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Title: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: NewsBot on May 07, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Match Preview: Everton vs Sunderland

Squad news, statistics and more ahead of Saturday's lunch time match with Sunderland.
Source: Match Preview: Everton vs Sunderland (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2015/05/match-preview-everton-vs-sunderland/)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
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Everton FC v Sunderland AFC
Goodison Park
Saturday 9th May 12:45
Premier League Match #36

Everton - Last Five Matches

Everton 1-0 Southampton (Jagielka)
Swansea 1-1 Everton (Lennon)
Everton 1-0 Burnley (Mirallas)
Everton 3-0 Manchester United (McCarthy, Stones, Mirallas)
Aston Villa 3-2 Everton (Lukaku Pen, Jagielka)

Sunderland - Last Five Matches

West Ham 1-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 1-0 Newcastle (Defoe)
Sunderland 1-4 Crystal Palace (Wickham)
Stoke City 1-1 Sunderland (Wickham)
Sunderland 2-1 Southampton (Gomez Pen x2)


Everton

Everton's run of six matches without defeat came to an end last weekend after an away defeat at Villa Park. Everton conceded three goals against Aston Villa which is more than they conceded in the six matches during that unbeaten run (2). Everton have the opportunity to extend their 2015 unbeaten league run at Goodison Park to nine league matches should they avoid defeat on Saturday (W4 D4). Despite having three more assists than any other defender in the Premier League this season, Leighton Baines requires two more in order to match his tally from the 2010/11 season when he reached a total of 11 assists. Only Chelsea and Southampton (11) have managed to keep more clean sheets in Premier League home matches than the Toffees [8] this season.

Possible Line ups

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Sunderland

Sunderland are looking to record back to back victories for the first time this season after overcoming Southampton at the Stadium of Light last weekend. However, Sunderland have failed to win in any of their last eight away matches in the Premier League (D4 L4) and they're yet to win away from home in 2015. Dick Advocaat has taken more points from his first five matches (7) in charge of Sunderland than Gus Poyet accumulated in his final ten matches as manager. Connor Wickham is top scorer in the Premier League for Sunderland with 5 goals which is the lowest amount from a Premier League club's top scorer this season. Lee Cattermole has registered 13 yellow cards this season which is one fewer than the record for a Premier League season. Paul Ince (Wolves 2003/04), Robbie Savage (Leicester 2001/02), Mark Hughes (Southampton 1998/99) and this weekend's opponent's former midfielder Oliver Dacourt (Everton 1998/99) are the current holders of that title with 14 yellow cards.

Statistics & Injuries

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Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 07, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
"Sunderland have failed to win in any of their last eight away matches in the Premier League (D4 L4) and they're yet to win away from home in 2015..."


Yep yep yep...........(fart)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2015, 11:13:52 PM
"Sunderland have failed to win in any of their last eight away matches in the Premier League (D4 L4) and they're yet to win away from home in 2015..."


Yep yep yep...........(fart)

Last season, we'd gone unbeaten at home in 2013 and then we came up against Sunderland on boxing day...
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2015, 11:16:37 PM
Anyway, this could be a difficult game but I'd like to think Martinez will work out a way to win the match. There's nothing subtle about the way Sunderland are playing under Advocaat, they get the ball to the front three strikers as quickly as possible and hope it results in a goal so we'll need to work out a way to cope with that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 08, 2015, 02:03:44 AM
Last season, we'd gone unbeaten at home in 2015 and then we came up against Sunderland on boxing day...

Yeah, we're fucked.

Unless he plays the team/system that beat United like.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Confucius on May 08, 2015, 02:08:57 AM
can't see us losing this but if it means losing to get newcastle relegated I am all for it
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Eddie on May 08, 2015, 03:03:01 AM
85 title winning team (most of them) will be on the pitch at HT on Saturday. Might forgo my HT raspberry crabbies and pay my respects.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on May 08, 2015, 03:09:45 AM
85 title winning team (most of them) will be on the pitch at HT on Saturday. Might forgo my HT raspberry crabbies and pay my respects.

I'm meeting them all the Friday after anyway
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Eddie on May 08, 2015, 03:14:36 AM
I'm meeting them all the Friday after anyway

Is that at another Everton night?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 08, 2015, 08:11:08 PM
I'm meeting them all the Friday after anyway

Say 'awright' from me. Especially Reidy & Big Nev.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 08, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Will this be the week we finally break or duck on BT?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bluenuck on May 09, 2015, 12:27:26 PM
Sunderland will be coming for 3 points. it's as obvious as a brick to the face. Just like Villa were coming for 3 points last weekend.

This time it would be nice to see us ready for it.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
Didn't even know we were playing today.

