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Title: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 08, 2016, 01:03:45 PM
Might as well put one of these up but, once again, not all that arsed given the current climate. I'll be predicting a defeat. Mostly watching to hear the fans singing Baines' name.

There's your match preview. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton pre match thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 08, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
In all seriousness is anyone going this game, and is anyone taking any 'anti Martinez' banners or 'pro Baines' banners.
Seen online a few Baines ones knocking around that people are going to try and get in.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Juanito on April 08, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
                                       Robles
         Coleman      Stones         Jags        Baines

                          McCarthy   Barry

         Deulofeu           Barkley              Lennon

                            Lukaku
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 08, 2016, 04:38:09 PM
Think team will be above but with Lennon RM and Cleverley LM   Geri on the bench     and will he have the balls to drop   Bainsey  doubt it.....

these have not won for ages apart from the cup   only beat Newcastle and palace this year in the league, so on a similar run as us,   

and we play palace next and they aint won this year....

so someone is going to get a little boost before the semi and cant see it being us

predicted a defeat
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: wilbur on April 08, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
We have been awful in the last 2 games and it's in danger of becoming the norm. We desperately need to snap out of it tomorrow before it's too late.

It's difficult to overestimate Gareth Barry's influence and I'm sure his return will bring about a comfortable professional performance and reward us with our sixth away win of the season....................fcu k me, is that my alarm going off already?

Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 08, 2016, 06:07:56 PM

Might as well put one of these up but, once again, not all that arsed given the current climate. I'll be predicting a defeat. Mostly watching to hear the fans singing Baines' name.

There's your match preview. Enjoy.

Yeah I'm finding it pretty hard to be that bothered what happens either which way.

I'm convinced that we'll play better in the semi regardless of form going into it.

But obviously it would feel a bit better if we were looking slightly capable going into it.

With Watford and Palace being in as worse/simply worse form than us these next two games would look particularly bad if we are, erm, particularly bad.



Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 08, 2016, 06:23:31 PM
Really really cant be arsed with it anymore

Martinez has had an absolute weston in the press all week, I am not sure whose fault it will be when we get beat. I will look forward to seeing who that is more than the game itself
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sootyjrw on April 08, 2016, 06:28:14 PM
It's difficult to overestimate Gareth Barry's influence

That's just one of the things I'm worried about with RM's teams, whenever Barry has missed a game, we don't have anyone taking responsibility, Barry is 35ish so what happens next season when his influence wanes.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 08, 2016, 07:07:50 PM
Watford beat Arsenal in the FA cup so we can be thankful to them for that, they've been off the boil for at least a couple of months though, maybe safety was their aim and they're cantering toi the semi in the meantime. A side achieveing more than the sum of its parts suggest it should, were a top half side (werent we all) with very few absolute stand out individuals. Would like a win, would like a solid performance actually, theyre only a point behind us having played a game extra, best of luck to them in their semi vs palace..... now to headlines......

Martinez struggles to bridge watford gap
Watford latest bane to Martinez' Everton
Stunning comeback sees hornets sting toffees to snatch late late draw
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 08, 2016, 08:07:29 PM
C'mon Watford
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: dax78 on April 08, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
C'mon Watford

Do not understand this
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 08, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
If we win this game then so what?  Where will 3 points take us?  It makes no difference to anything. Even if you think that some form will make us better for the cup games, we have shown no consistency in any stretch of the season (a bit harsh - we have been consistently shite although I would argue that there have been discerns me variations of shite). We need Martinez gone. That's the only thing for me.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cassius on April 08, 2016, 08:44:07 PM
I'll be honest, I've got more enthusiasm for the National than I have for this game.

I still want us to win, mind.

For what it's worth, I'd line up like this:

Robles
Coleman Jags Stones Baines
Barry Besic
Lennon Barkley Cleverley
Lukaku

For what it's worth, I think Roberto will line us up like this:

Robles
Coleman Jags Stones Oviedo
Barry Besic
Lennon Barkley Cleverley
Lukaku
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 08, 2016, 08:49:18 PM
Defo gonna be last on match of the day this!

A win would be nice just to confirm our survival
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 08, 2016, 08:52:43 PM
keep the faith lids, I'm expecting a big performance from the team tomorrow, then erm, lose on pens to them in the cup final !
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on April 08, 2016, 09:06:58 PM
should be a phenomenal game, high intensity which is a real joy and a real football occassion....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 08, 2016, 10:10:59 PM
I'll be honest, I've got more enthusiasm for the National than I have for this game.

I still want us to win, mind.

For what it's worth, I'd line up like this:

Robles
Coleman Jags Stones Baines
Barry Besic
Lennon Barkley Cleverley
Lukaku

For what it's worth, I think Roberto will line us up like this:

Robles
Coleman Jags Stones Oviedo
Barry Besic
Lennon Barkley Cleverley
Lukaku

I'd start Oviedo at right back.

Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 08, 2016, 11:21:48 PM
we will win this.

And we will beat palace and we will then be 9th or something.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rhys on April 08, 2016, 11:38:36 PM
we will win this.

And we will beat palace and we will then be 9th or something.

Given we are already 6 points off 10th and 7 off 9th we wont!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: smellybum on April 08, 2016, 11:42:47 PM
We are either going to tank them as all the players will be fired up in-spite of Martinez or it is going to be a tedious game we lose 1-0 where the players can't be assed again because they wont the manager gone.
Hoping personal pride comes into play and they actually just get on with it. This s the type of game where we need a leader. A Keane, Viera, Gerrard. Somebody to do something and lead us. Step up Ross and Mo. Win it for Leighton.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 08, 2016, 11:53:16 PM
Given we are already 6 points off 10th and 7 off 9th we wont!

That was the something
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: snods on April 09, 2016, 12:13:03 AM
we will win this.

And we will beat palace and we will then be 9th or something.
We are all over the place and i can see them winning a scrappy game 1-0
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 09, 2016, 12:15:54 AM
Can see us getting thumped 3-0
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 12:51:06 AM
They've not got a very good home record so hopefully it's back to normal tomorrow for our away form.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 09, 2016, 01:03:22 AM
Two punch-drunks waiting for the bell.

2-1 Everton in the last round.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 01:29:22 AM
They've not got a very good home record so hopefully it's back to normal tomorrow for our away form.

With our 5 away wins from 14 games.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 01:32:45 AM
With our 5 away wins from 14 games.

Yeah I believe it's our best away form for years with only 2 defeats in 14 (to date).

Think Bobby mentioned it in his press conference?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 01:34:36 AM
Can't help myself, I still look forward to watching the blues. Always will.

never seen the club so flat though, despite he fact we've had worse years! Probably says a lot about how important home performances are to us.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 01:35:35 AM
Yeah I believe it's our best away form for years with only 2 defeats in 14 (to date).

Think Bobby mentioned it in his press conference?

Given that we've been awful away for a long time, that's hardly a huge thing to shout about.

If our away form was transposed onto our home form, we'd have another 6 points or so. Just think the away thing is a bit of a myth that's built up over the season.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 01:39:09 AM
Given that we've been awful away for a long time, that's hardly a huge thing to shout about.

If our away form was transposed onto our home form, we'd have another 6 points or so. Just think the away thing is a bit of a myth that's built up over the season.

I think Bobby said it was the best since the 30's if I heard right so not  exactly recent.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 01:41:27 AM
I think Bobby said it was the best since the 30's if I heard right so not  exactly recent.

He loves digging up an obscure stat doesn't he? The other one was the 'first time we've reached two cup semis in 30 odd years'. It's almost like he's researching this stuff before he goes into press conferences to defend his tenuous position, and to deflect criticism.

He's like an illusionist saying 'don't look over there, look over here, here's something shiny'.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: hill135 on April 09, 2016, 01:53:57 AM
OUr away form is good.

Five away wins is quite a lot.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 01:59:16 AM
OUr away form is good.

Five away wins is quite a lot.

Bournemouth, Watford and Palace have also got 5 away wins and we're joint 8th in number of away points in the league. Nowt special.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 02:42:18 AM
The number of losses is good.

And if we had normal home form we'd be in good shape.

We don't though.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluebridge on April 09, 2016, 03:19:48 AM
I can see a lot of goals in this one, I fancy a repeat of the games in the 80's 4-4 or 5-4. so expect 0-0.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 03:55:14 AM
Given that we've been awful away for a long time, that's hardly a huge thing to shout about.

If our away form was transposed onto our home form, we'd have another 6 points or so. Just think the away thing is a bit of a myth that's built up over the season.

Was a week or so now but I saw a stat that said if our home form matched our away we would be on 5th or 6th I think it was.

7th and a semi would be a decent season.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 03:56:12 AM
Bournemouth, Watford and Palace have also got 5 away wins and we're joint 8th in number of away points in the league. Nowt special.

