not the worst for rumours on twitter but i wouldn't mind that at all tbh. Alot of us would of gladly had him off Wigan 3 years ago and who ever says they wouldn't of is a liar!.

Was a cracking player at Wigan when playing under Martinez and on the right wing cutting in, making things happen, McLeish bought him for Wigan and played him down the left to less effect and knocked his confidence for six and he hasn't been the same player since!.

IF we could get him on the cheap and on reduced wages then he'd be a good signing as he's still at a good age.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Brownie20 on June 21, 2013, 05:03:45 AM
Funny you should say, that's his nickname at home

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/3aqy4y6u.jpg)

Hahaha brilliant.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 21, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
Funny you should say, that's his nickname at home

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/3aqy4y6u.jpg)

Why do you have a bird house in your living room Con?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on June 21, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
Are these toddlers ITK or is this thread a waste of time?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jamokachi on June 21, 2013, 10:30:45 AM
They're our new signings. Modelling our new kits, and pitch.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 21, 2013, 11:37:31 AM

Why do you have a bird house in your living room Con?

Cat scratching post mate but good spot anyway

Are these toddlers ITK or is this thread a waste of time?

They about as ITK as any of the ITK's in this thread mate. My little girl cried when I showers her TPG's picture but she smiled at RM when we were still looking for a manager.

I said Nzogbia and my son puked, he got very excited at when I mentioned Moses. Could Verm add them to the list of iTK's and see is they beat LCAB
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 21, 2013, 02:27:34 PM
Sounds as though Nzogbia may miss the start of the season anway. Given the Fer saga, I suspect we'd be steering well clear of any player with any injury.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villla-charles-nzogbia-could-4693775 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villla-charles-nzogbia-could-4693775)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 04:03:31 PM
Sounds as though Nzogbia may miss the start of the season anway. Given the Fer saga, I suspect we'd be steering well clear of any player with any injury.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villla-charles-nzogbia-could-4693775 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villla-charles-nzogbia-could-4693775)


Richard Wright-esque stuff!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 22, 2013, 02:32:36 AM
Yowzers :whistle:

Quote
Daniel Busch ‏@dan_bu 3m
Aleksandar Dragovic way too expensive for HSV. Everton and Lazio still in for him. He's reportedly not really interested in Lazio though.
 Retweeted by FootballITK.com
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 22, 2013, 02:50:43 AM
Yowzers :whistle:


If only. Hamburg apparently low-balled Basel with a 2.5M Euro offer, when they want 8M. But I would love Dragovic here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 23, 2013, 03:01:53 AM
Quote
The Highbury Stand ‏@HighburysStand 9h
Arsenal have a 90k contract offer on the table for Marouane Felliani player wants Arsenal. Everton want £23m #afc

The Highbury Stand ‏@HighburysStand 3h
Felliani Is likely to accept the contract offer by on the table by Arsenal.  #afc

The Highbury Stand ‏@HighburysStand 2h
I believe the Higuain and Felliani deals can be "done"  before pre season.  After a lot of movement this morning regarding Felliani.  #afc
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 23, 2013, 04:02:20 AM
Surely there can only be a contract offer on the table if weve accepted a bit and given him permission to speak to them?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 23, 2013, 04:21:32 AM
Surely there can only be a contract offer on the table if weve accepted a bit and given him permission to speak to them?

just like with Arteta, we gave permission to speak before we accepted their offer
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 23, 2013, 05:15:38 AM
just like with Arteta, we gave permission to speak before we accepted their offer

That was all a bit last minute though, the situation is much different this time.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 23, 2013, 05:32:35 AM
M
Surely there can only be a contract offer on the table if weve accepted a bit and given him permission to speak to them?

Making him their highest paid player is the biggest issue in that piece of shite.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 06:12:02 AM
Surely there can only be a contract offer on the table if we've accepted a bit and given him permission to speak to them?


Clubs always go to agents of players there interested in and offer them terms or talk numbers before clubs even make bids, happens all the time these days.

It's on bluekipper that he's definitely a goner to either Arsenal or United and they think cos he's recently moved to Manchester, United are the favourites.

Think he'll go, it's just a matter of when not if!.

Get our money, replace him and add more to the team. Duncan Castle reckons we've asked Celtic to keep us informed about the goings on with Wanyama as were not in a position to be until Felli leaves.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 23, 2013, 02:02:27 PM
M
Making him their highest paid player is the biggest issue in that piece of shite.

They have players on more than that.

Also Higuain is going in at £130k p/w.

I doubt he'd be getting paid £50k more than their current biggest earner.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on June 23, 2013, 03:30:36 PM

It's on bluekipper that he's definitely a goner to either Arsenal or United and they think cos he's recently moved to Manchester, United are the favourites.

I could see the guy claiming it also took credit for telling people Laudrup wouldn't be our new manager..  Woow  I could have told you this. Laudrup is so un-Everton it's unbelievable. Don't usually go to bluekipper so can't comment on this rumour is for real ?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 23, 2013, 05:31:46 PM

Clubs always go to agents of players there interested in and offer them terms or talk numbers before clubs even make bids, happens all the time these days.

It's on bluekipper that he's definitely a goner to either Arsenal or United and they think cos he's recently moved to Manchester, United are the favourites.

Think he'll go, it's just a matter of when not if!.

Get our money, replace him and add more to the team. Duncan Castle reckons we've asked Celtic to keep us informed about the goings on with Wanyama as were not in a position to be until Felli leaves.

A lot of our players live in Manchester.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 06:39:19 PM
A lot of our players live in Manchester.


I know they do but i was trying to highlight the point, cos they think cos he's recently moved there, he's United bound, which he may well end up being, but its not guaranteed is it.

I think he'll go anyway and Martinez needs to get this out of him come beginning of pre season and get him sold quickly so he can use the money on strengthening and improving our squad!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 23, 2013, 07:55:54 PM
He moved at least a year ago.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 23, 2013, 08:13:16 PM
He moved at least a year ago.

So you're saying he knew Ferguson was leaving too?? It all ties together. :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
He moved at least a year ago.


I heard it was roughly 6 months ago, but even if it's a year, it's still recently, considering he's been at the club 6-7 years.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 23, 2013, 09:07:58 PM

I heard it was roughly 6 months ago, but even if it's a year, it's still recently, considering he's been at the club 6-7 years.

He's been here 5 years.

Anyway it's a long time ago in reference to which club he's likely to be signing for.

It's not as though he's only moved there since Moyes has gone there.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: plumber on June 23, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
I remember he said he moved to Manchester because he was being mobbed by women in Liverpool. He is not recognised in Manchester that much and can have personal life there.


Hopefully that means he won’t join United :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
He's been here 5 years.

Anyway it's a long time ago in reference to which club he's likely to be signing for.

It's not as though he's only moved there since Moyes has gone there.


He's been at the club 6 years this year. And by all accounts he moved to Manchester recently cos he doesn't get as recognised over there as he did on Merseyside (with a 6ft 4" frame and wig like he as?!).

But i think if Man Utd had wanted Felli, they'd of made there moves by now, unless Moyesy doesn't think he is worth his release clause, as he would know exactly what it is?!.

Anyway, according to SSN Arsenal are privately confident of landing Felli once the Higuain deal is tied up, which they hope to get sorted by the end of today or tomorrow as there in Spain concluding discussions.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 23, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Doesent fucking matter where the lanky cunt lives.

Tim Cahill lived in Manchester for years.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 23, 2013, 11:03:56 PM
Doesent fucking matter where the lanky cunt lives.

Tim Cahill lived in Manchester for years.

Exactly.

So did Lescott and he never went to...





:)

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 24, 2013, 03:32:46 AM
I remember he said he moved to Manchester because he was being mobbed by women in Liverpool. He is not recognised in Manchester that much and can have personal life there.


Hopefully that means he won’t join United :)


So when he buys a place in Liverpool, you'll know he's off to Utd then.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on June 24, 2013, 12:09:44 PM
They have players on more than that.

Also Higuain is going in at £130k p/w.

I doubt he'd be getting paid £50k more than their current biggest earner.

Oh I don't know, arsenal don't pay the wages of utd, city, Chelsea etc. There more in line with spurs and Liverpool. Arteta had to take a paycut when moving there.

I do think arsenal will increase there wage budget over the next few years tho..
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 24, 2013, 11:07:16 PM
Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose  52s 
Birmingham City have accepted bids from 2 Premier League clubs for Nathan Redmond

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 24, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose  52s 
Birmingham City have accepted bids from 2 Premier League clubs for Nathan Redmond



He tweeted some bollocks in January and Everton told him to take it down, what was that again?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 24, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
Ian Abrahams ‏@BroadcastMoose  1m 
Swansea @nickyfran75 and Norwich is he rumour @JamesNursey

 
 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 26, 2013, 08:33:59 PM
Whatever happened to all the ITKs?

I remember we used to be swamped with rumours from Agent ITK and the Fouth offical and T-BaG/LcAb whatever his name is.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 26, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
Fourth Official said he's on holiday and starting again in July, LCAB and THT are still going but there's no news to report on, and I think the Echo are still out of favour with the club so GOK is feeding off scraps.

Plenty of ITKs from other clubs doing sterling work already this window - PM me if you want an easy way to follow them...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 26, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
Fourth Official said he's on holiday and starting again in July, LCAB and THT are still going but there's no news to report on, and I think the Echo are still out of favour with the club so GOK is feeding off scraps.

Plenty of ITKs from other clubs doing sterling work already this window - PM me if you want an easy way to follow them...

Not interested in other clubs TBH but keep up the stirling work.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Scholar on June 26, 2013, 09:45:06 PM
Fourth Official said he's on holiday and starting again in July, LCAB and THT are still going but there's no news to report on, and I think the Echo are still out of favour with the club so GOK is feeding off scraps.

Plenty of ITKs from other clubs doing sterling work already this window - PM me if you want an easy way to follow them...

http://footyscene.com/everton-fc-little-update/#more-3079 (http://footyscene.com/everton-fc-little-update/#more-3079)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cassius on June 27, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
Fourth Official said he's on holiday and starting again in July, LCAB and THT are still going but there's no news to report on, and I think the Echo are still out of favour with the club so GOK is feeding off scraps.

Plenty of ITKs from other clubs doing sterling work already this window - PM me if you want an easy way to follow them...

When Fourth Official goes on holiday, the transfer world stops a turning!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 02:20:46 AM
That sheedy fella saying alcaraz done... Kone a very likely signing too
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on June 27, 2013, 02:29:31 AM
That sheedy fella saying alcaraz done... Kone a very likely signing too

Worrying
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 02:38:46 AM
That sheedy fella saying alcaraz done... Kone a very likely signing too

Sorry haven't been following this thread...Sheedy? Reliable as ITKs go?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 02:42:55 AM
Sorry haven't been following this thread...Sheedy? Reliable as ITKs go?
ish
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 27, 2013, 02:52:19 AM
That sheedy fella saying alcaraz done... Kone a very likely signing too

That should help an already ageing squad.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 03:00:43 AM
That should help an already ageing squad.
nothing brings the age down like two 30 somethings. :-
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 27, 2013, 03:24:33 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/06/26/blues-make-enquiries? (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/06/26/blues-make-enquiries?)

Quote
Everton have made enquiries for two players, chairman Bill Kenwright has revealed.

Manager Roberto Martinez had previously revealed his desire to move quickly in the transfer market and has now identified a list of potential targets.

Speaking to the media following Wednesday's General Meeting of Everton shareholders, Mr Kenwright said: "Roberto hasn't met the squad yet and it's difficult for me to talk for him. But, like me, he thinks they are fantastic, wants to keep hold of that group and wants to bring in two or three players in the positions we need them.

"He [Roberto] has been away and you will always find that 1 July onwards - because that's when the current contracts end - that's when it will start.

"We've got now, as we talk, two enquiries going on for two players.

"Roberto is back at the weekend and he's raring to go."
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 03:26:52 AM
Mcgeady and alcaraz
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 27, 2013, 03:36:50 AM
That sheedy fella saying alcaraz done... Kone a very likely signing too


Same Sheedy that said we was in talks with de Guzman?. We may well sign Alcaraz, it's not impossible cos he's free and a former player of Martinez's, but pinch & salt springs to mind with him im afraid
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 03:42:04 AM

Same Sheedy that said we was in talks with de Guzman?. We may well sign Alcaraz, it's not impossible cos he's free and a former player of Martinez's, but pinch & salt springs to mind with him im afraid
dunno first time i have really seen him
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 27, 2013, 03:48:31 AM
nothing brings the age down like two 30 somethings. :-

Alcaraz is on a free, and Kone is 29.

For 5mil more below its decent value. Over that and Im sceptical.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 03:49:53 AM
Alcaraz is on a free, and Kone is 29.

For 5mil more below its decent value. Over that and Im sceptical.
small wages too... Maybe. Squad fillers i just hope we use the fellaini money better
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 27, 2013, 06:06:29 AM
So,  Alcatraz and Kone to be confirmed on Friday. Decent additions but would want to see us bring in some genuine quality. We'll struggle to stand still unless we do.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on June 27, 2013, 08:33:39 AM
Alcaraz yes. Don't want Kone
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 27, 2013, 08:42:43 AM
Alcaraz yes. Don't want Kone

Agreed. Not an improvement on our current strikers. Would be a waste of 5 mill. If we've hardly got anything to spend, let's at least go for a young striker with potential who's scored a lot of goals at a lower level, or in a less reknowned league (in the mould of Benteke, before Villa got him). For fuck's sake, I am trying to stay optimistic about this summer and next season, but it's getting harder to when you read some of the stuff coming out of the AGM and the players we're linked with.

Not to mention the incompetent pricks running the commercial side of the business.
 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: david smallman on June 27, 2013, 02:13:22 PM
So,  Alcatraz and Kone to be confirmed on Friday. Decent additions but would want to see us bring in some genuine quality. We'll struggle to stand still unless we do.
Bang on there with the sky money clubs will be buying quality to catch up with our club.
We are desperate for midfield cover and a back up keeper as well and we all know if fellaini stays we will have nothing to spend.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cassius on June 27, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
I can't make my mind up about Kone. I thought he was excellent against us at their place last season and wonder whether his pace and goals would have got us closer to Europe.

If he was to score us 12-15 goals a season for the next two years then for £5m we would struggle to get better. However because we're paupers, I'll always be thinking about resale value and whether we could spend that money on someone who may stick around for longer and be more valuable to us in the long-term.

So in conclusion, I'll let Roberto decide how the money is spent.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 27, 2013, 03:56:08 PM
THT tweeted Alcaraz and Kone nearly completed. Doesn't say how much Kone is costing though
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
LCAB has tweeted 3 to be completed by Monday he thinks, Alcaraz, Kone and Mcgeady, well we lost 3 in Nev, Hitz and Mucha. 3 for 3 ?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 27, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
Inspirational stuff.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on June 27, 2013, 04:29:50 PM
LCAB has tweeted 3 to be completed by Monday he thinks, Alcaraz, Kone and Mcgeady, well we lost 3 in Nev, Hitz and Mucha. 3 for 3 ?

THT tweeted Alcaraz and Kone nearly completed. Doesn't say how much Kone is costing though

Are these two characters mates?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 04:31:10 PM
Inspirational stuff.

Cheers mate  lolol, I do my best :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
Are these two characters mates?
yes
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 27, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
Cheers mate  lolol, I do my best :thumbsup:

It's nothing personal.  :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 04:38:04 PM
It's nothing personal.  :)

Ye I know found it funny that's all, about Kone I think if he was younger say 26 /27 people on here would think him a very good signing, from the clips of Wigan and against us, he's always impressed me. Think he would work well with Jelavic myself.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 04:43:07 PM
He wouldn't be a bad signing at all for the short term but he is very much a short term option
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on June 27, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
yes

So it's likely that if one gets it right or wrong the other does as well?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 04:46:38 PM
So it's likely that if one gets it right or wrong the other does as well?

Yeah both are connected. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: marky v on June 27, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
LCAB has tweeted 3 to be completed by Monday he thinks, Alcaraz, Kone and Mcgeady, well we lost 3 in Nev, Hitz and Mucha. 3 for 3 ?


That must be around £10m - seems a bit much for squad fillers not good enough for the first 11
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
Ye I know found it funny that's all, about Kone I think if he was younger say 26 /27 people on here would think him a very good signing, from the clips of Wigan and against us, he's always impressed me. Think he would work well with Jelavic myself.

Doubt we'll be playing with 2 up front.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
Doubt we'll be playing with 2 up front.

Did RM play one or two up front for Wigan ? Cant remember myself
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Azz on June 27, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
Quote
BK: "Roberto is back at the weekend and he's raring to go."

Makes sense as to what LCAB & THT are saying about signings being nearly done and Monday maybe being the announcement day.  Suppose it'll be nice for Roberto to walk into Finch Farm on Monday and see his mates Kone and Alcaraz.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on June 27, 2013, 05:34:17 PM
Did RM play one or two up front for Wigan ? Cant remember myself

Eight.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on June 27, 2013, 05:40:24 PM
Did RM play one or two up front for Wigan ? Cant remember myself

3-4-3 was what he played I think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 27, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
352 wasn't it
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
3-4-3 was what he played I think

Yeah this is what they've played in the last 18 months or so.

When he first went there he played 4-2-3-1.


Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 27, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Mostly 3-4-3. Hope these rumours aren't true. Happy with Alcaraz, the other two are mediocre and not great business.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
Eight.

Haha...Cool
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
I think he will go back to 4231
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 27, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
I think he will go back to 4231

Me too.

Our back 4 is pretty much established and shouldn't really be fucked with. Its the 6 players in front, especially the front 4 that need the most coaching/re-organising/kicking up the arse
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
I think he will go back to 4231

Yeah or 4-3-3 although they're much the same with a few tweaks.

I can't think that he won't be influenced by the players that we have.

While he played 3-4-3 at Wigan, players like Figueroa and Boyce who were often the wider CBs are actually big full backs. They fitted in to being able to move out with the ball or play as a solid defender.

We don't really have that mix of defenders as they're either small full backs or CBs who can, at an inconvenient stretch, play as full backs.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
He would have to play a rigid 3-5-2 for it to work, I doubt we will see anything more than subtle changes in style.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 27, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
Cardiff are about to sign that Danish fella cornelius , who we were linked with
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 07:58:38 PM
Hello Chaps.

As you may or may not have noticed I've been absent fpr 2 weeks now so am somewhat out of the loop with all things 'ITK'

So if anyone's feeling generous and fancies knocking up a short list of who's said what and what's happened I'd be eternally grateful! :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 27, 2013, 08:01:38 PM
Hello Chaps.

As you may or may not have noticed I've been absent fpr 2 weeks now so am somewhat out of the loop with all things 'ITK'

So if anyone's feeling generous and fancies knocking up a short list of who's said what and what's happened I'd be eternally grateful! :)

apparently alcaraz and kone are nearly done, that's all really

THT and LCAB I think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 27, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
Cardiff are about to sign that Danish fella cornelius , who we were linked with

Plus Swansea have signed Bony, who were were also linked with.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
apparently alcaraz and kone are nearly done, that's all really

THT and LCAB I think

With Mc Geady very close as well.  Again THT and Lcab. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
apparently alcaraz and kone are nearly done, that's all really

THT and LCAB I think

Cheers ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 08:05:21 PM
Obviously not the only ones reporting it, honestly no clue who broke it first.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 08:07:33 PM
With Mc Geady very close as well.  Again THT and Lcab. 

Thanks :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 08:08:02 PM
I'm off to Canada on Monday for 2 weeks so Updates will be slow but I'll keep on top of them the best I can.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
I'm off to Canada on Monday for 2 weeks so Updates will be slow but I'll keep on top of them the best I can.

Jammy get. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 27, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
Hello Chaps.

As you may or may not have noticed I've been absent fpr 2 weeks now so am somewhat out of the loop with all things 'ITK'

So if anyone's feeling generous and fancies knocking up a short list of who's said what and what's happened I'd be eternally grateful! :)

It would appear dejo85 was wrong about Baines.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
It would appear dejo85 was wrong about Baines.

Shocking!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 27, 2013, 08:41:43 PM
It would appear dejo85 was wrong about Baines.

He did break the Holtby to Everton, Vertonghen to Arsenal and Bendtner to Ajax exclusives though so he does usually get it right!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
I'm off to Canada on Monday for 2 weeks so Updates will be slow but I'll keep on top of them the best I can.

You going to Toronto? Or elsewhere?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 09:45:21 PM
You going to Toronto? Or elsewhere?

Toronto.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
LCAB has tweeted 3 to be completed by Monday he thinks, Alcaraz, Kone and Mcgeady, well we lost 3 in Nev, Hitz and Mucha. 3 for 3 ?

McGeady going in goal?

Bad jokes aside that's a fair chunk of money for a lot of averageness.

I think we're seeing what Martinez used to do at Wigan - as I believe when they did sell a player for a decent fee he bought in a few players rather than one marquee signing. Moyes seemed like he'd prefer to bet his money on one or two aiming for the best 11 he could and hope nobody got injured.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
The BBC have quoted the Times as saying that Utd have bid £12m for Baines.

I'd imagine it's nothing more than the Baines to Utd story has come to the front of the revolving rumour wheel that most media sources use at this time of year.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on June 27, 2013, 10:05:05 PM


Manchester United have made a bid for Leighton Baines as David Moyes looks to reunite with the Everton and England left back at Old Trafford.

Baines said this week that he was looking forward to working under Roberto Martinez, Moyes’s successor as Everton manager, but United’s approach is certain to turn his head.

It was unclear this afternoon exactly how much United have offered but the bid is thought to be in the region of £10 million to £12 million, with Baines about to enter the final two years of his contract at Goodison Park.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3802036.ece (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3802036.ece)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 27, 2013, 10:06:48 PM
must have some good contacts that LCAB, looks like a right smackhead
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
It would appear dejo85 was wrong about Baines.
spoke to soon?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 10:36:01 PM
spoke to soon?

Haha.

