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Title: Match Ratings
Post by: Silas on February 06, 2010, 08:51:40 PM
Howard 4 - hesitant throughout and at fault for the goal.

Neville 4 - poor defensively, hoofing a lot and offering little.

Heitinga 5 - not the dominant display I expected.

Distin 6 - some important tackles, worked harder than some.

Baines 6 - tried hard and some good touches.  

Pienaar 4 - produced very little and getting sent off put the icing on that.

Fellaini 5 - didn't take control at any point.  We will miss him if injured though.

Osman 4 - offered virtually nothing.

Donovan 7 - tried hard, looked interested and made good runs.  Wasn't used enough.

Cahill 6 - ran around and unlucky not to score.  At least showed passion.

Saha 5 - looked knackered throughout.

Subs:

Arteta 6 - passing was generally fine but with with no movement from anyone around him he had nowhere to go.  Poor set pieces.

Anichebe 5 - full of energy but missing sharpness and should have pulled ball across earlier.

Yak 6 - trying to make a difference despite the fact balls were getting hoofed at him.  Good shot and movement.  Leading the line well.

Manager rating

Moyes 6 - waited too long to bring on subs but for me they were the right ones.  I put the result more down to the players who simply did not perform than him.  We should have passed it round this Liverpool team, instead we hit a Liverpool player consistently and let them off.

  
Title: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
Howard- 5. Commanded his box well enough but was criminal on the goal conceded.
Neville- 5. No creativity from his side at all. Kept playing it into Donovan with a man up his arse where he couldn't do anything. Predictable and stunted our rhythm.
Heitinga- 7. Did well at centre-half and didn't really looked troubled at all. Deserves a 7 just for squaring up to Steven G.
Distin- 5. Liking him less and less if I'm honest. That N'Gog chance where Osman slid in on him in the first half was down to Distin not putting the ball out and opting to hit it across the pitch.
Baines- 5. Didn't do much really bar the free kick.
Donovan- 7. One of the brighter lights.
Fellaini- 6. Did well when he was on but not long enough to judge. I think I'm right in saying Felli' stands where Kuyt did on the goal?
Osman- 5. Not good enough.
Pienaar- 4. Awful.
Cahill- 6. Tried, showed endeavour, but should have scored.
Saha- 6. Tried and worked but never had any service as per usual. Clearly the best striker on the books.

Arteta- 8. Our man of the match, shame when he had the ball the others just looked at him as if he was going to magic-wand a goal.
Anichebe- 5. Should have scored.
Yakubu- 6. Looks fucked, one good shot.

Both Anichebe and Yakubu never had the service, mind.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: blob on February 06, 2010, 08:53:26 PM
fuck all for the lot of em   :eh:
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: sharpattack on February 06, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Not sure anyone deserved more than a 6. Yakubu looks finished, Anichebe is dire and Cahill and Pienaar did nowt
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Fellaini25 on February 06, 2010, 08:54:25 PM
2 for everyone except Donovan and Heitinga, oh and 1 for Neville.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: blargins on February 06, 2010, 08:54:27 PM
Very generous there Rhimbo.

Apart from Johnny and Donovan, they really can come out of this match with heads held high.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Fellaini's Afro on February 06, 2010, 08:54:58 PM
Howard gets a fucking 1 from me, pathetic effort on that corner, i feel embarrassed for him.

I agree with the rest of the ratings.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Connavar on February 06, 2010, 08:55:35 PM
Distin and Baines were fucking shite!
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Chris on February 06, 2010, 08:55:43 PM
I like Donovan, he's good enough for us but the hype over him is fucking stupid. He's by no means the talent some people make him out to be.

Saha and Distin were rubbish
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 08:56:40 PM
Very generous there Rhimbo.

Apart from Johnny and Donovan, they really can come out of this match with heads held high.

It depends where your normal mark is I guess. I would have given Fellaini a 10/9 against City, some would have given him an eight. My ratings are always a little bit jacked up I guess.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blob on February 06, 2010, 08:57:13 PM
same as on the other thread. fuck all for everybody.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Fellaini's Afro on February 06, 2010, 08:57:35 PM
Very generous there Rhimbo.

Apart from Johnny and Donovan, they really can come out of this match with heads held high.

