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Title: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 19, 2010, 02:25:59 AM
Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Heitinga Baines

Coleman Osman Fellaini Pienaar

Yakubu Beckford

Then play them again against Fulham IF they win. Big IF at the moment  :eh:

As much as I'm tired of Osman on the wing I'm getting about as equally fed up with Arteta in the middle. See what Osman can do in the middle and give him a go against Fulham if he plays well.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 19, 2010, 02:29:12 AM
I'd forgotten about this game. Which has now become a huge banana skin.

I can see Mucha getting a game. Other than that I haven't clue what team Moyes will put out.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 19, 2010, 02:33:46 AM
I daren't even think about this at the mo...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 19, 2010, 02:38:24 AM
I think the priority has to be finding a winning team at the moment. Mucha could get a go though but we need to settle on what our best and most balanced team is.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 19, 2010, 02:45:15 AM
Would like to see Barkley make his debut, he was a surprise inclusion on the bench today
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Verm on September 19, 2010, 03:08:03 AM
Travelling for this, will be rather pissed off if we come away with anything less than a large win.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 19, 2010, 03:10:14 AM
Gueye has got to start he can't do any worse than osman
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Verm on September 19, 2010, 03:13:15 AM
------------------------Mucha---------------------
Coleman---Heitinga----Distin--------Baines
------------------------Neville----------------------
---------------Arteta----------Fellaini-----------
--Bilyaletdinov--------------------Gueye------
-----------------------Beckford--------------------

Bench;  Howard  Hibbert  Jagielka  Osman  Barkley  Pienaar  Yakubu
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Mistertonblue on September 19, 2010, 03:20:48 AM
Firstly we need to start keeping clean sheets.
Our midfield bar Pienaar is creating zero chances at the moment and looking at todays line up I believe that our entire midfield bar Pienaar is playing out of position. Arteta needs to be further up the field and Fellaini needs to be deeper, Osman must never play RM again only CM and Heitinga needs to play CB or stay on the bench.
Beckford and Yakubu should be given a run out together, Beckford could do Yakubu's running and the Yak could hold the ball up in the manner that Beckford can't.
The basic point is that we've got to start putting players in their BEST positions and stop p!ssing about with Moyes favourites being shoehorned into the team in positions that are to the detriment of the team.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 19, 2010, 03:22:28 AM
Firstly we need to start keeping clean sheets.
Our midfield bar Pienaar is creating zero chances at the moment and looking at todays line up I believe that our entire midfield bar Pienaar is playing out of position. Arteta needs to be further up the field and Fellaini needs to be deeper, Osman must never play RM again only CM and Heitinga needs to play CB or stay on the bench.
Beckford and Yakubu should be given a run out together, Beckford could do Yakubu's running and the Yak could hold the ball up in the manner that Beckford can't.
The basic point is that we've got to start putting players in their BEST positions and stop p!ssing about with Moyes favourites being shoehorned into the team in positions that are to the detriment of the team.

Great first post.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Mistertonblue on September 19, 2010, 03:28:11 AM
Thanks pal. Been meaning to join the family and today's frustration was the catalyst.
Today was typical Everton following on from the high of 2 goals in injury time the previous game to such an abject performance the next.
Life as an Evertonian is never straightforward.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: kunal32 on September 19, 2010, 04:37:02 AM
Confidence must be at a real low right now and will hit a new low after this game.Another 1-0 defeat i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 19, 2010, 06:07:06 AM
Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Heitinga Baines

Coleman Osman Fellaini Pienaar

Yakubu Beckford

Then play them again against Fulham IF they win. Big IF at the moment  :eh:

As much as I'm tired of Osman on the wing I'm getting about as equally fed up with Arteta in the middle. See what Osman can do in the middle and give him a go against Fulham if he plays well.

fuck sake did you not see enough of his shit today, give young Ross Barkley a shot at least
he might bring something different to the team.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: sharpattack on September 19, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
Beckford will play and score as that is the level of opposition he could score against
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on September 19, 2010, 05:49:16 PM
Beckford will score as soon as we stop pumping balls over his head
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: rochey_efc on September 19, 2010, 06:26:21 PM
I think its become a waste of time predicting the squad that moyes is going to put out. There are always obvious ways we should play and we don't.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 19, 2010, 06:27:29 PM
I think its become a waste of time predicting the squad that moyes is going to put out. There are always obvious ways we should play and we don't.  :headbang:

This
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Silas on September 19, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
                          Mucha

Neville       Heitinga Jagielka         Baines

Bily           Osman  Fellaini           Gueye

                      Yak
                         
                         Beckford

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 20, 2010, 03:41:06 AM
Howard

Coleman
Heitinga
Distin
Baines

Bily
Fellaini
Osman
Neville
Pienaar

Yak
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: fortune9 on September 20, 2010, 05:34:07 AM
i normally like to give a few players ago in games like this but after the newcastle result i want to really go for this cup

                                                               howard

     hibbert                           jags                                    heitinga                      baines

    coleman                      arteta                                       fellaini                       pienaar


                                                            bily/ yak

                                                          beckford

or with becks and yak up front.... i know jags and arteta and that should be dropped but i would play them an really go for it, and play same team as fulham
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Thom on September 20, 2010, 05:12:06 PM
Can't see Moyes changing things too much. We need a win so he'll put his strongest team out.

-------------------Howard--------------
Neville---Jagielka--Distin---Baines
Bily----Fellaini----Arteta----Pienaar
----------------Osman----------
-------------Yakubu-----------

Bench: Mucha, Coleman, Heitinga, Beckford, Gueye, Cahill, Barkley

3-1 Everton. Yakubu x2 and Fellaini.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Ridge on September 20, 2010, 10:16:27 PM
Why not really hammer them?

Brentford are shite, yes?

So why not honour our history and play the 2-3-5 formation?

Mucha

Jags - Heitinga

Neville - Fellaini - Baines

Coleman - Cahill - Yakubu - Arteta - Pienaar

That team would smash the granny out of Brentford any day of the week

We'd win something like 10-3

Hahaha!
This, except Hibbert in for Arteta.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Verm on September 21, 2010, 02:34:28 PM
Anyone else going?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 21, 2010, 03:21:59 PM
Well, being pedantic, It's Brentford v Everton.

I don't really see - after last Saturday's shite - why we'll suddenly play well, so although I'm hoping for 0-10, 1-1 would be a more reasonable prediction.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_cup/9009797.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_cup/9009797.stm)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: DanDan on September 21, 2010, 04:26:53 PM
Anyone else going?


Yeah im going tonight
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Verm on September 21, 2010, 05:42:56 PM
About to begin my long journey to Brentford, hopefully next time I'm on here I'll be in a good mood.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: .Rimbo. on September 21, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
He can't afford to rest too many players, especially considering we're still leaking goals and he needs to sort us out as a unit.

Howard

Hibbert Heitinga Jagielka Baines

Fellaini Arteta

Bilyaletdinov      Pienaar      Gueye

Beckford
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: johnj on September 21, 2010, 11:29:09 PM
Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Heitinga Baines

Coleman Osman Fellaini Pienaar

Yakubu Beckford

Then play them again against Fulham IF they win. Big IF at the moment  :eh:

As much as I'm tired of Osman on the wing I'm getting about as equally fed up with Arteta in the middle. See what Osman can do in the middle and give him a go against Fulham if he plays well.

Why is everyone on here being so risk averse with their suggestions? I reckon we should start Gueye, Barkley, Bily, Coleman, Yak, Beckford and Neville, and rest Pienaar, Fellaini and Distin (drop in his case) and make multiple changes at half time if we are chasing the game. If we lose we can comfort ourselves that we didnt play our strongest team and it was Moyes fault.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 21, 2010, 11:37:56 PM
Why is everyone on here being so risk averse with their suggestions? I reckon we should start Gueye, Barkley, Bily, Coleman, Yak, Beckford and Neville, and rest Pienaar, Fellaini and Distin (drop in his case) and make multiple changes at half time if we are chasing the game. If we lose we can comfort ourselves that we didnt play our strongest team and it was Moyes fault.

Why dont we start with a good side go ahead then bring the others on, i really dont think we wanna ever be chasing a game and chucking so called big names on
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: johnj on September 21, 2010, 11:44:58 PM
If our 'reserves' can't beat a third tier team then we can buy Brentford's team at a suitable discount to what ours cost.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 21, 2010, 11:47:27 PM
I think its become a waste of time predicting the squad that moyes is going to put out. There are always obvious ways we should play and we don't.  :headbang:

It has always been a waste of time.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 21, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
If our 'reserves' can't beat a third tier team then we can buy Brentford's team at a suitable discount to what ours cost.

Brilliant
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 22, 2010, 12:21:54 AM
Any word on the lineup yet?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gibbsy76 on September 22, 2010, 01:09:58 AM
Any word on the lineup yet?

Can't find it anywhere else, but this is what that Everton Facebook page tells me it is.  Trust it at your own peril though...

Mucha, Baines, Jagielka, Distin, Neville, Bilyaletdinov, Gueye, Osman, Yakubu, Coleman, Fellaini.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Derek on September 22, 2010, 01:09:58 AM
 Everton: Mucha, Baines, Jagielka, Bilyaletdinov, Distin, Neville, Gueye, OSman, Yakubu, Coleman, Fellaini.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 22, 2010, 01:11:47 AM
Wow I can't make out who's going where.
I assume Coleman at RB, Neville in midfield, Bily & Gueye on the wings?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 01:12:24 AM
billy centre half?!!!!?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 01:14:32 AM
fucking  osman again what the fuck is going on he must have something on moyes.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 01:14:39 AM
I guess Coleman at right back with Neville, Osman and Fellaini in the middle with Bily and Gueye on the wings.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gibbsy76 on September 22, 2010, 01:14:57 AM
Wow I can't make out who's going where.
I assume Coleman at RB, Neville in midfield, Bily & Gueye on the wings?

That's what I figured.  Bit worried about the whole thing...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fynci on September 22, 2010, 01:15:28 AM
Would have liked to have seen two up front, but to be honest it's quite an interesting line-up..... shame a stream will be out of the question?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 01:15:29 AM
1 up front again :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: kunal32 on September 22, 2010, 01:16:00 AM
1 upfront again for fucking crying out loud!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 01:16:10 AM
fucking  osman again what the fuck is going on he must have something on moyes.

Osman is always our best player against lower league teams. He is technically very good, great close control and has fantastic awareness. His big draw backs are speed and physically lacking. Against lower league teams he is so far ahead of them in the head that he is speed isnt an issue and he finds it very easy to run the show.

I imagine he is always first name on the team sheet against lower league teams, he always outshines the likes of Arteta and Pienaar in these games.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: kunal32 on September 22, 2010, 01:16:43 AM
I really really am at the point of fooking giving this shit up!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
howard mustafi arteta pienaar barkley beckford joao silva on bench

is cort on the bench for them carl cort?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: DannyR on September 22, 2010, 01:21:08 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1232z3s.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 01:22:17 AM
The man is a prick
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 01:24:26 AM
Coleman will probably cause them a lot of trouble tonight which is good. I'd assume Neville is in midfield though which i'm not too chuffed about.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 22, 2010, 01:24:37 AM
From bbc

Mucha, Coleman, Distin, Jagielka, Baines, Bilyaletdinov, Neville, Fellaini, Gueye, Osman, Yakubu

Osman in the cahill role? Should be interesting
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: GLewis on September 22, 2010, 01:25:11 AM
I think I'm more fed up with the moaning about 1 up front than the actual formation.

We had 1 up front against Huddersfield and scored 5.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 01:27:00 AM
Osman is always our best player against lower league teams. He is technically very good, great close control and has fantastic awareness. His big draw backs are speed and physically lacking. Against lower league teams he is so far ahead of them in the head that he is speed isnt an issue and he finds it very easy to run the show.

I imagine he is always first name on the team sheet against lower league teams, he always outshines the likes of Arteta and Pienaar in these games.
maybe thats his level thats why he plays well against lower league teams, i just think moyes should have left him
out to night and go 4-4-2 or even give young Barkley  a start we know what osman brings to the team.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 01:27:07 AM
I think I'm more fed up with the moaning about 1 up front than the actual formation.

