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Title: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Thomas on August 30, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
Here goes nothing........ thread to talk about all things England e.g. who should be in the squad/whether Big Sam prefers Cheese & Onion pasties to Pukka Pies....  :whistle:

So, Big Sam has picked his first England Squad - has he completely bottled it? Kept the same captain, still trying to shoehorn Rooney in and omitted Barkley/Rashford and done the opposite (adding youth) of what he said he would do and gone for experience. How does the England Team improve and what does the Football Association/Team Manager/players need to be considering/playing like to do better?

Heres how Ball Street on Youtube (With Ped, representing Toffee TV) reacted to no Barkley/Wilshere/Rashford

Title: not everton related..but kind of...
Post by: formerKHL on September 02, 2016, 08:54:06 PM
I've always armchair  "supported" England over the years....

but since allardyce has taken over I cant get interested at all...especially since dropping our diamond...(the everton link to the thread)

I've had a few conversations with him over the years and he talks real football sense... but now I think he's just a "panic selection" by the FA......

anyone else feel the same..
Title: Re: not everton related..but kind of...
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 02, 2016, 09:23:58 PM
Why not? They've tried everything else.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluesthedaddy on September 05, 2016, 03:18:06 PM
Let's concentrate on the team's (not Belgium)we have players in and not this bunch of self obsessed underachievers. I wonder if woy would put stone's in now he's at shitte.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Brownie on September 06, 2016, 06:46:28 PM
Cymru am Byth!!!!!!!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: kramer0 on September 06, 2016, 07:55:06 PM
An interesting article about seedings and the FIFA world rankings. It's mostly about Wales but it does talk about implications for England.

http://thesetpieces.com/world-football/beating-system-wales-planned-seeding-success-calculator/ (http://thesetpieces.com/world-football/beating-system-wales-planned-seeding-success-calculator/)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 06, 2016, 08:04:30 PM
Didn't watch the game the other day, and have decided to swerve the England team altogether from now on.

Let's be honest, the vast majority of international football is fairly shite now. Possibly only the South American qualifiers are still vaguely interesting. In terms of the Europeans, two years of tedium in the qualifying process, followed by massively underwhelming tournaments. I know it's a cliche, but club football is a million miles ahead of it now.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 06, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
Didn't watch the game the other day, and have decided to swerve the England team altogether from now on.

Let's be honest, the vast majority of international football is fairly shite now. Possibly only the South American qualifiers are still vaguely interesting. In terms of the Europeans, two years of tedium in the qualifying process, followed by massively underwhelming tournaments. I know it's a cliche, but club football is a million miles ahead of it now.

It's a good job this isn't universally true because our club football is unimaginably shite.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 06, 2016, 11:22:08 PM
It's a good job this isn't universally true because our club football is unimaginably shite.

As in the premier league?

Nah. It's miles ahead of anything you see at international level.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 06, 2016, 11:39:54 PM
As in the premier league?

Nah. It's miles ahead of anything you see at international level.

No, as in the Hungarian league. Ranked as it does behind that footballing powerhouse Liechtenstein. And Liechtenstein is pulling away.

The only chance of supporting anyone if you're a Hungarian football fan is foreign clubs or the national team, which has  miraculously performed to a respectable level compared to the clubs.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Nicco on September 07, 2016, 01:50:34 AM
No, as in the Hungarian league. Ranked as it does behind that footballing powerhouse Liechtenstein. And Liechtenstein is pulling away.

The only chance of supporting anyone if you're a Hungarian football fan is foreign clubs or the national team, which has  miraculously performed to a respectable level compared to the clubs.
Are you serious? Behind Liechtenstein?

That is some bad hat Harry!

The Swedish league are surely not the best but we had Malmö FF in CL two years in a row and teams qulifying for EL groups every now and then. Last season Allsvenskan had an average of just under 10000 every game which is okay. Of course the clubs, just like in Hungary, can't compete with other clubs regarding money but we are at least better than Liechtenstein  :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 07, 2016, 02:25:20 AM
As in the premier league?

Nah. It's miles ahead of anything you see at international level.



Nah.

The German national side still wipes the floor with anything you can put in front of it from the prem.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 07, 2016, 02:44:09 AM
Are you serious? Behind Liechtenstein?

That is some bad hat Harry!

The Swedish league are surely not the best but we had Malmö FF in CL two years in a row and teams qulifying for EL groups every now and then. Last season Allsvenskan had an average of just under 10000 every game which is okay. Of course the clubs, just like in Hungary, can't compete with other clubs regarding money but we are at least better than Liechtenstein  :)

I think one of our clubs actually won a qualifying round this year. Average attendances are 2500, but that's a very generous estimate, the real figure is probably less than 2000. But at least you're forced to register if you want to attend a game. Not on the day of course, that'd be unthinkable. Plan ahead if you want to partake in the privilege of attending a domestic match. :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Nicco on September 07, 2016, 03:50:22 AM

The only chance of supporting anyone if you're a Hungarian football fan is foreign clubs or the national team, which has  miraculously performed to a respectable level compared to the clubs.
You were saying?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 07, 2016, 04:01:36 AM
Not arsed about the England team but after reading match reports reckon they may do a bit better without Rooney running the show. Hope they qualify for the world cup though as it won't be the same without them. Especially in Russia.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 08, 2016, 12:35:38 AM
I think one of our clubs actually won a qualifying round this year. Average attendances are 2500, but that's a very generous estimate, the real figure is probably less than 2000. But at least you're forced to register if you want to attend a game. Not on the day of course, that'd be unthinkable. Plan ahead if you want to partake in the privilege of attending a domestic match. :)

Aren't all domestic league games free to attend as well?? Or am I thinking of Bulgaria??

I remember hearing that somewhere years ago???
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 08, 2016, 02:39:22 AM
I don't mind watching England these days. It's kind of fun cheering on the other team.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 08, 2016, 04:15:03 AM
I don't mind watching England these days. It's kind of fun cheering on the other team.

Do you watch the game with a lovely pair of beige chinos and a crisp white linen shirt on and some aviator shades on??

Brown suede boots and an ethnic bracelt on that you got on a recent trip to Guatemala!!

Because you are absolutely cool as fuck!!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 08, 2016, 04:20:10 AM
Aren't all domestic league games free to attend as well?? Or am I thinking of Bulgaria??

I remember hearing that somewhere years ago???

No, they have the cheek to ask money for it as well. They should be paying to fans for that fucking dross, just ask @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60). :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 08, 2016, 04:50:38 AM
No, they have the cheek to ask money for it as well. They should be paying to fans for that fucking dross, just ask @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60). :)

That would explain the league 2 type level of attendances then!!

Hungarian football seems to have made a miraculous balls up of the UEFA attempts to get teams from national leagues with lower co-efficients into European competitions.

That in itself is a wonderful achievement!!😆
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 08, 2016, 04:53:36 AM
That would explain the league 2 type level of attendances then!!

Hungarian football seems to have made a miraculous balls up of the UEFA attempts to get teams from national leagues with lower co-efficients into European competitions.

That in itself is a wonderful achievement!!😆

We've gone full commie now, all the teams have a politician as their "patron", and the amount of money clubs get (from the taxpayer) fully depends on the standing of their patron in the government.

The only thing that hasn't returned to the 1950s is the quality.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 08, 2016, 04:16:50 PM

Do you watch the game with a lovely pair of beige chinos and a crisp white linen shirt on and some aviator shades on??

Brown suede boots and an ethnic bracelt on that you got on a recent trip to Guatemala!!

Because you are absolutely cool as fuck!!

Oh I see. Two decent England games in 30 years does that to you. I thought it would all change once we got rid of the so-called superstars, and maybe a manager cut from a different cloth, but after a while it's easy to become numb to it all.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 09, 2016, 03:21:32 AM
Oh I see. Two decent England games in 30 years does that to you. I thought it would all change once we got rid of the so-called superstars, and maybe a manager cut from a different cloth, but after a while it's easy to become numb to it all.

I couldn't blame anyone for being completely unmoved by England just now.

What I do find sad is someone who actively supports their national teams opponents.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 09, 2016, 05:01:34 AM

I couldn't blame anyone for being completely unmoved by England just now.

What I do find sad is someone who actively supports their national teams opponents.

