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Title: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2015, 02:13:34 AM
Agents a beaut
Whats a fair price?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-willing-sell-romelu-10349393
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Shogun on October 29, 2015, 02:16:45 AM
Yeah, none of that happened.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blue slug on October 29, 2015, 02:28:40 AM
Raiola even manages to give agents a bad name
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 02:29:01 AM
He's only saying what we all know.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Simon Paul on October 29, 2015, 02:29:06 AM
His agents a proper tit isn't he
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2015, 02:30:05 AM
He's only saying what we all know.
I had no idea that is willing to sell him.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: BlueWool on October 29, 2015, 02:32:23 AM
Thick, loud- mouthed cunt. He could be a little over-qualified for his profession.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 02:35:46 AM
I had no idea that is willing to sell him.

This isn't Stones who came as an unproven kid and has progressed. This is someone who took a step down to get more game time then progress back onto the next level. He was always very open about that and it was always the plan.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Everton Mint on October 29, 2015, 02:38:25 AM
40m to PSG... might take that.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 02:42:38 AM
40m is a fair price. Not sure I trust the manager to spend it like.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluedylan on October 29, 2015, 02:45:43 AM
40m is a fair price. Not sure I trust the manager to spend it like.

In fairness he spent it on Rom in the first place, who we'd pretty much all agree will be worth more than we bought him for when he leaves, and depending on form and interest, perhaps significantly more.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2015, 02:48:54 AM
I'd rather keep lukaku than martinez at the moment
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bluestevie on October 29, 2015, 02:51:09 AM
Yeah I highly doubt Martinez said anything of the sort nor would be stupid enough to sell Rom in January anyway
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on October 29, 2015, 02:57:45 AM
Nah, he said it.

He's a manager, he has to say a lot of things to just keep people happy.

Not a chance he actually meant it though.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 02:58:10 AM
In fairness he spent it on Rom in the first place, who we'd pretty much all agree will be worth more than we bought him for when he leaves, and depending on form and interest, perhaps significantly more.
That wasn't really a gamble though. We'd had him a year, knew he was a 20 goal a season striker and knew he'd only improve with age. It was a bit of a no brainer, if the money was made available.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 29, 2015, 03:02:39 AM
Agents are just mouth pieces for the players. If he's trying to get Lukaku a move its not against his will
Saying that I don't much care. Everton aren't anyonea dream. So long as we get what we need to improve then they are all for sale. I do seriously doubt if Lukaku's at the stage where he should be rocking the boat though. Very few major clubs would be remotely interested. Possibly none at what we'd consider a fair price and even if he got himself to say PSG. They certainly wouldn't be picking him if he had 1 of his all to frequent bad spells
At present he's simply not good enough to play for a top team
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on October 29, 2015, 03:05:33 AM
I'd imagine when we signed rom it would have been on the basis if a really good team comes in for a price we are happy with he can go, nothing wrong with that. If he does well enough to get one of those moves and we make a good profit then sad but not surprising.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blargins on October 29, 2015, 03:45:13 AM
He'd be fantastic at PSG.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on October 29, 2015, 03:54:20 AM
40 zillion
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Zoolander on October 29, 2015, 03:56:58 AM
Said agent can refer to John Stones, right price, right time or do one
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on October 29, 2015, 04:08:40 AM
Zlatan likely to leave next summer psg will definitely be in the market for a forward. If he is going to go anywhere would be a good place to sell him to given he'd be out of the league and could definitely get a good deal out of them.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Cassius on October 29, 2015, 04:11:16 AM
I wouldn't begrudge him going to a club in the Champions League and prefer for it to not be in England.

I don't want him to go though and he'll be difficult to replace.

Imagine the fume if we sold him for 40m and replaced him with Charlie Austin.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on October 29, 2015, 04:31:40 AM
I can see it now,

Lukaku to PSG

Anichebe will be Pulis' first signing for us

<tongue in cheek>

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Hawkandro on October 29, 2015, 04:34:07 AM
He'd be fantastic at PSG.

He'd be fantastic under any manager who would play to his strengths.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 29, 2015, 05:04:23 AM
Said agent can refer to John Stones, right price, right time or do one

VERY important how we set a precedent about not being bullied.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Shogun on October 29, 2015, 05:08:09 AM
PSG fans don't think Ibra is good enough for them, I doubt Lukaku would be well received.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blargins on October 29, 2015, 05:25:02 AM
PSG fans are clueless.

He'd do well in France because the league is shit and PSG are the best club there.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2015, 05:27:28 AM
Psg are ten years older than me
Who the fuck they think they are?

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Fern on October 29, 2015, 05:37:12 AM
I'd rather keep lukaku than martinez at the moment

Have to agree wit that. What other young strikers with potential are out there by the way?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Heisenberg on October 29, 2015, 02:35:27 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluedylan on October 29, 2015, 02:58:48 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player

It wouldn't mate. You've had a bit of a shocker there. If he was English his value would be even higher. And there's no way that a player with his goalscoring record, at his age, with a premium on strikers, would go for 10-15m or anywhere remotely close to that.

Thank fuck you're not working in our transfer department.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2015, 03:01:46 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player
So he'd be rated at less than Charlie Austin who plays in the championship? Ok then
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on October 29, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
It wouldn't mate. You've had a bit of a shocker there. If he was English his value would be even higher. And there's no way that a player with his goalscoring record, at his age, with a premium on strikers, would go for 10-15m or anywhere remotely close to that.

Thank fuck you're not working in our transfer department.

honestly, no point even replying to him on that comment.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 05:49:29 PM
This kind of symbolises the feeling around the club at the moment. Whether it's true or not people around the club can see it's just drifting. Best young players/agents wanting them out, manager delivering boring football, talk of takeovers which don't go anywhere, ground moves that don't seem to go anywhere, boos at home games, listless performances... Who could blame Lukaku, really, for wanting out.

The flip side is it could all be so different. We have the best squad in a generation and we could be lighting up the Premier League, which in turn inspires a buzz around the club and then things start to happen off the picth, with the increased positive exposure. I know it's been said on another topic but the man in the centre of all this who can be instrumental in it going either way is Martinez. Massive next half a dozen games.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 29, 2015, 05:55:23 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player

HE isn't trying to be a target man, Martinez sets the team up so if its isolating Rom then how is that Roms fault?

How you can actually believe that he is worth less than Austin, for example, is lunacy. He is 21/22, he has the best goal scoring record for his age, he has shown time and time again that with the right set up, for his strengths, he can be incredible.

I don't understand how you cant see that?!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 29, 2015, 06:07:44 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player

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Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluenose 91 on October 29, 2015, 06:31:04 PM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

He's trying to be a target man and he's Piss poor at it, we will do better with the money we get for him. Can't do the basics and technically awful. Will never be a top player

Struggling to think of the last thing you posted that wasn't absolute raw shite.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 29, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
HE isn't trying to be a target man, Martinez sets the team up so if its isolating Rom then how is that Roms fault?

How you can actually believe that he is worth less than Austin, for example, is lunacy. He is 21/22, he has the best goal scoring record for his age, he has shown time and time again that with the right set up, for his strengths, he can be incredible.

I don't understand how you cant see that?!

