I'd just play like Marsellies.
I dreamt that I just switched onto the game, and big Rom scored from the half way line. Except the opposition then changed to being Chelsea. And then big Rom started running around cheering, and seemed to have a woman's wig on. Next he had make up on. I don't understand what that dream was about.
I dreamt that I just switched onto the game, and big Rom scored from the half way line. Except the opposition then changed to being Chelsea. And then big Rom started running around cheering, and seemed to have a woman's wig on. Next he had make up on. I don't understand what that dream was about.Was he is blue and black or white and gold tho?
I dreamt that I just switched onto the game, and big Rom scored from the half way line. Except the opposition then changed to being Chelsea. And then big Rom started running around cheering, and seemed to have a woman's wig on. Next he had make up on. I don't understand what that dream was about.
are we on the box tomorrow?
just checked. no.
I think you might like black trannies but I'm not a professional.
Match on NBCSN for me, blarg, and everyone else watching from the frigid US.
The Shite getting hammered by City will make a fine breakfast appetizer.
Vital we get at least a point here ,results today aren't doing us any favours. We could be 16th by tonight ffs
Results are going for us. Palace and West Brom (and Everton but I'll get moaned at) were never going to get relagated...........I notice you don't mention the bottom club. If you were at Goodison last week you'll know how close we were to losing to Leicester at the death. We're too close to the drop zone is what I'm saying. I hope we don't need to beat Spurs on the last day with the Europa final 3 days later.
As long as Burnley and Villa don't win then there's no need for panic.
You mean Monaco?
Marseilles lost 3-2 at home to Caen last night
Aren't there injury concerns regarding Lukaku?
Also I think Barry is still serving a suspension for having accumulated 10 yellow cards. Gibson would be a good replacement but ideally in a more forward role.
Barry was just serving a one game ban for the red at chelsea. If he gets booked today he has a 2 game ban
Pretty much nailed on for a yellow in this game. Probably on Walcott.
Excited to see who his tactical yellow foul is on today and how long he leaves himself with in order to not pick up a second yellow!
If he gets a red today does he just get a 1 game ban again?!
I don't think Gibson needs to start this. Arsenal aren't just going to sit back and defend therefore there should be some space for us to exploit on the counter attack.
We will need to be at our best defensively so I see Martinez picking Barry, McCarthy and Besic for this one
Looking at the bench, we have pace with Kone and Lennon to bring on to stretch things later on.
4-3-3 with Barkley wide left?
For fuck sake. 4 midfielders. Not fucking needed. Wanted gibson to start here. Barkley out of position again. Fucking sick of this shite.
For fuck sake. 4 midfielders. Not fucking needed. Wanted gibson to start here. Barkley out of position again. Fucking sick of this shite.
Has to be. Or right. I don't get it myself. Unless we play with more central players and just lukaku up front.I guess it could actually translate more into a diamond on the pitch.
For fuck sake. 4 midfielders. Not fucking needed. Wanted gibson to start here. Barkley out of position again. Fucking sick of this shite.
Rather a soft spine for Arsenal there.
Rather a soft spine for Arsenal there.
just looking at howard. he'll soon be stepping on that fucking beard...
The aim is to grow it so big and bushy that he can stand one side of the goal and tie it to the other post and cover the goal.
The only trouble is when we switch ends and if we can get it untied in time for the second half.
fucking hell blob
you forgotten how to have a bit of fun, lizz? it's a normal guy making a face, ffs.
Well, he rates Garbutt.
Could their forwards possibly do any less work without the ball?
I can't find any good streams.http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-3b232b-arsenal-vs-everton-fc (http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-3b232b-arsenal-vs-everton-fc)
Anyone have any?
I'm quite happy so far
Possession is completely meaningless if you dont have any intention of doing something with it.
If a top 4 team away has ever been more there for the taking, I can't remember it.
a bit more urgency in our play and we can win this.
People's moaning is a reflection on our season so far rather than this performance.
This is exactly how we played in this game last season. Largely passive possession and we didn't really look like scoring. People were pulling themselves off in ecstasy then.
People's moaning is a reflection on our season so far rather than this performance.
This is exactly how we played in this game last season. Largely passive possession and we didn't really look like scoring. People were pulling themselves off in ecstasy then.
