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Title: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 01:45:20 AM
Well, Rangers/Sevco/NewCO are back (whatever you want to call them) - do you see them challenging for the league championship and other cups this year?

Or will Celtic do the full domestic treble with Brendan  Rogers and also progress in the Champions League tonight (vs Hapeol - Israeli team) and further into the competition?

Can Celtic or Hibs with Neil Lennon run either team close in the league or domestic cups?

Are their any decent players in that league you would like to sign? (Jason Cummings - Hibs, Dembele/Kieran Tierney -Celtic etc)

Why is the SPFL so shit despite x2 massive teams playing in it, to the point where Mark Warburton is complaining that Rangers are having to offload players to Championship teams in the UK who pay higher money?

LEAGUE TABLE - Rangers top after 2 games
http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/table/

Is their anyone in the Scottish National Team you'd like at Everton?

Is the Behaviour at Football Act (Otherwise known as the 'secterian singing bill' or anti-irish bill by some Celtic/Hibs fans) fair?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 18, 2016, 02:10:44 AM
Hope celtic get relegated
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:11:14 AM
Hope celtic get relegated

Haha, each to their own.

The new safe standing at Celtic Park is boss :D
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 02:19:02 AM
Well, Rangers/Sevco/NewCO are back (whatever you want to call them) - do you see them challenging for the league championship and other cups this year?

Or will Celtic do the full domestic treble with Brendan  Rogers and also progress in the Champions League tonight (vs Hapeol - Israeli team) and further into the competition?

Can Celtic or Hibs with Neil Lennon run either team close in the league or domestic cups?

Are their any decent players in that league you would like to sign? (Damon Cummings - Hibs, Dembele/Kieran Tierney -Celtic etc)

Why is the SPFL so shit despite x2 massive teams playing in it, to the point where Mark Warburton is complaining that Rangers are having to offload players to Championship teams in the UK who pay higher money?

LEAGUE TABLE - Rangers top after 2 games
http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/table/

Is their anyone in the Scottish National Team you'd like at Everton?

Scottish football's shite because of the Old Firm not despite them. They're not really massive clubs anymore either, they are in Scotland but outside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football, in fact, inside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football either.

Scottish football and the Old Firm have been left behind by all the other big leagues in Europe. The influx of money hasn't helped either, as Warburton has said, players would rather leave and go and play in the Championship and earn more money,(plus it's a better level) you only need to look at the Scottish national side, it's made up largely of Premier League squad players and Championship players. Rangers have a bit of a cheek moaning about that though, given that they were taking players from the SPL into the fourth tier of Scottish football with the lure of big wages.

The structure's all wrong as well, they had a chance a year or two ago to revamp Scottish football and all the did was copy the names of the English leagues such is the lack of idea in Scottish football. There's also not the population to sustain a decent level of support and therefore income for the clubs, low populated towns and the lure of the Old Firm are a huge problem with central belt and east coast full of small, poorly supported clubs. It'll never happen because football is so tribal but if they cut it down to three leagues of 10-12 clubs and merged several together it would make a huge difference. Dundee and Dundee Utd are on the same street and both looking in to new grounds, why they don't ground share is bonkers. As an extreme they could even merge the clubs, one club in Dundee being successful and getting 15-20k at a game is better than the two yo-yo clubs they have at the moment. Same in the central belt, Hibs and Hearts can just about stand on their own two feet but and Edinburgh club getting 30-35k at games would be brilliant. Clubs like Falkirk and Livingstone constantly live hand to mouth, they could perhaps merge, Livingstone only came from the fall of Meadowbank and probably ended up taking supporters from Falkirk.

Clubs like Clyde, Clydebank, Partick, Hamilton, Motherwell, Dumbarton, Morton, St Mirren etc spend their lives going up and down the leagues struggling to survive. Kilmarnock have a lovely stadium but can't get 5000 through the gate most weeks, Ayr barely getting a few hundred, maybe they could merge to form an Ayrshire club. Like I said due to the tribal nature of football merging will never happen but until something is done to change it massively, Scottish football is always going to struggle.

It's Jason Cummings by the way. :) It's a shame really, Everton used to always have a fairly strong connection with Scotland having had some club greats over the years. I don't really watch enough Scottish football to see the players but I can't think of any in the Scottish Premiership that I'd want at Everton. The problem with the SP is that it's probably not much better than League 1 in standard so for any player to go to the Premier League is a huge jump in class.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:26:39 AM
Leigh Griffiths just made it 2-0 Celtic in CL Qualifier :D
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:32:50 AM
Smashing free kick from Leigh Griffiths for his second goal

3-0 :D
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Shogun on August 18, 2016, 02:34:24 AM
God knows how they knocked out Olympiakos in the last round.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:36:51 AM
Good post @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14)

What I wills say I know 1 or 2 lads playing professionally who see Celtic as a great step up with the added perk of the Champions League. Very occasionally players like Nakumaura, Moravcik or Larrson or Kenny Miller for Rangers turn down huge money elsewhere at least until they are over 30 (Larsson) take the club to their hearts.

Its like Olympiakos/Panathanikos or Steua Bucharest have big histories with regular CL Football and crazy fans who travel far and wide but the league is wrapped up between 2 clubs, still doesn't deter from playing/supporting either club.

The SFA really need to help the national team and fans by kicking some life and money and sponsorship into the SPFL and Scottish Football - safe standing and revamps will be a start of that.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:38:19 AM
God knows how they knocked out Olympiakos in the last round.

Hey - Dundalk could be in the CL Proper. Crazy world. They are playing Legia Warsaw.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 02:58:46 AM
Hapeol get away goal ffs

Celtic 3-1 Hapoel
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 03:00:12 AM
Good post @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14)

What I wills say I know 1 or 2 lads playing professionally who see Celtic as a great step up with the added perk of the Champions League. Very occasionally players like Nakumaura, Moravcik or Larrson or Kenny Miller for Rangers turn down huge money elsewhere at least until they are over 30 (Larsson) take the club to their hearts.

Its like Olympiakos/Panathanikos or Steua Bucharest have big histories with regular CL Football and crazy fans who travel far and wide but the league is wrapped up between 2 clubs, still doesn't deter from playing/supporting either club.

The SFA really need to help the national team and fans by kicking some life and money and sponsorship into the SPFL and Scottish Football - safe standing and revamps will be a start of that.

The problem for young players is that like Man City many young Scottish player has gone to the Old Firm only to disappear without trace. Scott Allan being the latest player to see his career stall, voted player of the season one year, 18 months later sent on loan to Rotherham. And there's been many other examples over the years. All this does is stall a players career and also hampers the national team as decent players who could progress are seeing their career stopped in it's tracks. Armstrong and MacKay-Steven are similar, they're getting some games but they'd both be a shoe in every week if the were still at Dundee Utd, and both should have 15-20+ caps by now as well. Champions League isn't a perk either considering they either don't get a game or don't qualify half the time anyway.

With regards to Nakamura, Moravcik, Larsson and Kenny Miller etc other than Larsson none of them were every going to play at a much higher level, baring in mind Celtic were still playing at reasonable level in those days, if it was now they be gone in a flash. Kenny Miller had a go at the Premier League a couple of times with Wolves and Derby and largely died on his arse, that's why he ended up hanging around Scottish football for so long.

It'll take a lot more than money, sponsorship (not that any sponsor is going to through game changing money at Scottish football) and some safe standing areas to change things.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 03:00:24 AM
Jesus 3-2.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 03:03:03 AM
And there's another problem with Scottish football. Not that Celtic have lost this, far from it but clubs getting fucked in European qualifiers every year and not even getting to the main competition has absolutely ruined our co-efficiency.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 03:33:00 AM
And there's another problem with Scottish football. Not that Celtic have lost this, far from it but clubs getting fucked in European qualifiers every year and not even getting to the main competition has absolutely ruined our co-efficiency.

Again, good point - that lack of coeffiency has deterred the big players from signing. As i said though, if your a Championship player with teams looking at you even from the EPL - IF Celtic are in the CL Group Stage I know for a fact young hungry players and their agents are attracted by Celtic.

Sometimes @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) premier league clubs ruin players - look at Aiden McGeady (!) and Liam Miller (Man Utd) and the best example is Tony Watt.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 03:43:08 AM
Good win for Celtic :D 5-2. Captains goal from Brownie :)

On another point of interest Alan Stubbs did an amazing job at Hibs and is now at Rotheram, if he continues like that especially in a EPL job, future candidate for Everton hot seat?

I can see Rangers over achieving this year and if Aberdeen had more money they could challenge as well.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 04:03:24 AM
Again, good point - that lack of coeffiency has deterred the big players from signing. As i said though, if your a Championship player with teams looking at you even from the EPL - IF Celtic are in the CL Group Stage I know for a fact young hungry players and their agents are attracted by Celtic.

Sometimes @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) premier league clubs ruin players - look at Aiden McGeady (!) and Liam Miller (Man Utd) and the best example is Tony Watt.

McGeady was never that good a player, looking good in the SPL massively clouds the judgement on him, he's pretty much looked completely out his depth since he came here. Liam Miller was never a Man Utd player and another who looked good in the SPL but struggled with the gulf in class. It was always a strange move that, saw the bright lights and left on a free only to become a journeyman which would suggest he wasn't good enough in the first place. Wasn't aware that Watt had played in the Premier League? He's dined out well on "that" goal but the fact he's back at Hearts would probably suggest he's Championship/League 1 standard at best.

It's all relevant though, it's a bit like a food chain, the Old Firm take young Scottish players then some of the Premier League clubs take the top Old Firm players but that's becoming few and far between these days. Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

On another point of interest Alan Stubbs did an amazing job at Hibs and is now at Rotheram, if he continues like that especially in a EPL job, future candidate for Everton hot seat?

No!

I don't think he did that well at Hibs, made a right mess of things a couple of times trying to get out the Championship, fair enough he won their first cup but the Premiership is where they need to be and he blew it twice.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on August 18, 2016, 04:22:25 AM
Liam Miller now plays in Australian, doesn't he?

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 04:42:43 AM
Liam Miller now plays in Australian, doesn't he?

The Wilmington Hammerheads in North Carolina now.  :eh:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2623619-former-manchester-united-man-liam-miller-on-old-trafford-and-new-life-in-the-us#
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on August 18, 2016, 04:45:19 AM
The Wilmington Hammerheads in North Carolina now.  :eh:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2623619-former-manchester-united-man-liam-miller-on-old-trafford-and-new-life-in-the-us#

Worse than I thought.

Poor lad
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Danny on August 18, 2016, 05:14:54 AM
I think Stubbs left because he knew he'd failed to get them promoted and would be sacked very quickly if they'd had a bad start in the Championship, much easier to jump ship after a fantastic moment than be pushed a few months later.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 09:18:13 AM
I think Stubbs left because he knew he'd failed to get them promoted and would be sacked very quickly if they'd had a bad start in the Championship, much easier to jump ship after a fantastic moment than be pushed a few months later.