I like Lukaku and I wouldn't sell him but he isolates himself . He has a habit of not anticipating passes often enough and is too often static or off side . Both criticisms are fair and are errors in his game he should be able to eradicate . Merely showing where you want the ball and then putting your hand over your mouth when you scuff it isn't good enough . His age has fuck all to do with it . His capacity to learn and improve have everything to do with it . That said he has a goalscoring record ( at the minute at least ) which given the current market means we wouldn't lose out on him if we sell him prematurely .
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: smellybum on October 29, 2015, 07:15:14 PM
If a decent offer came in and we had somebody lined up then why not?
We just don't play to Rom's strengths. That is plain and simple to see so we need somebody who can play the role Martinez wants. So to keep Rom we either need to change tactics or Martinez needs to go. Upshot is I honestly think Rom will not be here next season. As for the Charlie Austin shouts, would we really be worse off with him? I don't think so, if anything he plays the role better than Rom. Now not saying Ausitn is a better player but he is better at what doing the job Martinez wants to see Rom do. 40m for Rom. Austin on a free (5m singning bonus. Guesstimate) Frees up 35m for a playmaker and maybe another acquisition. Makes sense to me.
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Post by: Alex6691 on October 29, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
I don't know about Austin at QPR but my mates a Burnley fan and he said Austin does absolutely not play well up top by himself in that role. Needs another striker up front if he's going be in that role.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: minty on October 29, 2015, 07:37:53 PM
This kind of symbolises the feeling around the club at the moment. Whether it's true or not people around the club can see it's just drifting. Best young players/agents wanting them out, manager delivering boring football, talk of takeovers which don't go anywhere, ground moves that don't seem to go anywhere, boos at home games, listless performances... Who could blame Lukaku, really, for wanting out.

The flip side is it could all be so different. We have the best squad in a generation and we could be lighting up the Premier League, which in turn inspires a buzz around the club and then things start to happen off the picth, with the increased positive exposure. I know it's been said on another topic but the man in the centre of all this who can be instrumental in it going either way is Martinez. Massive next half a dozen games.

I think we have too many youngsters with potential and too many players who are on the decline. I really don't think we have our best squad of the last few years in terms of current ability. So maybe our expectations of lighting up the league are unrealistic.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: starblood on October 29, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Lukaku works miracles getting the goals that he does with the service that he gets.

We all know he lacks a decent first touch and his hold-up play could be a lot better, but the accusation of him getting isolated has got to be levelled at Roberto not Rom. He's the pinpoint of our attack, so if he is isolated then it is down to the midfield not pushing up to support him. I for one don't want my sole striker and only goal threat coming deep into midfield areas (which is what he has to do at times).

And on a final note, he signed for us after that first season. It has all gone to pieces since then, so he's been sold a bit of a pup as it stands. Who'd blame him for moving on - not me for sure whilst we're playing such dirge football.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: di_guyo on October 29, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
40m? More than fair...
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 29, 2015, 08:31:11 PM
I think we have too many youngsters with potential and too many players who are on the decline. I really don't think we have our best squad of the last few years in terms of current ability. So maybe our expectations of lighting up the league are unrealistic.
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I would suggest our squad compares more than favourably with our peers (Liverpool, Tottenham) and better than teams like West Ham, Leicester, Southampton, Palace. The issue is we don't have a manager who can get the best out of them so the sum becomes less than the value of it's parts.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: minty on October 29, 2015, 08:55:19 PM


I would suggest our squad compares more than favourably with our peers (Liverpool, Tottenham) and better than teams like West Ham, Leicester, Southampton, Palace. The issue is we don't have a manager who can get the best out of them so the sum becomes less than the value of it's parts.

Oh yeah i meant to add that it's possible the standard of those around is weaker too compared to what they had 3-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: kramer0 on October 29, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
I can't see Rom leaving mid-season but, if our performances don't improve, I can see him leaving in the summer. I'm a big fan of his and would hate to see him go but I do love to speculate about transfers. Here goes nothing.

1. Michy Batshuayi (Marseille) - We've been linked before and he's been excellent both as a sub (last season) and as a starter (this season) for Marseille.

2. Charlie Austin (QPR) - He's already been mentioned here and rightfully so. He scored plenty in the PL last season and his underlying numbers (shots, conversion rate) suggest that his performance is sustainable. It's a bit surprising that he's still in the Championship.

3. Andrej Kramaric (Leicester) - He's had a hard time getting into Leicester's team so I'm sure this idea will be met with plenty of opposition but every time I've seen him, his movement, touch, vision, and ability to create space for a shot has been excellent. I think he could be a steal if we put a little faith in him. Chelsea were interested before he signed for Leicester.

4. Benik Afobe (Wolves) - Ex-Arsenal youth and probably the biggest wild card of the bunch. I haven't seen a lot of him outside of his excellent and opportunistic performance for MK Dons against Manchester United last season (United were shambolic at the back so it's hard to extrapolate too much from that game) but he's been scoring goals regularly in League One and the Championship and, if you believe in WhoScored stats (I'm not completely sure I do), he's a good passer as well.

Once again, I am pro-Lukaku and I don't think any of these players would necessarily improve on him. But we can replace some/most of his production (and pocket a little money) if he does decide to go.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: sirblue57 on October 29, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
If a decent offer came in and we had somebody lined up then why not?
We just don't play to Rom's strengths. That is plain and simple to see so we need somebody who can play the role Martinez wants. So to keep Rom we either need to change tactics or Martinez needs to go. Upshot is I honestly think Rom will not be here next season. As for the Charlie Austin shouts, would we really be worse off with him? I don't think so, if anything he plays the role better than Rom. Now not saying Ausitn is a better player but he is better at what doing the job Martinez wants to see Rom do. 40m for Rom. Austin on a free (5m singning bonus. Guesstimate) Frees up 35m for a playmaker and maybe another acquisition. Makes sense to me.

so your happy to get rid of a top quality striker, and replace him with a lesser player, to suit the manager? fuck that, get a manager who can actually get the best out of quality players.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: GLewis on October 29, 2015, 10:01:15 PM
so your happy to get rid of a top quality striker, and replace him with a lesser player, to suit the manager? fuck that, get a manager who can actually get the best out of quality players.

But in this case this manager has bought this striker.

It's not as though he's inherited him and there's not a natural fit.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: smellybum on October 29, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
so your happy to get rid of a top quality striker, and replace him with a lesser player, to suit the manager? fuck that, get a manager who can actually get the best out of quality players.

Not what I said. Read it back.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: cantoffee on October 30, 2015, 05:11:54 AM
You could see clearly in the Arsenal game the big difference in difficulty playing for us vs playing for a team like Arsenal.

Every time the ball went up to Giroud, someone was within 5 yards of him. If he couldn't bring the ball down, he could at least try to knock it down or flick it on.

Every time it went up to Lukaku there was no support within 20 yards of him. It's ludicrous to expect any player to bring the ball down and hold it up consistently when he has 2 players draped all over him.

He has all the talent and we need to do a better job of supporting him. At the very least, if we can get more out of him his price tag will be closer to 50m.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on October 30, 2015, 06:12:42 AM
You could see clearly in the Arsenal game the big difference in difficulty playing for us vs playing for a team like Arsenal.

Every time the ball went up to Giroud, someone was within 5 yards of him. If he couldn't bring the ball down, he could at least try to knock it down or flick it on.

Every time it went up to Lukaku there was no support within 20 yards of him. It's ludicrous to expect any player to bring the ball down and hold it up consistently when he has 2 players draped all over him.

He has all the talent and we need to do a better job of supporting him. At the very least, if we can get more out of him his price tag will be closer to 50m.


Thats one of my big frustrations at the moment. We are trying to play out from the back but teams are stopping us. We arent moving it quickly and dont have enough options so there are times we play it long to rom, however we dont setup for that option with the rest of the team. When we did it with fellaini in 2012/13 the diagonal ball from Jags to his chest worked brilliantly, not just because felli could bring it down really well but because when the ball went to him he'd have the forward making runs in behind, he'd have pienaar coming for the lay off, who'd have baines going down the outside of him and someone like Ossie for instance in support to help the move as well.

