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Title: 'Good' players that you just don't rate
Post by: Shogun on February 27, 2017, 10:27:25 PM
Chris Smalling.
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Post by: hill135 on February 27, 2017, 10:42:27 PM
Sergio Ramos

Marcelo
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 27, 2017, 11:41:04 PM
Rooney
DeGea
Pogba


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Post by: Cozzie on February 27, 2017, 11:48:59 PM
Sam Dalla Bona
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Post by: TheRam on February 27, 2017, 11:57:23 PM
Matic
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Post by: Ross on February 28, 2017, 12:02:02 AM
Nathaniel Clyne.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 12:11:31 AM
Henderson
Harry Kane
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Post by: Gumpinio on February 28, 2017, 12:35:28 AM
Cavani
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Post by: ally2 on February 28, 2017, 12:40:32 AM
Lingard
Carrick
Walcott
Wilshire
Sterling
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Post by: Bluedylan on February 28, 2017, 12:42:06 AM
Rooney
DeGea
Pogba




You don't rate David De Gea? I know this is all subjective and the point of the thread is almost to be a bit contrarian, but that's just clearly bad judgement on your part. He's an incredible player.
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Post by: Gash on February 28, 2017, 12:55:09 AM
Hendo.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 01:10:50 AM
Firminho. Not sure he is a good player though.
Vardy
Carzola
Cahill
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 28, 2017, 02:02:05 AM
You don't rate David De Gea? I know this is all subjective and the point of the thread is almost to be a bit contrarian, but that's just clearly bad judgement on your part. He's an incredible player.

I agree to disagree and defer to article 37 page 69 that states the right to an opinion is rather subjective and that DeGea is most deffo not an incredible player.

In mine humble opinion like.
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Post by: Goaljira on February 28, 2017, 02:30:30 AM
Chris Smalling.
He's shite.
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Post by: Goaljira on February 28, 2017, 02:31:17 AM
Sergio Ramos

Marcelo
I like that Ramos is a cunt.

Marcelo is absolute shite.  Never seen him have a good game, and his cross for the 3rd last night was the first good thing I ever remember him doing.
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Post by: Goaljira on February 28, 2017, 02:32:25 AM
Sam Dalla Bona
I recognise the name, but can't remember who the fuck he is/was?
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Post by: Goaljira on February 28, 2017, 02:33:01 AM
Cavani
He was great in Italy.  He's not too shabby now either like.qq
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Post by: Jimmywhack on February 28, 2017, 02:36:40 AM
I recognise the name, but can't remember who the fuck he is/was?
Young Italian lad, played fot Chelsea in the hasselbaink era
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Post by: Goaljira on February 28, 2017, 02:38:00 AM
Young Italian lad, played fot Chelsea in the hasselbaink era
Blonde 'Tom Davies' hair?
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Post by: Jimmywhack on February 28, 2017, 02:38:45 AM
Blonde 'Tom Davies' hair?
Yeah that's the kid
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Post by: Gash on February 28, 2017, 03:15:00 AM
Mahrez. One season wonder.
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 28, 2017, 03:21:39 AM
Are we talking 'good' according to media hype and general reputation?

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Post by: Shogun on February 28, 2017, 03:25:56 AM
Are we talking 'good' according to media hype and general reputation?

Plays for a decent team and generally accepted as being a good (or better than good) player.
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Post by: arteta4spain on February 28, 2017, 03:26:58 AM
Vardy, Henderson, Wiltshire. I wanna say Harry Kane in the basis that there's a proper love in for him and Rom is ignored. Although Roms been getting some decent coverage lately!
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Post by: arteta4spain on February 28, 2017, 03:29:52 AM
Y'know tbh the majority of Shite players. They're all seen as "Top top" players. But they're all Shite, bar a few.
Sterling he's a shout. I just don't get him.
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Post by: Major Clanger on February 28, 2017, 03:36:57 AM
Roy Keane.
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 28, 2017, 03:41:57 AM
Plays for a decent team and generally accepted as being a good (or better than good) player.

Mark Noble? The minute West Ham pick up 3 points I hear how it's criminal that he hasn't been called up.

He's just your bog standard Matt Holland midfielder.
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Post by: GLewis on February 28, 2017, 03:43:34 AM
Kane.

Based purely on the u20 World Cup.

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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 03:57:56 AM
Roy Keane.

Just don't get this at all. As good if not better than Viera.
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Post by: Shogun on February 28, 2017, 03:59:14 AM
Kane.

Based purely on the u20 World Cup.



We'll still be saying this when he breaks Shearer's record.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 04:07:07 AM
Kane.

Based purely on the u20 World Cup.



Mentioned it long ago. Not a like in sight. Glewis gets 3 for the same thing. Looks like I didn't click onto the clique...
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Post by: irishtoffee on February 28, 2017, 04:08:11 AM
Roy Keane.
I'll have to stand up for my fellow cork man here. It's passion and drive that made him not just a good player but a great player. Driving force behind man uniteds dominance during his time and the reason Paul Scholes never needed to learn how to tackle or defend. ( I know you're allowed your opinion but living a mile from where he grew up helped to seal him as one of my all time favourite players)
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Post by: Jimmywhack on February 28, 2017, 04:14:28 AM
Ribery
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Post by: Major Clanger on February 28, 2017, 04:20:15 AM
Just don't get this at all. As good if not better than Viera.

