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Title: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 26, 2017, 09:19:26 PM
Not who are we better than, as right now it's nobody. This is probably the list of relegation candidates:

Huddersfield
Bournemouth
Newcastle
Stoke
Everton
West Brom
West Ham
Swansea
Crystal Palace

Of those, the only ones we've played that we sorta held our own against was:

Stoke

Of the rest, the ones that have similar rot, little fight, basically also don't look like much of a team:

Swansea
Maybe Newcastle. They have a half decent manager at least.

I'd say those would be the three we have a chance of finishing above if nothing changes. That's kinda clutching at straws though.

We're going to need a hell of a January window. As good as the summer one was bad.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 26, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
If Swansea are one place either side of us come the end of the season we'll be down.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 26, 2017, 09:27:46 PM
Being one of the most pessimistic of fans Im resigned to the fact that there isnt any at the mo.

Its obvious the problem didnt just lie with Koeman, this whole thing is rotten to the core.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Robioto on November 26, 2017, 09:28:44 PM
As things stand right now, we are the worst team in the league.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Gary1878 on November 26, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
We are currently the worst team in the league, and if we dont start getting things sorted very quickly and bring in some recruits in January, we will be relegated.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: everton1952 on November 26, 2017, 09:36:24 PM
3 obvious ones will be Cardiff, Sheff Utd and Villa.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Shogun on November 26, 2017, 09:41:02 PM
Not much point in discussing in November.

Things change quickly in football.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 26, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Not much point in discussing in November.

Things change quickly in football.

I think most are thinking this though. There is not any other team that is worse than us. I can't believe I just wrote that.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: TheTone on November 26, 2017, 09:48:42 PM
Sunderland
Burton Albion
Bolton

Just about like
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: 74Blue on November 26, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
We are currently the worst performing side in the PL by some distance. There's no urgency, we are making the same basic mistakes at the back time and time again, and have a forward line that is almost completely impotent. We are playing with not one, but two defensive midfielders that allow players to pass by them at will. We are a complete fucking shambles!
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Shogun on November 26, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
I think most are thinking this though. There is not any other team that is worse than us. I can't believe I just wrote that.

The four teams below us must be?

We'll have a new manager soon and for better or worse, things will change.

Depending on which direction we go (Silva/Dyche/Howe/Allardyce) then its impossible (and pointless) to discuss which teams are worse than us at the moment.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Macca77 on November 26, 2017, 09:55:21 PM
Swansea
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: 74Blue on November 26, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
The four teams below us must be?

We'll have a new manager soon and for better or worse, things will change.

Depending on which direction we go (Silva/Dyche/Howe/Allardyce) then its impossible (and pointless) to discuss which teams are worse than us at the moment.

It really isn't.
We could appoint fucking God and he would struggle to get that pile of shit performing to an acceptable standard.
It's quite simple. We are fucking shite!
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 26, 2017, 10:18:08 PM
The four teams below us must be?

We'll have a new manager soon and for better or worse, things will change.

Depending on which direction we go (Silva/Dyche/Howe/Allardyce) then its impossible (and pointless) to discuss which teams are worse than us at the moment.


Not overly disagreeing and haven't seen much of Swansea but palace now look alive, west brom are gritty we simply look dead all over the park.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 27, 2017, 01:47:51 AM
The four teams below us must be?

We'll have a new manager soon and for better or worse, things will change.

Depending on which direction we go (Silva/Dyche/Howe/Allardyce) then its impossible (and pointless) to discuss which teams are worse than us at the moment.


Must they be? surely over 13 games form and luck play a reasonable part. I think our performances have been far worse than our results and over a longer period results tend to equal performances. We've had so many lucky results this season

Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 27, 2017, 01:50:19 AM
Swansea
West Brom
Shite
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 27, 2017, 01:51:59 AM
Not who are we better than, as right now it's nobody. This is probably the list of relegation candidates:

Huddersfield
Bournemouth
Newcastle
Stoke
Everton
West Brom
West Ham
Swansea
Crystal Palace

Of that sorry lot, I like our chances best of finishing above Everton, which is dire, drizzling shite right now.

It may be scientifically impossible, but still our best chance.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: bluenuck on November 27, 2017, 02:20:29 AM
The four teams below us must be?

