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Title: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 23, 2016, 01:47:46 AM
So

After Tuesday is there any pressure on the players and the manager to bounce back or do we just write Tuesday off?

I'm hoping the league form kicks back in and lukaku is fit again!!

Stekelenburg
Coleman Jagielka Williams Baines
Barry
Mirallas Barkley Gueye Bolaisie
Lukaku

Hoping we slay the demons of last year too and have a comfortable win



Saturday
15:00 kick off
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 23, 2016, 02:13:29 AM
What happened on Tuesday  ;)
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 23, 2016, 02:49:33 AM
Let's be honest we're never gonna win the League Cup anyway, ever. So I'm glad our wake-up call came in that game rather than dropping points in the league.

Baines, jags, Lukaku and Barry all back please.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: Bluedylan on September 23, 2016, 02:53:06 AM
Koeman said Lukaku trained on his own today, and if he's fit to train with everyone else tomorrow, he'll play. If not, we're pretty fucked.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2016, 03:20:28 AM
Koeman said Lukaku trained on his own today, and if he's fit to train with everyone else tomorrow, he'll play. If not, we're pretty fucked.

Got to be Deulofeu up front if not.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: Bluedylan on September 23, 2016, 03:36:02 AM
Got to be Deulofeu up front if not.

I'd even think about playing Bolasie through the middle, just for his power and pace.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: TSGun on September 23, 2016, 03:55:08 AM
I'd give Barkley a go as striker myself.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: TheRam on September 23, 2016, 03:56:37 AM
I'd go with Kone
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: brap2 on September 23, 2016, 04:25:03 AM
I'd even think about playing Bolasie through the middle, just for his power and pace.

Deffo think he could do a job.
Title: Re: Bournemouth away.
Post by: TheRam on September 23, 2016, 04:40:52 AM
Could go mad and play someone in a false 9.

Bolasie and Mirallas either side playing that inverted winger role.

          Barry
      Barkley gana
 
            Del
Mirallas.           Bolasie
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 23, 2016, 05:10:41 AM
Mori up top
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 23, 2016, 05:30:23 AM
Mirallas and Kone up front, Bolasie and Deulofeu on the wings. If, Lukaku isn't passed fit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 23, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
Could go mad and play someone in a false 9.

Bolasie and Mirallas either side playing that inverted winger role.

          Barry
      Barkley gana
 
            Del
Mirallas.           Bolasie
I think Moyes did that against West Ham.

I think he played Rodwell as a false 9.

We dominated possession but it didn't work very well in creating chances!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2016, 03:37:57 PM
Just as long as he's done with the Valencia experiment.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 23, 2016, 04:05:00 PM
If we want to be considered as genuine title contenders then we should be beating the likes of Bournemouth quite comfortably

:)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 23, 2016, 04:22:15 PM
Surely we'll play Kone upfront if lukaku isn't fit. I can only assume the deulofeu and Barkley suggestions are a joke
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 23, 2016, 05:03:01 PM
Anyway, hopefully Big Rom's fine.

Be nice to beat these after last season, eh?

Another game where if we win, it'll be 'you haven't played anyone yet'. I wonder how many points we can accrue while not playing anyone. Hopefully loads.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2016, 05:08:10 PM
Anyway, hopefully Big Rom's fine.

Be nice to beat these after last season, eh?

Another game where if we win, it'll be 'you haven't played anyone yet'. I wonder how many points we can accrue while not playing anyone. Hopefully loads.

Only a fortnight to go until we play someone. It's come around quick.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 23, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
Only a fortnight to go until we play someone. It's come around quick.

And then we go straight back to playing no-one immediately after that (Burnley and West Ham, after City).

Someone should really let our players know you don't get points for beating those teams, you only get points for beating Arsenal or Chelsea away apparently.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 23, 2016, 06:18:41 PM
Does highlight how poor the window was if we're sweating on Lukaku's fitness facing Bournmeouth away.

Anyway the only real alternative is Kone obviously none of this hipster 'false 9' FIFA fanboy shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2016, 06:26:25 PM
It almost feels like there will be a big sigh of relief after every game if we get through it without any injuries from now until January, such is our lack of quality depth in the squad. Just have to hope we keep fluking wins against these nothing teams until we can get some more quality in.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 23, 2016, 06:27:12 PM
It almost feels like there will be a big sigh of relief after every game if we get through it without any injuries from now until January, such is our lack of quality depth in the squad. Just have to hope we keep fluking wins against these nothing teams until we can get some more quality in.
Which game did we flukily win?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2016, 06:28:19 PM
Which game did we flukily win?

Tongue in cheek Jimmy.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 23, 2016, 06:31:33 PM
Tongue in cheek Jimmy.
Ah
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/swnng.gif)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2016, 06:33:34 PM
Surely we'll play Kone upfront if lukaku isn't fit. I can only assume the deulofeu and Barkley suggestions are a joke

We played Deulofeu there throughout pre-season and against Spurs, but ok.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue slug on September 23, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
Are any of our U23's forwards worth having a punt on if lukaku is out?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 23, 2016, 06:51:34 PM
Are any of our U23's forwards worth having a punt on if lukaku is out?
Niasse?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 23, 2016, 06:58:47 PM
Hasn't Calum Dyson been hoovering up all the plaudits?
Title: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 23, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Does highlight how poor the window was if we're sweating on Lukaku's fitness facing Bournmeouth away.

Anyway the only real alternative is Kone obviously none of this hipster 'false 9' FIFA fanboy shit.

Please. A real "hipster" would be playing Football Manager.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Mick 1995 on September 23, 2016, 07:06:25 PM
Please. A real "hipster" would be playing Football Manager.

Shit, have i been out of the game so long that Football Manager isn't mainstream anymore?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 23, 2016, 07:07:36 PM

Shit, have i been out of the game so long that Football Manager isn't mainstream anymore?

Well, it's less mainstream than FIFA.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 23, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Please. A real "hipster" would be playing Football Manager.

Nice one homie I'll bear this in mind for the future.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 23, 2016, 07:20:44 PM
Nice one homie I'll bear this in mind for the future.
A little bit of vom in my mouth there

Like when me dad calls me "lad" or "mate"
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 23, 2016, 07:31:47 PM
A little bit of vom in my mouth there

Like when me dad calls me "lad" or "mate"

Think you're mixing me up with @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) ere bruv, ya feel me?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 23, 2016, 08:24:36 PM
I just want us and City 1-2 when we play.  That will be bad ass.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 23, 2016, 09:58:27 PM
Whatever happened to McAleny ? Didnt he have a decent year on loan at Wigan ? If he's still here he should be around the first-team squad...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 23, 2016, 10:06:53 PM
Whatever happened to McAleny ? Didnt he have a decent year on loan at Wigan ? If he's still here he should be around the first-team squad...

Seems happy enough picking up his 7 grand a week and getting off his Barnet.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 23, 2016, 11:49:23 PM
Can't see Wilshere getting a kick if Gana plays.

The Cherries will have to wait a little longer for their little loan revolution to commence.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2016, 04:59:28 AM
Can't see Wilshere getting a kick if Gana plays.

The Cherries will have to wait a little longer for their little loan revolution to commence.

Would love Gana to go right through him in the first minute and watch the little tattooed wide boy disappear.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on September 24, 2016, 07:14:31 AM
I just want us and City 1-2 when we play.  That will be bad ass.

Somehow Sky and NBC still wouldn't choose our match to play on TV.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Danny on September 24, 2016, 03:28:21 PM
Anyway, hopefully Big Rom's fine.

Be nice to beat these after last season, eh?

Another game where if we win, it'll be 'you haven't played anyone yet'. I wonder how many points we can accrue while not playing anyone. Hopefully loads.

If you do the double over the bottom 10 you get 60 points with 18 games still to play, seems crazy when put like that but it does show that weve dropped a hell of a lot of points against weaker sides the last few years.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 04:18:38 PM
These will be pumped up after Howe slagged their effort in the EFL Cup.

I think this could be a real tough one.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
Bolassie to shine today I reckon
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: pjk on September 24, 2016, 04:42:01 PM
These will be pumped up after Howe slagged their effort in the EFL Cup.

I think this could be a real tough one.



I think it could be a tougher game than expected. Howe made eleven changes to the side that started in their last league game, for their Tuesday EFL game. So if he plays the league eleven from last week none of the EFL losing side will be playing. Just thought I'd mention it like! :)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 06:07:23 PM
Does highlight how poor the window was if we're sweating on Lukaku's fitness facing Bournmeouth away.

Anyway the only real alternative is Kone obviously none of this hipster 'false 9' FIFA fanboy shit.

I prefer to see some Barkley Enganche action and maybe a bit of Idrissa Regista as well.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 06:49:11 PM
I prefer to see some Barkley Enganche action and maybe a bit of Idrissa Regista as well.

Just had to have another shower after reading that.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 06:50:02 PM
Any news on Lukaku yet?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 06:59:29 PM
Lad on tef says baines is out for a few weeks, ain't seen or heard that, have I missed sommet
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 07:00:38 PM
At least that would make the Funes Mori at left back thing make sense.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 07:01:53 PM
At least that would make the Funes Mori at left back thing make sense.
Not sure it will ever make sense tbh
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 24, 2016, 07:02:01 PM
Lad on tef says baines is out for a few weeks, ain't seen or heard that, have I missed sommet

Someone had an exclusive on that last night on nsno In the Jags and Baines thread!

Probably best ignoring it if Baines is fit to play though
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: wilbur on September 24, 2016, 07:24:53 PM
Baines is definitely out.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
I'd even put Holgate there before Funes Mori. Hopefully Oviedo can play.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 24, 2016, 07:48:29 PM
Funes Mori didn't actually do that bad when you consider how poor those in front of him were . The goal was a bute even if he had too much space but its not like he was arse raped for 90 mins . Think he is the new scapegoat due to the fact he was a Martinez signing . Cleverley like wise and Deulofeu is fading fast in a lot of fans eyes .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Robioto on September 24, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
Do we know if Lukaku is starting?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
Yeah Lukaku starts. So does Oviedo.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 24, 2016, 08:01:52 PM
Do we know if Lukaku is starting?

Yes he is
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 08:02:01 PM
Funes Mori on the bench
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 08:02:14 PM
Funes Mori didn't actually do that bad when you consider how poor those in front of him were . The goal was a bute even if he had too much space but its not like he was arse raped for 90 mins . Think he is the new scapegoat due to the fact he was a Martinez signing . Cleverley like wise and Deulofeu is fading fast in a lot of fans eyes .