We had 1 up front against Huddersfield and scored 5.

IF and I mean IF this formation is played well its 3 up front
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ally2 on September 22, 2010, 01:31:46 AM
I think I'm more fed up with the moaning about 1 up front than the actual formation.

We had 1 up front against Huddersfield and scored 5.

Exactly.  Why are so many people hung up about this.  Its not the 80's anymore.  Most teams play one up front and it is not a defensive formation
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 01:32:01 AM
About to begin my long journey to Brentford, hopefully next time I'm on here I'll be in a good mood.

There's a first time for everything.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: plumber on September 22, 2010, 01:32:30 AM
I'm not sure it's 4-5-1. It could be 4-4-2 with Yakubu and Gueye up front, Billy and Coleman on the wings, Osman and Fellaini in the middle and Neville as RB.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: DannyR on September 22, 2010, 01:34:12 AM
There's a first time for everything.
A Zebra never changes his stripes..
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Trowel on September 22, 2010, 01:36:05 AM
Hopefully we'll be able to give Silva and Barkley a run out.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 01:36:43 AM
I'm a bit disappointed to see Osman out wide if that is where he ends up as i thought he deserved a chance in the middle but otherwise the side should be alright.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bryan on September 22, 2010, 01:42:28 AM
Truth is, tonight means nothing as far as the next match goes.  I do not believe for one second that Gueye would start at Craven Cottage if he has a blinder tonight.  Every decent team plays youngsters in these matches to rest their stars.  I do not believe that Moyes has the nerve to actually drop underperforming regulars.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 22, 2010, 01:45:09 AM
Fellaini up front? Fuck's sake...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 01:45:37 AM
How they'll line up. Good source.

Mucha

Neville---Jagielka----Distin
Coleman---------------------------------Baines

Fellaini

Osman------------Bilya

Gueye

Yakubu
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: .Rimbo. on September 22, 2010, 01:47:26 AM
From bbc

Mucha, Coleman, Distin, Jagielka, Baines, Bilyaletdinov, Neville, Fellaini, Gueye, Osman, Yakubu

Osman in the cahill role? Should be interesting

Will probably be Fellaini. Glad to see Coleman given a run out, as well as Bilyaletdinov, Gueye and Yakubu.

Should have played Howard though and tried Heitinga and Jagielka at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 01:50:52 AM
Coleman!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 22, 2010, 01:51:04 AM
Goooooooooooooooalllllll

Coleman!

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 01:52:28 AM
ha ha hibbert must be gutted
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
:)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Derek on September 22, 2010, 01:54:12 AM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 01:55:06 AM
Not such a defensive formation after all.  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: .Rimbo. on September 22, 2010, 01:55:44 AM
Good goal?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bryan on September 22, 2010, 01:59:53 AM
Hell, any goal is a good goal for Everton right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:05:57 AM
How they'll line up. Good source.

Mucha

Neville---Jagielka----Distin
Coleman---------------------------------Baines

Fellaini

Osman------------Bilya

Gueye

Yakubu

Gueye on the left.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 02:10:26 AM
I'm pulling some legs mate :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:17:39 AM
I'm pulling some legs mate :thumbsup:

Sense of humour failure this season!!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Thom on September 22, 2010, 02:18:34 AM
PMSL at everyone moaning about 4-5-1 against a League One side. Sounds like we're playing well so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 02:19:06 AM
So we should. Against a league 1 side.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 02:23:12 AM
So is Coleman playing Def or Mid
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 02:25:32 AM
So is Coleman playing Def or Mid

defence as far as i'm aware
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:25:59 AM
wtf
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 02:26:19 AM
So is Coleman playing Def or Mid

Coleman at RB. Bilyaletdinov playing RM.

And it's now 1-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 02:26:20 AM
Yeh, PMSL at 4-5-1.

Utter shite
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:26:37 AM
osman and billy fuck up
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:27:05 AM
typical. 1-1
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 02:28:03 AM
Why oh why can't we keep a clean sheet?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Derek on September 22, 2010, 02:28:23 AM
Load of crap.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:28:42 AM
anyone else cringing
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 02:29:21 AM
its not just osman and billy..coleman has been skinned and beatin for pace about 5 times from there left winger. and he keeps whippin balls in. and people on here weant him to play RB in the prem.he cant defend against championship sides so no wonder moyes doesnt play him at RB in the prem. either play him RM  or dont play him at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 02:29:36 AM
Why oh why can't we keep a clean sheet?

Because we have a tactically inept negative dullard in charge??
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:30:11 AM
Yeh, PMSL at 4-5-1.

Utter shite

Whats the formation got to do with players giving the ball away in a bad position? We have been in complete control all game, a bad ball and let them in is nothing to do with the way we are set up.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:31:06 AM
Because we have a tactically inept negative dullard in charge??

So why have we been notorious for keeping clean sheets with him in charge? Including our most ever clean sheets in one season 2 years ago?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 02:31:37 AM
Why do I get the feeling we may go out to the hands of Brentford....
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:32:04 AM
its not just osman and billy..coleman has been skinned and beatin for pace about 5 times from there left winger. and he keeps whippin balls in. and people on here weant him to play RB in the prem.he cant defend against championship sides so no wonder moyes doesnt play him at RB in the prem. either play him RM  or dont play him at all.

Yeah heard that he was involved in it after i typed - sorry. Dont think he is a winger tho either
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 02:32:10 AM
Flattering to deceive yet again.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Brentford get another. 
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 02:33:01 AM
Well, if we go out, at least we can focus on the league...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:33:14 AM
sounds like coleman is having a weston at the hands of weston
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:33:29 AM
half time. shocking stuff
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:34:22 AM
Flattering to deceive yet again.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Brentford get another.  

Without an individual error costing us it was 5 minutes away from everyone saying comfortably in front and in control of the game, should have been 2-0 at least. No need to over-react yet, plenty of time and if we play like we did that half again in the second half we will win. Lets not panic before we need to.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Dionysus on September 22, 2010, 02:34:51 AM
Our season starts on Saturday.....
Title: It's actually a saturday!
Post by: Bily No Pace on September 22, 2010, 02:36:35 AM
Our season starts on Saturday.....

...the 8th of January.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 02:36:37 AM
Whats the formation got to do with players giving the ball away in a bad position? We have been in complete control all game, a bad ball and let them in is nothing to do with the way we are set up.

Seem to be doing that a lot lately don't we?  Usually one of his untouchables like Distin or Osman that do it too.

We are giving balls away in bad positions because the team is setup wrong.

Who said that attack was the best form of defence?

Get Beckford on up front with Yak and go for it for once FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 02:37:21 AM
The commentary is making it sound like Jags was at fault for the goal. Should've won the header or something. Was that the case, I missed it.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 02:37:24 AM
tell you the truth if we do go out tonight moyes should get the door
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 02:37:35 AM
Our season starts on Saturday.....
I have heard that too many times in the last month.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:40:02 AM
what position is felli playing? please don't tell me hes playing off the striker again
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 02:40:24 AM
Without an individual error costing us it was 5 minutes away from everyone saying comfortably in front and in control of the game, should have been 2-0 at least. No need to over-react yet, plenty of time and if we play like we did that half again in the second half we will win. Lets not panic before we need to.

Not over-reacting, Rhys. Merely commenting.

We should be well ahead, but we're not. That's flattering to deceive in my book.

I also think we'll win, but the daft mistakes could easily lead to another Brentford goal.

Bily has hardly been involved again, and has made 2 sloppy mistakes which could have cost 2 goals instead of one.

I always keep the faith, but it aint always easy.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 02:42:28 AM
what position is felli playing? please don't tell me hes playing off the striker again

Then I won't tell you anything. He's not been playing too well.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 02:44:14 AM
footballers make mistakes ffs.and speakin of billy you could also say that without billys pass to coleman we wouldnt have scored.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 02:45:59 AM
totally agree, Billy hasn't played to bad to be fair.  But I think if we go out, Moyes should go out too
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 02:47:21 AM
Ideas for subs at this point:
Get Silva or Beckford on up front, push Fellaini back, and bring off Osman, who has been okay but nothing special.
Later, give Barkley his first appearance, and give Fellaini a rest.
For #3, who knows... Maybe the other striker for Yakubu, if he's tiring.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 02:47:56 AM
That'd be a pretty ridiculous reason to end his tenure.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 02:48:52 AM
Seem to be doing that a lot lately don't we?  Usually one of his untouchables like Distin or Osman that do it too.

We are giving balls away in bad positions because the team is setup wrong.

Who said that attack was the best form of defence?

Get Beckford on up front with Yak and go for it for once FFS

Honestly, what is the obsession with 4-4-2?

It is a dead formation, hardly anyone plays it because to be a top team playing 4-4-2 you need 2 centre midfielders that are quick, physical and have bags of energy. Hardly any centre midfielders can dominate a game playing in 4-4-2 these days, you look at Fabregas and he has to play in 4-5-1 to be as effective as he can be.

Why do you think United play 4-5-1 in Europe and against top teams? Chelsea dont play 4-4-2, Arsenal don't. Real Madrid dont, Barca dont. Ac Milan dont, Inter didnt last year. Bayern Munich dont. Brazil dont. Spain dont. I could go on. Nobody good plays 4-4-2 anymore regularly, United play it more than most but even Ferguson knows 4-5-1 is better in a lot of situations. 4-5-1 allows you defend more solidly and get plenty of men forward, more men than when playing 4-4-2 because you can afford to let 1 midfielder sit and have 4 midfielders supporting the attacker. And when you lose the ball it is far easier to get into shape more quickly.

And specifically for us our players suit 4-5-1. Cahill simply isn't effective in 4-4-2, in 4-5-1 he is as good as any attacking midfielder at getting goals. Arteta doesn't have the pace to run the show in 4-4-2. Fellaini maybe able to play it in time because of the power and energy he has but even now 4-5-1 allows him to control the game from deep and let Arteta dictate the ball. Pienaar gets up and down, give him a midfielder less to cover and his lack of would be more apparant.

The formation isn't the problem, we just arent playing well. It has proven to be the best thing for us for a number of years and will prove so this year. We need to find the right balance and get some form, Victor back and on the right, with Yak fully fit and on form. All of a sudden with everyone in a position they should be that formation will see us at the right end of the table, just like the last 4 years it has.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:50:13 AM
whats the betting moyes takes yak off and replaces him with beckford to keep the 4-5-1 formation
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 02:50:23 AM
not really its not just based on this match, its based on all season so far
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 02:50:24 AM
Then I won't tell you anything. He's not been playing too well.


Seriously?  He's playing in an attacking midfield role again?!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 02:51:06 AM
tell you the truth if we do go out tonight moyes should get the door

ok
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 02:51:43 AM

Seriously?  He's playing in an attacking midfield role again?!

He's in the Cahill position.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 02:53:35 AM
we are going to so lose
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:55:29 AM
He's in the Cahill position.

moyes has lost the plot
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 02:55:42 AM
Billy is not a fucking winger, he plays attack mid
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 02:56:54 AM
we are going to so lose

No we won't :)

Beckford to score, Pienaar to score.

It'll finish 1-3.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 02:57:49 AM
there not even on lol
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 02:59:09 AM
Pen to Brentford
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 02:59:17 AM
there not even on lol

There are these magical thigs called substitutions though.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 02:59:23 AM
Here we go....
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 02:59:39 AM
we are somehow getting worse. seem to be under more pressure this half. coleman seems to be as usual, brilliant going forward, shocking defending. same at newcastle. should have been a penalty against him for brining down nolan and he's just given away another one
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 02:59:40 AM
there not even on lol

...yet...

