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Title: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2012, 07:14:29 AM
Got a feeling we are going to win this, last team to win there was us anyway weren't it?

1-0 to the blues (probably blacks that day actually)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 02:12:25 PM
Would love Mirallas back for this one.

                   Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Distin  Oviedo

Mirallas Gibson Osman Pienaar
                   Fellaini
                   Jelavic

Obv Baines as well would be a dream scenario, but hopefully B-Ry will do the biz. Moyes could go with Heitinga in the middle and Distin at left back though, good thing about that is that we will have a ready made scapegoat!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: McMoyes on November 29, 2012, 02:16:59 PM
Theres no chance we'll get anything here.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
Theres no chance we'll get anything here.

Well City arent playing that well, and we are a bit of a bogey team of theirs. Our last win there was in December as well if I remember correctly, and we were in much worse form at the time...so you never know
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 29, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
3-0 city
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on November 29, 2012, 03:49:23 PM
4-2 us. We bound to score plenty soon. They have a shaky defence and Fellaini will want to dominate Kompany. Jelavic will bury some half chance and  Jags will score too.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 29, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
if we score 4 at their place, i will eat my hat and then i will eat yours
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on November 29, 2012, 05:08:42 PM
really not looking forward to this one.

rearguard action. narrow defeat.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
Well City arent playing that well, and we are a bit of a bogey team of theirs. Our last win there was in December as well if I remember correctly, and we were in much worse form at the time...so you never know

We are one of their bogey teams. That had me thinking though....It seems to me we are a bogey team to a few squads. Sunderland specifically comes to mind.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2012, 07:08:03 PM
Theres no chance we'll get anything here.

You've probably said the same thing everytime we've played there.

3-1 to us
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: april on November 29, 2012, 07:10:52 PM
We're all assuming that with Baines out Oviedo will fill in, and I think he'd a smashing player. But don't be surprised if Moyes plays Distin at LB with Jags and Heitinga in the middle. I know JH hasn't been playing well but DM likes to accomodate his main players, even if it means some playing out of position.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on November 29, 2012, 07:18:18 PM
if we score 4 at their place, i will eat my hat and then i will eat yours

Scored 4 at OT last season.

I think we'll be lucky to get a draw there this time. I feel our bogeyness is about to be picked.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2012, 07:39:26 PM
I really dont know what to think here, My heart says 1 0 to us, my head says 2 0 to them
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on November 29, 2012, 07:41:17 PM
Well City arent playing that well, and we are a bit of a bogey team of theirs. Our last win there was in December as well if I remember correctly, and we were in much worse form at the time...so you never know

Actually, I think they beat us 2-0 there last season. So they've broken our bogeyness.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Golden Vision on November 29, 2012, 08:35:41 PM
                              Howard

Hibbert           Jagielka      Heitinga      Distin


Mirallas (pass) Osman        Gibson       Oviedo

                                   Fellaini

                  (to) Jelavic

2-1 to city

Good display by the blues but city edge through in the end. Everton slip down to 8th with just one win in 9 but after this game we will become really strong again and march back into top 4 in January.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on November 29, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
3-1 city i cant see us getting any points
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on November 29, 2012, 10:41:34 PM
2-2 Draw.

Will be hard, if we get Mirallas back I could see us winning though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on November 29, 2012, 10:51:29 PM
same as last year, defend well for most of the game, then they finally break us and score, expect us to create next to nothing, unless mirallas is back
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 29, 2012, 10:59:03 PM
I expect us to dominate parts of the game to be honest but overall a fairly even match resulting in a draw......again. 2-2
I just hope that if we do start having to get defensive in the second that we stick a couple if bodies up to hold the ball up. Drives me insane when we sit back too much and invite our then inevitable demise.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on November 30, 2012, 01:17:23 AM
Have no idea on this one, depends who we have available and which Everton and City turns up
Title: Re: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on November 30, 2012, 01:58:27 AM
I really dont know what to think here, My heart says 1 0 to us, my head says 2 0 to them

I'm feeling the same Jimmy, lad. Just hope we've got enough heart to rule our heads on the day!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on November 30, 2012, 03:39:45 AM
2-0 city.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: edbootle on November 30, 2012, 04:09:26 AM
The only positive is that Barkley will once again get splinters. He must like that bench.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on November 30, 2012, 04:36:35 AM
1-0 fellaini, were everton we'll beat who we want EFC EFC EFC EFC EFC EFC EFC despise them horrible manc twats aswell
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on November 30, 2012, 05:26:12 AM
Was watching ssn earlier today and they said Mirallas was training but Baines obv absent so gutted Baines is out but a big possibility that Mirallas will be fit!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 30, 2012, 05:30:06 AM
City undefeated, not losing at home. Everton playing well not finishing off teams, quick start going off the boil.

Only one winner here folks and that is us.

They hate playing us, we will beat them, it won't be pretty but it will be efficient.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on November 30, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
No result would suprise me here... Could be anything either way IMO.

Been looking at this game as a loss everytime I go through fixtures so anything else I will class as a bonus and hopefully if we can get something can be classed as a point or two pulled back that we have lost in previous weeks.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on November 30, 2012, 02:25:51 PM
We always seem to confuse Mancini when we play Citteh, he never knows how to play us and I can see us scoring early, getting another in the 2nd half when they try too hard to get one back then they'll get a late one which will have us panicking in the last 5-10 minutes
Title: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
I really can't see beyond a defeat here , but my prediction league predicts 2-2 because I'll never predict defeat for us.

sent from the assassins guild
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on November 30, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
2-2 draw Fellaini and Pienaar, me mate Marty Mac told me!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 30, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Official Everton‏@Everton

 Moyes also said he doesn't expect Mirallas, Anichebe or Coleman to return for the trip to Eastlands.
 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on November 30, 2012, 09:07:48 PM
David Moyes says he will give Leighton Baines 'every chance' in his race to be fit for Saturday's game at Manchester City.

If Baines doesnt make it I hope Moyes puts in Oviedo and leaves the CB pairing of Jags-Distin alone after playing well vs Arsenal.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on November 30, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
Doubt that he will play Oviedo at LB against City; I would imagine it will be Distin out there with Heitinga & Jags in the middle.

This is a difficult game and Moyes will probably want to go with a settled back 4 of players comfortable with each other as opposed to trying something new
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on November 30, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
Official Everton‏@Everton

 Moyes also said he doesn't expect Mirallas, Anichebe or Coleman to return for the trip to Eastlands.
 
i like an itchy bear but what is the point in him being here as hes always injured
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 12:05:52 AM
We're going to get stuffed. Lawro has predicted an Everton win!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2012, 12:08:38 AM
We're going to get stuffed. Lawro has predicted an Everton win!