Gash has properly jinxed this for us.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 10:36:15 PM
The BBC have quoted the Times as saying that Utd have bid £12m for Baines.

I'd imagine it's nothing more than the Baines to Utd story has come to the front of the revolving rumour wheel that most media sources use at this time of year.

Wasn't the reporter one of the ones who broke the Moyes to Man Utd story? Or am I making that up?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on June 27, 2013, 10:37:54 PM
in metro also not that it means much



David Moyes has made his first move in an attempt to lure Everton’s Leighton Baines to Old Trafford this summer, after putting in an opening bid for the left-back.

Moyes is keen for the 28-year-old to follow him to Manchester United as the Scot looks to stamp his mark on Sir Alex Ferguson’s squad.

Baines was signed by Moyes for Everton in 2007 for £6m and the England international has gone from strength to strength in his six years on Merseyside, so much so his value has doubled in that time, with Manchester United believed to have opened the bidding at around £12m.

Baines currently has two years remaining on his Everton contract and the Toffees were thought to have been in negotiations over an extended deal in an attempt to ward off any advances from the Premier League champions.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/27/manchester-united-open-bidding-for-leighton-baines-at-12m-3859606/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/27/manchester-united-open-bidding-for-leighton-baines-at-12m-3859606/)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 10:39:17 PM
If it's true (and I doubt it is) it shows a real lack of respect from Moyes towards us.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 10:40:49 PM
If it's true (and I doubt it is) it shows a real lack of respect from Moyes towards us.

Why? How is it different to Martinez and Kone?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on June 27, 2013, 10:41:52 PM
perhaps this sets up cash for the rumored kone and mcgeady transfers
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 10:42:05 PM
Haha.

Gash has properly jinxed this for us.
damn your eyes gash
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
If it's true (and I doubt it is) it shows a real lack of respect from Moyes towards us.
not sure i get why
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 10:43:31 PM
Why? How is it different to Martinez and Kone?

Because £5m for a striker from a championship side is about right.

£12m for the best left back in the league is derisory.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
For what RM would be given from £12m we'd barely have enough to buy a left back who is half as good, nevermind having any money left over to strengthen elsewhere.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 10:47:21 PM
perhaps this sets up cash for the rumored kone and mcgeady transfers

If we sell Baines to buy Kone and McGeady I think I'd have to cry.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 10:47:32 PM
Fer to norwich is on twitter. Rich askam is the source. Sorry i cant link will try in a bit

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Hear Norwich are closing in on #FCTwente (http://"https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FCTwente&src=hash") 's Leroy Fer who could sign as early as next week unless other clubs make a move #efc (http://"https://twitter.com/search?q=%23efc&src=hash") #ncfc (http://"https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ncfc&src=hash")

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
Because £5m for a striker from a championship side is about right.

£12m for the best left back in the league is derisory.

So it's just the reported money on offer that you have an issue with? If they came back with 18 mil would you be ok with it?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 27, 2013, 10:49:12 PM
So it's just the reported money on offer that you have an issue with? If they came back with 18 mil would you be ok with it?

the issue is more than Moyes is still under contract with Everton, in my eyes at least
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 27, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
If it's true (and I doubt it is) it shows a real lack of respect from Moyes towards us.

why should he not give his new team the best possible chance this season? because of some confused idea of loyalty to his former employer? Thinking this way is immature.

edit: just seen your post about the money. I guess i understand, although i feel it's just standard bargaining.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
So it's just the reported money on offer that you have an issue with? If they came back with 18 mil would you be ok with it?

I'd still be dissapointed but £18m is at least closer to what we should be looking at.

That said, still don't see him moving.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 27, 2013, 10:50:11 PM
spoke to soon?

Haha. Nah, he's still wrong even if it was true, according to him they were hoping to conclude the deal at the end of the week, weeks ago. Lets be honest, it's been the same rumour for about three years now, Moyes going to Utd only fuels that.

To be fair, he did say Adebayor and Bendtner definately weren't coming. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 10:51:06 PM
why should he not give his new team the best possible chance this season? because of some confused idea of loyalty to his former employer? Thinking this way is immature.

They're being linked to £50m+ moves for some huge players, if they want Baines they can at least give us a good deal for him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on June 27, 2013, 10:54:41 PM
Because £5m for a striker from a championship side is about right.

£12m for the best left back in the league is derisory.
This.
And he knows about our finances...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on June 27, 2013, 10:55:48 PM
most papers reporting it now although mirror also says it likely to be rejected
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
Sky Sources reporting it now.

Fuck
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 11:02:23 PM
We have said he is not for sale......
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
Sky also saying we've rejected it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 27, 2013, 11:02:59 PM
They're being linked to £50m+ moves for some huge players, if they want Baines they can at least give us a good deal for him.

i guess, how much do you pay for a LB?

Jordi Alba moved for 14 million euros, he's 24.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
If he has opened the bidding at 12 million that would likely mean we would be able to get at least 15 million.

If we end up with 15-18 million for a soon to be 29 year old left-back (albeit a very good one) that would be decent business.

This is probably our last chance to sell him and get a big return, we held on to Cahill and people complained we should have tried to flog him around his peak. If we want to run the business model of buying young players and selling them at their peak after getting quite a few good years out of them, then we should be looking to sell Baines if the price is right.

Fellaini's value will hold for the next 4 years, Baines' value will only drop from here on in.

That being said, I love him and don't want him to go.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 11:05:35 PM
15 tops.... I think we will get 14 tho
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:05:52 PM
i guess, how much do you pay for a LB?

Jordi Alba moved for 14 million euros, he's 24.

English players go for a premium though to other English clubs.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:07:43 PM
If he has opened the bidding at 12 million that would likely mean we would be able to get at least 15 million.

If we end up with 15-18 million for a soon to be 29 year old left-back (albeit a very good one) that would be decent business.

This is probably our last chance to sell him and get a big return, we held on to Cahill and people complained we should have tried to flog him around his peak. If we want to run the business model of buying young players and selling them at their peak after getting quite a few good years out of them, then we should be looking to sell Baines if the price is right.

Fellaini's value will hold for the next 4 years, Baines' value will only drop from here on in.

That being said, I love him and don't want him to go.

I understand what you're saying but why do we need to cash in on him at all?

Who cares if his value drops, he's our best player and he'd be impossible to replace.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
Just saw someone make a good point about how critical Moyes was towards Mark Hughes over the Lescott 'saga'

Let's see how this goes...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I understand what you're saying but why do we need to cash in on him at all?

Who cares if his value drops, he's our best player and he'd be impossible to replace.

Because if we don't cash in on him we won't be able to replace him, let alone improve other areas of the squad.

If we sell him for 15 million or so, and can re-invest another 6-8 in a new leftback that leaves between 5-8 million (after extra fees and whatnot) in addition to whatever transfer money we have now. That could bring us a new top level striker or central midfielder that we desperately need.

It might weaken us at left-back, but having a strong striker or CM, positions that are both seen as more important, could improve the squad overall.

Im not saying that will happen, or should happen, but that would be the thinking and I would understand it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 27, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
Just saw someone make a good point about how critical Moyes was towards Mark Hughes over the Lescott 'saga'

Let's see how this goes...

Well if Moyes starts trying to undermine or belittle Martinez then that would be a good point.  Merely trying to sign a player isn't grounds for comparison though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 27, 2013, 11:15:15 PM
Well if Moyes starts trying to undermine or belittle Martinez then that would be a good point.  Merely trying to sign a player isn't grounds for comparison though.
exactly people saying that cos we said he is not for sale if moyes comes back shows no respect is madness. He will be back with 14m and bill will more than likely accept
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:15:27 PM
Well if Moyes starts trying to undermine or belittle Martinez then that would be a good point.  Merely trying to sign a player isn't grounds for comparison though.

Going in with an unrealistically low offer is though....
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on June 27, 2013, 11:17:40 PM
If we sell Baines, I'm sure Oviedo will get the chance of replacing him. DOn't think we should use 6-8 mill. on an other left back. I think we have bigger problems elsewhere. Don't know what to think. The accountant want to cash in as Cantoffee say. the evertonian in me say NO
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 27, 2013, 11:18:44 PM
Going in with an unrealistically low offer is though....

It really isn't.  In any case £12m is hardly a ridiculously low starting offer either if it's true.  People have a very unrealistic idea of our players values sometimes, ironically enough at least in part as a result of the sum we managed to get for Lescott.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 27, 2013, 11:19:46 PM
people saying he's nearly 29 so we should only get 15 mill

van persie was 30 and they paid 24mill because he was the best in his position and baines is in his, make them pay full wack

fuck off moyes.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2013, 11:21:23 PM
It really isn't.  In any case £12m is hardly a ridiculously low starting offer either if it's true.  People have a very unrealistic idea of our players values sometimes, ironically enough at least in part as a result of the sum we managed to get for Lescott.

We should expect to receive around 15 million, meaning that 12m is a reasonable place to start.

He is a left-back who is almost 29, that is great business! When has a fullback his age ever gone for a price as high as 15 million?

I don't see a reason to be mad at Moyes. I would like Baines to stay but I understand if we decide it is time for him to move on and us to get as much as we can for him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
If he has opened the bidding at 12 million that would likely mean we would be able to get at least 15 million.

If we end up with 15-18 million for a soon to be 29 year old left-back (albeit a very good one) that would be decent business.

This is probably our last chance to sell him and get a big return, we held on to Cahill and people complained we should have tried to flog him around his peak. If we want to run the business model of buying young players and selling them at their peak after getting quite a few good years out of them, then we should be looking to sell Baines if the price is right.

Fellaini's value will hold for the next 4 years, Baines' value will only drop from here on in.

That being said, I love him and don't want him to go.

Unfortunately this. If we are run as a selling club and we have to know when to sell, however unpleasant that might be. We'd need the price to be at least 18 mil in order for us to progress in other areas of the pitch as to compensate. With an opening bid of 12 I'd imagine 15 is where they want to land, it's for us to hold out but clearly Moyes knows what we'd probably sell for so we're not in the best bargaining position from the outset.

If Baines and Fellaini go this summer...boy I hope Martinez knows how to spend the money the right way as that is pretty much the heart of our team right there.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:22:12 PM
It really isn't.  In any case £12m is hardly a ridiculously low starting offer either if it's true.  People have a very unrealistic idea of our players values sometimes, ironically enough at least in part as a result of the sum we managed to get for Lescott.

It's about their value to us though, not other clubs.

The Andy Carroll to Liverpool and Lescott to City are decent examples, if we have no need to sell (which we don't) and the player is important to us (which he is) then we shouldn't be looking to sell for anything below an unrealistic figure.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on June 27, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
people saying he's nearly 29 so we should only get 15 mill

van persie was 30 and they paid 24mill because he was the best in his position and baines is in his, make them pay full wack

fuck off moyes.
I think you forget strikers are priced higher than defenders
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 27, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
It's about their value to us though, not other clubs.

The Andy Carroll to Liverpool and Lescott to City are decent examples, if we have no need to sell (which we don't) and the player is important to us (which he is) then we shouldn't be looking to sell for anything below an unrealistic figure.

In which case we won't sell him if our value isn't met, we don't need to sell, and he doesn't want to go.  It doesn't mean that any club buying a player has to start off with a high bid just to account for the fact that the player is comparatively more important to the selling club than if that same player was at another club.  It might well mean that they end up having to bid higher, and that's up to them if they want the player that much.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
In which case we won't sell him if our value isn't met, we don't need to sell, and he doesn't want to go.  It doesn't mean that any club buying a player has to start off with a high bid just to account for the fact that the player is comparatively more important to the selling club than if that same player was at another club.  It might well mean that they end up having to bid higher, and that's up to them if they want the player that much.



These are all things Moyes knows, so he'd knowj that £12m (if true) isn't going to be nearly enough to get him and would only serve to unsettle the player or put pressure on us.

Which is exactly what City did...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on June 27, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
These are all things Moyes knows, so he'd knowj that £12m (if true) isn't going to be nearly enough to get him and would only serve to unsettle the player or put pressure on us.

Which is exactly what City did...

Moyes won't have anything to do with the prices I imagine, it'll literally be a case of "Get me Baines".
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 27, 2013, 11:32:46 PM
These are all things Moyes knows, so he'd knowj that £12m (if true) isn't going to be nearly enough to get him and would only serve to unsettle the player or put pressure on us.

Which is exactly what City did...

honestly verm, i think you need to grow up a little bit. it's business!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: di_guyo on June 27, 2013, 11:33:49 PM
14.5 and the shit da silva (who's not actually that shit) and I'd be uncomfortably game.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on June 27, 2013, 11:37:50 PM
These are all things Moyes knows, so he'd knowj that £12m (if true) isn't going to be nearly enough to get him and would only serve to unsettle the player or put pressure on us.

Which is exactly what City did...

Well it's nice to think that he'd feel a sense of loyalty and make sure he paid more of his new clubs money than he needs to, but realistically that's not going to happen.

And of course, perhaps Moyes knows that £12m could get him - we just don't know.  It seems that a lot of assumptions are being made to fit a particular version of what's happening but the reality is that we have no fucking idea what's going on, and for me personally that means I won't be getting wound up about it at this stage.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Craig_1878 on June 27, 2013, 11:47:27 PM
Completely agree with cantoffee on this one.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 11:54:27 PM
The club don't want to accept it they can say no, I don't think there has been a bid anyway more United making an enquiry and so far Everton knocking them back. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on June 27, 2013, 11:56:25 PM
Sorry but Fuck Moyes nothing personal but he's man u now were Everton and the balls in our court as far as Baines is concerned...Unless he asks for a transfer of course. Saying that I cant see him doing that, especially after his latest interview in the Echo.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 28, 2013, 12:08:34 AM
I am with Cantoffee. Would much rather sell Baines than Felli. Gravity coming through and we have Oviedo. Means we could get a decent Attacking midfielder or better striker with the money.

Baines value only starts dropping from now.

Also, people are saying Kone has no sell on value and 5M is too much but expect 20M for Baines who is a year younger!! The mind boggles
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 28, 2013, 12:12:18 AM
I am with Cantoffee. Would much rather sell Baines than Felli. Gravity coming through and we have Oviedo. Means we could get a decent Attacking midfielder or better striker with the money.

Baines value only starts dropping from now.

Also, people are saying Kone has no sell on value and 5M is too much but expect 20M for Baines who is a year younger!! The mind boggles

the best bit is people getting upset that david moyes would dare try to buy one of our players.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 12:14:39 AM
I am with Cantoffee. Would much rather sell Baines than Felli. Gravity coming through and we have Oviedo. Means we could get a decent Attacking midfielder or better striker with the money.

Baines value only starts dropping from now.

Also, people are saying Kone has no sell on value and 5M is too much but expect 20M for Baines who is a year younger!! The mind boggles

2 entirely different situations.

One is a squad player we're signing the other is our best player who we're selling
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 28, 2013, 12:18:06 AM
I am with Cantoffee. Would much rather sell Baines than Felli. Gravity coming through and we have Oviedo. Means we could get a decent Attacking midfielder or better striker with the money.

Baines value only starts dropping from now.

Also, people are saying Kone has no sell on value and 5M is too much but expect 20M for Baines who is a year younger!! The mind boggles

He's not worth £20m, but it's still a poor comparison. One is one of the best players in the world in his position, the other isn't even the best in his position in the North West of England.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Azz on June 28, 2013, 12:18:27 AM
lol at people refusing to believe that a bid has been made.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2013, 12:20:19 AM
15-20m is fair for Baines I think. Still I think I would rather just keep him
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 28, 2013, 12:22:47 AM
He is worth more playing for us than we would want from selling him. Simple as that really, it is very much if we sell him we lose out now, if we don't we lose out in the long run.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 12:24:15 AM
15-20m is fair for Baines I think. Still I think I would rather just keep him

It's not about what's fair
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 12:24:53 AM
It's not about what's fair

What is it about then?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 12:30:05 AM
What is it about then?

What's best for us

If you don't think the (probable) £10m (we'd have to spend) could replace what Baines brings to the side then it isn't even worth considering.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 12:30:57 AM
We're fucked if he goes for anything like the figures being mentioned
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 12:31:22 AM
I would be on the blower to soton right now if I was bob
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thom on June 28, 2013, 12:31:30 AM
Can't see us selling for even £14m/£15m. £18m would definitely be the tipping point, and one that I assume Kenwright would have no option but to accept.

Less than that though and, despite him being at his peak, it's not worth doing for me.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 12:33:38 AM
What's best for us

If you don't think the (probable) £10m (we'd have to spend) could replace what Baines brings to the side then it isn't even worth considering.

He's not replaceable but I don't think it's as catastrophic as people make out.  If he goes we might actually have to get a midfielder who can create, arguably that would play to our strikers strengths better anyway (Baines is excellent but should we be so reliant on our left back).  We give Oviedo ago, spend 10 million on a decent playmaker and we move on. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 28, 2013, 12:35:10 AM
He's not replaceable but I don't think it's as catastrophic as people make out.  If he goes we might actually have to get a midfielder who can create, arguably that would play to our strikers strengths better anyway (Baines is excellent but should we be so reliant on our left back).  We give Oviedo ago, spend 10 million on a decent playmaker and we move on. 

This.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 12:38:53 AM
He's not replaceable but I don't think it's as catastrophic as people make out.  If he goes we might actually have to get a midfielder who can create, arguably that would play to our strikers strengths better anyway (Baines is excellent but should we be so reliant on our left back).  We give Oviedo ago, spend 10 million on a decent playmaker and we move on. 

One hell of a gamble though.

Could we attract anyone of a sufficient calibre for that amount of money to replace Baines' creativity?

We'd also need a new back-up LB
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 12:42:08 AM
One hell of a gamble though.

Could we attract anyone of a sufficient calibre for that amount of money to replace Baines' creativity?

We'd also need a new back-up LB

Of course it is, but that's the way the game works for 90% of clubs.  You pick up a free journeyman backup and promote Garbutt a bit.  Sorted.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2013, 12:44:14 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/28/eqa6uby3.jpg)

Self proclaimed itk John Merro seems to agree with our own Dejo85's view that a deal for Baines is as good as done. Were lucky that football clubs keep folks like Merro in touch with how the modern game works

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 28, 2013, 12:49:10 AM

One hell of a gamble though.

Could we attract anyone of a sufficient calibre for that amount of money to replace Baines' creativity?

We'd also need a new back-up LB

Honda?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: chang on June 28, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
Moyes should of sold the players he wants to United last January...

No Evertonian wants Baines to leave the club, but what if you were Leighton Baines? 29 this year so probably last big contract, Champions League football, more than an even chance of winning something.....you would at least consider moving I think.

I want the best players at Everton as much as the next fan, but if he or anyone does leave, then I just hope what ever money is generated is used well.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 01:01:23 AM
Genuinely puzzled by any sort of complaints regarding this story.

They bid x; we consider the bid and either say yes or no.

If we say yes, that's our problem on what the fee is.

If we say no, then it's up to them to either give it up or come back with a better offer. They'll have got an idea of how much they have to improve it by in light of how we'll have said no.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2013, 01:08:50 AM
Genuinely puzzled by any sort of complaints regarding this story.

They bid x; we consider the bid and either say yes or no.

If we say yes, that's our problem on what the fee is.

If we say no, then it's up to them to either give it up or come back with a better offer. They'll have got an idea of how much they have to improve it by in light of how we'll have said no.



Think everyone is just on the defensive as they loath the idea of losing our best player. We don't stand a chance of getting a replacement in as good as him. With the fee though age has to be a factor. This is his last big contract. If he does sign for someone else he will be 34/35 when that co tract runs out and worth 10 times less than what they are likely to pay out as he comes to the end of that deal

12m isnt as much as we want but its hardly the insult some are suggesting

Also Moyes probably doesn't do all the fee negotiating
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 01:10:14 AM
Think everyone is just on the defensive as they loath the idea of losing our best player. We don't stand a chance of getting a replacement in as good as him. With the fee though age has to be a factor. This is his last big contract. If he does sign for someone else he will be 34/35 when that co tract runs out and worth 10 times less than what they are likely to pay out as he comes to the end of that deal

12m isnt as much as we want but its hardly the insult some are suggesting

Also Moyes probably doesn't do all the fee negotiating

I doubt he does much in terms of fee, I doubt any Manager does, it's not them shelling it out after all. 

It reminds me a bit of the Arteta thing this, at least it's likely be done early enough for us to spend the money!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 28, 2013, 01:10:32 AM
Honda?

Will go to Milan
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 01:16:26 AM
Think everyone is just on the defensive as they loath the idea of losing our best player. We don't stand a chance of getting a replacement in as good as him. With the fee though age has to be a factor. This is his last big contract. If he does sign for someone else he will be 34/35 when that co tract runs out and worth 10 times less than what they are likely to pay out as he comes to the end of that deal

12m isnt as much as we want but its hardly the insult some are suggesting

Also Moyes probably doesn't do all the fee negotiating

Yeah I know it's not very palatable.

As you say, his age is a factor for us, any potential bidders and Baines himself.

I know Shoggers insists that Baines doesn't want to go - but it's different not wanting to go when there are no offers to not wanting to go when there's a genuine offer from a club that can offer him CL football (and probably a guaranteed place in the WC) and the chance to win things.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on June 28, 2013, 01:59:20 AM
Yeah I know it's not very palatable.

As you say, his age is a factor for us, any potential bidders and Baines himself.

I know Shoggers insists that Baines doesn't want to go - but it's different not wanting to go when there are no offers to not wanting to go when there's a genuine offer from a club that can offer him CL football (and probably a guaranteed place in the WC) and the chance to win things.

I don't think we have a single player who'd turn down a move to Man United.

I can only think of a few reasons any of our players would stay (this goes for most teams not just ours):
- They'd not play as much. A concern for up and coming players than Baines I'd imagine.
- We were playing CL football
- We had a rich owner to bribe them to stay a bit longer, and they could see progression in the team they were in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 02:31:02 AM
Honda?