This
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Fellaini25 on February 06, 2010, 08:57:59 PM
I like Donovan, he's good enough for us but the hype over him is fucking stupid. He's by no means the talent some people make him out to be.

Saha and Distin were rubbish

Donovan was one of the only players who actually created things today and looked interested.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: blueToffee on February 06, 2010, 08:58:23 PM
I don't know what gives Arteta the 8 and MOM? What did he do? I can't think of any telling passes, runs and if anything what does spring to mind is poor set piece(s). I still think it was too early for him, we were in the game while Fellaini was on, I don't think I could say the same after. There may have been 5 mins in the 2nd half but that was about it.

Frankly I think the only people that deserve any credit would be Cahill for effort, Heitinga was ok, and for what he had to work with I thought Yak did alright and arguably had the best shot on goal all game (which is kind of depressing too).
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 08:58:46 PM
I like Donovan, he's good enough for us but the hype over him is fucking stupid. He's by no means the talent some people make him out to be.

Saha and Distin were rubbish

Donovan was arguably our best player today mate. His work-rate is brilliant and that run where he put Insua on toast you wouldn't see from any other Everton player. In terms of quality, he's no better than most in our team, but he offers something different.

And I honestly don't get what this Saha things about. I don't know what more he could've done today with the service he was given. Just shit, pointless long balls hoofed up to him and even if he wins it, Cahill seldom gets in front of him. What more can you ask of the lad? He was tracking back, sliding in and putting himself about...

As for Distin, agreed shit. I'd prefer Sendy' and Yobo to him now. Doesn't look a very good buy at that price. Looking more like a flop if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: gemine69 on February 06, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
Howard- 5. Commanded his box well enough but was criminal on the goal conceded.
Neville- 5. No creativity from his side at all. Kept playing it into Donovan with a man up his arse where he couldn't do anything. Predictable and stunted our rhythm.
Heitinga- 7. Did well at centre-half and didn't really looked troubled at all. Deserves a 7 just for squaring up to Steven G.
Distin- 5. Liking him less and less if I'm honest. That N'Gog chance where Osman slid in on him in the first half was down to Distin not putting the ball out and opting to hit it across the pitch.
Baines- 5. Didn't do much really bar the free kick.
Donovan- 7. One of the brighter lights.
Fellaini- 6. Did well when he was on but not long enough to judge. I think I'm right in saying Felli' stands where Kuyt did on the goal?
Osman- 5. Not good enough.
Pienaar- 4. Awful.
Cahill- 6. Tried, showed endeavour, but should have scored.
Saha- 6. Tried and worked but never had any service as per usual. Clearly the best striker on the books.

Arteta- 8. Our man of the match, shame when he had the ball the others just looked at him as if he was going to magic-wand a goal.
Anichebe- 5. Should have scored.
Yakubu- 6. Looks fucked, one good shot.

Both Anichebe and Yakubu never had the service, mind.

Can't really argue with any of this.  I was always uncomfortable watching Distin.  Again, questions will be asked as to why so many of our players fail to perform in the big matches.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Chris on February 06, 2010, 09:01:36 PM
Donovan was arguably our best player today mate. His work-rate is brilliant and that run where he put Insua on toast you wouldn't see from any other Everton player. In terms of quality, he's no better than most in our team, but he offers something different.

And I honestly don't get what this Saha things about. I don't know what more he could've done today with the service he was given. Just shit, pointless long balls hoofed up to him and even if he wins it, Cahill seldom gets in front of him. What more can you ask of the lad? He was tracking back, sliding in and putting himself about...

As for Distin, agreed shit. I'd prefer Sendy' and Yobo to him now. Doesn't look a very good buy at that price. Looking more like a flop if I'm honest.

Distin screams panic buy, fuck knows how he's a professional footballer without the ability to kick at all with his weaker foot.

I wasn't getting at Donovan. I know he was one of the only ones arsed today. He's never gonna be anything more than a decent player though for us.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
Distin screams panic buy, fuck knows how he's a professional footballer without the ability to kick at all with his weaker foot.

I wasn't getting at Donovan. I know he was one of the only ones arsed today. He's never gonna be anything more than a decent player though for us.