So why did Neil Lennon take the job then?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 09:26:40 AM
McGeady was never that good a player, looking good in the SPL massively clouds the judgement on him, he's pretty much looked completely out his depth since he came here. Liam Miller was never a Man Utd player and another who looked good in the SPL but struggled with the gulf in class. It was always a strange move that, saw the bright lights and left on a free only to become a journeyman which would suggest he wasn't good enough in the first place. Wasn't aware that Watt had played in the Premier League? He's dined out well on "that" goal but the fact he's back at Hearts would probably suggest he's Championship/League 1 standard at best.

It's all relevant though, it's a bit like a food chain, the Old Firm take young Scottish players then some of the Premier League clubs take the top Old Firm players but that's becoming few and far between these days. Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

No!

I don't think he did that well at Hibs, made a right mess of things a couple of times trying to get out the Championship, fair enough he won their first cup but the Premiership is where they need to be and he blew it twice.


Do you think Rogers was a good choice for Celtic? @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) - some Celtic fans where considering Stubbs as an ex player who at managerial level punched above his weight and seemed eager and ambitious. Do you think anybody (other than Hearts who did it) could beat Rangers to Division 1 last year? I have friends who support Hibs and as the 'other' irish/socialist club I have a lot of time for them and their tradition/supporters but Stubbs did a difficult job well and is now at Rotheram ironically signing a few scourers and creating a plan for progress

As for Rogers - do you agree like Shankly wasn't fitted to Huddersfield or Van Gaal to Man Utd they where still good managers and Rogers will kick away his Liverpool Hoodoo and resemble Martin O'Neil in taking Celtic back to regular CL Group/2nd Stage campaigns and domestic trebles?

As for Rangers - where do they need improving? Can you see them having a fast rise?

Is it fair that a Old Firm ticket at Celtic Park is DOUBLE the price of a regular ticket this season?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Danny on August 18, 2016, 03:15:57 PM
So why did Neil Lennon take the job then?

I don't know what you're getting at?

Lennon will have taken the job because he will feel he could get them promoted first time because they're the biggest club in that division.

Stubbs had failed to get them promoted from it twice, even though he had to deal with Rangers and Hearts he almost definitely should have got them there last year.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Shogun on August 18, 2016, 06:43:12 PM
There's no way Stubbs will ever make the grade, I can't quite believe he left the Hibernian job smelling of roses just because he'd won the cup (some similarities with Martinez there).

Not getting promoted in the first season with Rangers and Hearts involved is absolutely fine but to lose to Falkirk in the play offs the following season is a disgrace really.

The way he's started at Rotherham suggests he won't be there much longer anyway.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
McGeady was never that good a player, looking good in the SPL massively clouds the judgement on him, he's pretty much looked completely out his depth since he came here. Liam Miller was never a Man Utd player and another who looked good in the SPL but struggled with the gulf in class. It was always a strange move that, saw the bright lights and left on a free only to become a journeyman which would suggest he wasn't good enough in the first place. Wasn't aware that Watt had played in the Premier League? He's dined out well on "that" goal but the fact he's back at Hearts would probably suggest he's Championship/League 1 standard at best.

It's all relevant though, it's a bit like a food chain, the Old Firm take young Scottish players then some of the Premier League clubs take the top Old Firm players but that's becoming few and far between these days. Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

No!

I don't think he did that well at Hibs, made a right mess of things a couple of times trying to get out the Championship, fair enough he won their first cup but the Premiership is where they need to be and he blew it twice.


Who was the Everton Academy player who went on to play for Forrest - Fox? Liam? He got ruined at Celtic too. Strachan signed him.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
Who was the Everton Academy player who went on to play for Forrest - Fox? Liam? He got ruined at Celtic too. Strachan signed him.

Danny Fox wasn't it?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 19, 2016, 01:55:10 AM
So why did Neil Lennon take the job then?

Because that's his level.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 19, 2016, 02:42:33 AM
Because that's his level.

Managed in the Champions League, beat top teams, yet Scottish Championship is his level?

(Yes he was shit at Bolton but they where in administration)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 19, 2016, 02:47:39 AM
Managed in the Champions League, beat top teams, yet Scottish Championship is his level?

(Yes he was shit at Bolton but they where in administration)

Managed in the Champions League by default. Free pass into Europe every year for Celtic. You simply can't judge a manager's credentials by what they do at Celtic or Rangers. After all Graeme Souness is the closest thing any old Firm manager has come to success in England.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on August 19, 2016, 03:11:19 AM
@Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347)

Can I ask why you have such an interest in Scottish football??

As @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) has already pointed out (as if it needed to be) it's a fucking awful standard of football.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 19, 2016, 03:14:02 AM
@Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347)

Can I ask why you have such an interest in Scottish football??

As @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) has already pointed out (as if it needed to be) it's a fucking awful standard of football.

Went out with a Scottish girl for a while, had mates who took me a few Celtic games, checked my family history (Irish), enjoy going Celtic games and made a few mates doing it. Carried on supporting them along with Everton.

I Know plenty of lads from Irish Toffees who support both.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on August 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM
Went out with a Scottish girl for a while, had mates who took me a few Celtic games, checked my family history (Irish), enjoy going Celtic games and made a few mates doing it. Carried on supporting them along with Everton.

I Know plenty of lads from Irish Toffees who support both.

So absolutely nothing to do with Scottish football then really? You just like Celtic!!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 19, 2016, 03:27:32 AM
So absolutely nothing to do with Scottish football then really? You just like Celtic!!

I've started watching quite a bit of it generally.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on August 19, 2016, 03:46:39 AM
I've started watching quite a bit of it generally.

Sad cunt.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: velimski on August 19, 2016, 04:02:09 AM
Quite surprised this topic has managed to get to a 3rd page.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2016, 04:47:15 AM
Do you think Rogers was a good choice for Celtic? @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) - some Celtic fans where considering Stubbs as an ex player who at managerial level punched above his weight and seemed eager and ambitious. Do you think anybody (other than Hearts who did it) could beat Rangers to Division 1 last year? I have friends who support Hibs and as the 'other' irish/socialist club I have a lot of time for them and their tradition/supporters but Stubbs did a difficult job well and is now at Rotheram ironically signing a few scourers and creating a plan for progress

As for Rogers - do you agree like Shankly wasn't fitted to Huddersfield or Van Gaal to Man Utd they where still good managers and Rogers will kick away his Liverpool Hoodoo and resemble Martin O'Neil in taking Celtic back to regular CL Group/2nd Stage campaigns and domestic trebles?

As for Rangers - where do they need improving? Can you see them having a fast rise?

Is it fair that a Old Firm ticket at Celtic Park is DOUBLE the price of a regular ticket this season?

I think Rogers was an easy choice for Celtic and for him. He clearly wasn't going to get offered a big job in England anytime soon so it was a 'big job' for him to take, but in a league where only two clubs have a realistic chance of winning and one is wounded then it's a bit of a no brainer for him for now but if Rangers get close then the pressure will increase tenfold. I'm not convinced by him, even less so after he trotted out the "great character" line last night after the game. He's had a season where he (Suarez) took them close to winning the league and a decent season at Swansea, other than that he's got a questionable record as a manager.

Stubbs made a mess of the play offs the first year they went down, they were 2-0 up after the first leg and still 2-1 up in injury time of the second but lost on penalties. If I recall correctly they were in control of the their destiny until about March last season then they totally imploded.

Don't really know about Rangers, I can see them getting back in debt with some of the players they're trying to throw money at.

If that's right about Celtic charging double for an Old Firm game that's pretty disgraceful, are they trying to recoup the money from the years they didn't have the derby? Fair enough charge a few extra for a category A match but double is a piss take.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2016, 04:52:55 AM
I've started watching quite a bit of it generally.

You need to get one of those fancy Android boxes or something. No one south of Dalkeith watches 'quite a bit of it generally'. ;)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 19, 2016, 05:44:42 AM
You need to get one of those fancy Android boxes or something. No one south of Dalkeith watches 'quite a bit of it generally'. ;)

I keep forgetting, your scottish right?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2016, 05:54:10 AM
I keep forgetting, your scottish right?

Yup, sure am. @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19)  loves my accent. :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2016, 06:42:15 PM
Scott Brown retired from international football. That should buy him a bit more time to run around bumping into people pretending he's a hardman.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: hill135 on August 19, 2016, 07:56:25 PM
Scott Brown is biggest meff in the whole of football, without exception.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Major Clanger on August 19, 2016, 08:17:54 PM
Yup, sure am. @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19)  loves my accent. :)

If it's typical for the area you live in, I love it too, even without having heard it. :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
If it's typical for the area you live in, I love it too, even without having heard it. :)

I think I've a bit of a mix being from the south east originally then moving to the south west. It's not like a strong Glasgow or northern accent.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 19, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
mmmm Scottish accents.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 20, 2016, 01:13:23 AM
The SPL is the non-event of non-events. It's basically full of rejects, failures and candlestick makers.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on August 20, 2016, 01:52:04 AM
The SPL is the non-event of non-events. It's basically full of rejects, failures and candlestick makers.

The wags of Scottish football players are actually looked down upon by the rest of the filth in Scotland!! Instead of Jimmy choos and mikael kors its Jonathan James and Mk1.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on August 21, 2016, 02:06:32 AM
Scott Brown sums up the state of Scottish football, one of the top players there even though he's not very good and in his 30's now and never once been seriously linked with a big move.

Except...

http://stv.tv/sport/football/118839-scott-brown-to-leave-celtic-for-everton/
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 21, 2016, 02:53:44 AM
Except...

http://stv.tv/sport/football/118839-scott-brown-to-leave-celtic-for-everton/


Yeah, frightening wasn't it. I don't think it was the serious a situation. He may well have improved if he'd come to the Premier League but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on August 21, 2016, 02:55:37 AM
Well, Rangers/Sevco/NewCO are back (whatever you want to call them) - do you see them challenging for the league championship and other cups this year?

I think Rangers will definitely be at the top end of the table, at the very worst they might finish 3rd. They will expect to have a good run in the cups as well - I expect them to reach at least one final.

Or will Celtic do the full domestic treble with Brendan  Rogers and also progress in the Champions League tonight (vs Hapeol - Israeli team) and further into the competition?

Celtic will be favourites to win the title and I think with Rangers back there will be certainly more motivation and less complacency than the last few seasons. A treble's certainly possible but it just takes one defeat and you're out.

Are their any decent players in that league you would like to sign? (Jason Cummings - Hibs, Dembele/Kieran Tierney -Celtic etc)

I was quite surprised Dembele signed for Celtic, I thought a Premier League club south of the border would have signed him. I must admit, every season I grow less and less interested in Scottish domestic football so I couldn't say who potential stars could be. Although I keep an eye on my local team Aberdeen and players like Niall McGinn and Adam Rooney have done well for the club plus Johnny Hayes and Ryan Jack, I can't see any of them make the step up to the Premier League, in fact Rooney struggled at Championship and League One level down south.

