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Title: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 17, 2014, 06:32:50 AM
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Everton v Swansea City
Goodison Park
Saturday 22nd March 15:00
Premier League Match Day 30


Everton's last 5 domestic results:

Everton 3-1 Swansea - FA Cup (Traore, Naismith, Baines Pen)
Chelsea 1-0 Everton
Everton 1-0 West Ham (Lukaku)
Arsenal 4-1 Everton - FA Cup (Lukaku)
Everton 2-1 Cardiff (Deulofeu, Coleman)

Swansea's last 5 domestic results:

Stoke 1-1 Swansea (Chico)
Everton 3-1 Swansea - FA Cup (De Guzman)
Liverpool 4-3 Swansea (Shelvey, Bony Pen, O.G.)
Crystal Palace 1-1 Swansea (De Guzman)
Swansea 1-2 West Brom (Lamah)

Everton

Seamus Coleman's last gasp miss-hit shot into the top corner against Cardiff at the weekend recorded Everton's fifth home win a row since losing to Sunderland towards the end of 2013. This is currently the best home run in the league with Chelsea, Liverpool and West Ham in second place with 3 wins in a row at home. Only Chelsea (23) and Manchester City (27) have conceded fewer than Everton's 28 this season and only Manchester City (3), Chelsea (4) and Liverpool (5) and dropped fewer points than Everton (9) at home this season.

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Everton are two points better off this season in comparing points won from the 2012-13 corresponding fixtures and that can increase to 4 points should Everton beat Swansea City who came away with a 0-0 draw from Goodison Park last season. It may not sound that impressive but when you consider that not only has a whole new style of play been implemented but the whole direction and identity of the club is undergoing change and that last season was one of Everton's most successful in the Premier League. In terms of transitional seasons, Roberto Martinez's first season has been excellent.

Possible Line-ups

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Swansea

Swansea were on the wrong end of a late goal in their match against West Brom as they conceded in the 85th minute of the match to lose all the points despite taking a very early lead in the match. Only West Brom (16), Fulham (13) and Sunderland (12) have earned fewer points than Swansea (17) this season. Swansea are now four league matches without a victory with the last one coming in Garry Monk's first match as manager. Swansea have failed to win in their last 8 away matches picking up 3 draws in those matches. Their last away win came on 23rd November in a 2-1 win over Fulham.

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It's still early days for Monk in the Premier League and although Swansea will have expected a lot more than one point from Crystal Palace and west Brom at home, they suffered a narrow defeat at Anfield and picked up a good point at Stoke and thrashed Cardiff. They've scored in each game with 9 goals overall but have conceded 8 (4 in one match v Liverpool). By the looks of the table, it'll be Cardiff and West Brom fans who feel most nervous.

Stats and Injuries

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Long Term injuries Arouna Kone, Darron Gibson and Bryan Oviedo along with loanee Lacina Traore will all miss out this game whilst Phil Jagielka is set to return. Steven Pienaar isn't expected to return until the end of the month. Kyle Bartley will miss out for the Jacks though Jonjo Shelvey and Nathan Dyer are due to return.

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Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 17, 2014, 06:41:21 AM
We seem to enjoy playing Swansea. Thinking it will be the same kind of game as against Cardiff though. All sizzle no steak. Still expect a win 2-0 I reckon
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: American Evertonian on March 17, 2014, 07:00:20 AM
Sure we will allow an early goal that'll wake us up. See us winning it 2-1. Don't think it'll be pretty though.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: keiko on March 17, 2014, 08:19:11 AM

last season this match was 0-0, I was there @ goodison park... it was a forgettable match and cold, but it was great day.. time flies.

3-1 (again)






Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Silas on March 17, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Interesting that despite many of us wanting Bony, it is Lukaku that has the best stats
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 17, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Interesting that despite many of us wanting Bony, it is Lukaku that has the best stats

People lap up what they see on MOTD
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 17, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
Interesting that despite many of us wanting Bony, it is Lukaku that has the best stats

His hold up play is so much better than lukaku though.

Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 17, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
People lap up what they see on MOTD

Nah. Bony is a great player regardless of what they say on MOTD.

Against Napoli he was isolated for the whole 90 minutes, but still had their entire defence on toast.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 17, 2014, 06:54:20 PM
Nah. Bony is a great player regardless of what they say on MOTD.

Against Napoli he was isolated for the whole 90 minutes, but still had their entire defence on toast.

I bet if we watched him for 90 minutes week in and week out we would all have the same problem with him as we do with Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 17, 2014, 06:55:16 PM
Reminds me of the Yak
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Silas on March 17, 2014, 06:57:51 PM
His hold up play is so much better than lukaku though.



Indeed but then that is traded off with goals and assists. I don't know who is better but there is a good case that Lukaku is at least as good
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 17, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
I bet if we watched him for 90 minutes week in and week out we would all have the same problem with him as we do with Lukaku.

I think the criticism of Lukaku is a bit overblown (but his hold up play isn't what is should be). I've seen Bony over 90 minutes a good number of times this season (not as much as Lukaku) and I'd say he's more complete than the majority of strikers in the league. He's like Negredo but not as good.

Just my opinion, but I think he'd score a hatful in our system. He has the attributes RM seems to want in a striker which people say Lukaku doesn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TSGun on March 17, 2014, 07:44:38 PM
Going to be the typical must win yet difficult encounter.

Names on the team sheet aren't really important either way. Goodison should be the difference!

Hello to all, I'm new at this but then again the wife showed no mercy so why should anyone else?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on March 17, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
wonder if we'll score in the first half

3-1 everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 17, 2014, 08:36:22 PM
Ugly performance and a narrow victory. I'll take it

Think McGeady will start
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 17, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Ugly performance and a narrow victory. I'll take it

Think McGeady will start

As long as they are all still worth 3 points I'll take it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 17, 2014, 08:46:03 PM
Sure we will allow an early goal that'll wake us up. See us winning it 2-1. Don't think it'll be pretty though.
wont be a thriller 2-1 for me too (pacemakers on full charge) lol
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TSGun on March 17, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
This has 1-0 written all over it....will be late and in our favour.

That said, we'll dominate...look great and deserve the 3pts. And that will do nicely!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: jongre123 on March 17, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
I think Lukaku will shine in this match and we'll pick up a comfortable victory.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 17, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
We seem to enjoy playing Swansea. Thinking it will be the same kind of game as against Cardiff though. All sizzle no steak. Still expect a win 2-0 I reckon

more or less this   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 18, 2014, 12:23:08 AM
3-1 i think. Cant wait :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Heisenberg on March 18, 2014, 12:26:57 AM
Will be a draw if we play like we did against cardiff. Need to up our game
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 18, 2014, 03:32:25 AM
Swansea are one of those teams that actually suits our playing style.

Their style of play generally leaves the game open, than teams that sit back and make it hard.

They wont sit back at all, and we should be able to find the gaps and win easy as we play similar football but have better quality players.

6-0
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 18, 2014, 04:19:02 AM
Swansea are one of those teams that actually suits our playing style.

Their style of play generally leaves the game open, than teams that sit back and make it hard.

They wont sit back at all, and we should be able to find the gaps and win easy as we play similar football but have better quality players.

6-0

I thought Garry Monk's setup in the cup for them proved some flexibility on their parts and they were willing to play a different way to try and get a result. They weren't as open as they have been in the past.