I predicted an Everton win, but for a pundit to do that is very left field.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 01, 2012, 12:10:11 AM
Lawro has predicted we win quite a bit this year.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
I was very surprised he went for it especially as City are unbeaten this year.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunleerblue on December 01, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
call me old fashioned but im putting a bet on an everton win1
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on December 01, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
My heart says we'll be back in the top 4 before the end of January.

My head says we're gonna get badly bummed in December.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on December 01, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
call me old fashioned but im putting a bet on an everton win1

You're very old fashioned.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on December 01, 2012, 04:24:51 PM
4-2 us. We bound to score plenty soon. They have a shaky defence and Fellaini will want to dominate Kompany. Jelavic will bury some half chance and  Jags will score too.

I think you're sitting on the fence a bit and should try and be a bit more specific mate.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunleerblue on December 01, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
jimbo and jet set you are cool
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DJ1994 on December 01, 2012, 05:36:38 PM
are we in black or blue
Title: Re: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 01, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
are we in black or blue

White

Sent via carrier pigeon
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DJ1994 on December 01, 2012, 05:41:36 PM
can not give a genuine answer?
Title: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 01, 2012, 05:44:45 PM
I'd say based on precedence, we'll we wearing all Blue.

Sent from the Nightclub in Royston Drenthe's Basement.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
I'd say based on precedence, we'll we wearing all Blue.

Sent from the Nightclub in Royston Drenthe's Basement.
We will be in black, don't man city play in blue & white?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
We will be in black, don't man city play in blue & white?

No. all blue
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2012, 06:34:13 PM
No. all blue
sure?

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63334000/jpg/_63334273_63334272.jpg)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 01, 2012, 07:52:45 PM
we usually do the all blue thing away at Man City. Our 2-0 win there in 2009/2010 being the exception when we wore that black and pink effort

perhaps it would be a good luck omen to go back to black, Amy Winehouse style. Phresh
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 01, 2012, 08:05:15 PM
Mirallas out again then.

Not ideal but at least Baines is playing.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 01, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
unchanged from weds. not liking the look of our bench.lets hope we dont need them
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 01, 2012, 08:10:28 PM
sure?

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63334000/jpg/_63334273_63334272.jpg)
Very

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Marouane+Fellaini+Manchester+City+v+Everton+zhNCTNCIDUCl.jpg)


That said, we'll probably wear the black one cause we probably did something stupid and sign a deal with Nike for us to wear it or something...
Title: Re: RE: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 08:14:48 PM
First eleven strong should be a good game

Sent from Pseudopolis Yard
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 01, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
Everton XI to face Man City:
Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Naismith, Pienaar, Osman, Gibson, Fellaini, Jelavic.

Subs:
Mucha, Oviedo, Heitinga, Hitzlsperger, Barkley, Vellios, Gueye


Hope Baines isn't being rushed back...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 08:23:08 PM
Not a Naismith hater, I know we have a small squad and I hope he proves me wrong today, but what does he have to do before he gets dropped?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 08:23:17 PM
Strong side that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on December 01, 2012, 08:26:41 PM
Not a Naismith hater, I know we have a small squad and I hope he proves me wrong today, but what does he have to do before he gets dropped?

When mirallas gets back fit
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
Not a Naismith hater, I know we have a small squad and I hope he proves me wrong today, but what does he have to do before he gets dropped?

Have a right sided player available to take his place?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on December 01, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
Everton XI to face Man City:
Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Naismith, Pienaar, Osman, Gibson, Fellaini, Jelavic.

Subs:
Mucha, Oviedo, Heitinga, Hitzlsperger, Barkley, Vellios, Gueye


Hope Baines isn't being rushed back...




With the exception of Mirallas not being there, that's not far off the best we could hope for Imo. Good point about Baines. would hate for him to be out for weeks. Cringe!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
Have a right sided player available to take his place?

Perhaps it's the wrong game to play him but we have that young lad Kennedy, I know he is all potential at the moment but after some of Naismith's displays he can't be any worse. I would also consider Coleman there when he is fit (Not because he is great I just don't see Naismith offering us anything there). You could also try Hitz in the middle and put Ossie on the right for a bit (again not his best position but at the moment he can't be much worse than Naismith). I did acknowledge we had a small squad but it seems no matter how bad Naismith plays on the right he gets a game. I personally would like to see him supporting Jela up front more but the limitations of our squad make that unrealistic I guess.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 08:51:22 PM
We have a good record against Shiteh but given the respective squad depth we shouldn't be too unhappy if we lose and maybe accept that like last season a point here is a good one . That said there is nothing wrong with a positive substitution on 70 mins in Barkley rather than Oviedo and Velios getting 15 to 20 mins rather than the duration of extra time . COYB .
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Perhaps it's the wrong game to play him but we have that young lad Kennedy, I know he is all potential at the moment but after some of Naismith's displays he can't be any worse. I would also consider Coleman there when he is fit (Not because he is great I just don't see Naismith offering us anything there). You could also try Hitz in the middle and put Ossie on the right for a bit (again not his best position but at the moment he can't be much worse than Naismith). I did acknowledge we had a small squad but it seems no matter how bad Naismith plays on the right he gets a game. I personally would like to see him supporting Jela up front more but the limitations of our squad make that unrealistic I guess.

If Coleman was fit he would probably be in, trying to start Kennedy would be madness, Osman is the only option but that's a desperate move.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 08:56:04 PM
If Coleman was fit he would probably be in, trying to start Kennedy would be madness, Osman is the only option but that's a desperate move.

I personally don't see it any of those options that I listed as being considerably worse than Naismith, it's not even as if he offers a lot of defensive cover either. It's just a case of square pegs round holes whoever we play there due to our lack of squad depth.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on December 01, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
so naismith who hasnt overally been that bad if you watch the games, has got us a few goals is getting slated! give it a rest and back each and every player who puts the royal blue on and runs out onto that pitch otherwise im sure city could do with another few fans!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 08:59:26 PM
I just don't think he is a right mid, that's not slating him, I'm sure most players wouldn't play at their best if played out of position.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:01:44 PM
wait for it....
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
Hoorah! We made it out of the first minute without conceding.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on December 01, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
I personally don't see it any of those options that I listed as being considerably worse than Naismith, it's not even as if he offers a lot of defensive cover either. It's just a case of square pegs round holes whoever we play there due to our lack of squad depth.

Have you seen Kennedy play? That's a genuine question, I just can't ever get my head round people coming out with the "he can't be any worse" argument when they know nothing about the player they are suggesting. Osman on the right wouldn't be any better either and Naismith probably carries a better goal threat.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on December 01, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
i agree i see him as more just in behind the striker a cahill type player, it showed when he went off on weds night jelavic was putting crosses into the box and there was noone there i belive he would have been,

but on another point anyone know any streams?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: buededw1 on December 01, 2012, 09:04:06 PM
at the moment Naismith's just up to it, i hope he comes good. but on current form how can he be better than Barkley.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:04:31 PM
Can someone get Naismith and Osman in a strength program to work on their shot power?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Gibbo controlled that beautifully
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 09:04:53 PM
Have you seen Kennedy play? That's a genuine question, I just can't ever get my head round people coming out with the "he can't be any worse" argument when they know nothing about the player they are suggesting. Osman on the right wouldn't be any better either and Naismith probably carries a better goal threat.

