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Title: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: NewsBot on January 11, 2017, 11:48:12 PM
Everton agree Belfodil deal

Everton are reportedly close to sealing a deal to bring Algerian striker Ishak Belfodil for around £10m from Standard Liege.

Source: Everton agree Belfodil deal (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/01/everton-agree-belfodil-deal/)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Tinga on January 11, 2017, 11:54:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wJzFHMT.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 11, 2017, 11:56:56 PM
Belfodil done.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: pedrotheblue on January 12, 2017, 12:08:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wJzFHMT.gif)

There might have been similar faces around Leicester when they signed their first Algerian.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Gumpinio on January 12, 2017, 12:14:09 AM
He only joined the club in the summer and has had a nomadic career including spells with Lyon, Bologna, Parma, Inter Milan, Livorno and Baniyas in the United Arab Emirates.

I am concerned he has been at so many clubs and no one has kept him around for long
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: pjk on January 12, 2017, 12:22:05 AM
Nice free kick like.



<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Belfodil free kick earlier this season. pic.twitter.com/RGmW6cOax1 (https://t.co/RGmW6cOax1)</p>&mdash; Nick (@Lord_Hibbert) January 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Lord_Hibbert/status/819222738950909952)
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Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 12, 2017, 12:22:51 AM
Sounds exactly like the type of player we need.

Plays between the lines, holds it up, brings others into play, good in the air and can get a cheeky goal.

Good age as well.

Happy with this.

Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Cozzie on January 12, 2017, 12:40:15 AM
Wasent keen at first bit I am sorta coming round to the idea of this.

Like people have said, not every player has to be a world beater. This seems like the type of player that Koeman has described he needs and Walsh has gone and identified him.

This is the type of player that will allow Koeman to play more of the style he wants.

Sometimes players are bought in to help the system.

He seems more of a second striker in the mould of Naismith/Cahill and will be more of the link up for Lukaku.

Happy with this now.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: ally2 on January 12, 2017, 12:41:09 AM
Sounds good to me too.

Not a fan of the Walsh cliche/North African player preconceptions though.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 12, 2017, 12:43:14 AM
A Belfodil sounds like some sort of nuskool insult like gopping spaff or whatever it was the other day.

"You fucking Belfodil"
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Brownie on January 12, 2017, 12:44:44 AM
Sounds a bit similar to the Gabbiadini guy. But cheaper
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Escla on January 12, 2017, 12:46:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wJzFHMT.gif)

How fortunate we are to have supporters that know more than Walsh and Koeman together, why we don't let such supporters have the final say god only knows.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 12:49:14 AM
Strike rate is worrying -- 26 goals in 136 league games, with 11 of those coming in the UAE. Yes, I am sure he has subbed on in a lot of those games, and yes he has never really had a chance to settle anywhere since he is always moving (which is itself worrying), but that is a truly poor strike rate for someone branded as a striker (even if he does play as more of a second striker). Can't say I find this signing inspiring at all. Will just have to hope that Walsh and Co. know what they are doing!
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Tinga on January 12, 2017, 12:49:28 AM
How fortunate we are to have supporters that know more than Walsh and Koeman together, why we don't let such supporters have the final say god only knows.

Wind it in you boring cretin. It's a joke.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 12, 2017, 12:49:50 AM
Will he be our first weird shirt number player?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Escla on January 12, 2017, 12:50:38 AM
Wind it in you boring cretin. It's a joke.

Piss off you cretin.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Tinga on January 12, 2017, 12:53:09 AM
Piss off you cretin.

You're a towel.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Escla on January 12, 2017, 01:10:24 AM
Rather that than a spaff rag ! Thanks for coming by rhe way .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: burkey17 on January 12, 2017, 01:11:32 AM
Might not be costing the so called sum of 10/10.5m according to Belgian outlet?
Who knows?
http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 12, 2017, 01:32:50 AM
He looks like Mido.

Hope he doesn't play like him.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: plumber on January 12, 2017, 01:35:18 AM
Might not be costing the so called sum of 10/10.5m according to Belgian outlet?
Who knows?
http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/
This looks bizarre and mysterious anyway.
 He has extended his deal with Standard on January 4th  apparently. Why our transfer committee couldn't contact him before and take him for peanuts while he was in the last half year of his deal?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 01:49:14 AM
He looks shit, fuck off Walsh etc...
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 01:59:39 AM
Great site, lads.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 12, 2017, 02:07:44 AM
Rather that than a spaff rag ! Thanks for coming by rhe way .

Behave you pair of Belfodils
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: christiffa25 on January 12, 2017, 02:08:19 AM
He looks shit, fuck off Walsh etc...

He nearly made the Algerian squad for the Africa cup of nations.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 12, 2017, 02:10:17 AM
I hope we k ow whay we're doing cos he doesn't even look good on Youtube and it's against shit defenders.
I've never hoped to be more wrong.... but they must have seen something in him?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 12, 2017, 02:13:45 AM
Suppose we need someone to replace Niasse.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: t2487 on January 12, 2017, 02:18:13 AM
Hilarious you lot. When Arouna Kone is our back up striker we're in no position to question potential incomings.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: christiffa25 on January 12, 2017, 02:20:57 AM
Hilarious you lot. When Arouna Kone is our back up striker we're in no position to question potential incomings.

Yes we are....

I''m gonna hazard a guess kone is/was better.

I think it's more comparable to wonder if this guy is any better than niasse!
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 02:21:48 AM
Hilarious you lot. When Arouna Kone is our back up striker we're in no position to question potential incomings.

Nothing wrong with commenting on incoming players -- as long as we give him a fair shake once he is here. What the hell else are we supposed to be doing on an Everton forum?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Bluedylan on January 12, 2017, 02:26:42 AM
Intrigued by this one. Looking forward to seeing him play.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 02:35:50 AM
At worst, he'll fill the gaping void left by the departure of Niasse.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Risky on January 12, 2017, 02:37:27 AM
Intrigued by this one. Looking forward to seeing him play.

