December 16, 2017, 03:54:27 AM

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What should we do? (RESET 29 SEPTEMBER, AFTER LIMASSOL GAME)

Fire him now before our season goes tits up
Give him till Christmas.. If performances and results aren't where they should be for what he's spent, he's out
Let's just see how things are at the end of the season
The season has barely begun, he's a great manager and we should get 100% behind him
Ohhh Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes...
Fuck off with your polls, you cunt

Author Topic: Should we sack Koeman?  (Read 62726 times)

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October 02, 2017, 02:28:57 AM
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Macca77


Odds on to be sacked with most bookies now

deCoubertin

October 02, 2017, 02:30:47 AM
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charlatan


If as someone posted, we have Chelsea  (cup), Lyon (europa) and arsenal (league) coming next, then we will know exactly where we are after those.
Defeats against Chelsea and Lyon mean we are out of those competitions and another defeat in league means rock bottom moral.
That's when I believe koeman should be sacked.

Why bother?  We know what will happen now.  Get rid

October 02, 2017, 02:32:38 AM
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SANA_DR0


Odds on to be sacked with most bookies now

Will he get a runners up medal for coming 2nd in the sack race?
Unsworth has a 100% League record at home
Norwich 3-0 15th May 2016
Watford 3-2 5th Nov 2017
West Ham 4-0 29th Nov 2017
To Be Continued.....


October 02, 2017, 02:33:45 AM
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MmmBlueRamirez


Keep going on the BBC sport website hoping for the Koeman sacked headline. Really can't stand them man.

Ditto.

I can't stand watching us at the moment.
Farming Karma like the Dalai Llama

October 02, 2017, 02:36:55 AM
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Alfie Noakes


Considering Koeman is one of the top earners, they should try and get Tuchel in, no matter what it costs.

October 02, 2017, 02:53:31 AM
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wepull


I am not sure about player's confidence but Koeman is surely scared and has no confidence in himself.

Look at the number of changes which goes on every match. Even after a win we change approx 3-4 players every match and start from the scratch where he is still trying to find out what works and what doesn't and he has no idea about it. No manager in his proper mind would have started with Niasse, he was piss poor with very little technical abilities which were quite evident. He's just trying everything out to please the fans at the same time trying out what he thinks should work.

Our team was seriously poor today, we had Vlasic and Sig wide and no one in the centre who can do anything with the ball just made it difficult to build a decent play in. We just didn't have players who could create something from the centre and having two forwards who like to run just from the top was a poor decision.

From last year when we hit the form, we have lost 1 player i.e. Lukaku and maybe 2 with the injury of Barkley(someone he didn't want); and if he doesn't know what to do with the personnel he bought and we look so clueless on the pitch then he deserves to go and I don't think we should be wasting any time in doing that. Can't go through one more season of being meh overall which would be like 3 out of last 4 seasons(including this one). Everton is just killing the love for football for me.


October 02, 2017, 03:06:26 AM
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Redartin


Sack him and fuck up his aspirations of managing Barcelona the same way he fucked up Everton's.
We waited for years to have a financial backer and when we finally get one the money is squandered on shite.

October 02, 2017, 03:15:05 AM
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Smingers


When threads get this big the subject never happens. See the N'Zogbia threas

LOCK THE THREAD OR KOEMAN WILL BE HERE FOREVER

Nzogbia lol!

October 02, 2017, 03:18:54 AM
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Ravardo


Anyone watching atalanta its 2-2 against juventus

October 02, 2017, 03:19:40 AM
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Realist


Sack him and fuck up his aspirations of managing Barcelona the same way he fucked up Everton's.
We waited for years to have a financial backer and when we finally get one the money is squandered on shite.
He wouldn't get the job at Barca's B team, he's fucking useless

October 02, 2017, 03:34:46 AM
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kramer0


The sooner we make a change, the better. The new manager boost is our best chance of salvaging anything from this season and, generally speaking, probably our best chance of seeing a product on the field that we can actually enjoy.

At this point, I think our best move is to sack Koeman and Walsh, hire Unsworth as interim manager until the end of the season, and focus on doing an in-depth search for a qualified director of football. That is, someone who can help not only with recruitment but also with managerial appointments and the hiring of other backroom staff. This is the most important position at the club and we can't have another rush job like Walsh. It would be worth it for us to pay top dollar to get the very best DoF we can because the biggest edge for us to exploit is in the market for backroom staff, not in the market for players (where the richest clubs reign supreme).

I know Unsworth will be unpopular so let me explain why I think it's the right move for the rest of the season:

- We have enough to talent to stay clear of a relegation scrap.
- Unsworth's U23s are always well-organized, which is a 100% transferable skill to first-team management. He might get schooled by more experienced managers on occasion but we will not suddenly become a shambles (or more shambolic than we already are). He wouldn't be doing so well at the level he's at if his side wasn't disciplined tactically.
- Whatever tactical nous (not much on current form) or "experience" we lose by letting Koeman go will be offset by the improvement in man management. The U23s will pretty much run through a wall for this guy. Maybe his act won't be as effective on older pros but keep in mind that we have a lot of young, hungry players who are already important contributors (Pickford, Keane, Holgate, Kenny, Davies, Klaassen, Vlasic, Lookman, Sandro, Calvert-Lewin, etc.). There's plenty there for him to work with, and a lot of those players already love and respect him. Plus, I have to imagine that he'll be pretty popular with a lot of the old guard, like Coleman, Baines, and Jagielka.
- Investing more minutes in the younger players now will pay dividends down the road.

I doubt we do anything at all but, if we do decide to act, I think that's our best play. As much as I'd like someone like Tuchel, I'm afraid that we'll continue to be a mess if we rush into finding a manager before we take care of the larger backroom problems at the club. (And if the backroom problems are Moshiri and Kenwright? Then we're well and truly fucked and no director of football or manager is going to sort it out, which is the scariest scenario and one that I prefer not to think about.)
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October 02, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Is anyone actually pro koeman now? I don't mean give him a bit more time to lose a few more games before we sack him because we are Everton and don't sack managers in October. Actually see him as a long term answer. Is anyone confident in his abilities now? Would anyone extend his contract?
What am getting at is we all seem to be in agreement that he's not the answer. Just some debate as to how long we should plod of with the wrong man in charge.

October 02, 2017, 03:40:00 AM
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Bluedylan


I've said I'd be more than happy with Unsworth for now.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

October 02, 2017, 03:40:47 AM
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Silas

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I wouldn't.

October 02, 2017, 03:41:15 AM
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Redartin


He wouldn't get the job at Barca's B team, he's fucking useless
But he doesn't think that. This disappointing time is the players fault, the recruitment people's fault, the tea lady's fault, everyone else's fault,  not his.