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Title: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on June 16, 2017, 04:02:02 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/06/15/klaassen

Happy days.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 16, 2017, 04:03:12 AM
60m in day
Niang, Sandro, Keane, sigurdsson to come maybe?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on June 16, 2017, 04:04:05 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/06/15/klaassen

Happy days.

Yay, it's an NSNO Virtual Dogging Party!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on June 16, 2017, 04:04:40 AM
£23.6M

Cheaper than we thought.

Imagine Niang gets announced at 11, my cock will fall off.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: D15TIN on June 16, 2017, 04:05:03 AM
JURRASIC PARK
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on June 16, 2017, 04:06:09 AM
The Contract Dave will never have splurged so much ink!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: boothill on June 16, 2017, 04:06:10 AM
bloody scary this :shock:
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: eame on June 16, 2017, 04:06:35 AM
Fook me what's going on!!! The Everton twitter feed on my phone hasn't bleeped so much!!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Confucius on June 16, 2017, 04:07:59 AM
The Contract Dave will never have splurged so much ink!

enough with this shit. He has a name and it's really insulting that...
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blueToffee on June 16, 2017, 04:08:56 AM
Early transfers (plural no less). Don't know how to handle this.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: D15TIN on June 16, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
Early transfers (plural no less). Don't know how to handle this.
Could potentially be 2 more tomorrow, important getting them in so quick, makes it so much easier.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: GLewis on June 16, 2017, 04:12:16 AM
Early transfers (plural no less). Don't know how to handle this.

This is before any of the 58 bids that Walsh was lashing around Italy on his modern, transfer version of the Grand Tour come through too ;)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on June 16, 2017, 04:14:20 AM
What's this 'Contract Dave' thing about?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Macca77 on June 16, 2017, 04:15:30 AM
60 odd million in a day, fuck sake Everton!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TSGun on June 16, 2017, 04:16:28 AM
Haha this is all too much.

Think I'll just go back to bed and call the day a win.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 16, 2017, 04:17:28 AM
What's this 'Contract Dave' thing about?
Another hilarious twitterism
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Trowel on June 16, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
Everton that.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on June 16, 2017, 04:18:00 AM
Class, nice an early
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: kramer0 on June 16, 2017, 04:31:24 AM
- Versatile midfielder with a great footballing brain.
- Talented shot-stopper with added distribution skills.
- Both players with their prime years ahead of them.

That's a fantastic day. And somehow, the best part is that we're doing significant business early in the summer, so the new signings have extra time to settle and adapt to their new teammates and Koeman and his staff have a clearer picture of what the squad is going to look like for the upcoming season. There are genuine benefits to getting transfers over the line early and I'm ecstatic that we're making a push in that direction.

If we can finalize deals for Sandro, Niang, and a centre back (preferably Keane) in the next week or so, that would be the start of a brilliant overhaul to an aging and disjointed squad. Someone like Keane would give us new life at centre back and Sandro/Niang look like the sort of pacy, technically-gifted, wide-forward-types that Koeman seems to want (even if I'm not totally sold on the latter, he does appear to have the profile of a player Koeman would like).

And I promise that if we rejuvenate the squad with four or five players age 24 and under now, I won't bitch when we sign the inevitable older player(s) later in the window. (Caveat: I will be irritated if we don't look for a long-term successor to Lukaku, like Iheanacho or Abraham.)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sixymack on June 16, 2017, 04:33:00 AM
Is he a player in the same mold as Hazard??

Is he a speed merchant as well??
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 16, 2017, 04:38:00 AM
Is he a player in the same mold as Hazard??

Is he a speed merchant as well??
Not at all
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2017, 04:42:53 AM
Seeing those 4 horsemen this morning is beginning to make sense now.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on June 16, 2017, 04:47:53 AM
Is he a player in the same mold as Hazard??

Is he a speed merchant as well??

He's a bit of a mix between Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 16, 2017, 04:50:06 AM
Is he a player in the same mold as Hazard??