I think like all our games right now it'll be close, but I'm hoping for an improved performance from the Cardiff game.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 18, 2014, 05:05:19 AM
wonder if we'll score in the first half

3-1 everton.

I'll put a nice bet on that we won't.

HT Everton 1-0
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: ncstate4jpc on March 18, 2014, 06:08:42 AM
First match at Goodison ever for me this weekend... Can't wait.

4-0 EFC, COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Confucius on March 18, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
First match at Goodison ever for me this weekend... Can't wait.

4-0 EFC, COYB!

awesome news. Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 18, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
First match at Goodison ever for me this weekend... Can't wait.

4-0 EFC, COYB!

Check the weather forecast before you set out!

(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article6708083.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/zz130414wee-1-6708083.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: ncstate4jpc on March 18, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
awesome news. Enjoy it.

Thanks pal
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 19, 2014, 02:26:39 AM
First match at Goodison ever for me this weekend... Can't wait.

4-0 EFC, COYB!

Here's hoping you can also find a bar somewhere to watch NC State/Louisville later in the day!!  :D
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Danny on March 19, 2014, 05:12:34 AM
Interesting that despite many of us wanting Bony, it is Lukaku that has the best stats

Bony has only been decent since Monk came, people are suggesting he was misused under Laudrup but i've not seen enough of him to form a proper opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bally on March 19, 2014, 12:09:58 PM
Check the weather forecast before you set out!

(http://i4.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article6708083.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/zz130414wee-1-6708083.jpg)

Still kills me that his name is Wee, and it was pissing down.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2014, 12:35:37 PM
Still kills me that his name is Wee, and it was pissing down.

I wouldn't mess with Malaysians Bally. One has ruined QPR, another has defiled Cardiff just for fun and 2 others have just made a plane disappear.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Trowel on March 19, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
Still kills me that his name is Wee, and it was pissing down.
"Mate, you've got wee on your back."
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: farnhamtoffee on March 21, 2014, 01:32:47 AM
First match at Goodison ever for me this weekend... Can't wait.

4-0 EFC, COYB!

Youre in for a treat , enjoy every minute
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 21, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
2-1 tomorrow .luk and mirallas .hard game no prblems though 5ths looking very good  :woohoo:
ps whys my Karma going down lol
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 04:04:44 AM
BBC saying Jagielka is 50-50 and Pienaar will miss out and won't be back for another two or three weeks.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 04:08:37 AM
BBC saying Jagielka is 50-50 and Pienaar will miss out and won't be back for another two or three weeks.
pity about jags ,but wont be missing  Pienaar  on his current form
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: stirlingblue on March 22, 2014, 04:54:49 AM
pity about jags ,but wont be missing  Pienaar  on his current form

We miss Pienaar no matter what form he is in.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 05:33:53 AM

We miss Pienaar no matter what form he is in.
[/quote] but he has been subbed latetly ?not injured  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 05:41:47 AM
Will definitely miss Pienaar
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 05:45:17 AM
Will definitely miss Pienaar
when hes on form hes brill. lately hes been off imo x
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Redartin on March 22, 2014, 05:57:49 AM
I think the mid week European games my mean that both Spurs and United may drop points this weekend, hopefully we won't, but Lawro has us down for a win, and that's a worry. We could be 5th tomorrow night
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: GLewis on March 22, 2014, 03:38:03 PM
I think the mid week European games my mean that both Spurs and United may drop points this weekend, hopefully we won't, but Lawro has us down for a win, and that's a worry. We could be 5th tomorrow night

Both their games are tough as you say.

Spurs rested a few though so may have less impact than hoped.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 04:39:33 PM
when hes on form hes brill. lately hes been off imo x

Even when he is off, he still offers something creative. We miss him when he isnt playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
Pienaar would have been great for this type of game.

I hope McGeady starts ahead of mirallas, he deserves that at least for how he performed when he came on last week.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 06:18:04 PM
Even when he is off, he still offers something creative. We miss him when he isnt playing.
ok you win lol
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: MarcusFenix on March 22, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
Excited now, was supposed to be working today however that has turned pear shaped some got a ticket for todays game in the Upper Bullens, really hope we tear these a new @rsehole today
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
We definitely will miss Pienaar, but it's a good chance to see more of what we've got in McGeady.  Plus, more interesting quality time with the Kid.

COYB, do it for the NC State guy watching his first game live (and for this one watching at home, who one day will hopefully attend a match at Goodison pre-dirt nap).
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Howard Coleman Stones Distin Baines Barry McCarthy Mirallas Barkley McGeady Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
Happy to see Ross and McGeady starting, happy with that in general.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 22, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
Real chance for Aiden McGeady to stake a claim for a place today. Also hopefully Mirallas can cause some damage down that left hand side
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 08:18:32 PM
Howard is captain today...was he last week too? I forget.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Howard is captain today...was he last week too? I forget.

Nah Osman was last week.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Surprised Howard is captaining the side, would have gave it to Distin or Barry personally. Happy to see McGeady start after setting up the winner last week, would have maybe given Deulofeu another start in place of Mirallas but hopefully the Belgian will have a top game
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Surprised Howard is captaining the side, would have gave it to Distin or Barry personally. Happy to see McGeady start after setting up the winner last week, would have maybe given Deulofeu another start in place of Mirallas but hopefully the Belgian will have a top game

While there's still meaningful games to play for we'll never start with Barkley, Lukaku and Deulofeu in the team Stevie, there all to inexperienced at the moment unfortunately.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Everton Mint on March 22, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
Big game for Barkley to prove he can boss a midfield and keep up eith a top passing team...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 08:32:39 PM
Over the moon with that team!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
Over the moon with that team!!!
strong bench too
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 08:37:28 PM
If it wasn't for the De Guzman/Hernandez position I'd have got my OP line up completely right :(

One day.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 08:37:58 PM
Good team, would have preferred Delefeou ahead of Mirallas, I just hope he isn't as greedy as he has been recently.

That team is pretty strong, should win here.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
any good streams?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 08:49:04 PM
any good streams?

This should be good, but the coverage hasn't started yet.

http://nutjob.eu/njtvx29.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx29.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
Hopefully Rom can score a few today aswell, be great if he clicked back into gear for the run in.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 22, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
Good team, would have preferred Delefeou ahead of Mirallas, I just hope he isn't as greedy as he has been recently.


I prefer Deuleofeu as an impact sub. Stick him on after making Swansea chase after the ball for 65 minutes and they're fucked.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 08:50:38 PM
Dylan loves a good nutjob
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 08:51:04 PM
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=246462&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=246462&part=sports)

List here.

The nut job one is the one I tend to use most of the time, it seems the most reliable.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
Streams
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 08:51:37 PM
This should be good, but the coverage hasn't started yet.

http://nutjob.eu/njtvx29.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx29.html)

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 08:52:38 PM
Dylan loves a good nutjob

Yep, you should've met a couple of my exes, Shogs.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 08:58:09 PM
Streams

http://www.feed2all.eu/watch/248622/1/watch-everton-fc-vs-swansea-city-fc.html (http://www.feed2all.eu/watch/248622/1/watch-everton-fc-vs-swansea-city-fc.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 08:58:17 PM
I've got nutjob on.