No matter how good someone is at holding the ball up, and rom is hit and miss, they need as many options as they can quickly so they can release the ball and get the move going. Right now our options seem to be lacking and none more so than when the ball is going in to rom.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jamokachi on October 30, 2015, 08:24:34 AM
Newspaper in "every  player has their price" shocker.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Alex6691 on October 30, 2015, 12:18:29 PM
Shouts for Charlie Austin to replace Lukaku? I've heard it all.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
Shouts for Charlie Austin to replace Lukaku? I've heard it all.

We might not have much choice.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: dchans on October 30, 2015, 02:10:36 PM
How much would Giroud cost? Not that I am saying we would be anywhere near able to get him, just interested to see what his fair price would be!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 30, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
How much would Giroud cost? Not that I am saying we would be anywhere near able to get him, just interested to see what his fair price would be!
Add an extra 5m cos he is a good looking bastard
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheTone on October 30, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
we'll go with what we've got  :whistle:

p.s. fuck off Giroud you prick
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 02:36:19 PM
We might not have much choice.

100% this. Look at how easily we bent over for Chelsea in the summer and gave Stones away for a pittance.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blue slug on October 30, 2015, 03:02:07 PM
I think what Lxxx means is that IF the everton hierarchy and Martinez have a verbal agreement in place to let him speak with champions league clubs if a fair offer of X amount is offered then we don't really have a choice
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 03:11:49 PM
I think what Lxxx means is that IF the everton hierarchy and Martinez have a verbal agreement in place to let him speak with champions league clubs if a fair offer of X amount is offered then we don't really have a choice

I'm pretty sure that means it is 100% our choice.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: charlatan on October 30, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Add an extra 5m cos he is a good looking bastard

I think Ram would jizz his kecks if Giroud came here
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 30, 2015, 03:19:51 PM
The question for me is. Would any other team play Rom the way RM does? I think they'd keep it low and in front for him to run on to. He can't control a high ball that well imo because his first touch is poor generally. Ian Rush was a master class in the best way to play him.. Through balls played to his strengths.
Rom's off if he feels he's being frustrated in his development.. couldn't blame him really.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 03:24:08 PM

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100% this. Look at how easily we bent over for Chelsea in the summer and gave Stones away for a pittance.

I think most fans realise Stones and Lukaku and their respective situations are different.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 30, 2015, 03:31:33 PM
I think Ram would jizz his kecks if Giroud came here

so would i.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
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I think most fans realise Stones and Lukaku and their respective situations are different.

Both amongst the best young prospects in their positions in Europe.

Both proven performers in the Premier League.

Both apparently sought after by Europe's finest.

Both at a club with no need to sell.

Both seem to have an agent making moves in the background.

Only one has requested a transfer.

If anything we are in a weaker position with Stones considering he's actually handed in a transfer request. So have a seat, breathe and stop stressing at every little detail, man. Your days must feel a month long with the amount of stressing you do.

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 30, 2015, 03:41:47 PM

breathe and stop


For real and tell me what you got

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
Both amongst the best young prospects in their positions in Europe.

Both proven performers in the Premier League.

Both apparently sought after by Europe's finest.

Both at a club with no need to sell.

Both seem to have an agent making moves in the background.

Only one has requested a transfer.

If anything we are in a weaker position with Stones considering he's actually handed in a transfer request. So have a seat, breathe and stop stressing at every little detail, man. Your days must feel a month long with the amount of stressing you do.



One arrived here for a small fee as a relative unknown and has progressed to a top player.

The other arrived here for an astronomical fee, taking a step down to get more game time before rejoining a 'top club' (his words).

Massive difference. 
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
One arrived here for a small fee as a relative unknown and has progressed to a top player.

The other arrived here for an astronomical fee, taking a step down to get more game time before rejoining a 'top club' (his words).

Massive difference. 

Not seeing how their past has much to do with it. Deal in the present and look to the future, man.

Thought of another for you. Both worth 40m+ in the current climate.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
Not seeing how their past has much to do with it. Deal in the present and look to the future, man.

Thought of another for you. Both worth 40m+ in the current climate.

How they got here has everything to do with it.

Lukaku took a step down to come here to play games before rejoining a club more befitting of his self-given status as a striker at a 'top club.' That will have been made clear during any joining discussions and it's pretty naive to think otherwise. We also paid 28m for him. We can't conceivably turn down 'fair offers' while his contract runs down. He isn't going to sign any contract extension while we're 11th in the league and isolating him every game. He is an expensive asset that needs to be recouped at some stage. Not necessarily within the next 12 months but he does have a bellend of an agent.

Stones we signed for buttons, gave him his big break and a long, lucrative contract so we hold all the cards.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
How they got here has everything to do with it.

Lukaku took a step down to come here to play games before rejoining a club more befitting of his self-given status as a striker at a 'top club.' That will have been made clear during any joining discussions and it's pretty naive to think otherwise. We also paid 28m for him. We can't conceivably turn down 'fair offers' while his contract runs down. He isn't going to sign any contract extension while we're 11th in the league and isolating him every game. He is an expensive asset that needs to be recouped at some stage. Not necessarily within the next 12 months but he does have a bellend of an agent.

Stones we signed for buttons, gave him his big break and a long, lucrative contract so we hold all the cards.

I said look to the future, not tell me how it's going to end. You might want to spoiler tag this post mate.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 05:01:06 PM
I said look to the future, not tell me how it's going to end. You might want to spoiler tag this post mate.

Ditto with your previous couple.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 05:03:17 PM
Ditto with your previous couple.

Couple of what?

EDIT: Nice edit, I saw what you wrote initially!

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
Couple of what?

EDIT: Nice edit, I saw what you wrote initially!



Which said?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 05:13:40 PM
That is what I initially wrote, it just posted twice.
Which said?

Don't try that one with me. This isn't my first rodeo. I saw it, and I'll never forget it.

(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/craigeverton/DqHg1X0_zps7o1kuqz5.gif) (http://s802.photobucket.com/user/craigeverton/media/DqHg1X0_zps7o1kuqz5.gif.html)
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Don't try that one with me. This isn't my first rodeo. I saw it, and I'll never forget it.

(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/craigeverton/DqHg1X0_zps7o1kuqz5.gif) (http://s802.photobucket.com/user/craigeverton/media/DqHg1X0_zps7o1kuqz5.gif.html)

It was a double post, it said the same thing. Nice try smartass. Try again.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 05:16:09 PM
It was a double post, it said the same thing. Nice try smartass. Try again.

Yeah, ok. We both know what's going on here. But we can leave it here if you don't fancy holding your hands up.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 06:09:33 PM
Yeah, ok. We both know what's going on here. But we can leave it here if you don't fancy holding your hands up.

Crashed and burned, but don't worry it can be our little secret.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 06:12:40 PM
Crashed and burned, but don't worry it can be our little secret.

Totally up to you mate.

EDIT: I totally didn't have a problem with it until you edited the post. Then it became a bit snide.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 30, 2015, 06:16:30 PM
Anyway. Lukaku. Ain't going anywhere without our say imo. We have 100% of the control in this situation, same as the Stones one.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on October 30, 2015, 06:22:16 PM
Blue in work sees it like this,

We sell Lukaku for 45-50 million

Buy Rooney for 15 million

BOMBSHELL COMING UP

Offer the shite 20 million for Sturridge

Use the rest of the money for a number 10 like Payet
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 30, 2015, 06:40:44 PM

Offer the shite 20 million for Sturridge


Our treatment room is currently full so this couldn't work
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on October 30, 2015, 06:42:33 PM
Our treatment room is currently full so this couldn't work

Imagine how many hamstring injurieis he'd get if he was at us
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on October 30, 2015, 06:55:24 PM
so would i.