Don't think he's a scapegoat or anything to do with Martinez. People are just concerned watching him because he makes numerous mistakes every game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 08:02:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/779666699897466880
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 08:03:09 PM
Today's ref is our ref from Tuesday's brother.  Forgot to post the full ref details yesterday, sorry.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 08:04:03 PM
Get well soon Leighton.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 24, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Just about our strongest team again, minus Leighton of course.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
EFC subs: Joel, Deulofeu, Lennon, Cleverley, Valencia, Funes Mori, Holgate.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on September 24, 2016, 08:08:31 PM
bench looks a little meh ,
Robles ,Lennon ,Deulefeu, Valencia ,Cleverley ,Funes Mori ,Holgate
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 08:08:56 PM
People go massively over the top about how bad oveido is.

He's a sound back up to Baines and I for one am happy to see him play.

And no, it's not just because he score a goal against man united once.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: alexb on September 24, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
Stream for today, anyone got a link?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
Oviedo is weak, thats my gripe and I have thought that for some time.  An OK back up but thats it.  I think people go more over the top about Mori.  It happens a lot where quite a few people appear to re-assess most of our players literally based on their last performance or two.  But that's normal I suppose.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 08:27:27 PM
People go massively over the top about how bad oveido is.

He's a sound back up to Baines and I for one am happy to see him play.

And no, it's not just because he score a goal against man united once.

It's almost like because how over the top people went about him at the time he scored that goal now people are coming down on him very hard. He was never amazing, just as he isnt terrible now. He is decent at most things as a full back, good at some, bad at some things but is a natural left back with good energy who knows how to defend to an ok level and is decent enough going forward.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on September 24, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
Stream for today, anyone got a link?

http://streamsarena.eu/events/20160924/bournemouth-vs-everton-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 08:29:48 PM
Oviedo is weak, thats my gripe and I have thought that for some time.  An OK back up but thats it.  I think people go more over the top about Mori.  It happens a lot where quite a few people appear to re-assess most of our players literally based on their last performance or two.  But that's normal I suppose.

He is weak, and he turns his back on the play too often as well which results in his body shape being all wrong when he then has to do anything. It is too easy for wingers to get the better of him in a battle of strength. But it will be good to see him in a team with good shape around him as individuals shouldnt be as exposed in general any more.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
im so nervous, nightmares of last season :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
Oviedo is everything you want in a squad player.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Robioto on September 24, 2016, 08:53:25 PM
I'm not watching the game today, randomly got offered a place in a box at QPR and I'm not one turn down free food and beer.

BBC alerts and NSNO today COYB!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 08:54:02 PM
Any reliable streams please?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 08:55:06 PM
I shudder to think what's in one of them Bournemouth knock-off Happy Meal boxes...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 08:56:55 PM
Come on Everton!

If we can get our attacking game together we will murder these.

We will be solid this time around than we where under Martinez, they will be up for this because of their cup defeat but so will we.

More pressure on them being the home side.

Lets ave it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
http://streamsarena.eu/events/20160924/bournemouth-vs-everton-live-stream-3.php

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 08:59:22 PM
Fancy Barkley to have a good game here.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 08:59:38 PM
http://firstrowi.net/soccer/fri-afc-bournemouth-vs-everton-netge3hg
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
Both Everton and J-Södra playing at the same time!

Its going to be a tough Saturday...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:01:50 PM
Wilshire will score today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:02:31 PM
Again...CHRIST, ROSS!!!!!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 24, 2016, 09:02:38 PM
Wilshire will score today.

Hopefully an own goal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:02:49 PM
I shouldn't have spoke.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:08:27 PM
Nice anticipation by Stek there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:08:43 PM
Kramer will be unhappy with that early danger zone chance
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:08:57 PM
Again...CHRIST, ROSS!!!!!

Whats he done? I was having my pre match poo
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 09:09:01 PM
Did the ref make them re-take that because it didn't leave the area, even though it wasn't a goal kick?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:09:45 PM
Kinell should be 1 up !
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
Good save, but probably has to score there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 09:09:49 PM
good work there, unlucky Lukaku, that's a great save
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:09:51 PM
Proper thought that was in. fuck.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:09:58 PM
Ladies and Jagielkas. He really is past it. So slow and not reading the game enough.




Yeah. Right.


By the way, Rom should've scored.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:10:49 PM
come on now
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:11:05 PM
what a save, Rom gets robbed on the header

First minute, great Bolasie cross lands right at Ross' feet, and he isn't ready.  Ross puts hands to head in agony.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:11:37 PM
Effort by Barkley.  lolol Think he pressed the wrong button there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:11:54 PM
Jeeez
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
off the bar, so we each can feel jobbed now
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:12:17 PM
Jesus. We arent too clever when they break
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 09:12:31 PM
any steams, mines gone down
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
fuck me, that's a bit of luck there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 24, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
Lucky with the bar there. Opened us right up.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:12:57 PM
This is ridiculously easy for Bournemouth, this is last season defending here.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:13:02 PM
Honestly, how was that 'shoulder barge' not a foul?

He's nowhere near the ball when he does it
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
Holy eff. A touch of Martinez at the moment.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:13:42 PM
any steams, mines gone down

http://streamsport.eu/soccer/afc-bournemouth-vs-everton-sp3m70o
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
Holgate for Oveido?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Bolasie doesn't have a left foot apparently. We awake yet or what?.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
Williams and Bolasie a bit all over the place at the minute.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 09:15:30 PM
Sloppy start this.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
Wilson giving us the run around here.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: keverton1971 on September 24, 2016, 09:16:01 PM
http://streamsarena.eu/events/20160924/bournemouth-vs-everton-live-stream-2.php
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:18:25 PM
we are damned lucky they don't have two or three, let alone one...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2016, 09:19:02 PM
That was close!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:19:05 PM
Need to get on the ball and calm things down to shut the crowd up
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
can we recall Galloway, or what??
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:19:21 PM
I could not have been more wrong with my prediction about Barkley today. Lol.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 09:19:29 PM
This feels like a Martinez game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:19:53 PM
Anyone got a stream whats actually running? Cant watch this its pausing every 20 seconds
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:20:07 PM
This is really pooor so far.

Lost our shape and confidience totally here... Need someone to take command or some crazy Coleman bashing right now!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: april on September 24, 2016, 09:20:11 PM
http://streamsarena.eu/events/20160924/bournemouth-vs-everton-live-stream-2.php
Thank you. Link 2 on that page is excellent.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 09:20:23 PM
Is Koeman bothering with a pre match team talk?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:21:05 PM
Is Koeman bothering with a pre match team talk?
Only half time it seems...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 09:21:07 PM
Coleman and Williams getting a work over here
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:21:34 PM
Barry been non existent here
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:22:03 PM

Coleman and Williams getting a work over here

Not sure it is Williams' fault, he's getting dragged over to left back to cover the giant gaps Oviedo is leaving
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:22:35 PM

Coleman and Williams getting a work over here

Not sure it is Williams' fault, he's getting dragged over to left back to cover the giant gaps Oviedo is leaving
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Stood like statues. Close him down ffs.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 09:22:57 PM
Well that was coming
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:23:02 PM
no chance for Stek there.  Shambolic, we are
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
shite.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:23:19 PM
Twat
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
It was coming. Poor.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
Wow.

That's awful from us.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 09:23:28 PM
We need to buy that cunt
One game a season always us
Title: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2016, 09:23:32 PM
Was bound to happen, boss finish tho
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:23:38 PM
That was bound to happen
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:23:39 PM
Well that was to be expected...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 09:23:50 PM
standing off again

nobody anywhere near him, just lets him pick his spot and smash it in
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:23:51 PM
We seem to start slowly I have noticed.

This should be the wake up call. We seem half asleep
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:23:54 PM
How do you give a player that much space?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 09:24:00 PM

no chance for Stek there.  Shambolic, we are

I'll give you 5 minutes til people start claiming he should have saved it
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:24:09 PM
Holgate on NOW
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:24:12 PM
Getting absolutely dicked. Midfield overrun, defence all over the place, nothing on the counter.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: april on September 24, 2016, 09:24:27 PM
Well that was coming. Why was no-one within 6 yards of him when he got the ball? Come on Everton!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 09:24:33 PM
Bournemouth absolutely deserve this.

The Norwich game has really knocked the stuffing out of us.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:24:38 PM
Been shocking so far. Our midfield have just been completely bypassed. They just pick it up and run past our midfield unchallenged.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
Bolasie: sometimes you just have to give the ball and move into space la.

Stop trying the same thing every fucking time you get the ball
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:25:03 PM
How do you give a player that much space?

Oveido is shit
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:25:11 PM
Well that was to be expected...
...and a red card in 24th min for J-Södra... Fucking yay raight now!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
I remember this feeling.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:25:23 PM
How do you give a player that much space?

same goddamned thing as goal #2 Tuesday
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:25:26 PM
Really out the traps Bournemouth. Fully deserved. Woeful by us.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:25:42 PM
Strange how we consistently start so poorly.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
Seriously: Groundhog day.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
Holgate on NOW

Why?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
We don't get a grip here it'll be two soon.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
Only Gueye getting close to them, the rest are nowhere.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
Midfield nonexistent
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
The pressing isnt there. Don't seem up for this. Even gueye is off.

Getting well and truly spanked like a red headed step son here.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:27:31 PM
Shows how important Baines is to us!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:27:31 PM
It's got the feeling of a proper bumming this. They want goals. We either need to score, or get a grip in midfield.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:27:38 PM
Why?

why NOT?

First half sub worked last time we looked this horrid.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:27:52 PM
Barry looks 45 today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 09:28:01 PM
Bournemouth have been excellent. I think our defence is the concern here and the midfield is paying the price.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 24, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
Koeman obviously not focusing on the start of the game in training .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:28:53 PM
NBC said Barry picked up a knock in training this week but playing through it, just fyi
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:30:24 PM
Not one of them is on their game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:30:46 PM
Why?

He loves a good woeful tactical shout, only reason I can think of.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on September 24, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
did Oviedo even take a step toward Stanislas?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on September 24, 2016, 09:31:31 PM
after watching the replay it looks like the goal scorer was barrys responsibility, he got drawn in to the passer and left him wide open. if hes playing that role the centre backs will be further back so hard to blame them there
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
Echo: "Gareth Barry is also said to be carrying an ankle problem but does take his place in the starting line-up alongside Idrissa Gueye."

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:31:48 PM
We're again a bit too one-dimencional in the enemy's end.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:31:58 PM
Bournemouth always give chances and goals up though. Just need to stay in the game, and we'll get opportunities.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 09:32:31 PM
If Barry is carrying a knock it's pretty fucking poor we've only got 1 midfielder on the bench
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
Mirallas needs to show something.  Arguably he's the midfielder who has offered the least in the games we've played to date.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:32:52 PM
Gareth Barry. Jesus.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Echo: "Gareth Barry is also said to be carrying an ankle problem but does take his place in the starting line-up alongside Idrissa Gueye."



It's looking a big mistake. He's way off the pace.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:33:14 PM
He loves a good woeful tactical shout, only reason I can think of.

harsh but fair!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:33:44 PM
Ive never wanted half time more.