Decent so far, pictures a but grim though.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Attacking lineup. Barkley at attacking midfield, real chance to shine. Coyb. Predicted 2-0 in Predo league, but this could be 4-2 with this lineup.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
good quality on mine :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
coybbbbbbbbbbbbbs :clap:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
Baines not captain?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
Not the best start
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:01:52 PM
Fucking el lads. Wakey fucking wakey.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: keiko on March 22, 2014, 09:03:31 PM
Big game for Barkley to prove he can boss a midfield and keep up eith a top passing team...


 He was man of the match in the away match and won the game with his freekick. he does not really need to prove he can keep up with swansea. lets  hope he plays well like every other player in the team, and he is given the ball in the right areas.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
Great setup, poor finish.  I've heard that one a time or ten before this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
Lukaku is really good at the killer pass. Need 1st half goal!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:08:15 PM
Usual early sitter wasted.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:09:35 PM
Barkley and Mirallas really need to fucking improve. Especially the later
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:09:58 PM
Lukakus hold up play is looking good
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:10:05 PM
McGeady storming this
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
1-0 Cardiff :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:12:33 PM
1-0 Cardiff :)

Don't get your hopes up
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:14:04 PM
Lovely ball, Big Rom.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
Need to get going here.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
The worst signing in our history's having a positive impact so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:16:18 PM
We look fucking dreadful at times
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 09:16:23 PM
Is it just me or does McGeady look like Aaron Paul?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
We look fucking dreadful at times

agreed.

thought there was a fixture mix-up to begin with. thought we were playing real madrid...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 09:19:28 PM
thankyou
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:19:35 PM
Is fucking right. John Stones you genius!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:19:50 PM
fucking get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
Great ball by Stones, that's what you get for mixing it around a bit
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:20:02 PM
Great dive that haha
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
Penalty.

I was just thinking when I saw Flores a few minutes ago that he's always good for a fuck up somewhere.

And Baines nails it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
Top pen, what a man
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Great dive that haha

Eh?

Baines, never in doubt.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
Is that 10 consecutive pens for our Leighton?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:21:30 PM
I was also thinking when Distin had the ball a few minutes a go, "just launch it and see what happens". Not everything needs to involve every player from front to back.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:21:32 PM
and were off  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 09:21:55 PM
never a dive.

Nice to get an earlyish goal!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
stadium-live on wiziwig is brilliant stream :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Looked a dive to me.

I'm not assed, about time our players realised what you get from doing it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: pjk on March 22, 2014, 09:23:07 PM
Is that 10 consecutive pens for our Leighton?





I think that's 12 on the trot.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
An Everton striker injured?

That'd be a first this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Redartin on March 22, 2014, 09:23:31 PM
SHOCKS!

Everton are awarded a penalty
Everton score inside the first 20mins
Baines lost his hairs

Great ball by Stones to Barkley
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
And I'm also thinking how nice a 6-0 humping of this lot would help our goal difference with Arsenal. Not that I'm thinking of 4th yet. 8)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Bony looks perfect for us, by the way - great movement, touch and power.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
Mcgeadys fucking boss isn't he
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:26:24 PM
Swansea look threatening going forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:27:48 PM
Brilliant from Stones
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 09:28:55 PM
Stones has been brilliant, so has has mcgeady
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 22, 2014, 09:30:16 PM
Brilliant from Stones

For all the talk about Moyes' lack of trust in youth, he sure knew how to pick out a future world class defender from an early age.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
2-1 Cardiff :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
Just watched a replay of the pen again, was a better finish imo than the one Bainesy scored in the cup game
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:32:38 PM
 Mirallas is so frustrating
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
shit...rangel :(
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:32:59 PM
Beauty that
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Cracking football, its been coming.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 09:33:07 PM
They've looked threatening all game
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
Great goal, it's been coming
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:33:35 PM
We'll start playing now.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:33:52 PM
we'll do well to win this...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:33:57 PM
omg not again are defending is awful :wag:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Fuckity fuck. Good goal though.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 09:34:05 PM
Won't happen next season if we blow our load on Bony.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:35:24 PM
This has been utter shite.

We look so fucking poor at times.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
swansea playing well
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
It was a good goal for them but he had way too much space.

I wish for once we would have an easy game.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: april on March 22, 2014, 09:37:15 PM
Where was Baines for the goal? I'm sure he just gets his hair done like The Arctic Monkeys.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bob Sacamano on March 22, 2014, 09:37:27 PM
Bit like the cup game this
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Wayne routlegde is running the show
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
Bit like the cup game this

Hope the result is the same.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:40:20 PM
Playing well Swansea.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
They've pinned our fullbacks in our half on the whole, and Mirallas might as well be playing for them.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
Not doing the basics but are losing it repeatedly with daft flicks. Weve got to earn the right to play. Been dreadful and unless it changes soon we'll be behind
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
They've got us worked out
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Mirallas not helping us at all today.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
Can't get hold of the fucking thing here
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
Every time the ball comes in the final 3rd it just goes straight back to them.

Worst I've seen us play for a good while. Worrying pattern developing here
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Heisenberg on March 22, 2014, 09:42:26 PM
Once again we haven't got behind there defence. Martinez is worse than moyes for having no plan B
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 09:42:37 PM
Bit like the cup game this
god we are  awful need a good rollicking at half time
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 09:43:08 PM
Mirallas not helping us at all today.

I cant believe how many on here rate him so highly. Hes shite. A liability most games for the payoff of a few wonder goals a season
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Redartin on March 22, 2014, 09:43:36 PM
One of our strengths is meant to be possession and we're losing it.
Hope we don't fuck up on the same day as Arsenal & RS
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
I think Naismith would do well here. Also would like to see Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
In the words of Evertonians in NC: sub at half time.


Deulofeu for Mirallas
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
shit. lucky we're not behind.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:45:26 PM
Fucking blow that whistle ref. Let's get off this pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
One of our strengths is meant to be possession and we're losing it.
Hope we don't fuck up on the same day as Arsenal & RS

The Everton way..
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Amata on March 22, 2014, 09:45:40 PM
Bit like playing with 10 men with Mirallas out there today.  Swansea playing like we should be
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: cantoffee on March 22, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
They are all over us. We are awful.

No one moving at all until the ball is kicked, it's pathetic.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:46:56 PM
Thank fuck for that.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:47:04 PM
Fucking joke of a half that.

Do we have anyone who can just bring the ball down and play?

FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Fortunately their corners are as bad as ours
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 09:47:29 PM
Thank goodness. Awful stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:47:29 PM
that was fucking awful. we look like the relegation fodder; not swansea.

we have to come out better than that.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 09:48:17 PM
I'd take Mirallas off at half time, he's done absolutely fuck all. Really frustrating first half that, need to cut them off otherwise we'll lose it
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Simon Paul on March 22, 2014, 09:48:21 PM
Absolute worldy blonde in the Swansea end hasn't watched one second of the game. Her fella is wearing an England jacket
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: The Good Citizen on March 22, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
Missing Pienaar's control massively. Leon on second half for me, bit of Nowse in the opposition half.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
We started off pressing the ball and squeezing the lines with a high defence really well. We stopped doing that and they've come in to it in a big way.

