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Title: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 12, 2016, 11:35:10 PM
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Everton v West Bromwich Albion
Goodison Park
Saturday 13th February 15:00
Premier League Match #26


Everton's last 5 matches

Chelsea 3-3 Everton (O.G, Mirallas, Funes Mori)
Manchester City 3-1 Everton - Capital One Cup (Barkley)
Carlisle United 0-3 Everton (Kone, Lennon, Barkley)
Everton 3-0 Newcastle United (Lennon, Barkley Pen x2)
Stoke City 0-3 Everton (Lukaku Pen, Coleman, Lennon)

West Brom's last 5 matches

West Brom 0-0 Aston Villa
West Brom 2-2 Peterborough - FA Cup (Berahino x2)
West Brom 1-1 Swansea City (Rondon)
Newcastle United 1-0 West Brom
Peterborough 1-1 (3-4 Pens) West Brom - FA Cup (Fletcher)

Everton

Everton recorded their third successive 3-0 victory last weekend thanks to three first half goals against Stoke City at the Britannia Stadium. Those three goals in the opening 45 minutes means that no Premier League side have scored more first half goals than Everton this season (23, Joint with Spurs). Joel Robles has now kept a clean sheet in his last five consecutive Premier League matches for Everton which is a streak he'll be looking to extend this weekend, though Everton have conceded 22 goals at Goodison Park this season and that is the worst record of any club in the top five European leagues, alongside newly promoted Serie A side, Frosinone. Romelu Lukaku scored a personal best of 17 league goals in 35 appearances during his loan spell at West Bromwich Albion and should he score his fourth goal in four matches against the Baggies then he'll equal the same tally on Saturday. Despite beating Newcastle United in their last home match, Everton go into this home fixture bottom of the form table (home matches only) with just five points from their last six matches at Goodison Park.

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Everton's back to back Premier League victories means that they're now in a much stronger psotition than at this stage last season and considering that the Toffees took just one point from the three matches that followed at this stage last season, then Everton have the opportunity to extend their eight point lead further. Despite scoring 15 more goals than last season and rising four places in the table, the main statistics aren't much different in numbers. Everton average the same amount of possession, they've hit the same percentage of shots on target and won the same percentage of tackles. The only significant difference is that they're creating more chances during matches whilst they've still conceded a similar amount of goals. The main difference this season has come in away fixtures as Everton have taken exactly the same amount of points after 13 matches at Goodison Park as they did last season (16) whereas only Leicester (28), Arsenal (24) and Tottenham (23) have taken more points than the Toffees (19) away from home this season.

Possible Line-Ups

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West Brom



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Statistics & Injuries

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Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 12, 2016, 11:36:06 PM
I'll fill this in later but I thought with less than 24 hours until the match, it'd probably be best to put a thread up before @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) has a bitch fit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 12, 2016, 11:58:49 PM
Seemingly think this every week but it's an interesting game for us. (I suppose that's what comes with being inconsistent)

Obviously Carlisle weren't great being a League 2 side. But that was exacerbated by them trying to play football (set pieces aside) as this played into our hands much more than a good old fashioned kick and rush team might have done.

Newcastle started off with an open looking side and only went even more so after half time, which again suited us playing Lennon and Cleverly.

Similarly Stoke no longer employ the good old welly too often and in fact comfortably had more possession than us. Again this suited our new found solidity in that we were able to exploit the wide spaces when we won the ball back.

This game however will be a test for the team (and Lennon and Cleverly as individuals) in that they will sit behind the ball.

There'll be the pressure on us to make the match interesting so we will have to be careful to not leave ourselves exposed if we commit too many forward.

Also the defence will have plenty of possession in this one. Again going against the recent grain of being able to put their foot through it more frequently.

Could well be a game for the subs.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 12:07:51 AM
I'm going for a grim 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 13, 2016, 12:10:59 AM
They will be goosed after playing 120 minutes on Wednesday. No excuses here. Need to put this one to bed early and comfortably
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 12:27:29 AM
Top 4?

Everton manager Roberto Martinez: "Where we drop too many points is at home, and we're embracing that as a real challenge.

"We want to aim high, we want to be involved in the latter stages of every competition and we want to get into the top four."

West Brom head coach Tony Pulis: "They've got some fantastic players, it's most probably the strongest Everton squad that the club has had for a long time.

"We know how difficult it's going to be, they're a good side and it's going to be tough, but we have to go there and make sure we put a show on."
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on February 13, 2016, 12:33:17 AM
A Pulis team is always difficult to beat . We need to score first and make them come out.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 13, 2016, 12:36:17 AM
These matchday threads are getting later and later, is this so shoggy can get a team right?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 12:39:14 AM
These matchday threads are getting later and later, is this so shoggy can get a team right?

Have you seen West Brom's injuries? I've them playing two attacking full backs away from home in a Pulis team. inconsiderate bastards.

I hope that is their team, it looks dreadful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 12:50:16 AM

Top 4?

Everton manager Roberto Martinez: "Where we drop too many points is at home, and we're embracing that as a real challenge.

"We want to aim high, we want to be involved in the latter stages of every competition and we want to get into the top four."

West Brom head coach Tony Pulis: "They've got some fantastic players, it's most probably the strongest Everton squad that the club has had for a long time.

"We know how difficult it's going to be, they're a good side and it's going to be tough, but we have to go there and make sure we put a show on."

To be fair I think he's talking generally here.

Or he should be to distract from where we are/have been for 18 months!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TSGun on February 13, 2016, 12:59:23 AM
Despite the Pulis factor this is the most confidence I've fealt all season.

If we can keep building on the past few weeks, and not get frustrated, all should end well. We seem to be playing them just at the right time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on February 13, 2016, 01:19:07 AM
Easy win against a tired, depleted team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2016, 01:40:41 AM
Taking my kid on a university visit, so it will be a Saturday night game (US time) on the DVR for me, and I will probably be the last voter for MotM.  But I won't cheat and read the thread first.

We are, believe it or not, the main NBCSN match, so should be plenty of streams for you guys at least.  COYB!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 01:45:22 AM
think we will hammer them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 02:11:25 AM
Should do a sweepstakes on how many centre backs Pulis will have in the lineup.

I vote six.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on February 13, 2016, 02:57:20 AM
https://twitter.com/tjdubss/status/633591976793915392 (https://twitter.com/tjdubss/status/633591976793915392)

Not confident but I never am these days.

Would be ecstatic to have my worries allayed by a comfortable 2-0 win.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 13, 2016, 04:34:04 AM
I would feel like we've turned a corner if we beat these comfortably tomorrow

Traditionally they feel like the side most likely to turn up purely to try and stop you playing

I've been to this fixture the last 2 seasons and watched 2 horrible 0-0 draws where they didn't try to create anything all game

Anichebe won't actually play will he?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: DanDan on February 13, 2016, 05:53:17 AM
These matchday threads are getting later and later, is this so shoggy can get a team right?

Also @Shogun (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1108) has completely wiped the Swansea game from his memory ;)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on February 13, 2016, 05:54:54 AM
I fully expect us to beat these comfortably.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 06:46:24 AM
Be about 4-0 this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
Think we will smash them. But then I am always over confident going into games.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 13, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
We are the most backed team of the weekend according to Betfair

Three things are certain in life
Taxes
Death
Everton fuck your weekend up
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 13, 2016, 03:29:38 PM
We are the most backed team of the weekend according to Betfair

Three things are certain in life
Taxes
Death
Everton fuck your weekend up

It would actually be a shock if we win this I think and maybe even show that Martinz really has turned a corner

This is the classic type of game that he fails to win. They are setting up just to stifle us, the exact toughest strategy for us to combat with his philosophy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 13, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
We need to start like last week, and not let them get a foothold in the game, just like we did to Stoke last week, and many teams have done to us at home , were we have started slow...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 03:43:06 PM
They'll come and do what they did last year and play a 9-1 formation.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 04:15:09 PM

We need to start like last week, and not let them get a foothold in the game, just like we did to Stoke last week, and many teams have done to us at home , were we have started slow...

I think this is where it's tough in games like these.

Stoke wanted to control the ball; therefore us getting in and around them was disruptive to their plan and allowed us to take advantage of the resultant space.

Here they won't want the ball so a similar type of faster start won't necessarily achieve the same aims. E.g. They'd be happy to boot the ball away under pressure and get back into shape, lessening the chances of stealing it off them in advantageous positions.

However what we must do is look like we're trying to score.

There's not a need to always look for a clear chance to move forward.

If we settle for slow passing around midfield and at the back that's exactly what they want.

Therefore some early crosses, long range efforts will be needed to get the crowd feeling like we're on to something.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 13, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
This ones going to be grim. I can feel it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 04:50:16 PM
This is as confident as I have been all season, have no doubt Pullises WBA will come down park the bus and win 1-0 with there only shot on target. Actually got us to win 4-0 in the prediction league.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 13, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Glad I'm not going today. Watching us try and get past 10 men all sat in the final third playing for a point and maybe a scratchy set piece goal would be painful.

So it'll be a 3-2 win then.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 13, 2016, 06:05:24 PM
It feels like we are more likely to win when we are against sides who want to control possession. Our strength really is playing on the counter, especially with Lennon in the side.

Would be ideal if West Brom came at us today and tried to beat us cos we would hit them on the break and give them a hiding

As it is they will just turn up and try and bore the shit of us and go for a 0-0 draw and make our support fume!dangerously teams who set up for a 0-0 at Goodison have been known to sneak away with a win!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 06:11:54 PM
I wonder if Martinez will stick with the same starting XI as the 2 previous victories - something tells me though that Deulofeu could be key to this game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on February 13, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
Deulefeu has to start this. We need that magic to get the first goal. Otherwise we will pass the ball back and sideways trying to tease them out a bit but they won't and we will all end up getting really frustrated.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 07:19:46 PM

Deulefeu has to start this. We need that magic to get the first goal. Otherwise we will pass the ball back and sideways trying to tease them out a bit but they won't and we will all end up getting really frustrated.

I see what you mean but you can't really drop Lennon on the back of his last three games
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 07:23:23 PM

Deulefeu has to start this. We need that magic to get the first goal. Otherwise we will pass the ball back and sideways trying to tease them out a bit but they won't and we will all end up getting really frustrated.

Yeah normally I'd say Deulofeu to definitely start.

But given that we've only started looking ok with this recent line up its very difficult to change it.

Had we been in good form, accommodation changes most weeks then it'd be an obvious selection.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 13, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Well I am off to watch Dover v Gateshead rather than watch WBA park the bus and play the most negative of games . I hope the plan fails and we smash them 4-0 . I can see Niasse scoring on his debut as well as Barkley , Lukaku and Deulofeu .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 07:51:09 PM
I don't feel confident of a big win, think they are too negative for that but we should win
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 08:00:10 PM
Well I am off to watch Dover v Gateshead rather than watch WBA park the bus and play the most negative of games . I hope the plan fails and we smash them 4-0 . I can see Niasse scoring on his debut as well as Barkley , Lukaku and Deulofeu .

Good fan you.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 08:00:41 PM
team unchanged
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 08:01:08 PM
Niasse not even on the bench
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 08:02:38 PM
Martinez clearly bright enough to at least try and keep the fans onside
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 08:03:24 PM
Hardly surprising considering the recent upturn, plenty of attacking options on the bench but little defensive cover again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 08:05:47 PM
Niasse not even on the bench

We may as well just signed him in the summer at this rate.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Thom on February 13, 2016, 08:08:30 PM
Good on him for sticking with the same side. It would have been the wrong move to change it, obviously.

Little in the way of defensive cover on the bench though. Don't see the need for four wide players when we could have Galloway on there at least, but Martinez must feel Barry or McCarthy are capable of slotting into the back line if need be.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 08:11:35 PM
Same team?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 13, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
lack of games due to Russian winter break, must really take its toll, if he;s not ready yet.................
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 08:23:10 PM
What is going on with Baines? get him in the team
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dekko on February 13, 2016, 08:25:36 PM
What is going on with Baines? get him in the team

Yes! He's much more of threat going forward.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 13, 2016, 08:26:01 PM
What is going on with Baines? get him in the team

Oviedo has been playing well and I thought Baines form had slipped a bit since his return from injury
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on February 13, 2016, 08:36:25 PM
A chance to catch up on Utd now they lost.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 08:41:02 PM
Oviedo has been playing well and I thought Baines form had slipped a bit since his return from injury

Agree with this SS, love Bainsey but he is still not quite right after those two big injuries, besides formwise Oviedo, like Robles deserves his place atm.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 08:41:51 PM
Thought Niasse would have made the bench today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
Oviedo has been playing well and I thought Baines form had slipped a bit since his return from injury

He's not going to get a chance to get his form back sitting on the bench. Both on form Baines is still the far better player.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 08:43:57 PM
Not sure where this Baines has been out of form stuff is coming from. Been injured a lot but on his return he looked fine.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
The Baines one is strange isn't it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 08:47:15 PM
Baines has been sub par for a while now and is on the decline.

