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Title: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 12, 2012, 06:12:46 AM
Aston Villa v Everton
Villa Park
Saturday 14th January @ 3pm

Will be another hard slog this one but can see us getting a point. 2-2 Anichebe and Donovan with our goals.

                  Howard

Neville Duffy Heitinga Baines

Drenthe Fellaini Cahill Donovan

               Saha Anichebe
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: JoeHart on January 12, 2012, 06:29:05 AM
Will be another hard slog this one but can see us getting a point. 2-2 Anichebe and Donovan with our goals.

                  Howard

Coleman Duffy Heitinga Baines

Drenthe Fellaini Barkley Donovan

               Vellios Anichebe
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blargins on January 12, 2012, 06:33:42 AM
Think I'll miss this one, going out. Doubt I'll miss much.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Confucius on January 12, 2012, 06:38:39 AM
I wouldn't mind Bilya playing again. Wasn't too bad today. Drenthe on at 55 minutes with a tiring team would be a better bet
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 12, 2012, 06:39:23 AM
Think I'll miss this one, going out. Doubt I'll miss much.

Get the feeling that no one will play particularly well, villa will hardly have any shots but they will still score, Saha will hardly chase down anything and that we will pick up another injury, probably either Fellaini or Heitinga. Still I might be wrong!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: DannyR on January 12, 2012, 07:01:15 AM
            Howard
Neville Duffy Heitinga Baines
Drenthe Fellaini Cahill Gueye
               Donovan
               Vellios

Can see this being a boring game 1-1

Bent for them, Fellaini header for us.

Hopefully we see McAleany and McFadden make an apperence along with the Straq.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Murder on January 12, 2012, 07:25:02 AM
Alex Mcleish will be desperate to claim back his 'Most Negative Manager in the Premiership' title this weekend as he welcomes David Moyes' team to Villa Park. Moyes, who is coming off the back of a self-proclaimed 'good performance' in which his team successfully had zero shots on target at White Heart Lane, has been riding his wave of boredom up and down English football grounds since the beginning of the season, managing to get his two main threats, Louis Saha and Tim Cahill, to play over 2000 minutes combined and score 1 goal.

If the pundits are to be believed, Moyes will line up with his patented 'Fake 4-4-2'. Starting with more than one striker, Moyes lures Everton fans into a false sense of belief that his team may attack utilising two strikers who naturally play in that position. This, of course, is not to be confused with Moyes' 4-4-1-1 in which he applies Tim Cahill in the 'Tim Cahill role'. Everton supporters have become increasingly disenchanted with the Tim Cahill role as they are unsure as to what it is or what it does. If Moyes does go for his fake 4-4-2 we are likely to see numerous players playing out of position which is guaranteed to add to the boredom and be the catalyst for the manager keeping his dullness title.

Alex Mcleish is surely going to look to play Emile Heskey as a winger to tackle the audacious 6 defenders Moyes usually has in his starting eleven. One ace that Mcleish does have up his sleeve that could trump Moyes Boys is the amount of terrible young prospects he has available on his bench. Chris Herd, Barry Bannan, Fabian Delph and Ciaren Clark will be itching to get off the bench and effect the game in the most minuscule way possible. Expect Mcleish to start with one upfront and to look to Richard Dunne and James Collins to place as many headers over the opposing team's bar from set pieces.

A tough encounter between two incredibly depressing football sides in which boredom is most like going to be the winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Confucius on January 12, 2012, 09:50:35 AM
Alex Mcleish will be desperate to claim back his 'Most Negative Manager in the Premiership' title this weekend as he welcomes David Moyes' team to Villa Park. Moyes, who is coming off the back of a self-proclaimed 'good performance' in which his team successfully had zero shots on target at White Heart Lane, has been riding his wave of boredom up and down English football grounds since the beginning of the season, managing to get his two main threats, Louis Saha and Tim Cahill, to play over 2000 minutes combined and score 1 goal.

If the pundits are to be believed, Moyes will line up with his patented 'Fake 4-4-2'. Starting with more than one striker, Moyes lures Everton fans into a false sense of belief that his team may attack utilising two strikers who naturally play in that position. This, of course, is not to be confused with Moyes' 4-4-1-1 in which he applies Tim Cahill in the 'Tim Cahill role'. Everton supporters have become increasingly disenchanted with the Tim Cahill role as they are unsure as to what it is or what it does. If Moyes does go for his fake 4-4-2 we are likely to see numerous players playing out of position which is guaranteed to add to the boredom and be the catalyst for the manager keeping his dullness title.

Alex Mcleish is surely going to look to play Emile Heskey as a winger to tackle the audacious 6 defenders Moyes usually has in his starting eleven. One ace that Mcleish does have up his sleeve that could trump Moyes Boys is the amount of terrible young prospects he has available on his bench. Chris Herd, Barry Bannan, Fabian Delph and Ciaren Clark will be itching to get off the bench and effect the game in the most minuscule way possible. Expect Mcleish to start with one upfront and to look to Richard Dunne and James Collins to place as many headers over the opposing team's bar from set pieces.

A tough encounter between two incredibly depressing football sides in which boredom is most like going to be the winner.

Enjoyed that. Pretty accurate too
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 12, 2012, 12:40:39 PM
Can't see us getting much out of this either. 1-0 defeat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 12, 2012, 02:42:07 PM
Murder: that was pretty damn funny!

Although 2 little points: no one was really playing out of position against spurs where they?possible exception of Cahill.
                                     Only 4 defenders started last night, including baines who is probably our most attacking player if Drenthe doesn't play

But I'm nit picking, that was great!keep up the good work
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 12, 2012, 03:41:08 PM
1-1

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 12, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
Oh great.  Villa have signed Robbie Keane on loan, just in time to face us.  Cunt always has a field day against us
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: plumber on January 12, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Murder: that was pretty damn funny!

I thought it was pretty damn boring.
It was not accurate also as you've mentioned yourself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bally on January 12, 2012, 06:38:49 PM
Alex Mcleish will be desperate to claim back his 'Most Negative Manager in the Premiership' title this weekend as he welcomes David Moyes' team to Villa Park. Moyes, who is coming off the back of a self-proclaimed 'good performance' in which his team successfully had zero shots on target at White Heart Lane, has been riding his wave of boredom up and down English football grounds since the beginning of the season, managing to get his two main threats, Louis Saha and Tim Cahill, to play over 2000 minutes combined and score 1 goal.

If the pundits are to be believed, Moyes will line up with his patented 'Fake 4-4-2'. Starting with more than one striker, Moyes lures Everton fans into a false sense of belief that his team may attack utilising two strikers who naturally play in that position. This, of course, is not to be confused with Moyes' 4-4-1-1 in which he applies Tim Cahill in the 'Tim Cahill role'. Everton supporters have become increasingly disenchanted with the Tim Cahill role as they are unsure as to what it is or what it does. If Moyes does go for his fake 4-4-2 we are likely to see numerous players playing out of position which is guaranteed to add to the boredom and be the catalyst for the manager keeping his dullness title.

Alex Mcleish is surely going to look to play Emile Heskey as a winger to tackle the audacious 6 defenders Moyes usually has in his starting eleven. One ace that Mcleish does have up his sleeve that could trump Moyes Boys is the amount of terrible young prospects he has available on his bench. Chris Herd, Barry Bannan, Fabian Delph and Ciaren Clark will be itching to get off the bench and effect the game in the most minuscule way possible. Expect Mcleish to start with one upfront and to look to Richard Dunne and James Collins to place as many headers over the opposing team's bar from set pieces.

A tough encounter between two incredibly depressing football sides in which boredom is most like going to be the winner.