It was a slight exaggeration I admit. But I feel nothing when we get beaten or exit a tournament. I gave up hoping so long ago. My feelings when we lost to Iceland were a mixture of disbelief and amusement.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on September 09, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
No, they have the cheek to ask money for it as well. They should be paying to fans for that fucking dross, just ask @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60). :)

I really enjoyed it , but it did feel like I could have been given a run out.  :snigger:

Kispest!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 09, 2016, 06:12:51 PM
I couldn't blame anyone for being completely unmoved by England just now.

What I do find sad is someone who actively supports their national teams opponents.

Why? Have you never preferred a non-British player or team in any sport over the English/British player or team?

It has nothing to do with hipsterism or whatever you appear to be attributing it to. Well, maybe it does for some, I can't speak for other people.

But sometimes the 'foreign' opposition are just so clearly better, more skillful, more driven or whatever it is, that you just prefer them and don't really care about nationalism.

For example, in tennis, there's no way on earth I would want Tim Henman to beat Federer or Del Potro or Murray, even though I'm English. That has fuck all to do with hipsterism. I love tennis, and those players are much, much better to watch, have a much bigger range of ability and arguably have much higher intensity.

I find it sad that people are so attached to jingoistic nationalism, over loving the actual sport they are following.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 09, 2016, 06:55:21 PM
Why? Have you never preferred a non-British player or team in any sport over the English/British player or team?

It has nothing to do with hipsterism or whatever you appear to be attributing it to. Well, maybe it does for some, I can't speak for other people.

But sometimes the 'foreign' opposition are just so clearly better, more skillful, more driven or whatever it is, that you just prefer them and don't really care about nationalism.

For example, in tennis, there's no way on earth I would want Tim Henman to beat Federer or Del Potro or Murray, even though I'm English. That has fuck all to do with hipsterism. I love tennis, and those players are much, much better to watch, have a much bigger range of ability and arguably have much higher intensity.

I find it sad that people are so attached to jingoistic nationalism, over loving the actual sport they are following.



To be honest, no I've not. I have a chuckle to myself when United or Liverpool get beat in Europe but that's more to do with the majority of my mates being one or the other.

Each to their own and that I guess. Hipster.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 09, 2016, 07:04:27 PM
To be honest, no I've not. I have a chuckle to myself when United or Liverpool get beat in Europe but that's more to do with the majority of my mates being one or the other.

Each to their own and that I guess. Hipster.

Yeah, each to their own, Little Englander ;)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 27, 2016, 04:16:55 AM
Sam might have only managed a couple of games before he's getting sacked 😳.

Some damning articles doing the rounds about him.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Risky on September 27, 2016, 04:20:21 AM
Just reading some of this now.  It's pretty serious shit and I'm struggling to see how he can keep the job if it's true.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 27, 2016, 04:25:01 AM
Just reading some of this now.  It's pretty serious shit and I'm struggling to see how he can keep the job if it's true.

Barkley is probably dancing on the season.

In all seriousness I kind of hope Sam keeps his job, I hate them stings that the newspapers do.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 27, 2016, 04:25:21 AM
What an idiot.

We've all know he was dodgy though.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on September 27, 2016, 04:31:10 AM
Love Big Sam.

Dodgy bastard.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blargins on September 27, 2016, 04:52:13 AM
Talking about this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/?WTmcid=tmgoff_soc_spf_fb&WT.mc_id=sf37015326

Classic. He's probably right though.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: efcforlife on September 27, 2016, 06:18:06 AM

Barkley is probably dancing on the season.

In all seriousness I kind of hope Sam keeps his job, I hate them stings that the newspapers do.

I was hoping he would lose his job..

Mainly because he's a shit football manager.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on September 27, 2016, 06:21:49 AM
I really hope he doesn't get sacked.

I couldn't hack an international tournament under:

(http://b.smimg.net/14/35/300x225/steve-bruce-hull-city.jpg)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on September 27, 2016, 02:04:57 PM
I really hope he doesn't get sacked.

I couldn't hack an international tournament under:

(http://b.smimg.net/14/35/300x225/steve-bruce-hull-city.jpg)
...and therein lies the problem...

...a serious lack of a truly viable alternative.

Allardyce may well be as bent as a nine dollar bill, but sadly he's all that we currently have.

Let's not forget that there were people calling for Harry Redknapp to get the England gig not so long ago. Now there's a fucking crook!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Redartin on September 27, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Looks like someone in the Telegraph didn't like Big Sam getting the England job and thought, this guy is too easy to bring down. Fuck a few whiskers into him and let the big fat arrogant shit brag about what he can and can't do, simple. And being the said fat arrogant shit he couldn't help himself.

...and therein lies the problem...

...a serious lack of a truly viable alternative.


I disagree, Bobby Brown Boots now has "International Manager" on his CV. Ideal candidate  lolol
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on September 27, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
I disagree, Bobby Brown Boots now has "International Manager" on his CV. Ideal candidate  lolol
As an Irishman, I'm sure you'd love to see Martinez get the England job and completely destroy any chance that England may have of even qualifying for major tournaments for the forseeable.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on September 27, 2016, 03:39:53 PM
Talking about this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/exclusive-investigation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/?WTmcid=tmgoff_soc_spf_fb&WT.mc_id=sf37015326

Classic. He's probably right though.

There's got to be some Oumar Niasse shaped revelations as a part of this investigation.  Surely?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 27, 2016, 05:28:02 PM
I wonder if The Times were willing to accept a bribe from allerdyce to not disclose the story?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 27, 2016, 05:29:54 PM
A load of part time Poirot's on twitter saying he has been summoned to wembley to be sacked

Pardew tho?
Wow
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Optimistic Blue on September 27, 2016, 06:08:11 PM
Enter Pardiola
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDMlVquZI1axqQ8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blargins on September 27, 2016, 06:28:55 PM
It won't make any difference if he is sacked. England are the same whoever's manager.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
1/2 to be sacked

Steve Bruce 3/1 fav to take over

Grim
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 27, 2016, 07:07:56 PM
1/2 to be sacked

Steve Bruce 3/1 fav to take over

Grim

Eddie Howe possibly? Be a bit sly on Bournemouth, but I'd like to see a bright, young Englishman given the chance.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 27, 2016, 07:13:02 PM
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 27, 2016, 07:14:37 PM
Has he actually done anything wrong?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 27, 2016, 07:23:04 PM
Has he actually done anything wrong?

By agreeing to the deal, yes.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 27, 2016, 07:25:33 PM
By agreeing to the deal, yes.

Didnt he say he'd have to clear everything through the FA before agreeing any deals?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2016, 07:33:34 PM
Didnt he say he'd have to clear everything through the FA before agreeing any deals?

Yep, but he slagged the FA off over Wembley, made fun over someone with a speech impediment and a member of the Royal Family

All pretty harmless in my opinion, but great offence will of been taken by a lot of people so they have no choice but to sack him really.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 27, 2016, 07:36:38 PM
Didnt he say he'd have to clear everything through the FA before agreeing any deals?

I would've loved to see him walk in the FA offices and say "Hey lads, I've landed a lucrative non-job advising a group of shadowy businessmen on how to circumvent your rules, is that okay with you?"
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 27, 2016, 07:38:14 PM
Didnt he say he'd have to clear everything through the FA before agreeing any deals?

I thought the bit about clearing it with the FA was to do with speaking at some event in Asia

The bit about assisting the "businessmen" to get round FIFA rules on 3rd party ownership goes FA's mandate on integrity so they'll have to sack him for that alone I should imagine
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 27, 2016, 08:00:39 PM
He'll be sacked. Very little doubt about it. Not because the FA wish to sack him (they know they don't have a reasonable alternative they could hope to pay 3m a year now)

But because the written press won't stop until he is sacked and because SSN will run enough polls/find a couple of people suitably appalled by his behaviour hanging around on the streets of Kidderminster.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on September 27, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
I quite like Allardyce as a bloke but he deserves to be sacked for his stupidity. He's really pissed on the chips and shot himself in the foot at the same time - which isn't easy.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2016, 08:10:37 PM
Couldn't make this up, job's on the line after a month or 2 because of an undercover sting lolol

Wish I was arsed about that National team enough to give a single solitary shite about what happens... But I'm not.

