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Title: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 29, 2011, 09:55:27 PM
Well after today's result I can see us getting something out of the match at the Emirates.

I'd play the same team and then maybe throw Beckford on for Rodwell late on if we need a goal.

Arsenal 1:2 Everton
                 Saha
                 Bily

I'm also going to this one so would be extra delighted if we got the score I predicted.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: ilikebrunettes on January 29, 2011, 09:59:08 PM
Arsenal are a class above this current Chelsea team. a draw would be fantastic
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on January 29, 2011, 10:01:39 PM
I'd take a draw in this one. Trying not to get to carried away after a decent show today.

We still need to tighten things up at the back though. If Arenal catch us like Chelsea did today we'll be in trouble.

1-1. And hopefully kick start a decent run of results, we've had a few false dawns this season.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 29, 2011, 10:08:29 PM
I'd take a draw from this one, on their day arsenal can tear teams apart especially at home, a draw Tuesday and a win Saturday would be most welcome. Probably Unchanged from today unless Cahill is back in which case I imagine it would be him in for Rodwell, though I would like to see Jack given a run in the side
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on January 29, 2011, 10:15:19 PM
I would take a draw but think we could nick it.  Same team for me too but Beckford on a bit earlier if we are struggling.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cad on January 29, 2011, 10:41:08 PM
I'd take a draw in this one. Trying not to get to carried away after a decent show today.We still need to tighten things up at the back though. If Arenal catch us like Chelsea did today we'll be in trouble.

1-1. And hopefully kick start a decent run of results, we've had a few false dawns this season.

This.

Too much Jekyll and Hyde about us this season.

I'd be delighted with a draw, but I think we'll lose this one. Big ask.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Verm on January 30, 2011, 06:07:25 AM
They are playing too well and we aren't playing nearly well enough.

I'd be delighted with a point but I can't see us getting anything from this.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Thom on January 30, 2011, 06:02:32 PM
It'll be a much tougher match than the 2-2 draw last season, that's for sure. That said, teams like West Brom and Newcastle have gone there and won so who's to say we couldn't?

It's got to be the same team that played yesterday too, provided no one has picked up a knock.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 30, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
Nasri pulled up in their match v Huddersfield he should be out with a hamstring injury good news
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: marky v on January 30, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
and if suspensions are immediate that squillaci has just got a red card
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on January 30, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
We can certainly bother this defence, it's terrible.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 30, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
Very tough game for us. Though the Squalachi and Nasri news is welcome. Sami has been quite the little bastard for opponents this season.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 30, 2011, 07:27:20 PM
Huddersfield are giving them a hell of a game at the moment which is great news for us because at least some of these players will play Tuesday and they will be knackered. Fabregas is coming on by the looks as well so hopefully Kilbane kicks the shit out of him.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 30, 2011, 08:01:28 PM
who'll play at cb for arsenal now? koscielny and DJOUROU? nasri out is a huge benefit , shame i'll miss his points from my fantasy footy team though haha
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on January 30, 2011, 08:22:49 PM
The Arse have won with a soft 'home ' penalty. It's getting like Anfield and Old Tafford  ,if the home side are losing they have to be given a pen. :bonk: I'd be happy with a point on Tues. :woohoo:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 30, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
The Arse have won with a soft 'home ' penalty. It's getting like Anfield and Old Tafford  ,if the home side are losing they have to be given a pen. :bonk: I'd be happy with a point on Tues. :woohoo:
yeah refs do everything for the big sides is the kind of thing i thought when i heard koscielny got sent off :wanker:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on January 30, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
Its all down to fellaini.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2011, 01:54:46 AM
They are playing too well and we aren't playing nearly well enough.

I'd be delighted with a point but I can't see us getting anything from this.

It wouldent be a matchday thread without Verm saying "I can't see us getting anything from this".
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Dublin Toffee on January 31, 2011, 03:07:11 AM
Another draw for me. 1-1
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on January 31, 2011, 04:02:27 AM
Arsenal are a class above this current Chelsea team. a draw would be fantastic

What? You doubt that Arsenal will get a result against Everton?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 31, 2011, 05:56:32 AM
Every time Verm says we're going to get hammered we do ok. I think it'll be a draw, hopefully as exciting as last year's game.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: JoeHart on January 31, 2011, 06:18:27 AM
think we have a chance
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on January 31, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
think we have a chance
..........Nasri and possibly Denilson missing improves our chances of at least getting a draw. :woohoo:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on January 31, 2011, 04:16:04 PM
yeah refs do everything for the big sides is the kind of thing i thought when i heard koscielny got sent off :wanker:
........this is called a forum. You don't have to insult everyone who has a different opinion to you . Grow up lad.  :eh:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 31, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
There's good and bad news ... Nasri not playing is a big plus ... The ref is fucking Lee Mason , one of the worst of a bad bunch
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tellittoyourking on February 01, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
I'm going for a 2-1 win.

Arteta (we must be due a pen soon!) and Saha to continue on his way to 20 goals this season (mostly in the FA cup - hat-trick in the final).

Van Persie wonder strike for them (preferably from a Cesc assist for the fantasy team).

also, Heitinga sent of for drop kick on Sagna.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on February 01, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
I was there 15 years ago when Stuart and Kanchelskis won it 2-1...here's to another success. - but depends on how the players react to  losing  a five a side team from the training ground with little replenishment
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on February 01, 2011, 06:18:11 PM
I was there 15 years ago when Stuart and Kanchelskis won it 2-1...here's to another success. - but depends on how the players react to  losing  a five a side team from the training ground with little replenishment

I thought the Emirates was built in 2006....
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 01, 2011, 07:40:42 PM
Cant see anything beyond a comfortable Arsenal victory tbh. Sorry.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: fast lane on February 01, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Pissed off I have to miss this one.

A draw doesn't seem impossible to me.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 01, 2011, 09:40:55 PM
The Arse have won with a soft 'home ' penalty. It's getting like Anfield and Old Tafford  ,if the home side are losing they have to be given a pen. :bonk: I'd be happy with a point on Tues. :woohoo:
Clattenburg rebuilding his CV. Was great seeing Fabergas in his face. One twat deserves another.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: DanDan on February 01, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
Im there 2nite and every game ive been to has been a draw. So expect a 1 all 2nite
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2011, 11:25:55 PM
Any streams please. :cheers:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 01, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
Loads on here. More to come as kickoff approaches.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103719&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103719&part=sports)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 12:11:50 AM
Gonna need a big game from players prob up against fellow countrymen/friends

Baines - Walcott
Heitinga - Van Persie
Fabregas - Arteta
Rodwell - Wilshere
Saha - Koscieny

We win them battles then who knows
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: dunkster on February 02, 2011, 12:13:36 AM
the one game that i fear the most all season. They scare the shit out of me. On their day and when we arent at the races they give us a rugby score to cry over.
Would be made up just to get a win and happy enough with a draw.

kinda glad i got football tonight so i dont have to watch it. will be all over when i finish.

COYB.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 02, 2011, 12:30:56 AM
Going for a score draw.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on February 02, 2011, 12:41:54 AM
Going for a score draw.
......I've got Fellaini to score first and 2-2 correct score @200/1 on Blue Square. :bonk:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2011, 12:53:29 AM
is it available on television at all?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 02, 2011, 12:54:07 AM
vEFC EVERTON XI: Howard, Neville, Distin, Heitinga, Baines, Coleman, Fellaini, Rodwell, Arteta, Bilyaletdinov, Saha
Subs: Mucha, Anichebe, Jagielka, Osman, Gueye, Beckford, Baxter
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 12:56:42 AM
Really pleased Moyes has kept faith with that team.  COYB!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: DannyR on February 02, 2011, 12:57:30 AM
 Szczesny, Sagna, Fabregas, Koscielny, Rosicky, van Persie, Walcott, Song, Wilshere, Djourou, Clichy
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 12:57:32 AM
I like that team selection, let's do these!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Until Bally says so, I don't believe it.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:02:08 AM
Until Bally says so, I don't believe it.