Don't think he'll ever return to the player he once was.

Oveido has played well and is a lot more threatening going forward.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 08:47:31 PM
Keep a winning team together

breeds confidence and a sense of actually being rewarded for your performance
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on February 13, 2016, 08:48:42 PM
This is proper competition. It's very good.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 08:51:15 PM
Streams?

Struggling to find a good quality one here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 08:51:50 PM
Probably wise to stay with the same lineup, the big surprise is seeing Howard on the bench, perhaps Martinez has finally taken into account fan discontent regarding his performances.

I think the subs could be key in the second half, as already suggested, Deulofeu's trickery could be useful, maybe even Mirallas to score a late goal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 08:59:14 PM
streamage

http://antenasport.com/englishpremierleague1.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 08:59:57 PM
Streams?

Struggling to find a good quality one here.

Try this one

http://www.stream2u-tv.me/watch/35043/1/Premier-League-Everton-FC-vs-West-Bromwich-Albion.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:00:57 PM
Zunox for the stream lads
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 09:02:06 PM
Baines has been sub par for a while now and is on the decline.

Don't think he'll ever return to the player he once was.

Oveido has played well and is a lot more threatening going forward.

He has fallen a bit, but the decline is no where near as precipitous as you are claiming. Moreover, he has looked excellent at times since returning, and though Oviedo was excellent defending last match, Baines has been the far superior defender in general.

Actually okay with Oveido continuing to start given recent play, but you are not talking truth.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Londontoff33 on February 13, 2016, 09:02:54 PM
Mobile link

http://nothingbutplays.net/streams/channel%204.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:03:16 PM
Nice to see some real intensity at home.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
Needs to hit that first time
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
great start :)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:03:35 PM
Started very brightly here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 09:04:29 PM
Damn. Lennon is full of confidence at the moment. No question.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:04:37 PM
Kin ell were going for these!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 09:05:53 PM
decent stream http://zunox.hk/zunox1.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Really bright start
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
lots of chances...need to knock one in to take control.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:10:13 PM
McCarthy switching the play well to Lennon there, a really positive forward pass.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 09:11:42 PM
http://antenasport.com/englishpremierleague1.html - from NBC Sports Network USA
http://antenasport.com/live1.html - from Premier League Pass
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
Mobile link

http://nothingbutplays.net/streams/channel%204.html

Great this - good quality and no pop-up ads !  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:13:28 PM
Shocking delivery
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:14:54 PM
Our defensive corners haven't changed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:14:55 PM
fuck me :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:15:13 PM
I see nothing has changed then.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fern on February 13, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
I can't be arsed with this anymore. We will never learn.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:15:26 PM
Ha
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:15:30 PM
Oh ffs
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
WTF, just floated in. :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:15:53 PM
We need to stop being scared to play at home.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
Early days.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:16:21 PM
Could Robles have done better there? Looked wrong footed but would have hoped to see him launch himself at that when it got to the back post
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 09:16:36 PM
early days

rather them score now then in the 80th minute!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 09:16:43 PM
Still don't know why we don't put someone on the post for corners.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:16:44 PM
 Lol
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
Started well and think we are going to turn this around.
Just as long as we keep them out the coming five mins.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:17:30 PM
West Brom though.  lolol Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:17:52 PM
:( we will still win...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 09:18:22 PM
Knowing the 'Everton rollercoaster', we are due a horrendous week after last weeks three Up's...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:19:02 PM
Love when I reckon we will bang a team we dont.

Predicted 5-0 niasse.

Both of those gone in 15 mins.

Worst case scenario this, they are hard enough to score against as it is.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:19:40 PM

Could Robles have done better there? Looked wrong footed but would have hoped to see him launch himself at that when it got to the back post

Don't think he could, that was a pretty crazy header to loop over him like that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 09:19:51 PM
Fuckin Howard again..
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 09:20:02 PM
Poor from Joel. Should be trying to punch the ball out, and was about to but then decides when he sees the man coming to make a save, without realising he'll then be behind the line.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:20:06 PM
Commence Everton pub team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Watching the replay it looks like he's expecting rondon to head it back across as well
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:20:26 PM
Would be nice if we could get control of the game again,
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:23:04 PM
Our players need to go down more and force the red into making the decision.

Cleverly definitely fouled there but because he stayed up we got nothing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:24:22 PM
Our players need to go down more and force the red into making the decision.

Cleverly definitely fouled there but because he stayed up we got nothing

Then they get moaned at for 'diving'.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:24:23 PM
these are diving little cunts arent they.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:25:46 PM
You can already see how this games going go, we will very likely scrape a draw here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:25:58 PM

Then they get moaned at for 'diving'.

It's not diving when there is contact.

It's not always a foul or a dive
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:26:30 PM
West Brom have a plan, unfortunately it's working.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:27:24 PM
Naaaa these will tire, Del & Kev can come on. Just keep going, we will win.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:27:33 PM
we're still playing well. just have to be aware that they might also have the odd bright moment, and defend accordingly.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
"West Brom boss Tony Pulis, in his tracksuit and cap with his hands in his pockets, will be happier than compatriot Roberto Martinez, who has his arms folded." Says the BBC

Didn't know RM was Welsh?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:27:56 PM
Best outcome from our corners seems to be not to gift the opposition a counter attack... Score by ourselves seems like utopia.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on February 13, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
I think we're going to need a little bit of individual brilliance to get anything out of this game. Pulis has got exactly what he want now, that team will sit back and hold position happily for the rest of the day. Gerry would be our best option a just to get in behind the full-backs and into the big man.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
I miss the Seamus Coleman who used to put away his chances.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 09:28:58 PM
This ref is fucking useless. The time wasting and the constant half fouling gaining an advantage without conceding a free kick
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:29:03 PM
I hate this smug looking cunt of a ref.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:29:13 PM
This is football at its worse
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
what do our attackers have to do to win a foul?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:29:16 PM
Imagine supporting a team where you waste time from the 15th minute, must be grim
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:30:59 PM

I miss the Seamus Coleman who used to put away his chances.
The curse of marriage...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:31:09 PM
I think today is the day when Mori strolls forward and smashes one in from 40 yards
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
We'll still break them down eventually, they can't keep defending like this. Anyway, we get loads of penalties these days.

Pulis and his teams really are the definition of anti football.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:31:42 PM
We need to up the tempo a bit more and try and catch all 10 of their defenders off guard.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:32:48 PM

Imagine supporting a team where you waste time from the 15th minute, must be grim
Maybe WBA wants to play two 120 mins game in one week?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
We need to up the tempo a bit more and try and catch all 10 of their defenders off guard.

Difficult when they are all standing on their goal line.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:33:49 PM
Hope it's not going to be one of those days. Great leap, unlucky not to score.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:33:50 PM
How he that stayed out??
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 09:34:26 PM
Lennon is embarrassing them defensively. Working 5 yards of space every time he gets the ball
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:34:27 PM
Lennon had been watching Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on February 13, 2016, 09:34:32 PM
Get the ball out to the right. Lennon has their LB sweating.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:35:02 PM
Hope it's not going to be one of those days. Great leap, unlucky not to score.

We tend to have a lot of those days it seems.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:35:51 PM
Azza almost making it four in four!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 09:35:56 PM
Fucks sake just bastard score will ya
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 09:36:01 PM
Playing brilliantly now. Mori should have been looking to lay that off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:36:10 PM
Oviedos delivery has been great.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:36:31 PM
Funes Mori such an attacking threat. Best CB threat we've had since Lescott.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 09:36:40 PM
Tell you what, I wonder if Lennon has been learning a thing or two by watching Deulofeu in training. Seems to have a few strings to his bow this season.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 09:36:53 PM
knocking on the door here. keep going to Lennon
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:37:01 PM
Sick volley Robles lad.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:37:34 PM
FUCK
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on February 13, 2016, 09:37:40 PM
Coleman and Lennon look like a great combo.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:37:44 PM
Ok, this is getting ridiculous
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:37:45 PM
Give the ball to Lennon
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 09:37:49 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:38:19 PM
One of those days people.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 09:38:29 PM
Just for their complete negativity WBA deserve at least 5 put past them today. An hour to go and they're hanging on like a team in stoppage time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
for Christ sake we could have easily scored 4 goals already.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 09:38:41 PM
Will you fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
Oh my god what do we need to do to score today??
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
It just is isn't it, one of those good old jolly glorious days isn't it?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
How are we losing here FFS.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
No idea how we aren't winning here never mind losing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:39:43 PM
hahahja fucking hell. how have we not scored?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 09:39:54 PM
Jesus Christ. How the fuck are we not 2 or 3 up
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:40:01 PM
I'm lost for words. Absolutely nuts.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:40:05 PM
FFS
This Is ridiculous now!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:40:07 PM
Ha.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:40:22 PM
fucking post again...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:40:24 PM
 lolol Did we give lady luck aids or something?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 09:40:32 PM
it's not if but when
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on February 13, 2016, 09:40:45 PM
Fucking posts
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:41:20 PM
Getting like the Crystal Palace game at home.

It would just be beyond typical if they won this of a shite corner.

Horrible team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:42:01 PM
What is happening
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:42:16 PM
The whole of the stoke game and the first half of this, should have had about 10 goals.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:42:19 PM
Two handballs there
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 09:42:30 PM
FuMo just went for that 40 yarder
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
all we need is davy crockett...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:42:58 PM
Tony Pulis is a disgrace
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
Deleofeu on and just rape them.

They struggle with tricky wingers.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Brownie on February 13, 2016, 09:43:17 PM
Thus is like the Palace game all over again
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on February 13, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
How the fuck have we not scored?!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on February 13, 2016, 09:43:51 PM
Playing well at least, and creating plenty of chances. It'll come.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:44:24 PM

Tony Pulis is a disgrace
Everyone to their strengths though....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:44:32 PM
Don't think it will, it is as much as one of those days as one of those days can be.

Got all the hallmarks of that type of game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on February 13, 2016, 09:45:21 PM

Don't think it will, it is as much as one of those days as one of those days can be.

Got all the hallmarks of that type of game.
Fearing the worst here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:45:39 PM

Deleofeu on and just rape them.

They struggle with tricky wingers.
To be fair they struggle with anything related to football!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
They'd have been as well putting Anichebe up front for all they've threatened.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
Deleofeu on and just rape them.

They struggle with tricky wingers.

for who?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
for who?

Joel Robles for all I care.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:47:17 PM

They'd have been as well putting Anichebe up front for all they've threatened.

Berahino was about a foot away from getting that through ball and scoring, they'll still be a threat on the break
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 09:47:25 PM
Just give the ball to Lennon!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Stream must died, great.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Don't think that Cleverly is adding enough at the moment.

Lukaku not at his best either.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on February 13, 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Sensational from Lennon in this first half.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:47:48 PM
Joel Robles for all I care.

stupid shout cos you wont take lennon off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:47:57 PM
exciting and depressing, all in one...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
I've always like me Lennon but I've never seen him this good/dominant.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
fuckkkk sake. :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 09:48:12 PM
Berahino was about a foot away from getting that through ball and scoring, they'll still be a threat on the break

Nah, he was nowhere near it.

At least the refs caught on to their time wasting, three minutes added on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
 :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on February 13, 2016, 09:48:22 PM
http://drakulastream.tv/soccer/everton-vs-west-bromwich-albion-drs3e5560
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 09:48:36 PM
what is wrong with our team in first half?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: irishtoffee on February 13, 2016, 09:48:39 PM

Mobile link

http://nothingbutplays.net/streams/channel%204.html
this was the best stream I'd ever had and then it died
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:48:40 PM
Bizarre first half, just absolutely banged them.

HATE games where you should win that you don't, rather we had been playing shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:48:50 PM
We've clearly been working on attacking set pieces. Oveido's delivery has been spot on
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:48:59 PM
absolutely mad that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:49:06 PM
stupid shout cos you wont take lennon off

It was sarcastic but ok.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
this was the best stream I'd ever had and then it died

It's back up mate.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:49:24 PM
what is wrong with our team in first half?

nothing...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:49:28 PM

stupid shout cos you wont take lennon off

Take cleverly off then.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 09:49:41 PM
what is wrong with our team in first half?

absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
It was sarcastic but ok.

i mean Del. Yeah we want him on but you cant take Lennon off!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:50:10 PM
Take cleverly off then.

can Del play on the left then?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:50:23 PM
Man. Ridiculous half.

