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Title: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on April 18, 2011, 12:53:54 AM
Can we carry on our good form against these at OT,  im saying yes and we will get a point,osman to continue his good form and to score my prediction is 1-1.

Osman for us and hernandez for them.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2011, 12:56:29 AM
i have a feeling moyes will change stuff and be negative , so i'm going 2 0 united
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 18, 2011, 12:56:53 AM
I think we can win, not sure if we will but I'll pick us for it anyway.

1-2

Distin and Anichebe.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Gash on April 18, 2011, 12:58:12 AM
1-2 to us. I really think we may get something from this, hopefully Utd will beat Newcastle on Tuesday anf have one eye on the CL.

Did I mention I'm going?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 18, 2011, 01:01:40 AM
Same line up with Rodwell for Heitinga if he is injured.  Hopefully one of Arteta or Cahill will be on the bench to add experience.  I reckon a 1-1 draw.  Bily for us.

Will be gutted if Moyes changes things much.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 18, 2011, 01:24:08 AM
Same line up with Rodwell for Heitinga if he is injured.  Hopefully one of Arteta or Cahill will be on the bench to add experience.  I reckon a 1-1 draw.  Bily for us.

Will be gutted if Moyes changes things much.

I don't think he will. As much as Moyes has his favourites he rarely changes a winning side unless he has to.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Risky on April 18, 2011, 03:02:48 AM
Same line up with Rodwell for Heitinga if he is injured.  Hopefully one of Arteta or Cahill will be on the bench to add experience.  I reckon a 1-1 draw.  Bily for us.

Will be gutted if Moyes changes things much.

I think we're going to get a point too.  Despite Utd easing to the title they're not the formidable team they once were, and we've proven we can get results against them in recent years. 

Can't see many changes to the side except for Rodwell for Heitinga, and maybe Coleman in for Gueye to make us a little more defensive.  I think Gueye has done enough to keep his place though, especially as Coleman seems to be more effective when he comes on later in the game.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on April 18, 2011, 04:41:43 AM
3-1 united
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Verm on April 18, 2011, 05:40:11 AM
3-1 united

This unfortunately, can just see us rolling over for them like we usually do at their place.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on April 18, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
It might make things easier for us if Utd beat Newcastle and Spurs get a result against Arsenal this week , They can afford to rest a few players and if Mikel comes back and replaces Bily , leaving Ossie in his best position then we could get a result . I don't like just settling for a point and it's about time we had a win at OTso 2-1 to us would be nice .
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 18, 2011, 05:26:46 PM
Rodwell for Heitinga would be my only change i think we might nick it 1 nil Beckford or it could be nil nil either
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bally on April 18, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
it either going to be a draw or we will nick it or they will pummel us

all bases covered there I think
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 18, 2011, 11:40:06 PM
Would love a point, but don't hold out much hope. That said, better to travel in hope than expectation
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on April 19, 2011, 01:31:18 AM
What I'd give for a win at OT. When was our last one?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 19, 2011, 01:47:03 AM
Not certain of the year Jamo could be the start of 1992-93 season a 3-0 win on a wednesday night with Beardsley and Mo Johnson amongst the scorers.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on April 19, 2011, 01:52:50 AM
Thought it was about then, how embarrassing!

I remember going 2-0 up only to draw 2-2 and Unsworth scoring an own goal. I''d never, nor have since been as angry as that with one of our own players.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 19, 2011, 02:10:02 AM
Aye, that's the game big dunc scored 2 beauties in.We were still 2 up with only 15 mins to play and yet in the end we were hanging on for dear life for a point.Don't think we've come close to winning there since that day.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 19, 2011, 02:21:52 AM
I'd settle for 2-0 - Bilyaletdinov, Beckford
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Risky on April 19, 2011, 02:47:27 AM
Not certain of the year Jamo could be the start of 1992-93 season a 3-0 win on a wednesday night with Beardsley and Mo Johnson amongst the scorers.

That game was right at the start of the season and the return was really soon afterwards too for some weird reason, and I think we lost 2-0 at home in that one.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 19, 2011, 02:55:38 AM
That's right Risky,only about 2 or 3 weeks between the 2 games.Seem to remember Steve Bruce scoring one of utd's goals.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Zaschrona on April 19, 2011, 05:03:25 AM
Rodwell for Heitinga would be my only change. And, we will win 2-1. Nani only scorer for them, Bilyaletdinov and Vellios will score for us!  8)
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on April 19, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
Can see us coming away with a point!

Would love a 2-0 Beckford and Hibbert and then Arsenal to beat United and win the league..
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 19, 2011, 07:03:19 PM
The last time we won there was when Big Dunc scored and we won 1-0.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on April 19, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
The last time we won there was when Big Dunc scored and we won 1-0.

No it wasn't. That was at Goodison. Twice.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: kunal32 on April 19, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
The last time we won at OT was 1992. Think it was 0-3 Mojo, Beardsley and Warzycha I think. Bloody hell thats nearly 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Tellittoyourking on April 20, 2011, 12:37:48 AM
I fancy us. The bookies don't at about 7-1. Decent bet.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bally on April 20, 2011, 05:07:48 AM
Id settle for 0-1  of hibberts arse as he is running away from their goal
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 20, 2011, 05:51:48 AM
They drew today so probably means they won't take it too easy or rest anybody for Saturday.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 20, 2011, 02:51:39 PM
Yep, although it also shows they aren't exactly in form just now.

Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 20, 2011, 03:05:13 PM
they might rest a few for the Schalke game .......I hope  :eh: I'd settle for what the barcodes got. :whistle:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Verm on April 20, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Yep, although it also shows they aren't exactly in form just now.



Yet they always manage it for us..
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 20, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
They know how to get results it seems despite having on paper what can look like a rather mediocre (by their standards) side. That said, I hope we have a go as the pressure is clearly on them. Stranger things have happened this season...sorta.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 20, 2011, 10:46:45 PM
Yet they always manage it for us..

We just always play really badly against them. They are very good at home tho and this is a very very tough match for us.
Title: Everton v United
Post by: moonshine on April 20, 2011, 10:57:37 PM
Anyone going on here if so where doe Evertonians meet for a few before the game?

cheers in advance  :cheers:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 20, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
It's one game where there is absolutely no pressure on us at all. We won't make Europe and aren't scrapping for points. Maybe that's the key
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 20, 2011, 11:54:55 PM
No it wasn't. That was at Goodison. Twice.