Sam is as dodgy as 'Arry, this should come as no surprise to anyone. Harsh on him if he does get the boot though IMO.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 27, 2016, 08:11:21 PM
There's a suggestion that more things will come out in the Telegraph during the week (all of which has been made available to the FA by now), so it might be even more damning that it already is.

I don't think it is a media witchhunt, because I've seen articles on both sides, some saying it's irredeemable and others saying it's a silly mistake but not sackable.

Ultimately, he's in the most prestigious job in English football, extremely highly paid and he's been recorded advising people how to circumnavigate the rules of his employer. There will be things in his contract about upholding and representing the core values of the organisation, as there always are. So it seems that they have enough to sack him, if they choose to.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 27, 2016, 08:16:47 PM
I don't think they will want to sack him despite all this. They probably can't be assed going through the recruitment phase again. Plus whoever they appointed would be paraded as the person that the fa didn't want two months ago. As blarg said though - it's all irrelevant as England will very likely be the same anyway.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2016, 08:19:37 PM
He'll be sacked. Very little doubt about it. Not because the FA wish to sack him (they know they don't have a reasonable alternative they could hope to pay 3m a year now)

But because the written press won't stop until he is sacked and because SSN will run enough polls/find a couple of people suitably appalled by his behaviour hanging around on the streets of Kidderminster.

They will track down a random on the streets with same speech impediment as Woy, and he will voice his disgust the blatant discwrimination towawds the "w" people awound the wowld
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on September 27, 2016, 09:38:02 PM
His goose is cooked, can't see him getting past this.

The only thing that goes in his favour is the cost of getting rid of him, as it's doubtful this sort of thing would be covered in termination of contract, but it was only a 2 year deal.

Had a few quid on Steve Bruce last time round and fairly confident he'll get the job now.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
More has come out now, he had a go at HMRC as well, saying they're corrupt, tell us something we don't already know eh Sam
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on September 27, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
Removed

'kinell Clanger, no one needs a Tony Pulis gif that big!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bluestevie on September 27, 2016, 10:29:35 PM
Probably deserves the sack for his comments but once again the media in this country has dug a knife in the national team like they have done for the past 20 years be it Hoddle (witchhunt over his bizarre beliefs that had zero to do with football), Keegan (pretty much forced his hand to resign after the Germany defeat followed the Euro 2000 exit), Eriksson (splashing his personal business all over the shop for his whole tenure), Capello (undermined his reign prompting the resignation on the eve of Euro 2012) and Hodgson (never got given much of a chance by them, mostly his own doing with tactics though)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2016, 10:51:49 PM
To be fair to the media, Hoddle had to go after what he said.

Fucking mug.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: irishtoffee on September 28, 2016, 12:51:44 AM
I've never seen a national media as bad as the English ones. These entrapment situations are a disgrace I think. It's like they want England to fail so they can sell more papers. Didn't they do a sting on eriksen too with the fake sheik. They have no national pride. Wasn't there a John terry story broke the week of a big game too? Maybe about his dad selling drugs or something? I actually think the premier league managers should boycott journalists who try to setup managers
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 28, 2016, 01:19:45 AM
Seems he's resigned
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blargins on September 28, 2016, 01:21:09 AM
And don't forget Mr Venables too.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 28, 2016, 01:21:30 AM
He's been sacked. They might say mutual consent or resignation but it's a sacking effectively.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 28, 2016, 01:30:04 AM
Ah, the good ol' days, eh Sam lad....


The unanimous choice of The FA’s three-man selection panel, comprising FA chief executive Martin Glenn, technical director Dan Ashworth and acting chairman David Gill, Allardyce arrives with a proven track record of getting the best results out of the teams he has managed and a strong reputation as a forward-thinker with progressive ideas …
Allardyce said: “I am extremely honoured to be appointed England manager especially as it is no secret that this is the role I have always wanted. For me, it is absolutely the best job in English football.
“I will do everything I can to help England do well and give our nation the success our fans deserve. Above all, we have to make the people and the whole country proud.”
Glenn said: “Sam Allardyce is the right man for the England job. His excellent managerial credentials, including his ability to realise the potential of players and teams, develop a strong team ethos and embrace modern methods that enhance performance, made him the outstanding choice …
“Dan Ashworth, David Gill and I have carried out a thorough process in the last three weeks and ultimately we could not look beyond Sam as the ideal candidate.”

Hilarious.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 28, 2016, 01:31:28 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/27/sam-allardyce-loses-job-as-england-manager-after-telegraph-inves/

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Sam Allardyce has lost his job as England manager after an exclusive investigation by The Telegraph revealed he used his position to negotiate a £400,000 deal to offer advice to businessmen on how to get around Football Association rules on player transfers.

Sam Allardyce tried to make as much money as possible as England manager – before his first match.

He had not yet taken charge of his first international match, or even his first training session, but already another pressing matter was on Sam Allardyce’s agenda: how to make as much money as possible from his new status as England manager.

The job comes with a salary of £3 million per year, plus bonuses, but as Allardyce sat down to a meeting in a May Fair hotel he was eager to explore ways of earning even more.

On the table was an offer for Allardyce to fly to Singapore and Hong Kong four times a year to address investors in a Far East firm that wanted to buy football players. Allardyce, 61, was unperturbed by the fact that the firm – in reality a fictitious company whose representatives were undercover Telegraph reporters – was proposing third party ownership of players, in contravention of Football Association and Fifa rules.

During the meeting he remarked that Sir Alex Ferguson gets “four hundred, five hundred grand a pop” for speaking engagements, while Robbie Williams got “£1.6 million for a wedding. Just singing”.

Less than 20 minutes into the meeting with total strangers, Allardyce had agreed, in principle, to a £400,000-a-year deal to represent a company he had never heard of. The England manager insisted he would deliver “value for money” in helping to attract investors, boasting of his popularity in the Orient.

Over the course of two meetings, lasting four hours in total, Allardyce told the fictitious businessmen that it was “not a problem” to bypass the rules introduced by his employers in 2008.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bally on September 28, 2016, 01:37:41 AM
He's quit according to reports
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on September 28, 2016, 01:38:41 AM
Put the sausage rolls down Brucey, the FA will be ringing you soon
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blargins on September 28, 2016, 01:40:26 AM
England really needs a manager to make them great again.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 28, 2016, 01:41:34 AM
Seriously tho,imagine trying to take international football seriously with Steve Bruce as your mamager
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 28, 2016, 01:41:58 AM
lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol

Couldn't make it up. Thank fuck Bobby got the Belgium job!!!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 28, 2016, 01:46:28 AM
Only Harry can get these boys to do a job and rescue the FA's morality crusade now at the same time....
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 01:50:07 AM
For a man into stats, that's a great 100% record to be fair
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: irishtoffee on September 28, 2016, 02:07:54 AM
Disappointed for him. Sneaky media bastards
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 28, 2016, 02:08:31 AM
When one door closes, another opens.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37489071
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Craig_1878 on September 28, 2016, 02:10:54 AM
What an absolute cretin lolol ..I think Pulis would be the closest like for like replacement but surely if the FA want somebody half decent then you have to look abroad - even then I doubt there's many decent foreign manager's who'd be interested in the job.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 28, 2016, 02:13:00 AM
Disappointed for him. Sneaky media bastards

Yes and no.

AFAIK this was just part of a wider investigation into corruption in British football, which is a worthy cause. (Investigating it, not the corruption.)

And while you may claim the way he was caught was unfair, but let's remember that no-one forced him to be a corrupt cunt. This wasn't like the Eriksson case, who genuinely didn't do anything underhanded, he was just brash and boastful.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: velimski on September 28, 2016, 02:14:53 AM
When one door closes, another opens.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37489071

Bit of an odd ball Pearson, isn't he!?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: sirblue57 on September 28, 2016, 02:15:34 AM
lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol

Couldn't make it up. Thank fuck Bobby got the Belgium job!!!

just fuck off, that's tempting fate ya git.    :headbang:

I can just see Lukaku and Mirallas tweeking his fucking CV and bigging the cunt up. :headbang:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 28, 2016, 02:16:08 AM
Bit of an odd ball Pearson, isn't he!?