Gonna miss it too.

Not even assed.

Top blooooo me
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 03:47:07 PM
"Sunderland have failed to win in any of their last eight away matches in the Premier League (D4 L4) and they're yet to win away from home in 2015..."

Yep yep yep...........(fart)
I'm waiting for inevitable commentary as a substitute comes on: "And here comes xxxxx who hasn't scored in 399 years.... Oh, he's only gone and done it!!!"
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
i'd go two up top, make the game open and go for goals. Fuck it, let's finish the season with a bit of swagger, and a late goal from Ryan Ledson to make it 5-2 to top it off.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 09, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
Last season, we'd gone unbeaten at home in 2013 and then we came up against Sunderland on boxing day...

Farcical game that was.


Our tickets are up for grabs again today, anyone close to the Runcorn area then feel free to come and get them. I'll swap them for a bevvy and a bag of Haribo's for the boy.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 04:18:42 PM
Earlier in the season, Sunderland's strike force was Jozy Altidore, Stephen Fletcher, Danny Graham and Connor Wickham.

Has there ever been a less prolific strike force than that shower of absolute unadulterated shite?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 09, 2015, 04:20:13 PM
Earlier in the season, Sunderland's strike force was Jozy Altidore, Stephen Fletcher, Danny Graham and Connor Wickham.

Has there ever been a less prolific strike force than that shower of absolute unadulterated shite?

Hello Balotelli, Borini, Sturridge, Lambert.........
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
Hello Balotelli, Borini, Sturridge, Lambert.........

lolol good point
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: everton1952 on May 09, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
There may not be many Sunderland fans, the M62 has been closed for a few hours both ways. My daughter has abandoned coming to the match from York. She is stuck on the motorway.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2015, 05:38:23 PM
they'll probably be more entertained on the motorway than at Goodison anyway

going to be a typical end of season bore fest
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2015, 05:49:05 PM
Is that our most attacking bench ever?

Good side, that side should have played last week
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
Is Lennon starting?  Making sure I don't have to change Prediction League.

And fuck me, somebody had to bring up 2013 Boxing Day.  Fucking Sunderland, man.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2015, 06:01:58 PM
Howard
Coleman Jagielka stones baines
Barry
Lennon Mccarthy Barkley osman
Lukaku
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: dazfrancis on May 09, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Good balance in that line up. What's happened to Pienaar though :-(
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
Good balance in that line up. What's happened to Pienaar though :-(
Not even on bench
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 06:08:41 PM
Pienaar's dead, but Ossie has risen.  I should go with Ossie as first scorer to be sentimental.  But gonna stick with Lennon.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
Streams people?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 06:28:29 PM
What a load of bollocks on BT claiming Sunderland have sold out the away section. They must have handed back the whole upper away section as there was still tickets available yesterday to home fans.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 06:32:03 PM
Streams people lol?????
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Tinga on May 09, 2015, 06:41:42 PM
Streams people lol?????


http://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/35du2q/match_thread_everton_fc_vs_sunderland/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/35du2q/match_thread_everton_fc_vs_sunderland/)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/35du2q/match_thread_everton_fc_vs_sunderland/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/35du2q/match_thread_everton_fc_vs_sunderland/)


Much appreciated fella! :)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Polledreng on May 09, 2015, 06:42:27 PM
Not even on bench
would be stupid putting injured players on the bench
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 09, 2015, 06:44:15 PM
Sexy stream here

http://www.101livesportsvideos.com/videos/soccer-everton-vs-sunderland-hd/ (http://www.101livesportsvideos.com/videos/soccer-everton-vs-sunderland-hd/)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
Sexy stream here

http://www.101livesportsvideos.com/videos/soccer-everton-vs-sunderland-hd/ (http://www.101livesportsvideos.com/videos/soccer-everton-vs-sunderland-hd/)

Oviedo is hosting a stream?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2015, 06:48:21 PM
A lot of empty seats today
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Pretty stuff there.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: dazfrancis on May 09, 2015, 06:53:18 PM
Have we ever won when we're on bt?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 06:58:41 PM
Shit, unlucky there.  x2
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: dazfrancis on May 09, 2015, 07:12:22 PM
Dull game
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Park End doing ironic ooo's at every Sunderland shot
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 07:15:01 PM
Defoe is still a dangerous player. We need to make sure he doesn't get a clear sight of goal. 
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 07:16:10 PM
Could be a long game unless we can find a way to score otherwise they're going to be happy to sit back for the whole game.