Which would be great but the problem is, as with all players of that calibre is it only takes one big club to take an interest (AC Milan) to completely ruin our chances.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 28, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
I have a weird feeling that Baines wouldn't really be that arsed about man u. He's not really a football guy is he? Nor does he seem like he wants bags and bags of money from it. He does it cause he's class at it and he can support his family, plus he gets to hang out with miles kane or whatever and be a pretty cool guy around liverpool.

I honestly don't know why, but I feel like he'd rather say at the end of his career 'man united wanted me but it never really bothered me.'

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 02:39:00 AM
I have a weird feeling that Baines wouldn't really be that arsed about man u. He's not really a football guy is he? Nor does he seem like he wants bags and bags of money from it. He does it cause he's class at it and he can support his family, plus he gets to hang out with miles kane or whatever and be a pretty cool guy around liverpool.

I honestly don't know why, but I feel like he'd rather say at the end of his career 'man united wanted me but it never really bothered me.'



That's what I think, seems like someone who isn't about money and trophies and is more about just playing at a decent level.

Really can't imagine him forcing a move.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on June 28, 2013, 02:45:55 AM
I don't see the problem with the bid or selling him. The amount is too low granted. 15M would be decent enough.

Is this official tho?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 02:47:44 AM
If the club accept a bid do people think baines will stay? I don't. 15m i reckon and bill says ok
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 02:49:00 AM
If the club accept a bid do people think baines will stay? I don't. 15m i reckon and bill says ok

I don't think he'll stay if we accept a bid, I don't think he'd ask for a move if we didn't accept a bid though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 02:55:34 AM
Sky Sports are saying the bid is 'Around £10m'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 02:56:54 AM
I have a weird feeling that Baines wouldn't really be that arsed about man u. He's not really a football guy is he? Nor does he seem like he wants bags and bags of money from it. He does it cause he's class at it and he can support his family, plus he gets to hang out with miles kane or whatever and be a pretty cool guy around liverpool.

I honestly don't know why, but I feel like he'd rather say at the end of his career 'man united wanted me but it never really bothered me.'



I don't think that the amount of effort that Baines puts in week in, week out and playing with his various injuries suggests that he's not really a football guy.

He could still be mates with Miles Kane if he was at Utd!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 28, 2013, 02:58:22 AM
I don't think that the amount of effort that Baines puts in week in, week out and playing with his various injuries suggests that he's not really a football guy.

He could still be mates with Miles Kane if he was at Utd!

That could just say more about the kind of person he is more than anything else though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 28, 2013, 03:18:47 AM
I can bet Bainesy will be at the club come the first week of September!. He's a top lad and if United want him but we don't want to sell, they they can bid as much as they like cos im certain Baines isn't the type to make a fuss and demand a move, he'll accept what the club wants and get on with it like a proper human being!.

The lad is class, the likes of him and Jags is what makes this club so great, they appreciate everything they've got and know there lucky to even be where they are!.

It's just another summer of bollocks regarding Baines again and these so called "ITK's" know about as much as my pet bird does, jack shit!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 28, 2013, 03:21:31 AM
Another thing aswell, Bainesy wouldn't of done an interview on Evertontv the other day and talk so positively about the new season coming up and looking forward to working with Martinez and his new ideas and then set himself up for shit IF he did end up leaving?!.

He's not a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 28, 2013, 03:28:18 AM
Another thing aswell, Bainesy wouldn't of done an interview on Evertontv the other day and talk so positively about the new season coming up and looking forward to working with Martinez and his new ideas and then set himself up for shit IF he did end up leaving?!.

He's not a fucking idiot.

OR he wants to make sure he gets his loyalty bonus IF he goes?

"I didn't want to leave but the club got an offer they couldn't refuse"

or none of us really know how he thinks?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on June 28, 2013, 03:29:03 AM
Another thing aswell, Bainesy wouldn't of done an interview on Evertontv the other day and talk so positively about the new season coming up and looking forward to working with Martinez and his new ideas and then set himself up for shit IF he did end up leaving?!.

He's not a fucking idiot.

What, you mean like when Moyes kept saying he was planning for next season, right up until a few days before the "surprise" approach from Man Utd?

I'm not doubting Baines would be very loyal to us, but lets not get too niave about things. He might not push the move through, but he would be mad not to be considering it and so would anyone to think he won't.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 03:32:40 AM


"I didn't want to leave but the club got an offer they couldn't refuse"


that's the standard footballer response
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on June 28, 2013, 03:33:24 AM
that's the standard footballer response

I was going to counter that with "it wasn't Luis Suarez's response" but then I realised who I was talking about
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 03:36:21 AM
I was going to counter that with "it wasn't Luis Suarez's response" but then I realised who I was talking about
yeah he actually doesn't give a Fuck
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on June 28, 2013, 03:37:22 AM
I mean yeah, anything could happen. To be honest I'm not the type to get upset if one of our players does leave. I very rarely get all upset and call them cunts or whatever, people change clubs, they don't owe us anything. If he goes, he goes. Should left back be your strongest position?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on June 28, 2013, 03:55:18 AM
I mean yeah, anything could happen. To be honest I'm not the type to get upset if one of our players does leave. I very rarely get all upset and call them cunts or whatever, people change clubs, they don't owe us anything. If he goes, he goes. Should left back be your strongest position?

you used to be able to stick any idiot at full back, it's become a far more important position in the modern game, I don;t see the problem with our best player being an lb,would be nice if we had that calibre of player up front though!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 28, 2013, 04:00:57 AM
In response to a question about Baines asking to leave THT posted this.

THT ‏@THT1878  5m 
@sopheverton @soccer_sauce ... More utter rubbish Sophie ! His family have said he wants to stay !!! Pathetic
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cassius on June 28, 2013, 04:21:53 AM
In response to a question about Baines asking to leave THT posted this.

THT ‏@THT1878  5m 
@sopheverton @soccer_sauce ... More utter rubbish Sophie ! His family have said he wants to stay !!! Pathetic


That'll do for me! Moving on...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 04:24:05 AM
His family have also said it could be out of his hands
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on June 28, 2013, 05:01:45 AM
TheRam is the only Baines family correspondent that I trust.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 05:07:16 AM
TheRam is the only Baines family correspondent that I trust.
ok...... Apologies
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 28, 2013, 05:25:57 AM
I'm a bit surprised by how fickle and cynical people are on here, when Bainesy has never given any reason to feel that way about him.

Yes, he's our best player. Should a LB be our best player? Why the fuck not? Crucial position in the modern game, and he's a superb exponent. Is he leaving? Fuck no. It's quite obvious that he's not wanting to leave, Martinez would not want him to leave. All the supposed ITKs who spouting drivel can fuck right off.

There aren't many sound lads still in football, who actually appear to enjoy playing at a good level, and value what's important...and Bainesy's one of them, so let's appreciate what we've got and stop preparing for his exit. He can still be a top class left back for the next 5 years, if he looks after himself, so the argument that we should take the money cos he's 29 is nonsense.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on June 28, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
I'm a bit surprised by how fickle and cynical people are on here, when Bainesy has never given any reason to feel that way about him.

Yes, he's our best player. Should a LB be our best player? Why the fuck not? Crucial position in the modern game, and he's a superb exponent. Is he leaving? Fuck no. It's quite obvious that he's not wanting to leave, Martinez would not want him to leave. All the supposed ITKs who spouting drivel can fuck right off.

There aren't many sound lads still in football, who actually appear to enjoy playing at a good level, and value what's important...and Bainesy's one of them, so let's appreciate what we've got and stop preparing for his exit. He can still be a top class left back for the next 5 years, if he looks after himself, so the argument that we should take the money cos he's 29 is nonsense.

If you think baines would rather stay here challanging for the the 7th place trophy over going to utd and challanging for a title and CL winners medal at this stage of his career you are crazy mate.

IF Everton had promised him some big signings to really try and challange CL then being the lad he is, then maybe, just maybe he could be persuaded.

Personally think both him and Fellaini were asked to do one more year last summer by moyes. The fact baines hasn't renewed his contract in the last 18months speaks volumes.

He's off mate, accept it and save yourself the dissapointment waiting around the corner!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on June 28, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
so then everyone what time is alcaraz and kone signing
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
so then everyone what time is alcaraz and kone signing
Monday. Bobs giving em a lift to finch farm
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 28, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
richard askam ‏@richaskam  36m 
Everton appear to be very much in pole position to land Nathan Redmond from Birmingham City. Hear deal is progressing #efc #bcfc

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
richard askam ‏@richaskam  36m 
Everton appear to be very much in pole position to land Nathan Redmond from Birmingham City. Hear deal is progressing #efc #bcfc



This guy is a BBC reporter, fwiw.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 28, 2013, 06:43:27 PM
Everton Alliance @EvertonAlliance
Just been told Utd have made another bid of 16m. It's been rejected!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cassius on June 28, 2013, 06:43:34 PM
This guy is a BBC reporter, fwiw.

He goes on to say that the "Kone link is strong but don't have anything specific (https://twitter.com/richaskam)"

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 06:46:17 PM
Everton Alliance @EvertonAlliance
Just been told Utd have made another bid of 16m. It's been rejected!

If true, I'd expect a follow up bid to be the end of it.

We'll either accept their next bid or they'll look elsewhere.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Aren't everton alliance them chancers asking for 5k off fans to buy the club?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on June 28, 2013, 08:17:47 PM
Aren't everton alliance them chancers asking for 5k off fans to buy the club?

I'd forgotten about that little gem!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 08:45:30 PM
Everton Alliance cunts masquerading as twats.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cassius on June 29, 2013, 04:48:05 AM
Everton Alliance cunts masquerading as twats.

The new NSNO motto right there.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Juanito on June 29, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
I have a weird feeling that Baines wouldn't really be that arsed about man u. He's not really a football guy is he? Nor does he seem like he wants bags and bags of money from it. He does it cause he's class at it and he can support his family, plus he gets to hang out with miles kane or whatever and be a pretty cool guy around liverpool.

I honestly don't know why, but I feel like he'd rather say at the end of his career 'man united wanted me but it never really bothered me.'

Thats a very nice thought but I think its just want you want him to wish, because the thought of him leaving is very difficult, because we love him so much. The reality is, for Leighton Baines to get to the level he has, takes amazing drive and determination...that same drive and determination will I think, what him to be lining up in big Champions league games, hearing the Champions league theme tune, at the Nou Camp and Bernabau...

Leighton Baines has been with us for some of his best years, he deserves his big chance. If we were to get say, 18 million and bring in Shaw for 10million, It would at least soften the blow.


Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on June 30, 2013, 01:52:31 AM
LCAB suggesting a deal for Redmond is in the works.

David The Toffee ‏@lcabbabeh  42m 
@StDomingos1878 @THT1878 Redmond not done yet but he wants it . Kone near done

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Macca77 on June 30, 2013, 02:09:52 AM
I suspect its going to a busy week come Monday
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blob on June 30, 2013, 02:51:27 AM
bigger guns are rumoured to be interested, but i'd like to see a benteke link :)

(let's hope fellaini is a good friend of his. more glue please)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on June 30, 2013, 04:17:01 AM
He also suggested McGeady is likely:

Quote
David The Toffee @lcabbabeh
@Litho_EFC7 @DomW1878 Theyre very likely . McGeady MIGHT have Russian Burocracy issues but that aside should appn . Enough with the qs now
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 30, 2013, 05:11:41 AM
Really want Honda, but I hold little hope. :(
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on June 30, 2013, 04:03:24 PM
Yes to Honda. No to McGeady.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dejo85 on June 30, 2013, 08:56:38 PM
baines deal will be done, and i've heard the first option is moses. Also that there still will be a bid for coleman, but almost definately not moving.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 30, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
baines deal will be done, and i've heard the first option is moses. Also that there still will be a bid for coleman, but almost definately not moving.

Did you read any paper over the past two months too?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 30, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
baines deal will be done, and i've heard the first option is moses. Also that there still will be a bid for coleman, but almost definately not moving.

Give it a rest pal.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 30, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Give it a rest pal.

He's so desperate to get on to the original post you can smell it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on June 30, 2013, 09:38:51 PM
Rodger Armstrong ‏@rodgerarmstrong 1m

Sounds like our first signing of the Summer will be Nathan Redmond. Medical in the morning. A good start in my view #coyb

EDIT: Disregard this, just seen his 'source' (one of those bullshit accounts with about 7 followers)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 01, 2013, 12:22:54 AM
baines deal will be done, and i've heard the first option is moses. Also that there still will be a bid for coleman, but almost definately not moving.

Yawn.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 01, 2013, 04:50:23 AM
baines deal will be done, and i've heard the first option is moses. Also that there still will be a bid for coleman, but almost definately not moving.

<Sound of static>

November Sierra November Oscar  (mods), this is mike bravo mike can I have an air strike on my coordinates. Napalm, I need napalm now. Over.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 01, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Everton Alliance @EvertonAlliance
Just been told Utd have made another bid of 16m. It's been rejected!

I hope we hire Mutumbo to do this to the United offers all transfer window...REJECTED!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0fyUYB3cA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0fyUYB3cA)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 01, 2013, 07:59:02 PM
Rodger Armstrong ‏@rodgerarmstrong 1m

Sounds like our first signing of the Summer will be Nathan Redmond. Medical in the morning. A good start in my view #coyb

EDIT: Disregard this, just seen his 'source' (one of those bullshit accounts with about 7 followers)

Saw something interested about him and Fer yesterday. Reportedly Norwich is going in for both of them as well and Fer fancies a move to Norwich while Redmond fancies a move to us. IMO it is bollocks solely on the Fer wants to go to Norwich, but I guess we will see soon enough.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: jongre123 on July 01, 2013, 09:05:24 PM
Redmond has decided to join Norwich. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-winger-nathan-redmond-4800673 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-winger-nathan-redmond-4800673)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 01, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
Doing some good business them lar.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 01, 2013, 09:12:08 PM
It's nice to see how we can't compete with the mighty Norwich...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 01, 2013, 09:15:45 PM
It's nice to see how we can't compete with the mighty Norwich...

How's that then?


Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 01, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
Dodged a bullet.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 01, 2013, 09:19:19 PM
How's that then?
There was an awful lot of talk about Redmond to Everton if it was completely unfounded. My guess is we were interested, but any transfers require selling someone first. And since this hasn't yet happened, Norwich flexed it's massive financial muscles (compared to ours, anyways) and signed Redmond.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 01, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
It's nice to see how we can't compete with the mighty Norwich...

Why? Just because they've signed some players.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 01, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
How's that then?



think he means Norwich are spending and strengthening where as we are going around without a pot to piss in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 01, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
think he means Norwich are spending and strengthening where as we are going around without a pot to loss in

Are we? We're in the process of signing someone for 5mil, if reports are to be believed. But as we know, you only believe anything thats negative.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2013, 09:24:32 PM
If Redmond has gone to Norwich then good luck to him, not arsed, its not like we have missed out.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 01, 2013, 09:25:09 PM
There was an awful lot of talk about Redmond to Everton if it was completely unfounded. My guess is we were interested, but any transfers require selling someone first. And since this hasn't yet happened, Norwich flexed it's massive financial muscles (compared to ours, anyways) and signed Redmond.

So basically you're guessing?

There was no bid by us, and contrary to what people may like to think, even we could raise a couple of million to buy him had we wanted to.

People read what's in the paper, then see the player go to another club and immediately assume that we've been out bid for a player, when clearly that's not the case.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 01, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
think he means Norwich are spending and strengthening where as we are going around without a pot to piss in

No, he thinks that Norwich have beaten us to a player because the papers said we were interested in him but we didn't have the money to buy him and Norwich did, which is clearly bollocks.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 01, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Even if we did put a bid in, it doesn't mean that we've been outmuscled financially.

Did we outmuscle Arsenal over the Mirallas transfer? of course not.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 01, 2013, 09:35:17 PM
Understandable considering he's worked with Hughton before.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: david smallman on July 01, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
He wanted to come to us but Birmingham wanted it sorting quickly and norwich are paying more than we offered
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 01, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
Looks like our "ITK's" aren't as ITK as they think they are or we'd like them to be. It's all a bit fruitless at the mo.

No major panic yet though, given the fact that it's only 1st July like!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 01, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
He wanted to come to us but Birmingham wanted it sorting quickly and norwich are paying more than we offered

Is that a fact, as in it really happened, or a fact as in the Mirror said so?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 01, 2013, 11:35:37 PM
I just really hope we don't purchase Kone.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 01, 2013, 11:35:40 PM
It's nice to see how we can't compete with the mighty Norwich...

Get a grip. Maybe he wanted to play regular first XI football, maybe we made an enquiry but didn't follow it up, or maybe we weren't interested in the first place.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 01, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
I'm always confused as to how it seems most windows we do get outspent by clubs like S'land, Norwich, etc. I think we spend our money more wisely but still seems a bit surprising to me.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 02, 2013, 12:16:22 AM
I'm always confused as to how it seems most windows we do get outspent by clubs like S'land, Norwich, etc. I think we spend our money more wisely but still seems a bit surprising to me.

Low wage budgets.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2013, 12:18:03 AM
I'm always confused as to how it seems most windows we do get outspent by clubs like S'land, Norwich, etc. I think we spend our money more wisely but still seems a bit surprising to me.

Let them spend, most of the time it only makes them shitter
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 02, 2013, 12:56:03 AM
Let them spend, most of the time it only makes them shitter

Very true. They don't have a lot of quality but they have depth for shitty players with shittier (is that a word) ones
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 02, 2013, 02:01:53 AM
Fuck all going on fuck all news
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: sam of the south on July 02, 2013, 02:18:18 AM
Fuck all going on fuck all news

Who's in the avatar, Jimmy?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 02, 2013, 02:19:30 AM
Who's in the avatar, Jimmy?
chloe Saxon :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on July 02, 2013, 02:33:56 AM
Fuck all going on fuck all news
.........there's nothing on the tv ,nothing on the radio that means that much to me . :bonk:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: sam of the south on July 02, 2013, 02:42:40 AM
chloe Saxon :)

Ruddy hell  :blush:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2013, 02:49:20 AM
Didnt LCAB say Redmoned was coming?

If so update the OP Verm
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 02, 2013, 02:55:30 AM
Didnt LCAB say Redmoned was coming?

If so update the OP Verm

I don't think so. He said Alcaraz, McGeady and Kone are all signing, or very likely to. He said something along the lines of Redmond being further down our list of targets I think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 02, 2013, 02:58:05 AM
Didnt LCAB say Redmoned was coming?

If so update the OP Verm

LCAB said it was in the pipeline, and Kone was as good as done. He also said McGeady could be at a stumbling block due to "beaurocracy issues"

Rodger Armstrong said it was going to be completed this morning.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 02, 2013, 03:47:56 AM
LCAB said "Redmond not done yet but he wants it.", so technically he didn't call him joining us...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on July 02, 2013, 12:27:45 PM
Fer wants to go to the PL, maybe he's not a Martinez type player and given we don't appear to be moving for him, he's now more than likely looking at other clubs....

Or trying to force our hand!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: christiffa25 on July 02, 2013, 12:32:19 PM
LCAB said "Redmond not done yet but he wants it.", so technically he didn't call him joining us...

Which "technically" he does on every transfer link. Always leaves himself with a easy get out clause or get in clause....ha...

Pretty sure through common sense and carefull wording alot on here could become ITK.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: david smallman on July 02, 2013, 02:15:23 PM
Is that a fact, as in it really happened, or a fact as in the Mirror said so?
Don't read the mirror just passing on what i am been told.
We are still trying for him but it might be too late.
Our problem is we need to generate some money first.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 02, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Quote
Kristof Terreur @HLNinEngeland
Junior #Malanda, on the list of #FFC and #EFC, skipped his first training session at Z. Waregem.A problem between him and the board.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 02, 2013, 02:40:31 PM


Would be great to see some young players come in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Macca77 on July 02, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
Fee agreed for Kone according to todays echo, 6.5 million. Owen Coyle has also said theres a few clubs interested but "hes off to Everton".

Apologies didnt see the other thead.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 02:54:18 PM
Fee agreed for Kone according to todays echo, 6.5 million. Owen Coyle has also said theres a few clubs interested but "hes off to Everton".

Six fucking point fucking five fucking million fucking pounds for Kone.

Kill me now.

In another paper it says were paying 5 million but cant agree a payment sructure with Whelan who wants it all up front.

5m is about 3m too much IMO.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 02, 2013, 03:02:06 PM
I suppose Martinez knows him and must believe in his ability. He did score more last season than any of our players did individually. Goals please Arouna, and lots of them!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 03:06:28 PM
Kristof Terreur @HLNinEngeland
Junior #Malanda, on the list of #FFC and #EFC, skipped his first training session at Z. Waregem.A problem between him and the board.

Junior Malanda is touted as the next fellaini.

Hes a young DM
He plays for Belgium
His dad is his agent (an interfereing twerp)

Its on!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 02, 2013, 03:08:53 PM
Fee agreed for Kone according to todays echo, 6.5 million. Owen Coyle has also said theres a few clubs interested but "hes off to Everton".

Apologies didnt see the other thead.

6.5 fucking hell
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on July 02, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
6.5 fucking hell

This.  I quite like Kone, but fuck me, there must be better available at that money?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 02, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
As I've said before, if he turns out to be a squad filler then fine, but if this is our big summer signing then it's going to be disappointing.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
As I've said before, if he turns out to be a squad filler then fine, but if this is our big summer signing then it's going to be disappointing.

Well, if the fee is to be believed, unless we sell Felli and or Baines then Kone will be our marquee signing <sad face>
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2013, 03:44:17 PM
wouldn't take any figures as gospel just yet.

whatever, it's happening. i predict 18 goals in all competitions.