Apart from the pen Baines has been non-existent as an attacking threat and Mirallas even worse. He's been a liability.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 09:48:43 PM
bloody hell. Naismith/deulofeu for Mirallas please.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
Naismith and osman for lukaku and Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Redartin on March 22, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
Clearly the team have got used to scoring at the end of games because when Baines scored they stopped playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Is this how we play without Pienaar?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Naismith and osman for lukaku and Mirallas.

never thought i'd agree with that, but i do.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Simon Paul on March 22, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
Half time entertainment is a horse
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
never thought i'd agree with that, but i do.

I'm fucking sick of them to be honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on March 22, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:51:50 PM
Need to introduce Delefeou at the hour if its still 1-1
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Mirallas has been embarrassingly bad for a while now. He's worse than a passenger, he's a hindrance to us.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Simon Paul on March 22, 2014, 09:52:44 PM

So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?

Yes
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?
Most of their chances came in the last 15 minutes or so and Howard barely tested but they've been well dominant.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Danny on March 22, 2014, 09:53:01 PM
So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?

Yeah, I do a live updates thing on reddit and I only wrote about 5 things in the whole half.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: cantoffee on March 22, 2014, 09:53:32 PM
Movement is absolutely non-existent in front of Stones and Distin when we have the ball. Everyone just waiting for the ball to be played before moving towards it.

In contrast, every Swansea player is moving to create space and give each other an option.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: dazfrancis on March 22, 2014, 09:53:38 PM
As much as Pienaar has been slated in the last few weeks Everton are a poorer team without him because players like Barkley, Mirallas, McGeady and Deulofeu aren't really the type of players that play with their head up looking for a team mate.

The closest thing we have in the squad today is Osman
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 09:53:41 PM
I cant believe how many on here rate him so highly. Hes shite. A liability most games for the payoff of a few wonder goals a season
You'd think you were describing Bilyaletdinov. Quite similar in some aspects can have flashes of brilliance and then be absolutely shite. I'd say he needs to go in the summer we need more consistency. Bony seems mint I can't believe the fact that someone prior to this game has scored 17 goals that the defence have stood off him so much. They aren't giving Swansea any respect and its cost us.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 09:53:55 PM
So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?

It was worse.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 09:54:13 PM
We play our best football in the last 15 minutes of games, looking forward to this now.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 09:54:49 PM
Mirallas needs dropped for a few games, he's been woeful recently.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 09:55:45 PM
As much as Pienaar has been slated in the last few weeks Everton are a poorer team without him because players like Barkley, Mirallas, McGeady and Deulofeu aren't really the type of players that play with their head up looking for a team mate.

The closest thing we have in the squad today is Osman
I'd agree mate if hed been fit Id have put Pienaar obv on the left and McGeady on the right. He's impressed me so far. had one awful backpass that could have cost us a goal but he's pacy and looks quality.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Redartin on March 22, 2014, 09:56:20 PM
So was that half as bad as the BBC stats make it out to be?

I thought they got MORE than 6 corner. They have taken up residence in our penalty are. Hard to believe we are the home team. Don't think it matters a fuck who is up front for us, the ball isn't at that end of the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on March 22, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
Jesus, that bad huh.

On the bright side, we only ever play well for one half anyway, so it can only get better.

...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:00:16 PM
Let's just hope we've got our shit half out of the way, and got away with a 1-1 from it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
Lets hope he has gone bazerk at them at half time.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
No subs :(
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
You'd think that after the fa cup game Roberto and the team would be aware of their quality and they didn't ave Bony that day. Althought we won 3-1 it wasn't entirely convincing.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
The contrast between Lukaku and Bony is fucking stark.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
Haven't seen us dominated like that at home all season.

Players can't get the ball!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:04:56 PM
He'll score now I've said this, but I will be glad to see the back of lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:05:07 PM
So has anyone who had the fact that Bony is an excellent player down as an MOTD promulgated myth changed their mind yet?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
Big John got away with that one
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:06:12 PM
This lack of pressing and not closing down is depressing.

Swansea are first to every second ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
Time for a change.

We'd probably benefit from Naismith's tenacity.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:08:13 PM
I had to pause the tv for a bit, just now caught up with feed and comments.  Surprised to see so much praise of Stones, I don't think he's been very good at all today (aside from the pass that set up Barkley drawing the pen).  Of course, he has more than enough company.

FFS, Distin.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:08:23 PM
A bit better there.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: stirlingblue on March 22, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
Swansea can't keep up this intensity for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:09:43 PM
Surely no one is gonna pay Chelsea the 25M they apparently want for Lukaku. His touch is terrible
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 10:10:29 PM
Hurrah!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:10:31 PM
Love the big man!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:10:36 PM
Awesome sequence for Lukaku.  Thanks for the reverse jinx, Ram.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
this shit should put paid to all our false hopes of europe...so saying   :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
Yes Ram, thanks for the jinx babe ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
What a surprise, Mirallas decides to be greedy = GOAL

Keep it up Kev, pass when you need too.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
He'll score now I've said this, but I will be glad to see the back of lukaku.

MOM= Ram

(Lukaku 6)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
Surely no one is gonna pay Chelsea the 25M they apparently want for Lukaku. His touch is terrible

Haha. Brilliant. I get an assist for that and in fairness he did leave the ball behind half way through the move
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
Props to Ram for that one.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 10:11:21 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :woohoo:
great pass by kevin
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Hopefully that'll give them confidence. Therein lies the conundrum of Lukaku and Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:11:57 PM
You're welcome lads.

Martinezleftteste deserves some credit aswell
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
Credit Lukaku for not hanging his head and giving up on the play.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 10:12:26 PM
some credit for Mirallas as well please?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Trowel on March 22, 2014, 10:12:46 PM
Credit to Distin for starting that with a great tackle.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Worst two players on the pitch combine.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
Right can we control the game, and get 2 ahead?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
You're welcome lads.

Martinezleftteste deserves some credit aswell

My timing was perfect. I was the post before all 1s celebrating his goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:14:26 PM
3-1 :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: theshred on March 22, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
woot woot!!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
Get the fuck in!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 10:14:49 PM
OH MY GOD WE SCORE FROM A CORNER
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
Still not over, I'd like to see us get a 4th. 5th
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
Right can we control the game, and get 2 ahead?

Yes....yes, we can.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 10:14:57 PM
wooooooooooooooooooooo  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bob Sacamano on March 22, 2014, 10:15:50 PM
Bit like the cup game this

Boom. Headshot.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
We scored from a corner!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
Get in Ross! need Cardiff to get a third too! ;-)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
Still not over, I'd like to see us get a 4th. 5th

Couple of kids on the bench. Love to see them get a run if we are comfortable with 20 to go
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:16:27 PM
I'd be glad to see the back of Gareth Barry.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 10:16:35 PM
Right can we control the game, and get 2 ahead?

yes
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:16:36 PM
Still not over, I'd like to see us get a 4th. 5th

Yeah we need to improve our goal difference as well,
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:17:31 PM
some credit for Mirallas as well please?

Ok. He's been awful today but did really well assisting both goals. Good corners today
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 10:17:51 PM
Bout time a corner paid off for us, now we need to push on and finish it off
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:18:30 PM
Odds on Shelvey getting sent off?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
shite 4-2 up...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:18:50 PM
I'd be glad to see the back of Gareth Barry.

Are you trying to make him score too?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
I know Bony's a handful, but why are we giving him the freedom of our half?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:22:47 PM
I know Bony's a handful, but why are we giving him the freedom of our half?

