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Title: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 06:46:09 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/922771072415686656 :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 06:54:29 PM
I'm not sure how this is panning out at the moment, but I'm quite sure he and his agents will be watching the way things are going with much more interest. What with all this upheaval, and the events that are taking place.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 06:55:53 PM
I've got to be honest, it's not top of my priorities at the moment, it pales into insignificance until we get a new manager
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: boothill on October 24, 2017, 06:57:55 PM
Hope not , i think hes a lot better than was brought in
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2017, 07:00:55 PM
Really hoping he stays, i love him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 07:01:33 PM
I've got to be honest, it's not top of my priorities at the moment, it pales into insignificance until we get a new manager



I just want to make sure he's not forgotten in all of the changes that will be taking place. You don't have to vote mate. I'm interested in what other people think, now that the whole situation's up in the air.  :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 07:03:10 PM


I just want to make sure he's not forgotten in all of the changes that will be taking place. You don't have to vote mate. I'm interested what other people think now that the whole situation is up in the air.  :)
Fair do's :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 07:14:03 PM
Roberto told him he would an England great in the future, so we can't afford to let him slip away.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on October 24, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
Well with Koeman gone he can now sign that contract now can't he.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on October 24, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
I hope so, but I doubt it.

More of a chance now than before though.

Weíd have to pay him well over the top in terms of wages and hope we can sign a really inspirational manager.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 24, 2017, 07:41:14 PM
No - he's ready for the north circular
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: plumber on October 24, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Of course he'll sign! Everton's future is much brighter now than it was a year or half a year ago.





Wait a minute.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 07:45:19 PM
Plumber, you are plumbing the depths of optimism.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on October 24, 2017, 08:17:24 PM
I think he will consider staying if the manager comes in and shows he supports and values Ross. I donít think it will take too much for the right man to convince him to sign, even if itís maybe a one or two year extension to see how it goes. And then at the end of this season itís not working out we sell him on for a reasonable fee. Maybe a release cause of say 30/35m.  Obviously Iím sitting on the fence somewhat here but I guess until the new manager is found we just donít know what the direction the team is going to be taken.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 24, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
i'm pretty sure he will.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 24, 2017, 08:32:40 PM
London bound.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 24, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Roberto told him he would an England great in the future, so we can't afford to let him slip away.

Should we re sign tom cleverley?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2017, 08:46:45 PM
Roberto told him he would an England great in the future, so we can't afford to let him slip away.

Luckily we've still got the best one on one defender at the club on the books. Shame he's at Sunderland like.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TheTone on October 24, 2017, 08:55:51 PM
a cuppa and a chat with Unsie and it'll be sorted, will send some Barrys Teabags over, don't need any of that Tetley shite
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 08:57:44 PM
Blimey do Sunderland know that? They should play him as they are heading into Division 3. I think Oveido has survived out of the EFC contingent, oh and Rodwell is playing. What the hell happened to him since he left us? 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 24, 2017, 09:03:45 PM
Instead of him going to Pochettino, maybe Pochettino can come here?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Robioto on October 24, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
I think the damage is already done, he'll still go.

I really hope not though.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 24, 2017, 09:22:27 PM
A bit of a turmoil in the last few weeks but let's not forget Ross has never fulfilled his potential , never other than a spark here and one there .Will he ever get there ? At his age the chances are getting slimmer .His only hope is that he get's his act together . For me at this moment I wouldn't blink if he went ,he needs to prove himself worthy of all the adulation on here .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 09:26:42 PM
A bit of a turmoil in the last few weeks but let's not forget Ross has never fulfilled his potential , never other than a spark here and one there .Will he ever get there ? At his age the chances are getting slimmer .His only hope is that he get's his act together . For me at this moment I wouldn't blink if he went ,he needs to prove himself worthy of all the adulation on here .



He should be fit soon. He'll have until January to show us if he's improved at all. He's better than some we've got when he's not playing so well though.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 24, 2017, 09:29:57 PM


He should be fit soon. He'll have until January to show us if he's improved at all. He's better than some we've got when he's not playing so well though.
But that isn't what we want is it really ,we don't just want better we want good enough to win something .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 24, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
He's be stupid not to really. The midfield is poor enough for him to break in to.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Gash on October 24, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
I think he'll stay now. Depends how many bridges he burned or whether it was just Koeman he fell out with? It would be a bit ironic if he got his wish of Koeman leaving and the club still didn't go back with a contract offer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
But that isn't what we want is it really ,we don't just want better we want good enough to win something .



If he's playing at his peak, he'll deserve a place in a trophy winning team. I'd bet my house on it if I didn't live in a Flat.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on October 24, 2017, 09:41:53 PM
my recall of the situation was Ross didn't want a new contract....a situation not solely brought on by koeman..his decision was obviously made prior to the end of the season....

the situation was subsequently exacerbated by Koeman and his attitude towards him...ie; sign or you'll be sold attitude....

for me what was said was irrelevant as ross had already made his mind up to leave...you could argue that keomans "treatment" of ross by leaving him out substituting him etc, brought on the frame of mind by ross of wanting to leave....if that's the case why would ross expect not to be left out or taken off..what makes him so special for this not to happen...and does he expect this not to happen if he goes to another club..? and if it does will he want to leave them..why would koeman leaving change that attitude?

hope he stays though
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on October 24, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
my recall of the situation was Ross didn't want a new contract....a situation not solely brought on by koeman..his decision was obviously made prior to the end of the season....

the situation was subsequently exacerbated by Koeman and his attitude towards him...ie; sign or you'll be sold attitude....

for me what was said was irrelevant as ross had already made his mind up to leave...you could argue that keomans "treatment" of ross by leaving him out substituting him etc, brought on the frame of mind by ross of wanting to leave....if that's the case why would ross expect not to be left out or taken off..what makes him so special for this not to happen...and does he expect this not to happen if he goes to another club..? and if it does will he want to leave them..why would koeman leaving change that attitude?

hope he stays though

Just similar to what I thought really, expect the young Spurs players were in his ear on the England trips last year. Think people were making excuses for him because he's a blue, truth probably is he just wants to better himself, you know champions league and such.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 24, 2017, 09:48:14 PM
He's be stupid not to really. The midfield is poor enough for him to break in to.

Come in Number 10 your time is up.........
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on October 24, 2017, 10:06:09 PM
Get him to sign then sell him in January .😅😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 24, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
I think he will wait and see, which is only sensible.  I owe him an apology for siding with Koeman over the summer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2017, 10:21:42 PM
A bit of a turmoil in the last few weeks but let's not forget Ross has never fulfilled his potential , never other than a spark here and one there .Will he ever get there ? At his age the chances are getting slimmer .His only hope is that he get's his act together . For me at this moment I wouldn't blink if he went ,he needs to prove himself worthy of all the adulation on here .

I was one of his harshest critics but looking at what we've bought to replace him I think we should be making overtures for him to re-sign.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on October 24, 2017, 10:22:53 PM
He'll stay, how's he not going to be convinced?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 10:45:30 PM
When his dream of getting on the Spurs bench turns to shit, he might sign.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 24, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
All i know for sure is none of us know. I think there's more chance now but depends why and with whom he fell out.
Spurs might cash in on Delli so he'd replace him??? Who knows.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
As you say none of us know. I have binned my crystal ball for fear of what I might see in it.  Nobody has dropped a hint when Barkley will be fit again have they? Surely it must be before Coleman and Bolassie. If not it must have been a hell of a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 24, 2017, 11:06:44 PM
Ross wanting to leave had nothing to do with Koeman. Just an easy narrative to blame it on Koeman as the bad guy. Truth is Ross just doesnít want to be here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 11:13:43 PM
Maybe, or maybe Ross is a delicate flower and Koeman was too nasty for him. Unsie will butter him up with a regular first team place which he won't get anywhere else worth going to.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: youngysenior on October 24, 2017, 11:15:54 PM
Ross wanting to leave had nothing to do with Koeman. Just an easy narrative to blame it on Koeman as the bad guy. Truth is Ross just doesn't want to be here.
How do you know that?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 11:17:42 PM
We are all guessing to pass the time away.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 24, 2017, 11:20:29 PM
We are all talking shite and making stuff up to pass the time away.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on October 24, 2017, 11:31:58 PM

That's what the forums are best for 😅😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 11:35:22 PM
Yeahh!! If Koeman had joined us he might have done better.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2017, 12:03:29 AM
signs a new deal on December 31st

scores a screamer in the next game and runs and jumps into Rhino's arms to celebrate
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 25, 2017, 12:06:25 AM
IF he stays i hope everyone gets behind the lad, he has time to put Martinez and Koeman and injuries behind him and be very very good, has done nowt wrong for me.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on October 25, 2017, 12:25:27 AM
It's quite amazing how quickly it might have turned from shit to gold. But after year of criticisms, benching and attacks, a shout of 'come home' was probably as that was needed.

It wasn't the club, as witnessed by Koeman's threat to sell him. It was appreciation and respect of manager, he's got that now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2017, 12:37:35 AM
How do you know that?
Because he rejected the contract months before Koeman arrived.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: youngysenior on October 25, 2017, 12:39:05 AM
Because he rejected the contract months before Koeman arrived.
Oh, ok.👍👍
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 25, 2017, 01:08:52 AM
Is Barkley match fit these days?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: smellybum on October 25, 2017, 01:14:55 AM
One thing that might be in the lads head is the idiotic rant from our owner on the deadline day to Jim White. That might add an extra £10000 a week to his asking price to forgive him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 25, 2017, 01:17:13 AM
Is Barkley match fit these days?
Still on the bike so no, nowhere near
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on October 25, 2017, 01:23:20 AM
I think Martinez and Koeman adopted the fellatio technique to keep Lukaku from the door, while simultaneously expecting Ross to produce something out of his arse.

I mean Cuco, Stek, Schneiderlin might be sad to begin with, but I think even he's more loyal players will quickly get on board. Every player has a fresh opportunity to impress and I don't see many ignoring that, I think Unsworth said 5 minutes was what it took.

The deadwood was the manager and he's gone.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2017, 02:03:46 AM
Ross's problem was Koeman I'm sure of it. I fully expect him to sign.

Hope so anyway....he's better than the other 3 No.10's we signed. And I love him!!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2017, 02:46:24 AM
I'm struggling to be that arsed tbh.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on October 25, 2017, 04:00:55 AM
I'm struggling to be that arsed tbh.





Being miserable is a struggle. I loved the idea of Koeman coming here, I love the fact that he's gone. Cheer up.  I am. :woohoo:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 25, 2017, 04:03:35 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/24/11/45A12BF000000578-5011743-Everton_midfielder_Ross_Barkley_was_filmed_on_an_exercise_bike_b-a-26_1508841740887.jpg)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 25, 2017, 04:09:09 AM
I think Martinez and Koeman adopted the fellatio technique to keep Lukaku from the door, while simultaneously expecting Ross to produce something out of his arse.

Barkley was one of Martinez favourites
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 25, 2017, 04:20:24 AM
Think he said Ross would be England's greatest player.

I hope he stays but I'm not deluding myself that he's the answer to much. At least on the last few years form.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on October 25, 2017, 05:07:44 AM
Think he said Ross would be England's greatest player.

I hope he stays but I'm not deluding myself that he's the answer to much. At least on the last few years form.

I personally have accepted Ross Barkley as our lord and saviour and urge you too also.

With his open chance creations he wakes us from our slumber, with his powerful running from deep he moves us closer to the promised land, and with his long distance strikes he punishes those who would trespass against us.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Major Clanger on October 25, 2017, 05:12:39 AM
Barkley was one of Martinez favourites

Aye, but that didn't necessarily help either. He went too far over the top.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jamokachi on October 25, 2017, 06:14:15 AM
Loved the way Unsi spoke about him in the presser.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on October 25, 2017, 06:28:37 AM
Loved the way Unsi spoke about him in the presser.

I think he'll stay if Unsworth gets the job.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jamokachi on October 25, 2017, 06:39:49 AM
I think he'll stay if Unsworth gets the job.

I hope so.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 25, 2017, 11:39:15 AM
Aye, but that didn't necessarily help either. He went too far over the top.

Fully agree
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on October 25, 2017, 12:26:02 PM
A £10 million signing on fee with Spurs will be tempting though.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 25, 2017, 01:33:06 PM
Are we forgetting that Moshiri threw him under the bus in Aug/Sept?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on October 27, 2017, 08:26:59 PM
Read the title of this thread and laughed to meself...

Just picturing in me head a knock on Ross's front door and he opens it to Rhino and Big Dunc standing there dressed as bouncers saying...

"Do you wanna pen?".........
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on October 27, 2017, 09:10:11 PM
Reading Unsworth comments about him being 3 to 4 weeks away I would be annoyed if he played him (if still in charge) if he hasnt committed by then. Personally I think hes gone and I dont want us to invest anymore time in him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 27, 2017, 09:44:45 PM
Are we forgetting that Moshiri threw him under the bus in Aug/Sept?

An earnest apology can set things right.  It's something that grown men should do much more often.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 27, 2017, 10:27:59 PM
How do you know that?
A few clues
1/ would not sign a new 100,000 a week contract
2/ went to Chelsea for a medical
3/ says he wanted to go to Spurs
and 4/ Most importantly has shown no sign since Koeman went that he feels any different
I am quite happy he is on his bike!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 27, 2017, 10:39:21 PM
A few clues
1/ would not sign a new 100,000 a week contract
2/ went to Chelsea for a medical
3/ says he wanted to go to Spurs
and 4/ Most importantly has shown no sign since Koeman went that he feels any different
I am quite happy he is on his bike!

When did he say he wanted to go spurs?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on October 27, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
A few clues
1/ would not sign a new 100,000 a week contract
2/ went to Chelsea for a medical
3/ says he wanted to go to Spurs
and 4/ Most importantly has shown no sign since Koeman went that he feels any different
I am quite happy he is on his bike!

1-3 happened on Koeman's watch. Maybe it was a coincidence and he was just done.

However, let's face it from Day 1 pretty much he was Koeman's whipping boy and the one that was dropped and/or chewed out in the media. Koeman tried to get in Sigurdsson in pretty much every transfer window before this one so maybe he knew he was for the chop as soon as his replacement came in and started making plans.

Regarding 4, he's not said anything before or after in public so nothing has really changed there. Personally I don't mind that, I'd rather he dealt with the club directly than via Twitter.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on October 27, 2017, 10:44:10 PM
If he wants to have a better chance of winning trophies, improve as a player and forge an England career he'll go to Spurs.

No brainer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 27, 2017, 10:44:57 PM
Didn't Koeman give him the captain's armband for a couple of games?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on October 27, 2017, 11:08:20 PM
Didn't Koeman give him the captain's armband for a couple of games?

Yeah, I think he asked him to take it over to Leighton.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 27, 2017, 11:16:14 PM

1-3 happened on Koeman's watch. Maybe it was a coincidence and he was just done.

However, let's face it from Day 1 pretty much he was Koeman's whipping boy and the one that was dropped and/or chewed out in the media. Koeman tried to get in Sigurdsson in pretty much every transfer window before this one so maybe he knew he was for the chop as soon as his replacement came in and started making plans.

Regarding 4, he's not said anything before or after in public so nothing has really changed there. Personally I don't mind that, I'd rather he dealt with the club directly than via Twitter.
Well you would have if he would indeed have dealt with the club ! So personally I think he wants to go and in fact a lot has changed .He has allowed himself to be shown on the media smiling and made no -well at least as far as we know -and that is all we deal in here really isn't it -sign of any pen to paper . Which I unequivocally hope he doesn't unless it is to make a quick buck for the club ,ala Moyes!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 27, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
If he wants to have a better chance of winning trophies, improve as a player and forge an England career he'll go to Spurs.

No brainer.
I think you have hit the nail on the head ,all the squad players get a medal .If he wants to be a special player he should stay with his boyhood club and prove me wrong .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 27, 2017, 11:22:19 PM
Couldn't have been Leighton, he didn't play against Yeovil
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on October 27, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
I think you have hit the nail on the head ,all the squad players get a medal .If he wants to be a special player he should stay with his boyhood club and prove me wrong .

So if he stays he's a special player but if he goes to Spurs he's suddenly not that good anymore and only a squad player. Right, okay.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: toffee_scot on October 27, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
We'll see what happens, at the moment though he has to compete with about 3-4 other players in his position. Unsworth could be influential but that will depend on whether he gets the job or not.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Heisenberg on October 28, 2017, 05:41:31 AM
So if he stays he's a special player but if he goes to Spurs he's suddenly not that good anymore and only a squad player. Right, okay.

I think Its more the fact that the players spurs have are better, which will make him a squad player
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on October 28, 2017, 10:42:07 AM
So if he stays he's a special player but if he goes to Spurs he's suddenly not that good anymore and only a squad player. Right, okay.
Did you read the end of my post .I don't think he will ever be that player ,here or wherever
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on October 28, 2017, 03:20:30 PM
I think you have hit the nail on the head ,all the squad players get a medal .If he wants to be a special player he should stay with his boyhood club and prove me wrong .
According to Stubbs be turned down Chelsea as he was worried about the lack of game time, I fail to see how different that'll be at spurs? He's not good enough for that level at the moment and he should realise that
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 28, 2017, 03:47:07 PM
He's banking that he will be good enough for Spurs
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 29, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
Reading Unsworth comments about him being 3 to 4 weeks away I would be annoyed if he played him (if still in charge) if he hasnt committed by then. Personally I think hes gone and I dont want us to invest anymore time in him

Yeah - I'd hate it if he helped us win some football matches while he's still here.

Would much rather he got paid his obscene Premiership footballer's wages just to fuck about at Finch Farm having massages and jacuzzis and shit.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on October 29, 2017, 01:47:31 AM
Not really arsed tbh. .I think of he was gonna sign hed have done it the day Koeman left to prove a point ...won't be anywhere near a starter anywhere above us unless he can play like he did for twenty mins against Newcastle about two years ago .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 29, 2017, 02:11:04 AM
Newcastle's potential new owners are picturing him as a marquee signing....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on October 29, 2017, 02:16:31 AM
Yeah - I'd hate it if he helped us win some football matches while he's still here.

Would much rather he got paid his obscene Premiership footballer's wages just to fuck about at Finch Farm having massages and jacuzzis and shit.
If he's 3 to 4 weeks away that brings us to the beginning of December almost. It'd take a good 6 games to get up to match speed by which time he'd be ready to sign for spurs or anyone else. I'd rather focus on players that want to be here, not get others match fit so they're ready to go when they sign for another club. I don't understand why you'd differ? Shall we bring him back, build the team around him then be back to square one in January but with a disillusioned Sigurdson or another player that does want to be here?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on October 29, 2017, 02:25:34 AM
I think you have to expect some resistance, in a sort of "actually Ross, we've moved on and everything is great now" kind of way. and a "you never called as much as I wanted anyway".

Except we've been getting bummed by everyone who comes over and the weaknesses in the team are Ross' strengths. Even if we are hoping to get better players long term, in the short term, he's got what we need. And longer term, he will still be very useful, even when we have better options.

Barkley's position was always love Everton, hate Koeman. Koeman was threatening to sell him, imagine him saying that to Lukaku as a means to get him to stay.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 29, 2017, 02:42:09 AM
Barkley's position was always love Everton, hate Koeman.

Pure speculation based on absolutely fuck all.

The talks actually began when Martinez was still manager.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/05/roberto-martinez-ross-barkley-everton-contract
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on October 29, 2017, 02:46:45 AM


Barkley's position was always love Everton, hate Koeman. Koeman was threatening to sell him, imagine him saying that to Lukaku as a means to get him to stay.

He didn't really threaten him. He said if Barkley didn't sign the contract, which koeman actually said he wanted him to, then he'd be forced to sell him and not let him just walk for nothing the next season which would have made all of us even more livid.

I really don't get where this myth of koeman not liking Ross and treating him terribly has come from. Koeman had always said Ross was a good player, and always said he wanted Ross to stay.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: hamshank33 on October 29, 2017, 03:28:52 AM
Some players need the carrot,  Ross is one of them.  Koeman had shit man management skills. That's not speculation. It was and is plain to see.all he had was the stick or the door.  Oumar is better at dealing with that shit than Ross. And further more if he didn't have three players on him at all times  last season whilst still always showing for the ball and charging forward only for big Rom to point somewhere  but not run anywhere to make space he would have been much more affective.  Which was quite alot anyway. He would  have more options  more people showing for the ball and less people on him as they would have more people to cover.he wouldn't  be the only one moving forward in this team,so more affective.  But there are no shortage  of winging fucks who would still get on his case. "fucking Ross always trying  to take people on and losing the ball" or "fucking crabs always playing  the ball sideways and backward" make your mind up.  Anyway  I would love him to stay maybe we can improve in a couple of years and people can start sucking our cocks instead of Spurs. They have built a good team over the last five years but FFS get a grip little we were competing with villa for 5th for quite a few years and then we'll be competing with Tottenham now they have kicked on but lets not get to f****** carried away with ourselves or do we all work for the London media as well. Going to emulate Ari and sign off with BIG LOVE ,hamshank😀
Title: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 11, 2017, 03:37:47 AM
Just watching England and Loftus-Cheek has a bit of the Ross Barkleys about him.

Strong, balanced, both footed, good technique, likely to get dropped in town for shaggin another lad's bird.. etc etc

All the key attributes.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on November 11, 2017, 03:55:47 AM
Just watching England and Loftus-Cheek has a bit of the Ross Barkleys about him.

Strong, balanced, both footed, good technique, likely to get dropped in town for shaggin another lad's bird.. etc etc

All the key attributes.

I was hoping in the summer we might ask for him in part-exchange if Lukaku went to Chelsea. We lack any real physical presence in the middle of the park and he looks like he might turn into a player.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2017, 04:24:04 AM
Just watching England and Loftus-Cheek has a bit of the Ross Barkleys about him.

Strong, balanced, both footed, good technique, likely to get dropped in town for shaggin another lad's bird.. etc etc

All the key attributes.

Yeah i agree. Quite like him.

Barkley light years above him, like.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 11, 2017, 05:36:38 AM
Yeah i agree. Quite like him.

Barkley light years above him, like.

I wouldn't say so... Barkley is easily the better dribbler yeah, but Loftus-Cheek looks like he has that awareness that Ross seems to lack.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 11, 2017, 05:47:23 AM
People talk as if Barkley has never made an assist in his life.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 11, 2017, 05:52:21 AM
People talk as if Barkley has never made an assist in his life.

No I rate Barkley. Just wouldn't say he was "light years" ahead.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Nick on November 11, 2017, 06:46:28 AM
Hope he stays.  An outstanding talent.

That said, I would fully understand his decision to leave.  I think Koeman shat on him, plus I don't buy into all this talk of disloyalty when players move on...it's their job ffs.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 11, 2017, 06:54:05 AM
No I rate Barkley. Just wouldn't say he was "light years" ahead.

Yeah man thatís cool, Iíve got no issue with your post. More of a grumble built up over time than a swipe at yours. I didnít quote the post for that reason.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 05:48:17 PM
answer is obvious yes!

(please dont let me down Ross!)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on November 11, 2017, 06:27:26 PM
If anything, his hand just got even stronger given the players who are on well over 100k a week doing absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on November 11, 2017, 07:10:19 PM
Will he won't he what? Play for us again? I hope so. If we are paying him a salary and he is declared fit he must put an Everton shirt on again. By now we should have been given a clear idea when he will be available again. Maybe they have said so but I didn't see it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on November 11, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
Hope he stays.  An outstanding talent.

That said, I would fully understand his decision to leave.  I think Koeman shat on him, plus I don't buy into all this talk of disloyalty when players move on...it's their job ffs.