As with any young player it's from word of mouth but if he is good enough to be on the bench he must be doing something right. Anyway game is on now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:05:43 PM
Kolarov is hurt already. Looks like an early injury for City.
Title: Re: RE: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:07:38 PM
Playing well but indecisive

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
Seriously, does Osman have any power in his shots?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: 18efc78 on December 01, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
Very very bright start but why are so many of our players absolute lightweights when shooting from distance? Already we've had shots barely trickle wide from Naismith and Osman..
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on December 01, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
As with any young player it's from word of mouth but if he is good enough to be on the bench he must be doing something right. Anyway game is on now.

He was on the bench due to injuries and suspension.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
Seriously, does Osman have any power in his shots?

Leon Osman amazing strike v AS Larissa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77cCoLLW_LE#)

Go home
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
I think we all can agree Timmy did well there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:10:23 PM
Some take from Howard that, bad form or not he's indestructible
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 01, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
Great keeping from Howard.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
Leon Osman amazing strike v AS Larissa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77cCoLLW_LE#)

Go home

Too bad that was years ago mate. Doesn't have anything to do with his power now...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:11:45 PM
Playing well but indecisive

Sent from Pseudopolis Yard

Everton's calling card this season when dealing with balls in the final third
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 09:12:22 PM
Are the long balls as common as 5Live Sports Xtra is making out?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:12:43 PM
Leon Osman amazing strike v AS Larissa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77cCoLLW_LE#)

Go home
I am home! Osman kicks the ball like a little girl
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
Too bad that was years ago mate. Doesn't have anything to do with his power now...

His shooting is the part of his game that has remained the same throughout his career, he scores some, he misses lots. He should score more, he always should have, but to say his shooting technique has changed is incorrect.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 09:16:06 PM
Kolarov is hurt already. Looks like an early injury for City.

Nice to see gibson trying through balls.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:17:17 PM
His shooting is the part of his game that has remained the same throughout his career, he scores some, he misses lots. He should score more, he always should have, but to say his shooting technique has changed is incorrect.

You just made the largest blanket statement ever. You could insert almost every footballer's name into that and it would be accurate.

PS I said NOTHING about technique. Only power my friend, and yes that has changed.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
Nice football all round again but again end product lacking.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
We're brilliant until that last pass.


Also, how is that a foul on Pienaar?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:20:05 PM
Probert's a bellend
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:21:18 PM
Howard really is a dodgy keeper
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 09:21:37 PM
That's the Howard we know- punching a simple ball to catch keeping the pressure on us.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
You just made the largest blanket statement ever. You could insert almost every footballer's name into that and it would be accurate.

PS I said NOTHING about technique. Only power my friend, and yes that has changed.
Correct. Some people say the most stupid things to defend the indefensible
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2012, 09:24:29 PM
You just made the largest blanket statement ever. You could insert almost every footballer's name into that and it would be accurate.

PS I said NOTHING about technique. Only power my friend, and yes that has changed.

Doesn't the power of the shot come from the technique??

The statement more than applies to Osman, his shooting has always been one of the poorer parts of his game, someone asked if he had power, I showed power. Guarantee he could still hit a ball like that.


Eitherway, from wherever you're sitting, his shooting has remained the same.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
Far too slow in possession here.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
Correct. Some people say the most stupid things to defend the indefensible

Technique = power, moron. He can still hit a ball, just not too often.

I wouldn't expect you to remember any of his shots though, weren't you the one that was adamant Hibbert had never had a shot on target?

People say the stupidest things to push their agenda.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
We look like Arsenal in the final 1/3.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: buededw1 on December 01, 2012, 09:29:24 PM
why cant jelavic just play a simple pass, always trying back heels or through balls.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:30:35 PM
Doesn't the power of the shot come from the technique??

The statement more than applies to Osman, his shooting has always been one of the poorer parts of his game, someone asked if he had power, I showed power. Guarantee he could still hit a ball like that.


Eitherway, from wherever you're sitting, his shooting has remained the same.



Haha. True you did show power. Unfortunately the power you showed was from 2007. Ossie has obviously aged 5 years since then and power doesn't traditionally increase on the backside of 30.

I will give you this though...You can increase power with good technique, but that doesn't mean you can't have one without the other.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on December 01, 2012, 09:30:58 PM
usual problems. outplaying the opposition. no end product.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:31:18 PM
Technique = power, moron. He can still hit a ball, just not too often.

I wouldn't expect you to remember any of his shots though, weren't you the one that was adamant Hibbert had never had a shot on target?

People say the stupidest things to push their agenda.
Hibbert had a shot on target? What year was that?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
On a positive note Naismith doesn't seem to be giving it away so cheaply today  ;)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on December 01, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
This has been a rubbish match,

Gibbo is looking classy though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
FELLI!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on December 01, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
fucking get in!!! fellaini :)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
Brilliant from felli and baines. Who needs naismith, osman and jelavic to contribute  :P
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
Get In! Felli assissts himself
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
GET IN!


My prediction was correct! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 09:34:23 PM
 :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
Brilliant from felli and baines. Who needs naismith, osman and jelavic to contribute  :P

Couldn't agree with you more.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:34:32 PM
Fellaini is just a machine right now
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on December 01, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
FFS, managed to knock my stream off just before we scored.

Fellaini has been an absolute monster goals wise this year.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2012, 09:34:58 PM
Get in, well deserved aswell. Unbelievable save at first from Hart though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Hibbert had a shot on target? What year was that?

You're falling into his blanke statement trap....He wants you to go watch every match Hibbo has played in to find the obscure shot he may or may not be referring to.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 09:35:55 PM
Deserved that, been the better team.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:36:07 PM
Fellaini is just a machine right now

Love watching his price tag go up and up and up
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
right need a second come on you blues
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Ossie got knackered.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 09:39:05 PM
Can we keep a clean sheet... now that is a real test.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 09:39:22 PM
From the BBC:
"GOAL - Man City 0-1 Everton - Marouane Fellaini (33 mins)

The player of the Premier League season so far? My admiration for the big Belgian went up a notch today when I saw in an interview that he drives around in a Corsa, and Marouane Fellaini has now produced another big goal. Leighton Baines crosses in from the left, it flicks off the head of Vincent Kompany and while Joe Hart does brilliantly to save Fellaini's header, the midfielder is able to stab in the rebound."