Letting it cloud your judgement I think.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 09, 2016, 04:45:44 AM
With all that's gone on Anyone else worried about the players "taking a day off" here and us getting really hammered?

ya know, maybe letting Bobby get it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 04:50:34 AM
With all that's gone on Anyone else worried about the players "taking a day off" here and us getting really hammered?

ya know, maybe letting Bobby get it.

I've been disgusted at other teams when they've done it, ends justifying the means or no, it's not something I could ever, ever be OK with.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 04:53:50 AM
With all that's gone on Anyone else worried about the players "taking a day off" here and us getting really hammered?

ya know, maybe letting Bobby get it.
I'd rather us get an early penalty, Baines take the ball off Rom, score, then run down the sideline flicking the v's at the bench.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 04:58:08 AM
I'd rather us get an early penalty, Baines take the ball off Rom, score, then run down the sideline flicking the v's at the bench.

Or produce a pair of beakers from his pants and do a quick experiment.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 05:07:49 AM
Or produce a pair of beakers from his pants and do a quick experiment.
This ones gone right over my head?!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: benny on April 09, 2016, 05:09:58 AM
C'mon Watford

                    :o
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 05:12:29 AM
This ones gone right over my head?!

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--diYVE5mm--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/1969f79hbonyngif.gif)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 09, 2016, 05:23:59 AM
I've been disgusted at other teams when they've done it, ends justifying the means or no, it's not something I could ever, ever be OK with.

Just to be clear. I'm not saying I'd like it to happen.

I'm just getting that feeling that we might see some players just going through the motions tomorrow.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 05:59:20 AM
Just to be clear. I'm not saying I'd like it to happen.

I'm just getting that feeling that we might see some players just going through the motions tomorrow.

Would be a real defining moment for me if I ever believed that to be the case.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 12:45:27 PM
I think the last 4 matches have shown this; maybe not in such a blatant manner.

The sending off gave us something to hold on to and we defended really well for, erm 78, mins.

Then the poor sub didn't help to prevent the melt down and that must have taken its toll on player morale; especially if it was low with regards to the manager's ideas etc.

Then the 1/4 final was a big game (with a chance to lead to personal glory), good atmosphere etc so the performance was more intense still.

The following games where there's no real personal glory and, perhaps the thought of "it doesn't matter if we defend well, RM can always balls it up" have seen terribly insipid performances in fixtures that you'd normally hope for more intensity.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bwana on April 09, 2016, 03:32:49 PM
It'll be again a phenomenal performance after which we would've deserved more from the game. If only the away changing room would've been a couple of degrees warmer and their tea & pies a couple of degrees cooler we would've made it. Oh and the sky was a bit too blue. And the pigeons on the roofs of Vicarage Road bit too fat.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 08:00:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfmilIdW8AQ9vXs.jpg)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 08:01:16 PM
Good having Barry back and also that he is sticking with two wingers.

Lose 2-1.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Thom on April 09, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
Got to hope that those players stick to those positions throughout the 90 (Deulofeu and Lennon will change wings occasionally I reckon), as I can't be arsed seeing Lennon behind Lukaku with Barkley out on the left wing for some utterly stupid reason.

Only thing about that bench is that you can spot the subs a mile off. Cleverley and Mirallas definitely, but everyone else will be lucky to see time on the pitch.

Guess we'll wait and see if we perform better than recent matches.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 08:06:11 PM
The scientist starts at left back!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
They've put Lennon and Barkley the wrong way round.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 08:07:42 PM
There's no way he could have dropped Baines (in hindsight!). Good to see Deulefeu. Bored with the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 09, 2016, 08:11:42 PM
The scientist starts at left back!
Sorry what does that mean? It's gonna be something so obvious now!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 08:12:56 PM
Sorry what does that mean? It's gonna be something so obvious now!

Leighton and his chemistry set are playing! Good news all round.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 08:14:40 PM
Away from home we will probably do alright, have done all season. Always want us to win but it's all so meaningless.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfmilIdW8AQ9vXs.jpg)

That's got to be close to our best 11?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 08:18:15 PM
Just to be clear. I'm not saying I'd like it to happen.

I'm just getting that feeling that we might see some players just going through the motions tomorrow.

same.  I predicted 3-0, but I certainly hope it doesn't happen.  If it does, much more likely to be subconscious rather than deliberate.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 09, 2016, 08:18:34 PM
Leighton and his chemistry set are playing! Good news all round.
Ah nice! Haha I've been up for work since 3am my heads mashed! 😜
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 08:19:08 PM
That's got to be close to our best 11?

I'd have to agree to be honest, can't see how that first 11 could be improved.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 09, 2016, 08:21:39 PM
Guess Baines isn't dropped/ sulking/ hated by the manager after all.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 08:22:58 PM
Guess Baines isn't dropped/ sulking/ hated by the manager after all.

Must have ruined a fews Saturday afternoon that decision .
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 08:35:28 PM
They're previewing the Watford game next on soccer Saturday if anyone's interested. 
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 08:37:03 PM
Guess Baines isn't dropped/ sulking/ hated by the manager after all.

He couldn't possibly drop him. It would've been managerial suicide.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 08:37:37 PM
...and the title race is officially down to just two
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Let's hope someone interviews Baines after the game. Careful now Leighton!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 08:41:32 PM
Fingers crossed that the wingers are playing on the wings and the rest are where you'd expect.

Somehow, I wouldn't be shocked to see Barkley left (however unlikely it should be).
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 08:43:16 PM
If we lose, villa lose and Seansea win, we'll be 15th by the end of the day.

NSNO
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 09, 2016, 08:44:24 PM
That is our best 11, providing they play in the positions suggested on the graphic.

If we can get the energy up then the confidence could start flowing..
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 08:47:03 PM
Mirallas would be in my hypothetical best 11, though not in RMs current set up.

Criminal how little we've got out of a player who used to be a match winner for us.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 09, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
They're previewing the Watford game next on soccer Saturday if anyone's interested. 
............Martinez got serious stick off the panel i.e. Merson ,Nicholas and Pinnochio
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Large pro Baines banner here

"Baines is one of us"
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 08:51:34 PM
Anyway, fuck everything now and let's twat Watford, please.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 08:51:48 PM
Mirallas is now an urban legend to me.  He's had JUST SO MANY chances to get back into the team concept.  I don't blame RM for THAT one.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 08:52:00 PM
I do think Kone has been harshly treated. Not brilliant but no worse than most this season. Hes completely disappeared in favour of a player whos apparently only 50% fit after being here 3 months.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 08:52:07 PM
Kopites would have had something much more esoteric...

Baines est nobis; fuga Robertus

Or something.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 09, 2016, 08:52:28 PM
They're previewing the Watford game next on soccer Saturday if anyone's interested.
Thompson,Merson and Nicholas all basically saying Martinez got it wrong with his handling of Baines and more or less that he talks shite.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 08:52:49 PM
Anyway, fuck everything now and let's twat Watford, please.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
Large pro Baines banner here

"Baines is one of us"

Not to go all Walter White on ya....but YOU'RE GODDMNED RIGHT!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 08:53:37 PM
Mirallas is now an urban legend to me.  He's had JUST SO MANY chances to get back into the team concept.  I don't blame RM for THAT one.

Should have got rid of ages ago. The lad is a waster. Hes Ronaldos attitude with about a billionth of the talent.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 09, 2016, 08:54:39 PM
Come on Everton give us something to cheer about. 4-3 last minute Coleman winner will do me like.....fucksakes!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 08:55:51 PM

I do think Kone has been harshly treated. Not brilliant but no worse than most this season. Hes completely disappeared in favour of a player whos apparently only 50% fit after being here 3 months.

Consistent with McGeady.

Surely he likes him as he signed him yet a poor half vs Barnsley (along with everyone else) and never to be seen again.

Obviously no one cares about that like.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 08:56:09 PM
Come on Everton give us something to cheer about. 4-3 last minute Coleman winner will do me like.....fucksakes!

4-3?! You are a stronger person than me.

A relatively comfortable 2-0 would do for me.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 08:56:34 PM
Should have got rid of ages ago. The lad is a waster. Hes Ronaldos attitude with about a billionth of the talent.

I've always been a bit bitter about Mirallas, because I think he has the ability in absolute spades, but for how often he just does not do the business...I think I feel a bit robbed? A bit like, how many magic moments have I missed out on because the lad for whatever reason, seems to just turn it on for 3 minutes and look great, and then just turn it off for 5-6 games.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 09, 2016, 08:57:28 PM
4-3?! You are a stronger person than me.

A relatively comfortable 2-0 would do for me.

That be me, man. Its Spring and the birds are shagging. Any streams lids?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cassius on April 09, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Streams please fellas.

Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:00:13 PM
Anybody feeling a bit 'eh' about this?.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 09:00:17 PM
I'll be interested to see how we cope with this narrow 4-4-2.

The thing I'm looking for most today -- a performance truly worthy of a result. None of this "two chances fell to our centre back and we conceded a goal from a mistake so we deserved a win" business.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Streams please fellas.