Maybe it's going to take something really flukey for us to score.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:50:24 PM
Mental that. But when you can't defend set pieces then you only have yourselves to blame.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
It is gonna be a struggle watching this second half.

It will be more of the same in terms of being nearly there but not quite.

Del on for Clev at some point, Mirallas later on in the game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 09:50:41 PM
No reason at all for McCarthy and Barry to both be on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 09:50:46 PM
http://antenasport.com/englishpremierleague1.html - NBC Sports Network USA

http://antenasport.com/live1.html - Premier League Pass
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
Deulofeu on for McCarthy and throw the kitchen sink at them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 09:50:58 PM
Drop Barkley deep and play Gerard through the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:51:05 PM
i mean Del. Yeah we want him on but you cant take Lennon off!

Cleverley off.

We have to try and win the game now, and Del can play either side. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
If we get one we'll get two.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:51:30 PM
Ahhh man Robles is a bad shithouse for their goal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 09:51:37 PM
Cleverley off.

We have to try and win the game now, and Del can play either side. 

I don't think he has ever played on the left for us.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 09:51:46 PM
Cleverley off.

We have to try and win the game now, and Del can play either side. 

ah wasnt sure if he could play on the left. Yeah id put him on there then.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:51:49 PM
Their goal was weird, how do you let a ball "Float" into your own net?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 13, 2016, 09:51:52 PM
How they are 1-0 up is a mystery to me.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:52:03 PM
can Del play on the left then?

Of course he can.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:52:14 PM
Just turning into one of those games.

You can imagine Pulis though, no one will be more delighted with his team's performance and tactics.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:52:16 PM
I don't think he has ever played on the left for us.

I'd imagine he shouldn't have much trouble cutting inside if need be.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 13, 2016, 09:52:18 PM
Fucking hell pulis sides are grim
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 09:52:20 PM

Cleverley off.

We have to try and win the game now, and Del can play either side.

Can he?

He's heavily right footed
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:52:24 PM
We've clearly been working on attacking set pieces. Oveido's delivery has been spot on

Dare I say it but better than Baines on corners at least. Cleverley is pretty good on the left too (corner taking wise).
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:52:30 PM
Besides, wherever he plays, I just want him on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 09:52:42 PM
I think we need to calm down at half time. We've got 45 minutes, we're by far the better team, but we need to be patient. And when we do equalise, we need to be extra careful for the following five minutes, as West Brom won't just cave in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 13, 2016, 09:53:09 PM
Ahhh man Robles is a bad shithouse for their goal.

It was if someone told him he's not allowed to use his hands.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 09:53:18 PM
Really unlucky, Pulis will have them fired up for this half now they've gone in without conceding we'll need a bright start to getting them rocking again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 09:53:27 PM
Wouldn't change anything yet, especially as Cleverley is playing really well imo. Would look to change things if we don't make the breakthrough by 60 minutes. I am hoping we are wearing them down and it's not going to be one of them days. We really have been great aside from that stupid set piece goal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 09:53:41 PM
I missed the line ups...is our new fella on the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Thom on February 13, 2016, 09:54:26 PM
Wouldn't change anything yet, especially as Cleverley is playing really well imo. Would look to change things if we don't make the breakthrough by 60 minutes. I am hoping we are wearing them down and it's not going to be one of them days. We really have been great aside from that stupid set piece goal.

That's the hope, especially with most of their side playing 120 minutes in midweek. Need an early goal in the second half to really get them worrying.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:54:45 PM

It was if someone told him he's not allowed to use his hands.

Yeah. He could've easily stopped it if he threw himself at rondon.

Awful footwork too, which is a massive weakness of his.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:55:01 PM
If this keeps up, I expect us to make a substitution by the 60 minute mark, thing is Lennon has been excellent on the right wing but a Deulofeu type player could also work magic.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:55:02 PM

I missed the line ups...is our new fella on the bench?

Nah
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 09:55:13 PM
Can he?

He's heavily right footed

He's switched sides mid game before.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2016, 09:55:57 PM
This is the grimmiest side Tony Pulis has ever put together.  Not a single positive thing about it.

There's really not a lot you can do except keep plugging away and taking the occasional pot shot.

Not sure what James McCarthy is bringing to the game at the minute though, especially now they're ahead.   We could sacrifice him for another forward.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 09:56:10 PM
I missed the line ups...is our new fella on the bench?

No.

Bench: Howard, Baines, Kone, Osman, Pienaar, Mirallas, Deulofeu
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
Did we hit the post 2 times or 3 times that half?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on February 13, 2016, 09:56:25 PM
Lennon and cleverly both playing brilliantly, but can't shake the feeling Deulofeu would give James Chester PTSD if he came on here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 09:56:25 PM
Deulofeu played on the left against the Shite in the 3-3 game during his first spell, I'm sure.

Remember him storming through the yawning chasm in the midfield left by Stevie G La multiple times.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 09:57:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbGyrMdW8AAH48i.jpg)

I really am staggered we are losing. Yes Robles screws the goal though, he's not graceful for a keeper for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 09:57:20 PM
Didn't realize Pienaar was on the bench, he can unlock a tight defence with a tricky pass.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 09:57:45 PM
Did we hit the post 2 times or 3 times that half?

Twice, one from Barkley and one from Cleverley.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 09:57:55 PM
Reckon we get Robles off and play keeper when need.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2016, 09:58:19 PM
Did we hit the post 2 times or 3 times that half?
Post once, crossbar once.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 09:58:25 PM
Didn't realize Pienaar was on the bench, he can unlock a tight defence with a tricky pass.

Sure there's a bad Adam Johnson joke hidden in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 10:00:44 PM
Sure there's a bad Adam Johnson joke hidden in here somewhere.

Only if you're Lawro.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
Sure there's a bad Adam Johnson joke hidden in here somewhere.
Michael Oliver looks like he'd be mates with Adam Johnson.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 10:01:33 PM
Need everyone to be patient here as we could easily have scored.

They should have had a couple of good chances where Rondon messed up the final pass so there's no point in opening the game up before the last 20-30 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:02:43 PM
No.

Bench: Howard, Baines, Kone, Osman, Pienaar, Mirallas, Deulofeu

Might be tempted to give Mirallas a go. Can be good for a goal in the sort of positions we're getting into.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:02:57 PM
COME ONNNNNNN
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:04:01 PM
I'd imagine he shouldn't have much trouble cutting inside if need be.

Maybe, but it is not the straightforward swap that people like to make it out to be. Particularly on the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:04:05 PM
What a tune.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 10:04:24 PM
We'll win this easily. 11to5 now. Well worth a few quid. 3 or 4 1 this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 10:05:42 PM
Reckon Barkley might just smash a long range beauty in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
Stream down... nooooo :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:05:55 PM
Boobies.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
Needs to start dealing out yellows for time wasting.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:06:13 PM
http://giostreams.eu/26.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 10:06:42 PM
A 1-0 lead is a dangerous lead.

Oops sorry that's only for us!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
deliberately kicking the ball away no longer a yellow card?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
We hit three past these shithouses at their place, should have been about 4 or 5 already this game.

Come on Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:08:05 PM
http://mamahd.com/watch-sports-live-stream-free-online5-1.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:08:22 PM
Christ I fucking love Arron.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:09:37 PM
Why foul him there?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:09:40 PM
Ah finally, a yellow card!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:10:37 PM
we really should be burying this shite, whether they're ultra defensive or otherwise. so fucking frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
West Brom yellow cards, like buses...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on February 13, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
Oliver loves it when the crowd's on his side, we'll get a soft pen from him at some point.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
coleman fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
feels like the floodgates will open after we get our first
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-05-2015/tXhguB.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 10:14:36 PM
very hard game with this ugly team WBA !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:15:32 PM
What is with all the shitty powder puff efforts.

Wrap your fucking foot around it!

Are you a man or a fucking flump!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:15:39 PM
this is like watching barcelona v barrow. only the score is a shock...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:16:01 PM
Mirallas would win us this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:16:16 PM
this is like watching barcelona v barrow. only the score is a shock...

Barcelona v Celtic a few years back.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 10:16:16 PM
Lennon needs to keep running at McClean, get him sent off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
West Brom have not just shut up shop, they've closed for the summer for refurbishments.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/320/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2016/2/13/c2a8720d-8f78-4a23-bf34-44c5dafaede3.png)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:17:19 PM
Bhris Cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:17:38 PM
:snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:17:44 PM
One thing I'm thankful for is that I'm not a season ticket holder at the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Would've gone with a winger myself...we shall see.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Did he really not give that free kick?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Kone... what ???
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:18:13 PM
I don't think that's the change we needed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:18:24 PM
Swerve kone
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:18:31 PM
Kone and not Del?
Sometimes his subs is really awkward!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 10:18:33 PM
how is that not a foul on Barry?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:18:41 PM
Kone... what ???

I don't even bother getting riled up about his sub decisions any more, I just expect it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 13, 2016, 10:19:00 PM
Imagine following a team that has Chris Brunt to replace James McLean.

Oh good, Kone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:19:05 PM
Gah.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
four, four fuckin' two
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on February 13, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
Must have been a typo on the sub board, meant 19 rather than 9,right?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 13, 2016, 10:19:55 PM
Just noticed West Broms sponsor looks like a weird Tibetan Grand Theft Auto logo.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:20:13 PM
Lukaku needs to get in this game man.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:20:35 PM
You need a 'match-winner' here and its just not Kone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:20:53 PM
22 shots to 4.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:20:56 PM
the script awaits another west brom breakaway...but hope to fuck i'm wrong.

shit, that was close...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Right sub for me, we need more bodies in the box
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:21:23 PM
That was lazy defending.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:21:44 PM
That would have been Kones fault that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:21:58 PM
fuck off kone just fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 10:22:25 PM
last 25 min and still same joke !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on February 13, 2016, 10:23:05 PM
Where's a Russian player of the year when you need one?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:23:07 PM
Kone and not Del?
Sometimes his subs is really awkward!

It is not awkward for not bringing on Gerard. Gerard has never played on the left.

Should have brought on Mirallas, however.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:23:09 PM
We can pack it in with those stupid floated crosses, that's not going to work against a Pulis side
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:23:18 PM
Ahhhhhh my little Kone, what a wonderful little footballer you are, as Del and Pienaar and Mirallas look on from the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:23:42 PM
Kone could have been the answer. But if you put it nicely so has he so far not been that answer.........
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 10:24:41 PM
How many warnings can Foster get?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:24:43 PM
It is not awkward for not bringing on Gerard. Gerard has never played on the left.

Should have brought on Mirallas, however.

Yes he has, stop spouting shit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 10:24:45 PM
all of the other results going our way but we just can't seem to get the job done
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on February 13, 2016, 10:25:04 PM
Good yellow.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:25:10 PM
Hmm. We've gone backwards these last few mins.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fern on February 13, 2016, 10:25:44 PM
Kone up to his usual best eh?

Someone throw me a stream link. All others have failed :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:25:49 PM
Lost count of the amount of hand ball claims too.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:26:12 PM
This isnt Rom's kind of game either, all 'back-to-goal' play and nothing to run onto.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 10:26:27 PM
They've largely contained us this half.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:26:30 PM
Yes he has, stop spouting shit.

Not for Everton. Certainly not this season.

I am not the one talking Shit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on February 13, 2016, 10:26:38 PM
Can't believe that kone substitution you know.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:26:40 PM
I've lost interest
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
Kone has been woeful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 10:26:56 PM
Seem to be getting less and less urgent. Do they realize we are losing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 10:27:00 PM
Lukaku had his poorest game for a while bringing Kone on to help him out makes a lot of sense
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:27:19 PM
It is not awkward for not bringing on Gerard. Gerard has never played on the left.

Should have brought on Mirallas, however.

It's already been established he has.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: antenasport on February 13, 2016, 10:27:27 PM
here is http://antenasport.com/live1.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:27:35 PM
why why why did he bring Kone on??? killed the game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Kone has been no worse than anyonee else since he came on. Hes not to blame for everything
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bwana on February 13, 2016, 10:27:59 PM
All I have to say now (67th minute):

It would be nice if...

Whatever. Things won't change.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:28:34 PM
Think we've ran out of ideas tbh.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:28:50 PM
This is pathetic.