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:00:03 AM
Mucha saved it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:00:24 AM
Thank you, Jan Mucha!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 03:00:37 AM
Saved by Mucha.  Get your arses into gear you lazy twats
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:00:38 AM
Mucha! Nice one :)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:01:18 AM
coleman being ripped a new arse here
well done mucha
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:01:32 AM
This is Moyes, Moyes never makes postive subs
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:01:51 AM
Seems that pen was Mucha do about nothing  :badum:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 22, 2010, 03:02:01 AM
Tar very Mucha!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:02:13 AM
this is embarrassing
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 22, 2010, 03:02:14 AM
Mucha Gracias!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:02:20 AM
Phew...nearly another for Brentford
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:02:27 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 03:02:42 AM
people give ossie loads cos he is playin shite or he mis places a pass. coleman gives away a pen and no one says fukall ..well il lsay it..fuckoff coleman u stupid irish twat. i feel better now
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:03:00 AM
christ brentford just hit the post
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:03:28 AM
Pick up the pace, guys. Need to turn the match around.

Another good cross by Gueye, and Bily's effort is saved.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 03:03:38 AM
whats the betting moyes takes yak off and replaces him with beckford to keep the 4-5-1 formation

I doubt Yak will last night minutes, so there isn't much else he can do.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:04:18 AM
I think most people accept that Coleman shouldn't be playing right back in the league but he is certainly worth trying on the wing.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:04:48 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.

True.

Hibbert may not be a world-beater going forward, but he knows his job.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:05:07 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.

been saying this for a long long time now
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:05:34 AM
arteta beckford and pienaar being warmed up
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 22, 2010, 03:05:35 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.

I feel like dishing out a fellaini style 'told you so' coming on...........to some people on here..........

Hes clearly a defensive liability at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:05:49 AM
Coleman is not a good defender yet.  Actually everton not a good team yet lol
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 03:05:57 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.
But he got man of the match against Spurs.  :whistle:

He could easily have cost us a penalty on Saturday as well. Looked a great challenge a full speed, but should have probably been a pen.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:06:34 AM
this is the second time that Coleman has been ripped apart by a league one winger anyway I really don't think the lad is a defender.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:06:48 AM
Maybe people will realise that Coleman isnt the finished article and shouldnt be starting premier league games, beaten many times by a league 1 winger and obviously made a rash decision for the penalty. It will take time for him.

Is he our best RW option though..? Should he be starting premier league games on the right wing?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:08:25 AM
pienaar and arteta on for gueye and billy
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 03:08:34 AM
Can't be any worse there than Ossie has been
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:08:45 AM
Yikes we need to do something here.

Gueye off for Pienaar
Billy off for Arteta

So I'm guessing Osman back out wide?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bigl1cks on September 22, 2010, 03:08:54 AM
Why is Coleman getting ripped anyway?Isnt he playing right wing today? Where is Neville?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:09:01 AM
this is the second time that Coleman has been ripped apart by a league one winger anyway I really don't think the lad is a defender.

He definitely is, he is just inexperienced. His attacking is best coming from defence because he is at his best when he is overlapping the winger and gets at their defence when they are going backwards. He just needs to learn defensively and get experience when he can. If he develops to be a decent defender then he will be a top right back. We just have to be patient with him and not expect too much too soon.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:09:09 AM
Looks like Osman will shift to RW with Arteta coming on, and a straight swap with Gueye off and Pienaar on.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bigl1cks on September 22, 2010, 03:10:10 AM
Just realised, is neville in midfield?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:10:48 AM
Looks like Osman will shift to RW with Arteta coming on, and a straight swap with Gueye off and Pienaar on.

 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 03:10:58 AM
Does this go to extra time and pens if it's a draw?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 03:11:12 AM
fucking embarrasing this performance
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:11:48 AM
Does this go to extra time and pens if it's a draw?

Si senor.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:11:59 AM
Does this go to extra time and pens if it's a draw?

yes mate
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 03:12:03 AM
Does this go to extra time and pens if it's a draw?

yeah
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:12:08 AM
Yes, Neville as the holding midfielder. Baines-Distin-Jagielka-Coleman across the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:14:20 AM
thats the winning formation like saturday ossie onthe wing :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:14:33 AM
Coleman seems to be our biggest weakness and biggest threat at the same time :)

For all the flack Coleman is getting for his defending (and rightfully so tonight) where would we be without him in terms of creating chances?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:14:58 AM
Less than 20 minutes left, and we're looking vulnerable. Need to get a goal and escape this one 2-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:16:55 AM
with the 11 now moyes should switch a few platers around.
       mucha  
nev jag dist baines
cole fell osman pien
          art
          yak.
or he could bring on beckford for osman. these are the type of teams he's used to scoring against
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:18:03 AM
with the 11 now moyes should switch a few platers around.
       mucha 
nev jag dist baines
cole fell osman pien
          art
          yak.
or he could bring on beckford for osman. these are the type of teams he's used to scoring against

agreed
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:18:06 AM
this is shite shite shite
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:18:48 AM
we are shit, first team out bar cahill and jonny and we cant beat a side that are bottom of league 1 get another bloody striker on man
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:18:56 AM
Shit. It just won't go in for the Yak.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Blueney-tunes on September 22, 2010, 03:19:30 AM
fuckoff coleman u stupid irish twat. i feel better now

Youre a sad little loser... iceman gary.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 22, 2010, 03:21:25 AM
with the 11 now moyes should switch a few platers around.
       mucha 
nev jag dist baines
cole fell osman pien
          art
          yak.
or he could bring on beckford for osman. these are the type of teams he's used to scoring against

Good shout on the formation change.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 03:21:58 AM
fukoff idiot. people give other players shit and not coleman for givin away a pen so i thought i would give him shit.now stfu nugget and go and give your head a wobble
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:23:58 AM
with the 11 now moyes should switch a few platers around.
       mucha  
nev jag dist baines
cole fell osman pien
          art
          yak.
or he could bring on beckford for osman. these are the type of teams he's used to scoring against
have you got moyes' mobile no. give him a ring
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:24:54 AM
Arteta's free kicks are terrrrrrible at the moment. Give them all to Baines until he sorts it out.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:25:44 AM
fukoff idiot. people give other players shit and not coleman for givin away a pen so i thought i would give him shit.now stfu nugget and go and give your head a wobble

 :snigger:

How are your birds doing, Gary? More interesting than this shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:25:50 AM
I'd get Beckford on he'll be in his element against these.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:28:45 AM
I'd get Beckford on he'll be in his element against these.

not on this service he wouldnt
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 03:28:53 AM
Just joined in - you seriosuly telling me we're struggling against Brentford and Osman's playing again? My days..
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:32:52 AM
Just joined in - you seriosuly telling me we're struggling against Brentford and Osman's playing again? My days..

nope were winning 4 0 really osman got left in liverpool
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 03:35:06 AM
Extra time,  Marvellous
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:35:15 AM
Any bets for extra time?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 03:36:10 AM
If we lose this I wonder what Moyes will say...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:36:42 AM
Just joined in - you seriosuly telling me we're struggling against Brentford and Osman's playing again? My days..

Osman's not the reason we're struggling, at least not the only nor the primary reason. Jagielka's been suspect, missing a few headers. Coleman, while he's been good going forward, gave away the penalty and has been beaten several other times. I haven't heard much of Neville's name being called. Fellaini's been fairly poor all-around, fouling, missing crosses, and being out of position (granted, he is out of position, but that's another story). Yakubu's been a touch slow as he regains match fitness.

Also, Brentford's keeper has been outstanding. To extra time we go.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:36:48 AM
Time for Beckford?

And reshape as suggested earlier...

Neville Jagielka Distin Baines

Fellaini

Coleman Osman Pienaar

Beckford Yak

sub off Arteta :) he's been poor.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:37:32 AM
If we lose this I wonder what Moyes will say...
we werent good enough but credit to brentford for making it a real cup tie?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 03:38:24 AM
we werent good enough but credit to brentford for making it a real cup tie?

"I'm disappointed"
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:38:45 AM
Just joined in - you seriosuly telling me we're struggling against Brentford and Osman's playing again? My days..
the quick update is that the game has mirrored every coleman debate thats ever been on this forum. scored early brilliant going forward and managed to get absolutely roasted in defence and gave away a penalty that mucha saved. performance improved when arteta and pienaar came on but we still only have one striker on the pitch. there is a radio stream on the go but its hit and miss( a bit like everton)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 03:39:34 AM
If we lose this I wonder what Moyes will say...

I wish the new manager of Everton FC all the best.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:40:11 AM
Osman's not the reason we're struggling, at least not the only nor the primary reason. Jagielka's been suspect, missing a few headers. Coleman, while he's been good going forward, gave away the penalty and has been beaten several other times. I haven't heard much of Neville's name being called. Fellaini's been fairly poor all-around, fouling, missing crosses, and being out of position (granted, he is out of position, but that's another story). Yakubu's been a touch slow as he regains match fitness.

Also, Brentford's keeper has been outstanding. To extra time we go.

Most balance view of the night.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 03:40:56 AM
F me if we go out of this it's looking very bleak lads let's face it. Don't blame Moyes overall, I think we've come into yet another season, without any fit strikers and it's ruined the function of the team hence Moyes having to shift players around. Don't blame it on the Moyesie, don't blame on the boys man, don't blame it on the good times - blame it on the BK. Awoow!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:42:49 AM
F me if we go out of this it's looking very bleak lads let's face it. Don't blame Moyes overall, I think we've come into yet another season, without any fit strikers and it's ruined the function of the team hence Moyes having to shift players around. Don't blame it on the Moyesie, don't blame on the boys man, don't blame it on the good times - blame it on the BK. Awoow!

Billy only seems to get blamed during transfer windows. As soon as the window closes he gets minimal blame when really the only reason we haven't pushed on more is because we have a net spend of zero for 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: kunal32 on September 22, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
Round will do the post match.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 03:43:30 AM
F me if we go out of this it's looking very bleak lads let's face it. Don't blame Moyes overall, I think we've come into yet another season, without any fit strikers and it's ruined the function of the team hence Moyes having to shift players around. Don't blame it on the Moyesie, don't blame on the boys man, don't blame it on the good times - blame it on the BK. Awoow!

He doesn't need to shift players around.

Just play them where they're supposed to play and the results will be much better.

Having a dm up front is plain daft.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:45:25 AM
anybody spell Championship
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:46:32 AM
anybody spell Championship

why?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 03:46:44 AM
anybody spell Championship

you have just spelt it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:47:23 AM
because playing like this we will have to get use to spelling it. 
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:47:40 AM
That last substitution took awhile. Beckford for Yakubu, straight swap. Wouldn't have minded Beckford instead for Neville, moving Fellaini back. Especially since this looks destined for penalties at this point.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:49:36 AM
That last substitution took awhile. Beckford for Yakubu, straight swap. Wouldn't have minded Beckford instead for Neville, moving Fellaini back. Especially since this looks destined for penalties at this point.

Maybe the Yak physically cant move after 100 minutes? Otherwise that would have made sense given the Yak is a regular penalty taker as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 03:50:25 AM
That last substitution took awhile. Beckford for Yakubu, straight swap. Wouldn't have minded Beckford instead for Neville, moving Fellaini back. Especially since this looks destined for penalties at this point.

Have to agree with you there would have kept the two strikers on as we want to score a goal and they are both very capable penalty takers.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 03:50:45 AM
This is pathtic, sounds like the players are so weak mentally. We don't have bite and that's purely becuase we can't buy anyone with that element.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:51:15 AM
Maybe the Yak physically cant move after 100 minutes? Otherwise that would have made sense given the Yak is a regular penalty taker as well.

Agreed, that's pretty much the only reasonable explanation I can think of. Then again, it's not like we're moving much as it is anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 03:51:32 AM
should have brought on young Barkley at least their mind be some go in him  ossie still on
beat he will score the winner
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 03:51:39 AM
Sounds like we've done everything but score. Again.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 03:51:40 AM
This is pathtic, sounds like the players are so weak mentally. We don't have bite and that's purely becuase we can't buy anyone with that element.

Or the players aren't behind Moyes anymore? just a thought
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueToffee on September 22, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
Frankly I wouldn't have been too confident in a Yak penalty at the moment.

That said looking around the park there aren't too many options.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:53:28 AM
Frankly I wouldn't have been too confident in a Yak penalty at the moment.

That said looking around the park there aren't too many options.