A test of our progress though...have we actually improved from earlier in the season or can we still not break teams down who sit deep and defend?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 07:17:37 PM
Not watching but judging by on here not much going on? Or is it just that everyone's stopped giving a shit.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
We've played alright, but all the half chances have pretty much fallen to Ossie, and his shots have only just about reached the keeper, let alone beaten him (although he's played well generally).
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 07:23:52 PM
Missing it due to work.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ari on May 09, 2015, 07:24:48 PM
Baines telling the kids a joke before taking the corner... good one Baines....... :)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: dazfrancis on May 09, 2015, 07:25:48 PM
We need our players who excel in tight spaces like Ossie and Baines on the ball as much as possible if we're to break these down
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: dazfrancis on May 09, 2015, 07:27:30 PM
Wtf? How did we not score there?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
More encouraging signs from Ross generally again. Good movement and use of the ball.

Niall Quinn is doing my fucking nut in.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 07:30:17 PM
Once we score which I think we will, it's going to be a good scoreline. Currently touching wood, crossing my fingers and all sorts of daft nonsense. ::)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
Lukaku's not keen on 50/50's with a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
Lukaku's not keen on 50/50's with a goalkeeper.

No, always seem to come off worse by not committing. Bit annoying.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
No, always seem to come off worse by not committing. Bit annoying.

It's as if he's trying to look like he's committing but in reality he's hanging back.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 07:34:54 PM
Predictable I suppose. Maybe play another striker up with Lukaku? I think we could afford to sacrifice one of our two DMs.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Danny on May 09, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
The passing in their 1/3 has been really crisp so that's something at least.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
Decent first half display really. Osman has had a couple of half chances as well as the best chance of the half which forced a decent save from Pantilimon. Barkley looks like he might be able to pull off a bit of magic and if Lukaku stops shitting out then he might have a chance. There's definitely the chance of a win in this for us.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 07:35:59 PM
On the positive side, what class by Aaron Lennon creating what should have been a beautiful goal from the broken up chance.  Had Ossie shot it anywhere other than.  Right.  At.  The.  Keeper.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 07:43:38 PM
I'm waiting for inevitable commentary as a substitute comes on: "And here comes xxxxx who hasn't scored in 399 years.... Oh, he's only gone and done it!!!"

Aye, the Guardian seem to be enjoying whats been on show so far.....

"They’re nearly opened up here, though. Osman has been brilliant today, and he nearly sets one up, then nearly scores one. He slides a ball down the inside-left channel for Lukaku, who looks to dink one over Pantilimon as he enters the area. The keeper saves brilliantly. The ball breaks to Osman to the right of the D. His shot is heading into the bottom right - but that one’s parried by the keeper too! Sheer brilliance by the keeper. Brown is booked for a disgraceful lunge on McCarthy in the middle of all that. Clumsy more than malicious, but he clanked the Everton midfielder’s standing leg. Ooyah, oof."

Poetic license?

Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2015, 07:44:57 PM
Best bit about the game so far has been the 85 team getting on the pitch at half time
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 07:46:15 PM
Lukaku's not keen on 50/50's with a goalkeeper.

You've got to give some credit to Pantilimon too, he has a huge frame and quick on his feet too.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
On the positive side, what class by Aaron Lennon creating what should have been a beautiful goal from the broken up chance.  Had Ossie shot it anywhere other than.  Right.  At.  The.  Keeper.

To be fair, there's not a lot you can do with those kinds of balls, just hit it low and hard at goal and hope no-one gets in the way.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 07:55:10 PM
typical
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 07:55:17 PM
Piss take.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
"Danny Graham has never scored for Sunderland."

Fucking inevitable.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 07:56:13 PM
Typical Everton that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: stirlingblue on May 09, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
You can only laugh really
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 07:56:44 PM
Oh, for fuck's sake. What a lazy header from Barry too.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: toffee_scot on May 09, 2015, 07:57:20 PM
Relegation threatened teams love playing us.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 07:57:28 PM
Typical that it happens to us. How many times do players that are on a bad run of form suddenly then manage to score their only goal of the season against us?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
My word. Never saw that coming.........etc.

Still win 5-1 though.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 07:58:31 PM
Typical that it happens to us. How many times do players that are on a bad run of form suddenly then manage to score their only goal of the season against us?

I've ran out of fingers & toes & counting instruments.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
Kev coming on.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
We look so disorganised.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 07:59:29 PM
That was some run.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 07:59:33 PM
All a bit half arsed now to say the least. Come on lads, give the fucking fans something back eh.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 07:59:56 PM
I hope Barry is off for Mirallas. Drop Barkley back if needed.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
Is Besic injured?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Craig_1878 on May 09, 2015, 08:03:09 PM
Have we still not won a game whilst on BT sports?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 08:03:15 PM
Earlier in the season, Sunderland's strike force was Jozy Altidore, Stephen Fletcher, Danny Graham and Connor Wickham.