Come to think of it, you may be right.  You win this time Jamo, but I'll be back, I'll always be back aaahahahaaaaaahahaha
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on April 21, 2011, 01:40:19 AM
"May be right"? Pffft.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: the doc on April 21, 2011, 06:29:57 AM
I can see this similar to the Arsenal away game, think we will score first, the commentators will then for the rest of the match say can Utd get back ect, we as fans will be here for 70 mins saying COYB, and then wam bam lose 2-1!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: NicD on April 21, 2011, 06:56:41 AM
Here is my take on the United game this weekend.....

http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/man-utd-v-everton-preview/ (http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/man-utd-v-everton-preview/)
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 21, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
Bit surprised by how many of us are expecting us to go there and win!must be 20 years since we won there!shows how confident we are I suppose.  Wouldnt be surprised to see magaye and bily make way for Coleman and Arteta.

                               Howard

Hibbert           Jagielka       Distin       Baines

Coleman         Neville      Heitinga    Arteta
                               Osman
                               Beckford

Thats if Heitinga is fit, if not then Rodwell in for Heitinga.

United will be desperate for the win, but I think they may just have one eye on that Schalke game, Il be delighted with a point so I'll be bold and predict us to get just that.  1-1, with Beckford cancelling out a Hernandez opener
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on April 21, 2011, 03:43:09 PM
Bit surprised by how many of us are expecting us to go there and win!must be 20 years since we won there!shows how confident we are I suppose.  Wouldnt be surprised to see magaye and bily make way for Coleman and Arteta.

                               Howard

Hibbert           Jagielka       Distin       Baines

Coleman         Neville      Heitinga    Arteta
                               Osman
                               Beckford

Thats if Heitinga is fit, if not then Rodwell in for Heitinga.

United will be desperate for the win, but I think they may just have one eye on that Schalke game, Il be delighted with a point so I'll be bold and predict us to get just that.  1-1, with Beckford cancelling out a Hernandez opener

I'd be gutted if we lined up like that to be honest mate.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 21, 2011, 04:41:54 PM
I'd be gutted if we lined up like that to be honest mate.
Yeah agreed, thats not what I would play, just what I think we will.  Would personally like to see Bily and Gueye both given an extended run in the side but think for this game Moyes will go with experience and concentrate on trying to stop them play
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 22, 2011, 01:44:30 AM
I could understand Coleman coming in for Gueye or Bily but wholesale canges to a winning side...nah.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Craig_1878 on April 22, 2011, 03:22:53 AM
I'd settle for a draw, unfortunately I think Moyes will go into this game with the same mindset and I think we'll get beat. Hope i'm wrong though obviously.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 22, 2011, 03:51:02 AM
Gotta go into it positively. Different games often call for different tactics, but I'd be a little bit miffed if Moyes went conservative again and we went over there just to roll over 3-0 again.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on April 22, 2011, 04:23:50 AM
They aint scored for two games.......says it all. coyb
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: the doc on April 22, 2011, 04:51:00 AM
They aint scored for two games.......says it all. coyb

Premier League Opta Facts - April 23 -25
Manchester United v Everton
Everton have only won four of the 37 Premier League meetings with Manchester United.
The Toffees have scored three goals in the 90th minute or later in their last two Premier League games with Man Utd.
Man Utd have won 14 and lost none of the last 17 Premier League games against Everton at Old Trafford.
The Red Devils have won their last 12 Premier League home games in a row.
Manchester United have kept three clean sheets in their last four league games.
Man Utd have won all five of their home North West derbies in the Premier League this season.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 22, 2011, 05:27:09 PM
Premier League Opta Facts - April 23 -25
Manchester United v Everton
Everton have only won four of the 37 Premier League meetings with Manchester United.
The Toffees have scored three goals in the 90th minute or later in their last two Premier League games with Man Utd.
Man Utd have won 14 and lost none of the last 17 Premier League games against Everton at Old Trafford.
The Red Devils have won their last 12 Premier League home games in a row.
Manchester United have kept three clean sheets in their last four league games.
Man Utd have won all five of their home North West derbies in the Premier League this season.
These make pretty grim reading, united haven't lost at home this season, yet almost every blue I have spoken to seems to think it's just a matter of us turning up to collect a routine 3 points!I'l be over the moon if we somehow manage to scrape a win!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bluestevie on April 22, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
if we can go at them from the off then i believe we can get a result there. the only changes i'd make are rodwell for heitinga and coleman for bilyaletdinov. resist all temptation to bring back arteta and cahill, ease them back in gradually till they are match fit
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 23, 2011, 07:04:09 AM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=117473058308676#w400-h224 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=117473058308676#w400-h224)   COYB
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 23, 2011, 05:53:43 PM
Official EXI: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Osman, Neville, Rodwell, Bilyaletdinov, Coleman, Beckford. Cahill on bench, no Arteta.


Who do you think the shite will be supporting today?  :snigger:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 23, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
Man Utd XI: Van der Sar, Ferdinand, Anderson, Rooney, Hernandez, Nani, Fabio, O'Shea, Evans, Valencia, Gibson
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 05:55:44 PM
Yeah for moyes totally right team

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: dekko on April 23, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Official EXI: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Osman, Neville, Rodwell, Bilyaletdinov, Coleman, Beckford. Cahill on bench, no Arteta.


Who do you think the shite will be supporting today?  :snigger:

So is Billy playing just behind Beckford?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on April 23, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
I honestly think we will get something there today....!!!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 23, 2011, 06:01:08 PM
So is Billy playing just behind Beckford?

4-2-3-1 I expect with Neville and Rodwell at DM like last week after he came on.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 06:05:53 PM
I honestly think we will get something there today....!!!

Me too if the lads can get hold of the ball and don't play it long we have a decent shot. No vidic is good news

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on April 23, 2011, 06:08:55 PM
Bit disappointed to see Gueye swiftly moved to the bench to accomidate Coleman, i'd of like Moyes to of been bold and left him in and see how he faired at Old Trafford and see if he would either thrive on the occassion or flop. I'd of probably brought Coleman in for Bily and see how Gueye got on.
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 06:10:54 PM
Bily has been god enough to keep a place imo but I can see the argument for keeping gueye in. I expect to se him, second half anyway when coleman and bily tire.  Probably cahill too.

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 23, 2011, 06:14:27 PM
Bit disappointed to see Gueye swiftly moved to the bench to accomidate Coleman, i'd of like Moyes to of been bold and left him in and see how he faired at Old Trafford and see if he would either thrive on the occassion or flop. I'd of probably brought Coleman in for Bily and see how Gueye got on.