Why is the SPFL so shit despite x2 massive teams playing in it, to the point where Mark Warburton is complaining that Rangers are having to offload players to Championship teams in the UK who pay higher money?

Gash answered that question very well. Overall it all comes down to money available and lack of parties interested in investing in Scottish football especially as there is little they would get in return compared to south of the border. In the Sky era, a lot of money has been invested in the English Premier League and it seems a lot of that money has trickled down to the lower leagues where even some of the poorest League One and even League Two clubs still have more resources and a better football infrastructure than most of the professional Scottish clubs.

Is their anyone in the Scottish National Team you'd like at Everton?

Sadly not really, maybe one or two players like David Marshall and Andrew Robertson but mainly as back up players.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 21, 2016, 04:06:04 AM
@toffee_scot (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=43) thanks for reading all that mate and answering/making a contribution, even if your partial to being an Aberdeen fan ;) (Just kidding)

Good win today for Celtic, 4-2 away to St Johnstone. Lovely James Forrest goal.

Unfortunately have a wierd feeling Rangers will do the domestic cup double whilst Celtic will concentrate on the CL and winning the SPFL at a canter.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bacon sarnie on August 23, 2016, 10:47:34 AM
As a coach I only know too well if you dont have maximum concentration in the game that you can concede goals, he said. We always have to be aware of that. We respect Beer-Sheva and their qualities and they will be doing everything they possibly can to qualify. But the prize is with us and it is only for us to lose and we dont intend to lose it very easily."

Brendan knows.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 24, 2016, 05:40:42 AM
Shite Celtic.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 27, 2016, 01:56:01 AM
Rangers featuring Joey Barton vs Killy.

Is it me or does Killy's pitch look like a farm or fake grass?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 27, 2016, 02:00:03 AM
Rangers featuring Joey Barton vs Killy.

Is it me or does Killy's pitch look like a farm or fake grass?
Isn't it 4g
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 27, 2016, 03:44:17 AM
Isn't it 4g

Aye, it is.

I'd have gone to this if I'd realised earlier than 6pm that it was on. Used to go to Kilmarnock quite a bit as a couple of mates are fans.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 27, 2016, 03:47:52 AM
Aye, it is.

I'd have gone to this if I'd realised earlier than 6pm that it was on. Used to go to Kilmarnock quite a bit as a couple of mates are fans.
Good win too, or have I jinxed it
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 27, 2016, 03:59:26 AM
Good win too, or have I jinxed it

Finished 1-1. Killie down to 10 men as well, Kris Boyd scoring against his former club.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on August 28, 2016, 12:19:43 AM
@Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) @Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329) - whats 4G pitches lads?

Here's Celtics goals today, they smashed the Oil Cans 4-1. The Leigh Griffiths goal is a good one.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 28, 2016, 12:25:51 AM
@Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) @Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329) - whats 4G pitches lads?

Artificial grass basically.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 10, 2016, 09:12:24 PM
Celtic keep their 100% record with a 5-1 win at Paradise over Rangers.

4 points clear with a game in hand. Nice.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bally on September 11, 2016, 12:19:42 AM
Celtic keep their 100% record with a 5-1 win at Paradise over Rangers.

4 points clear with a game in hand. Nice.
Paradise???? Since when has it been called that???
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 11, 2016, 12:22:45 AM
Paradise???? Since when has it been called that???

Always has been as far as I know?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bally on September 11, 2016, 12:25:58 AM
Always known it as parkhead or celtic Park never ever heard it called paradise
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: ally2 on September 11, 2016, 02:03:07 AM
redundant thread.

the only interesting thing about scottish football is how quickly rangers become competitive.  at least one more year
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 11, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
Not bad. Saved 3 penalties in half an hour.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/watch-cammy-bells-stunning-hat-8812155.amp
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 11, 2016, 11:19:23 PM
Not bad. Saved 3 penalties in half an hour.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/watch-cammy-bells-stunning-hat-8812155.amp

That's nothing, according to Gillette Soccer Saturday, Paul Dixon was sent off at least ten times :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Cozzie on September 12, 2016, 01:43:49 AM
So Kros Boyd, former Rangers player, lost his brother to suicide this week, and Celtic fans do this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Cozzie/celtoc1_zps3qm3olcb.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Cozzie/celtoc2_zpsnag5z6o8.jpg)

I know it is only the minority but this is just scum, no need for it at all.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: ally2 on September 12, 2016, 03:14:28 AM
Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 12, 2016, 03:36:37 AM
Classy.

Still, every club has it's minority of idiots and to be fair, they've been roundly criticised by fellow fans. Hopefully the club takes action against them.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: KevtheRat on September 12, 2016, 04:03:37 AM
Watched the game yesterday, the quality of football is about equal to mid table championship level at best, how Celtic think they could possibly come into the premier league is laughable.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 12, 2016, 04:24:46 AM
Watched the game yesterday, the quality of football is about equal to mid table championship level at best, how Celtic think they could possibly come into the premier league is laughable.

I don't think anyone does at the moment but there's no doubt that Rangers and Celtic could probably both hold their own, eventually. Both get big crowds, are still seen by some as big clubs and there's proof in their heyday that Rangers could attract some very big names.

I don't even think the Premiership is at Championship level at the moment, probably nearer League One.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 12, 2016, 02:37:24 PM
Classy.

Still, every club has it's minority of idiots and to be fair, they've been roundly criticised by fellow fans. Hopefully the club takes action against them.

I've been discussing this on TalkCeltic Board, and there's a mixed reaction to it - as it coincided (i think accidentally) with a family death of Kris Boyd's and World Suicide Day. Personally I disliked it, even if it was meant to be about their club going out of existence - blow up dolls and hanging aren't the way to do it. Celtic are a huge club with a great history/tradition and thats why many supporters instead applauded the Green Brigades (traditional) tricolour 1916 centenary  display.
(http://the18.com/sites/default/files/styles/feature_image_with_focal_point/public/feature-images/20160908-The18-Image-Old-Firm-Green-Brigade-Celtic-Vs-Rangers-Flag-Of-War-Banner-1280x738_0.jpg?itok=DdnfoCeN)
However having said that Rangers fans are being a bit self righteous about morality - they regularly sing songs about empire and the famine , bring banners by the racist far right Scottish Defence League and destroyed the away sections toilets after the game.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/hate-parade-sickening-scots-extremists-6978496

(http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CsAH4TzWcAAIh2U.jpg)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 12, 2016, 02:38:17 PM
I don't think anyone does at the moment but there's no doubt that Rangers and Celtic could probably both hold their own, eventually. Both get big crowds, are still seen by some as big clubs and there's proof in their heyday that Rangers could attract some very big names.

I don't even think the Premiership is at Championship level at the moment, probably nearer League One.

To be fair that's partially why Gary Hooper done so well, plucked from League One straight into SPL - yet he could bang them in at CL level as well - just like a certain Leigh Griffiths :D Although Hooper also proved he could stick it in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 12, 2016, 03:54:11 PM
Jesus. There really are no limits to what goes on between those two sets of fans. Swear to God, if it was legal to carry guns over here then Parkhead/Ibrox would be a mess on matchday's.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 12, 2016, 08:20:53 PM
I've been discussing this on TalkCeltic Board, and there's a mixed reaction to it - as it coincided (i think accidentally) with a family death of Kris Boyd's and World Suicide Day.

Are you thinking or rather hoping it coincided with them events? Personally think it looks like too much of a coincidence myself.

One of my best mates is a massive Celtic fan (used to have a season ticket, despite being from and living in St. Helens) and he said the atmosphere on Saturday was incredible. I've been to games with him and enjoyed it and look out for their results etc.

However, my mate is one of those fans who are so deluded and biased about Celtic it's unreal. The amount of times I've been told that Celtic won the european cup with a team all born within 30 odd miles of the ground is ridiculous. He genuinely thinks Celtic would hold their own in the Prem (I admit with time they would do) and spouts on about having the best fans in the world. Apparently uefa voted them it once 10 years ago.

I always get the impression from him and some of the things he likes on twitter that the majority of the celtic fanbase is like this, a bit like Liverpool's. Spouting on about thier history and how good the club is, when in the here and now they are a bit shit
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 12, 2016, 10:39:48 PM
Are you thinking or rather hoping it coincided with them events? Personally think it looks like too much of a coincidence myself.

One of my best mates is a massive Celtic fan (used to have a season ticket, despite being from and living in St. Helens) and he said the atmosphere on Saturday was incredible. I've been to games with him and enjoyed it and look out for their results etc.

However, my mate is one of those fans who are so deluded and biased about Celtic it's unreal. The amount of times I've been told that Celtic won the european cup with a team all born within 30 odd miles of the ground is ridiculous. He genuinely thinks Celtic would hold their own in the Prem (I admit with time they would do) and spouts on about having the best fans in the world. Apparently uefa voted them it once 10 years ago.

I always get the impression from him and some of the things he likes on twitter that the majority of the celtic fanbase is like this, a bit like Liverpool's. Spouting on about thier history and how good the club is, when in the here and now they are a bit shit

Head onto a Celtic forum and check them all out, they seem pretty level headed these days to me.

All's i can say about the dolls was it was not the Green Brigade, has been roundly panned by fans as an ill thought out and insensitive and misfired jibe at Rangers liquidation.

Atmosphere at the game was incredible like you say and the main banner was the tricolour. Which was Green Brigade but nobody has acknowledged that was the main,official display for the game for some reason.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 12, 2016, 10:47:17 PM
Head onto a Celtic forum and check them all out, they seem pretty level headed these days to me.

All's i can say about the dolls was it was not the Green Brigade, has been roundly panned by fans as an ill thought out and insensitive and misfired jibe at Rangers liquidation.

Atmosphere at the game was incredible like you say and the main banner was the tricolour. Which was Green Brigade but nobody has acknowledged that was the main,official display for the game for some reason.

Well that's a relief. As I say I like Celtic, it would be brill to watch Celtic v Everton in europe. My mate is one of those fans then I guess. I told him about this not long after I posted on here and his response was 'the actions of a few should not stain the great reputation celtic fans have across the world as recognised by fifa and uefa'. :/

Anyway, what's a successful season for Celtic then? The title, a domestic cup and a respectable performance in europe? Looking at the groups and Celtic probably have the hardest team from each pot

Think Celtic have bought well and them getting that Dembele was a bit of a coup
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 13, 2016, 12:33:21 AM
I've been discussing this on TalkCeltic Board, and there's a mixed reaction to it - as it coincided (i think accidentally) with a family death of Kris Boyd's and World Suicide Day. Personally I disliked it, even if it was meant to be about their club going out of existence - blow up dolls and hanging aren't the way to do it. Celtic are a huge club with a great history/tradition and thats why many supporters instead applauded the Green Brigades (traditional) tricolour 1916 centenary  display.

However having said that Rangers fans are being a bit self righteous about morality - they regularly sing songs about empire and the famine , bring banners by the racist far right Scottish Defence League and destroyed the away sections toilets after the game.