Has there ever been a less prolific strike force than that shower of absolute unadulterated shite?

lolol called it
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Has Rom had a dodgy haircut.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 08:03:48 PM
I hope Barry is off for Mirallas. Drop Barkley back if needed.
Good call.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:05:21 PM
I hope Barry is off for Mirallas. Drop Barkley back if needed.

Wow. Martinez is reading the match thread :)
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:05:41 PM
Lose today and we will finish this season with our worst points total since 03-04, Moyes second season.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:06:01 PM
That would have been some goal
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
McFadden-esque!
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:07:16 PM
That would have been something.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
Come on Seamus I've got him in the prediction league.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
At least we're pushing. When this happened earlier in the season we never seemed to put sustained pressure on the opposition goal.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2015, 08:11:42 PM
Imagine if we could take corners.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 08:12:46 PM
Danny fucking Graham
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:14:23 PM
I mean how unlucky can we be
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:14:40 PM
Imagine if we could take corners.

Nirvana.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:14:50 PM
Fuck sake. Don't need any yellows.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:15:25 PM
Off the post...............can Garbutt take a corner?


14 to 1 in our favour so far.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:17:24 PM
On another day we could have had three or four.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: American Evertonian on May 09, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
Garbutt on for Baines. Our attempt to convince him to stay?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:17:58 PM
Great to see McCarthy trying to be direct with his running.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:18:08 PM
Garbutt on for Baines. Our attempt to convince him to stay?

Baines injured.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Polledreng on May 09, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
Off the post...............can Garbutt take a corner?


14 to 1 in our favour so far.
yes. The corner against Wolfsburg when Distin should have scores was the Best corner taken by Everton this season.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 08:18:16 PM
Good build up play all game, but we need other options when Lukaku is misfiring.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Come on Seamus I've got him in the prediction league.

I've got Lukaku as me captain.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:18:48 PM
Garbutt on for Baines. Our attempt to convince him to stay?



 ;)



Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: American Evertonian on May 09, 2015, 08:19:01 PM
Baines injured.

Makes more sense. I'm at work so only half paying attention.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
You know your club is shit when they make scarves saying "Sunderland We Believe In Miracles".
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:20:49 PM
Oh man.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 08:20:58 PM
We've played alright but it's just fucking grim to be losing at home to this absolute shower.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: American Evertonian on May 09, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
I know he was off-side but Lukaku needs to be finishing that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:22:44 PM
90% possession last five minutes.

9/10s of the law & all that......
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
We're still missing players like Pienaar. That is where we need to invest closed Season.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
90% possession last five minutes.

9/10s of the law & all that......
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:25:03 PM
Got to be a pen
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
We're still missing players like Pienaar. That is where we need to invest closed Season.

Every team gets injuries. We've not had too many recently. We still have more than enough talent on the pitch to be able to beat Sunderland.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
I blame the players. We've had more than enough possession and dangerous positions to be scoring 3 or 4. It's wasteful and half arsed.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: toffee_scot on May 09, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
I mean how unlucky can we be

We never seem to do well when we are playing on BT Sports.

Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on May 09, 2015, 08:26:58 PM
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
You have to laugh.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 08:27:27 PM
Two goals down without conceding a shot on target.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:27:33 PM
Joke
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:27:38 PM
Poor from Stones to lose it but they're still jammy fucking bastards.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Danny on May 09, 2015, 08:27:39 PM
The ref's having a fucking laugh here
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:27:51 PM
How fucking unbelievable is this.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
Dick Advocaat genius for a day.





Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:28:19 PM
Stones acting like a tart led to that one. Needs to cut that dribbling into danger shit out.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: toffee_scot on May 09, 2015, 08:28:38 PM
Looks like we've found another bogey team for Goodison
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:28:46 PM
Well, never mind.  :headbang:
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 09, 2015, 08:28:51 PM
Weve played well today. On another day we'd have won 5 nowt. Theyve scored 2 without ever really having a chance

Got to say while Lukaku has battled hard and never stopped hes been poor quality wise but least hes not stopped. We need this season over with now. Its been shit beginning to end
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 08:28:53 PM
Fucking hell how lucky can one team be haha
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Inchy on May 09, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
Oh FFS
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 08:29:09 PM
So many individual errors though leading to both goals. A fucking letdown, and not good enough. All this 'the players owe the fans a strong finish to the season' is just talk. Piss poor.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
I fucking hate Sunderland, the sooner they have back to back relegations the better.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:30:17 PM
Oh good. Another yellow. We can't even lose 2-0 to Sunderland without sabotaging our chances of getting into Europe.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
If you care about such things, a result like this could well send Newcastle down.