Nice, different approach to normal cheers
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 12, 2012, 07:08:05 PM
2-1 either way

Don't care about the team or formation we play, would just like more than 1 goal and a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on January 12, 2012, 08:21:49 PM
Unfortunately I see our run of poor play and luck continue. I think we will go close a lot and out play them, but our lack of goal scoring continues as we have no finishing touch. 1-0 to Villa who will score off of some form of a deflection or audacious goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: steve81 on January 12, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
2-0 to them i cant see us scoring other than a penalty
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: RICH on January 12, 2012, 08:57:29 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cozzie on January 12, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
Robbie Keane in the 52nd minute. Villa win 1-0

77th Minute, bilyaletdinov to hit a shot over the bar.

Moyes to say we played well but lacked that "finishing touch"

No investment in the coming weeks.

I fart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 13, 2012, 04:36:57 AM
2-0 Villa

How i want us to line up

Howard
Neville Duffy Heitinga Baines
Drenthe Cahill Felliani Billy
Vellios Donovan

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 13, 2012, 04:41:21 AM
7 nil everton

                           Gibson
Gibson   Gibson                 Gibson    Gibson
Gibson   Gibson                 Gibson    Gibson
             Gibson                 Gibson
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: JoeHart on January 13, 2012, 05:00:08 AM
potentially the worst game of the season to watch based on the 2 managers

it wont be easy to win the worst game of the season to watch title as there have been some shockers so far, but something tells me with moyes and mcleish being their usual negative selves, this will be a car crash.

0-0

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on January 13, 2012, 05:53:02 AM
4-0 to us, Saha hatrick and Heitinga with a 25 yard screamer.
Thats how it happened in my dream and one day one of them will come true, and 4-0 versus Villa seems the one that most realsitically could come true.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluestevie on January 13, 2012, 06:46:30 AM
1-0 to us, debut goal for gibson
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Toffeeblue22 on January 13, 2012, 02:24:01 PM
anybody know if theres any tickets left for this game...(away end of course)...dont want to get my hopes up and start planning now ive got sat off if none left,would need two seats together for me and the lad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bally on January 13, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
this going to be a dire dire game with the excitement of a brick thrown in for good measure 0-0 all over it, or by some form of miracle Everton will actually turn it on with a backs to the wall mentality and twat them 4-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Azz on January 13, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Distin is defiantly out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Straq attack on January 13, 2012, 05:32:54 PM
I wouldn't put it past us to nick a 1-0 here:

                     Howard

Neville    Heitinga     Duffy      Baines

Donovan Gibson       Felli       Drenthe
                       Cahill
                       Saha

Maybe dare I say a Cahill or Saha goal....
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: RICH on January 13, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Robbie Keane in the 52nd minute. Villa win 1-0

77th Minute, bilyaletdinov to hit a shot over the bar.

Moyes to say we played well but lacked that "finishing touch"

No investment in the coming weeks.

I fart.

robbie keane has not received   international clearance yet and i think they only had until noon today
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 13, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
Howard
Hibbert Neville Heitinga Baines
Donovan Gibson Fellaini Bily
Cahill
Saha

1 1 Keane is bound to score and do that horrible celebration. Bily for us

Thats not the team I would pick by the way
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: RICH on January 13, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
keane has been cleared to play
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 13, 2012, 08:47:11 PM
keane has been cleared to play

Good his legs are gone! Him and Heskey up top please!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
A borefest 3-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 13, 2012, 10:03:09 PM
What do you think Duffy, Pip, Hibbert or Rodwell to start at the back in Distins absence... i vote Duffy i think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 13, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
I think the back four picks itself right now:

Neville Heitinga Duffy Baines

I thought Hibbert was out for a month, but perhaps they'd push him out early. I'd rather we not risk more injuries though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 13, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
I would take a complete reverse of last seasons game where we battered them but somehow managed to get beat! But i expect a terrible game and a point shared. I imagine well probably line up with the same as the Spurs game but with Duffy in for Distan, can't see Moyes stickin Gibson in straight away it would be completely out of character. Plus I also thought we didn't play to badly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: keiko on January 14, 2012, 04:09:52 AM
0-1 (Donovan)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on January 14, 2012, 07:05:04 PM
3-3

You heard it here first!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 14, 2012, 07:10:06 PM
What do you think Duffy, Pip, Hibbert or Rodwell to start at the back in Distins absence... i vote Duffy i think.



If Hibbert is fit, either him or Neville will play at CB, probably Hibbert as Neville as said he doesn't want to fill in at CB anymore if possible. With us signing Gibson, i wouldn't be surprised to see him put straight in and Felli used at the back as im not convinced Moyesy as enough faith or trust in Duffy to start him in the prem?!.

But me personally, i'd give Duffy a shot, he didn't do himself no harm Wednesday and as been playing all season for Scunthorpe, although a totally different level, so he's fit and ready to go so i'd give him a start and see how he gets on, it could be the making of him, haha or vice versa unfortunately but i hope he proves himself?!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ridge on January 14, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Duffy start, Distin needs a rest to recover and Duffy seemed match sharp from his time playing at Scunthorpe. We may well still probably have Distin on the bench in case, but I don't think he will feature unless needed.

I'm going for a 2-1, Baines, Donovan, Albrighton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on January 14, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
am dreadin this 1st eleven :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thom on January 14, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Team confirmed: Howard, Neville, Heitinga, Duffy, Baines, Fellaini, Gibson, Cahill, Donovan, Drenthe, Saha.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on January 14, 2012, 08:08:19 PM
that midfield actually looks very good
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 14, 2012, 08:08:50 PM
Everton XI v Aston Villa: Howard, Neville, Heitinga, Duffy, Baines, Donovan, Fellaini, Gibson, Drenthe, Cahill, Saha.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
looks a better balanced midfield actually! COYB

good luck to duffy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 14, 2012, 08:09:33 PM
Team confirmed: Howard, Neville, Heitinga, Duffy, Baines, Fellaini, Gibson, Cahill, Donovan, Drenthe, Saha.

             howard
neville heitinga duffy baines
          fellaini  gibson
 donovan  cahill    drenthe
               saha

good team

EFC subs: Mucha, Gueye, Vellios, Anichebe, Stracqualursi, Bilyaletdinov, McFadden
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 08:09:40 PM
Good side despite the impotent Saha and Cahill, goals all through that midfield!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
EFC subs: Mucha, Gueye, Vellios, Anichebe, Stracq, Billy, McFadden
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 14, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
Not a bad team , I'm happy with that .... sort of
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
It's arguably our most attacking lineup all season.  The more I look, the more I like!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 14, 2012, 08:17:18 PM
On paper the side looks good, can they produce the goods today though?. I hope so!. Glad he's shown faith in Duffy and i hope he does well!. and good luck to Gibson, hope he strikes up a good understanding and partnership with Felli.

There's one thing though with that bench, he wont be making any negative, defensive minded changes in the game!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on January 14, 2012, 08:21:35 PM
saha and cahill just dont work ffs. moyes must hate not having a genuine alternative to saha
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: EFCdanger on January 14, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
With our current injuries I'm happy with that, can't wait to see how we'll line up with everyone fit!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cozzie on January 14, 2012, 08:23:57 PM
Good line up

For once we have actually got danger and pace on both flanks.

I would have preferred to see maybe Vellios/Anichebe/Straq starting upfront with Saha.

But on the other hand, Cahill hasent scored in over a year, and has scored more goals against villa than he has any other club.