The voting for player of the year is usually around Jan, that is why you usually see people who had very good first halves of the season winning it. Just thinking now, do you think Felli has a chance? I can't think of many more outstanding performers in our league this season.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Nice save from Howard- think hibbert could have done much better.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
Joke - we never get fuck all.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on December 01, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
foolish from felli
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
Cock.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2012, 09:44:49 PM
Tevez's first goal against us I think. Looked away from the stream for a second and came back to that  >:(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 01, 2012, 09:45:32 PM
Was that a foul? Yes.
Was Lescott pulling on Osman? Yes.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 09:45:51 PM
have played shite since scoring and yet again no clean sheet
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
Why don't we get soft penalties like that?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 01, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
great tactics score and then park the bus..........brilliant
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
The good and the bad of the 'Fro  :-\
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 09:46:41 PM
With the million camera angles they have, you'd think they would give a real replay, not a shot from 30m away. Looked foolish from Fellaini, but can't be sure with only one angle.


Fuck.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: johnstinkpants on December 01, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
Ref has been an absolute joke, doing everything he can to help City in this game
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
Lescott was unlucky there... no way that's a card, maybe not even a foul.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:48:40 PM
I have no problem with a ref giving a penalty for that but the chances are he'll see the same thing again at the other end and give nothing
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 09:48:43 PM
He could have given 12 other fouls just the same. I don't think Fellaini's foul was much worse than say Dzeko's pull on him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Fern on December 01, 2012, 09:48:56 PM
great tactics score and then park the bus..........brilliant

You are a cock, they pressed them how did the team park the bus? No sense at all.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 09:49:01 PM
We are so weak down the right- need coleman and mirallas back.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Lescott was unlucky there... no way that's a card, maybe not even a foul.

Yeah he definately got the ball.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
Lescott was unlucky there... no way that's a card, maybe not even a foul.

agreed.

hope he gets sent off in the second half. the ref owes s that at least.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 09:49:33 PM
soft penalty once again fail to hold on to a lead need 3 to win this
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
Pienaar should be moved out to the right and Oviedo on the left. That Naismith really is a poor footballer
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
We need a bit more from Jelavic.  He's out of form in front of goal but he needs to do better when the ball is played into him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:50:58 PM
My cable went out for a few moments for unknown reasons and saw 1-1. Did Felli actually foul Dzeko?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 01, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
You are a cock, they pressed them how did the team park the bus? No sense at all.

fuck me harsh comment....you dont think we sat back deeper and deeper within minutes of scoring?? fucking twat!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 09:51:43 PM
is so frustrating at the moment nothing seems to be going for us
Title: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bally on December 01, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
I thought dzeko had hold of fellaini TBH and he dragged his arm as he fell , we will never know

sent from the assassins guild
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 09:52:21 PM
is so frustrating at the moment nothing seems to be going for us

Typically that is the adversity we thrive on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2012, 09:53:06 PM
had that been the other way round, we wouldn't have gotten a penalty.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 01, 2012, 09:54:48 PM
It's probably a penalty, but that sort of thing happens about 15 times a game.

For it to go against us, and Fellaini in particular who is often the victim of this sort of thing, is really frustrating.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Risky on December 01, 2012, 09:55:23 PM
Fucking typical that the one time you see one of those given that it's against us.

We're well in this game though, let's hope we keep our act together after half time for a change.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thom on December 01, 2012, 09:55:29 PM
Ironic that pundits say that referees have to give penalties for shirt pulling in the box, and that City get given one exactly like that after going behind. You'll see that happening 7/8 times in each area at corners this weekend and I'll bet the only penalty given will be that one.

Same old from us. Playing reasonably well but unable to play the final pass with accuracy and/or creativity. I hope we don't come back out with the mentality that we have for the last few weeks. Keep playing like we have been doing and we should get the three points as, penalty aside, they've done nothing to test Howard.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 09:57:26 PM
Anyone got new boots for Jelavic?  Never seen a player slip over so much! 

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Risky on December 01, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
Ironic that pundits say that referees have to give penalties for shirt pulling in the box, and that City get given one exactly like that after going behind. You'll see that happening 7/8 times in each area at corners this weekend and I'll bet the only penalty given will be that one.

Same old from us. Playing reasonably well but unable to play the final pass with accuracy and/or creativity. I hope we don't come back out with the mentality that we have for the last few weeks. Keep playing like we have been doing and we should get the three points as, penalty aside, they've done nothing to test Howard.

Apart from the saves he's had to make  lolol
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
Pienaar should be moved out to the right and Oviedo on the left. That Naismith really is a poor footballer

I agree. I think naismith has had plenty of opportunity to establish himself, but Oviedo looks a much better player.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on December 01, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
I hope we don't try and hold on for the point. Maicon is terrible and Baines and Pienaar will get plenty of joy down that side.

It really is good to have Gibson back on The team.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Pienaar and Baines together is worth more than the benefit we'd get from moving Pienaar to the right IMO. The only right footed player who could go there would be Osman with Hitz moving to the middle or perhaps if you felt like taking a chance...Barkley.

I don't think we have many options at all.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
is so frustrating at the moment nothing seems to be going for us

Had no luck all season except the last min of the derby. We deserve loads of pens ourselves.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 10:08:52 PM
Standing off them now and letting them come a us, we all know what happens when we do that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 10:09:37 PM
Naismith is beyond shit.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:09:54 PM
Ugh....
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:10:07 PM
Our shots this game have looked quite poor.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Manchester City have never come from behind to beat Everton in a Premier League match, but they could do with all three points today. They make a lively start to the second half but Everton are adept at soaking up pressure.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
Never been one for conspiracy theories but I am really starting to wonder the way we keep getting shafted by refs this season...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:12:17 PM
What does Moyes say to the team at HT these days? Very poor start.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 10:14:09 PM
He has to take Naismith off
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
Started the 2nd half like Moyes is playing for a point.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 10:14:39 PM
He has to take Naismith off
yeah probably in the 90 minute mate
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
City are dirty cunts. Tevez and Kompany especially.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: keverton1971 on December 01, 2012, 10:15:29 PM
everytime we break they fookin hack us!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Time to give Vellios a chance otherwise whats the point in having him here...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 10:16:59 PM
I hate the way we sit back . 45 mins waiting for the opposition to score shreds my fucking nerves .
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on December 01, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
He has to take Naismith off
im for that he been rubbish
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 01, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
diving bastards
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: johnstinkpants on December 01, 2012, 10:17:15 PM
Naismith hasn't made a worthwhile contribution yet. Time to change it please Moyes
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:19:36 PM
If he's playing the soak up the pressure game, he needs to put Oviedo on to give us some pace to break.