Doesn't give me any pleasure to be honest. This result epitomizes our season and underlines that really nothing has been fixed.

Not the way you want to go into the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:30:42 PM
Todays been like a sick joke. They are utter shite and jammy as fuck
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 08:30:47 PM
Just bailed Villa and Sunderland out of the shit in successive weeks. Anyone else need any points?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:30:59 PM
Fuck off Probert you weasel looking fuck.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 08:31:04 PM
On the plus side Newcastle are now more likely to be relegated.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Robbed here lads. Thank fuck the streams gone.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:31:58 PM
Just bailed Villa and Sunderland out of the shit in successive weeks. Anyone else need any points?

The Shite.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 08:32:11 PM
Not that bothered really, the season has been over for a while.

If the end result of getting beat by Villa and Sunderland is Newcastle going down then I'll take that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Tinga on May 09, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
Not sure how we've lost that today, honestly no idea.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
When did McGeady come on?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 08:33:15 PM
I fucking hate Sunderland, the sooner they have back to back relegations the better.

You hate everyone and everything.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: jongre123 on May 09, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
You hate everyone and everything.

He's scottish
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 09, 2015, 08:33:57 PM
Not that bothered really, the season has been over for a while.

If the end result of getting beat by Villa and Sunderland is Newcastle going down then I'll take that.

Just wish Pardew was still at that farce of a club when they dropped. Still you can't have it all.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: B3rry on May 09, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
Just bailed Villa and Sunderland out of the shit in successive weeks. Anyone else need any points?

yeah I feel it same... few nice highligts at p2p4u (http://p2p4u.tv/) ..  WH dont need points so maybe next round..
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 08:35:04 PM
Coleman has to be MOTM by a country mile. His crosses were a bit hit and miss but he was still the best player out there.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Heisenberg on May 09, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Even if they wasn't 'jammy' we'd have still only got a 0-0.

'on another day we'd have won', heard that to many times this season. All flare and no substance, not good enough.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:35:40 PM
You hate everyone and everything.

Unsurprising to see you back having hardly shown while we were on an undefeated run.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
We never had a chance anyway. BT Sport.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
Fuck off Everton
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Inchy on May 09, 2015, 08:37:31 PM
Total gash. And as for Defoe, get ta f***
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Inchy on May 09, 2015, 08:38:22 PM
Worst goals ever
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:39:13 PM
When did McGeady come on?

"McGeady comes on for Lennon." The Guardian


At least someone cared.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:39:56 PM
We have actually lost more league games this season than sunderland.  That is fucking terrible
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: toffee_scot on May 09, 2015, 08:39:59 PM
Always seems to happen with fucking Sunderland, every season its relegation battle after relegation battle, they are almost certain to go down then they get these kind of results.

Thank fuck though we are not playing Hull, Newcastle or Leicester next.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:40:33 PM
That result was a microcosm of our season.

Inability to score, not enough sustained pressure, some bad luck, cheap goals conceded, not enough creativity, individuals off the pace,  happy to retain possession but little cutting edge, poor set pieces, etc etc
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Thom on May 09, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
If there was ever a match that could be succinctly described as 'Football Manager-esque', it was that one.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:40:50 PM
Was with a relative who's a Sunderland fan at the weekend in Leets in Ormskirk. I'll have to get some sort of a buzz off him. I can't get any pleasure from that anywhere else. :bonk:
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Fern on May 09, 2015, 08:41:45 PM
Unsurprising to see you back having hardly shown while we were on an undefeated run.
Yeah despite the fact I've been here for a while and earlier today - I knew we'd lose today so I logged on. zzzz
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
Imagine eventually qualifying for the champions league only to have every game on BT Sport.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on May 09, 2015, 08:42:36 PM
RM seems completely clueless when we're behind in matches.

We build zero pressure when we're behind but look exposed when under pressure ourselves.

Last Feb was the last time we came from behind to win.

Only 3 points gained from losing positions this season and we've had plenty of chances to gain them.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
Yeah despite the fact I've been here for a while and earlier today - I knew we'd lose today so I logged on. zzzz

Good for you, give yourself another pat on the back.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:43:27 PM
Ah well at least the tories won
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:43:58 PM
Can I change my vote to "did I just see Aiden Mcgeady"? lolol
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: montanatoffeefan on May 09, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Always seems to happen with fucking Sunderland, every season its relegation battle after relegation battle, they are almost certain to go down then they get these kind of results.

Thank fuck though we are not playing Hull, Newcastle or Leicester next.