We'll have a new manager soon and for better or worse, things will change.

Depending on which direction we go (Silva/Dyche/Howe/Allardyce) then its impossible (and pointless) to discuss which teams are worse than us at the moment.

Palace are not worse than us imo.

They have a structure and a game plan in place with players who can play it which will get them points.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Shogun on November 27, 2017, 02:24:51 AM
Palace are not worse than us imo.

They have a structure and a game plan in place with players who can play it which will get them points.

And their fortunes have improved since changing manager.

Hence why this sort of thread is pointless before we appoint our own.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 02:26:58 AM
Palace are not worse than us imo.

They have a structure and a game plan in place with players who can play it which will get them points.

Yeah, they look like a team at least with some sort of identity. They looked better against us and I've seen them a few other times this season where they were pretty unlucky not to get more from the game. Not that they don't have issues, they also have a problem scoring with consistency which is why they're down there.

Bournemouth, Huddersfield and West Ham look like they are at least a team/have an identity even though I expect them to be bottom half and be in the mix.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 02:34:44 AM
And their fortunes have improved since changing manager.

Hence why this sort of thread is pointless before we appoint our own.

Whoever we appoint, we're going to be in a relegation fight this season as anyone in the bottom half will be involved. You don't go through a third of the campaign with the amount of points we have and not be in one.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 02:37:30 AM
Whoever we appoint, we're going to be in a relegation fight this season as anyone in the bottom half will be involved. You don't go through a third of the campaign with the amount of points we have and not be in one.

Yes but if you think we should get 1.5 points per game across a season then not many of them should / will get that.

If we pick up of course.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Morta75 on November 27, 2017, 02:39:16 AM
Everton
West Bromwich
Swansea
Crystal Palace
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 27, 2017, 02:50:38 AM
Everton Under 23's
Everton Under 18's

and umm Everton ladies.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 02:51:45 AM
Yes but if you think we should get 1.5 points per game across a season then not many of them should / will get that.

If we pick up of course.

If we pick up...yeah, I mean I think we have tools at our disposal to get out of this situation.

- We can appoint a manager.
- We can spend money in January.

That gives us options at least that should be better than other teams, which is helped also by the fact that despite how crap we've been the bottom half teams are all pretty crap, all have issues and most are unlikely to go on long runs of form. I mean look how many goals we've leaked and somehow we're not in the bottom three right now at least, and not at all cut adrift.

However, I do not think this is a situation where we turn it around overnight (I think it's going to take a good managerial choice, players returning and 2-3 key signings to shore up the spine of the team to really start moving our fortunes) so I'm assuming we'll be halfway through the season and comfortably bottom half. Possibly even bottom three or thereabouts. So, as a plan B of sorts I was just trying to find solace in teams that also seem kinda broken. As that's how I see us.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 02:55:37 AM
Yeah I just dont think that theres massive improvements in most of the others.

Some, such as promoted teams, have been thought to be doing well etc.

Whereas weve been an embarrassment yet, as you say still not adrift.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: arteta4spain on November 27, 2017, 03:06:05 AM
Being one of the most pessimistic of fans I'm resigned to the fact that there isn't any at the mo.

It's obvious the problem didn't just lie with Koeman, this whole thing is rotten to the core.