You'd jizz my kecks?

Get to ours
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on October 30, 2015, 07:25:44 PM
Blue in work sees it like this,

We sell Lukaku for 45-50 million

Buy Rooney for 15 million

BOMBSHELL COMING UP

Offer the shite 20 million for Sturridge

Use the rest of the money for a number 10 like Payet

tell him to give his head a good old fashioned wobble.

clearly we'll spunk the lot on Embolo, who we will then sell for 80m in 2018 after he goes through a dry patch.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: velimski on October 30, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.


 :snigger:

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 30, 2015, 08:34:39 PM
Indeed @velimski (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1835) indeed
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: velimski on October 30, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
Indeed @velimski (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1835) indeed

I noticed your sig in another topic, so had to sniff the original corker out!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 30, 2015, 08:47:07 PM
Blue in work sees it like this,

We sell Lukaku for 45-50 million

Buy Rooney for 15 million

BOMBSHELL COMING UP

Offer the shite 20 million for Sturridge

Use the rest of the money for a number 10 like Payet

dont want that wriggley armed cunt anywhere near the club.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 30, 2015, 08:47:29 PM
You'd jizz my kecks?

Get to ours

only if you stop calling us 'filth' :snigger:
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on October 30, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
only if you stop calling us 'filth' :snigger:

Fuck off slag
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: kramer0 on October 30, 2015, 09:18:16 PM
dont want that wriggley armed cunt anywhere near the club.

This, a million times over. It would make me physically ill if any of our players had a regular celebration that twattish.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 30, 2015, 09:18:52 PM
Fuck off slag

thats better :)
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2015, 11:17:55 PM
Stop flirting.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Polledreng on October 31, 2015, 04:22:35 AM
I'd take what we paid for him. If he was English and playing for Norwich his value would be 10-15.

  lolol lolol English players Always have been cheep....
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Thomas on October 31, 2015, 06:41:46 AM
No, we should not sell our best players but look to complement them with better ones.

Rom is an excellent player and before he considers leaving we must do our upmost to convince him to stay in that eventually.

Isnt it odd that fans wont sell Naismith to Norwich for 8m but will flog Lukaku for a small ransom? Small minded mentality. This is the point I constantly make to @Rhys (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=366)  - we box ourselves as 'plucky little Everton' because some of our fans would rather take big money and run on good footballers and keep average ones.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 06, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Well according to the Mail (BBC Gossip link) Everton want 45m for him should anyone come sniffing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/34741724
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 06, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
I'd want more than 45m tbh

That said, I don't wanna sell the lad
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: pjk on November 06, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
Well according to the Mail (BBC Gossip link) Everton want 45m for him should anyone come sniffing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/34741724




If Sterlings worth 49 mill, why shouldn't Lukaku be worth 45. Look at it like that and the fee reportedly being asked isn't unrealistic. He'll probably be worth all of that and more in the next two seasons. The lad is ambitious and single minded about achieving success in football, and there's little doubt he's improving all the time. That's the good thing with Lukaku, he's matching up to his price tag and more as the season progresses, and we all know it. This is why we all seem to be resigned to losing him in the next 12-18 months.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Trowel on November 06, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
Just think how many Paul Dickov's we could buy for 45m.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on November 06, 2015, 02:49:32 PM
Just think how many Paul Dickov's we could buy for 45m.

In the modern day sadly about 5.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blue slug on November 06, 2015, 02:49:34 PM
Just think how many Paul Dickov's we could buy for 45m.

Shudders, then a little bit of sick enters mouth
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 06, 2015, 03:19:17 PM
Fair price. The issue is who do you replace him with. We should have our scouts scouring the earth at the minute for up and coming players because real top drawer players, the likes who guarantee you 20 goals+ a season, won't be interested in joining a team who don't play in Europe every year nor win trophies for decades. Unless we want to buy the Charlie Austin's of the world.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 06, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
Fair price. The issue is who do you replace him with. We should have our scouts scouring the earth at the minute for up and coming players because real top drawer players, the likes who guarantee you 20 goals+ a season, won't be interested in joining a team who don't play in Europe every year nor win trophies for decades. Unless we want to buy the Charlie Austin's of the world.

would be absolutely all over Embolo if we really are in for him. would take upwards of 20-odd million though.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on November 06, 2015, 03:55:42 PM
Papers making up a story that really isn't there, shite journos
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on November 06, 2015, 06:01:38 PM
would be absolutely all over Embolo if we really are in for him. would take upwards of 20-odd million though.

I really like the look of him. Unsure at this point if he will become a consistent goalscorer at a really high level like rom as a central striker or if he is more of a wide forward type player from the few games ive seen. Goal record for his age though is really good so possible and can only judge where has done it so far, would love to have him as one of the forward 4 with rom.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: hill135 on November 06, 2015, 06:39:09 PM
Can't see Juventus or PSG being in for him. They don't need him. PSG will see Ibra out and have Cavani in the wings to become the main man.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Shogun on November 06, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
Can't see Juventus or PSG being in for him. They don't need him. PSG will see Ibra out and have Cavani in the wings to become the main man.

Exactly, Juventus have enough strikers they don't use.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: blue slug on November 06, 2015, 07:36:48 PM
I can see why psg would want him, ibra will probably leave end of this season then they will only have cavani up top and he is linked with the usual suspects every window
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Fern on November 06, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
I think Ram would jizz his kecks if Giroud came here

What happened to ILB?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: ihatecollina on November 06, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
What happened to ILB?

Who fucking cares!!! :)
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 06, 2015, 08:08:27 PM
I really like the look of him. Unsure at this point if he will become a consistent goalscorer at a really high level like rom as a central striker or if he is more of a wide forward type player from the few games ive seen. Goal record for his age though is really good so possible and can only judge where has done it so far, would love to have him as one of the forward 4 with rom.

he's the new martial...
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: GLewis on November 06, 2015, 08:31:11 PM
I can see why psg would want him, ibra will probably leave end of this season then they will only have cavani up top and he is linked with the usual suspects every window


May shift Cavani out. He's done ok there but questions remain over his top level finishing.

Lukaku would be on less money with more potential.

Can see Ibra sticking around as it's a good fit for him at his age.

Obviously really don't want Rom to go though.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 06, 2015, 09:04:16 PM
Rom + Everton 4evs <3
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: howard1334 on November 06, 2015, 10:41:24 PM
May shift Cavani out. He's done ok there but questions remain over his top level finishing.

Lukaku would be on less money with more potential.

Can see Ibra sticking around as it's a good fit for him at his age.

Obviously really don't want Rom to go though.

Do questions really remain over Cavani's top level finishing? Guy has scored over 30 goals in a season like 5 times. Maybe five other active players have done so.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: GLewis on November 07, 2015, 12:22:13 AM
Do questions really remain over Cavani's top level finishing? Guy has scored over 30 goals in a season like 5 times. Maybe five other active players have done so.

Yeah I think he's a great league level player.

But a bit like Higuain, he always seems to miss a pretty easy chance in big CL or international fixtures.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: pjk on November 07, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
We've got some top class European players. That's obvious in my mind. Roberto Martinez is bringing in and looking at the right players. I love Roberto if we win. If we don't? well! obviously we have the wrong manager. Pfffttt
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 07, 2015, 08:11:44 AM
My two p, Romelu Lukaku is worth more to us than 45M.  The bidding starts at 55M from my perspective, or no deal.  No, I am not joking. 