Looking forward to this one.

http://giostreams.eu/52.html
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 09, 2016, 09:01:43 PM
http://giostreams.eu/52.html

Ace. Ta.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cassius on April 09, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
http://giostreams.eu/52.html

Cheers Ting
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 09:03:22 PM
Consistent with McGeady.

Surely he likes him as he signed him yet a poor half vs Barnsley (along with everyone else) and never to be seen again.

Obviously no one cares about that like.

Really strange treatment of the players on the peripheral of the first team in general has been a hallmark of Martinez of late. He seems to ostracise so many players for bizarrely long periods of time. Lennon probably was the strangest example of this in the first half of the season as he was flavour of the month toward the end of last season to basically become persona non grata at the start of this one...but clearly there have been plenty of other examples.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
I've always been a bit bitter about Mirallas, because I think he has the ability in absolute spades, but for how often he just does not do the business...I think I feel a bit robbed? A bit like, how many magic moments have I missed out on because the lad for whatever reason, seems to just turn it on for 3 minutes and look great, and then just turn it off for 5-6 games.

Yeah should have been a real player. Maybe talent was the wrong word a billionth of the application might be better.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
I microwaved my coffee 20 seconds pre-match for Barkley juju.  Want to see him have a great one today.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: dchans on April 09, 2016, 09:06:03 PM
any more streams dudes?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
Barkley will come off here, he looks hurt.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:08:44 PM
That was our first piece of sexy football is a long fucking time.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:09:27 PM
good little move there
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 09, 2016, 09:11:05 PM
Any updates on Barkley getting hurt during sexy time?

Or have I got things mixed up?

I'm in a soft play centre, it is chaos 😩
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 09:11:36 PM
Any updates on Barkley getting hurt during sexy time?

Or have I got things mixed up?

I'm in a soft play centre, it is chaos 😩

He's fine.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on April 09, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
2 anti Martinez banners today
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
these are proper snide
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
We've gone a bit long ball across the last few months, haven't we.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:16:58 PM
Only just got a stream working. How have we played opening 15 mins.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:17:26 PM
Only just got a stream working. How have we played opening 15 mins.

Unable to judge since we're being kicked off the park.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:17:27 PM
glad Robles wasn't caught scratching his ass there
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:18:44 PM
great save from robles that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
McCarthy managing to give it away twice in three seconds
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Sounds like it's same old?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:20:23 PM
good effort from Geri that, good save as well
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:21:39 PM
Sounds like it's same old?

Yep.

We've just had a corner, played it short and were offside from the pass back to Del, the corner taker.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:22:31 PM
Sounds like it's same old?

Not really, we look better than we have been, at least.  Still not great, mind.  And we are certainly TRYING.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 09, 2016, 09:23:14 PM
Jurado has McCarthy on toast so far, and the commentators have mentioned that he's never scored for Watford.

Get your bets on lids
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 09:23:18 PM
Yep.

We've just had a corner, played it short and were offside from the pass back to Del, the corner taker.

Fucking Martinez !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
Big Rom is still woefully isolated and unsupported.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 09:23:33 PM
Totally wasting my time again on android box pissing about for the last 30 mins
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 09:24:39 PM
Are there any more streams apart from that giostreams (doesn't work for me).
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 09, 2016, 09:25:37 PM
My stream is awful direct from NBC today. And I'm paying for this.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:26:03 PM
no Rom, play the pass, don't shoot from 400 yards!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 09:26:07 PM
Totally wasting my time again on android box pissing about for the last 30 mins
Njm is working fine in HD.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
http://intsports1.net/str8.html
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:26:24 PM
Are there any more streams apart from that giostreams (doesn't work for me).

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/4e15ps/match_thread_1400_gmt_watford_vs_everton/

few in there.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
On the bright side it looks like bye bye to Villa and Newcastle .
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 09, 2016, 09:27:13 PM
Are there any more streams apart from that giostreams (doesn't work for me).
Try: www.zunox.hk

Both streams on that working for me
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 09:27:34 PM
http://intsports1.net/str8.html

Thanks a lot mate.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 09:27:56 PM
no Rom, play the pass, don't shoot from 400 yards!

He's frustrated I'd say, the only reason you take those type of shots on is you're not getting a sniff otherwise.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cassius on April 09, 2016, 09:28:37 PM
Stones enjoying the long ball into the stands today.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 09:29:27 PM
Looks like two teams who have very little to play for.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Rom wants to stop having a go at people for not finding him with crosses, when he's walking back onside and can't control a simple pass into him,
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:29:44 PM
Stones enjoying the long ball into the stands today.

it's what the crowd have been screaming at him to do for months!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:30:50 PM
corner taker too slow in getting back onside again
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 09:31:04 PM
My stream is awful direct from NBC today. And I'm paying for this.
Well, you can't blame NBC for the quality of the game played ;)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 09:31:06 PM
Sigh. Hard work watching this.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:31:20 PM
grim this
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:33:30 PM
Over doin it a bit Geri.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:33:37 PM
 :Howard:
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 09:34:51 PM
You can really tell all the hype from he semi final is getting to us.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 09:37:28 PM
We need a break to go for us at the moment, get a goal and a bit of confidence.

If they score first we will fold again.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Baines needs to stop running his fingers through his hair like a nonce
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:41:23 PM
Geris off his game.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:41:48 PM
take the ball with you Geri lad
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 09:42:16 PM

Njm is working fine in HD.

NJM has never worked for me. So frustrating when people say it's working perfectly. Anyway never mind. Will try one of the web links instead.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:42:36 PM
Geris off his game.

He hasn't been on his game since before Christmas.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:42:46 PM
safe to say Barca wont be back in for Geri come end of season
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 09:43:10 PM
Like to see us swap Deulofeu and Lennon over, we look so much better down the right with the Coleman Lennon combo.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
McCarthy off at the half before we are down to 10, FFS.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
think that's harsh on McCarthy that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
Troy Deeney would be a great replacement for Lukaku.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:45:11 PM
safe to say Barca wont be back in for Geri come end of season

He's done a couple of nice things (first 15 minutes) but he just can't sustain it.  Yeah...not Barca-worthy
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 09, 2016, 09:45:27 PM

Troy Deeney would be a great replacement for Lukaku.

Really?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 09:46:17 PM
McCarthy off at the half before we are down to 10, FFS.

You're a bit late with that sub call EiNC it's almost half time!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 09:46:22 PM
Goooooooooooooooooooooooallll lllllllll Maccaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
Troy Deeney would be a great replacement for Lukaku.


I think him and Lukaku would make a great partnership
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 09:46:46 PM
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:46:55 PM
and just like that, McCarthy gets a junk goal.  NEVAR TAKE OUT MCCARTHY LMAO
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 09:46:58 PM
get in!!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:47:15 PM
Shit that McCarthy  :McCarthy:
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:47:25 PM
how the fuck are we winning this lol
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on April 09, 2016, 09:47:39 PM
Trust us to do that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
A break that we needed !!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:48:06 PM
How fucking Everton was THAT?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 09:48:12 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:48:18 PM
we are staying up, I say we are staying up
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 09:48:38 PM
Fuckin jokin 1-1
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 09:48:41 PM
First goal for the club. Typical.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
http://www.sadtrombone.com/
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
Top work blues. 60 seconds was that?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
Fucking hell
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 09:48:58 PM
Hahahhanahabanahahahahshh

Oh you can't make this shit up
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:49:09 PM
we are staying up, I say we are staying up

erm, nice one tone lid
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
McCarthy on his way off the pitch "That's fucking shit"
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Watford doing an Everton

Gitfting goals away. Strange feeling to be the team that does that.

On the other hand just as i finished above sentence Watford scorde!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 09, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
that better be a 60 yard pearler.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 09:49:28 PM
Everton that.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on April 09, 2016, 09:49:34 PM
Hahaha. So fucking Everton.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: dchans on April 09, 2016, 09:49:46 PM
fuck off stones

can we get rid please??  40m?  Fucking joke of a decision again and again
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on April 09, 2016, 09:49:47 PM
I see that a goals been scored from Everton Mints post, go to the BBC website to see whats happend and on the BBC live text they have Watford 0-1 Everton and Watford 1-1 Everton in the same update.....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
Hahahhanahabanahahahahshh

Oh you can't make this shit up

Where the fuck have you been all season?  lolol Anybody could make that up.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: smellybum on April 09, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Great play Stones lad. Not. Really is having a shocking game that lad.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
Suppose we were just unlucky to concede there.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 09, 2016, 09:50:23 PM
Everton that.

utter fucking shite as usual*

corrected.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 09, 2016, 09:50:29 PM
Only surprise that half was McCarthy scoring.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:50:32 PM
On the replay...the fuck was Stones doing on that corner??
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:50:50 PM
Haha, the one and only time John Stones actually decides to play around and piss about, he does that.