The perfect manager to represent England.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: april on September 28, 2016, 02:20:32 AM
And don't forget Mr Venables too.
Yes, very untenable.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 02:23:12 AM
Allardyce wasn't caught out here, let's get that clear. He probably regrets the episode but the problem with him and football generally is that these sorts of attitudes prevail, not that they were exposed.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Zoolander on September 28, 2016, 02:37:16 AM
They should look at Eddie Howe imo - new start - Young and talented manager.
Either that or wait until September and look at Wenger.
Bruce, Pardew etc can all get to absolute fuck
Title: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: efcforlife on September 28, 2016, 02:58:06 AM
They should look at Eddie Howe imo - new start - Young and talented manager.
Either that or wait until September and look at Wenger.
Bruce, Pardew etc can all get to absolute fuck

It's too soon for Howe and we don't have a pool of players to play the Wenger way in my opinion.

Has to be Pullis or Southgate for me.

Unsworth?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 28, 2016, 03:07:56 AM
They should look at Eddie Howe imo - new start - Young and talented manager.
Either that or wait until September and look at Wenger.
Bruce, Pardew etc can all get to absolute fuck

I was thinking that Howe would be good appointment too.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 03:11:25 AM
I like Howe but don't want to see England ruin him. Has to be southgate. He could even bring back Gary Neville.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on September 28, 2016, 03:22:50 AM
Southgate in for the next 4 games according to the Telegraph
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Optimistic Blue on September 28, 2016, 03:23:58 AM
Cheeky bit of Telegraph hypocrisy here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/15/england-and-wales-euro-2016-pre-match-press-conferences-live/

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What have we learned?
Right, Woy and Wayne have spoken and largely concluded that none of the pre-match chatter will make any difference. That's a shame given how much time and effort we've put into covering it.

Ah well, we may as well carry on relentlessly previewing the match until kick-off at 2pm tomorrow. 
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 04:04:35 AM
Now apparently there are revelations about 8 present or former premier league managers being involved in bungs.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 28, 2016, 04:34:56 AM
Can't we just sack off the whole England thing and not bother with an international team any more?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: efcforlife on September 28, 2016, 04:36:25 AM

Now apparently there are revelations about 8 present or former premier league managers being involved in bungs.

Involved in bungs? Or approached as part of the sting?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cassius on September 28, 2016, 04:42:10 AM
It's too soon for Howe and we don't have a pool of players to play the Wenger way in my opinion.

Has to be Pullis or Southgate for me.

Unsworth?

Agree with Wenger, but...

Too soon for Eddie Howe but ok for Southgate?

And Welshman Tony Pulis as England manager?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 28, 2016, 04:43:03 AM
Jesus. Gareth Southgate as manager. He's the very definition of a loser.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on September 28, 2016, 06:17:31 AM
Only just read the footage was from early august, so he'd only been in the job about 2 weeks.  :D

Here's the details on the PL managers implicated.

Manager 1

Ex-Premier League manager allegedly liked “bungs” in cash or deposited in a Swiss bank account. Pagliara said: “I can call [X] now and all it is with [X] is 'How much, Pino? And will it be the same Swiss bank account?’”

Manager 2

Ex-top flight manager has had “more backhanders than Wimbledon”. Pagliara said: “This is what I hate... the guy that used to need the money but he’s had so much now that all of a sudden he’s whiter than white.”

Manager 3

After managing several British clubs, he was allegedly fired by one for having “his fingers in the till”. Pagliara said he would get involved if “you understand that when we do deals I have to have a carrier bag with some cash”.

Manager 4

Pagliara said of this boss with Premier League experience: “We know him very, very well. We do a transfer, [X] has winked at us and said 'Yeah, I want the player. Is there a little coffee for me, Pino?’ Yeah, course there is.”

Manager 5

Ex-Premier League manager who, said Pagliara, would call him and say “here’s the number”, and give him details of a Swiss account. He said: “It was always numbered accounts.”

Manager 6

A former player who now manages, he allegedly likes extra money to secure deals because he is not on a big salary at his club. Pagliara said: “[X] takes a few [inaudible] because he’s not being paid big money.”

Manager 7

Ex-Premier League manager is another “we can put on the payroll”. If a player was transferred for £10m, “we’ll turn round to [X] and say, listen, if you take this player we’ll look after you. OK? OK, boom.”

Manager 8

Agent Dax Price said this long-serving manager would pick three trusted players and tell them he was paying them an extra £8,000 per month, on condition that they paid him £4,000 per month each.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 28, 2016, 06:28:48 AM
He had a good run.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 28, 2016, 06:34:30 AM
Only just read the footage was from early august, so he'd only been in the job about 2 weeks.  :D

Here's the details on the PL managers implicated.

Manager 1

Ex-Premier League manager allegedly liked “bungs” in cash or deposited in a Swiss bank account. Pagliara said: “I can call [X] now and all it is with [X] is 'How much, Pino? And will it be the same Swiss bank account?’”

Manager 2

Ex-top flight manager has had “more backhanders than Wimbledon”. Pagliara said: “This is what I hate... the guy that used to need the money but he’s had so much now that all of a sudden he’s whiter than white.”

Manager 3

After managing several British clubs, he was allegedly fired by one for having “his fingers in the till”. Pagliara said he would get involved if “you understand that when we do deals I have to have a carrier bag with some cash”.

Manager 4

Pagliara said of this boss with Premier League experience: “We know him very, very well. We do a transfer, [X] has winked at us and said 'Yeah, I want the player. Is there a little coffee for me, Pino?’ Yeah, course there is.”

Manager 5

Ex-Premier League manager who, said Pagliara, would call him and say “here’s the number”, and give him details of a Swiss account. He said: “It was always numbered accounts.”

Manager 6

A former player who now manages, he allegedly likes extra money to secure deals because he is not on a big salary at his club. Pagliara said: “[X] takes a few [inaudible] because he’s not being paid big money.”

Manager 7

Ex-Premier League manager is another “we can put on the payroll”. If a player was transferred for £10m, “we’ll turn round to [X] and say, listen, if you take this player we’ll look after you. OK? OK, boom.”

Manager 8

Agent Dax Price said this long-serving manager would pick three trusted players and tell them he was paying them an extra £8,000 per month, on condition that they paid him £4,000 per month each.


It's pretty shocking all that like.

I can defo see Harry Rednapp getting called out in this, maybe Sven too. Mark Hughes always seems like a dodgy bastard too.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 28, 2016, 06:37:44 AM
So Nigel Pearson has RSVP'd to the invites.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 28, 2016, 07:01:16 AM
Watch out for Tony Pulis to be mentioned I reckon
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Confucius on September 28, 2016, 07:35:00 AM
it will be all lesser light managers. Smaller teams etc. if Sam was the biggest fish to fry the it won't be on of the bigger clubs. Maybe Dalglish. martinez for the Niasse deal too
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on September 28, 2016, 07:41:22 AM
Allardyce is obviously 1 of the managers, the thing about Ravel Morrison being pressured to change agent is interesting. In the article, it also says Manager 2 is known as a 'wheeler dealer', you'd suspect he's also got a dog called Rosie.

Think the situation with Pearson at Derby and the owners sudden change of heart would lead some to assume.

Wonder if old whisky nose has been implicated...
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 28, 2016, 01:20:14 PM
Watch out for Tony Pulis to be mentioned I reckon

Manager 8.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 28, 2016, 02:43:41 PM
Imagine Pardew though...
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Escla on September 28, 2016, 02:55:39 PM
Disappointed for him. Sneaky media bastards

No sympathy for a greedy bastard on £3 million a year who wants to prostitute himself for another 400k,
not as though he was on minimum wage was it.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cassius on September 28, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
Now I'm not one to rake mud, however...

Nigel Adkins was sacked by Southampton for having his hand in the till, and that's also why Malky Mackay was sacked by Cardiff, so they're two for starters.

And one of them has got to be Redknapp who would sign trusted players for all the different clubs he moved too - didn't he sign Nico Kranjcar three times?

Having said all of that, almost every industry that I've worked in has involved kickbacks being given and taken. Perhaps not to the same extent, or size, as football, but it's all relative. Not that it makes it okay, either.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 28, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
For a man into stats, that's a great 100% record to be fair

Sam Allardyce was in charge of a winning England team for a grand total of 1 second  lolol
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on September 28, 2016, 04:50:51 PM
All this shite about other managers saying they want carrier bags full of cash is total horse shit.