Same.  I can't say I've ever seen him play so I'm not going to judge him, but I'm sure that Koeman / Walsh or whoever have seen something worth taking a chance on.  They're not going to buy him for a laugh, or if he's worse than Kone or whatever are they?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Bluedylan on January 12, 2017, 02:41:32 AM
Same.  I can't say I've ever seen him play so I'm not going to judge him, but I'm sure that Koeman / Walsh or whoever have seen something worth taking a chance on.  They're not going to buy him for a laugh, or if he's worse than Kone or whatever are they?

People are constantly asking for Walsh to stop going after Prem targets and pull a couple of unusual ones out to prove his worth. Then he does and people go 'sounds shit' without having watched him play. As you say, give him a fair chance, watch how he plays and judge based on that.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goughie on January 12, 2017, 02:41:45 AM
Strange move this-bit of a journeyman already...and only 24. He's had 2 free transfers...im worried by him! If its £10m...some saying £4m now...id rather spend the £10m on Berahino. And he isnt even in Algerias ACON squad.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 12, 2017, 02:51:43 AM
10 in 21 isn't a bad return, especially if contributing in other ways. But it looked like it was 6 headers, a free kick, a penalty and a couple of bungles, including 1 where he kicks into the bar and back into his face at first attempt from 2 yards.

Sounds like he's a hard working player, who plays as a target man off the front. He also runs like he has borrowed someone elses legs.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 12, 2017, 02:55:24 AM
I think Berahino would be great for us.. attitude issue? yet we're linked with Depay???
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Redartin on January 12, 2017, 02:55:33 AM
We never ever really replaced Traore, did we?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: ally2 on January 12, 2017, 03:03:56 AM
Some nice goals in there and looks very strong. About time. We are a bunch of right pussies.

Love the near post header.

Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 03:05:48 AM
Strange move this-bit of a journeyman already...and only 24. He's had 2 free transfers...im worried by him! If its £10m...some saying £4m now...id rather spend the £10m on Berahino. And he isnt even in Algerias ACON squad.

Neither was Mahrez, when Leicester signed him.

And one of his 2 free transfers was due to Parma going bust, hardly his fault.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: chang on January 12, 2017, 03:58:55 AM
Bollocks to being a defender with Rom and Belfodil bearing down on you ...... both can leave the pens to Bainsy mind.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: sam of the south on January 12, 2017, 04:05:04 AM
Some nice goals in there and looks very strong. About time. We are a bunch of right pussies.

Love the near post header.



Yeah, some good ones there, and that header was indeed the tits 🙌

They were 4-5 years ago, though, so I hope he's got some confidence back after a nomadic and nondescript time of it since this video.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 04:22:06 AM
People are constantly asking for Walsh to stop going after Prem targets and pull a couple of unusual ones out to prove his worth. Then he does and people go 'sounds shit' without having watched him play. As you say, give him a fair chance, watch how he plays and judge based on that.

I am hopeful that he turns good, and that he is just the sort of Walsh buy that we were asking for. However, his strike rate is pretty abysmal, and it is a reasonable cause for concern. We will have to see. I have some faith in Walsh and Co., and am hopeful he will turn out to be a solid buy. Just not as hopeful as I would like to be.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 04:43:14 AM
Yeah, some good ones there, and that header was indeed the tits 🙌

They were 4-5 years ago, though, so I hope he's got some confidence back after a nomadic and nondescript time of it since this video.

He seems to score a lot of headers. He scored several for Parma, and if you check out the video of his goals this season, like half or more of them are headers too. That is certainly a positive. I feel like we don't convert from set pieces as often as we should. Part of that is down to poor delivery, but I also think we don't really have that many great headers of the ball.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 12, 2017, 04:45:20 AM
Strange move this-bit of a journeyman already...and only 24. He's had 2 free transfers...im worried by him! If its £10m...some saying £4m now...id rather spend the £10m on Berahino. And he isnt even in Algerias ACON squad.

Berahino is a Grade A twat.

I'd sooner risk paying 10m for this lad than get Berahino on a free.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: christiffa25 on January 12, 2017, 05:01:20 AM
Berahino is a Grade A twat.

I'd sooner risk paying 10m for this lad than get Berahino on a free.

Why because he fell out with the grade A tits at West Brom.

Everyone has a breaking point. His came 3 clubs, 3 transfer windows and 3 big offers down the line. 
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: BlueBeagle on January 12, 2017, 05:09:58 AM
His came 3 clubs, 3 transfer windows and 3 big offers down the line.

No it didn't, it came after the 1st club when he practically down tools for months.

Let's not forget he's not even that good of a player. Averages roughly 10 goals per season (based on his 3 seasons in the PL where he has played 30 games or more in a season) which for a front man is shite.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Running Blue on January 12, 2017, 05:11:38 AM
I am hopeful that he turns good, and that he is just the sort of Walsh buy that we were asking for. However, his strike rate is pretty abysmal, and it is a reasonable cause for concern. We will have to see. I have some faith in Walsh and Co., and am hopeful he will turn out to be a solid buy. Just not as hopeful as I would like to be.

I just read a great book - "Inverting the Pyramid."  It talks about the evolution of football tactics since the 1800s.  I honestly believe Koeman is a real "connoisseur" of the sport and it is not inconceivable that he is looking at bringing in someone who can play a certain role without having a great strike rate.  It could be that he sees a role for a forward who will do a better job of bringing our other attacking assets (Bolassie, Mirallas, Lennon, Baines, Coleman, Lookman, etc.) into the match than Lukaku does. 

The book actually gave Christophe Dugarry as an example of a striker who wasn't a very prolific goal scorer.  I think he was at about 1 in 6 matches which really is not very good.  Yet, he was good enough to play for Milan, Barcelona, Marseille, etc.  He won the European Cup, the World Cup, and La Liga. 

Anyway, I don't really disagree with you... I'm just trying to give Koeman the benefit of the doubt here and recommending a very interesting book.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 12, 2017, 05:16:57 AM
Lads, we haven't bought him for his goalscoring record. We've bought him because he has a certain set of attributes that we sorely lack.

If he can chip in with a fair few then sound. But he's there as a target man to bring others into play and take the pressure off Lukaku.

Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 12, 2017, 05:17:51 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4110862/Everton-s-January-spending-spree-set-continue-Standard-Liege-accept-10m-bid-striker-Ishak-Belfodil.html

Interesting to see Koeman has made the final decision to go for this lad over berahino
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Big Al on January 12, 2017, 05:38:02 AM

https://twitter.com/dominicking_dm/status/819316500372877316
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Confucius on January 12, 2017, 05:56:07 AM
I will add him to my list as soon as he signs. Can't wait.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 12, 2017, 06:25:18 AM
The ball wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high over blocks and walls,
When all at once we saw as a crowd,
A flying blue Belfodil
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ross on January 12, 2017, 06:55:06 AM
Lads, we haven't bought him for his goalscoring record. We've bought him because he has a certain set of attributes that we sorely lack.

If he can chip in with a fair few then sound. But he's there as a target man to bring others into play and take the pressure off Lukaku.



.


Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on January 12, 2017, 06:58:29 AM
....including 1 where he kicks into the bar and back into his face at first attempt from 2 yards.


Haha! He sounds a keeper! 
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 09:59:36 AM
Lads, we haven't bought him for his goalscoring record. We've bought him because he has a certain set of attributes that we sorely lack.

If he can chip in with a fair few then sound. But he's there as a target man to bring others into play and take the pressure off Lukaku.



I understand that, but as a second striker, he still needs to pick up goals. If he starts in place of Ross Barkley, he needs to score somewhat regularly to justify his selection, because Ross still is our second leading scorer over the last two years (sad as that may be), and he is actually in the top 15 for chances created in all of Europe. Also, who is supposed to lead the line if Lukaku goes down injured? If it is him, then he needs to score -- plain and simple. Now this changes, of course, changes if we bring in another striker this window who is more goal-scoring oriented.

I am not saying he needs to be a 1 in every 2 games sort of player. 1 in 4 or maybe even 5 would be sufficient, but over the course of his career, in lesser leagues, he has not even hit that lowly mark. That is a slightly pause for concern. 

I am not writing him off. I have confidence in Walsh. It just means I am cautiously optimistic rather than really excited to have him join. What is wrong with that?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: blue1948 on January 12, 2017, 10:57:15 AM
No it didn't, it came after the 1st club when he practically down tools for months.

Let's not forget he's not even that good of a player. Averages roughly 10 goals per season (based on his 3 seasons in the PL where he has played 30 games or more in a season) which for a front man is shite.
How long have you watched Everton ? ten goals a season isn't shite  well not if you are blue
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 12, 2017, 12:53:22 PM
How long have you watched Everton ? ten goals a season isn't shite  well not if you are blue

Got to agree with that. There are like, what, 15 players in the prem capable of scoring 10 goals in the league each season on a consistent basis. Not going to check, but I bet the number of players that have scored over 10 goals in the league for each of the last three seasons is under 10.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: GLewis on January 12, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
4 1/2 year deal according to l'equipe...

http://m.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Ishak-belfodil-part-a-everton/767911
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: everton1952 on January 12, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
24 years old and we will be his 7th or 8th club. Don't expect a lot based on that nomadic record. Cheap though.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Hawkandro on January 12, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
Bringing him in for his work ethic more than his goals; our 'Shane Long' type player?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 12, 2017, 02:44:49 PM
I'm setting myself low expectations for this bloke so I'm not disappointed.

Given his apparent strengths I can see how he makes sense in terms of support to Lukaku and Koemans pressing tactic but I was kinda hoping for more in terms of creativity and goals from our newly recruited attacking players.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Trowel on January 12, 2017, 02:48:29 PM
I imagine that, rather than prioritising one area at a time, Koeman is ticking off all his requirements as and when a suitable player is available - this seems to tick the "player we can bring off the bench in the 75th min to go Hail Mary" requirement.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 03:24:52 PM
I'm excited about this, basically because he's unknown, I reckon we've got a possible cult hero on our hands here.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: jonni on January 12, 2017, 03:59:10 PM
I'm excited about this, basically because he's unknown, I reckon we've got a possible cult hero on our hands here.
I miss Denis Stracqualursi too.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: sam of the south on January 12, 2017, 04:01:37 PM
I'm excited about this, basically because he's unknown, I reckon we've got a possible cult hero on our hands here.

Yeah, he's Madar, Strac, Traore wildcard/cult hero/awkward/tall/powerful/a-bit-shit-but-oddly-effective hybrid, hopefully 👍
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 12, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
I'm excited about this, basically because he's unknown, I reckon we've got a possible cult hero on our hands here.

@Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) needs a new hero

He's had a Straq shaped hole in his life for a few years now....
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 04:13:11 PM
I miss Denis Stracqualursi too.

I don't, because he was shite
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 12, 2017, 04:18:16 PM
Someone else to aimlessly run round for £10m . We just get better by the day .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Hawkandro on January 12, 2017, 04:22:02 PM
Happy happy joy joy.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 12, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
Someone else to aimlessly run round for £10m . We just get better by the day .


Fucking turn it in you biff
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: toffee_scot on January 12, 2017, 04:47:27 PM
Don't really know much about this player at all but sounds like he could be used very much as a partner for Lukaku or a general target man who can bring more of our attacking players further up the pitch. If he can score a few goals then that would be a bonus.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Jamokachi on January 12, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
Someone else to aimlessly run round for £10m . We just get better by the day .


Oh shut up
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: djws1788 on January 12, 2017, 05:07:07 PM
some of those goals are almost Lukaku-esque in that clip. looks a lot better than any of our other options currently.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 12, 2017, 05:23:45 PM
Fucking turn it in you biff

lolol
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
"Hi Ishak, do you mind if we call you Straq?"
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: brap2 on January 12, 2017, 05:35:58 PM
Re: goal scoring record, he typically does not (never) play up top for standard L.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 12, 2017, 05:48:46 PM
Fucking turn it in you biff

Biff ? Fucking grow up you moron .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 05:53:46 PM
(http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Have+this+_6a98e05af6709f8f19f9d99c7c4df8f5.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 05:54:03 PM
Double post, my bad
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 12, 2017, 06:07:06 PM
(http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Have+this+_6a98e05af6709f8f19f9d99c7c4df8f5.gif)

That is actually relatively amusing .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
That is actually relatively amusing .

Loving your roundhouse kick
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 12, 2017, 06:31:19 PM
Loving your roundhouse kick

Enough .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Django on January 12, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Happy with this signing tbh, providing it doesn't fall through.