See Spurs have scored, even 5th is looking a long way off at present. Need to beat those next week for sure.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: buededw1 on December 01, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
how the fuck is Naismith still on that pitch
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 10:20:57 PM
It's not sticking with anyone in their half of the field  >:(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 10:21:06 PM
Hanging on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
Think ill stop watching now as I can see where this is heading.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
Howard's punching needs work.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
Why can't Tony Hibbert do that? :)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
I feel like everyone is just biding time until Citeh gets the game winner
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Danny on December 01, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
We need something different now and unfortunately we don't have it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:22:52 PM
Never been one for conspiracy theories but I am really starting to wonder the way we keep getting shafted by refs this season...

You're starting to sound like a red
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on December 01, 2012, 10:22:59 PM
ffs whens moyes going to make some changes  :headbang:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 10:24:08 PM
Jelavic needs to relieve some of the pressure.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: chris350 on December 01, 2012, 10:24:23 PM
Yet another case of second half syndrome from Everton.

City will win this.  :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 10:24:25 PM
All City now
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on December 01, 2012, 10:24:36 PM
I feel like everyone is just biding time until Citeh gets the game winner

this, unfortunately :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: johnstinkpants on December 01, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
Desperately need to make a change. We're inviting the inevitable here
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 10:25:21 PM
Don't want to slag Naismith off but what is he doing or going to do in the last 20 that Barkley couldn't ?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
I feel like everyone is just biding time until Citeh gets the game winner

Including Moyes whos obviously told them to try and see it out so he can use his "bringing a knife to a gunfight" line. Like the Norwich game, we can all see whats coming bar him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: johnstinkpants on December 01, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Shameful that there was no pressure on Hart there
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on December 01, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
get ovideo on and vellios please nod
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
I hope we sucker punch them.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:27:02 PM
I hope we sucker punch them.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: scoop on December 01, 2012, 10:27:16 PM
how the fuck is Naismith still on that pitch

he makes my worst everton 11
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Bull shit yellow there
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
He didn't even fucking touch him then!!.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:27:51 PM
You're starting to sound like a red

Fuck off you cheeky cunt - just frustrated by refs every other game.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 01, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
He didn't touch him!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
Don't want to slag Naismith off but what is he doing or going to do in the last 20 that Barkley couldn't ?

Im not one of the "get Barkley on" brigade but your right.  Barkley may lose the ball once or twice but Naismith does it anyway and its not as if Naismith is a brilliant defender.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
Don't want to slag Naismith off but what is he doing or going to do in the last 20 that Barkley couldn't ?

Fair point. Not saying bring on Barkley but someone should come on to replace him
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:29:09 PM
Oviedo coming on for Naismith it looks like.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Oviedo about to come on for Naismith you'd have to think.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 10:29:20 PM
Well, this has gotten scrappy.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
Get Oviedo on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:31:23 PM
No surprise to see Oviedo for Naismith
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:31:34 PM
Can't wait until Mirallas is back.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 01, 2012, 10:31:53 PM
naismith = dog shit
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:32:01 PM
Oviedo on - good, looked useful vs Arsenal.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
At last.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Can't wait until Mirallas is back.

Any word on him or 'An itchy bear'?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Oviedo on the left and Pienaar on the right?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 10:32:28 PM
I'd take 1-1 and run like a thief
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: buededw1 on December 01, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
oviedo done more than Naismith already lol
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:33:45 PM
I'd take 1-1 and run like a thief

I'm starting to get greedy and want all 3...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on December 01, 2012, 10:34:04 PM
To be fair that cross was terrible.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
I wonder why Moyes has gone back to this 70+ minute sub bullshit?!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Bey you Barkley can't wait to go back out on loan . ???
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 10:35:30 PM
I'd take 1-1 and run like a thief

So much this. It's just a matter of time right now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on December 01, 2012, 10:36:09 PM
I've got a feeling we are going to win this.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
We can still win this.. BELIEVE !!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:36:29 PM
I wonder why Moyes has gone back to this 70+ minute sub bullshit?!

At least it's an improvement on 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
Have we had a shot this half?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: buededw1 on December 01, 2012, 10:36:58 PM
Bey you Barkley can't wait to go back out on loan . ???
waste of a player on the bench
Title: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bally on December 01, 2012, 10:37:14 PM
How many times has osman been fouled today

sent from the assassins guild
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
Why the fuck has barry not been booked? The ref is a proper biased cunt.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:38:08 PM
At least it's an improvement on 90 minutes.

lolol true! 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
10 minutes left... not sure if I want to watch!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:41:57 PM
Need to hold the ball up - get Jela off and go with Vellios surely ?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:42:01 PM
I've got a feeling we are going to win this.

For some reason I am with you on this Ridge
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
10 minutes left... not sure if I want to watch!

rubbish passing from osman and hibbert .Jelavic has been anichebe like in his falling to the floor.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:43:48 PM
Heitinga coming on now...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:44:08 PM
Fuck...it looks like Heitinga is coming on. This isn't meaning I hate Heitinga, it is meaning I hate when Moyes subs in 3 CB's. I think we all remember how that went at Fulham.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 01, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
Jelavic getting frustrated, can't be fun being up front on your own on a day like today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:44:16 PM
For some reason I am with you on this Ridge

We'd need to get in their half for that to happen though.

I'd be happy with 1-1 now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on December 01, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
moyes going for another freakin draw :headbang:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:45:51 PM
Jelavic getting frustrated, can't be fun being up front on your own on a day like today.


He's our new winger you know! 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
Games on...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:46:45 PM
Dirty gets...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on December 01, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
Baines time.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Sooo close
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
 :'( fuck
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Ah fucking hell.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 01, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Trevor Francis is a tit . If every tug on a shirt got a yellow there would only be the officials and 2 keepers left on the pitch .
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 01, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Get in.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on December 01, 2012, 10:48:45 PM
Get in.
?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
C'mon blue boys
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
If only we had our super sub on the bench to get us a late winner.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:50:18 PM
Jela for Heitinga? Why...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:50:43 PM
If this goes wrong in just a minute I'll fucking slap Moyes myself!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:51:05 PM
Was hoping to show a bit more ambition with our sub
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
And that free kick was for.... ?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on December 01, 2012, 10:51:56 PM
let's push forward for a late winner? no, bring on heitinga.

we sometimes deserve what we get, irrespective of a point being good at the etihad.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:51:56 PM
FT...1-1
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on December 01, 2012, 10:51:58 PM
Brilliant result.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
And that free kick was for.... ?

For them to get the winner.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 10:52:20 PM
Shame they got a pen. Otherwise it didn't look like City would have found an equalizer
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
Happy with a point, really need to start winning again though... and fast, Spurs starting to get some form.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Robbed by a shit ref AGAIN.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2012, 10:53:05 PM
happy with that, must beat Tottenham next week now though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Fucking hell, we're level on points with Swansea. They just beat Arsenal 2-0 lol
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: chris350 on December 01, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
I'm sick of draws.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on December 01, 2012, 10:55:35 PM
If only we had our super sub on the bench to get us a late winner.