Agree with the first line. Koeman has been sacked and is well gone now, so that is no longer a reason, disloyalty probably right, being an Evertonian doesn't mean much to players now, probably the same for most other home grown players as well, well except for the trophy winning teams player's anyway.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on November 11, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on November 12, 2017, 12:54:42 AM
Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.

Err No.  Perfectly logical reasons for it but carry on
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on November 12, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
Imho if the club thought it was about money ,Ross would've signed by now and they would both be happy ...if it was 'just' about the money .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Gash on November 12, 2017, 01:18:46 AM
Imho if the club thought it was about money ,Ross would've signed by now and they would both be happy ...if it was 'just' about the money .

Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on November 12, 2017, 01:20:18 AM
Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.

Is your second sentence based on anything other than pure speculation ? Pretty dammning if it is.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on November 12, 2017, 01:29:06 AM
Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.

Do mean the fact he hasn't signed ... since Koeman left?

He's probably waiting to make sure we don't appoint Sam fucking Allardyce.

I don't think he'll sign like, he's obviously heading for Spurs.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on November 12, 2017, 01:31:27 AM
Do mean the fact he hasn't signed ... since Koeman left?

He's probably waiting to make sure we don't appoint Sam fucking Allardyce.

I don't think he'll sign like, he's obviously heading for Spurs.
My thoughts exactly ...nowt to do with Koeman just Ross was/is unhappy .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on November 12, 2017, 01:53:01 AM
Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.

Yup. Everything we've read, seen and heard would lead us to this conclusion. A chance to win trophies and make more money at the same Time.

But yet people are still going on about this myth that he hated koeman and vice versa.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on November 12, 2017, 02:50:42 AM
My thoughts exactly ...nowt to do with Koeman just Ross was/is unhappy .
But why was he unhappy?

I get that talks started before Martinez left but in reality the players would have known he was on his way out. With more than 2 years left on a contract no footballer is likely to accept the first offer and the club are not going to be overly desperate to tie him down urgently. 
I have been told that Ross and a couple of players were comparing koeman to nazis. So obviously the relationship was strained and koeman being the man he is probably handled it as badly as Ross.
The other issue was that koeman was happy to take or leave Ross. Hence an offer that was good but not what he wanted. The manager may have been saying all the right things in pressers etc but with a lowball (in Ross eyes) offer he would have known what he was doing. As has been said I think depending on the new boss the clubs position might be revised to something more acceptable to Ross.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on November 12, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
But why was he unhappy?

I get that talks started before Martinez left but in reality the players would have known he was on his way out. With more than 2 years left on a contract no footballer is likely to accept the first offer and the club are not going to be overly desperate to tie him down urgently. 
I have been told that Ross and a couple of players were comparing koeman to nazis. So obviously the relationship was strained and koeman being the man he is probably handled it as badly as Ross.
The other issue was that koeman was happy to take or leave Ross. Hence an offer that was good but not what he wanted. The manager may have been saying all the right things in pressers etc but with a lowball (in Ross eyes) offer he would have known what he was doing. As has been said I think depending on the new boss the clubs position might be revised to something more acceptable to Ross.
Still think if he was arsed about signing he would've done after Koeman was sacked .
Although I make no bones about not rating him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 12, 2017, 08:09:47 PM
What if he hates the new manager, too?  One would expect him to at least wait for the permanent appointment.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on November 12, 2017, 08:35:20 PM
What if he hates the new manager, too?  One would expect him to at least wait for the permanent appointment.
Then a splintered arse on the spurs bench awaits 😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on November 12, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
It is ludicrous to think that Barkley would get in any of the current top 4 or 5 teams, so unless he regards sitting on their bench as career progression it is hard to see what he can gain by leaving, except maybe a signing on fee. He might even be thinking longer term by hoping he could eventually improve to the required level to make their first team and earn medals which he will probably never get at Everton.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on November 12, 2017, 09:53:31 PM
It is ludicrous to think that Barkley would get in any of the current top 4 or 5 teams, so unless he regards sitting on their bench as career progression it is hard to see what he can gain by leaving, except maybe a signing on fee. He might even be thinking longer term by hoping he could eventually improve to the required level to make their first team and earn medals which he will probably never get at Everton.




I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to remember that Ross Barkley has been brought through his last four-five years or so; by two managers who failed dismally. I think Ross Barkley's development under two managers who have failed and both been sacked, could just possibly have a bearing on his development and form. I don't think you can lump Barkley with the complete responsibility of him being unhappy atm with his playing status.


Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on November 12, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
Err No.  Perfectly logical reasons for it but carry on

Of course there are logical reasons for it but the situation is what it is.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on November 12, 2017, 10:09:13 PM
If Sissoko can find a way into the Spurs side then so can Barkley.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Toddacelli on November 14, 2017, 10:31:15 PM
Had a dream the other night that Barkley joined Man City.

He was awesome in the middle with that Fernandinho and they beat Newcastle 6-0.

I really want him to be a part of our revitalised form post-Christmas and sign a 2-year with a buy-out clause over a certain amount. i.e. - will will get cash money for him, but we won't stand in his way if he really wants to go.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 15, 2017, 12:55:56 AM
Ross will either leave in Jan for peanuts or in the summer for free. Theyíre the only 2 options. Quite likely heíll not play for the club again.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on November 15, 2017, 01:54:51 AM
Ross will either leave in Jan for peanuts or in the summer for free. They're the only 2 options. Quite likely he'll not play for the club again.
Yep. Tbh I don't really care what he does, but it'd be refreshing for him to sign a pre contract with someone abroad. He isn't getting a game anywhere else better than us in England but he could really make a name for himself at a champions league team in Spain or Italy, similar to what Nzonzi did. English players tend not to think outside the box and want the easy life, which I think is to the detriment of the national team
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on November 15, 2017, 02:14:39 AM
...give a fuck ...., in the words of Gordon Strachan," I've  far more important things to think about, there's a joghurt in my fridge that expires tomorrow"
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on November 15, 2017, 05:44:12 AM
It is ludicrous to think that Barkley would get in any of the current top 4 or 5 teams, so unless he regards sitting on their bench as career progression it is hard to see what he can gain by leaving, except maybe a signing on fee. He might even be thinking longer term by hoping he could eventually improve to the required level to make their first team and earn medals which he will probably never get at Everton.

Working with a coach like Pochettino who might help him progress like the other players under his guidance? That's just for starters.

After working under Koeman and Martinez (polar opposites of each other in a way, both ultimately unsuccessful) I could see the temptation.

Sissoko is even getting CL game time.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on November 15, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
Working with a coach like Pochettino who might help him progress like the other players under his guidance? That's just for starters.

After working under Koeman and Martinez (polar opposites of each other in a way, both ultimately unsuccessful) I could see the temptation.

Sissoko is even getting CL game time.

I struggle with this constant 'if Sissoko can do it anyone can' mentality, the bloke has 50+ caps for France, and he hasnt just accumulated these whilst working under 'God', aka Pochettino. Hes played at every level for his national team, he is a lot better than people give him credit for and he'd have walked straight into our team back then, and now. Barkley struggles to get into one of the worst England squads in decades and has been overlooked by more than 1 manager.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 15, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
Fair play to Ross, him and his advisors saw straight through the takeover and he obviously didnít believe in Ďthe projectí enough to sign up to it. Heís going in one direction while we go in the other. Only got ourselves to blame.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on November 15, 2017, 05:45:24 PM
Fair play to Ross, him and his advisors saw straight through the takeover and he obviously didn’t believe in ‘the project’ enough to sign up to it. He’s going in one direction while we go in the other. Only got ourselves to blame.

Not really. We finished 7th and were in with a shout of top 4 until about 6 weeks to go of the season, with a season in Europe to come and a new stadium planned. There was nothing to 'see through' as everything looked positive in the summer. 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on November 15, 2017, 06:05:38 PM
Fair play to Ross, him and his advisors saw straight through the takeover and he obviously didn’t believe in ‘the project’ enough to sign up to it. He’s going in one direction while we go in the other. Only got ourselves to blame.

I highly doubt he's seen through Everton's plans. He didn't like Koeman, he doesn't like getting boo'd by fans for every little thing and he wants more money. His star hasn't went super nova and it's not like teams are falling over themselves to sign him. Two teams see him as a useful addition at a knock down rate. He'll ride the bench at Chelsea, or work with a world class manager who's going to try and turn him into Dembele's backup/ successor.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on November 15, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
I struggle with this constant 'if Sissoko can do it anyone can' mentality, the bloke has 50+ caps for France, and he hasnt just accumulated these whilst working under 'God', aka Pochettino. Hes played at every level for his national team, he is a lot better than people give him credit for and he'd have walked straight into our team back then, and now. Barkley struggles to get into one of the worst England squads in decades and has been overlooked by more than 1 manager.

Sissoko is just hit and miss, some would say like Barkley was the only correlation.

Bigger point is you could see the attraction of working under Pochettino at the moment, as well as the opportunity to be at a club who are playing CL football.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 15, 2017, 08:29:20 PM
Fair play to Ross, him and his advisors saw straight through the takeover and he obviously didnít believe in Ďthe projectí enough to sign up to it. Heís going in one direction while we go in the other. Only got ourselves to blame.

Let me put this delicately. You don't half talk some negative, miserablist shite. Where on earth are you getting this drivel from?

Regardless of our ups and downs, since Moshiri arrived we are in a significantly better position as a club than we were previously.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on November 16, 2017, 04:39:24 AM
Fair play to Ross, him and his advisors saw straight through the takeover and he obviously didn't believe in "the project' enough to sign up to it. He's going in one direction while we go in the other. Only got ourselves to blame.
Its a shame his advisors never said don't tap an angry piss head on the face in a darkened night club 😅😅.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 03, 2017, 05:06:54 AM
I donít think heís injured, I think thereís been a fall out and heís said he wonít play again.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on December 03, 2017, 05:10:10 AM
I don't think he's injured, I think there's been a fall out and he's said he won't play again.

Doubt it. He wouldn't get a wage would he?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 03, 2017, 05:12:43 AM
Iíve been told by a friend of a friend (of his) that heís deffo off in January, to Spurs.


EDIT: Iím not one for posting rumours or owt, but this lad is a good friend of Rossís, told him straight, heís going.

Always wondered why it was taking him so long to recover from a hamstring injury, maybe this is why. Quite gutted tbh.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 03, 2017, 06:54:09 AM
The talk of Spurs has rumbled on for about 18 months now, there must be something in it.

Reading between the lines - the Chelsea move on deadline day was something he wasnít remotely interested in so itís not like he just wanted any old move to any old club with better prospects. Heís obviously got a specific destination in mind. There are rumours that the Chelsea bid came out of the blue to Spurs and we (obviously to get a decent fee) tried to rail-road him into it. Levy spoke to Ross on his way to the medical and said they would be back in jan/summer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bogie on December 03, 2017, 07:42:55 AM
he might want to rethink going to spurs if they don't get top 4 this year there will a few on the way out for sure
and there wage cap looks set in stone with the new ground beginning to be a bit of a sink hole
Title: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 03, 2017, 08:44:32 AM
Can't stand the lad anymore. Just leave, we'll be fine, we've got Davy Klaassen. *Cries*
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on December 03, 2017, 10:34:44 AM
he might want to rethink going to spurs if they don't get top 4 this year there will a few on the way out for sure
and there wage cap looks set in stone with the new ground beginning to be a bit of a sink hole

If Spurs shit the bed this season, and fail to win anything next season there could be a big exit of players, and even pochettino.

Chelsea would actually be the better spot for him as fabregas is there only true AM and he's 31 in May.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Thomas on December 03, 2017, 11:27:40 AM
I can't see him staying. At all. Signing on fee he would recieve would be too much for him to miss out on.

I still cant understand why Spurs over Chelsea, particularly as Spurs have a more congested midfield.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Goaljira on December 03, 2017, 01:44:53 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11154484/sam-allardyce-suggests-deal-may-already-be-done-for-ross-barkley-to-leave-everton
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 03, 2017, 02:13:19 PM
He might be keeping fit for the move? I'll be sad to see him go but unless Spurs sell one of their mid's he might struggle for game time.. maybe Eriksons off to Barca?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 03, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
Been out an awful long time with this injury, would be a bit weird if he never played for us throughout December and is fit right away for either Spurs / Chelsea if / when he signs for them.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 03, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
He might be keeping fit for the move? I'll be sad to see him go but unless Spurs sell one of their mid's he might struggle for game time.. maybe Eriksons off to Barca?
Thatís not a bad theory actually. They coordinate it so Barkley comes in as a direct replacement for Ericsson. Sell Ericsson for £80m, get Barkley for £15m. Tidy. Bit of am assumption that Poch can get Barkley up to Ericssonís level though.

Itís all a bit odd. It canít be about money as our contract proposal was as good as anything Spurs can offer. And he couldíve doubled his wages 18 months ago if heíd actually signed that contact - think how much money heís missed out on by running down his contact. If he was off to City for £300k a week it wouldíve been worth it but very much doubt thatís the case.

If it was only about winning medals and playing CL, heíd have just joined Chelsea.

He might really want to play for Poch but would you put your career on hold for 18 months just to work under a manager that could leave at any time?

There might be a left-field move from someone like Barca. Now heís pretty much available on a pre-contact deal - it would be a pretty risk free move for them. If it didnít work out for him, they could just sell him on. Deulofeu is getting game time so donít see why Ross couldnít get minutes over there.

Only thing Iím certain of, and have been all along, it that heís off.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 03, 2017, 05:36:29 PM
Still gutted.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 03, 2017, 05:42:49 PM
If Sam can't change his mind one his one to one player talks ...then bye Ross ...enjoy spurs bench and recovery room ...careful nose tapping piss heads in clubs down south though .😅.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 03, 2017, 05:59:56 PM
I don't think he's even been spotted siting in the stands all these months, clearly doesn't give a shit about us, good riddance.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: sam of the south on December 03, 2017, 06:11:34 PM
It was obvious he was waiting for Spurs in the summer.

Fuck Spurs and fuck him then.

I love him, though, and would be made up if he stayed, but Spurs knew he wanted to go there, told him to sit tight and move on a free, and he clearly feels no remorse in doing so.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: velimski on December 03, 2017, 06:23:58 PM
Been so long since he played it feels like he's actually left already.

Should help soften the blow when he inevitably does leave.

Not too keen on seeing him play for anyone else mind.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: sam of the south on December 03, 2017, 06:29:14 PM
Been so long since he played it feels like he's actually left already.

Should help soften the blow when he inevitably does leave.

Not too keen on seeing him play for anyone else mind.

Yeah, it's gonna hurt that one, particularly at that media darling club with their irritating fans who are often on a par arrogance-wise with shite and United supporters.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 03, 2017, 07:12:11 PM
Think Allerdyce has put his feelers out so to speak, saying that the deal for him to go could be already done. Now if it's not, Barkley or his agent should refute that suggestion right away, if it's true, well him and his agent can just keep quiet....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 03, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
Barkley joins Spurs, Pochettino goes to PSG with Alderweireld, Erikksen to Barca, Kane to Real and Spurs drop to a mid table club that won't pay wages to get the top players in

Everton get their shit together and invest and replace Spurs in the top 6

Karma
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 03, 2017, 07:43:56 PM
Moving to Spurs is not necessarily a slam dunk it was even 6 months ago. No certainty theyíll make the CL this year, Dele Alli trying to get his super agent deal last I heard (so likely angling for a move down the line), plus others like Alderweireld likely going in the summer. Who knows about Pochettino either.

Spurs are on a bit of a knife edge, they might win something and keep their upward trajectory. On the other side I could see a mini-implosion where they lose a bunch of players and have a few (prime Barkley years) in the wilderness.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on December 03, 2017, 07:52:51 PM
I've said it before on here but I don't think he has the mentality to be a truly top player. He's obviously a confidence player but he needs to develop an inner steel to deal with things when they are going wrong. Will be sad to see him go but not devastated
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on December 03, 2017, 09:25:45 PM
Think itís clear after Big Sams comments to the Sky interviewer yesterday that Barkley is gone in Jan.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TheRam on December 03, 2017, 10:23:42 PM
He's a rat
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 03, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
Can't wait for an end to this.

Shittest contract saga of all time.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 03, 2017, 10:45:43 PM
He must have the most complicated groin in medical history.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 03, 2017, 10:48:20 PM
I'll deffo boo him on his return to Goodison. Not because I'm a cunt, but because he's probably one of the only players it will actually work on.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: cantoffee on December 03, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
Pretty sad that we seem to have produced the best talent of the last two generations in England and both will leave without reaching their potential.

I still hope he stays but certainly looks like he's gone.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 03, 2017, 11:28:46 PM
Pretty sad that we seem to have produced the best talent of the last two generations in England and both will leave without reaching their potential.

And who are they?

If you're talking about Barkley, he's nowhere fucking near the best talent of the last 2 generations.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: chang on December 03, 2017, 11:54:33 PM
Would he not of signed weeks ago if it were happening? Might as well sit around on your arse "injured" earning £100k rather than £30k
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MrWhite on December 04, 2017, 06:22:45 AM
This is like a game of chinese whispers. Barkley started it off by saying.. absolutely nothing. By the end of the line itís a 200 page PDF detailing his every thought and subsequent judgement. All based on no actual facts whatsoever?

Who is Allerdyce btw? :headbang:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ravardo on December 04, 2017, 06:47:58 AM
I don't think he's even been spotted siting in the stands all these months, clearly doesn't give a shit about us, good riddance.

Mate of mines just come back from dubai before the weekend and said he see him out there partying with mark davies from bolton
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 04, 2017, 06:56:13 AM
Thread title might as well be, "Ross Barkley -- Who is he?"

IIRC, Big Sam was the one who cut Ross from the England squad, so I can't image either party is much interested in keeping Ross around Everton.

Shame how it all went for Ross at Everton. A weird, damn shame.

Think Allerdyce has put his feelers out so to speak, saying that the deal for him to go could be already done. Now if it's not, Barkley or his agent should refute that suggestion right away, if it's true, well him and his agent can just keep quiet....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: kramer0 on December 04, 2017, 06:57:05 AM
Who is Allerdyce btw? :headbang:

Moshira hired him to be our new manager.

I don't think it'll be enough to keep Barclay, though.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: oztoffee on December 04, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
 Ross Barley will he or won't he?
That was the question we all asked as lads about the slutty blonde girl who lived up the street. Turned out that she did, and she was the vicar's daughter too!

But about Ross: who gives a shit now?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 04, 2017, 02:24:29 PM
Ross Barley will he or won't he?
That was the question we all asked as lads about the slutty blonde girl who lived up the street. Turned out that she did, and she was the vicar's daughter too!

But about Ross: who gives a shit now?


Possibly the weirdest post I've seen for a long time   :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on December 04, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
Hes off in January, nothing is gonna change his mind
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 04, 2017, 02:42:31 PM

Possibly the weirdest post I've seen for a long time   :)

"Will she won't she" gerrit?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 04, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
Is it still Koemanís fault?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 04, 2017, 03:11:32 PM
Barkley joins Spurs, Pochettino goes to PSG with Alderweireld, Erikksen to Barca, Kane to Real and Spurs drop to a mid table club that won't pay wages to get the top players in

Everton get their shit together and invest and replace Spurs in the top 6

Karma

Never gonna happen.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 04, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
Think Iím over it tbh just a shame we wonít get a very good return on him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 04, 2017, 04:38:44 PM
Mate of mines just come back from dubai before the weekend and said he see him out there partying with mark davies from bolton

Don't know if that's true or not but if you are picking up 30 grand a week for sitting on your arse it should be compulsory to attend every match even if just to keep in touch, he's recovering from a pulled hamstring (apparently?) not open heart surgery.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 04, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
Don't know if that's true or not but if you are picking up 30 grand a week for sitting on your arse it should be compulsory to attend every match even if just to keep in touch, he's recovering from a pulled hamstring (apparently?) not open heart surgery.
But the delicate little flower wouldn't dare show his face at Goodison for fear the bigger boys might boo him or call him names 😅😅
And at this point not even Jags would be a shoulder for him .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 04, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
Might just be a mutual agreement. Ross doesn't bust a gut to play and therefore get injured again and we get a pre-agreed fee for him in January. If the lad is genuinely injured and he's off then why would he or Everton try and rush back to fitness. Everton don't need him playing and he probably doesn't want to play. If there is £10m riding on it then it suits all parties to let it limp to it's natural conclusion. 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on December 04, 2017, 05:30:26 PM
Gutted really for the club, the fans and for Ross, not really sure where to point the finger as we don't know everything that has gone on (The Chelsea farce at the end of the transfer window was weird too), I could have really seen him back doing what Rooney has been doing the last couple of games if he had got his head straight, its going to hurt seeing him doing that for another team.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 04, 2017, 06:07:41 PM
Gutted really for the club, the fans and for Ross, not really sure where to point the finger as we don't know everything that has gone on (The Chelsea farce at the end of the transfer window was weird too), I could have really seen him back doing what Rooney has been doing the last couple of games if he had got his head straight, its going to hurt seeing him doing that for another team.
The difference is Rooney has shown what he is capable of over 10+ years. It will be difficult, almost impossible, to see Ross doing that for another team as he hasnt done it for us in 5 years for more than 1 or 2 games at a time.
Ross has unquestionable talent but a very questionable mentality, hes a luxury player we can do without, and hes far too erratic player for any decent teams to rely on, for that reason I dont think he'll go to that next stage.
Id rather keep him but I dont think its the end of the world.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 04, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
Last year him and Lukaku were integral to everything we did offensively and we've scored the same amount of goals as this time last year. I don't think we've missed him as much as people make out. We've gone to absolute pieces defensively and made silly, stupid errors at the back every game which has highlighted our lack of firepower more.
 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 04, 2017, 06:48:02 PM
Last year him and Lukaku were integral to everything we did offensively and we've scored the same amount of goals as this time last year. I don't think we've missed him as much as people make out. We've gone to absolute pieces defensively and made silly, stupid errors at the back every game which has highlighted our lack of firepower more.
 
Think that goal stat being bandied around is a bit pointless tbh
This time last year we were on a  bad run, we hadn't really played well and were disjointed, its not like we were flying
After christmas was when we clicked and the goals came, particularly at home
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 04, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
Think that goal stat being bandied around is a bit pointless tbh
This time last year we were on a  bad run, we hadn't really played well and were disjointed, its not like we were flying
After christmas was when we clicked and the goals came, particularly at home

We're not on a good run now, what has exacerbated it is the collapse in Europe.

We're missing Lukaku undoubtedly but with Rooney playing deeper offering a lot more to our play and hopefully a focal point up top from January there's no reason why offensively we can't improve like last year, especially with Sigurdsson this year and Bolasie to come back.

I just don't think Barkley is as big a miss as some make out.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 04, 2017, 07:31:21 PM
"Will she won't she" gerrit?

No I understood what he/she was saying - it was just that 'slutty blonde' seemed a bizarre place for his/her mind to go to in this situation. Weird.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on December 04, 2017, 07:58:31 PM
Don't suppose anyone but Barkley knows if he has any intention of signing a new contract. Something which he I am sure he will weigh in the balance is there are probably few of the 5 or 6  so-called "top" teams who would take him, other than as a bench warmer in competition with a load of very good players. A move to anywhere else might be seen as a backwards move. If Allardyce is right and he may not be properly match fit for remaining December fixtures, then someone else will be taking a gamble on him by signing him in January. I hope he stays, but maybe he wants to start afresh somewhere else.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on December 04, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
We're not on a good run now, what has exacerbated it is the collapse in Europe.

We're missing Lukaku undoubtedly but with Rooney playing deeper offering a lot more to our play and hopefully a focal point up top from January there's no reason why offensively we can't improve like last year, especially with Sigurdsson this year and Bolasie to come back.