Remember him signing for Inter and being highly rated. Looks like he has the build to adapt to the prem.

Nomadic record like, but couldn't do much about Parma being liquidated. Looks like he's gotten his career back on track at Liege and he'll no doubt be eager to prove himself at the highest level.

Best of luck to him. Might be an idea to get behind the players instead of writing them off before they've even signed.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Toddacelli on January 12, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
(http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Have+this+_6a98e05af6709f8f19f9d99c7c4df8f5.gif)

 lolol
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Lxxx on January 12, 2017, 07:06:27 PM
Someone else to aimlessly run round for £10m . We just get better by the day .


Have you ever thought of changing teams?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: plumber on January 12, 2017, 07:28:28 PM
Very "walshy" but bizarre transfer.
Quote
Belfodil was offered for free last summer to Palermo, Udinese and Sampdoria, and for a 300k wages. Rejected. Today, sold to Everton for 12mÄ
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 12, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
Am I right in thinking he was on a one year deal due to expire in the summer but signed a new one before we approached him on a bosman?

Seems very inefficient to me.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ross on January 12, 2017, 07:47:46 PM
Very "walshy" but bizarre transfer.

I hope that Walsh has had absolutely zero input into this to be honest.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: kramer0 on January 12, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
Am I right in thinking he was on a one year deal due to expire in the summer but signed a new one before we approached him on a bosman?

Seems very inefficient to me.

There was a report yesterday that the true amount is only a third of what's being widely reported and that Standard are inflating the fee through the press to save face with their supporters/playing staff since Belfodil is an important player. If you believe that, and it's kind of hard to, it looks a lot better for us overall.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/)

Whatever happens, I think this fee is going to be undisclosed.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Lxxx on January 12, 2017, 07:58:03 PM
There was a report yesterday that the true amount is only a third of what's being widely reported and that Standard are inflating the fee through the press to save face with their supporters/playing staff since Belfodil is an important player. If you believe that, and it's kind of hard to, it looks a lot better for us overall.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/ (http://sportwitness.co.uk/claims-belgium-everton-paid-e4m-new-striker-rather-e12m/)

Whatever happens, I think this fee is going to be undisclosed.

This makes a lot more sense than £10m on a player on a one year deal, which was signed just before we bought him to avoid him leaving on a Bosman free abroad.
A few bob to the player to keep schtum, a few quid to the club who would have lost him for nothing otherwise and a nice story to placate the fans. This way everyone gets a few quid and we get a bargain.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: plumber on January 12, 2017, 08:06:15 PM
If you believe that, and it's kind of hard to, it looks a lot better for us overall.

It is hard, because it would make us look like massively overpaying country yokels. Not good considering future transfers.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 12, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Seems a strange one, but probably due to unusual contract or something like that. If it was only a year deal, maybe there was something to stop him signing for someone else in january, as otherwise, you'd potentially only have an interested player for 6 months on a 12 month deal.

So club then had to sign new agreement and we had to grease the palms sufficiently for club to do so. But was important player for club who didn't want to be seen to sell a strong player for relatively little when he had signed not long ago. But as short term deal, they aren't going to get a huge deal for a player in only window they could sell.

Player gets some extra cash to keep quiet about departure and the terms.

From a blue tinted and trading point of view, we've swapped him for Niasse and probably save over 50% on wages.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Lxxx on January 12, 2017, 08:11:53 PM
I think the days of us paying over £10m on strikers with no real record to speak of are over after the Niasse debacle. This, coupled with Walsh's reputation for finding bargains, means the truth probably lies somewhere around the details in Kramer's article rather than the fee reported by Liege.

The fact he has the same agent as Slimani, who Walsh will have dealt with to set up the deal for him going to Leicester, means he probably got tipped the wink about Belfodil's contract situation so everyone gets a few bob and he comes here for another Walsh Algerian bargain.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: kramer0 on January 12, 2017, 08:48:17 PM
This thread is worth a read if you're still curious about the player:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Everton/comments/5nipn7/standard_liege_fan_here_with_some_details_about/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Everton/comments/5nipn7/standard_liege_fan_here_with_some_details_about/)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Big Al on January 12, 2017, 09:06:56 PM
This thread is worth a read if you're still curious about the player:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Everton/comments/5nipn7/standard_liege_fan_here_with_some_details_about/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Everton/comments/5nipn7/standard_liege_fan_here_with_some_details_about/)


Some interesting points about him and some weird ones " his eyes look like he's always about to cry"
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: plumber on January 12, 2017, 09:26:38 PM
By the way, his name means "donkey" in Russian.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 09:28:09 PM
By the way, his name means "donkey" in Russian.

Eeee orrr' to do fine then

I'm sorry
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: sam of the south on January 12, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
By the way, his name means "donkey" in Russian.

Lucky lad, with his big donkey Belfodil swinging in the wind
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 09:42:14 PM

Some interesting points about him and some weird ones " his eyes look like he's always about to cry"

Its his constant dreaming of the career he could have had that cause it.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 09:42:58 PM
Eeee orrr' to do fine then

I'm sorry

Could have gone with 'He'll do fine ee'orr then...'.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 12, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
Could have gone with 'He'll do fine ee'orr then...'.

That would just made me sound silly.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 12, 2017, 10:11:27 PM
Have you ever thought of changing teams?

Fuck me after all the shit i have sat through over the years I am not giving up now . Just like to express my Everton induced apathy . I think Roberto drained my positivity . I am sure I will get going again when the team does but for now it is pretty substandard fare aside from Schneiderlin .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Major Clanger on January 12, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
By the way, his name means "donkey" in Russian.

I was thinking it sounded a bit like a preparation to cure indigestion and trapped wind in children.

Edit: I've just realised you meant Ishak. :)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: brittcop1 on January 12, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
Bringing him in for his work ethic more than his goals; our 'Shane Long' type player?
That's exactly what I thought...Someone who can chase after and harass tiring defenders.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: cantoffee on January 12, 2017, 10:44:50 PM
My only concern with that thread is that he says he's not good at penalties but that we have Lukaku and Mirallas so don't worry!
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 10:58:50 PM
Watch him get injured.

https://twitter.com/HLNinEngeland/status/819587251130761217

Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: GLewis on January 12, 2017, 10:59:51 PM
Can't be that close if he's playing in a game, especially a friendly.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 11:00:32 PM
And Konstantinos Laifis sounds like a stage name for a Ladbible type comedian character.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 12, 2017, 11:13:06 PM
Have to say I'm not really sold on this guy. Not assed either way.