If they have the evidence then they should be named. Until then, fuck off.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: hill135 on September 28, 2016, 08:00:09 PM
When will their expose be published? On the drip stylee?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 08:10:40 PM

When will their expose be published? On the drip stylee?

Through the week apparently. I love it. It's like having an advent calendar.
Title: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 28, 2016, 08:13:59 PM
What is the matter with allardyce?  Reading his quotes today it is clear that he STILL doesn't get it. It's not that you got caught, it's that youre a money grabbing acromegalic who abused your position.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 28, 2016, 08:47:12 PM
Through the week apparently. I love it. It's like having an advent calendar.

On the twelfth day of Christmas the Telegraph gave to me
Twelve resignations,
Eleven mutual consents,
Ten dodgy agents...
(you fill in the rest)
...aaaand Steve Bruce as national coach.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 28, 2016, 08:49:01 PM
Martinez has been named as a business partner of Big Sam.

Nothing dodgy but we wouldn't be surprised if Martinez was named in this, would we?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 28, 2016, 08:58:26 PM
Martinez has been named as a business partner of Big Sam.

Nothing dodgy but we wouldn't be surprised if Martinez was named in this, would we?

Moyes can't be far behind, though he probably wouldn't have gone so far as to actually do a Niasse.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shropshire Blue on September 28, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
What is the matter with allardyce?  Reading his quotes today it is clear that he STILL doesn't get it. It's not that you got caught, it's that youre a money grabbing acromegalic who abused your position.
Acromegalic? ??? I had to look that up!!!
Are you sure you don't mean neanderthal?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 29, 2016, 12:06:06 AM
Martinez has been named as a business partner of Big Sam.

Nothing dodgy but we wouldn't be surprised if Martinez was named in this, would we?

Heard Rooney, Hart, and a few other England players are partners with Allardyce in a hotel ownership in Newcastle. Martinez must be involved in marketing if so. Magnificent building on phenomenal grounds surrounded by a beautiful city for the incredible low cost of....etc etc.

Parp.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: sirblue57 on September 29, 2016, 12:16:42 AM
so if they are looking for a new manager, who is not corrupt/bent/would sell his own mother type.....who are we left with?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 29, 2016, 12:29:48 AM
so if they are looking for a new manager, who is not corrupt/bent/would sell his own mother type.....who are we left with?

Roy Hodgson.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 29, 2016, 12:36:00 AM
Considering he's supposed to be a money grabbing bastard on the take for years Big Sams house looks a very modest place on a normal road.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on September 29, 2016, 12:45:10 AM
Considering he's supposed to be a money grabbing bastard on the take for years Big Sams house looks a very modest place on a normal road.
.............I thought that too ,it looks like Brookside. But he's got the big villa in Spain to retire to and plenty of time to contemplate his mistakes. Oh well.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: sirblue57 on September 29, 2016, 01:23:46 AM
Roy Hodgson.

not funny........I mean, they wouldn't....couldn't....could they?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 29, 2016, 01:48:35 AM
not funny........I mean, they wouldn't....couldn't....could they?

Never know with the sweet FA mate. This is a good read regards it all.........https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/sep/28/england-manager-sam-allardyce-greed-fa
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 29, 2016, 02:20:13 AM
https://twitter.com/wee_kezza/status/781130319739097088
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 29, 2016, 03:56:39 AM
Hasselbaink of QPR
Cellino of Leeds
Wright of Barnsley

Latest names set to be revealed

Not that shocked, or arsed to be honest!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 29, 2016, 04:10:39 AM
Hasselbaink of QPR
Cellino of Leeds
Wright of Barnsley

Latest names set to be revealed

Not that shocked, or arsed to be honest!

Out of those three, Cellino passed the FA's ultra-rigorous fit and proper person test. At the second attempt, granted, but still.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 29, 2016, 04:12:45 AM
I don't even know who Wright is
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 29, 2016, 04:16:30 AM
I don't even know who Wright is

Oh neither do I. He doesn't have enough wow factor for me to get excited about the scandal!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 29, 2016, 04:18:29 AM
I don't even know who Wright is

It's probably too late to bother to learn it now. :)

He's just been taped taking an actual envelope stuffed full of actual £20 notes. How fucking stupid can you get?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 29, 2016, 04:50:44 AM
I'm wanting bigger names than that.

Bet they bottle it and don't name the premier league ones.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 29, 2016, 05:33:36 AM
I'm wanting bigger names than that.

Bet they bottle it and don't name the premier league ones.

They'll name everyone they have video evidence of.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Optimistic Blue on September 29, 2016, 05:36:56 AM
Came into this thread and for a second thought those were the latest names in for the England job!?!?!?

Just watched the Hasselbaink video thought for a minute he was trying to get some sex off the bird offering him the money. If he did hopefully there will be a tape x
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on September 29, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
Gareth Southgate couldn't have been given a better opportunity here in the interim capacity. He distanced himself from the full time job when it first came around, which scored him points as nobody thought he was right or ready BUT now he looks good for stepping up to take control when England are at a very low ebb...and he pretty much has a free pass in the four games he's been given because nobody expects all that much.

IF he wins those four, which given the opposition he should and because as we know the pool of candidates is pretty lacklustre he will probably end up with the job by default.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Escla on September 29, 2016, 12:11:42 PM
I'm wanting bigger names than that.

Bet they bottle it and don't name the premier league ones.

So who took a bung to sign Niasse ? Bobby ?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 29, 2016, 11:05:08 PM
Ralf Rangnick to be interviewed for the England job.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on September 30, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
Southgate says Rooney still the captain.

Already proving to be England manager material after all.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Escla on September 30, 2016, 01:47:13 PM
Ralf Rangnick to be interviewed for the England job.

And he should take it, it's the best gig in town, sign a contract, play four or five games, get fired, pick up 3 or four million after 12 months , go off and get another job, mad !
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 30, 2016, 02:59:06 PM
Apparently this is the list that's knocking around.

https://twitter.com/mmmichaelbarry/status/781604790996463616
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on September 30, 2016, 03:08:17 PM
Hasn't Eric Black been suspended from Southampton?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on September 30, 2016, 03:24:37 PM
Apparently this is the list that's knocking around.

https://twitter.com/mmmichaelbarry/status/781604790996463616

Not surprised by any of those.

Been rumours about Pulis for a while now.

Interesting to see they're all British. There does seem to be a bung culture amongst the British managers.

Ohhh but they never get a chance apparently
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: GLewis on September 30, 2016, 03:28:18 PM


Ohhh but they never get a chance apparently

That's why they need to take the bungs :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 30, 2016, 03:32:52 PM
Interesting to see they're all British. There does seem to be a bung culture amongst the British managers.

Ohhh but they never get a chance apparently

At least they don't dive. Diving is a filthy foreign habit.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 30, 2016, 03:34:49 PM
To be fair though, since the Telegraph used British agents as bait, it's no surprise that mostly British managers were caught. Had they got Raiola to co-operate, you would've seen a lot more nations represented.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 30, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
Not to be all sceptical about this but set to expose what? JFH was caught on camera talking about being paid to go and talk in Asia, so what, since whens that been illegal or wrong??

All they've got is seemingly an ex-agent or two who say they've sorted some bungs out for people. No evidence, just their word that it happened. A football agent.... not the most reliable source ever.

A few assistant managers of lower league teams get fired for taking some cash which was actually caught on camera will about the pinnacle of it all.

Even when 'Arry's dogs account in Monaco got rumbled, what happened to him? Nothing.

Seems the usual media over-blowing something fairly minor in order to shift some papers.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on September 30, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
Not to be all sceptical about this but set to expose what? JFH was caught on camera talking about being paid to go and talk in Asia, so what, since whens that been illegal or wrong??

And saying he'll sign players in return. The talk is obviously just a disguise for the payment, and everyone round the table was aware of that.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on September 30, 2016, 05:15:27 PM
Is it wrong that I can't wait for them to be exposed (assuming that list is true?).