I just don't think Barkley is as big a miss as some make out.


What I would say is that I think thereís been an over egging of what weíd have done if heíd been available.

Itís not as though weíve never played badly when heís been in the team and itís not as though heís impervious to crises of confidence.

I canít imagine he wouldnít have been equally affected by the negative atmosphere as anyone else.

It would have been better to have him as an option mind; and even better for someone to maybe finally get it all to click.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on December 04, 2017, 08:05:17 PM
sooner have him playing for us than against us..
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 04, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Sooner he's gone the better, he's been pissing us about long enough, bloody great distraction, the sooner he's gone we can close this thread and stop the endless  pointless will he/won't he debate.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 04, 2017, 09:30:30 PM
What I would say is that I think there’s been an over egging of what we’d have done if he’d been available.

It’s not as though we’ve never played badly when he’s been in the team and it’s not as though he’s impervious to crises of confidence.

I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have been equally affected by the negative atmosphere as anyone else.

It would have been better to have him as an option mind; and even better for someone to maybe finally get it all to click.

I agree. Although I think a lot of what is written about Ross is based on his potential and what he could deliver if it all came together in his head. Of course I'd rather he stayed than went and reached it with us like, goes without saying.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 04, 2017, 11:48:34 PM
would be nice to get a replacement who is an upgrade. Loving @Rodenplav64 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3475) Ďs Serri suggestion.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 05, 2017, 12:01:36 AM
would be nice to get a replacement who is an upgrade. Loving @Rodenplav64 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3475) "s Serri suggestion.
Come now, another no10 ffs surely not .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 05, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
I think Gylfi will score more and create more than Ross would have (even  if he had a full season behind him), so I'm not really bothered anyway.

He likely won't sing and will leave on a free.
Unless we do some kind of player plus cash deal for Danny Rose, but I doubt Rose will come.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on December 05, 2017, 12:33:58 AM
I'll deffo boo him on his return to Goodison. Not because I'm a cunt, but because he's probably one of the only players it will actually work on.

I remember it worked on Arteta when we bummed Arsenal 3-0.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 05, 2017, 12:40:10 AM
I remember it worked on Arteta when we bummed Arsenal 3-0.

I couldn't bring myself to do it to him. Gorgeous Bastard.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on December 05, 2017, 12:41:44 AM
I couldn't bring myself to do it to him. Gorgeous Bastard.

I didn't do it, and I was saddened that we was doing it.  If I ever see him I am going to tell him I still love him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on December 06, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
I think the answer is back to a firm no.

Will be interesting to see if he's sold in January or sits out entire season.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 07, 2017, 01:20:48 AM
Forgot about him to be honest. Be nice if he stays like.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 01:34:01 AM
He will go to spurs just as Kane leaves for Madrid ....Alderweild gets off for money with Rose Eriksson ,Dier fucks off to man u ...and Potch fucks of to PSG. 😅.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: sam of the south on December 07, 2017, 02:35:22 AM
He will go to spurs just as Kane leaves for Madrid ....Alderweild gets off for money with Rose Eriksson ,Dier fucks off to man u ...and Potch fucks of to PSG. 😅.

This scenario would please me greatly ☺️
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 07, 2017, 02:40:58 AM
When everyone was chuffed when he went back on Twitter, about Rooneys goal and lots of our fans were wishing Ross well and begging him to stay. Does anyone know if Barkley actually answered any of the fans tweets ? Or ignored them, that would go a long way in saying whether he's staying or going.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 07, 2017, 03:02:52 AM
He's obviously going. I'm amazed we are still debating it. If he had any intention of staying he'd at least still be negotiating. He's doing nothing because by doing nothing he can leave on a free. There's zero chance he'll be here next season
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 04:21:16 AM
How much would Barkley be worth in todayís market if he had a few years on his contract? Got to be £50m+?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue slug on December 07, 2017, 04:35:19 AM
Well klaasen is worth 24m then your right at 50m dude
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MrWhite on December 07, 2017, 05:00:02 AM
This scenario would please me greatly
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Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 07, 2017, 05:23:14 AM
He'll be back.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: sam of the south on December 07, 2017, 02:10:34 PM
He'll be back.

Gut feeling, blind optimism, or itk?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 07, 2017, 02:25:06 PM
He'll be back.

You mean like Rooney when he's 32 ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
Well klaasen is worth 24m then your right at 50m dude
Thatís a lot of money for a team to lose out on...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 02:38:25 PM
You mean like Rooney when he's 32 ?
Haha

Iím not one for conspiracy theories but it was his birthday the other day and there was nothing about it on the clubís website or a tweet saying Happy Birthday...they did it for loads of other players and even Tony Bellew. He doesnít attend games or feature in any promo work either.

I can imagine the club are pretty pissed off at him for winding down his contract and then again for backing out of the Chelsea move. Hopefully we can salvage a few million in Jan and then the cunt can go and break his leg.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on December 07, 2017, 02:42:31 PM
Sort of tempting to hold on to him so there's no chance of him going to the world cup. But that would be losing out on a lot of money, and he probably wouldn't even be arsed anyway.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 07, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
Sort of tempting to hold on to him so there's no chance of him going to the world cup. But that would be losing out on a lot of money, and he probably wouldn't even be arsed anyway.

He's not a hope in hell of getting anywhere near the World Cup squad.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 02:53:00 PM
Sort of tempting to hold on to him so there's no chance of him going to the world cup. But that would be losing out on a lot of money, and he probably wouldn't even be arsed anyway.
Yeah, heís out of the WC picture I think - and heís only got himself to blame. Even if he had been fit, Iím not sure he wouldíve played, even his u-turn on the Chelsea move. Then making that statement basically calling Moshiri a liar, denying he was ever on his way for a medical or heíd agreed to go there.

Winding down your contract at your boyhood club, the club that gave him his chance - is pretty much the most despicable thing a player can do.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 07, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
That Phil Foden is probably higher in the pecking order for a place in the WC squad next year.

Thats not even a dig at Ross, it's just the way things have turned out.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 07, 2017, 03:18:18 PM
Yeah, heís out of the WC picture I think - and heís only got himself to blame. Even if he had been fit, Iím not sure he wouldíve played, even his u-turn on the Chelsea move. Then making that statement basically calling Moshiri a liar, denying he was ever on his way for a medical or heíd agreed to go there.

Winding down your contract at your boyhood club, the club that gave him his chance - is pretty much the most despicable thing a player can do.

About time somebody said that, instead of its Koeman's fault, Moshiri's fault, Everton's fault, Everton fans fault, gangsters fault and his err agents fault. Have I missed anyone ? He is an adult he makes his own decisions, it makes me angry, it makes me sad and I would love him to resign another contract with us but it's highly unlikely, Ross has had ample opportunities but it just that to me, all that matters is him, not us and definitely not his home town club.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 07, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
He'll be back.

When Spurs come to Goodison, yes
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 04:09:20 PM
He can sign a pre contract in jan I think. Genuinely donít think weíll see him again in a blue shirt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 07, 2017, 04:15:39 PM
He can sign a pre contract in jan I think. Genuinely don’t think we’ll see him again in a blue shirt.
Is that pre contract only if he goes abroad or can he sign for spurs?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 04:30:52 PM
Is that pre contract only if he goes abroad or can he sign for spurs?
Abroad only.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on December 07, 2017, 04:36:56 PM
Didn't Sam say in his first presser that he thought a deal was already done for him to go?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
Hopefully Spurs will make a sensible offer of £15m or so and heíll leave in the next window and we can draw a line under it. If, however, Levy tries to take the piss and says Ď£5m now is better than nothing in the summer, take it or leave it...í then he can fuck off. Donít give Ross any minutes either, see where a year off the pitch leaves him.

Shame itís come to this but it would be very naive of Ross not to expect a backlash when youíve run down your contract.

What makes me most sad is that he didnít buy into the new ownerís vision and had no interest being part of it. Ok, itís not quite panned out how weíd have all liked but we can still get ourselves back on track. But Ross just wasnít interested.



Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 07, 2017, 04:48:34 PM

What makes me most sad is that he didnít buy into the new ownerís vision and had no interest being part of it. Ok, itís not quite panned out how weíd have all liked but we can still get ourselves back on track. But Ross just wasnít interested.

Not quite panned out? We've almost gone backwards under Moshiri, we've spent no more than we did under Kenwright and just employed an expert in avoiding relegation. If thats the marker for him signing his contract then you've just provided the ideal reasoning behind him wanting to leave.

A football career is only a short thing and ill be surprised if we win anything during Barkleys career with or without him here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on December 07, 2017, 04:57:06 PM
When Spurs come to Goodison, yes
He doesnít sit in the stands for us what makes you think heíll do the same for Spurs?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 04:59:36 PM
Not quite panned out? We've almost gone backwards under Moshiri, we've spent no more than we did under Kenwright and just employed an expert in avoiding relegation. If thats the marker for him signing his contract then you've just provided the ideal reasoning behind him wanting to leave.

A football career is only a short thing and ill be surprised if we win anything during Barkleys career with or without him here.


But Ross wasnít to know that this might be a false dawn? Iím talking about when Moshiri took over. There was genuine excitement when we were bought out, plans for a new stadium, spending money - but Ross didnít buy into it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 07, 2017, 05:04:48 PM

But Ross wasnít to know that this might be a false dawn? Iím talking about when Moshiri took over. There was genuine excitement when we were bought out, plans for a new stadium, spending money - but Ross didnít buy into it.

Maybe he knew more than most as hes been proven right?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 06:14:16 PM

But Ross wasn't to know that this might be a false dawn? I'm talking about when Moshiri took over. There was genuine excitement when we were bought out, plans for a new stadium, spending money - but Ross didn't buy into it.
Didn't buy into it cos he's a shit BLUENOSE .. .and soon to be the new Judas .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 07, 2017, 06:44:30 PM
You mean like Rooney when he's 32 ?

Exactly that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
Not quite panned out? We've almost gone backwards under Moshiri, we've spent no more than we did under Kenwright and just employed an expert in avoiding relegation. If thats the marker for him signing his contract then you've just provided the ideal reasoning behind him wanting to leave.

A football career is only a short thing and ill be surprised if we win anything during Barkleys career with or without him here.

Mad how some people are back on the Moshiri wagon.

2 years ago we had at least 3 champions league level assets on the pitch... weíve gone backwards, fast.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 07, 2017, 08:47:16 PM
Mad how some people are back on the Moshiri wagon.

2 years ago we had at least 3 champions league level assets on the pitch... weíve gone backwards, fast.

Stones lukaku and who?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 08:51:32 PM
Mad how some people are back on the Moshiri wagon.

2 years ago we had at least 3 champions league level assets on the pitch... we've gone backwards, fast.
Who all wanted out 😅😅..don't see your point tbh ...they wanted out before Moshiri so.....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 07, 2017, 08:55:24 PM
Mad how some people are back on the Moshiri wagon.

2 years ago we had at least 3 champions league level assets on the pitch... weíve gone backwards, fast.

In fairness, it's not unusual for non-CL teams to be able to hold onto better players. When we missed out on the CL under Martinez, then weren't able to mount a challenge again we were always on borrowed time with certain players.

As for Moshiri, I think it's a bit hard to call it either way right now. If you wanted to be kinder you could say some of this was teething/inexperience issues. While I appreciate our wage bill has increased, I am a bit skeptical of long term significant change unless he's really willing to spend to a higher level. Or at least get a structure (and sporting director) in place where we can identify talent and bring it in better than we're currently doing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 09:14:28 PM
Stones lukaku and who?

Barkers
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 09:14:59 PM
Who all wanted out 😅😅..don't see your point tbh ...they wanted out before Moshiri so.....

So we should accept not getting even close to replacing them?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 07, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
So we should accept not getting even close to replacing them?

Not sure we accepted that. Just did a shitty job of it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 09:37:01 PM
So we should accept not getting even close to replacing them?
Oh so it was all Moshiri's fault(that Could be saved a few hundred wrong posts) ....nowt to do with Koeman or Walsh ?.. .where did you get that knowledge ?....quite a few others on here all blaming the wrong uns and does this mean should we drag Koeman back too it wasn't his fault .

I'm in no way Moshiri's biggest fan I've said all along ,kid with an ant farm and magnifying glass ...but financially were in a much better place so not all bad although we are his learning curve .. .and I wasn't expecting miracles.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 09:45:47 PM
Oh so it was all Moshiri's fault(that Could be saved a few hundred wrong posts) ....nowt to do with Koeman or Walsh ?.. .where did you get that knowledge ?....quite a few others on here all blaming the wrong uns and does this mean should we drag Koeman back too it wasn't his fault .

I'm in no way Moshiri's biggest fan I've said all along ,kid with an ant farm and magnifying glass ...but financially were in a much better place so not all bad although we are his learning curve .. .and I wasn't expecting miracles.
Further to this Stones needed a good deal of input into him before he was anywhere near ready for champions league .. Barkley still remains to be seen (doubt he will ever reach the dizzy heights )...so only Realky Lukaku.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 07, 2017, 10:09:37 PM
So we should accept not getting even close to replacing them?

To be fair here, neither Lukaku or Stones were what you would call champions league footballers when we first bought them, neither was Barkley who came through the youth team and as you know you can't keep top class players when they want to move. Ronaldo and Suarez from Man United and Liverpool will tell you that.
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Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Oh so it was all Moshiri's fault(that Could be saved a few hundred wrong posts) ....nowt to do with Koeman or Walsh ?.. .where did you get that knowledge ?....quite a few others on here all blaming the wrong uns and does this mean should we drag Koeman back too it wasn't his fault .

I'm in no way Moshiri's biggest fan I've said all along ,kid with an ant farm and magnifying glass ...but financially were in a much better place so not all bad although we are his learning curve .. .and I wasn't expecting miracles.

No not saying it was, saying weíve gone backwards and he has some making up to do with me personally and anyone whoís been aware of this club and itís goings on should feel the same way.

Donít even get me started on that stadium.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on December 11, 2017, 03:15:15 AM
https://twitter.com/rbarkley20/status/939855749777428480
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 11, 2017, 03:26:02 AM
Donít be a fucking tease man.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2017, 02:46:57 AM
More twitter chat that heís fit, but refusing to play.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 12, 2017, 02:49:36 AM
More twitter chat that heís fit, but refusing to play.

Where's that, hope it's bull, surely we wouldn't be paying him wages.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on December 12, 2017, 02:50:31 AM
More twitter chat that heís fit, but refusing to play.



I'm pretty sure he's in breach of contract if he refuses to play.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2017, 02:56:24 AM
Where's that, hope it's bull, surely we wouldn't be paying him wages.

Just some lad to be fair and it was a few days ago but stumbled across it. I just get a bad feeling from the whole thing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2017, 03:12:00 AM
Just some lad to be fair and it was a few days ago but stumbled across it. I just get a bad feeling from the whole thing.


Just don't see that happening. Surely it'd be in his interests to get match fit again. We haven't even seen him back in training yet have we? He wasn't refusing to train before the injury, as that is when it happened.

Plus he has like no time left no his contract, it's not like we have much say in the matter whether he goes so refusing to play doesn't really help him all that much surely? Unless he thinks this would force our hand in January...but again it's not like the club weren't willing to sell already.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: D15TIN on December 12, 2017, 03:44:37 AM
Just don't see that happening. Surely it'd be in his interests to get match fit again. We haven't even seen him back in training yet have we? He wasn't refusing to train before the injury, as that is when it happened.

Plus he has like no time left no his contract, it's not like we have much say in the matter whether he goes so refusing to play doesn't really help him all that much surely? Unless he thinks this would force our hand in January...but again it's not like the club weren't willing to sell already.
There was a picture of him in his training gear jogging at FF recently, nobody else with him though. I don't think he's going to play for us again.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2017, 04:00:35 AM
There was a picture of him in his training gear jogging at FF recently, nobody else with him though. I don't think he's going to play for us again.

I'd not be surprised if he doesn't play again for us. I would expect to see him back in training though. I'm not trying to make excuses as I have nothing to base this on, maybe he is being excluded due to his own actions, I just don't think it makes sense to either party. Plus, it was only a few weeks ago Unsworth was saying he'd hope he'd be back fit and would think about signing...so I don't think from the club's perspective bridges have been burnt entirely. Unless something dramatic has happened in recent weeks.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 12, 2017, 04:02:22 AM
This situation is so strange.

I've never known a hamstring injury to last this long, so obviously there's some shenanigans going on.

But at the same time I can't fathom how someone can grow up a massive evertonian and fall out of love with Everton, especially when we are his exact level at the moment and pay massive wages.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2017, 04:05:37 AM
This situation is so strange.

I've never known a hamstring injury to last this long, so obviously there's some shenanigans going on.

But at the same time I can't fathom how someone can grow up a massive evertonian and fall out of love with Everton, especially when we are his exact level at the moment and pay massive wages.

How long has he been out for though since the second injury in training? It feels like a while but I thought as it was a bad one so they were saying it'd be around this timeframe before he came back.

I did think we'd see him returning to training soon, but there has been a total lack of information so who knows.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 12, 2017, 05:07:55 AM
How long has he been out for though since the second injury in training? It feels like a while but I thought as it was a bad one so they were saying it'd be around this timeframe before he came back.

I did think we'd see him returning to training soon, but there has been a total lack of information so who knows.

Been training pretty much alone for a bit now hasn't he?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2017, 05:13:55 AM
Poch has apparently said something about him without mentioning his name tonight.

Papers running with Chelsea and Spurs both want him in Jan.

How can an Evertonian watch everton struggle the way they have this season and sit on his arse collecting a cheque?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 12, 2017, 05:48:49 AM
I'd not be surprised if he doesn't play again for us. I would expect to see him back in training though. I'm not trying to make excuses as I have nothing to base this on, maybe he is being excluded due to his own actions, I just don't think it makes sense to either party. Plus, it was only a few weeks ago Unsworth was saying he'd hope he'd be back fit and would think about signing...so I don't think from the club's perspective bridges have been burnt entirely. Unless something dramatic has happened in recent weeks.
I think him doing a u-turn on the Chelsea move a potentially costing the club £35m is a seriously fucking burnt bridge.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 12, 2017, 06:33:54 AM
Mad how everyone thought Koeman was the bad guy .....and yet here we are ,he's already out the door ...he will never be a true BLUENOSE.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2017, 08:02:43 AM
I think him doing a u-turn on the Chelsea move a potentially costing the club £35m is a seriously fucking burnt bridge.

Yet they'd still sign him up tomorrow if they thought they could as it'd make fiscal sense to do so.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 12, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
Sam's apparently going to ask all first team squad of they want to stay or not before he looks to recruit. This could be interesting.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 12, 2017, 05:52:18 PM
Heís just uploaded a picture to his Instagram story. Looks like a heís got a massive scar on his hamstring, must of actually had surgery. The picture had the caption ďNot Long NowĒ...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on December 12, 2017, 06:01:50 PM
https://twitter.com/TheKendallEnd/status/940551440497602560
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Alanvideo on December 12, 2017, 06:06:00 PM
I don't think Barkley even goes to games at Goodison these days .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 12, 2017, 06:14:46 PM
I don't think Barkley even goes to games at Goodison these days .

Probably watches a stream.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2017, 06:16:32 PM
https://twitter.com/TheKendallEnd/status/940551440497602560
Some scar that
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Alanvideo on December 12, 2017, 06:19:05 PM
Some scar that
...............it really is. Thought it was his arse crack at first. :o
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2017, 06:19:44 PM
...............it really is. Thought it was his arse crack at first. :o
Think it actually proves he was injured to end some conspiracy theories
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2017, 06:22:22 PM
https://twitter.com/TheKendallEnd/status/940551440497602560

(https://media.giphy.com/media/LdF19xcqxH1Be/giphy.gif)
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Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/LdF19xcqxH1Be/giphy.gif)

👆🏻🤙🏻😎
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2017, 07:27:25 PM
heís had me off there
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2017, 07:29:34 PM
Barkley DCL Sig front 3 the dream is alive sign the contract sign it sign it sign it
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Post by: mikey_blue on December 12, 2017, 07:54:42 PM
                 Gana Rooney       
 Bolasie            Sig              Barkley
                       DCL

That would be pretty exciting.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 12, 2017, 09:19:25 PM
                 Gana Rooney       
 Bolasie            Sig              Barkley
        DCL Aubameyang

That would be pretty exciting.

Fixed :whistle:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bally on December 12, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
Shows he wasn't blagging it really doesn't it
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/489efed872fdbdb0ff89bf229bb84584.jpg)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 12, 2017, 10:34:49 PM
Wasnít blagging but heís still off
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 12, 2017, 10:39:57 PM
Don't think he'll play for us again now. Be very little point having a half fit player play for us for 3 or 4 games before going elsewhere

Does anyone actually believe there's any chance he'll sign a new contract. Players don't run their contracts down unless they want to move on
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bally on December 12, 2017, 11:14:37 PM
Just imagine that he's running his contract down knowing he will never play again and doesn't want to take the pay from Everton
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on December 12, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
Just imagine that he's running his contract down knowing he will never play again and doesn't want to take the pay from Everton




That scar looked pretty heavy duty. It's all been kept pretty quiet if there's anything in what you're saying though. I feel like a right twat for getting arsey about it. I feel like I've got a guilt complex coming on.  :blush:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on December 15, 2017, 05:06:47 AM
https://twitter.com/TeleFootball/status/941435128932327424
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Confucius on December 15, 2017, 05:23:29 AM
The whole debacle makes so little sense for Ross. At his boyhood club, earning mega money. An ambitious club. And Wayne Rooney playing in the position you want to play in showing you how it is done and teaching you to play deep, run the show and score goals.

Why would he want to leave? I just can't fathom it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on December 15, 2017, 05:28:48 AM
He must believe he has the talent to improve to the extent he could compete maybe in a year or so with the typical squad players in the top 6 clubs.  Which of them would be bothered taking the risk is a moot point. Good luck to him. Jeffers went with a similar ambition and after a short spell as "Wenger's fox in the box" vanished into oblivion. It does not mean Barkley shouldn't take the risk.  Whichever way he chooses to go he will be a millionaire regardless.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 15, 2017, 05:41:25 AM
He'll get offered twice as much at chelsea on a free. Makes financial sense for him and his agent.
Hold off signing for Chelsea, save them £25m - £30m, in return they'll pay him a decent signing on fee and a fat contract. All the while fleecing us, but he's a blue, and misunderstood, so it's fine apparently.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 15, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
Canít get my head around it personally. Would rather earn half the doh and get my bollocks kicked every night before bed than play for any other club.

Something must change when you are on the other side, just ask Wayne.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TheRam on December 15, 2017, 03:19:43 PM
One angle no one is taking is the impact of this injury.

He's been out for six months with a very serious hamstring tear.

That on top of the leg break he had at the start of his career and I don't think there's much left in him.

Can see it all going a bit Jack Wilshere for him.

Id be very reluctant to give him a new deal. Just cash in, let him run it down. It's not real loss for us. Rooney is doing better than Ross ever did for us.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 15, 2017, 03:28:45 PM
One angle no one is taking is the impact of this injury.

He's been out for six months with a very serious hamstring tear.

That on top of the leg break he had at the start of his career and I don't think there's much left in him.

Can see it all going a bit Jack Wilshere for him.

Id be very reluctant to give him a new deal. Just cash in, let him run it down. It's not real loss for us. Rooney is doing better than Ross ever did for us.

Rooneys numbers are great but we really are crying out for a proper playmaker. Not sure that's barkley either but I guess we could argue barkley still has a chance of becoming that player

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 15, 2017, 03:29:30 PM
Worst bit is losing the song
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 15, 2017, 03:58:48 PM
Looking at the scar off that injury and with the history of hamstring injuries, ( they always seem to come back), does not look promising at all for Ross. Looks like he could have problems passing a medical with the size of that scar, insurance etc.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: cantoffee on December 15, 2017, 06:44:08 PM
Makes me sad thinking about him playing for another club.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 15, 2017, 06:49:52 PM
Makes me sad thinking about him playing for another club.