I agree with that. I'd like Donovan here permanently though because he is, as you say, a decent player and a decent outlet. Can't see him being a colossal player for us but he'll do a job, if we get him, that is. He seems to fit the Everton ethos though.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: sharpattack on February 06, 2010, 09:06:13 PM
8 for Arteta? Are you taking the piss? All I noticed was him pulling out of tackles.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: evertonblueboys on February 06, 2010, 09:06:19 PM
2 for everyone except Donovan and Heitinga, oh and 1 for Neville.

it was nevilles fucking fault for the goal.. let gerrard have as much room as he wanted to put the ball in the box which led to the corner.. where he was the wrong side of kuyt .. fucking terrible
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Endless, Nameless on February 06, 2010, 09:08:18 PM
Howard 5 - Worst game in recent memory for him.

Neville 4 - Slow. Stupidly slow. He kept getting the ball and on the rare ocassion he made a forward pass, it took him 10 seconds too long to make it.

Heitinga 6 - Bar the one early incident with Ngog, Heitinga has a good game.

Distin 6 - Didn't really put a foot wrong.

Baines 6 - Lots of effort, good defensively and a decent free kick shot.

Pienaar 4 - I only just realised he got sent off... Fuck... Awful game and now we're without him in the hardest month of football in years.

Fellaini 5 - Didn't get much of a chance, hope he's okay.

Osman 5 - Didn't realy notice him doing much.

Donovan 7 - Very positive and that run late on was magical.

Cahill 6 - Lots of effort and almost scored.

Saha 5 - Did not look like a player who just signed a new deal...

Subs:

Arteta 6 - He played exactly like I thought he would considering he was not match-ready -- not as good as he is.

Anichebe 5 - Fucking idiotic hesitance cost us the last chance to grab something from the game.

Yak 6 - Looked bored and tired, but a great shot and some good hold up play.

Manager rating

Moyes 4 - None of the subs made any sense to me. Bily? Coleman? We needed someone to inspire us. An unfit Arteta, lazy Yakubu and unfit and never inspiring Anichebe were nonsensical subs.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 09:12:50 PM
Howard 5 - Worst game in recent memory for him.

Neville 4 - Slow. Stupidly slow. He kept getting the ball and on the rare ocassion he made a forward pass, it took him 10 seconds too long to make it.

Heitinga 6 - Bar the one early incident with Ngog, Heitinga has a good game.

Distin 6 - Didn't really put a foot wrong.

Baines 6 - Lots of effort, good defensively and a decent free kick shot.

Pienaar 4 - I only just realised he got sent off... Fuck... Awful game and now we're without him in the hardest month of football in years.

Fellaini 5 - Didn't get much of a chance, hope he's okay.

Osman 5 - Didn't realy notice him doing much.

Donovan 7 - Very positive and that run late on was magical.

Cahill 6 - Lots of effort and almost scored.

Saha 5 - Did not look like a player who just signed a new deal...

Subs:

Arteta 6 - He played exactly like I thought he would considering he was not match-ready -- not as good as he is.

Anichebe 5 - Fucking idiotic hesitance cost us the last chance to grab something from the game.

Yak 6 - Looked bored and tired, but a great shot and some good hold up play.

Manager rating

Moyes 4 - None of the subs made any sense to me. Bily? Coleman? We needed someone to inspire us. An unfit Arteta, lazy Yakubu and unfit and never inspiring Anichebe were nonsensical subs.

Can't agree with them mate. I just don't get why people are so hard on Saha after games like that. He tried hard enough but he isn't superman, christ!
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Endless, Nameless on February 06, 2010, 09:17:56 PM
Can't agree with them mate. I just don't get why people are so hard on Saha after games like that. He tried hard enough but he isn't superman, christ!

I thought Distin was ok. He did better than I expected, considering he's had so many injuries.

Saha played ok, but I stand by what I said. He didn't look happy or energetic, like a player who has just signed a new contract should.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
I thought Distin was ok. He did better than I expected, considering he's had so many injuries.

Saha played ok, but I stand by what I said. He didn't look happy or energetic, like a player who has just signed a new contract should.