Surely one of either Cahill and Saha is gonna break their drout today?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 08:23:58 PM
saha and cahill just dont work ffs. moyes must hate not having a genuine alternative to saha

No they definitely don't, it's obvious his other strikers aren't much better though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Also reasonably happy with that hopefully we can get something today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 14, 2012, 08:28:15 PM
Feeling quite optimistic.still Agbonlahor will definitely score!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on January 14, 2012, 08:28:41 PM
Doesn't fix our scoring problems but not sure if any other two players would do better than Cahill and Saha. Personally I'm happy with the lineup though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
None of our strikers have scored when they have started a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Azz on January 14, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
Lads on SSN saying it's incredible that we're not bottom of the league.  Given our complete lack of scoring poor.  Merson saying if he had money and was looking to buy a club he would go straight for us.

Everyone apart from Charlie have Villa, Charlie has a score draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 14, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
As bad as Villa are they still have two quality forwards in Agbonlahor and Bent. That'll prove the difference at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 08:31:15 PM
I reckon it'll be us. I think we have a bit more about us around the park, although they definitely have better goal scorers (!), but if we play well, I see us winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 08:31:41 PM
Probably the best we can do, but it depends on the instruction and roles given to the players. I really hope we don't see Louis everywhere but in the box again. Him or Cahill must score sometime.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
It's at the stage now (I was saying to the wife just a minute ago) where they just have to score, the duck HAS to be broken sometime.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 14, 2012, 08:38:04 PM
Lads on SSN saying it's incredible that we're not bottom of the league.  Given our complete lack of scoring poor.  Merson saying if he had money and was looking to buy a club he would go straight for us.

Everyone apart from Charlie have Villa, Charlie has a score draw.


Yeah, saw that. But what they say is true really, how aren't we bottom when were struggling to score goals and playing as bad as we are?. And what about Le Tissier, 'Gibson is about Everton's level', cheeky cunt! haha.

Todays line up with both Drenthe and Donovan in it smells of counter attacking football today. When they was both on the field at Spurs we was breaking alot (although it never came to much apart from a couple of penalty decisions) with those two at the heart of it and i can see the same happening today with Villa being the home team and the emphasis on them to get at us.

We could get some joy today from that?!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 08:38:34 PM
Good luck to Duffy and Gibson!

The midfield looks like a midfield for once rather than an assembly of misfit defenders. It just depends whether we can actually turn that into goals.

I hope Saha can find his shooting boots today or failing that we keep things level until we can bring on a sub as the substitute forwards usually do better on the scoring front these days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 08:43:51 PM
Quite liking the look of that side, got a bit of balance for a change.  Just a pity we don't have a forward to put up front so we can drop kick saha into the ressies
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 14, 2012, 08:45:22 PM
I hate playing Villa, we frequently play well and rarely win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 08:50:19 PM
Shows how desperate we are when a player signs Friday afternoon then gets a start Saturday.

I would rather have Anichebe up front over Saha, both threaten the goal as often as the other but at last Victor can let the centre defenders know he's playing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 08:51:03 PM
I hate playing Villa, we frequently play well and rarely win.

So true. Their fans are just bad arrogant Brummies too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 14, 2012, 08:54:30 PM
Shows how desperate we are when a player signs Friday afternoon then gets a start Saturday.

I would rather have Anichebe up front over Saha, both threaten the goal as often as the other but at last Victor can let the centre defenders know he's playing.

I suspect Vic isn't fully fit yet, he's only been back in training just over two weeks now and he was out for 4 months. He puts on weight a whole lot faster than most other players as well. I'm fairly certain we'll see him off the bench today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 08:54:30 PM
Exactly. This game used to be a spectacle. Odds on it'll be shit today!

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
Shows how desperate we are when a player signs Friday afternoon then gets a start Saturday.

I would rather have Anichebe up front over Saha, both threaten the goal as often as the other but at last Victor can let the centre defenders know he's playing.

Anichebe is more suited to a sub role (like most/all of our forwards) at least until his fitness gets better. Using his strength to get past tired defenders is his best chance to score at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cantoffie on January 14, 2012, 08:56:02 PM
2-1 Villa tbh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 09:09:53 PM
Yerrrr Gibson is a bit shit like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Yerrrr Gibson is a bit shit like.

If there was a NSNO sweep stake on who would say that first I would have gone for you
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 09:13:56 PM
what a fucking ball
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
Cahill :(

Great ball from Gibson
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Forward pass by one of our players? Fook me.

Gibson both times.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
Yerrrr Gibson is a bit shit like.

Aside from that ball to Cahill
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Our two forwards are so lacking in confidence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 09:16:54 PM
If there was a NSNO sweep stake on who would say that first I would have gone for you

Why me
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Saha has the touch of Peter Sutcliffe
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: EFCdanger on January 14, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
Quality interception from Duffy, showed confidence and composure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
Good save from Given
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
Saha unlucky
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
Man that was close. Nobody in the middle to follow up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: howard1334 on January 14, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
This is just a lot more fun to watch than past games this season.. And fuck.. saha... good save given
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 09:18:59 PM
Decent header by Saha - shocking touch 2 mins earlier tho.

Donovan getting some good ball at the moment, not a bad start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on January 14, 2012, 09:19:10 PM
Man that was close. Nobody in the middle to follow up.

There were three players following up, it just missed them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 14, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Every time I see Given play against us he has a blinder.
Title: Re: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:19:24 PM
Drenthe been poor so far
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:19:29 PM
Drenthe's having a bit of a horror show so far
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ridge on January 14, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
Why always me
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 14, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
We certainly look the better side.

Probably famous last words those.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 09:19:59 PM
Man that was close. Nobody in the middle to follow up.

This is typical against Villa. Please don't let there be a sucker punch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 09:21:58 PM
This is typical against Villa. Please don't let there be a sucker punch.

Yup, they are there for the taking
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:22:16 PM
There were three players following up, it just missed them.

 just like to see 1 player hanging back a bit rather than everyone rushing toward the goal. But whatever you are right and they can't be everywhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
Oh my goodness. Saha :( :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Trowel on January 14, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
The ball goes in the net Louis, not you...
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:23:42 PM
We should play Warnock up front :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
Warnock looking more likely there than Saha did before
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:24:14 PM
I know Drenthe isn't playing well, but anyone else get the feeling our midfield is ignoring him?  Plenty of chances to move the ball forward and wide, but the guy on the ball just stops and turns back inside...

Freaking Saha again...and Given...Gah.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:24:48 PM
The ball goes in the net Louis, not you...

It really is back to basic for Saha at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 09:25:18 PM
No bravery there.
Title: Re: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Possible penalty to be fair to Saha
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: RICH on January 14, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
yak straight red today so will miss next week :) how the fuck we not at least 2 up
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 09:26:23 PM
The sooner Saha's meal ticket, er I mean contract is up, the better.  Everything is half arsed, lazy bastard
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
A midfielder is going to have to score here. Our forwards couldn't get better chances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cozzie on January 14, 2012, 09:26:36 PM
Looking Comfortable
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 09:27:34 PM
Jesus Louis - do one thing or the other, either go down for the Pen or attack the ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: EFCdanger on January 14, 2012, 09:27:56 PM
Watching replays and it looks like a penalty for Saha.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Trowel on January 14, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Commentators making a lot of the tug, but even that shouldn't have stopped Saha scoring. Credit to Donovan too for getting the cross in as both defenders had a head start on him to that ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:28:05 PM
Looking Comfortable

Don't say that.
Title: Re: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Possible penalty to be fair to Saha

Good point. Watching with sound off and babysitting, you tend to miss details!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:28:56 PM
This is so typical of our games, on top and can't score. Open to a deflected off arse sucker punch.

IF only we could score first for once.