Is he a speed merchant as well??
He's a more technical Cahill. A playmaker who has an eye for goal and puts himself about a lot. Us fans are gonna love him!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Silas on June 16, 2017, 05:00:54 AM
Fucking fuckity fucking get in
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Robioto on June 16, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
Have we just spent £56m in one day without selling anyone first in June?

What the fuck?

Amazing and incredibly exciting, this is probably just the beginning as well. :)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on June 16, 2017, 05:02:56 AM
This is before any of the 58 bids that Walsh was lashing around Italy on his modern, transfer version of the Grand Tour come through too ;)

Steve Walsh the old school PE teacher is now rolling off planes in Milan into chauffeur driven limos with briefcases full off wonga.

Mental.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 16, 2017, 05:04:06 AM
Heads gone.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on June 16, 2017, 05:04:49 AM
Heads well and truly fell off ere.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on June 16, 2017, 05:07:39 AM
Dazed and confused
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: YellowHold on June 16, 2017, 05:13:44 AM
Not seen a lot of him but will make a huge difference getting him a full pre season here first, especially with the Europa games, than if we'd snuck it in on deadline day.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 16, 2017, 05:13:53 AM
Ha ha And boom
Been waiting, I'm surprised it's took this long but an lfc fan finally stepped up and came out with

Hang on he said he spoke to koeman a few weeks back, that's tapping up
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on June 16, 2017, 05:15:40 AM
All this splurging and no sign of Bill K yet!

Hope hes ok.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bally on June 16, 2017, 05:18:16 AM
The Contract Dave will never have splurged so much ink!
#contractDave you mean
Will not have him called a nonce, he doesn't like it, and to be honest he's not a fucking nonce
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ari on June 16, 2017, 05:22:13 AM
£23.6M

Cheaper than we thought.

Imagine Niang gets announced at 11, my cock will fall off.
Early transfers (plural no less). Don't know how to handle this.

This is just so no one can moan about transfers anymore... ;)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sixymack on June 16, 2017, 05:25:24 AM
Can't wait for the press conference with Ron.  Their voice is identical lol
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ari on June 16, 2017, 05:25:43 AM
He's a bit of a mix between Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona.

...and Naismith.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Redartin on June 16, 2017, 05:26:48 AM
As Van the Man once said, "My mama told me there'll be days like this".

Another bonus about today is it also has to kill off all those  "where's the Arteta money Bill?" shouts, forever.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on June 16, 2017, 05:29:03 AM
#contractDave you mean
Will not have him called a nonce, he doesn't like it, and to be honest he's not a fucking nonce

Well no one can on here now.

boaty mcboatface
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ari on June 16, 2017, 05:31:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_A0o6rJ9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_A0o6rJ9U)

For Redartin
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ari on June 16, 2017, 05:37:28 AM
Why are some talking about Niang..?  is that the same Niang who rejected us for Milan?

(sry another thread)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 16, 2017, 05:57:52 AM
By the time June is out, there may be no room left for Rom, except in our memories and hearts.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 16, 2017, 06:15:46 AM
By the time June is out, there may be no room left for Rom, except in our memories and hearts.

Rom who?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2017, 06:53:17 AM
He's a bit of a mix between Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona.

Is he as good as the footballing god, Sigurdsen?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: hannu on June 16, 2017, 08:40:25 AM
Kiss my face
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 16, 2017, 08:59:19 AM
Be nice when other clubs start buying our cast offs...been a while
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on June 16, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XYkSdzl.jpg)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on June 16, 2017, 03:34:11 PM
Very rare we sign a playey who is 100% what we need

This is one of those rare occasions.

Ticks absolutley every box for us.

His goalscoring record is very impressive

10 in 26
6 in 30
13 in 31
14 in 33

Granted that's in the dutch league and players are very hit and miss when they come from Holland, but it translates well when he's played in Europe or at international level

6 in 16 in the europa
4 in 14 for Holland. Goals coming against Spain, Belgium and Ivory Coast

Really excited about this lad.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: hill135 on June 16, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
Yeah I'm also really excited.