Was just thinking this....well, maybe not the Leicester part. But other than that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: montanatoffeefan on May 09, 2015, 08:45:21 PM
Is this the shortest Matchday thread ever?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 08:45:32 PM
Ah well, at least I have Pantilimon as me goalie.

Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:45:56 PM
RM seems completely clueless when we're behind in matches.

We build zero pressure when we're behind but look exposed when under pressure ourselves.

Last Feb was the last time we came from behind to win.

Only 3 points gained from losing positions this season and we've had plenty of chances to gain them.

I "liked" this post but I certainly don't like it at the same time...woeful and nothing changes.

Are we hoping the transfer window fixes out problems? As it seems like nothing else is going to.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
Is this the shortest Matchday thread ever?

Hmm...do you think so?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:49:15 PM
Think your right mate usually over 20 pages
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 08:49:46 PM
Our we hoping the transfer window fixes out problems? As it seems like nothing else is going to.

I doubt it. We've got the players who can fight and bring back games but we haven't got the organisation and tactics.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Think your right mate usually over 20 pages

Really...?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:50:18 PM
RM seems completely clueless when we're behind in matches.

We build zero pressure when we're behind but look exposed when under pressure ourselves.

Last Feb was the last time we came from behind to win.

Only 3 points gained from losing positions this season and we've had plenty of chances to gain them.




Yeah but he was the business last Season with his substitutions. Let's hope he gets first Season syndrome next Season
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: toffee_scot on May 09, 2015, 08:51:17 PM
Was just thinking this....well, maybe not the Leicester part. But other than that.

Yeah. Someday though I expect Sunderland will be put out of their misery, maybe next season or the season afterwards.

But if anyone is more pissed off with the result, it'll be the Geordies haha.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:51:40 PM
Fuck me owen is a complete boring prick. I hate bt sport
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
Ah well, at least I have Pantilimon as me goalie.






Stop it. lolol
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
Just a complete lack of professionalism. You can talk about luck, but if that was any of us playing that game in Sunday league or 5 aside, you wouldn't be talking about luck. You'd be saying 'they are and were shite, and it's pathetic on our part that we didn't beat them very comfortably'.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 09, 2015, 08:52:23 PM
That game was more or less the story of our season.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on May 09, 2015, 08:53:57 PM
I doubt it. We've got the players who can fight and bring back games but we haven't got the organisation and tactics.

Sadly I agree. I do think we are falling short in a couple of positions though. Lennon has been an improvement over our options on the right during most of the season...but is he the solution to breaking down these sort of teams?

Likewise I like Barkley but think he'd be better off driving forward from deeper right now and having a different option up with Lukaku.

We also looked instantly better with Pienaar in the mix too.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: AllyBlue14 on May 09, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
I thought I wanted Villa to go down after last week but at least they have something like a history. Sunderland is a nothing club, they were pathetic today and whilst we lacked the same penetration we have all season, the time-wasting, persistent fouling & referee's blatant bias have made me far more angry than I probably should be.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blue slug on May 09, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
Mcmanaman is actually talking some sense saying that when teams sit back against us our players start taking to many touches and pass sideways and backwards and slowing the game down
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Silas on May 09, 2015, 08:58:09 PM
It was just all so dull
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 09, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
Will the last one please turn off the lights.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Heisenberg on May 09, 2015, 09:00:37 PM
Looks like I'm the only one here who likes sunderland? Fans always seem sound

And they hate Newcastle which helps
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: montanatoffeefan on May 09, 2015, 09:01:17 PM
Ah well at least the tories won

Is that Chelsea's new nickname then?
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: whirlwind82 on May 09, 2015, 09:01:44 PM
How many times did our players, Barkley especially, have the ball 20 yards or so out and not take the shot on?? It bugs the shit out of me especially when teams are just camped back and we try pass through them or aim it out wide. Its like they have been told not to shoot unless its a golden chance. Was only when Mirallas came on that anyone seemed to try and have a pop.

Also, Im one of Lukakus biggest fans but my god was his forward play awful today.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2015, 09:01:45 PM
Looks like I'm the only one here who likes sunderland? Fans always seem sound

And they hate Newcastle which helps

They love liverpool so that makes me hate them more.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: montanatoffeefan on May 09, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Mcmanaman is actually talking some sense saying that when teams sit back against us our players start taking to many touches and pass sideways and backwards and slowing the game down

Up until a month ago, that's what we did against every team and defensive tactic.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2015, 09:05:16 PM
Remember when we attacked with width....... Ah the good days
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
They love liverpool so that makes me hate them more.

I don't know where you get this from, they really don't.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
These 'at least Newcastle are goin down lol' shouts are doing my head in.

I'd rather we won our last 2 games and Newcastle stayed up tbh.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Anichebe.

Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2015, 09:44:01 PM
I was pleased with Lennon, he seemed to be the only one who balanced quality with workrate today.

Now, excuse me while I beat my head into the wall for the next hour or so.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Lxxx on May 09, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
Normal service resumed past two games. No tempo but our possession stats were impressive, I bet Martinez will crack open a nice bottle of red tonight.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 09, 2015, 09:46:41 PM
These 'at least Newcastle are goin down lol' shouts are doing my head in.

I'd rather we won our last 2 games and Newcastle stayed up tbh.



LOL
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2015, 09:46:55 PM
These 'at least Newcastle are goin down lol' shouts are doing my head in.

I'd rather we won our last 2 games and Newcastle stayed up tbh.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2015, 09:49:25 PM
I don't know where you get this from, they really don't.

I know a couple of sunderland fans and they told me. The majority see them as their second team. Hate Everton etc. met a sunderland fan in Paris last year who said the same. im just going off that.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 09:49:49 PM
These 'at least Newcastle are goin down lol' shouts are doing my head in.

I'd rather we won our last 2 games and Newcastle stayed up tbh.

It's called a silver lining.

I'd rather we lost our last 2 games and Newcastle went down rather than losing out last 2 games and Newcastle staying up.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Simon Paul on May 09, 2015, 09:54:55 PM
I'd rather have done what the lads who normally sit next to me did today and not gone

The icing on the cake was them chanting songs for Adam Johnson - and not the ones Newcastle fans sing, which are funny, and accurate
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
My god that was pure shite. Surprise surprise I come on here and find out people think we played well, unlucky etc etc.

I don't want to talk about Sunderland because this result was all about us.

Barkley and Lukaku were the stand out shite today. Finding it difficult to give them 1/10 scores. But I blame Martinez who tactically can't come up with the answers I'm afraid. There was no space to play yet it was back to this UNBEARABLE slow passing from players are simply are not good enough technically to pull off the type of game that Martinez refuses to accept we can't play.  And the zero movement from front players also directly prevents us from being able to open up play. A creative attacking player with skill and technical ability is an absolute number one priority this summer - someone who will be a first choice as well until Barkley is ready because he has looked completely lost all season and I actually feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Lxxx on May 09, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
He must have watched Barcelona midweek and got all excited so it was back to Plan A again. When will the penny drop? We all thought it had.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: everton1952 on May 09, 2015, 10:26:37 PM
Their manager was completely honest and said Everton were far better than Sunderland but they kept their defensive formation and grabbed two fluke goals. It's hardly new that we don't have any creative players with the ability or nous to break down mass defences. Coleman was mom for me. I don't blame Lukaku for his lack of effectiveness, the centre back had a blinder playing Rom out of the game. Our creative pair Barkley and Osman gave average performances, but hell that is what they are just average players who occasionally have a good game. We need to spend big otherwise we will spend next season hanging around  mid table.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Polledreng on May 09, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
It's called a silver lining.

I'd rather we lost our last 2 games and Newcastle went down rather than losing out last 2 games and Newcastle staying up.
That made me laugh
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blueski on May 09, 2015, 10:47:58 PM
How many times did our players, Barkley especially, have the ball 20 yards or so out and not take the shot on??
true but other games we've seen them take those shots on and they just cannon into the first man
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on May 09, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
They were so lucky, not only to win but how their goals went in.

All we needed was a break to go our way and score and we would have hammered them.

73% possession, 15-1 corners and 22 shots says a lot considering we aren't desperate for points.

One of them days.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: blob on May 09, 2015, 11:02:33 PM
muuged, but our own fault for repeatedly going down the same road.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
They were so lucky, not only to win but how their goals went in.

All we needed was a break to go our way and score and we would have hammered them.

73% possession, 15-1 corners and 22 shots says a lot considering we aren't desperate for points.

One of them days.

Bastards knew our weakness.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2015, 11:46:31 PM

They were so lucky, not only to win but how their goals went in.

All we needed was a break to go our way and score and we would have hammered them.

73% possession, 15-1 corners and 22 shots says a lot considering we aren't desperate for points.

One of them days.

No it wasn't 'one of them days', it was a day like we have seen pretty much all season. A day where we are simply not good enough to break teams down. A day when we play the same style of slow passes back, across, forward, back again. We did not batter them at all except we won the stats. How many genuine very good goal scoring opportunities did we create today?  One shot off the post?  That was it. 
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
How do you play fast, direct, vertical football against a team with 9 players in two lines within 30 yards of their own goal?

You can't.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: ally2 on May 10, 2015, 12:00:55 AM

How do you play fast, direct, vertical football against a team with 9 players in two lines within 30 yards of their own goal?