Really lucky its only 1-0
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:34:21 PM
Barry off at half time.

Clearly isn't fit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 24, 2016, 09:34:38 PM
Look terrible here.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 09:34:54 PM
Oviedo having a mid-life crisis with that hair cut
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2016, 09:35:00 PM
This might have been a game for a back three.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on September 24, 2016, 09:35:00 PM
the knock is clearly affecting him, Barry for Cleverley at half time i think.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 09:35:15 PM
Oviedo's hair is terrible.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
Shows how important Baines is to us!

Was thinking that as well.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on September 24, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
only thing saving Cook from a card there is Bolasie not acting a twat like Arter
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:37:07 PM
One could also drop Barkley back and bring on Deulofeu, save Clev for later (when Bolasie tires).  But probably a straight swap of Clev for Barry, yeah.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 24, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
"Come on lads we haven't woke up here" is what I'd say
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: april on September 24, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
The well-groomed man-child Eddie Howe has done his homework. Bournemouth are tactically superior and unless changes are made soon they'll win this with ease.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
We'll win this. If we'd to lose that Jags performance would've been a goal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 09:37:34 PM
Getting destroyed here.

Would take HT now.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:37:37 PM
Not one player who's even 5/10 so far.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:37:44 PM
Need to hope we keep this at 1-0 til HT and let Ron give them another bollocking.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 09:38:06 PM
Oviedo looks like he's lost a lot of weight.

This match is fuckin terrible to watch though.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
Jesus this is terrible. Jagielkas header and what he fuck is Bolasie playing at. Everytime he gets it hes doing a daft fucking trick
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:38:31 PM
That is awful from Bolasie.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 24, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
I'd cashout now for a draw
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:38:56 PM
Not one player is having a good game for us.

Bolasie and his utter refusal to pass the ball is really fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:39:29 PM
Is Bolasie retarded
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
Props to Eddie howe.

Hes had our pants down tactically here.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:39:32 PM
Atrocious from Bolasie.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:40:09 PM
And the Shite are thrashing Hull... bad day so far. :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:40:39 PM
I missed this lads :).
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
Funes Mori or Holgate on for Barry to deal with the passes into the channels, then maybe an attacking swap for Bolasie or Mirallas if they still aren't at it in the second half.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
Its a pity we only have 3 sub's, he could take of Barkley, Barry & Bolasie at half time. Been awful all 3 of them.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Bolassie. What an entertainer.

Just get past the guy next time. Although seeing something like that on the pitch does tell you something about the team chemistry. Bolassie asking questions. Hopefully Rom replies.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 24, 2016, 09:42:23 PM
Would take Bolasie off half time. He's seeing lots of the ball and has been terrible with it
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:42:40 PM
Unlucky he got caught then Bolasie. Was long gone.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
I like Bolassie but he seriously needs to get his shit together today. At least he gets on the ball though as opposed to Ross, Rom and Mirallas who've hardly done a thing between them. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:43:06 PM
microcosm of our fucking half there
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: pjk on September 24, 2016, 09:43:17 PM
I've only just got back. Are there any streams? It sounds like we're playing shite. Let's hope our new found fitness levels and a bit of Koeman magic sorts it out at half time.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:43:58 PM
Clawing my eyes out watching this.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 09:44:04 PM
I've only just got back. Are there any streams? It sounds like we're playing shite. Let's hope our new found fitness levels and a bit of Koeman magic sorts it out at half time.

http://streamsarena.eu/events/20160924/bournemouth-vs-everton-live-stream-2.php

here, bruv.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 09:44:14 PM
yeah, as atrocious as he's been technically, at least Bolasie has been IN THE MATCH.  Unlike any of the other forward players.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:44:59 PM
As bad as Bolasie has been, at least he's shown for the ball and tried to make something happen. Barkley and Mirallas might as well not be on the pitch.
Title: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 09:45:04 PM
Not going to be hooking people at half time every game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 09:45:06 PM
Clawing my eyes out watching this.

Washing mine with napalm.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:45:40 PM
The pressing from Bournemouth is phenomenal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 09:46:25 PM
And the Shite are thrashing Hull... bad day so far. :(
And J-Södra having 0-1 as well and one man down... Good thing I have a LOT of whisky here...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:46:52 PM
Every away game has been the same with a chronic first half. Need to sort that out Ron.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:46:55 PM
Bolasie is going to divide the fan base more than any player in recent memory.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
Mice when the camera pans in and your reminded that Mirallas is actually on the pitch.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Having Barkley on is like playing with 10 men. He is offering absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Might be the time to try Barkley deeper. He's looking a bit clueless as a No.10.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 09:47:43 PM

Bolasie is going to divide the fan base more than any player in recent memory.

More than Barkley?!

;)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
So, so bad.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 09:47:49 PM
The pressing from Bournemouth is phenomenal.

Should be able to make them pay for that, this is bananas.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Chrisknms on September 24, 2016, 09:48:01 PM
Time for the hairdryer treatment!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 09:48:02 PM
Time for Ross Barkley to be dropped and have a sustained period out the team.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:48:13 PM
Stunning from Bournemouth that. Did everything right. Never gave us a sniff.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:48:26 PM
I think all this nonsense about Barkley being too good to fail is coming to an end. Think hes on the verge of complete failure now. Inept again (in fairness as havee most been)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:48:44 PM
At least it's only 1-0. Should be game over.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Risky on September 24, 2016, 09:48:54 PM
2nd best in all areas, completely not coping with the way they're pressing us high up the pitch.

Only positive really is that they're only 1 up and we're still in it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 09:48:56 PM
Need some changes, personnel wise and tactically. Luckilly we are only 1-0 down...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
Very poor that

Can see Barry coming off and maybe 3 at the back
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
The pressing from Bournemouth is phenomenal.

Weve been dreadful with the ball. Not hard to press players who cant pass
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2016, 09:50:11 PM
Barkley has been one of our better players so far.

Nowhere near as bad as some make him out to be and definitely not as bad as Mirallas, Bolasie, Gana, Barry, Oviedo or Williams.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 09:50:11 PM
Valencia and Cleverley for Barkley and Barry then go old school 442
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 09:50:28 PM
Needed this to go in...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtIECBUXYAAFJeK.jpg)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 09:50:33 PM
I'd burn Barkley at the stake.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
Can't say Barkley was as bad as anyone else in the half. Even Gueye had a bit of a shocker.

Barry looks like he needs to come off.

I think Koeman might bollock them and keep the team the same second half, unless he takes Barry off, moves Ross back and buts Deulofeu on.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Any mobile streams?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 09:51:11 PM
Just hope he gives them a rollicking at half time.

Can't remember the last time I watched a game where the outcome seemed so inevitable.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:51:30 PM
Don't know why anyone is picking out any one player over any other. Not a good performance anywhere to be seen that half.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 09:51:46 PM
Mirallas has been anonymous
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 09:51:49 PM
I'd be actually very tempted to make 2 substitutions to make a statement - problem is hardly any of our subs are better than our starting XI.

I feel sorry for Barry as he was probably rushed back for this game but I can see no other option but to bring on Cleverley.

Bolassie has been extremely frustrating but at least he's tried to get the ball forward, he just needs a bit of a bollocking to get his act together for the second half.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: april on September 24, 2016, 09:52:03 PM
Oviedo off, Funes Mori on, go to a back 3. He'll score a header from a corner.
Barry off, Barkley brought deeper, Deulofeu on up front, he'll score us the winner.
Can I get odds on that?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
We are playing with almost half a team ,Barry injured before he came out ,Barkley no where near ,Mirallas not getting a kick ( not really all his fault) Bolasie looking like a complete tosser  Gana off the pace and the centre backs struggling
Come on Ronald sort it
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
Mirallas has been anonymous


Again
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 09:52:47 PM
They've kept 1 clean sheet in 17
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 24, 2016, 09:53:13 PM
It's a poor team performance all round, even Bolasie is only highlighted because he's seen most of the ball. What is giving cause for hope is that it's only 1-0 and there's lots of room for improvement. Any substitution right now could theoretically be the right one. Think Barry is injured and needs to come off though. Wouldn't mind it being three at the back in that case since Oviedo isn't a great defending left back.
Title: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 09:53:29 PM
3 at the back is an option but I'd be very worried about Oviedo in that system

Edit - or whoever is left back
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
Barkley will get hooked here at half time
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2016, 09:54:18 PM
Can't say this performance hasn't been coming.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 09:54:46 PM
I think the only chink in their armour so far has been in defending set pieces. It might be worth bringing on Mori for those alone. Definitely would bring Deulofeu on too. Could take your pick as to who he'd replace.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 09:54:54 PM
As poor as that's been, we could still very conceivably win this. They will give chances up, and are dodgy at set pieces. Reorganise, tighten up, use the ball much better and the game's still there for the taking.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 09:54:56 PM
Barkley isn't a number 10
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: YellowHold on September 24, 2016, 09:55:00 PM
Very strange the number of players who've been having a good season that have been pathetic today.

I'd expect we'll be better second half, but that first 25 minutes was embarrassing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 09:55:17 PM
I wonder if that was Gueye at Villa. Running around trying to do the work of 3 and getting nowhere near anyone
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 24, 2016, 09:56:27 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?

It's the in thing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 09:56:32 PM
Agree with @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) with Bolasie, yes he has been awful with the ball and his decisions terrible. But he is making sure he is involved, he is annoying people because people are getting to see him do things wrong as he is looking for the ball and trying to do something. Mirallas as he often can be has been invisible, drifting through the game not looking to do anything. That for me is worse than making poor decisions or getting what you are trying to do wrong.

Koeman can instruct Bolasie to do different things, tell him to play with same hunger to get on the ball but do something simpler, or look for a pass etc. Its much harder to get someone playing with fire when they lack that consistent mindset like Mirallas does.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?

Cos that makes you look more knowledgeable. See, I told you he was shit, but you wouldn't listen, you never do.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
The most likely change will be Barry for Cleverley. After struggling like that all half he's not going to use his first sub up on bringing Deulofue on yet while Barry's so obviously hampered.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: hannu on September 24, 2016, 09:57:39 PM
worst ive seen us this season
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:57:40 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?

Not really being singled out as plenty others are getting criticised but he has been poor 4 games in a row.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on September 24, 2016, 09:57:50 PM
Again

Should be moved centrally. Drop Barkley deeper. Bolasie to the left. Gerry on the right.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?
Pretty sure I've seen, mirallas, bolasie, Oviedo, Barkley, Barry all criticised in this thread
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on September 24, 2016, 09:58:27 PM
Not really being singled out as plenty others are getting criticised but he has been poor 4 games in a row.