Hes supposed to be a die hard Evertonian and he doesn't give a s**t about it and you shouldn't either
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 15, 2017, 06:49:52 PM
Worst bit is losing the song
.....we've got a diamond called Tom Davies
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lazarou on December 15, 2017, 06:54:03 PM
.....we've got a diamond called Tom Davies

A rough one.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on December 15, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
No chance he goes in January imo

On a free to Spurs in June
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: cantoffee on December 15, 2017, 07:03:07 PM
Hes supposed to be a die hard Evertonian and he doesn't give a s**t about it and you shouldn't either
Still not a great feeling that a boyhood blue with such talent is leaving. Not absolving him of blame but just saying it's shitty.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 15, 2017, 07:08:09 PM
He plaaays alongside jonjo kennyyy
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 15, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
Still not a great feeling that a boyhood blue with such talent is leaving. Not absolving him of blame but just saying it's shitty.

I agree, but I dont feel sad towards him or the situation, he is fully in control of this and can do what he wants, he has chosen to give everyone the bird and he needs to remember that when he returns and is warming up on the sidelines. Only time will tell if the grass is greener and whether s**ting on your boyhood club was a good move.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 15, 2017, 07:16:47 PM
No chance he goes in January imo

On a free to Spurs in June

Tend to agree, in that case I wouldn't really bother including him in first team selection unless absolutely no other choice, he wants to run his contract down and pick up a massive signing on fee then why should we pay him to get match fit for Spurs ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 15, 2017, 07:48:51 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/ross-barkley-transfer-everton-progress-chelsea-calculated-gamble-injury-instagram-a8112261.html


It is a time of change at Everton and Ross Barkley appears to have no part in their future.

At 24 years-old Barkley is no longer the young, talented midfielder that so many at Goodison Park saw as a pillar to build around, he is merely a talented midfielder. As things go, talent is far more important than youth but being in your late teens and early 20s buys you time and it buys you patience from those in charge. That fluid concept of 'potential' affords you nine lives but before you know it, they have expired, you're in your mid-20s and you're not even the most-adored academy product in midfield, let alone the team.

This is Ross Barkley's journey and while some felt it might take a new turn with Sam Allardyce, it appears to be barrelling down the same route with the new Everton boss admitting that the Englishman is as good as gone come January.

Allardyce revealed that Barkley is likely to leave (Getty Images)
"If someone comes in during January and says: 'Here you go' (with an offer) and the club says: 'Look, if he's not going to sign for us this has to be the case,' then I accept that," Allardyce said, as if explaining the act of bartering to an extra-terrestrial.

"If Ross stays until the end of the season and I feel he is giving 100 percent to the team, like he has done since he was a kid, then he is an available asset for us until he leaves on a free transfer. I would hate that to happen but it might do."

That Le Grand Sam himself is openly discussing such a plan on the day that the Toffees tied down three of the young talents they want to keep - Jonjoe Kenny, Mason Holgate and Dominic Calvert-Lewin - to new long-term contracts is not something that will go unnoticed by those in the Barkley camp. Tom Davies' emergence, too, has changed how Barkley is viewed.

Everton tie talented young trio to long-term deals
Despite making 22 England appearances and 150 for Everton, there remains a feeling that Barkley is a slightly unfulfilled promise. A player who could have been the driving, beating heart of an exciting England midfield or, as we now call that role, a Dele Alli. At 24 he is by no means ancient, it should be pointed out. Only in football terms, where players born this millennium are now changing hands for eight-figure sums, and with potentially 8-10 years left at the top, Barkley's suitors have seen enough, surely, to suggest that he is worth that calculated gamble.

Posting pictures to social media this week to remind people that he is still alive, Barkley revealed the horrendous scar left behind by his hamstring operation. Injury has meant that not only has he not played a single minute this season but also that his late-August move to Chelsea fell through. Both sides are still tetchy on the details of that encounter, with claim and counter-claim over whether Barkley failed a medical at the Blues' Cobham training ground or whether he just thought better of a move. The two camps scrambled to get their side of the story out with the haste and care of someone scraping ice from their windscreen on a frozen morning but the picture of what actually happened remains still unclear, frosted around the edges by Everton's need to get some sort of remuneration for their man.

Ross Barkley shows his scars as he plans injury return (Instagram)
Everton believe that the midfielder probably wants and needs a fresh start elsewhere while they embark on their own new path. And in case Barkley hadn't got the message sufficiently, they went out and bought a glut of players who fill the same role as Barkley so he was completely sure of how little they actually needed him to stay. The feeling at Goodison Park is that they can be optimistic again, upwardly mobile after a poor start and with an owner who is rich enough - or supposed to be, at least - to fund a future in the upper reaches of the Premier League.

With a gaggle of talented young players that already play first-team football, some talented imports and a boyhood-blue-turned-valuable-veteran in Wayne Rooney, Allardyce and chums are pretty bullish about the direction in which the club is travelling.

But the club could be falling into the same trap as they did with Barkley.

All talk of potential is exciting because it furnishes people with hope. Fulfilling that potential is always the hardest bit. A parting of the ways for Barkley and Everton seems inevitable but which of the two parties will be feeling better about themselves in 18 months' time is still pretty uncertain.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueski on December 15, 2017, 08:06:01 PM
I don't know that much can be read into Sam's comments here - all pretty sensible stuff - not sure what else there is to say.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 15, 2017, 08:24:02 PM
Reckon he'll go to a team where he can play with no pressure on his shoulders - work his way up to being a star, Palace, Swansea, Newcastle, maybe Burnley, and no doubt they'll have Christmas parties.



Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 15, 2017, 08:35:50 PM
Reckon he'll go to a team where he can play with no pressure on his shoulders - work his way up to being a star, Palace, Swansea, Newcastle, maybe Burnley, and no doubt they'll have Christmas parties.
Can see him getting laid out by a lout in any of them cities 😅.easy.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 15, 2017, 08:42:06 PM
Reckon he'll go to a team where he can play with no pressure on his shoulders - work his way up to being a star, Palace, Swansea, Newcastle, maybe Burnley, and no doubt they'll have Christmas parties.





You don't really believe that barkleys turned down over 100k a week so he can sign for Burnley on half that?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 15, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
You don't really believe that barkleys turned down over 100k a week so he can sign for Burnley on half that?
Doubt Spurs would pay him that either ....with their wage structure .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: kramer0 on December 15, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
I'd really like to see his dribbling/passing skills in this midfield, preferably from a deeper position. We're crying out for another player who can carry us forward through the middle. We could line up something like:

DM: Gana
CM: Rooney
CM: Barkley

Shame we probably won't get to see anything like that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 16, 2017, 12:23:33 AM
You don't really believe that barkleys turned down over 100k a week so he can sign for Burnley on half that?

Nope, but I have a feeeling in me water that that's what he's all about. Hope he stays at Everton but I reckon the thought of Goodison Park mass-moaning at him curdles his shite.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on December 16, 2017, 12:47:40 AM
I think he's a bit of a snide cunt, hasn't done anything on social media the whole time he's been injured like say Bolasie then suddenly he wants to communicate like he's one of us again just in case he gets a game !
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cassius on December 16, 2017, 01:29:16 AM
I think he's a bit of a snide cunt, hasn't done anything on social media the whole time he's been injured like say Bolasie then suddenly he wants to communicate like he's one of us again just in case he gets a game !

I think that's a bit unfair.

Why should he share his life on social media after a summer in which he almost moved and after what has looked like some pretty serious surgery?

And why does posting images make him like one of us again?

To me, he's been advised to show the fans and January suitors that he's reaching fitness again. Nothing snide or cunty in that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 16, 2017, 01:59:16 AM
I think he's a bit of a snide cunt, hasn't done anything on social media the whole time he's been injured like say Bolasie then suddenly he wants to communicate like he's one of us again just in case he gets a game !

Think when he's saying the likes of "Soon" and has given an update and photograph of his injury, he's just letting Spurs/ Chelsea and the like he's over his injury, get yer bids in lads.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Martip on December 16, 2017, 03:04:27 PM
I think he's a bit of a snide cunt, hasn't done anything on social media the whole time he's been injured like say Bolasie then suddenly he wants to communicate like he's one of us again just in case he gets a game !
Agreed. I'd add to this that he's thick as shit and gets manipulated by his agent also.

The way he has conducted himself over the last year has been really poor especially considering he's at his boyhood club who got him where he is today.

Imo he's been running the clock down in order for a payday and not saying anything to try and stay under the radar. Shitty move from a player with no brain or morals.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 16, 2017, 04:31:21 PM
I think he's a shitbag. How can he turn up every day and yet no one be right sure what his intentions are in the longer term. Hear nothing off him for months on social media (which is fine) and then when he realises he might actually have to play for us again he's posting messages of support before games. He needs to grow a pair of balls and just come out and say he's leaving. Though if he had mental strength he'd be twice the player he actually is
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 16, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
...he's just letting Spurs/ Chelsea and the like he's over his injury, get yer bids in lads.

The way he's acting like such a cunt, seems more like he's auditioning for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 22, 2017, 08:12:48 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/12/22/barkley-back-in-blues-training
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on December 22, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
Sam still has no idea what he's doing according to the press conference.

Shame we're wasting so much money paying for a player who is giving nothing back.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 22, 2017, 08:56:28 PM
Sam still has no idea what he's doing according to the press conference.

Shame we're wasting so much money paying for a player who is giving nothing back.

I think everyone has a very good idea what he wants to do by now, he's had months to sign a contract and hasn't yet and has told no one of his intentions. Didn't Sam say he was going to talk to Ross when He was first made manager, yet now Sam is saying he still doesn't know what Barkley is doing, that's stretching it a bit ! Finch Farm must be an awfully big place.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on December 22, 2017, 08:59:32 PM
I think everyone has a very good idea what he wants to do by now, he's had months to sign a contract and hasn't yet and has told no one of his intentions. Didn't Sam say he was going to talk to Ross when He was first made manager, yet now Sam is saying he still doesn't know what Barkley is doing, that's stretching it a bit ! Finch Farm must be an awfully big place.

I imagine Sam and Ross talking and Ross being like a spoilt 13 year old teenage boy. Sam asks what's going on, you staying or going, and Ross with his head down mumbling, I dunno. Sam asks again, Ross runs away crying complaining that everyone's on his back and it's not fair.

So Sam still has no idea what the kid's thinking.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on December 22, 2017, 09:06:56 PM
I imagine Sam and Ross talking and Ross being like a spoilt 13 year old teenage boy. Sam asks what's going on, you staying or going, and Ross with his head down mumbling, I dunno. Sam asks again, Ross runs away crying complaining that everyone's on his back and it's not fair.

So Sam still has no idea what the kid's thinking.
Was that supposed to be funny? Just want to know ! No offence humour is very personal
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on December 22, 2017, 09:27:53 PM
Hopefully Spurs recent slip down the tables might make Ross re-evaluate what he wants.

Genuinely convinced they're the only side he wants to go to because of the Pochettino factor.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on December 22, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Was that supposed to be funny? Just want to know ! No offence humour is very personal

No, it's just the way the whole thing is coming off. Plus I'm dealing with a moody 13 year old right now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 22, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
I'd really like to see his dribbling/passing skills in this midfield, preferably from a deeper position. We're crying out for another player who can carry us forward through the middle. We could line up something like:

DM: Gana
CM: Rooney
CM: Barkley

Shame we probably won't get to see anything like that.

His inability/unwillingness to track back, tackle and do the dirty stuff will always be his downfall. To get away with neglecting that side of the game you need to be delivering at the other end on a consistent basis and I don't think he has it in him to be the player that can be called upon when needed. Of course he may prove me wrong in a new environment and make me eat my words.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on December 22, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
I would love to see him get a run of games with Sammy Lee barking at him.  It could give him the chance of the fresh start he needs, away from all the negativity surrounding him  Or perhaps he does not have the personality to overcome difficulties and put things behind him, in which case he would likely be a bad acquisition for someone else to waste their efforts on.  Just maybe he wants to leave the city for non-footballing reasons anyway. The silence about him and from him is not helping much.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on December 22, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
His inability/unwillingness to track back, tackle and do the dirty stuff will always be his downfall. To get away with neglecting that side of the game you need to be delivering at the other end on a consistent basis and I don't think he has it in him to be the player that can be called upon when needed. Of course he may prove me wrong in a new environment and make me eat my words.
I feel the same and would love to eat humble pie over Ross .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 22, 2017, 10:30:38 PM
He's a luxury player - love luxury players, but.......................... .

..................all well and good if they perform consistently - and Ross hasn't



Loved Le Tissier - luxurious!





Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on December 30, 2017, 05:43:25 PM
Reports that Chelsea are in again for Ross. Probably around/just under the 35 mil that they came close to getting him for in the summer. However, reports also suggest hes nailed on for Spurs in the summer for zero pounds, and Ross fucking us about for the next few months before his ďbigĒ move/payday. Bit shitty tbh, considering what weve done for him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on December 30, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
Reports that Chelsea are in again for Ross. Probably around/just under the 35 mil that they came close to getting him for in the summer. However, reports also suggest hes nailed on for Spurs in the summer for zero pounds, and Ross fucking us about for the next few months before his ďbigĒ move/payday. Bit shitty tbh, considering what weve done for him.

What constantly  moaned and whinged about him? Called him a lazy shithouse.

The abuse this lad got before the contract stuff came out was ridiculous.

Iíd love him to stay and had (still do tbh) hoped koeman going might convince him to give us another year or two. Heís a top quality player but because he doesnít run round like a cat on coke and throw himself into tackles people think heís shit. Chelsea/spurs fans will love him when he gets there and they will appreciate what a good player he is. Iím not happy the way it seems to be working out and if I was in Ross position I would never leave but Iím not, he is and it appears he wants to go.

Tom davies is the next one. Itís already started with bellends getting on his back.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on December 30, 2017, 05:56:22 PM
Er. I think the vast majority of us would love him to commit to us, train and play hard to his full potential. But I reckon hes just going to fuck us off completely, run his contract off, and go for a minimal amount, and not give a flying fuck about us/Everton.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 30, 2017, 05:58:14 PM
What constantly  moaned and whinged about him? Called him a lazy shithouse.

The abuse this lad got before the contract stuff came out was ridiculous.

Iíd love him to stay and had (still do tbh) hoped koeman going might convince him to give us another year or two. Heís a top quality player but because he doesnít run round like a cat on coke and throw himself into tackles people think heís shit. Chelsea/spurs fans will love him when he gets there and they will appreciate what a good player he is. Iím not happy the way it seems to be working out and if I was in Ross position I would never leave but Iím not, he is and it appears he wants to go.

Tom davies is the next one. Itís already started with bellends getting on his back.



When did abuse become a few groans when you do something daft and fans suggesting you're not a world beater on a forum or 2. Ross Barkley has had absolutely no abuse from Everton fans. The suggestion he has is ridiculous

If he's still here in Feb with no intention of signing then he shouldn't play for Everton again at any level. Not our job to get him fit
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 30, 2017, 06:03:25 PM
What constantly  moaned and whinged about him? Called him a lazy shithouse.

The abuse this lad got before the contract stuff came out was ridiculous.

I'd love him to stay and had (still do tbh) hoped koeman going might convince him to give us another year or two. He's a top quality player but because he doesn't run round like a cat on coke and throw himself into tackles people think he's shit. Chelsea/spurs fans will love him when he gets there and they will appreciate what a good player he is. I'm not happy the way it seems to be working out and if I was in Ross position I would never leave but I'm not, he is and it appears he wants to go.

Tom davies is the next one. It's already started with bellends getting on his back.
So because they are home grown ...we're not allowed to give them the same shit as say Mirallas ,Williams ,Niasse(by some),Delofeu,Mccarthy,Robles have all gotten the same treatment for shite performances in the past? .
One rule for one ?.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 30, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
Can't think of many other players in the Everton team who have their own song. If he waits around for what free transfer to Spurs, then that does it for me, worse than Barmby, he's a homegrown blue for God sake.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: hamshank33 on December 30, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
Fuck sake, he got loads of shit for a large period don't try to kid yourself. That said man the Fuck up or at least sign a contract so we can get your worth
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on December 30, 2017, 06:38:04 PM
He got loads of shit at every game, but he also got loads of love.

I’m a massive massive Barkley fan but I do think he’s had his lot with the blues and he’s off, I just wish he’d do it soon so I can see him get loaned to vitesse or sit on the bench with drinkwater.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: starblood on December 30, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
He got loads of shit at every game, but he also got loads of love.

For the bazillionth time, I've never heard him get any "shit" from my seat in the ground  ::)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 08:04:36 PM
Stones got shit, Barkley got shit,now Davies starting to get it..Martina hate off the scale, the management and the club for me should be the only people to get the shit when they buy or use players wrongly, the only time for me a player could get stick is when they can't be arsed when they clearly have talent.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on December 30, 2017, 08:07:57 PM
So because they are home grown ...we're not allowed to give them the same shit as say Mirallas ,Williams ,Niasse(by some),Delofeu,Mccarthy,Robles have all gotten the same treatment for shite performances in the past? .
One rule for one ?.



Not at all but judge his performances fairly. There have been times when statistically he has been our best player for passes, forward passes, take ons all that shit but still gets slated.

I have been at games where he has done something decent but been slated, called a shithouse etc.

I remember one in particular in the Norwich cup game we lost he robbed a Norwich player, dribbled  it forward and took a shot on. It wasnít the best shot in all honesty but certainly not deserving of the abuse he got from behind me and throughout the game. Later in the game cleverley basically ran into a defender and lost the Ball and got applause and encouragement from those around me.

I think when we get a cultured young player come through we revel in it, but as soon as we realise they donít run around aimlessly throwing in Hardman challenges we get on their backs.

Your list of players above though are different situations and in the most part more than deserve the stick they got.  Mirallas is a stroppy fuck, Williams is a liability (although much improved lately) Gerri struggled with fitness and commitment but in my eyes was as much down to coaching and management as it was the player. McCarthy is a good player but constantly injured. Mainly gets stick for this and playing for Ireland when not available for us. Niasse is a god awful footballer whose so bad his shitness is actually an asset if used correctly not sure many blame him, just recognise he is out of his depth in the main.
Robles is just shit.

Itís happened to barkley, itís happening to davies and it wonít be long till kenny is on the receiving end of it too.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on December 30, 2017, 08:10:24 PM
For the bazillionth time, I've never heard him get any "shit" from my seat in the ground  ::)

Where do you sit because itís deffo not the gwladys unless your as deaf as a post.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 30, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
Stones got shit, Barkley got shit,now Davies starting to get it..Martina hate off the scale, the management and the club for me should be the only people to get the shit when they buy or use players wrongly, the only time for me a player could get stick is when they can't be arsed when they clearly have talent.

Stones was terrible in his last season here.

By got shit you mean didn't get a free pass. The players you mentioned get plenty of praise when they play well. I could give you a list who get shit even when they have a good game
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
Stones was terrible in his last season here.

By got shit you mean didn't get a free pass. The players you mentioned get plenty of praise when they play well. I could give you a list who get shit even when they have a good game
Stones was still very young to be getting shit don't you think though? I'm sure he looks back every day with a sigh and thinks what if.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 30, 2017, 08:23:22 PM
Stones was still very young to be getting shit don't you think though? I'm sure he looks back every day with a sigh and thinks what if.

I don't think groans at poor pieces of play is getting shit. I just think that's frustration and human nature

Booing them is getting shit. people can't just cheer and clap in moments of frustration. Be nice for them but the instant reaction is a groan
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
I don't think groans at poor pieces of play is getting shit. I just think that's frustration and human nature

Booing them is getting shit. people can't just cheer and clap in moments of frustration. Be nice for them but the instant reaction is a groan
Fair point, i may be over sensitive, don't know why but iv'e never liked individuals being booed, apart from Jim Pearson who took Mcenzie's spot {if i remember right} because that was just wrong.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: starblood on December 30, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Where do you sit because itís deffo not the gwladys unless your as deaf as a post.
The Paddock. However others on here have said the same from other parts of the ground.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 30, 2017, 08:49:22 PM
Fair point, i may be over sensitive, don't know why but iv'e never liked individuals being booed, apart from Jim Pearson who took Mcenzie's spot {if i remember right} because that was just wrong.

Same think it's badly wrong to boo your own players, at the end of the game maybe if your team have played shite, then boo them off, is only acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 08:52:18 PM
Same think it's badly wrong to boo your own players, at the end of the game maybe if your team have played shite, then boo them off, is only acceptable to me.
iv'e just always thought how bad someone would feel to be booed by your own, but the wife always tells me i'm a soft bastard.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 30, 2017, 08:56:22 PM
I think its noticeable within the ground and especially on TV how fickle we are. I often get texts from mates when where on asking why its so quiet except for moaning and groaning. I know we haven't had a lot shout about but I think we have one of the quietest and unsupportive set of fans around.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on December 30, 2017, 08:57:07 PM
iv'e just always thought how bad someone would feel to be booed by your own, but the wife always tells me i'm a soft bastard.

Yes feel the same it must be soul destroying and at the same time sap the players confidence to hear their own fans booing them. That's it really what benefit are the team getting when the player just wants to hide.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 08:59:29 PM
I think its noticeable within the ground and especially on TV how fickle we are. I often get texts from mates when where on asking why its so quiet except for moaning and groaning. I know we haven't had a lot shout about but I think we have one of the quietest and unsupportive set of fans around.

Yes feel the same it must be soul destroying and at the same time sap the players confidence to hear their own fans booing them. That's it really what benefit are the team getting when the player just wants to hide.
  All summed up for me..
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on December 30, 2017, 09:03:48 PM
When Ross finally leaves (inevitable) will that be enough space in the wage bill to bring in a replacement midfielder who in turn will hopefully push a few others towards the exit door?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: phillyt on December 30, 2017, 10:04:21 PM
The Paddock. However others on here have said the same from other parts of the ground.

Not sat there for a while but I was in the paddock for the Norwich game i mentioned above. Not so much in the Park end last time I sat there but I was to busy dancing out the way of Croatian lighters, coins and bottles. 😂
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on December 30, 2017, 10:07:06 PM
Does anyone really blame the lad for wanting to get away from this shite? If I was him I'd be itching to get away too.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on December 30, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Does anyone really blame the lad for wanting to get away from this shite? If I was him I'd be itching to get away too.
Stop right now this is our team
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Confucius on December 30, 2017, 10:59:48 PM
Oh how we need Ross Barkley right now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on December 30, 2017, 11:05:23 PM
Stop right now this is our team
What for ??...for Sam to have another alleged attacking player on the bench he ignores ?.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: howard1334 on December 30, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
Oh how we need Ross Barkley right now.

Yep....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ravardo on December 31, 2017, 02:06:41 AM
Theres a pic on instagram from barkley watching todays game on a stream at home,,,surely even he can see that he could walk back into the side and become an instant hero again :bonk:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on December 31, 2017, 02:23:42 AM
Theres a pic on instagram from barkley watching todays game on a stream at home,,,surely even he can see that he could walk back into the side and become an instant hero again :bonk:
And wave goodbye to ever winning anything during his career
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 31, 2017, 02:33:19 AM
Theres a pic on instagram from barkley watching todays game on a stream at home,,,surely even he can see that he could walk back into the side and become an instant hero again :bonk:

Real fans watch streams.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 31, 2017, 03:51:20 AM
You can't really blame him for wanting to better himself. Currently Spurs and Chelsea are miles ahead of us and in all likelihood will be for barkleys entire career
Massive signing on fee to go play at a higher level.... it's not the hardest decision in the world

I don't think players consider they might not be good enough. Think generally they just assume they'd do enough to play
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Juanito on December 31, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
Oh how we need Ross Barkley right now.