Baines, Arteta and Beckford are all excellent penalty takers. Then Neville and Jags both scored in the semi.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 03:53:36 AM
How has Ossie playeed? Shame I cant watch what's going on.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 03:54:25 AM
How has Ossie playeed? Shame I cant watch what's going on.

Do you need to ask that?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:54:55 AM
Frankly I wouldn't have been too confident in a Yak penalty at the moment.

That said looking around the park there aren't too many options.

Who are the penalty takers right now? Beckford, Arteta, Pienaar, Bilyaletdinov, and Osman? Maybe Fellaini?
(Forgive me, as this is my first season following Everton--or any football at all, really. I'm not aware of who have taken the penalties before this season, outside of the Beckford penalty against Huddersfield.)
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 03:55:30 AM
Only time I'll ever have some sort of agreement with you.
Do you need to ask that?

The only time I'll ever have some sort of agreement with you!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:55:46 AM
Or the players aren't behind Moyes anymore? just a thought

Why would they not be? You cant chuck things in like that without a reason surely
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 03:56:52 AM
Who are the penalty takers right now? Beckford, Arteta, Pienaar, Bilyaletdinov, and Osman? Maybe Fellaini?
(Forgive me, as this is my first season following Everton--or any football at all, really. I'm not aware of who have taken the penalties before this season, outside of the Beckford penalty against Huddersfield.)

Arteta
Baines
Beckford
Neville
Jagielka

That is my guess. Osman has taken penalties before but not since he missed one for us in a shoot out away at Boro quite a few years ago.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 03:57:32 AM
4-5-1, in extra time, with nothing to lose. Fuck off!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:57:54 AM
Season starts Jan
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Lebanese_toffee on September 22, 2010, 03:58:06 AM
Moyes =  :titanic:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Tasslehoff on September 22, 2010, 03:58:13 AM
Feels like a loss, even if we win..
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 03:58:15 AM
Why would they not be? You cant chuck things in like that without a reason surely

Pienaar situation?  Yak and Yobo situation? Some of his interviews?

Not saying these are right, just ideas.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:58:26 AM
Arteta
Baines
Beckford
Neville
Jagielka

That is my guess. Osman has taken penalties before but not since he missed one for us in a shoot out away at Boro quite a few years ago.

agreed. A skipper should always take on imo
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 22, 2010, 03:58:31 AM
are the highlights on the telly?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Alwaysblue on September 22, 2010, 03:58:37 AM
typical Moyes negative tactics, seriously he needs to go
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 03:58:40 AM
Arteta
Baines
Beckford
Neville
Jagielka

That is my guess. Osman has taken penalties before but not since he missed one for us in a shoot out away at Boro quite a few years ago.

Many thanks, Rhys.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 03:59:02 AM
Why would they not be? You cant chuck things in like that without a reason surely

It is doing the rounds. I've read/heard he's lost half the dressing room.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 03:59:13 AM
I'm still hoping it doesn't go to pens, but you're near enough with that list.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 03:59:29 AM
4-5-1, in extra time, with nothing to lose. Fuck off!

my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 03:59:40 AM
Pienaar situation?  Yak and Yobo situation? Some of his interviews?

Not saying these are right, just ideas.

I dont believe for one min the players are not with moyes cos of them reasons
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 04:00:30 AM
Moyes =  :titanic:

Like he was going into 2004/5? Half way through 2005/6, early part of 07/08, xmas time of 08/09 and half way through 09/10? We have consistently had bad periods but he always manages to find a winning formula. Every bad spell and people turn on him.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:01:01 AM
It is doing the rounds. I've read/heard he's lost half the dressing room.

ok, i dont understand how or why but respect your thoughts
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:01:27 AM
I dont believe for one min the players are not with moyes cos of them reasons

Maybe they are just bored of the same team talks for 9 years? Also, the players actually supported lescott last summer if i remember rightly
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 22, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
Like he was going into 2004/5? Half way through 2005/6, early part of 07/08, xmas time of 08/09 and half way through 09/10? We have consistently had bad periods but he always manages to find a winning formula. Every bad spell and people turn on him.

You can always count on Rhys to talk sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 04:03:07 AM
I dont believe for one min the players are not with moyes cos of them reasons

Could it be that Arteta's 75k a week has ruffled a few feathers?  I dont know, I'm only kicking ideas about.  Something definitely isnt right tho
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:03:39 AM
Maybe they are just bored of the same team talks for 9 years? Also, the players actually supported lescott last summer if i remember rightly

ok its the same team talk tho if what you say is right that has made stars out of a lot of them. As for Lescott i dunno nor can argue with you
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:03:52 AM
Maybe they are just bored of the same team talks for 9 years? Also, the players actually supported lescott last summer if i remember rightly
#
Mate seriously do you never stop with anti Moyes rhetoric? You're so transparent like that's the reson for everything. Get another line you tedious little gimp.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:05:55 AM
Could it be that Arteta's 75k a week has ruffled a few feathers?  I dont know, I'm only kicking ideas about.  Something definitely isnt right tho

we aint getting results thats what is not right. if its true about players turning on him we are fucked cos i dont see one player he has not took and improved
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:06:13 AM
their goalie is having an awesome game by the sounds of it, i'd say we are had it in the shootout
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:06:28 AM
we aint getting results thats what is not right. if its true about players turning on him we are fucked cos i dont see one player he has not took and improved

ok billy.. sorry
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 04:06:45 AM
You can always count on Rhys to talk sense.

I'm losing the will to if im honest mate! He wont be going anywhere, he will turn things round and we will be ok then most people will be praising him to hilt for doing a great job with a zero budget and return to thinking he is one of the best managers in the league, like 90% of people outside Everton think he is. You ask anyone outside of our fan base if he deserves stick and they would think you are crazy for suggesting it. If we dont back him we dont deserve him is the way I see it.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:06:46 AM
#
Mate seriously do you never stop with anti Moyes rhetoric? You're so transparent like that's the reson for everything. Get another line you tedious little gimp.

I want the man out of my football club. I have as much right to that view, as you do with your love fest for the man.

Stop being a childish prick, and deal with the fact not everyone blushes over his ginger kecks
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
I usually ignore all the conspiracy theories.

Couldn't it be that we're just going through an unsettled patch?

It's never easy to take, but it happens from time to time.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:08:39 AM
I want the man out of my football club. I have as much right to that view, as you do with your love fest for the man.

Stop being a childish prick, and deal with the fact not everyone blushes over his ginger kecks

Who on our shoe string budget is gonna take is higher?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 04:09:05 AM
You can always count on Rhys to talk sense.

Thank god someone does. At least for every ILB there's a Rhys.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Tasslehoff on September 22, 2010, 04:09:19 AM
Peeved, could not be arsed now if we will or not, pathetic
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:09:28 AM
Who on our shoe string budget is gonna take is higher?


leave that in other threads
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 04:09:52 AM
I want the man out of my football club.

I always thought you liked Wenger. Silly me.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:10:15 AM
I want the man out of my football club. I have as much right to that view, as you do with your love fest for the man.

Stop being a childish prick, and deal with the fact not everyone blushes over his ginger kecks

You only have one thing to offer this site and it's the same old shit - you can't offer anything else. What you say does not mean you're right. I have given debates about all things not just always praising Moyes but talk about his lacking parts too. More importantly I look at other things that may be the cause of us playing bad. You just come out with the same old bull time in time out. We get you don't like him, end of the story. Stop going on like a bleeding parrot. So you need to grow up and fast.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:11:17 AM
I want the man out of my football club. I have as much right to that view, as you do with your love fest for the man.

Stop being a childish prick, and deal with the fact not everyone blushes over his ginger kecks

Why do you feel so strongly that you want him out and dont use tonight as a piss poor excuse
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:12:00 AM
Why do you feel so strongly that you want him out and dont use tonight as a piss poor excuse

People know on here, i first wanted him out 3 or 4 years ago. I saw then he wasn't good enough to take us to the level i expect us to be at
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Ridge on September 22, 2010, 04:12:12 AM
So hows Mucha at saving penalties?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: nomorechang on September 22, 2010, 04:12:30 AM
Maybe they are just bored of the same team talks for 9 years? Also, the players actually supported lescott last summer if i remember rightly

what a feeble statement .. not one tiny bit based on fact ,,, I support Moyes and can think of better reasons than dragging shite like that out of the shit bin
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: trueblue924 on September 22, 2010, 04:13:06 AM
Bloody hell penaltys against brentford ffs what a shambles we have become this season
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Rhys on September 22, 2010, 04:13:21 AM
So hows Mucha at saving penalties?

Well he saved one in the game!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:13:23 AM
So hows Mucha at saving penalties?

Turned one away earlier today, or we wouldn't have entered extra time. To penalties!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:13:41 AM
People know on here, i first wanted him out 3 or 4 years ago. I saw then he wasn't good enough to take us to the level i expect us to be at

That's it, there's your comment and idea. Now leave it we don't need to hear it every bloody second you're on here. Shut up now. We know your view so stop repeating yourself!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:13:48 AM
People know on here, i first wanted him out 3 or 4 years ago. I saw then he wasn't good enough to take us to the level i expect us to be at

People on here know.... I dont.

3-4 years ago where di you expext us to be?

What are you on about?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 04:14:36 AM
lol, this isn't going to be fun!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:14:40 AM
we are a fuckin joke better off out of it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:15:05 AM
People on here know.... I dont.

3-4 years ago where di you expext us to be?

What are you on about?



Seriously this guy talks absolute s..t ignore him
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 04:15:15 AM
Absolute joke whether we go thru or not
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:15:16 AM
That's it, there's your comment and idea. Now leave it we don't need to hear it every bloody second you're on here. Shut up now. We know your view so stop repeating yourself!!!!

Stop talking for everyone else you weapon. Plenty of people on here dont like Moyes.

Fucking grow up, or put me on ignore
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Ridge on September 22, 2010, 04:15:29 AM
Well he saved one in the game!
That would be a good example, I missed that bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2010, 04:16:16 AM
Christ.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:16:22 AM
wouldn't fucking mind but we have our best team out only cahill missing thats enough
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Risky on September 22, 2010, 04:17:05 AM
Seriously this guy talks absolute s..t ignore him

Says the guy who seemingly replies to every single thing he posts.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:17:15 AM
Stop talking for everyone else you weapon. Plenty of people on here dont like Moyes.

Fucking grow up, or put me on ignore

Yes plenty of people don't like Moyes but they don't go on and on and on like a bleeding Duracell battery. Stop telling me to grow up as it's you who has some sort of retarded (like your comments) or immature characteristic.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:18:15 AM
Baines up first for Everton. In!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:18:38 AM
baines scores
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: toffeeglas on September 22, 2010, 04:18:51 AM
Noooo Pip taking a pen?!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2010, 04:18:51 AM
Come on Mucha. You Slovak Beast.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:19:01 AM
Says the guy who seemingly replies to every single thing he posts.

Yes you got me on that one - but he's just so annoying. Ok I won't anymore.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:19:06 AM
Miles Weston fools Mucha. 1-1. Neville up next.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 04:19:10 AM
Weston scores.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:19:55 AM
Neville blows it past the keeper. Foster for Brentford rattles it off the post, 2-2.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:20:04 AM
1-1 neville next. scores2 1
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:20:32 AM
Arteta up next, 3-2.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 04:20:45 AM
3-3
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2010, 04:20:52 AM
We're all listening you know? No need to repeat every scorer.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:21:06 AM
arteta 3 2
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:21:13 AM
Michael Spillane evens it up 3-3, just out of Mucha's reach.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 04:21:21 AM
Beckford misses
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: toffeeglas on September 22, 2010, 04:21:30 AM
Oh Beckford!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2010, 04:21:31 AM
Beckford will miss.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:21:36 AM
Beckford's shot saved by Lee, low and left.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:21:49 AM
beckford????? grrrrrr
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:21:58 AM
We're all listening you know? No need to repeat every scorer.