It can't be too much to ask to find a player who does the dirty work and makes the ball stick but also knows where the net is, can it?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 12, 2017, 11:28:34 PM
Friendly being shown here:
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: kramer0 on January 12, 2017, 11:51:52 PM
It can't be too much to ask to find a player who does the dirty work and makes the ball stick but also knows where the net is, can it?

How many players in world football can you think of that fit this description?

Don't worry about them being feasible transfer targets for Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 13, 2017, 12:07:28 AM
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170112_02670616 (http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20170112_02670616)

Quote from: Belgian newsamibob
Belfodil away at Standard? He is simply the basis for a friendly match

An unannounced surprise at Standard: Belfodil, who is in his final hours at Standard, was Thursday night at the start of the friendly match against Borussia Dortmund. However, today there would be an official announcement about his transfer to Everton.

Coach Jankovic has Belfodil given a place in the friendly match against Borussia Dortmund. He takes the place of Edmilson, who still suffer from the thigh. Or maybe it's a birthday gift, the Algerian has 25 today.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 13, 2017, 01:11:31 AM
How many players in world football can you think of that fit this description?

Don't worry about them being feasible transfer targets for Everton.

I'm not talking mega-goals, but 7,8,10 a season or so.

I don't think these players are that rare. Even that carthorse Andy Carroll knows where the goal is.

We keep seeing in Lukaku threads that he needs to improve his hold up play and his physicality generally as people feel these should be pre-requisites for strikers of a certain size. I'm not that keen on the Heskey-style 'big lump' forward who never scores but 'makes the team better' because ultimately you have to sacrifice something to accommodate them in the lineup (in this instance probably Barkley to the bench).
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: kramer0 on January 13, 2017, 02:01:24 AM
I'm not talking mega-goals, but 7,8,10 a season or so.

I don't think these players are that rare. Even that carthorse Andy Carroll knows where the goal is.

We keep seeing in Lukaku threads that he needs to improve his hold up play and his physicality generally as people feel these should be pre-requisites for strikers of a certain size. I'm not that keen on the Heskey-style 'big lump' forward who never scores but 'makes the team better' because ultimately you have to sacrifice something to accommodate them in the lineup (in this instance probably Barkley to the bench).

Ah, fair enough.

Given those numbers, I don't think Belfodil is terribly far off what you're talking about. When he's been used properly, he's pretty much hit those targets -- 8 goals for Parma in Serie A and 6 goals in his half-season at Standard. Sure, it's not particularly inspiring that he went into the wilderness for a few years but that sort of thing can happen to a young player. If he gets minutes at Everton, I think his goal return will be somewhere in that 7-10 goal range (over a full season's worth of games, of course). Koeman's teams play a lot of crosses and Belfodil appears to be pretty good on headed attempts. That alone should be worth a few extra goals.

I don't think anyone is arguing with your second point. A big lump that's only there to win flick-ons and hold the ball is too big of a sacrifice in today's game, especially given how much the quality of play in the PL has improved over the past five years. The reason I think Belfodil will ultimately be okay is because he's not just a one-dimensional workhorse. He's also a good dribbler and, according to some Standard supporters, is very involved in their build-up play as a passer. I watched a little bit of the Standard/Dortmund friendly today and, in the instances where this guy was able to get on the ball (Dortmund suffocated most of the meaningful space on the pitch for the majority of the match), he really does glide with it. Not that he's a particularly brilliant technician or anything but I wouldn't write off that aspect of his game.

As for Belfodil potentially keeping Barkley out of the team... I would be slightly concerned about this but it does seem like Koeman is making an effort to find an alternative role for him. Ross has been asked to play a bit wider during some of our recent matches and he's actually looked quite good. Under Martinez, it seemed like Barkley was asked, or maybe just forced by the opposing team, to hug the touchline and try to run at players, which he wasn't very good at with the sideline as an extra defender. Under Koeman, he's played the wide position more like a Pienaar/Osman, drifting into the half-spaces and making use of all of the options that he has in that area. I think (and maybe this is a bit wishful) that Belfodil is more likely to keep Lennon/Mirallas/Valencia out of the team.

I'm not 100% sold on the move either (there's a very high risk of failure for this guy) but I'm very intrigued by the prospect of what he might bring. Part of this is me imagining us becoming a supercharged version of Moyes' last Everton side, with a superior midfield (Gana/Schneiderlin instead of Neville/Osman/Gibson), Belfodil playing a Fellaini-esque #10 (with a little extra flair and hopefully less petulance), Barkley as a Pienaar-type wide player (minus the foul-winning ability/telepathy but with added dribbling/shooting powers), and Lukaku as a better forward than Anichebe, Jelavic, and Vellios combined. Maybe it's a bit ridiculous to hope for all that but I don't think it's totally unreasonable.

(The only problem with the aforementioned  team is that the backline looks awful compared to what it was in 2012-13, minus the much improved Coleman.)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: plumber on January 13, 2017, 02:09:23 AM
Almost scored here.
He's probably not as bad as I expected. And faster than looks in Youtube videos.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 13, 2017, 02:15:11 AM
I understand the disappointment at sacrificing Barkley's place in the team, but I don't think he can justify such a pivotal position. Anyway, it sounds like a perfect odd couple tag team who's paths will rarely meet, aerial threat or dance contest, neither can play 90 mins.

PL fans have never liked front men like Heskey, but he was a pioneer, now loads of teams demand graft above goals and link up play as key. His movement into channels and his creating space for others like a false 9 would have been much more appreciated today. He played like a man who never really wanted to play upfront.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 13, 2017, 02:29:22 AM
Can't believe we can't find that type of player in the UK. Bringing players in from abroad just adds to the overall gamble that is every transfer.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 13, 2017, 02:30:08 AM
Ah, fair enough.