He would get a sore neck watching the ball get hoofed from one side of the pitch to the other.  Then get blamed by Big Sam for attacking players not doing enough. Sure he is thinking to himself now, who would improve me as a player, Maurico Pochettino or Big Ďhoof ball, 25% possessioní Sam.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on December 31, 2017, 02:44:51 PM

He would get a sore neck watching the ball get hoofed from one side of the pitch to the other.  Then get blamed by Big Sam for attacking players not doing enough. Sure he is thinking to himself now, who would improve me as a player, Maurico Pochettino or Big Ďhoof ball, 25% possessioní Sam.
Myohr post is dripping with hatred and agenda

And you canít provide evidence to back up any of your views.

Horrible to read
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: cantoffee on December 31, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Myohr post is dripping with hatred and agenda

And you can't provide evidence to back up any of your views.

Horrible to read
Calm down Donald you have a country to run.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: toshyboy on January 01, 2018, 04:48:23 PM
I reckon heíll be gone by end of the week. I reckon heís been fit a while but suits all parties to ďdragĒ the injury out a couple of weeks
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Juanito on January 01, 2018, 06:31:44 PM
Myohr post is dripping with hatred and agenda

And you canít provide evidence to back up any of your views.

Horrible to read

Haha. Everton have only registered above 50% possession once since he has been in charge, that was 51%.

He just blamed his forwards on national television for not posing enough threat when he picked players behind them that are all defensive.

He clearly instructs defenders to go long into channels that bypasses midfield. He mentioned this, live on television in his ĎSam Survival Secretsí

That, is evidence. 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 01, 2018, 06:39:32 PM
Haha. Everton have only registered above 50% possession once since he has been in charge, that was 51%.

He just blamed his forwards on national television for not posing enough threat when he picked players behind them that are all defensive.

He clearly instructs defenders to go long into channels that bypasses midfield. He mentioned this, live on television in his ĎSam Survival Secretsí

That, is evidence. 

Just sick of being outplayed this season that's with Allardyce and before him with Unsworth and Koeman. Do we practice ball control, passing in training anymore ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 01, 2018, 06:57:11 PM
Just sick of being outplayed this season that's with Allardyce and before him with Unsworth and Koeman. Do we practice ball control, passing in training anymore ?

Surely can't be the coaching why we haven't got players who can produce simple pass and move football. We seem to just have a whole host of slightly shit players
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on January 01, 2018, 07:17:03 PM
Surely can't be the coaching why we haven't got players who can produce simple pass and move football. We seem to just have a whole host of slightly shit players

You know the script, you know the agenda - itís all Allardyceís fault

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 01, 2018, 07:21:31 PM
Been moaning about performances for years now. Probably 10-12 of the last 15 have been drab
I think at some stage you've got to think maybe our players are just a bit shit
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 02, 2018, 05:26:53 AM
Been moaning about performances for years now. Probably 10-12 of the last 15 have been drab
I think at some stage you've got to think maybe our players are just a bit shit

You....moan!!???
Never!!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 02, 2018, 05:34:51 AM
You....moan!!???
Never!!

A meant a general all of us moaning. Me I've been moaning about everything all my life.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 02, 2018, 06:30:30 AM
We've had 3 coaches in a span of about 5 months now, and all the problems are still the same. Especially in attacking play.

Don't see how people can't say that just maybe, maybe, our players aren't good enough.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 02, 2018, 05:35:58 PM
Theres a pic on instagram from barkley watching todays game on a stream at home,,,surely even he can see that he could walk back into the side and become an instant hero again :bonk:

Probably can but why would he want to?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 02, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
We've had 3 coaches in a span of about 5 months now, and all the problems are still the same. Especially in attacking play.

Don't see how people can't say that just maybe, maybe, our players aren't good enough.
The same players who made all those chances for lukaku way more than he scored we all know how poor his first touch is ....now can't get over the halfway line ?.
Doesn't really ring true tbh....the negative style employed by three managers in a row doesn't help in the slightest either ....even Koeman had this team attacking last year ffs.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 02, 2018, 09:59:03 PM
The same players who made all those chances for lukaku way more than he scored we all know how poor his first touch is ....now can't get over the halfway line ?.
Doesn't really ring true tbh....the negative style employed by three managers in a row doesn't help in the slightest either ....even Koeman had this team attacking last year ffs.

True. But last season Koeman had Lukaku... And Ross Barkley.

 This team is in desperate need of a good centre forward a good winger and a good number 10. Our attacking players aren't good enough. A manager can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. They look at the team and manage accordingly.

ffs we don't even have a left back right now and a kid playing right back.

And just to be clear I'm defending all 3 managers we've had. I actually didn't even really want to fire Koeman.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on January 03, 2018, 01:27:07 AM
The same players who made all those chances for lukaku way more than he scored we all know how poor his first touch is ....now can't get over the halfway line ?.
Doesn't really ring true tbh....the negative style employed by three managers in a row doesn't help in the slightest either ....even Koeman had this team attacking last year ffs.

Of course itís all Allardyceís fault, who else can we blame but Sam for not turning Niasse into Aguerro
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Silas on January 03, 2018, 01:47:07 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction of the Ross Barkley thread?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Confucius on January 03, 2018, 01:55:26 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction of the Ross Barkley thread?

Nobody knows if it's locked or not. Apparently was under construction but we not sure as some believe it was moved to RAWK. All searches for it has been met with silence. After all we have done for the thread and it was part of our forum, we pretty gutted
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 03, 2018, 02:54:10 PM
We'd have a pretty tidy squad if he decides to stay till the end of the season.

                    Pickford
Coleman Holgate Williams Baines
                 Gana Rooney
       Bolasie      Sig      Barkley
                     Tosun
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 03, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
I think Liverpool will try and persuade him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 03, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
Just a small attempt at getting this back on track .I hope he festers on a London clubs bench and even that is too good for him .I am not having this shit about us not knowing what he is thinking -he is posting on twitter so he could do something but no .The last thing we want is a player who isn't on board aka Mirallas .Get out of the club Ross .The fact that some are saying he is better than what we have now means nothing ! How can he be better when he won't/can't play .We got over Alan Ball leaving so we can certainly get over the almost man .Back to bed now Gash.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 03, 2018, 07:05:28 PM
Off to the shite as a cheap replacement for Coutinho.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 03, 2018, 07:29:39 PM
Is that an ITK who just pushed up the yes votes by 1? I Live in hope. ::)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 06:07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/AHunterGuardian/status/948882351370788864
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 04, 2018, 06:10:19 PM
https://twitter.com/AHunterGuardian/status/948882351370788864

Why has this been such a close guarded secret? What a weird and exhausting process.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 04, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
I can't believe people are shocked. Koeman and Moshiri pretty much said as much in the summer. Inabit, Ross.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TheRam on January 04, 2018, 06:26:05 PM
Fuck this cunt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 06:29:41 PM
Hindsight will show it was a wise move not signing a new contract. Not that him or his agent were that bright to see it at the time but in the end it'll prove a decent bit of business for his career.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 04, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
 :'( :'( :'(

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSsmxtfX4AE9R2r.jpg)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: dax78 on January 04, 2018, 06:48:16 PM
Treated his "boyhood" club like shit here. Good riddance
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 06:52:24 PM
I went to live in London in my mid 20's, had the time of my life. I imagine it would have been a lot better if I was trousering £100k/week as well. He's following his own path and fancies a fresh challenge, no-one has an obligation to stay somewhere where they're probably not enjoying themselves.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on January 04, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
I went to live in London in my mid 20's, had the time of my life. I imagine it would have been a lot better if I was trousering £100k/week as well. He's following his own path and fancies a fresh challenge, no-one has an obligation to stay somewhere where they're probably not enjoying themselves.

If he wasnít enjoying himself he should have put a transfer request in and allowed us to get a fee at least,
but oh no, greedy sod held out to go on a free and pick up a massive fee himself.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
Nice of us to help him with his injury and fitness just in time for the window to open so he can fuck off, for probably half of what Chelsea were gonna pay in Sep.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 04, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
Hindsight will show it was a wise move not signing a new contract. Not that him or his agent were that bright to see it at the time but in the end it'll prove a decent bit of business for his career.

He only signed a 4 year deal in 2014 whereas youíd normally expect 5.

Reckon his agent was always after this sort of pressure but assumed heíd have been sold for £50m 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 07:03:06 PM
The keyboard Twitter warriors are absolutely slaughtering him, hes a fucking rat and worse than Rooney apparently
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 04, 2018, 07:06:40 PM
The keyboard Twitter warriors are absolutely slaughtering him, hes a fucking rat and worse than Rooney apparently

To be fair, he pretty much is? i love him, and i want him to stay. But he has massively fucked us over here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 07:07:08 PM
He only signed a 4 year deal in 2014 whereas youíd normally expect 5.

Reckon his agent was always after this sort of pressure but assumed heíd have been sold for £50m 2 years ago.

True.

I think the constant managerial upheaval hasn't helped either. Heís had legitimate reason to keep the club at arms length over the past few years and we havenít had a stable manager to force the issue.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 04, 2018, 07:07:09 PM
Opportunity to win things, leave the guy alone. That will never happen at Everton.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 04, 2018, 07:10:29 PM
The keyboard Twitter warriors are absolutely slaughtering him, hes a fucking rat and worse than Rooney apparently
Nothing to what he will get, should he ever get to play at goodison for his new team ...I fear he won't be as welcomed as Naismith was .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2018, 07:34:20 PM
I went to live in London in my mid 20's, had the time of my life. I imagine it would have been a lot better if I was trousering £100k/week as well. He's following his own path and fancies a fresh challenge, no-one has an obligation to stay somewhere where they're probably not enjoying themselves.
I love it when you make 2+2 = 5. If you had the time of your life why does he  need 100K a week to enjoy the same ? The two things are not related as you so rightly demonstrated .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
Nothing to what he will get, should he ever get to play at goodison for his new team ...I fear he won't be as welcomed as Naismith was .

He was booed and slagged off by some of our fans when he played for us so it's nothing new.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 04, 2018, 07:42:29 PM
He was booed and slagged off by some of our fans when he played for us so it's nothing new.
Jags won't be there to dry his eyes bless his cottons .😅😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 04, 2018, 07:48:53 PM
Hindsight will show it was a wise move not signing a new contract. Not that him or his agent were that bright to see it at the time but in the end it'll prove a decent bit of business for his career. wallet & agent

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: dekko on January 04, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
He had a really bad hamstring injury, who knows if he'll ever recover 100%. My guess is that as soon as he'll be playing well again, he'll be back on the sidelines.
Even so, I really wished he stayed with us.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 07:57:56 PM
Pinched this from TEF, it's pretty much spot on

Quote
If he wants to leave to further his career, that's fine. None of us like it, but we should be used to it by now; Rooney, Lescott, Arteta, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones, Deulofeu, Lukaku - it's nothing new for us to sell our best players.

I know we aren't a top team and haven't been for years, so as much as we hate it and might feel we're a big club, we just have to accept that. We all thought we could spend our way to competing with the best teams, but as we've seen this season, that's proving to be much harder than we might've thought - and that's down to the idiots identifying the targets.

With Barkley, the thing that's really got me is the summer and how he's shafted us of £10-20m.

He had a move to the Premier League champions. A team that wins a trophy every other year. A team in the Champions League. With World Class Players. World Class Manager... They wanted him in August. He was in the building.

But instead of signing, for whatever reason, he's decided to stay with us, to let us get him back fit, have him mixing with our squad like a bad apple - when really he should be somebody else's problem.

And crucially, in making that little decision, he's done a number on the club. The club he's meant to support, no less.

Listen - I do think he was subjected to unnecessary jeers from the Goodison crowd, I don't agree with the Koeman method of public criticism and I do think the club took his 'Evertonian-ism' for granted by not offering him improved terms far quicker (when they've been handing out 6 figure contracts to much worse players for a while now).

However (and I think this outweighs that)... This is the club who gave him the platform to be the player he's become, stuck with him when he had a potentially career ending injury, nursed him back to fitness time after time (even now) and allegedly the club he supports.

So like I say, if he wants to play at a higher level - fine. But not running a contract down like this, it's rat behaviour.

And if he goes to Spurs - a side who win as many trophies as we do currently (ie none). It's just shocking to be honest.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TSGun on January 04, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Oh how I've fantasized about an Everton team containing both Barkley and Rooney over the years. *sigh*

Is it actually official he's off?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 08:03:06 PM
I love it when you make 2+2 = 5. If you had the time of your life why does he  need 100K a week to enjoy the same ? The two things are not related as you so rightly demonstrated .

What??
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 04, 2018, 08:04:16 PM
Pinched this from TEF, it's pretty much spot on

Cant argue with most of that. The money is pretty much irrelevant in my opinion, whats the difference between 35 and 20 million in todays football world? We've wasted much more than that and its his prerogative to do what he wants. It again strikes me as bad management from the top, 2 years ago he was offered a new contract, he refused and as a result should have been put on the transfer list, we have let this happen just as much as him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
I would argue itís Spurs who have done a number on us.

Barkley had no obligation to sign for Chelsea if, as was rumoured, Conte wasnít keen and didnít even bother to meet with him.

Spurs probably said sit tight until January when you are fit, as is there right to do.

Itís just a mess of a situation with the blame at pretty much everyoneís door over the past few years, all contributing to where we are now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 04, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Who does he replace in the Spurs side though? He will get game time but very much doubt he will be a regular starter
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 04, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
Who does he replace in the Spurs side though? He will get game time but very much doubt he will be a regular starter

Heíll be part of a top squad playing in big games against top European teams. If he has anything about himself he has to back his own ability and take his chances when he gets them in that kind of scenario.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 04, 2018, 08:31:48 PM
Who does he replace in the Spurs side though? He will get game time but very much doubt he will be a regular starter

Wouldn't think he'd start every game for us either though really.
Certainly wasn't last season
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on January 04, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
Wouldn't think he'd start every game for us either though really.
Certainly wasn't last season

This

Are people forgetting how bad he was at times last season and his complete lack of a football brain?

Unless heís been to see the wizard of oz to get a new brain, I donít have any problem with him leaving
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2018, 09:38:14 PM
What??
You said you had the time of your life but implied you didn't have the 100k a week .What is hard to understand ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2018, 09:40:40 PM
Heíll be part of a top squad playing in big games against top European teams. If he has anything about himself he has to back his own ability and take his chances when he gets them in that kind of scenario.
You do know who this link is about ! He hasn't ever " backed his own ability" or took a chance!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: JPMck01 on January 04, 2018, 09:42:53 PM
Just been listening to Talksport Hawksbee and Jacobs, had a guy on who reports on both us and the RS.

Guy said, Big Sam was told when he joined to forget about Ross heís already gone, be it to Chelsea or Spurs. Heíll either go this window or in the summer but heís definitely gone.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 04, 2018, 09:44:26 PM
He's going for money, so he won't be going to Spurs, who would only pay him half of what we offered.

It'll be It's, City, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool, as they would all take a punt on a free transfer, but pay a decent salary, not sure any of them would pay a fee for him though, so doubt it'll be this month, who knows though.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 04, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Imagine if he goes to the shite.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 04, 2018, 09:50:19 PM
as if he would go to Liverpool. He wants to get out of the city remember.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 04, 2018, 09:52:54 PM
I tried to write this before but the page disappeared .
I hate Moyes for what he did running down his contract knowing he was going ,saving UTD the compensation .This is far deeper for me ,Roscoe has truly shafted us t,he club he professes to be a fan of just for pure self gain and for that I will never want him to don an Everton shirt again ,Rooney did us a favour and I never hated him for it ,I was just really sad .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: JPMck01 on January 04, 2018, 09:58:20 PM
Something else the guy on talksport said.

The fans are partly to blame for him wanting to go because weíve always under-rated him and not backed him to the hilt.

Iíve always thought that he had more in his locker that he could give when he plays and Iíve given him stick for it, but not to the point where Iíve wanted him out.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 04, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
Good point?

https://twitter.com/eternalblue1878/status/948941420060127232
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 04, 2018, 10:02:02 PM
Imagine if he goes to the shite.

Probably still wouldn't turn up in a derby.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 04, 2018, 10:40:39 PM
To think some dicks thought it was all because Koeman tried pushing him out of the club and heíd sign his contract the second Koeman left
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 04, 2018, 10:42:13 PM
As someone righty said before - Iíll 100% boo him at Goodison because you know itíll actually affect him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on January 04, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
As someone righty said before - Iíll 100% boo him at Goodison because you know itíll actually affect him.

Wherever he goes the first thing his new manager needs to do is get him the best sports psychiatrist there is. He is mentally weak and that is what is affecting his progression.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 04, 2018, 11:24:54 PM
Good point?

https://twitter.com/eternalblue1878/status/948941420060127232
Cant see it myself
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 04, 2018, 11:29:34 PM
Wherever he goes the first thing his new manager needs to do is get him the best sports psychiatrist there is. He is mentally weak and that is what is affecting his progression.

We missed the boat on getting an accomplished brain surgeon to splice his body with Tom Davies' brain.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Martip on January 04, 2018, 11:30:18 PM
Ross Barkleys face really bothers me atm.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 04, 2018, 11:38:24 PM
Good point?

https://twitter.com/eternalblue1878/status/948941420060127232

More likely the next cab off the rank for the boo boys.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 04, 2018, 11:44:00 PM
Cant argue with most of that. The money is pretty much irrelevant in my opinion, whats the difference between 35 and 20 million in todays football world? We've wasted much more than that and its his prerogative to do what he wants. It again strikes me as bad management from the top, 2 years ago he was offered a new contract, he refused and as a result should have been put on the transfer list, we have let this happen just as much as him


Thing is though look at the stick Rooney took, but at least he was straight with the club and the fans and had the decency to put a transfer request in. Barkley for me has treated the club and the fans with utter contempt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on January 04, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
Cant see it myself

Think heís managed to make it into double figures for G+A which is really good going.

Wouldnít be surprised to see him make it OR not make it, but Iíd be up for seeing him in and around the team next year like.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Silas on January 05, 2018, 12:07:01 AM
Just get rid now. I'm a big fan but it's fucking ridiculous this is still a drama
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 12:11:52 AM
Think he's managed to make it into double figures for G+A which is really good going.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him make it OR not make it, but I'd be up for seeing him in and around the team next year like.
He's doing well and it's good to see him take it in his stride
Id be more than happy to see him in around the squad, first team as am sure he is a very good footballer

Id be worried that he has the pace and strength to succeed in the pl at this moment in time tho and we have some very unforgiving fans.... Let's not forget, we had osman and pienaar not so long back and they had plenty of haters

One thing he has over both of them tho is his eye for a goal
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 12:13:09 AM
As for Barkley
I'll be sorry to see him leave as for me he is better than what we have now

However, if he doesn't want to be here then get him gone

Id like to hope someone asks him exactly why he wasn't out before he leaves and we take it on board
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on January 05, 2018, 12:20:42 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 12:24:44 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says

To be honest not arsed what he has to say....His actions have spoken far louder than any words.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 12:26:40 AM
Just get rid now. I'm a big fan but it's fucking ridiculous this is still a drama

Exactly, get him sold asap and move on
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2018, 12:27:41 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says

"Errr, obviously yeah, yano. It's just errr just, yeah. Definitely" Probably something like that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 12:28:12 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says

Will contain 'ambition' 'champions league' 'chance to win things' 'fresh start' 'new challenges' 'nothing to do with money'
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 12:29:31 AM
Will contain 'ambition' 'champions league' 'chance to win things' 'fresh start' 'new challenges' 'nothing to do with money'

Well then at least he will be honest with his new club and new fans.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: American Evertonian on January 05, 2018, 12:35:49 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says

It's amazing how drastically our view of him has changed over the past 1-2 seasons.

I am not disagreeing at all with what you say Shoggers as I am thinking the exact same thing. I don't wish him ill-will, but I do hope on his quest for glory and victories he finds none other than the happiness he finds in Everton (without him) finally winning a cup.
Title: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on January 05, 2018, 12:41:17 AM
Will contain 'ambition' 'champions league' 'chance to win things' 'fresh start' 'new challenges' 'nothing to do with money'

Some 'new challenges' for him would be stringing more then five words together, holding down a first team spot, and not bursting into tears when he drops his bag of sweets.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 05, 2018, 01:12:24 AM
Can't wait for him to leave just to hear what the fucker says
I've always been a spurs / chelsea/ Liverpool or insert club here fan .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 01:56:59 AM
He's doing well and it's good to see him take it in his stride
Id be more than happy to see him in around the squad, first team as am sure he is a very good footballer

Id be worried that he has the pace and strength to succeed in the pl at this moment in time tho and we have some very unforgiving fans.... Let's not forget, we had osman and pienaar not so long back and they had plenty of haters

One thing he has over both of them tho is his eye for a goal

Ossie has decent goal return to be fair.

But yeah I think heís going to get a lot of stick for getting brushed off the ball and not flying round in general (Bily).

Needs to develop general dominance of the game (beyond great goals / assists) at that level before getting genuinely excited at prospect of PL level.

Ossie and Pienaar knew how to get around physical disadvantages - Bily didnít.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on January 05, 2018, 02:26:40 AM
Ossie has decent goal return to be fair.

But yeah I think heís going to get a lot of stick for getting brushed off the ball and not flying round in general (Bily).

Needs to develop general dominance of the game (beyond great goals / assists) at that level before getting genuinely excited at prospect of PL level.

Ossie and Pienaar knew how to get around physical disadvantages - Bily didnít.

Yeah canít imagine our fans would put up with him for long unless he was getting like 20 Goals, and even that isnít enough if they think youíre lazy (Lukaku).

I think he should model his game on Sigurdsson. Heís just a bit of clean ball striking technique and the odd back heel in a relatively slow, slender frame, but he works very hard, can tackle and can beat people with the ball rather than his legs.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on January 05, 2018, 02:45:33 AM

Thing is though look at the stick Rooney took, but at least he was straight with the club and the fans and had the decency to put a transfer request in. Barkley for me has treated the club and the fans with utter contempt.

Come on, Rooney did that to force the move. There was no virtue there. He wanted to move, and by doing that he got the move and he didn't give a crap about the club or fans either at that point. He simply was looking after his own career, which is however understandable if hard to accept as a fan. Barkley has been as straight with the club too, clearly the club knows he wants to leave. Fans were left in the dark by both the club and Barkley, however when it comes to transfers it shouldn't be the case that we're saying we're going to sell as that puts the club in a poor negotiating position...although there is no getting away from that now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 05, 2018, 03:03:30 AM
Never been the same since he got twatted in that bar/club/place.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
It begins, Daily mail though

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5236285/amp/Chelsea-step-Evertons-Ross-Barkley.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
Just get rid now. I'm a big fan but it's fucking ridiculous this is still a drama

I'm sure we would, if someone would put in a bid.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 04:44:35 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949045491651809280
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 04:48:13 AM
If we sell him for money will people be happier?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on January 05, 2018, 04:50:10 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949045491651809280

Going to be interesting. I mean, I get why as a young player you'd want to play under Pochettino, but they're no sure thing. Big players could definitely leave if they miss out on CL whereas you know Chelsea are pretty much always in the mix.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 04:50:20 AM
If we sell him for money will people be happier?

Slightly

Still stinks if he goes to Chelsea for anything less than the £30m-£35m they were happy to pay a few months back, for him to turn it down.