Bally doesn't pick THE TEAM!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 01:03:46 AM
Bally doesn't pick THE TEAM!

He is the team.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 01:05:02 AM
Decent line up. In with a shout in this tonight.

We could all do with a positive result tonight.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 01:06:32 AM
Hopefully that team will be solid enough to stifle Arsenal's football to an extent.

I'd like to see Saha making more effort to push on in to the box though, he spent far too much time in deep / wide positions on Saturday.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:06:50 AM
"By 2300 GMT last night, every Premier League club had made at least one signing in the January transfer window, between them shelling out a grand total of well over 200m."

Well, although strictly true that is a bit of a stretch BBC.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
Decent line up. In with a shout in this tonight.

We could all do with a positive result tonight.

We really could!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 01:08:22 AM
Glad to see were Unchanged ,hope we have a shoot on sight approach against that random scrabble name goalkeeper , also gotta put pressure on djourou cos he is a terrible centre back and probably arsenals main weakness tonight. Expecting a defeat as Cesc Fabregas will probably run the show, but I still have hope we could nick something.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 01:13:49 AM
Dunno how I feel. There's a cloud over all Evertonians at the moment, it seems. A win would change that, at least for tonight!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 01:16:58 AM
Chance for Arteta to show he should be in the Spanish team. A masterclass against Cesc will make many people take notice.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 02, 2011, 01:18:34 AM
we could be in trouble if we go with our formation on sky sports. felli playing as the left winger with billy up top. wouldn't mind billy in the "cahill" role but felli on the wing, i'd have my doubts.  presume its really 4 5 1. hate playing arsenal. they seem to generally rape us
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 01:19:16 AM
He'll never be selected now.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:19:37 AM
we could be in trouble if we go with our formation on sky sports. felli playing as the left winger with billy up top. wouldn't mind billy in the "cahill" role but felli on the wing, i'd have my doubts.  presume its really 4 5 1. hate playing arsenal. they seem to generally rape us

LOL and we thought Andy Gray had left!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on February 02, 2011, 01:20:07 AM
That is the right team, imo. Well done Moyes. Its only the players who can change us now
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 01:22:19 AM
Wenger's record against Everton? Played 31 lost 4.

From the BBC.

That's mental.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 01:22:33 AM
Playing Felli on the wing might be tactical. Heitinga to hit long balls for Fellaini to win off Sagna. They do it from free kicks all the time.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 01:23:58 AM
I don't think Felli is playing on the wing, I think Sky have just screwed up the formation as they very often have done in the past.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 02, 2011, 01:26:41 AM
I don't think Felli is playing on the wing, I think Sky have just screwed up the formation as they very often have done in the past.

This. Lazy journalism.

Coleman Fellaini Arteta Bilya'

Rodwell

Saha
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 02, 2011, 01:29:30 AM
......I've got Fellaini to score first and 2-2 correct score @200/1 on Blue Square. :bonk:

I've done my first online bets.

16/5 5 on a draw in this game.

And a draw in the United-Villa 15/4 5
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: hienter on February 02, 2011, 01:34:39 AM
streaming of the game live here http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_1 (http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_1)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 02, 2011, 01:37:02 AM
Two games in four days may be rough on Neville's legs. And he may be extra rough on the Arsenal attacker's legs he's marking.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blueski on February 02, 2011, 01:41:31 AM
Two games in four days may be rough on Neville's legs. And he may be extra rough on the Arsenal attacker's legs he's marking.
Maybe he'll get fired up by the whole transfer fee embarassment
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:50:23 AM
Arteta looking fantastic so far!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 01:58:07 AM
Loving our play so far again.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: SilkyBarryHorne on February 02, 2011, 01:58:37 AM
Don't think they've got past Fellaini once yet!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:01:58 AM
They almost deserved that goal.

Game could go either way.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 02:07:56 AM
Walcott is going to cause problems tonight
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:08:27 AM
Bily close!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:09:57 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:09:59 AM
SAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:11:02 AM
Thank fuck for that.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 02:12:31 AM
blatant offisde!well thought they were gonna chalk that off
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: DannyR on February 02, 2011, 02:12:56 AM
Miles offside! but hey! i dont care
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:13:06 AM
Big debate about whether it was or not.

I don't care! Just how Mason doesn't try to even it up now.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 02, 2011, 02:13:21 AM
Let no-one say we've had no luck this season :D
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 02, 2011, 02:14:10 AM
a mile offside. but i'll take it. for anyone not watching the ref and linesman had a chat about 30secs after the goal and looked like they were going to disallow it after they saw the replayon the screen. nev nearly went mad
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 02:14:26 AM
I'm not a bird, but is he offside once the defender has touched it??
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 02, 2011, 02:14:38 AM
If that decision had been given against us, I would have been fucking fuming.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:14:40 AM
Deffo outside but we really need it!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:15:02 AM
Nevermind Neville, I was yelling too!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:16:33 AM
Fellaini sensational so far.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on February 02, 2011, 02:18:11 AM
Good job it wasn't some bird running the line  lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 02:22:33 AM
FFS that was too close for comfort
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:23:56 AM
Bily needs to steady himself. He can clearly cut it, but he's reverted to giving the ball away all the time.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:24:21 AM
Fellaini superb, Bily not having a good game so far.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Fern on February 02, 2011, 02:24:53 AM
I'm worried that the officials will try and even it up by giving them a dodgy penalty of soesomethin
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:25:34 AM
We've had the rub of the green decisions wise.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 02, 2011, 02:25:58 AM
they've cut us apart twice now. lucky the finishing was poor. billy struggling. osman prob on at half time i reckon. he can't hold possession. rodwell should have got a yellow there. good foul though
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 02:25:59 AM
Fucking Fabregas is a cheat it is about time referees got wise to his diving and booked him for it
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 02, 2011, 02:27:23 AM
Still badly lack pace
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Billyfozz on February 02, 2011, 02:27:54 AM
Fellaini.... WOW!  :love:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:28:38 AM
Wide open at the minute. Getting spicy too.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 02, 2011, 02:29:22 AM
Did we sign Lee Mason yesterday?!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:29:30 AM
Thing with Bily though, hasn't been great but got into goalscoring positions 3 times now.  Worth keeping on?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:30:49 AM
Fellaini so far...WORLD CLASS
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 02, 2011, 02:31:39 AM
Fellaini so far...WORLD CLASS

Is Song not 'pissing all over him' as usual?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:31:51 AM
We can sell him for 100mil in the summer, then.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 02, 2011, 02:33:34 AM
Is Song not 'pissing all over him' as usual?

 :snigger:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:34:04 AM
Delighted with that, then.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Thom on February 02, 2011, 02:34:30 AM
Quite pleased with our peformance so far, despite us getting the rub of the green from Mason. It'd just be our luck, ironically, that Mason will level it up with a sending off or penalty.

Fellaini has been man of the match so far. Makes ILB's claims that Song is a better player a load of nonsense.