Because we are playing as poorly as possible for a team that's up 3-1. 
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:23:23 PM
Mirallas should have put this game to bed there
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
We're so open. The gap between our defence and midfield which was perfect for the first 25 is now enormous.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Oh Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
This is precisely why it's not over, gotta take those chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Amata on March 22, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
Bony has been superb today.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 10:25:01 PM
shite 4-2 up...

No offence but who cares
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Oh Mirallas
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:26:17 PM
You know we've played bad when we're winning 3-1 with 20 minutes to go and you're desperate for a 4th
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
Bony off is a nice announcement for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
Our lack of control, given our formation is alarming. As Hill said, the gap between defence and midfield is scary.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:27:04 PM
Why the fuck are they taking Bony off?!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: stirlingblue on March 22, 2014, 10:27:29 PM
We're winning 3-1, why are we pressing so high up the pitch?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Our lack of control, given our formation is alarming. As Hill said, the gap between defence and midfield is scary.

Fault of the defenders, midfielders, or combination?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
evidence today that you often get more than you deserve.

and blue stevie: i don't give a fuck either, but at this time of the season it's common to comment on the sides above, when we're trying to narrow the gap between us and them.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:28:46 PM
Fault of the defenders, midfielders, or combination?

I think what stirling said...no need for a high press. Sit, stay compact and kill them on the break.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 10:29:34 PM
McGeady is fucking boss, i love him.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:30:21 PM
Well, at least today is good Karma for all the draws we've had despite dominating the balance of play.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:31:02 PM
You can tell McGeady is slowly getting his confidence.

Looking forward to seeing what he can do after a full preseason.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:31:25 PM
McGeady is fucking boss, i love him.

Ironic that he's been our biggest threat but he's been involved in none of the goals, whereas players who've offered very little have been.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:33:55 PM
McGeady is fucking boss, i love him.

MoM so far? Who else?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:34:33 PM
let's hear it for distin   :clap:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:35:24 PM
Distin or McGeady for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Distin saving a sure goal makes him a definite contender.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Everton Mint on March 22, 2014, 10:36:34 PM
Can anyone advise how I can reset my password as Ive lost access to my email and can only access the forum on my mobile and not my new PC ??
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: stirlingblue on March 22, 2014, 10:36:41 PM
Flores pretty much just powerbombed Mirallas there....
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
Big block from Distin but he's been run ragged all afternoon!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:38:05 PM
Why havent we made changes?? We are playing dreadfully. Wheres the downside of trying to change things?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
Timmy's done very well, too.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
Big block from Distin but he's been run ragged all afternoon!

as have all our defence...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 10:39:09 PM
Howard, Distin, mcgeady all motm contenders
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
Barkley's done fairy well as well. Hasn't always chosen the right option, but at least he's taken responsibility to pick up the ball and carry it when we've been under pressure.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
MoM so far? Who else?

Howard!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:39:49 PM
Think I'm leaning Howard because of how bad the defense around him has been.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: hill135 on March 22, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
as have all our defence...

Exactly. Swansea could have scored a hatful and the defence is largely culpable.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:40:10 PM
We just havent been able to keep hold of the ball enough, very frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
i'd be gutted if i was a swansea supporter. hope they're applauded off (if they lose) :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
Osman and Naismith coming on
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
i fucking HATE Newcastle.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:42:04 PM
Lets not forget Barkley. Played just ok today but involved in 2 goals and when he starts and plays well, we seem to win!

Extremely important player
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:42:06 PM
i fucking HATE Newcastle.

Still could happen. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:42:27 PM
I'm glad that Stones could have a learning experience like today, but not have it cost us points.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Still could happen. Keep the faith.

Im keeping tabs and they are worse than Jelevic was for us
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Another near miss resulting from sloppy defending.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:47:51 PM
They've given us a lesson in playing between the lines. Like we did against Arsenal earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
Pathetic defense.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
3-2......
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Trowel on March 22, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Sloppy.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:49:29 PM
Glad that didn't come 10 minutes ago
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
Fucking blow the whistle ref, and let's get off the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:49:51 PM
i was about to say we'd mugged them...but it's not over yet :(
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
THANK. FUCK, FOR. THAT. phew...
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
How important were those Distin and Howard saves from 5-10 mins earlier??
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:51:29 PM
You can all fuck off telling me Robles distribution is worse than howards
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 22, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
heart stopper that one :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 22, 2014, 10:51:40 PM
Wow. One of our most undeserved wins since we won 0-1 at Sunderland several years ago
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Cozzie on March 22, 2014, 10:51:42 PM
Didn't deserve that, thought swansea where brilliant.

Important win.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: dchans on March 22, 2014, 10:51:52 PM
Awesome

Just won 500
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Trowel on March 22, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
Good to be winning playing like this at least.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:52:01 PM
Another positive is that Fulham and Newcastle are as shit as ever.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:52:02 PM
We would have drew that if that goal came a few minutes earlier
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 10:52:07 PM
We've been absolutely dreadful today. We could have easily lost this by 2 or 3

Got to say despite their contributions with the goals today Lukaku isnt worth big money and Miralles is a liability.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: cantoffee on March 22, 2014, 10:52:08 PM
That was mostly very poor. They deserved a draw with the amount of chances they created.

Stones had a really poor game, can't blame him as he's so young but it will be great to get Jags back soon.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TheRam on March 22, 2014, 10:52:41 PM
We've been absolutely dreadful today. We could have easily lost this by 2 or 3

Got to say despite their contributions with the goals today Lukaku isnt worth big money and Miralles is a liability.

I agree
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Hopefully Swansea can go to Arsenal and find some luck...

Phew.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 10:52:59 PM
We were very poor, hardly anyone can be pleased within their performance but today was more important to get the 3 points and move 5th and put pressure on Spurs.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blob on March 22, 2014, 10:53:04 PM
Another positive is that Fulham and Newcastle are as shit as ever.

bit premature...newcastle looked to have nicked it :(
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluestevie on March 22, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
Vital win, back above Spurs by a point and 6 clear of United heading into Tuesday's game at Newcastle
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
bit premature...newcastle looked to have nicked it :(

Lizz will be getting herself off if that's true.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Major Clanger on March 22, 2014, 10:55:03 PM
Thank fuck for that, we were shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: stirlingblue on March 22, 2014, 10:55:04 PM
We were very poor, hardly anyone can be pleased within their performance but today was more important to get the 3 points and move 5th and put pressure on Spurs.

I think McGeady can come out of that with his head held high. Other than that, maybe Distin but he really should have controlled the back four better, as an experienced pro he's gotta take some blame for Stones' performance today.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: keiko on March 22, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
That was mostly very poor. They deserved a draw with the amount of chances they created.

Stones had a really poor game, can't blame him as he's so young but it will be great to get Jags back soon.

jagielka is definitely missed a lot, he is the best defender in the club.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 22, 2014, 10:57:01 PM
All worth 3 points.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 22, 2014, 10:58:19 PM
Is fourth still a possibility? 8 points behind Arsenal with a game in hand? and we're a point ahead of Spurs also with a game in hand.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Danny on March 22, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
No motm today for me, thought they were all bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
It's results that this could count at the end of the season. Just like there's games we should win and don't, there's games we shouldn't win and do and this is one of them. We ground out a result and that's the most important thing, it's not fancy to watch at times but three points is three points.