The last sentence is exactly what I said either here or to a mate after the game. Theres something not quite right. The players just arent performing and even with a change of manager things arent any different if not worse. As much as we blame Unsworth for his inabilities and hes naivety, the players are absolutely shite and need replacing. Thing is they cant go shite overnight.
Think theres a problem within the squad? I think as its falling apart theres maybe some blame getting banded about and its causing friction. I know Im making this up but the players look so demotivated, lacking in passion and fight. Its like theyre feeling self entitled to stay up and they think itll just materialise.
Im seriously worried about us as I cant see one leader on that pitch. There was a possible leader at St Marys today but he was in the bench.
Turned off after the second goal went in as I knew the inevitable. As did the players, but theyre there to change that. Its a long hard slog to Jan and it cant come quick enough.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: gizzblue on November 27, 2017, 03:22:47 AM
Ask after our new manager has had five or six games ...till then its all a mirage .
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: burkey17 on November 27, 2017, 03:45:53 AM
I'm 40 odd and I cannot remember how bad it was in 1998 apart from running on the pitch after we got a draw and in 1994 when I blagged my way in with a junior tkt against Wimbledon. It just seems 'worse' ATM.Expectations were high this Season and now like all of us I cannot believe we're having this thread. But like you all it's happening and I do believe there are 3 worse teams then us.... but really there is gross negligence going on ATM. No leadership, no Manager and deffo no team ethic. The Club is shitting on one of own in Unsy.Sort it out now! Our motto is our standard NSNO
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Stumpy on November 27, 2017, 04:00:36 AM
 At the moment we are without a shadow of doubt the worst team in the league,the softest of soft touches.I would not back us against anybody in the premiership,frankly I think we would struggle against half the championship sides.Confidence is on the floor right throughout the club.We've just under 2/3 of the season left so this fucking shambles needs to be sorted out NOW before it becomes terminal.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: chang on November 27, 2017, 04:13:55 AM
I think the important thing right now is to recognise we are in trouble and be proactive about it - not roll through the rest of the season thinking we are too good to go down.

The players are key in this, I can't see a  player being crap on purpose, but likewise I can't believe the entire squad would lose form at the same time.

I think Palace, if their key players stay fit will work their way out the bottom three and I do honestly feel when Bolasie and Coleman are back to full fitness we will benefit from it.

Christmas 2014 Leicester were bottom, 10 points from 17 games...
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: boothill on November 27, 2017, 07:31:45 AM
Wolves , sheffield wed, ipswich
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: American Evertonian on November 27, 2017, 08:01:45 AM
We are lucky. At least we have money to invest in Jan. So many clubs that have gone down don't have the finances to bring in quality like we do - assuming we invest wisely of course.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Confucius on November 27, 2017, 10:14:22 AM
We not going down, we have quality in our team that will see us through if it gets to that level. We will meander a little and finish maybe 11-12th and have a good cup run. There is no need to worry or panic.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: bluenuck on November 27, 2017, 10:42:53 AM
We not going down, we have quality in our team that will see us through if it gets to that level. We will meander a little and finish maybe 11-12th and have a good cup run. There is no need to worry or panic.

Don't bogart the joint. Pass it over.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blue1948 on November 27, 2017, 10:48:28 AM
We are only three wins from a three game winning run . I watched some highlights yesterday and Cleverley looked world class compared to us yesterday.That is how far we have sunk . In itself that is enough to frighten any of us into realising this is a dire situation .
Title: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Confucius on November 27, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
We are only three wins from a three game winning run . I watched some highlights yesterday and Cleverley looked world class compared to us yesterday.That is how far we have sunk . In itself that is enough to frighten any of us into realising this is a dire situation .

It's dire because the players are playing badly not because they bad players. I have every confidence they can find some form during the season and go on an unbeaten 4-5 game run which will take us to safety.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 27, 2017, 12:07:21 PM
It's dire because the players are playing badly not because they bad players.

Problem is, after awhile, players playing badly are no different from bad players. And it's been awhile.
 
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: sirblue57 on November 27, 2017, 02:13:49 PM
tranmere, southport and wigan, at a push.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: cantoffee on November 27, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
It's dire because the players are playing badly not because they bad players. I have every confidence they can find some form during the season and go on an unbeaten 4-5 game run which will take us to safety.
Yes, I think if anything, seeing that Cleverly looks better than anyone in our team at the moment should show us that the players we have are far better than we've seen so far.

Cleverly wouldn't get in our top 20 players so we have the playing staff to pull ourselves out of this if we can get the right manager in.

That's obviously a risk but I think if we can appoint Silva or Dyche we would be fine, although I still feel Dyche has a ceiling so not that keen on him.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 27, 2017, 09:01:22 PM
Wolves
Sheffield Utd
Cardiff City
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: formerKHL on November 27, 2017, 09:17:51 PM
any 3 at the minute....
as long as we do...
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: BlueMaquis on November 27, 2017, 09:43:13 PM
Manchester United
Arsenal
Bournemouth

(Goodison Park elevation above sea level : 47m

Old Trafford elevation above sea level: 43m
Emirates Stadium elevation above sea level: 32.21m
Vitality Stadium elevation above sea level : 33m)
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
We not going down, we have quality in our team that will see us through if it gets to that level. We will meander a little and finish maybe 11-12th and have a good cup run. There is no need to worry or panic.