KONE2013
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: mooler on July 02, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
there is no way we have paid 6.5m. Expect him to be pictured on the website after signing for 'undisclosed fee' , the shitbag option a lot of clubs use. To be fair, I watched Kone closely at Goodison and the fella is powerful. His thighs make Segundo Castillo's look like paula Radcliffe's  :batty:.  I personally feel money could maybe have been better spent but it seems Martinez will have a specific system which he knows Kone is equipped for.  His hold up play in the cup final was quality which is something we dearly lack at times and the hope is that his strength will bring our midfielders into the game more. However, we need pace badly. We are so slow on the counter attack sometimes simply down to lack of pace, The difference made by Donovan when on loan was clear to see. If mirallas gets injured, we could suffer as we lack pace in the squad. Anyway before Kone signs, I just hope ossie or hibbo text him and pre warn him that his barnet is fooking shocking and bleached bonces are just not acceptable at this club!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: april on July 02, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Junior Malanda is touted as the next fellaini.

Hes a young DM
He plays for Belgium
His dad is his agent (antwerp)

Sorry for interfering, but I couldn't resist.

Its on!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Sorry for interfering, but I couldn't resist.

How dare you! :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on July 02, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
I'm not worried. If we have no money, no way they'll spend 6.5million on a 30 yr old. The board is not that stupid.

 Kone wants to move to Everton, so offer 3million plus add ons. If they reject, they'll have an unhappy player.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 02, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
I'm not worried. If we have no money, no way they'll spend 6.5million on a 30 yr old. The board is not that stupid.



There is this.

They must be aware of the need to keep value in the playing squad as it underpins their whole financial strategy.

The safest way of doing that is to have younger players (or at least a reasonable balance).

The issue following on from that is that we know we're not rolling in money so should we assume that we're fairly certain that someone is leaving that will allow us to buy younger players who fit into our financial planning.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
Bit heavy that 6.5 like. I like him and he will get 12-15 goals here no problem, still for a club in our position 6.5 on a 29 year old is a lot of money, having said that I was ready to throttle Moyes when he spent 5mil on Distin.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 02, 2013, 06:58:15 PM
Bit heavy that 6.5 like. I like him and he will get 12-15 goals here no problem, still for a club in our position 6.5 on a 29 year old is a lot of money, having said that I was ready to throttle Moyes when he spent 5mil on Distin.

5m for Distin is decent business. Great defender and top gooser.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
5m for Distin is decent business. Great defender and top gooser.

He's nearly as good as Pip at pointing (see gash's sig.....)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 02, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
5m for Distin is decent business. Great defender and top gooser.
could purchase a lot of milk for 5m
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
5m for Distin is decent business. Great defender and top gooser.

Yeah, which is why we shouldent be writing Kone off. We've gone and bought someone who's proved he can cut it in the prem. All Ive heard on here is "We should go and buy someone like Benteke", thats a massive risk, we need someone who can come in a score goals straight away.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2013, 07:10:10 PM
Yeah, which is why we shouldent be writing Kone off. We've gone and bought someone who's proved he can cut it in the prem. All Ive heard on here is "We should go and buy someone like Benteke", thats a massive risk, we need someone who can come in a score goals straight away.

haha yeah that benteke shout. why can't we just go and find a one in a million freakshow deal for a massive, young striker poised to tear the world cup apart with his clinical finishing for less than 6m? lazy, everton. lazy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 02, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
I'm not worried. If we have no money, no way they'll spend 6.5million on a 30 yr old. The board is not that stupid.

 Kone wants to move to Everton, so offer 3million plus add ons. If they reject, they'll have an unhappy player.

I'd agree with this - but there is zero chance that the board would have attracted Martinez on a proviso that they get to say who we sign.
Martinez would have been told he has X amount to spend this summer and the board would not stop him.

I reckon potential targets and values were almost certainly part of the interview process
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Vespa on July 02, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Is this site just a piss take?

http://goodisongossip.com/ (http://goodisongossip.com/)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 02, 2013, 07:27:56 PM
Theres some horrific stories there
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: april on July 02, 2013, 07:35:43 PM
Is this site just a piss take?

http://goodisongossip.com/ (http://goodisongossip.com/)

Hot Christ, what a waste of zeros and ones.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 02, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
I'd agree with this - but there is zero chance that the board would have attracted Martinez on a proviso that they get to say who we sign.
Martinez would have been told he has X amount to spend this summer and the board would not stop him.

I reckon potential targets and values were almost certainly part of the interview process

They wouldn't say on specifics, no.

However I don't think that it's beyond their remit to say we need to lower the age of the squad/keep the value high.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueski on July 02, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Bit heavy that 6.5 like. I like him and he will get 12-15 goals here no problem, still for a club in our position 6.5 on a 29 year old is a lot of money, having said that I was ready to throttle Moyes when he spent 5mil on Distin.
Is  £6.5 million really that out of line for a reasonably competent premiership striker? I just don't think its an enormous risk, plus its probably on the drip as well. Look around the league and find me a striker who started the lion's share of his club's previous season's games and had 10-15 goals, probably cant find many if any that sold for less. The issue probably is more the upside potential - there's probably no chance of him being a  £20 million + player  in a year or two, which is always an enticing (and unlikely) possibility with a lesser known player

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 02, 2013, 09:08:45 PM
Is  £6.5 million really that out of line for a reasonably competent premiership striker? I just don't think its an enormous risk, plus its probably on the drip as well. Look around the league and find me a striker who started the lion's share of his club's previous season's games and had 10-15 goals, probably cant find many if any that sold for less. The issue probably is more the upside potential - there's probably no chance of him being a  £20 million + player  in a year or two, which is always an enticing (and unlikely) possibility with a lesser known player

This
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on July 02, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
Some reports that Villa are now targeting Nacer Chadli, which will be depressing if true. The reports suggest that it's partly to help keep Benteke happy, but obviously a really talented player in his own right.

Only a year left on his contract, so surely worth investigating for us??
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 02, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
Probably bullshit then because teams don't buy players to keep other players happy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2013, 09:18:12 PM
Some reports that Villa are now targeting Nacer Chadli, which will be depressing if true. The reports suggest that it's partly to help keep Benteke happy, but obviously a really talented player in his own right.

Only a year left on his contract, so surely worth investigating for us??

More important positions to worry about
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on July 02, 2013, 09:20:27 PM
Probably bullshit then because teams don't buy players to keep other players happy.

I don't think teams buy people JUST to keep someone happy, but it can be a contributing factor to keeping someone happy if you have some of their countrymen at the club, who are talented in their own right.

Loads of examples of clubs where there's a group of internationals from the same country.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 02, 2013, 09:31:28 PM
I don't think teams buy people JUST to keep someone happy, but it can be a contributing factor to keeping someone happy if you have some of their countrymen at the club, who are talented in their own right.

Loads of examples of clubs where there's a group of internationals from the same country.

didn't work for Newcastle last season.........
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on July 02, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
didn't work for Newcastle last season.........

Agreed. It can definitely create factions in a dressing room. I'm not saying I want us to do it, I'm just saying it happens. There are examples where it has worked though. The mostly French players in Arsenal's Invincibles, even the Shite's Spanish lot were successful.

I'd love us to sign a couple more Belgians personally.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2013, 09:53:27 PM
didn't work for Newcastle last season.........

Yeah, but they went French.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 02, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
Probably bullshit then because teams don't buy players to keep other players happy.
This. Seem to remember that Newcastle bought Cisse to keep Ba happy..... he was so happy that he said yes to being transferred to Chelsea  ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 02, 2013, 10:49:36 PM
Just don't see this being a great transfer. We need a 15-20 goals a year striker not a 8-12.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 02, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
How complete of player is Kone? I don't know a ton about him. Is he creative? Can he hold the ball up?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 02, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
How complete of player is Kone? I don't know a ton about him. Is he creative? Can he hold the ball up?
he is quick ish and strong ish. I have heard many wigan fans say his hold up play is very good
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 02, 2013, 10:56:26 PM
I think he is a good striker, good hold up play, very strong, decent pace.

Seems like at least a decent finisher, but I can't seem him scoring more than 15 a season. Although 15 would be a good return for a couple a seasons.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: SpankRock on July 03, 2013, 12:38:21 AM
Some reports that Villa are now targeting Nacer Chadli, which will be depressing if true. The reports suggest that it's partly to help keep Benteke happy, but obviously a really talented player in his own right.

Only a year left on his contract, so surely worth investigating for us??

I've seen quite a bit of Chadli, good player on his day and would definitely bring something to the squad/team. Seems a fair VFM option and might help keep Fellaini happy. Him and a fit Mirallas could really stretch teams.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 03, 2013, 01:27:11 AM
I think he is a good striker, good hold up play, very strong, decent pace.

Seems like at least a decent finisher, but I can't seem him scoring more than 15 a season. Although 15 would be a good return for a couple a seasons.

15 a season would be unbelievable. Not had a striker who can do that for years.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 03, 2013, 01:39:35 AM
15 a season would be unbelievable. Not had a striker who can do that for years.

We have had 15 in one season, but I don't think we've had a striker score 15 goals, two seasons in a row since... I honestly don't know when, but since well before Moyes.

If we at least knew (or had a decent idea) what we would get from our strikers for the season that would be helpful.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 03, 2013, 01:58:56 AM
get 20 out of him then flog him to anzhi for 20 million. easy!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 03, 2013, 02:12:25 AM
We have had 15 in one season, but I don't think we've had a striker score 15 goals, two seasons in a row since... I honestly don't know when, but since well before Moyes.

If we at least knew (or had a decent idea) what we would get from our strikers for the season that would be helpful.

I'd probably say the last striker we had who scored more than 15 two seasons in a row would be Sharpy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 03, 2013, 02:21:08 AM
Cottee did it 3 years on a bounce from 88/89, 89/90 & 90/91.
Think he got 10 the year after than 15+ again the year after that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 03, 2013, 02:26:10 AM
I'd probably say the last striker we had who scored more than 15 two seasons in a row would be Sharpy.

Tony Cottee - actually did 3 seasons in a row... 18 in 1988-89, 15 in 89-90, and 24 in 90-91

Sharp was last before him though, in 81-82 (15) and 82-82 (17)

Latchford was top scorer 5 seasons in a row during the 70's, but in the 75-76 season he only scored 13 (having scored 19 the season before, 25 the season after, then 32, and then 20)

before that it was Joe Royle....four seasons in a row.... 20 in 67-68, 29 in 68-69, and 23 in each season 69-70 and 70-71

Dixie will always be best though - EIGHT seasons in a row he scored more than 15 goals in a season, six of those seasons in a row he scored more than 25 goals a season
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 02:27:34 AM
Linekar would have pissed it had he not fucked off to Barca.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 03, 2013, 02:37:49 AM
Tony Cottee - actually did 3 seasons in a row... 18 in 1988-89, 15 in 89-90, and 24 in 90-91

Sharp was last before him though, in 81-82 (15) and 82-82 (17)

Latchford was top scorer 5 seasons in a row during the 70's, but in the 75-76 season he only scored 13 (having scored 19 the season before, 25 the season after, then 32, and then 20)

before that it was Joe Royle....four seasons in a row.... 20 in 67-68, 29 in 68-69, and 23 in each season 69-70 and 70-71

Dixie will always be best though - EIGHT seasons in a row he scored more than 15 goals in a season, six of those seasons in a row he scored more than 25 goals a season

Are these just league goals or all comps?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 03, 2013, 02:39:26 AM
Are these just league goals or all comps?

all comps
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 03, 2013, 02:50:33 AM
We haven't had a player hit more than 15 leagues goals since Cottee in 93/94.

That is almost unbelievably pathetic.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 02:52:59 AM
We haven't had a player hit more than 15 leagues goals since Cottee in 93/94.

That is almost unbelievably pathetic.
how many did yakubu get first season?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 03, 2013, 02:56:54 AM
how many did yakubu get first season?

13 I think, with 6 coming in the cups and Europe.

I would most definitely take that return from Kone though!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
how many did yakubu get first season?

15

21 in all.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 03, 2013, 03:03:40 AM
Yeah I thought 15. He definitely got 21 in total as he was on 19 going into the last game against Newcastle, he scored 2 to get to 21 and first player to get 20 for us since Beardsley and lescott got one so he got 10 goals in the season as well.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 03:06:05 AM
I was thinking it was 22, only to realise that was his shirt number. FFS.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on July 03, 2013, 03:12:42 AM
Yeah it was 21, 15 in the league.

He was absolutely outstanding that season.

Still have absolutely no fucking clue why we sold him for 1.5M when he had 3 years to run on his contract, having signed him for 11.25M

Anyone else wanna tell me why we just rolled over and accepted that? I know he had fell out with moyes but 1.5M was just a fucking joke considering I think he was still only 27 or 28 at the time.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 03, 2013, 03:20:57 AM
Yeah it was 21, 15 in the league.

He was absolutely outstanding that season.

Still have absolutely no fucking clue why we sold him for 1.5M when he had 3 years to run on his contract, having signed him for 11.25M

Anyone else wanna tell me why we just rolled over and accepted that? I know he had fell out with moyes but 1.5M was just a fucking joke considering I think he was still only 27 or 28 at the time.

Was surprised we got so little for him as thought plenty of clubs aside from Blackburn would have wanted him but got to the point where happy to sell him. The problem was he was demanding massive wage increase and came back one day saying avram grant was offering him 80k a week to go to Chelsea so wanted that from us. Moyes said take it if he is offering it, the offer never materialised and think that among other things left him in a bad position. Along with he was never quite the same after his Achilles injury. He has always been an Adebayor as well, first season outstanding after that never nearly hit those levels again.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 03, 2013, 03:21:19 AM
Yeah it was 21, 15 in the league.

He was absolutely outstanding that season.

Still have absolutely no fucking clue why we sold him for 1.5M when he had 3 years to run on his contract, having signed him for 11.25M

Anyone else wanna tell me why we just rolled over and accepted that? I know he had fell out with moyes but 1.5M was just a fucking joke considering I think he was still only 27 or 28 at the time.

If we signed Yak now and he started all 38 league games he would score 15-20

All this at the ripe age of about 47 too!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on July 03, 2013, 03:45:31 AM
If we signed Yak now and he started all 38 league games he would score 15-20

All this at the ripe age of about 47 too!

Haha, indeed, he was after all "allegedly" 27/28

Was it Kanu who they done a bone marrow test on when he was 35 and it turned out he was actually 41? It was when he was at portsmouth I think, might have been another player though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 03, 2013, 03:52:17 AM
Yeah it was 21, 15 in the league.

He was absolutely outstanding that season.

Still have absolutely no fucking clue why we sold him for 1.5M when he had 3 years to run on his contract, having signed him for 11.25M

Anyone else wanna tell me why we just rolled over and accepted that? I know he had fell out with moyes but 1.5M was just a fucking joke considering I think he was still only 27 or 28 at the time.
After his injury he was completely useless and I guess you can only sell for whatever someone is willing to pay. He was still getting something like 2-3 million per on wages, which is a lot to waste.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on July 03, 2013, 03:58:10 AM
After his injury he was completely useless and I guess you can only sell for whatever someone is willing to pay. He was still getting something like 2-3 million per on wages, which is a lot to waste.

I understand that, but exactly how "useless" was he?

He went to Blackburn and scored 17 times for them in the league that season. Like Rhys touched on, it was probably more a case of he had totally fallen out of love and out of everything with Moyes. Along with the fact that he is known for being a bit of a one season wonder, I think moyes simply just wanted to get shut.

I still believe we could have gotten better money for him though. If he was being that much of a cunt we should have just launched him in the reserves and told him to fuck off and get on with it, and get a better offer for him.

Guess the wages we saved on though was a plus point in itself like you said, still just very dissapointed that we sold a very capable striker for fuck all, its like we didn't even try to negotiate.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 03, 2013, 04:02:03 AM
He was useless at Everton. He did have a pattern at the clubs he played at: great at first and then useless. Happened in several clubs so can't be a coincidence.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 04:06:17 AM
He was useless at Everton.

No he wasn't at all
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 03, 2013, 04:08:36 AM
He was useless at Everton. He did have a pattern at the clubs he played at: great at first and then useless. Happened in several clubs so can't be a coincidence.

He did usually score the lions share of his goals near the start of the season at most of his clubs.

Useless though?21 goals in a season?his use was scoring goals that season!

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 03, 2013, 04:51:39 AM
He was useless at Everton. He did have a pattern at the clubs he played at: great at first and then useless. Happened in several clubs so can't be a coincidence.

No, he scored goals after his first seasons at clubs too. Check the stats.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 03, 2013, 06:43:15 AM
Fucking hell, we don't half deserve a good striker don't we? We've had some terrible luck. Flops, injuries, transfers. You can just tell a striker would be embraced by the fans like like a champion if he were to get 15 plus in the league. That feeling of 'i just know he's nailed on to score.' Is something we have been missing so badly. Ita actually a bit of a damning black spot on moyes reign.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 07:13:33 AM
Swerve the Yak arguments off.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on July 03, 2013, 09:07:45 AM
Fucking hell, we don't half deserve a good striker don't we? We've had some terrible luck. Flops, injuries, transfers. You can just tell a striker would be embraced by the fans like like a champion if he were to get 15 plus in the league. That feeling of 'i just know he's nailed on to score.' Is something we have been missing so badly. Ita actually a bit of a damning black spot on moyes reign.

Jelavic first 6 months.
It was a beautiful feeling
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 03, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
all comps

Yeah just checked re League goals.

The last time 1 player did it was Sharp in 81/82 and 82/83.

The last time we as a team (with different individuals) did it was Sharp 84/85 and Lineker 85/86.

Pretty poor really; especially from a team point of view!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 03, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
Quote
Kristof Terreur @HLNinEngeland
Junior #Malanda, target of #EFC & #FFC, has terminated his contract at Z. Waregem, using the (Belgian) act of 78. He s a free agent now.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 03, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Jelavic first 6 months.
It was a beautiful feeling

It felt like he would score in every game.

It didn't feel like he'd score ever again last season :(
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 04, 2013, 01:47:21 AM
I would say anything less than 6 points would be a disappointment. I expect to get 7 or 8 and I would be very happy with 9 or more.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 04, 2013, 01:50:35 AM
I would say anything less than 6 points would be a disappointment. I expect to get 7 or 8 and I would be very happy with 9 or more.
drunk ?   or just posting in the wrong thread
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Toddacelli on July 04, 2013, 02:47:42 AM
Last time I was in this thread it was page 38.
Now it's page 51.

What did I miss?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 04, 2013, 02:53:08 AM
Last time I was in this thread it was page 38.
Now it's page 51.

What did I miss?

Ram met Leighton Baines at a family do. He told him he had a massive cock.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 04, 2013, 02:53:57 AM
I may have missed some bits of Rams post out there actually. I'll go back and check....
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 03:33:30 AM
Ram met Leighton Baines at a family do. He told him he had a massive cock.

Haha, bet Tod wasn't expecting that response.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 04, 2013, 09:04:49 PM
Haha, bet Tod wasn't expecting that response.

And now we've gotten him all excited about your massive cock. He sure is going to be disappointed...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 04, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
And now we've gotten him all excited about your massive cock. He sure is going to be disappointed...

Maybe hes not refering to the cock in his pants...........
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 04, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
Maybe hes not refering to the cock in his pants...........
Mind. Blown.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 06, 2013, 04:49:35 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_ 4m
Reports coming out of Spain that Everton are close to signing Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu on a season long loan
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 06, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_ 4m
Reports coming out of Spain that Everton are close to signing Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu on a season long loan
interesting
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 06, 2013, 05:39:06 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_ 4m
Reports coming out of Spain that Everton are close to signing Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu on a season long loan

I'd be really surprised.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on July 06, 2013, 06:08:45 AM
I'd be really surprised.

pleasantly
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 06, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
Gerard Deulofeu ● The Future ● 2012-2013 ||HD|| (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85g-GLdFkN4#ws)

obligatory youtube vid!

looks boss!imagine him and mirallas either flank!

cue The Ram 'we dont need him' ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 06, 2013, 06:12:40 AM
He has a look of Torres in that still!

As for being surprised, I'd probably dance the fuckin' jig, a la Bruce Willis in Last Boy Scout.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 06, 2013, 06:12:53 AM
Gerard Deulofeu ● The Future ● 2012-2013 ||HD|| (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85g-GLdFkN4#ws)

obligatory youtube vid!

looks boss!imagine him and mirallas either flank!

cue The Ram 'we dont need him' ;)

Not when we have Ossie....
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on July 06, 2013, 06:14:03 AM
with balls in like the one just after 1 min even Jela should get on the score sheet!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 06, 2013, 06:15:17 AM
I'd just be surprised because I'm still in David Moyes mode who wouldn't dream of getting a player like that in (on loan or to buy).
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 06, 2013, 06:16:14 AM
Pretty fuckin' nippy innee!?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on July 06, 2013, 08:29:36 AM
Sorry fellas, but for the last 3 pages this is the worst ITK thread I've ever read. Probably cos nothing is much is going on (apart from Kone) but still pretty shit.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 06, 2013, 08:39:13 AM
Deulofeu's been really impressive at the U20 World Cup. Always seems to find himself in a useful position, can certainly dribble past a man (or two or even three). The main complaint against him is that he tries to dribble too much/be too fancy, when he should just lay it off. But you have to love his mindset. Some pretty cheeky things there, including the lob free kick and goal directly from the corner.

What strikes me the most from the Youtube video are that a lot of his goals are from narrow angles. That just seems really rare.
Title: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cods on July 06, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
He won't have that much time in the ball in England nor such poor defenses/defensive mistakes to exploit.  He seems tricky and skillful but teamwork may be an issue.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 06, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
Gerard Deulofeu ● The Future ● 2012-2013 ||HD|| (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85g-GLdFkN4#ws)

obligatory youtube vid!

looks boss!imagine him and mirallas either flank!

cue The Ram 'we dont need him' ;)

I am american and watched the US vs Spain u-20 world cup game; he bossed the entire game and scored a terrific curling goal.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 06, 2013, 02:06:17 PM
I'd just be surprised because I'm still in David Moyes mode who wouldn't dream of getting a player like that in (on loan or to buy).
Dear me.... did Roberto sign Kevin M.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 06, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Dear me.... did Roberto sign Kevin M.