Bet there is not even an ounce of movement on the bench either.

Fuck you Martinez, it is like he doesn't want to win the game.

This shitty tippy tappy garbage is getting us nowhere.

Get fucking wingers on and try something different.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Polledreng on February 13, 2016, 10:29:14 PM
Kone has been no worse than anyonee else since he came on. Hes not to blame for everything
no that's Howard
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Mental how we still have Barry and McCarthy on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:29:34 PM
68 minutes gone.

At home.

1-0 down.

3 wingers sat on the bench.

Just do one bobby.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 13, 2016, 10:30:03 PM
Kone up to his usual best eh?

Someone throw me a stream link. All others have failed :(

http://livesoccerfooty.com/sport/live18.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:30:19 PM
It's already been established he has.



Even if he has once or twice, my point still stands.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:30:24 PM
If the Baggies go any deeper here they'll end up in the Mersey...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
The kone sub has killed the game
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:31:02 PM
Mental how we still have Barry and McCarthy on the pitch.

One of the things I most dislike about Martinez. He never, even subs either of the two CMs.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:31:40 PM
Even if he has once or twice, my point still stands.

It is not awkward for not bringing on Gerard. Gerard has never played on the left.

Should have brought on Mirallas, however.

Okay.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
victor on. we can still win this...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:32:18 PM
Victor 'goals' Anichebe there
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:32:49 PM
Does he realise we're getting beat here?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:32:52 PM
I think West Brom's tactics have demoralised our players. As the game nears the end, West Brom are becoming more confident of the win.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: duncandisorderly on February 13, 2016, 10:33:16 PM
Shite this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:33:34 PM
Such a poor manager at changing a game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
lennon off for del. not sure i like that...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
Aaron Lennon off? Ok then...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
take McCarthy off, put Del through the middle. fuck sake.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:33:43 PM
Okay.

What is your point. I conceded that I might have been wrong that he did play on the left once or twice during his first spell (I am wrong on occasion), but then pointed out that my argument was still valid. You are making something out of nothing. Fuck off.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:33:48 PM
Takin off Lennon??!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:33:49 PM
Could even get a pen if Geri gets a run at them.

At last !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:33:56 PM
Kone has been no worse than anyonee else since he came on. Hes not to blame for everything

Not to blame, but subs are meant to add impetus and ideas.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:33:57 PM
Yano what, in with the fans booing there
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: duncandisorderly on February 13, 2016, 10:34:10 PM
Lukaku's done fuck all
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
Should be McCarthy off.

Just a waste of a sub bringing Kone on, you are a clown Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:34:50 PM
This is painful management
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on February 13, 2016, 10:34:53 PM
Baffled as to why McCarthy hasn't been sacrificed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:35:15 PM
Yano what, in with the fans booing there

Was that even English?.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
Takin off Lennon??!

He hadn't been as involved as much this half. Played very well though. Sometimes a different approach can be helpful...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 10:35:40 PM
At least in the first half we were hitting the woodwork. We've done fuck all this half
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:35:55 PM

Was that even English?.

Yes
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Escla on February 13, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
lennon off for del. not sure i like that...
That's absolutely feckin mental ! Martinez has lost it !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:36:14 PM
Even a draw is shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:36:34 PM
Yano what, in with the fans booing there

Booing Martinez is called for at times.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:36:38 PM
To lighten the mood, next weeks FA Cup opponents are losing 3-1 at home to Stoke.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 13, 2016, 10:36:39 PM
Doesn't seem the best idea to take our most dangerous midfielder off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:36:45 PM
The fizz and buzz from the first half is gone with Kone being on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 10:36:54 PM
Does Martinez actually know you can play two wingers at the same time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:36:57 PM

He hadn't been as involved as much this half. Played very well though. Sometimes a different approach can be helpful...
Agree. Like having threats on both wings....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 10:37:13 PM
weve been poor this half

should have at least of been level at half time
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:37:42 PM
This is why the shouts for 5th place were really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:37:46 PM
Osman coming on next...

Kone off?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:37:58 PM
osman coming on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:38:06 PM
More time wasting tactics.

Should be about 7 mins added on, watch there will be 3.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:38:10 PM
OMG Osman now...

Unreal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
Rather see Pienaar ahead of Ossie.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:38:23 PM
Arouna game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on February 13, 2016, 10:38:24 PM
West ham and utd losing, we have blown a massive opportunity here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bwana on February 13, 2016, 10:38:32 PM
This'll be another "we should've won, phenomenal"-defeat.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:38:40 PM
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
No Mirallas? Sound.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:39:28 PM
No Mirallas? Sound.

If it is not for McCarthy or Barry....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:39:40 PM
This is why the shouts for 5th place were really fucking stupid.

Agree, with this utter cunt at the helm we are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 10:40:06 PM
Every sub wrong today Martinez fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on February 13, 2016, 10:40:34 PM
West ham and utd losing, we have blown a massive opportunity here.

Sorry just seen the hammers score!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on February 13, 2016, 10:40:35 PM
How many shots? Jesus.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
I can understand this change, we need somebody who can play in a position when there are 11 defenders.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
Now I know why streams die, saves you watching this sort of frustrating shite
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:42:25 PM
This was made for a Mirallas bit of magic but no we get Kone & Osman.  Joke.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
we deserve something here...and i hope west fucking brom get relegated.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueBeagle on February 13, 2016, 10:43:11 PM
Kone is fucking garbage. Absolute fucking garbage.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 10:44:01 PM
fair play to wba

I hate Pulis, hes a proper cunt but his team can defend
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:44:21 PM
Jagielka wide left.

What has kone done, what was his intentions when bringing him on?

Mirallas and Pienaar would have provided some urgency and intelligent play.

Kone offers absolutely fucking nothing.

Seriously, he is such a cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:44:44 PM

I can understand this change, we need somebody who can play in a position when there are 11 defenders.
Me too.
It was his first sub that killed our momentum!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:44:55 PM
Trying to walk it in... SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
I've lost it with kone now. Utter shite
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fern on February 13, 2016, 10:45:28 PM
Sick of this, there's really no defending it sometimes.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Escla on February 13, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
another feckin weekend ruined, Martinez absolutely clueless !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:46:04 PM
We look like we could play another hour here without scoring
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:46:18 PM
We will score here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on February 13, 2016, 10:46:25 PM
why the fuck is Kone on the pitch. he's done fuck all. we need players to run at them, we won't beat them in the air
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:46:35 PM

Me too.
It was his first sub that killed our momentum!

A thousand times this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
We will score here.

or not. haha
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:46:42 PM
Not happening. :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:46:45 PM
THAT WAS THE CHANCE.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:46:49 PM
just not gonna happen is it :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 10:46:50 PM
They had to double up on Lennon. Surely it was obvious to then put width on the left? not make it more narrow?. The man is an idiot. And then to take lennon off. Absolute shambles.

West broms game plan worked, ours didnt. Anybody who says we played well is wrong
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:46:58 PM
I am just glad we don't have to play these fuckers again this season
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
Knew after WBA went 1-0 up, this would be the outcome.

Letting west brom get the first goal is awful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: super_ape89 on February 13, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
Kone is horse shit, sorry but he is.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 10:47:33 PM
Oh Ross
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on February 13, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
We need 90 minutes time added on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 10:48:02 PM
Everyone slating Kone but he's only been shit for 25 minutes. Lukaku and Barkley have been sub par since kick off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:48:02 PM
I'm going postal on anyone that comes on here and spouts 'fine margins'
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:48:14 PM
Even if we'd not conceded, 0-0 at home to these would still be utter shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:48:30 PM

Everyone slating Kone but he's only been shit for 25 minutes. Lukaku and Barkley have been sub par since kick off.

Lukaku has been shite for a while now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
another feckin weekend ruined, Martinez absolutely clueless !
We've had 30 shots and 80% possession - that's due to the way he's set us up. He can't get to the pitch and put it in the net for us!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 10:48:37 PM
Why wasnt a defensive mid took off earlier aswell jesus christ.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:48:46 PM

They had to double up on Lennon. Surely it was obvious to then put width on the left? not make it more narrow?. The man is an idiot. And then to take lennon off. Absolute shambles.

West broms game plan worked, ours didnt. Anybody who says we played well is wrong

We haven't played well, we just have much better players.

This loss is down to Martinez, we've got the better players but he's been outthought by Pulis.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 10:48:58 PM
31 shots to 5 sometimes I hate football
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:49:14 PM
Played better the first half.

Tired legs from 120 mins mid week, Martinez of course wont see that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 10:49:16 PM
I'm going postal on anyone that comes on here and spouts 'fine margins'
We've done more than enough to win the game
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 10:49:31 PM
Lukaku has been shite for a while now.

His technique is poor, doesn't suit games like this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:49:34 PM
Lukaku has been shite for a while now.

He at least was doing well with his hold up play up until today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:49:37 PM
Everyone slating Kone but he's only been shit for 25 minutes. Lukaku and Barkley have been sub par since kick off.

Barkley has been alright. Unlucky not to score.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 10:49:41 PM

They had to double up on Lennon. Surely it was obvious to then put width on the left? not make it more narrow?. The man is an idiot. And then to take lennon off. Absolute shambles.

West broms game plan worked, ours didnt. Anybody who says we played well is wrong
We have played quite well. It's just finishing in first half and tactics in the second half that let us down.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brittcop1 on February 13, 2016, 10:49:42 PM
fair play to wba

I hate Pulis, hes a proper cunt but his team can defend
Yeah they can do that but omfg what a frikkin drab drab team...I couldn't imagine ever wanting to get out of bed to watch these goons...Tony Pullis' is to exciting football as Stalin was to the Catholic church! We may well lose this but I'm proud of our team and what we try to do.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:49:52 PM

Everyone slating Kone but he's only been shit for 25 minutes. Lukaku and Barkley have been sub par since kick off.

Don't this Barkley has played poorly
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 10:49:57 PM
I hate him, I just fucking hate him, it is the simple things he misses.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:49:59 PM
even if we score, which we wont, the subs (kone) was atrocious. killed the game completely. DONT take Lennon off when he has been the best player by a mile....etc etc. Just fucking shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
Peterborough played better against these...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 10:50:56 PM
just not gonna happen is it :(

Even if it did its only for a draw, which just isn't good enough at home to shite like this
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: irishtoffee on February 13, 2016, 10:50:59 PM
How much injury time is there? What's left of it
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 10:51:55 PM
Fairly predictable when they scored. We've been Pulis'd.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
Cant remember many saves by Foster.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 10:52:10 PM
How much injury time is there? What's left of it

We could have an extra 20 and we still wouldnt score
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:52:27 PM

We've done more than enough to win the game

We haven't.

Undone by our inability to defend set pieces.

Too predictable going forward.

The manager made the wrong subs.

Complete lack of urgency second half.

These traits have continued from day one of the season.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brittcop1 on February 13, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
We have played quite well. It's just finishing in first half and tactics in the second half that let us down.
.     We played well...we created chances, we played a team with 10 guys in the box. .it's frikkin hard...it happens to the best
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: super_ape89 on February 13, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Bobby is clueless mate, Lennon was rinsing the wing as well, gutted.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 13, 2016, 10:52:51 PM
should of scored.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:53:15 PM
Gah. We've had the chances.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
Typical Everton. Up one week, down the next.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Have to say, despite Pulis's shithouse tactics, what a fucking defensive performance from WBA.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Well, back to normality it is.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
Oh well, fuck this.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 10:54:44 PM
We tried to push them even after going down to 10 men, but it wasn't to be.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blob on February 13, 2016, 10:54:57 PM
mugged by pulis, again...  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 13, 2016, 10:55:02 PM
We havent played well at all. We played in a way which west brom let us. Cant remember foster making any good saves
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:55:12 PM
Revert to form in spectacular fashion. Problems creep back in. Martinez stops being proactive. Makes horrid substitutions once again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 10:55:16 PM
Booooo Kone. His fault Barkleys missed and sitter and repeatedly been caught in possession late on. His fault Lukaku has been shit. His fault Deulofeu has been poor. His fault Osmans done nowt either. Fuck that cunts responsible for global warming and the holocast.  Honestly youre a bunch of cunts. No he hasnt been great but nor have a whole load of others 2nd half.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2016, 10:55:18 PM
That was shit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 10:55:23 PM
Should have 7 mins of time here. But we won't.

Doesn't look like it'd make a difference unfortunately.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 10:55:32 PM
The only satisfying bit of this game is gonna be hearing the boos at the end.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on February 13, 2016, 10:55:43 PM

Gah. We've had the chances.