How many players would you say are quality?
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 27, 2017, 10:07:18 PM
We are lucky. At least we have money to invest in Jan. So many clubs that have gone down don't have the finances to bring in quality like we do - assuming we invest wisely of course.

Considering how we've spent our money in recent windows and its impact on the team, that's actually daunting.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Confucius on November 27, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
How many players would you say are quality?

Proven quality?
Pickford, Baines, Jags, Keane, williams(kind of) schneiderlin,Gana,Rooney,Siggurdson, Klassen, Lennon, Bolasie,Coleman,Barkley. McCarthy. Davies not far behind. Sandro will be a decent player once he settles. Niasse has his moments. That's more than enough to keep us up.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 10:46:05 PM
Youd have to ask did anyone expect to be down here at the start of the season?

Id guess no, so unless everyone was wrong about the level of players that we have then it must be down to the management of them so far.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 11:03:47 PM
Proven quality?
Pickford, Baines, Jags, Keane, williams(kind of) schneiderlin,Gana,Rooney,Siggurdson, Klassen, Lennon, Bolasie,Coleman,Barkley. McCarthy. Davies not far behind. Sandro will be a decent player once he settles. Niasse has his moments. That's more than enough to keep us up.

You don't look at that list and add a ? next to some of those. I mean yes, some were quality but just based on age (both too old and on the younger end) there has to be some concern.

I'd say you're very generous with your definition of quality looking at that list. I'd say 4 or 5 of those. IF this was 3 or 4 years ago I'd agree but a lot of those are really on the wrong side of their careers age wise. How many of those are really in their prime and PL proven?
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Confucius on November 27, 2017, 11:06:54 PM
You don't look at that list and add a ? next to some of those. I mean yes, some were quality but just based on age (both too old and on the younger end) there has to be some concern.

I'd say you're very generous with your definition of quality looking at that list. I'd say 4 or 5 of those. IF this was 3 or 4 years ago I'd agree but a lot of those are really on the wrong side of their careers age wise. How many of those are really in their prime and PL proven?

Agreed with that not on their prime but still good enough to not get us relegated.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 11:13:33 PM
Youd have to ask did anyone expect to be down here at the start of the season?

Id guess no, so unless everyone was wrong about the level of players that we have then it must be down to the management of them so far.

I think there were enough serious concerns even without hindsight. Not this bad, but still.

I thought we needed to end the window with a GK, 2 CBs (leaving Jagielka and Williams as the cover), a LB (obvious), a RB for cover, LW (obvious), RW (who knows how Bolasie comes back), and 2 strikers (obvious). Probably someone to replace what Barry brought too.

I don't think we addressed many of those adequately at all.

The most fortunate thing that happened this summer, was that we didn't get the Barkley deal done as was wanted. His return alone gives me confidence we can set up some goals.

However, it's basic stuff you don't sell the player who was involved with 90% of your goals and not replace him as everything else gets magnified when the confidence or the ability to score leaves a team.

Going into the season with a reliance on DCL (based on what evidence exactly from the previous season?) was sheer delusion.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 28, 2017, 09:56:22 AM
I think Palace, although playing better, are still going down.

West Ham look dreadful and I think they are going down.

Swansea I think just barely get out of the drop.

I think Huddersfeld are gonna crash out. They are the worst team in the PL since their 2-1-0 start and I would not be surprised if they only win 2-3 more the entire season.



Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2017, 06:16:09 AM
What are ya saying

December 2 – Huddersfield (H)

December 7 – Apollon Limassol (A)

December 10 – Liverpool (A)

December 13 – Newcastle (A)

December 18 – Swansea (H)

December 23 – Chelsea (H)

December 26 – West Brom (A)

December 30 – Bournemouth (A)

January 1 – Manchester United (H)

8 league games and 1 training match

Potential points - 28

Prediction - 12

Points per game- 1.5

Would you take that?