I'd rather let the near 10m player have a run of games before the end of the season. We can then determine whether he is worth the money or not, if the the latter is unfortunately true then sell him in the summer. Gueye will have chances to shine before the end of the season and next but he didn't cost us as much money.
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 06:17:47 PM
Not arsed about cost I just think bilys ability to score means, he should keep his place.  Coleman is the question and how fit he is.

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Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: true1891blue on April 23, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
Not arsed about cost I just think bilys ability to score means, he should keep his place.  Coleman is the question and how fit he is.

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bally on April 23, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
we play this on the floor we could beat these with Beckford starting
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on April 23, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
All about Osman for me, 14-1 first goalscorer and 5-1 anytime. Hopefully I'll be quids in and we'll have 3 points after this.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on April 23, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
streams?
Title: intro
Post by: Bily No Pace on April 23, 2011, 06:57:51 PM
hey guys im not watching the game because I cant be arsed going to pub and hate going to old trafford so you all have me to keep you company today! yay you!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on April 23, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
^ crickets chirping in here, Bily, what gives?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
Not a great start so far, they seem to sit back and let us play until about 30 yards from goal. They`ve had a lot of the ball.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on April 23, 2011, 07:14:37 PM
Been a few passages of good passing by us, Osman looking good but Bily useless.  Resorting to thumping it quite a bit though, too.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
Fucking boring
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:19:38 PM
Hibbert`s been a liability so far.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bravison on April 23, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Only a question of when we'll concede if this doesn't change...
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bravison on April 23, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
And Bily has been awful.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on April 23, 2011, 07:23:01 PM
And Bily has been awful.

Already needs to be replaced with Gueye
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:24:25 PM
Oh, that was close. They`re knocking on the door now.
Title: we are not playing well
Post by: Bily No Pace on April 23, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
Oh, that was close. They`re knocking on the door now.

shocking.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 23, 2011, 07:26:18 PM
And Bily has been awful.
I got off the sofa to post just this. Maddeningly indifferent.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueslipper on April 23, 2011, 07:26:47 PM
Bily needs a bomb up his arse
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
They have been  awful across the board

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: slothzen on April 23, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
Ugh Hibbert, WTF.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: dunkster on April 23, 2011, 07:29:50 PM
listening on radio sounds awful
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 23, 2011, 07:30:24 PM
Just get Cahill on now - crying out for a target man who does more than stand still.
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Hibbert bily baines rodwell all awful.  Beckford a moaning tit

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bravison on April 23, 2011, 07:31:55 PM
How we held on till halftime I'll never know. Surely we'll see a substitution at half time?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: rochey on April 23, 2011, 07:32:22 PM
Billy & Rodwell - waste of fucking space
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 23, 2011, 07:33:45 PM
Defending quite well but offered absolutely fuck all going forward.  The amount of times the midfield have just give it away.

Bily looks lost.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 23, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
Well, we have been terrible going forward but at least it's 0-0. Seems like the plan was to keep it tight 1st half and try to nick it 2nd half by being slightly more adventurous.

Is it really hot in Manchester today. Everyone seems to be wilting away.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Rob Burns on April 23, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
I've got the worst stream ever that seems to freeze every time something looks like happening so it's hard to get a real read on the game. If it wasn't for Distin, Jagielka and Howard we could be a few down by now.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blargins on April 23, 2011, 07:35:04 PM
Clueless.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 23, 2011, 07:36:52 PM
Bily Rodwell and Coleman been a waste of air on the pitch. We are shitting our pants at Old Trafford yet again.

Should have been a penalty tho when Evans rugby tackled Beckford, nothing new from that cunt tho.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 07:37:23 PM
Well, I think we have key players doing fuck all, as opposed to us being clueless or all round shit. Bily and Rodwell need to be subbed, especially the former because he's been terrible.

Good that it's 0-0 going into HT and thank christ Jags, Distin and Howard are playing well.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: .Matty on April 23, 2011, 07:37:29 PM
This is so bad. Cahill on Rodwell off and move Ossie back next to Neville.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 07:37:59 PM
Given the service, I really think its very hard to blame Beckford. Just because he isn't Duncan Ferguson and winning nothing floated balls, doesn't mean he is crap. Besides there is nobody within 30 yards of him even if he were to win a flick on.

The main issues have been our disfunctionality in midfield. Very slow, and little ambition which seemingly was our game plan...so perhaps this was mostly about Moyes' tactics this half.

Still we're giving the ball away very cheaply.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: gwells on April 23, 2011, 07:38:07 PM
Awful display. Jags Distin and Howard and perhaps Neville good but the rest crap. Bily seems to be in dreamland,Coleman [is he playing?] Osman back to his useless self, nothing from Rodwell or Baines. I'm dreading the 2nd half. need to bring on Timmy and Gueye for Bily and Coleman play Ossie on the right and Tim in the hole. I would even give Vellios a go as beckford has done nothing.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: true1891blue on April 23, 2011, 07:38:53 PM
http://trgoals.co/ (http://trgoals.co/)

very good stream
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on April 23, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
I'd be tempted to take Bily and Coleman off for Gueye and Vic. I'd prefer it if Cahill didn't come on till later because we don't need a half fit player pout there being ineffective.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
Changes needed but they haven't scored yet, doom mongers.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:39:17 PM
Beckford and Bily have been particularly bad going forward, Hibbert has been poor at the back. I think Baines is frustrated with Bily, although he himself has been pretty poor.

My guess is that Cahill will be on for Bily and Osman will shift out to the left.

I don`t know what I`d do tactically because we look lost and not sure how we'll get a foothold in this game. They need a rocket up their collective arses that's for sure.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: rochey on April 23, 2011, 07:40:51 PM
Given the service, I really think its very hard to blame Beckford. Just because he isn't Duncan Ferguson and winning nothing floated balls, doesn't mean he is crap. Besides there is nobody within 30 yards of him even if he were to win a flick on.

The main issues have been our disfunctionality in midfield. Very slow, and little ambition which seemingly was our game plan...so perhaps this was mostly about Moyes' tactics this half.

Still we're giving the ball away very cheaply.

He may not be and your right he has had no service, but he could at least jump for the ball. I think jags is having a poor game scared to tackle Rooney
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: tonypefc on April 23, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
i never thought i'd say this but i think we need anichebe on!!! bring him for coleman and cahill for bily put ossie wide to link with baines try get him in the game
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: fast lane on April 23, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
A result is still possible.

