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October 31, 2017, 01:55:07 AM
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angus1878




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October 31, 2017, 02:09:08 AM
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gizzblue


Advocating gun crime ...what a cunt.

October 31, 2017, 03:31:41 AM
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Jamie Redknapp would have said "some Everton players literally want shooting"


October 31, 2017, 04:24:54 AM
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sam of the south


He's right.

Our senior players are passive and powderpuff.

And no, starting a brawl and deserving to get sent-off is not showing passion, it's irresponsible.
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October 31, 2017, 04:59:07 AM
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Tony Clifton


So did your brother, Gary.  Actually...

October 31, 2017, 08:15:17 AM
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I think it's a bit harsh to pick on Jags, Williams and Baines. I can understand he wants to blame the senior players for not taking responsibility or ownership. But the problem with that, is that the only senior players from last season are the defenders. But our problem hasn't just been defending and actually we looked defensively more robust, but more open because we push higher and have tried to win.

In part, it's because everyone had confidence and role in team destroyed under Koeman. Jags was out the squad for start of the season, Williams has been badly playing with Keane. Jags and Williams were never really played well together because they are similar type of players. They are only playing now, because they become our best option almost by default.

What we need to do is start getting clean sheets, and we'll get goals as teams open up or on the break. Unsworth has probably wanted to be more ambitious from the off, because he only has a few games to get a win, he doesn't have time to play negative football and start grinding out results.
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October 31, 2017, 11:20:49 AM
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Hard not to agree with that

October 31, 2017, 03:20:15 PM
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Macca77


Poor choice of words there, he's right though

October 31, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
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The plan was for Jags to move on if a decent offer came in for him, hes clearly past it last season and he was also evidently howpful of going back to sheff united by some of the replies in interviews he had pre season but it never materialised.

Williams is also on the decline and well Baines has been poor for a good few seasons, a shadow of the player he was in his first season under Martinez.

I do think Martinez was right when he talked about moving Baines into a defensive midfield position. Hes a liability at full back and no more than average.

Koeman also stated pre season he wanted a left sided defender, and for good reason!
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October 31, 2017, 05:11:10 PM
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Lxxx


Mismanagement of them for years. Jags and Baines are the two senior pros in the squad who are about as soft of character as you are ever going to get. They visibly drained throughout the Martinez years, were slightly motivated last season for one last career push and this season have about as much spark as a flat battery.

If we didn't have about another dozen issues to sort they should have disappeared from first team football and the squad in the summer. They're the soft underbelly of the dressing room from a bygone era.

October 31, 2017, 05:24:10 PM
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They will be remembered with affection and will be seen around Everton events for years to come. Pity we have to rely on them now on the pitch. It is not hindsight to say somebody really has cocked up the forward planning at this club. Moshiri is new to it all and Bill has not been a well man. I wonder who is taking the blame within the club?

October 31, 2017, 05:27:30 PM
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They will be remembered with affection and will be seen around Everton events for years to come. Pity we have to rely on them now on the pitch. It is not hindsight to say somebody really has cocked up the forward planning at this club. Moshiri is new to it all and Bill has not been a well man. I wonder who is taking the blame within the club?

We have a Chief Executive who is supposed to be responsible for running a competent business.

October 31, 2017, 05:30:31 PM
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therealdunc


The off field business is going well (although new stadium seems to have stalled with no commonwealth games money) with sell outs most games, better commercial revenue, etc

The on field business has been a disaster and that is down to the management of the first team
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