Edit - probably 9 actually I think but who knows.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: bluenuck on December 01, 2017, 06:30:38 AM
What are ya saying

December 2 Huddersfield (H)

December 7 Apollon Limassol (A)

December 10 Liverpool (A)

December 13 Newcastle (A)

December 18 Swansea (H)

December 23 Chelsea (H)

December 26 West Brom (A)

December 30 Bournemouth (A)

January 1 Manchester United (H)

8 league games and 1 training match

Potential points - 28

Prediction - 12

Points per game- 1.5

Would you take that?

Edit - probably 9 actually I think but who knows.

11 or 12 is realistic. There's a few wins in there, and a couple of draws.

that'd put us 26-27 points after 22 games. 16 left and would need 4 wins to be fine.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2017, 06:33:14 AM
What are ya saying

December 2 Huddersfield (H)

December 7 Apollon Limassol (A)

December 10 Liverpool (A)

December 13 Newcastle (A)

December 18 Swansea (H)

December 23 Chelsea (H)

December 26 West Brom (A)

December 30 Bournemouth (A)

January 1 Manchester United (H)

8 league games and 1 training match

Potential points - 28

Prediction - 12

Points per game- 1.5

Would you take that?

Edit - probably 9 actually I think but who knows.

If you happened to be a glass half full type, there are some winnable games there.

Lose against Huddersfield though, and that list suddenly looks kinda crappy.

All about the next few games for me, and whether we can start winning games away from home...something that seemed beyond us under Koeman for a very long time. If we drop a lot of points, concede a bunch at Anfield, and it'll be a hard slog to the finish line. However, if we can go on a little run, avoid capitulation at Anfield then confidence can really help turn our form around. As Unsworth himself said, this season will be a lot clearer in terms of objectives in the next few games. If we can somehow drag ourselves up to mid-table and be ready to go with a couple of astute January signings this season could have us looking forward to next season.

Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2017, 06:38:29 AM
11 or 12 is realistic. There's a few wins in there, and a couple of draws.

that'd put us 26-27 points after 22 games. 16 left and would need 4 wins to be fine.

We havent won away since Jan, Newcastle WBA and Bournemouth as much as Id like them to be still dont feel like wins to me just yet.

Swans and Huddersfield home wins hopefully but the latter are no mugs so would be surprised at anything there.

Liverpoo, Chelsea, United expected losses.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2017, 06:40:11 AM
Edit - probably 9 actually I think but who knows.

Until we can prove we can win the odd away game, I think you're right with some tough home games 9-12 points would be the range.

The lower end being the more likely given our form to date, until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 01, 2017, 06:40:57 AM
Mental that weve not won away for almost a year!
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 01, 2017, 06:43:16 AM
At least with Allerdyce we should be harder to beat so if we can keep clean sheets away from home, we have more chance of nicking a win. The away games to Newcastle, West Brom and Bournemouth look a lot more winnable now.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 01, 2017, 06:49:10 AM
Yeah Id say expect a few Home wins but none away from Home, but probably the odd draw
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Confucius on December 01, 2017, 12:30:41 PM
Make us more solid at the back and you allow our quality players like Rooney, Siggurdson, Sandro, Klassen, Niasse to shine and get a goal. Some tough game but will be easily 8th after that run. If Allardyce is a decent as he says is is, than should be aiming for top 7
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2017, 03:01:23 PM
Make us more solid at the back and you allow our quality players like Rooney, Siggurdson, Sandro, Klassen, Niasse to shine and get a goal. Some tough game but will be easily 8th after that run. If Allardyce is a decent as he says is is, than should be aiming for top 7

Yeah but how many points, cock on block what are you saying
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 01, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
Make us more solid at the back and you allow our quality players like Rooney, Siggurdson, Sandro, Klassen, Niasse to shine and get a goal. Some tough game but will be easily 8th after that run. If Allardyce is a decent as he says is is, than should be aiming for top 7
Cant see Klassen and Sandro getting much game time under Allerdyce.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Lxxx on December 01, 2017, 05:18:21 PM
Mental that we’ve not won away for almost a year!

And some people still think we'd have been better off sticking with Koeman.
Title: Re: Which 3 teams can we finish above?
Post by: Macca77 on December 01, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
We will finish above
Palace
Swansea
West Ham
Bournemouth
Stoke
West Brom
Brighton
Huddersfield
Southampton
and possibly Burnley