Bily really is the weakest link, ball loss every time he has possession.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bravison on April 23, 2011, 07:42:46 PM
Gueye and Victor on for Coleman and Bily. We need Osman in the middle. Cahill to come in for Beckford in the last 15 minutes and score the winner.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 07:43:16 PM
Bily's been poor but Rodwell has been more frustrating as he is just watching everything.. 
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 07:43:29 PM
I think Coleman has been instructed to be an extra RB it would seem. Kinda how we played against Bale.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 07:44:06 PM
Piss poor to say the least.

Why the hell we insist on 11 men back for a corner when Utd only have 5 in the box is mind boggling, but at least it's nothing new :headbang:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 23, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
No pace or determination to get past the opposition combined with the fact that we keep trying to lob balls through rather than play simple passes it looks like how we played against reading .
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 07:45:16 PM
Best thing to come so far is the commercials I'm watching on my American stream. They're amazing.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 07:46:31 PM
Cahill coming on for Bily
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 23, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Cahill \o/
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 23, 2011, 07:47:06 PM
Anichebe /o\
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
Fookin hell, just when you think things can't get any worse :headbang:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 07:47:32 PM
Anichebe on for Beckford too
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
Fookin hell, just when you think things can't get any worse :headbang:

That's the right attitude.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 07:48:32 PM
I cant believe Beckford has come off for Anichebe
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 23, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Gameover? :snigger:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 23, 2011, 07:48:43 PM
I disagree about Beckford. hes been given nothing to work with at all. Rodwell seems to spend most of this game looking at which seat he will pick on the bench next season, Bily looks like a fan who has somehow made it onto the pitch, and Coleman has had no prescence. Think the rest have been alright. Howard and Distin particularly good.

We need more composure when we get into nice positions, stop falling over the ball / missing the ball completely / panicking and passing the ball to Manure players / falling over our own feet etc. :S
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on April 23, 2011, 07:48:48 PM
Coleman and Rodwell are playing like they are not 100% fit which when you're playing away to Utd is a hinderance , Bily is just awful and even Ossie looks like he's not fully fit , they are dominating our midfield but Jags , Howard and Disty are solid which has just about saved us . Valencia raped Bainsey just the once but hasn't caused him too many big problems besides that considering he's getting no cover whatsoever from Bily . Hibbo is having a bad one , seamus seemed to drop back towards the end of the half to cover for him
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 07:48:51 PM
Fookin hell, just when you think things can't get any worse :headbang:

The fuck are you on about?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 23, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
Appears we are back to the 4-4-1-1
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 07:49:39 PM
I cant believe Beckford has come off for Anichebe

The fuck are you on about?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 23, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
The fuck are you on about?

What do you think?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 07:51:16 PM
What do you think?

He's already done more than Beckford
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:52:05 PM
Jesus, we were terrible in the first, of course we've changed formation and personnel. Some people are never happy.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on April 23, 2011, 07:53:33 PM
Well that performance 1st half, defensively and off the ball was shocking, a disgrace!. Were not working hard enough, not closing down, letting players run off the back of us with ease, nobody is picking up Rooney when he drops in deep, its shit!.

Rodwell is fucking useles, he hasnt got a clue what he's doing, its like he doesnt know wHat to do, wether to close down or follow a player, he looks undecided and on a few occassions as left players to run in behind him, on that 1st half showing, Man Utd wouldnt give us 25 pence, let alone 25 mill for him!.

Bily as been wank, his 1st touch again is bad and he thinks he's got all the time in the world, Osman as done nothing, Beckford hasnt had any service but he wont jump or challenge aerially, he's not strong enough to back in and hold the ball up either.

Hibbo and Baines arent getting tight enough to Nani and Valencia and when we do get the ball, were slow in possesion and arent committing men forward to attack and are play is going sideways and backwards and its just agony to watch!. There's no other team in any of the leagues that would play like we just have in that 1st half, no one, not even a pub team!.

And it's not the first time ive seen us be like that off the ball and defensively either. We need to put more effort in and close down higher up the pitch, be more aware of off the ball runners like Rooney who keeps dropping into the hole between defence and midfield and trying to make things happen cos sooner or later we will get punished and i think if we carry on how we are and go a goal down, we'll get hammered.

I mean IMO, we'd of been better off with young Gueye in starting line up ahead of Bily like i said before the game, least he works and uses the ball more intelligently, but come 2nd half we wont see him i bet, we'll end up with Cahill and big Vic coming on and looking to go long, i'd rather us bring Gueye and Vellios on with Cahill than that big lazy cunt!.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 23, 2011, 07:53:58 PM
He's already done more than Beckford

Just a strange change though, could work, hope it does.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bravison on April 23, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
Happy enough with the changes made. Already look a little bit more composed in the first 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 23, 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Our players have been dispossessed so easily
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 23, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
PENALTY!!!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 07:59:25 PM
Look a penalty that, hard to tell until the replay though.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:00:27 PM
Would have been had his last touch been better
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
That's tough, but if the same happens to United in this game I'd bet they get the pen.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:02:24 PM
The baldy twat Walton has been very one sided in most decisions already
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
The baldy twat Walton has been very one sided in most decisions already

Yea, it hasn't been too obvious but he certainly hasn't given us much.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:04:33 PM
Pity we've nobody to bring on for Rodwell, been fucking awful.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 08:04:54 PM
The baldy twat Walton has been very one sided in most decisions already
Awful ref
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 23, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Cahill and Vic have been Goodson far. Vic needs to do that more. Run at ppl
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
We look so sluggish
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 23, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
ossie gone out of it since they they put him out wide
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Nice it by Rodwell.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
Bastard
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:16:17 PM
Stop the fucking cross coming in Hibbert FFS
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 23, 2011, 08:16:44 PM
I really like the patience our midfielders are showing when we have possession.  In addition, wouldn't mind seeing Gueye on for Coleman.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:17:35 PM
Come on Mageye lad!!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:26:38 PM
Fuck off Distin
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
Ugh
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Thom on April 23, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
Distin you absolute fool. :shakeyheadman:
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 23, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
what the fuck was hibbert and howard doing for the goal i suppose it was coming we are lucky
its not 3 or 4 nil only rodwell shot van der sar could go home
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
Nothing we dont deserve for sitting back and trying to just defend.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:30:48 PM
what the fuck was hibbert and howard doing for the goal i suppose it was coming we are lucky

??  Was totally Distin's fault dicking about instead of getting rid.  Another fucking brain fart against Man U.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:31:35 PM
Nothing we dont deserve for sitting back and trying to just defend.