I don't have a lot of time for either set of fans so from a completely impartial point of view you've got pretty big blinkers on there Thomas. You're making it sound like Rangers fans are all that is bad in the Rangers/Celtic divide and Celtic are all that is good, it's where the 'always the victim' comparison to kopites comes from. The truth is (and I'd say this of Evertonians just as much as any other club) all clubs have their element of dickheads so don't try and make out as Celtic fans being perfect, they've had their own episodes of damaging away grounds, flying controversial banners and singing controversial songs so lets not try and dress it up as something different.

Head onto a Celtic forum and check them all out, they seem pretty level headed these days to me.

All's i can say about the dolls was it was not the Green Brigade, has been roundly panned by fans as an ill thought out and insensitive and misfired jibe at Rangers liquidation.

Atmosphere at the game was incredible like you say and the main banner was the tricolour. Which was Green Brigade but nobody has acknowledged that was the main,official display for the game for some reason.

Don't you think it's a little ironic that the likes of the Green Brigade (lets not try and portray them up as some beacon of common sense) moan about Rangers fans singing Rule Britannia and flying Union Jacks while Celtic, a Scottish club sing Irish songs and fly the Irish flag.

I'm the last to stick up for Rangers but don't try and paint out that one set of fans are better/worse than the others. I know a lot of Rangers and Celtic fans personally, from family and friends to work colleagues and general acquaintances and they can all be dicks when they want to.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 13, 2016, 12:39:50 AM
It may be just me, but I see a distinct difference between singing songs about stuff that happened 150 years ago (however awful that event was), and poking fun at someone's suicide that happened just days ago.

One is taking the piss, the other is beyond the pale.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 13, 2016, 12:41:44 AM
It may be just me, but I see a distinct difference between singing songs about stuff that happened 150 years ago (however awful that event was), and poking fun at someone's suicide that happened just days ago.

I don't think the hanging dolls were meant to be aimed at Kris Boyd, just a very badly timed coincidence.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 13, 2016, 12:51:15 AM
Paradise???? Since when has it been called that???

It's just a nickname Celtic fans have always used.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 13, 2016, 01:02:39 AM
I had the misfortune of having to watch the game on Saturday in a pub in town before I went the races.

Fortunately, once the Utd/City game kicked off I could pretend to be watching the auld firm to keep the old man happy but mainly watching the manc derby.

I've just had to watch the highlight of at it as I'm still at me mam's.

Jesus wept, 6 goals and every single one of them an absolute shambles. Unmarked headers, opposition giving the ball away leading to goals, defensive lines all over the place, piss poor goalkeeping.

Not one of those goals can be considered well worked or even an individual piece of brilliance.

Seriously @Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347), I'd be embarrassed to admit you enjoy watching that!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 13, 2016, 04:23:43 AM
To be fair that's partially why Gary Hooper done so well, plucked from League One straight into SPL - yet he could bang them in at CL level as well - just like a certain Leigh Griffiths :D Although Hooper also proved he could stick it in the Premier League.

He's only scored 2 or 3 CL goals and was pretty much out his depth in the Premier League, that's why they loaned then sold him to Sheff Wed last season. Actually, now you mention it, that probably is much the same as would happen to Leigh Griffiths as well. :) He's scored in the qualifiers against pretty poor opposition, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on against decent teams.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 13, 2016, 04:16:36 PM
He's only scored 2 or 3 CL goals and was pretty much out his depth in the Premier League, that's why they loaned then sold him to Sheff Wed last season. Actually, now you mention it, that probably is much the same as would happen to Leigh Griffiths as well. :) He's scored in the qualifiers against pretty poor opposition, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on against decent teams.

I'll be amazed if Celtic gain a single point from their group.

They were extremely fortunate to come up against the weakest team they could of got in every round of the qualifiers, but they couldn't really have been given a much harder group.

Both City and Barca will beat them comfortably home and away. Leverkusen are also streets ahead of them. Possibly sneak a draw from either of the games against them, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 13, 2016, 07:05:40 PM
I don't have a lot of time for either set of fans so from a completely impartial point of view you've got pretty big blinkers on there Thomas. You're making it sound like Rangers fans are all that is bad in the Rangers/Celtic divide and Celtic are all that is good, it's where the 'always the victim' comparison to kopites comes from. The truth is (and I'd say this of Evertonians just as much as any other club) all clubs have their element of dickheads so don't try and make out as Celtic fans being perfect, they've had their own episodes of damaging away grounds, flying controversial banners and singing controversial songs so lets not try and dress it up as something different.

Don't you think it's a little ironic that the likes of the Green Brigade (lets not try and portray them up as some beacon of common sense) moan about Rangers fans singing Rule Britannia and flying Union Jacks while Celtic, a Scottish club sing Irish songs and fly the Irish flag.

I'm the last to stick up for Rangers but don't try and paint out that one set of fans are better/worse than the others. I know a lot of Rangers and Celtic fans personally, from family and friends to work colleagues and general acquaintances and they can all be dicks when they want to.

@Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) I suppose I'm an optimist through my environment/fortunate to know good supporters, but sure, like fans of all clubs they've been silly before.

Rangers as a footballing institution is one i respect, although I have less time for their supporters.

As for @Haile GAZrselassie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=44) (Are you Moyesies Ginger Pubes btw?) its difficult to explain my attraction/support to the club, its not a great league but Celtic's identity and history is appealing - just like Everton's.

@BlueNoseMike (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4047) basically Celtic should do the treble with getting out the CL Group a proper bonus or a good run in the UEFA Cup.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 13, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Yes @Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347)  I was once MGP.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 14, 2016, 03:09:23 AM
(http://favoritememes.com/_nw/0/01658434.jpg)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on September 14, 2016, 08:20:44 PM
Good documentary on Iplayer at the moment
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07th4fy
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 14, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 16, 2016, 05:27:41 AM
Barton causing a bit of friction, at least he's not stubbed a ciggie out in someone's eye.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37378180?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 21, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
Barton causing a bit of friction, at least he's not stubbed a ciggie out in someone's eye.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37378180?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

What's been happening here. Seems all we know is that there was a bit of a barney and now he's sitting off at home for the next 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2016, 12:38:20 AM
What's been happening here. Seems all we know is that there was a bit of a barney and now he's sitting off at home for the next 3 weeks.

Yeah, not sure what's going on there? It's clearly been a bit more than just a heated debate after a footballl match.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 22, 2016, 04:50:38 AM
Wasn't he betting on the Celtic v Barca game? Or is that something different?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2016, 05:28:23 AM
Wasn't he betting on the Celtic v Barca game? Or is that something different?

Yeah, that's a different case.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 24, 2016, 03:16:31 AM
I think Barton has been telling other Rangers players that they're not as good as they think they are. Coming from him that is some insult.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on October 02, 2016, 02:39:39 AM
There's always one

Sick cunt.

http://scottishdailynews.com/2016/10/rangers-bus-jamiemonty/
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Major Clanger on October 02, 2016, 02:43:29 AM
There's always one

Sick cunt.

http://scottishdailynews.com/2016/10/rangers-bus-jamiemonty/

I don't think the police should get involved in this. I do however believe that his stupid gawping face should be published everywhere with the caption "Look at this thick cunt, just look at him".
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on October 02, 2016, 03:08:38 AM
I don't think the police should get involved in this. I do however believe that his stupid gawping face should be published everywhere with the caption "Look at this thick cunt, just look at him".

Aye, it's probably not a police matter. It's the good and bad of social media, the bad being him the good being, as you say, publish it everywhere and shame the cunt.
Title: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 04, 2016, 05:17:33 AM
Anyone seen this lad?

I've just seen a load of YouTube clips and it's pretty amazing

Just made his debut for celtic u20 at the grand old age of 13

Could be a name to keep an eye on
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Ridge on October 04, 2016, 09:15:05 PM
I read a bit about this, but hadn't seen anything. Incredibly impressive technique, no age caveat needed. He could well be a Freddy Adu about nothing, but potential is clearly there to be a top level player.

Plenty have excelled at age group and then had development stunted having being accelerated through the process too fast. The transition to the adult's game is multiple steps, not a leap, otherwise they can become fearful or pick up bad habits if progressed to failure or protected with silk.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11787/10604779/celtic-hand-13-year-old-karamoko-dembele-his-debut-for-u20-side
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Bluedylan on October 04, 2016, 09:40:14 PM
Looks incredibly impressive for a 13 year old. Still shouldn't be making any sort of impression in an U-20s match. Any self respecting opposition player would and should just bully and kick the lad out of the game, no matter how good his technique might be.
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Ridge on October 04, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
Looks incredibly impressive for a 13 year old. Still shouldn't be making any sort of impression in an U-20s match. Any self respecting opposition player would and should just bully and kick the lad out of the game, no matter how good his technique might be.

Any self respecting man should do what to a 13 year old kid.  :-\

I think the English hold more regret that no one hacked Maradona on the second goal, than anger over hand of god for the first in 86.
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Ross on October 04, 2016, 10:36:18 PM
Saw a clip of him in some tournament waltzing passed players with ease and thought to myself "yeah well Scottish youth footballs not a great standard" then I read the article and he was up against Barcelona, Deportivo and Lyon and making mugs out of these kids his own age. Long way to go but he's a very talented young boy clearly.

@Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347) have the Scottish FA got any chance of getting him to commit to them?
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Bluedylan on October 04, 2016, 10:42:12 PM
Any self respecting man should do what to a 13 year old kid.  :-\

I think the English hold more regret that no one hacked Maradona on the second goal, than anger over hand of god for the first in 86.

Maybe my fault for wording that comment badly.

Nothing to do with Englishness, I'm a massive Maradona fan and not a fan of 'traditional' British agricultural football.

It's to do with being it competitive football, and there's a huge difference between a 13 year old and 19/20 year olds. I'm not suggesting fouling him or hacking him, I'm suggesting just dominating him physically within the rules. He shouldn't even be getting a touch really with the physiological differences. Even a year or two age gap is massive at that age.
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 05, 2016, 02:48:53 AM
Maybe my fault for wording that comment badly.

Nothing to do with Englishness, I'm a massive Maradona fan and not a fan of 'traditional' British agricultural football.

It's to do with being it competitive football, and there's a huge difference between a 13 year old and 19/20 year olds. I'm not suggesting fouling him or hacking him, I'm suggesting just dominating him physically within the rules. He shouldn't even be getting a touch really with the physiological differences. Even a year or two age gap is massive at that age.


I'd probably go with your first point actually. Soon as the chance arises then go in hard on him and put the shits up him for the rest of the game.

Bully him off the park with physical strength and verbally threaten him too.
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Ridge on October 05, 2016, 04:09:48 AM
If you did some research, you could also threaten his family, maybe keep a shank in your sock.

Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 06, 2016, 01:11:03 AM
If you did some research, you could also threaten his family, maybe keep a shank in your sock.