No please do as I'm not listening
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 04:21:58 AM
4-3 Brentford
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 04:22:01 AM
TWAT!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: sharpattack on September 22, 2010, 04:22:06 AM
Oh dear
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Robioto on September 22, 2010, 04:22:22 AM
Called that.... Great signing....
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cad on September 22, 2010, 04:22:25 AM
Jags misses...all over
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 22, 2010, 04:22:32 AM
MacDonald makes it 4-3, and Jagielka must score.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: toffeeglas on September 22, 2010, 04:22:43 AM
Out of one cup then
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 04:22:52 AM
Fucking pathetic.

Just fucking go......
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: charlatan on September 22, 2010, 04:22:58 AM
Fucking pathetic.

Just fucking go......
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:23:14 AM
fuck me
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: trueblue924 on September 22, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
ffs we are a fucking laughing stock getting beat by brentford
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:23:22 AM
Beckford my bollocks thats what you get moyes for getting league 1 players for free fucking joke
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:23:49 AM
moyes get your fucking coat you cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:23:56 AM
just get the fuck out Moyes. Im fucking fuming
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: sharpattack on September 22, 2010, 04:24:10 AM
Mickey Mouse cup
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:24:14 AM
were skint who do u want him to buy. lionel messi
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 04:24:23 AM
Well, well, well....
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Thom on September 22, 2010, 04:24:41 AM
Knocked out on pens by a side two divisions below us. It happens, but seriously... fuck off. Best squad in 25 years my arse.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:25:48 AM
moyes get your fucking coat you cunt

Get a grip
moyes get your fucking coat you cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:26:06 AM
Micke
Mickey Mouse cup

M mouse cup that we've never won!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:26:08 AM
were skint who do u want him to buy. lionel messi

sorry, didnt know we needed Messi to beat the worst side in league 1
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Azz on September 22, 2010, 04:27:58 AM
Got to laugh at these things haven't you really.  What a joke.  :D
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:28:11 AM
That is truly appalling, a night of shame in this once proud club's history. I blame those fucking shit pink shirts burn the bastards now... the shirts that is
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:28:18 AM
That is truly appalling, a night of shame in this once proud club's history. I blame those fucking shit pink shirts burn the bastards now... the shirts that is
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:28:30 AM
were skint who do u want him to buy. lionel messi

don't give me that bullshit how much did Brentford spend. wouldn't fucking mind they were all
laughing their bollocks off on sky sports about everton moyes just fucking go
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cantoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:28:38 AM
Not good, but Moyes should be able to put out the team in any formation against these and we should win. That being said both him and the players need to get it together now or we're going to spiral out of control.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Lewis on September 22, 2010, 04:28:58 AM
This really is horrendous. Most other managers would be sent packing after this start to the season
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:29:54 AM
no you dont need messi. but were fuckin skint. and we got a striker in on a free..would you have rather we didnt get anybody at all. or an extra body in the squad ?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Seaforth Blue on September 22, 2010, 04:30:04 AM
I feel so ashamed and angry at the moment. Fuckin Brentford.

Absolute bastard disgrace.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:30:22 AM
its a fucking shite result yes..... moyes out is ridiculous tho.

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Tinga on September 22, 2010, 04:30:38 AM
We better get an apology for this! absolute fucking disgrace!, fuck off Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: true1891blue on September 22, 2010, 04:30:57 AM
why oh fcukin why does moyse persist in playing osman and felli out of position sharp kept saying he looked lazy to me its a player that looks lost in a position that he cannot play
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:31:06 AM
no you dont need messi. but were fuckin skint. and we got a striker in on a free..would you have rather we didnt get anybody at all. or an extra body in the squad ?

id rather Moyes didnt use all his transfer budger up on giving cahill, Arteta and Baines new bumper deals.

might have been able to buy a striker then... no?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 04:31:49 AM
its a fucking shite result yes..... moyes out is ridiculous tho.



When wouldn't it be ridiculous then?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:32:12 AM
This really is horrendous. Most other managers would be sent packing after this start to the season

cant afford to sack him though lewis. cost too much
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Connavar on September 22, 2010, 04:32:26 AM
Results like these happen unfortunately, but coupled with the start of the season, you struggle to see where we go from here. Same mistakes seem to be made over and ove again.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:32:58 AM
Not being funny but the warning signs were there in the summer. Starting the season off with one unreliable striker in Saha and a unfit Yak and THEN Moyes more or less having to sign a Div 1 player on a free was always a recipie for disaster, why were we not shouting on the roof tops about that? I want the board out not Moyes. That is the cause of the disease.

I understand your anger and frustration as I am the same but we need to stay level headed - we will pick up I have faith. Sacking the manager is just not the answer trust me - it;s  the simplest solution and not always the right one. You get in Allardyce or Curbishley you'll find out what it's really like. Unless we get someone like Leonardo who will be given funds then ok but not some of the managers that have been suggested iun recent past. No way! Rash solution and temporary relief.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
It's the same old shite, the players should be ashamed of themselves...Moyes has lost the plt, maybe it is time for him to go, he will never do anything for us. The season has just started and ours is over. Bollox
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:33:22 AM
All together now

Its a grand old team to play for..... :tit:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:33:33 AM
This really is horrendous. Most other managers would be sent packing after this start to the season

Not having a go but its that attitude thats ruining the game in this day and age. Yes its a shite start but we are 5 games into a season 33 games to go, our manager has turned it round before.... why cant he again?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: efcforlife on September 22, 2010, 04:33:38 AM
id rather Moyes didn't use all his transfer budger up on giving cahill, Arteta and Baines new bumper deals.

might have been able to buy a striker then... no?

what and then lost 3 influential players due to their terms not being good enough... genius
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Tinga on September 22, 2010, 04:33:39 AM
If Osman starts again at RW then Moyes can seriously fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Grand Master C on September 22, 2010, 04:34:01 AM
That is truly appalling, a night of shame in this once proud club's history. I blame those fucking shit pink shirts burn the bastards now... the shirts that is

Ahh, that made me smile for the first time tonight  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on September 22, 2010, 04:34:07 AM
shocked, angry, annoyed

everton
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:34:26 AM
Results like these happen unfortunately, but coupled with the start of the season, you struggle to see where we go from here. Same mistakes seem to be made over and ove again.

oldham, shrewsbury, brentford... happened a few times for Moysieh
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:34:30 AM
no you dont need messi. but were fuckin skint. and we got a striker in on a free..would you have rather we didnt get anybody at all. or an extra body in the squad ?

you would be better off with no one than fucking Beckford and he can take piss poor ossie as well
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 04:34:34 AM
id rather Moyes didnt use all his transfer budger up on giving cahill, Arteta and Baines new bumper deals.

might have been able to buy a striker then... no?

That's not how it works at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 04:34:36 AM
He was given money for Billy and Fellaini. He doesn't know where to play them though does he?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Dionysus on September 22, 2010, 04:34:59 AM
Not being funny but the warning signs were there in the summer. Starting the season off with one unreliable striker in Saha and a unfit Yak and THEN Moyes more or less having to sign a Div 1 player on a free was always a recipie for disaster, why were we not shouting on the roof tops about that? I want the board out not Moyes. That is the cause of the disease.

Yeah I guess the board are taking the decisions to play Fellaini up front and Osman on the wing. This has nothing to do with money. Every week we put out 11 professional, highly-paid footballers. We have a right to expect more.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Cozzie on September 22, 2010, 04:35:21 AM
Shocking
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:35:29 AM
id rather Moyes didnt use all his transfer budger up on giving cahill, Arteta and Baines new bumper deals.

might have been able to buy a striker then... no?

he gave them better contracts to stop the players gettin tapped up by other clubs. can you imagine then in arteta and cahill and baines left in the transfer window just gone.and we got a striker in..would you really be happy..3 top players out and one striker in ?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 04:35:39 AM
Apparently had numerous chances but couldn't score, where have we heard that before? I said at the start of the season till the window closes. Forget RW, we need a striker ASAP. F..ing joke.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: true1891blue on September 22, 2010, 04:35:46 AM
Empty


shocked, angry, annoyed

everton
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:35:55 AM
When wouldn't it be ridiculous then?

Whatever I say to that I cant win... Fine sack him, pay him off bring in chris coleman, thats a great fucking future
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: efcforlife on September 22, 2010, 04:36:03 AM
Do you think Moyes thinks this is good enough? obviously not..

the playing squad has to be held responsible, the team is not showing its quality.

the side has always been well motivated we are just having a really bad start.

we will come good
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:36:47 AM
Played seven won one is disgraceful... we will be relegated by christmas. I can't explain why such good players are so fucking hopleess.
FFs we just lost to a team near the bottom of division one...lets all have a fucking big laugh while moyes picks his next time 9-1-0
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: taffytoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:36:58 AM
we are playing a league 1 side who are almost bottom and we start with fellaini just behind the striker in a 4-5-1 formation, we could'nt score saturday using that formation so why would it work tonight, the 4-5-1 only works when cahill is in the team. I'm so fucked off with negative moyes  
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:37:27 AM
Whatever I say to that I cant win... Fine sack him, pay him off bring in chris coleman, thats a great fucking future

Stevie Wonder can see Moyes is fucking done
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Carmella on September 22, 2010, 04:37:42 AM
Absolutely gobsmacked.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: BIGMAN2010 on September 22, 2010, 04:38:04 AM
im well annoyed  with this result it was looking good with coleman scoring ........hopefully we may get a result against fulham with there injuries but cant see us beating birmingham city
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ElbowofsamEdi on September 22, 2010, 04:38:29 AM
Feel sorry for Mucha, hope it doesn't knock his confidence too much.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:39:01 AM
Stevie Wonder can see Moyes is fucking done

he needs new braille then
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:39:06 AM
he gave them better contracts to stop the players gettin tapped up by other clubs. can you imagine then in arteta and cahill and baines left in the transfer window just gone.and we got a striker in..would you really be happy..3 top players out and one striker in ?

Yeah they all needed new deals. I mean Tim Cahill really needed a 4 year deal didnt he? Did Osman get a new deal also?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Fern on September 22, 2010, 04:40:11 AM
And it was Coleman that gave away the pen, and did really on Sat, but most people on here have been moaning about him not playing 90mins. So it's swings and roundabouts. We should be showing our frustrations to the board they are F useless!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:40:24 AM
Feel sorry for Mucha, hope it doesn't knock his confidence too much.

Why? he should be thankful Moyes is actually playing him in his correct position
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 04:40:43 AM
Until slick Vic is fit then were screwed because he insists on ossy on the right wing even though he wouldn't get in any other prem team.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: C-R-A-I-G on September 22, 2010, 04:41:18 AM
Moyes isnt fuckin learning from his mistakes. Why play Fellaini AM when he is a specialised DM? Why play Distin CB when you have a world cup finalist CB on the bench? Why play Osman RW when he is hopeless there? Why not start with Arteta and Pienaar till the job is done then replace them? Moyes needs to sort it out if we are going to do anything good this season. Im not over reacting to the results. If he was doing his job well but not getting the rub of the green then its alright but his tactics and choices are fucking awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: true1891blue on September 22, 2010, 04:41:44 AM
Why? he should be thankful Moyes is actually playing him in his correct position

this lol
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:41:45 AM
the worst thing about it theres muppets on this site are saying we are skint so thats why
we couldn't beat Brentford fucking Brentford how much more of this shit can everton take.

we will see the same shit on this site this weekend our season starts at fulham i hope
we get the bollocks  beat out of us then they might get rid of him he has to go
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:41:52 AM
Yeah they all needed new deals. I mean Tim Cahill really needed a 4 year deal didnt he? Did Osman get a new deal also?

answer my question as i answered yours. would you want arteta,baines and cahill to be sold just to fund a new striker.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:41:58 AM
he needs new braille then

You need to wake up and smell the beans mate

Moyes is a fucking hack.

Moyes and that prick wearing the madonna mic yes you round kindly fuck off and hopefully nature will sort Bill out.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: irishtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:43:38 AM
the players need to take a huge chunk of the blame here. that was a disgrace. those players should be able to beat brentford no matter what. yes i thought the formation was crap but they were some of the best players we have. it can't all be the managers fault. sometimes the players need to grow a pair of balls, stand up and take responsability for the display they just served up
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:44:31 AM
You need to wake up and smell the beans mate

Moyes is a fucking hack.