So tired of pundits and ex-players talking about how great all these shite British manager are, and 'what a great fella Tony Pulis is' and all that bollocks.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on September 30, 2016, 05:27:52 PM
It's the culture of football in this country. It's a working man's sport (or it still reflects that it once was). Perpetuated by the media as a game for white van men and ladies banter. None of our players go abroad, most players and managers can't string two words together. Whilst foreigners come here and think tactically and speak multiple languages. But of course we'll be ok if we 'stick to what we know' and try not to.play like Spain or Germany. There's this huge disconnect and massive sense of denial in this country over football. It really needs building from the bottom again.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 30, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
Is it wrong that I can't wait for them to be exposed (assuming that list is true?).

So tired of pundits and ex-players talking about how great all these shite British manager are, and 'what a great fella Tony Pulis is' and all that bollocks.

especially if it snares our two most cuntworthy cunts (if pre-match post "Like"s are any indication)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: stirlingblue on September 30, 2016, 07:19:44 PM
Apparently this is the list that's knocking around.

https://twitter.com/mmmichaelbarry/status/781604790996463616

I'd be surprised if that list is true.

If that was true, they'd be publishing at least a few of the big dogs early rather than going after some nobody coach at Southampton, it would sell more papers.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on September 30, 2016, 07:35:07 PM
I'd be surprised if that list is true.

If that was true, they'd be publishing at least a few of the big dogs early rather than going after some nobody coach at Southampton, it would sell more papers.

There's a few things that don't add up. Like it would need to be at least an 18 months to a 2 year investigation to have got Redknapp doing something and when has Giggs ever been in a position of power to influence transfers?

I imagine all they've got is gossip and hearsay off these agents and anyone who's been implicated will have an injunction to kill the story and it'll never come out. Like you say if there's hard evidence you'd be reading about it well before the likes of Black and Hasselbaink.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2016, 12:09:01 AM
Shockingly Pino Pagliara is about to tell the BBC news how he made all of this up.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2016, 12:12:33 AM
Who's going to be today's winner?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on October 03, 2016, 03:16:42 AM
Southgate brings Glen Johnson back in from the cold. We are really bad aren't we?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 03, 2016, 03:32:50 AM
Jesse fucking lingaard and Glen Johnson

Laughable
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on October 03, 2016, 03:49:01 AM
Jesse fucking lingaard and Glen Johnson

Laughable

With Lingard you can say that he called him up to see what he's like or as encouragement for a young player. But Johnson?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 03, 2016, 04:33:21 AM
Lallana out, lingaard in

If Ross Barkley needed a wake up call... Ah fuck it, he may as well give in now
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on October 03, 2016, 05:41:01 AM
How can he drop lallana?

Is he injured?

Fucking Chamberlain in as well?

He really doesn't want the job does he.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on October 03, 2016, 05:45:45 AM
How can he drop lallana?

Is he injured?

Fucking Chamberlain in as well?

He really doesn't want the job does he.

Think Klopp said yesterday that Lallana wouldn't be available.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 06, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
Shockingly Pino Pagliara is about to tell the BBC news how he made all of this up.

good to see the whole exposure of massive ground-breaking corruption in English football amounted to a random from Barnsley... top journalistic work as usual
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on October 06, 2016, 09:36:50 PM
good to see the whole exposure of massive ground-breaking corruption in English football amounted to a random from Barnsley... top journalistic work as usual

Died on the vine really didn't it.

Even that Eric Black seems to have got out of it somehow.


Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on October 08, 2016, 07:14:24 AM
Let's hope that the lads can find it within themselves to be 'brave' against Malta.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on October 08, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
Let's hope that the lads can find it within themselves to be 'brave' against Malta.

I haaaaate that somehow it's become the accepted narrative that the England players are scared, can't take the pressure of playing for the national side, etc etc. When most of them play bigger games against better teams most weeks.

Perhaps the players just aren't that special, and we've had a succession of poor managers that haven't helped either. Can't it be that simple?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on October 09, 2016, 12:16:59 AM
Just look at us majestically strolling around, we're making Malta look like a really shit team.

Give Southgate a 5 year contract.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ridge on October 09, 2016, 12:23:38 AM
It's become a whole cliche excuse narrative, too much pressure, we're building, improving.

No one expects good things with current setup, half heartedly supporting a few coaches without productive experience in management.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 10, 2016, 10:50:55 PM
Rooney dropped for the Slovenia game

Could be the beginning of the end for him now I think

Frozen out by club and country

He definitely looks like he's lost something (and not just his hair)

Doesn't look like he's got the same fire inside him anymore. He never looks like he's running at full speed anymore.

It wasn't meant to end like this Wayne!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on October 10, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
The MLS beckons.

It's beyond me why he thinks he is a capable midfielder.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on October 11, 2016, 12:49:37 AM
JORDAN HENDERSON named England Captain, with Rooney dropping to the bench.

F me.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on October 11, 2016, 12:53:46 AM
It seems like the media have turned on him completely now and there's no going back.

It's odd how they've handled Rooneys declining influence compared to how they treated Gerrard who was allowed to go on at least a season to long unchallenged and almost bullet proof right to his last game against Costa Rica where he was a massive liability but escaped any criticism.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on October 11, 2016, 01:29:31 AM
They'd still have Gerrard back
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on October 11, 2016, 01:43:42 AM
JORDAN HENDERSON named England Captain, with Rooney dropping to the bench.

F me.
............' Hendo ' as the RS call him , is the new Gerrard FFS.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on October 11, 2016, 01:57:02 AM
............' Hendo ' as the RS call him , is the new Gerrard FFS.

Coincidentally "Hendo" is also the name of the ancient Japanese samurai martial art of looking tough.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: efcforlife on October 11, 2016, 03:23:13 AM
Henderson captaining England proves just how shit England really are.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 11, 2016, 08:55:17 PM
Hendo captain. Rooney. Colleen all over twitter. England.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Everton Mint on October 11, 2016, 10:39:59 PM
Kind of hope England get beat tonight without Rooney.

Not saying he's what he was, but his apps and goals record deserves respect, not morons booing him
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 12, 2016, 12:48:28 AM
Kind of hope England get beat tonight without Rooney.

Not saying he's what he was, but his apps and goals record deserves respect, not morons booing him

It merits him respect. Not a guaranteed starting place.

England are much better without him as a striker.

I'm in the minority I know, but I think he's a good option in midfield.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Everton Mint on October 12, 2016, 12:55:36 AM
I dont mind him in midfield. He can still get around the pitch and pick a foward pass better than most.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ari on October 12, 2016, 03:28:03 AM
Southgate OUT!  This England team is horrible and it is appalling that no one seems to have learned ANYTHING from the loss to Iceland in the summer. 

I would let Hart, Cahill, Rose, Walker, Lingard, Walcott out of the team.  There must be better options than that!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 12, 2016, 03:31:55 AM
Southgate OUT!  This England team is horrible and it is appalling that no one seems to have learned ANYTHING from the loss to Iceland in the summer. 

I would let Hart, Cahill, Rose, Walker, Lingard, Walcott out of the team.  There must be better options than that!

Hart has been brilliant tonight
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ari on October 12, 2016, 03:34:02 AM
And now the commentators are at it too... they are actually defending Cahill for his horrendous challenge wich gave him the yellow card.  They (commentators) are saying that ten years ago that would have been a legitimate challenge.  Open your eyes English people wether you are commentators or at the FA board or Southgate.  This team is horrible.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 12, 2016, 03:47:19 AM
Saved by Hart. Time for a re-shuffle.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 12, 2016, 03:48:47 AM
And now the commentators are at it too... they are actually defending Cahill for his horrendous challenge wich gave him the yellow card.  They (commentators) are saying that ten years ago that would have been a legitimate challenge.  Open your eyes English people wether you are commentators or at the FA board or Southgate.  This team is horrible.

Ok Ari, you beat us in the euro's we get that. Stop gloating now ok!!

Take care!! You cunt!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ari on October 12, 2016, 04:00:29 AM
Ok Ari, you beat us in the euro's we get that. Stop gloating now ok!!

Take care!! You cunt!

I'm not gloating man.  I am sorry to see that you take my comments that way.  It was NOT my meaning at all.  The thing is i have been an England fan for many years and I can´t help but to see how bad this team is at the moment.  You must agree with me on that?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 12, 2016, 04:12:08 AM
I'm not gloating man.  I am sorry to see that you take my comments that way.  It was NOT my meaning at all.  The thing is i have been an England fan for many years and I can´t help but to see how bad this team is at the moment.  You must agree with me on that?