We've only had one chance that you could call clear cut
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 10:55:45 PM
West Brom would have done this to anyone, in my opinion.

They score from set pieces in just about every match they play so it's hardly down to our inability to defend them that they scored.

Bit of bad luck hitting the posts.

Substitutions were atrocious, in these sort of matches we're playing with 10 men with McCarthy in the team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on February 13, 2016, 10:55:55 PM
Phenomenal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 10:56:17 PM
well that was shit

cost me 200 pounds as well

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:56:30 PM

Booooo Kone. His fault Barkleys missed and sitter and repeatedly been caught in possession late on. His fault Lukaku has been shit. His fault Deulofeu has been poor. His fault Osmans done nowt either. Fuck that cunts responsible for global warming and the holocast.  Honestly youre a bunch of cunts. No he hasnt been great but nor have a whole load of others 2nd half.

Calm down.

Other players have been criticised as well.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: super_ape89 on February 13, 2016, 10:56:34 PM
So in the last kicks of the game, we play sideways and the whistle blows.  :bonk:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 10:56:36 PM
Deulofeu was pretty shit when he came on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 13, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
A whole new world of awfulness
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 13, 2016, 10:57:07 PM
Haha. Normal service resumed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on February 13, 2016, 10:57:37 PM
In summary:

Shite
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 10:57:39 PM
As a one off that can happen.

But it's not a one off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
14 corners to West Brom's 1

Wonder what we should be practising in training this week.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: charlatan on February 13, 2016, 10:57:59 PM
Absolute shambles.  Dreadful again.  Looked like we'd salvage something until his genius subs.  Like for like every time.

Just go
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 10:58:00 PM
well that was shit

cost me 200 pounds as well



Feel your pain, but risking 200 of your money on a situation requiring Everton to win a game of football possibly wasn't the best idea you've ever had.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: jongre123 on February 13, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
Can't believe how Mirallas is being left to rot on the bench especially today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 10:58:14 PM
whens the takeover happening?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 13, 2016, 10:58:16 PM
Deulofeu was pretty shit when he came on.

He's been shit since christmas, not sure why people were begging for him to come on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
How many Valentines days have just been ruined?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 10:58:41 PM
Booooo Kone. His fault Barkleys missed and sitter and repeatedly been caught in possession late on. His fault Lukaku has been shit. His fault Deulofeu has been poor. His fault Osmans done nowt either. Fuck that cunts responsible for global warming and the holocast.  Honestly youre a bunch of cunts. No he hasnt been great but nor have a whole load of others 2nd half.

Don't be daft, of course it isn't his fault, but he was altogether the wrong player to be brought on. The pressure on West Brom immediately eased as soon as he came on.

Missing chances is part of the game, but allowing your opponent a breather when they're rocking is a huge tactical mistake.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dchans on February 13, 2016, 10:59:02 PM
Feel your pain, but risking 200 of your money on a situation requiring Everton to win a game of football possibly wasn't the best idea you've ever had.

Risked a lot less - had a treble on and we let me down lol
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 10:59:25 PM

As a one off that can happen.

But it's not a one off.

Yep.

What I keep saying too people when this happens.

Still people will use the 'bad luck' line. Not being able to defend set pieces isn't bad luck.

The manager making the wrong subs isn't bad luck.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 10:59:42 PM
Martinez out shit subs no clue, best squad in years wasted, whatever happened to two wingers against a boring bastard side like Weast Brom ? When Arouna came on it galvanised them.Had enough Martinez out now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 10:59:48 PM
Very frustrating because we were clearly the better team but when not one player can score in that many attempts then there's only so much you can do. I don't think Martinez got his subs right today, Deulofeu rarely makes an impact from the bench and Lennon was our best player but still that game should have been ours.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 10:59:53 PM
The team selection and substitutions did not reflect the team we were playing. We knew how West Brom would play, but they ended up dictating the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 10:59:55 PM
Absolute shambles.  Dreadful again.  Looked like we'd salvage something until his genius subs.  Like for like every time.

Just go
The players aren't to blame?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on February 13, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
The subs where just, you know what I can't even be arsed.

No game management, just don't like Martinez and his lack of it.

Just poo all round.

Unlucky not to have been about 4 up in the first half.

But take a look at your fellow manager Pulis, Martinez, because that is what game management is all about, literally none of his subs made the impact needed, because they where the wrong ones or in the wrong order.

I'm just tired of the Martinez regime.

I told myself, and for good reason, not to get carried away with 3, 3-0 wins against 3 absolutely scrotums of sides.

Bollocks to the lot of it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brittcop1 on February 13, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
We haven't.

Undone by our inability to defend set pieces.

Too predictable going forward.

The manager made the wrong subs.

Complete lack of urgency second half.

These traits have continued from day one of the season.        The majority of people on this forum are the most negative twats I've ever fucking heard...bitch about no takeover whine about a take over bitch about EVERY  player...lazy Lukako, Ross Barkley's passing...ffs o wonder we re known by some as the bitters....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:00:32 PM
Bizarre lack of Mirallas.

Bangs on about him playing an important role in the 2nd half of the season, then when he does play looks quite good, then not to be seen again behind Kone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: duncandisorderly on February 13, 2016, 11:00:46 PM
We've done more than enough to win the game
How have we done enough? We couldn't score, how many times have we done enough this season but failed to do anything? Its a poor excuse
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 11:00:55 PM
Manager being out of his depth, out of new ideas, and generally shite isn't bad luck either.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:01:14 PM
Again, not Kone's individual fault.

But he hasn't played well for months, certainly not out wide.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:01:22 PM
Calm down.

Other players have been criticised as well.

Come on. Theres many claiming the Kone substitution changed the fucking game. As if hes single handedly made others play worse or something. Sometimes its no ones fault. Im as negative as they come but todays just 1 of them days. We looked good defensively, dominated the game and lost.

Kone wasnt good but nor was a lot of others 2nd half. Just 1 of them days and it doesnt always have to be someones fault.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Thom on February 13, 2016, 11:01:40 PM
Two steps forward, one step back.

Substituting Kone on messed with our shape and caused to slow our attacks down even further, could have brought Osman or Pienaar on earlier for an incisive pass from out on the left wing and he definitely shouldn't have taken Lennon off.

Not a lot wrong with that performance, but luck wasn't on our side again. Same old, eh?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 13, 2016, 11:01:49 PM

whens the takeover happening?
More looking forward to the new manager.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 11:01:58 PM
That was the most frustrating game since the last stupid game where we dropped points.

Strange that we completely lost momentum second half.

Subs drained the life out of the game.

The big problem was concededing the first goal though. Set us up for them to park the bus. They didn't actually do it well first half...they stayed in the game by luck and our profligacy in front of goal. However, second half they were more organized and we seemed to run out of ideas. That's when subs would've been key but they just undermined us and exacerbated our ssues further.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on February 13, 2016, 11:02:03 PM
If you figure that Pulis' strategy gives his team a 15-25% chance of winning then look at it like this -- we caught them on the wrong day.

Obviously, it's a match we should be winning and many of the players weren't good enough today. But this is what Pulis does -- rides his luck to safety, year after year after year.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueBeagle on February 13, 2016, 11:02:11 PM
Arouna Kone - Every oppositions dream.

Will not score
Will not create
Will not threaten
Will make the team poorer all round
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:02:21 PM
Bizarre lack of Mirallas.

Bangs on about him playing an important role in the 2nd half of the season, then when he does play looks quite good, then not to be seen again behind Kone.

Could not agree more.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 13, 2016, 11:02:51 PM
Booooo Kone. His fault Barkleys missed and sitter and repeatedly been caught in possession late on. His fault Lukaku has been shit. His fault Deulofeu has been poor. His fault Osmans done nowt either. Fuck that cunts responsible for global warming and the holocast.  Honestly youre a bunch of cunts. No he hasnt been great but nor have a whole load of others 2nd half.

If you're going to drag 6 million dead into a football thread at least get your spelling right.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:03:03 PM
If you figure that Pulis' strategy gives his team a 15-25% chance of winning then look at it like this -- we caught them on the wrong day.

Obviously, it's a match we should be winning and many of the players weren't good enough today. But this is what Pulis does -- rides his luck to safety, year after year after year.

It is not riding his luck. He knows what he is doing and is excellent at setting up teams to defend. Credit to him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
Moyes thread in T minus 3,2....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 13, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
The average position map they shown at half time summed the game up
They had five people on the edge of their 18 yard box but no wider than 6 yard box
Our left hand side again was totally anonymous
Cleverley was right player to go off but not for Kone
Lennon was a bad sub too

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on February 13, 2016, 11:03:09 PM
The players aren't to blame?
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We looked disjointed there, he brought off our best player, he has no imagination at all, tired of winning the possession, want to win games. West Bromwich were there for the taking there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 11:03:09 PM
Strange subs today, especially considering Lukaku was absolutely well contained by them. Not sure what Martinez's obsession with Kone on the left wing is all about, yes he scored a hat trick against Sunderland but he hasn't exactly been the same since.

Osman on when we had Pienaar and Mirallas still on the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: charlatan on February 13, 2016, 11:04:03 PM
The players aren't to blame?

Of course they are culpable.  However, he sets them up.  He's done nothing about us leaking from set pieces every week.  He plays 2 defensive midfielders every week.  He sets us up so our left hand side is incapable of anything going forwards. I didn't think we were that bad until the substitutions.  Putting Kone on was like admitting defeat.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on February 13, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
Just checked in, foolishly expecting a dull 1-0 victory 😕

So, 34 shots...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:04:09 PM
I just hope Niasse is fucking amazing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on February 13, 2016, 11:04:10 PM
Wtf was Martinez playing at with the subs there, fucking disgraceful
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:04:38 PM
Come on. Theres many claiming the Kone substitution changed the fucking game. As if hes single handedly made others play worse or something. Sometimes its no ones fault. Im as negative as they come but todays just 1 of them days. We looked good defensively, dominated the game and lost.

Kone wasnt good but nor was a lot of others 2nd half. Just 1 of them days and it doesnt always have to be someones fault.

You are missing the point. The criticisms are not generally directed at Kone but at Martinez for bringing Kone on, which unquestionably did impact the shape and performance of the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:04:48 PM
the Martinez out stuff today is just bollocks too. Wasnt our best day but its another where we've looked much better defensively. Hes not got much rope left given whats gone previously but christ we cant blame him for everything either. If wed played like this all season wed be much higher up the table. Just not our day
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 13, 2016, 11:04:53 PM
Said it before we'll bumble along and win a few, lose a few. Ultimately his contract should be terminated end of the season whoever the owners are.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on February 13, 2016, 11:05:52 PM
Again, not Kone's individual fault.

But he hasn't played well for months, certainly not out wide.

That's the crux of it.

We had lost/were losing momentum already when he came on but he did nothing to change it. Mirallas I would've thought could have been a goal threat as well as providing a bigger chance of getting an assist.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: pjk on February 13, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
It ruins the rest of the weekend this sort of result. I'm bemused by it all. We're winning away games because we allow teams to come on to us. We've lost how many games at home this season? I'm baffled. ???
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on February 13, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
If you figure that Pulis' strategy gives his team a 15-25% chance of winning then look at it like this -- we caught them on the wrong day.

Obviously, it's a match we should be winning and many of the players weren't good enough today. But this is what Pulis does -- rides his luck to safety, year after year after year.

say what you want about Pulis but he knows how to organise a game and he is tactically better than our own manager, it isnt luck that keeps his sides up, they should have beaten us at their ground too
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:07:19 PM
I think Pulis tactically just got lucky in terms of his gameplan. The goal allowed them to setup exactly how they wanted to. We have struggled for ten plus years to score against teams who play like this and under Martinez little has changed. If we had got that early goal it would have been different but a lot of that has been said this season and the results just aren't good enough.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 11:07:28 PM

the Martinez out stuff today is just bollocks too. Wasnt our best day but its another where we've looked much better defensively. Hes not got much rope left given whats gone previously but christ we cant blame him for everything either. If wed played like this all season wed be much higher up the table. Just not our day

You're having a nightmare here.

Done on a set piece again and nothing to do for the rest of the game. How did we look better defensively today?

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 11:08:32 PM
Amazing how many people thought we were going to surge up the table after beating Stoke and Newcastle.