Even if we had one he would rarely get on.

As positive as our general play has been this season, Moyes will never be one to go for the jugular subs wise.

Good point today though; Would've taken that at the start.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
Brilliant result.

in isolation yes but 10 points in last 9 games is relagation form.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 01, 2012, 10:56:04 PM
Robbed by a shit ref AGAIN.
You can bet it won't get a mention. When did we last get a penno?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on December 01, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
is moyes really on this planet? more of his brilliant substutions  :headbang:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on December 01, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
You can bet it won't get a mention. When did we last get a penno?

Wigan away?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 01, 2012, 10:57:44 PM
take a draw at that place...on reflection could have won. soft penalty by a diving bastard. In my opinion the only time i was dissapointed was after we scored we sat back and let them into the game when we had been totally dominating them.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on December 01, 2012, 10:58:34 PM
in isolation yes but 10 points in last 9 games is relagation form.

Thankfully we're still near the top then.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Verm on December 01, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
I'll take that considering I wasn't expecting to get anything.

Really need a winning run now though.
Title: Re: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 01, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
Yep. Shoulda gone for the jugular.

Based on the first half; 2 points lost.

Based on the second half; hard earned point.

Sent from the Nightclub in Royston Drenthe's Basement.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on December 01, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
happy with that, must beat Tottenham next week now though.



Same as. You're right though, we need to beat Spurs next week. We don't want the opposition for the fourth spot get away from us. But a decent performance Imo. Draw at City! Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
If it wasn't for the penalty...

Game of two halves really. Over the 90 I thought we held our own, it's just a shame we couldn't match the 1st half performance. I think we are seeing the benefit (to City) of having options on the bench.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: keiko on December 01, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
mancity obviously would attack and put pressure on in the second half, they do this to every team in the league and nearly always end up with winning.   this is a good result and performance. fellaini man of the match, he totally owned yaya toure all game.





Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2012, 11:05:27 PM
 so 5 points from Man utd H, Arsenal H and Man City A

take that all day long.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Blue Lagoon on December 01, 2012, 11:05:46 PM
Clean sheet from open play.... First for  a while and against city at the Etihad - hopefully the sign of our regaining defensive composure.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 01, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
Today's result is an excellent point.

It's dropping points at teams like Wigan, Qpr, Norwich, Newcastle, Liverpool etc that is the kick in the tits.

Another ten points from those 5 games and we're sat joint top!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 11:08:04 PM
mancity obviously would attack and put pressure on in the second half, they do this to every team in the league and nearly always end up with winning.   this is a good result and performance. fellaini man of the match, he totally owned yaya toure all game.


Did fellaini do anything in the second half? Considering that and the penalty I'd give MoM to distin or jags.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on December 01, 2012, 11:09:15 PM
we've just played the current champions away from home who have been unbeaten there for nearly 2 years and they got an equaliser from a dodgy pen..... and we're disappointed ! .. We haven't even hit this seasons purple patch yet ... Just look how far we've come in 12 months. We will get a run of wins and if injuries don't cripple us then we're capable of top 3 ...never mind 4th
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
Even if we had one he would rarely get on.

As positive as our general play has been this season, Moyes will never be one to go for the jugular subs wise.

Good point today though; Would've taken that at the start.

I was referring to Anichebe. Wonder where he has been lately?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Azz on December 01, 2012, 11:10:59 PM
Quote
Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian

The plot thickens. David Moyes says in press conf Everton have been told penalty was given against Leon Osman. He's baffled.


Moyes: 'I don't know how many penalties Man City have had recently but it's quite a few.'

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
I think we are slowly getting our mojo back. If we can get Mirallas back soon we might get back to really dominating teams. Boy how much did we miss Gibson though judging by the last couple of games.

I was surprised how much we bossed the first half. You have to expect a reaction and if it weren't for a weak bench we may have been able to push harder late in the second half. We do miss Anichebe no matter what some might say.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: chang on December 01, 2012, 11:11:50 PM
Today's result is an excellent point.

It's dropping points at teams like Wigan, Qpr, Norwich, Newcastle, Liverpool etc that is the kick in the tits.

Another ten points from those 5 games and we're sat joint top!

Steve Round said on 5 live just before KO that Everton have conceded the lead three times this season in added time..it is of course massively frustrating but I do  feel Everton are a good competitive team this season and somebody is going to get a bloody good hiding sometime soon.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2012, 11:12:49 PM
Today's result is an excellent point.

It's dropping points at teams like Wigan, Qpr, Norwich, Newcastle, Liverpool etc that is the kick in the tits.

Another ten points from those 5 games and we're sat joint top!

Don't forget Fulham and Reading
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on December 01, 2012, 11:13:01 PM
we've just played the current champions away from home who have been unbeaten there for nearly 2 years and they got an equaliser from a dodgy pen..... and we're disappointed ! .. We haven't even hit this seasons purple patch yet ... Just look how far we've come in 12 months. We will get a run of wins and if injuries don't cripple us then we're capable of top 3 ...never mind 4th

This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: tonysoprano on December 01, 2012, 11:16:12 PM
This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.


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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Verm on December 01, 2012, 11:16:55 PM
so 5 points from Man utd H, Arsenal H and Man City A

take that all day long.

The points we've dropped against Norwich, QPR, Wigan and Reading more than compensate.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on December 01, 2012, 11:17:08 PM
darron gibson makes me happy, what a fucking guy. we look so much better when he's playing, get mirallas back and we'll be flying again.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on December 01, 2012, 11:17:31 PM
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Who are you?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 01, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
I'm still optimistic about the season, but fuck, ties are boring.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: minty on December 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.

If spurs beat us I'd expect them to pull away from us. Think we'll be close to the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal though so 5th isn't out the question. When Mirallas comes back and if Jelavic finds form, not to mention less mistakes from the likes of Coleman and Howard and we should start beating teams.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: whichonespink on December 01, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
moyes said the referee told him the penalty was given for a foul leon osman made in the box  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2012, 11:20:56 PM
Bale looks like he might miss our game. Has a hamstring injury apparently.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on December 01, 2012, 11:23:36 PM
I'm still optimistic about the season, but fuck, ties are boring.

I have a stylish mauve number that would strongly disagree with that sentiment, I also suspect that Brownie has a bugs bunny one.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2012, 11:23:52 PM
For me that's a bloody good point considering we sat back second half and invited them on. 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on December 01, 2012, 11:25:53 PM
This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.