Villa Park is about as deflated as Goodison at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:29:06 PM
Definitely a reasonable penalty shout for me.  I think Saha is playing well tbh, he desperately needs some luck.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
CAHILL FOR EVERTON - Commentator
*Cahill loses ball*
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:29:46 PM
Neville is always a red card waiting to happen. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Trowel on January 14, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
Donovan closing down a player on the edge of the box and blocking the cross - teach everyone else what you just did Landon!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:31:25 PM
Good tracking back Drenthe
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:31:27 PM
Drenthe improving as the game comes on, lovely interception.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:31:58 PM
Should get him some brownie points from Moyes
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 09:32:16 PM
Drenthe did well there
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on January 14, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
yakubu wont be back next week then
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:32:30 PM
Drenthe improving as the game comes on, lovely interception.

I want our midfield to get the ball to him more.  I dont think we use him enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:34:18 PM
yakubu wont be back next week then

Yeah, just saw that. Good for us I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
Nowhere near a yellow card offence that for Fellaini.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:35:36 PM
Wow yellow for that? Lucky he didn't get another for the ball throwing thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Maybe Saha should play in midfield? :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:36:39 PM
Why is Drenthe taking set pieces?  He is like Arteta ffs!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 14, 2012, 09:36:45 PM
Why is Drenthe taking corners? Donovan should be on them at all times.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Neville is so slow...
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 09:38:17 PM
2 footed challenge, both off the ground.  He won the ball, but with recent events, isnt that a red card?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
Not seen much of Baines so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
Liking Duffy again today, solid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
Yeah, he looks in command.

We need to take advantage! We're large and in charge, but haven't scored. Part of that definitely to do with Given though.

Villa are lacklustre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 09:42:34 PM
Agbonlahor has got a mouth liked a dog's anus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:42:40 PM
Bent and Agbonlahor are dangerous on the break though.  Agblonhor is killing Neville since he switched.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 09:42:51 PM
Random save by Howard!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 09:45:22 PM
Gibson hasnt scored yet....he's shit!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
VERY disappointed we're not ahead.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:45:38 PM
I wish Saha wouldn't try and take people on, he never succeeds!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 14, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
Fucking hell, how many times are they going to give us the ball and us give it right back to them?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 09:46:14 PM
Neville's a liability.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on January 14, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Are we still doing the predictable attack we do every game? I.e. forcing it out wide every time and crossing it to no avail?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Brownie on January 14, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
How's Gibson looking?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: ashwuk on January 14, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
saha needs to be taken off and not play again and not renew his contract, he really does not give a **** lazy t**t, couldnt even be arsed to appeal for the penalty... never thought id say it but get victor on at least he seems to give a ****
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 09:48:09 PM
We couldent wish for an easier 3 points this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
Definitely the better side but we need to start burying chances.  If we are going to put all these crosses in would be nice if someone attacked them!  Baines and Donovan should be on free kicks and corners and Neville needs help because he's getting killed.

Pleased by Duffy, Gibson, Donovan and Fellaini.  All having strong games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Danny on January 14, 2012, 09:48:24 PM
How's Gibson looking?

Cool and composed, nothing more really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 14, 2012, 09:49:12 PM
Playing alright here. Look a lot more threatening seen as no ones out of position. Look very comfortable with the ball. Thatss probably how shit Villa are though tbh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Trowel on January 14, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
Poor half from two teams who look like they've already given up on the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Risky on January 14, 2012, 09:50:17 PM
Decent performance so far, definitely we're the better team but the usual attacking deficiencies are there to be seen.

I'd like to see Anichebe on for Saha, as I think Villa's back 4 look a bit fragile and Anichebe could rough them up a bit and create some openings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:50:22 PM
How's Gibson looking?

Decent. Played a nice ball through to Cahill, would like to see him have a shot as nobody else in the middle is.

Bit of a Leon Osman mk2 perhaps, solid without being spectacular. Has some ability in him though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
Cool and composed, nothing more really.
he did hit an insane pass for cahill over the CBs
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 09:51:28 PM
What the hell is saha doing on the right wing keeps on giving the sodding ball away
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 09:51:57 PM
Gibson - has set the game alight, but gone about his work. Couple decent passes.not had the opportunity to have a dig yet.

I like the Fellaini Gibson midfield, seems to working.

We need to turn this pressure into goals, as in most of our games! Hopefully we'll push on in the second half!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 09:52:59 PM
I wouldn't say Saha has been lazy today, I think that's grossly unfair, things are not happening for him though and he is making some poor decisions.  One lovely lay off to Donovan aside.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 09:53:25 PM
Duffy looks good, lack of pace can be exposed tho
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 09:53:48 PM
Good half worry though about the 2nd. Need to get Saha off the field looks completely lacking in confidence. Would like to see Velios come on he seems to be our only striker with confidence and an instinct for a goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:54:05 PM
he did hit an insane pass for cahill over the CBs

I think that kind of comment is a result of how starved we have been of forward passes from the midfield.

It was a clever ball, but honestly one I'd expect a decent midfielder would be capable of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
dennis on second half i hope .
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
I wouldn't say Saha has been lazy today, I think that's grossly unfair, things are not happening for him though and he is making some poor decisions.  One lovely lay off to Donovan aside.

His attempt at meeting the cross from Donovan was just so lacking though. Just so half hearted.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 14, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
Duffy looks good, lack of pace can be exposed tho

He shit out of a header as well in case he clattered into Agbonglahor i think it was. Apart form that im liking the lad! Looks a good solid CB
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 14, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
Were doing ok but we need a goal cos Villa will have there spell of pressure this half!. We need to cut out the careless passing and be a bit sharper to the ball (Drenthe, Felli).

Duffy for me is doing really well without really being tested, he's doing the basics well and getting his head on most things, certainly doesn't look out of place and Gibson quietened towards the end of the half but he looks decent, always shows for the ball and the one thing we've lacked and he looks to do is play forward, penetrative passes.

Must admit though, we'll miss Donovan when he goes again ya know. Them forward runs he makes and his quality on the ball is what we lack desperately without him, no other player in are team really makes those runs beyond the front line like he does and its a great outlet when on the break.

Hopefully second half we'll get an early goal which will drop Villa heads and make the crowds mood worse and we'll kick on to a win. COYB!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on January 14, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
Very decent half - Saha and Cahill are never gonna score (he says hopefully tempting fate to prove him wrong) - get Vic and Denis on and lets knock that defence about a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
dennis on second half i hope .

I think it'd be Anichebe and Vellios for Saha and Cahill. We'll see though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Loverboy Blue on January 14, 2012, 09:59:54 PM
How's Gibson looking?

Steady. Great pass to Cahill early doors. Sitting deep at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:01:04 PM
should get 3 points easy today with the right subs on early enough
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
Very decent half - Saha and Cahill are never gonna score (he says hopefully tempting fate to prove him wrong) - get Vic and Denis on and lets knock that defence about a bit.

I agree - Saha and Cahill are never going to score in this game  :whistle:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:01:47 PM
should get 3 points easy today with the right subs on early enough

We don't do anything "easy"
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
We don't do anything "easy"
true  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
I think it'd be Anichebe and Vellios for Saha and Cahill. We'll see though.

I want that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:07:09 PM
Tale of two keepers so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 10:07:28 PM
Shay Given having yet another stormer against us!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:07:34 PM
Close, great cross from Baines.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Fcuking hell, Given again.  You can see whats going to happen here from a mile away
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:07:43 PM
So unlucky.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
Good play from Duffy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:09:32 PM
Duffy has been really, really good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
Here we go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
Saha off please!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: howard1334 on January 14, 2012, 10:12:42 PM
COULD
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:12:48 PM
Balls.

Always going to happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:12:50 PM
Fuck off Everton.  Another shite goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:13:12 PM
Fucking Typical!!!!!  
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:13:19 PM
Drenthe does do a lot of silly things.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:13:22 PM
That goals been coming since the start of the second half.