Or sign Drenthe on loan..........
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 06, 2013, 04:44:07 PM
Gerard Deulofeu ● The Future ● 2012-2013 ||HD|| (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85g-GLdFkN4#ws)

obligatory youtube vid!

looks boss!imagine him and mirallas either flank!

cue The Ram 'we dont need him' ;)

Fucking foreigners.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 06, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
Wigan striker Arouna Kone has undergone a medical at Everton today with the Toffees set to beat Newcastle to the £5million striker.

New Everton boss Roberto Martinez looks to have sealed a reunion with the 29-year-old, who he managed when he was in charge at the DW Stadium.

The Ivorian scored 11 Premier League goals in his first season in England and helped Wigan lift the FA Cup, but he has made no secret of his desire to leave after the club were relegated in May.
Everton bound: Arouna Kone is closing in a move to Goodison Park

Everton bound: Arouna Kone is closing in a move to Goodison Park

Kone turned down a £6million move to Tyneside earlier in the week.

Both clubs have been given permission to talk to Kone after meeting the release clause in the three-year contract he signed at Wigan last summer.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2357159/Arouna-Kone-medical-Everton-ahead-5million-move.html#ixzz2YG4MIges (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2357159/Arouna-Kone-medical-Everton-ahead-5million-move.html#ixzz2YG4MIges)
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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 06, 2013, 06:06:57 PM
Wigan striker Arouna Kone has undergone a medical at Everton today with the Toffees set to beat Newcastle to the £5million striker.

New Everton boss Roberto Martinez looks to have sealed a reunion with the 29-year-old, who he managed when he was in charge at the DW Stadium.

The Ivorian scored 11 Premier League goals in his first season in England and helped Wigan lift the FA Cup, but he has made no secret of his desire to leave after the club were relegated in May.
Everton bound: Arouna Kone is closing in a move to Goodison Park

Everton bound: Arouna Kone is closing in a move to Goodison Park

Kone turned down a £6million move to Tyneside earlier in the week.

Both clubs have been given permission to talk to Kone after meeting the release clause in the three-year contract he signed at Wigan last summer.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2357159/Arouna-Kone-medical-Everton-ahead-5million-move.html#ixzz2YG4MIges (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2357159/Arouna-Kone-medical-Everton-ahead-5million-move.html#ixzz2YG4MIges)
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Think he'll be a good signing in the end!. So what if he's 29, he's a fit, athletic lad and will get us goals definitely. Adds much needed pace to the side aswell so that we can start to stretch teams on the break as IMO, were one of the worst counter attacking teams in the league and Martinez will change that for us!.

I wonder if those who are saying Kone isn't good enough, he's an underwhelming signing are the ones that championed Rodellega's signing last summer?!. Just saying like!. 29 or not, at £5m Kone is a good signing and will prove a shrewd move by Martinez.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: pastiebap on July 06, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
Anytime I seen him play for Wigan he looked very good. It also gives a good front man if we want to play Vic, Mirallas and Kone up front. Plus Martinez knows him so will get the best out of him. Kone, Alcaraz and a midfielder would be a great summer if we can keep hold of Baines.

Really looking forward to next season.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 06, 2013, 08:54:57 PM
Dear me.... did Roberto sign Kevin M.

It took David Moyes 10 years to finally buy a decent winger with pace, so he does have a point.

Excluding VDM like.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 07, 2013, 03:31:36 AM
Spain just went out of the U-20's to Uruguay. Looks like we may find out sooner rather than later if the Barcelona bloke will be joining us.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: billbones80 on July 07, 2013, 07:36:01 AM
TRANSFER UPDATE - barcastuff @barcastuff
Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu (19) is close to joining Everton on loan. His agent met Everton coach Roberto Martinez this week.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 07, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
TRANSFER UPDATE - barcastuff @barcastuff
Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu (19) is close to joining Everton on loan. His agent met Everton coach Roberto Martinez this week.

That same person said earlier this week that his destination will get sorted once Spain is out of the U-20 tourney. Hopefully this means it will be resolved within the next week or two.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
Why loan someone who is only good enough for te reserves.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Toddacelli on July 07, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
ITK 100% Info:

I am no longer shocked by Ram and his massive cock.

Or by those two terms being used in the same sentence.

;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 07, 2013, 02:51:43 PM
ITK 100% Info:

I am no longer shocked by Ram and his massive cock.

Or by those two terms being used in the same sentence.

;)


You may not be,  Ram's boyfriend's fuckin' gobsmacked though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bigjmill on July 07, 2013, 03:58:06 PM
Safe to say this rumour is wrong ... Spot the mistake

http://miusoccer.com/arsenal-in-battle-with-everton-to-land-want-away-powerhouse/20190 (http://miusoccer.com/arsenal-in-battle-with-everton-to-land-want-away-powerhouse/20190)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 07, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 07, 2013, 04:07:25 PM
Wanayama is one big bastard
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 07, 2013, 04:09:42 PM
He would potentially be an excellent replacement for Fellaini.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on July 07, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Safe to say this rumour is wrong ... Spot the mistake

http://miusoccer.com/arsenal-in-battle-with-everton-to-land-want-away-powerhouse/20190 (http://miusoccer.com/arsenal-in-battle-with-everton-to-land-want-away-powerhouse/20190)

Could be a good hybrid, Moyes' defensive style with Robbie's attacking flair.....ahhh good old David Martinez
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 07, 2013, 05:24:46 PM
He would potentially be an excellent replacement for Fellaini.

Would we all have to black up then if the wig thing disappears from Goodison?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 07, 2013, 05:29:10 PM
Would we all have to black up then if the wig thing disappears from Goodison?
oh Wanayama you are the love of my life
Oh Wanayama id let you shag my wife
Oh Wanayama i wanna huge cock tooooooo

Needs some work
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 07, 2013, 06:16:06 PM
Why loan someone who is only good enough for the reserves.


There reserves are actually good enough to be in La Liga but cant compete in that league cos there Barca's second team, cant have 2 Barca teams in one league, same as you cant have two Real Madrid teams, 2 Valencia's etc, etc.

Just cos he plays for the B team doesn't mean he isn't good, they've got some great talent in that side.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2013, 07:27:27 PM
I mean he is only good enough for our reserves. Saw the u20 game against Uruguay and he was absolutely terrible. Selfish, lazy and not ready for 1st team football. So why loan him?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on July 07, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
I mean he is only good enough for our reserves. Saw the u20 game against Uruguay and he was absolutely terrible. Selfish, lazy and not ready for 1st team football. So why loan him?

I never watched it but I've read elsewhere that he was fast and was full of energy,  had a good eye for a pass and was a real danger throughout! The opinion was that he'd be a big asset for us.

Best leave it to Bobby to decided...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2013, 07:50:58 PM
I saw some one who never passes, tries to beat a man 3 times, can't shoot and looks arrogant.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 07, 2013, 07:57:51 PM

There reserves are actually good enough to be in La Liga but cant compete in that league cos there Barca's second team, cant have 2 Barca teams in one league, same as you cant have two Real Madrid teams, 2 Valencia's etc, etc.

Just cos he plays for the B team doesn't mean he isn't good, they've got some great talent in that side.

If they were good enough to be in La Liga then they'd have won the league instead of finishing 9th, Madrid Castilla finished 8th and Valencia's 2nd team aren't even in that league as far as I can see. To be honest aswell if Barca's B team are doign well in the 2nd division then thats more a statement of how shite their lower leagues are than how good Barca B are.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 07, 2013, 07:59:22 PM
I saw some one who never passes, tries to beat a man 3 times, can't shoot and looks arrogant.
And you watched him for 90 minutes.  Don't hope anyone saw Johnny play against Villa... We would be Lucky if we wasn't made to pay his wages to get rid
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
And you watched him for 90 minutes.  Don't hope anyone saw Johnny play against Villa... We would be Lucky if we wasn't made to pay his wages to get rid

Fair point but he really didn't do anything special all game to even hope he might make our first team. And if he isn't good enough for the 1st team then what is the point of the loan?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2013, 08:57:58 PM
Fair point but he really didn't do anything special all game to even hope he might make our first team. And if he isn't good enough for the 1st team then what is the point of the loan?

to make our small squad bigger.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 07, 2013, 10:01:44 PM
I mean he is only good enough for our reserves. Saw the u20 game against Uruguay and he was absolutely terrible. Selfish, lazy and not ready for 1st team football. So why loan him?

Saw that match too. Definitely not his best, but I was (un)fortunate enough to watch him play the US U-20 side in the group stages and he ripped us apart. Someone this young is bound to have hit-or-miss matches but when this kid is on, he is f'ing ON.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2013, 10:12:24 PM
to make our small squad bigger.

A loanee who won't play? Really?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2013, 10:19:47 PM
A loanee who won't play? Really?

He will play. It's a cheap loan, if he's shit so be it, no loss. If he's good then we have someone who offers the squad something different for a couple of grand a week.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Risky on July 07, 2013, 10:27:03 PM
A loanee who won't play? Really?

I think it's obvious that if we did get this lad it's because Martinez thinks that he can contribute to the first team, so it's a bit of a moot point really.  Personally I've not seen him play that I can recall, but it's clear that he's highly thought of and could be a worthwhile addition.  Certainly judging a player on one match is not sufficient to know whether he is not good enough to be around our first team.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2013, 12:02:53 AM
Don't know why con's so against it. Just being contrary perhaps? It probably benefits barca more than us,but we get a talented squad player with bags of pace, ability and potential. Can't see the downside really. He's not good enough for barcas first team no, but is he better than magaye gueye?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
Kone and Alcaraz will be announced very soon.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
He will play. It's a cheap loan, if he's shit so be it, no loss. If he's good then we have someone who offers the squad something different for a couple of grand a week.

The only downside to this deal is if Barça love him as much as they are rumored to then there may not be a possibility to make the deal permanent.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 12:38:28 AM
Kone and Alcaraz will be announced very soon.

Pics or it didn't happen...

In all reality I hope it does get announced soon. Will be a nice boost to supporters' morale leading up to the first couple friendlies. If we can get those two and Barça boy in the next two weeks I'll be pleasantly content for awhile.

Then all I will be hoping for is a 2nd keeper, an additional CM &/or winger, and the possible sale of Tinga.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 08, 2013, 01:00:50 AM
Quote
Fox Est11 @FoxLCFC
Asking price for Beckford was 800k, the amount Leicester still owe Everton as part of the deal, money goes straight to Everton #lcfc #efc

Kerching - that's some new lawnmowers for the new pitch :woohoo:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 01:14:18 AM
Kerching - that's some new lawnmowers for the new pitch :woohoo:

Just saw that. Not bad if true! That is assuming we have already payed off the £1m pitch. Regardless, Beckford is worth less than the price of our footy pitch.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: phillyt on July 08, 2013, 01:14:40 AM
Kerching - that's some new lawnmowers for the new pitch :woohoo:

That's rooneys wages for a month. Just the transfer fee to find and the 59 months wages.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 01:31:40 AM
If they were good enough to be in La Liga then they'd have won the league instead of finishing 9th, Madrid Castilla finished 8th and Valencia's 2nd team aren't even in that league as far as I can see. To be honest aswell if Barca's B team are doign well in the 2nd division then thats more a statement of how shite their lower leagues are than how good Barca B are.


It was just an example with the 2nd string Valencia's and Barca's etc. But IF Barca didn't take most of there youth to play in the 1st team or sell what ever players, then they'd be good enough to compete in La Liga as there second team as had some talent in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howlin wolf on July 08, 2013, 03:33:58 AM
Kone and Alcaraz will be announced very soon.

You may well be right, it just seems like this is the same thing we've been told every day for the last ten days.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 03:35:33 AM
You may well be right, it just seems like this is the same thing we've been told every day for the last ten days.

Tuesday at the very latest mate. Everything has been sorted so it should be announced tomorrow, but you never know with us.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 08, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
Kone and Alcaraz will be announced very soon.

Bold statement.

Source?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
Kone is getting announced today it isn't a secret work permits have dragged the deal out a little, Alcaraz is good as done as well  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
Fourth Official says were in advanced talks with joel Robles over a loan deal
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
Fourth Official says were in advanced talks with joel Robles over a loan deal

That's Howard fucked then!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 03:22:13 PM
That's Howard fucked then!

Well I suppose we've still got to make up for the Mucha departure.  Season long loan seems like a sensible deal
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 03:24:09 PM
Well I suppose we've still got to make up for the Mucha departure.  Season long loan seems like a sensible deal

True, can't imagine Robles settling for sitting on the bench though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 08, 2013, 03:41:14 PM


Everton will announce on Monday the signing of Ivorian striker Arouna Koné on a £5m three-year deal, as new manager Roberto Martinez steps up his attempts to build on foundations left behind by David Moyes.

With the club still determined that they will not allow Leighton Baines to depart for Manchester United, who may come in with a second £15m bid before leaving for their pre-season tour of Australia and the Far East, Martinez has seen off late competition from Newcastle United to secure the services of Koné, who was one of the bright lights of Wigan’s relegation season. Grant Holt appeared to be his replacement last night, with the Norwich striker en route to Wigan for a medical.

Martinez will reunite with the 29-year-old Koné, whom he signed for £2m from Levante in his native Spain, having been aware of his success with Sevilla before that. Koné scored 11 Premier League goals in his first season in England. The late intervention from Newcastle only briefly threatened the deal. Both clubs were given permission to talk to Koné after meeting the release clause in the three-year contract he signed at Wigan last summer.

 The likelihood of Marouane Fellaini leaving Goodison this summer may impact on the club’s response to a second United bid for Baines. The club’s position remains that the left-back is not for sale and even a bid closer to £20m would not need to be accepted if Fellaini leaves for closer to £23m. The Belgian, who was Everton’s leading scorer last season with 12 goals, has a clause which would allow him to speak with any club that bids £23.5m. Despite their initial informal inquiries, Arsenal are yet to trigger the clause at this stage.

Martinez does not want to lose Fellaini, though there is an acceptance at the club that he will want to leave. The release clause is understood to expire in mid-August, though Everton will want to avoid losing a key player so late in the window.

Baines may have to put in a transfer request if he is to secure a move to United. The left-back may not be the priority for the champions, whose manager Moyes said last week that he may do some of his business late on.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 08, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
Kone is getting announced today it isn't a secret work permits have dragged the deal out a little, Alcaraz is good as done as well  :whistle:

Thanks
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 04:51:52 PM
Fourth Official says were in advanced talks with joel Robles over a loan deal


Makes sense to take him on loan IMO. Only pay a small loan fee which wont bite too much into our already small budget. And would be a good move, he's still young and learning the game but looks a decent prospect, be a good years learning curve with him at us as understudy to Howard.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Bold statement.

Source?

No matter who I say you will think its bollocks.

You'll see today tho that Im right.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 08, 2013, 07:05:33 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer


Cheeky cunt. Score some fucking goals lad, them maybe we will discuss a contract.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 07:09:58 PM
Ha not convinced on that one even Everton would laugh in his face. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 07:11:14 PM
No matter who I say you will think its bollocks.

You'll see today tho that Im right.

you might as well say who it is then Ram!

Shorty says so anyway!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 07:16:48 PM
you might as well say who it is then Ram!

Shorty says so anyway!

My Baines source :)

I was in there before shorty, the fraud.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 07:17:59 PM
My Baines source :)

I was in there before shorty, the fraud.

Haha haven't you been putting Ram sauce all over the Baines source?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
Do I get a point?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: KingdingalingNL on July 08, 2013, 08:28:44 PM
Do I get a point?

You get a cool point for your karma  :thumbsup: -18 now!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
Do I get a point?

Officially you have called as many right as dejo85 now

He gave us Gervinho to arsenal. You gave us the right day on kone

Though didnt you say charlie loves the beak austin was signing for us?or did you just tell us that he loves the beak?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 08, 2013, 09:13:47 PM
If ram gets a point i want a point as i posted this yesterday in response to it all going quiet about kone

 
tomorrow mate.... Its the weekend and its sunny everyone's off
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 08, 2013, 09:44:20 PM
alcaraz should sign by end of today
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on July 08, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_  38m 
Alcaraz has arrived at Finch Farm to finalise a move to Everton #efc

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Glory on July 08, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_  38m 
Alcaraz has arrived at Finch Farm to finalise a move to Everton #efc
Its all happening today!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer



A better deal at the club after being here only just over a year and after having a shocking year to boot at that?!. Sounds like bullshit to me.

If the lad as any principles at all he'd know he's just had a shocking season and is in no position to start asking for better terms than he's on right now!.

But don't get me started with this Sheedy (shady) character!. Had some do's on other forums with folk about the bollocks he spouts. Wouldn't mind, the kid himself even admits that the stuff he gets told isn't always legit and shite!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Its all happening today!


Going to Austria tomorrow, will want him involved and amongst the lads, good time to bed in!.

Kone will be on an extended break though through playing internationals at the end of the season, so will be back in training when the lads are back.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 08, 2013, 10:30:04 PM

Going to Austria tomorrow, will want him involved and amongst the lads, good time to bed in!.

Kone will be on an extended break though through playing internationals at the end of the season, so will be back in training when the lads are back.

I would hope as new signing he's desperate to get going and is going to Austria? How many people start a new job and fuck off on holiday as soon as they sign? I'll be very surprised and disappointed if he's not on the plane tomorrow.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:34:58 PM

Makes sense to take him on loan IMO. Only pay a small loan fee which wont bite too much into our already small budget. And would be a good move, he's still young and learning the game but looks a decent prospect, be a good years learning curve with him at us as understudy to Howard.

Hopefully the loan will have an option to make permanent. Will need a back-up/replacement for Howard sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 08, 2013, 10:59:56 PM
I would hope as new signing he's desperate to get going and is going to Austria? How many people start a new job and fuck off on holiday as soon as they sign? I'll be very surprised and disappointed if he's not on the plane tomorrow.

Well it's in all the reports that he won't be joining up until later in the month.

I see where you're coming from (and tend to agree to a large extent!) but these breaks are designed o ensure that the players are in peak condition and are part if their fitness programme rather than him chilling for a week as he can't be arsed!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Vespa on July 08, 2013, 11:22:02 PM

Going to Austria tomorrow, will want him involved and amongst the lads, good time to bed in!.

Kone will be on an extended break though through playing internationals at the end of the season, so will be back in training when the lads are back.

I thought the international lads reported back today?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
I thought the international lads reported back today?


So did I mate, but according to the OS, he isn't going as he's on an extended break due to playing internationals at the end of last season.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 08, 2013, 11:53:05 PM
I would hope as new signing he's desperate to get going and is going to Austria? How many people start a new job and fuck off on holiday as soon as they sign? I'll be very surprised and disappointed if he's not on the plane tomorrow.
If they hadn't had any holiday I would ask them to take a break before getting started. Nothing worse than burned out employees
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: phillyt on July 09, 2013, 04:19:20 AM

So did I mate, but according to the OS, he isn't going as he's on an extended break due to playing internationals at the end of last season.

I suspect he isn't going cos having stumped up 5 million for him bill can't afford the extra  plane ticket and hotel room.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 04:21:34 AM
Any news on Alcatraz?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 04:22:15 AM
Any news on Alcatraz?
done deal awaiting work permit which is formality
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 04:31:54 AM
done deal awaiting work permit which is formality

Shouldn't take but a few days should it?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 04:32:26 AM
Shouldn't take but a few days should it?
no
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 09, 2013, 04:36:55 AM
Any news on Alcatraz?

No one ever escaped apparently?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 04:41:45 AM
Benteke requested transfer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 04:42:23 AM
No one ever escaped apparently?

Our new signings, Cone and Alcatraz :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 04:57:28 AM
Our new signings, Cone and Alcatraz :)

It's Alcaraz. You talking about the prison
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 05:03:01 AM
It's Alcaraz. You talking about the prison

I know it's Alcaraz.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 05:03:34 AM
Benteke requested transfer.

Spurs will go for him now they lost out on Villa.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 05:36:45 AM
I know it's Alcaraz.

No, the prison is Alcatraz. Jeez Blarg!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 06:12:06 AM
Bugger off :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 06:23:27 AM
Bugger off :)

 :snigger:

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 07:30:50 AM
No one ever escaped apparently?

I think they only two that did froze to death on the swim.

(So glad you made that joke. When I saw it I was thinking the same thing)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 07:34:40 AM
Spurs will go for him now they lost out on Villa.

Hope they make them pay out the nose for him. The fact they paid £17m for an unproven Brazilian makes me think Villa will want at least £27-30m for a proven goal scorer in the PL.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 09, 2013, 10:27:48 AM
Hope they make them pay out the nose for him. The fact they paid £17m for an unproven Brazilian makes me think Villa will want at least £27-30m for a proven goal scorer in the PL.

Unproven Brazilian who was the best player in a Cope Libertadores winning team and Club World Cup winning team.

He also has 17 caps and has scored 5 goals playing as a box-to-box midfielder.

I think he is a great buy, although they need a striker more than him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 09, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Hope they make them pay out the nose for him. The fact they paid £17m for an unproven Brazilian makes me think Villa will want at least £27-30m for a proven goal scorer in the PL.

If Spurs are after him I think I'd prefer it that Villa didn't have £30m to try and replace him.

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 09, 2013, 03:03:23 PM
Unproven Brazilian who was the best player in a Cope Libertadores winning team and Club World Cup winning team.

He also has 17 caps and has scored 5 goals playing as a box-to-box midfielder.

I think he is a great buy, although they need a striker more than him.

He isnt unproven as in whether he is a good player or not. It is unproven as in how will he be in the premier league? There havent been many Brazilians who have been outstanding in the premier league, most flatter to deceive and dont quite cut it. You look at people like Julio Baptista who in theory had the right attributes to make it over here but didnt realise how fit you have to be, how much energy you need to play with game in game out and ultimately couldnt cut it.

It will take Paulinho time to realise what it is like playing here. On paper he has the right attributes to make it but he probably isnt used to playing against really physical teams, physical midfielders who crowd him quicker and more physically than he has ever experienced before. He may get used to it and he is strong himself so he might be fine. But he ins unproven in that he may never get used to it and be someone that goes off to an Ateltico where he has the technical skills but is better being a physical box to box presence in a physically less demanding league.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 05:05:16 PM
If Spurs are after him I think I'd prefer it that Villa didn't have £30m to try and replace him.