You can't.

A first step might be to acknowledge that by knocking it around pointlessly at the back isn't going to fool the opposition into coming forward or initiate the possibility that they might suddenly forget their tactical plan. The next step would be to ask your wide players to stretch the pitch. The next step would be to ask for more fluid and dynamic movement from your players so that the opposition are given problems in passing players on.

Of course it would help to practice this in training. It's just that we've had the same problem all season and not learnt anything.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Lxxx on May 10, 2015, 12:12:50 AM
If Lukaku gets out of bed the right side we piss this game. We had more than enough possession in the right areas but the  focal point of our attack was shite.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Dafydd on May 10, 2015, 12:17:08 AM
If Lukaku gets out of bed the right side we piss this game. We had more than enough possession in the right areas but the  focal point of our attack was shite.
He seemed to have two Sunderland defenders on him a lot of the time, but he should never have missed that header in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Toddacelli on May 10, 2015, 12:22:57 AM
Remember when we attacked with width....... Ah the good days

Loves a bit of width, does our Jimmy...
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Major Clanger on May 10, 2015, 12:26:02 AM
My god that was pure shite. Surprise surprise I come on here and find out people think we played well, unlucky etc etc.

I think there are two things going on here in parallel.

The way the goals went in, that was very unlucky. What led up to them however was not.
The penalty decision and McCarthy hitting the post was unlucky. That we failed to score anyway was not.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: ally2 on May 10, 2015, 12:36:16 AM

I think there are two things going on here in parallel.

The way the goals went in, that was very unlucky. What led up to them however was not.
The penalty decision and McCarthy hitting the post was unlucky. That we failed to score anyway was not.

This is right. Of course we were very unlucky with the goals conceded, that's not in question. But I would argue with anyone singling out John Stones on the second goal as 'overplaying'. I really hate this criticism. There's a bloke near me who shouts at the team every time they try something different and it doesn't work. We were chasing the game at the time. And to be perfectly honest, the only players who tried to actually get past a player today were Stones and Coleman. Oh sorry Barkley did once in the first half too.  And people wonder why we couldn't score.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: Gash on May 10, 2015, 01:11:09 AM
No it wasn't 'one of them days', it was a day like we have seen pretty much all season. A day where we are simply not good enough to break teams down. A day when we play the same style of slow passes back, across, forward, back again. We did not batter them at all except we won the stats. How many genuine very good goal scoring opportunities did we create today?  One shot off the post?  That was it. 

Osman had two or three decent chances, Coleman was unlucky a couple of times and possibly should have had a penalty, Lukaku had two decent chances but backed off against the keeper and he also managed to shoulder the ball wide from 7 yards out. It wasn't great today but it wasn't nearly as bad as some of the shite that was served up earlier in the season.  We played some nice stuff even in to the final third, there was a couple of times in the first half where we played some really nice one touch stuff around the box.

It was more a performance from one team just happy to see the back of the season and the other team doing their annual get out of jail. If any of our chances had fallen we'd have probably won by two or three, even Advocaat admitted that they were lucky and we were the better team.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 10, 2015, 01:30:43 AM
Swings & roundabouts. We lost to Sunderland.

Was Villa last week.

Roll on the Spurs game so we can all wave farewell to a season to forget.
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: bluenuck on May 10, 2015, 03:22:47 AM
I get it. I do. We want the season over with about 4 months ago... But could we come out and maybe have a little killer instinct against a shite team? Just a little? Please!? At home, too?

We score that 1st goal and we win that game. But we dick around with it, and inevitably wait for the fluke goal to go against us, and all of a sudden we turn the light bulb on.

It bugs me that our attacking game has to wait for us to go down a goal before it really wakes up.

Sigh.... Whatever....  :cheers:
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: pjk on May 10, 2015, 08:52:06 AM
I get it. I do. We want the season over with about 4 months ago... But could we come out and maybe have a little killer instinct against a shite team? Just a little? Please!? At home, too?

We score that 1st goal and we win that game. But we dick around with it, and inevitably wait for the fluke goal to go against us, and all of a sudden we turn the light bulb on.

It bugs me that our attacking game has to wait for us to go down a goal before it really wakes up.

Sigh.... Whatever....  :cheers:



Well! you are an evertonian. And don't start, I'm probably older than you?  ;D
Title: Re: [News]Match Preview/Match Day Thread: Everton vs Sunderland
Post by: cjohno100 on May 10, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
good job teams we needed to win years ago to stop us getting relegated had some balls or we would be in the championship now, most gutless team ive seen in years, yesterday was shockingly bad. ignore me im pissed and disappointed lol :(