Seriously, seconds remain in the half, why in the ever loving christ does John just not put his foot through that and Row Z it?

You literally, in a single minute of football could not possibly get more Everton than that.

Stones fully to blame there, the stupid cunt.

WE are pathetic, armature, spineless, disorganized, cohesion less garbage.   
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 09:51:03 PM
Watford doing an Everton!
Don't like qouting myself but forget above... Back to usual buisness...
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 09:51:16 PM
I know it's wrong but I did laugh. It's so fucking typical.

At least we've got 45 minutes left to not do that again.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: snods on April 09, 2016, 09:51:31 PM
We never learn.
How many times does it have to happen before somebody does somthing about it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:51:37 PM
Suppose we were just unlucky to concede there.

Stones should have just skied it, hes been doing it all game and the one time he decides not too costs us a goal.

Only Everton could do that.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:52:06 PM
Wasn't bothered when we scored or conceded tbh.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:52:21 PM
Go in 1-0, Half time team talk is great, spirits up, something to build on.

Is there any wonder there is no chemistry between these players, when as a group you almost feel resigned that this is just gonna happen anyway.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on April 09, 2016, 09:52:38 PM
I know it's wrong but I did laugh. It's so fucking typical.

At least we've got 45 minutes left to not do that again.

I laughed too. Not sure why but it's just typical
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
Stones should have just skied it, hes been doing it all game and the one time he decides not too costs us a goal.

Or maybe Robles could've just not panicked and kicked it out for a corner?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 09:52:54 PM
Stones is fucking shite. A defender who costs you goal after goal is fucking shite regardless of how he looks strolling out of defence. Weve turned 40M down for possibly the most inept centre half of the season. Mistake after mistake after mistake.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 09:53:00 PM
I know it's wrong but I did laugh. It's so fucking typical.

At least we've got 45 minutes left to not do that again.
Don't get our hopes up ;)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 09:53:05 PM
We will score in stoppage time here and then concede again.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 09:53:21 PM
How can anyone defend this shite.

2 years of amateur stuff like this. No management in the squad whatsoever.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Thom on April 09, 2016, 09:53:47 PM
Hahahaha season in a nutshell that.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah, methinks we will see Funes Mori midweek, if not to start the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 09:54:24 PM
Fair play to you lads watching btw.

I've given up on this season.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on April 09, 2016, 09:54:29 PM
would rather he lose possession playing his way out than a nothing pass like that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 09:54:41 PM
Wasn't bothered when we scored or conceded tbh.

Nor me to be honest. Who cares. Our season is over and unless we sack the manager we can draw a line through next 1 too. Its all a bit nothingy. I couldnt really give a fuck at the moment
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 09, 2016, 09:54:45 PM
We never learn.
How many times does it have to happen before somebody does somthing about it.

I know it's wrong but I did laugh. It's so fucking typical.

At least we've got 45 minutes left to do that again.

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 09, 2016, 09:54:48 PM
We can't seem to defend a set piece for shit...
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
Good goal from McCarthy. Barry has played well. Everyone else has been either nonexistence or poor.

Lennon is a right sided player. He is obviously not comfortable centrally or on the left. It is a choice between Deulofeu and Lennon - you play one of them, not both. Mirallas or Cleverly should be starting over Lennon as our left midfield.

Stones with yet another poor decision, and he has had a generally poor game. Coleman at fault for yet another goal-- he was looking solidly defensively earlier this season, so at least there was that even if he was poor otherwise - not so anymore....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on April 09, 2016, 09:55:07 PM
stones can fk off with him, wtf is he pissing about again for, hes had the world telling him he needs to learn yet this moron thinks hes above that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
On the actual corner, Stones just spins around and falls on his ass, too.  Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on April 09, 2016, 09:56:43 PM
http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484

 (http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484)get him in FFS and double quick....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 09:56:43 PM
Mood not great here.

Id just said to @Rhys that we were lucky to score to avert a good booing as that had been dull for 45 mins.

But to then concede anyway, having scored in the 1 min of added time, was bad enough.

But to concede with all the hallmark mistakes of this period was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 09, 2016, 09:57:13 PM
One of the worst goals you'll ever see conceded from a corner. Is there any convincing argument for not having men on the posts?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 09:57:42 PM
for a supposedly passing side we can't string 3 passes together for the most part, really poor that first half, Barry probably being the best of a horrid lot
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 09, 2016, 09:57:48 PM
Haha, the one and only time John Stones actually decides to play around and piss about, he does that.

Seriously, seconds remain in the half, why in the ever loving christ does John just not put his foot through that and Row Z it?

You literally, in a single minute of football could not possibly get more Everton than that.

Stones fully to blame there, the stupid cunt.

WE are pathetic, armature, spineless, disorganized, cohesion less garbage.   

Agree with you, but the absolute crying shame about that was, Stones was faultless before that. Only Everton .... btw was that goal over a minute over the extra time, again ?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 09:57:52 PM
How can anyone defend this shite.

2 years of amateur stuff like this. No management in the squad whatsoever.

Is anybody still defending Martinez? I thought all of us who were earlier fucked off months ago.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
GLewis reporting from the front line there. Like our very own Kate Adie.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 09, 2016, 09:57:58 PM
Stones is fucking shite. A defender who costs you goal after goal is fucking shite regardless of how he looks strolling out of defence. Weve turned 40M down for possibly the most inept centre half of the season. Mistake after mistake after mistake.

Doesn't help he's not being coached correctly tho. Give the lad a break. He will come on leaps and bounds at a new club next season!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: smellybum on April 09, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
Looks like we won't be getting the Stones money to spend in the summer afterall. Which top club in their right mind would offer silly money for him at the moment? He is going backwards. He may as well just settle down for the summer, enjoy France sitting on a bench then back to Finch Farm he goes.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 09:58:10 PM

One of the worst goals you'll ever see conceded from a corner. Is there any convincing argument for not having men on the posts?

There'd be even more free men in the middle of the box?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 09:59:22 PM
Best bit was how the players went for the huddle after the goal "look lads, we can do this. Everyone focus. Just see it out for the next minute and let's regroup at half time"
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
stones can fk off with him, wtf is he pissing about again for, hes had the world telling him he needs to learn yet this moron thinks hes above that

Stones missed too much school . Thick is as thick does .
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 09, 2016, 09:59:59 PM
Agree with you, but the absolute crying shame about that was, Stones was faultless before that. Only Everton .... btw was that goal over a minute over the extra time, again ?

Remember any decent manager would have it drilled into his cb not to under any circumstances do that a minute before half time.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
It's time to lay all the blame on the manger when it's a reoccurring error.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 10:00:50 PM
Doesn't help he's not being coached correctly tho. Give the lad a break. He will come on leaps and bounds at a new club next season!

Everyone and their mother has told him to stop fucking about at the back. That is on him, and him alone. Martinez is surely at fault for most of the rest, but really, Stones knows that he has received a whole bunch of criticism on this very front. He just does not care because he thinks everyone else is wrong.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 09, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
GLewis reporting from the front line there. Like our very own Kate Adie.

Haha it's like a fkin war zone in here at times. He needs to.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:01:07 PM
What kind of odds can I get on Martinez bemoaning the softness of the goal we conceded while ignoring the good luck for the one we scored in his post-match presser?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 10:01:46 PM
There'd be even more free men in the middle of the box?

I think that just overly crowds the box, making it even easier for opposing players to get free by running their defenders off on each other.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 10:02:00 PM
http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484

 (http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484)get him in FFS and double quick....

There's no way we'll get Mourinho at Everton.  lolol
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: smellybum on April 09, 2016, 10:02:14 PM
Remember any decent manager would have it drilled into his cb not to under any circumstances do that a minute before half time.

Thing is though, you don't need that drilling into you. Surely you know that anyway. 1 up 1 minute left. Bang it into the top tier and run the clock down. Defending 101 that. I believe he might actually be a bit thick.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 10:02:45 PM
How can anyone defend this shite.

2 years of amateur stuff like this. No management in the squad whatsoever.

Ross will explain.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:02:54 PM
Sake

Switched the stream off after we scored as thought the half was done. Seems I'm not the only one who switched off!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:03:13 PM
Doesn't help he's not being coached correctly tho. Give the lad a break. He will come on leaps and bounds at a new club next season!

Probably doesnt but he does stuff that everyone whos ever watched a single football match knows he shouldnt be doing and he does it every single week. The lad is a circus act. Hes the Martinez equivilent of a centre half. Not fit for purpose. Hes been utterly dreadful this season. Youd struggle to find a centre half whos been at fault so much.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:03:33 PM
for a supposedly passing side we can't string 3 passes together for the most part, really poor that first half, Barry probably being the best of a horrid lot

This has been one of my big complaints about our supposed style -- we're not really any good in possession.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
We've got a day out at Wembley coming up though, so don't worry about any of this league shite.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:03:51 PM
we go 15th with a defeat today.