Just not factually accurate.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 09:59:59 PM
Agree with @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) with Bolasie, yes he has been awful with the ball and his decisions terrible. But he is making sure he is involved, he is annoying people because people are getting to see him do things wrong as he is looking for the ball and trying to do something. Mirallas as he often can be has been invisible, drifting through the game not looking to do anything. That for me is worse than making poor decisions or getting what you are trying to do wrong.

Koeman can instruct Bolasie to do different things, tell him to play with same hunger to get on the ball but do something simpler, or look for a pass etc. Its much harder to get someone playing with fire when they lack that consistent mindset like Mirallas does.

Or we are just playing down the right more because Coleman is much better than Oviedo?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 10:00:24 PM
Ideally we'd bring Davies on to shore up the midfield, but he's not on the bench so no idea.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
Just not factually accurate.

Been an absolute liability 3 games in the last 4?? Is that better?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 10:00:48 PM
any decent streams for the second half?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?
Agree, today its time for some Koeman criticism so far.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 10:01:23 PM
any decent streams for the second half?
Feel like I wanna jump in one after that first half
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 24, 2016, 10:01:25 PM
Shite aren't we.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 10:01:47 PM
Any subs
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 10:01:58 PM
Just not factually accurate.

My mistake- 5 games in a row.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:01:59 PM
Ideally we'd bring Davies on to shore up the midfield, but he's not on the bench so no idea.

He's surely injured?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:02:07 PM
Can't see any changes.

He will want that team to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 10:02:08 PM
Or we are just playing down the right more because Coleman is much better than Oviedo?

Partly true, but at times Bolasie has got on the ball in central areas or on the left. He looks to get involved in the play, he wants the ball and he will go looking for it. Mirallas when he isnt in the right mindset doesnt, too many games he doesnt look to make an impact which is why despite the amount of talent he has he has never pushed beyond the level he is at now.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:02:20 PM
No subs.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:02:31 PM
no changes?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
no changes?

No.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
No changes, well shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Valencia, Cleverly and Lennon warming up
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
Valencia, Cleverly and Lennon warming up


Not the best line up of options.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:05:00 PM

They've all been shit so why single Barkley out?

Because there has been no relationship at all in an attacking sense down the middle. Our strengths are down the wings so I would go 442 as I said for a more solid midfield and give lukaku a partner. If you do that then something has to give. In my
Opinion we should focus on attacking down the wings but let's see.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:06:20 PM
What was Oviedo doing there?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:06:29 PM
Barkley is a fucking passenger.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 10:06:39 PM
Rather Del over Valencia myself. Wouldn't mind being proven wrong though. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:07:17 PM
Gueye lucky to not get a dumb yellow there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on September 24, 2016, 10:07:18 PM
Been an absolute liability 3 games in the last 4?? Is that better?

Don't agree; but it least is a reasonable statement.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:07:25 PM
I know people want Barkley to do more defensively but he commits himself and gets beaten so easily, he'd be better just trying to contain and cut out the passing channels.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:08:48 PM
my stream is fucking shite :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:08:52 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:09:19 PM
We looked shell shocked, do well to get a point out of this
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:09:37 PM
Same as the first half this.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:09:40 PM
Literally walking through us.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:09:45 PM
Oviedos best attribute seems to be stand off...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
this is just fucking sad
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
Need to make the changes. Its got no better and it was shocking. Terrible with the ball terrible without it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:11:12 PM
Coleman has been useless. Made Ibe look value for money
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
a point would constitute highway robbery

Clev coming on
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:13:10 PM
That was a good chance.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:13:13 PM
Bit better at last.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:13:22 PM
should of scored :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 10:13:27 PM
Cleverley then
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
Hes got to score. Its a sitter.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:13:37 PM
Hey, a chance.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
a point would constitute highway robbery

Clev coming on


Tend to agree with that. Still greedy for 3 though.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 24, 2016, 10:14:47 PM
I'm hoping we'll get a last minute winner to get revenge for this match last season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:15:14 PM
Not sure Mirallas' run helped too much there, Barkley could've played it earlier tough.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:15:22 PM
Strange starting Barry when carrying a knock... I could understand if we could get 60 mins out of him at 100 % but starting with someone who can only go for like 80% is strange....
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:15:30 PM
City only drawing. C'MON EVERTON
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:15:31 PM
At least we're showing something though.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:16:43 PM
Want to see Deulofeu on.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:17:44 PM
hate feeling this way it sucks.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: hannu on September 24, 2016, 10:17:46 PM
At least we're showing something though.

not much tho
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 24, 2016, 10:17:47 PM
Kev out, Geri in. Ross continues.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:17:50 PM
correct sub here, I'd be ballsy and go Lennon for Oviedo
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:17:58 PM
Want to see Deulofeu on.

God help us. Not sure I can cope with the waste if we have to see him and Barkley at the same time
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:18:28 PM
Jimmy the kit man won't need to wash Miralllas kit this weekend.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:18:53 PM
Haven't retained the ball or sustained any pressure at any stage of the match. Woeful.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:18:54 PM
not much tho

No, just slightly better. Hopefully we can build on tiny embers.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:19:25 PM
Fair do's. Mirallas has done jizz all today
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:19:44 PM
i hate Oviedo
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2016, 10:19:51 PM
Oviedo has been brutal. This is where loaning Galloway bites us in the ass.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Del. You had space mate.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
Atrocious Del. At least win a corner.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:21:16 PM
Fair do's. Mirallas has done jizz all today

Hasn't done much all season. I think he gets away with it compared to Barkley as he's less "visible" on the wing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:21:23 PM
Cracking start by deulofeu. Catches them on the break. Lets 2 players catch up and then loses it for a goalkick. Hes a fucking circus act. Lads a clown
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
Come on Everton FFS.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:22:03 PM
Clev's done really well so far
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: april on September 24, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
Cleverley (especially) and Deulofeu have improved things since coming on.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:23:34 PM
Fuck off Bolasie, fucking biff 5-a-side player him.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Bolasie having a mare.

Get Lennon on.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:24:30 PM
Bolasie's £25m is starting to look silly.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:24:44 PM
touch too heavy by Deulofeu
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Omar on September 24, 2016, 10:25:02 PM
Could have done this a bit earlier.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:25:05 PM

Fuck off Bolasie, fucking biff 5-a-side player him.

It's going to happen some times, he's a high risk / reward player.

When it's not working though for him you need to take him off, if hook him for Lennon
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:25:24 PM

It's going to happen some times, he's a high risk / reward player.

When it's not working though for him you need to take him off, I'd hook him for Lennon
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
FUCK OFF god, so sloppy
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
Im sorry but Deulofeu is just shit. Waste waste waste waste waste
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
I'd stll do Lennon for Oviedo, but Bolasie also fine.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:26:14 PM
Barkley. What's up with him?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 10:26:15 PM
Bolasie's £25m is starting to look silly.

More so when you consider Mane was available for not much more
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 10:27:01 PM
That was terrible by Barkley
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:27:08 PM
Barkley. What's up with him?

Not as good as we all thought. Same for a lot of these players. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Surely we can't keep this up for 90 mins?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:27:14 PM
Need to show something soon.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
Our attacking players are all playing like morons. Actual morons. Some of the worst decision making you'll ever see.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
They've worked very hard and are finally getting tired. We need to make this spell count before fresh legs liven things up for them again.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:27:26 PM
Barkley needs deleting.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
I could happily smother Barkley and Deulofeu with a pillow. Not a shread of sense between them
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:27:59 PM
I'd start Deulofeu on the road, Bolasie at home.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:29:15 PM
Lennon on for Barkley. Play del in the middle.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:29:19 PM
Not sure what to do with the last sub, Kone for Barkley maybe?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:29:38 PM
His refusal to play Lennon in the league is strange.

He's at least a clever footballer who will keep it ticking.

Something you need when you've got Barkley, Bolasie, del and Mirallas
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:29:56 PM
I'd start Deulofeu on the road, Bolasie at home.

Im hoping Barcelona take him back. Fucking start him? Hes terrible. Blown 2 decent chances already today. Hes probably blown 8 or 10 already this season. Not scored for 10 months. Fucking start him??
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:30:05 PM
Not sure what to do with the last sub, Kone for Barkley maybe?

Not on the bench.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:30:22 PM
Horrible.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:30:22 PM
Drop the Lennon shouts. He's wank too
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
Shots on target
B/mth 1 - 2 Everton
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:30:40 PM
Drop the Lennon shouts. He's wank too

He isn't.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:31:07 PM
the point is begging to be nicked now
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:32:15 PM
Gotta congratulate Bournemouth pressing to be fair.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
Drop the Lennon shouts. He's wank too
Nah he's not wank
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:33:15 PM
Can see him bringing on Funes Mori for the last 10 and throwing him up front.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
Need another forward here, not enough people in the box to hit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 10:33:25 PM
To be fair to Bournemouth, they are doing a brilliant job closing us down, our attacking players have little chance.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:33:36 PM

Gotta congratulate Bournemouth pressing to be fair.

This is the fitness levels we need to aspire to
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:33:43 PM
definitely a martinez game this, fucking slow and sloppy
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:33:44 PM
clever Clev
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 10:33:47 PM
It's impossible to sustain pressure and create strong attacks when your number 10 is miles off the pace. The position is simply to important
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:33:56 PM
Got to hit the target.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:33:56 PM
Cleverley motm
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Wow this is absolutely awful to watch.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 24, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
Just checking, this is live?
Not a recording of a game from the Martinez era?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 10:34:20 PM
Just second best all day.

Think I've had enough of this game now, hopefully we win because of it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:34:48 PM
Cleverley motm

by miles and miles
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:34:59 PM
Nice play but hard to finish...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:35:15 PM
Think Wilshire won the battle with Gana today
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:35:23 PM
Good chance for Bolasie.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:35:34 PM
Bolasie FFS. You don't need to leather every shot. Pass that into the corner. The whole goal to aim at.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:35:37 PM
Horrible games like this. Everything going out for throw ins.

Shite.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:36:20 PM
you have to give Bolasie this much - he's worked his ass off
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:37:29 PM
Come on Blues, they are nervous now.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
Del been awful
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
Worst I've seen Deulofeu play in a while.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:38:19 PM
FUCK OFF BARKLEY

FUCKING HAD IT WITH HIM.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:38:45 PM
Nothing is coming off for anyone.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:38:50 PM
Bold move
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
Deulofeu is a truly horrible footballer. Takes some skill to lose the ball as often as he has. He even manages to wait for defenders to catch up so he can lose it again. Waste waste waste waste waste
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:39:15 PM
here comes their 2nd....
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:39:22 PM
Ram's right. We've got too many stupid players, not enough cleverness. We're all pace, power and technical ability but no brains.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:39:41 PM
Fuck off Barkley. Honestly can't be assed with him.