More of the same please, lads, in the second half.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2011, 02:34:48 AM
Felliani's performance so far has been the best CM performance I have ever seen in an Everton shirt.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on February 02, 2011, 02:34:53 AM
We can sell him for 100mil in the summer, then.

But the question is, do we sell one of our best players, if not our BEST player for 100 million to revamp the team? much needed striker, much needed winger(s) and a few extras.. but then missing our dominance in the midfield that is called Fellaini?

Opinions??

Edit: I know we wouldn't sell him for 100 million,. its just because you qouted. :)
Realistically, we'd be looking at 30ish?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:36:08 AM
But the question is, do we sell one of our best players, if not our BEST player for 100 million to revamp the team? much needed striker, much needed winger(s) and a few extras.. but then missing our dominance in the midfield that is called Fellaini?

Opinions??

No we give him money from our own bastard pockets to stay. 
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bally on February 02, 2011, 02:36:52 AM
We have been decent would have been fuming if that goal was given against us, but we keep that performance up we could score another 2 here Fellaini has been class don't want to big him up to much though in case it bites me on the arse, can see beckford coming on with 20 to go
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:37:04 AM
Well, if bloody Carroll is worth 35mil, then Fellaini is worth at least that!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 02:37:26 AM
Fellaini so far...WORLD CLASS

Defensively yes. He's been a bit wayward with some of his distribution. Another decent performance all round though. Bily getting caught in possesion a bit, but he's getting into decent positions.

Look good when we've got the ball and pressing well when they have it, Arsenal know they're in a game.

And at last a bit of luck with the goal but grat to see Saha hitting some form again, 4 in 5 now. What money on Cesc diving in the box in the 90th minute though?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2011, 02:38:49 AM
doing alright arent we eh. billy has lost the ball a few times, but i think he's still our best option there, his passing and goal threat outweigh his cons for me. fellaini has been pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on February 02, 2011, 02:39:22 AM
Fellaini is a beast!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Danny on February 02, 2011, 02:39:27 AM
We have to stick with Bily! He's the only realistic chance we have of a decent LM for the next year or two so he basically has to make it.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 02, 2011, 02:39:43 AM
Arsenal already look like they're getting in one of their strops. We do need to be careful and avoid ANY contact in our area on one of their super lightweight players
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: efcforlife on February 02, 2011, 02:39:46 AM
I'm not a bird, but is he offside once the defender has touched it??

yeah he is...

if he had got himself back onside before it hit the arsenal defender then no he wouldnt be..

Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 02, 2011, 02:40:10 AM
A 15m bargain ... and people doubt that Moyes might not be able to spend big money wisely ?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bloody scally on February 02, 2011, 02:40:26 AM
Fellaini has been far and away the best player on the pitch. If we let him go in the summer, then I will storm to Goodison and murder the board.

Good to see Arteta showing glimpses of form.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:41:04 AM
Agreed Bily looks dangerous when forward but worried about his confidence if he loses the ball much more second half and he tires badly so would take him off before 70 and put Anichebe on to give them something totally different to think about.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 02:41:37 AM
yeah he is...

if he had got himself back onside before it hit the arsenal defender then no he wouldnt be..

Cheers, I genuinely wasn't sure. You could see from the angle behind the play he was a mile off. How the linesman missed that?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:42:05 AM
Fellaini has been far and away the best player on the pitch. If we let him go in the summer, then I will storm to Goodison and murder the board.

Good to see Arteta showing glimpses of form.

And you will get away with it too because we will be bloody queueing up!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on February 02, 2011, 02:42:27 AM
yeah he is...

if he had got himself back onside before it hit the arsenal defender then no he wouldnt be..



are u sure becuase technically saha would of been not playing the ball so not offside but then koscineley plays the ball almost like a backpass which becomes a new phase of ball
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 02:43:22 AM
A 15m bargain ... and people doubt that Moyes might not be able to spend big money wisely ?

Loved him bouncing Song out the way about 10 minutes from the end of the half.  ;D
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on February 02, 2011, 02:43:26 AM
I mentioned if Fellaini was on form they wouldnt be able to cope.  He will boss there midfield all day if he keeps his head.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: efcforlife on February 02, 2011, 02:46:17 AM
are u sure becuase technically saha would of been not playing the ball so not offside but then koscineley plays the ball almost like a backpass which becomes a new phase of ball

kosciglllyeitrigvn doesnt play a pass though its deflected from an Everton pass..

its the same phase

people will argue it though, its the offside rule.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:46:24 AM
To be fair Arteta has played well alongside Fella too.  Tidy and moving the play forward, ripped Fabregas a few times first half.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2011, 02:47:17 AM
after his preformance against chelsea in the cup, and now tonight. i cant help but think a few eyebrows will have been raised.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 02:47:48 AM
Good 1st half.  Goal was probably by letter of the law onside, but like Bally, would have been livid had that been given against us.

Fellaini outstanding, best performance I've seen in a blue shirt in a LONG time.  Rodwell looks much more like it tonight too.

COYB!!!!  Same second half please!!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: ALEX1878 on February 02, 2011, 02:48:17 AM
Song off  :snigger:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 02:48:44 AM
are u sure becuase technically saha would of been not playing the ball so not offside but then koscineley plays the ball almost like a backpass which becomes a new phase of ball

Saha playing the ball or not has nothing to do with it!  As soon as Coleman played that ball Saha was offside - the defender (who was trying to cut out the pass) is completely irrelevant.  If Koscielny had under control then tried to play it and it went to Saha then maybe onside, but that's just offside all day long.  A massive stroke of luck.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bloody scally on February 02, 2011, 02:51:38 AM
Imagine us getting behind him like we did last season, furthering his form and him doing things like this again:

Fellaini makes The Royal Fake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvOZxLEk6Ew#)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 02:51:39 AM
Back to the wall time now
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 02:52:11 AM
Billy to be subbed according to city,,.,,.... wish they would give him a run, he aint been great but dont fucking haul him off this soon

Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 02:53:04 AM
shit
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 02:53:36 AM
Missed the first half, anyone got a stream?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 02:56:43 AM
http://www.firstrow.net/watch/48211/2/watch-arsenal-vs-everton-fc.html (http://www.firstrow.net/watch/48211/2/watch-arsenal-vs-everton-fc.html)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 02, 2011, 02:57:21 AM
Who's the co-commentator on FSC? Could swear it's Steve Bunce!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 02:57:46 AM
Cheers,

Happy to see we're ahead!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 02:58:22 AM
If 'Arry saw that pass, there's no way he'd have bid 250k ;)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 02, 2011, 02:59:44 AM
Rodwell starting to tire, could be him off first for Osman especially with a yellow against his name.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 02, 2011, 03:01:18 AM
http://www.streamhub.tv/channels/V4.php (http://www.streamhub.tv/channels/V4.php)

best stream eva!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:03:09 AM
Schoolboy Arteta.  Come on lad, your better than that
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:03:29 AM
A red coming from somewhere soon. Hope it's not us.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 03:03:32 AM
Rodwell starting to tire, could be him off first for Osman especially with a yellow against his name.

And strangely, Bily playing better second half!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 03:04:03 AM
can defo see a red card coming for someone here, theres been some great gamesmanship from Arteta and Heitinga
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:04:59 AM
can defo see a red card coming for someone here, theres been some great gamesmanship from Arteta and Heitinga

My worry is Mason looking to "even" this up after the offside goal
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:05:41 AM
Arshavin coming on, hopefully he will have another one of his off days
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tellittoyourking on February 02, 2011, 03:06:29 AM
http://www.streamhub.tv/channels/V4.php (http://www.streamhub.tv/channels/V4.php)

best stream eva!