Haha. Lol.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 09, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
We've got a day out at Wembley coming up though, so don't worry about any of this league shite.

imagine if we'd sneaked past city....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
we go 15th with a defeat today.

Haha. Lol.

We are very lucky to have had Lukaku this season and that the bottom three are League 1 teams.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 09, 2016, 10:05:05 PM
http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484

 (http://www.everydaytips.co.uk/football/mourinho-next-everton-manager/2484)get him in FFS and double quick....
........would love this to be true  8)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 10:05:16 PM
At least we can all actually agree that criticism is warranted now, so no one is going to claim any of us are being overly negative....
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:05:28 PM
I know it's wrong but I did laugh. It's so fucking typical.

At least we've got 45 minutes left to not do that again.

Earlier in the season, I would have been furious at that goal. Laughter is a temporary improvement on that but if we continue down the same path, it's only a placeholder for genuine despair.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 09, 2016, 10:06:10 PM
Sake

Switched the stream off after we scored as thought the half was done. Seems I'm not the only one who switched off!

My stream died just as McCarthy made that challenge and froze, when it restarted Watford were kicking off, saw the score and was still laughing until......bollocks
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 10:06:18 PM
This has been one of my big complaints about our supposed style -- we're not really any good in possession.

We don't seem able to find any space at all at times and in the games when a bit of brilliance from Barkley or Deulofeu would do they don't turn up .

Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:06:46 PM
How the fuck is that on Martinez ?


Hahah what mate? You being serious here?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
One of the worst goals you'll ever see conceded from a corner. Is there any convincing argument for not having men on the posts?
You don't get the exciting games that involves Everton?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:07:01 PM
This has been one of my big complaints about our supposed style -- we're not really any good in possession.

We're not really much good at anything. Weve been involved in a few high scoring games but most weeks we arent remotely entertaining either
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
We've got a day out at Wembley coming up though, so don't worry about any of this league shite.

Yeah and you really can't argue with how Martinez has developed all the youngsters. I mean Stones - come on leaps and bounds. And Ross - if you've ever seen a player put in a more hard working performance, I'm yet to see it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:08:47 PM
Barkley's having his second shocker in a row.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:08:55 PM
What kind of odds can I get on Martinez bemoaning the softness of the goal we conceded while ignoring the good luck for the one we scored in his post-match presser?

SPOT FUCKING ON.  You won't see a junkier goal in the Prem than the one McCarthy got (and credit for him being a junkyard dog about it).  But that's why you don't bitch and moan about "luck" - over time it ALWAYS balances the fuck out.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 10:08:55 PM
This has been one of my big complaints about our supposed style -- we're not really any good in possession.
That is really one big flaw if you wish to be the team that wins the posession stat......
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:09:10 PM
How the fuck is that on Martinez ?

He's asking his players to do something they aren't good at.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 10:09:25 PM
Hahah what mate? You being serious here?

He is being serious. I think some posters are as deluded as the great man himself.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:09:32 PM
Yeah and you really can't argue with how Martinez has developed all the youngsters. I mean Stones - come on leaps and bounds. And Ross - if you've ever seen a player put in a more hard working performance, I'm yet to see it.

Plays them, trusts them and teaches them the square route of fuck all about the basics of the game. He appears to have a do what you like approach to managing the young players.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
We are very lucky to have had Lukaku this season and that the bottom three are League 1 teams.
This misconception needs to be reigned in.  We create decent chances that any decent quality striker would score.  You can't look back on his goals this season and think that they're all because it was him.  You could even go as far as looking at the chances he's missed and what he doesn't bring to the team.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 09, 2016, 10:10:30 PM
Yeah and you really can't argue with how Martinez has developed all the youngsters. I mean Stones - come on leaps and bounds. And Ross - if you've ever seen a player put in a more hard working performance, I'm yet to see it.

Me thinks there are a few players here saving themsvelves  for the semi, any real manager would take action.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 10:10:36 PM
I can't wait for Martinez to get sacked, it'll be like the grey skies parting.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 10:11:41 PM
Anyone else think Barkley has lost some pace, or at least looks more laboured than in the past? Just not explosive today.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:12:00 PM
Lennon missed the target!

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 10:12:59 PM
This misconception needs to be reigned in.  We create decent chances that any decent quality striker would score.  You can't look back on his goals this season and think that they're all because it was him.  You could even go as far as looking at the chances he's missed and what he doesn't bring to the team.

...
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:13:29 PM
Me thinks there are a few players here saving themsvelves  for the semi, any real manager would take action.

If that's the case then Barkleys been saving himself for the past 6 weeks
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 09, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
SPOT FUCKING ON.  You won't see a junkier goal in the Prem than the one McCarthy got (and credit for him being a junkyard dog about it).  But that's why you don't bitch and moan about "luck" - over time it ALWAYS balances the fuck out.
Ingemar Stenmark, slalom legend, once said to a reporter; The more I train the luckier I seem to be.

Some truth in that!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
Stones needs a firmer hand now, and someone to instruct him on the fundamentals.  RM was the right manager for him the past 2 seasons, but not now.  I do think he was right to drop him, but he was unable to do the necessary work behind the scenes preparing Stones to thrive when he DID get back in the XI.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:14:01 PM
We're very adept at turning our own corners into opposition attacks.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 10:15:31 PM
Barkley cant justify his place in this form. Shite.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 09, 2016, 10:15:33 PM
GLewis reporting from the front line there. Like our very own Kate Adie.

Hahaha brilliant, BD, it really was just like that!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
Ingemar Stenmark, slalom legend, once said to a reporter; The more I train the luckier I seem to be.

Some truth in that!

Definitely, the saying about luck being where preparation meets opportunity.  There is some entropy in the world (sport and otherwise), but you still have to be in position to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 10:15:59 PM
Hahah what mate? You being serious here?

Quoted the wrong post .
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:16:09 PM
Lennon getting into the game now at least. Deulofeu still seems to be regaining confidence.

Barkley is having a bit of a stinker. Does Osman not get a cameo anymore? The trade off between those two I thought used to work pretty well.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
Newcastle sinking without trace, getting stuffed 3-0.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:17:30 PM
Lennon missed the target!

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Last good aspect of the season, blown all to fuck.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on April 09, 2016, 10:18:46 PM
when did we sell lukaku and has mcgeady got a delboy suit on
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:18:50 PM
Shit damn fuck
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:19:01 PM
Newcastle sinking without trace, getting stuffed 3-0.

Benitez is apparently on 5m to keep them up. A completely overrated manager.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:19:08 PM
Simple headed clearance from attacking cross ---> 3 on 3 counterattack against

Your 2015-16 Everton in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:20:22 PM
On the bright side weve nowt to worry about in terms of barca taking Deulofeu back
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
If Robles is the answer then I don't want to know the question.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:22:17 PM
If winning is the question then we don't know the answer.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:22:41 PM
On the bright side weve nowt to worry about in terms of barca taking Deulofeu back

How has that happened? Another weird player management situation for me. He was confident and getting assist after assist then we don't seem him for months and it looks like all his confidence is drained.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:22:57 PM
If Robles is the answer then I don't want to know the question.

He's a pretty good #2.  But he's a #2.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:23:02 PM
Whoever decides where our players stand is having a nightmare this season.

I'm not ruling out rogue players that refuse to position themselves where they're asked. But it's not likely.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
I wonder who Cleverley is coming on for...I'd imagine it's going to be Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
good sub
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:24:14 PM
He's a pretty good #2.  But he's a #2.

I had a pretty good number 2 before, I wouldn't put that in goal either.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:24:44 PM
Definitely shaking off the rust today, Barry.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
Nope Barkley off.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
Get him off - passenger again.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:25:49 PM
I had a pretty good number 2 before, I wouldn't put that in goal either.

Hey man, I'm pretty old. If I was drinking the night before...you better believe that would keep the opposition out of the attacking area.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Watford looking for so many cheap free kicks. Looks like they're just playing for set pieces.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Fuck me this is shite. Pumping it long into Rom's head, with no-one within 25 yards of him.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:26:50 PM
Baines is becoming adept at defending 2 v. 1 situations. It's all that practice, for club and country.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
Fuck me this is shite. Pumping it long into Rom's head, with no-one within 25 yards of him.

We should be playing 2 up top if that's our plan.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 10:27:16 PM
Boredshitless
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 09, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
This team is suffering under Martinez. We are as predictable as snow in Alaska and have no confidence... how he has the nerve to question Baines's assessment shows how detached he is or has become from the players... got to go and the sooner the better, semi final or not.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:29:25 PM
On another note, Watford are fucking shite. How are they not relegation candidates?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:29:50 PM
Our final ball has been woeful.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 10:29:50 PM
Great run Seamie !
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:30:16 PM
Lovely play by Rom to set up Lennon.  Good on him for not hanging his head.  Love Big Rom always.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
We should be playing 2 up top if that's our plan.
We should be playing 2 up top period.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:30:19 PM
Another good move. Unlucky Lennon
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
On another note, Watford are fucking shite. How are they not relegation candidates?