Agreed, that's what u get going out to play for a 0-0 for 90 minutes
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:31:38 PM
We don't even look like we want it.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Thom on April 23, 2011, 08:34:50 PM
We don't even look like we want it.

We never do at Old Trafford. Always get set up to hold out for a 0-0 until, inevitably, United score and only then do we look like going to attack. Maybe we'd stand a bit more of a chance if we actually went for it for once. Getting fed up at watching us roll over at their place.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
I suppose a Man U team of Evans, O'Shea, Gibson & Fabio is one to be feared so I can understand Moyes being cautious.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
Why the fuck would we let Neville take the free kick? Fucking outrageous.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 08:38:23 PM
We never do at Old Trafford. Always get set up to hold out for a 0-0 until, inevitably, United score and only then do we look like going to attack. Maybe we'd stand a bit more of a chance if we actually went for it for once. Getting fed up at watching us roll over at their place.

It's so frustrating. Every single time.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:38:59 PM
20 fucking years.

Fuck off Everton
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 08:40:11 PM
Fuck that, fuck this. Any glimmer of hope of grabbing a European spot went with that game. We could have at least tried.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
I'm not even really upset with Distin. He played well in the main but we were just too cautious so we were always walking a tightrope trying to play that way.

We hadn't anything to play for today, so why not go for it Moyes?

Boo.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 23, 2011, 08:42:01 PM
yes and it will be 20 more as they will still pass us on there rejects like howard,neville,saha,
Gibson or wes brown will be at Everton next
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 08:43:05 PM
Went out with a whimper. Embarrassing record we have there. Nobody stood out today except Jags and Distin (for most of the game). Should've have had at least one penalty, but didn't deserve a thing. Shameful performance once again at OT.
Title: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 08:43:50 PM
A miracle it was only one nil.  Ironic distin who along with jags and  howard had a decent game fucked up.  Rodwell was absolutely atrocious.

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 08:44:16 PM
yes and it will be 20 more as they will still pass us on there rejects like howard,neville,saha,
Gibson or wes brown will be at Everton next
That's a bit harsh
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
We hadn't anything to play for today, so why not go for it Moyes?

Boo.

Because he's totally negative.  The whole team is set up to be defensive minded.  Let them worry about us, they're the ones that had the pressure on them.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on April 23, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
i dont think its moyes fault every time we had a bit of possie and got into the game someone slipped over


you cant attack if you cant get the ball forward and we couldnt
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: guymurphy1989 on April 23, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
If Man U lined up with just a goalkeeper and we had are full 11, Moyes would still stand off them. Its just how we seem to play it at Old Trafford. Tbh i think its quite disrespectful to the fans when we play like that
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
I suppose a Man U team of Evans, O'Shea, Gibson & Fabio is one to be feared so I can understand Moyes being cautious.
Compared to an Everton team with Beckford, Hibbert, Osman? No wonder Moyes was cautious
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 08:45:42 PM
That's a bit harsh

Not only harsh, but absolute nonsense. Howard in particular has been excellent for us.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: fast lane on April 23, 2011, 08:46:09 PM
??  Was totally Distin's fault dicking about instead of getting rid.  Another fucking brain fart against Man U.

It was.
He got over optimistic and we paid a heavy price for it.
Not only did he give the ball away cheaply, he stood off too much to let the cross get made.

For once we looked like getting a result there...:(
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Craig_1878 on April 23, 2011, 08:46:17 PM
I'd settle for a draw, unfortunately I think Moyes will go into this game with the same mindset and I think we'll get beat. Hope i'm wrong though obviously.

How annoyingly predictable.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Dublin Toffee on April 23, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
We didn't deserve much from the game but arguably could have had 2 penos, one in each half. Peter Walton was playing for United today for sure. Books Howard for timewasting but not Van der Sar. United got the ball back on a few occasions where he should've given Everton frees but that's all part and parcel of playing at Old Trafford.

Not to take away from a deserved 3 points for United, I just hope they have to work harder than that to claim the league in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 08:48:25 PM
A miracle it was only one nil.  Ironic distin who along with jags and  howard had a decent game fucked up.  Rodwell was absolutely atrocious.

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I have to agree. How anyone can rate him 25 mil based on this and other similar performances this season is beyond me. He looked like a defender playing in midfield at best, and a bystander at worst.

That said he wasn't the only one.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 08:49:10 PM
It was.
He got over optimistic and we paid a heavy price for it.
Not only did he give the ball away cheaply, he stood off too much to let the cross get made.

For once we looked like getting a result there...:(
Maybe, but where the hell was our right back?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 23, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
We didn't deserve much from the game but arguably could have had 2 penos, one in each half. Peter Walton was playing for United today for sure. Books Howard for timewasting but not Van der Sar. United got the ball back on a few occasions where he should've given Everton frees but that's all part and parcel of playing at Old Trafford.

Not to take away from a deserved 3 points for United, I just hope they have to work harder than that to claim the league in the next few weeks.

They weren't penalties. The referee didn't beat us today, we managed that pretty much by ourselves.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
I have to agree. How anyone can rate him 25 mil based on this and other similar performances this season is beyond me. He looked like a defender playing in midfield at best, and a bystander at worst.

That said he wasn't the only one.

What annoyed me with him today, was, the total  lack of effort.  Bily was awful today but rodwell was at least as bad, barely put a tackle in and never looked arsed.  He was plenty as a central midfielder

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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: fast lane on April 23, 2011, 08:54:31 PM
Compared to an Everton team with Beckford, Hibbert, Osman? No wonder Moyes was cautious

Lol, I bet you were waiting weeks to post that.
Must have been very frustrating.
We're not allowed to make fun of BK, but we are of our home grown players and freebies. (as if we've got money to buy any replacements for them, and we all know why that is..)
How very hypocritical.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
Lol, I bet you were waiting weeks to post that.
Must have been very frustrating.
We're not allowed to make fun of BK, but we are of our home grown players and freebies. (as if we've got money to buy any replacements for them, and we all know why that is..)
How very hypocritical.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 08:59:10 PM
Did anyone expect anything different today?  I certainly didn't.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
Lol, I bet you were waiting weeks to post that.
Must have been very frustrating.
We're not allowed to make fun of BK, but we are of our home grown players and freebies. (as if we've got money to buy any replacements for them, and we all know why that is..)
How very hypocritical.
You are deluded if you think those three compare to their opposite numbers today. As for defending BK you could not be more wrong. I could care less about the man. I only highlight the ignorant, ill-informed ranting that passes for comment on the subject
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
Compared to an Everton team with Beckford, Hibbert, Osman? No wonder Moyes was cautious

Im sorry but any other team and manager in the PL would have looked at that starting lineup, realised it was an average team, got themselves psyched up and gone at them.  But oh not Moyes and Everton, Moyes does'nt want to upset his bumchum Sir Alex and the players look like they are in awe.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Derek on April 23, 2011, 09:03:18 PM
Im sorry but any other team and manager in the PL would have looked at that starting lineup, realised it was an average team, got themselves psyched up and gone at them.  But oh not Moyes and Everton, Moyes does'nt want to upset his bumchum Sir Alex and the players look like they are in awe.