Nothing has changed and no lessons have been learnt.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: charlatan on February 13, 2016, 11:08:49 PM
Just not our day

Again?  We seem to be having a lot of them at Goodison
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
the Martinez out stuff today is just bollocks too. Wasnt our best day but its another where we've looked much better defensively. Hes not got much rope left given whats gone previously but christ we cant blame him for everything either. If wed played like this all season wed be much higher up the table. Just not our day

I do, however, agree that we did look better defensively. Of the opinion that their goal was a bit lucky and there was not a whole lot we could have done to defend against it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 11:10:52 PM
Bring Kone on was supposed to help Lukaku out up top who had a pretty poor game it was an obvious move to help the ball stick further up. It didn't come off because well he's pretty hit and miss on a good day but it was the right idea.

Deulofeu for Lennon was the oddest move, but again people were calling for it at half time and even before a ball was kicked it was predicted he'd be the answer so it's understandable to a point.

It was never going to be an easy game but as soon as Robles watched the ball sail over his head without trying to prevent it going in it got a lot harder. We could and should have had scored a few in that first half alone but the luck clearly wasn't with us. I'd imagine Pulis and his team feel mighty relieved and will be very happy going home with the points after getting battered for a good 70+ minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:11:01 PM
You are missing the point. The criticisms are not generally directed at Kone but at Martinez for bringing Kone on, which unquestionably did impact the shape and performance of the rest of the team.

Youd think we had Messi on the bench. He brought 3 players on and all 3 did the square route of fuck all. So we can assume all 3 were wrong. Who did we all want on?? Im assuming Mirallas now. He may well have disappeared. Just not our day. Absolutely not Martinezs fault. We were good defensively. We concede a goal and everyones shouting nothings changed. Were we hoping to go the best part of 20 games without conceding 1?? Last few weeks weve looked a solid unit. Thats a vast improvement.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:11:55 PM

Strange subs today, especially considering Lukaku was absolutely well contained by them. Not sure what Martinez's obsession with Kone on the left wing is all about, yes he scored a hat trick against Sunderland but he hasn't exactly been the same since.

Osman on when we had Pienaar and Mirallas still on the bench?

Also Kone has only scored in about 6 appearances for us; 2 of those being League 2 sides.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 11:12:20 PM
I just can't believe how much McCarthy gets away contributing nothing.

I could see the logic in bringing Kone on but it should have been for McCarthy and Barkley playing 'deeper'. Cleverley should have gone off for Mirallas.

Frustrating all round but that's what West Brom do to teams.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 13, 2016, 11:12:47 PM
You're having a nightmare here.

Done on a set piece again and nothing to do for the rest of the game. How did we look better defensively today?

MLT I've come to realise is one of life's contrarians. There's not much point debating these types of questions because his view is quite simply dictated by wanting to be different to whatever the majority of others are saying.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 11:13:05 PM
Absolute shambles.  Dreadful again.  Looked like we'd salvage something until his genius subs.  Like for like every time.

Just go
The players aren't to blame?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:13:12 PM
You're having a nightmare here.

Done on a set piece again and nothing to do for the rest of the game. How did we look better defensively today?



We didnt concede hardly any chances. We looked like a solid unit. The goal was a flick on which looped into the top corner. We are allowed to be better and still concede a goal now and again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:13:37 PM

Youd think we had Messi on the bench. He brought 3 players on and all 3 did the square route of fuck all. So we can assume all 3 were wrong. Who did we all want on?? Im assuming Mirallas now. He may well have disappeared. Just not our day. Absolutely not Martinezs fault. We were good defensively. We concede a goal and everyones shouting nothings changed. Were we hoping to go the best part of 20 games without conceding 1?? Last few weeks weve looked a solid unit. Thats a vast improvement.

The problem is all the other poor results at home since Arsenal in 2014.

People are bound to be more worried about the longer term regardless of whether this game was a bit better.

Well the first half.

The 2nd could have been from any point since that Arsenal game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
I just can't believe how much McCarthy gets away contributing nothing.

I could see the logic in bringing Kone on but it should have been for McCarthy and Barkley playing 'deeper'. Cleverley should have gone off for Mirallas.

Frustrating all round but that's what West Brom do to teams.

I think McCarthy does add solidity to our defense. We have looked much better defensively sine he has returned.

But I agree that once we were chasing the game, he should have gone off much earlier.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 11:14:15 PM
Also Kone has only scored in about 6 appearances for us; 2 of those being League 2 sides.

Once Niasse gets up to speed with the Premier League, I'm not sure if there is any point in keeping Kone - unless Lukaku leaves during the summer and we don't bring in a replacement.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:16:13 PM
Again?  We seem to be having a lot of them at Goodison

Such as? Think when you dominate a game like we did today its just luck. We weve in much more control today then we were against Palace. We didnt look solid in that game and conceded plenty of chances on the break. We should have won today. Norwich, Bournemouth, chelsea and Palace were all problems of our own making. Today we just didnt get the run.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on February 13, 2016, 11:16:41 PM
http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/aiden-mcgeady-everton-nightmare-after-7313062

I wonder which game Mirallas fucked up in?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:16:51 PM
Bring Kone on was supposed to help Lukaku out up top who had a pretty poor game it was an obvious move to help the ball stick further up. It didn't come off because well he's pretty hit and miss on a good day but it was the right idea.

Deulofeu for Lennon was the oddest move, but again people were calling for it at half time and even before a ball was kicked it was predicted he'd be the answer so it's understandable to a point.

It was never going to be an easy game but as soon as Robles watched the ball sail over his head without trying to prevent it going in it got a lot harder. We could and should have had scored a few in that first half alone but the luck clearly wasn't with us. I'd imagine Pulis and his team feel mighty relieved and will be very happy going home with the points after getting battered for a good 70+ minutes.

We did not need the ball to stick up front; we needed wide players to get at the opposition and create opportunities.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
Don't remember Ben foster making one save
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:17:50 PM
Also Kone has only scored in about 6 appearances for us; 2 of those being League 2 sides.

Hes playing on the wing. How many have our other wingers got?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:18:44 PM
http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/aiden-mcgeady-everton-nightmare-after-7313062

I wonder which game Mirallas fucked up in?

Interesting read. Thanks.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 11:18:59 PM
We did not need the ball to stick up front; we needed wide players to get at the opposition and create opportunities.

We had that already.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:19:20 PM
Hes playing on the wing. How many have our other wingers got?

In goals per minutes, Mirallas is crushing him. So not a great argument.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:19:45 PM
I'm the first to admit that I'm not a tactical genius, but even I could see that the most likely way to score past WBA today was going to be either a penalty after a surging run into the box or a first-time shot from just outside the box.

And that means Mirallas. Definitely not Kone, who always needs two touches to control a ball and another to set himself up for a shot.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:20:04 PM
MLT I've come to realise is one of life's contrarians. There's not much point debating these types of questions because his view is quite simply dictated by wanting to be different to whatever the majority of others are saying.

Yeah Im doing it to be arkward. Controlled the game start to finish. Had 90% of the chances. Id take that every week as we'd win most weeks. When its shit I say its shit. Today wasnt shit. We dominated the game and lost. Boooooooooooooo.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on February 13, 2016, 11:20:31 PM
Every time you invest a bit of faith, they let you down. Can't even be arsed getting angry about it anymore.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:21:28 PM
We had that already.

On one side, and it was working - creating our only real goal scoring opportunities. On the other, Cleverly was poor today and not the right option against West Brom.

Having a winger on the other side too would have forced West Brom wider and given us more space to operate in. But bringing in Kone just made us more narrow, allowing West Brom to clog up the box, which they did with great success.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:21:45 PM
Yeah Im doing it to be arkward. Controlled the game start to finish. Had 90% of the chances. Id take that every week as we'd win most weeks. When its shit I say its shit. Today wasnt shit. We dominated the game and lost. Boooooooooooooo.

We certainly dominated the game but we nearly always do, the issue as ever is that if we play against a team who aren't arsed about possession or going forward we are fucked. That isn't good enough
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:22:02 PM

Hes playing on the wing. How many have our other wingers got?

Well Mirallas comfortably beats that.

Even Ossie beats that.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on February 13, 2016, 11:22:17 PM
Really struggling here, in what world do you bring Osman on when your losing at home??? Kone was bad enough, the Lennon off, im fucking astonished here, i mean seriously!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:24:09 PM
The problem is all the other poor results at home since Arsenal in 2014.

People are bound to be more worried about the longer term regardless of whether this game was a bit better.

Well the first half.

The 2nd could have been from any point since that Arsenal game.

I dont disagree. Im not pro Martinez at all. Hes very little rope left cos of whats gone before. The issues have been defensive though and today like the last couple of weeks weve been much better defensively. Doesnt make me pro Martinez. Hes still got an awful lot to do to change my mind. If we controlled every game like we did today wed win most weeks
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:24:33 PM
Really struggling here, in what world do you bring Osman on when your losing at home??? Kone was bad enough, the Lennon off, im fucking astonished here, i mean seriously!

I actually did not mind the Osman sub theoretically. The idea there is that Osman can bring a bit of guile and creativity to help unlock a team sitting back.

Problem is that Osman is now past it, and does not really add anything.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:25:25 PM
In goals per minutes, Mirallas is crushing him. So not a great argument.

But by your arguement Lennon shouldnt be in the team? The suggestion is Kones goals record is poor? Is it for a winger?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:25:42 PM
The Osman sub wasn't the issue, the two subs preceding it were. Kone coming on for Lukaku I would have had no issue with.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2016, 11:26:14 PM
They allowed us to dominate the game.

They knew if they camped in their own box and allowed us to have the majority of the play, we'd find it really difficult to break them down.

We were shit today, really shit and the mangers inability to see what changes need to be made, both tactically and personnel wise, cost us again and will continue to cost us.

It took me 7 years to realise we would never achieve anything with Moyes.

It's took me 2 and a half years to realise that with Martinez. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 11:26:22 PM
On one side, and it was working - creating our only real goal scoring opportunities. On the other, Cleverly was poor today and not the right option against West Brom.

Having a winger on the other side too would have forced West Brom wider and given us more space to operate in. But bringing in Kone just made us more narrow, allowing West Brom to clog up the box, which they did with great success.

Cleverley wasn't poor at all, and the width came from Oviedo. Lukaku was easily marshalled all game and we looked far more dangerous when Barkley and Coleman were popping up in the middle from space he'd vacated, that's what he hoped Kone would add, getting someone close to Lukaku to either occupy more defenders and free up space or find space that had been freed up. Obviously Lennon had a very good game and was more threatening down the right but that doesn't mean we were poor down the left.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:26:31 PM
But by your arguement Lennon shouldnt be in the team? The suggestion is Kones goals record is poor? Is it for a winger?

It is.

Next question.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
But by your arguement Lennon shouldnt be in the team? The suggestion is Kones goals record is poor? Is it for a winger?

I was just responding to your incorrect statement that Kone is more of a goal threat than Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueski on February 13, 2016, 11:26:56 PM
That was an embarrassment to everton
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on February 13, 2016, 11:27:34 PM
Ronnie Goodlass says it's impossible to second-guess Martinez's subs

I'm not so sure
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:28:00 PM
We certainly dominated the game but we nearly always do, the issue as ever is that if we play against a team who aren't arsed about possession or going forward we are fucked. That isn't good enough

I actually dont think we nearly always do. We conceded many more chances to Palace, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Norwich. Games everyone moaned we were unlucky in. We werent unlucky in them games we defended like shit in all of them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:29:26 PM
Cleverley wasn't poor at all, and the width came from Oviedo. Lukaku was easily marshalled all game and we looked far more dangerous when Barkley and Coleman were popping up in the middle from space he'd vacated, that's what he hoped Kone would add, getting someone close to Lukaku to either occupy more defenders and free up space or find space that had been freed up. Obviously Lennon had a very good game and was more threatening down the right but that doesn't mean we were poor down the left.

There was no width from Oviedo, he's been decent lately but he didn't give a wide option all game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:30:22 PM
Cleverley wasn't poor at all, and the width came from Oviedo. Lukaku was easily marshalled all game and we looked far more dangerous when Barkley and Coleman were popping up in the middle from space he'd vacated, that's what he hoped Kone would add, getting someone close to Lukaku to either occupy more defenders and free up space or find space that had been freed up. Obviously Lennon had a very good game and was more threatening down the right but that doesn't mean we were poor down the left.

Cleverly was not doing anything awful but he added very little to our attack. I like him against better opposition, but he does not help us break teams down.

And yeah, I agree Lukaku was benefiting from playing off of others, but Coleman and Barkley were already getting into those spaces, and throwing Kone in just made it too crowded.