Reminds me a bit of the Bolton match so far this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
The difference having a Striker makes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:13:51 PM
another sucker goal ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on January 14, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Fuckoff Drenthe, caught in possesion again and look what happens,. 1-0 villa, now i know why moyes doesnt start him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
Saw this coming from a male off- same old everton. Drenthe lost the ball in our half.now i see why he doesnt start matches.

Moyes - time for positive subs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: howard1334 on January 14, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
could just see it fukinnnn coming
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 14, 2012, 10:14:23 PM
Pile of shite springs to mind!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Well playing for a draw now :(

That is the difference between a team with strikers and those without. Have some pressure and are able to convert.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Sigh.

We really havent played that bad today either, much improved over recent games.  But we should be well up against this team today, we have dominated and created enough moments to be comfortably ahead.

Now we are 1-0 down.

We need a spark.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:14:44 PM
Saw this coming from a male off- same old everton. Drenthe lost the ball in our half.now i see why he doesnt start matches.

Moyes - time for positive subs.

Have you seen the bench those are the only subs he can make!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:15:20 PM
CHANGE IT NOW MOYES!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:15:39 PM
We have to hope we get a penalty I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on January 14, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
I fucking despair....!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
crist weve switched off completly :headbang:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
MASSIVE question marks over Drenthe, isn't there?

I do hope we'll really go for them, because we've played relatively well today and should really have scored a few in the first half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:17:14 PM
Any semblance of confidence down the drain now. Chasing shadows.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Fynci on January 14, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
Why is the game still going on? Thought we were playing the golden goal rule today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:17:56 PM
Right decision to bring off Drenthe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:18:11 PM
Must have been one hell of a half time teamtalk by Moyes
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
Anichebe for Drenthe? Hmm...
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
Just don't understand how we've come out so poor in the second half.

Hope Big Vic can cause them some problems at least.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: kunal32 on January 14, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Irrespective of bringing in Gibson it's not a striker and that is something the money should have been used for!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
Tails up. We need something soon or we could get murdered here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
Agree, he seemed to have lost it a wee bit.

Still loads of time left, lads. Keep your hopes up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:18:47 PM


Villa fans sold Clattenburg that one
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:19:50 PM
At least Drenthe can create something wtf putting Anchebe on the right wing ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 14, 2012, 10:20:40 PM
were going one way here lads :tit:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:20:45 PM
What fucking foul? Awesome tackling = foul in 2012
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
At least Drenthe can create something wtf putting Anchebe on the right wing ffs

Drenthe has been largely responsible for why we are under pressure. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 10:21:19 PM
Heitinga is fucking awful

As for the sub Drenthe has been dreadful from the start AGAIN, right decision.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:24:26 PM
What fucking foul? Awesome tackling = foul in 2012
no foul but look who the freakin ref is
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:24:35 PM
Saha touch gives away a corner again.  Get the useless lazy twat off
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:24:37 PM
We are really struggling now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:24:58 PM
What is the opposite of holding the ball up? Cos that is what Saha is doing today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:25:10 PM
Drenthe has been largely responsible for why we are under pressure. 

And most of our creativity up front we r a goal down no?

Anyone want to please explain how Saha is still on the field?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:25:24 PM
Anichebe!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
FUCKING GET IN
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:25:46 PM
Great ball from Donovan!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:25:47 PM
Big Vic lovely!  Beautiful from Donovan!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 10:25:50 PM
that was class

well done donovan and anichebe
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: krakkokain on January 14, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Good Sub that :-[
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
Big Vic for the golden boot!

He's on fire, great finish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on January 14, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
I love you Victor (proper changed me mind like)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
Wow - could Vic end up being our top scorer this season?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on January 14, 2012, 10:26:38 PM
He's like  new signing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:26:49 PM
great ball and a great finish come on you fuckin blues
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:26:53 PM
The run and ball thru from Donovan, and the run and finish from Vic was first class.

Really really good goal.

Cant believe I typed that.
Title: Hero
Post by: Bily No Pace on January 14, 2012, 10:26:56 PM
Landon Donovan  :hail:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:27:04 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:27:06 PM
Oh no! VIc injured keeping the ball in?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on January 14, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
What a absolute lovely ball from Donovan, fucking beaut. He even made Anichebe look good!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:27:25 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cozzie on January 14, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
ARGH! dubvforngoabne

YES!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: ashwuk on January 14, 2012, 10:27:52 PM
ffs can we not catch a frigging break!! looks like vic badly injured now... christ can this season get any worse!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: howard1334 on January 14, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
Wow he is playing well then gets hurt while hustling....... WTF
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:28:06 PM
Shit, bad injury for Vic.

Karma is kicking him in the nuts for scoring a goal for Everton.

EDIT: Now hes back on his feet...hmm
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
What is the opposite of holding the ball up? Cos that is what Saha is doing today.
strac and vellios on now
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
For absolute fucks sake
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Cozzie on January 14, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
Thats fucking heart breaking for the lad.

2 goals on his return, and he goes and injures himself again

Unlucky victor, hope its not as bad as it seems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:28:47 PM
Gutted for Vic if he has got another bad injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on January 14, 2012, 10:28:54 PM
Story of vics career.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on January 14, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
vic looks in trouble here. 1 goal in 43 before this year, now 3 goals in 6. hope he's ok
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Hmm...staying on?

Maybe it is a new Vic?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:29:37 PM
I hope Vic is okay, he doesn't deserve to be injured!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: toffeeglas on January 14, 2012, 10:30:26 PM
Glad to see vic up again. Great finish and makes a change to see us play it through the middle
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on January 14, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
I hate Albrighton the one dimensional prick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:31:01 PM
There for the taking now lads!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:31:05 PM
And most of our creativity up front we r a goal down no?

Anyone want to please explain how Saha is still on the field?

I think you will find I have a right to smugness :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:31:12 PM
Wierd, looked certain to go off when he went down.

Just hope he isnt playing thru an injury here and do more damage by staying on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:32:22 PM
Glad to see vic up again. Great finish and makes a change to see us play it through the middle

It's amazing how being a bit more direct can work, especially as we don't seem to be suited to scoring from crosses with Cahill out of sorts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
saha needs to come off for the strac or maybe vellios hes shite
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:32:56 PM
ffs get saha off wot a waste of space he is :headbang:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:34:32 PM
What are we going to do without Donovans runs? Hes making it possible for forward momentum. Something we have missed since Peanuts left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 10:34:43 PM
I need to lose my stream more often!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on January 14, 2012, 10:35:17 PM
Commentator seems to think Keane is coming on for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on January 14, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
What are we going to do without Donovans runs? Hes making it possible for forward momentum. Something we have missed since Peanuts left.

By the time he leaves Vic will be fully fit and will be scoring at least 4 goals a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
Commentary is terrible on this. Very, very poor.

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
I need to lose my stream more often!

this
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:37:49 PM
I'd be amazed if Vellios or Straq weren't brought on. Saha just not providing much relief up top.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:37:56 PM
Fucks sake, here we go....
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
dont tell me moyes is leaving it again  untill 5 mins left for next subs  always playing for a bleeding draw  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:38:46 PM
Commentary is terrible on this. Very, very poor.



Yep, they keeping calling Villa players Everton players!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
Billy on Cahill coming off...
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:39:49 PM
Bily to score a 30 yarder please!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
awful sub
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: bluegrant on January 14, 2012, 10:40:23 PM
oh ffs look whos on  :headbang:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:40:38 PM
Good, solid game from Gibbo.  Quietly impressive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:40:39 PM
Scratch that, Billy for Gibson.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Goughie on January 14, 2012, 10:41:07 PM
Louis Saha was a finished man 2 years ago - now he needs to be put down. The guy is complete carbage and stinks the place out everytime he plays!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:41:12 PM
Gibson a bit short of the fitness for the 90 looks like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:42:25 PM
Everton have the momentum, then Neville gets the ball... :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
About time.  Lazy bastard
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Personally I think Moyes has got this spot on today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Straq gets 5 mins to do what Saha can't do in 580. Or whatever it's been since he last scored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 14, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Can a Villa player please, please cripple Saha and finish him off. Thank you.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:47:24 PM
Can a Villa player please, please cripple Saha and finish him off. Thank you.