That doesn't fly because we always give them a game at Goodison, it's our attitude at OT that's the problem.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 09:04:04 PM
Im sorry but any other team and manager in the PL would have looked at that starting lineup, realised it was an average team, got themselves psyched up and gone at them.  But oh not Moyes and Everton, Moyes does'nt want to upset his bumchum Sir Alex and the players look like they are in awe.

That's a ridiculous accusation. The idea that Moyes doesn't want to upset Ferguson by beating them is pretty fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 23, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
we can talk all day about this that the other the fact is we are not good enough to beat utd
we are where we are 7 or 8 where we might finish, but as getting top 4 we are as far out as a light house
fuck sake Anichebe wouldn't get a game with wolves or wigan if he was with them and we think we could
beat utd with him up front, and this thing about lads saying Rodwell will be our Gerrard forget about it.

cahill wasn't fit but i think his best days are behind him, what i think we should do is sell Anichebe,yak,yobo
vaughan,bily, go get some young players in and also go get Micheal Owen i think he could do a job for us next
season as we don't have money to buy a big name striker.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 09:05:29 PM
it's our attitude at OT that's the problem.

Yup, and who's fault is it that the players always go out shitting themselves and negative at OT?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 09:07:35 PM
we can talk all day about this that the other the fact is we are not good enough to beat utd
we are where we are 7 or 8 where we might finish, but as getting top 4 we are as far out as a light house
fuck sake Anichebe wouldn't get a game with wolves or wigan if he was with them and we think we could
beat utd with him up front, and this thing about lads saying Rodwell will be our Gerrard forget about it.

cahill wasn't fit but i think his best days are behind him, what i think we should do is sell Anichebe,yak,yobo
vaughan,bily, go get some young players in and also go get Micheal Owen i think he could do a job for us next
season as we don't have money to buy a big name striker.

Seriously? How can you knock Anichebe today? At least he did something. We looked a lot better with him and Cahill on.

Cahill is past it and you want us to bring in Michael Owen? Get a fucking grip lad, I know it was a bad game but you're obviously not thinking clearly, Owen didn't even touch the ball against us.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Amata on April 23, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
That doesn't fly because we always give them a game at Goodison, it's our attitude at OT that's the problem.

Hence my comment that the players are in awe, they look like a bunch of autograph seekers.

When you go into a game thinking you've got no hope then you may as well not turn up.  The mindset of out players and Moyes needs to change.

I could understand that attitude a couple of years ago when Man U had Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Keane, Van Nistelrooy etc but that team today was poor
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 23, 2011, 09:13:04 PM
No desire,no ambition,no effort and no belief a truely shithouse performance againsed a utd side there for the taking.And the goal totaly Distins fault as were the 3 in the home game.Felt a bit sorry for him as that asside he played ok.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on April 23, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Seriously? How can you knock Anichebe today? At least he did something. We looked a lot better with him and Cahill on.

Cahill is past it and you want us to bring in Michael Owen? Get a fucking grip lad, I know it was a bad game but you're obviously not thinking clearly, Owen didn't even touch the ball against us.

you get a fucking grip Anichebe has been a fucking disgrace this season even today he was rolling around the field
as if he was shot bye a sniper and yes give me own anyday of the week than Anichebe didn't owen hit the post
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Chazman on April 23, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
Maybe, but where the hell was our right back?


Marking two players at the back post
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 23, 2011, 09:28:46 PM
Well it's been like that since the Premier league formed, so you tell us.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want rid of Moyes, but I DO want him to grow a pair against the so called big teams.

Our record at Man U is a disgrace.  Moyes is negative everytime he goes there, Walter Smith was too (as well as being negative against everyone else including at home).  The last time we had a go at them there was in 95 under Joe Royle when we were 2 up to 2 big Dunc goals, and an Unsy OG gave them a point near the end.

As Amata said above, they are no longer the Utd of old to be feared.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: BlueWool on April 23, 2011, 09:33:31 PM
2 points dropped at home all season and they were 'there for the taking'. Astonishing.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2011, 09:35:44 PM
you get a fucking grip Anichebe has been a fucking disgrace this season even today he was rolling around the field
as if he was shot bye a sniper and yes give me own anyday of the week than Anichebe didn't owen hit the post

You're a joke. Your own bias is blinding you, what a fucking surprise. Of all the players to knock today you pick him, every fucking game it happens. Get a fucking grip you absolute moron. He wasn't great, but he was far from our worst player, and he was more positive than most people today. When did he moan? When he didn't get the pen? Any player would have complained about that.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on April 23, 2011, 09:35:52 PM
Utd have won every game at OT this season besides one draw in the Prem , they are a far better team there than on their travels , we had to play some players who were clearly not 100% fit and were missing Arteta , Saha and Fellaini which with such a small squad as ours is a massive loss . We kept them at bay for 84 minutes and one stupid error from Disty led to their goal .. I'm not happy with the result but I'm not devastated , we've been much worse .
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 23, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
Crikey, I am disappointed, but I didn't think we were that bad. They didn't have many clear chances and Van Der Saar made a superb save from Rodwell, to keep it level. The 2 penalty shouts weren't particularly strong ones, but I believe that had they been United shouts, Walton would have given one of them.

We didn't set up to attack them and struggled to break that well, but it's the same style that got us wins at Eastlands and some good away draws. I also thought Distin was a bit unlucky for the goal, he managed to get to the ball 3 times, but just didn't get enough contact or the correct direction with the clearance.

It's disappointing because we struggled especially first half, to link up play when we did try getting forward. There was also a moment where Gueye had sneaked into a very good position where Fabio should have been. But Osman's ball went behind him and out wide, rather than a through ball for Gueye to run on to.

But we defended comfortably and solidly for most the game, starting getting chances and when we started pushing forward, they caught us at the back.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: NYToffee on April 23, 2011, 09:51:08 PM
you get a fucking grip Anichebe has been a fucking disgrace this season even today he was rolling around the field
as if he was shot bye a sniper and yes give me own anyday of the week than Anichebe didn't owen hit the post

My God...did you even watch the match? First, Hibbert and Howard were at fault for the goal (ha)...now Anichebe's at fault for the loss.