If Arsenal evet get out of first gear we're dead.
in this formation Barkley is key to unlocking them, and much as it pains me to say it he's been shite so far. But the three sitting midfielders is working perfectly so far, on a positive note.
Fark - called it
waiting for the enevertable howard at fault shouts
Colemans fault for me. Not directly but losing the ball on your own byline takes som explaining. We seem to want to play regardless. Even playing a possession based game you done get tackled there
Arsenal have scored.....Oh well at least we arewinning the possession and backwards passing stats.
I wonder if that was in Martinez's gameplan
You have to wonder if we work on corners both attacking and defending in training.
Didn't help did it
Stones pulling his socks up while the corner came in didn't help either though
Can't believe the way we ended that last minute if injury time.
We - as a whole, from martinez to the fans - are ruining Ross barkleys career
We - as a whole, from martinez to the fans - are ruining Ross barkleys career
Barkley out of position again. Game after game its the same unbalanced line up. Either play barkley through the middle or just don't play him at all.
Need lennon on the other flank for some balance.
Its going to sound odd, but an injury to Barkley putting him out for a few weeks might do him good. Get him completely away and get his head straight.
At the minute we're not playing to his strengths and he's suffering massively for it.
Scored on their first attempt on goal? Could be going in at 1-1 if not for two timely tackles. Naismith or Osman for Barkley Bobby la.
We honestly look like we're not bothered about scoring.
Bollocks. Lads had about 3 good games this season. Hes a very lucky boy because based on performances he shouldnt be playing
and that's why I included Martinez, dipshit
he shouldn't be in the team, he should be rested and allowed to get some confidence back and his head back in the right place. He should also be played in his correct position.
He shouldn't, however, be fucking booed or moaned at within five minutes of the game starting for a tiny mistake that leads to nothing
YOu really need to lose that chip off your shoulder. You're moaning for the sake of moaning.
You realise there are two teams in this game? And that we're away to a team that is considerably above us in the table?and that they can play their football as well?
Of course it's not his gameplan to concede from a set piece you passive aggressive tit.
We've allowed Arsenal to get back into the game more and we've lost our early control of the game. Changes will need to be made for the second half, Gibson could come on maybe for McCarthy or Besic to give us more positive passing football plus unfortunately Barkley is just not doing well at all and losing possession, we probably should have started with Lennon despite his Tottenham connections and the possibility of Arsenal fan abuse being directed towards him.
We - as a whole, from martinez to the fans - are ruining Ross barkleys careerwe Got it the first time ;)
and that's why I included Martinez, dipshit
he shouldn't be in the team, he should be rested and allowed to get some confidence back and his head back in the right place. He should also be played in his correct position.
He shouldn't, however, be fucking booed or moaned at within five minutes of the game starting for a tiny mistake that leads to nothing
Try a reply without insult next time if you want to have a disscussion - its called a forum for a reason and im not one of the ultra negative people but we deserved that.
Arsenal were there for the taking first 20 mins, yet everytime the option was on to move the ball forward quickly, we turned and played a sidewards or backwards 'safe' pass to keep possession. All that nothing possession has let Arsenal settle and come back into it. A bit more attacking intent could have resulted in us getting a goal and forcing Arsenal to open up, making it a more open game.
Now Arsenal will watch us play it round slowly, press us in their half and counter.
He's playing in his correct position
Barkley for Kone and Besic for Gibson for me, just get the fucking roundy thing towards their white thing with the net behind it quicker please.
It's depressing watching Coleman stroll down the line towards their goal and turn back when he's about 30 yards out and chase like a fuckin greyhound towards our half with the ball time and again.
its an injury which fucked him up in the first place, stupid statement
He's playing in his correct position
There's never anybody within 30 yards of him when he's out wide either. The midfielders just stand there and watch him.
The insult was a reaction to your sarcy digs.
A more open game suits Arsenal. They are a better footballing side than us and they're at home. I don't understand why they're there for the taking just because they lost to Monaco in midweek - a team that use a very negative game plan.
I think it would be counter-productive to have gone on the attack from the off. Given that Arsenal are presumably low on confidence after midweek, and their notoriously intolerant crowd, it doesn't strike me as unreasonable to try and kill the game and take the crowd out of it. It's now too late because we failed to defend a set piece.