Been dreadful this season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 10:39:44 PM
oh god
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:39:44 PM
Koeman will want to rid himself of Deulefeou
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:40:36 PM

Ram's right. We've got too many stupid players, not enough cleverness. We're all pace, power and technical ability but no brains.

To be fair, we only need that in the number 10 position and Barkley is the one that is supposed to be able to provide it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
Don't think there's any chance Barca are gonna activate that clause any time soon.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:41:03 PM
Ha, a foul throw...tells you everything there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:41:25 PM
what is Oviedo today? 2/10??
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: pjk on September 24, 2016, 10:41:31 PM
Streams are crap today so I'm listening on the OS audio. Glad I can't see it. :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:41:51 PM
We've been poo but Bournemouth have been excellent to be fair.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:42:06 PM
Don't think there's any chance Barca are gonna activate that clause any time soon.

Think had Martinez still been here theyd be a danger wed pay them to go away. If they try it with Koeman he'll be back at Barcelona
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:43:09 PM
Ram's right. We've got too many stupid players, not enough cleverness. We're all pace, power and technical ability but no brains.

Which is why I don't understand the Bolasie signing.

We've added yet another stupid, inconsistent player with no football brain to the attacking line up, when we should've been looking to replace Osman and pienaar.

Get used to this performance as it'll be the first of many.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 24, 2016, 10:43:09 PM
Deulofeu is a truly horrible footballer. Takes some skill to lose the ball as often as he has. He even manages to wait for defenders to catch up so he can lose it again. Waste waste waste waste waste

Training with McGeady would have done that.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 10:43:14 PM
To think people were genuinely worried about how we could fit Juan Mata into this team
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:43:31 PM
Bolasie has been beyond hopeless today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 24, 2016, 10:43:53 PM
what is Oviedo today? 2/10??

His usual self
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:44:07 PM
Given we have been shite and B'mth excellent, its lucky we are still in this.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:44:32 PM
We're not going to score are we?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:44:41 PM
Weve got a lot of extremely thick footballers in attacking positions.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:44:49 PM
Amazing how easy it has been.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:45:12 PM
what is Oviedo today? 2/10??
Compared to Baines? Really really not clever...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 24, 2016, 10:45:25 PM
Bolasie
Oviedo
Barkley
Del
Mirallas

Piss poor today. Absolutely dreadful.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 10:45:28 PM
Deserve fuck all from this
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:45:33 PM
Inevitable since the first minute.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueblueblue on September 24, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
3hrs of dross, sadface
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
Twaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat so close.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:47:05 PM
Man that was a chance.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:47:11 PM
I can categorically, emotionally, mentally, physically and telepathogically state Bournemouth will not have an easier game all season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:47:16 PM
how does Valencia miss THAT??

and FFS, stop saying Bolasie is brainless, that's the smartest bit of football we've had all day
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
What a fucking miss. Not our day
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 10:47:36 PM
harder to miss that one Valencia
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:47:50 PM
That's what you get when you sign someone like Valencia.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 24, 2016, 10:47:51 PM
We've been awful but we've missed 3 gilt edged chances
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2016, 10:48:08 PM

how does Valencia miss THAT??

and FFS, stop saying Bolasie is brainless, that's the smartest bit of football we've had all day

It's not an easy chance for Valencia, he can't see he ball til the last minute and it's comes at waist height
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Nicco on September 24, 2016, 10:48:09 PM
Really need to score thoose chances when playing like this!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:48:15 PM
this is shite. everything has been wrong today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 24, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
how does Valencia miss THAT??

and FFS, stop saying Bolasie is brainless, that's the smartest bit of football we've had all day

He misses it because he's a bag of wank
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2016, 10:48:31 PM
One positive is that despite being absolute shite we've had more than enough chances to win the game. The bad news is, we've missed all of them.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:50:03 PM
I am willing to even go as far as to say Bournemouth will get absolutely twatted next game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on September 24, 2016, 10:50:19 PM
how does Valencia miss THAT??

and FFS, stop saying Bolasie is brainless, that's the smartest bit of football we've had all day

I can't stand the color commentator on NBC today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 24, 2016, 10:50:20 PM
It is early days yet and these are the days when Koeman can see what he has been left with by Martinez. One to get shut of is Gerry who flatters to deceive and shows again and again he can't cope at this level. Back to Spain for him. The lack of form of established players may be temporary. The weakness of the squad is well known and has to be addressed. Other dross to get shut of Kone, Gibson, probably McCarthy and Cleverley will all take time to replace. The Merseyside radio commentary is a disgrace. I can't imagine Liverpool getting this sort of criticism when they are off form.  Reality check for us, a first defeat. Mid table is reasonable for this transitional season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 10:50:36 PM
Cleverly, Oviedo and Enner Vallencia on the pitch at the same time. I think that answers Thomas' question about why we don't expect us to be challenging for top 4 or the title
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:51:03 PM
I envy Bournemouths energy. They have allowed us absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:51:06 PM
Fucking hate us when we play like this. Can accept losing games to better teams, but this has been horrendous. Brainless performance. Shouldn't have played Barry against an energetic team if he's not fit. Terrible from start to finish.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 10:51:10 PM
Rom, Barkley and Valencia all should have scored today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:51:21 PM
Deulofeu trying to dribble past 3 players 25 yards from his own goal. Soft cunt.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 10:52:09 PM
Everything Coleman has touched today has turned to shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
Soooo bad.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
Feel sick with how awful we have been.

So underprepared. When barry is off we are shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
It's embarrassing that we cant even play direct.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:53:12 PM
Rom, Barkley and Valencia all should have scored today.


I wonder if Koeman will say this, or tell the truth that we deserved nothing today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
Baines out, Barry and Rom could barely trot.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2016, 10:53:37 PM
Every team has days like this. It's not pleasant but it's a reality of being a football fan. If you can't handle one of these every once in awhile, I'm not sure what can be done for you.

If it becomes a regular thing under Koeman then fair enough. But it isn't yet, so take a deep breath and relax.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 10:53:43 PM
I envy Bournemouths energy. They have allowed us absolutely nothing.

Missed some absolute sitters despite being shite. A decent side would have passed right through them. Weve made them look good
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 24, 2016, 10:53:54 PM
Deulofeu is a shit player.

He should be fined a months wages for that laughable attempt at a tackle about 10 minutes back. Beyond pathetic.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
So assessment. Was it just an easy opening set of fixtures or are we a bit shit?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:54:10 PM
This Adam smith looks a right cunt.

Hope this really fucking hurts.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 24, 2016, 10:54:17 PM
I think Del Boy will be joining Niasse on Koemans naughty step.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 10:55:06 PM
@Cozzie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1629) have you been on the vodka redbulls?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2016, 10:55:10 PM
At least we weren't given a false ray of hope like Sunderland.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Rom, Barkley and Valencia all should have scored today.


and 2 of those 3 chances set up by PERFECT balls from Bolasie.  He may frustrate at time, but he creates chances like nobody we've had in forever.  Foolish to call him a waste of money or brainless.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 24, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
At least we weren't given a false ray of hope like Sunderland.
Last I saw they were 2-0 up.  Are they sure they got Moyes not Martinez?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:56:37 PM
That was shocking uterrly laughable how shit that was.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Sprooly on September 24, 2016, 10:56:41 PM
Barkley was disappointing but jesus Mirallas Deuleufou Ovideo and Bolaise were a complete embarrassment...


complete dog shit performance, wasn't even a tactics or line up issue, the players were just simply awful
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2016, 10:56:57 PM
Palace next... who just won from 2-0 down...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ridge on September 24, 2016, 10:57:07 PM
Dogshit
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 10:57:08 PM
@Cozzie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1629) have you been on the vodka redbulls?

Will be now.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 24, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
fuck off Everton. We really are actually shit arent we haha
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: chang on September 24, 2016, 10:57:29 PM
Two games v Norwich and Bournemouth and we fail to score in either.

 :eh:
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 24, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
Outfought and outplayed.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:58:11 PM
Calm the fuck down!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 24, 2016, 10:58:42 PM
January window can't come quick enough
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 10:58:56 PM
What a way to give up the undefeated record. Shambolic.

Just no fight.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 10:59:00 PM
I wonder if Koeman will say this, or tell the truth that we deserved nothing today.

he's usually pretty honest in his assessment, we were terrible. You could put Roms shot down to a great save, but Barkley had a free header that he didn't even hit the target with, Valencia didn't know whether to kick, knee or fuckin head the ball and he should have scored, you could even argue that Bolasie should have hit the target when we worked it through the middle.

One thing we know is that we have no depth of quality.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 10:59:10 PM
Every team has days like this. It's not pleasant but it's a reality of being a football fan. If you can't handle one of these every once in awhile, I'm not sure what can be done for you.

If it becomes a regular thing under Koeman then fair enough. But not yet.

It's the individually performances that have riled me, more so than the collective performance

Barkely and del yet again have played abysmal, Mirallas again went missing and Bolasie put in such a brainless performance.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 10:59:25 PM
Ok. Oviedo, useless. The lad can't defend and puts in the odd cross, why is he still at Everton?, should have binned him off after his injury.

Del has been shite since last Christmas now with no real sign of improvement, not sure what's wrong with him since at one point we were worried Barca would want him back (lol).

Barkley needs to be left out of the team for the foreseeable, he's stinking the place out and I'd genuinely rather see one of the kids play his 'role' what ever the fuck that is.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
The difference in fitness was almost as startling as in the first game of the season. We're improving but still way behind where we should be.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 24, 2016, 10:59:35 PM
So assessment. Was it just an easy opening set of fixtures or are we a bit shit?

This was an aleged "easy" fixture. You should be winning these games easily if you have any aspirations of finishing high in the league. So far we have only played Spurs and Stoke from last year's top ten teams so therefore we are shite.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 10:59:42 PM
We still don't have a player who can be relied upon to put their foot on the ball in the final third of the pitch.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 10:59:49 PM
It hurts more because of the good start to the season and all the other top teams winning. People are bound to be disappointed after that utter dross. Let them express it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2016, 10:59:56 PM
In all seriousness this was a poor game but those were our best players out there today. We've had a good start to the season overall. I'm more concerned about the form of certain individuals.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 11:00:01 PM
Some pretty dreadful performances. Coleman and Oviedo were both shite. Gueye and Barry did fuck all. Bolasie made a couple of good chances but some of what he did was beyond stupid. Lukaku barely chalenged. Barkley is a bit shit and a bit wasteful as always. Deulofeu though.... He really is just shite. Hes thick as pig shit. Just wastes so much. Im utterly amazed that anyone rates him. He butchers good positions every single game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 11:00:03 PM
We didn't play well at any stage of that match.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 24, 2016, 11:00:09 PM
Look at it this way, at least we won't go into the Etihad overconfident now!  :D
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 24, 2016, 11:00:15 PM
Up there with the worst I've ever seen us.