He'll also get a loyalty bonus from us I think, which I suppose he's entitled to, but rubs salt in the wounds a bit.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 04:51:12 AM
Bid is believed to be 15 million
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ramjam on January 05, 2018, 05:01:20 AM
Great sales pitch from big Sam, heís not fit, his touch isnít there, as bad as Koeman. Any wonder weíre getting fuck all for him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 05:29:13 AM
If we sell him for money will people be happier?

Depends how much.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 05:34:40 AM
Rather he went to Chelsea than Spurs if that makes any sense, at least Chelsea are winners and I honestly have disliked Spurs since Levy screwed us twice over Pienaar. Resigned to him going but won't be wishing him well and won't be remembered with any great affection by me anyway. We should be looking at a player exchange from Chelsea,  have they any decent left backs or forwards that can go on loan to us......
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 05:39:34 AM
He's not leaving £100k+ offer at Everton to get about £70k a week at Spurs.
He's going for money, which is why Chelsea is probably his first choice.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tinga on January 05, 2018, 05:49:03 AM
Hope he flops.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 05, 2018, 06:02:50 AM
That's a nasty hamstring injury he may well never be the same 1-10 game player he was before 😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2018, 06:08:32 AM
That's a nasty hamstring injury he may well never be the same 1-10 game player he was before

Maybe the surgeons transplanted his with James Mcarthy's? Everton are having the last laugh here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 06:10:08 AM
Him and Danny Drinkwater will probably get to know another very well, sitting together most games.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: brap2 on January 05, 2018, 06:20:02 AM
Sounds like it could be done before the weekend.

Wonder if they have any talent we could use on loan. Musonda?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jamokachi on January 05, 2018, 07:14:33 AM
He's not leaving £100k+ offer at Everton to get about £70k a week at Spurs.
He's going for money, which is why Chelsea is probably his first choice.

So why didn't he go in the summer when a bid was accepted?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
So why didn't he go in the summer when a bid was accepted?

Wait a bit, club pays less, but offers better personal terms for you (signing on fee, salary, etc). Its actually quite astute from him and his advisors (although it does sound a bit like tapping up), if I was a neutral I would say fair play to him, but I'm not a neutral, I'm an Everton fan, so I think he's a cunt.

Looks like it could be wrapped up before the weekend anyway, at least it will all be done with.

https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/949057448735682560


The odds of him going to Chelsea have been slashed  by the bookies in the last 2 hours to around about 1/7 too, compared to the likes of Spurs who are 10/1.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bogie on January 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
To Stay at Everton (Does not include returning on loan following a permanent deal elsewhere)
11/2

best bet

would Big Sam have 2k on it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on January 05, 2018, 08:28:24 AM
Bid is believed to be 15 million

Yeah, I doubt it'd be a lot more than that given the offer in the summer and he had the injury which has done nothing to improve his value.

Looks like we might be in for N'Zonzi soon.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 05, 2018, 08:35:34 AM

The odds of him going to Chelsea have been slashed  by the bookies in the last 2 hours to around about 1/7 too, compared to the likes of Spurs who are 10/1.

So Spurs are 1000% likely to sign him? Wow.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 05, 2018, 10:20:58 AM
I said a while back Chelsea is a way better fit for him then Spurs.

Spurs mid field is packed.

Chelsea have an aging fabregas, and drinkwater. Barkley will get a lot of playing time.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 05, 2018, 10:22:54 AM
Yeah, I doubt it'd be a lot more than that given the offer in the summer and he had the injury which has done nothing to improve his value.

Looks like we might be in for N'Zonzi soon.

And they know the player wants out.

And they know they could just wait till the summer and get him for free.

15 mil. Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MexicanToffee on January 05, 2018, 10:35:53 AM
Inevitable, but he is still a massive, greedy cnut for screwing his boyhood club out of a good 20 million. Hope he gets terminal splinters.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Confucius on January 05, 2018, 11:39:27 AM
15M is all we can get and quite a kick in the teeth.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 01:33:58 PM
£15m is fair. Put it in the coffers along with maybe £10m for Mirallas off anyone who may be interested and thatís bought us a new striker for no outlay and no material loss to the squad.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 05, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
So Spurs are 1000% likely to sign him? Wow.

Someone doesn't understand odds. 10to1 is 9% chance and that's before you consider the bookies overround
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 05, 2018, 01:42:41 PM
Its a real shame . There is a quality player in there but I am not sure he can handle the expectation . Time will tell . Bye .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
Imagine the Chelsea fans dismay when they are used to the swift interchanges of Hazard, Willian and Pedro and then they get the ball hogging indecision of Barkley on a bad day.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
Imagine the Chelsea fans dismay when they are used to the swift interchanges of Hazard, Willian and Pedro and then they get the ball hogging indecision of Barkley on a bad day.
Itíll be interesting to see if that can get coached out of him. Hope it canít...because, yes, Iím bitter.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on January 05, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
£15m is fair. Put it in the coffers along with maybe £10m for Mirallas off anyone who may be interested and thatís bought us a new striker for no outlay and no material loss to the squad.

£10m seems a lot for him.

For all the shit Mirallas gets, we did get a fair bit out of him considering he only cost £6m.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: D15TIN on January 05, 2018, 02:25:19 PM
Surely this is a good opportunity to include Batshuayi in any deal? Have him, Tosun and Calvert-lewin as our striking options, sell niasse
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lazarou on January 05, 2018, 02:31:34 PM
Still can't believe this is happening, can't imagine what he will bring to Conte's Chelsea side other than he is English ( too much FM18). Say's a lot about his mentality.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 05, 2018, 02:47:34 PM
Someone doesn't understand odds. 10to1 is 9% chance and that's before you consider the bookies overround

Then 1 to 7 (which was mentioned as the odds of him going to Chelsea) must be a 700% chance of him going there.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 02:48:10 PM
£10m seems a lot for him.

For all the shit Mirallas gets, we did get a fair bit out of him considering he only cost £6m.

He was a bargain for 2 and 1/2 years (intermittent fitness issues aside).
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
Thanks Everton for helping me through my injury, helping me with my rehabilitation, letting me use the facilities to get fit, letting me carry on wearing your colours

Now fuck off


Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 02:52:33 PM
So it looks like it was in all likelihood a deal between Chelsea and his advisors in the summer then which called it off and did us out of £20m.

All this ĎWasnít sure if Conte really wanted himí rubbish was probably a way of getting a bigger signing on fee and a decent agent slice in return for them saving a large chunk of cash. Nice work.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:05:06 PM
So it looks like it was in all likelihood a deal between Chelsea and his advisors in the summer then which called it off and did us out of £20m.

All this ĎWasnít sure if Conte really wanted himí rubbish was probably a way of getting a bigger signing on fee and a decent agent slice in return for them saving a large chunk of cash. Nice work.

Well thought out plan by him and Chelsea, go and get fit and we'll buy you for half price in Jan and give you a bigger signing on bonus
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: velimski on January 05, 2018, 03:07:03 PM
Well at least it isn't Spurs. That would have been a bigger kick in the bollocks.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 05, 2018, 03:12:55 PM
Then 1 to 7 (which was mentioned as the odds of him going to Chelsea) must be a 700% chance of him going there.

What? 1to 7 is 87.5% chance
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:19:30 PM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949199908346695680
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 03:19:56 PM
Look's like today's the day. I'm not going to say Ross and his agent's got one over on us, But it does look like it. I suppose we'll all have to wait for Ross's book. More cash in the bank. Pretty angry at all of this, me.




https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949199908346695680
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 03:21:39 PM
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-rush-through-15m-ross-barkley-transfer-to-beat-tottenham-to-january-deal-a3732466.html

"Barkley, who decided against a £35m transfer to Chelsea on the final day of the window to concentrate on his recovery from a serious hamstring problem."

And earn a bit more coin
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 03:25:06 PM
Stick him on the bench tonight and make him spend 90mins warming up in front of our fans  :snigger:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:25:47 PM
I'd hope to see his replacement signed before the Spurs game next week
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: D15TIN on January 05, 2018, 03:28:10 PM
Fuck him, concentrate on tonight
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 03:28:40 PM
I'd hope to see his replacement signed before the Spurs game next week

Didn't we sign 3 of them in the summer??
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:29:16 PM
Didn't we sign 3 of them in the summer??

Always room for one more.

Really we should be asking Chelsea for Batshuyi on loan as part of this deal, loan with a vue to a perm move in the summer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bigl1cks on January 05, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
So he basically cost us £20 million plus 6 months wages by refusing to sign for them in August. True blue my arse.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on January 05, 2018, 03:38:40 PM
Always room for one more.

Really we should be asking Chelsea for Batshuyi on loan as part of this deal, loan with a vue to a perm move in the summer.
Or William
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
So he basically cost us £20 million plus 6 months wages by refusing to sign for them in August. True blue my arse.

Yes, and the cost of his surgery, worse thing is our fitness team have been helping him for months as well, with his fitness, his weight etc while he's been stinking the place out. The more I think about it, the angrier I get,  he's proper kicked us in the bollocks here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:44:12 PM
Or William

He's proper shit on The Voice
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Alanvideo on January 05, 2018, 03:45:28 PM
He's gone ,close thread.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 05, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
Iíd still prefer him to stay.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 05, 2018, 03:46:48 PM
I can see him getting a slight thigh strain when Chelsea are due back at Goodison, no way would he want to face the crowd now
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 03:49:52 PM
I'd hope to see his replacement signed before the Spurs game next week

We signed four replacements in the summer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 03:50:39 PM
So he basically cost us £20 million plus 6 months wages by refusing to sign for them in August. True blue my arse.

The unfortunate timing of his injury lost us the £20m more than any machiavellian masterplan.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 03:51:30 PM
We signed four replacements in the summer.


Turn the fantastic 4 into the the famous 5
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 03:56:35 PM
Turn the fantastic 4 into the the famous 5

More likely to be the Secret 7.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
The unfortunate timing of his injury lost us the £20m more than any machiavellian masterplan.



He still could have signed, nothing would have stopped it, he didnt fail a medical, he said he wanted to keep his options open, he did cost us 20 million
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Juanito on January 05, 2018, 04:06:58 PM
Or William

I think he is a better player than Barkley yet canít get a regular spot at Chelsea, so donít see how much game time Ross will get.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ari on January 05, 2018, 04:10:26 PM
Or William

When Mourinho was having a bad time at Chelsea it was one player who never let him down in terms of playing up to his abilities and that was William.  He is probably (or was) one of the best players in the world at a time.  I would take him to Everton if I could choose.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
Isn't his name Willian? The last couple of posts are starting to convince me it's William.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 04:17:45 PM
He still could have signed, nothing would have stopped it, he didnt fail a medical, he said he wanted to keep his options open, he did cost us 20 million

Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once heíd turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping theyíd be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
I would have taken Loftus-Cheek in part-exchange in the summer. No chance of getting him now he's on loan elsewhere but he looks to have the potential to be a player with the skills we lack in abundance. It's these type of players we still need to have on our radar to spot and develop, not just go for overpriced established talent just because we have a few quid now
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 04:19:48 PM
Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once heíd turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping theyíd be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.

Sky sources are saying Spurs ended their interest in Barkley a while ago
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 04:24:38 PM
Sky sources are saying Spurs ended their interest in Barkley a while ago

Sky sources are usually 90% incorrect on transfer speculation.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 04:26:56 PM
Sky sources are usually 90% incorrect on transfer speculation.

Almost all media are shit with transfer speculation, they throw out as much as possible in the vain hope a couple come off which they can big up and try and make out they know what they're talking about, whilst conveniently forgetting the ton of stories that were baseless and incorrect
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bigl1cks on January 05, 2018, 04:28:24 PM
The unfortunate timing of his injury lost us the £20m more than any machiavellian masterplan.



Stop trying to make excuses for him. He's sold us down the river.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 05, 2018, 04:28:40 PM
Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once heíd turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping theyíd be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.

you've utterly missed his point. Or, have seen it but decided to argue for the sake of arguing.

yes, without the hamstring he would have been off last summer.
People are saying he should have been off last summer anyway.

HE chose to rehab at Everton. HE cancelled the move to Chelsea.
Now, 6 months later he is going to Chelsea.

It was clear by Chelsea's reaction to him binning them that they were happy to take him injured.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bigl1cks on January 05, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once heíd turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping theyíd be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.

How about an alternative that he gets £10m out of the £2m0 they have saved as a signing fee? That's just a plausible as the story you have made up above.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
Stop trying to make excuses for him. He's sold us down the river.

No need to make any excuse for him, heís made his choices and heís off.
you've utterly missed his point. Or, have seen it but decided to argue for the sake of arguing.

yes, without the hamstring he would have been off last summer.
People are saying he should have been off last summer anyway.

HE chose to rehab at Everton. HE cancelled the move to Chelsea.
Now, 6 months later he is going to Chelsea.

It was clear by Chelsea's reaction to him binning them that they were happy to take him injured.

Would you make a life changing career choice in one day Mick after what looks like a year of planning and your life heading in a different direction?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 05, 2018, 04:34:06 PM
Well, if you think the day he went to London to have a medical was the very first he heard of Chelsea's interest then you are massively naive.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 04:39:03 PM
Well, if you think the day he went to London to have a medical was the very first he heard of Chelsea's interest then you are massively naive.
They have been after in since he was about 13
I remember a youth coach saying he told Everton he would swap his entire team for Barkley
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
What's Jim White saying?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
What's Jim White saying?

Farhad has probably added him to the WhatsApp group
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 05, 2018, 04:47:34 PM
Absolutely gutted and fuming at the same time.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 04:48:51 PM
I'm amazed we haven't heard anything about us asking for one of their players to be included in the deal, I know they've got us over a barrel here like, Conte has said players can leave if they want, we want a striker or two, so get it done.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on January 05, 2018, 04:51:15 PM
I can see him getting a slight thigh strain when Chelsea are due back at Goodison, no way would he want to face the crowd now

He'll fold like a Mars bar on a barbeque
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
I'm amazed we haven't heard anything about us asking for one of their players to be included in the deal, I know they've got us over a barrel here like, Conte has said players can leave if they want, we want a striker or two, so get it done.

Steve Walsh is probably still in Turkey patting himself on the  back and feeling smug about almost getting a new striker over the line....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Spurs have been for a long while his destination of choice but they clearly hesitated when his hamstring went ping, Chelsea saw a late alternative to Chamberlain once heíd turned them down and made an offer that took Barkley and his agent by surprise and at which point stalled them for whatever reason (probably given the previous year long speculation about Spurs and the planning of the move) hoping theyíd be back for him now. In the interim either Chelsea have become more palatable after consideration or Spurs interest has cooled given they could actually continue to wait out the final 6 months and get him for nothing in the summer.

Without his hamstring going he would have definitely been off last summer.

Spurs were never his destination of choice, he would have been taking a pay cut.

It's always been about securing the most money for him. His hamstring going was more of an opportunity for him and Chelsea to make/save some money.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on January 05, 2018, 05:08:09 PM
Isn't his name Willian? The last couple of posts are starting to convince me it's William.
Letís call him willie for continuity sake, would have him hear tho all day
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Polledreng on January 05, 2018, 05:09:12 PM
Normally I wouldn't booh and old player... don't know what I would have done if Lukaku had played following his ear celebration, but Barkley can fuck right off if he signs for Chelsea now for half the Price we would have got for him in the summer. Hope he has enjoyed his last 6 months salary
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 05:14:59 PM
Spurs where never his destination of choice, he would have been taking a pay cut.

It's always been about securing the most money for him. His hamstring going was more of an opportunity for him and Chelsea to make/save some money.

I doubt heíd have been taking a pay cut if heíd gone in the summer.

I also doubt Spurs have allowed themselves to be used as a stalking horse for 18 months by such bitter rivals as Chelsea.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
I doubt heíd have been taking a pay cut if heíd gone in the summer.

I also doubt Spurs have allowed themselves to be used as a stalking horse for 18 months by such bitter rivals as Chelsea.



The maximum Spurs would pay is about £70k a week, so it would be roughly the same or slightly less than he's on now, and a massive pay cut compared to what we offered.
Apparently Chelsea are offering nearly double what spurs have offered, it's about money, not playing under Poch.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
Letís call him willie for continuity sake, would have him hear tho all day




I wouldn't mind him here, but Willie sounds like a little cock. :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on January 05, 2018, 05:38:17 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.

We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 05:49:27 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Lukaku and Stones didn't run down their contract and screw us out of money to earn some extra coin, even if they did  it wouldn't be as bad because they're not boyhood blues.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.
He did get offered a new deal, a very good deal, we've never failed to offer him a deal when he wanted one. It was probably bad timing by the club and should have been made 6 months earlier (as it coincided with the start of a turbulent relationship between Ross and Koeman), but I've not heard that he asked for a new deal before our offer.


We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

I'd argue that Koeman didn't show him much respect in 1 press conference, not the club. The club have tried to bend over backwards for him. Any half decent creative midfielder would have helped up this season.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.

We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

 :wag: feel sorry him? Fuck that. He's been a cunt to maximise his own income and not give a shit about the club. He's wanted to leave for a while but never handed in a transfer request, gets to keep all those loyalty bonuses etc, could have gone to Chelsea in the summer but likely got offered a bigger signing on fee and higher wages to hold off, financially he will be far better off....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2018, 05:52:55 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Barkley, he's not done much wrong other than want to leave and has conducted himself very well. If you try to take the rose tinted glasses off, financially he could have similar terms to stay, but it's a much better opportunity to win trophies in a short career. Lukaku and Stones left to pursue bigger ambitions, it's up to the club to agree terms with other clubs for transfer or match ambitions, the club has done neither.

Has been hanging over the club for over a year now, but we didn't give him a new deal when he wanted one. Koeman pushed him towards the exit, Koeman's exit was opportunity to bring him back in. Hiring Allardyce will not have given any hope of us making improvements in the near future, if anything it's pushed hopes of achieving things back a year or so.

We aren't matching his ambitions as a club, we've not shown him the respect of a key player and if you think we haven't missed him this season, you're watching a different game. He's not going to become a world great, but I can see him working well with Willian, Hazard and Morata and becoming a key player for them. He'll need game time to build relationships and understanding with other key players, but being surrounded by better players and more options will improve his game.

This is a load of BS, Stones and Lukaku were more admirable, they stated they wanted to leave, Barkley has had a contract on the table for 2 years and continually refused to state his desire to leave and didnt until he was entering his last year. Everton have given him whatever he wanted, if he didnt want to stay fine, just have the balls to say it and hand in a transfer request. He is gutless and knew he had no chance of going to a team above where we are unless he ran his contract down to a position where is he relatively cheap, and a steal now. To say he has conducted himself well is farcical imo, unless you're a Chelsea fan that is!!

That said the club should have sold him 2 years ago when he started assing us around!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 05:55:22 PM
He's gone, we've got a few quid and we move on. He's not played for so long people have more or less forgotten about him anyway so let's put the money to good use towards a guy to score us a few goals and focus on how we get this team passing the ball again now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shropshire Blue on January 05, 2018, 05:56:36 PM
The reality is we will probably never get to know all the circumstances.
That's football.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
He's gone, we've got a few quid and we move on. He's not played for so long people have more or less forgotten about him anyway so let's put the money to good use towards a guy to score us a few goals and focus on how we get this team passing the ball again now.
Easy there tiger, this isn't the time for rational thoughts
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tinga on January 05, 2018, 06:31:47 PM
Easy there tiger, this isn't the time for rational thoughts

Fucking hell Jim, just put him in your mouth why don't you.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ridge on January 05, 2018, 06:32:23 PM
Lukaku and Stones didn't run down their contract and screw us out of money to earn some extra coin, even if they did  it wouldn't be as bad because they're not boyhood blues.
He did get offered a new deal, a very good deal, we've never failed to offer him a deal when he wanted one. It was probably bad timing by the club and should have been made 6 months earlier (as it coincided with the start of a turbulent relationship between Ross and Koeman), but I've not heard that he asked for a new deal before our offer.


I'd argue that Koeman didn't show him much respect in 1 press conference, not the club. The club have tried to bend over backwards for him. Any half decent creative midfielder would have helped up this season.

That's what they would have done if we hadn't sold them, all of them wanted to leave, but wanted to play until that happened. Lukaku was talking about it openly for years if we didn't start challenging he was off. Stones and Barkley never said anything publicly, I respect that as a difficult but more respectful position to take. Barkley was going to be sold until he got injured, the club had been putting public pressure on him for months to sign or be sold.

We protected the value in Lukaku's contract like rabid accountants, we would never let that get lower than 2 years, and we spent months getting 99.9999% of the way publicly with Lukaku while Barkley was running down a year lower in the background. The years since Barkley last signed a contract, he had become a far more important player for us and his contract at the moment might not be much more than 40K. All that time we've not seen fit to reward his role in the team financially, he's not going to win trophies this season or next, the good players have left and he's getting dropped and made an example of by Koeman when he has a bad game or doesn't shit golden eggs.

Absolutely it was Koeman more than the club, but the manager becomes the club, he decides how you fit in, your opportunities, the direction of the club. The chairman, the board, the fans and Barkley wanted Barkley to stay, Koeman never rushed to offer him a new deal, he had 2 years left when he came in, he took him for granted and never appeared to rate him. I think Barkley would have potentially stayed after Koeman was sacked, but I don't think Allardyce does anything to change his mind.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bluedylan on January 05, 2018, 06:34:42 PM
What's done is done. I'm not going to call him a rat, and I'm not going to slag the club off for mishandling things, because I genuinely have no clue what's happened.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 05, 2018, 06:37:39 PM
this is depressing :(
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/25VV_TfEqPU/maxresdefault.jpg)

our best creative / attacking player..

so many fond memories of Ross, playing up top with Lukaku and Miralles/Delefeu wasnt 2 long ago that front 3 was fire..

how things change so fast.. as said numerous times by countless posters.. where did it all go wrong ;/
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 05, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
£15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2018, 06:46:54 PM
£15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.

I agree to a certain extent, although its a chicken and egg thing isnt it? If we had a fit squad with those players in it id say we wouldnt be far off the top 4, maybe if they'd have stayed a bit longer things would be different?
We might not have invested like we did without those sales but who knows? I think what is clear as its all about the here and now, no more building for 5 years etc

                             Pickford

Coleman       Keane         Stones         Baines

                   Gueye          Rooney

     Bolasie            Barkley           Sigurdson

                           Lukaku
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2018, 06:47:38 PM
That's what they would have done if we hadn't sold them, all of them wanted to leave, but wanted to play until that happened. Lukaku was talking about it openly for years if we didn't start challenging he was off. Stones and Barkley never said anything publicly, I respect that as a difficult but more respectful position to take. Barkley was going to be sold until he got injured, the club had been putting public pressure on him for months to sign or be sold.

We protected the value in Lukaku's contract like rabid accountants, we would never let that get lower than 2 years, and we spent months getting 99.9999% of the way publicly with Lukaku while Barkley was running down a year lower in the background. The years since Barkley last signed a contract, he had become a far more important player for us and his contract at the moment might not be much more than 40K. All that time we've not seen fit to reward his role in the team financially, he's not going to win trophies this season or next, the good players have left and he's getting dropped and made an example of by Koeman when he has a bad game or doesn't shit golden eggs.

Absolutely it was Koeman more than the club, but the manager becomes the club, he decides how you fit in, your opportunities, the direction of the club. The chairman, the board, the fans and Barkley wanted Barkley to stay, Koeman never rushed to offer him a new deal, he had 2 years left when he came in, he took him for granted and never appeared to rate him. I think Barkley would have potentially stayed after Koeman was sacked, but I don't think Allardyce does anything to change his mind.

Seems like you're just playing devil's advocate.

Stones asked for a transfer request and we didn't sell him, and he still played for us until he got his move.