People love an argument on this site
I think we just got away with a handball in the penalty box
I think we just got away with a handball in the penalty box
People love an argument on this site
Have Kone and Lukaku played together yet?
Coleman looking the most likely for us.
Giroud really is a cunt
Have Kone and Lukaku played together yet?
How many times this season has the first shot on target gone in? It's almost ridiculous now.
Would have been very harsh though
He was falling over
Rom has been poor today. Just then he was anticipating the ball going for a corner but he just stood still instead of shielding the ball which allowed them to take back control of possession.
i think a winger shagged Roberto's wife, he hates them
Rom has been poor today. Just then he was anticipating the ball going for a corner but he just stood still instead of shielding the ball which allowed them to take back control of possession.
i think a winger shagged Roberto's wife, he hates them
Howard's positioning for that goal man
Gabriel looks like Stracs ugly young brother
Get a grip everyone. It's 1-0. We are well capable of getting something from this.
Howard's positioning for that goal man
Get a grip everyone. It's 1-0. We are well capable of getting something from this.
Coleman has been good. Thats about it.
Central? Come on mate!
Have we ever won a game live on BT Sport?
i dont understand why he isnt making a change...?
Ross and Seamus pulling out of 50/50's there
SO FUCKING SLOW ive had it with this shithouse team
Barkley not interested in going for second balls is he?
Quite a few of the Arsenal players have big noses, don't they?
I'm relying on all your comments to suss what's happening in the game and it's got to a conversation on how big the Arsenal players noses are. Haha.
Well, it's interesting how they don't get given offside so much.
Is this not the time to bring a striker on?
Is this not the time to bring a striker on?
Arsene is listening!
If we didn't have Jags blocking everything today this game would be done and dusted.
going down arent we hahaha
Were we this bad when Moyes led us to 17th?
Just need Lukaku to score now for my prediction to make the best of a bad day
going down arent we hahaha
Were we this bad when Moyes led us to 17th?
Were we this bad when Moyes led us to 17th?
Absolute dog shite again. Dont even know where to start.
Worse
Absolute dog shite again. Dont even know where to start.
no.
Arsenal have been wank today, and yet here we are drifting to another aimless defeat. Very serious, fundamental problems with our team.
Hey, where were yer Thursday?I dont think it really matters where i was on thursday does it ? Whether i was at home, work or servicing your missus we d still be shit.
I dont think it really matters where i was on thursday does it ? Whether i was at home, work or servicing your missus we d still be shit.
Not just the WUMs though is it? i've noticed Eddie, Ram, Lizz off the top of my head (and others)
Arsenal have been wank today, and yet here we are drifting to another aimless defeat. Very serious, fundamental problems with our team.
This is what makes the site shit when we lose.
Too many people just wanting to constantly have a pop at posters, instead of discussing what's going wrong.
We're all entitled to moan about what's going on. Don't like it, then log off.
But they're here through thick and thin. Have you not noticed that?
The glaring issues aren't being addressed through stubbornness, each game is almost a carbon copy of the one previous to it without a hint of our manager doing anything to fix it. No wonder the players are dejected.
We're the easiest side in the league to play against.
But you always seem to miss the good games don't yer? It's just such shit luck.Why not call a spade a spade and admit we are shit under Martinez rather than say the same predictable shit? Truth be told i wasnt amazed with Thursday. Yeah we beat Young Boys hardly enough to set the pulse racing. We are in trouble in the league and Martinez is terrible but if you cant see it ....
No that's true, i'm not disagreeing, but i'm more arsed about the team being in freefall than a few people turning up to have a pop.
We haven't even been that bad today.
We're playing ARSENAL away from home and probably should have been 1-1 but for Ospina making a brilliant save from Lukaku and having absolutely no luck for Rosicky's goal.
Now, if we're shit in midweek then I'll accept all the criticism but I'm not sure what was expected form this match.
We haven't even been that bad today.
We're playing ARSENAL away from home and probably should have been 1-1 but for Ospina making a brilliant save from Lukaku and having absolutely no luck for Rosicky's goal.
No, if we're shit in midweek then I'll accept all the criticism but I'm not sure what was expected form this match.
Why not call a spade a spade and admit we are shit under Martinez rather than say the same predictable shit? Truth be told i wasnt amazed with Thursday. Yeah we beat Young Boys hardly enough to set the pulse racing. We are in trouble in the league and Martinez is terrible but if you cant see it ....