Thats just mental talk
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Fynci on January 14, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Can a Villa player please, please cripple Saha and finish him off. Thank you.

Tit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:47:45 PM
Heitinga has had some poor patches but also some really important interceptions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Heitinga diving in the box?!? What was that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
Bit unfair from Heitinga there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 14, 2012, 10:49:37 PM
Its called sarcasm, yer pair of wankers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 14, 2012, 10:49:58 PM
Can a Villa player please, please cripple Saha and finish him off. Thank you.

disgusting from a fellow evertonian
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 14, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
fuck off cahill
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Amata on January 14, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Dreadful decision there from Cahill
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Tasslehoff on January 14, 2012, 10:51:20 PM
Happy with a draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
decent enough point
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on January 14, 2012, 10:51:41 PM
Its called sarcasm, yer pair of wankers.

No, it isn't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Fynci on January 14, 2012, 10:51:49 PM
Its called sarcasm, yer pair of wankers.

It's actually called "being a tit" you'll find.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:51:54 PM
Its called sarcasm, yer pair of wankers.

I don't think you know what sarcasm means.

It wasn't sarcasm, it was idiotic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:51:56 PM
Two sides lacking in confidence, ideas. Villa Park suffering from the same apathy as Goodison.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
A draw is pretty much the right result and fairly pleased with the performance.  A striker really is a massive deal to us right now and I am afraid to say Drenthe might not be the answer to all our prayers like we thought.  He is massively inconsistent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bally on January 14, 2012, 10:52:49 PM
if someone offered me 1-1 at the start I'd have tokk it
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 10:53:15 PM
The difference with a bit of movement from Donovan.  Just need a striker now.  Saha might as well not be on the pitch
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Derek on January 14, 2012, 10:53:19 PM
I am never "happy" with anything less than the 3 points.

Disappointed we couldn't win, especially given our 1st half dominance, but it's patently obvious we need a striker to score a goal or two.

Postives: Vic looks interested and is scoring on occasion. Gibson looks like a good acquisition. Duffy seems to be a player.

Negatives: We can't score goals. Saha seems WELL out of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Confucius on January 14, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
Remember the commentator saying that it looked offside when the throw-in came in. Quite sad actually

Good performance, inspired Given and a poor Clattenburg. Imagine that. We should of had a penalty and a red card for Collins. Was a certain goal and he blatantly tugs him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:53:36 PM

Good subs today. Thought Gibson made a good side. Cracking finish from Victor.

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: TheRam on January 14, 2012, 10:54:06 PM
A draw is pretty much the right result and fairly pleased with the performance.  A striker really is a massive deal to us right now and I am afraid to say Drenthe might not be the answer to all our prayers like we thought.  He is massively inconsistent.

Thomas Gravesen the 2nd
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
double post

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: keiko on January 14, 2012, 10:54:23 PM
donovan is man of match i think..
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Confucius on January 14, 2012, 10:55:13 PM
Oh, good performance from Gibson. Gives us a decent option ad always showing for the ball. Slotted in very well and has an eye for a pass. Looks good next to Fellaini. Really decent debut.

Anichebe looking really good right now. Power and pace and decent control. Poor Saha can't buy a touch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 10:55:23 PM
Thought we played ok, but agree we are badly missing a Bent.

We could easily have won that game, thankful we drew in the end.

Very disappointed with Drenthe today, but he also got in decent position's around midfield and wasn't being utilised. Think he was trying too hard when he did get the ball.

His subbing brought the goal, so GG Moyes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: nomorechang on January 14, 2012, 10:55:30 PM
If that doesn't demonstrate how much we are desperate for a striker then I don't know what will
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 14, 2012, 10:56:40 PM
disgusting from a fellow evertonian
Read above post, soft lad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
Postives...Duffy solid enough. Vic scoring...and almost as unbelievably not getting injured. Donovan had his best game so far I thought too. Gibson did alright but probably not 100% match ready.

Negatives...Saha, Neville. Drenthe doesn't look the same when he starts again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sprooly on January 14, 2012, 10:57:13 PM
shows the difference, our striker fails from 6 yards because of a tug, while theirs buries it
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Danny on January 14, 2012, 10:57:20 PM
I'm dissappointed but an away draw at Villa is alright it's more just we could really have done with winning that. Great pace from Anichebe today hopefully he can get some decent form.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: mickhazon on January 14, 2012, 10:57:27 PM
Saha and cahill surely do not warrant starts anymore, saha has been shit everygame i have watched for past two years.
Denis or velly should get a run in the team, big vic wont stay fit too.
As for the midfield gibson and felliani looks a good centre was impressed with them both today likewise duffy was solid
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 14, 2012, 10:58:10 PM
How are you doing up there on your high horses? Pricks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: matty1878 on January 14, 2012, 10:58:34 PM
thats a good point, considering all our problems we still need a STRIKER and a creative midfielder
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
If that doesn't demonstrate how much we are desperate for a striker then I don't know what will

Yup. If we had Bent we'd have walked that game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 10:59:08 PM
donovan is man of match i think..

Definitely.
Title: Beck to reality
Post by: Bily No Pace on January 14, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
Yup. If we had Beckford we'd have walked that game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on January 14, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
How are you doing up there on your high horses? Pricks.

Now it;s suddenly our fault that we're not tits like you. Nice.

You could've just said "Sorry, got a bit carried away." and we would've moved on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 11:03:25 PM
Saha needs to be on the bench.

He needs to think how much better he is than the main striker and how different life would be if his knees weren't made of egg shells. Then, when he gets his chance, he comes on and shows his class and scores you goals.

Having him start every game as the main striker leads of one of two things, being injured or needing a rest.

Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2012, 11:03:53 PM

Yup. If we had Beckford we'd have walked that game.

If we'd had any half decent striker we'd have walked that game.

Surely surely surely that has to be Saha's last chance. Give anyone else a run of 3 games and see if they can do better...please! Even if they hold the ball up, that'd be a start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: charlatan on January 14, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
Thought Cahill did ok in midfield, he put a shift in at least, which is all he can do at the moment, and hope a goal comes.  Saha was a disgrace tho (again)
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Risky on January 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Pleased that we managed to turn it round when to be honest I thought we were dead and buried as soon as we went a goal down.

Made up that Vic put that one away and hope he can push on both in terms of performance and fitness.  Drenthe wasn't great, but lets judge him a bit more if he's still playing like that after a run of games.  Hopefully the people who don't understand the difference in performance which is often inherent in coming on as a late sub as opposed to starting a game will have had food for thought with that though.

I thought we were ok pretty much everywhere today, bar Saha who really does need to be rested for his own sake as much as anything.  As unlikely to score as Cahill is at the moment though, I thought he played alright.

Thought Gibson was decent without doing anything spectacular and hope for more from him once he settles in and gets match fit, and I thought Duffy was good and looks like he has the potential to make it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Seaforth Blue on January 14, 2012, 11:06:36 PM
Now it;s suddenly our fault that we're not tits like you. Nice.

You could've just said "Sorry, got a bit carried away." and we would've moved on.
Haha, jesus lad. Ok, ok fairy muff maybe i should have put a ' :tongue:' there, but your actions and that of the other two planks was a wee bit out of order, you think?