Agreed

Even works in work, nothing works in work!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 03:07:32 AM
Some of those Neville longballs have hinted as to why Redknapp thought he could get him for 250,000!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: chang on February 02, 2011, 03:07:57 AM
Quote
My worry is Mason looking to "even" this up after the offside goal

He is far too professional for that........ :whistle:

I hate watching these games when we are ahead!.......twitchy bum time indeed.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:08:11 AM
FFS Osman on for Bily
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 02, 2011, 03:08:15 AM
That was a freekick.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: chang on February 02, 2011, 03:09:58 AM
Quote
Even works in work, nothing works in work!

Staff included by the looks.... :woohoo:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:10:02 AM
Ah shit Bendtner coming on..... please no
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 02, 2011, 03:10:40 AM
Not sure about that sub. Billy seemed to be our biggest attacking threat. Nice feet. And Osman is shit on the left.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:12:52 AM
Not sure about that sub. Billy seemed to be our biggest attacking threat. Nice feet. And Osman is shit on the left.
anywhere
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:12:57 AM
cunt
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:13:09 AM
Arse.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on February 02, 2011, 03:13:32 AM
damn
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:13:38 AM
That was terrible defending, what was Rodwell thinking?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:13:54 AM
As soon as the substitution was made 1-1
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 02, 2011, 03:13:57 AM
jammy bastards or what.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 02, 2011, 03:14:18 AM
expected
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 03:14:30 AM
Awful defending.  FFS.  Beckford on please!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:14:34 AM
Fucking hell Rodwell.  Fuxake
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:15:05 AM
People always talk about Arsenal being a pure footballing team to admire, but I hate them. They are a bunch of cocks.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:15:16 AM
do well to hold out here

Felli and arteta quiet second half
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 03:15:34 AM
Urgh horrible last 20mins comin up!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 02, 2011, 03:15:42 AM
And thats why Rodwell is no CB.  Always said after that horrendous performance vs Blackpool pre season couple of years back the lad is no CB. Keep him in midfield ffs.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:16:00 AM
As soon as the substitution was made 1-1

So that goal was Osman's fault then?

That is the most simple argument you could possibly make. No surprise it's come from you.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:16:27 AM
do well to hold out here

Felli and arteta quiet second half
And bringing Osman is going to make the midfield even less affective
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:17:41 AM
I wouldn't have taken off Bily.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:18:10 AM
And bringing Osman is going to make the midfield even less affective

Its not all Osmans fault fucking hell, he does keep the ball when he gets it ffs

We look tired full stop

Oh ffs why are we wank at defending corners
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 02, 2011, 03:18:11 AM
 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:18:23 AM
For fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on February 02, 2011, 03:18:31 AM
shocking defending.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
AWFUL defending.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:18:36 AM
Fucking hell, ridiculous.

We really can't defend.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 03:18:40 AM
You couldn't fucking write it.  Cunts.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on February 02, 2011, 03:18:42 AM
what do they say rodwells worth, they will go on to win 3 or 2 1 now, look lads arsenal
are way ahead of us look at there bench you don't think the paupers that are Everton will
worry anyone in the top 4 in england its fuckin 2-1 now
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:19:14 AM
Shit. Absolute shit.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
So that goal was Osman's fault then?

That is the most simple argument you could possibly make. No surprise it's come from you.
No surprise we are losing. Why fix what is not broken
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Bally on February 02, 2011, 03:19:28 AM
fucking disgusting defending
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:19:45 AM
was that rodwell who lost him there. this is a disaster
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:19:46 AM
We gave them that.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:19:48 AM
Fucking schoolboy defending again.  Absolute shite.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:20:32 AM
You couldn't fucking write it.  Cunts.
You could, why did Moyes fuck about with the team
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Fern on February 02, 2011, 03:20:58 AM
Was Heitinga injured or something?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:21:23 AM
awful defendin arsenal,havent even been that good - were just shit
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on February 02, 2011, 03:22:19 AM
lads its no suprise we are shit all season.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:22:42 AM
Another great sub bringing on Anichebe in place of Coleman why not Beckford if anything
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 02, 2011, 03:23:00 AM
You could argue that since Osman came on, we've lacked an outlet, thus inviting more pressure.

But it would be churlish. I think the tide had already started to change.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:23:14 AM
Why no Beckford?  We're a goal down you daft cunt!!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:23:23 AM
surrending a lead so easy..
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Fern on February 02, 2011, 03:23:31 AM
SSN saying its 2-1 to them wtf is gng on???
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on February 02, 2011, 03:23:49 AM
is moyes givin up? why not coleman to rb and becks on for rodwell or arteta,
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2011, 03:24:12 AM
Just stopped watchin when he bought jags on instead of beckford WTF.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:24:37 AM
fern cos it is
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 02, 2011, 03:24:56 AM
SSN saying its 2-1 to them wtf is gng on???

They scored 2 goals after our 1.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:25:00 AM
You could argue that since Osman came on, we've lacked an outlet, thus inviting more pressure.

But it would be churlish. I think the tide had already started to change.
I wouldn't argue with that
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 02, 2011, 03:26:03 AM
Neville must be injured, otherwise that's just bizarre. We could definitely use Beckford here.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 02, 2011, 03:26:27 AM
yep, put a defender on and leave beckford on the bench when we are losing...
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 02, 2011, 03:27:14 AM
Just noticed that we're 4 points behind Birmingham and they have 2 games in hand.  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Amata on February 02, 2011, 03:27:25 AM
Moyes tactical genius at work again.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:27:32 AM
Not the best substitutions made today.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on February 02, 2011, 03:28:11 AM
sure thats all moyes knows fuck him out will bill after him or we could go down.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:28:26 AM
do we drop further towards the bottom? - blackpool lose that and were fucked
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:28:44 AM
yep, put a defender on and leave beckford on the bench when we are losing...
DM has a cunning plan  :headbang:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on February 02, 2011, 03:30:42 AM
osman is one fucking crap player if you got him in a raffle you would
give him back.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Amata on February 02, 2011, 03:31:00 AM
Obviously he's doing it to make a point to Bill
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2011, 03:31:14 AM
DM has a cunning plan  :headbang:

Fuck off mate, you've only started to appear when we start losing, just FUCK OFF.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:31:47 AM
osman is one fucking crap player if you got him in a raffle you would
give him back.
that is an insult to crap
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Meak on February 02, 2011, 03:32:08 AM
so we're losing n he puts anichebe in over beckford... wow
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:32:21 AM
Osman fucking awful.  Why not give Gueye a chance for 15 minutes instead?  :headbang:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:32:37 AM
Am amazed how Arsenal didnt raise their game it was just osmans fault FFS get a grip
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 03:32:55 AM
Fuck off mate, you've only started to appear when we start losing, just FUCK OFF.

Nice to see the pricks arrive that have been silent for 70 minutes.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:33:36 AM
so we're losing n he puts anichebe in over beckford... wow
even worse he brings Osman when we were winning... then look what happens
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Silas on February 02, 2011, 03:34:04 AM
This really is at least two points dropped now.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 02, 2011, 03:34:40 AM
Was Osman involved in either goal? Did Osman put in a piss poor header straight to Arsenal for the first goal? Was Osman none existent on his marker for their second?