He's already a 30M striker who will only improve, young, great attitude.

If you asked the rare kopite who goes the match and knows football if he would rather have Sturridge or Rom, what would he say?

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 07, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
My two p, Romelu Lukaku is worth more to us than 45M.  The bidding starts at 55M from my perspective, or no deal.  No, I am not joking. 

He's already a 30M striker who will only improve, young, great attitude.

If you asked the rare kopite who goes the match and knows football if he would rather have Sturridge or Rom, what would he say?



He'd probably say he'd rather have Origi than Rom.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: 74Blue on November 07, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
He'd probably say he'd rather have Origi than Rom.
That is quite true and also indicative of the type of absolute fucking clueless belter that is attracted to Analfield. Origi is the next El Hadji Diouf, a player that they spunked millions on off the back of two decent appearances in a major international tournament, who will go on to earn a decent living out of football without ever actually achieving anything. The fucking deluded shitheels over there actually believe that he's already world class.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 07, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Analfield oh my lord.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 07, 2015, 05:09:42 PM
I think if we do sell Lukaku before he only has 1 year left on his deal we will make a good profit on him

He is still only young and has a fantastic goal scoring record and also stays fit most of the time

Would still rather we keep him but could still see us making upto 20mil profit if we did sell him. To sell him for less than 40mil would be a bit daft I think
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 07, 2015, 05:31:05 PM
Of course he'll go within the next 2 years. He won't sign a contract extension (his bellend of an agent will see to that) and we need to maximise our record investment. The only way we change that is if we go on a run and finish in the top 4 and start to realise the potential in the squad.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 07, 2015, 07:27:14 PM
Take the 45m and turn it into Vardy and an ace goalie. Fine with me if he decides to stay though.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: hill135 on November 07, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
Take the 45m and turn it into Vardy and an ace goalie. Fine with me if he decides to stay though.

ffs never mind. GIF wouldn't work :(
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 07, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
That is quite true and also indicative of the type of absolute fucking clueless belter that is attracted to Analfield. Origi is the next El Hadji Diouf, a player that they spunked millions on off the back of two decent appearances in a major international tournament, who will go on to earn a decent living out of football without ever actually achieving anything. The fucking deluded shitheels over there actually believe that he's already world class.

You ought to see the clueless American fans that have bought a red shirt in the last 10 years.  Mostly clustered in the cities of the east coast; I've met two of them who literally had no clue Everton were based in Liverpool and didn't know there was any special rivalry between the clubs. ENC prob has similar experiences.  Zero self-awareness.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluedylan on November 07, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Fuck Vardy. Flavour of the month racist prick.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 07, 2015, 07:51:59 PM
You ought to see the clueless American fans that have bought a red shirt in the last 10 years.  Mostly clustered in the cities of the east coast; I've met two of them who literally had no clue Everton were based in Liverpool and didn't know there was any special rivalry between the clubs. ENC prob has similar experiences.  Zero self-awareness.

Oh God yes.  Liverpool shit all over cars here.  It helps that I am something of a recluse, and never go to the pub to watch the match.

Did run into ONE other Everton fan here, the attending head (male) nurse practitioner at the ER when my oldest kid had a moped accident.  He was another random supporter like myself, who just fell in love with the spirit of Everton (ie, not an ex-pat).
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 07, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
Fuck Vardy. Flavour of the month racist prick.

No racists here, please.  I rather enjoy having good human beings to support here.  And I think it's key to our good synergy on the pitch.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 07, 2015, 11:46:01 PM
You ought to see the clueless American fans that have bought a red shirt in the last 10 years.  Mostly clustered in the cities of the east coast; I've met two of them who literally had no clue Everton were based in Liverpool and didn't know there was any special rivalry between the clubs. ENC prob has similar experiences.  Zero self-awareness.

Met loads of them over the years mate. Learned to deal with it with humour. See Vardy scored again....get that GIF up and running Hill lad could do with a laugh.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Thomas on November 08, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
My two p, Romelu Lukaku is worth more to us than 45M.  The bidding starts at 55M from my perspective, or no deal.  No, I am not joking. 

He's already a 30M striker who will only improve, young, great attitude.

If you asked the rare kopite who goes the match and knows football if he would rather have Sturridge or Rom, what would he say?



He's priceless at the moment. I like his partnership with Kone too.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Silas on November 08, 2015, 12:41:57 PM
If we sell Lukaku, we spend the next ten years trying to find someone near as good.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Waltzer on November 08, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
id rather we keep Lukaku and I think we will for a few more seasons as firstly I think the money we would want for him there are only  handful of clubs that could afford it and of those clubs that could afford what we want I think there are more complete strikers. This isnt having a go at Rom at all, all im trying to say is that his overall play doesn't yet warrant what we'd want for him imo, hopefully that will come, but I think well have him for a bit longer yet.
The worry comes when hes running out of contract as hell want a significant increase, which I doubt we can afford or his agent will have no interest in extending.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 08, 2015, 03:10:01 PM
If we sell Lukaku, we spend the next ten years trying to find someone near as good.

We spent ten years finding someone to score 20 goals after Yakubu and nearly 15 years before him since Beardsley, so it shows how thin on the ground these type of strikers are for us. We had to break our transfer record twice to get Rom and Yak. Unless we get lucky we're in for another barren run if he goes and we don't spent massive to replace him.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: chang on November 08, 2015, 03:28:23 PM
This 20 goals a season thing we seem to cling to is the bar set quite high - only three players achieving it last season for example.

http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2014-2015/
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 08, 2015, 03:54:22 PM
We will Sell him in the Summer, if he goes in January then Martinez will go too.
Got to be a fee in the region of 40m straight up with extras taking it up to 45m - 50m (depending on a super rich club wanting him)
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 08, 2015, 04:18:10 PM
I think it's nailed on, injury permitting, he'll break the 20 goal mark again this season. It's 20 goals just in the Premier League which will show real progression and get others to really sit up and take notice.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: charlatan on November 08, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
I think its a given he'll be off at the end of the season if we don't make top 4 (highly unlikely).  Whether we like it or not, his gobshite of an agent will make sure of it
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 08, 2015, 07:33:48 PM
Yeah I think he will go at the end of the year.

Wouldn't hold it against him at all and nor would I think badly on the board. Just one of them.

It's the question of how do you turn Everton from a team where these world class players are sort of slumming it, to a team with world class players that is important.

How do we make players like rom feel like they're at Everton not as a nice place to make a statement, but as a place to win trophies.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 08, 2015, 07:53:57 PM
Yeah I think he will go at the end of the year.

Wouldn't hold it against him at all and nor would I think badly on the board. Just one of them.

It's the question of how do you turn Everton from a team where these world class players are sort of slumming it, to a team with world class players that is important.

How do we make players like rom feel like they're at Everton not as a nice place to make a statement, but as a place to win trophies.
We have to win trophies
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 08, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
I don't think it's a given at all (that he'll be off after this season).  His game is developing quite nicely here, and he's well-served to stay until someone truly massive comes calling.  Otherwise, he risks getting buried like he was with Chelski.

Even if his agent can't see that, Rom can.  And he's too smart/wise from past experience to be led astray.

If Martinez goes, I think he'll go.  Don't see him staying here through a transition period, that wouldn't make much sense.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluedylan on November 08, 2015, 08:25:53 PM
I think unless we deliver a trophy or close push for Top 4, chances are Stones and Rom will be going next summer. That would be regrettable, but we would get the best part of 100m for them. Teams reinvest and reinvent all the time, and sometimes come out of it stronger, if the transfer activity is good enough.