Nowhere near as good as Vieira for me. Not even in the same league.

In my opinion Keane was just a terrifying, vindictive bully who had a very talented team playing around him, allowing him to do the only thing he could do well: intimidate opposition players.

While Vieira was every inch the player Pogba believes himself to be.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 04:29:19 AM
Ribery


Have to agree. Do not see the love
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 04:29:29 AM
Payet
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Post by: Gash on February 28, 2017, 04:30:50 AM
Arjen Robben.
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Post by: Silas on February 28, 2017, 04:33:17 AM
Rondon
Sterling
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 04:33:47 AM
Arjen Robben.

Controversial. He can be good when he wants to be. But I am not a huge fan in general.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 04:34:17 AM
Kompany
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Post by: Silas on February 28, 2017, 04:35:51 AM
Martial
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Post by: irishtoffee on February 28, 2017, 04:38:45 AM
Nowhere near as good as Vieira for me. Not even in the same league.

In my opinion Keane was just a terrifying, vindictive bully who had a very talented team playing around him, allowing him to do the only thing he could do well: intimidate opposition players.

While Vieira was every inch the player Pogba believes himself to be.
Most successful man Utd captain of all time and only 13 red cards in his career. Some of the more high profile incidents take away from how good he was 99% of the time. I'll leave it there
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Post by: Jimmywhack on February 28, 2017, 04:39:12 AM
Martial
Lots of potential
Take away the fee

Mardy little twat tho
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Post by: Major Clanger on February 28, 2017, 04:42:56 AM
Arjen Robben.

I liked Chelsea Arjen more than the slightly less one-dimensional player he later became.

I loved it that everybody knew he had one trick, every defender was expecting it, and still he could pull it off time after time.
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Post by: Major Clanger on February 28, 2017, 04:45:01 AM
Most successful man Utd captain of all time and only 13 red cards in his career. Some of the more high profile incidents take away from how good he was 99% of the time. I'll leave it there

He was a good captain, because he bullied the far more talented, but maybe less driven players around him into performing.

He also got away with some horrible tackles without being sent off, but as we're talking about footballers here, I wouldn't count that as a positive.

There are few footballers I despise more than Keane.
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Post by: Bluedylan on February 28, 2017, 04:45:56 AM
Still can't get over the De Gea shout earlier in the thread.
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Post by: Gash on February 28, 2017, 04:52:05 AM
I loved it that everybody knew he had one trick, every defender was expecting it, and still he could pull it off time after time.

It's exactly that that's always baffled me.
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Post by: Major Clanger on February 28, 2017, 04:55:56 AM
It's exactly that that's always baffled me.

It baffled me too, but I found it amusing at the same time. :)

I'm not a very sophisticated person.
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Post by: Silas on February 28, 2017, 05:00:48 AM
Lots of potential
Take away the fee

Mardy little twat tho

Anything fast fucker who's done nothing yet
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Post by: Bluedylan on February 28, 2017, 05:04:53 AM
Anything fast fucker who's done nothing yet


Won an FA Cup in his first season (which he was instrumental in) and a League Cup in his second. Not bad for a 21 year old playing in a different country for just 18 months.
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Post by: Ross on February 28, 2017, 05:07:44 AM
Laurent Koscielny
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Post by: TheRam on February 28, 2017, 05:54:43 AM
Victor Moses.

Not having him at all
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 06:05:11 AM
Victor Moses.

Not having him at all

He is not good though is he? but yeah, agreed
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Post by: Jamokachi on February 28, 2017, 07:03:25 AM
Walcott
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Post by: Gash on February 28, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
Sir David Beckham anyone?
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 03:30:28 PM
Sir David Beckham anyone?

He did have a very good engine and an amazing right boot.His publicist/manager was world class though.
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Post by: Macca77 on February 28, 2017, 04:25:04 PM
Ozil
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Post by: 74Blue on February 28, 2017, 04:41:52 PM
Kieron Dyer. For some strange reason, he was quite highly rated, but I could never quite work out why because he was shite.

Jack Wilshere. Media wank over this guy, but I just don't get it. No doubt he is talented, but he's massively overrated.
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Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 28, 2017, 06:35:10 PM
Coutinho
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Post by: Django on February 28, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
Pedro
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Post by: Macca77 on February 28, 2017, 07:42:46 PM
Thomas Muller

Ribery
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 28, 2017, 08:52:44 PM
Anyone Liverpool bought or borrowed off Southampton.
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Post by: Confucius on February 28, 2017, 11:58:28 PM
Thomas Muller for sure.