I beg to differ ... we haven't faced a team this season who I would consider to be better than us, we've had our share of bad luck and drew games we should have walked away with but there isn't a team in this division whom I'm not confident we should beat. I haven't had that much confidence in us for 25 years
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2012, 11:28:02 PM
I beg to differ ... we haven't faced a team this season who I would consider to be better than us, we've had our share of bad luck and drew games we should have walked away with but there isn't a team in this division whom I'm not confident we should beat. I haven't had that much confidence in us for 25 years

yup, we're drawing with the champions during our low ebb, when the going gets good we're going to rack up some serious points
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on December 01, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.




Got to say mate I thought our performance today was fairly impressive. The defence actually did their job for once amongst some quality free flowing football. City had their moments, but, we definitely have it in the locker to play much better than today. We are definitely not getting the rub of the green, but that turns up eventually. Personally I think we've still got chances. I reckon the next couple of games will show us more as to ,where we are as a team.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Lapeno on December 01, 2012, 11:36:08 PM




Got to say mate I thought our performance today was fairly impressive. The defence actually did their job for once amongst some quality free flowing football. City had their moments, but, we definitely have it in the locker to play much better than today. We are definitely not getting the rub of the green, but that turns up eventually. Personally I think we've still got chances. I reckon the next couple of games will show us more as to ,where we are as a team.

Bearing in mind it's Spurs next week and Chelsea before the end of the month with West Ham somewhere in the middle, if we are still three points off top 4 come Jan, I reckon we should fancy our chances. Especially if Benitez   hasn't been sacked by then.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: fast lane on December 01, 2012, 11:48:43 PM
We started off well again, till the final third, so in that regard our goal came out of the blue, although not totally undeserving.
They applied more pressure in the second half, and luckily we didn't let in any late goals this time.

Another point, but at least it didn't feel like two dropped this time.

With Gibson back, and playing well, we look to have our shape again.
They didn't play us off the park, this is encouraging.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on December 01, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
This Everton side is not a top 3 side, I don't think it's a top 4 side. We'd be lucky to be in touching distance of 4th come the season's end.
........I think our football is worthy of top4 and I believe we will finish 4th or 5th. Chelsea and Arsenal are poor ,West Brom will fade away so i think it's between us and Tottenham. But for a stupid penalty we would probably have won today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on December 02, 2012, 12:14:54 AM
I think we were always going to focus on defence second half, then look to pick them off as it got stretched.

But the problem in the second half was that we conceded possession a bit too easily and as the game went on, when the opportunities came, so did tired passes when we got in good positions.

Mancini was saying about us defending with 10 players, but then said we are the best team when we defend. It wasn't a large part of his interview and I think it's more intended as a dig, but it's quite an interesting thing to say.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 02, 2012, 12:21:39 AM
I think we were always going to focus on defence second half, then look to pick them off as it got stretched.

But the problem in the second half was that we conceded possession a bit too easily and as the game went on, when the opportunities came, so did tired passes when we got in good positions.

Mancini was saying about us defending with 10 players, but then said we are the best team when we defend. It wasn't a large part of his interview and I think it's more intended as a dig, but it's quite an interesting thing to say.
Didn't we have like 60% possession first half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on December 02, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
Bearing in mind it's Spurs next week and Chelsea before the end of the month with West Ham somewhere in the middle, if we are still three points off top 4 come Jan, I reckon we should fancy our chances. Especially if Benitez   hasn't been sacked by then.





Chelsea are woeful at the moment, lets hope Benitez is still juggling. Even though Spurs have improved their form I don't fear them anymore. We are West Hams bogey team, but I think that is going to be a tough one too. We are starting to work our way through the top teams. Three played 5 points, two to go. The only thing letting us down are results against the lower rated teams. And no one has mentioned how much space Gibson will give to Mirallas. Once they both recover properly and hit their stride, I think they will link really well. Plenty of positives from today, and I have to admit my waning optimism is starting to return.  
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 02, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
I do like that as a fanbase we are unhappy with a draw at the defending champions. Goes to show how much we have improved this season. I think some of the frustration does come from the fact that we have had so many draws recently.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on December 02, 2012, 12:37:13 AM
What we sorely miss is pace. none of our midfield or strike force have any.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 02, 2012, 01:09:39 AM
Good point

Im confident for 4th, we will beat Spurs and go on a run.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 02, 2012, 02:47:32 AM
Good point

Im confident for 4th, we will beat Spurs and go on a run.

If Ram is optimistic then that should mean something to all of us
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on December 02, 2012, 03:02:15 AM
Got to say mate I thought our performance today was fairly impressive. The defence actually did their job for once amongst some quality free flowing football. City had their moments, but, we definitely have it in the locker to play much better than today. We are definitely not getting the rub of the green, but that turns up eventually. Personally I think we've still got chances. I reckon the next couple of games will show us more as to ,where we are as a team.

I have little faith in the defence but Jagielka was a lionheart. In the main, we stayed organised and disciplined when put under consistent pressure. However, we completely shit ourselves when we scored, conceded the impetus to City and they were always going to equalise. Had it not been the dubious penatly award, I'm sure it would've come shortly after. Everton just went into hiding instead of doing what they had been. All-in-all I'll take the point at Eastlands but they weren't firing on all cylinders and we really need to win soon. To score and then just concede the whole middle of the park to a side as good as City and invite so much pressure onto yourself is criminal. Same thing happened last year except we didn't score.

As for the rest of the season, there's a few things fundamentally wrong with Everton. Obvious lack of depth will remain a concern until we get any serious investment, this may hinder us over the next few months when injuries creep in (especially throughout the winter period). The defence just isn't right, it can't keep a clean sheet. I know today was a penalty but consistently conceding goals to shite opposition just isn't good enough. It's so telling that often the opposition scores against the run of play; the defence can be breached even when seldom tested, by 'lesser' teams. Also, we're not clinical enough with our chances. Again, not specific to today, but throughout the season. Okay, we may get rubs of the green here and there but if you can't get the two basics of football right (ie score and defend), regardless of all the nice stuff you do in between, you'll struggle to achieve anything tangible.

We have had a somewhat uncharacteristically good start to the season but that's only because we've hardly played anyone decent. Only United, Liverpool, Arsenal and City (three of those at Goodison). We still have to go to Old Trafford, Anfield & the Emirates, play Spurs & Chelsea twice and host City at Goodison. We've had a relatively easy start to the season and have pissed far too many points away because the players haven't performed. Key players, we should be able to rely on, like Howard, Heitinga, Pienaar and Jelavic have all had inconsistent (to put it mildly in some cases!) starts to the season.

Funnily enough, I'm sure we'll exceed expectation in games against some of the tougher opposition but that's usually because we tend to raise our game and have a higher level of concentration when playing against the better sides. I'm not saying we'll win them but we may get a point at Old Trafford maybe, maybe a win at the Emirates but it's the mid-table teams and the ones fighting at the bottom that will provide just as stern a test. Teams that come to Goodison and want to cause an upset, with two banks of four or a back nine, and frustrate us.