I wouldn't look to examples in this country, like Liverpool with Suarez and Spurs with Bale, because a lot of that money was wasted. But clubs like Atletico Madrid have sold big names, and prospered by investing the money very wisely. That would be the challenge for us.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 08, 2015, 08:48:23 PM
I think unless we deliver a trophy or close push for Top 4, chances are Stones and Rom will be going next summer. That would be regrettable, but we would get the best part of 100m for them. Teams reinvest and reinvent all the time, and sometimes come out of it stronger, if the transfer activity is good enough.

I wouldn't look to examples in this country, like Liverpool with Suarez and Spurs with Bale, because a lot of that money was wasted. But clubs like Atletico Madrid have sold big names, and prospered by investing the money very wisely. That would be the challenge for us.

Therefore, you would think, we should have Plan A, B and C in the works should none, one or both go in the summer. Some feat replacing those two but 80m+ should soften the blow.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 08, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
I think unless we deliver a trophy or close push for Top 4, chances are Stones and Rom will be going next summer. That would be regrettable, but we would get the best part of 100m for them. Teams reinvest and reinvent all the time, and sometimes come out of it stronger, if the transfer activity is good enough.

I wouldn't look to examples in this country, like Liverpool with Suarez and Spurs with Bale, because a lot of that money was wasted. But clubs like Atletico Madrid have sold big names, and prospered by investing the money very wisely. That would be the challenge for us.

I think Stones more likely than Rom.  I'd put him at about 80%, Rom at 40%.

Again, that assumes we have a reasonably good season (no worse than 7th), and RM stays.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 08, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
This summer could be the biggest in the history. Selling two of our best players, two young players who many feel are the backbone to build the team on. What would it mean to the other young players?

Then having a large sum of money to spend. I know a lot of people dont trust Martinez with big money.

already dreading the melt downs, already apprehensive of the (hopeful) mega highs!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on November 08, 2015, 09:09:49 PM
Why are people going on like it's almost a done deal that Lukaku would be off.

I'm not too sure myself.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 08, 2015, 09:15:57 PM
Why are people going on like it's almost a done deal that Lukaku would be off.

I'm not too sure myself.

I reckon his agent is salivating at the thought of that commission already.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on November 08, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
I reckon his agent is salivating at the thought of that commission already.

So what.

We decide when he leaves, not his agent.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 08, 2015, 09:20:38 PM
Is martinez' recruitment that bad that people wouldn't trust him?

In general I've been happy with the direction he's been taking our recruitment.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Silas on November 08, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
Is martinez' recruitment that bad that people wouldn't trust him?

In general I've been happy with the direction he's been taking our recruitment.

Yeah I think his transfer record with us so far has been largely really positive, especially now you consider the one stick we often could beat him with (Kone) has turned it round big time this season.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Hawkandro on November 08, 2015, 11:14:38 PM
He will be off next summer. His rat of an agent will see to that. Would like us to bring in Bony as his replacement. Not working for him at City. Can see them cutting their losses in the summer. Sticking point would be his wages though.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: toffee_scot on November 08, 2015, 11:34:31 PM
Overall, Lukaku has done pretty well this season and while he can sometimes go 5 games without scoring, he is actually quite prolific when you look at his goalscoring record in the past 3 seasons.

But I am not sure that there are any clubs willing to pay at least 30m for him yet (unless you are Man Utd where you might buy a teenager for 37m). We'll see how he develops but I'm pretty sure if he scored 25 goals this season with 20 of them being in the league then there will be a battle for his signature in the summer.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 09, 2015, 12:23:03 AM
I could see Bony as a replacement too.

Bony loan plus Embolo to develop I would take.

I've always quite liked that Vargas too if we wanted to go for a bargain bucket suarez/aguero style striker; small, low centre of gravity, capable of brilliant stuff and aggressive without possession.

He was crap at qpr though and only seems to produce internationally...
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Confucius on November 09, 2015, 01:47:23 AM
This summer could be the biggest in the history. Selling two of our best players, two young players who many feel are the backbone to build the team on. What would it mean to the other young players?

Then having a large sum of money to spend. I know a lot of people dont trust Martinez with big money.

already dreading the melt downs, already apprehensive of the (hopeful) mega highs!

Every Summer s our biggest Summer and every gsme is must win. Enough with the hyperbole.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 09, 2015, 02:04:12 AM
So what.

We decide when he leaves, not his agent.

I know it's very de rigeur to hate on football agents.

But a good agent doesn't generally push players into transfers that are bad for their careers. If they did that, they wouldn't have many clients for long.

Football is a crazy money business, footballers are generally poorly educated man-children, who have no idea how to negotiate against professional clubs to get fairly rewarded for their services, and who's careers could be over quicker than you can say Alf-Inge Haaland. Anyone who begrudges them representation to look after their interests is massively naive.

Footballers need agents and so that's why they exist. And again, contrary to popular interest, they're not always trying to push players into moves to make sure they make a quick buck. Generally they recognise looking after a player's best interests will help build longer-term, profitable relationships with that player and others in the long-term.

If Lukaku leaves, it won't be because his agent has tricked him into it. It's probably going to be because it's what Lukaku wants and because on balance it'll be considered to be the better move for his career.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 09, 2015, 02:43:20 AM
Every Summer s our biggest Summer and every gsme is must win. Enough with the hyperbole.

in my opinion, with the prospect of two of our best players maybe leaving, with around 100 million probably available to spend for the first time in our history, then yes, it could be our biggest summer.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Confucius on November 09, 2015, 02:47:18 AM
in my opinion, with the prospect of two of our best players maybe leaving, with around 100 million probably available to spend for the first time in our history, then yes, it could be our biggest summer.

And then the next Summer when neither is sold and barkley is also on form, then that will be our biggest Summer. Or we sell all 3 next Summer and the Summer after that we have to spend wisely as that will be our biggest Summer. or martinez leaves and takes Lukaku and Barkley with him to Valencia and then that will be our biggest Summer.

Or jags, barry, pienaar, osman. Howard and Baines all retire at the same time then it will be our biggest Summer. Or we get bought by a chinese Trillionaire and build our new stadium and then it will be our biggest Summer.

My point being it's always our biggest Summer to everyone on here when in fact, it's just a Summer like any other.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: chang on November 09, 2015, 02:50:38 AM
Back in the day for most teams, Number 9 used to be a local lad.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 09, 2015, 02:58:35 AM
And then the next Summer when neither is sold and barkley is also on form, then that will be our biggest Summer. Or we sell all 3 next Summer and the Summer after that we have to spend wisely as that will be our biggest Summer. or martinez leaves and takes Lukaku and Barkley with him to Valencia and then that will be our biggest Summer.

Or jags, barry, pienaar, osman. Howard and Baines all retire at the same time then it will be our biggest Summer. Or we get bought by a chinese Trillionaire and build our new stadium and then it will be our biggest Summer.

My point being it's always our biggest Summer to everyone on here when in fact, it's just a Summer like any other.

Not sure why you are so bothered by the fact someone may think it though.

The first time we have upwards of 100 million will be our biggest summer to date, maybe the summer after that will be even bigger due to this Chinese investment...doesnt stop the prospect of this summer being our biggest, if those players leave.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Silas on November 09, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
And then the next Summer when neither is sold and barkley is also on form, then that will be our biggest Summer. Or we sell all 3 next Summer and the Summer after that we have to spend wisely as that will be our biggest Summer. or martinez leaves and takes Lukaku and Barkley with him to Valencia and then that will be our biggest Summer.

Or jags, barry, pienaar, osman. Howard and Baines all retire at the same time then it will be our biggest Summer. Or we get bought by a chinese Trillionaire and build our new stadium and then it will be our biggest Summer.