Look at who the bottom 3 are.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:31:04 PM
Much better when we play it around like that.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 09, 2016, 10:31:28 PM
Better Blues - come on !
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 09, 2016, 10:31:39 PM
This misconception needs to be reigned in.  We create decent chances that any decent quality striker would score.  You can't look back on his goals this season and think that they're all because it was him.  You could even go as far as looking at the chances he's missed and what he doesn't bring to the team.
WHAT.THE.ABSOLUTE.FUCK??????

i am seriously worried about our fanbase after this comment, fucking hell.....wow.......(weeps)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:31:58 PM
Is anybody paying attention to Guedioura's positioning?

To start a counterattack, all our opponent needs to do is stand a player right there. Loads of space to pick up a clearance, turn, and run.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:32:35 PM
On another note, Watford are fucking shite. How are they not relegation candidates?

They've just come up, and have made themselves solid and resilient. This is a brilliant season for them. Leicester has overshadowed it obviously.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 10:33:16 PM
Need more of a goal threat higher up the pitch with Lukaku, Deulofue off for Mirallas?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
WHAT.THE.ABSOLUTE.FUCK??????

i am seriously worried about our fanbase after this comment, fucking hell.....wow.......(weeps)

Also the goals that others have scored BECAUSE Rom is on the pitch.  He is a special, once in a generation player.  Everyone will realize that once he's gone.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
Re the crowd there's a general undercurrent of discontent which is pretty obvious.

But people are fuming at the slightest thing.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:34:20 PM
What are we doing there?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:34:30 PM
Need more of a goal threat higher up the pitch with Lukaku, Deulofue off for Mirallas?

good idea
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
Who's swapped deulofeus boots?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 09, 2016, 10:35:25 PM
Great tackle .
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:35:48 PM
Only Niasse can save us now.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:36:13 PM
Re the crowd there's a general undercurrent of discontent which is pretty obvious.

But people are fuming at the slightest thing.

Question: Do we think the crowd would be jumping on every little thing if the form was better overall?

I say no but maybe I'm just blinded by being so firmly against Martinez.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
Who's swapped deulofeus boots?

They're his boots they're just on the wrong feet.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 10:36:35 PM
WHAT.THE.ABSOLUTE.FUCK??????

i am seriously worried about our fanbase after this comment, fucking hell.....wow.......(weeps)
How does it?  If we sell Lukaku were not going to be playing with 10 men next season.  We'll have used the money we get to bring in a good quality replacement who we may actually build a style of play around, as we're certainly not playing to Lukaku's strengths.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:36:41 PM
Niasse going to make another cameo? Did he make the bench today?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
well played, Ross!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:37:20 PM

Re the crowd there's a general undercurrent of discontent which is pretty obvious.

But people are fuming at the slightest thing.

Any chance of a video at full time?  Will dm you my number for Whatsapp if you could mate?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 10:37:21 PM
This is shit.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on April 09, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
22 pages on an away. Says alot
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
How does it?  If we sell Lukaku were not going to be playing with 10 men next season.  We'll have used the money we get to bring in a good quality replacement who we may actually build a style of play around, as we're certainly not playing to Lukaku's strengths.

Lukaku is the best striker we've had in yeeeears. We're a better side with him in it and being 14th in the table we're unlikely to attract anyone near his level. Imagine if we'd had to rely on Kone all season instead of Lukaku.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
If you were Mirallas could you honestly be arsed?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:39:23 PM
If you were Mirallas could you honestly be arsed?

I assume he wants to go to Euros.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:39:28 PM
If you were Mirallas could you honestly be arsed?

You just never know with him.  COMPLETELY unpredictable.  You know he'll shoot, though.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:39:46 PM
If you were Mirallas could you honestly be arsed?

Yes. Giving a sh*t should be the bare minimum for any PL player.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 09, 2016, 10:39:50 PM
Also the goals that others have scored BECAUSE Rom is on the pitch.  He is a special, once in a generation player.  Everyone will realize that once he's gone.

since i have been following everton, I can remember,
Young (barely)
Royle
Latchford
Sharp
Gray.

who I class as top strikers, and Lukaku IMO,can become better than all,except young. and when you think that time period is over 50 fucking years, the total lack of top strikers at our club is shocking. yet our fans think he is not good enough. FUCK OFF!

I dread to think what will follow, Niasse? Kone?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:41:29 PM
You just never know with him.  COMPLETELY unpredictable.  You know he'll shoot, though.

Hey man - is the Joshua fight going to be on NBC?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 09, 2016, 10:41:48 PM
since i have been following everton, I can remember,
Young (barely)
Royle
Latchford
Sharp
Gray.

who I class as top strikers, and Lukaku IMO,can become better than all,except young. and when you think that time period is over 50 fucking years, the total lack of top strikers at our club is shocking. yet our fans think he is not good enough. FUCK OFF!

I dread to think what will follow, Niasse? Kone?

And this shit about Everton having so many quality number 9s is definitely a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:43:38 PM
Two in a row that could have been pulled back to the edge of the box from the right
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 10:43:57 PM
since i have been following everton, I can remember,
Young (barely)
Royle
Latchford
Sharp
Gray.

who I class as top strikers, and Lukaku IMO,can become better than all,except young. and when you think that time period is over 50 fucking years, the total lack of top strikers at our club is shocking. yet our fans think he is not good enough. FUCK OFF!

I dread to think what will follow, Niasse? Kone?
The important thing in you post is 'can'.  If he played with a striking partner he'd be an absolute beast.  Look at how happier he is when Kone or Naismith was playing with him? 

The way we play we don't get anywhere near the best out of him, and we could replace him with someone more suited to the role we're currently asking of him with the kings ransom we'll receive.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:44:17 PM
Man our crosses have been poor.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:44:39 PM
14th if it stays like this. Lol
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 09, 2016, 10:45:12 PM
This is boring
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 09, 2016, 10:45:14 PM
This is like watching the world's worst vampire hunters - every cross has missed its target.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:45:31 PM
14th if it stays like this. Lol

If we weren't so unlucky this season we could be 10th.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
Come on Bainsey lad
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
The important thing in you post is 'can'.  If he played with a striking partner he'd be an absolute beast.  Look at how happier he is when Kone or Naismith was playing with him? 

The way we play we don't get anywhere near the best out of him, and we could replace him with someone more suited to the role we're currently asking of him with the kings ransom we'll receive.

I'd rather change Martinez and the way we play than lose Lukaku. We will amazingly well to get as good a finisher as him. Our track record hasn't exactly been great.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:46:08 PM
Mirallas showing a little something here.

Baines to shoot?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:46:25 PM
I don't care how erratic, petulant etc Mirallas is, if he plays more we win more. Yet another fucking ridiculous decision not to give him more game time.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:46:40 PM
Mirallas has been decent so far.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:46:48 PM
Hey man - is the Joshua fight going to be on NBC?

Dunno.  Is that boxing, or the thingy where they kick each other in the head?  Also, what is the date?  I will check.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 09, 2016, 10:46:52 PM
I couldn't hear well -- was the crowd just singing for Baines?

If so, well played.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:47:11 PM
Baines has been poor from these of late. I think Mirallas fancies it anyhow.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:47:18 PM

I couldn't hear well -- was the crowd just singing for Baines?

If so, well played.

Nope. Mirallas
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
Oh man you don't want jags injured.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:48:20 PM
Mirallas...MOTM.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
Dunno.  Is that boxing, or the thingy where they kick each other in the head?  Also, what is the date?  I will check.

Yeah boxing. Tonight. They just mentioned it on the commentary so thought maybe.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 09, 2016, 10:48:38 PM
Lukaku's got to bury that
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2016, 10:48:59 PM
I'd rather change Martinez and the way we play than lose Lukaku. We will amazingly well to get as good a finisher as him. Our track record hasn't exactly been great.
Definitely.  Absolutely change the way we play.  Its criminal how isolated he's being left and asked to play 90 mins every game.

I've not said he's shit.  I've not questioned his class or potential.  All I've said is that losing him with the money we'll get isn't a cue for automatic relegation.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on April 09, 2016, 10:49:04 PM
since i have been following everton, I can remember,
Young (barely)
Royle
Latchford
Sharp
Gray.

who I class as top strikers, and Lukaku IMO,can become better than all,except young. and when you think that time period is over 50 fucking years, the total lack of top strikers at our club is shocking. yet our fans think he is not good enough. FUCK OFF!

I dread to think what will follow, Niasse? Kone?