But when you get people just turning up solely to have a pop is a tad annoying isn't it? They never seem to be here when times are good. Just makes you question whether they are actual fans, Bots or just plain and simple dickeads in need of a good filling in.
We haven't even been that bad today.
We're playing ARSENAL away from home and probably should have been 1-1 but for Ospina making a brilliant save from Lukaku and having absolutely no luck for Rosicky's goal.
Now, if we're shit in midweek then I'll accept all the criticism but I'm not sure what was expected form this match.
I think you've put your finger on why it has been so annoying. We weren't beaten, just drifted along with the game and in the end came away with nothing.
The glaring issues aren't being addressed through stubbornness, each game is almost a carbon copy of the one previous to it without a hint of our manager doing anything to fix it. No wonder the players are dejected.Cracking post imo
We're the easiest side in the league to play against.
Turn it in, mate
But when you get people just turning up solely to have a pop is a tad annoying isn't it? They never seem to be here when times are good. Just makes you question whether they are actual fans, Bots or just plain and simple dickeads in need of a good filling in.
This is what makes the site shit when we lose.
Too many people just wanting to constantly have a pop at posters, instead of discussing what's going wrong.
We're all entitled to moan about what's going on. Don't like it, then log off.
Something different than the dire shite we've had to watch all season?
Not just the WUMs though is it? i've noticed Eddie, Ram, Lizz off the top of my head (and others)
Not just the WUMs though is it? i've noticed Eddie, Ram, Lizz off the top of my head (and others)
Isn't that even worse though?
If we were playing shite and were beaten, you could say it's a much easier situation: cut out the silly mistakes, start playing to our strengths and we'll start to pick up points. But if we're playing okay and we still end up with fuck all on the table, how can you turn that around?
Im starting to think that last season was a mixture of Robertos football and the players having 10 years of Moyes' high intensity play still drilled into them.
Course I can see it, but I don't log on here especially to moan about anything and everything shit about Everton. I come on here for other things, the likes of you use this as a vehicle to post shit.But is it shit ir the truth. I havent posted much positive this season as quite simply there hasnt been much positive at all. I dont give a shit if that pisses you off if im honest.
By not utilizing the same tactics? We're only playing okay in terms of we're keeping possession. By pretty much any other metric we're not great. I've never had such little confidence in us scoring a goal in the PL.
I didn't see or hear the game so I relied on the match day thread. I'm fairly sure we were crap by all accounts, but were the fuck did the nose measuring came from. Btw Arsene wins it by a nose
Just as concerning is the players attitude, I wouldn't accuse them of not caring but they just don't seem scared of losing or worried about the consequences.
Martinez is fucking shit. Completely unable to adapt from his default mindset. He's been sussed since the start of the season and hasnt even tried to rectify it. The man needs to go at the end of the season.
Isn't that even worse though?
If we were playing shite and were beaten, you could say it's a much easier situation: cut out the silly mistakes, start playing to our strengths and we'll start to pick up points. But if we're playing okay and we still end up with fuck all on the table, how can you turn that around?
This season the league is a write off, we will stay up purely because there are remarkably even worse teams than us in the league. We will get a few more wins and loads of draws (like Stoke in a few days). I just hope we can continue to smash it in Europe.
Hopefully a good pre season and we will be much improved next season. Today wasn't too bad really compared to how badly we've played in some games. Martinez for me has until half way through next season to show us good signs of progress
As long as we manage to stay up I can give Martinez until January next year simply based on last year's play. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but that honestly becomes harder and harder every week.
This season the league is a write off, we will stay up purely because there are remarkably even worse teams than us in the league. We will get a few more wins and loads of draws (like Stoke in a few days). I just hope we can continue to smash it in Europe.
Hopefully a good pre season and we will be much improved next season. Today wasn't too bad really compared to how badly we've played in some games. Martinez for me has until half way through next season to show us good signs of progress
I'm afraid that's the result of the positive attitude of Martinez. Being positive is great when things are going well, even when you hit a slight dip in form, but when you're dealing with a season-long poor run, it's no good telling players that it's all fine.