I see where you're going with this. PM me and we'll come up with a potential kidnap and extortion plan!!
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Confucius on October 06, 2016, 07:11:13 AM
I see where you're going with this. PM me and we'll come up with a potential kidnap and extortion plan!!

He will run rings around both of you
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Thomas on October 14, 2016, 04:00:44 AM
Saw a clip of him in some tournament waltzing passed players with ease and thought to myself "yeah well Scottish youth footballs not a great standard" then I read the article and he was up against Barcelona, Deportivo and Lyon and making mugs out of these kids his own age. Long way to go but he's a very talented young boy clearly.

@Thomas (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=347) have the Scottish FA got any chance of getting him to commit to them?

If he stay's there a while I don't see why not, Celtic have a good development side where he can progress and there has been a few players of broadly African origin commit to Scotland over the last 4-5 years.

For more on the player and to follow his progress - and any other Celtic youth team - follow this excellent thread on the Development Squad which is mostly written by a bit of a youth team anorak for Hoops but a lot of other Celtic fans chip in.
http://www.talkceltic.net/forums/threads/youth-development-team-thread.131440/page-166
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Thomas on October 14, 2016, 10:49:22 PM
@Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) also see this mate/everybody else

http://www.talkceltic.net/forums/threads/karamoko-dembele.140559/page-11

(Specific thread on the kid from Celtic Fans Forum)
Title: Re: Karamoko Dembele
Post by: Thomas on October 15, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
Good to see his older namesake is staying for a good few years yet so he says :D

http://readceltic.com/2016/10/15/dembele-reveals-hes-celtic-long-term/
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on October 15, 2016, 08:53:11 PM
Good to see Dembele has cleared up any possibility of him leaving Celtic in the near future :D

http://readceltic.com/2016/10/15/dembele-reveals-hes-celtic-long-term/
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on October 23, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
Dembele scores another cracker on 87 mins vs Rangers at Hampden

= Celtic in League Cup Final back at Hampden in November vs Abderdeen.

Potentially Brendan Rodgers first trophy in the bag.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2016, 12:22:03 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37752673
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: efcforlife on October 25, 2016, 03:03:00 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37752673

Terrible..

Bottles are thrown all too often by idiots pretending to be football fans.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Macca77 on October 25, 2016, 05:29:50 PM
Awful game to watch between two very poor sides, sad the say the commentators Butcher and Sutton where more entertaining
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on October 25, 2016, 08:46:30 PM
Sutton's terrible he just shouts and comes across angry all the time. And not that it really matters but you'd think they'd find at least one Scottish person to co-commentate on the biggest game in Scottish football.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Macca77 on October 25, 2016, 10:15:07 PM
Sutton's terrible he just shouts and comes across angry all the time. And not that it really matters but you'd think they'd find at least one Scottish person to co-commentate on the biggest game in Scottish football.

They were both terrible, at one point they were discussing what was in their halftime sarnies
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on November 02, 2016, 10:29:19 PM
Rangers have clearly fucked right up with the Joey Barton situation. They want to sack him but either don't have the grounds to or have dropped a bollock somewhere in the process and can't afford to either be sued or buy him out his contract.

Now he's been reinstated but will train with the U21 and not be considered for the first team. I thought the new regime were meant to be a bit smarter but clearly not. They've also had to borrow more money from Douglas Park  and he's assured another 800k just to get them through to the end of the season. Meanwhile Barton on a rumoured 20k a week has just had a 7 week holiday.

With regards to the league, there's little for Celtic to cheer about when the season's over by the end of October.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: KevtheRat on November 03, 2016, 06:41:29 AM
Rangers have clearly fucked right up with the Joey Barton situation. They want to sack him but either don't have the grounds to or have dropped a bollock somewhere in the process and can't afford to either be sued or buy him out his contract.

Now he's been reinstated but will train with the U21 and not be considered for the first team. I thought the new regime were meant to be a bit smarter but clearly not. They've also had to borrow more money from Douglas Park  and he's assured another 800k just to get them through to the end of the season. Meanwhile Barton on a rumoured 20k a week has just had a 7 week holiday.

With regards to the league, there's little for Celtic to cheer about when the season's over by the end of October.

Looks to me that Rangers were banking on Barton spouting loads of shit on twitter to get themselves an easy gross disciplinary dismissal but he's kept his nose clean and called their bluff.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on February 11, 2017, 03:57:31 AM
What a fucking joke Rangers are. First they announce that they'd accepted Warburton's resignation and now him and Weir have come out and denied resigning.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 04, 2017, 08:16:38 PM
Rodgers still as deluded as every and chatting absolute bollocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39156707

Quote
Financially, Scottish football doesn't have the same rewards or the same propaganda that surrounds some of the other leagues, but it's still a very very competitive league."

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: kramer0 on March 04, 2017, 08:30:33 PM
Rodgers still as deluded as every and chatting absolute bollocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39156707



This would be a good place to leave this. (Apologies if it's already been posted elsewhere.)

https://twitter.com/_AndyHa/status/837067813495926784 (https://twitter.com/_AndyHa/status/837067813495926784)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 04, 2017, 10:24:58 PM
Probably a sad reflection on how far Scottish football has fallen when one of the greats of the game and Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell passed away earlier this week without hardly a mention outside of Scotland.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 12, 2017, 05:33:21 AM
I'm trying to keep Thomas's thread going here. :)

So, might give The Old Firm a watch tomorrow. There probably won't be much quality on show but hopefully some controversy, they're rarely a dull encounter.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 12, 2017, 06:21:09 AM
Funniest game in world football.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 12, 2017, 07:58:51 PM
Rodgers out!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: GLewis on March 12, 2017, 11:27:31 PM
Rodgers out!

To be fair not beating a team with Clint Hill in it is fair grounds for me.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 12, 2017, 11:39:48 PM
To be fair not beating a team with Clint Hill in it is fair grounds for me.

Especially when you let him score.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on April 03, 2017, 12:42:00 AM
Celtic manage to retain the title. Close fought thing, scraped over the line with just 8 games to spare.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on April 03, 2017, 01:17:12 AM
Can it still be called a major honour? Is any professional league a major honour whatever the standard?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on April 03, 2017, 03:55:40 AM
Celtic manage to retain the title. Close fought thing, scraped over the line with just 8 games to spare.
..............some podgy kid on Sky saying ' I've supported Celtic all my life (!) and they just keep winning titles ' .Well they would wouldn't they ? What's the point of Scottish football ?
Title: Pedro sacked
Post by: Ramjam on October 27, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Glasgow Ranges have sacked manager Pedro, Celtic fans who I have spoken to are delighted as they thought he would have been a coach capable of putting a quality squad together that would challenge them for the title,

Koeman anyone?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on October 27, 2017, 02:26:32 PM
Terrible appointment in the first place, I've still to meet a Rangers fan never mind Celtic who thought he'd challenge for the title.

Sounds like he's an absolute nutter as well. Started calling out his players in public which is never a good thing.

I don't think Rangers are out of the woods yet, they're still fucking up at board level on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 27, 2017, 02:34:47 PM
He looks like he should be a bartender on Benidorm.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Ramjam on October 27, 2017, 02:36:27 PM
He looks like he should be a bartender on Benidorm.

Maybe thats his next job
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on October 28, 2017, 03:36:08 AM
Always thought Caixinha was a loose cannon and wouldn't last long. Now there's talk Rangers want Derek McInnes from Aberdeen, they can fuck off.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on February 27, 2018, 04:53:26 AM
On KT being Scotland Captain. Aged 20.


His goal vs Aberdeen was very good. Ran the length of the pitch for a pass to score the winner then ran the length of the park in the opposite direction to celebrate with the fans.  :)

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 27, 2018, 05:02:26 AM
On KT being Scotland Captain. Aged 20.


His goal vs Aberdeen was very good. Ran the length of the pitch for a pass to score the winner then ran the length of the park in the opposite direction to celebrate with the fans.  :)


Keepers gotta do better
Admirable fitness tho
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on February 27, 2018, 05:12:19 AM
Keepers gotta do better
Admirable fitness tho

I think for a LB its still a great finish, although I love the kid so I probably would say that.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 27, 2018, 05:14:07 AM
I think for a LB its still a great finish, although I love the kid so I probably would say that.
Never a fan of keepers getting beat that way, it's a good strike mind
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Thomas on February 27, 2018, 07:21:55 AM
Never a fan of keepers getting beat that way, it's a good strike mind


This made me laugh as well Broooonie!

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on February 28, 2018, 12:43:55 AM
The Scottish Lee Cattermole.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: blargins on February 28, 2018, 01:43:48 AM
The Scottish Lee Cattermole.

Is he that good?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on February 28, 2018, 02:07:20 AM
Is he that good?

Probably about the same. :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 29, 2018, 09:23:54 PM
Stuck this in here for you Gash...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/18/world-cup-moments-scotland-1978-rollercoaster


Denis Law. Say no more...
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on March 29, 2018, 10:46:54 PM
Stuck this in here for you Gash...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/18/world-cup-moments-scotland-1978-rollercoaster


Denis Law. Say no more...
.................I keep waiting for him to turn up in an episode of Still Game
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on March 30, 2018, 01:02:16 AM
Stuck this in here for you Gash...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/18/world-cup-moments-scotland-1978-rollercoaster


Denis Law. Say no more...

Crazy that we were actually touted as outsiders to win it, although we should have done far better than we did.

It wasn't actually that bad a squad with some decent players playing at a decent level, even into the 80's and early 90's should have done better at tournaments than we did. Now we're just made up of fringe Premier League and Championship players with Scottish grandparents and a smattering of Scottish Premiership players.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2018, 01:58:15 AM
Crazy that we were actually touted as outsiders to win it, although we should have done far better than we did.

It wasn't actually that bad a squad with some decent players playing at a decent level, even into the 80's and early 90's should have done better at tournaments than we did. Now we're just made up of fringe Premier League and Championship players with Scottish grandparents and a smattering of Scottish Premiership players.

Only if he'd played Gemmill & Souness! Some great memories. As a fan of Billy Connolly & Alex Harvey I was on your side.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheTone on April 27, 2018, 06:26:50 PM
Gerrard linked with the Rangers job

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on April 27, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
Gerrard linked with the Rangers job


..............always liked Rangers until I heard that.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on April 29, 2018, 07:10:29 AM
Sounds like this is very much on. Much as I don't like him I think it's a great move for all parties.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-gerrard-verge-rangers-deal-12447098
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jamokachi on April 29, 2018, 07:28:41 AM
Sounds like this is very much on. Much as I don't like him I think it's a great move for all parties.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-gerrard-verge-rangers-deal-12447098

Can't help but be reminded of Barnes at Celtic.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Shogun on April 29, 2018, 08:11:28 AM
He'll be awful, I've got no doubt.
Title: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: kramer0 on April 29, 2018, 08:25:43 AM
I'm hoping he has fluke success there so Liverpool want to hire him. Then he can fail miserably.