How many time did Bolasie lose the ball?

Oviedo is like a boy in a mans game.

Barkley and Mirallas anonymous.

Lukaku starved.

Deulofeu looked drunk

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 11:00:32 PM
The team will always have bad days.

But some of the individual performances on display today are hard to take.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2016, 11:00:52 PM
We still don't have a player who can be relied upon to put their foot on the ball in the final third of the pitch.

Bolasie puts his foot on the ball in the final third.

And then drags it. And then does it again. And again. And then loses it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 11:01:02 PM
We didnt solve the problem in the window that all our attacking players apart from Lennon are complete individual players. Their first thought is what can i do, can i score a goal, can i beat a man. Those players are fine, you need them but we signed Bolasie who is another one of them and didnt get anyone of a different mould to get us a different option of balance.

So when we have individuals who have awful games like they all did today, we are going to be very poor.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 11:01:33 PM
Credit to Bournemouth and Eddie Howe, they deserve their win and made our attack look comedic.

Looks like it will take a while longer to exorcise the spirit of Martinez at Everton.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 11:01:46 PM
and 2 of those 3 chances set up by PERFECT balls from Bolasie.  He may frustrate at time, but he creates chances like nobody we've had in forever.  Foolish to call him a waste of money or brainless.

I wasn't aware that I called him anything, don't think I've even mentioned him?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2016, 11:02:49 PM
When you look at the dross we have as squad players, it baffles me that we didn't really spend on that area of the team. What does Cleverley and the like even offer to the team other than a shirt running around?.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: pjk on September 24, 2016, 11:02:55 PM
Look on the bright side, we only need 27 points to reach safety ???
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 24, 2016, 11:02:58 PM
Two games v Norwich Reserves and Bournemouth and we fail to score in either.

 :eh:

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 11:03:17 PM

The team will always have bad days.

But some of the individual performances on display today are hard to take.

It's always a bit odd when so many have terrible performances.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 11:04:00 PM
We didnt solve the problem in the window that all our attacking players apart from Lennon are complete individual players. Their first thought is what can i do, can i score a goal, can i beat a man. Those players are fine, you need them but we signed Bolasie who is another one of them and didnt get anyone of a different mould to get us a different option of balance.

So when we have individuals who have awful games like they all did today, we are going to be very poor.

All completely inconsistant flair players. Is Kone injured. He should have been our first sub in the last 2 games. Least you know he will hold it up and win a few flick ons
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 24, 2016, 11:04:18 PM
We didnt solve the problem in the window that all our attacking players apart from Lennon are complete individual players. Their first thought is what can i do, can i score a goal, can i beat a man. Those players are fine, you need them but we signed Bolasie who is another one of them and didnt get anyone of a different mould to get us a different option of balance.

So when we have individuals who have awful games like they all did today, we are going to be very poor.

Lukaku's also pretty unselfish but yeah the 3 behind him are not team players. Maybe Martinez knew what he was doing by not playing Mirallas and Deulefou at the same time much.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:04:42 PM
It is early days yet and these are the days when Koeman can see what he has been left with by Martinez. One to get shut of is Gerry who flatters to deceive and shows again and again he can't cope at this level. Back to Spain for him. The lack of form of established players may be temporary. The weakness of the squad is well known and has to be addressed. Other dross to get shut of Kone, Gibson, probably McCarthy and Cleverley will all take time to replace. The Merseyside radio commentary is a disgrace. I can't imagine Liverpool getting this sort of criticism when they are off form.  Reality check for us, a first defeat. Mid table is reasonable for this transitional season.
If only the buy back is sadly only if they want him and would you want him ?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 11:05:30 PM
The window is coming back to bite us on the arse, big time.

Barkley is horrendous, I am going to have to finally admit he will never make it, he has had more than enough chances, he was a total passenger today.

We looked crap against Norwich without Barry, and equally as crap with an injured Gareth barry today.

Are we really all about Gareth Barry?

The team was unbalanced when Koeman took over, he mentioned this but it is really showing, we let him down not getting the deals done in the window, and ended up with Valencia on loan when we have a billionaire owner.

Losing some key players to the ACON in Jan, it's gonna take a few windows to get this right but are we confident the current board, with that farce of a summer window, are to be trusted to deliver.

A lot of questions today, Bournemouth well and truly raped us, fair play to them, just did the basics right.

We will have a better season than last season obviously but there are so many fucking things wrong with this squad.

Barkley needs to be completely dropped, give him a run out of the team, but then who the fuck do we put in, anyones guess.

I don't know really, probably spouting all kinds of shite because I am pissed off, but that was embarrassing today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
Days like these highlight the paper thin nature of our squad.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:06:38 PM
Every team has days like this. It's not pleasant but it's a reality of being a football fan. If you can't handle one of these every once in awhile, I'm not sure what can be done for you.

If it becomes a regular thing under Koeman then fair enough. But it isn't yet, so take a deep breath and relax.
I agree totally but the sad thing for him is he must realize that for all he thought he was inheriting he has so many make-weights
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
fuck off Everton. We really are actually shit arent we haha


and strangely you are a wanker
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 11:07:24 PM
Lukaku's also pretty unselfish but yeah the 3 behind him are not team players. Maybe Martinez knew what he was doing by not playing Mirallas and Deulefou at the same time much.

He definitely knew it. Having Mirallas deulo ross and rom on the pitch you are relying on individual greatness to win the match, Bolasie similar but at least he works hard off the ball as frustrating as he is on it.

Lukaku isnt as selfish as the others, but for a forward he is very much in the mindset of how can he score whereas the role he plays he needs to offer consistency of being a focal point, and he still needs to do more when we dont have the ball. If he wants to get the elite level he believes he can, look at how Costa plays when he is focussed he doesnt give the defence a minutes peace whoever has it. Rom comes alive when there is a goal in the making.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 24, 2016, 11:08:07 PM
I expected a reaction from Tuesday, that was exceptionally poor. Lets be honest it should not have been a contest by half time. Bournemouth should have been a few up by then.

What this further confirms is that half dozen of these players won't be at the club next summer and that probably includes Ross Barkley. The problem Koeman has is still trying to get 100% from players which he doesn't want. Not easy.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2016, 11:08:23 PM


and strangely you are a wanker


Came out of nowhere this.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2016, 11:08:38 PM


and strangely you are a wanker


Bit harsh.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 11:08:50 PM

All completely inconsistant flair players. Is Kone injured. He should have been our first sub in the last 2 games. Least you know he will hold it up and win a few flick ons

You don't though.

He can pull off the odd good piece of control in really difficult situations but his use of the ball is too slow.

He'll often completely miss control the basic ones as well.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
Came out of nowhere this.

I got to admit, it took me by surprise, haha.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 24, 2016, 11:09:43 PM
All completely inconsistant flair players. Is Kone injured. He should have been our first sub in the last 2 games. Least you know he will hold it up and win a few flick ons

For the style of player he is, yes. However the problem is he isnt near Premier league standard anymore. He doesnt have the legs, pace and while his first touch when the ball goes into his chest can be very good he doesnt have the nimbleness to then do anything with it. He holds onto it for too long and ultimately offers nothing as a result.

Its a tough one as there arent really many options. Deulofeu was the right sub for Mirallas in terms of trying something else. Maybe Lennon at half time for Mirallas would have been better for a safer option who works harder that could have helped us get a foothold in the game before trying to be expansive.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 11:09:46 PM


and strangely you are a wanker


I reckon she's boss at it too
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 24, 2016, 11:10:33 PM
Koeman must take a lot of blame today. You can't start a premier league game with a player injured if you've got alternatives who are fit and capable. We never got going and part of the reason for that was because we missed Barry's influence, he might have been on the pitch but he wasn't present today and we looked much better when he went off.

Poor team selection, some terrible individual performances plus missing some very presentable chances equal tough shit no matter who you're playing against and today Bournemouth weren't up to much really.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 24, 2016, 11:11:42 PM
Could have brought Cleverley on for one of the wingers or Barkley and made it tighter in the middle to establish a base to attack from but that's a brave call when losing at someone like Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:11:48 PM
Bolasie puts his foot on the ball in the final third.

And then drags it. And then does it again. And again. And then loses it.
wrong every time he dragged it he lost it
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 24, 2016, 11:11:56 PM
January is a shit window as well to get players in.

Just hope we can get some form of a game plan going between now and then.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:12:46 PM
Credit to Bournemouth and Eddie Howe, they deserve their win and made our attack look comedic.

Looks like it will take a while longer to exorcise the spirit of Martinez at Everton.


Nothing to do with Martinez this one ,just a lame excuse
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Brownie on September 24, 2016, 11:13:14 PM
What a big, steaming pile of shit that was.

I never usually criticise players but I don't think Ross has it mentally to be a great player.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 24, 2016, 11:13:53 PM
I'm sorry but we aren't bringing in anyone of note in January. Let's nip that in the bud now
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:14:35 PM
I wasn't aware that I called him anything, don't think I've even mentioned him?
I cannot understand what that is about if Gana is worth 7mill then Bolasie has got to be worth 3mill
Sorry a typo
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 24, 2016, 11:15:04 PM
Let's face it
As a side we were generally wank last season, it's pretty much a similar side so it wasn't inconceivable that a performance like this would happen

You have to hope that koeman rips into them and we bounce back from this

Too many players didn't just under perform,were actually awful
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 24, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Silver lining, I got max points from the prediction league...... :(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 24, 2016, 11:15:21 PM
Barkley needs to be completely dropped, give him a run out of the team, but then who the fuck do we put in, anyones guess.

It's unfortunately that we don't really have the luxury of dropping many of the underperforming players.

Oh well, I hope the club is busy working on transfer targets for the next 3 months - no pressure Mr Walsh!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 24, 2016, 11:16:12 PM
For the style of player he is, yes. However the problem is he isnt near Premier league standard anymore. He doesnt have the legs, pace and while his first touch when the ball goes into his chest can be very good he doesnt have the nimbleness to then do anything with it. He holds onto it for too long and ultimately offers nothing as a result.

Its a tough one as there arent really many options. Deulofeu was the right sub for Mirallas in terms of trying something else. Maybe Lennon at half time for Mirallas would have been better for a safer option who works harder that could have helped us get a foothold in the game before trying to be expansive.

Lennon is an infinitely better bet than Deulofeu. Least youre getting a consistant level in terms of workrate defensive play and common sense. Deulofeu is a horrible footballer. Can make a decent youtube video out of the odd occassions it works but generally hes butchering positions wed struggle to make a mess of. The lad is simple. He does very little on a football pitch which is based in logic. In the clear on the right and he fucking waits for the defenders to catch up. Theres people on here suggesting we should give Barcelona 10M not to re-sign him. We should piggyback him there if they are remotely interested in adding a simpleton to their possession football
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ridge on September 24, 2016, 11:16:36 PM
Bit of a reality check.