Given those numbers, I don't think Belfodil is terribly far off what you're talking about. When he's been used properly, he's pretty much hit those targets -- 8 goals for Parma in Serie A and 6 goals in his half-season at Standard. Sure, it's not particularly inspiring that he went into the wilderness for a few years but that sort of thing can happen to a young player. If he gets minutes at Everton, I think his goal return will be somewhere in that 7-10 goal range (over a full season's worth of games, of course). Koeman's teams play a lot of crosses and Belfodil appears to be pretty good on headed attempts. That alone should be worth a few extra goals.

I don't think anyone is arguing with your second point. A big lump that's only there to win flick-ons and hold the ball is too big of a sacrifice in today's game, especially given how much the quality of play in the PL has improved over the past five years. The reason I think Belfodil will ultimately be okay is because he's not just a one-dimensional workhorse. He's also a good dribbler and, according to some Standard supporters, is very involved in their build-up play as a passer. I watched a little bit of the Standard/Dortmund friendly today and, in the instances where this guy was able to get on the ball (Dortmund suffocated most of the meaningful space on the pitch for the majority of the match), he really does glide with it. Not that he's a particularly brilliant technician or anything but I wouldn't write off that aspect of his game.

As for Belfodil potentially keeping Barkley out of the team... I would be slightly concerned about this but it does seem like Koeman is making an effort to find an alternative role for him. Ross has been asked to play a bit wider during some of our recent matches and he's actually looked quite good. Under Martinez, it seemed like Barkley was asked, or maybe just forced by the opposing team, to hug the touchline and try to run at players, which he wasn't very good at with the sideline as an extra defender. Under Koeman, he's played the wide position more like a Pienaar/Osman, drifting into the half-spaces and making use of all of the options that he has in that area. I think (and maybe this is a bit wishful) that Belfodil is more likely to keep Lennon/Mirallas/Valencia out of the team.

I'm not 100% sold on the move either (there's a very high risk of failure for this guy) but I'm very intrigued by the prospect of what he might bring. Part of this is me imagining us becoming a supercharged version of Moyes' last Everton side, with a superior midfield (Gana/Schneiderlin instead of Neville/Osman/Gibson), Belfodil playing a Fellaini-esque #10 (with a little extra flair and hopefully less petulance), Barkley as a Pienaar-type wide player (minus the foul-winning ability/telepathy but with added dribbling/shooting powers), and Lukaku as a better forward than Anichebe, Jelavic, and Vellios combined. Maybe it's a bit ridiculous to hope for all that but I don't think it's totally unreasonable.

(The only problem with the aforementioned  team is that the backline looks awful compared to what it was in 2012-13, minus the much improved Coleman.)

If he he can chip in with 8 - 15 goals in all competitions, that would be plently for me. Any more, and you would expect him to be on the move elsewhere. But if he comes here, he does need to score some goals. Even Heskey hit 10 in all comps fairly regularly, and average over 10 goals a season for over a decade.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Running Blue on January 13, 2017, 03:42:00 AM
If he he can chip in with 8 - 15 goals in all competitions, that would be plently for me. Any more, and you would expect him to be on the move elsewhere. But if he comes here, he does need to score some goals. Even Heskey hit 10 in all comps fairly regularly, and average over 10 goals a season for over a decade.

Fifteen goals would have put him level with Defoe and Ighalo last year, one behind Giroud, two behind Mahrez, and three behind Lukaku.  That constitutes a little more than "chipping in."
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 13, 2017, 07:45:28 AM
Fifteen goals would have put him level with Defoe and Ighalo last year, one behind Giroud, two behind Mahrez, and three behind Lukaku.  That constitutes a little more than "chipping in."

I put a range for a reason. You can't just focus on the highest number. Moreover, I very specifically specified "all competitions." 15 goals in the league is very different than 15 goals in all comps, especially when you are talking about players in Europe (which I expect to be the case for us next season). Giroud, for example, scored 16 in the league last season but 24 in all competitions. Whereas Lukaku hit 20 in all comps two years ago but only 10 in the league.

I will admit, however, that if he gets to 15 goals in all comps, he would be doing more than just "chipping in." That would be a great haul. I should have limited my range to 8-12 in all comps.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 13, 2017, 02:53:29 PM
Fuck me we have him scoring 15 already . That will make him one of the best strikers we have had other than Lukaku and a one season Yak . Turn it in for fuck sake . This is no more than a bang average Moyes like 'he can do a job' signing . 
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Silas on January 13, 2017, 03:14:08 PM
Can't believe we can't find that type of player in the UK. Bringing players in from abroad just adds to the overall gamble that is every transfer.

You can but you can triple the price immediately
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 13, 2017, 03:17:18 PM
Fuck me we have him scoring 15 already . That will make him one of the best strikers we have had other than Lukaku and a one season Yak . Turn it in for fuck sake . This is no more than a bang average Moyes like 'he can do a job' signing . 

I don't think anyone has said they expect him to score 15 goals. Not a single person in this thread.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: howard1334 on January 13, 2017, 03:22:04 PM
Double post.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Lxxx on January 13, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
Let's wait until he signs first lads.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 13, 2017, 04:35:08 PM
I don't think anyone has said they expect him to score 15 goals. Not a single person in this thread.

If he scores ....................... you get my point .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: dazfrancis on January 13, 2017, 09:14:03 PM
I'm glad we are signing someone who looks like they will be playing as Lukaku's forward partner. He needs more support generally
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 13, 2017, 09:41:08 PM
Can't believe we can't find that type of player in the UK. Bringing players in from abroad just adds to the overall gamble that is every transfer.
Is that you Farage?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Goaljira on January 13, 2017, 11:17:48 PM
Is that you Farage?

Well he couldn't find a wife from the UK.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 14, 2017, 12:36:19 AM
Medical on Monday
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Robber Rodwell on January 16, 2017, 07:09:40 AM
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/who-ishak-belfodil-meet-evertons-unpredictable-new-attacker-once-compared-ibra

Good article.  It does appear that the lad may have an attitude problem though.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 16, 2017, 07:17:08 AM
https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-14/en-wat-nu-everton-twijfelt-of-het-ishak-belfodil-wel-moet-aantrekken (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-14/en-wat-nu-everton-twijfelt-of-het-ishak-belfodil-wel-moet-aantrekken)

Quote from: Belgium rag
And what now? Everton doubt whether the Belfodil, it must attract

The deal appeared already in the bag, but until further notice Ishak Belfodil is still a player of Standard. The 25 year old Algerian seemed on his way to Everton, but apparently they doubt now attract the male of 12 million euros.