Chill the fuck out.

Been coming on here for years, yet can believe you would actually think i was been serious. Now shurrup and giz a kiss.  :hug:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thom on January 14, 2012, 11:08:23 PM
A little disappointed that we didn't get the three points. They were there for the taking in the first half and, as always, we didn't make it count.

I feel as though Drenthe suffered from playing on the left. He wasn't able to cut inside like he does on the right so it wouldn't surprise me if it was more frustration than anything else when he kept losing the ball after trying to take people on.

Gibson, Donovan and Fellaini all impressed today. Duffy had a solid debut too. Saha and Neville were poor again. We're desperate for a goalscorer and Hibbert to come back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 11:09:34 PM
Thought Gibson played quiet well considering he signed yesterday.

Is Victor the answer? Because Saha isn't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on January 14, 2012, 11:10:18 PM

Please with Gibson for the money. But do we have enough left to get a striker and a centre half in?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
A little disappointed that we didn't get the three points. They were there for the taking in the first half and, as always, we didn't make it count.

I feel as though Drenthe suffered from playing on the left. He wasn't able to cut inside like he does on the right so it wouldn't surprise me if it was more frustration than anything else when he kept losing the ball after trying to take people on.

Gibson, Donovan and Fellaini all impressed today. Duffy had a solid debut too. Saha and Neville were poor again. We're desperate for a goalscorer and Hibbert to come back.

Yes.  I question whether Drenthe is fit for 90 minutes as well.  Neville was horribly exposed today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bally on January 14, 2012, 11:14:52 PM
Yes.  I question whether Drenthe is fit for 90 minutes as well.  Neville was horrible today.
fixed
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on January 14, 2012, 11:15:08 PM
Haha, jesus lad. Ok, ok fairy muff maybe i should have put a ' :tongue:' there, but your actions and that of the other two planks was a wee bit out of order, you think?

Chill the fuck out.

Been coming on here for years, yet can believe you would actually think i was been serious. Now shurrup and giz a kiss.  :hug:

What did you say?

Can't be arsed reading back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Risky on January 14, 2012, 11:17:33 PM
I didn't think Neville was that bad to be honest.  Obviously he's not the future and ideally wouldn't be in the team, but I thought he was alright today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 11:20:55 PM
What did you say?

Can't be arsed reading back.

He pleaded with the Villa players to please, please cripple Saha for good.

Fucking hilarious eh?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 14, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
He pleaded with the Villa players to please, please cripple Saha for good.

Fucking hilarious eh?
get over it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 11:22:20 PM
I didn't think Neville was that bad to be honest.  Obviously he's not the future and ideally wouldn't be in the team, but I thought he was alright today.

A few good tackles but once Agblonghor went left he got battered. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on January 14, 2012, 11:23:05 PM
Reasonable performance but felt like a brilliant performance compared to some recent games. Refreshing line up obviously partly forced by injury and was really disappointed that Saha and Cahill started again! There's stubborn and then there's DM.

For me:

Howard 6.5 - couple of iffy moments.
Neville 7 - RB best position but distribution still sideways.
Heitinga 7 - steady game
Duffy 7 - looked the part and deserves credit for stepping up to Prem
Baines 6.5 - steady but not as involved as usual and some poor set pieces.

Donovan 7.5 - good on the break with some mixed crossing
Felli 7 - very good first half but got sloppy in second and not as effective
Gibson 7 Good debut and actually looks to pass forward!
Drenthe 5.5 - conceeded possession regularly

Cahill 5.5 no impact again
Saha 6 - good effort in first half and should have had pen but not doing it overall

Anichebe 7.5 - Goal and looked a handful when he came on - wrap him in cotton wool


Bily / Denis - unfair to judge
DM 7 but would be higher if braver and qearlier subs used

COYB





Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Ross on January 14, 2012, 11:24:40 PM
I didn't think Neville was that bad to be honest.  Obviously he's not the future and ideally wouldn't be in the team, but I thought he was alright today.

He was adequate, not awful certainly not great. I think his influence on the team is very much on the wain. In the past we have always had the comfort that all though he wasn't the best footballler he was a good leader and could organise the team. Now it looks like others are influencing him and telling him what to do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: howard1334 on January 14, 2012, 11:25:24 PM
Donovan did well. Duffy looked solid, though he was a little at fault on the goal, got dragged out of position. Saha and Neville truly are done and dusted. We had no one who we could have played in place of Neville, but i do think Saha should only come off the bench (it is how he scored his one, well taken, goal this year).

Gibson, as has been mentioned, looked solid, but I do question whether it was wise to spend money on him when we so desperately need a striker and moyes said he wants to bring in a defender.   Does anyone know how much he cost?

I think its time for Bily to go... We have gueye, Mcfadden, Barkley, Donovan, Anichebe and Drenthe who can play left mid, and we just dont need him. He looks short of confidence, and I think we could still sell him for around 4 or 5 mill, enough to maybe get some striker in.

Overalll, a point away to villa is not to bad of a result, but I thought the game was for the taking, particularly first half, so typical as of late. Good to see anichbe put in a good shift and score a good goal. I will agree with everyone that anichibes strike rate over the past few years was poor, but people seem to forget he was often playing out wide... Well hopefully he can grow into a good striker, as we surely need one. Not sure if he is ready to start.

That is all
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sharpattack on January 14, 2012, 11:28:27 PM
Unfortunately I didn't see the game and will have to wait for the 2 minutes of highlights on MOTD. However, someone texted me that Clattencheat fucked us out of a penno? Any truth in this?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Risky on January 14, 2012, 11:28:41 PM
A few good tackles but once Agblonghor went left he got battered. 

Did he really get battered though, or did he just have a much tougher time?  I agree that he struggled but I don't think he was all that bad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
get over it.

Bluenose asked a question, I answered it. Nothing to get over.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
Unfortunately I didn't see the game and will have to wait for the 2 minutes of highlights on MOTD. However, someone texted me that Clattencheat fucked us out of a penno? Any truth in this?

Nah his line of sight was blocked, and it wasnt as clear cut as Francis was making out tbh, if anything Crappenburg gave us the benefit of the doubt for 90% of the decisions.

Hes still a cock though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 11:31:06 PM
Unfortunately I didn't see the game and will have to wait for the 2 minutes of highlights on MOTD. However, someone texted me that Clattencheat fucked us out of a penno? Any truth in this?

Seen them given hard for him to catch it though.  Saha was pulled back but didn't make much of it.  In theory that would have been a red card too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 14, 2012, 11:31:27 PM
Overall reasonably pleased today,for most of the game I thought we had the better of them. Gibson and Duffy decent debuts, Donovan getting better each game. Also good impact from Vic when he came on. Still we need to sort a new striker out as Saha was pretty anonymous again
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 14, 2012, 11:32:29 PM
clattenberg had a good game, the dubious decisions against us mainly were given by the linesman!

don't blame him for missing the penalty either... Saha still should have scored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2012, 11:33:14 PM
Seen them given hard for him to catch it though.  Saha was pulled back but didn't make much of it.  In theory that would have been a red card too.

And Saha still got a full head on the ball.  He just misjudged the angle....and the length.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Silas on January 14, 2012, 11:34:43 PM
Did he really get battered though, or did he just have a much tougher time?  I agree that he struggled but I don't think he was all that bad.