I know it's petty but fuck him.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on April 29, 2018, 05:08:48 PM
Hope he has a terrible time.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on April 29, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
Sunday Supp say it's like the shite are sending him out on loan until he takes over from Klopp. Alison Rudd calling him Stevie G ,nauseating stuff.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Toffee1 on April 29, 2018, 05:27:53 PM
Sunday Supp say it's like the shite are sending him out on loan until he takes over from Klopp. Alison Rudd calling him Stevie G ,nauseating stuff.

It must be so hard for these journalists and pundits to do their jobs when they have their heads continually up either Salah, Gerrard and Allardyce's arse.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on April 29, 2018, 07:55:10 PM
If he was watching today he'll go nowhere near the job.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: blargins on April 29, 2018, 08:08:34 PM
I think it's great news for Scottish football. If Gerrard does become manager, it's guaranteed he'll stop Brendan Rodgers from winning a title again...
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on April 29, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
Sunday Supp say it's like the shite are sending him out on loan until he takes over from Klopp. Alison Rudd calling him Stevie G ,nauseating stuff.

She is the absolute worst when it comes to smug, self serving football journos.

I remember a few months back on Sunday supplement when they were asked the question 'What's the best individual performance you've seen live?'

Her answer? Jari Litnamens debut for the shite.

Just say Messi like a fucking normal person please.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 29, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Anyone above the age of 11 that says stevie g needs a fucking kicking.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Major Clanger on April 29, 2018, 10:44:28 PM
She is the absolute worst when it comes to smug, self serving football journos.

I remember a few months back on Sunday supplement when they were asked the question 'What's the best individual performance you've seen live?'

Her answer? Jari Litnamens debut for the shite.

Just say Messi like a fucking normal person please.

Or Straqualursi.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on April 30, 2018, 12:25:07 AM
Can't help but be reminded of Barnes at Celtic.

Think he'd more likely do a Souness than a Barnes.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jamokachi on April 30, 2018, 04:38:33 AM
Think he'd more likely do a Souness than a Barnes.

I'm not that old.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 30, 2018, 05:07:45 AM
Think he'd more likely do a Souness than a Barnes.
Start playing again and two foot people in the chest?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 01, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
Might speed up Gerrard's arrival.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43961178
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 04, 2018, 03:45:18 PM
Gerrard's agreed to join Rangers apparently. I think it's a bit win/win for him. If he's a success it's great experience for him and he'll be seen as the man who took the fight back to Celtic and if it goes tits up he can blame all the ongoing turmoil behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: KevtheRat on May 04, 2018, 05:47:57 PM
Gerrard's agreed to join Rangers apparently. I think it's a bit win/win for him. If he's a success it's great experience for him and he'll be seen as the man who took the fight back to Celtic and if it goes tits up he can blame all the ongoing turmoil behind the scenes.

Wouldn't be surprised if he agreed a bit of a deal with Liverpool too to take some fringe players up there on season long loans etc to get some game experience.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Toffee1 on May 04, 2018, 05:59:52 PM
Hopefully for his sake, there won't be too many slip ups.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 04, 2018, 06:34:45 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if he agreed a bit of a deal with Liverpool too to take some fringe players up there on season long loans etc to get some game experience.

Danny Ings likes this
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 04, 2018, 10:11:05 PM
hehehheehehe

https://twitter.com/umbro/status/992395967403122690
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Ross on May 04, 2018, 10:15:49 PM
I think Rangers have misunderstood about how Gerrard is the only man who can stop Rodgers winning a title..
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 04, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
Huge risk this by both parties
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Mayor Farnum on May 05, 2018, 12:49:56 AM
You would assume if they are employing Gerrard they are prepared to back him. If that backing isn't forthcoming Gerrard could leave with his reputation unscathed.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on May 05, 2018, 01:10:23 AM
Can't turn down the Rangers job as your first foray into management.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 05, 2018, 01:38:17 AM
Good for Scottish football as well, love him or hate he's a very high profile appointment and while they won't attract some of the top names they used to what you player wouldn't want to go to Rangers and learn from him.

Haven't seen anything about backroom staff but some experience wouldn't go amiss.

At least he'll be able to carry on his BT Sport Champions League commitments for another few years. ;)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Shogun on May 05, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
I'll be surprised if he lasts the season.

The bloke is seriously thick.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 05, 2018, 01:49:32 AM
Gary McAllister's his assistant.

Apparently wants Skrtel at the club. I think we can expect a few over the hill ex Liverpool players to be linked with the club over the next few months.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Simon Paul on May 05, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
Gary McAllister's his assistant.

Apparently wants Skrtel at the club. I think we can expect a few over the hill ex Liverpool players to be linked with the club over the next few months.
A few??
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Ramjam on May 05, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
Sammy Lee?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bluedylan on May 05, 2018, 05:13:23 PM
Every chance Gerrard crashes and burns there, and then it becomes very difficult for him to get a top job after that. Excellent news.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: boothill on May 06, 2018, 04:46:52 AM
Made me chuckle
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: blargins on May 06, 2018, 06:39:36 AM
That hurts my eyes.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Shogun on May 06, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
Yes!

https://twitter.com/toptackles/status/993151962286886912
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: TheRam on May 06, 2018, 11:42:49 PM
Yes!

https://twitter.com/toptackles/status/993151962286886912

Thomas is fuming.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 06, 2018, 11:57:09 PM
Haha, good lad!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 07, 2018, 12:05:24 AM
Well in naisy
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 09, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
Offered a two match ban.

https://www-dailyrecord-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-naismith-hit-two-game-12506506.amp?amp_js_v=a1&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQGCAEYASgB#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyrecord.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Fsteven-naismith-hit-two-game-12506506
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Ramjam on May 10, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
Offered a two match ban.

https://www-dailyrecord-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-naismith-hit-two-game-12506506.amp?amp_js_v=a1&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQGCAEYASgB#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyrecord.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Fsteven-naismith-hit-two-game-12506506
Do they know hes not playing for Everton anymore?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on May 13, 2018, 03:06:53 AM
Genuinely didn't know Steven Naismith was on loan at Hearts until now.

I barely know what goes on in Scottish football these days.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 13, 2018, 03:10:07 AM
Don't know what they've told Gerrard about transfer kittys but a(nother) share issue worth 6m and no outside investment isn't going to get them very far.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2018, 03:11:05 AM
Don't know what they've told Gerrard about transfer kittys but a(nother) share issue worth 6m and no outside investment isn't going to get them very far.
He will loan the fuck out of Liverpool and bring in old friends on that budget
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on May 13, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
He will loan the fuck out of Liverpool and bring in old friends on that budget

He could do worse I suppose. It'll probably work to an extent as well, I remember Kilmarnock doing similar a few years ago, McCoist, Burns, Durrant, Nevin, Alan McNally (there won't be many transfers from Bayern to Killie these days) etc, signed a couple of youngster Colin Mckee and Neil Whitworth from Man Utd for about 350k for the pair, huge money now for them never mind 20 years. It worked though, at the time they were trying to stay and establish themselves in the SPL and they've been there ever since, even if they've had a couple of Evertonesque relegation escapes.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on May 14, 2018, 05:12:25 AM
At least Aberdeen finished 2nd, beating Celtic at Parkhead for the first time in the league since 2004.

The Hibs Rangers game was insane though

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: boothill on May 14, 2018, 06:48:34 AM
At least Aberdeen finished 2nd, beating Celtic at Parkhead for the first time in the league since 2004.

The Hibs Rangers game was insane though
i did laugh at lennons celebration
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on June 22, 2018, 05:35:01 AM
 ;D

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Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Macca77 on July 07, 2018, 05:02:11 AM
Pre season game v Bury

https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/1015320833038929920
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Post by: Gash on July 07, 2018, 05:10:49 AM
Pumped them 6-0 as well.
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Post by: Gash on July 07, 2018, 05:32:39 AM
Naismith re-signed for Hearts on loan for the season from Norwich.
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Post by: Gash on July 19, 2018, 07:24:06 PM
Poor reflection on the game in Scotland when a player leaves the club that finished 2nd and probably the 3rd biggest in the country to go and play for Salford City in the National League.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44877537
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Post by: toffee_scot on July 20, 2018, 02:47:56 AM
Poor reflection on the game in Scotland when a player leaves the club that finished 2nd and probably the 3rd biggest in the country to go and play for Salford City in the National League.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44877537

Yeah quite disappointed at that especially as he's been a key player for Aberdeen, 5th tier of English football FFS.

The only other name I recognise in the Salford team though is Ibou Touray who used to be an Everton player, he's also picked up a few international caps for Gambia.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bluestevie on July 20, 2018, 05:55:11 AM
Hibs were involved in a batshit mental second leg tonight against Runavik, they were 2 down very early on defending a 6-1 lead, then 3-2 down before eventually winning 6-4, had they not had such a big advantage they could have easily bottled it when it got to 4-4
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Post by: Redartin on July 20, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
Poor reflection on the game in Scotland when a player leaves the club that finished 2nd and probably the 3rd biggest in the country to go and play for Salford City in the National League.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44877537
He allegedly doubled his wages from 2K TO 4K per week.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on July 20, 2018, 10:32:45 PM
He allegedly doubled his wages from 2K TO 4K per week.

Yeah, I saw that earlier. I suppose Salford are the exception to the norm with their spending but even so, getting outspent by a 6th tier club in England is pretty poor.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on July 22, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Been watching a bit of Raith v. Hearts from yesterday including Naisy scoring a pen in the shoot-out. I thought at first Klopp was on the touchline but it was his lookalike ,Craig Levine.
The ground is very near the sea ,Kirkcaldy looks a bonny place by the way.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on July 22, 2018, 08:30:31 PM
Been watching a bit of Raith v. Hearts from yesterday including Naisy scoring a pen in the shoot-out. I thought at first Klopp was on the touchline but it was his lookalike ,Craig Levine.
The ground is very near the sea ,Kirkcaldy looks a bonny place by the way.