It's for this reason I feel uneasy saying this is the best team Moyes has had. Maybe on paper it is but the side of 2007/08, even though it employed percentage football a lot more and didn't "play it on the carpet", it would consistently put shit teams to bed and the defence was watertight. That always gives you a chance in any match.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 02, 2012, 03:11:03 AM
If Ram is optimistic then that should mean something to all of us

One of the most optimistic people on here when it comes to Everton
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on December 02, 2012, 03:30:32 AM
That's a pretty honest assesment from Rimbo. The good start to the season we had is slowly fizzling out at the the moment. Maybe we will go on a run, but it needs to happen soon, one win in the last nine or so games isn't really a good start to the season. We're only about 7 points ahead of the same stage last season, which was considered a poor start and we've had a fixture list plenty teams would have loved.

We've been lucky so far in that every other team outside of Manchester has been pretty shit as well and the league is still pretty close. The worry is, as said, we really have had some poor results against teams we really need to beat if we have any ideas of finishing forth, or even top six. Results have also shown that we are only an injury or suspension away from trouble as well.

It's a tightrope we're walking at the moment but we really need to pick up soon and stop conceding stupid goals if we're to get anything out of the season.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 02, 2012, 03:57:38 AM
im still confident of a successful 2nd half to the season. Gibson back in the side is massive (didnt see the game today as was in  work but seems to be getting rave reviews). Mirallas back in the side will also be a big boost when it happens. A good loan signing in Jan could really inspire us, I wont mention who I would like it to be but its the obvious one!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on December 02, 2012, 04:01:44 AM
im still confident of a successful 2nd half to the season. Gibson back in the side is massive (didnt see the game today as was in  work but seems to be getting rave reviews). Mirallas back in the side will also be a big boost when it happens. A good loan signing in Jan could really inspire us, I wont mention who I would like it to be but its the obvious one!

Riquelme?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 02, 2012, 04:04:03 AM
Riquelme?

I'll take any of:Riquelme, Donovan, Straq, Drenthe or Fernandes!
Title: Re: RE: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 02, 2012, 04:08:55 AM
Or Alan Smith

Sent from Pseudopolis Yard
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on December 02, 2012, 04:29:42 AM
I have little faith in the defence but Jagielka was a lionheart. In the main, we stayed organised and disciplined when put under consistent pressure. However, we completely shit ourselves when we scored, conceded the impetus to City and they were always going to equalise. Had it not been the dubious penatly award, I'm sure it would've come shortly after. Everton just went into hiding instead of doing what they had been. All-in-all I'll take the point at Eastlands but they weren't firing on all cylinders and we really need to win soon. To score and then just concede the whole middle of the park to a side as good as City and invite so much pressure onto yourself is criminal. Same thing happened last year except we didn't score.

As for the rest of the season, there's a few things fundamentally wrong with Everton. Obvious lack of depth will remain a concern until we get any serious investment, this may hinder us over the next few months when injuries creep in (especially throughout the winter period). The defence just isn't right, it can't keep a clean sheet. I know today was a penalty but consistently conceding goals to shite opposition just isn't good enough. It's so telling that often the opposition scores against the run of play; the defence can be breached even when seldom tested, by 'lesser' teams. Also, we're not clinical enough with our chances. Again, not specific to today, but throughout the season. Okay, we may get rubs of the green here and there but if you can't get the two basics of football right (ie score and defend), regardless of all the nice stuff you do in between, you'll struggle to achieve anything tangible.

We have had a somewhat uncharacteristically good start to the season but that's only because we've hardly played anyone decent. Only United, Liverpool, Arsenal and City (three of those at Goodison). We still have to go to Old Trafford, Anfield & the Emirates, play Spurs & Chelsea twice and host City at Goodison. We've had a relatively easy start to the season and have pissed far too many points away because the players haven't performed. Key players, we should be able to rely on, like Howard, Heitinga, Pienaar and Jelavic have all had inconsistent (to put it mildly in some cases!) starts to the season.

Funnily enough, I'm sure we'll exceed expectation in games against some of the tougher opposition but that's usually because we tend to raise our game and have a higher level of concentration when playing against the better sides. I'm not saying we'll win them but we may get a point at Old Trafford maybe, maybe a win at the Emirates but it's the mid-table teams and the ones fighting at the bottom that will provide just as stern a test. Teams that come to Goodison and want to cause an upset, with two banks of four or a back nine, and frustrate us.

It's for this reason I feel uneasy saying this is the best team Moyes has had. Maybe on paper it is but the side of 2007/08, even though it employed percentage football a lot more and didn't "play it on the carpet", it would consistently put shit teams to bed and the defence was watertight. That always gives you a chance in any match.




There's a lot of valid points in your reasoning and there are some points that I agree with wholeheartedly. However most of the points I made refer really to the last two games. Arsenal and City. Two of the top teams and we didn't look out of place. I thought after some of the drab draws against teams like Wigan, QPR, Norwich, not to forget the defeat at Reading, had me worried we had lost our way. The last two games suggest otherwise. I'm only making the point that things look more promising due to these two decent performances, against quality dangerous opposition. As I mentioned in the earlier post, my optimism personally is starting to feel more realistic. I really hope we can produce  the goods with this team. I still think 4th isn't beyond us
Title: Mancini
Post by: Shogun on December 02, 2012, 05:30:50 AM
"For them, it's like a champions league final when they play man city here"  :bonk:
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: Azz on December 02, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Knitted scarf wanker, he'll be out a job in the summer...



and then Moyes will be City manager.  lolol
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 02, 2012, 05:34:34 AM
Didn't want to start a new match thread for the Spurs game as it ain't my place but, Bale out of next weeks game, pulled his hamstring. Just hope Defoe gets a knock now!
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 02, 2012, 05:42:45 AM
He’ll have to do better than that to wind us up.
Title: Re: Re: Mancini
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 02, 2012, 05:46:19 AM
Bad quilt

Sent via carrier pigeon
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 02, 2012, 05:49:05 AM
Typical managerial whopper comment. Not as bad as Benitez's "when these small teams...." comment though.

Bad prick.
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: Big Al on December 02, 2012, 06:08:13 AM
Another attempt to mask his failings as a manager of a club with untold riches ! It's for you to break us down and be tactically superior than us you Douche !

I take his remarks as a compliment
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: Shogun on December 02, 2012, 06:12:29 AM
it's ridiculous how much we rile him. no class.
Title: Re: Mancini
Post by: sam of the south on December 02, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
it's ridiculous how much we rile him. no class.

He is a proper bell.

I wish Moyes had chinned him that time.

Now that would've been classy.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on December 02, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
I'll take any of:Riquelme, Donovan, Straq, Drenthe or Fernandes!
I wouldn't take any of them on a free