Koeman and Ross' relationship was blown way out of proportion. Ross was more often than not first name on the team sheet, and actually got the best out of Ross Barkley. He just couldn't deal with a little bit of tough love or minor criticism. The Wayne Rooney's and Steven Gerrards of old had the world on their shoulders at this stage of their careers.

The truth is that the lads soft, incapable of making decisions on the field and off the field and living with the consequences. Be it storming down the tunnel at Wembley because he thought the fans had boo'd him, or getting lamped by a lad half his size for being a cunt.

Let's just face it, he's not as good as we thought he'd be. And this whole thing has been lead by an agent. Ross isn't capable of orchestrating something like this.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
£15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.

Players would only stay if the team was very good regardless of ambitions.

Even with Spurs, who Iím basing that on, Walker has gone, Rose wanted to and weíll see how they do if they finish outside of top 4.

A club can say it wants to do x, y and z but unless itís a current reality top players will leave.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Alanvideo on January 05, 2018, 06:51:11 PM
Everton fan just been on Talksport  , 'Ross is going to that London to be with his fancy friends' Hilarious.   lolol
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tofifee on January 05, 2018, 06:52:18 PM
interesting way of looking at it I found here

https://www.balls.ie/football/ross-barkley-to-chelsea-380676

Implying that Chelski were behind Ross "Pulling out" last summer and that they were the master of puppets all along.....

Would Ross really do that to Everton??
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 05, 2018, 06:53:55 PM
£15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.

You forgot Deulofeu. Different circumstances but another bright talent, now getting game time for fucking Barcelona, we let slip away.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on January 05, 2018, 06:54:20 PM
it's called professional football....

love it or loathe it...it's the way it works nowadays unfortunately....

he looking after his best interests.....like we all would when given the opportunity..

some people will hate him..some people will respect him....some people will have fond memeories ...some wont...

we ALL have to get on with it....

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 06:55:46 PM

Implying that Chelski were behind Ross "Pulling out" last summer and that they were the master of puppets all along.....


That's why I said earlier it's a bit like tapping up. Wouldn't surprise me if the club raise some complaint after the transfer goes through.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 06:56:47 PM
Everton fan just been on Talksport  , 'Ross is going to that London to be with his fancy friends' Hilarious.   lolol

Had me in tears that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on January 05, 2018, 06:57:37 PM
That's why I said earlier it's a bit like tapping up. Wouldn't surprise me if the club raise some complaint after the transfer goes through.
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your having a laff aren't you.....this is everton..

we don't complain...just get pissed on....
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
£15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.

Of course we have the intention we just fall down in reality.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
That's why I said earlier it's a bit like tapping up. Wouldn't surprise me if the club raise some complaint after the transfer goes through.

You mean after agreeing a deal with a player over in Turkey and have him fly to the UK 'on holiday' before we'd even agreed a fee with his parent club?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 05, 2018, 07:02:53 PM
Am I right in saying that we had to pull out of a deal for a striker (I forget his name)at the last minute on transfer deadline day due to him backing out of the Chelsea deal?...if so he has indirectly had a huge negative affect on our team this season without even kicking a ball.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 07:03:16 PM
You mean after agreeing a deal with a player over in Turkey and have him fly to the UK 'on holiday' before we'd even agreed a fee with his parent club?

There's no suggestion we asked him to fly over, the Turkish league isn't playing and his agent probably advised him to do so, just incase the deal goes through.

I think if Chelsea have promoted the idea to Ross when he was last in discussions with them (him waiting a bit and getting a better deal so they can save money on the fee), then it probably does warrant some kind of investigation, as it appears Ross was always going to move there.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 07:04:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/949263656843440128
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 05, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
Draw a line and move on. Analysing it to death doesn't change shit.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: fubarruk on January 05, 2018, 07:15:43 PM
Fuck him, tell Chelsea to stick their £15m, let him rot in the reserves and miss his opportunity at World Cup, he cost us £20m let's do our best to cost his career...

P.S I know this isn't feesable but can't help feel he's done us over and it makes me angry
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 05, 2018, 07:16:02 PM
You forgot Deulofeu. Different circumstances but another bright talent, now getting game time for fucking Barcelona, we let slip away.

We had no choice with Deulofeu, he had a buy back clause and they only got him so they could sell him on at a profit, he also only been used as a sub for 9 times and by all accounts has been average at best
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 05, 2018, 07:23:02 PM
We had no choice with Deulofeu, he had a buy back clause and they only got him so they could sell him on at a profit, he also only been used as a sub for 9 times and by all accounts has been average at best

All true but Koeman wanted rid.

Hard to say what couldíve been with him with better management and attitude, but in his first spell here and then particularly when he first signed, he looked like he might turn into a proper elite player.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tofifee on January 05, 2018, 07:24:26 PM
Your also forgetting that for the last 6 months of his career here he was utter gash
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 07:26:47 PM
All true but Koeman wanted rid.

Hard to say what could’ve been with him with better management and attitude, but in his first spell here and then particularly when he first signed, he looked like he might turn into a proper elite player.

He was shite in about 98% of the time he was on the pitch. Its just that people focus on the 2%.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 05, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
He was shite in about 98% of the time he was on the pitch. Its just that people focus on the 2%.

Look the point is that everything has gone to shit and the worldís caving in so let me fucking stew in my misery on this.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: TSGun on January 05, 2018, 07:33:55 PM
As much as I've had some rather strange and disturbing feelings for Barkley at different times c'est la vie.

It's a measure of a club how well it absorbs and moves on from such disappointments.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 07:34:15 PM
Oh well. Chelsea bought him because he was cheap and is also still in the frame for playing some top football. Unless we start winning things soon, the youngsters we have here now will be gone ' for a new challenge', too.




https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/900591/Chelsea-Antonio-Conte-CONFIRMS-Ross-Barkley-Everton
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
Oh well. Chelsea bought him because he was cheap and is also still in the frame for playing some top football. Unless we start winning things soon, the youngsters we have here now will be gone ' for a new challenge', too.




https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/900591/Chelsea-Antonio-Conte-CONFIRMS-Ross-Barkley-Everton

As we should expect they will. If Holgate and others want to win silverware it's probably not going to be with us, certainly in the short term anyway. A holding appointment of Allardyce for any more than 6 months will only reaffirm that sadly.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 05, 2018, 08:22:47 PM
Never thought Iíd say this as his #1 fan but:

Ross you cunt, you cost us £20m coz your arse twitched late last August. You cunt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ravardo on January 05, 2018, 08:26:06 PM
Hopefully after this shit turn out the club has learnt they need to add a clause into all the contracts which enables the club to trigger  an extra year extension
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 05, 2018, 08:45:09 PM
Do we reckon heís getting much game time at Chelsea then?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 05, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
Ross Barkley votes Tory pass it on.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 05, 2018, 08:50:59 PM
Never thought Iíd say this as his #1 fan but:

Ross you cunt, you cost us £20m coz your arse twitched late last August. You cunt.

I reckon he was advised to wait because Chelsea get him cheaper and gets more coin... yeah, he's a cunt for shitting on us if that was/is the case.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
Seriously should be asking Chelsea for one of their players on loan here, its fucking ridiculous if we don't
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 05, 2018, 08:55:09 PM
Seriously should be asking Chelsea for one of their players on loan here, its fucking ridiculous if we don't

agree.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Do we reckon heís getting much game time at Chelsea then?

Not this season, he's pretty much up against Hazard, Fabregas, Willian, Pedro for 2 attacking mid positions
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Faceatthefence on January 05, 2018, 09:24:33 PM
Total mystery surrounds that initial move in summer,for me i reckon he did have part of the medical and somethings shown up.No way did Conte having his phone off wreck that deal thats fantasy,our club have spent 5 months putting that right and weve been mugged.Shame on the player if that is the case,but i really dont buy any other alternative.Thanks a (20) milion Ross.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 05, 2018, 09:24:44 PM
Of course we have the intention we just fall down in reality.

Apologies if I'm wrong, but didn't we fail to meet Ross's salary demands?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lxxx on January 05, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
Apologies if I'm wrong, but didn't we fail to meet Ross's salary demands?

We're paying absolute wasters like Schneiderlin, Sandro and Klaassan over £100k/week. I'm sure we'd have met Ross's salary demands if he gave us any inclination he'd sign if it was on the table.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MexicanToffee on January 05, 2018, 09:30:59 PM
Seems like you're just playing devil's advocate.

Stones asked for a transfer request and we didn't sell him, and he still played for us until he got his move.

Koeman and Ross' relationship was blown way out of proportion. Ross was more often than not first name on the team sheet, and actually got the best out of Ross Barkley. He just couldn't deal with a little bit of tough love or minor criticism. The Wayne Rooney's and Steven Gerrards of old had the world on their shoulders at this stage of their careers.

The truth is that the lads soft, incapable of making decisions on the field and off the field and living with the consequences. Be it storming down the tunnel at Wembley because he thought the fans had boo'd him, or getting lamped by a lad half his size for being a cunt.

Let's just face it, he's not as good as we thought he'd be. And this whole thing has been lead by an agent. Ross isn't capable of orchestrating something like this.

In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bwana on January 05, 2018, 09:34:02 PM
Fabregas has 1,5 years left in his contract, so maybe after that Ross will get some game time. Or maybe not. His decision making took forever and I doubt it's gotten better without game time. Let's face it: He had a bright future ahead of him but it never materialised with us, and it was already showing that his footballing brain had reached it's peak. Maybe in Chelsea, where guys around him have a bit more talent than our roster had during Ross' time here he has more options to pass to even by the laws of averages.

Not going to miss him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Everton Mint on January 05, 2018, 09:38:40 PM
Nice one Ross... you just cost us £20m and another 6 months wages while we got you fit.

He'll never do anything at Chelsea or anywhere else. Everton was his home and best chance of a great career and he blew it.

Ross Barkley, the new Jack Rodwell.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 05, 2018, 09:41:31 PM
Oh well... not like it's a surprise is it. And it's not like we're gonna suddenly get worse after he's gone, we've played half a season without him.

It's true that we'd be a better side with him fit and in it, but he doesn't want to be here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: formerKHL on January 05, 2018, 09:43:18 PM
gotta say this...
sometimes reading posts on here I realise why we're called "bitter blues" by our neighbours across the park...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 05, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
Total mystery surrounds that initial move in summer,for me i reckon he did have part of the medical and somethings shown up.No way did Conte having his phone off wreck that deal thats fantasy,our club have spent 5 months putting that right and weve been mugged.Shame on the player if that is the case,but i really dont buy any other alternative.Thanks a (20) milion Ross.

Why would they buy an injured player in the summer when they could wait save wages, more than half the fee and get the fitter version now. They got to talk to a player they otherwise wouldn't have been able to by agreeing the fee. Maybe it was never intended to go through then. Got a jump on Spurs and it cost them nowt to do it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tinga on January 05, 2018, 09:50:52 PM
gotta say this...
sometimes reading posts on here I realise why we're called "bitter blues" by our neighbours across the park...

Shut up. Should we just sit on our hands and not call the lad the snake that he is?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Hawkandro on January 05, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
Gonna smash the Dutch league at Vitesse Arnhem next season.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on January 05, 2018, 09:55:05 PM
Seriously should be asking Chelsea for one of their players on loan here, its fucking ridiculous if we don't
No harm in asking I guess. They donít have to say yes because weíre losing out.

You win some you lose some. We won regarding Lukaku we lost with Barkley.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:09:41 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, Iíve got two sons of 16 and 12. Both canít be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation arenít as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I donít blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho arenít we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 10:13:09 PM
Gonna smash the Dutch league at Vitesse Arnhem next season.

That would be funny.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 05, 2018, 10:13:38 PM
gotta say this...
sometimes reading posts on here I realise why we're called "bitter blues" by our neighbours across the park...

I very bitter about this. And rightly so.

If youre not aggrieved then somethingís amiss.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 10:14:41 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, Iíve got two sons of 16 and 12. Both canít be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation arenít as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I donít blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho arenít we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment

Nice positive first post back
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on January 05, 2018, 10:21:27 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, Iíve got two sons of 16 and 12. Both canít be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation arenít as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I donít blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho arenít we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment

Sounds like you brought up a pair of boys who ain't got the stomach for a fight in life.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Faceatthefence on January 05, 2018, 10:21:40 PM
Why would they buy an injured player in the summer when they could wait save wages, more than half the fee and get the fitter version now. They got to talk to a player they otherwise wouldn't have been able to by agreeing the fee. Maybe it was never intended to go through then. Got a jump on Spurs and it cost them nowt to do it.
Wouldnt want us to buy an injured player,so a degree of honesty an integrity would have made things more palatable.Maybe the two sides have had a sort of pre-nup,who knows.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: plumber on January 05, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, Iíve got two sons of 16 and 12. Both canít be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation arenít as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I donít blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho arenít we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment

What a load of crap.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Nice positive first post back

Oh here we go on the negative/positive bullshit. We have known for ages we needed a striker but somehow we still havenít announced Tosun.  I hope it does come good for our sake. Why do we seem to be so incompetent as a club to get the player in quickly, just disappointed and itís a recurring theme
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 05, 2018, 10:24:46 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, Iíve got two sons of 16 and 12. Both canít be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation arenít as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I donít blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho arenít we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment

Bollocks. Just cos your lads cant be arsed doesnt mean there arent loads of youngsters bleeding blue.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
Sounds like you brought up a pair of boys who ain't got the stomach for a fight in life.

Oh so bringing them up to think mediocrity is acceptable is the way to go
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
Bollocks. Just cos your lads cant be arsed doesnt mean there arent loads of youngsters bleeding blue.

Bleeding blue, get a grip! Itís a business that makes money like any other business does. The sooner the fans wake up and hold the club accountable the better
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on January 05, 2018, 10:30:44 PM
Mediocrity should be tattoed on your forehead.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 05, 2018, 10:30:59 PM

Bleeding blue, get a grip! Itís a business that makes money like any other business does. The sooner the fans wake up and hold the club accountable the better

Naaaa if we think of it like a business, then whats the point. Sterile shite that is.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
To clarify; itís only the running down of his contract that Iíve got an issue with. I donít blame a player for wanting to better themselves.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 05, 2018, 10:31:16 PM

Bleeding blue, get a grip! Itís a business that makes money like any other business does. The sooner the fans wake up and hold the club accountable the better

How do you suggest we hold the club accountable?

Like, specifically.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: loroloco on January 05, 2018, 10:34:33 PM
from a footballing point of view thereīs no big deal really imo. for example, on his day, sturridge is one of the best strikers around but if heīs in his jeans in the stand, as he is most times then he may as well not be there. ross has had injury after injury and been in and out of form his whole career. heīs good on his day but his days are few and far between. hasnīt played for us in months and has only been costing the club money.
from a fans point of view though, FUCK HIM. heīll regret it. not about him leaving but the manner in which he left will be something he and his family are gonna have to live with. heīs gonna get some serious abuse over this and i honestly donīt think it will ever be forgiven or forgotten.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on January 05, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
Oh so bringing them up to think mediocrity is acceptable is the way to go

No, but life isn't all fucking champagne and skittles. Too many kids give up on things because they are hard or not as rewarding as they first hoped. They just going to walk away from their first challenge in life, because that's going to stand them well in later life. They need to toughen up
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 10:35:12 PM
Koeman got slated for saying Ross has talent but needs to improve and be more consistent.

Conte just said Ross has talent and has huge potential to improve.

Whatís the difference?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on January 05, 2018, 10:36:33 PM
Koeman got slated for saying Ross has talent but needs to improve and be more consistent.

Conte just said Ross has talent and has huge potential to improve.

Whatís the difference?

One was a dour Dutchman the other a successful Italian
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
Koeman got slated for saying Ross has talent but needs to improve and be more consistent.

Conte just said Ross has talent and has huge potential to improve.

Whatís the difference?

Chelsea are in the champions league, we aren't.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:40:26 PM
Naaaa if we think of it like a business, then whats the point. Sterile shite that is.

It is what it is, if I pay money to a business I would at least expect it to be ran accordingly and maybe that way it would filter down onto the pitch that where we are and have been for the last 20+ years isnít acceptable, to me it isnít anyway. You might enjoy the way we sell our best players without replacing them. Also when we do eventually sign players it takes a lot longer than most clubs to get it over the line. How we accept managers being below average for far to long until real damage has been done and then we go and sign a relegation battling manager. We havenít improved since Moyes, we have gone backwards. The clubs a joke
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 05, 2018, 10:44:54 PM
What's done is done. I'm not going to call him a rat, and I'm not going to slag the club off for mishandling things, because I genuinely have no clue what's happened.

from what ive been told, his mrs is a sister of a / some ganxtas, he got involved with the wrong folk., he loves Everton still, but they are forcing him out of town..

but i have no idea how real that is, kinda makes sense from how the managers we have had have spoken about him...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 10:48:14 PM
No, but life isn't all fucking champagne and skittles. Too many kids give up on things because they are hard or not as rewarding as they first hoped. They just going to walk away from their first challenge in life, because that's going to stand them well in later life. They need to toughen up

Come on, we have been shite for over 20 years. Even when we were really shite fighting relegation we had fight. We ainít even got that now, Park the bus shithouse tactics. Kids have overcome plenty of obstacles in there short time here so you will be glad to know that itís nothing to do with fight. Itís to do with them not being fulfilled on a continuous basis by a club that seems to be going backwards
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 10:55:42 PM
Good news blues, its 15 million plus add-ons

Gerrin
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 10:56:19 PM
Whenever a scouse lad leaves its always gangsters
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 05, 2018, 10:56:38 PM
Good news blues, its 15 million plus add-ons

Gerrin

£10m when he wins the Ballon d'Or?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: boothill on January 05, 2018, 10:57:14 PM
The club is useless from top to bottom. Honestly, I've got two sons of 16 and 12. Both can't be bothered even watching Everton anymore. The youngest has said he cba watching the game tonight coz we will get smashed. The club will be obsolete in a few more years coz the next generation aren't as hoodwinked as the rest of us. I don't blame Barkley for moving on, he was publicly slated by an incompetent manager that should never of got the job. Everton tho aren't we, born not manufactured, peoples club , we are an embarrassment
you made a point there about your lads not being bothered about going the game, and i think its a valid 1 . When i cant get there i offer my ticket to my lad, he says he cba too, his mates dont want it either. i cant remember seeing many under 21s (approx age) at the game for a while now. Would be interesting to find out how many 21 and under are at the game and what percentage have bought the ticket themselves, because going the match does seem to be losing its buzz for some next generation fans
It is what it is, if I pay money to a business I would at least expect it to be ran accordingly and maybe that way it would filter down onto the pitch that where we are and have been for the last 20+ years isn't acceptable, to me it isn't anyway. You might enjoy the way we sell our best players without replacing them. Also when we do eventually sign players it takes a lot longer than most clubs to get it over the line. How we accept managers being below average for far to long until real damage has been done and then we go and sign a relegation battling manager. We haven't improved since Moyes, we have gone backwards. The clubs a joke
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Trublue on January 05, 2018, 11:00:06 PM

Come on, we have been shite for over 20 years. Even when we were really shite fighting relegation we had fight. We ainít even got that now, Park the bus shithouse tactics. Kids have overcome plenty of obstacles in there short time here so you will be glad to know that itís nothing to do with fight. Itís to do with them not being fulfilled on a continuous basis by a club that seems to be going backwards

We've actually been finish for 30 years. We've had the odd decent season and the cup win, but that's it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 11:00:32 PM
Kind of get the point that young lads not going the game. I stopped at 18 but that was cos I was playing. When I stopped I renewed.
Id imagine there's a few out there the same as me
Sadly tho as well, the teenage generation now are very much want it now, unsociable bunch.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
He's gone then.



http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/05/barkley
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 05, 2018, 11:02:43 PM

Come on, we have been shite for over 20 years. Even when we were really shite fighting relegation we had fight. We ainít even got that now, Park the bus shithouse tactics. Kids have overcome plenty of obstacles in there short time here so you will be glad to know that itís nothing to do with fight. Itís to do with them not being fulfilled on a continuous basis by a club that seems to be going backwards

We all say we've been shite for 20 years but the reality is we really haven't. Been in the top league all that time. Been in the top half of that league probably for half of it

Obviously Everton is a lot of disappointment. We all want to win and play Barcelona style football. As fans though we are a hell of a lot luckier than most.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: boothill on January 05, 2018, 11:02:50 PM
from what ive been told, his mrs is a sister of a / some ganxtas, he got involved with the wrong folk., he loves Everton still, but they are forcing him out of town..

but i have no idea how real that is, kinda makes sense from how the managers we have had have spoken about him...
van den hauwe all over again ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on January 05, 2018, 11:03:42 PM
Done deal, he's gone to Chelsea.

We can certainly sell a player quickly enough when we want to.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on January 05, 2018, 11:05:40 PM
Done deal, he's gone to Chelsea.

We can certainly sell a player quickly enough when we want to.

Should have gone in August for £35 million and used their treatment room and rehab facilities, we should send him a bill for 5 months treatment !
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Brownie on January 05, 2018, 11:07:20 PM
Good bye Ross. That is all
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 11:07:46 PM
Massive grin on his face signing the contract
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Nicco on January 05, 2018, 11:08:17 PM
Should have gone in August for £35 million and used their treatment room and rehab facilities, we should send him a bill for 5 months treatment !
Agree.
Fucking shite behaviour.

This whole saga is a fucking disgrace from a boyhood blue. Ross fucking who?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
Done deal, he's gone to Chelsea.

We can certainly sell a player quickly enough when we want to.


Or players going or more eager to sign their new deals ;)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 11:11:32 PM
from what ive been told, his mrs is a sister of a / some ganxtas, he got involved with the wrong folk., he loves Everton still, but they are forcing him out of town..

but i have no idea how real that is, kinda makes sense from how the managers we have had have spoken about him...

So did Ross get a 4 month stay of execution then because his transfer fell through in August ?
Sorry if that comes across as flippant or doubting your sources, but it does sound a little far fetched.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 05, 2018, 11:12:41 PM
£10m when he wins the Ballon d'Or?
He might win the best balloon award.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 11:12:51 PM
Its a real shame . There is a quality player in there but I am not sure he can handle the expectation . Time will tell . Bye .

One was a successful Dutchman, the other was involved in match-fixing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 11:14:15 PM
I hope he breaks is legs and never plays again. If that makes me a cunt, Iím a cunt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 05, 2018, 11:15:46 PM
I hope he breaks is legs and never plays again. If that makes me a cunt, Iím a cunt.
You are a cunt wishing that on anyone.
Title: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 05, 2018, 11:17:43 PM
You are a cunt wishing that on anyone.
Yes. I am a cunt. I've done some fucking terrible, terrible things in my life. But Jesus forgave me.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 05, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
Massive grin on his face signing the contract

You watch now just like Stones straight in the England team. Hope he's still smiling while he's collecting splinters in his arse on their bench. Know that sounds bitter but Christ Chelsea have a Shitfull of class midfielders. As a sidenote,nice to know Rossy wasn't addressing Everton fans now on his intramural account, with the # I'm back and Nearly there shite.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
Tbf they only have fabregas as an attacking CM.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Martip on January 05, 2018, 11:19:34 PM
Should have gone in August for £35 million and used their treatment room and rehab facilities, we should send him a bill for 5 months treatment !
Truest says I read in a while !
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 11:19:48 PM
No sugar coating this at all, hes fucked us over massively here, absolute cunt.

Got no problem at all with players leaving to better themselves, but to do what hea done is unforgivable, done us out of 20 million, plus his wages, used our facilities to get fit and fucks off
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: therealdunc on January 05, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
Relax lads, he didnít have a footballing brain and thatís one thing which is very difficult to teach and more so to learn.