The only concern being that we really haven't played well for a while now and you can only grind out results for so long before it bites you in the arse again.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 10:59:31 PM
Is fourth still a possibility? 8 points behind Arsenal with a game in hand? and we're a point ahead of Spurs also with a game in hand.

Can you honestly see us putting a run of 5 or 6 wins together playing like that? Buzzing we won like, but realistically we're not good enough for Top 4 at the moment. No shame in that.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Have to say I've been quite impressed with Garry Monk's Swansea, he just hasn't got the results as yet but they've been playing well and are more penetrating than when they were under Laudrup.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
Today is proof positive of the principle that, with a large enough sample size, "breaks" will mostly even out.  Got 0 or 1 when we deserved 3 earlier in the season, got 3 when deserved 0 today.  It all comes out in the wash.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
A run for 4th would be shocking, though I guess we could magically regain our form just as quickly and randomly as we lost it.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 11:01:20 PM
Is fourth still a possibility? 8 points behind Arsenal with a game in hand? and we're a point ahead of Spurs also with a game in hand.

Not the way we're playing it isn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
I thought Barkley played well today.


Can't believe Naismith and Osman came on for Barkley and McGeady instead of Mirallas and Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: DannyR on March 22, 2014, 11:06:20 PM
Barkley played well, Distin was solid as usual.

McGeady put a shift in, He gets my MOTM
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 11:08:36 PM
Today is proof positive of the principle that, with a large enough sample size, "breaks" will mostly even out.  Got 0 or 1 when we deserved 3 earlier in the season, got 3 when deserved 0 today.  It all comes out in the wash.

Honestly I don't believe that at all. Just like penalty decisions, or other referee bias doesn't equal out. The bias almost always goes to the bigger team who are happy to perpetuate the myth.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: cantoffee on March 22, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
Yea Barkley was largely good, still needs to release the ball sooner at times but he was certainly better than most everyone else on the pitch.

Stones was bullied all game and caught out of position time after time.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueToffee on March 22, 2014, 11:10:41 PM
Howard and Barkley played well I thought. I thought McGeady was decent too, not quite the final article but improving.

Howard was kinda sloppy in distribution but other than that played well.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 22, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
i fucking love you Newcastle, just won 240 with that last minute goal :D :D
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 22, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
Honestly I don't believe that at all. Just like penalty decisions, or other referee bias doesn't equal out. The bias almost always goes to the bigger team who are happy to perpetuate the myth.

I agree with you about officiating.  But outside of reffing bias, the points usually reflect the quality of play (long term).
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2014, 11:13:42 PM
Anyway, we won again, and that counts for something. Now we get to laugh at Man U for a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 22, 2014, 11:18:48 PM
Boney for Kone & send Lukaku back to Maureen but 3 points is 3 points and Spurs are shite.

Howard MOM

That is all.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Ross on March 22, 2014, 11:19:00 PM
I think McGeady can come out of that with his head held high. Other than that, maybe Distin but he really should have controlled the back four better, as an experienced pro he's gotta take some blame for Stones' performance today.

I think he was possibly the best of a under performing bunch, certainly nothing particularly special. Hopefully as his fitness improves he will become a very important cog in the machine but he wasn't that special today just more efficient than the rest.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 22, 2014, 11:19:13 PM
will take a scrappy win like that at this stage of the season.  All that matters is the result

Swansea deserved something out of it but i don't care!

Classic shout by some fella by me as we struggled to clear our lines
"Just fucking clear it!!!"

McCarthy hoofs it clear

"who the fuck was that to?!"

you can't have it both ways!

Thought McGeady came into the game second half, Barkley showing signs of improvement and McCarthy did some vital mopping up at times.

We struggled to get Coleman into the game, and the two Belgians were largely poor
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on March 22, 2014, 11:21:44 PM

Jesus, that bad huh.

On the bright side, we only ever play well for one half anyway, so it can only get better.

...

😀😀😀😀

3 Pts is 3 Pts.

5th place with a game in hand.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Gash on March 22, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Anyway, we won again, and that counts for something. Now we get to laugh at Man U for a couple of hours.

Interestingly, according to Talksport Man Utd's away record is the third best in the league, it's Old Trafford they're having the problems at.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2014, 11:35:06 PM
Is anyone going to be daft enough to pay 20-25M for Lukaku? I dont think hes had a game where hes looked worth more than half of that in about 4 months and hes had plenty where hes looked like a non league player

Id take him for 10M cos hes got potential but at the prices being talked about he'll be going nowhere
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: velimski on March 22, 2014, 11:38:15 PM
Interestingly, according to Talksport Man Utd's away record is the third best in the league, it's Old Trafford they're having the problems at.

they've scored as many goals at home as Fulham have!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueski on March 22, 2014, 11:46:00 PM
thought they were all bad.
agree but for me its distin as MOTM who wasn't spotless but was having to cover for stones far too much

amazing how many times we wasted posession needlessly

Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: The Good Citizen on March 22, 2014, 11:53:23 PM
3 wins in a row, thats a first in the league this season.

A win at Newcastle would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 22, 2014, 11:54:35 PM
Don't think we have won away since Swansea
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Silas on March 23, 2014, 12:25:36 AM
Mc Geady good today, lads got talent but is sensible as well. Disappointed in mc carthy slowed down our play far too much today.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: blueski on March 23, 2014, 12:33:29 AM
Mc Geady good today, lads got talent but is sensible as well. Disappointed in mc carthy slowed down our play far too much today.
yeah thought it was an off day for him

also with regards to lukaku I wonder if maybe he's got an illness or slight knock (at least I'm hoping this)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bally on March 23, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
Never have I watched such a shit performance produce 5 goals
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Confucius on March 23, 2014, 01:04:48 AM
We didn't score two of tem and we were lucky they were so wasteful.

Barry and McCarthy look very very tired.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: 74Blue on March 23, 2014, 01:08:42 AM
Mirallas definitely needs demoting to the bench at least for a few weeks. He was absolute shite again today.
The performance overall was piss poor, but there were a few positives to be taken, such as McGeady looking like he could be a decent addition to the squad. He certainly offers something a little bit different to what we already had in the squad.
Ross Barkley was better today than he has been in recent weeks, still not quite back to his best but definitely improving.
To play that badly and come away with three points is a positive too. A win is a win, however it is achieved.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 23, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
A mention for Howard. Vital saves that kept us in front when Swansea were dominating the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 23, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
yeah thought it was an off day for him

also with regards to lukaku I wonder if maybe he's got an illness or slight knock (at least I'm hoping this)
yes  at one point were they not going to sub him ?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: everton1952 on March 23, 2014, 03:01:57 AM
Martinez annoyed me with his expression of "delight" at that display. He should be delighted with the points absolutely, because to be outplayed for that long and get a win was commendable. Not a single shot at goal from the home team  in the first 45 minutes apart from the penalty produced predictable booing. The poor  second half display by so many players except for a brief spell when we scored 2 goals, ended with a reaction at the final whistle normally associated with a defeat. I never leave early but a lot did judging by the empty seats. For Roberto to claim that the second half was all about letting them come at us and catch them on the break was bollocks. Bar 10 minutes they walked all over us and they could not believe they had lost a game they dominated almost throughout. I am grateful for the win and that with 9 games to go we are 5th which is great. But I find Roberto's perpetual talking up of some of our poorer displays tiresome. At least when it is appropriate Moyes would have said we were poor and lucky to win. McGeady looked good though. As for Mr Lukaku 6m max or bye bye.
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Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: charlatan on March 23, 2014, 03:07:02 AM
Just got home now.