Haven't been for years but it used to be a shithole. I remember watching a documentary about football away days a few years ago, they were interviewing a Raith fan and he was saying how shit the place was, just at that a small plane was flying over, he looked then said "see, here's the UN food parcels coming".  :snigger:
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Post by: Alanvideo on July 22, 2018, 09:27:48 PM
Haven't been for years but it used to be a shithole. I remember watching a documentary about football away days a few years ago, they were interviewing a Raith fan and he was saying how shit the place was, just at that a small plane was flying over, he looked then said "see, here's the UN food parcels coming".  :snigger:
..................well it looked quite nice today with the sun shining on the blue sea. I guess it's like a lot of other post-industrial towns ,lacking in investment and new jobs.
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Post by: Shogun on August 11, 2018, 08:23:46 PM
Naisy in bellend mode today
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Post by: Gash on August 11, 2018, 08:31:43 PM
Nice, Celtic beaten again, they're not going into their European tie high in confidence. Hearts were 4/1 as well, needless to say I saw that as a great opportunity to make a couple of quid so did a double on them and Newcastle.  ::)
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Post by: Outworlder47 on August 15, 2018, 02:23:43 AM
Nice, Celtic beaten again, they're not going into their European tie high in confidence. Hearts were 4/1 as well, needless to say I saw that as a great opportunity to make a couple of quid so did a double on them and Newcastle.  ::)

Celtic look dire in defence, down 2-0 and 3-1 on aggregate with less than half an hour remaining. Apparently either Dedryck Boyata isn't fit (his claim), or he's thrown a fit in hopes of forcing a move (Brendan's claim). I laugh.
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 15, 2018, 02:28:02 AM
Always going to happen as soon as they drew a half-decent side in the qualifiers.
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Post by: Gash on August 15, 2018, 02:31:08 AM
Brace yourself for the "if we had Premier League money" shouts.
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Post by: Alanvideo on August 15, 2018, 02:57:15 AM
That's Celtic away to the Thursday league  :snigger:
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Post by: Outworlder47 on August 15, 2018, 03:55:35 AM
That's Celtic away to the Thursday league  :snigger:

To either Latvia or Lithuania!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 15, 2018, 06:08:56 AM
What an absolute Sesame Street league those idiots have up there. 
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Post by: Ramjam on August 15, 2018, 10:22:37 AM
They will find things more difficult now that the CL money has gone, players with a decent sale value will now go as well, bet they wish that they had taken the Tierney money now.
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Post by: Alanvideo on August 15, 2018, 04:17:28 PM
They will find things more difficult now that the CL money has gone, players with a decent sale value will now go as well, bet they wish that they had taken the Tierney money now.
.................this is good for Rangers ,what a shame they are now tainted by Gerrard.
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Post by: gizzblue on August 16, 2018, 10:46:58 PM
More tin pot results from the one team league winners . lolol

Wouldn't last five minutes in the championship .
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Post by: Gash on August 17, 2018, 12:55:31 AM
More tin pot results from the one team league winners . lolol

Wouldn't last five minutes in the championship .

To be fair, although I take the piss out of Celtic and Rangers fans saying 'if we had the Permier League money' they both would become a force in English football if they got in. Celtic would easily cope in the Championship, Rangers not so much at the moment but if/when they both got into the Premier League, with the money that's there they'd be right up there with the biggest clubs within a few years as the Premier League would only increase their fan base amd global following

I know it's a fairly light hearted argument as it'll never happen but it's daft to say that because of where they play at the moment they wouldn't do well in England with the finances that would come with it. Rangers have shown that with the right finances they're easily a bigger draw than half the teams in the Premier League. Even if it did ultimately ruin them.
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 17, 2018, 01:02:22 AM
To be fair, although I take the piss out of Celtic and Rangers fans saying 'if we had the Permier League money' they both would become a force in English football if they got in. Celtic would easily cope in the Championship, Rangers not so much at the moment but if/when they both got into the Premier League, with the money that's there they'd be right up there with the biggest clubs within a few years as the Premier League would only increase their fan base amd global following

I know it's a fairly light hearted argument as it'll never happen but it's daft to say that because of where they play at the moment they wouldn't do well in England with the finances that would come with it. Rangers have shown that with the right finances they're easily a bigger draw than half the teams in the Premier League. Even if it did ultimately ruin them.

Its a bit of a meaningless argument though isnt it. People comment on the shite football and the response is give me 150 million and wed be good. Its true of absolutely every big club in every country if you just stuck them in a rich league

No chance of it ever happening anyways because theres nothing in it for any English club. Theyd be turkeys voting for Christmas
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Post by: Gash on August 17, 2018, 01:12:22 AM
Its a bit of a meaningless argument though isnt it. People comment on the shite football and the response is give me 150 million and wed be good. Its true of absolutely every big club in every country if you just stuck them in a rich league

No chance of it ever happening anyways because theres nothing in it for any English club. Theyd be turkeys voting for Christmas

Do you ever fully read posts you reply to or just the first few words before launching into a completely pointless post?
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Post by: gizzblue on August 17, 2018, 01:34:10 AM
To be fair, although I take the piss out of Celtic and Rangers fans saying 'if we had the Permier League money' they both would become a force in English football if they got in. Celtic would easily cope in the Championship, Rangers not so much at the moment but if/when they both got into the Premier League, with the money that's there they'd be right up there with the biggest clubs within a few years as the Premier League would only increase their fan base amd global following

I know it's a fairly light hearted argument as it'll never happen but it's daft to say that because of where they play at the moment they wouldn't do well in England with the finances that would come with it. Rangers have shown that with the right finances they're easily a bigger draw than half the teams in the Premier League. Even if it did ultimately ruin them.

To be totally honest Gash. ..I just don't see it with either of them they play in a league were only maybe three teams pose a threat to them in results a season ....
as for the money stuff any team in the first two/three tiers of our footy could say the same thing ...again support numbers is basically the same thing ...there are only a handful of teams worth bothering with most Scottish lads I know support two teams ranger or Celtic and their local team too .
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 17, 2018, 01:37:21 AM
Do you ever fully read posts you reply to or just the first few words before launching into a completely pointless post?

Yeah I was just kind of agreeing with you in a muddled up way. We cant all just post inspiring insights like yourself.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 17, 2018, 01:39:54 AM
To be totally honest Gash. ..I just don't see it with either of them they play in a league were only maybe three teams pose a threat to them in results a season ....
as for the money stuff any team in the first two/three tiers of our footy could say the same thing ...again support numbers is basically the same thing ...there are only a handful of teams worth bothering with most Scottish lads I know support two teams ranger or Celtic and their local team too .

Like I said, you need forget about where they play at the moment and look at the bigger picture. Anyway, also asaid it was meant as a light hearted debate but @KoemansNumberTens (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3905) has sucked any of my interest out of it now. ;)
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Post by: Gash on August 17, 2018, 01:40:52 AM
Yeah I was just kind of agreeing with you in a muddled up way. We cant all just post inspiring insights like yourself.

Oh don't worry, I can't talk shite too, just not as often or as well as you. :)
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 17, 2018, 01:48:16 AM
Oh don't worry, I can't talk shite too, just not as often or as well as you. :)

Haha practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 17, 2018, 03:37:33 AM
Hibs out of Europe, Rangers go to Russia, and Celtic gets shipped out to Lithuania.

Quality teams in Scotland, for sure...
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 17, 2018, 04:38:10 AM
Hibs out of Europe, Rangers go to Russia, and Celtic gets shipped out to Lithuania.

Quality teams in Scotland, for sure...

No one said they were quality, well, apart from die hard Rangers and Celtic fans.

The way I see it is this, Scottish football is poor and obviously nowhere near the level of the Premier League and in the main the Championship either. But if everyone said "it's shit" about various leagues then we wouldn't bother watching Championship, League One or League Two football never mind non league and amateur football but every level has it's fans.

I'm not saying Scottish football is good but (and I know people will say I'm as bias) it's not that bad, it has it's level and much like a lot of League One and Two games, there's some pretty decent games in it. If anything Rangers and Celtic's short comings (although Celtic have qualified for the group stages in the last few years) in Europe has become a stick to beat them with, yet if teams at the same level as some people see them at somehow got into Europe they'd be supporting them as underdogs and willing them to do well. We can't really say Scottish football is the equivalent of League One football then laugh when they get knocked out of Europe. I do but that's as much to laugh at the fans than the club. :)

The only reason people throw in the "it's shit" shouts is that people compare it to the Premier League a lot of the time and that's where the other side of the argument comes from. If you watch it in context and don't expect it to be world class then it can be quite good, just like the Championship, League One and League Two who people say Scotland's top league's at a level with. Most people that say it's shit never even watch games anyway but probably sit and enjoy many lower league games in England.
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Post by: bluestevie on August 18, 2018, 06:05:47 AM
What's the opinion like up there Gash in relation to having Premiership U20, Welsh, Irish, Northern Irish and now English teams competing in the Challenge Cup? Is it a good thing or is it being treated as as unnecessary as having U21 teams playing in the Football League Trophy down here?
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Post by: Gash on August 18, 2018, 06:17:12 AM
What's the opinion like up there Gash in relation to having Premiership U20, Welsh, Irish, Northern Irish and now English teams competing in the Challenge Cup? Is it a good thing or is it being treated as as unnecessary as having U21 teams playing in the Football League Trophy down here?

I haven't really heard many comments on it to be honest. It's a bit like the Johnson's Paint Trophy (or whatever it is these days) so it's not really a competition that get's much exposure. I think the final averages about 7-8k fans then, had 40 odd thousand when Rangers won it then dipped back to the few thousands. Personally I think it's a bit daft but if that's what they want to do then it's up to them, it's just another daft Scottish football thing, a bit like having the League Cup in group stages first and the top 6 spilt that they do in the Premiership.

They need a big restructure here rather than just messing around with cups and splitting the table at the end of the season.
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Post by: Ramjam on August 19, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Is this for real @Gash? 10m
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Post by: Gash on August 19, 2018, 04:37:26 PM
Is this for real @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14)? 10m

Seems to be a few places reporting it, although they're all just rehashing the same story. I don't think they'd let him go for that much though. Even without the Champions League money they'll still be pretty well off and there would be a fans revolt if they took 10m for him just to make up a CL shortfall when most of the criticism has been due to lack of recruitment in the first place.
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Post by: blueToffee on August 24, 2018, 02:15:00 AM
Suduva (?) 1-1 Celtic in Europa League qualifying. Yeesh.

Celtic could well need to sell Tiernay if they keep on going like this. Albeit, you'd expect them to win the home leg.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 24, 2018, 04:28:34 AM
Suduva (?) 1-1 Celtic in Europa League qualifying. Yeesh.

Celtic could well need to sell Tiernay if they keep on going like this. Albeit, you'd expect them to win the home leg.

They'll be hoping to repeat the last time they met at Parkhead, pumped them 8-1.

They're probably in a better position that Rangers, only won 1-0 at home.
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Post by: Shogun on August 24, 2018, 05:08:58 AM
Thought Id gone nuts seeing Lafferty for Rangers after he scored for Hearts last week
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Post by: Brownie on August 24, 2018, 06:37:15 AM
Thought Id gone nuts seeing Lafferty for Rangers after he scored for Hearts last week

Can't stand that cunt. Would love to chin him
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: blairio on August 24, 2018, 11:29:37 AM
Scottish football's shite because of the Old Firm not despite them. They're not really massive clubs anymore either, they are in Scotland but outside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football, in fact, inside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football either.

Scottish football and the Old Firm have been left behind by all the other big leagues in Europe. The influx of money hasn't helped either, as Warburton has said, players would rather leave and go and play in the Championship and earn more money,(plus it's a better level) you only need to look at the Scottish national side, it's made up largely of Premier League squad players and Championship players. Rangers have a bit of a cheek moaning about that though, given that they were taking players from the SPL into the fourth tier of Scottish football with the lure of big wages.