They will know it isn't fine of course but the mixed messages don't help at all.
not really. it's one thing expecting to harvest points from clubs outside the top 6 or 8 with a 'reasonable' display... but a reasonable display against the likes of arsenal gets us exactly what we have; nothing.
I really feel the problem is Barkley. He hasn't performed at all. Actually it's probably more that Martinez decided to completely trust him and we have very little to offer centrally in an attacking sense. It has affected the whole balance of the team.So barkley the reason we are shit?
As in history in general, often it's the boundaries between eras that produce the most interesting things
We were unlucky today and did not deserve to lose 2-0. We nullified most of their game but could not find the net. One brilliant save from their keeper from Lukaku, otherwise 1-1. Garbutt was excellent. Yes this season's league is a write off and probably so is Martinez although I expect him to be given until October or November to produce a team challenging for the top 6. I said previously we need 3 wins plus a few draws from somewhere but again I cannot see many wins at all, so we may have to rely on maybe 1 win somewhere and 6 draws, and hope others do worse. If we lose at Stoke then start praying with 10 games left. If we go even close to going down then sack Martinez in May. 6 wins in 28 games is a disgrace.
From what I can gather it was another helping of the same flat uninspiring aimless drifting. Aimless drifting is a perfect way to explain it.
So barkley the reason we are shit?Its not ross fault that the manager is not managing him effectively ?
Martinez is fucking shit. Completely unable to adapt from his default mindset. He's been sussed since the start of the season and hasnt even tried to rectify it. The man needs to go at the end of the season.
It should definitely be considered.
So barkley the reason we are shit?
Yeah, I'm afraid drastic measures have to start entering the conversation. It's not just that Martinez is looking so shit, it's that he's literally starting to seem a smiling madman. You see these types in America a fair amount--corporate dipshyts who keep blathering the positive speak even as their ships are going down. Only difference is, the adult supervision usually comes in and sacks them.Enjoyed this post
On our current point total and form, we are in danger of getting relegated. And I have zero confidence in Martinez by now to turn it around, or even try something new. Or to even inspire the players to look arsed. At this point, that Italian fascist Sunderland had a while ago or new manager Big Dunc headbutting underperforming players would give me more confidence than Martinez.
Yeah, which is why it's so hard to change things. You can't just switch tactics mid-season and expect it to work. We've gambled everything on this style of play and we aren't winning with it.
Disagree MC. You can change it halfway through and it work perfectly. Look at westbrom for instance.
As was said earlier, we put all our eggs in the same basket. But Barkley couldn't deliver (because of injury, form and maybe expectation) and it's meant strain on our wide areas to deliver.
Looking at our fixtures we really should be digging our way out now.
To me it also seems like Martinez has made decisions before the game.I honestly dont think hes capable.
'If we are down, Ill bring on X for X around this minute or that minute.'
He should be assessing the game at that time and deciding how we can change it instead of seemingly having pre-planned substitutions. It's all so pathetically predictable.
No, the man who plays him there. And then compensates by playing a number 10 on the wing is to blame
Disagree MC. You can change it halfway through and it work perfectly. Look at westbrom for instance.
We were unlucky today and did not deserve to lose 2-0. We nullified most of their game but could not find the net. One brilliant save from their keeper from Lukaku, otherwise 1-1. Garbutt was excellent. Yes this season's league is a write off and probably so is Martinez although I expect him to be given until October or November to produce a team challenging for the top 6. I said previously we need 3 wins plus a few draws from somewhere but again I cannot see many wins at all, so we may have to rely on maybe 1 win somewhere and 6 draws, and hope others do worse. If we lose at Stoke then start praying with 10 games left. If we go even close to going down then sack Martinez in May. 6 wins in 28 games is a disgrace.
Dave I broke my leg Whelan did say Roberto would take us places we wouldn't believe. Let's hope he didn't mean the Championship. We need some points in the bank pronto.
Yes that's not what I meant - apologies if unclear. I'm not blaming Barkley directly. That would be insane. It's our reliance on him or someone else to be a creative threat in that part of the pitch. But there are honourable mentions too for individual errors, confidence and poor fitness.
Although the possession game is frustrating, I still marginally prefer it over the panic button defending and clearing the lines crap we used to see from Moyes. I really hated that.
Dave I broke my leg Whelan did say Roberto would take us places we wouldn't believe. Let's hope he didn't mean the Championship. We need some points in the bank pronto.