Rodwell is to fucking blame for us being 2-1, Osman has offered very little going forward, but if your going to throw shit at our players, make sure you aim at the right one.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Amata on February 02, 2011, 03:35:01 AM
That was some of the worst defending i have ever seen, comedy capers
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:35:39 AM
that is an insult to crap

Just do one - How about picking out a player who isnt an easy pick, go on I dare you
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bigl1cks on February 02, 2011, 03:36:16 AM
Depressing. Rodwell did well first half, but loses him man twice for the 2 goals and we are 2-1 down.

Harsh lesson for the lad, lets hope he learns from it.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:36:20 AM
Am amazed how Arsenal didnt raise their game it was just osmans fault FFS get a grip
so just how has the arrival of Osman helped us. He is awful on the right but even worse on the left.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:36:36 AM
the life of being an evertonian. awful mistakes- they cost you points,we MUST beat blackpool now..
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:37:01 AM
even worse he brings Osman when we were winning... then look what happens

Your a tit of the highest order
I dont like to have a go on here but fuck me your a belter
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 03:37:09 AM
We're getting dragged right into the relegation fight.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:37:55 AM
This really is at least two points dropped now.

Very disappointing after the first 45
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:38:04 AM
getting- derek? we have been in one for a while
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on February 02, 2011, 03:38:33 AM
Defencively weve been fucking about all match so nothing shocking about the goal.

Why he wont play Beckford (after he was just hitting form) is a mystery to me.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:38:52 AM
Was Osman involved in either goal? Did Osman put in a piss poor header straight to Arsenal for the first goal? Was Osman none existent on his marker for their second?

Rodwell is to fucking blame for us being 2-1, Osman has offered very little going forward, but if your going to throw shit at our players, make sure you aim at the right one.
It cannot be coincidence that since Osman has come the play down the left sid has become totally non existant so enabling Arsenal to concentrate on attacking down their left. Osman offers absolutely nothing
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Thom on February 02, 2011, 03:38:58 AM
Completely lost the midfield battle halfway through that second half. Chasing shadows since they equalised. No hold up play at the top end and woeful at the back too.

The Blackpool game is a real six pointer now. Anything less than a win is unthinkable.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:39:20 AM
442 for blackpool surely?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 02, 2011, 03:39:49 AM
Moyes changed the game, terrible substitutions. Every one of them made us worse.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:40:00 AM
Just do one - How about picking out a player who isnt an easy pick, go on I dare you
???
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2011, 03:40:28 AM
It cannot be coincidence that since Osman has come the play down the left sid has become totally non existant so enabling Arsenal to concentrate on attacking down their left. Osman offers absolutely nothing

and you offer nothing to this forum so just fuck off.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:40:39 AM
Moyes changed the game, terrible substitutions. Every one of them made us worse.
Moyes changed the game, terrible substitutions. Every one of them made us worse.
totally agree
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on February 02, 2011, 03:41:02 AM
bily was starting to play well, no need to replace him, would have gave him 10 more mins, would have taken rodwell off for osman instead, and cant understand the jags sub, i think that we needed jags in the back four but not when we are a goal down, i dont think that the marking would have been as poor if jags had have been on.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Alex on February 02, 2011, 03:41:30 AM
Jagielka at RB when moyes took 2 RBs off, Moyes bottled it imo. Tried to sit back and defend.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Fern on February 02, 2011, 03:41:40 AM
Osman is shit though. The fact we complain about him so much is saying something surely?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 03:41:57 AM
Moyes changed the game, terrible substitutions. Every one of them made us worse.

This.  After an encouraging first half too.

Why the frig we've just given Anichebe another 4 1/2 years is beyond me.  He is Championship standard at best.  Saying that, that's where we're heading.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 03:43:16 AM
Jesus, that was bad and I didn't think we were all that first half either.  Odd substitutions too, I can understand Bily coming off because he was fading but still I'd rather see him stay on because he does provide an outlet on the left.

As if dealing with the result isn't enough though, you come on here and you find that clueless bellend everton.chris completely ignoring the game and just chatting shit about his own personal most hated players, and judging from other comments on here yet again he only appeared when things started going bad.

Worst poster on here by a mile.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: blue for you on February 02, 2011, 03:43:37 AM
i think to be honest most Everton fans don't give a fuck anymore, what did we do tonight
got a goal that was offside thats all, we never win at arsenal and never will with that squad
and moyes bring on osman when your winning says it all fuck off moyes and billy liar
we are just a bottom of the table team now, at least liverpool fuck out there manger we haven't
the balls to do it and to think we were laughing at liverpool this season whos the fucking laughing stock
now Everton fc are.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Padga on February 02, 2011, 03:44:07 AM
I think the most disappointing thing is having that feeling that makes you know you're going to blow a lead, and then watching it unfold.

Worried about Blackpool now...morale is something we desperately need to hold on to. This game last season was the catalyst for our recovery - I just hope that this isn't the opposite.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 03:44:34 AM
A lot of people will probably over react about todays result, but I didn't think we were that bad, we did seem to crumble after they scored though, the nature of the goal seemed to deflate us and we couldn't stop the predictable arsenal onslaught.  It is one of the hardest away grounds to come away from with something though, and we made it tough for them for 70 mins.  A bit disappointed with the substitutions, Victor looked awful, Jags looked off the pace and Ossie didn't do much.  I'm not too disheartened, but as has been for so many games this season, the next game against Blackpool is a must must must must must win!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: dekko on February 02, 2011, 03:45:08 AM
Did Neville get injured? must have gotten injured, or else i dont see the reason for Jags to come in.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 02, 2011, 03:45:12 AM
It cannot be coincidence that since Osman has come the play down the left sid has become totally non existant so enabling Arsenal to concentrate on attacking down their left. Osman offers absolutely nothing

You need to take a look at the goals again.  That wasnt just Arsenal pressure, that was League 1 defending.  Like in EVERY game at the Emirates, Arsenal take a grip of the ball latter part of the game and put teams under serious pressure. It was going to happen wether Osman came on or Billy stayed on.

What I don't expect to happen is for one of our 2 CB's to completely fuck up in their positioning. Rodwell handed Arsenal a victory that should have been a lot more hard fought for.

Ive seen him their twice now, and hand on heart he is the WORST CB I have ever seen in an Everton shirt. He has potential in midfield, but he is a fucking disaster at CB. Even Ian bloody Ormonroyd did him 3 times when I last saw him play there.

Didnt expect anything from tonight, so its easy to brush off for me, Blackpool FAR more important.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Meak on February 02, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
A lot of people will probably over react about todays result, but I didn't think we were that bad, we did seem to crumble after they scored though, the nature of the goal seemed to deflate us and we couldn't stop the predictable arsenal onslaught.  It is one of the hardest away grounds to come away from with something though, and we made it tough for them for 70 mins.  A bit disappointed with the situations, Victor looked awful, Jags looked off the pace and Ossie didn't do much.  I'm not too disheartened, but as has been for so many games this season, the next game against Blackpool is a must must must must must win!

who gives a shit if we were that bad, we blew a lead in 6 minutes, ffs we lost!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:46:04 AM
Osman is shit though. The fact we complain about him so much is saying something surely?

Saying something about the ones complaining I would say. Did you not watch the game?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on February 02, 2011, 03:46:17 AM
how was the substusions bad?

he brought osman on too close down and work hard at winning the ball

anchiebe was an attacking move


jagielka- well i guess it was because neville had picked up a knock and coleman was looking really tired and we needed to keep 4 at the back



lets not blame moyes for 2 bits of pathetic defending

if rodwell got any more or less on that header arshavin wouldnt of got near it


and to not mark a CB at a corner well... thats pathetic
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:46:56 AM
blackpool at home as- been a must win. since fuckin december! lol you,  have to win your home games, if we lose to them well...
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:48:16 AM
Osman is shit though. The fact we complain about him so much is saying something surely?
the trouble is there are too many people on here that think because he has been at the club since a lad that he is a good player, eventually they will wise up and see that he is just not good enough
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bloody scally on February 02, 2011, 03:48:36 AM
What has happened to heitingas ego? He let RvP push him and did nothing more than pout at him! He would have fucking eaten him and his kids last season! Needs to get his anger back.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 02, 2011, 03:49:01 AM
Moyes changed the game, terrible substitutions. Every one of them made us worse.