Width does not come from Oviedo if he has no one to link up with, and that is pretty much always the case when Kone comes on, because he completely abandons his side of the pitch (under Martinez's direction I realize) and leaves our left backs isolated.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
I was just responding to your incorrect statement that Kone is more of a goal threat than Mirallas.

Im gonna need a quote here as im pretty confident I never said that
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 13, 2016, 11:30:40 PM
That's 3 seasons running WBA tactics have been try and break us down, same result No goals
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
There was no width from Oviedo, he's been decent lately but he didn't give a wide option all game.

Today was an obvious match for Baines & Pienaar as well.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:31:51 PM
But by your arguement Lennon shouldnt be in the team? The suggestion is Kones goals record is poor? Is it for a winger?

For a winger who essentially fucks off from the wing and plays up front? It's fucking atrocious.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:32:31 PM
Im gonna need a quote here as im pretty confident I never said that

I thought that was what you were trying to imply based off of your earlier comment. But if I read it wrong, I apologize.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: charlatan on February 13, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
Cleverley wasn't poor at all

Cleverley was dreadful today, his worst game for us by a country mile
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueski on February 13, 2016, 11:32:54 PM
Not hard to understand his mindset in bringing on kone and osman obviously wanted players who can operate in tight spaces through the middle. Doesn't make it right though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: toffee_scot on February 13, 2016, 11:33:24 PM
Difficult to assess how good our defence is when playing against Tony Pulis's West Brom especially when their players spend most of the time camped in their own half.

They really took their chance with their corner and there were times where Rondon looked a good focal point for a counter attack. Otherwise Robles had a very very quiet game.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brittcop1 on February 13, 2016, 11:33:48 PM
say what you want about Pulis but he knows how to organise a game and he is tactically better than our own manager, it isnt luck that keeps his sides up, they should have beaten us at their ground too
.             I would fucking throw in the towel if we ever resembled a Pullis team...the is supposed to some entertainment derived from watching sports.. I will deal with our up and down but never dull brand of entertainment over ANYTHING  Pullis has ever managed to create
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 13, 2016, 11:33:56 PM
If any thing we made the game/tactics worse for ourselves crowding the box made less space, and played into Pulis's tactics ,
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on February 13, 2016, 11:34:10 PM
It's the manager who brings Kone on. We shouldn't be having a pop at the player. He's not good enough, but he's doing his best. It's the manager letting the club down with these shit decisions.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 13, 2016, 11:34:51 PM

The Osman sub wasn't the issue, the two subs preceding it were. Kone coming on for Lukaku I would have had no issue with.

I would have!

;)
Title: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueski on February 13, 2016, 11:35:05 PM
Cleverly was not doing anything awful but he added very little to our attack. I like him against better opposition, but he does not help us break teams down.

And yeah, I agree Lukaku was benefiting from playing off of others, but Coleman and Barkley were already getting into those spaces, and throwing Kone in just made it too crowded.

Width does not come from Oviedo if he has no one to link up with, and that is pretty much always the case when Kone comes on, because he completely abandons his side of the pitch (under Martinez's direction I realize) and leaves our left backs isolated.
the problem with width is that Martinez doesn't allow his fullbacks to overlap
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brittcop1 on February 13, 2016, 11:35:05 PM
Yeah Im doing it to be arkward. Controlled the game start to finish. Had 90% of the chances. Id take that every week as we'd win most weeks. When its shit I say its shit. Today wasnt shit. We dominated the game and lost. Boooooooooooooo.


Exactly,!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: charlatan on February 13, 2016, 11:35:18 PM
It's the manager who brings Kone on. We shouldn't be having a pop at the player. He's not good enough, but he's doing his best. It's the manager letting the club down with these shit decisions.

BINGO!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:36:10 PM
I would have!

;)
Ha you know what I mean! Lukaku having a stinker if you have to bring kone on he's a replacement for him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
I thought that was what you were trying to imply based off of your earlier comment. But if I read it wrong, I apologize.

Think I was more saying his goals record from the wing wasnt too bad. Kone isnt brilliant but you get a basic level from him every match. He'll try and hold it up. He'll try and link play and he scores the odd goal, not loads but hes scored a few this season. The problem with Mirallas is that he fucking disappears half the time. He doesnt play because you cant be certain he'll even involve himself some weeks.

Kones issues are 1s of talent. Mirallas are all attitude. I know which 1 Id rather be booing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on February 13, 2016, 11:36:42 PM
It's the manager who brings Kone on. We shouldn't be having a pop at the player. He's not good enough, but he's doing his best. It's the manager letting the club down with these shit decisions.

Spot on
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 11:36:50 PM
There was no width from Oviedo, he's been decent lately but he didn't give a wide option all game.

He hit the byline a lot in the first half, less so in the second half but he was always looking to attack down the line.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on February 13, 2016, 11:38:50 PM
Cleverly was not doing anything awful but he added very little to our attack. I like him against better opposition, but he does not help us break teams down.

And yeah, I agree Lukaku was benefiting from playing off of others, but Coleman and Barkley were already getting into those spaces, and throwing Kone in just made it too crowded.

Width does not come from Oviedo if he has no one to link up with, and that is pretty much always the case when Kone comes on, because he completely abandons his side of the pitch (under Martinez's direction I realize) and leaves our left backs isolated.

Coleman didn't pop up at all in the penalty area during the second half.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:40:21 PM
Think I was more saying his goals record from the wing wasnt too bad. Kone isnt brilliant but you get a basic level from him every match. He'll try and hold it up. He'll try and link play and he scores the odd goal, not loads but hes scored a few this season. The problem with Mirallas is that he fucking disappears half the time. He doesnt play because you cant be certain he'll even involve himself some weeks.

Kones issues are 1s of talent. Mirallas are all attitude. I know which 1 Id rather be booing

I don't think Mirallas attitude is anywhere near as bad as people like to make it out to be. He generally puts a a real shift in. And while I do think that he drifts out of matches on occasion, I believe that to be more of a mental issue rather than an attitude one.

At times over the previous two seasons, he has been our best player. And he has looked very good the last few matches. Don't get why you are writing him off the way you are.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:42:00 PM
Coleman didn't pop up at all in the penalty area during the second half.

In part because he was crowded out by Kone's introduction and then the decision to swap out Lennon.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:42:35 PM
I don't think Mirallas attitude is anywhere near as bad as people like to make it out to be. He generally puts a a real shift in. And while I do think that he drifts out of matches on occasion, I believe that to be more of a mental issue rather than an attitude one.

At times over the previous two seasons, he has been our best player. And he has looked very good the last few matches. Don't get why you are writing him off the way you are.

Im not writing him off. Hes been good recently. Im just saying it wasnt like weve brought on Stephen Hawkins instead of Messi. Neither are remotely close to perfect
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 13, 2016, 11:43:58 PM
Im not writing him off. Hes been good recently. Im just saying it wasnt like weve brought on Stephen Hawkins instead of Messi. Neither are remotely close to perfect

No but bringing Kone on hurt the rest of the team, and when teams are sitting back Mirallas is much more likely to create something, which is what we needed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:46:27 PM
No but bringing Kone on hurt the rest of the team, and when teams are sitting back Mirallas is much more likely to create something, which is what we needed.

Id take good hold up play over a good dribbler against a packed defence. Idont  think it was tactically wrong. Kone didnt play overly well which was the problem
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:46:44 PM
It's the manager who brings Kone on. We shouldn't be having a pop at the player. He's not good enough, but he's doing his best. It's the manager letting the club down with these shit decisions.

I don't think anyone's had a pop at Kone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 11:47:06 PM
They allowed us to dominate the game.

They knew if they camped in their own box and allowed us to have the majority of the play, we'd find it really difficult to break them down.

We were shit today, really shit and the mangers inability to see what changes need to be made, both tactically and personnel wise, cost us again and will continue to cost us.

It took me 7 years to realise we would never achieve anything with Moyes.

It's took me 2 and a half years to realise that with Martinez. 
What would you have done differently?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: cjohno100 on February 13, 2016, 11:48:23 PM
Im not writing him off. Hes been good recently. Im just saying it wasnt like weve brought on Stephen Hawkins instead of Messi. Neither are remotely close to perfect
stephen hawkins would of made more of an impact
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:51:31 PM
Think I was more saying his goals record from the wing wasnt too bad. Kone isnt brilliant but you get a basic level from him every match. He'll try and hold it up. He'll try and link play and he scores the odd goal, not loads but hes scored a few this season. The problem with Mirallas is that he fucking disappears half the time. He doesnt play because you cant be certain he'll even involve himself some weeks.

Kones issues are 1s of talent. Mirallas are all attitude. I know which 1 Id rather be booing

Okay, so imagine you're 1-0 down, you've got 30 minutes to turn the game around and you need someone to run at the defenders and do something they don't anticipate, who do you bring on?

An out of position striker, solid and unspectacular, who definitely won't be able to provide any of that, or the talented but erratic winger who's a bit of a knob, but if he's up for it, can do both?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2016, 11:51:43 PM
No but bringing Kone on hurt the rest of the team, and when teams are sitting back Mirallas is much more likely to create something, which is what we needed.
You're right; we should've brought Iniesta or Ozil on, they'd have unlocked their deep defence...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:53:29 PM
FFS lads, he's the most influential physicist since Albert Einstein, please learn to spell his fucking name, it's Hawking, not Hawkins.

:)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 11:53:44 PM
Sorry lads but I'm going to have to take issue with this Pulis praise.

Call me bitter, accuse me of sulking, or of being a football snob, or say that I should be focusing on our own team's failings instead; and you'd be right on all counts.

But I fucking despise Pulis and his ilk. Setting up for one point every week, not even trying to win a game and only doing so in spite of rather than because of the game plan to contain the opposition. All long balls, shit heel fouls to reorganise and taking 45 seconds for each goal kick. It's not good game-management or tactically astute: it's ugly, offensive to the spirit of the game and, frankly, it's shit. It's a recipe for 14th place and that's it.

Not really the thread for it but yeah, fuck you Pulis.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:55:17 PM
And yet you're a fan of Italian football.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:56:36 PM
And you're bitter. :)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on February 13, 2016, 11:56:48 PM
You're right; we should've brought Iniesta or Ozil on, they'd have unlocked their deep defence...

If you are struggling to break a team down you go for mercurial talent. Mirallas, Deulofeu hell even Osman could be described in this way.

Kone is the very antithesis of what we needed today, that's not his fault but it's the truth
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 13, 2016, 11:56:58 PM
And yet you're a fan of Italian football.

Perhaps this is tongue-in-cheek; but there isn't a single team in the current Serie A that plays in the manner of a Tony Pulis side.

Anyway, we digress.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 13, 2016, 11:58:21 PM
Perhaps this is tongue-in-cheek; but there isn't a single team in the current Serie A that plays in the manner of a Tony Pulis side.

Anyway, we digress.

Yeah, I was just trying to cheer you up mate with a bit of silliness. Don't take me seriously.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 13, 2016, 11:59:00 PM
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Okay, so imagine you're 1-0 down, you've got 30 minutes to turn the game around and you need someone to run at the defenders and do something they don't anticipate, who do you bring on?

An out of position striker, solid and unspectacular, who definitely won't be able to provide any of that, or the talented but erratic winger who's a bit of a knob, but if he's up for it, can do both?

I actually dont think either is an overly wonderful option. People would have been moaning if Deulofeu hadnt been brought on and Mirallas had (for Lennon) but he was shit when he came on too. I would have played 2 upfront probably. McCarthy for Kone. Lennon for Deulofeu. Mirallas for Cleverley. Is that better? Fuck knows.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 14, 2016, 12:01:26 AM
Sorry lads but I'm going to have to take issue with this Pulis praise.

Call me bitter, accuse me of sulking, or of being a football snob, or say that I should be focusing on our own team's failings instead; and you'd be right on all counts.

But I fucking despise Pulis and his ilk. Setting up for one point every week, not even trying to win a game and only doing so in spite of rather than because of the game plan to contain the opposition. All long balls, shit heel fouls to reorganise and taking 45 seconds for each goal kick. It's not good game-management or tactically astute: it's ugly, offensive to the spirit of the game and, frankly, it's shit. It's a recipe for 14th place and that's it.

Not really the thread for it but yeah, fuck you Pulis.

Ive no problem with them setting up that way. He shouldnt be praised today though. They play like that every week theyd be bottom. Most of it was last ditch stuff rather than good tactics
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on February 14, 2016, 12:04:33 AM
.             I would fucking throw in the towel if we ever resembled a Pullis team...the is supposed to some entertainment derived from watching sports.. I will deal with our up and down but never dull brand of entertainment over ANYTHING  Pullis has ever managed to create

Me too but sometimes you have got to deploy his shit house tactics during games, i.e. norwich, bournemouth type games where you have to sit in and see games out when you have narrow leads



Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on February 14, 2016, 12:10:33 AM
You're right; we should've brought Iniesta or Ozil on, they'd have unlocked their deep defence...