That 30 million would go tto pay off Bent.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2013, 06:52:24 PM
If he hasnt played in the Prem then he's unproven.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 06:53:02 PM
He isnt unproven as in whether he is a good player or not. It is unproven as in how will he be in the premier league? There havent been many Brazilians who have been outstanding in the premier league, most flatter to deceive and dont quite cut it. You look at people like Julio Baptista who in theory had the right attributes to make it over here but didnt realise how fit you have to be, how much energy you need to play with game in game out and ultimately couldnt cut it.

It will take Paulinho time to realise what it is like playing here. On paper he has the right attributes to make it but he probably isnt used to playing against really physical teams, physical midfielders who crowd him quicker and more physically than he has ever experienced before. He may get used to it and he is strong himself so he might be fine. But he ins unproven in that he may never get used to it and be someone that goes off to an Ateltico where he has the technical skills but is better being a physical box to box presence in a physically less demanding league.

This. Cheers Rhys for writing thus up for me as you obviously understood what I was getting at.

We have all seen players who were great in other leagues or competitions and have it all on paper, yet flop in the PL.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2013, 07:04:27 PM
Plenty of Brazilians have been good in the prem.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
Joel and Alcaraz will be announced today according to Fourth official.

Keeper,CB and a striker for 5mil. Brilliant business.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: DannyR on July 09, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
Plenty of Brazilians have been good in the prem.
Jo says it all
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
Anderon da Silva...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2013, 07:31:48 PM
Gilberto Silva.
Edu
Juniniho
Sandro
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
Rodrigo
Robhino
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 07:33:16 PM
Plenty of Brazilians have been good in the prem.

Can't disagree with you there mate. My original point is just because you buy a Brazilian for £17m doesn't mean he will be worth that price tag. Villa should be asking for £27-30m for a striker who is a proven goal scorer in the PL.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: dekko on July 09, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
We, Everton, a club with almost no money at all, spent 15mil on a young unproven player, that played in a small league, and was not even a starter in their national squad. It ended up ok, now he's worth more than 20mil, but if u had asked me then, to choose between 15mil for Fellaini or 17mil for Paulinho, I would've said Paulinho any day of the week.
 

I'm Brazilian and I have watched Paulinho plenty of times to know that he'll do really well in England. The pressure to be succesfull by the fans in Brazil is more than in England, he'll know how to deal with the change of styles over here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 09, 2013, 07:46:27 PM
Joel and Alcaraz will be announced today according to Fourth official.

Keeper,CB and a striker for 5mil. Brilliant business.

Would be delighted with that, Neville, Mucha and Hitzelsberger gone and replaced by 3 players who are more likely to get game time and even though 2 of them aren't young the average age of the squad has still dropped.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 07:48:32 PM
Would be delighted with that, Neville, Mucha and Hitzelsberger gone and replaced by 3 players who are more likely to get game time and even though 2 of them aren't young the average age of the squad has still dropped.
looking at it like that its good business
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 09, 2013, 07:51:20 PM
Unproven in the prem is one thing, but Paulinho is such a good player. I think he will be fine in England and it is a good purchase.

I'll bet Huddlestone is available now though ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 07:59:02 PM
Unproven in the prem is one thing, but Paulinho is such a good player. I think he will be fine in England and it is a good purchase.

I'll bet Huddlestone is available now though ;)

I completely agree he is good and if I was betting I would err on the side of him being a great signing (esp since AVB has worked with players like him before). It is just tough to gauge what the PL will do to the player and how long it takes them to settle in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:13:28 AM
Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague 19m
Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!
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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:16:30 AM
Ramires and Luis have shown that Brazilians rcently do well here. By Rhys's post it would mean that Messi would struggle here
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: American Evertonian on July 10, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
Ramires and Luis have shown that Brazilians rcently do well here. By Rhys's post it would mean that Messi would struggle here

That would be something I would like to see. Messi is great but Barca seems to have been built exactly for him. Seeing how English teams do not play the "Barca" style I wonder how he would perform on an EPL team.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 10, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague 19m
Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!
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Sounds like the sort of signing that ILB will be wanking himself silly over.

Pienaar, Mirallas and Deulofeu as wingers is decent but we need another.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:35:55 AM
Sounds like the sort of signing that ILB will be wanking himself silly over.

Pienaar, Mirallas and Deulofeu as wingers is decent but we need another.

Don't be greedy now mate. I would prefer a better striker or another midfielder
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 10, 2013, 12:38:40 AM
Don't be greedy now mate. I would prefer a better striker or another midfielder

3 players to cover 2 positions just seems a little lightweight to me. Then again I guess Naismith and Anichebe can fill in if needed.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:41:12 AM
3 players to cover 2 positions just seems a little lightweight to me. Then again I guess Naismith and Anichebe can fill in if needed.

It depends on what style Martinez want's to play.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Eddie on July 10, 2013, 12:54:30 AM
It depends on what style Martinez want's to play.

Silas (the latest ITK), informed me he's planning on playing long ball to the channels as plan A...plan B is putting two fingers up to the street end when they start moaning.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 10, 2013, 12:55:33 AM
Lads. Lets hope he doesn't turn out like the hotshot loan signing from la liga who went to the shite last year.......
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
Silas (the latest ITK), informed me he's planning on playing long ball to the channels as plan A...plan B is putting two fingers up to the street end when they start moaning.

I didn't say that...I said one finger.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:58:23 AM
Silas (the latest ITK), informed me he's planning on playing long ball to the channels as plan A...plan B is putting two fingers up to the street end when they start moaning.

HAHA
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on July 10, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
I didn't say that...I said one finger.

That's the problem when you're an ITK, people take certain bits and add their own interpretation to it
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Grand Master C on July 10, 2013, 01:16:45 AM
Would be delighted with that, Neville, Mucha and Hitzelsberger gone and replaced by 3 players who are more likely to get game time and even though 2 of them aren't young the average age of the squad has still dropped.

You are so explaining to my misses where I have been next I turn up late from the pub !

Positivity at it's best mate :-)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on July 10, 2013, 01:44:39 AM
He isnt unproven as in whether he is a good player or not. It is unproven as in how will he be in the premier league? There havent been many Brazilians who have been outstanding in the premier league, most flatter to deceive and dont quite cut it. You look at people like Julio Baptista who in theory had the right attributes to make it over here but didnt realise how fit you have to be, how much energy you need to play with game in game out and ultimately couldnt cut it.

It will take Paulinho time to realise what it is like playing here. On paper he has the right attributes to make it but he probably isnt used to playing against really physical teams, physical midfielders who crowd him quicker and more physically than he has ever experienced before. He may get used to it and he is strong himself so he might be fine. But he ins unproven in that he may never get used to it and be someone that goes off to an Ateltico where he has the technical skills but is better being a physical box to box presence in a physically less demanding league.
Haven't you heard?
Copernicus was wrong  :wag: , everything evolves around PL according to astronomers nowadays.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 10, 2013, 02:06:29 AM
Sounds like the sort of signing that ILB will be wanking himself silly over.

Pienaar, Mirallas and Deulofeu as wingers is decent but we need another.

My mate from Barca thinks he is something special, they all seem to think he is ready for the first team next year but he would be competing with Pedro and Neymar for his position. So Deulofeu has asked to be sent on loan for a year rather than get a handful of games for the first team.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueski on July 10, 2013, 02:08:11 AM
3 players to cover 2 positions just seems a little lightweight to me. Then again I guess Naismith and Anichebe can fill in if needed.
I don't think its assured Kone will start over Victor
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Amata on July 10, 2013, 02:34:34 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_  1m 
Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu looks like he will be Everton's 4th signing of the summer #EFC #FCB

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 10, 2013, 02:44:19 AM
Jesus, slow down Roberto!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 10, 2013, 03:27:00 AM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_  1m 
Barcelona winger Gerard Deulofeu looks like he will be Everton's 4th signing of the summer #EFC #FCB




If Balague and Fourth Official reckon we could be getting this Deulofeu kid then great news, he's a great young talent and would be a good signing. I would imagine he'll be an impact sub at first and play cup games, but who knows, he may well break into the team?!.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 10, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
Ramires and Luis have shown that Brazilians rcently do well here. By Rhys's post it would mean that Messi would struggle here

Well he has looked dog against most British teams when he has played them especially when they come over here.....
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ally2 on July 10, 2013, 04:08:59 AM
Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague 19m
Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!
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YEEEEESS!  GET IN





(never heard of him)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 04:18:06 AM
Well he has looked dog against most British teams when he has played them especially when they come over here.....

Nice, I actually agree. Everytime I have seen him for Argentina he has been horrible.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: charlatan on July 10, 2013, 04:47:08 AM
Jesus, I am actually excited at the thought of watching an Everton side for the 1st time in years  :woohoo:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 10, 2013, 04:51:54 AM
Roberto is trying to turn us into some sort of crazy Barca/Wigan hybrid. I'm strangely excited by this
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueski on July 10, 2013, 04:54:38 AM
Roberto is trying to turn us into some sort of crazy Barca/Wigan hybrid. I'm strangely excited by this
imagine the furore if we finished higher than united LOL
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: bigmanbob on July 10, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
He's getting his signings in ASAP, something our ginger scotsman frustratingly failed to do
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 10, 2013, 05:14:15 AM
He's getting his signings in ASAP, something our ginger scotsman frustratingly failed to do

The ginger Scotsman has also had to wait until he sold players before he could spend anything since 2008.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: bluestevie on July 10, 2013, 05:41:10 AM
WTF is going on, potentially four signings in one week? Gotta be a good 6-7 years since we've seen this much early activity in the transfer market
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluebridge on July 10, 2013, 05:53:48 AM
WTF is going on, potentially four signings in one week? Gotta be a good 6-7 years since we've seen this much early activity in the transfer market
Hang on, we've signed 3 Wigan players!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 05:54:57 AM
WTF is going on, potentially four signings in one week? Gotta be a good 60-70 years since we've seen this much early activity in the transfer market

fixed
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on July 10, 2013, 06:08:18 AM
Hang on, we've signed 3 Wigan players!

Wrong

2 Wigan players.

Joel Robles was from Atletico Madrid
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluebridge on July 10, 2013, 06:14:18 AM
Wrong

2 Wigan players.

Joel Robles was from Atletico Madrid

OK 3 players who played and got relegated with Wigan last season. Time will tell!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 10, 2013, 06:17:37 AM
Wrong

2 Wigan players.

Joel Robles was from Atletico Madrid


Wrong

1 Wigan player

Alcaraz was a free agent :D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Cozzie on July 10, 2013, 06:18:24 AM
Wrong

1 Wigan player

Alcaraz was a free agent :D

I was gonna put that but thought I would be over doing it a bit :P
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 10, 2013, 07:31:05 AM
Don't be greedy now mate. I would prefer a better striker or another midfielder

We need a ACM/Second Striker/Tim Cahill esque/creative forward thinking person (whatever you want to call it) in the mold of Honda, Kagawa, or Van Der Vart much more than we need another striker or another midfielder (though arguably you may have been alluding to that with your post either way).
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 10, 2013, 08:22:54 AM
We need a ACM/Second Striker/Tim Cahill esque/creative forward thinking person (whatever you want to call it) in the mold of Honda, Kagawa, or Van Der Vart much more than we need another striker or another midfielder (though arguably you may have been alluding to that with your post either way).

The more I think about it, the more Keisuke Honda makes sense. In Fellaini, we have the combative box-to-box midfield presence. Gibson gives us a steadying influence when fit. Osman has shown that when played centrally, he can definitely influence games, though he's ideally not the main central creative spark. After that, though, we've got very little that we can absolutely count on. Barkley in an attacking role is great in theory, but he's still very young; to rely on him to perform, I think, would be foolhardy.

Honda would fill that attacking role quite nicely. He can certainly pull the strings, chips in with some goals, and can drift to either wing on occasion. That would give an advanced midfield trio of Pienaar/Honda/Mirallas, which would be very dangerous and fluid as they could all three occupy any of those positions. Late in games, if a more conservative midfielder is called for, one of them could be withdrawn in favor of Osman/Gibson, or Gibson/Osman could be withdrawn in favor of Barkley with Honda dropping back if a more attacking option is called for.

      Fellaini-Gibson
Mirallas-Honda-Pienaar
           striker

      Fellaini-Gibson
Pienaar-Osman-Honda
             striker

       Fellaini-Honda
Mirallas-Barkley-Pienaar
             striker

Pienaar-Fellaini-Osman-Honda
              two strikers

                  Fellaini
        Pienaar-----Honda
Anichebe----Kone----Mirallas

The formation options become myriad, and tasty. Also allows for much better squad rotation, as you wouldn't have to expect the same XI to need to start every match to be competitive.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on July 10, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
The more I think about it, the more Keisuke Honda makes sense. In Fellaini, we have the combative box-to-box midfield presence. Gibson gives us a steadying influence when fit. Osman has shown that when played centrally, he can definitely influence games, though he's ideally not the main central creative spark. After that, though, we've got very little that we can absolutely count on. Barkley in an attacking role is great in theory, but he's still very young; to rely on him to perform, I think, would be foolhardy.

Honda would fill that attacking role quite nicely. He can certainly pull the strings, chips in with some goals, and can drift to either wing on occasion. That would give an advanced midfield trio of Pienaar/Honda/Mirallas, which would be very dangerous and fluid as they could all three occupy any of those positions. Late in games, if a more conservative midfielder is called for, one of them could be withdrawn in favor of Osman/Gibson, or Gibson/Osman could be withdrawn in favor of Barkley with Honda dropping back if a more attacking option is called for.

      Fellaini-Gibson
Mirallas-Honda-Pienaar
           striker

      Fellaini-Gibson
Pienaar-Osman-Honda
             striker

       Fellaini-Honda
Mirallas-Barkley-Pienaar
             striker

Pienaar-Fellaini-Osman-Honda
              two strikers

                  Fellaini
        Pienaar-----Honda
Anichebe----Kone----Mirallas

The formation options become myriad, and tasty. Also allows for much better squad rotation, as you wouldn't have to expect the same XI to need to start every match to be competitive.

Great analysis. End of.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 10, 2013, 08:57:49 AM
Than
Great analysis. End of.

Thanks. One thing I forgot to add: The going rate for that type of player, particularly with a bit of resale potential down the road, is somewhere in the £12-15M range. (That seems to be what Palermo is asking for Ilicic, and they *gasp* just got relegated! ) Honda, by all accounts, is available for a third of that right now. There is little chance we could get a player of that quality for that price regardless of position otherwise.

I often find it helpful to take an economic look at sport clubs. There is little difference to be had in the bottom, say, third of the table, aside from the occasional absolutely dreadful side. For them, spending a few million pounds could grant them an extra position at the end of the season, potentially guaranteeing safety. (Look at Southampton and the rumoured Wanyama move--great for them, as it's probably worth a spot or two in the table and the extra money that brings in.) But for teams higher in the pecking order (like us), it typically takes a more significant outlay (in terms of either transfer funds or time and effort in developing youth) to take the next step, even if the magnitude of that step in the final table is still the same one or two spots. Sure, we could pretty easily build a side to get into Europe with a few tens of millions of pounds, but we don't have that. So, when bargains come around that represent significant potential improvements at a low cost, they just make sense. (I'd be sorely tempted to add Diame for the same reason at £3.5M, but that may not be feasible.) And that's before you even consider any potential marketing impact having one of Japan's biggest stars might provide; he'll be in the limelight in Brazil next season, and having him at Goodison would be immense.

Honda, maybe Deulofeu on loan with Gueye leaving for £2M or so, and possibly Heitinga out (Diame in?), with no significant departures, and I'm ecstatic at this transfer window. Heck, just give me Honda and close the window now, and I'm dancing in the streets.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on July 10, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
The ginger Scotsman has also had to wait until he sold players before he could spend anything since 2008.

Remind me who we signed in January with the money Martinez is spending?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: howard1334 on July 10, 2013, 11:30:04 AM
Than
Thanks. One thing I forgot to add: The going rate for that type of player, particularly with a bit of resale potential down the road, is somewhere in the £12-15M range. (That seems to be what Palermo is asking for Ilicic, and they *gasp* just got relegated! ) Honda, by all accounts, is available for a third of that right now. There is little chance we could get a player of that quality for that price regardless of position otherwise.

I often find it helpful to take an economic look at sport clubs. There is little difference to be had in the bottom, say, third of the table, aside from the occasional absolutely dreadful side. For them, spending a few million pounds could grant them an extra position at the end of the season, potentially guaranteeing safety. (Look at Southampton and the rumoured Wanyama move--great for them, as it's probably worth a spot or two in the table and the extra money that brings in.) But for teams higher in the pecking order (like us), it typically takes a more significant outlay (in terms of either transfer funds or time and effort in developing youth) to take the next step, even if the magnitude of that step in the final table is still the same one or two spots. Sure, we could pretty easily build a side to get into Europe with a few tens of millions of pounds, but we don't have that. So, when bargains come around that represent significant potential improvements at a low cost, they just make sense. (I'd be sorely tempted to add Diame for the same reason at £3.5M, but that may not be feasible.) And that's before you even consider any potential marketing impact having one of Japan's biggest stars might provide; he'll be in the limelight in Brazil next season, and having him at Goodison would be immense.

Honda, maybe Deulofeu on loan with Gueye leaving for £2M or so, and possibly Heitinga out (Diame in?), with no significant departures, and I'm ecstatic at this transfer window. Heck, just give me Honda and close the window now, and I'm dancing in the streets.

Honestly, if we just go and sell Heitinga and purchase Honda, I think we would be in great shape.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 10, 2013, 12:59:48 PM
The ginger Scotsman has also had to wait until he sold players before he could spend anything since 2008.

but thanks to our recent investment from the Russian billionaire Roberto doesn't have to?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 10, 2013, 01:25:07 PM
The ginger Scotsman has also had to wait until he sold players before he could spend anything since 2008.

Or let us know who he has signed at the richest club in the world.
Or does he have to wait for Rooneys sale?

The only transfer activity there has been the formalities of the deals left in place by Ferguson
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 10, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
could do with wanyama or diame I think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: plumber on July 10, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
Why people are still talking about Honda as if he was a realistic target?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 10, 2013, 04:22:31 PM
I am beginning to think that Billy Lair´s dream will come true and that we will sell both Baines and Fellani.  DM has unsettled his left back at OT and one who had a top season so will have to pay EFC a decent price for Baines, whereas Arsenal or whoever will be forcing down the price until the start of the season for Fellani.   

The Liar will give Martínez about half of the proceeds over time and the rest to keep the ship above water.   
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Polledreng on July 10, 2013, 04:23:09 PM
Why people are still talking about Honda as if he was a realistic target?
don't take the dream away. I hate people being realistic  ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 10, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
Why people are still talking about Honda as if he was a realistic target?

We are dreaming the impossible dream
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 10, 2013, 04:35:12 PM
We are dreaming the impossible dream

I see what you did there!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 10, 2013, 05:19:31 PM
Remind me who we signed in January with the money Martinez is spending?

The money from this year's new tv deal that's available now?

Or if not the Fer money that would have been spent?

Also we've bought people that have had their equivalent of due diligence done by Martínez while he was at Wigan. It's no as though he's had to find out exactly what these 3 are like is it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
I am pleased with how Martinez has started but he has signed 3 "safe bets" as far as he is concerned, his real skill in the transfer market is yet to be tested. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
Seen a report that Flamini is eyeing a return to the prem on a free. He is 29, but I wanted him to join before he moved to Milan. He'd be a good acquisition and could give us 4 years of quality.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 10, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Well, so far so good in my opinion.

The signing of Joel Robles is an extremely exciting  piece of business. And a great sign for the future.

he's young, huge, comes from a great academy over at atletico, that has in recent times produced de gea, asenjo, the other guy whose name I have forgotten who currently plays for them. Also, was courtois from there or am I making that up? Either way, mans clearly got dat pedigree.

Then not to mention, he came into the frying pan that is a premier league relegation battle, and not only coped, but shone, deposing a decent, experienced keeper in al habsi, all at a young age. Especially for a keeper.

There seems to be a bit of tentative lip biting over konedog and the impenetrable fortress, even the suggestion that Martinez hasn't acclimatised to the dizzying heights of the top 8, instead signing players that were 'alright for a Wigan'.

My theory is that this season may not be about taking risks. He might not want to blow his first transfer fund on a VDM, a royston ricky drenthe or a bilya. Maybe what he wants to do, is supplement what we have. Sure up and holes, load the ballast and re-arm the cannons. You can't say el hefe has has done any less, really. We are stronger than before. We haven't broke the bank. And being honest, how many times last season did you watch kone getting goals and think 'him, again? Great signing.' I know I did.

Plus, early bells, blues, early bells. Man ain't even let us get out of July without spending paper. Let's see how we get on, eh, before sounding the alarm.

Young spaniard, goal machine, experienced defender. The portents, in my opinion, are good.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fynci on July 10, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
We're signing a player every day at the moment - what is going on?!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 10, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Seen a report that Flamini is eyeing a return to the prem on a free. He is 29, but I wanted him to join before he moved to Milan. He'd be a good acquisition and could give us 4 years of quality.

I'd love Flamini, even if we had to pay for him never mind on a free transfer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 10, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
Saw the Flamini news on SSN and thought the same, granted I've not seen much of him since his Arsenal days but he'd be a decent signing I think.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 10, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
I'd love Flamini, even if we had to pay for him never mind on a free transfer.

Imagine the uproar when we signed another 29 year old though?!

We don't care if they are brilliant, they have to be dead young (so we can sell them for mega bucks later) and the best player in the world at that position (NSNO is our motto you know)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: di_guyo on July 10, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
Well, so far so good in my opinion.

The signing of Joel Robles is an extremely exciting  piece of business. And a great sign for the future.

he's young, huge, comes from a great academy over at atletico, that has in recent times produced de gea, asenjo, the other guy whose name I have forgotten who currently plays for them. Also, was courtois from there or am I making that up? Either way, mans clearly got dat pedigree.