This. Take off two RBs and put on a CB and a winger/striker who is clueless on the ball. Taking off Billy was a poor decision and it showed almost immeadiately. Not sure where we need to go from here. I am not saying this to be pessimistic, but I am giving up hope on Europe and hoping to stay afloat and survive another year.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 02, 2011, 03:50:55 AM
What has happened to heitingas ego? He let RvP push him and did nothing more than pout at him! He would have fucking eaten him and his kids last season! Needs to get his anger back.

Sign he doesn't care anymore?

This. Take off two RBs and put on a CB and a winger/striker who is clueless on the ball. Taking off Billy was a poor decision and it showed almost immeadiately. Not sure where we need to go from here. I am not saying this to be pessimistic, but I am giving up hope on Europe and hoping to stay afloat and survive another year.

Europe? I'll be ecstatic if we are still in the Premiership next year.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 03:51:27 AM
thats all we can do- were in relegation fight, plain n simple
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 03:51:38 AM
the trouble is there are too many people on here that think because he has been at the club since a lad that he is a good player, eventually they will wise up and see that he is just not good enough

You don't half chat some utter shit, in fact have you actually said anything new since you begun posting on here?

Osman is limited, of course he is.  But in your pathetic little man way you manage to completely overlook what actually happened and offer absolutely nothing in the way of insight or meaningful comment and instead trot out the same old shit.  Because you seem so desperate to try to have your own petty agendas validated you manage to completely miss the point time and time again.

Like I said before, you're the worst poster on this site by an absolute fucking mile.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 02, 2011, 03:52:03 AM
time to log off. really reached my max level of depression. shocking second half. i need to try to get everton out of my head for a few days. the on field and off field situation we find ourselves in is sickening. i'm going to try to bury my head in the sand for a few days
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 02, 2011, 03:53:48 AM
A lot of people will probably over react about todays result, but I didn't think we were that bad, we did seem to crumble after they scored though, the nature of the goal seemed to deflate us and we couldn't stop the predictable arsenal onslaught.

We could have been the second best team in the world, but as long as Arsenal was ahead of us it doesn't matter how well we played. It was nice we played decently from 70 minutes, but it really doesn't mean much if you can't close out a game. Just saying.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:54:39 AM
the trouble is there are too many people on here that think because he has been at the club since a lad that he is a good player, eventually they will wise up and see that he is just not good enough

I dont think there is a single person who thinks that on here. You just obviously hate him on the other hand. If you read posts on here a lot are saying he should not have took Billy off but to blame Osman for a defeat that he truly had no part in just seems desperate
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 03:55:01 AM
the trouble is there are too many people on here that think because he has been at the club since a lad that he is a good player, eventually they will wise up and see that he is just not good enough

You really are a boring, predictable cunt. Same shit different week.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 02, 2011, 03:56:09 AM
I dont think there is a single person who thinks that on here. You just obviously hate him on the other hand. If you read posts on here a lot are saying he should not have took Billy off but to blame Osman for a defeat that he truly had no part in just seems desperate

Well as long as DM thinks it then there isn't much we can do.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on February 02, 2011, 03:57:53 AM
time to log off. really reached my max level of depression. shocking second half. i need to try to get everton out of my head for a few days. the on field and off field situation we find ourselves in is sickening. i'm going to try to bury my head in the sand for a few days
agreed! What a fucking nightmare this season is turning out to be
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 03:57:55 AM
Well as long as DM thinks it then there isn't much we can do.

If DM thought it he would start every week......... He doesnt
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 03:58:21 AM
You don't half chat some utter shit, in fact have you actually said anything new since you begun posting on here?

Osman is limited, of course he is.  But in your pathetic little man way you manage to completely overlook what actually happened and offer absolutely nothing in the way of insight or meaningful comment and instead trot out the same old shit.  Because you seem so desperate to try to have your own petty agendas validated you manage to completely miss the point time and time again.

Like I said before, you're the worst poster on this site by an absolute fucking mile.
I do have agendas and my point hits the target everytime, Osman is not good enough, just take a look at other post that same the same. Take your rose tinted glasses and take a good look at Osman, he runs around like a headless chicken, and passes like one. Believe it or not i love this club but it pains me to see players as poor as Osman wearing an Everton shirt
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on February 02, 2011, 04:01:29 AM
the same leon osman who did the messi style assist vs liverpool?


what has this got to do with osman anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i didnt know it was his job to mark Centre backs at corners?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2011, 04:02:06 AM
I do have agendas and my point hits the target everytime, Osman is not good enough, just take a look at other post that same the same. Take your rose tinted glasses and take a good look at Osman, he runs around like a headless chicken, and passes like one. Believe it or not i love this club but it pains me to see players as poor as Osman wearing an Everton shirt

Did you watch the derby?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on February 02, 2011, 04:02:14 AM
Bizarre.

I imagine Neville had a knock, there's no other reason he'd put Jags at right back, but then why not just put Coleman there?

Worst sub for me though was Osman on for Bily. The midfield lost shape, the small attacking option Bily offered was lost and the support Baines had was gone. I'd go as far as saying it was game changing. I can understand Anichebe coming on for his physical presence, but it just didn't work.

Two halves that were poles apart, which has been the case far too often this season.

One thing though, how depressing was it to see the resources Arsenal can call on (bearing in mind they don't spend vast sums) when chasing a game, and then compare them to ours. Deflating.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 04:03:05 AM
I do have agendas and my point hits the target everytime, Osman is not good enough, just take a look at other post that same the same. Take your rose tinted glasses and take a good look at Osman, he runs around like a headless chicken, and passes like one. Believe it or not i love this club but it pains me to see players as poor as Osman wearing an Everton shirt

You dont like him I get that but was it his fault for our defeat tonight like you keep saying it was?? NO
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Risky on February 02, 2011, 04:04:07 AM
I do have agendas and my point hits the target everytime, Osman is not good enough, just take a look at other post that same the same. Take your rose tinted glasses and take a good look at Osman, he runs around like a headless chicken, and passes like one. Believe it or not i love this club but it pains me to see players as poor as Osman wearing an Everton shirt

Wahey, here comes the legendary everton.chris "rose-tinted glasses" quote.  You really are like a broken record, you've got nothing of any note or worth to contribute.

But you keep telling yourself that you're making good points, I'm sure that you really believe it too.  The worst thing is that you're about 50 or something, and not 15 like your level of intelligence suggests.

I'll play ball with you here - I fucking love this club too, and I hate what I'm seeing just now.  But I'd rather look at the bigger picture and judge each thing that happens on it's individual merits, rather than just posting my own agenda over and over and over and over like you do.  I'll say when we've done well too, again something you appear to completely lack the abilitly to do.  Like I say, it's about looking at the reality of the situation rather than just repeating your own silly little grievance over and over again.