Gotze
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Post by: Jimmywhack on March 01, 2017, 01:46:27 AM
Klose and now muller are odd as fuck
They do little at club level but Come alive at international and particularly tournaments
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Post by: Goaljira on March 01, 2017, 03:08:22 AM
There's a couple I'd definitely have on here that have been reminded by the other thread, but I'm not naming them until after Sunday as I know if I do exactly what will happen.
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Post by: Goaljira on March 09, 2017, 03:29:08 AM
Neymar.  And the ones from Spurs I didn't want to anti-jinx before the weekend were Kyle Walker and Danny Rose.
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Post by: hill135 on March 09, 2017, 03:45:19 AM
Neymar.

The timing of this shout is up there with any of mine!
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Post by: Robioto on March 10, 2017, 06:42:49 PM
Jack Wilshere - he's been theiving a Premier League living in my opinion. Has done very little for Arsenal or England and is hardly pulling up trees at Bournemouth. Praised for being 'technical' but he is shite. He is the poster boy of overhyped English dross.

Theo Walcott - Another one, he is so average IMO, not kicked on at all after a promising start, yes he scores a few goals but his overall contribution to the Arsenal team when he plays is negligible.

Paul Pogba - Very rarely see him play well. I don't get the hype, needs to start delivering which he has failed to do this season in the Premier League. Shite again last night against Rostov.

John Stones - Amazing for us a few seasons ago, since he has done nothing to suggest he is the top player City paid us so much for. I don't see him as a ball playing CB either, he makes too many errors to be classed as good in that role. At least he has time on his side.

Mesut Özil - This is an odd one as I'm a big fan of his when he plays well. But for a so called top player he is far too inconsistent.
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Post by: Shogun on March 10, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Nathaniel Clyne is an ultimate one for me.

Doesn't score, doesn't assist, doesn't cross and is in the one of the most criticised defences going yet everyone seems to rate him as one of the best RBs.
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Post by: Silas on March 11, 2017, 06:42:13 PM
Nathan Redmond screams flavour of the month
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Post by: stirlingblue on March 11, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
Pedro

Like Muller he just seems reasonable at everything without excelling in anything
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Post by: TheRam on March 12, 2017, 12:35:05 AM
Aaron Ramsey
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Post by: Silas on March 12, 2017, 02:13:21 AM
Navas
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Post by: TheRam on March 12, 2017, 06:42:20 AM
Oumar Niasse
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Post by: Confucius on March 12, 2017, 06:59:46 AM
HAHA! This should be for the shit players you rate thread
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on March 28, 2017, 03:04:04 AM
De Gea.

He's fucking mint like.

Kalamazoo is way overrated.
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on March 28, 2017, 03:05:37 AM
How the fuck does auto correct come up with Kalamazoo when u try to write lallana.

What the fuck is Kalamazoo anyway.
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on March 28, 2017, 03:05:55 AM
Fucking phone.
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Post by: Major Clanger on March 28, 2017, 03:19:58 AM
How the fuck does auto correct come up with Kalamazoo when u try to write lallana.

What the fuck is Kalamazoo anyway.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g42354-Activities-Kalamazoo_Kalamazoo_County_Michigan.html
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Post by: Major Clanger on March 28, 2017, 03:25:54 AM
It's also where Gibson guitars were originally made. You learn something every day.
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Post by: hill135 on March 28, 2017, 04:58:37 AM
Eric Dier.

Can't tackle on his feet and can't pass the ball.
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Post by: Bally on March 28, 2017, 01:00:22 PM
How the fuck does auto correct come up with Kalamazoo when u try to write lallana.

What the fuck is Kalamazoo anyway.
It's a kazoo with a lama in it of course
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Post by: GLewis on March 28, 2017, 02:13:29 PM
Eric Dier.

Can't tackle on his feet and can't pass the ball.

Think he's carried a bit by the organisation generally of Spurs but also because he fulfils a specific role for them.

It's useful for them that he can drop back to make a 3 either as a formation or to cover for their FBs going forward but he doesn't get asked to do that for England or he struggles when asked to be a more conventional midfielder at Spurs.
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Post by: TheRam on March 28, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
Eric Dier.

Can't tackle on his feet and can't pass the ball.

Nah he can defo pass a ball

I think he's a bit of a plodder myself but he can't half spray it about
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Post by: bacon sarnie on March 29, 2017, 05:28:44 AM
How the fuck does auto correct come up with Kalamazoo when u try to write lallana.

What the fuck is Kalamazoo anyway.

Had a gal there once.....
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Post by: Heisenberg on April 18, 2017, 08:00:10 AM
Can't believe there's been a few shouts for Ozil in here. He's not top shelf player don't get me wrong. But once you look past the hype he's still a class technical player
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Post by: Bally on April 18, 2017, 01:46:32 PM
Had a gal there once.....
What? in her kalamazoo? Is that why they sometime call it a hummer?
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Post by: Goaljira on July 19, 2017, 01:59:14 AM
Neymar.  And the ones from Spurs I didn't want to anti-jinx before the weekend were Kyle Walker and Danny Rose.

City and PSG making me look like a right cunt now.
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2017, 06:53:15 PM
City and PSG making me look like a right cunt now.

Yeah but PSG spunked £50m on sideshow bob whilst he was still a bit of a gimp.

Decent defender now like.