Thought we were poor all over.  Very lucky to get away with the 3 points, mostly down to piss poor finishing by Swansea and some good saves by Howard who kept us in it..

For me Mirallas can go.  Contributes the square root of fuck all, and is happy to just fall down and wave his arms at the ref.  Finish when clean thru at 3-1 was absolutely woeful.

Lukaku scored, but other than that was dreadful.  Never seen such a big unit so inept at controlling the ball and using his body to shield the ball since Brett Angell.  Don't want him at any price, and can see why Mourinho doesn't fancy him either.  Would rather have Bony who made us look uncomfortable the whole time he was on the pitch today.

Howard made some good saves, but thought we were awful especially 1st half.  Thought McCarthy put a shift in, and couldnt moan at the defence or Barry.  McGeady tried to create things, and Barkley tried hard.

Just a collective bad day at the office hopefully
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 23, 2014, 03:07:41 AM
EFC Stats ‏@EFCStats  1h
8 - Todays match makes it 8 home wins in a row. This is the longest run at Goodison since March 1986.

Thought this was a nice little stat.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bally on March 23, 2014, 03:17:35 AM
Just got home now.

Thought we were poor all over.  Very lucky to get away with the 3 points, mostly down to piss poor finishing by Swansea and some good saves by Howard who kept us in it..

For me Mirallas can go.  Contributes the square root of fuck all, and is happy to just fall down and wave his arms at the ref.  Finish when clean thru at 3-1 was absolutely woeful.

Lukaku scored, but other than that was dreadful.  Never seen such a big unit so inept at controlling the ball and using his body to shield the ball since Brett Angell.  Don't want him at any price, and can see why Mourinho doesn't fancy him either.  Would rather have Bony who made us look uncomfortable the whole time he was on the pitch today.

Howard made some good saves, but thought we were awful especially 1st half.  Thought McCarthy put a shift in, and couldnt moan at the defence or Barry.  McGeady tried to create things, and Barkley tried hard.

Just a collective bad day at the office hopefully

Ha ha I likened him to Angell too a few weeks ago,  those who never saw him have no idea how alike they are as players.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 23, 2014, 03:17:54 AM
EFC Stats ‏@EFCStats  1h
8 - Todays match makes it 8 home wins in a row. This is the longest run at Goodison since March 1986.

Thought this was a nice little stat.
really turning into fortress goodison isnt it
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: charlatan on March 23, 2014, 03:23:27 AM
Ha ha I likened him to Angell too a few weeks ago,  those who never saw him have no idea how alike they are as players.

It's frightening how bad he was ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: everton1952 on March 23, 2014, 03:23:40 AM
Pity the troops inside the fortress are clearly unhappy with the way the battle is being conducted if not with the unquestionably excellent return of points. Maybe Evertonians have a problem? They like to win in style. It might come eventually given time and an infusion of better players.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 23, 2014, 03:29:45 AM
Pity the troops inside the fortress are clearly unhappy with the way the battle is being conducted if not with the unquestionably excellent return of points. Maybe Evertonians have a problem? They like to win in style. It might come eventually given time and an infusion of better players.

People are never happy mate. Just the way we all are.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 23, 2014, 03:36:00 AM
People are never happy mate. Just the way we all are.
sof never complained about playing badly and winning why should we,we get 3pts that
matters the most  :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 23, 2014, 03:56:05 AM
EFC Stats ‏@EFCStats  1h
8 - Todays match makes it 8 home wins in a row. This is the longest run at Goodison since March 1986.

Thought this was a nice little stat.
Including the two in the cup?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 23, 2014, 04:08:10 AM
Including the two in the cup?


Must be doesn't say League wins.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: ncstate4jpc on March 23, 2014, 05:12:25 AM
Like I told you all earlier, today was my first visit to Goodison. I loved every minute of the match. Don't know how many more opportunities I will get to travel this far for a match, bu many thanks to all of you for being so kind and welcoming.

As far as our play was concerned, it wasn't perfect but it was effective in the end. Pleased to see is snag all 3 points!

Again, thanks to all of you for your kindness and hospitality to this American Evertonian. Cheers :)
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 23, 2014, 05:14:54 AM
Like I told you all earlier, today was my first visit to Goodison. I loved every minute of the match. Don't know how many more opportunities I will get to travel this far for a match, bu many thanks to all of you for being so kind and welcoming.

As far as our play was concerned, it wasn't perfect but it was effective in the end. Pleased to see is snag all 3 points!

Again, thanks to all of you for your kindness and hospitality to this American Evertonian. Cheers :)

Glad you enjoyed it mate. Happy you got to see Everton win as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: howard1334 on March 23, 2014, 05:15:40 AM
Miralles worthless? You people are crazy--he had two assists today! His overall game may have been below par, but when you finish with two assists you contributed.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Shogun on March 23, 2014, 05:18:47 AM
Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: bluegrant on March 23, 2014, 05:19:40 AM
the guys having a bad run plus hes after world cup place .love him
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: TrevorSteven on March 23, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
Funny ro read all the criticisme of Lukaku and Mirallas...They are posing a threath, they are scoring goals and creating opportunities and todays showing was not about them not beeing at their best...People also praise McGeady and offensively he did alot of good but defensively he was not up for it, but he just needs a bit of time.

Stones was shockingly bad today getting dragged out of position way too much giving Swansea huge chances, but the main problem was our style of play.

With offensive wingers and wingbacks we need DMC's with pace and work rate. Today Swansea dragged our DMC's out to fill the gap our offensive wingers had given and with fast movement on the ball McCarthy and Barry never managed to get back to positions. Distin was amazing today never getting tricked into trying to make up for this while inexperienced Stones went for it all the time. For me this is all about a dominoeffect and nothing about Lukakus poor first touch.

Liverpool play partially a bit like us but they havent had the same problem because of a incredible work ethic from Henderson and Allen.

Our main need is one more defensive minded midfielder with high energy and pace, If we get That our front players will blossom even more.

For me Lukaku is pure quality and with 3 offensive midfielders and a passing mentality I cant understand why Lukaku should play a hold up game...he should be our spearhead scoring goals like today and he knows That game.

For you critics are You missing the days of Kevin Kilbane and Marcus Bent? I put my hands up for quality and embrace magic Mirallas and Lukaku!
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Confucius on March 23, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
Love that post Trevorsteven
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 23, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
Also any argument on Mirallas and Lukaku can be countered by saying one of those is our top scorer and the other has provided our most assists, and both provided what they get paid to do yesterday
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bally on March 23, 2014, 01:53:03 PM
Thing is though they were shit yesterday, lukaku has been shit since his haircut, if Naismith lost the ball as much as Lukaku he would getting fucking raped on here,  if Osman lost the ball as much as him the same would happen, Mirallas' form has been way off but he has the luxury of been a quality player and some things still happen for him he loses so many fucking tackles though it is annoying.

Now lets  get to the passing shall we Mirallas as we all know has been off and his game has suffered but he can still find a pass, the only successful pass from Lukaku yesterdya was the most important one that led to his goal.