Awwww Ari. I wasn't being mean to you my friend. I was making a light hearted joke which was trying to make the point that I agree with everything you said.

Ari, you could call my mum a slag and I'd agree with you!! I love you!!

Have you been taking care??😊
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 12, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
had a go at this to change the squad/starting XI, but was depressingly difficult to put together a decent team.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37632101

picked two different elevens to get a squad of 22:

http://bbc.in/2dVONgS

&

http://bbc.in/2dRaKyw
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 15, 2016, 10:34:27 PM
Going to get hammered tonight i recon...
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2016, 10:37:22 PM
Going to get hammered tonight i recon...

Sturridge, Lallana, Henderson captain.

Let's hope so  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on November 16, 2016, 01:50:27 AM
Tough one this.  One part of me thinks we'll get hammered.  The other part thinks we will pay off the Spanish to make Southgate look good.  Either way it doesn't reflect well on the F.A.

Just seen the team.  God we've got some crap players.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 16, 2016, 04:56:52 AM
played like Mannequin's in that last 10 mins
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ball8y on November 18, 2016, 12:04:48 AM
England team selection is a case of "put up your hand if you are English" - "right, you are in"
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 18, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
England players and managers are just not adaptable, we need almost three separate teams depending on the opposition/situation....

an attacking, technical team with lots of creativity to open up the lesser teams who just sit and defend for most of the game

fast, counter-attacking team against the better teams to exploit spaces when they press us back

and then an organised, well-drilled defensive side to protect a lead against the better teams

not just cram the same 11 players into any situation and hope for the best as they haven't got the ability/mentality to master the necessary situation
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on December 01, 2016, 01:31:24 AM
What seems like a long drawn out affair considering he was apparently the only candidate Southgate has finally been appointed England manager. A very beige appointment, England have gone from being a desirable job for top name managers to struggling to find anyone other than their U21 manager.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2016, 01:36:27 AM
Give us the World Cup now.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on December 01, 2016, 03:46:19 AM
No-one's even arsed
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on December 01, 2016, 03:52:00 AM
What seems like a long drawn out affair considering he was apparently the only candidate Southgate has finally been appointed England manager. A very beige appointment, England have gone from being a desirable job for top name managers to struggling to find anyone other than their U21 manager.

It's like you get home from the pub late at night, you're drunk and you're starving. You open the fridge, but there's only one piece of shrivelled cheese in there. You know you must eat and you know there's nowt else. How bad does the cheese have to look for you to still hesitate for about an hour before eating it?

That's exactly how bad Gareth Southgate is.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on December 01, 2016, 03:54:35 AM
I can't decide whether this is Olympic level straw-clutching or sarcasm from the Beeb.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38107985
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 01, 2016, 04:01:16 AM
I can't decide whether this is Olympic level straw-clutching or sarcasm from the Beeb.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38107985
It's sarcasm..... Right?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: pjk on December 01, 2016, 09:54:26 AM
The BBC article is beyond a joke. The appointment is ridiculous and Southgates track record as a manager is laughable. A quote from the BBC.

'Before becoming part of the international set-up, Southgate's only managerial experience was his three-year spell at Boro, who were relegated under him in 2009'. ???
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on December 01, 2016, 01:40:50 PM
At least the FA won't have to worry about anyone trying to poach the cunt. No fucker wants him because he's shite!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 01, 2016, 10:20:29 PM
Ricky Tomlinson is better.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on December 06, 2016, 11:31:06 PM
Sammy Lee down the job centre   ;D
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on December 06, 2016, 11:47:03 PM
Sammy Lee down the job centre   ;D

Not for long maybe I'm sure he was part of Koemans staff at Southampton.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on December 06, 2016, 11:56:57 PM
Not for long maybe I'm sure he was part of Koemans staff at Southampton.
..........maybe Koeman will put him on his Christmas tree
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on December 07, 2016, 03:08:40 AM
Not for long maybe I'm sure he was part of Koemans staff at Southampton.
If that little fat fucking gremlin is seen anywhere near the bench at Goodison, the calls for Koeman to be sacked will gather pace at an alarming rate.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Ross on December 07, 2016, 04:34:20 AM
If that little fat fucking gremlin is seen anywhere near the bench at Goodison, the calls for Koeman to be sacked will gather pace at an alarming rate.

He's a very successful coach and it does look like something's missing here I'm sure you agree.

Just wouldn't shock me to see him rock up now he's been binned by England.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on December 07, 2016, 01:55:44 PM
He's a very successful coach and it does look like something's missing here I'm sure you agree.

Just wouldn't shock me to see him rock up now he's been binned by England.
Regardless of his success as a coach, it's still Sammy Lee. It would be some feat for Koeman to make that little fat twat acceptable to Evertonians.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Alanvideo on December 07, 2016, 10:11:04 PM
Regardless of his success as a coach, it's still Sammy Lee. It would be some feat for Koeman to make that little fat twat acceptable to Evertonians.
...........The McAllister derby was on Sky Football Gold yesterday . Houlier ,Pinnochio and the little fat twat all jumping for joy. He can fuck right off  :wag:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on December 20, 2016, 12:18:27 PM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38294868

Hate this stuff. All this fast tracking and desperation to cling to ex players. There is no relationship between good players and managers so why push it?  Players need to have that hunger to manage. If they don't then they can get stuffed.

Scholars in particular is a bit of an odd ball.  Never wanted to to interviews, then becomes a TV pundit. Ran away from the England team and now England are going back to him cap in hand.

To me it all epitomises a complete strategy and systematic failure that they want to cover up with 'big names'.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 16, 2017, 07:59:47 PM
Defoe called up, deserves it.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 16, 2017, 08:01:00 PM
Luke Shaw and Jake Livermore and Phil Fucking Jones ffs
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 16, 2017, 11:28:22 PM
Some team that  :whistle:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on March 16, 2017, 11:41:24 PM
I know Baines hasn't been up to his usual standards but giving Luke Shaw a call up in front of him is pathetic, he's hardly played this season.

I wouldn't mind us taking a look at Shaw in the summer but he shouldn't be in the England squad.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: hill135 on March 17, 2017, 12:10:28 AM
James Ward Prowse lolol
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on March 17, 2017, 12:40:56 AM
Good.

I don't agree with some of the picks and I don't think Southgate is good enough but fair play to him picking his own squad.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on March 17, 2017, 12:50:00 AM
Good.

I don't agree with some of the picks and I don't think Southgate is good enough but fair play to him picking his own squad.

It's not like he's spoilt for choice but that's one grim fucking squad.
Title: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on March 17, 2017, 01:07:52 AM
How the frig does Luke Shaw get into that squad?!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on March 17, 2017, 01:35:47 AM
How the frig does Luke Shaw get into that squad?!

I honestly didn't know he'd made an appearance in the PL this season. Shows what playing for Man United can get you still, even when the Man United manager doesn't even seemingly rate him.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 17, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
Jake livermore tho

Really
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on March 17, 2017, 03:55:12 AM
What's the opposite of golden generation?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 17, 2017, 03:55:46 AM
What's the opposite of golden generation?
Rust ridden wankers
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: 74Blue on March 18, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Defoe called up, deserves it.
Whilst Defoe has been excellent & desrves his place based on form, he's also very much in the twilight of his career & is probably not going to be around for the next major tournament, never mind the one after. So why bring him back into the fold, when we should be knitting together the squad that will take us through the next World Cup, into the next European Championships & possibly even beyond. Ironically, this is probably the reason why Southgate has gone for Luke Shaw over Leighton Baines.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on March 18, 2017, 02:41:07 PM
Still think Gareth Barry should be getting picked.

Title: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on March 18, 2017, 02:41:07 PM
Yes he'll be 36 I think come the next tournament. Southgate makes out like it's to balance the squad but that's nonsense. There isn't anyone else to select right now.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: velimski on March 18, 2017, 05:47:44 PM
Whilst Defoe has been excellent & desrves his place based on form, he's also very much in the twilight of his career & is probably not going to be around for the next major tournament, never mind the one after. So why bring him back into the fold, when we should be knitting together the squad that will take us through the next World Cup, into the next European Championships & possibly even beyond. Ironically, this is probably the reason why Southgate has gone for Luke Shaw over Leighton Baines.