My point being it's always our biggest Summer to everyone on here when in fact, it's just a Summer like any other.

I think I have written at least three blogs/articles on it being our biggest summer/winter transfer window etc in about five years. "On the cusp of greatness", "On the verge of collapse" etc etc. It's impossible to predict.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 09, 2015, 05:14:49 AM
Back in the day for most teams, Number 9 used to be a local lad.

?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Fern on November 09, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
in my opinion, with the prospect of two of our best players maybe leaving, with around 100 million probably available to spend for the first time in our history, then yes, it could be our biggest summer.

I don't think we would get that full 100m to spend. 
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jamokachi on November 09, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
Back in the day for most teams, Number 9 used to be a local lad.

This thread isn't about Kone.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 09, 2015, 02:59:11 PM
City with Bony in part exchange looks a possible deal. Dunno about his wages like, nor whether Martinez would want him, but they have both the cash and the need.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 09, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
SIAP

Martinez: Lukaku worth 55 million

http://www.espnfc.us/story/2705987/romelu-lukaku-worth-55-million-pounds-roberto-martinez
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: wilbur on November 09, 2015, 05:01:06 PM
I live and work with Man City fans and I can't find one that's got a good word to say about Bony since his transfer.

Too casual, lazy, won't press for the ball, they are calling him The Black Dzeko and trust me, that's not a compliment around these parts.

Just sayin' like.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: di_guyo on November 09, 2015, 05:13:20 PM
I don't think we would get that full 100m to spend. 

Anyone thinking otherwise is in dreamland!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 09, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
Bony. How deflating if we lose Lukaku one of the best 25 strikers and possible top 10-15 strike rates in world football and replace with Bony.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 09, 2015, 07:37:59 PM
I wouldn't mind that Gomiz from Swansea.. either with or without Rom.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 09, 2015, 07:38:18 PM
I wouldn't mind that Gomiz from Swansea.. either with or without Rom.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 09, 2015, 07:40:17 PM
I wouldn't mind that Gomiz from Swansea.. either with or without Rom.

We can do better than that.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bluenose 91 on November 09, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
I wouldn't mind that Gomiz from Swansea.. either with or without Rom.

Absolute turd, him.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on November 09, 2015, 08:17:03 PM
I wouldn't mind that Gomiz from Swansea.. either with or without Rom.

Will someone please think of the children, he's terrifying
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: chang on November 10, 2015, 12:06:02 AM
?

Before the "premier league" most players in Div 1 teams were from the home nations, flicking through my copy of "Soccer Star in Action" picture sticker album 1970 season (don't laugh) not a single overseas player listed for any of the 22 First division clubs.

Some handy center forwards, John Radford Arsenal, Peter Osgood Chelsea, John O'Hare Derby, Joe Royal, Allan Clarke Leeds, Francis Lee Man City, Mike Channon Southampton, Jimmy Greaves Spurs, Jeff Astle WBA, Martin Peters, Geoff Hurst WHU, Derek Dougan Wolves

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: sootyjrw on November 10, 2015, 01:07:02 AM
What we need is our better younger players to play at their potential, Stones, Barkley, Gerri and Rom, then we should be pushing for a top 4 possibly higher position, then the players will want to stay but all 4 of those and the rest of our better players will want to stay.

This is the season for that to start, with anyone being able to beat anyone, we need to take that next step
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 10, 2015, 01:14:29 AM
What we need is our better younger players to play at their potential, Stones, Barkley, Gerri and Rom, then we should be pushing for a top 4 possibly higher position, then the players will want to stay but all 4 of those and the rest of our better players will want to stay.

This is the season for that to start, with anyone being able to beat anyone, we need to take that next step

We need to let them off the leash but unfortunately the Martinez from the first season that went toe to toe and got some good results against the big boys has been swapped for a more conservative one in big games.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: hill135 on November 10, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Italian media says Juventus have 'made contact' about him but we're asking for 77 million Euros.

Taking that with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Italian media says Juventus have 'made contact' about him but we're asking for 77 million Euros.

Taking that with a pinch of salt.
That was in our media about 2 days back
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 10, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
Anyone advocating the sale of Lukaku at any price is clearly off their rocker.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on November 10, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
Anyone advocating the sale of Lukaku at any price is clearly off their rocker.

Finally, somebody with some common sense.

He is the best forward we've had in a generation, his goalscoring record speaks for itself, he would be extremely hard to replace, we should do everything possible to make sure he stays, just like we did with Stones.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2015, 07:47:04 PM
Italian media says Juventus have 'made contact' about him but we're asking for 77 million Euros.

Taking that with a pinch of salt.

There probably is some truth in Juventus' interest but it still seems strange to me. They've already got Mandzukic, Dybala and Morata (and Zaza) and I can't really see Rom fancying going there either.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 10, 2015, 08:26:00 PM
Anyone advocating the sale of Lukaku at any price is clearly off their rocker.

Argh, meant to quote but take the like, like, for your sense of humour and annoying habit of making me laugh when I'm in twattish moods.

Maybe off their rocker right now but come end of season the chances of his agent taking him to new pastures have to be high don't you think? So why not cash in now and buy another striker?

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 10, 2015, 09:10:30 PM
Argh, meant to quote but take the like, like, for your sense of humour and annoying habit of making me laugh when I'm in twattish moods.

Maybe off their rocker right now but come end of season the chances of his agent taking him to new pastures have to be high don't you think? So why not cash in now and buy another striker?



I think he'll be here next year. Irrespective of what his agent is doing for him.

Theres a reason why strikers fetch the highest premiums in football. The scarcity of real good ones and the fact they win you games. Which is pretty damn important in a results driven business.

Lukakus are few and far between. Strikers of Lukakus quality who are willing to join a non champions-league team are virtually non-existent.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 10, 2015, 10:07:35 PM
PSG or Man City. Two clubs with deep pockets, guaranteed Champions League and probably league Champions more often than not.
I'd rather he stayed but I could understand his frustration if he wanted to go. We have one swing at it this year. Finish top 4, win a trophy and he might give it one more year. Finish 8th and end the season potless and I think his bellend agent will be spouting off 10 minutes after the final whistle on the final day.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 10, 2015, 10:08:26 PM
I think he'll be here next year. Irrespective of what his agent is doing for him.

Theres a reason why strikers fetch the highest premiums in football. The scarcity of real good ones and the fact they win you games. Which is pretty damn important in a results driven business.

Lukakus are few and far between. Strikers of Lukakus quality who are willing to join a non champions-league team are virtually non-existent.

Makes sense - hope you're right - but if he does take a hike Bill may end up with a wad of cash in hand and Martinez stuck with Kone up top with Naismith next season.

Alehouse is open.......

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bluenose27 on November 11, 2015, 12:50:42 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Rhys on November 11, 2015, 04:19:09 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!

Cannot accept his taking of chances if poor.

As pointed out in the other threat our shots on goal total is really poor, but our conversion is great. Games like west brom we only have 4 shots in target as a team and rom scored twice. He is a really good finisher, if he misses a chance it's a shock. He had a poor day at Swansea but that was one of the only games for us where he has missed plenty of chances.

I can accept his first touch, hold up play, and using his strength can be very hit and miss although has been good the last month.

I think it's the other way. If we didn't have a finisher as good at taking chances as rom we could be bottom 6 by now.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2015, 04:43:38 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!
Fucking hell
I mean actually fucking hell

Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 11, 2015, 04:57:31 AM
Get him playing in the right direction and he's top drawer. Get him facing his own goal and he's bottom drawer. It's not really that difficult how we need to get the best out of him.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 11, 2015, 05:18:54 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!