Moyes and that prick wearing the madonna mic yes you round kindly fuck off and hopefully nature will sort Bill out.

Ok lets get rid and replace with an upcoming manager like.....................

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 04:46:06 AM
How quickly peoples attitudes change - over the summer we all believed our own hype, talking about a topn4 finish. Now people call for Moyes head - who could we get in to do the job that would be better than Moyes. You're all forgetting that a lot of our 'decent' players are loyal to Moyes and not Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:46:20 AM
the players need to take a huge chunk of the blame here. that was a disgrace. those players should be able to beat brentford no matter what. yes i thought the formation was crap but they were some of the best players we have. it can't all be the managers fault. sometimes the players need to grow a pair of balls, stand up and take responsability for the display they just served up

Exactly it was nigh on the same formation we have played for how long??? These players live, train and learn that formation day in day out
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: MexicanToffee on September 22, 2010, 04:47:04 AM
The best squad we have had in 25 years, possibly more, and we are playing 4-5-1 against 19th in league one. Simply unbelievable.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 04:47:19 AM
answer my question as i answered yours. would you want arteta,baines and cahill to be sold just to fund a new striker.

and why would any of them been sold? Cahill and Baines had 3 years left, and Arteta 2.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:48:11 AM
the players need to take a huge chunk of the blame here. that was a disgrace. those players should be able to beat brentford no matter what. yes i thought the formation was crap but they were some of the best players we have. it can't all be the managers fault. sometimes the players need to grow a pair of balls, stand up and take responsability for the display they just served up

Mate the team have been wank since august, Moyes is too stubborn to change anything or admit he's at fault until he either realises hes tactically inept  or fucks off this is always going to happen.

I still haven't forgot about the Dinamo incident either yet these performances are still here.

All you moyes lovers stop sucking moyes off youve got ginger pyabs in yer teeth
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:48:52 AM
and people think he will be the new utd manger he might be over their under 8s thats about it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bedfordtoffee on September 22, 2010, 04:49:46 AM
Hooray, this is my 100th post... anyone tell me why i can't start a new topic on here?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 04:50:41 AM
Hooray, this is my 100th post... anyone tell me why i can't start a new topic on here?

Because the forum would be littered with Moyes fuck off threads.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:50:45 AM
Mate the team have been wank since august, Moyes is too stubborn to change anything or admit he's at fault until he either realises hes tactically inept  or fucks off this is always going to happen.

I still haven't forgot about the Dinamo incident either yet these performances are still here.

All you moyes lovers stop sucking moyes off youve got ginger pyabs in yer teeth

Were you basking in beating man u man city chelsea with the same formation as we hve played since august? no?? ok
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: evertonjoe on September 22, 2010, 04:51:07 AM
Hooray, this is my 100th post... anyone tell me why i can't start a new topic on here?

Matchday means threads are prevented so loads on the same subject don't pop up
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:51:19 AM
Ok lets get rid and replace with an upcoming manager like.....................



Tony Pulis
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 04:51:51 AM
Until slick Vic is fit then were screwed because he insists on ossy on the right wing even though he wouldn't get in any other prem team.

Our problem is at striker not RW. A right winger does not cost us games or wins them. Strikers do. Ours are poor at present.

I think we as a team are stale. Need new blood or new tactics or something. Same old boring team. Opposition have worked us out.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:52:15 AM
and why would any of them been sold? Cahill and Baines had 3 years left, and Arteta 2.

the less time left on there contracts there easier to get and cost less money..so moyes tied them down for longer..i aint got a problem with that.rather he did that and say let your favourite team (arsenal) for example come in and offeer X amount of money for arteta, so we could buy a striker..if you need to rant about anyone rant about kenwright for his lack of funds to give to a manager to buy a top class striker
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 04:52:17 AM
Were you basking in beating man u man city chelsea with the same formation as we hve played since august? no?? ok

I believe the players were in their correct positions for those matches.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:52:36 AM
Because the forum would be littered with Moyes fuck off threads.

and they would be quiet right moyes please fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:52:54 AM
Tony Pulis

I prey to god thats a tremendously good wind up and I am falling hook line and sinker for it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:53:51 AM
Tony Pulis

 tell me your not serious.lol.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:54:01 AM
Were you basking in beating man u man city chelsea with the same formation as we hve played since august? no?? ok

Why are you answering your own questions you weirdo ?

And yes I basked day and night for 3 weeks at the results.

I waited on scotty road for the open top bus for days lid
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:54:50 AM
tell me your not serious.lol.

Come on his arl girl died he deserves some luck  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:55:16 AM
I believe the players were in their correct positions for those matches.

yes fellaini played dm instead if am where cahil played
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:55:51 AM
I prey to god thats a tremendously good wind up and I am falling hook line and sinker for it

You'll never know sir
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 04:56:18 AM
yes fellaini played dm instead if am where cahil played
And Osman was in the centre.

Not rocket science is it?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 04:56:25 AM
Our problem is at striker not RW. A right winger does not cost us games or wins them. Strikers do. Ours are poor at present.

I think we as a team are stale. Need new blood or new tactics or something. Same old boring team. Opposition have worked us out.

The only striker we can afford is Jeffers. He's training with us, maybe we should give him a game - he can't do any worse than Beckford.

We have more than one problem and Osman starting right wing, actually starting at all is a problem. Vic scares defenders and as he's a natural striker he's not afraid to come inside.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 04:57:13 AM
Gary Megson still available ?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:57:58 AM
Why are you answering your own questions you weirdo ?

And yes I basked day and night for 3 weeks at the results.

I waited on scotty road for the open top bus for days lid

nice one wol.... we won with this formation with these players we are now losing with this formation and players my point is why shoul moyes be sacked or even leave?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 04:57:58 AM
I believe the players were in their correct positions for those matches.

Exactly.Not rocket science is it?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:58:07 AM
yeah make ian dowie his number two also
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 04:58:10 AM
pulis couldn't be any worse than moyes at the moment plus Beckford wouldn't get into the stoke side
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gary Iceman on September 22, 2010, 04:59:05 AM
some fukin corker comments on here tonight..im off to bed..nyt all.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Stumpy on September 22, 2010, 04:59:23 AM
Fucking great, i'm going to have the piss ripped out of me for 8 hours tomorrow while them spineless bastards lie in thier pits until mid-day. If i had my way they'd be in at the crack of dawn cleaning the boots and sweeping the stadium and when they had finished drive round and say sorry to every fan that went to the game. And while we're at it a message for moyes we were playing a poor 3rd division side ffs why just for once cant you play with 2 out and out strikers and leave fucking osman on the bus. I am so angry i feel like crying.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 04:59:42 AM
And Osman was in the centre.

Not rocket science is it?

no not at all
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 05:00:46 AM
no not at all

Yet for our manager it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:01:14 AM
You'll never know sir

i dont wanna as i fear for the truth
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 05:01:53 AM
What don't people get! If Moyes left you could also expect arteta, cahil, jagielka and possibly baines to all be gone by the summer.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Trowel on September 22, 2010, 05:02:33 AM
If we sack him, can we even afford to pay off his compensation?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 05:03:11 AM
nice one wol.... we won with this formation with these players we are now losing with this formation and players my point is why shoul moyes be sacked or even leave?

Because hes a negative,tactically naive,stubborn tit.

Brentford just beat us while we used moyes super formation,

Why shouldn't he and madonna  not be sacked ?

Its not like its a one off  how many times have we been embarrassed by lower league shite?

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:04:09 AM
What don't people get! If Moyes left you could also expect arteta, cahil, jagielka and possibly baines to all be gone by the summer.

Seriously? why the fuck would they?!?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 05:04:33 AM
What don't people get! If Moyes left you could also expect arteta, cahil, jagielka and possibly baines to all be gone by the summer.

On recent form would we fucking notice  ?

They wont stay in the championship anyway la.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
Fucking great, i'm going to have the piss ripped out of me for 8 hours tomorrow while them spineless bastards lie in thier pits until mid-day. If i had my way they'd be in at the crack of dawn cleaning the boots and sweeping the stadium and when they had finished drive round and say sorry to every fan that went to the game. And while we're at it a message for moyes we were playing a poor 3rd division side ffs why just for once cant you play with 2 out and out strikers and leave fucking osman on the bus. I am so angry i feel like crying.

I understand the want for two strikers against lesser opponents, I, however, think allot of people are missing out on a problem in doing that. The Yak isn't fully match fit and well, we only have two strikers available at the moment so if one gets injured...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
What don't people get! If Moyes left you could also expect arteta, cahil, jagielka and possibly baines to all be gone by the summer.

We'd get a nice bit of money for them, if they did decide to leave that is.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:05:24 AM
no not at all

Osman should be nowhere near that team mate.And you know it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:05:40 AM
Yet for our manager it is.
He is playing fellaini am cos cahill and saha are injured and he |(felli) did a decent job there in his first season and has back up in heitinga and neville he is playing osman rm for80% of his career he has played there. i agree osman is in effective there and we need an rm.

if thats gonna get him the sack so be it, whoever comes in will more than likely do exactly the same
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: toffeeglas on September 22, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
Have there been any post-match comments from Moyes etc yet?
Think he'll try and justify it or expecting an apology?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 05:06:36 AM
I understand the want for two strikers against lesser opponents, I, however, think allot of people are missing out on a problem in doing that. The Yak isn't fully match fit and well, we only have two strikers available at the moment so if one gets injured...

Excuses excuses
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 05:06:58 AM
Seriously? why the fuck would they?!?

Theyre here because they believe in Moyes and his future plans. Not because they love Everton. They would move onto bigger and better things.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueslipper on September 22, 2010, 05:07:23 AM
Pissflaps buggerfuck and twatbag.....and I don't normally swear, where the soddin ell do we go from here, apart from getting a new bumhole ripped out of us with another timid display against Fulham. Mark Hughes will be in heaven and I for one wanted to give him a good turning over after the Lescott debacle. I'm going to bed and I hope I can sleep after that result
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:07:45 AM
Because hes a negative,tactically naive,stubborn tit.

Brentford just beat us while we used moyes super formation,

Why shouldn't he and madonna  not be sacked ?

Its not like its a one off  how many times have we been embarrassed by lower league shite?



his tactics have took us to places in the last 8 years i doubt anyone else could.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2010, 05:08:11 AM
He is playing fellaini am cos cahill and saha are injured and he |(felli) did a decent job there in his first season and has back up in heitinga and neville he is playing osman rm for80% of his career he has played there. i agree osman is in effective there and we need an rm.

if thats gonna get him the sack so be it, whoever comes in will more than likely do exactly the same

He doesn't need to play Fellaini there though. He has other options, players that actually already play in those positions.

He could have easily gone for two strikers.

He could have played Bilya, or even Osman in the hole.