He did more than most on that field today with very little service. And he clapped the fans on the way off.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Endless, Nameless on February 06, 2010, 09:24:24 PM
He did more than most on that field today with very little service. And he clapped the fans on the way off.

I wasn't insulting him off the pitch. And maybe he did more than most, but that isn't saying anything. I gave him a 5, deal with it. Why does he warrant a 6? He did nothing particularly well.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 09:25:38 PM
I wasn't insulting him off the pitch. And maybe he did more than most, but that isn't saying anything. I gave him a 5, deal with it. Why does he warrant a 6? He did nothing particularly well.

Fair enough, no need to get pissy. Okay, he deserves a 5. Why does Distin deserve a 6 then? That's what I don't get. He was bullied by David NGog today and completely ran ragged.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Verm on February 06, 2010, 09:28:58 PM
Howard- 5. Commanded his box well enough but was criminal on the goal conceded.
Neville- 6. Not very effective but showed a little more effort than a lot of us.
Heitinga- 7. Did well at centre-half and didn't really looked troubled at all. Deserves a 7 just for squaring up to Steven G.
Distin- 5. Was absolutely shitting himself for 90 mins, why Senderos didn't play I'll never know.
Baines- 5. Didn't do much really bar the free kick.
Donovan- 7. One of the brighter lights.
Fellaini- 6. Did well when he was on but not long enough to judge. I think I'm right in saying Felli' stands where Kuyt did on the goal?
Osman- 5. Not good enough.
Pienaar- 5. Awful.
Cahill- 6. Tried, showed endeavour, but should have scored.
Saha- 5. Lazy cunt, doesn't make much effort to win a ball and gives it away too easy. He has his wage now, that's him done for the season.

Arteta- 7. Didn't do too much but wasn't really his fault. Thouhgt he was the wrong choice for the sub in the first place.
Anichebe- 5. Should have scored.
Yakubu- 5. A much heavier, slightly Younger, Louis Saha.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Endless, Nameless on February 06, 2010, 09:29:22 PM
Fair enough, no need to get pissy. Okay, he deserves a 5. Why does Distin deserve a 6 then? That's what I don't get. He was bullied by David NGog today and completely ran ragged.

Had he not been coming back from injury I would have given him a 5. I think he deserves a 6 as I didn't notice anything particularly bad, and he's just come straight back into the team again.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: DanDan on February 06, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
Distin was shocking!! Constantly hoofing the ball! Got lucky in the 1st half when he did his usual slice on the edge of our area. I blame him for their goal as they scored from the 2nd corner but the 1st corner shouldnt even have come about in that sequence of the game as he should never have let Ngog get anywhere near the goal to have that shot. Give Senderos a game until Jags is back and then put Johnny at RB and let Distin sit in the stands
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: gwells on February 06, 2010, 09:34:26 PM
HOWARD 3, NEVILLE 4, HEITINGA 7, DISTIN 4, BAINES 4, DONOVAN 7, FELLIANI 7, CAHILL 6, OSMAN 3, PIENAAR  4, SAHA 3 ARTETA 6 MOYES 5 REF 4. GAME BIG FAT ZERO
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: cantoffee on February 06, 2010, 09:35:31 PM
Saha may have tried but he created nothing, literally, zero shots. At least the yak tested Reina, and people are being harsh on Anichebe for his chance. Yes he should've shot but that turn was more than Saha created all game.

Can't blame it all on Saha of course, the rest of the team was pretty terrible. And 8 for Arteta is laughable, he passed sideways all game(like everyone else), something you, Rhimbo, have been slatting Osman for recently.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: ally2 on February 06, 2010, 09:40:15 PM
We were OK in the first half I thought.  But the second half was nothing I think Liverpool asked if we could break them down, and we couldn't.  I think we were outwitted.  There were some individuals who weren't great but that wasn't the point.

Howard 5 - concentration makes the diffference between good and great players
Osman 5 - didn't show enough for the ball and treated it like a hot potato even when there was space to run in to
Anichebe 5 - when we needed magic he was strong but unable to make good quick decisions and lacked awareness
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 06, 2010, 09:43:50 PM
Saha may have tried but he created nothing, literally, zero shots. At least the yak tested Reina, and people are being harsh on Anichebe for his chance. Yes he should've shot but that turn was more than Saha created all game.

