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Title: New World Cup Format
Post by: Redartin on January 10, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38565246

What you think?
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Major Clanger on January 10, 2017, 07:58:32 PM
Even though we might benefit from it, I think it's an awful idea. 32 was more than enough, the tournament was very straightforward too.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Optimistic Blue on January 10, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
Would this not also stretch the resources of the host country, putting the possibility even further out of reach for countries that are not either a global super power or rich oil barons? x
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 10, 2017, 09:03:55 PM


No doubt the 16 groups of 3 will be seeded/fixed so the bigger countries are pretty much guaranteed a place in the next round. Looking forward to enthralling groups such as Brazil, Uzbekistan and Tahiti
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2017, 10:27:09 PM
It's a fucking stupid idea, Fifa is stupid, the people in charge are cunts
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: cantoffee on January 10, 2017, 11:42:37 PM
It's awful.

Obviously this helps Canada potentially qualify but I still think it's a load of old shite. All about money, way too many teams now.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Gumpinio on January 10, 2017, 11:57:20 PM


No doubt the 16 groups of 3 will be seeded/fixed so the bigger countries are pretty much guaranteed a place in the next round. Looking forward to enthralling groups such as Brazil, Uzbekistan and Tahiti

But if England were drawn in that group they'd make a pigs ear of it
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Optimistic Blue on January 11, 2017, 12:04:05 AM


No doubt the 16 groups of 3 will be seeded/fixed so the bigger countries are pretty much guaranteed a place in the next round. Looking forward to enthralling groups such as Brazil, Uzbekistan and Tahiti

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Gash on January 11, 2017, 12:20:58 AM
Scotland will still fuck it up.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: ally2 on January 11, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
The best teams will just rest their best players. There'll end up being some clumsy beef cake from St Kitts whose claim to fame will be that he 'did' Neymar.
Title: New World Cup Format
Post by: ally2 on January 11, 2017, 01:14:23 AM
Also they haven't agreed the format yet. They just agreed to expand the number of teams. So now there will another course of meetings where they all sit down and go "right so how is this going to work then?"!
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2017, 01:21:19 AM
I'm into it. Love it when the smaller sides are made up to be mixing it up with the usual lot of drama queens. Highlight of 2016 was the gobs on the England players/fans when Iceland did them.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Goaljira on January 11, 2017, 01:23:13 AM
16 extra teams is probably another 180 stickers added to the already expensive to complete Panini album.

Won't someone think of the sticker collectors!
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2017, 01:24:17 AM
... and it's unlikely that we won't see any decent games out of it. Talking about a few goat farmers having the time of their lives playing in a tourney is going to ruin it is bollocks.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Redartin on January 11, 2017, 02:37:38 AM
I think it's great for third tier countries and their fans who only qualify for tournaments once in a blue moon. There was a buzz last summer, not only at the Euros, but back home in Wales and both sides of Ireland, and possibly Hungary @Major Clanger (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=181). Teams who always qualify may not understand that lift a country can get during tournaments.
Obviously it's a money thing, but the same countries are going to be in the semi-finals/finals, but with 32 in the knock out stages there are one or two possible upsets.
I can understand English fans reluctance as it could lead to far more Iceland debacles.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: hill135 on January 11, 2017, 03:10:05 AM
16 extra teams is probably another 180 stickers added to the already expensive to complete Panini album.

Won't someone think of the sticker collectors!

Saw this earlier

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895081_1612189965463275_3539946233181362086_n.jpg?oh=6b76f91b1e2b51189aa47df36e7c3156&oe=5920EDDC)
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: toffee_scot on January 11, 2017, 03:25:01 AM
I'm slowly warming to the idea even though for a while I thought a 32 team tournament should be the maximum. We already have quite a few qualifying spots for Europe although a few more wouldn't be a bad thing (increasing Scotland's odds of qualifying from 3,000/1 to 2,000/1) plus it would be good to see more representation from teams from Africa, Asia, North America plus I guess they could give New Zealand Oceania one guaranteed qualifying spot.

The 3 team group format seems very weird and I'm not sure I like the idea of certain teams only getting to play 2 games before getting knocked out, but then most will qualify for the knockout stages. We might see teams going more for it as they know one win could be enough for qualification and you might get a few surprise teams (a bit like Iceland and Wales in the Euros) going quite a distance.

It's a global competition and if it can be implemented properly then it could add more drama and excitement.

Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: velimski on January 11, 2017, 03:32:22 AM
I quite like it.

The tournament will still take as long as the current format (32 days), and the winner will still need to play the same amount of games to lift the cup (7).

They're are also proposing to do away with draws in the group stage. Instead, any game ending in a draw will go to penalties, so there will be a definitive winner for every game.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: irishtoffee on January 11, 2017, 03:59:50 AM
The only problem I have with it is that if there's only 3 teams in a group then you could end up with a lot of teams tied on points and goal difference and end up flicking a coin. More incidences of 2 teams knowing a draw will put them both through as well as there'll only be one group game at a time. I think that's why they're debating penalties in the event of drawn games
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Simon Paul on January 11, 2017, 04:38:44 AM
maybe qualifying for one world cup automatically wasn't enough for Qatar so they bunged a few extra quid in the envelope to get into the 2026 one as well?
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Shogun on January 11, 2017, 05:03:13 AM
Can't wait for Uganda vs Romania.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Redartin on January 11, 2017, 05:40:35 AM
Can't wait for Uganda vs Romania.

Both teams to score?
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Jamokachi on January 11, 2017, 07:00:23 AM
Yea, even though there's more of a chance seeing Wales qualify for future tournaments I can't help but feel this completely devalues the finals. All about the cash though, isn't it.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Eddie on January 11, 2017, 03:34:48 PM
Worth 1bn to FIFA. There you go.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: TSGun on January 11, 2017, 06:55:21 PM
Soon enough there'll be all 196 countries with no qualifying.

Makes for a nice even 49 groups of 4.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 11, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
It's awful.

Obviously this helps Canada potentially qualify but I still think it's a load of old shite. All about money, way too many teams now.

Its the men's world cup mate. Think they'll notice if we play the women?

Looking forward to England v Canada.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 12, 2017, 01:52:33 PM
Just going to be more shit games. Of course there will be upsets, but only a handful. Unless it's a team you actively follow, the group stages will be far less interesting to watch, with even less heavyweight clashes. It'll only be at the business end of the competition that you see the big teams competing with each other, and probably less often than they used to.

I'm surprised there's even any debate on his thread as I thought there was near universal agreement that the Euros last year were shite, directly because of the increase in teams entering.

There's no good reason for why doing the same for the World Cup won't be equally damaging.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 06:18:46 PM
Where's 2026 likely to be held, the USA?
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 06:42:25 PM
Where's 2026 likely to be held, the USA?

Wherever radiation levels will be acceptable.
Title: Re: New World Cup Format
Post by: ally2 on January 15, 2017, 07:25:57 PM
With so many games I think its a real possibility that the games will end up being shared amongst broadcasters which would be a tragedy but so long as they make more money out it they won't give a shit.