There's no rose-tinted glasses here, it's just that a lot of us on here are capable of making rational judgements, of analysing what's has actually happened, and have more to offer than just pure pointless negativity.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 04:04:12 AM
Well as long as DM thinks it then there isn't much we can do.
That is true, time for DM to realise it
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 02, 2011, 04:05:52 AM
alright we lost, but come on guys we played well, two defensive errors cost us to a premiership contending,league cup contending,fa cup contending, champions league contending team, no need to be so harsh, and why slag osman off?, it was moyes who bought him on if you are going to slag anyone off
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 02, 2011, 04:06:37 AM
One thing though, how depressing was it to see the resources Arsenal can call on (bearing in mind they don't spend vast sums) when chasing a game, and then compare them to ours. Deflating.

If we had players like that available on the bench, we wouldn't have had them for very long.  Bill would have sold them to pay the provi man off.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 02, 2011, 04:07:14 AM
time to log off. really reached my max level of depression. shocking second half. i need to try to get everton out of my head for a few days. the on field and off field situation we find ourselves in is sickening. i'm going to try to bury my head in the sand for a few days
 
    Iv'e tried that a few times this season....hasn't worked....back on the librium....
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 04:07:49 AM
Bizarre.

I imagine Neville had a knock, there's no other reason he'd put Jags at right back, but then why not just put Coleman there?

Worst sub for me though was Osman on for Bily. The midfield lost shape, the small attacking option Bily offered was lost and the support Baines had was gone. I'd go as far as saying it was game changing. I can understand Anichebe coming on for his physical presence, but it just didn't work.

Two halves that were poles apart, which has been the case far too often this season.

One thing though, how depressing was it to see the resources Arsenal can call on (bearing in mind they don't spend vast sums) when chasing a game, and then compare them to ours. Deflating.

They dont spend vast sums but arshavin was (guessing now waiting for a statto) 11m, Diaby 3m and bendtner comes out of a long line of youth players who money has been spent on. Whilst I agree with what your saying them not spending vast sums is different to ours

Even Koscieny (never heard of him before this year) was 9.5m (statto please)
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 02, 2011, 04:08:36 AM
all liberium does, is stop the shakes.. time for something stronger!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 02, 2011, 04:08:59 AM
time to log off. really reached my max level of depression. shocking second half. i need to try to get everton out of my head for a few days. the on field and off field situation we find ourselves in is sickening. i'm going to try to bury my head in the sand for a few days
Jesus H. Parnell. When the Irish can't take any more pain and suffering, you know things have gotten bad.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Amata on February 02, 2011, 04:13:09 AM
Moyes drags Bily off as he lost posession a few times, but he only lost posession as he was looking for a short pass and as per the Everton style everyone else was waiting for the long ball or for him to just kick it aimlessley out of play.  Thats not his game, he's a footballer.  He was providing an outlet and had 2 good opportunities to score. 

Ive noticed when certain other players give the ball away or lose possesion a few times and they manage to play the full 90.  Moyes needs to start haveing 1 rule for all.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: guymurphy1989 on February 02, 2011, 04:13:50 AM
Really lost our shape after bily went off, however did anyone else notice how Rodwell and Arteta switched roles in the second half? Why change it when it works? That was the beginning of the downfall for me, Rodwell caused a few problems in the first half with a few forward runs and Arteta does not offer you that. The jags for neville was beyond fucking bizarre, although i thought Coleman looked tired so understood that one.

Personally i thought it was typical everton tactics that lost us the game in the second half. This was a result that combined with the Chelsea performance could have really kicked us on, however as per this season we were let down AGAIN!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on February 02, 2011, 04:16:21 AM
They dont spend vast sums but arshavin was (guessing now waiting for a statto) 11m, Diaby 3m and bendtner comes out of a long line of youth players who money has been spent on. Whilst I agree with what your saying them not spending vast sums is different to ours

Even Koscieny (never heard of him before this year) was 9.5m (statto please)

I know they spend more than us (difficult?) but they don't spend City/Chelsea/Utd money and are still up there.

What I'm saying is, if only we had a bit of cash...
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 04:16:44 AM
Jeez you lot are depressing on here. Yes the 2nd half was not great but Arsenal want to win the league. They are a very good team. probably the best we have played this season. We sat with them for the 1st half and I thought played quite well. Fellaini was a monster again

2nd half they came back at us, Moyes tried t sure us up but had very little options on the bench. What was he supposed to do?

People need to be realistic. yes we lost but we fought hard and played quite well against a very very good Arsenal.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 02, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
Right result to be fair to Arsenal, just disappointing to lose in the way we did with a poor second half - both goals down to Rodwell, he'll learn.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 04:21:57 AM
Right result to be fair to Arsenal, just disappointing to lose in the way we did with a poor second half - both goals down to Rodwell, he'll learn.

But he was fantastic for the most part and was on there to mark Cesc one on one which he did very well. Besides the 2nd goal, we defended well and they had very few clear cut chances.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Ridge on February 02, 2011, 04:21:57 AM
Rather depressing end to the game, we looked very good first half.

I felt we came out second half, a bit too relaxed and comfortable. Ended up not giving them enough problems and too much possession along with the initiative. Saha was struggling to hold on to the ball and both wingers were struggling to get up and back in time. I felt Osman was being brought on to try and link play and hold the ball a bit better than Billy had. But before you knew it, we were chasing the game. Rodwell's error was costly and it was going to be difficult to deal with them after that, then free header was another major error.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 04:23:34 AM
I know they spend more than us (difficult?) but they don't spend City/Chelsea/Utd money and are still up there.

What I'm saying is, if only we had a bit of cash...

If only, gonna have that on my gravestone!!!!!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 02, 2011, 04:29:11 AM
I left about an hour ago to avoid reading all this, now I've read it.

Im about to play a 5 a side indoors, Im going to picture my opposition as everton.chris, needless to say, someones going through a wall tonight and Im getting sent off.

You hear that everton.chris? You're about to cause an innocent human being injury due to your pathetic posts, good work man. I hope you get charged with assault.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: edbootle on February 02, 2011, 04:31:34 AM
Times like this I'm glad I'm a heavy drinker.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 02, 2011, 04:44:12 AM
Times like this I'm glad I'm a heavy drinker.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: johnj on February 02, 2011, 04:48:42 AM
Really lost our shape after bily went off, however did anyone else notice how Rodwell and Arteta switched roles in the second half? Why change it when it works? That was the beginning of the downfall for me, Rodwell caused a few problems in the first half with a few forward runs and Arteta does not offer you that. The jags for neville was beyond fucking bizarre, although i thought Coleman looked tired so understood that one.

Personally i thought it was typical everton tactics that lost us the game in the second half. This was a result that combined with the Chelsea performance could have really kicked us on, however as per this season we were let down AGAIN!
Similar to how I saw it. Moyes then took Bily off to try hold out for a result, but Osman never plays well against Arsenal as he is like one of their worst reserve players and can't hold on to the ball. We didn't have enough belief to try to go for 2-0, and it was like last season again where we simply capitulated. Fellaini and Arteta played great first half, so wonder if Wenger's tactics undone us. Moyes outdone again and make poor sub choices.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 04:53:54 AM
Similar to how I saw it. Moyes then took Bily off to try hold out for a result, but Osman never plays well against Arsenal as he is like one of their worst reserve players and can't hold on to the ball. We didn't have enough belief to try to go for 2-0, and it was like last season again where we simply capitulated. Fellaini and Arteta played great first half, so wonder if Wenger's tactics undone us. Moyes outdone again and make poor sub choices.