That Gary Lineker bloke was pretty damn good too
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:49:46 PM
Mori and Stones why the fuck not
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:49:50 PM
I guess my stream is late. I hope Jagielka is ok.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on April 09, 2016, 10:50:06 PM
14 Everton              39
15 Watford              38
16 Crystal Palace     37
17 Norwich City       31

What a manager
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 10:50:09 PM
Using Kev as an "impact sub" is the right way to go.  And most managers wouldn't put up with his shit at all.  He ALWAYS sucks as a starter.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 09, 2016, 10:50:44 PM

That Gary Lineker bloke was pretty damn good too

1 season, and we played better without him.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:51:30 PM
Sound save from Robles that to be fair.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 10:51:54 PM
Imagine if this was the cup final
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 09, 2016, 10:52:43 PM
Losing Jags is a big big loss. He's been holding a lot of our shit defending together with nothing more than experience. I don't think we should expect anything from here on in.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on April 09, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
As it stands we have dropped to 14th on goal difference. Martinez will say the margins are small.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 09, 2016, 10:53:27 PM
Losing Jags is a big big loss. He's been holding a lot of our shit defending together with nothing more than experience. I don't think we should expect anything from here on in.

here on in ?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 10:53:30 PM
Another step towards the magical 40 points, lads.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 09, 2016, 10:53:41 PM
since i have been following everton, I can remember,
Young (barely)
Royle
Latchford
Sharp
Gray.

who I class as top strikers, and Lukaku IMO,can become better than all,except young. and when you think that time period is over 50 fucking years, the total lack of top strikers at our club is shocking. yet our fans think he is not good enough. FUCK OFF!

I dread to think what will follow, Niasse? Kone?
I agree but the difference for me is those other strikers played in a team, so they didn't have to special in that sense, just good in the team and able to do their jobs... barring Young I guess. He was special.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 10:53:44 PM
Have we been training with deflated footballs?  Every cross over hit today
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
Oh well, what's the next game?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:54:11 PM
14th man, fucking 14th with this team.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 09, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
Another step towards the magical 40 points, lads.

Dreamland
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 10:54:18 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 09, 2016, 10:54:28 PM
Fucking yawn. 1 point from 12.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 09, 2016, 10:54:35 PM
Robles MOTM.


Over and out.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
14th place.

Martinez has to go.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 09, 2016, 10:55:00 PM
MOM Robles really, even if he was crap for their goal.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 10:55:12 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

Aye, at this rate we might even hit 44 points by the end of the season, which surely will guarantee safety.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on April 09, 2016, 10:55:18 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

14th in the League mate. 14th lolol
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on April 09, 2016, 10:55:32 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

Hhahahhahahahhahahahhaaha haven't you got anything better to do? seriously
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 09, 2016, 10:55:40 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

Really?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 10:56:33 PM
I have honestly never watched an Everton game, and been less bothered about the result, than today.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 09, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
here on in ?



I'm thinking about the defence when we play the semi. Stones and Mori are like the chuckle brothers.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: starblood on April 09, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
Using Kev as an "impact sub" is the right way to go.  And most managers wouldn't put up with his shit at all.  He ALWAYS sucks as a starter.

That's a ridiculous claim, and untrue!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
I have honestly never watched an Everton game, and been less bothered about the result, than today.

That's the dangerous thing. You can't help but feel even the players feel that way at the moment.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 10:58:03 PM
That's a ridiculous claim, and untrue!

Yeah, he's shite when he comes on as well.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 09, 2016, 10:58:15 PM
Bills at the game....

Hopefully to give him his marching orders this eve.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2016, 10:58:18 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

In fucking isolation
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: john e on April 09, 2016, 10:59:02 PM
Utter shite! get rid of the clown! before its to late :titanic:
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
That was shite.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 09, 2016, 10:59:37 PM
Have we been training with deflated footballs?  Every cross over hit today

It wouldn't surprise me if we had and Martinez had some hi tech explanation for doing it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 11:00:16 PM
Using Kev as an "impact sub" is the right way to go.  And most managers wouldn't put up with his shit at all.  He ALWAYS sucks as a starter.

Absurd. He does not always suck as a starter. He was one of our best players for three seasons in a row, where he started much more often than he did not. Yes, he has been a bit petulant and even more inconsistent this season, but he has been treated like absolutely shite by Martinez, who we now all realize is not the eminently reasonable man we thought he was.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: starblood on April 09, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
Yeah, he's shite when he comes on as well.

If you say so fella  :headbang:
Title: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 11:00:35 PM
The thing is that if you'd watched this game and the first fixture, you would conclude that these were two teams at the same level. And when you look at the table it shows that. We are where we belong.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: snods on April 09, 2016, 11:00:46 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.
Performance and result not good enough with these players.
Martinez has to go for the future of our great club.
14th and sinking where will we end up thats the worry
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on April 09, 2016, 11:01:19 PM
haha swansea and bourmouth are above us they were relegation candidates a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on April 09, 2016, 11:01:21 PM
Difficult to tell not seeing the game, but slipping to 14th and possibly 15th or even 16th soon, surely Moshira is the key man now. I am told that Bill rarely goes to games because of his health. Someone must be decisive, or is it best to see how the  FA Cup pans out and then wield the axe? Moshira surely will not hand millions to RM to spend? 
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 09, 2016, 11:01:39 PM
Boring shite by the sounds of it. Glad i'm spending 90 mins doing something else more productive than watching this garbage.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 11:02:03 PM
Nah, a point against Watford who have lost four on the bounce is a poor result.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
I don't even know what our plan A is anymore.

What is our footballing identity under Martinez? Anyone?

We seem to be eschewing the patient build up only to have substituted it with hitting it long to the very isolated big man most of the time. Dire.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 11:05:54 PM
Not a great game but a point away from home isn't a bad result.

After each of the previous 4 games you've come on and said the result was ok or not that bad in the circumstances. How do you feel about our run of 1 point from those games?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 09, 2016, 11:05:55 PM
Haha! Fucking hell, two points above Palace now. How much bad luck must they have had this season?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 11:06:02 PM
Nah, a point against Watford who have lost four on the bounce is a poor result.

I don't get why people are even trying to defend outcomes anymore. We should all just jump on the negative train and at least find some consensus and camaraderie in our shared misery. We can get excited again for the semifinal and then this summer when we, hopefully, get a new manager, but really should try to avoid doing so otherwise.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on April 09, 2016, 11:06:06 PM
1 season, and we played better without him.

True but 30 goals in 41 games deserves an honorable mention when we are talking about Everton goalscorers:)
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 09, 2016, 11:06:51 PM
In the 90s when we were proper shite I still felt passionate about watching us play but this shit right now is draining the life out of me
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 11:07:34 PM
If you say so fella  :headbang:

What has he done other than run around a bit and get sent off recently?.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2016, 11:09:27 PM
Every passing moment he is making more and more depressed watching Everton.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 11:09:34 PM
After each of the previous 4 games you've come on and said the result was ok or not that bad in the circumstances. How do you feel about our run of 1 point from those games?

I really haven't mate, I'd never be happy with Everton losing.

Obviously I'm not happy with 1 point in 12 either.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: snods on April 09, 2016, 11:10:12 PM
In the 90s when we were proper shite I still felt passionate about watching us play but this shit right now is draining the life out of me
In the 90s we had a lot less quality squad.
We now have great players who are unfit and lack desire,spirit and hunger.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 09, 2016, 11:11:47 PM
What was the last good game Mirallas had as a starter?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 11:12:17 PM
What has he done other than run around a bit and get sent off recently?.

Kind of the consequence of unreasonably being benched and then trying to come on, sometimes with only a minute to go, and try to make something happen and prove you should be playing more, all while incredibly frustrated that your absurd manager is not playing you when you have consistently contributed more than the dross that is starting over you for the past three years straight.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 09, 2016, 11:13:09 PM
I hope everyone has their post-match bullshit bingo sheet ready.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 09, 2016, 11:13:45 PM
Kind of the consequence of unreasonably being benched and then trying to come on, sometimes with only a minute to go, and try to make something happen and prove you should be playing more, all while incredibly frustrated that your absurd manager is not playing you when you have consistently contributed more than the dross that is starting over you for the past three years straight.

He hasn't done anything to deserve a start over early Deulofeu and Lennon.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on April 09, 2016, 11:15:00 PM
Today was the perfect result! We all want Martinez exposed as the fraud he is but we love the team...the players tried hard but are so shackled by inept tactics and a crisis in confidence that its all huff and puff...if we had won Martinez would've been beaming and saying how "we had a great week of training and the players are buying into his vision"
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 09, 2016, 11:15:12 PM
The only positive I can take from that game is that Robles looked decent.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 11:15:33 PM

I hope everyone has their post-match bullshit bingo sheet ready.

I could do with a laugh. Quite looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 09, 2016, 11:15:43 PM
He hasn't done anything to deserve a start over early Deulofeu and Lennon.

Should have been starting over Kone and Cleverly. And it is kind of hard to prove that you should be playing when you don't get playing time.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 11:16:04 PM
I really haven't mate, I'd never be happy with Everton losing.

Obviously I'm not happy with 1 point in 12 either.