Can't blame it all on Saha of course, the rest of the team was pretty terrible. And 8 for Arteta is laughable, he passed sideways all game(like everyone else), something you, Rhimbo, have been slatting Osman for recently.

Arteta carried the ball, he threw himself in to tackles. He showed heart and desire and almost pushed players into moving for him today. He got a foot on the ball and tried to run the show. For my money, Osman didn't do anything of that nature. As soon as Arteta come on, Osman just kept passing 6 or 7 yards to him, as if to say "Do it all yourself, Mikel".

It's not that simple, either. Mikel's passing range is far superior to that of Osman's, as is his vision and his passing variation. He hits some high, some long, some fast, some slow. Arteta's sideway passes are sometimes 10 yards, sometimes 30. Osman's are always the same telegraphed passes. And more often than not, his put a full back or a winger into trouble because they are marked. Arteta seldom gives the ball away, Osman does.

As for Saha, you can say that if you want. I think what we saw today was an unfit striker who was thrown in to play because of his experience and the other strikers not being match-ready. He ran himself into the ground pretty much and was fucked after 60 minutes. I don't call that being lazy, I call that age and not being match-fit.

Both Yakubu's and Anichebe's shots came when Liverpool were sitting back protecting their lead. Saha didn't really have that luxury against their defence for that long. That meant we had more of a foot on the ball and could carry it further forward. In the first half, Saha made intelligent runs (the Heitinga free kick along the floor, Osman playing him in when Reina charged him down, Cahill's long ball up where he was narrowly offside). If Saha would have been in Anichebe's position, he would have buried it, and that's the difference.

I think you're just treating things too black-and-white.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: cantoffee on February 06, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
Arteta carried the ball, he threw himself in to tackles. He showed heart and desire and almost pushed players into moving for him today. He got a foot on the ball and tried to run the show. For my money, Osman didn't do anything of that nature. As soon as Arteta come on, Osman just kept passing 6 or 7 yards to him, as if to say "Do it all yourself, Mikel".

It's not that simple, either. Mikel's passing range is far superior to that of Osman's, as is his vision and his passing variation. He hits some high, some long, some fast, some slow. Arteta's sideway passes are sometimes 10 yards, sometimes 30. Osman's are always the same telegraphed passes. And more often than not, his put a full back or a winger into trouble because they are marked. Arteta seldom gives the ball away, Osman does.

As for Saha, you can say that if you want. I think what we saw today was an unfit striker who was thrown in to play because of his experience and the other strikers not being match-ready. He ran himself into the ground pretty much and was fucked after 60 minutes. I don't call that being lazy, I call that age and not being match-fit.

Both Yakubu's and Anichebe's shots came when Liverpool were sitting back protecting their lead. Saha didn't really have that luxury against their defence for that long. That meant we had more of a foot on the ball and could carry it further forward. In the first half, Saha made intelligent runs (the Heitinga free kick along the floor, Osman playing him in when Reina charged him down, Cahill's long ball up where he was narrowly offside). If Saha would have been in Anichebe's position, he would have buried it, and that's the difference.

I think you're just treating things too black-and-white.

That's just not true, I saw Arteta pull out of tackles on more than one occasion today. Not that I blame him really but what you've put there makes it sound like he put himself about and dominated the game, he clearly didn't.

I don't blame Arteta for not creating more because he's only just come back but he was not an 8, not in a million years, he was average, played fairly simple passes, and nothing incisive. I'm also not saying Osman was good, by no means, he was garbage as well, but you've really overshot his effect on the game. He did see a lot of the ball, but nothing happened, and yes that was due in part to poor movement but he did not have a good game.

As for Saha, you're right he may have buried that chance, but he didn't create it. He didn't get behind the defence at all today, when there was more room for him than there was for Yak or Anichebe. He hassled defenders and challenged for the ball, but he didn't link up play or make good runs, and he didn't turn and run at defenders(which is one of his best attributes). Up front, Cahill created a couple of chances, challenged for the ball, and link up well with the midfielders(maybe not well but at least it happened a couple times).