It's been two days an agreement at club level, but let's official news about the transfer of Belfodil coming. That is strange and shows that something more is going on.

According to Het Laatste Nieuws not everyone at Everton sure Belfodil attract the right choice. Moreover, there are also negative scouting reports on the Algerian. One more reason to doubt the player.
Entourage Belfodil believe in happy ending

So it will remain to be seen what the side at Everton will go. The Toffees go through with the deal or draw they still back in extremis? When the entourage of Belfodil they believe in a good outcome, and they assume that the attacker soon a player of Everton is
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Brownie on January 16, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-14/en-wat-nu-everton-twijfelt-of-het-ishak-belfodil-wel-moet-aantrekken (https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nieuws/lees/2017-01-14/en-wat-nu-everton-twijfelt-of-het-ishak-belfodil-wel-moet-aantrekken)


I bet everyone reads that last line in their heads in a Yoda voice
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: blargins on January 16, 2017, 09:23:02 AM
lol I did
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: blargins on January 16, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Not fussed about this at all. Move on.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Hawkandro on January 16, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
We should be going for Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: sam of the south on January 16, 2017, 03:10:24 PM
I bet everyone reads that last line in their heads in a Yoda voice

Haha, I didn't initially, but I did after your prompting  ;D
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: everton1952 on January 16, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
As he never stays anywhere for long, we should only offer him a 1 year contract, then when he buggers off,  there are no hard feelings.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 16, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
We signed this cat yet?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Robioto on January 16, 2017, 10:57:36 PM
There are rumours circulating that we may not be interested anymore as other more favourable targets are showing more interest in joining us, so we may go for them instead. Sources are just twitter mutterings however.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Gash on January 16, 2017, 11:47:03 PM
As he never stays anywhere for long, we should only offer him a 1 year contract, then when he buggers off,  there are no hard feelings.

Or we could offer him a longer contract and then if he wants to bugger off after a year we get some actual money back for him.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Robioto on January 18, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Belfodil deal set to be abandoned
Phil McNulty BBC Sport chief football writer at Old Trafford
Posted at 9:49

Everton's £10.4m deal for Standard Liege striker Ishak Belfodil has stalled and may now be abandoned.

The move was close to completion at the end of last week and the 24-year-old was awaiting clearance to fly to Merseyside from Standard's warm weather training camp in Spain to complete the formalities and undergo a medical.

Belfodil, however, has been frustrated as reports in Belgium suggested the move has become tangled up in financial complications and is now likely to be scrapped completely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/38250935
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 18, 2017, 04:38:02 PM
Dodged a bullet .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2017, 04:40:12 PM
There are other fish in the sea I would think, so move on.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
Written off by a few on here without knowing anything about him, boss fans us
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: ally2 on January 18, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
I prefer to judge a player on whether he's got a shit hair cut
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Robioto on January 18, 2017, 05:13:07 PM
I prefer to judge a player on whether he's got a shit hair cut

Tom Davies is fucking shite then.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 18, 2017, 05:16:31 PM
Dodged a bullet .


You seen a lot of him? What type of player is he
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ross on January 18, 2017, 05:21:51 PM
You seen a lot of him? What type of player is he

Nomadic, questionable attitude with a strike rate worse than Victor Anichebes.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/who-ishak-belfodil-meet-evertons-unpredictable-new-attacker-once-compared-ibra?utm_m_medium=t&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2017, 05:36:13 PM
To read between the lines;

We managed to negotiate a bargain deal with a few quid going to all parties resulting in a relatively risk-free signing.
More fingers got placed in the pie meaning it's no longer a bargain purchase anymore and for the overall amount having to be paid it's not worth the risk.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 18, 2017, 05:43:46 PM
Nomadic, questionable attitude with a strike rate worse than Victor Anichebes.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/who-ishak-belfodil-meet-evertons-unpredictable-new-attacker-once-compared-ibra?utm_m_medium=t&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social



I thought that article made him sound quite an exciting signing. Personally I'd rather we got the players Walsh and koeman want rather than didnt. Least the 1s I've never seen play.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 18, 2017, 05:44:26 PM
Tom Davies is fucking shite then.

Get out.

He has glorious hair.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2017, 05:48:05 PM
Get out.

He has glorious hair.

His hair smooth and silky, like a lions mane.

It's pretty obvious he uses Timotei shampoo, sometimes maybe even Vosene for that just washed smell
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 18, 2017, 05:49:46 PM
His hair smooth and silky, like a lions mane.

It's pretty obvious he uses Timotei shampoo, sometimes maybe even Vosene for that just washed smell

Got a bit of a Tom Davies going on at the moment.

Toni and guy sea salt spray is great to get that wavy beach look.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Bobbyconrad on January 18, 2017, 05:53:59 PM
From the (admittedly limited) youtube clips I have seen it seems he could play the one up top role Pelle played for Koeman at Southampton, good in the air and can hold up the ball,  but is younger and therefore a bit more resale value. Who honestly knew much about pelle when he came over, and whilst he not the greatest, he can do a successful job. I think this is what Koeman and walsh are looking for incase anything happens with Rom or he wants to rest him.

You seen a lot of him? What type of player is he
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Hawkandro on January 18, 2017, 06:36:24 PM
Belfodil deal set to be abandoned
Phil McNulty BBC Sport chief football writer at Old Trafford
Posted at 9:49

Everton's £10.4m deal for Standard Liege striker Ishak Belfodil has stalled and may now be abandoned.

The move was close to completion at the end of last week and the 24-year-old was awaiting clearance to fly to Merseyside from Standard's warm weather training camp in Spain to complete the formalities and undergo a medical.

Belfodil, however, has been frustrated as reports in Belgium suggested the move has become tangled up in financial complications and is now likely to be scrapped completely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/38250935

We don't have manage to pick 'em, don't we...
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Toddacelli on January 18, 2017, 06:49:19 PM
Got a bit of a Tom Davies going on at the moment.

Toni and guy sea salt spray is great to get that wavy beach look.