Then not to mention, he came into the frying pan that is a premier league relegation battle, and not only coped, but shone, deposing a decent, experienced keeper in al habsi, all at a young age. Especially for a keeper.

There seems to be a bit of tentative lip biting over konedog and the impenetrable fortress, even the suggestion that Martinez hasn't acclimatised to the dizzying heights of the top 8, instead signing players that were 'alright for a Wigan'.

My theory is that this season may not be about taking risks. He might not want to blow his first transfer fund on a VDM, a royston ricky drenthe or a bilya. Maybe what he wants to do, is supplement what we have. Sure up and holes, load the ballast and re-arm the cannons. You can't say el hefe has has done any less, really. We are stronger than before. We haven't broke the bank. And being honest, how many times last season did you watch kone getting goals and think 'him, again? Great signing.' I know I did.

Plus, early bells, blues, early bells. Man ain't even let us get out of July without spending paper. Let's see how we get on, eh, before sounding the alarm.

Young spaniard, goal machine, experienced defender. The portents, in my opinion, are good.


Courtois was not from Atletico, no. He has been on loan since 2011 though. Courtois and Asenjo are the only keepers in the squad at the moment, and Asenjo might leave. If you're thinking of a keeper maybe Jimenez, who we sold to Benfica and now plays for Zaragoza? If it is definitely someone still playing for a club, then I'm guessing not a keeper but it'd have to be Koke. Next one coming through is Oliver Torres.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Rhys on July 10, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
but thanks to our recent investment from the Russian billionaire Roberto doesn't have to?

No but thanks the new tv deal and having some extra money, as well as leroy fer failing a medical there was some available to spend.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: bluestevie on July 10, 2013, 08:50:23 PM
I am beginning to think that Billy Lair´s dream will come true and that we will sell both Baines and Fellani.  DM has unsettled his left back at OT and one who had a top season so will have to pay EFC a decent price for Baines, whereas Arsenal or whoever will be forcing down the price until the start of the season for Fellani.   

The Liar will give Martínez about half of the proceeds over time and the rest to keep the ship above water.   

My god man you are seriously deluded if you think a) It's Bill's dream to sell our best players and b) that Bainesy has been in any way unsettled by sheer speculation
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: jongre123 on July 10, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
Toffees now asking about #Rafinha. I can't say for SURE he's not coming to Goodison but queue of Liga clubs and Celta Vigo look v likely

Guessing it's Thiago's brother.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 10, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
Toffees now asking about #Rafinha. I can't say for SURE he's not coming to Goodison but queue of Liga clubs and Celta Vigo look v likely

Guessing it's Thiago's brother.

I hope so, I was thinking why the fuck would we want Rafinha the right back. Rafa Alacantara has just signed a 3 year deal aswell so seems likely he could be loaned out.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 09:13:35 PM
So fucking glad Moyes isnt our manager anymore
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 10, 2013, 09:17:41 PM
Rafinha:

Rafael Alcantara ● Written In The Stars ● 2012/2013 ● HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4WSJ8daA9s#ws)

Has a Chicharito-like knack for getting his head on the ball, for a smaller player. Looks lively in and around the box.

If it comes off, I hope we have the option to buy. Maybe tell Barcelona that we want the option to purchase either, but not both, for an agreed fee. Let them have a buyback period if they want, I don't care.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blob on July 10, 2013, 09:20:04 PM
quote from the ram

"So fucking glad Moyes isnt our manager anymore"

me too.

even if martinez doesn't turn out to be the oracle.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Rafinha:

Rafael Alcantara ● Written In The Stars ● 2012/2013 ● HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4WSJ8daA9s#ws)

Has a Chicharito-like knack for getting his head on the ball, for a smaller player. Looks lively in and around the box.

If it comes off, I hope we have the option to buy. Maybe tell Barcelona that we want the option to purchase either, but not both, for an agreed fee. Let them have a buyback period if they want, I don't care.

That part where he's pulling his socks up at 1:45 in was really class.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fynci on July 10, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
That part where he's pulling his socks up at 1:45 in was really class.

agreed, I really like his technique here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on July 10, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
Can someone kindly send me a brief run down of what's been said so I can update the original post later today?

Would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 10, 2013, 10:16:46 PM
agreed, I really like his technique here.

Can't teach that.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
Can someone kindly send me a brief run down of what's been said so I can update the original post later today?

Would be much appreciated.

I called the Kone signing well before anyone else.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 10, 2013, 10:19:08 PM
I called the Kone signing well before anyone else.
but after me :))
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
but after me :))

But you got it from twitter. I legit got told from someone, thus making me "ITK"
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 10, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
But you got it from twitter. I legit got told from someone, thus making me "ITK"
didn't get this off twitter O0
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Yeah, but what about the socks?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
We get a point then Verm?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 10, 2013, 10:31:34 PM
have we aquired a new delegation involved in transfers under martinez as they are getting finalised so much quicker
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 10:36:59 PM
have we aquired a new delegation involved in transfers under martinez as they are getting finalised so much quicker

Must have. Has Utd made a signing yet?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blob on July 10, 2013, 10:39:01 PM
Must have. Has Utd made a signing yet?

 lolol
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 10, 2013, 10:47:35 PM
Must have. Has Utd made a signing yet?

Not yet, however.......

Quote
Manchester United boss David Moyes has told talkSPORT the club are working hard to improve the squad.

"Don't be kidded by the lack of activity," Moyes said.

"Take it from me, we are working hard behind the scenes to try and improve the squad.


"The big thing is that Manchester United will always be in for the best players in the world.

"We are also very interested in developing our own players and bringing in potential players for the future. We are working on that just now."

Some things never change.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 10, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
Can someone kindly send me a brief run down of what's been said so I can update the original post later today?

Would be much appreciated.

Hard to tell really Verm. Lcab mentioned Kone about a month ago I think.and also said about Alcaraz

First I heard on Joel was through Fourth Official and I think he may have been first to mention Deulofeu as well

Should probably be noted that my sources (Pam from work) confirmed it would be a late July release for the home kit and also google images helped me find a picture of footy figures wearing our new kit before it was revealed.

Ram told us the correct day for the Kone signing.

Jimmy is in the loop with Lcab and knows his shit.

Dejo has told us there is a done deal for Baines. It hasnt even happened yet so that is some pretty powerful ITK'ing

One last thing is that Lcab did also strongly suggest we were signing McGeady and that hasnt happened yet
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
RamCab
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 10, 2013, 11:15:41 PM
In ram we trust

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 11:17:07 PM
In ram we trust

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2



God help us all then :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 10, 2013, 11:29:10 PM
Can someone kindly send me a brief run down of what's been said so I can update the original post later today?

Would be much appreciated.

That thing I PMd you the other month should help.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 11, 2013, 12:55:59 AM
did Silas call this loan?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on July 11, 2013, 12:56:24 AM

I legit got told from someone, thus making me "ITK"
Lol
You're never going to let us forget are you!


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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 11, 2013, 01:19:52 AM
did Silas call this loan?

as an employee of the site that puts us one up doesn't it? ;)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on July 11, 2013, 02:02:41 AM
Updated the best I could.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 11, 2013, 02:26:16 AM
Yikes. What is going on.

Quote
Fourth Official @FourthOfficial_
Everton are very much so interested in Victor Moses, Toffees want a loan deal, Chelsea want £8m but prepared to listen #efc #cfc
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 02:30:21 AM
Loan to buy would be fine with me and I suspect Chelsea would be ok with it as well unless someone else were to show serious interest.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 11, 2013, 02:31:15 AM
Yikes. What is going on.


Can't imagine this one happening.  There's quite a big difference between 8m and free for a year!

Chelsea have established he hasn't got a part in their future so reckon they will just want him out on a permanent
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 02:34:53 AM
Newsbot will see his Moses if we sign Victor tomorrow
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 02:43:54 AM
Can't imagine this one happening.  There's quite a big difference between 8m and free for a year!

Chelsea have established he hasn't got a part in their future so reckon they will just want him out on a permanent

If we did a guaranteed option to buy next year then I reckon they'd go for that, especially if the player made it clear he only wanted to come to us.

We could of course keep negotiations going for if someone was to leave.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blob on July 11, 2013, 02:46:20 AM
never rains, does it :)

all getting a bit hard to believe, and we're only just into july.

bring it all on.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blueToffee on July 11, 2013, 02:54:44 AM
I always thought Moses to Chelsea was a bit of strange one. I'd prefer a loan with option to buy myself, I can't think Chelsea are really going to be that desperate for the cash. Are we going after Valencia next? Are we going to recreate Wigan's greatest hits or something?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:03:26 AM
as an employee of the site that puts us one up doesn't it? ;)

Hang on do people know that yet? ;)

Anyway, I wouldn't say I called it, I just knock around the internet and pay attention to journos.  That may well be what an ITK does I wouldn't know. 

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:03:50 AM
I always thought Moses to Chelsea was a bit of strange one. I'd prefer a loan with option to buy myself, I can't think Chelsea are really going to be that desperate for the cash. Are we going after Valencia next? Are we going to recreate Wigan's greatest hits or something?

Think it was just one of their signings that they make just in case a player really develops and goes somewhere else and ends up with them having missed out.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Think it was just one of their signings that they make just in case a player really develops and goes somewhere else and ends up with them having missed out.


Which financially rich clubs can afford to do.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 11, 2013, 03:12:21 AM
Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
Toffees now asking about #Rafinha. I can't say for SURE he's not coming to Goodison but queue of Liga clubs and Celta Vigo look v likely

Guessing it's Thiago's brother.


Interesting!.

Was linked to him a couple of weeks ago, not sure we'll be in for him now we've signed Deulofeu.

But why don't we sign an agreement with Barca that allows us to loan and nurture there youngsters?!  ;D
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 11, 2013, 03:17:34 AM
Hang on do people know that yet? ;)

Anyway, I wouldn't say I called it, I just knock around the internet and pay attention to journos.  That may well be what an ITK does I wouldn't know. 

nobody is paying attention to us in this thread anyway mate

unless we post pictures of naked ladies or say we're signing Ronaldo then it'll just get passed by
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:18:05 AM
nobody is paying attention to us in this thread anyway mate

unless we post pictures of naked ladies or say we're signing Ronaldo then it'll just get passed by

Cool, I hate such and such, total cunts.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: sirblue57 on July 11, 2013, 03:20:10 AM
nobody is paying attention to us in this thread anyway mate

unless we post pictures of naked ladies or say we're signing Ronaldo then it'll just get passed by

we're signing naked ladies???? get in, loving this transfer window :) :)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on July 11, 2013, 03:22:11 AM
I always thought Moses to Chelsea was a bit of strange one. I'd prefer a loan with option to buy myself, I can't think Chelsea are really going to be that desperate for the cash. Are we going after Valencia next? Are we going to recreate Wigan's greatest hits or something?
.......can't wait to hear Wigan's Ovation ( for older readers only )
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
I saw that Si but I always thought David was 'employed" by the site to write opinion pieces etc. has the role changed?  It doesn't appear that he has been modded
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 11, 2013, 03:25:08 AM
I saw that Si but I always thought David was 'employed" by the site to write opinion pieces etc. has the role changed?  It doesn't appear that he has been modded

his role has been adapted to include the writing of "news' pieces too now to join Bally, Thom, and myself - as well as Gash when the mood takes him ;) - but organisationally, the forum has enough "staff" (for now!)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:26:40 AM
Don't know why but it always weird me out when I see my real name on here!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:27:37 AM
Which financially rich clubs can afford to do.

One of my pet hates of the modern game.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:28:27 AM
One of my pet hates of the modern game.

Indeed, I think it's what we have done with Stones to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 03:29:04 AM
Im not gonna divulge anymore info until my names on the OP.

"Where's the Ram quote Verm?"
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:34:46 AM
Indeed, I think it's what we have done with Stones to a lesser extent.

Yes it probably is.

You don't notice it with younger players as much. But the gravitating of smaller teams' best players to the benches, or worse, of the big clubs must dilute the quality levels of the majority of teams.

Ultimately leading to only a few teams who can challenge for the title.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:36:01 AM
Don't know why but it always weird me out when I see my real name on here!

It would weird me out too. Like people know who I am or something

So now we can blame you for Delayed newsbot? or does Si believe you ITK so Newsbot can be be more with it
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:36:32 AM
Yes it probably is.

You don't notice it with younger players as much. But the gravitating of smaller teams' best players to the benches, or worse, of the big clubs must dilute the quality levels of the majority of teams.

Ultimately leading to only a few teams who can challenge for the title.

City being the absolute worst culprits for destroying the teams below them. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:38:53 AM
It would weird me out too. Like people know who I am or something

So now we can blame you for Delayed newsbot? or does Si believe you ITK so Newsbot can be be more with it

Well I can be apportioned a percentage of the blame, I suggest a small percentage ;) newsbots been changed a bit to be a little more current now though so it shouldn't be as delayed as a rule.

And I think my links are tenuous at best!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:39:04 AM
City being the absolute worst culprits for destroying the teams below them. 

Chelsea have an apaling record amte. the amount of players they have loaned out is mind boggling and for many of them they paid top dollar too.

Spurs is the same for midfielders
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Alanvideo on July 11, 2013, 03:40:20 AM
Indeed, I think it's what we have done with Stones to a lesser extent.
...............Stones was on the point of signing for Wigan when we ' swooped ' for him. Maybe he knew something.Have to get this in somewhere .Wigans Ovation `Skiing In The Snow`. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhxAKQ3zTM#) :cheers:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:41:11 AM
City being the absolute worst culprits for destroying the teams below them. 

They have been bad.

But then at Utd someone like Smalling gets some games but hardly loads - should he not be playing every week somewhere?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:43:12 AM
They have been bad.

But then at Utd someone like Smalling gets some games but hardly loads - should he not be playing every week somewhere?

Yes he should, the problem is likely the over inflated wages he is on because of where he is as well which only compounds the issue, he probably won't push for a move.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 03:44:04 AM
Not been keeping up since this afternoon. Who's the next most likely signing, if any?

Moses? Rafinha?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:44:42 AM
Not been keeping up since this afternoon. Who's the next most likely signing, if any?

Moses? Rafinha?

By all accounts Moses although far from done or nailed on.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:45:20 AM
Yes he should, the problem is likely the over inflated wages he is on because of where he is as well which only compounds the issue, he probably won't push for a move.

Even if he did they'd just sign someone from another team.

*shakes head in rueful manner*
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:45:20 AM
Not been keeping up since this afternoon. Who's the next most likely signing, if any?

Moses? Rafinha?

Why only one? We can do up to 3 per day. i say, Moses, Honda and Eto.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Vespa on July 11, 2013, 03:47:23 AM
Baines on a 5 year deal would be my next one!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 03:57:27 AM
Baines on a 5 year deal would be my next one!

There's always this.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 11, 2013, 04:14:51 AM
Baines on a 5 year deal would be my next one!

Bang on Vespa!

It would be the biggest signing of the summer so far......IMO
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 04:57:50 AM
his role has been adapted to include the writing of "news' pieces too now to join Bally, Thom, and myself - as well as Gash when the mood takes him ;) - but organisationally, the forum has enough "staff" (for now!)

Wordpress doesn't work properly on my work PC.*
















*we'll that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 11, 2013, 05:09:33 AM
I am all for all these wingers we are being linked with, but we are still in dire need of another CM to play alongside Fellaini. We cannot rely on Gibson for a full season and i really never felt like Everton were dominating the midfield when Osman sat deep, i always preferred him further forward.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on July 11, 2013, 05:22:41 AM
Im not gonna divulge anymore info until my names on the OP.

"Where's the Ram quote Verm?"

I tend to stick to people who are more prolific with info so I don't have a first post that goes on forever.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2013, 05:25:08 AM
I am all for all these wingers we are being linked with, but we are still in dire need of another CM to play alongside Fellaini. We cannot rely on Gibson for a full season and i really never felt like Everton were dominating the midfield when Osman sat deep, i always preferred him further forward.

Can't imagine we'll go out and get a 20yo cm on loan when fellaini could leave, giving us 20mil to replace him (maybe with two players).

What I mean is, we might be waiting to see how the fellaini sitch plays out before spending on a cm. Although wouldn't be surprised to see one come in either way.

P.s. I wonder what Barkley and lundstram add to the cm debate..
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 05:33:46 AM
I tend to stick to people who are more prolific with info so I don't have a first post that goes on forever.

Next time you're in work Im gonna come down and shout at you through the shankley gates.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 11, 2013, 06:04:09 AM
Next time you're in work Im gonna come down and shout at you through the shankley gates.

'Where's the itk thread money verm?'
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: billbones80 on July 11, 2013, 06:26:43 AM
I am all for all these wingers we are being linked with, but we are still in dire need of another CM to play alongside Fellaini. We cannot rely on Gibson for a full season and i really never felt like Everton were dominating the midfield when Osman sat deep, i always preferred him further forward.

Totally agree, not to mention the lack of cover. People are saying Felli will move back but I'm not even sure he will be still here come the 31st of Aug!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2013, 06:28:47 AM
Totally agree, not to mention the lack of cover. People are saying Felli will move back but I'm not even sure he will be still here come the 31st of Aug!

If he isn't, then we'll have plenty of money to buy a couple of decent centre midfielders with.

Funny how a couple of years ago, all we had was centre mids and no wide men.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: billbones80 on July 11, 2013, 06:31:00 AM
True I just think we need at least four options in the CM position and badly need a stronger more defensive one in my opinion. But I shall wait till the window closes before I moan! Quite happy with the squad additions so far...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2013, 06:34:40 AM
At present we have Fellaini, Gibson, Pienaar and Osman as first choices who are all comfortable in the middle.

Then we have Barkley who can play further forward who's coming through, and even as an absolute last resort, Heitinga can do something there.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 06:38:59 AM
Think we need better than Gibson starting in the middle
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: billbones80 on July 11, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
Fair enough I just think we need a more athletic, energetic defensive option in there...I do hope Barkley gets more minutes but I assume he will play further forward? I just hope we have enough time to replace if the inevitable bid comes in for Felli.....
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Fonz on July 11, 2013, 07:36:20 AM
Think we need better than Gibson starting in the middle
Yes, I think we need another CM, if no 1 goes. But you must be happy so far?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: david smallman on July 11, 2013, 01:42:34 PM
At present we have Fellaini, Gibson, Pienaar and Osman as first choices who are all comfortable in the middle.

Then we have Barkley who can play further forward who's coming through, and even as an absolute last resort, Heitinga can do something there.
Heitinga is awful there not even at last resort
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
Fourth Official: We have 20million to spend PLUS anything from player sales


What?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Macca77 on July 11, 2013, 02:58:27 PM
Fourth Official: We have 20million to spend PLUS anything from player sales


What?

If only that were true
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Kenwright specifically mentioned he had gone the bank and asked them for funds to provide for a new manager.

£20m from increased TV money - £6m to cover last seasons operating loss, maybe a prediction of another £4m for the projected loss this forthcoming season leaves £10m
Not beyond reasonable to expect a bank to release another £10m credit now our turnover will look more like £100m as opposed to £80m is is?

I for one can utterly believe we have £20m. especially as the board have categorically stated that this season the only players to leave will be those that ask to leave or have buy-out clauses.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 11, 2013, 03:05:09 PM
At the press conference I recall Bill saying he will give Roberto a "Few Quid" to spend on new players...could a few be £20 million?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 11, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
Fourth Official: We have 20million to spend PLUS anything from player sales


What?

bold statement from him that though
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 03:41:19 PM
THT just said that we still have money but dont expect any more signings at present as Bob wants to assess the squad
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Fourth Official: We have 20million to spend PLUS anything from player sales


What?

All the more reason not to get too excited. IF that's true then it would appear that we've spent next years extra TV money, so probably back to bread and water from next summer again.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
All the more reason not to get too excited. IF that's true then it would appear that we've spent next years extra TV money, so probably back to bread and water from next summer again.

No, it doesn't.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
No, it doesn't.

So where's the £20m come from other than bank loans, something we've not been very successful at getting in the past. We also have a history of borrowing on future TV money.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
See my last post.

but besides that, I don't understand why you would think us getting an increased £20m this year and spending it would result in the loss of the £20m extra we get next year.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
See my last post.

but besides that, I don't understand why you would think us getting an increased £20m this year and spending it would result in the loss of the £20m extra we get next year.

If we've got the extra money this year then fine, I'm not sure Sky or anyone else have confirmed it's been paid this year, as it doesn't come in to force until this season coming? Maybe Sky have advanced some of the money to the clubs, I don't know if they have, the only place I've heard it rumoured is here?

Either way, £20m PLUS player sales sounds hugely optimistic.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on July 11, 2013, 04:21:37 PM
If we've got the extra money this year then fine, I'm not sure Sky or anyone else have confirmed it's been paid this year, as it doesn't come in to force until this season coming? Maybe Sky have advanced some of the money to the clubs, I don't know if they have, the only place I've heard it rumoured is here?

Either way, £20m PLUS player sales sounds hugely optimistic.

It's probably the compo we got for Steve Round and Chris Woods...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
I was under the impression the payment was made on the 5th of August FOR next season.

The money is for next season yes. But do you not pay for image/broadcast rights upfront not in in retrospect.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
I was under the impression the payment was made on the 5th of August FOR next season.

The money is for next season yes. But do you not pay for image/broadcast rights upfront not in in retrospect.

Could be, I'm honestly not sure? I thought the money paid in August was paid in arrears based on the previous season, as how will they know how you perform next season?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 11, 2013, 04:35:01 PM
Could be, I'm honestly not sure? I thought the money paid in August was paid in arrears based on the previous season, as how will they know how you perform next season?

The tv money is paid in 2 installments. We get a big chunk in August and then the rest later

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Gash on July 11, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
The tv money is paid in 2 installments. We get a big chunk in August and then the rest later

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

Ah right, so will that include next season extra money?

Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Simon Paul on July 11, 2013, 04:44:06 PM
Ww borrow on advanced money anyway so all this payment will do is free up a line of credit that will be retaken

The fact that future tv money is higher allows us to borrow more

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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
The 'large chunk' is the minimum payment that everyone will get. That's the August payment and will include this '£20m' this year

The second payment is the 'per match above the minimum payments' that you get.
Not 100% sure when that comes in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 11, 2013, 04:47:17 PM
Has part of that 20m been spent on Kone, Joel, Alcaraz and Depardieu?

Or is it that we have 20m to spend still!

I'm probably being too optimistic arent i?!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Has part of that 20m been spent on Kone, Joel, Alcaraz and Depardieu?

Or is it that we have 20m to spend still!

I'm probably being too optimistic arent i?!

Been told it's all being spent on a new contract for John Heitinga.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
Has part of that 20m been spent on Kone, Joel, Alcaraz and Depardieu?

Or is it that we have 20m to spend still!

I'm probably being too optimistic arent i?!

hahahaha, yes. That's close to kopite optimism that
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
I ain't exactly thick but, I struggle to keep up with this tv money and whatever else money malarky. All's I'm arsed about is, if we sign players then sound. If we sell players then then errr...not sound.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
I ain't exactly thick but, I struggle to keep up with this tv money and whatever else money malarky. All's I'm arsed about is, if we sign players then sound. If we sell players then then errr...not sound.

Unless the proceeds are used to buy better players. Then sort of sound-ish
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 11, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
One of the club´s problems is that it has limited or non-existent access to traditional lenders for long-term funding. I cannot quite follow Mick´s logic that because this year was a bumper year in Sky TV money Barclays will be keen to take a chance with a Board of directors of a company that itself refuses to risk any of its own money.

Every summer its the same, nervous experience. Who is Kenright (who is nothing more than an administrator) going to sell so that we can buy someone else? Nothing he says can be taking at face value. He has reduced fans´expectations, somehow skirted around his own responsibility and got us all thinking like bookeepers. 

         
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 11, 2013, 04:55:41 PM
One of the club´s problems is that it has limited or non-existent access to traditional lenders for long-term funding. I cannot quite follow Mick´s logic that because this year was a bumper year in Sky TV money Barclays will be keen to take a chance with a Board of directors of a company that itself refuses to risk any of its own money.

Every summer its the same, nervous experience. Who is Kenright (who is nothing more than an administrator) going to sell so that we can buy someone else? Nothing he says can be taking at face value. He has reduced fans´expectations, somehow skirted around his own responsibility and got us all thinking like bookeepers. 

         

Well I'm happy with the 4 players weve got in so far anyway!better than some summers already.

Nice one Mr Kenwright
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
Unless the proceeds are used to buy better players. Then sort of sound-ish

Fair point.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 11, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
Fair point.

My point exactly.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
One of the club´s problems is that it has limited or non-existent access to traditional lenders for long-term funding. I cannot quite follow Mick´s logic that because this year was a bumper year in Sky TV money Barclays will be keen to take a chance with a Board of directors of a company that itself refuses to risk any of its own money.

Every summer its the same, nervous experience. Who is Kenright (who is nothing more than an administrator) going to sell so that we can buy someone else? Nothing he says can be taking at face value. He has reduced fans´expectations, somehow skirted around his own responsibility and got us all thinking like bookeepers. 

         

Because its an extra £20m EVERY YEAR.
That's why. Our turnover will go from circa £80m to circa £100m whilst our outgoings stay in and around £85m.
They may now rise a bit to be fair, but before player trading we should now be making a reasonable profit.

Of course, for a lot of reasons making a profit doesn't make a good business plan in some circumstance so I would expect our accounts to read that we are 'in and around cutting even'

(and I couldn't be bothered getting into the circular argument with you as to why its nonsense to think the board should risk their own money)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
Been told it's all being spent on a new contract for John Heitinga.

Thats not even funny lad.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 11, 2013, 06:00:56 PM
The fact that a Board of Directors invests in its company is nonsense and that that should not be a factor taken into account by a lender when making a credit decision?

Like you I don't want to get involved in your circular arguments. But try not to be too arrogant when you are also ignorant.

I await Barclays and the other main corporate lenders piling into the Kenright Project.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Trowel on July 11, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
Fourth Official - in advanced talks for Moses, loan deal with view to buy.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 06:46:40 PM
Fourth Official - in advanced talks for Moses, loan deal with view to buy.

Everton transfers: They're like vitamins. One a day.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 11, 2013, 06:49:40 PM
Bob needs to crack on, it's nearly 1pm and we haven't signed anyone today.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 11, 2013, 06:50:27 PM
Now its getting interesting...we are going from strength to strength at the minute, just hope we don't let anyone go now .. except heitinga or gueye , but then we are reducing our squad again albeit we have better players in the bench.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 11, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
I'd fucking love to see Moses here
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 06:50:52 PM
Bob needs to crack on, it's nearly 1pm and we haven't signed anyone today.

treble this.

This transfer activity is like that blue crystal meth
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 06:52:09 PM
I'd fucking love to see Moses here

Totally agree with this
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on July 11, 2013, 06:57:28 PM
i dont know i suppose all players are a good signing but with current squad

                   Howard

coleman jagielka distin baines

              fellaini gibson
 
                   pienaar

mirallas                        deulofeu
           
                    jelavic   

thats a quality team, osman and barkley both will be looking pienaars slot, kone battling with jelavic, anichebe there too, pienaar could easily move up to deulofeus position and we still have a strong enough bench with a lot of promising youngsters who might get a game or two
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Zoolander on July 11, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
I imagine its now easier for us to borrow - say this suggested 20 million. As we've no player instalments to other teams outstanding (that I can think of) plus this further tv money in the pipeline.


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Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 07:02:27 PM
Bob needs to crack on, it's nearly 1pm and we haven't signed anyone today.

Why the fuck wasn't Moyes like this? I mean, what's changed?

Martinez has come in and BOOM! strengthened the squad in all positions within 3 days with more to come.

I'll be gutted when the club eventually say "our transfer activity is done for the summer!!"
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 07:05:41 PM
Moses is a top talent, going to be interesting to see how Martinez juggles his team and gives all the stars decent time though.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blue slug on July 11, 2013, 07:11:48 PM
if we are in advanced talks for moses i cant understand why we have got that barca kid on loan. Dont think we need 2 additional wide players to be honest. I would prefer to see another cm come in.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 07:13:16 PM
if we are in advanced talks for moses i cant understand why we have got that barca kid on loan. Dont think we need 2 additional wide players to be honest. I would prefer to see another cm come in.

Both Moses and Deulofeu can play up top as well.  You play a forward three and you need these sort of options. 
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
if we are in advanced talks for moses i cant understand why we have got that barca kid on loan. Dont think we need 2 additional wide players to be honest. I would prefer to see another cm come in.

What if Deufoleu got injured? Mirallas got injured?
I agree we need a cm but I am not gonna knock is signing quality players whatever the position they play
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 11, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
Four wide players is hardly too many. Especially considering Delofeu is practically free (we pay no fee for Barca for the loan).
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: School of Science on July 11, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Moses is a top talent, going to be interesting to see how Martinez juggles his team and gives all the stars decent time though.

I think Martinez being the continental type manager will rotate his team more than Moyes did. Saying that Moyes  didn't have that much to juggle with.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
Four wide players is hardly too many. Especially considering Delofeu is practically free (we pay no fee for Barca for the loan).

Plus we don't know what role Pienaar might have.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blue slug on July 11, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
I wasnt knocking the fact that we have got two additional wide players, so long as it doesnt mean we cant get in another cm. Like you say Jimmy and Silas all quality players will give us more options. Getting excited about new season now. All we need to add is diame at £3.5m and complete the moses signing and it will have been an amazing transfer window for us. Just think if we got honda too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
Moses would fucking kill me off. I think he's absolute top fucking quality.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 11, 2013, 08:02:10 PM
Fourth Official ‏@FourthOfficial_ 4m
Everton in advanced talks for Victor Moses, believe its a loan deal with a view to buy, could change however #efc #cfc

this is full fourth official tweet i wonder if moses is one of a few they are interested in
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2013, 08:03:57 PM
Moses would fucking kill me off. I think he's absolute top fucking quality.

He's a monster, would love him here.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 11, 2013, 08:04:34 PM
Got a feeling hat McGeady stuff is bollocks from last week.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
Got a feeling hat McGeady stuff is bollocks from last week.

I think he's very much 3rd choice after Moses and Dyer.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 11, 2013, 08:07:50 PM
An I the only person that doesn't rate Moses that highly?

SWP MK 2 in my opinion.

If he were that good Chelsea wouldn't want rid.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Makis on July 11, 2013, 08:11:23 PM
An I the only person that doesn't rate Moses that highly?

SWP MK 2 in my opinion.

If he were that good Chelsea wouldn't want rid.
Yeah, no Hazard he ain't.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
SWP was really good in certain set ups.

And "not good enough" to win the league or the champions league (Chelseas targets) is not the same as "not good enough" to win the fa cup or finish in the top 6. (which are our targets)
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 11, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
An I the only person that doesn't rate Moses that highly?
SWP MK 2 in my opinion.

If he were that good Chelsea wouldn't want rid.

Yes.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
In a squad as big as Chelsea's it would be hard to get a game on a regular basis. Demba Ba was cracking them in for Newcastle, signs for Chelsea then hardly gets a look in. Doesn't necessarily make him a shit player.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: steve81 on July 11, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
“@Declan1878: @FourthOfficial_ how much money did you say we have to spend was it 20 mill????” Yeah at start of window

hope this is true
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 11, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
An I the only person that doesn't rate Moses that highly?

SWP MK 2 in my opinion.

If he were that good Chelsea wouldn't want rid.

I'd have taken SWP after he was at Chelsea for a year aswell though, the only reason he ended up so shite was becuase he was happy enough to sit around there for years and it seems Moses isn't.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 09:04:40 PM
Moses and SWP are very different players. I really don't see the comparison at all.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on July 11, 2013, 09:07:38 PM
Moses and SWP are very different players. I really don't see the comparison at all.

Moses can actually sort of play football for a start!!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Moses can actually sort of play football for a start!!

He's also not pint-sized and can play anywhere across the front as opposed to having to play on the right-wing.

He's only 22 or 23 so still lots of time to improve and a loan deal with a view to buy would give us a chance to see if he could really help the team.

We are going to have a lot of options this year if this deal comes off, some actual game changing substitutions (other than the Chebes) will be possible!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 11, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
He's also not pint-sized and can play anywhere across the front as opposed to having to play on the right-wing.

He's only 22 or 23 so still lots of time to improve and a loan deal with a view to buy would give us a chance to see if he could really help the team.

We are going to have a lot of options this year if this deal comes off, some actual game changing substitutions (other than the Chebes) will be possible!

Going to be amazing seeing our bench next year when it's 7 players who on another day could have started.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 09:52:44 PM
Going to be amazing seeing our bench next year when it's 7 players who on another day could have started.

There will be players fighting for spots in the squad, let alone first XI the way things are going.

We could have Robles, Alcaraz, Heitinga, Duffy, Oviedo, Hibbert, Barkley, Pienaar, Deulofeu, Anichebe, Jelavic (or something similar) all fighting to make the bench.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 11, 2013, 09:54:50 PM
Going to be amazing seeing our bench next year when it's 7 players who on another day could have started.

Right now, more or less, since we don't know exactly how Martinez will line us up:
                      Howard
Coleman   Jagielka   Distin   Baines
               Fellaini       Gibson
Mirallas           Osman         Pienaar
                         Koné

With a bench of Robles, Heitinga/Alcaraz, Oviedo, Barkley, Deulofeu, Jelavic, Anichebe. Then there's Hibbert, Stones, Duffy, Gueye, Naismith, Vellios, and all the young lads to sprinkle in.

That doesn't actually look half-bad. Deulofeu could start, pushing Pienaar into a central position. Barkley could play the AM role. Or there's the possibility for a Mirallas-Kone-Jelavic strikeforce, with Fellaini-Pienaar-Gibson/Osman/Barkley in behind.

If there's anything to the rumours, Moses could play on either wing or up front. Jorginho could play anything from a holding role beside Fellaini to an attacking creative force. So, for that matter, could Honda. Assuming no departures, Diamé would likely start games beside Fellaini.

Very exciting.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
There will be players fighting for spots in the squad, let alone first XI the way things are going.

We could have Robles, Alcaraz, Heitinga, Duffy, Oviedo, Hibbert, Barkley, Pienaar, Deulofeu, Anichebe, Jelavic (or something similar) all fighting to make the bench.

Means there can be no talk about injury problems or thin squads. Which was the excuse given for relegation last year.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 10:01:12 PM
What has really changed for me is that now when we linked with a player, we usually get him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 10:01:13 PM
Means there can be no talk about injury problems or thin squads. Which was the excuse given for relegation last year.


I think we were quite lucky last year that we didn't have too many injury troubles.

I actually don't mind have a small squad as I think it has some advantages (less complaints about playing time, easier to build good relationships among squad members), but if want to compete from the start of the season to the end in the league and cups, we need a larger squad capable of replacing each other without a huge drop in quality.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: efcraz on July 11, 2013, 10:09:50 PM
I think we were quite lucky last year that we didn't have too many injury troubles.

I actually don't mind have a small squad as I think it has some advantages (less complaints about playing time, easier to build good relationships among squad members), but if want to compete from the start of the season to the end in the league and cups, we need a larger squad capable of replacing each other without a huge drop in quality.

This and the fact that our subs were just getting predictable, you knew that kev would be replaced by Naismith, same goes for Vic and Jelavic, we have added an element of surprise to the team. 3 strikers 3 wingers (if you include Peinaar) there is a lot of guess work as to how were going to line up and then react during the game
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 11, 2013, 10:11:01 PM
It's 16:10, why has no one signed yet today?

Martinez out!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Danny on July 11, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
It's 16:10, why has no one signed yet today?

Martinez out!

Wheres the 11th of July money gone Bill?
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bigjmill on July 12, 2013, 04:29:22 AM
Imagine all this magical football we are expecting on our brand new state of the art pitch !
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Bluedylan on July 12, 2013, 04:54:42 AM
Given that we're bringing quite a few new lads in to the squad, and have a new manager trying to evolve the way we play, it might take a while for us to find consistency this season. We might even have the odd shocker.

But regardless of that, how fucking nice is it to feel a bit optimistic about things for a change? The general atmosphere in here has improved beyond belief and I'm buzzing to see everyone buzzing.

Suddenly we've got options, we've got an abundance of creative players. We've still got our brilliant defence. We've got a young keeper to put pressure on Tim. We've got one of the most exciting young English midfielders coming through, who will get more game time than before. And it appears that he doesn't wanna sell Felli (unless his clause is activated) and more importantly Bainesy, unless we get a ridiculous offer.

And, assuming the 20 mill rumours are true, there's fucking more to come.....! :woohoo:
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Macca77 on July 12, 2013, 02:03:28 PM
Ended interest in Moses according to the echo
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 12, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Ended interest in Moses according to the echo

Aye just saw that. Says Roberto is going to assess the current squad. I suspect he will make a judgement after seeing a few pre season friendlies and see if there's any areas he needs strengthening. I wouldn't expect another signing for at least a week or 2. Unless someone is sold who is a brilliant left back or a massive belgian with an afro
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 12, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Ended interest in Moses according to the echo

I guess a loan deal was out of the question and Bob currently doesn't have the 8m to spunge on him.

I think we'll here more about Moses before the end of the window.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: bigmanbob on July 12, 2013, 02:49:44 PM
Can't say I'm that arsed about Moses, he's a bit hit and miss
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 12, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
Might be someone we go back to right at the end of the window if we still need that type of player and they're not going to use him and haven't been able to sell him.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Ross on July 12, 2013, 04:30:55 PM
Might be someone we go back to right at the end of the window if we still need that type of player and they're not going to use him and haven't been able to sell him.

I agree the interest was clearly us needing a specific type of player to compliment the style Bobby would like us to play. It's actually to early in the window for the loaning out of good squad players just to get them games, those sort of transfers normally happen right at the end.

Also Mourinho will probably want to take a close up look at him before judging whether he's going to be an asset for them this season or not.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 12, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Might be someone we go back to right at the end of the window if we still need that type of player and they're not going to use him and haven't been able to sell him.

Why do you think they want rid GL after just one season?

I'm not totally impressed by Moses TBH, seems to fluff his lines more often than not from what I've seen. But could be decent for us at the right price.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: GLewis on July 12, 2013, 06:58:29 PM
Why do you think they want rid GL after just one season?

I'm not totally impressed by Moses TBH, seems to fluff his lines more often than not from what I've seen. But could be decent for us at the right price.

Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle would be my guess why they might not need him!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blue slug on July 12, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
Spot on GLewis. He is just going to waste away on the bench at chelsea. I think with a good run of games he could become a very good player
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 12, 2013, 08:18:41 PM
Plus Mourinho didn't sign him in the first place and may not even rate him.

I'm not bothered about him to be honest.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 12, 2013, 10:17:59 PM
Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle would be my guess why they might not need him!

And they've already loaned out Marin, plus whatever happens to De Bruyne. Chelsea have an abundance of attacking types, so Moses may be the odd man out eventually.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blue slug on July 12, 2013, 11:20:39 PM
Forgot they had marin and de brunye. What are they doing stock piling attacking mids. They are all really young to, think mata is the oldest and he is about 24 i think
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: TrevorSteven on July 13, 2013, 12:01:59 AM
I would be very surprised if we see any more signings without a sale first. I guess we have the funds, but I dont think we have the wage budget for it. Correct me if I am wrong but we have seen Muca, Neville and Hitz go - with Moyes beeing one of the worlds best paid managers at Everton I would also guess we have slashed the wage bill with up to 50 percent in that position. Taking that into account I would guess we are pretty much even after bringing in Joel in goal, Alcaraz, Deulofeu and Kone. With regard to how much percent of our turnover the wage bill was last year I cant see that Everton should expand that budget.

If I am correct in that analyses I just cant see any more signings before one or two goes. Potentially someone goes for a crazy bid of Baines or someone activate Fellis release clause, but with the World Cup coming up after the season I really dont think they want to gamble with a move this year. My biggest problem with David Moyes herritage is that he never left us with some decent squad players we can cash in on. The only players we can sell is Heitinga and Naismith where the latter one probably will give us small money. We have almost no players we could easily get 6m for and thats a huge problem. Look at Liverpool selling the shit Shelvey for around that price, United almost every year selling a new O´Shea for crazy money. We dont have those kind of players.

Still I hope Heitinga and Naismith goes and we go for one more signing - and it HAS to be a central midfielder! We only have Felli and Gibson as decent deeper midfielders and gonna need one more over a long season. But as long as no players go out I guess its gonna be pretty quiet for a time now.

What I really like about the signings we already have sealed is that they create a battle for the places. Suddenly we have three decent (nothing more) strikers and five great attacking midfielders and for the first time in his career Howard have experienced a goalkeeper beeing bought for fighting for places not for sitting on the bench like Moyes always did. Ofcourse this can also backfire on us because our crop of players hasnt experienced squad rotations for years and we all saw how incredible unhappy Heitinga became quite early last season. How will Osman, who fights for a world cup place, react to beeing on the bench (which I hope he will) as an example.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 13, 2013, 12:16:26 AM
Heitinga and Naismith out to finance a move for Diame would work well.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 13, 2013, 12:20:25 AM
Naismith isn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: blargins on July 13, 2013, 12:21:27 AM
Please. It's been such a good summer so far.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 13, 2013, 03:56:09 AM
Naismith isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, I'm hoping we leave him behind in Austria too.
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Shogun on July 13, 2013, 06:28:23 AM


John Merro@johnmerro1
Heard today, Leighton Baines ( the best full back in world football ) is staying on at the best team on Merseyside, long term...
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Eddie on July 13, 2013, 06:40:02 AM

John Merro@johnmerro1
Heard today, Leighton Baines ( the best full back in world football ) is staying on at the best team on Merseyside, long term...

As others have mentioned this would be by far our best signing...fingers crossed!
Title: Re: The ITK Thread 2013/14 (Regularly Updated)
Post by: Verm on July 13, 2013, 08:58:58 AM

John Merro@johnmerro1
Heard today, Leighton Baines ( the best full back in world football ) is staying on at the best team on Merseyside, long term...

Would be amazing if true.
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Post by: phillyt on July 13, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
If baines stays do I get an itk point for calling it in.the baines done deal thread? Before even ram fingered it out of leightons family.  ?
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Post by: blue slug on July 13, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
Really hope this is true, even if it means saying ta ta to fellaini to sign more players to be honest
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Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 13, 2013, 04:45:27 PM
Really hope this is true, even if it means saying ta ta to fellaini to sign more players to be honest


Baines would be very hard to replace, he's got the whole package, can defend and attack just as good as each other!. I know we've got LB's in the squad and there are good ones in world football but would any of those give us the same as Baines does, I don't think so.

As for Fellaini, there's a load of CM's we could pick up to replace him across the globe. As good as Fellaini can be, he's definitely more replaceable and i'd be more at ease if he went than if Bainesy did.

Players are ambitious and want winners medals and CL footy, but some players understand how fortunate they are to be in the position they are in in there lives with the riches they earn in football and  enjoy there work at the club there at and sometimes find that more appealing than moving on for bigger money and more chances of winning titles, take Jags for example, had plenty of opportunities to move to Arsenal, and ok, they haven't exactly been winning things but you could say they've got better chances than us due to there finances, but he's never wanted to go, loves it at us and values that more over going elsewhere for more money and stuff!.

I really do think Bainesy is cut from the same cloth and loves it at Everton and is comfortable and does actually think we can possibly kick on and give him the opportunity of winning something and maybe making the CL in time.

But IF he does or did go, then so be it and good luck to the lad cos he's a top pro, a top player and deserves it really but ive got a feeling he'll stay.
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Post by: dekko on July 13, 2013, 05:39:02 PM

John Merro@johnmerro1
Heard today, Leighton Baines ( the best full back in world football ) is staying on at the best team on Merseyside, long term...

Would be best news!!
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Post by: ForzaItalia on July 13, 2013, 07:15:19 PM