The structure's all wrong as well, they had a chance a year or two ago to revamp Scottish football and all the did was copy the names of the English leagues such is the lack of idea in Scottish football. There's also not the population to sustain a decent level of support and therefore income for the clubs, low populated towns and the lure of the Old Firm are a huge problem with central belt and east coast full of small, poorly supported clubs. It'll never happen because football is so tribal but if they cut it down to three leagues of 10-12 clubs and merged several together it would make a huge difference. Dundee and Dundee Utd are on the same street and both looking in to new grounds, why they don't ground share is bonkers. As an extreme they could even merge the clubs, one club in Dundee being successful and getting 15-20k at a game is better than the two yo-yo clubs they have at the moment. Same in the central belt, Hibs and Hearts can just about stand on their own two feet but and Edinburgh club getting 30-35k at games would be brilliant. Clubs like Falkirk and Livingstone constantly live hand to mouth, they could perhaps merge, Livingstone only came from the fall of Meadowbank and probably ended up taking supporters from Falkirk.

Clubs like Clyde, Clydebank, Partick, Hamilton, Motherwell, Dumbarton, Morton, St Mirren etc spend their lives going up and down the leagues struggling to survive. Kilmarnock have a lovely stadium but can't get 5000 through the gate most weeks, Ayr barely getting a few hundred, maybe they could merge to form an Ayrshire club. Like I said due to the tribal nature of football merging will never happen but until something is done to change it massively, Scottish football is always going to struggle.

It's Jason Cummings by the way. :) It's a shame really, Everton used to always have a fairly strong connection with Scotland having had some club greats over the years. I don't really watch enough Scottish football to see the players but I can't think of any in the Scottish Premiership that I'd want at Everton. The problem with the SP is that it's probably not much better than League 1 in standard so for any player to go to the Premier League is a huge jump in class.
You know nothing about Scotland or Scottish football.
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Post by: Gash on August 24, 2018, 02:20:10 PM
You know nothing about Scotland or Scottish football.

Great contribution to the discussion. Try adding something worthwhile rather than tell someone born and bred in a country they know nothing about it.

So, are you Rangers or Celtic?
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Jamokachi on August 24, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
Why do Scotts have long skinny dicks?

Because they're so fucking tight fisted.

 :badum:

Sorry.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 24, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
Why do Scotts have long skinny dicks?

Because they're so fucking tight fisted.

 :badum:

Sorry.

*Must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke, must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke, must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke......................... ............................. ;)
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Post by: Jamokachi on August 24, 2018, 06:01:12 PM
*Must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke, must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke, must not make Welsh sheep shagger joke......................... ............................. ;)

Haha, I actually heard that skinny dick one at work today. Thought I'd share ;)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Bally on August 25, 2018, 07:42:41 PM
You know nothing about Scotland or Scottish football.
Hahahahhaha he says to the Scot on the forum hahahahaha fucking hell made my day that hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 25, 2018, 07:56:52 PM
Hahahahhaha he says to the Scot on the forum hahahahaha fucking hell made my day that hahahahaha.

To be fair, I did spell Livingston wrong.  :blush:
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Post by: toffee_scot on August 28, 2018, 01:11:30 AM
To be fair, I did spell Livingston wrong.  :blush:

Plus you mentioned Clydebank, a football entity that hasn't existed for the past 16 years  ;)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 28, 2018, 01:13:24 AM
Plus you mentioned Clydebank, a football entity that hasn't existed for the past 16 years  ;)


Strictly speaking they do, they just don't play in the Football League anymore. Ayrshire Juniors now I think?

Which nicely backs up the point I was making. :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: toffee_scot on August 28, 2018, 01:22:46 AM
Strictly speaking they do, they just don't play in the Football League anymore. Ayrshire Juniors now I think?

Which nicely backs up the point I was making. :)

To be fair I think that last iteration of Clydebank kind of merged with the old Airdrieonians club to become Airdrie United which then became Airdrieonians again even though the distance between the two locations is about 20 miles.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on August 28, 2018, 01:35:40 AM
To be fair I think that last iteration of Clydebank kind of merged with the old Airdrieonians club to become Airdrie United which then became Airdrieonians again even though the distance between the two locations is about 20 miles.

Yeah, you could be right about that, Clydebank as it is now is a supporter owned club by the sound of it. Airdrie had the best name of a stadium anywhere back then, The Shyberry Excelsior Stadium. :)

Joking aside, it does back up what I said about there being too many clubs in such a small area, Clydebank and Airdrie are just two examples of clubs that have yoyo'd up and down and ultimately gone out of business. Gretna is another, although that was a mad owner as much as anything but they never had the fan base to sustain the spending that Brookes Mileson was throwing the the club. Carlisle fans always breathe a sigh of relief, he tried to buy them before Gretna.

I'm a bit disappointed to see that @blairio (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6905) has been logged on several times and not added to the discussion rather than just say someone's chatting shite.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Alanvideo on August 28, 2018, 03:14:23 AM
Yeah, you could be right about that, Clydebank as it is now is a supporter owned club by the sound of it. Airdrie had the best name of a stadium anywhere back then, The Shyberry Excelsior Stadium. :)

Joking aside, it does back up what I said about there being too many clubs in such a small area, Clydebank and Airdrie are just two examples of clubs that have yoyo'd up and down and ultimately gone out of business. Gretna is another, although that was a mad owner as much as anything but they never had the fan base to sustain the spending that Brookes Mileson was throwing the the club. Carlisle fans always breathe a sigh of relief, he tried to buy them before Gretna.

I'm a bit disappointed to see that @blairio (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6905) has been logged on several times and not added to the discussion rather than just say someone's chatting shite.
.................I believe there is a chance of resurrecting Third Lanark . Hi Hi .  :hail:
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
Who's this Naismith lad playing for Hearts? Reckon he could do a job??

 :snigger:
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 01, 2018, 10:05:59 PM
Who's this Naismith lad playing for Hearts? Reckon he could do a job??

 :snigger:

Mad the Johnny Russell's in the Scotland squad and Naismith isn't.

Although it's also mad that Norwich are still paying 40k of Naismith's 50k a week wages.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: pjk on September 02, 2018, 03:50:07 AM
One of our old boys had a barn stormer today. He's a lad isn't he! :)




https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45305118


Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bluenuck on September 02, 2018, 12:25:25 PM
Great contribution to the discussion. Try adding something worthwhile rather than tell someone born and bred in a country they know nothing about it.

So, are you Rangers or Celtic?

He's Partick thistle.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: bluenuck on September 02, 2018, 12:28:27 PM
Who's this Naismith lad playing for Hearts? Reckon he could do a job??

 :snigger:

You mean this guy? Always loved me a little Naismith.

Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 09, 2018, 06:08:19 AM
The commentary's about as funny as the ref's decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45409768
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 11, 2018, 09:44:20 PM
Not a big fan of Hampden as it is but glad to see the SFA have seen sense to remain there. Last nights attendance was proof that moving to Murrayfield would have been a waste of time, we struggle to fill Hampden never mind moving to an even bigger stadium. Now that the SFA are buying the ground they have said they'll look at redeveloping it, they she should never have kept it as an oval when they redeveloped it in the 90's.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: pjk on September 15, 2018, 11:10:10 PM
Maybe we let him go too early? Naisy with his 8th of the season.:)



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45456584
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 16, 2018, 12:46:18 AM
Maybe we let him go too early? Naisy with his 8th of the season.:)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45456584

Much as I like him and at the time it didn't look great business replacing him with Niasse, he hasn't been great since he left although I think he's had a couple of injuries. Proving now that he's still a level above the Scottish Premiership though, looks like Norwich could use his goals as well.

Good start for Hearts, five wins from five. Although as sure as death and taxes someone always runs the Old Firm (Celtic at the moment) close then fall away as the season goes on.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: pjk on September 16, 2018, 01:36:20 AM
Much as I like him and at the time it didn't look great business replacing him with Niasse, he hasn't been great since he left although I think he's had a couple of injuries. Proving now that he's still a level above the Scottish Premiership though, looks like Norwich could use his goals as well.

Good start for Hearts, five wins from five. Although as sure as death and taxes someone always runs the Old Firm (Celtic at the moment) close then fall away as the season goes on.



It was a little bit tongue in cheek, me saying bring him back. He's a great lad though and it's great to see him doing well. I think we all know, it's unlikely they'll win it. I rember Aberdeen when they had Ferguson as manager and they broke the mould. He'll be retiring in a few years, a cheeky Scottish title would round it off nicely for him. Wishful thinking for him really. :)
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Toffee1 on September 19, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1042360718161584128
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2018, 01:44:29 AM
39 Rangers want for a ticket v St Johnstone this weekend, 39 fucking quid!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Simon Paul on September 22, 2018, 02:06:36 AM
39 Rangers want for a ticket v St Johnstone this weekend, 39 fucking quid!
Seems like yesterday they didn't even know if theyd be selling tickets for a game 2 weeks away, let alone naming ridiculous prices!
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2018, 03:32:28 AM
Seems like yesterday they didn't even know if theyd be selling tickets for a game 2 weeks away, let alone naming ridiculous prices!

I know. It was my nephew who was telling me, he was going to buy the home top but it's 65! Says they're talking the piss out of the fans, there obviously a bit of optimisim around the club so they're just taking the piss out of the fans, there's only about 3000 general sale tickets available so they hiked the prices up. He's bought a ticket for the game this weekend, he didn't get a season ticket this year but his season ticket was 340 last year for 19 games, one of his mates got one in the main stand and it's 600 this season.

Although they way they've spent and added to the wage bill this year I still think there could be a sting in the tale for Rangers yet.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Simon Paul on September 22, 2018, 03:34:32 AM
I know. It was my nephew who was telling me, he was going to buy the home top but it's 65! Says they're talking the piss out of the fans, there obviously a bit of optimisim around the club so they're just taking the piss out of the fans, there's only about 3000 general sale tickets available so they hiked the prices up. He's bought a ticket for the game this weekend, he didn't get a season ticket this year but his season ticket was 340 last year for 19 games, one of his mates got one in the main stand and it's 600 this season.

Although they way they've spent and added to the wage bill this year I still think there could be a sting in the tale for Rangers yet.
Imagine there being a recent example of why you should be more careful as a football club.
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 23, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
Celtic starting the season well  :thumbsup:

Must be Dembele's fault for wanting to go somewhere bigger...
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 23, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
They'll probably blame the pitch.

Great job Steve Clarke's doing at Killie.
Title: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Everton Mint on September 23, 2018, 10:59:56 PM
Kilmarnock 2-1 Celtic   

Rangers 5-1 St Johnstone

Changing times up in Scotland ??
Title: Re: Scottish Football Thread (SPFL etc)
Post by: Gash on September 23, 2018, 11:04:57 PM
I think Rangers will it make a closer fought thing this season. Probably a bit of complacency at Celtic which Rogers will need to sort.

Hearts are the surprise and really should be six from six but Naismith missed a penalty yesterday.