I'd go back and search but I can't be arsed. Obviously you haven't said "great result!" but every time it's been "well United/Arsenal/West Ham are a top side and we ran them close just one of those things" type comments.

In isolation you might have been right.

I'm asking you to reflect on the games not in isolation. How can you continue to downplay what's going on at the club?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: starblood on April 09, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
What has he done other than run around a bit and get sent off recently?.

He hasn't been played recently, that's the whole point. When he is played however, and given a decent amount of time he scores or assists invariably. He started against Villa away last month and got two assists.

You should know this if you've followed Everton for any amount of time - go and have a look at his stats.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
We are sleep walking into danger here without even realising it.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: starblood on April 09, 2016, 11:18:53 PM
What was the last good game Mirallas had as a starter?

Man of the match performance against Villa last month, and two assists.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 09, 2016, 11:19:11 PM
We are sleep walking into danger here without even realising it.

not this season we're not


and as if the noise out of people is "not realising it"


that's like when every single person praised Lee Carsley and called him the unsung hero!
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 09, 2016, 11:19:47 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Redartin on April 09, 2016, 11:20:44 PM
Still no 40 points and a defeat mid week could put us 15th, an area Booby should feel comfortable in.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 09, 2016, 11:24:00 PM
To be fair to Benitez, in my eyes relegating Newcastle will be the greatest achievement of his managerial career.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 09, 2016, 11:29:46 PM
Just to clear things up we need 4 more points from the remaining 7 games to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 09, 2016, 11:30:45 PM
Still no 40 points and a defeat mid week could put us 15th, an area Booby should feel comfortable in.

It's creeping up on us, isn't it?

Very small chance it happens, but still. There's no way in hell we should be down where we are.

And when you think about it. This season, we were a bad Lukaku injury away from being in the relegation battle. That's all it would have took.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2016, 11:32:46 PM
I really haven't mate, I'd never be happy with Everton losing.

Obviously I'm not happy with 1 point in 12 either.

What's your thoughts on us being 14th?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 09, 2016, 11:34:34 PM
What's your thoughts on us being 14th?

Don't indulge him.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 09, 2016, 11:34:50 PM
Abject depressing shite again.  Watching us is an utter chore
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on April 09, 2016, 11:35:39 PM
It is shite, but let us not pretend we might go down this season. There is no chance of that. The real risk is next season and if Bill/Moshira allows him another season then tighten your seatbelts.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 09, 2016, 11:37:29 PM
Proper mid table clash that.

Crap again.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 09, 2016, 11:37:55 PM
It is shite, but let us not pretend we might go down this season. There is no chance of that. The real risk is next season and if Bill/Moshira allows him another season then tighten your seatbelts.

I thought it would take 2 more seasons.

But I've changed my mind. We will be in for a rough season next year if he's still around.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 09, 2016, 11:39:19 PM
What's your thoughts on us being 14th?

I think we should be doing better clearly.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 09, 2016, 11:43:02 PM
I think we should be doing better clearly.

Unreal.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 09, 2016, 11:44:02 PM

Proper mid table clash that.

Crap again.

Against poor individuals this time though.

Really should have pushed on to a win in the second half.

They had a good shape and plan for the first 60 mins but their level dropped after that.

I'm struggling to see what we're trying to do.

Without getting into it all again here, Baines did describe it accurately in what he said last weekend.

No chances in the box outside of rebounds, barely any coordinated moves etc.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Corinthian on April 09, 2016, 11:53:55 PM
 :Horse: :Horse:
Just to clear things up we need 4 more points from the remaining 7 games to avoid relegation.

That's just fine then, thank fuck we're not having a bad season...  :Horse:
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Fern on April 09, 2016, 11:56:52 PM
Unreal.

Either this guy is a Kopite on a long term wind up or he's sending messages from a mental asylum.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 09, 2016, 11:59:49 PM
Either this guy is a Kopite on a long term wind up or he's sending messages from a mental asylum.

Or he is Dennis Lawrence
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Klown-Shoes on April 10, 2016, 12:13:37 AM
It is shite, but let us not pretend we might go down this season. There is no chance of that. The real risk is next season and if Bill/Moshira allows him another season then tighten your seatbelts.

straightjackets.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Waltzer on April 10, 2016, 12:36:14 AM
Trying to see things from the view point of the pro Martinez fans, surely a draw is a good result and as Martinez said in his press conference it was 'a complete performance' that must be really good, surely?
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Thom on April 10, 2016, 12:42:55 AM
Against poor individuals this time though.

Really should have pushed on to a win in the second half.

They had a good shape and plan for the first 60 mins but their level dropped after that.

I'm struggling to see what we're trying to do.

Without getting into it all again here, Baines did describe it accurately in what he said last weekend.

No chances in the box outside of rebounds, barely any coordinated moves etc.

There's only two moves that we put together that you could call 'exciting' - the one on 8 minutes that saw Barkley's cross to Deulofeu cut out, after some neat one touch passing, and then the one that led to Lukaku backheeling to Lennon to fire at goal.

Of course, we had chances to score (Mirallas fk, Lukaku rebound, Lennon's two chances and Deulofeu low cross that was cut out) but it's not good enough for a team that is, apparently, set up to attack.

39 points from 31 league matches. How anyone can defend that is baffling.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 10, 2016, 12:45:35 AM
Truly awful display have no confidence in where our next " win" is going to come from, our passing and tackling are abysmal. As well as Martinez going, do we need a cull as well ? No rhyme or reason to our play at all, the only progress on show were the banners in the crowd.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Dirty Ticket on April 10, 2016, 12:45:55 AM
Against poor individuals this time though.

Really should have pushed on to a win in the second half.

They had a good shape and plan for the first 60 mins but their level dropped after that.

I'm struggling to see what we're trying to do.

Without getting into it all again here, Baines did describe it accurately in what he said last weekend.

No chances in the box outside of rebounds, barely any coordinated moves etc.
its like we have no initiative ourselves and leave the opposition to make the first move.. translation = we`re hopeless. with these fucken players too, its a fucken crime
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 10, 2016, 12:55:27 AM
Turned it off after 44 minutes and wasn't even bothered about missing the goal (and another), it was just so awful and as said, there's no coherence in the side at all whilst Stones went from Beresi to Bramble when on the ball.

Just counting down the days until Martinez leaves.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 10, 2016, 01:02:23 AM
Oh, and sorry, but doesn't look like NBC nor NBCSN is televising boxing tonight.  Probably a pay-per-view thing.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 10, 2016, 01:53:49 AM
Unreal.

Youwant us to be doing worse obviously
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 10, 2016, 01:56:53 AM
Jags a major doubt for Wednesday and potentially the semi. Confirmed as a hamstring injury and having scan tomorrow.

Also it turns out Barkley was subbed because he injured his knee and not, as I had assumed, because his impression of tortoise high on ketamine wasn't doing us any favours.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 10, 2016, 02:21:17 AM
I think (and hope) he knows his days are numbered and he's just doing it for the media. But he's making himself look an absolute tool. And good cos he just needs to fuck off now.
It shows a lack of understanding or blatant disregard for what the players are lacking. It's becoming more and more poisonous by the week. If he's still here next season I fear who will want to leave. Just do one Roberto and take Silent Graeme with you.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: sootyjrw on April 10, 2016, 02:34:46 AM
Just do one Roberto and take Silent Graeme with you.

And hopefully the man/men who appointed you, who offered a new five year deal after the success of finishing 5th, proving ambition is truly lacking the boardroom.

Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 10, 2016, 03:12:21 AM
Jags a major doubt for Wednesday and potentially the semi. Confirmed as a hamstring injury and having scan tomorrow.

Also it turns out Barkley was subbed because he injured his knee and not, as I had assumed, because his impression of tortoise high on ketamine wasn't doing us any favours.

He was doing quite well in the first half, but Watford negated the danger by kicking lumps out of him.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 10, 2016, 03:34:48 AM
We really miss an attacking threat from set pieces. Mori back in the team will really help us.

An individual error again cost us 3 points. Robles was good but so was Gomez.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 10, 2016, 05:36:09 AM
We really miss an attacking threat from set pieces. Mori back in the team will really help us.

An individual error again cost us 3 points. Robles was good but so was Gomez.

Mori is a huge miss on set pieces, which are a real weakness of ours. We actually look dangerous on an attacking corner when he plays, we seemingly have too few threats otherwise (although Jagielka was a little unlucky last time out).
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 10, 2016, 05:58:37 AM
Mori is a huge miss on set pieces, which are a real weakness of ours. We actually look dangerous on an attacking corner when he plays, we seemingly have too few threats otherwise (although Jagielka was a little unlucky last time out).
Coleman was a threat for two games around Xmas, and now seems to have reverted to not being involved.
Title: Re: Watford v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 10, 2016, 02:52:00 PM
Looks like a good decision now to get away for the weekend and miss everything. It all sounds so depressing.