Instead he takes control away from midfield in Fellaini and plays him up front, where he isn't actually very good there.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: preki on September 22, 2010, 05:08:40 AM
On the day of the game,Moyes comes out and says the Yak wanted to leave.Great start to a day when we have a potential banana skin.Then its the 4-5-1 he nicked off Greece(Yet gets hailed as a genius for it) against Brentford!!!!!!!Brentford!!!!!!!!!!!Come on.It sometimes seems hes trying to force himself out,and who can blame him when year after year he has to deal with Kenwright and his free theatre tickets for potential signings.I love Everton not David Moyes,sometimes its both,but at he momment somethings very wrong and he dont seem like he can fix it
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:08:53 AM
Excuses excuses

Jackie, your always negative on here. Its not an excuse its a very good reason not to play strikers. Allot of ppl have been moaning about Felli and Cahill up front. Who would we play if all our strikers get injured if no1 wants that?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:08:56 AM
Theyre here because they believe in Moyes and his future plans. Not because they love Everton. They would move onto bigger and better things.

they are hear because Everton pay them a hefty wage, and they enjoy playing for the club. i would imagine Artetat would enjoy it even more if a Spaniard took over
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: sharpattack on September 22, 2010, 05:09:55 AM
Get rid of Moyes? Talk about over reaction. The same people saying that are the same ones who would have sacked him 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 05:09:57 AM
So Radio City seemed to confirm what I said. Strained relationship between Moyes and the players eh. Suppose we'll see who's got the most power...
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:10:25 AM
his tactics have took us to places in the last 8 years i doubt anyone else could.

fucking huge difference in coming 6th or 7th, then winning things. Completely different tactical nous is needed
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:11:18 AM
He is playing fellaini am cos cahill and saha are injured and he |(felli) did a decent job there in his first season and has back up in heitinga and neville he is playing osman rm for80% of his career he has played there. i agree osman is in effective there and we need an rm.

if thats gonna get him the sack so be it, whoever comes in will more than likely do exactly the same

But didn't he buy Billy to play there.Cos he certainly isn't a RM.More money spunked up against the wall then

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blueslipper on September 22, 2010, 05:11:26 AM
What was said on city?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:11:30 AM
So Radio City seemed to confirm what I said. Strained relationship between Moyes and the players eh. Suppose we'll see who's got the most power...

have they said that then? Hmmm, good luck Bill
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:11:51 AM
He doesn't need to play Fellaini there though. He has other options, players that actually already play in those positions.

He could have easily gone for two strikers.

He could have played Bilya, or even Osman in the hole.

Instead he takes control away from midfield in Fellaini and plays him up front, where he isn't actually very good there.

2 strikers is a plan that no longer works. yes he can play people there who might work billy etc but he went for tried and tested

we can row all day long pal, you have your opinion ihave mine, we both agree things arent working at the min ijust think he has earned time to turn it around
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:12:05 AM
fucking huge difference in coming 6th or 7th, then winning things. Completely different tactical nous is needed

Agree. But we can't get anyone better.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 05:12:38 AM
they are hear because Everton pay them a hefty wage, and they enjoy playing for the club. i would imagine Artetat would enjoy it even more if a Spaniard took over

Everton pay them a piss poor wage compared to the packages they could get elsewhere - Arteta said himself, if it was about money then he wouldn't be at Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 22, 2010, 05:13:14 AM
How quickly peoples attitudes change - over the summer we all believed our own hype, talking about a topn4 finish. Now people call for Moyes head - who could we get in to do the job that would be better than Moyes. You're all forgetting that a lot of our 'decent' players are loyal to Moyes and not Everton.

Count me out of that.  Towards the end of last season I was hopeful of much better things if we could somehow add to what we had going then, and continue...  hopeful.  But, over the summer, we took a step back. Again.  Our "major signing"?  Mikel Arteta.   :headbang:
Also, in the not-so-distant past, silly new deals we're given to the likes of Cahill and Neville.  No doubt part of shitbag's budget also.  

"Who could we get in to do the job... blah-de-fucking-blah-catch22 etc."  Look, we're fucking rotting anyway with our clueless, hopeless twat of a "chairman"...  it wouldn't matter if we had Mourinho, Ferguson, whoever...  no, wait, they'd well be on their fucking bikes.  It wouldn't matter if we had Dave Jones, or Ronnie fucking Moore...  no wait, Bill might be able to afford to sack the likes of them two....  See, see?

And who is this "lot of our decent players loyal to Moyes and not Everton" you speak of?  Osman's decent...   ::)

You know what?  Fuck it.  I'll try not caring, at least for now, as Bill and Dave the pisspot men will be cuddled up pretty soon, discussing a new deal for Distin or some such.  Too fucking cosy for my liking.  Pair of fucking backscratchers.  We're the biggest small-time club in the land, thanks to this pair of pricks.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 05:14:05 AM
the yak isn't fully fit yet i am sick to the arse hearing this he was at the world cup  what more time does he need
fuck sake the yak doesn't give a flying fuck now about everton just there to pick up his wage every week.
in six weeks time we will hear the same shit the yak is not match fit yet. moyes should have sold the yak
in the summer as he said himself he wanted to leave everton
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:14:07 AM
Everton pay them a piss poor wage compared to the packages they could get elsewhere - Arteta said himself, if it was about money then he wouldn't be at Everton.

where would he be then? Who else in teh prem pays their players £75k a week? Only 4 or 5 clubs, none of which Arteta could get in
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:14:20 AM
fucking huge difference in coming 6th or 7th, then winning things. Completely different tactical nous is needed

We aint in a financial place to seriously win things. Did you think when he came he would be like kendall cos them days are long gone
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 05:14:29 AM
Jackie, your always negative on here. Its not an excuse its a very good reason not to play strikers. Allot of ppl have been moaning about Felli and Cahill up front. Who would we play if all our strikers get injured if no1 wants that?

I barely on here , mate you cant defend the indefensible and if I am negative its due to 25 years of disappointment.

And we have got strikers Yakubu and Beckford oh and Vaughan  but super moyse loaned him out didn't he?

Fucking genius
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:15:22 AM
But didn't he buy Billy to play there.Cos he certainly isn't a RM.More money spunked up against the wall then



We dunno what he bought him for, i always though he was an lm myself before he signed
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:15:56 AM
Count me out of that.  Towards the end of last season I was hopeful of much better things if we could somehow add to what we had going then, and continue...  hopeful.  But, over the summer, we took a step back. Again.  Our "major signing"?  Mikel Arteta.   :headbang:
Also, in the not-so-distant past, silly new deals we're given to the likes of Cahill and Neville.  No doubt part of shitbag's budget also. 

"Who could we get in to do the job... blah-de-fucking-blah-catch22 etc."  Look, we're fucking rotting anyway with our clueless, hopeless twat of a "chairman"...  it wouldn't matter if we had Mourinho, Ferguson, whoever...  no, wait, they'd well be on their fucking bikes.  It wouldn't matter if we had Dave Jones, or Ronnie fucking Moore...  no wait, Bill might be able to afford to sack the likes of them two....  See, see?

And who is this "lot of our decent players loyal to Moyes and not Everton" you speak of?  Osman's decent...   ::)

You know what?  Fuck it.  I'll try not caring, at least for now, as Bill and Dave the pisspot men will be cuddled up pretty soon, discussing a new deal for Distin or some such.  Too fucking cosy for my liking.  Pair of fucking backscratchers.  We're the biggest small-time club in the land, thanks to this pair of pricks.

  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 05:16:28 AM
 Osman's decent...   ::)

Osman would be decent in the Championship....maybe.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:16:53 AM
We aint in a financial place to seriously win things. Did you think when he came he would be like kendall cos them days are long gone

well then. Lets all just give up and accept it.

fucking wenger has it right, people in England are obsessed with Money solving everything. How about coaching and tactics? improving players?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:17:38 AM
the yak isn't fully fit yet i am sick to the arse hearing this he was at the world cup  what more time does he need
fuck sake the yak doesn't give a flying fuck now about everton just there to pick up his wage every week.
in six weeks time we will hear the same shit the yak is not match fit yet. moyes should have sold the yak
in the summer as he said himself he wanted to leave everton

Yaks been doing okay in the games he's played this season. From what I've seen and listened to (today) he has done everything but put it in the net (yes I realise that's a strikers job).
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:20:04 AM
well then. Lets all just give up and accept it.

fucking wenger has it right, people in England are obsessed with Money solving everything. How about coaching and tactics? improving players?

I never said fucking give up did i, and as for wenger your fucking glory boy what has he won in 5 bastard years?? He has had money to invest and spend, emphasis on invest and a fucking youth system set up for bastard years, we dont have any of that, everyone is behind arsenal in that respect, not just moyes and everton
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: philly on September 22, 2010, 05:20:14 AM
where would he be then? Who else in teh prem pays their players 75k a week? Only 4 or 5 clubs, none of which Arteta could get in

City asked us to name our price for Arteta - jags could get the same wage at Arsenal but with a greater chance of winning a trophy (or even a match!) Baines is one of the best left backs in the league and could walk into quite a few richer clubs than ours. Cahill is possibly the only player that wouldn't get a better wage elsewhere and that's because of his age.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:20:31 AM
I barely on here , mate you cant defend the indefensible and if I am negative its due to 25 years of disappointment.

And we have got strikers Yakubu and Beckford oh and Vaughan  but super moyse loaned him out didn't he?

Fucking genius

Vaughan needed the loan. And at this ponit is too injury prone and not good enough to be relied upon as back up. He can be called back if really needed. Genius I know.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 05:21:17 AM
where would he be then? Who else in teh prem pays their players £75k a week? Only 4 or 5 clubs, none of which Arteta could get in

Arteta would get into any of the top 4 teams you mean to tell me Darren gibson of man u or huddleston of spurs
or fucking lucas of the RS are better players than Arteta maybe its the the players around arteta that is the problem
whats Bentley on at spurs and he was shit tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:22:40 AM
City asked us to name our price for Arteta - jags could get the same wage at Arsenal but with a greater chance of winning a trophy (or even a match!) Baines is one of the best left backs in the league and could walk into quite a few richer clubs than ours. Cahill is possibly the only player that wouldn't get a better wage elsewhere and that's because of his age.

No they didnt. if City did, Arteta wouldn't be at Everton now. Wake up.

Where would Baines get a game? he wouldn't get in the mancs, Chelseas or Arsenals team. Spurs? debatable
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: NoMoreJackieChan on September 22, 2010, 05:22:54 AM
Vaughan needed the loan. And at this ponit is too injury prone and not good enough to be relied upon as back up. He can be called back if really needed. Genius I know.

and saha and yakubu aren't injury prone?

fucking genius part 2
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:25:20 AM
and saha and yakubu aren't injury prone?

fucking genius part 2

Haha. Yeah, man but they are proven. Jimmy is young and needs games, games were he is able to gain confidence. He wasn't getting that at Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:27:05 AM
Haha. Yeah, man but they are proven. Jimmy is young and needs games, games were he is able to gain confidence. He wasn't getting that at Everton.

Yeah,and I suppose Beckford has been there,seen it,done it?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:29:27 AM
Yeah,and I suppose Beckford has been there,seen it,done it?

From what I know Beckford hasn't spent the last few years in the injury room.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cantoffee on September 22, 2010, 05:32:06 AM
Vaughn would not solve our current problems, that much is sure. We've got bigger issues than loaning out an injury prone unproven striker who was average at best last year in the Championship with Leicester,
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 05:34:09 AM
What was said on city?

Strained relationship between Moyes and the players.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:34:42 AM
Vaughn would not solve our current problems, that much is sure. We've got bigger issues than loaning out an injury prone unproven striker who was average at best last year in the Championship with Leicester,

Re:- Beckford with Leeds
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 05:36:47 AM
How quickly peoples attitudes change - over the summer we all believed our own hype, talking about a topn4 finish. Now people call for Moyes head - who could we get in to do the job that would be better than Moyes. You're all forgetting that a lot of our 'decent' players are loyal to Moyes and not Everton.

We don't know where their loyalties lie, and neither do you unless you talk to them all individually.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 05:40:59 AM
Strained relationship between Moyes and the players.

Where would it come from? Why suddenly.2 weeks ago it was about how great the team spirit is? Suddenly there is major problems? Does not make sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 05:41:27 AM
Everton pay them a piss poor wage compared to the packages they could get elsewhere - Arteta said himself, if it was about money then he wouldn't be at Everton.

Philly you are starting to piss me off with your posts. First you say they are here b/c they love Moyes, and now you say it is because Everton and not money. Be a man, make up your damn mind, and pick a side and stay with it.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 05:41:34 AM
Beckford i would rather have stuart Barlow back at Everton thats how pissed off i am
and steve round talking shit about him all week that its only a matter of time untill he starts
hitting the net hope he isn't in a hurry he will go to oxford in the next transfer window on loan
to get some match time thats the next bullshit we will hear from round or moyes.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:43:13 AM
Where would it come from? Why suddenly.2 weeks ago it was about how great the team spirit is? Suddenly there is major problems? Does not make sense.


Wondering this myself.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 05:44:18 AM
Anyone able to do a ratings thread?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:44:34 AM
What's caused it though?