They both have quality but at the minute I cannot see Lukaku becoming anything other than a second season Yakubu
A Lukabu if you like

Mirallas will return to form and become the player we all know he is.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: ally2 on March 23, 2014, 03:09:09 PM

Funny ro read all the criticisme of Lukaku and Mirallas...They are posing a threath, they are scoring goals and creating opportunities and todays showing was not about them not beeing at their best...People also praise McGeady and offensively he did alot of good but defensively he was not up for it, but he just needs a bit of time.

Stones was shockingly bad today getting dragged out of position way too much giving Swansea huge chances, but the main problem was our style of play.

With offensive wingers and wingbacks we need DMC's with pace and work rate. Today Swansea dragged our DMC's out to fill the gap our offensive wingers had given and with fast movement on the ball McCarthy and Barry never managed to get back to positions. Distin was amazing today never getting tricked into trying to make up for this while inexperienced Stones went for it all the time. For me this is all about a dominoeffect and nothing about Lukakus poor first touch.

Liverpool play partially a bit like us but they havent had the same problem because of a incredible work ethic from Henderson and Allen.

Our main need is one more defensive minded midfielder with high energy and pace, If we get That our front players will blossom even more.

For me Lukaku is pure quality and with 3 offensive midfielders and a passing mentality I cant understand why Lukaku should play a hold up game...he should be our spearhead scoring goals like today and he knows That game.

For you critics are You missing the days of Kevin Kilbane and Marcus Bent? I put my hands up for quality and embrace magic Mirallas and Lukaku!

I pretty much disagree with every point you've made there. Funny how we all see things differently.

Barry and McCarthy ran all day. I thought Barry in particular never put a foot wrong and was willing to accept the ball in tight spaces. McCarthy could have been more progressive but there was quite a bit of space between the midfield and defence. Those two have put in an immense amount of work this season with no rest and no cover. They have been fantastic.

Stones was fine. There was one pass that almost led to a goal yes but I really hate this mentality that defenders should just go through the standard set if boring predictable passes. Stones can run and pass the ball extremely well and he has to be able to learn. He's getting amazing experience.

I've lost it with Lukaku. I don't care how young he is. He is a big lad but pretty much lost every battle yesterday. We do need him to hold up play but he can't do this. There were periods yesterday where the ball just kept coming back at us. That is when you need to have someone you can count on to release the pressure. And even if that wasn't his game, his pace is hardly electric and that isn't going to change with age either.

I always liked Mirallas but his decision making is quite poor.  McGeady did do defensive work yesterday but he obviously doesn't have that understanding with Baines like Pienaar.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
Mirallas has no interest in link up play, or anything he cant look like a hero in. It's not a new thing, he's just not a team player, and never will be. He's a MOTD player. The sooner we'd get rid the better, i'd try for some kind of exchange with kagawa, Moyes loved him
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: ally2 on March 23, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
Kagawa would be fantastic. Especially for Barkley. Won't happen though. I can see him being wasted as a bit part player at United or returning to Dortmund if Klopp hasn't taken over at United by then.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Everton Mint on March 23, 2014, 05:41:55 PM
Just watched nearly the full game again (on Sky) and have to say we were really poor and Swansea very unlucky.

Howard kept us ahead and Distin was superb but no-one else really impressed and our ball-retention was the worst Ive seen all season.

Barkley gives the ball away too much and leaves us overrun in MF and I think Osman should still play before him if Pienaar isnt fit. Pienaar's ability on the ball is so important to keep us ticking that we need a replacement if he's out. Osman might not have the magic of some but he is still a fine first-touch player and can create and score as much as Barkley can.

At the back we are badly missing Jags and Stones is on a very steep learning curve.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: pjk on March 23, 2014, 06:19:54 PM
The usual organization in defence was sadly lacking. No Jags when injured spells mayhem. Yesterdays performance was one of those occasions. Mcgeady looks great, but was at fault to a certain degree for the Bony goal. He will get fit and sharper and as most can see is the player Martinez claims him to be. I'm not sure about his defending but time will tell. Will Roberto sacrifice a more practical approach in defence for the virtue of Mcgeadys obvious attacking abilities? Jags absent from defence is a big miss (and it always shows) as is Pienaar in his role with Baines. When Pienaar is unavailable and Jags is unavailable too, We really need someone with an attacking mentality tenaciously closing down and getting the rest to notice that virtue is available and is on the pitch. I don't mind if I get slated but that player has to be Naismith. No bite in the lower line of attack with Jags and Pienaar out, is a constant concern and leaves a hole in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 23, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
Im amazed at some of these ratings.
Howard- 8 It seems high but he kept us in the game numerous times.  I know his job is to save shots but if the defence were doing their job he wouldnt have to. Some brilliant saves esp that one off Bony at the Park End. Excellent. MOM by a mile.
Baines- 5 It would have been lower had he not scored the penalty.  Cost us the equaliser and tbh wasn't his usual self.
Distin- 4 Like a lot of players not tight enough esp on Bony. For someone who has scored 17 goals you'd stick to him like shit on a blanket. Made some decent interceptions though.
Stones- 3 might seem harsh but he was often caught out too many times which might be why Distin wasnt his usual self as he was mopping up some of Stones mistakes which made his performance a bit shoddy. Again, stood off too many times and was uneasy on the ball at times. I know he's young and he'll be a hell of a cb but this wasnt a good day at the office. Strong lesson learnt there.
Coleman- 5 played well-ish made some good defensive blocks but also got caught out a few times.
Barry- 4 This will probably send a backlash but hear me out. When watching the game he stood off FAR too much for me. Yes he did make some vital interceptions but he stood off far too much and gave Swanses too much space which in turn gave our defence a torrid time. Worst performance in a blue shirt.
McCarthy- 3 Again I know ill get a backlash but he was anonymous today. Like Barry gave Swansea too much space. When they both play bad it shows.  Didnt offer anything today very ineffectual. 
Mirallas- 5 only because he got two assists. Id give him a pre season and if hes still the same ship him out. Loved him when he arrived but he has gone spectacularly downhill.  Shouldn't have scored the 4th too. Often used to describe him and it is again: frustrating! !
Barkley-6 did well for the pen and also scored. Tried to force forward play and get the ball up the field. Could have been higher if he had been a bit more defensive minded. Hed have flourished in this game if Swansea weren't so tight on him. 
McGeady-7 Brilliant today there were flashes were you thought hed take the game by the scruff of the neck. Ran everywhere always wanting the ball and trying to make something happen. Mirallas should take note.
Lukaku- 5 again would be lower had it not been for the goal.  Lets see how many he scores this season.  He scored 17 for west brom last season so really he needs to scored another 8 to say he's progressed which I can't see him doing. Id take him next season on loan and buy Bony he was quality today again Lukaku take note.
Subs
Osman 5 did ok just did what osman does and tried to nullify Swansea. 
Naismith 5 did well and nearly broke for the 4th.
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 23, 2014, 06:30:33 PM
Why was stones marking and distin sweeping?
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: arteta4spain on March 23, 2014, 06:33:58 PM
If someone wants to move that to the ratings feel free. Im on my phone not sure how to do it. :-(
Title: Re: Everton v Swansea
Post by: Bluedylan on March 23, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
Why was stones marking and distin sweeping?

Fair question. I suppose Distin's extra pace and greater awareness might be a reason, and maybe some credit should be given to Bony because he seemed to be pulling onto Stones more than Distin to exploit his physical superiority.