Every time Agbonlahor got the ball, he just went straight past him with little concern
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: sam of the south on January 14, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
I find it interesting that only now, when we have a ton of injuries, that we have a starting eleven with players in their specialist positions. It was refreshing, and resulted in our most comfortable performance for a while. Having said that, Saha is a gutless wonder. If Moyes had the same patience with any of our other strikers, they could play themselves into form. Instead they come in, are somewhat understandably overawed and immediately get dropped. Vic was great, Gibson slotted in well and I thought Duffy did brilliantly. It's also good to have Landon back, sadly soon he will be gone. We really need to perservere with Drenthe; He is only just returning to the fold, and he really can do stuff that none of our other players can do. My biggest fear is that the Shite will snap him up and he will be dynamite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: DuncanFerguson81 on January 14, 2012, 11:55:36 PM
All well with Moyes. He did a great job in ten years and I am truly grateful. Now, I understand that playing Neville Hibbert holder as it is injured and no other option, but I can not understand why Saha plays almost the whole game and it does Vellios a minute ... what happened? A Greek had any unsportsmanlike behavior?

Saha is not the same, this lack of speed, incredible eradication goals, does not dominate the ball well ... what worries me about Moyes, is that having 3 options (Anichebe, Vellios and Stracqua) continue to insist with the French ...

On the other hand, much of Donovan, a good debut of Gibson and Duffy were regular, well in aerial balls, but when the ball struck his foot made difficult
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Polledreng on January 15, 2012, 12:04:23 AM
All well with Moyes. He did a great job in ten years and I am truly grateful. Now, I understand that playing Neville Hibbert holder as it is injured and no other option, but I can not understand why Saha plays almost the whole game and it does Vellios a minute ... what happened? A Greek had any unsportsmanlike behavior?

Saha is not the same, this lack of speed, incredible eradication goals, does not dominate the ball well ... what worries me about Moyes, is that having 3 options (Anichebe, Vellios and Stracqua) continue to insist with the French ...

On the other hand, much of Donovan, a good debut of Gibson and Duffy were regular, well in aerial balls, but when the ball struck his foot made difficult
spot on - and welcome
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on January 15, 2012, 12:11:43 AM
I wouldn't put it past us to nick a 1-0 here:

                     Howard

Neville    Heitinga     Duffy      Baines

Donovan Gibson       Felli       Drenthe
                       Cahill
                       Saha

Maybe dare I say a Cahill or Saha goal....

It's a bullseye on the team prediction but sadly wishful thinking on the score and scorers - great effort though!  :hail:
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Shogun on January 15, 2012, 12:23:10 AM
unlock the forum?
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: DuncanFerguson81 on January 15, 2012, 12:24:59 AM
spot on - and welcome

Thanks... a hug from Rosario, Argentina
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: fast lane on January 15, 2012, 12:45:35 AM
Another improved performance, something that was becoming visible at the Spurs.

In recent times we could have killed off the opposition.
Something we were still incapable of today, despite being the better team.

Villa were poor, someone said recently that they are a shit team.
Well having players like Bent, Agbonlahor and Ireland surely makes you better than that.
They don't have belief in themselves at all, and Villa Park was quieter than Goodison during the last home game.
It was good to hear our visiting fans out-sing the home fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: KingdingalingNL on January 15, 2012, 12:48:23 AM

Thought our midfield looked balanced today with the addition of Gibson! Duffy should get more of a look in at centre back in future as he did well. If only we could get the attack sorted as we did well until it was up to having a striker posing a threat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on January 15, 2012, 12:58:36 AM
Drenthe was shit, and at fault for their goal, he needs to attempt the simple route and stop trying to do a McFadden (in his first stay at the club) n take every man on!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 15, 2012, 01:16:12 AM
All well with Moyes. He did a great job in ten years and I am truly grateful. Now, I understand that playing Neville Hibbert holder as it is injured and no other option, but I can not understand why Saha plays almost the whole game and it does Vellios a minute ... what happened? A Greek had any unsportsmanlike behavior?

Saha is not the same, this lack of speed, incredible eradication goals, does not dominate the ball well ... what worries me about Moyes, is that having 3 options (Anichebe, Vellios and Stracqua) continue to insist with the French ...

On the other hand, much of Donovan, a good debut of Gibson and Duffy were regular, well in aerial balls, but when the ball struck his foot made difficult

Vellios is still injured mate. Im sure if he was fit now he'd be getting game time!
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: blueToffee on January 15, 2012, 01:31:08 AM
Vellios is still injured mate. Im sure if he was fit now he'd be getting game time!

He was on the bench today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: cantoffee on January 15, 2012, 01:50:18 AM
Missed the second half. About the result I expected although after the first half I was hoping we'd go on and win it.

Happy Anichebe scored again. Can't wait until he stays fit next year and leads the league in scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 15, 2012, 04:03:01 AM
Reasonable performance but felt like a brilliant performance compared to some recent games. Refreshing line up obviously partly forced by injury and was really disappointed that Saha and Cahill started again! There's stubborn and then there's DM.

For me:

Howard 6.5 - couple of iffy moments.
Neville 7 - RB best position but distribution still sideways.
Heitinga 7 - steady game
Duffy 7 - looked the part and deserves credit for stepping up to Prem
Baines 6.5 - steady but not as involved as usual and some poor set pieces.

Donovan 7.5 - good on the break with some mixed crossing
Felli 7 - very good first half but got sloppy in second and not as effective
Gibson 7 Good debut and actually looks to pass forward!
Drenthe 5.5 - conceded possession regularly

Cahill 5.5 no impact again
Saha 6 - good effort in first half and should have had pen but not doing it overall

Anichebe 7.5 - Goal and looked a handful when he came on - wrap him in cotton wool


Bily / Denis - unfair to judge
DM 7 but would be higher if braver and earlier subs used

COYB








Don't agree with you giving Saha a better rating than Cahill. Alright, Cahill wasn't brilliant but he put more of a shift in than Saha and got more involved with the play today, i thought Cahill did well considering he's been poor of late.

And im not sure about Neville getting a 7 either. He did ok but for a player of his age and experience, he still makes silly fouls in pointless areas, and he wont give up trying to chip it down the line to no one.

Thought Duffy showed up well and didn't look out of place and Gibson looked good aswell to say he's been with us a day. Atleast he looks to play forward, penetrative passes which we've lacked for a long time, and he always shows for the ball and gets in space.

Donovan was definitely MOTM!. Never stopped running, worked hard and showed his quality on the ball and were going to miss him when he goes!. His runs beyond the striker, always looking to get in behind and stretch teams is what were going to miss most, we don't have a single player who will do that apart from him and it's what helps us out alot in getting at teams when trying to attack and it's a shame we wont ever be able to sign him permanently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa V Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on January 15, 2012, 06:22:10 AM

Don't agree with you giving Saha a better rating than Cahill. Alright, Cahill wasn't brilliant but he put more of a shift in than Saha and got more involved with the play today, i thought Cahill did well considering he's been poor of late.

And im not sure about Neville getting a 7 either. He did ok but for a player of his age and experience, he still makes silly fouls in pointless areas, and he wont give up trying to chip it down the line to no one.

Thought Duffy showed up well and didn't look out of place and Gibson looked good aswell to say he's been with us a day. Atleast he looks to play forward, penetrative passes which we've lacked for a long time, and he always shows for the ball and gets in space.

Donovan was definitely MOTM!. Never stopped running, worked hard and showed his quality on the ball and were going to miss him when he goes!. His runs beyond the striker, always looking to get in behind and stretch teams is what were going to miss most, we don't have a single player who will do that apart from him and it's what helps us out alot in getting at teams when trying to attack and it's a shame we wont ever be able to sign him permanently.


Just watched highlights again on MOTD and Cahill did a few good things so maybe harsh I'm probably guilty of what others are doing with Neville and rating him not on the day but based on recent form. I see Neville has been getting a load of 4's on the other thread which is totally unfair - ok 7 might be pushing it but 4 - come on! Agree with your other points - Donovan definitely creates a lot with his runs and outstanding pass today for the goal.