Yeah, that is a logical fallacious argument, that ignores the substance of my position.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 14, 2016, 12:19:54 AM
Good fan you.

Dover 4 Gateshead 0 . I am a good fan but can't bare watching us v WBA and I certainly wouldn't travel 300 miles for it .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 14, 2016, 12:21:13 AM
They have the right to set up as they please. Fortunately for the, they  had the worst manager in the league up against them
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on February 14, 2016, 12:30:17 AM
His team is also 3 points behind ours, with players worth probably less than a third of ours
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Nicco on February 14, 2016, 12:45:03 AM
More to the point he has NEVER been relegated from the Premier League.

So he is doing some things the right way even though he probably going to win anything his way.

But the teams he manage play to their strength and are probably very effective regarding how much every point costs...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2016, 12:48:33 AM
Ronnie Goodlass says it's impossible to second-guess Martinez's subs

I'm not so sure

If you stick a fiver on Kone each week you wouldn't go far wrong.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2016, 12:52:48 AM
There's nothing that went on today that we haven't already seen and discussed at length before.

Impressive possession stats but toothless in creating clear cut chances - tick
Undone by a set piece - tick.
Baffling subs - tick.
Plan A until Plan A doesn't work and then a bit more of Plan A in the hope Plan A might just work in the end - tick

We could have taken any match day thread from the past 18 months from a game at Goodison and changed the title and it would read the same.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on February 14, 2016, 01:07:53 AM
Just got back from Goodison and still numb from the anti-football we saw from Pulis. I didn't like RM's subs but really it wouldn't have mattered who he brought on ,there were more people in the penalty area than Lime St. station. Frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 14, 2016, 01:11:07 AM
Think I was more saying his goals record from the wing wasnt too bad. Kone isnt brilliant but you get a basic level from him every match. He'll try and hold it up. He'll try and link play and he scores the odd goal, not loads but hes scored a few this season. The problem with Mirallas is that he fucking disappears half the time. He doesnt play because you cant be certain he'll even involve himself some weeks.

Kones issues are 1s of talent. Mirallas are all attitude. I know which 1 Id rather be booing

Mirallas can turn a game though if he's on it, there's very few if any times that Kone has come on and had a direct effect on the game. I've often been hard on Mirallas but I think he's had a shit deal this season, he's getting so little time that it's very difficult when he does come on to get up to match speed, no matter the training you can never get ready for a game without decent game time.

I don't really get the attitude thing anymore either, he's clearly tried to work on that side of his personality. He waits and greets the players back on to the park for the second half, him and Russell Griffiths were the only non squad players on the pitch before the Carlisle game and as far as I could see the only non squad players who travelled to the game as they were sat right behind us in the stand. They both went down to the changing room at half time as well, so for all his bad attitude reputation I think he's working hard to be a team player certainly off the park.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bally on February 14, 2016, 01:12:32 AM
This is as confident as I have been all season, have no doubt Pullises WBA will come down park the bus and win 1-0 with there only shot on target. Actually got us to win 4-0 in the prediction league.
Couldn't be closer
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 01:13:41 AM

If you are struggling to break a team down you go for mercurial talent. Mirallas, Deulofeu hell even Osman could be described in this way.

Kone is the very antithesis of what we needed today, that's not his fault but it's the truth


Especially when they're playing 4 CBs.

They're more than happy to go for a battle of strength vs Kone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 01:17:34 AM

Mirallas can turn a game though if he's on it, there's very few if any times that Kone has come on and had a direct effect on the game. I've often been hard on Mirallas but I think he's had a shit deal this season, he's getting so little time that it's very difficult when he does come on to get up to match speed, no matter the training you can never get ready for a game without decent game time.

I don't really get the attitude thing anymore either, he's clearly tried to work on that side of his personality. He waits and greets the players back on to the park for the second half, him and Russell Griffiths were the only non squad players on the pitch before the Carlisle game and as far as I could see the only non squad players who travelled to the game as they were sat right behind us in the stand. They both went down to the changing room at half time as well, so for all his bad attitude reputation I think he's working hard to be a team player certainly off the park.

He's inconsistent and doesn't impose himself enough when it's not going his way.

But, penalty incident aside, he's never had an obvious attitude problem.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 14, 2016, 01:22:29 AM
Has to be one of the most frustrating games I've watched. The subs weren't great but as someone has said I don't think it would have mattered, they were the model of anti football, as Chris Sutton said on the BBC, you wouldn't want to buy a season ticket to watch them.

Poor goal to let in but as I've said a few times, when you've two keepers that are reluctant to come for a ball just stick a couple of bodies on the post. There's no point saying they're better suited trying to defend the ball coming in, if the attackers get a header on target then they haven't done the job right and we've let in a good few goals this year that a man on the post would probably have cleared.

Once the goal went in it was easy to see what was going to happen and I'm sure if we'd have kept the tempo going in the second half we would have scored but the strange subs totally took the tempo out of us and in the end it became fairly easy for them.

A mixed bag, some bad luck, some nice football but poor subs and a bit of "here we go again" mean it's another game where a lesser team has come to defend, in this case nicked a goal and we've failed to break them down again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Risky on February 14, 2016, 01:28:08 AM
I think the most disappointing thing for me today was the second half performance.  At half time I felt pretty confident that we'd go on and score a couple in the second half, but for whatever reason we created far less after the break and looked really lethargic.  Second half ended up just being the absolute worst side of us playing against teams who are defending in numbers.

6 defeats at home is a horrible record.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2016, 01:30:05 AM

Especially when they're playing 4 CBs.

They're more than happy to go for a battle of strength vs Kone.

You could go for a battle of anything you fancy with Kone and be happy about it. His initial usefulness has well and truly worn off and the obsession with him is now bordering on something homo-erotic.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 01:45:01 AM

I think the most disappointing thing for me today was the second half performance.  At half time I felt pretty confident that we'd go on and score a couple in the second half, but for whatever reason we created far less after the break and looked really lethargic.  Second half ended up just being the absolute worst side of us playing against teams who are defending in numbers.

6 defeats at home is a horrible record.

I know it's repetitive but since the Arsenal game in 2014 we've played 35 league games at home.

We've won 12, drawn 9, lost 14.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 01:46:17 AM

You could go for a battle of anything you fancy with Kone and be happy about it. His initial usefulness has well and truly worn off and the obsession with him is now bordering on something homo-erotic.

It is bizarre that he keeps picking him/bringing him on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Risky on February 14, 2016, 01:53:43 AM
It is bizarre that he keeps picking him/bringing him on.

I expect in over-positive way he thinks that he'll bundle one in off his shin and get his confidence back.  Which would be completely overlooking the fact that his general play is detrimental to the team as a whole!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 14, 2016, 01:57:09 AM
I'll be surprised if we get much from our remaining home games all of which have something to play for.
Westham, Arsenal and Southampton challeging for top 6 and title and Norwich and Bournemouth will scrap for points to stay up.

Looking like one of the worse home records for Everton in a very long time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: everton1952 on February 14, 2016, 02:11:31 AM
Shame the new signing is still unfit. 20 mins from him had to be better than Kone. Osman was a bizarre sub unless he thought he could unlock a 10 man defence. Gerry made no impact whatever though I accept that Martinez detected tiredness on the part of the excellent Lennon. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 14, 2016, 02:12:59 AM
I expect in over-positive way he thinks that he'll bundle one in off his shin and get his confidence back.  Which would be completely overlooking the fact that his general play is detrimental to the team as a whole!
When Niasse is fit, think we'll see the last of Kone. Well, I fucking hope so.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 14, 2016, 02:16:14 AM
Shame the new signing is still unfit. 20 mins from him had to be better than Kone. Osman was a bizarre sub unless he thought he could unlock a 10 man defence. Gerry made no impact whatever though I accept that Martinez detected tiredness on the part of the excellent Lennon. 
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The Osman sub wasn't bizarre at all. He's one of the most technical players we have and can play someone in, in tight spaces.

Mirallas is only good when he has space to run into, he offers nothing against a packed defence where there's no room in behind.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on February 14, 2016, 02:17:41 AM
I know it's repetitive but since the Arsenal game in 2014 we've played 35 league games at home.

We've won 12, drawn 9, lost 14.

Just saw that in the last 11 games we've been behind at home (by any score) at half time, won 0, drawn 1, lost 10.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hill135 on February 14, 2016, 02:27:45 AM
Just saw that in the last 11 games we've been behind at home (by any score) at half time, won 0, drawn 1, lost 10.

That is absolutely woeful.

Are there any encouraging statistics from the last 18 months?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2016, 02:31:24 AM
We don't often play bad enough to get angry about and we don't often play good enough to get excited about. It's just all very meh at the minute, which is the worst place to be as I associate meh with that group of teams in the centre of the league that won't go down nor trouble the silverware engravers. Which is what we're becoming.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 02:54:17 AM

Just saw that in the last 11 games we've been behind at home (by any score) at half time, won 0, drawn 1, lost 10.

Again, a strangely woeful statistic.

You'd think with our attack that we'd be able to turn games around, if necessary.

But it lends more weight to the theory that we can only play well if the opposition allow us the space to do so.

If a team has a lead they've no particular need to open the game up.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2016, 02:58:27 AM

We don't often play bad enough to get angry about and we don't often play good enough to get excited about. It's just all very meh at the minute, which is the worst place to be as I associate meh with that group of teams in the centre of the league that won't go down nor trouble the silverware engravers. Which is what we're becoming.

This is a potential problem.

We don't look like we're that far away from being a good side.

Winning 1 in 3 means that the last good result/performance is often not that long ago which sticks in people's minds.

We're in danger, based on the last 2 seasons, of always being in this limbo. Not quite making it to the level we should, but equally never being appalling enough to force some sort of change.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on February 14, 2016, 03:16:05 AM
Sounds like a lot of marriages I've seen.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on February 14, 2016, 03:38:06 AM
We don't often play bad enough to get angry about and we don't often play good enough to get excited about. It's just all very meh at the minute, which is the worst place to be as I associate meh with that group of teams in the centre of the league that won't go down nor trouble the silverware engravers. Which is what we're becoming.

correct and I feel with this potential new investment it will just enable us keep pace with these mid table teams rather than challenge for top 4 under the current management at least
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alfie Noakes on February 14, 2016, 03:48:58 AM
Of course you can say WBA defended really well but you could also say they are anti-football.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on February 14, 2016, 04:07:48 AM
Of course you can say WBA defended really well but you could also say they are anti-football.

There's no could about it, they're one of the most negative teams I've seen for a long time. However it's how you beat Everton at home these days, we don't seem to have the players to unlock defenses who set up like it's the 90th minute.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: super_ape89 on February 14, 2016, 04:19:16 AM
Of course you can say WBA defended really well but you could also say they are anti-football.
Rondon was eating popcorn for the vast majority of that game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on February 14, 2016, 04:33:59 AM
First half was good, did everything but score, second half was like our subs, fucking forgetfull
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 14, 2016, 04:34:10 AM
Rondon was eating popcorn for the vast majority of that game.
Cheeky fucker went off with cramp
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on February 14, 2016, 04:34:56 AM
What a depressing afternoon that was.  And bloody freezing to boot.  I'm absolutely sick of this shite and it is actually really annoying to watch us play at Goodison - the crowd is so impatient, the play is so predictable, and I find myself instead watching our best players body language in the vain hope that I might convince myself that they might be thinking it would be good for them to stay at Everton.  Absolutely no chance!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TSGun on February 14, 2016, 04:51:41 AM
Man, there are times I just hate football.

So disappointed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2016, 05:19:17 AM
Of course you can say WBA defended really well but you could also say they are anti-football.

Why would they come here and go toe to toe against more superior players? Especially when they're under pressure to stop the slide towards relegation and it's a pretty effective way to beat Everton these days.
They got their tactics spot on. Everyone knew how they'd play but they came, they performed and left with 3 pts. Job done.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Omar on February 14, 2016, 09:41:14 AM
Cheer up lads, Scalia died!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on February 14, 2016, 03:32:53 PM
................... the crowd is so impatient, the play is so predictable
.............insert the word ''because '' in the middle of your quote. We suffered for 75 minutes after they scored so I think we were quite patient ! And yes it was freezing !