Sadly, I'm more of an 'eggshell blonde' these days.....

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Egghead_from_Batman_66.jpg)

(Can't remember who I stole that off - but suspect it might have been @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) !)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: pjk on January 18, 2017, 06:51:01 PM
I was looking forward to seeing if it was a gamble, or they actually saw some tangible quality at a decent price in this fella. Looks like it's not to be then. Agents have ruined players lives before and it's bound to happen in the future. Problem is, we might actually lose out if he carries on his recent improvement.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: blue1948 on January 18, 2017, 08:56:17 PM
It should eventually come out but the Dutch press saying he is 4m and the press here saying 10.4m  ,something is amiss
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ross on January 18, 2017, 11:31:58 PM
I thought that article made him sound quite an exciting signing. Personally I'd rather we got the players Walsh and koeman want rather than didnt. Least the 1s I've never seen play.

Maybe they're not on the same page with this lad?

Quote
Earlier on Wednesday we covered a report from Belgiumís DH which said Ishak Belfodil to Everton is well and truly dead.

The playerís entourage was said to be annoyed when Everton brought other intermediaries into the deal, which stalled things. DH said there was no disagreement between Ronald Koeman and Steve Walsh on the player.

Well, Het Niuewsblad disagree, with the newspaper saying Steve Walsh wanted the transfer, and continued to get Everton to work on it, but it was Koeman who wasnít sure.

The Belgian newspaper claim Koeman had Ďnegative signalsí about the playerís character, but Walsh pushed on anyway, and it all led to the deal seemingly being agreed, then stalling, and then falling to pieces.

Thereís disagreement everywhere on this. The Belgian newspapers canít agree on what Walsh and Koeman think, and there were even earlier claims Everton were getting the player for Ä4m instead of Ä12m.

Thereís something not quite right about the whole mini-saga, and maybe that will become clearer in the future.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/disagreement-claimed-steve-walsh-ronald-koeman-disagreement-everywhere/
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Running Blue on January 19, 2017, 12:10:04 AM
Get out.

He has glorious hair.

So does Donald Trump.  How much do you think he would cost?
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: TheRam on January 19, 2017, 12:18:40 AM
So does Donald Trump.  How much do you think he would cost?

You have very questionable taste in hairstyles
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on January 19, 2017, 12:46:55 AM
I wonder if Standard had an option to extend contract that they activated, I think that ties a lot of details together more neatly than the alternatives. It being nearly done, then talk of a new contract then nothing since. The sudden playing in the friendly, the price being quoted as higher at Standard's end. They don't seem keen to sell him for whatever they can get, they have been determined to keep him or get a good price if he does go.

We probably had an inside scoop via the agent about his contract situation, as agent main objective is to get his player improved deal activated or a move. And now it's about whether we wanted him that much that we pay more like the going rate for him.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: hill135 on January 20, 2017, 04:09:24 PM
Ron says: "Belfodil was one of the players on our list and we had the opportunity to buy him but we took the decision not to sign himĒ.

Basically Ron thought he was a  bit shit then.

Bullet dodged I suspect
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: toffee_scot on January 20, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
I suppose, the good thing is that even though we have a director of football in place, the manager can still decide against a transfer. It's not like, for example Chelsea where Mourinho pretty much had Shevchenko forced on him.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Toddacelli on January 20, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
I suppose, the good thing is that even though we have a director of football in place, the manager can still decide against a transfer. It's not like, for example Chelsea where Mourinho pretty much had Shevchenko forced on him.

That's one way to seal the deal...
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Bally on January 20, 2017, 06:55:51 PM
Sadly, I'm more of an 'eggshell blonde' these days.....

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Egghead_from_Batman_66.jpg)

(Can't remember who I stole that off - but suspect it might have been @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) !)
That is correct my friend, I got it from my sister as that what she says to describe me to people, hahaha
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2017, 07:30:56 PM
I don't suppose we will here much of Belfodil .
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Toddacelli on January 20, 2017, 07:33:42 PM
I don't suppose we will here much of Belfodil .

He needed to pass his medical by the deadline but someone sent him to our old training ground.

He was Belfoild
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 10, 2017, 08:20:13 PM
Daniel Van Buyten, who was working as a transfer adviser for Standard Liege at the time of Evertonís bid for Ishak Belfodil has explained what really happened when the transfer broke down in January - and how it has effected Belfodilís form since.

ďAnd when I tell you they are a bunch of liars[Officials at Standard] Bruno Venanzi went on TV and said there wasnít an official offer for Belfodil? He also promised at the start of the show to tell the truth. Look. (takes out his iPhone) It canít be any clearer, itís an email from Everton. They offered Ä10m (2 x Ä5m), and an easy Ä2m bonus. Whatís more official than that?

From the moment people allowed Belfodil to leave the training camp and negotiate with Everton, from the moment where they found a financial agreement with him, you canít force him to stay at Standard. Youíve lost him. Itís dead. Thatís when my disagreement with them started.

You had to do the things in order: find an agreement between clubs, then let Belfodil go over there to negotiate his deal. I didnít want to absolutely sell him, but when you can get Ä12m for a player who arrived on a free, and when youíve promised him you wonít stand in his way, you have to follow through.Ē
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Toddacelli on May 11, 2017, 05:27:18 PM
(https://media.tenor.co/images/e986f3cda38e718a181ce57cfad77fe4/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Ridge on May 11, 2017, 09:02:30 PM
It's a strange one, but its been fairly obvious since it happened that Standard were the ones playing games.

My assumption was that deal was agreed in principle and then Standard either couldn't get desired replacement or changed their minds when they realised options. I think most likely may be that they changed position as they had no obligation to sell to a team that hadn't qualified for europe or were only contracted to listen to offers for £10m/£12m when they looked closer at details after discussions.

When they asked for more money and we refused, they then took up option for extra year. But it seems fairly unlikely they would want discussions to get as far as they did, if they expected him to stay from outset. Just ask for what they eventually did, up front, then he doesn't have his hopes of a move dashed, they either get money desired or sign extension anyway and have a more motivated player.
Title: Re: [News]Everton agree Belfodil deal
Post by: Cozzie on May 11, 2017, 09:04:37 PM
Hows he done since?