The match day thread is fucking dire these days.
Indeed. If we were to get relegated under Roberto's watch then I doubt many top flight teams would even touch him with a barge pole afterwards.
Only saw the first half and didn't think we deserved to be 1-0 down. Lukaku needed to bury that chance just before the Arsenal goal. It's going to be a fight now.
It is sad how much we resemble Wigan this year. We make a lot of inexcusable individual errors and look increasingly confused in the final third.
Then he'd be manager of two teams that got relegated within three years. Even Neil Warnock never pulled that off. That's Paul Le Guen-level failure.
If he got us relegated, Martinez might have trouble getting a sniff from a League 1 club.
100th defeat to Arsenal apparently..... :eh:blame Roberto
Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.
I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.
Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.
I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.
Moyes' team lost 2-0 away to the 4th place side earlier today as well.
Nice bit of symmetry.
Do you work at the job centre? :)
The sad thing is if in some alternate universe Moyes managed us the rest of the season would anyone not be confident in an upturn in results? These players should be doing better.You could bring a Tony Pulis in if all you are looking to do is grind out enough results to stay up. Everywhere he's been, he's toughened up the back four and made them more difficult to beat. If you aren't conceding, there's always a chance of sneaking a few wins. Personally, I still think that Tim Howard's shitness this season has been a massive part of our problem. When teams attack us, I have no confidence in Howard being able to pull off a great save. The back four must be just as conscious of this too.
I'm not advocating a Moyes return, just this seems squarely a problem rooted in Martinez's approach. The thing that trips me up though is that it wasn't his approach last season. We actually played with 2 wingers for one thing. We didn't bottleneck the center of midfield and slow things down to a snails pace.
As much as I don't like to praise Rodgers, you have to look at how he's changed tactics this season and it paid dividends. Martinez in comparison comes across as some sort of tika taka zealot who is too stubborn to change his ways.
Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.
I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.
I think yobo2008 could do as well(or badly) as Martinez has this year.
Even though there was no threat we started the game well, lots of desire to win the ball it's just balancing out being solid and being able to attack, it's time to play Lennon on the Right and Mirallas on the left with Naismith and Lukaku upfront, I think we've ruined this entire season (outside of Europa League) by asking too much of players tactically, we look confused at times, I'd like to see us a bit more basic in league games just to match sides a bit more
I wouldnt give him anymore time or trust him with our transfer budget in the summer-hes not proved hes able to spend wisely....
Did you really just type about yourself in the third person?
Really?
Looks like it Shogs, love to see him try it though.
As for the game, as with most this season, I can't judge as I didn't see it but sadly I think the end may be coming for Roberto if the league form doesn't kick on. I don't want it to happen but that's the way football is these days, the bigger the TV deals get, the higher the level of expectation gets for teams like us, if there's failure then change is needed
Di Matteo would be one of my favourites.
Heavy shout, I know.
I'm starting to lose more and more faith
I didn't get to watch the match live today but just watched the highlights on match of the day. Highlight wise they seemed to play reasonably well with a few chances. But of course they didn't show the backwards and slow side passing movements, which I would think is causing the negative backlash type comments. Anyway bring on Stoke.
For the record, thesackrace.com has a list including the likes of Michael Laudrup, Laurent Blanc, Ralf Rangnick, Thomas Tuchel, Frank Rijkaard and Jurgen Klopp as well as donkeys like Hughes, Poyet, Lennon, O'Neill and Lambert
Wenger has had 20 years to build a style of play and we are moaning about Martinez after 1 year and a bit . Fact is we should have won that game yesterda
Honestly have no clue what you're all talking about. We played arsenal who'd won as man in a row at home as we had all season (more now) We matched them and on another day could have won. It's frustrating that we aren't scoring goals and winning games but we are playing quite well and we are a million times better than the shambles over christmas. We need this season over with and the next to start but im really not sure where the massive moans about performances are coming from
. Likewise the promised land is now looking someway off for WHU .
Honestly have no clue what you're all talking about. We played arsenal who'd won as man in a row at home as we had all season (more now) We matched them and on another day could have won. It's frustrating that we aren't scoring goals and winning games but we are playing quite well and we are a million times better than the shambles over christmas. We need this season over with and the next to start but im really not sure where the massive moans about performances are coming from