Why were his subs poor? He has nobody on the bench to bring on.  The game plan was too stretch them wide down both flanks. that required Bilya and Coleman to do an awful lot of work which they did. Bilya isn't match fit for 90 min yet and Coleman has been playing non stop. What options did Moyes have?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on February 02, 2011, 05:05:31 AM
But he was fantastic for the most part and was on there to mark Cesc one on one which he did very well. Besides the 2nd goal, we defended well and they had very few clear cut chances.

Did you watch the game pal? Our defence was parting easier than Jordans legs.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 02, 2011, 05:08:53 AM
accong to moyes fabregas should have been sent off for something he said in the tunnell to the referee.....arsene wenger claims cesc didnt even speak to the referee
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 02, 2011, 05:10:33 AM
Nothing to add..... Billy is on twitter now though:

http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/Bilyaletdinov_7

It seems legit, as there is a picture of him he posted from the train.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 05:19:03 AM
Did you watch the game pal? Our defence was parting easier than Jordans legs.

I did. They Arsenal, they split defences often but how many saves did Howard have to make?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bluestevie on February 02, 2011, 05:50:39 AM
for seventy minutes we played well, then we had six minutes of madness that we couldnt recover from as much as we tried in the last 15. cant understand the logic of bringing jags on over beckford though, proper bizarre
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on February 02, 2011, 06:01:45 AM
I did. They Arsenal, they split defences often but how many saves did Howard have to make?
exactly apart from 2 waclott shots straight at him howard did shit all

i actually thought we defended pretty well for the fist 65 minutes
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: chang on February 02, 2011, 06:04:11 AM
Thing is for this old fella, is that I rather arrogantly consider myself more realistic than many on here, indeed last time Everto beat Arsenal away form home many of you were not even born, sobering thought that......if you know your history and so on.

As soon as we went 0-1 up I am watching thinking 2-1 to them, many things in life just happen, some are so predictable....has anyone noticed how many goals we conceed 2 mins either side of half time and then agin 70 to 75 minute mark? It's uncanny.

I try to console myself wit the thought that most teams lose at Emirates, except Newcastle, Hull etc LOL - for sure we can all play manager with hindsight and no pressure, I don't know a the forward lads, and it's easy to blame him, him and that.....Evertonians suffer donkeys years of pent up frustration, being the butt of many a joke and having the piss royally ripped day in day out, with the odd bit of relief, the odd good run, results, but by and large we end up dissapointed.

It is what it is - don't make it easier or right, but we have played Arsenal every year "away" since we last beat them way back in 1996. Piss poor by anyones standards.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: bedfordtoffee on February 02, 2011, 06:06:08 AM
Not sure how to take this.....  but all but Heitinga and Neville raced down the tunnel at the end  ignoring a 3,000 following. I waited to clap them off but was miffed when they did a runner....however, we could say they were too upset  to acknowledge our excellent support
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 02, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
exactly apart from 2 waclott shots straight at him howard did shit all

i actually thought we defended pretty well for the fist 65 minutes

I am agreeing with you. Read furthur up.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 02, 2011, 06:43:10 AM
For large portions of that game we were much the better team , we played probably our most difficult opponents we'll face all season except for maybe Utd and except for a couple of daft but fatal errors we should have come away from that game with something . Fellaini was far and away the best player on the pitch which really pissed off Fabregas who IMO is a horrible slimy little bastard . I don't know why Moyes made the substiutions he did but then I'm not the manager and he is in a far better position to know who's tiring and who's took a knock . One of the commentators summed it up during the game , When billionaire club City played at the Emirates they came and parked the bus .. We didn't , we more than matched them at their own game  at times in front of 60,000 of their own fans , I still maintain that we are not that far short of being a top 4 club , our performances against the better teams prove that ... but  If Felli is allowed to go though then that goes out of the window

PS . Moyes is not a liar , if he says Fabregas was badly out of order in the tunnel then he was
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2011, 06:48:35 AM
PS . Moyes is not a liar , if he says Fabregas was badly out of order in the tunnel then he was

Wenger denied it at first, then when quizzed about it again, he asked for video evidence, knowing full well it hadn't been caught on camera. I'm pretty sure something happened, I can't see Moyes making the story up.

To be fair to Wenger, before that, he said we were outstanding in the first half.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: DanDan on February 02, 2011, 06:54:16 AM
I hate them! Thought the ref was poor! 5 bookings for us?? And what was walcunt playing at the end?
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on February 02, 2011, 06:56:23 AM
Just got back in and although I'm gutted I thought there were a lot of positives to take from the first half at least. Shame we conceded two silly goals really. Onwards and upwards though and hopefully we come out and batter Blackpool on Saturday.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sprooly on February 02, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
I am agreeing with you. Read furthur up.
yeah i know thats why i wrote exactly
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2011, 01:49:35 PM
Genuinely think we did alright last night. There's only probably one game tougher than Arsenal away in the Premier league and that's United away. I thought we set out well, got the goal (somewhat fortuitous) and still created a few chances. There was a bit of possession we had at the start of the 2nd half where we forced a few corners but couldn't do anything with them, and still kept it fairly tight at the back. We couldn't have been much more open or they would have destroyed us. As has been our downfall this season we conceded avoidable goals, Rodwell was unlucky that his header went straight to Arshavin and then we've not marked up well enough from a corner.

I'm assuming that Neville was injured and therefore had to come off, Coleman and Bily both looked knackered so I think that's why Jags was on,as he was best suited to right back out of our subs. The Victor sub I can only assume was due to Moyes seeing him has being better in the air, so that he and Fellaini could knock down long balls in the hope of snatching an equaliser. Still I would always rather see Beckford introduced before Victor has Jermaine is a more natural goalscorer. Ossie didnt do much when he came on,but he is not the reason we lost!

Come the end of the season, it is not going to be cos we lost against arsenal away that we didn't finish where we wanted to, it's the matches we expect to win that we keep throwing away. Let's hope Blackpool on Saturday isnt one of them!
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Derek on February 02, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
I was fairly angry come full-time last night, but I've cooled off a bit now.

As Stealth says, it's not this game which has put us where we are, it's the accumulation of having a crap season and barely beating anyone in the league.

We were excellent last night in the first half, Fellaini especially, but fell away a bit in the second. Dodgy defending let in two goals and we ended up losing a game we had got ahead in via a pretty dodgy decision. Obviously we hate losing, but I feel my anger at the result from yesterday wasn't about it specifically, but the season as a whole.

I wasn't too sure about the subs, to be really honest. Bily looked tired, but Osman hardly offered much more. If Neville was injured, the Jags sub makes sense, but I have to say I'd like to have seen Beckford on, because the guy scores goals, given time on the pitch, and we needed a goal.

I'd like to hear what Fabregas said in the tunnel, and I have no doubt Moyes is telling the truth. Fabregas seems like an absolute arse.

Onto Blackpool on Saturday now. Even they've strengthened since we played them. They'll be right up for it. We need a win, even more so because we're in and around each other in the table.

What a shit season.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: Blueney-tunes on February 02, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
I did. They Arsenal, they split defences often but how many saves did Howard have to make?

Well if thats your analysis as to why our defence played then ok.
Title: Re: Arsenal vs Everton
Post by: everton.chris on February 02, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
I left about an hour ago to avoid reading all this, now I've read it.

Im about to play a 5 a side indoors, Im going to picture my opposition as everton.chris, needless to say, someones going through a wall tonight and Im getting sent off.

You hear that everton.chris? You're about to cause an innocent human being injury due to your pathetic posts, good work man. I hope you get charged with assault.
The only tackle you are any good at, is playing with it in your knickers. Enjoy flicking your clit