And Michael Owen is the prescription?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 23, 2011, 09:55:57 PM
Im sorry but any other team and manager in the PL would have looked at that starting lineup, realised it was an average team, got themselves psyched up and gone at them.  But oh not Moyes and Everton, Moyes does'nt want to upset his bumchum Sir Alex and the players look like they are in awe.

Well every other team who has gone there this season, West Brom aside, came back with nothing.  United away is the toughest game in the league and we were 5 mins away from getting a very good point.  Not many teams go to Old Trafford and dominate, they found us hard to break down, the most disappointing thing was for me was how many below par performances there were.  None of our midfielders got any sort of grip on the game.  Beckford and Bilyaletdinov were rightly brought off at half time, and to be fair to Vic he caused them more problems than anyone today.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 23, 2011, 09:57:44 PM
 NYToffee, how was Howard at fault? By time he got across goal the ball was already in. Also I find it difficult to blame Hibbo too b/c had that ball not been deflected Hernandez's run would not have been properly timed.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Verm on April 23, 2011, 10:01:20 PM
Typical Everton at Old Trafford performance, thank god for Howard keeping the score down.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: NYToffee on April 23, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
NYToffee, how was Howard at fault? By time he got across goal the ball was already in. Also I find it difficult to blame Hibbo too b/c had that ball not been deflected Hernandez's run would not have been properly timed.

He wasn't. Nor was Hibbert. But blue for you, showing his usual allergy to intelligent analysis, decided those two should be singled out (a couple pages back).

That post was meant to be read in a mocking tone.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 10:02:45 PM
Anichebe was nowhere near our worst player today, he put a decent shift in when he came on, unlike Beckford I might add.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Risky on April 23, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Anichebe was nowhere near our worst player today, he put a decent shift in when he came on, unlike Beckford I might add.

Been out and not read the other pages but if Anichebe is getting shit today then it shows a special kind of helmetry on the part of those doing so.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 23, 2011, 10:10:14 PM
That's what has done my head in today stealth, outside of the back 4 the rest of the players havn't shown a fucking leg going forward,they ambled through the 90 mins giving the ball away time after time.And what's astonishing about saying utd were there for the taking? It doesn't matter if they had won every home game this season 6-0,today they were well below thier best and we showed not the slightest inclanation to do jack shit about it.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Batley on April 23, 2011, 10:12:47 PM
I'm not Anichebe's biggest fan, but he did alright today. Held the ball up, pressed from the front and made a few good runs. I thought Beckford was woeful and all he did was moan at his teammates.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 23, 2011, 10:19:07 PM
moyes' fault, the form we have been in , i can't believe he said up the team in such a negative way.
although if you are going to blame players, you have to look at rodwell.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 10:21:18 PM
Thing is it wasn't a negative team selection they just didn't play football.  It baffled me throughout, he realised Bily and Beckford were playing shit and it still did little to the game.
Title: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: sixymack on April 23, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
I watched the game and stayed of here intentionally.   We were really unlucky and we deserved a point  the subs to me were spot on, plus I cant believe the stick Distin received in the match thread as him and jags were magnificant as was Howard.
Sometimes you have to face the reality that we battled against the richest club in world football and the most successful club to be in British history and we put up a great defensive performance and everyone on the pitch minus bilya played their hearts off and can hold their heads up high.

Most of you so called supporters could win 50 million pounds on the lottery and would still be crying about the tax been taken from it.
Realistically we are a club who are doin great for the resources we have , so WAKE up and stop the crying it is cringe worthy and the same record doesn't stop playing  week after week.Give it a rest, cheers
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Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 10:28:14 PM
Why do you think you deserve your own thread to comment on the match?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 23, 2011, 10:31:21 PM
and liverpool are in europe.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on April 23, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
Stop crying sixymack, just stop it.

We were hammered for 90 minutes and looked all over the place, I think whoever had a moan on the match thread has every reason to!
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: MikelMadar on April 23, 2011, 10:42:46 PM
I watched the game and stayed of here intentionally.   We were really unlucky and we deserved a point the subs to me were spot on, plus I cant believe the stick Distin received in the match thread as him and jags were magnificant as was Howard.
Sometimes you have to face the reality that we battled against the richest club in world football and the most successful club to be in British history and we put up a great defensive performance and everyone on the pitch minus bilya played their hearts off and can hold their heads up high.

Most of you so called supporters could win 50 million pounds on the lottery and would still be crying about the tax been taken from it.
Realistically we are a club who are doin great for the resources we have , so WAKE up and stop the crying it is cringe worthy and the same record doesn't stop playing  week after week.Give it a rest, cheers
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no we did'nt, we hung on til they scored like every season
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Alex6691 on April 23, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
I watched the game and stayed of here intentionally.   We were really unlucky and we deserved a point  the subs to me were spot on, plus I cant believe the stick Distin received in the match thread as him and jags were magnificant as was Howard.
Sometimes you have to face the reality that we battled against the richest club in world football and the most successful club to be in British history and we put up a great defensive performance and everyone on the pitch minus bilya played their hearts off and can hold their heads up high.

Most of you so called supporters could win 50 million pounds on the lottery and would still be crying about the tax been taken from it.
Realistically we are a club who are doin great for the resources we have , so WAKE up and stop the crying it is cringe worthy and the same record doesn't stop playing  week after week.Give it a rest, cheers






Richest club in world football? o_o
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Verm on April 23, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
We deserved a point?

REALLY?

If anything we were lucky to not be on the wrong end of a thrashing.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 23, 2011, 10:48:24 PM
You don't get taxed on lottery wins
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on April 23, 2011, 10:50:14 PM
As much as I think Anichebe is league 1 tops its out of order pinning the outcome of
todays dour shithouse performance on him.
I think people are miffed due to the fact that the person coming off the bench is the potential game changer..
unfortunately hes not going to change our fortunes.. EVER!

Redknapp said a few weeks back that Utd are being gifted the league and he's right. Theyre not breathtaking.

On the whole- the glimmer of that european spot was enticing for a second and it got us all buzzing, but with Moyes'
defensive mind, plus his record against the top teams, today always had one outcome.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Ridge on April 23, 2011, 10:51:59 PM
I wasn't crying.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2011, 10:53:02 PM
We deserved a point?

REALLY?

If anything we were lucky to not be on the wrong end of a thrashing.