Next world cup is only 15 months away (he will be 35 by then). I'd imagine Defoe will still be playing in the premier league next season whether it's for Sunderland or somebody else. If he's still scoring goals I have no issue with him being picked for the world cup.

That said, I think the only reason he's made it into this squad is because Kane, Sturridge and Rooney are either injured or massively out of form.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on March 19, 2017, 04:25:28 AM
Glad Ross has been called up, but I don't want him playing.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jamokachi on March 20, 2017, 08:20:39 AM
Jake livermore tho

Really

Done well since he went to West Brom
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on March 23, 2017, 03:12:34 PM
http://www.football365.com/news/england-fans-why-the-banter-defence-doesnt-work

Decent article here.  I used to go to Wembley following England, and have travelled abroad with them, but as per the article the breed of fan changed massively in the years following the turn of the century and the new Wembley opening.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on March 24, 2017, 01:33:01 AM
Apparently 'we' we singing about the war and stuff the other night.  Classy as ever
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 24, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
Apparently 'we' we singing about the war and stuff the other night.  Classy as ever

Wait til they play the Falklands.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: ally2 on March 25, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
Was listening to an interview with Eric Dier yesterday. By God he's boring!
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jamokachi on March 26, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
Was listening to an interview with Eric Dier yesterday. By God he's boring!

Yep. The modern day, sanitised English professional. Yuck.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on April 26, 2017, 11:10:28 PM
Oh dear, I've only gone and got a ticket to Scotland v England at Hampden in June. Could be a massacre. :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 28, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Oh dear, I've only gone and got a ticket to Scotland v England at Hampden in June. Could be a massacre. :)

I'll happily predict a dour 0-1, with a massive meal being made out of a couple of "feisty" challenges which were in fact nothing, but the game will be so dull the media need headlines from something
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2017, 08:45:03 AM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/england/40254464

Southgate wants to play Stones in a holding midfield role.

What is it with England managers trying to squeeze certain players into the side? Square pegs in round holes again and again.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on June 13, 2017, 05:09:21 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/england/40254464

Southgate wants to play Stones in a holding midfield role.

What is it with England managers trying to squeeze certain players into the side? Square pegs in round holes again and again.

Didn't Keegan play Southgate in the holding midfield role in the last game at the old Wembley when we lost 1-0 to Germany and Keegan resigned after the game?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Macca77 on June 13, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
What is the actual point of tonight's game then? International friendlies are the most pointless games in world football.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2017, 07:08:18 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/england/40254464

Southgate wants to play Stones in a holding midfield role.

What is it with England managers trying to squeeze certain players into the side? Square pegs in round holes again and again.

Typical British mentality

Have a centre half who's decent on the ball and he gets put in midfield.

We did it with King and Ferdinand and it didnt work, so it's not going to work with Stones
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2017, 07:17:05 PM
Typical British mentality

Have a centre half who's decent on the ball and he gets put in midfield.

We did it with King and Ferdinand and it didnt work, so it's not going to work with Stones
Its embarrassing that we are even thinking it. You simply should not need to play players out of their position at international level
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
Typical British mentality

Have a centre half who's decent on the ball and he gets put in midfield.

We did it with King and Ferdinand and it didnt work, so it's not going to work with Stones

It's just the direction of shifting that is typically British, Guardiola and all the other hipster managers are mad for playing a midfielder in central defence.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on June 14, 2017, 01:58:15 AM
This attempt at Dont Look Back in Anger is a pretty terrible tribute.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Optimistic Blue on June 14, 2017, 02:02:08 AM
Its embarrassing that we are even thinking it. You simply should not need to play players out of their position at international level

This, this right here is exactly what has been wrong with the England team for years. Why is it so hard to play players in their positions Jimmy?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: pjk on June 14, 2017, 02:22:20 AM
Oxlade Chamberlain is playing shit.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Cozzie on June 14, 2017, 02:38:36 AM
Harry Kane is really starting to piss me off.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2017, 02:49:57 AM
Heaton unlucky to have conceded a couple.

Stones a bit poor again.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2017, 02:52:16 AM
Missed the start of the game. France look a different level at the moment.

Sterling doesn't know what to do when he gets in the box.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on June 14, 2017, 03:05:29 AM
France are class, ridiculous amount of talent.

As for England, we just look a bunch of losers really.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on June 14, 2017, 03:10:41 AM
Wtf?  I thought you didnt get sent off for penalties anymore?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2017, 03:10:53 AM
Crazy red.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on June 14, 2017, 03:12:00 AM
Did Alli not just fall over his own feet there?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Zoolander on June 14, 2017, 03:15:08 AM
I get the decision to award a pen but a red card seems fucking harsh like
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 14, 2017, 03:32:01 AM
Pogba is a madman.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: pjk on June 14, 2017, 03:36:55 AM
It's not a bad game for a friendly though. :)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 14, 2017, 03:44:11 AM
Pogba is a madman.

I know this is an unpopular opinion but I like him!

Reckon he is very talented and although he does seem like a bit of a nutter I get the feeling he's a good egg
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Goaljira on June 14, 2017, 03:46:26 AM
Seriously though, how did we get nearly £50m for John Stones?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: pjk on June 14, 2017, 03:53:17 AM
I can't stand the fact that Gareth fucking Southgate is the England manager and Glen Hoddle is commentating for ITV.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: fubarruk on June 14, 2017, 03:55:21 AM
Eric Dier is utter shite, that is all.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2017, 03:57:07 AM
France with 10 men making it look like they have 12 and we have 9.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 14, 2017, 03:57:58 AM
Seriously though, how did we get nearly £50m for John Stones?

He seems to walk around pointing aggressively and shouting at people.

Shit tattoos as well.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: pjk on June 14, 2017, 03:59:36 AM
One day, the twats at the FA are going to give Hoddle his job back.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on June 14, 2017, 04:00:06 AM
How good is Butland though?
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: sam of the south on June 14, 2017, 04:00:52 AM
How good is Butland though?

Extremely good save from Mbappe.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 14, 2017, 04:07:33 AM
John Stones is actually a bit shit (and I always said it) his defending is crap and his distribution is decent at best. He just looks elegant with the ball at his feet. He's not actually very good at football though
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2017, 04:07:58 AM
How good is Butland though?

Gotta be number one now.

Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2017, 04:14:49 AM
Can't believe we only drew with that shite on Saturday. ;)
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2017, 04:21:06 AM
How good are France gonna be over the next few years though? They're already great to watch. Scary potential with Mbappe and Dembele.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2017, 04:36:02 AM
John Stones is actually a bit shit (and I always said it) his defending is crap and his distribution is decent at best. He just looks elegant with the ball at his feet. He's not actually very good at football though
You do say some bizarre things
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2017, 04:37:42 AM
You do say some bizarre things

Every single opinion has to be over the top.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: gizzblue on June 14, 2017, 04:46:07 AM
How poor would France be without the Senegalese french contingent ?.😅😅.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: gizzblue on June 14, 2017, 04:47:02 AM
Oh and England are shite at best .
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2017, 04:57:18 AM
How good are France gonna be over the next few years though? They're already great to watch. Scary potential with Mbappe and Dembele.

15/2 for the WC next year. Looks decent value.

Had a few quid on them at 11/1 in July last year.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2017, 08:23:01 AM
Theresa Mays Mexican wave was the highlight of England's performance.
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 14, 2017, 01:02:12 PM
Every single opinion has to be over the top.

I don't mean shite like Stephen Hawking is shite. I mean more in relation to his reputation and price tag. He's a bang average defender who looks good striding out with the ball. His passing is nothing special either
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 14, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
Every single opinion has to be over the top.

Also is it more over the top than the other widespread argument on here that he was some sort of superstar
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Fynci on June 16, 2017, 10:36:28 PM
Is this the U21 thread? If so, then the England v Sweden game is here:
Title: Re: England Team Thread (Yes I'm Not Keen On The National Team Either)
Post by: Shogun on July 05, 2018, 09:24:00 PM
Give us the World Cup now.

Bellend