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well for a start, Yakubu wanted to leave. Prob hasnt helped. Arteta getting a new 75k a week deal, whilst pienaar isn't offered the same.

Players constantly being played out of position?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 22, 2010, 05:47:14 AM
well for a start, Yakubu wanted to leave. Prob hasnt helped. Arteta getting a new £75k a week deal, whilst pienaar isn't offered the same.

Players constantly being played out of position?

constantly? how powerful do you think pienaar is compared to arteta?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 05:47:17 AM
What's caused it though?

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My guess is that it has been there for awhile. Winning cures a lot of issues. Currently we aren't winning which is just going to bring the worst out of most situations.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cantoffee on September 22, 2010, 05:48:37 AM
constantly? how powerful do you think pienaar is compared to arteta?

To be fair, Pienaar's been just as important to us over the last two years as Arteta and probably deserves to be at least near Arteta's wage, if not on the same level.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Chazman on September 22, 2010, 05:50:30 AM
constantly? how powerful do you think pienaar is compared to arteta?

Not sure how powerful he is,but I would rather keep Pienaar over Arteta any day of the week
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 05:52:25 AM
To be fair, Pienaar's been just as important to us over the last two years as Arteta and probably deserves to be at least near Arteta's wage, if not on the same level.

Agreed but if Everton have said he won't get it he will move on. How would it disrupt the whole team suddenly? And besides Newcastle, we have played really well, just can't score. We needed a good striker. If we start scoring, all will be forgotten.

People calling for Moyes head needs their's examined.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 05:53:27 AM
mate, we have played shite all season!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Jamokachi on September 22, 2010, 05:56:41 AM
What's caused it though?

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No idea.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cantoffee on September 22, 2010, 05:56:51 AM
Agreed but if Everton have said he won't get it he will move on. How would it disrupt the whole team suddenly? And besides Newcastle, we have played really well, just can't score. We needed a good striker. If we start scoring, all will be forgotten.

People calling for Moyes head needs their's examined.

Pretty much agree with you, although Moyes needs to make some changes, even the more reasonable supporters are upset with him and his insistence on playing players out of position amongst other things.

Although the complaints about not being attack minded enough are pretty poor shouts imo, we get plenty of players forward our problems lie in creating chances, and finishing them. I think if we attacked with greater pace and more urgency rather than a slow build up all the time we'd create a lot more. People calling for Seamus to start ahead of Hibbert must be able to see why Hibbert starts now, Seamus is a liability at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 05:59:39 AM
Having read through most of the thread, the only thing I can see from it, apart from the last couple of pages, is that it's the usually neg heads that only post when we lose(ILB you know who I'm talking about) and are nowhere to be seen the rest of the time.

It's not really match related, but I wouldn't mind if they posted when there's something good happening, but they only arrive when doomsday comes along. Can't wait for Verm to get in from the match.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 06:00:25 AM
mate, we have played shite all season!

When were we shit besides Newcastle? And I am talking about the team spirit issue, if that was an issue, we would of been bad all season so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 06:01:07 AM
Having read through most of the thread, the only thing I can see from it, apart from the last couple of pages, is that it's the usually neg heads that only post when we lose(ILB you know who I'm talking about) and are nowhere to be seen the rest of the time.

It's not really match related, but I wouldn't mind if they posted when there's something good happening, but they only arrive when doomsday comes along. Can't wait for Verm to get in from the match.

which isnt true at all. i havent posted much this season, only in the past week. I thought i would give him a chance, but nope. the prick has wasted it.

the guy is a cretin, who cant learn from his mistakes
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:02:32 AM
mate, we have played shite all season!

No we haven't. We just haven't got a decent goal scorer. We've actually played some decent football.

Genuine question ILB, and I'm not into this "if you don't go to the game you aren't a fan" debate. But how many games do you go to?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 06:03:56 AM
not many. I said 3 years ago i wouldn't go out of my way to watch us whilst Moyes was in charge. Since then i have found better ways to spend my weekend, then doing a 100 mile round trip to come home with a sore neck and a shit mood
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 06:04:45 AM
Having read through most of the thread, the only thing I can see from it, apart from the last couple of pages, is that it's the usually neg heads that only post when we lose(ILB you know who I'm talking about) and are nowhere to be seen the rest of the time.

It's not really match related, but I wouldn't mind if they posted when there's something good happening, but they only arrive when doomsday comes along. Can't wait for Verm to get in from the match.

Pretty much the reason why I never bother on here anymore.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:06:16 AM
not many. I said 3 years ago i wouldn't go out of my way to watch us whilst Moyes was in charge. Since then i have found better ways to spend my weekend, then doing a 100 mile round trip to come home with a sore neck and a shit mood

So none then? Do you work weekends?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 06:06:36 AM
fuck this, im in a thoroughly shit mood. Im going to bed
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: cantoffee on September 22, 2010, 06:07:12 AM
Having read through most of the thread, the only thing I can see from it, apart from the last couple of pages, is that it's the usually neg heads that only post when we lose(ILB you know who I'm talking about) and are nowhere to be seen the rest of the time.

It's not really match related, but I wouldn't mind if they posted when there's something good happening, but they only arrive when doomsday comes along. Can't wait for Verm to get in from the match.

Same people who wanted Moyes gone last year before we played a brilliant second half of the season probably.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Father Mcnulty on September 22, 2010, 06:07:53 AM
We've just lost against a side with 6 points from 7 games in Div 1.  :hmph:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 06:08:53 AM
Have faith Father  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:13:39 AM
fuck this, im in a thoroughly shit mood. Im going to bed

Don't hide away. I'm just wondering how someone who is so negative about the team and lives 50 miles away never goes to games?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: blue for you on September 22, 2010, 06:13:47 AM
Don't forget lads the season starts at fulham this weekend in davie we trust something like that anyway
plus the derby again the darkside is coming up so we know the way we will play that game when the RS go
down to 9 men play 4-6-0 C.O.Y.B.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ilikebrunettes on September 22, 2010, 06:15:09 AM
Don't hide away. I'm just wondering how someone who is so negative about the team and lives 50 miles away never goes to games?

im not hiding. but i have to be up at 6am for work. Im not negative about the team, im negative about David Moyes
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:18:51 AM
im not hiding. but i have to be up at 6am for work. Im not negative about the team, im negative about David Moyes

Well swerved.  ;)

So how many games do you go to, or when did you last go to Goodison, I mean, it's only 50 miles away?

I'll make it easy for you. How many games other than fuzzy streams do you actually see in a season?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: huck on September 22, 2010, 06:20:56 AM
Well swerved.  ;)

So how many games do you go to, or when did you last go to Goodison, I mean, it's only 50 miles away?

I'll make it easy for you. How many games other than fuzzy streams do you actually see in a season?

Whe do we next play Arsenal?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:25:26 AM
Whe do we next play Arsenal?

Don't know, ask ILB he's probably got a spare seat in the corporate boxes.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 06:26:12 AM
I see where you coming from Gash, but ILB has reasonable arguments and a reasonable point of view. There are many others tho that talk shit for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:31:20 AM
I see where you coming from Gash, but ILB has reasonable arguments and a reasonable point of view. There are many others tho that talk shit for the sake of it.
I know, it's just he's the daddy of them all. I wouldn't mind if he'd gone to bed, but he's still on line and hasn't answered my simple question.

I don't mind people from all over the world sharing an opinion of Everton, but this guy lives 50 miles away, never goes to a game, or see's one, but is an authority on all things Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 06:35:54 AM
I know, it's just he's the daddy of them all. I wouldn't mind if he'd gone to bed, but he's still on line and hasn't answered my simple question.

I don't mind people from all over the world sharing an opinion of Everton, but this guy lives 50 miles away, never goes to a game, or see's one, but is an authority on all things Everton.

Fair enough but it is a forum and he is no different to someone like you and me. He can choose when he wants to see Evrton, does not make him less of a supporter. He has always been highly critical of Moyes and he has stated that he won't watch Everton under Moyes. We might disagree with him but that is pretty valid points.

I reckon I am the only one to defend him and I have no doubt he will contradict me in the next few days and make me look idiotic.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Father Mcnulty on September 22, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
Well swerved.  ;)

So how many games do you go to, or when did you last go to Goodison, I mean, it's only 50 miles away?

I'll make it easy for you. How many games other than fuzzy streams do you actually see in a season?

Gash, asking another fan how many times they go to games is out of order. It's not the attendance, but what's in your heart and soul.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: HungryHungryHibbo on September 22, 2010, 06:46:27 AM
This is so typical of this forum: people get into personal arguments, attacking each other instead of focusing on the real problem:

OUR club is in meltdown. What are WE going to do about it?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: DanDan on September 22, 2010, 06:48:55 AM
Them brentford fans are a bunch of cunts! Invading the pitch and coming strait towards us luzzing bottles and coins and all the stewards cud do was laugh!
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: American Evertonian on September 22, 2010, 06:51:34 AM
Them brentford fans are a bunch of cunts! Invading the pitch and coming strait towards us luzzing bottles and coins and all the stewards cud do was laugh!

Least we can do is take it as a compliment. Not the coin throwing, but the fact that in their opinion they upset a big club in a game they should not have won. At least they probably think we are good....
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
Fair enough but it is a forum and he is no different to someone like you and me. He can choose when he wants to see Evrton, does not make him less of a supporter. He has always been highly critical of Moyes and he has stated that he won't watch Everton under Moyes. We might disagree with him but that is pretty valid points.

I reckon I am the only one to defend him and I have no doubt he will contradict me in the next few days and make me look idiotic.

I'm not saying he's less of a supporter mate, and of course he's entitled to his opinion. But he only arrives when we've had a shit result, as he said, he's only posted on here in the last week. After two shit results. I've asked him a couple of genuine questions, which he hasn't answered.

Fans can come from anywhere, I just don't understand people who can be that negative having not watched a game. Plenty people post on here, but he posts with such authority yet never actually watches a game. That's why I respect people like Rhys and GLewis, they go to games every week and can form a proper, sensible opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 06:59:37 AM
Gash, asking another fan how many times they go to games is out of order. It's not the attendance, but what's in your heart and soul.

That's why I asked how many games he sees in a season. I've covered this in another post. But he seems to think that he is an authourity on all things Everton, yet doesn't actually see that much of the team.

I don't get to many games, and unless I see decent highlights of the game, I don't post that many comments. I think it would be wrong to come across as the know all without seeing that much of games.

It's not just ILB though, plenty commented on here without actually seeing the game, the same majority that don't comment when we are doing well.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: DanDan on September 22, 2010, 07:10:52 AM
Im still on my way home but did u lot get to either watch a stream or get radio commentary?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Gash on September 22, 2010, 07:15:05 AM
Im still on my way home but did u lot get to either watch a stream or get radio commentary?

That's my point. I don't mind if people have seen the game, but if they haven't, surely thay can't comment on what happened tonight? The guy on SSN said we played well, so I could form an opinion on that, right?
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: bluestevie on September 22, 2010, 07:28:52 AM
from the commentary it sounded like we did well but were lucky to get away with the pen miss in the second half. that said we shouldnt have given a sniff of getting back into the game.

Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: ElbowofsamEdi on September 22, 2010, 01:45:25 PM
I'm just wondering if this shock result was needed. I for one am not happy with the situation, but maybe this will mean either that players are played in their correct positions or people who play abysmally are dropped. Fulham really is crunch time now, if there's no change then, then god knows when its going to happen.
Title: Re: Everton v Brentford
Post by: Confucius on September 22, 2010, 03:48:01 PM
not heard or seen anything except what's been written on here, but to be honest when a Premier League side loses to a side bottom of the third tier of English football it's pretty fair to say they didn't play to their full potential or ability

Moyes' comments don't fill me with any great confidence in things changing either to be honest, but hey ho, we're Everton and we sit on our hands

So don't sit on your hands. I am a little tired of the we Everton we do nothing in the condescending tone you always use. You have the organisational skills to run a successful website while having a hectic career.
You were involved in KEIOC so know enough passionate Evertonians to actually do something. If you not happy with the current situation, whatever it is, start somewhere.

Unless of course it's just a bunch of rhetoric on your part.