Totally agree, normally United would have been 4-0 with the possession and shots they had.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: ally2 on April 23, 2011, 11:14:13 PM
Couldn't string three passes together, painfully slow on the ball, painfully slow trying to move forward, hit'n'hope.  Sheer desperation football.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: bluestevie on April 23, 2011, 11:21:31 PM
and liverpool are in europe.

not yet they arent unless city win the cup and finish 5th

on the game itself, absolute shite from an attacking sense but ok defensively. made for a frustrating day for me as i had a potential 200 ripped from me on my fixed odds.

was waiting on chesterfield to score at oxford , then within minutes spurs, charlton, hearts and bournemouth all blew winning leads to draw their games leaving watford and macclesfield as the only winners
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 23, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
not yet they arent unless city win the cup and finish 5th
can see them catching spurs tbh especially in spurs current form and the fact they still have to play spurs
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Stumpy on April 23, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
Desrveded nothing, end of storry.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 23, 2011, 11:37:51 PM
Know how yo feel blue stevie at one stage wlling Villa to take the lead for 244 next thing wolves, bournmouth, swindon and charlton all blew leads and ended up with only sheff utd and shrewsbury right.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: bluestevie on April 23, 2011, 11:41:27 PM
dont see how we deserved anything tbh, as i said in the match thread we were shite in attack but ok in defence. it was inevitable that united were gonna score in the end
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 23, 2011, 11:50:33 PM
moyes' fault, the form we have been in , i can't believe he said up the team in such a negative way.
although if you are going to blame players, you have to look at rodwell.
I don't know what you expect moyes to do. That's the hand he's been dealt. A draw is a good result at Old Trafford and it looked that way for 84 minutes
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Stumpy on April 24, 2011, 12:01:21 AM
Why is Moyes copping flack for this shithouse display? Was it him that strolled around in the sun for 90 mins looking uninterested?,was it him that passed the ball to Valencia for thier goal? was it him that kept giving the ball back to utd everytime we went over the halfway line? No.He picked virtualy the only that was available to him save for one or two players so how the hell is it his fault.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: the roy vernon plan on April 24, 2011, 12:49:42 AM
I thought EFC were well on course for a point which would have relected the grand effort
by our central defenders and a strong game plan by DM baering in mind that our three best players were
out.

Lets face facts. Bullshit Bill has provided next to nothing in resources for DM and we nearly got
something at Old Trafford with 4/5 players who would not get into Utd's' squad.

We still have Hibbert at full back, a mediocre stop-gap. We have Neville at midfield, who tries and tidies up but
rarely creates anything. Billy who is sadly confirming his status as a damp squib. A centre forward who won't jump
and Osman, who although having a good run, is not good enough.



 
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: DIXIEDEAN on April 24, 2011, 01:35:32 AM
fucking frustrating for me, we do the same everytime we play them there, why cant we play them like we do at goodison? with less fear for me moyes is a little to blame as we dont really have ewt to play for and 1-0 might aswell have been 4, a draw was pretty much useless to us as we are not gonna get above liverpool simply, id have just thrown everything at them from the off and gave them f all respect
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: RICH on April 24, 2011, 01:42:14 AM
12 v 11 we was never going to win
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: JoeHart on April 24, 2011, 01:45:18 AM
while moyes was negative again, it is ultimatly kenwrong who is the ultimate problem and his refusal to sell his train set.

was interesting to watch moyes walking behind ferguson after the game towards the dug outs, interesting how moyes stepped back for a split second to take it all in.
He would love the united job, but they would never have such a negative, defensive and predictable manager.

Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: JoeHart on April 24, 2011, 01:56:32 AM
12 v 11 we was never going to win
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14 v 11 if you include the linesmen who gave us nothing
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Silas on April 24, 2011, 02:05:43 AM
Actually if you take Bily and Rodwell out (and you might as well) it was more like 12 vs 9
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: Evertonexile on April 24, 2011, 02:52:00 AM


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Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Azz on April 24, 2011, 02:59:36 AM
Glad I missed some players performances today... sounds like a few people had a right mare of a game.
Title: Re: To all the Cryin C##TS on the match thread
Post by: DIXIEDEAN on April 24, 2011, 03:36:09 AM
it was as  tho rodwell was trying to make himself look good for the utd fans but everything he did to make himself look good and fancy went horribly wrong, done us and himself no favours for getting a big money move in the summer, and i dont know if thats a good thing or not!
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Azz on April 24, 2011, 04:39:00 AM
MOTD highlights or should I say Man U highlights, looks like we got a battering today!  Didn't say Bily's name once on it either.  Look absolute dog shit.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 24, 2011, 05:16:53 AM
MOTD highlights or should I say Man U highlights, looks like we got a battering today!

We did ;)
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Verm on April 24, 2011, 06:28:38 AM
I thought EFC were well on course for a point which would have relected the grand effort
by our central defenders and a strong game plan by DM baering in mind that our three best players were
out.

Lets face facts. Bullshit Bill has provided next to nothing in resources for DM and we nearly got
something at Old Trafford with 4/5 players who would not get into Utd's' squad.

We still have Hibbert at full back, a mediocre stop-gap. We have Neville at midfield, who tries and tidies up but
rarely creates anything. Billy who is sadly confirming his status as a damp squib. A centre forward who won't jump
and Osman, who although having a good run, is not good enough.



 

Our 3 best players were out?

Fellaini was out, fair enough
Baines was on the pitch.

Who's the third?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on April 24, 2011, 07:33:05 AM
That was close wernt it! 7 minutes away from getting a point only one other team has managed to do at OT this term

Once again moyes and the players prove every fucker wrong claiming we cant compete with the top 4
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: sharpattack on April 24, 2011, 07:34:44 AM
while moyes was negative again, it is ultimatly kenwrong who is the ultimate problem and his refusal to sell his train set.

was interesting to watch moyes walking behind ferguson after the game towards the dug outs, interesting how moyes stepped back for a split second to take it all in.
He would love the united job, but they would never have such a negative, defensive and predictable manager.
I sometimes think that this site has been infiltrated. Posts like this nearly prove it.
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: Verm on April 24, 2011, 08:11:54 AM
That was close wernt it! 7 minutes away from getting a point only one other team has managed to do at OT this term

Once again moyes and the players prove every fucker wrong claiming we cant compete with the top 4

We were fucking dominated for 90 minutes, a little more luck on their part and they would have won 4 or 5 - 0

What fucking game where you watching?
Title: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Post by: the roy vernon plan on April 24, 2011, 10:41:57 AM
arteta and saha