Both Cahill and Anichebe probably should've scored, but at least they were able to get into goal scoring positions, which Saha did not do.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: everton-4-ever on February 06, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
howard -  should have ollected for the goal or clumped dick shite
neville   - 4  hibbert replacement?same performance but uglier face
heitinga - 6 tried nd cant be blamed for moving on the summer
distan -5 typical performance from unfit player
baines -4england? heres hoping terry and bridge bury the hatchet
osman - 1 spineless and inept release him now moyes
fellani - 5 missed in the second half
pienaar 4- worst game in blue?
donavon-5 1 run doesnt get you a win
cahill-5 effort but offerd nothing
saha- 5 tired and injurd

anchovi 3-  a pointless squady
yakubu-   3 finished
arteta- 5 fed to wolves by moyes
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Thom on February 06, 2010, 11:26:39 PM
Howard- 5
Neville- 4
Heitinga- 6
Distin- 5
Baines- 5
Donovan- 6
Fellaini- 6
Osman- 5
Pienaar- 5
Cahill- 6
Saha- 5
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Ridge on February 07, 2010, 12:56:18 AM
8 for Arteta? Are you taking the piss? All I noticed was him pulling out of tackles.
Strange that
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 07, 2010, 01:01:26 AM
That's just not true, I saw Arteta pull out of tackles on more than one occasion today. Not that I blame him really but what you've put there makes it sound like he put himself about and dominated the game, he clearly didn't.

I don't blame Arteta for not creating more because he's only just come back but he was not an 8, not in a million years, he was average, played fairly simple passes, and nothing incisive. I'm also not saying Osman was good, by no means, he was garbage as well, but you've really overshot his effect on the game. He did see a lot of the ball, but nothing happened, and yes that was due in part to poor movement but he did not have a good game.

As for Saha, you're right he may have buried that chance, but he didn't create it. He didn't get behind the defence at all today, when there was more room for him than there was for Yak or Anichebe. He hassled defenders and challenged for the ball, but he didn't link up play or make good runs, and he didn't turn and run at defenders(which is one of his best attributes). Up front, Cahill created a couple of chances, challenged for the ball, and link up well with the midfielders(maybe not well but at least it happened a couple times).

Both Cahill and Anichebe probably should've scored, but at least they were able to get into goal scoring positions, which Saha did not do.

He challenged and got in their faces, considering that he's just come back from a year-long injury, you'd forgive him for being a little tentative. He wasn't today. He was getting stuck in, which is more than I can say for most.

It's all subjective with ratings, so drop Arteta down to a 7 and drop a few others a point down if it makes you sleep easy.

The Liverpool that Anichebe and Yak played was vastly different to that of the one Saha played.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 07, 2010, 01:29:38 AM
Howard- 5. Commanded his box well enough but was criminal on the goal conceded.
Neville- 5. No creativity from his side at all. Kept playing it into Donovan with a man up his arse where he couldn't do anything. Predictable and stunted our rhythm.
Heitinga- 7. Did well at centre-half and didn't really looked troubled at all. Deserves a 7 just for squaring up to Steven G.
Distin- 5. Liking him less and less if I'm honest. That N'Gog chance where Osman slid in on him in the first half was down to Distin not putting the ball out and opting to hit it across the pitch.
Baines- 5. Didn't do much really bar the free kick.
Donovan- 7. One of the brighter lights.
Fellaini- 6. Did well when he was on but not long enough to judge. I think I'm right in saying Felli' stands where Kuyt did on the goal?
Osman- 5. Not good enough.
Pienaar- 4. Awful.
Cahill- 6. Tried, showed endeavour, but should have scored.
Saha- 6. Tried and worked but never had any service as per usual. Clearly the best striker on the books.

Arteta- 8. Our man of the match, shame when he had the ball the others just looked at him as if he was going to magic-wand a goal.
Anichebe- 5. Should have scored.
Yakubu- 6. Looks fucked, one good shot.

Both Anichebe and Yakubu never had the service, mind.