Think you've got to give credit to Bournemouth, it was painful to watch.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:17:07 PM
The window is coming back to bite us on the arse, big time.

Barkley is horrendous, I am going to have to finally admit he will never make it, he has had more than enough chances, he was a total passenger today.

We looked crap against Norwich without Barry, and equally as crap with an injured Gareth barry today.

Are we really all about Gareth Barry?

The team was unbalanced when Koeman took over, he mentioned this but it is really showing, we let him down not getting the deals done in the window, and ended up with Valencia on loan when we have a billionaire owner.

Losing some key players to the ACON in Jan, it's gonna take a few windows to get this right but are we confident the current board, with that farce of a summer window, are to be trusted to deliver.

A lot of questions today, Bournemouth well and truly raped us, fair play to them, just did the basics right.

We will have a better season than last season obviously but there are so many fucking things wrong with this squad.

Barkley needs to be completely dropped, give him a run out of the team, but then who the fuck do we put in, anyones guess.

I don't know really, probably spouting all kinds of shite because I am pissed off, but that was embarrassing today.
A little over reaction there was no rape here ,rape is without consent ( and I am not making light of a terrible act)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 24, 2016, 11:18:58 PM

and 2 of those 3 chances set up by PERFECT balls from Bolasie.  He may frustrate at time, but he creates chances like nobody we've had in forever.  Foolish to call him a waste of money or brainless.

I'm sure Barkley's chance was a Coleman cross.

We were so shit today. Just so shit.

Shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 24, 2016, 11:20:44 PM
I reckon she's boss at it too

 Well you might know better than me but.........I would like to know how
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 24, 2016, 11:24:09 PM
Well you might know better than me but.........I would like to know how


just using the law of averages to be honest
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on September 24, 2016, 11:25:38 PM
OK...well let's put it in to perspective...my perspective at least:)
We all expect this to be a rebuild year with a finish of anywhere from 6 to 10 being a success...our second place standing was deceptive and flattering...we are going to lose games...today we deservedly lost based on our first half performance...even then we had three great chances and missed all of them...one of those days...Oviedo- not EPL level, Del- totally luxury. Bolasie- frustrating as hell BUT WORKED ALL GAME and still provided the brilliant cross at the end...Ross....it's now or never for him BUT not really a no.10.
So sad day, lots of work to be done but I still trust the direction we are going in.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2016, 11:26:57 PM
Take back what I said about Oviedo being a very good squad player. Could have done with Galloway today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 24, 2016, 11:33:03 PM
So shit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2016, 11:35:11 PM
Koeman must take a lot of blame today. You can't start a premier league game with a player injured if you've got alternatives who are fit and capable. We never got going and part of the reason for that was because we missed Barry's influence, he might have been on the pitch but he wasn't present today and we looked much better when he went off.

Poor team selection, some terrible individual performances plus missing some very presentable chances equal tough shit no matter who you're playing against and today Bournemouth weren't up to much really.

You'd have to say so. Barry should've probably been the one closing down that space that the goal came from. So it may well have been a costly decision. Wonder if Lukaku was given injections or some such to play too, he didn't altogether look at the races either.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2016, 11:50:45 PM
The real issue is we have no strength in depth so we have to play players who aren't fit or stinking the place out.
We're another half a dozen players away from being where we should be.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2016, 12:03:21 AM
Maybe people will now wake up to why people were apoplectic at the end of the transfer window.

1st eleven aside, the squad is dreadful.  No backup whatsoever in certain key positions.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on September 25, 2016, 12:11:58 AM
Start the day 2nd with a chance of going top. End the day 5th ,Arsenal going above us ( and the shite )
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 25, 2016, 12:13:41 AM
Maybe people will now wake up to why people were apoplectic at the end of the transfer window.

1st eleven aside, the squad is dreadful.  No backup whatsoever in certain key positions.

The squads strong enough, stop moaning.. lol.

This place was pretty fucking stupid when we didn't really sign many keys players.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2016, 12:24:22 AM
You'd have to say so. Barry should've probably been the one closing down that space that the goal came from. So it may well have been a costly decision. Wonder if Lukaku was given injections or some such to play too, he didn't altogether look at the races either.

Yeah I'd imagine Lukaku probably had some help as well. The bench seemed an odd choice as well given we went into the game with two players carrying an injuries but only one option for each, yet we had two defenders on the bench and two wingers.

You'd expect it to be the other way round in that situation if you're gambling on starting players.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 25, 2016, 12:25:33 AM
Koeman knew he needed another 2-3 and smiled through gritted teeth when we only got Valencia.
We have no choice whatsoever but to keep playing the same players week in week out until January.
No option of freshening it up, nothing of any quality coming in if we pick up some injuries, nothing really on the bench to change a game....
We can kid ourselves and say it's a one off but we've not consistently played well all season and our front five have only turned it on in fits and starts.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 25, 2016, 12:35:02 AM
Disappointing.

And that's all. I'm not going to slate certain non-scoring, non-playmakin' individuals.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ih8redshite on September 25, 2016, 12:40:35 AM
Disappointed but surprised no. We've been shite all season, I wouldn't say we've dominated any team tbh. We have scored and won which has papered over the performance. It's going to take time, a lot have been led into a false sense of confidence due to league position. It's gonna take time, especially after the disastrous lack of transfers that we desperately needed.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2016, 12:47:11 AM
I'm as disappointed as anyone today but we haven't been shite all season, we wouldn't have 13/18 points if that were the case.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 25, 2016, 12:49:50 AM
I am going to make a statement that will get slated but I think Koeman will walk on us because the board will fail to live up to its promises . Stones money is all we spent and Valencia was desperation stuff . There will be fuck all doing in January and he will see the writing on the wall . The bloke is nobodies fool and will be Arsenals next Manager when Wengers contract is not renewed . We can still do ok as we have a decent first 11 but he won't achieve anymore than Martinez and may well achieve less .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on September 25, 2016, 12:50:03 AM
Disappointed but surprised no. We've been shite all season, I wouldn't say we've dominated any team tbh. We have scored and won which has papered over the performance. It's going to take time
...........its gonna take time / a whole lot of precious time / its gonna take patience and time / to do it to do it .........and its gonna take money/a whole lot of spending money / to do it right child  :badum:
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 25, 2016, 12:51:05 AM
Been lucky it didnt happen before today ....total shite today  some players have looked better
than they really are up to press, we wont know how ambitious our new owner is for another 12 months...
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 25, 2016, 12:59:34 AM
I'm as disappointed as anyone today but we haven't been shite all season, we wouldn't have 13/18 points if that were the case.

Sorry but I disagree we have been lucky and we are shite at the moment
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2016, 01:00:13 AM
Sorry but I disagree we have been lucky and we are shite at the moment


The last two seasons is what I'd call shite, personally.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 25, 2016, 01:00:54 AM
We were shite today but also unlucky, on another day we could have still walked away with a draw or a win even playing that shite. Should have scored 3 goals really.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 25, 2016, 01:01:57 AM
I am going to make a statement that will get slated but I think Koeman will walk on us because the board will fail to live up to its promises . Stones money is all we spent and Valencia was desperation stuff . There will be fuck all doing in January and he will see the writing on the wall . The bloke is nobodies fool and will be Arsenals next Manager when Wengers contract is not renewed . We can still do ok as we have a decent first 11 but he won't achieve anymore than Martinez and may well achieve less .

We can all make up stories like that with no foundation other than what you guess might be the case ,stop trying to make the situation worse than it is
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 25, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
...........its gonna take time / a whole lot of precious time / its gonna take patience and time / to do it to do it .........and its gonna take money/a whole lot of spending money / to do it right child  :badum:
I suppose the recipe is out of the question!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on September 25, 2016, 01:04:11 AM
The last two seasons is what I'd call shite, personally.


Well for the first time in my life I have been shown there are actually at least two kinds of shite
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Maybe it's the same with all fanbases, but some of our lot are idiots. Proper idiots.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2016, 01:22:57 AM
We haven't been great all season but no one plays great from minute 1-90 week in week out.

Is it a surprise that we've lost 1 in 6?

No because nearly every other team has too.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 25, 2016, 01:34:54 AM
Some mad shouts on here tonight
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 25, 2016, 01:35:45 AM

 The Koomans face said it all today....not good enough and nowt he can do at the moment,
 a key game considering who was playing who elsewhere and our position in the table...
 players should all be self employed and told to fuck off and don't  bother monday  because you didn't
 bother on satudi.....dont call us etc....
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 25, 2016, 01:35:54 AM


and strangely you are a wanker


oh :'(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2016, 01:38:28 AM
Surely everyone would have taken 13/18 points at this stage with a winnable home game next?

I know we've had some of the lesser teams but that's still a more than health return.

Anyone being brought down to earth should deservedly suffer a bumpy landing as they were obviously being wildly over optimistic and expecting a certain title challenge or something.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 25, 2016, 01:39:33 AM
On the strength of a good encouraging start, an awful lot of shite has been  talked before, during and after the Bournemouth game. In reality, we are only an average team with a lot of average players, and a few crap players. Koeman cannot change this in a few weeks, or even in a full season, assuming he can change it at all. I watched Arsenal tonight, who they say may not make the top 4 this season. We are light years behind them. Their squad is far better than ours, and so are the squads of City, Liverpool, M Utd and Spurs. Live with it and accept a top 10 position this season, and hopefully a lot better next season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 25, 2016, 01:40:47 AM
The Koomans face said it all today....not good enough and nowt he can do at the moment,
 a key game considering who was playing who elsewhere and our position in the table...
 players should all be self employed and told to fuck off and don't  bother monday  because you didn't
 bother on satudi.....dont call us etc....
Yeah that is a great idea that

Self employed players
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2016, 01:43:58 AM
I can't actually believe someone's seriously suggested that Koeman's going to walk in January, as we sit joint 3rd in the league. The mind boggles.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2016, 01:48:49 AM
It's like people have forgotten that even in a (very) good season we're going to lose about 6-10 games.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2016, 01:59:36 AM
Koeman wont walk, ridiculous shout.

However, one can't help but feel he is a little pissed off given what he was "promised" when he made the switch.

Yes we doubled his wages and people can look at that, but that transfer window was a disaster, he must have been, and probably still is, seething about it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 25, 2016, 02:02:24 AM
Koeman wont walk, ridiculous shout.

However, one can't help but feel he is a little pissed off given what he was "promised" when he made the switch.

Yes we doubled his wages and people can look at that, but that transfer window was a disaster, he must have been, and probably still is, seething about it.

When I said he will walk I didn't mean now but the promises he has been made will turn out to be empty . Just a hunch based on the last 30 years of EFC .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 25, 2016, 02:03:27 AM
We've got a nice game to bounce back with on Friday.