That you Nikica?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 11, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
That you Nikica?

Must be as he's offside again.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2015, 05:30:53 AM
Must be as he's offside again.

Haha
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: howard1334 on November 11, 2015, 11:31:58 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!

Bullocks. He is a top striker, and if you can't see that, then you will never be happy no matter who we have. Maybe we could get someone as good for 50, but I am not actually sure given the market rates and Lukaku's continued growth potential, and that is largely irrelevant to the fact that the whole rest of your post is biased and just ridiculous.

Were you not also hating on Barkley in another thread? Do you just like hating on our best players? Do you prefer us to lack quality rather than have it, because if a player is actually just complete shit then you can't find the one or two weakness in their game to get utterly distracted by? Look, it is fine to point out that Lukaku can develop his first touch so that it is more consistent, or that Barkley would benefit if he was a more consistent defender. But you have basically said you don't rate two of our best players, both of whom have incredible potential, and could go on to be truly great. What is your game plan here? Do you just live in a world of preconceived notions and confirmation biases? I really don't get it. It just seems like some of our supporters are truly half cup kind of people. There is no need to be so focused on every little negative.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Get him playing in the right direction and he's top drawer. Get him facing his own goal and he's bottom drawer. It's not really that difficult how we need to get the best out of him.

think you are doing him a disservice again mate. How long does he have to keep performing before you abolish this thinking? He's shown genuine significant improvement in this area this season.

yes he is more dangerous tearing through a defence and slotting a one on one like he has the last two games in a row, but he's done really well recently in regards to giving CB's real trouble and holding up the ball for others. it's not his natural game regardless of his frame, but he seems to be learning.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: 74Blue on November 11, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
think you are doing him a disservice again mate. How long does he have to keep performing before you abolish this thinking? He's shown genuine significant improvement in this area this season.

yes he is more dangerous tearing through a defence and slotting a one on one like he has the last two games in a row, but he's done really well recently in regards to giving CB's real trouble and holding up the ball for others. it's not his natural game regardless of his frame, but he seems to be learning.
Agreed. He is improving his hold up play, bit if you play to his strengths and put the ball just behind the defender for him to run on to, he is lethal. His goalscoring record speaks for itself. Feed him and he will score, simple.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Macca77 on November 11, 2015, 05:25:11 PM
One million dollars....

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Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 11, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
think you are doing him a disservice again mate. How long does he have to keep performing before you abolish this thinking? He's shown genuine significant improvement in this area this season.

yes he is more dangerous tearing through a defence and slotting a one on one like he has the last two games in a row, but he's done really well recently in regards to giving CB's real trouble and holding up the ball for others. it's not his natural game regardless of his frame, but he seems to be learning.

I was using a phrase to make a point, don't take it so literally. I agree his hold up play is getting better.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Silas on November 11, 2015, 10:55:31 PM
I think he's been our second most consistent player behind Barry which is a big improvement.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: gibletmc1992 on November 11, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
A huge positive this year has been Lukaku, I just hope we don't sell him in January/ the summer!

I think this squad has a lot of potential and we need to keep this core of young exciting players.

If we had to sell him I'd maybe take 50 million but i'd much rather it didnt come to that, we proved we aren't a selling club!
http://realsport101.com/how-long-can-everton-hold-onto-romelu-lukaku/
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 12, 2015, 12:57:25 AM
Even MLT is warming to him, that tells me we're onto something special here, lads.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Confucius on November 12, 2015, 01:38:25 AM
To be honest Lukaku is now playing in a quality side with some real quality players and so called lesser strikers than him with the assists he has had would have scored as many goals as him or more.
I maintain his first touch is simply poor and his ratio of taking chances is not brilliant. If he had put away the chances a top quality striker normally does we would be at least top 6 now.
Really think we could get somebody better for the 50 mill we would get for him and the very fact I am not upset at the thought of him going as I have in the past about players we have lost says it all for me!

So our shit striker who can't score and has an atrocious first touch is worth 50M?

Time to take a break from the thinking thing. it's not working for you.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Toddacelli on November 13, 2015, 05:03:01 AM
Sorry for the drive-by post but I'm not reading 14 fucking pages about selling Lukaku off.

Forget the price. It's not actually about price. The price has left the building.

Buying Lukaku in the way that we did, from the club that we did, at the time that we did and for the price that we did - that was a statement of intent.

Selling Lukaku would be going back on this and sending the wrong message to

a) the players we want to keep at this club
&
b) the players we want to attract to this club

So pretty please, with fucking sugar on top, stop talking about selling Lukaku.

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/a3e00337603775e3dad17e4af36cc2d2/tumblr_ni4qt89Ujh1s373hwo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 13, 2015, 05:53:42 AM
Fair to say Tod nailed it big time.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Toddacelli on November 17, 2015, 05:12:09 AM
Fair to say Tod nailed it big time.

Thanks MBS.

I don't usually like to wade in like that without reading the whole thread. People have taken time and contributed so I find it rude to dismiss all that - after all, discussion is why we're here.

It's also good to hear all sides of the argument, you learn a lot from other perspectives and I think it broadens your understanding even if you don't agree with a particular standpoint.

Having said all that - 14 pages on selling Lukaku and at what price again?

No.

Sorry. But No.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 17, 2015, 05:14:43 PM
Thanks MBS.

I don't usually like to wade in like that without reading the whole thread. People have taken time and contributed so I find it rude to dismiss all that - after all, discussion is why we're here.

It's also good to hear all sides of the argument, you learn a lot from other perspectives and I think it broadens your understanding even if you don't agree with a particular standpoint.

Having said all that - 14 pages on selling Lukaku and at what price again?

No.

Sorry. But No.

I get your sentiments but if he tells us he ain't signing a contract extension then we have no choice. Granted we can probably wait a year or so until his value starts to depreciate but if he wants to go then he's a major asset on the balance sheet of the club that needs protecting. Martinez might say otherwise but we're not Manchester United/Real Madrid/Barca/Munich/City/PSG. Every club outside of those is a selling club at the right price.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: TheRam on November 17, 2015, 10:13:32 PM
Isn't every club a selling club 'at the right price'?
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Silas on November 17, 2015, 10:45:33 PM
Isn't every club a selling club 'at the right price'?

Yep, the selling club thing is a load of shite really.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Toddacelli on November 18, 2015, 01:08:09 AM
Isn't every club a selling club 'at the right price'?

Dunno.

Ask Stones' agent and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: 74Blue on November 18, 2015, 01:57:40 PM
Dunno.

Ask Stones' agent and Chelsea.
That's the thing though. Chelsea didn't come up with the right price. Would Everton's resolve have been so strong had Chelsea opened the bidding at, say, 35m and maybe increased it to 50m? I think that had Chelsea opened the bidding at a more sensible price & ended up somewhere around 50m, John Stones would be gone. That would have been more like a price that we couldn't realistically refuse.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
Isn't every club a selling club 'at the right price'?

In theory yes. But the top 6 in europe can afford to reject offers that other clubs just wouldn't be able to justify turning down.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: kramer0 on November 19, 2015, 12:24:30 AM
All of this Lukaku transfer talk proves, at the very least, that we are going to make a serious profit if (when) we sell him.

Even if he never hits the heights that Evertonians expect from a 28 million striker, the signing was an absolute masterstroke.
Title: Re: Lukaku for sale - Fair price
Post by: Lxxx on November 19, 2015, 04:35:52 PM
Even if he never hits the heights that Evertonians expect from a 28 million striker, the signing was an absolute masterstroke.

20 goals a season on a regular basis is about par for the course for a 28m striker.