I missed this incident. Can anyone explain?
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blue for you on February 07, 2010, 01:37:17 AM
look we don't have the ball's to beat the redshite's in anfield, reading can win there.
we had them down to ten men no ladyboy torres and still can't bet them.
it would piss you off
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Ridge on February 07, 2010, 01:40:42 AM
look we don't have the ball's to beat the redshite's in anfield, reading can win there.
we had them down to ten men no ladyboy torres and still can't bet them.
it would piss you off
They are excuses to be pissed off, but only excuses...
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blue for you on February 07, 2010, 01:44:34 AM
yes ten fucking years of excuses, i won't mind if they were a good side
they are shite and we can't beat them
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 07, 2010, 01:50:41 AM
yes ten fucking years of excuses, i won't mind if they were a good side
they are shite and we can't beat them

They can't be that shite. As they would say, the table doesn't lie. Underestimation can be a swine.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blue for you on February 07, 2010, 02:00:37 AM
they are how far are they off the top sunderland, reading, beat them not world class clubs are they
fucking wolves drew with them
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 07, 2010, 02:04:56 AM
they are how far are they off the top sunderland, reading, beat them not world class clubs are they
fucking wolves drew with them

But Burnley beat us, and many other poorer teams.

I'm gutted too mate, because it was the derby, but we can't lose sense of reality, they are in fact a good team, they're 4th in the table!!
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blue for you on February 07, 2010, 02:13:33 AM
good my bollocks look at the money they spend in the last few years, 20 million for robbie keane
17 million for glen johnson , i think in was 8 or 9 million for dossena thats 40 million spend on shite.
thats one thing about alex at utd  he spends big but he fuck's wins leagues
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: blargins on February 07, 2010, 02:18:12 AM
The shites signings may not be the greatest, but they are still good enough to again do a double over us.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 07, 2010, 02:19:25 AM
good my bollocks look at the money they spend in the last few years, 20 million for robbie keane
17 million for glen johnson , i think in was 8 or 9 million for dossena thats 40 million spend on shite.
thats one thing about alex at utd  he spends big but he fuck's wins leagues

I don't support them mate, you don't have to try and convince me that they haven't achieved their potential financially, I already know that. But what I'm saying is true.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: charlatan on February 07, 2010, 05:14:12 AM
They can't be that shite. As they would say, the table doesn't lie. Underestimation can be a swine.
Yes indeed.

The worst Redshite side in living memory against our supposed strongest squad in 20 years.

We haven't won there now in 12 years, and probably won't have a better chance in the next 12.

Utter shite.  Total bottlers.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Bally on February 07, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
The whole fucking lot of them get a zero rating for being a bunch of spineless cunts
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: ToxtethBlue on February 07, 2010, 09:38:21 PM
Heitinga, Donovan and Arteta are the only players who come out of the game with any real credit. Donovan and Heitinga had a go and Arteta was the only one who had a clue what he was doing in possession. Sadly for him whenever he got the ball everyone would run towards the box and not look to link up with him or give him outlets.

And he did break them down, Anichebe just fucked up the chance he had when he was through on goal.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: .Rimbo. on February 07, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
Heitinga, Donovan and Arteta are the only players who come out of the game with any real credit. Donovan and Heitinga had a go and Arteta was the only one who had a clue what he was doing in possession. Sadly for him whenever he got the ball everyone would run towards the box and not look to link up with him or give him outlets.

And he did break them down, Anichebe just fucked up the chance he had when he was through on goal.

I agree with pretty much all of that. Arteta was one of the few, along with Heitinga and maybe Donovan, that didn't go hiding scared behind men and not showing for the ball, which is more than I can say for most.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: Silas on February 07, 2010, 10:24:47 PM
I agree with pretty much all of that. Arteta was one of the few, along with Heitinga and maybe Donovan, that didn't go hiding scared behind men and not showing for the ball, which is more than I can say for most.

I would include Cahill too, he showed desire and was unlucky not to score.  He gave more of a Captain's performance than Neville yesterday.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: sicstyle on February 08, 2010, 03:09:18 AM
It was Heitinga that gave up the corner that lead to their goal. A lot of the match he looked to be fairly in control but he needed to play for a throw.
Title: Re: Match Ratings
Post by: GLewis on February 08, 2010, 03:17:51 AM
It's not the worst L'pool side in living memory.

The one before Houllier came and the Souness ones were worse.

But that's not the point, we're much closer to them than at any time in 20 years and our players simply didn't perform.

Even if you take the negative Moyes line, they didn't do that very well either.