You don't want to be playing one of the big boys then have two defeats on the bounce.

He's still learning about the players. It will take him a few months to know who's good enough and who isn't
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 25, 2016, 02:04:27 AM
We've still averaged so far 2.17 pts per game after 6 games, which is astonishing considering we only averaged 0.6 pts per game in the last 6 games of last season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: therealdunc on September 25, 2016, 02:14:06 AM


He's still learning about the players. It will take him a few months to know who's good enough and who isn't

he clearly already knows, the likes of niasse, osman and mcgeady have gone

the average dross like gibson, cleverley, lennon , oviedo and fumes mori will never be part of his plans for the first 11.

what is most disapointing about koeman's signings other than Valencia so far has been Bolasie. He was poor for palace when starting games and was only consistently useful as a impact sub.
To be relying on Bolasie as a first 11 player is not a good sign.

Hopefully some long term reinforcements are planed for January.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 25, 2016, 02:14:17 AM
I think there's a slight over reaction on here tonight, we've still had a good start to the season.

We're seeing now that the transfer window was a let down but our 1st 11 is USUALLY good so let's not get too carried away

We will need a least a couple of key signings in January even if we have to pay over the odds for them, I think we'll get them as the owner will want to make a statement after that deadline day fiasco.

We've got to hope our main players stay fit until then, Walsh will have had plenty of time to identify targets

To be fair though palace is now a must win if we're serious about staying in and around the top 6 because if we lose on Friday it's likely to be 4 defeats on the bounce (including Norwich) and that will be shit.

Lot if pressure on us against palace now, let's see how we respond
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 25, 2016, 02:26:50 AM
Sorry but I disagree we have been lucky and we are shite at the moment


Yeah we created almost nothing against Middlesboro. How we got 3 goals is a miracle. Then 0 vs Norwich reserves and 0 again. Worrying.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 25, 2016, 02:50:28 AM
So we are blowing a wad of cash on a mid fielder this January, aren't we?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 25, 2016, 03:39:34 AM
We've still averaged so far 2.17 pts per game after 6 games, which is astonishing considering we only averaged 0.6 pts per game in the last 6 games of last season.

We are actually 1 point better of than at the same point last season and already out of the 1 cup so far contested . Koeman will soon know what managing Everton and our fans is all about .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2016, 04:04:34 AM
It's like people have forgotten that even in a (very) good season we're going to lose about 6-10 games.

True, but there are ways of losing that are acceptable and today's wasn't one of them. It was a pathetic performance.

100% effort, fight, determination and will to win are the minimum requirements... then if the other team is better then ok, you can lose.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2016, 04:05:32 AM

We are actually 1 point better of than at the same point last season and already out of the 1 cup so far contested . Koeman will soon know what managing Everton and our fans is all about .

We only had 9 points after 6 games last season; unless you mean the equivalent fixtures?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 25, 2016, 04:34:16 AM
True, but there are ways of losing that are acceptable and today's wasn't one of them. It was a pathetic performance.

100% effort, fight, determination and will to win are the minimum requirements... then if the other team is better then ok, you can lose.

I'm in full agreement with this.

I think though we need to give this new regime some time to rid the laziness from the previous regime.

I also think people my be over reacting because the last 2 seasons we saw to much of this and it's a bit scary seeing it happen with a new manager in charge.

Let's hope next weeks game we are back to our winning ways and today is just one of those types of games where everyone was off.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2016, 05:13:14 AM
Fucking drama or what. We were shit today and midweek but there's lots of good things going on in this team and lots to look forward to.  What reassures me is the fact we have decent points on the board and have only played well in patches, there's lots still to come from players we know are capable of more.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 25, 2016, 05:27:02 AM
It's a long term job. We are already better defensively. All our signings have had at least a decent start. We've got decent points on the board
Think the reality is we've done quite well so far but we needed more players we need more time
I don't think Barkley deulofeu or Mirallas are what koeman wants. It takes time though. We need the next transfer window.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 25, 2016, 05:41:19 AM
Although I can't wait until we get more players in (hopefully in January), I am hoping that some of the shit performances from some of the players is more to do with the fact that they are still adapting to Koeman's tactics and style and only very slowly moving away from Martinez mode.

It pains me to see Deulofeu play so shite because he has shown that he can be a very good player, part of me wonders though if he only works well under certain managers especially those who focus less on the physical side of the game. Hopefully there is a plan as well to get Barkley to evolve his game and at least try to do a bit more of the dirty work.

Koeman has a very big job to do, it doesn't matter that Everton failed to strengthen at the end of the window as he's getting paid a very nice six-figure sum every week so he has to bear a lot of the responsibility as well if things do not go well results wise.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 25, 2016, 06:23:18 AM
OK...well let's put it in to perspective...my perspective at least:)
We all expect this to be a rebuild year with a finish of anywhere from 6 to 10 being a success...our second place standing was deceptive and flattering...we are going to lose games...today we deservedly lost based on our first half performance...even then we had three great chances and missed all of them...one of those days...Oviedo- not EPL level, Del- totally luxury. Bolasie- frustrating as hell BUT WORKED ALL GAME and still provided the brilliant cross at the end...Ross....it's now or never for him BUT not really a no.10.
So sad day, lots of work to be done but I still trust the direction we are going in.

I don't expect us to rebuild. Lukaku and Barkley are experienced players now and need to perform. We've also no longer got a young central defender and a shit keeper. Next year with Jagielka and Baines a year older, Lukaku probably gone and likely more new signings than this year it'll be another case of needing to rebuild. 9th or 10th this season will be pathetic imo.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on September 25, 2016, 01:34:45 PM
One positive to take from yesterday is that we're not Bournemouth fans so we only have to put up with that shit TV camera angle once a season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Ih8redshite on September 25, 2016, 02:16:45 PM
What baffles me is that for years now, even back to Moysey, we have this mental attitude that we can only perform for 45 mins of a game!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 25, 2016, 02:24:54 PM
We seriously need to work on this prematch routine/team talk/whatever as we always start games half asleep.
I don't know what it is but it needs addressing as apart from the Spurs game this season we haven't got going until we either concede or after a half time bollocking.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 25, 2016, 02:53:12 PM
We only had 9 points after 6 games last season; unless you mean the equivalent fixtures?

My mistake . In my disappointment I missed out the Swansea game and my maths went to pot . Still don't think we are any better than we were and if he starts upsetting players when the levels dip we don't have enough strength in debt to cover the sulkers as Martinez found out .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: TSGun on September 25, 2016, 05:07:12 PM
Completely missed this game and by the sounds of it perhaps that was somewhat fortuitous.

It couldn't have been that bad could it?

I can't help but think teams feel if they can score early against us we struggle to assert ourselves.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: minty on September 25, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Completely missed this game and by the sounds of it perhaps that was somewhat fortuitous.

It couldn't have been that bad could it?

I can't help but think teams feel if they can score early against us we struggle to assert ourselves.

One positive is that Bournemouth created nothing in the second half.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 25, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
Completely missed this game and by the sounds of it perhaps that was somewhat fortuitous.

It couldn't have been that bad could it?

I can't help but think teams feel if they can score early against us we struggle to assert ourselves.

I dunno - sometimes it feels to me that we only start after a wake-up call like a goal or a bollocking from Big Ron.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 25, 2016, 06:51:10 PM
I dunno - sometimes it feels to me that we only start after a wake-up call like a goal or a bollocking from Big Ron.

Me too.

It's still early days, it's going to take time. The shite got some terrible performances and results under Klopp, it'll be the same with us.

We certainly need to strengthen, but we're 5th in the table, and if we can stay around there, it'll be a good season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Alfie Noakes on September 25, 2016, 07:48:56 PM
I didn't see the game so I read a report on the BBC website. They wrote that it was a thoroughly deserved victory and that Everton were outplayed.

When I saw the stats I was surprised to read that Bournemouth only had one shot at goal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
I didn't see the game so I read a report on the BBC website. They wrote that it was a thoroughly deserved victory and that Everton were outplayed.

When I saw the stats I was surprised to read that Bournemouth only had one shot at goal.

Both of those things are true. We were outplayed in every area but our defensive line held relatively firm. Even their goal was a long-range shot (exploiting the fact both our DMs were poor). But in midfield and in wide areas they dominated us completely with plenty of players left to surround and isolate Lukaku.

Our only real chances were set-pieces or Bolasie's occasional cross squeezed in from between two Bournemouth defenders.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 25, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
I didn't see the game so I read a report on the BBC website. They wrote that it was a thoroughly deserved victory and that Everton were outplayed.

When I saw the stats I was surprised to read that Bournemouth only had one shot at goal.

We were outplayed by them in terms of they diluted our attack after they scored and limited us to the odd snap shot or header, but depending on how you see it you could argue we could have scored 3 maybe even 4 goals.

Lukakus header in the first few minutes was kept out by an excellent fingertip save.
Barkley had a free header that and completely missed the target.
Valencia had an excellent chance in front of an open goal and completely miskicked it (or kneed it).
Also Bolasie should have really hit the target when he had a good shot from some good link up play, but it went over.

4 chances there that should have at least ended with 1 or 2 goals.

I do think that we were a bit unlucky tbh, some terrible individual performances from Barry, Barkley, Mirallas and Deulofeu (even a below par performer from Gueye) has probably just caused a bit of an over reaction from some people.

I'm confident we will still beat Palace next week.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 25, 2016, 10:45:18 PM
We've got a nice game to bounce back with on Friday.

You don't want to be playing one of the big boys then have two defeats on the bounce.

He's still learning about the players. It will take him a few months to know who's good enough and who isn't

Don't know about that. A game against a team the Goodison crowd think we have a right to win against. I can see one of those games where the crowd sit quietly waiting for us to be three up by half-time and becoming increasingly frustrated while we struggle to break them down. First booed pass seventeen minutes.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on September 25, 2016, 11:13:35 PM
Bournemouth were simply better and deserved to win.  Williams, Coleman, Oviedo, Mirallas, Barkley, Barry, Gana, Bolasie, Del, Valencia... were all below par ranging to utter shite; that's pretty much the entire side!

Forget and move on; that was simply a bad game.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 25, 2016, 11:38:03 PM
It’s been a week when you can be forgiven for thinking little has changed from the last God knows how many years. A tepid performance and home defeat against lower league opposition in the early stages of the League Cup followed by defeat against one of the smaller teams in the league.
The feeling is familiar; we still can’t cope with expectation. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 26, 2016, 01:35:25 AM
Bournemouth were simply better and deserved to win.  Williams, Coleman, Oviedo, Mirallas, Barkley, Barry, Gana, Bolasie, Del, Valencia... were all below par ranging to utter shite; that's pretty much the entire side!

Forget and move on; that was simply a bad game.

Glad I missed it after that v Norwich. Bad Evertonian me. Just when you get out they pull you back in again, ha.