He will be out on loan to the likes of a West Brom next season
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 11:20:18 PM
Wish I had the quote of the chopper who said he'd end up at Newcastle or Swansea, that's his standard

He's gone now, we need to move on and sign someone who has similar attributes only better. Shouldn't be hard according to plenty on here
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 05, 2018, 11:20:47 PM
You watch now just like Stones straight in the England team. Hope he's still smiling while he's collecting splinters in his arse on their bench. Know that sounds bitter but Christ Chelsea have a Shattuck of class midfielders.

He has to play better than Drinkwater and Fabregas....

I believe Fabregas deal is up at the end of next season.

He's gonna play.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 05, 2018, 11:22:33 PM
Nice of us to let Chelsea tickle our bellies as well isn't it, must be laughing their cockney cocks off at this.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ih8redshite on January 05, 2018, 11:22:38 PM
I wish him all the best, we fucked up and he left for a steal. Same old, plus heís been announced as a Chelsea player and we still ainít signed Cenk 🤯🤯
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 11:23:48 PM
Biggest issue for him is his drive to really do something in a game.

Noticed he mentioned scoring more goals but if you compare Rooneyís runs from deep, where he doesnít look like a 32 yo to Ross not really doing that and its a massive difference.

But the idea that heís miles off them technically/skill etc is wrong.

Such a disappointment.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 05, 2018, 11:31:15 PM
Wish I had the quote of the chopper who said he'd end up at Newcastle or Swansea, that's his standard

He's gone now, we need to move on and sign someone who has similar attributes only better. Shouldn't be hard according to plenty on here

I think Chelsea being willing to take a punt at 15m is a bit different to him actually being Chelsea quality. He's a risk free gamble. Not saying he won't do well. Time will tell. Let's see where he is in 2 or 3 years though
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GLewis on January 05, 2018, 11:32:13 PM
Joe Anderson...

https://mobile.twitter.com/mayor_anderson/status/949331059367448577
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: pjk on January 05, 2018, 11:34:26 PM
Joe Anderson's having a massive wobbler on twitter. lolol
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Trowel on January 05, 2018, 11:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/james_corbett/status/949333214719492096
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 05, 2018, 11:38:02 PM
I think Chelsea being willing to take a punt at 15m is a bit different to him actually being Chelsea quality. He's a risk free gamble. Not saying he won't do well. Time will tell. Let's see where he is in 2 or 3 years though

They were prepared to pay £35m in the summer before the realised how bad his hamstring was.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: boothill on January 05, 2018, 11:38:29 PM
Kind of get the point that young lads not going the game. I stopped at 18 but that was cos I was playing. When I stopped I renewed.
Id imagine there's a few out there the same as me
Sadly tho as well, the teenage generation now are very much want it now, unsociable bunch.
Totally get that, but i would only ever play for Saturday morning teams because all that seemed to matter to a lot of us through the late 70s, 80, and 90s was getting the game at goodison or the odd away game, it was a brilliant feeling going the game then, the atmosphere, a social gathering,  and we were shite then for most of it apart from a purple patch mid 80s, since this premiership started the magic has almost gone, its all about money now and what they can screw out of you . it does seem a chore to go these days, so i can totally understand the youngens not being attracted to it now
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 05, 2018, 11:39:34 PM
Joe Anderson...

https://mobile.twitter.com/mayor_anderson/status/949331059367448577

Good luck with that Joe.

And good luck in that London, Ross, there be werewolves, lad.  Aaoooooo!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Escla on January 05, 2018, 11:39:45 PM
Joe Anderson...

https://mobile.twitter.com/mayor_anderson/status/949331059367448577

Good on Joe, this stinks to high heaven !
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 11:40:02 PM
Totally get that, but i would only ever play for Saturday morning teams because all that seemed to matter to a lot of us through the late 70s, 80, and 90s was getting the game at goodison or the odd away game, it was a brilliant feeling going the game then, the atmosphere, a social gathering,  and we were shite then for most of it apart from a purple patch mid 80s, since this premiership started the magic has almost gone, its all about money now and what they can screw out of you . it does seem a chore to go these days, so i can totally understand the youngens not being attracted to it now
Is there still Saturday morning leagues? Non round here like

Plus, lads are earning between 50 and 120 a week round here to play at average levels  so I get why they'd do that
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: mikey_blue on January 05, 2018, 11:41:21 PM
I think he'll stay, me.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 05, 2018, 11:43:03 PM
They were prepared to pay £35m in the summer before the realised how bad his hamstring was.

Come on @Ross (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) you know as well as anyone it was RB who pulled the plug on the move, not Chelsea. RB even said it on his twitter.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tinga on January 05, 2018, 11:45:16 PM
Break a leg mate.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: ally2 on January 05, 2018, 11:46:05 PM
So Ross's mummy gave him permission to leave then
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Confucius on January 05, 2018, 11:48:14 PM
24, Such a shame. Sad day today.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: boothill on January 05, 2018, 11:49:11 PM
Is there still Saturday morning leagues? Non round here like

Plus, lads are earning between 50 and 120 a week round here to play at average levels  so I get why they'd do that
Dunno if there are any leagues around now tbh jim, i finished 10 years ago and there was only a few then, i zingari and the old boys, used to be at least a dozen in the 80s and 90s. 30 quid for a nite in pub having a sesh watching game on tv or 30 quid for match ticket, they dont get much of an option like
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 05, 2018, 11:49:52 PM
Walsh gone now too
And not the shit scout, Liam Walsh
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 05, 2018, 11:51:14 PM
Come on @Ross (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) you know as well as anyone it was RB who pulled the plug on the move, not Chelsea. RB even said it on his twitter.

Is that the twitter posts his agent wrote for him?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Tinga on January 05, 2018, 11:51:35 PM
https://twitter.com/mayor_anderson/status/949331059367448577

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: kramer0 on January 05, 2018, 11:55:54 PM
Walsh gone now too
And not the shit scout, Liam Walsh

 :(

I think Liam Walsh has a really interesting skill set. I wouldn't be giving up on him so soon.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Silas on January 05, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
Now he's gone I hope he Jack Rodwell's it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 06, 2018, 12:00:49 AM
https://twitter.com/james_corbett/status/949333214719492096

A dog rejected from a Crufts could run rings round Everton
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 06, 2018, 12:01:04 AM
:(

I think Liam Walsh has a really interesting skill set. I wouldn't be giving up on him so soon.
Bristol City
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Polledreng on January 06, 2018, 12:01:40 AM
Now he's gone I hope he Jack Rodwell's it
I would prefer he did a Jeffers.... Serious I think it will be one of those and not a new Rooney
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blob on January 06, 2018, 12:03:16 AM
confirmed. shame.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 06, 2018, 12:03:23 AM
Joe Anderson embarrassing himself again the daft twat
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: sirblue57 on January 06, 2018, 12:04:33 AM
He's gone. He seems well happy..ergo, he is a snidey spineless cunt. Close thread.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on January 06, 2018, 12:04:35 AM
I say good luck to him. Almost certainly the right move for him. Might even get a few medals along the way.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blargins on January 06, 2018, 12:05:22 AM
https://twitter.com/mayor_anderson/status/949331059367448577



Why? What's it got to do with him?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ross on January 06, 2018, 12:08:19 AM
Why? What's it got to do with him?

Looks good to half the electorate.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 06, 2018, 12:09:59 AM
Pathetic from everton to let it get to this stage were we're letting players run down contracts. Get it sorted or get rid when you get the chance. Secondly Ross Barkley is a shithouse
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 06, 2018, 12:11:18 AM
Is there still Saturday morning leagues? Non round here like

Plus, lads are earning between 50 and 120 a week round here to play at average levels  so I get why they'd do that

Plenty by me, two i could play in that feed into a decent level of football too. It still exists!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Waltzer on January 06, 2018, 12:12:29 AM
I get the feeling from Conte he doesn't really want him, keeps going on about how the club saw him as a good investment, didn't strike me as being overly keen?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Polledreng on January 06, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
I say good luck to him. Almost certainly the right move for him. Might even get a few medals along the way.
yeaah I can see him join this elite  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2060588-richard-wright-and-the-6-least-deserving-premier-league-winners   
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 12:19:34 AM
Felt sick seeing him in Chelsea gear.

Really disappointing it came to this.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Simon Paul on January 06, 2018, 12:22:04 AM
Hope he becomes the next Frank Lampard

Gutted it's come to this but the club was in a state when this was decided thanks to Koeman and Moshiri basically closed the door in aiugust live on sky sports news

Good luck to the lad
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 06, 2018, 12:26:47 AM
See the wums on here are loving this
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blob on January 06, 2018, 12:31:38 AM
doubt he'll see a lot of first team action, but good luck to him anyway...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 06, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
Everyone needs to stop being the bigger man wishing him well in the future. Grow up and demand tom davies hits him with one of his shithouse challenges
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 06, 2018, 12:32:45 AM
Still think there is more to it, on top of greed!
Most lads (which is still what he is) would just be happy playing for their boyhood club. I know itís easy to say but itís not all about money, itís not like he was on shit wages. He could have developed and grown with the club and been an icon in years to come.
Ah well, in my eyes itís his loss, wrong move for both him and the club.

Better to have loved and lost than to have not loved at all I suppose.

Gutted !!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: kramer0 on January 06, 2018, 12:34:01 AM
Bristol City

At least it's a good move for him.

Still very disappointed.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 12:36:10 AM
A dog rejected from a Crufts could run rings round Everton

Think we've been done by barkley his agent and Chelsea something on a par with what gosling and his agent pulled. We are just a bit daft
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on January 06, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
I just donít get it whatís the loss he had 1 good half against Newcastle the rest was slow in the head please tell me what I missed and by the way Iíve watched us since the early 80s
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: gizzblue on January 06, 2018, 12:36:46 AM
Ross ran scared south cos he was shagging a drug dealers bird (the book will tell all)...the warning was him getting laid out by a fellow rat .

Say hello to your new buddy drinkwater ...he will be the one next to you on the bench till your both loaned out next window 👍..cunt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 12:37:48 AM
Pathetic from everton to let it get to this stage were we're letting players run down contracts. Get it sorted or get rid when you get the chance. Secondly Ross Barkley is a shithouse

On the bright side we had the wisdom to tie mirallas to a contract he can't justify and so can now pay him for years to do nowt
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
Hope he becomes the next Frank Lampard

Gutted it's come to this but the club was in a state when this was decided thanks to Koeman and Moshiri basically closed the door in aiugust live on sky sports news

Good luck to the lad

Why would you hope a rival had another great player. Even if you have no issue with what he's done we don't want everyone else getting better surely
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 06, 2018, 12:43:27 AM
The money argument doesnt wash with me. There's no chance chelsea will be paying him anything we would have matched.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on January 06, 2018, 12:43:38 AM
Why would you hope a rival had another great player. Even if you have no issue with what he's done we don't want everyone else getting better surely
Let it go lads heís a Fukin divie who had the world and blew it melt
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 06, 2018, 12:44:50 AM
Ross ran scared south cos he was shagging a drug dealers bird (the book will tell all)...the warning was him getting laid out by a fellow rat .

Say hello to your new buddy drinkwater ...he will be the one next to you on the bench till your both loaned out next window 👍..cunt.
Any hole a goal in your 20s,... the hole in a blue tit box used to come in dead handy at home at that age, having a small cock helped as well..
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Martip on January 06, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
Hope he becomes the next Frank Lampard

Gutted it's come to this but the club was in a state when this was decided thanks to Koeman and Moshiri basically closed the door in aiugust live on sky sports news

Good luck to the lad
Tbf I hope he breaks his leg after getting run over by the drug dealers allegedly chasing him.

The whole wounded sole act doesnt wash with me....hes treated the club who he confessed to love with utter contempt and left under a cloud to fill his pocket further....cunt.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 06, 2018, 12:48:08 AM
Hope he becomes the next Frank Lampard

Gutted it's come to this but the club was in a state when this was decided thanks to Koeman and Moshiri basically closed the door in aiugust live on sky sports news

Good luck to the lad

He's a rat and so is his agent who have played Everton football club and its fans like a fiddle.
And i for one won't be wishing him well at all.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 12:49:03 AM
Let it go lads heís a Fukin divie who had the world and blew it melt

Did you mean to quote me. I don't wish him all the best. I hope a lion eats him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Simon Paul on January 06, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
Why would you hope a rival had another great player. Even if you have no issue with what he's done we don't want everyone else getting better surely

Because he's a blue and by all accounts a nice - if a bit of a footballer - lad
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 01:05:26 AM
Because he's a blue and by all accounts a nice - if a bit of a footballer - lad

Haha cos he's nice. Who cares. I want to be better than chelsea. Hope all their signings fail even the nice ones who are bang into puppies
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blueToffee on January 06, 2018, 01:05:50 AM
I just donít get it whatís the loss he had 1 good half against Newcastle the rest was slow in the head please tell me what I missed and by the way Iíve watched us since the early 80s

He's terrible, ergo he got a move to Chelsea. The PL Champions.

Let it go lads heís a Fukin divie who had the world and blew it melt

See the above.

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As an aside, I've no problem with people not liking him as a player, but the hyperbole is a bit silly.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bally on January 06, 2018, 01:07:57 AM
More gutted with Liam Walsh going to Bristol if I'm honest
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Goaljira on January 06, 2018, 01:10:41 AM
More gutted with Liam Walsh going to Bristol if I'm honest

Ross has effectively been gone since Sept 1st for me.  Its not new news to fume at, and the £15m is more than i thought we'd get as i expected him to sit out the season and go on a free.

Would have been nice to see Walsh get even a couple of games.  Hopefully we've included a buy back option or something.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Simon Paul on January 06, 2018, 01:20:46 AM
Haha cos he's nice. Who cares. I want to be better than chelsea. Hope all their signings fail even the nice ones who are bang into puppies

Yeah but let's face it, anything you say is babba anyway so nobody's arsed
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 06, 2018, 01:23:01 AM
So did Ross get a 4 month stay of execution then because his transfer fell through in August ?
Sorry if that comes across as flippant or doubting your sources, but it does sound a little far fetched.

I have no idea, apart from he had to get out of Liverpool.


plenty of liverpool peeps on this board.. has anyone heard anything? my nephew goes to uni in liverpool, thats what he was told by a reliable source... he didnt tell me who the person was but he said they knew Barkleys mrs.. just did a quick google thing.. this is the only story that mentions it.. wish id seen this before! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ross-barkley-wasnt-flirting-woman-10237618

Quote
Notorious gangster Sam Walker, who has previously threatened to end Barkleyís career, had claimed the player was ďtrying the blag the ladís birdĒ before he was punched.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eugene on January 06, 2018, 01:25:06 AM
He's terrible, ergo he got a move to Chelsea. The PL Champions.

See the above.

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As an aside, I've no problem with people not liking him as a player, but the hyperbole is a bit silly.
I donít get wrapped up in this emotional crap at the end of the day he wasnít as good as the lids thought he was,really quite average and make no mistake we have never missed his slow fuckin football brain,
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 06, 2018, 01:27:51 AM
If he turns out to be brilliant at Chelsea it will say so much about our coaching staff. I don't think he will because he's got the skills but not the brain to maximise them.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: BlueWool on January 06, 2018, 01:43:20 AM
Fuck him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 01:47:13 AM
I have no idea, apart from he had to get out of Liverpool.


plenty of liverpool peeps on this board.. has anyone heard anything? my nephew goes to uni in liverpool, thats what he was told by a reliable source... he didnt tell me who the person was but he said they knew Barkleys mrs.. just did a quick google thing.. this is the only story that mentions it.. wish id seen this before! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ross-barkley-wasnt-flirting-woman-10237618


Give over, absolute bollocks.

He was pissed off at the former manager and the club, so he decided to have the last laugh and fuck off on the cheap.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 06, 2018, 01:51:24 AM
The Corleone family said "Ross move to Chelsea or we will keel your hamster" OR total all round Everton fc fuck up?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Robber Rodwell on January 06, 2018, 02:56:07 AM
Good luck to the lad.  Not an easy choice choosing between the coaching of Conte or Big Sam.  Also playing a one-two with Hazard doesnít have the same effect as playing with Morgan and company.

Just add this crap to the Koeman effect, who wrote Ross off and left a bad taste in the lads mouth.

Hope big orange Ron never manages again.  Has the fee being confirmed because 15 million is peanuts in todayís market.

Should have let him sit on the subs bench until his contract expired.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Ari on January 06, 2018, 02:59:40 AM
Did Everton put in a sell on clause?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 06, 2018, 03:57:07 AM
Pathetic from everton to let it get to this stage were we're letting players run down contracts. Get it sorted or get rid when you get the chance. Secondly Ross Barkley is a shithouse
It was pretty obvious we tried on both counts. Players have all the power.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 06, 2018, 04:11:10 AM
Are gangsters unable to find London?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Stumpy on January 06, 2018, 04:18:32 AM
Pathetic from everton to let it get to this stage were we're letting players run down contracts. Get it sorted or get rid when you get the chance. Secondly Ross Barkley is a shithouse

Saddly,there's nothing you can do about it.If they are determined to run their contract down just standby and watch helplessly,you can't force him to go to other clubs.Unfortunatly these greedy bastards,players and agents(sorry parasites)hold all the cards.Sol Campbell started this when he had Spurs over after repeatidly promising he would sign a new deal,in the end he walked into their biggest rivals for not a single penny and thus set the tone.There is no such thing as loyalty now,this will become the norm.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: howard1334 on January 06, 2018, 04:22:16 AM
I am pretty devastated by this. Knew it was coming but at the same time held onto a sliver of hope.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: howard1334 on January 06, 2018, 04:23:00 AM
But also, fuck Barley for sticking around Everton for his recovery, making us pay his wages and take less of a transfer fee. Some BS that.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: hannu on January 06, 2018, 04:25:53 AM
But also, fuck Barley for sticking around Everton for his recovery, making us pay his wages and take less of a transfer fee. Some BS that.

dont worry, he will slag us off and tell our other players they should leave and then when they are washed up we will take him back and give him a job just like jeffers
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluegriffo on January 06, 2018, 04:56:31 AM
Good luck to the lad.  Not an easy choice choosing between the coaching of Conte or Big Sam.  Also playing a one-two with Hazard doesn't have the same effect as playing with Morgan and company.

Just add this crap to the Koeman effect, who wrote Ross off and left a bad taste in the lads mouth.

Hope big orange Ron never manages again.  Has the fee being confirmed because 15 million is peanuts in today's market.

Should have let him sit on the subs bench until his contract expired.
I liked this by mistake fat thumbs Ross is a wanker the way he ran down his contract to save his new club and gain his self money I understand wanting to further your career but you shite from a great height on the people that schooled you from a 11 year old boy
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Gash on January 06, 2018, 05:01:27 AM
Hope he has an absolute Jack Rodwell.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 06, 2018, 05:03:54 AM
Reinstated into the England starting 11 in 5, 4, 3......
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: velimski on January 06, 2018, 05:08:17 AM
I'm far less arsed about it now than I would have been 2 years ago.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 05:09:04 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdlYfSQhv_o/


No Surprise fuckin Klaassen and Mirallas liked it.

rossbarkley
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Thank you to everyone for the well wishes and messages of support 💯 itís an amazing feeling to have signed for Chelsea and Iím excited about the future at Stamford Bridge 🔵 
Chelsea are a massive club with brilliant fans and Iím looking forward to working hard here and showing everyone what I know Iím capable of in the coming years ⚽

Despite a challenging few months Iíve loved every minute of my time at Everton and would like to thank everyone at the club, coaches, players and members of staff Iíve worked with for everything youíve done for me over the past 13 years. I will always look back with fond memories of my time at Goodison Park and playing for my hometown club in front of my own people has been a huge honour for me. Everton will always have a special place in my heart 💙

Iím now looking forward to a new start and new chapter in my life at Chelsea and canít wait to get going!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: DanDan on January 06, 2018, 05:15:19 AM
He will end up getting a winners medal for that Carabao cup that the sponsors Carabao actually sponsor Chelsea! How fucked up is that
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 05:16:11 AM
He will end up getting a winners medal for that Carabao cup that the sponsors Carabao actually sponsor Chelsea! How fucked up is that

A bit like the team that plays at the Emirates stadium winning the Emirates FA Cup isn't it?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 05:19:51 AM
He will end up getting a winners medal for that Carabao cup that the sponsors Carabao actually sponsor Chelsea! How fucked up is that

I'm kind of jealous he gets to play against Barcelona next month too.

A bit like the team that plays at the Emirates stadium winning the Emirates FA Cup isn't it?

We just need SportsPesa to sponsor the premier league, and maybe...just maybe!!!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: everton1952 on January 06, 2018, 05:59:55 AM
Nothing wrong with his decision he is a young man with maybe 10 years playing ahead of him. He probably needed a clean break , and his recent past has not been a happy one apart from the injury. Good luck to him as far as I am concerned. If he had stayed to the end of the season it would probably have been a good few more weeks  before he became match fit. We move on and so does he.   
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 06:04:17 AM
Quite clearly not him posting on social media by the way.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 06:09:51 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonArentWe/status/949423418604249093

 lolol
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: DanDan on January 06, 2018, 06:47:43 AM
Typical we don't play them now till next season too
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jamokachi on January 06, 2018, 08:13:52 AM
Quite clearly not him posting on social media by the way.

As is the case with 90% of footballers it seems.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: WilloBOI on January 06, 2018, 08:24:41 AM
What's the odds of him being available for Chelsea next game after blagging a 4-6week injury for months and months... shithouse
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: blue1948 on January 06, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
Who can I hate next?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: bluenuck on January 06, 2018, 12:29:26 PM
Who can I hate next?

Are you kidding?

There's tons to hate on. Ffs, Koeman is still being blamed for this shite.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bwana on January 06, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
I'm kind of jealous he gets to play against Barcelona next month too.

He has no chance to play against Barca. Not unless Chelsea faces their version of Munich and icy runway. Which I don't want to happen.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 04:24:28 PM
Quite clearly not him posting on social media by the way.

Obviously.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: School of Science on January 06, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
The question has been answered emphatically now Barkley's gone, think we have all said our piece, good or bad, maybe now like Ross we should consign this thread to a distant memory.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Polledreng on January 06, 2018, 05:06:56 PM
The question has been answered emphatically now Barkley's gone, think we have all said our piece, good or bad, maybe now like Ross we should consign this thread to a distant memory.
Yes and please move it from the Everton forum
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Bally on January 06, 2018, 05:58:44 PM
Are gangsters unable to find London?
Gangsters only hard in their own postcode then yeah
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 06, 2018, 06:25:10 PM
Yeah but let's face it, anything you say is babba anyway so nobody's arsed

Haha. This trauma you're suffering post allardyce is in danger of turning you into a bit of a cock
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Robber Rodwell on January 07, 2018, 02:13:30 AM
15 million for Ross Barkley.
145 million for Coutinho.


Once again confirmed as a small time club.  I really thought the Moshiri era was the beginning of great things.  All this talk of new stadiums and facilities does not mean one thing, if the proper manager and players arenít performing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 07, 2018, 02:16:15 AM
15 million for Ross Barkley.
145 million for Coutinho.


Once again confirmed as a small time club.  I really thought the Moshiri era was the beginning of great things.  All this talk of new stadiums and facilities does not mean one thing, if the proper manager and players aren't performing.
Ones got a three year deal to run out ones got six months
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 07, 2018, 02:22:07 AM
Ones got a three year deal to run out ones got six months


Also, one is really really good, and the other is really really average.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Macca77 on January 07, 2018, 02:26:04 AM
They're world's apart
Title: Re: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 07, 2018, 02:36:57 AM
Bit of a pointless thread now isn't it.