Glad to see Ron using his knowledge of Dutch football to get us some players in like he did successfully at Southampton
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Toddacelli on June 16, 2017, 05:10:11 PM
Jackanackernory!

Lukaku now - "Am I getting a second contract?"
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on June 16, 2017, 05:18:58 PM
Jackanackernory!

Lukaku now - "Am I getting a second contract?"

Smell my cheese.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Tinga on June 16, 2017, 05:34:19 PM
Very rare we sign a playey who is 100% what we need

This is one of those rare occasions.

Ticks absolutley every box for us.

His goalscoring record is very impressive

10 in 26
6 in 30
13 in 31
14 in 33

Granted that's in the dutch league and players are very hit and miss when they come from Holland, but it translates well when he's played in Europe or at international level

6 in 16 in the europa
4 in 14 for Holland. Goals coming against Spain, Belgium and Ivory Coast

Really excited about this lad.

Let's hope he is of the same mold as Christian Eriksen.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: SteB on June 16, 2017, 06:04:40 PM
He's a bit of a mix between Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona.

...what, you mean like a new Colin Harvey?!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2017, 06:05:36 PM
He's nothing like Eriksen from all the clips and quotes I've seen. Koeman stressed his engine, his pressing and output of goals/assists.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on June 16, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Not too sure what to make of this. I hoped he would have deleted his number after last summer.

https://twitter.com/jimwhite/status/875465933585862656
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Trowel on June 16, 2017, 11:41:41 PM
:love:

http://www.football-oranje.com/davy-klaassen-everton-club-spoke/

Davy Klaassen: ”Everton is the only club I spoke to

The 24-year-old stated that he could have waited until the end of the transfer window to sign for a new club but he had such a good feeling at Everton that he signed for the first club he spoke to.

Klaassen said, ”I am delighted to sign for Everton and I have a good feeling about the club that was apparent when I went there yesterday.

”I spoke to Ronald Koeman a couple of weeks ago and my feeling about Everton was positive and he spoke about the plans that the club have for the future and the role that I will play.

”Koeman also told me that Everton want to score a lot of goals next season and use my attacking qualities .He was also very open and clear about what he wants to achieve with the club. The fact that Koeman is also Dutch means it will be easy to communicate with him.

”Everton is the only club I spoke to in regards to a transfer. I could have also waited until the end of the transfer window but if I have a good feeling I go for it. After the international games I knew that I wanted a new challenge. I was not planning to leave Ajax just for the sake of it.

”Goodison Park has a great atmosphere. England is also a footballing country and I believe that I will feel at home here.

”I have already seen the opening fixtures for the new Premier League season playing against Stoke City then Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur. I am looking forward to it and I want to play at the highest level.

”Everton finished 7th last season and our goal is to finish higher than that this coming season and close the gap between us and the top 6 and I hope to play a big part in that.”
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 16, 2017, 11:53:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XYkSdzl.jpg)
That is so wrong......
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on June 16, 2017, 11:56:51 PM
That is so wrong......

B-but it was the sp-spooky g-g-ghost 😳
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: arteta4spain on June 16, 2017, 11:58:00 PM
:love:

http://www.football-oranje.com/davy-klaassen-everton-club-spoke/

Davy Klaassen: ”Everton is the only club I spoke to

The 24-year-old stated that he could have waited until the end of the transfer window to sign for a new club but he had such a good feeling at Everton that he signed for the first club he spoke to.

Klaassen said, ”I am delighted to sign for Everton and I have a good feeling about the club that was apparent when I went there yesterday.

”I spoke to Ronald Koeman a couple of weeks ago and my feeling about Everton was positive and he spoke about the plans that the club have for the future and the role that I will play.

”Koeman also told me that Everton want to score a lot of goals next season and use my attacking qualities .He was also very open and clear about what he wants to achieve with the club. The fact that Koeman is also Dutch means it will be easy to communicate with him.

”Everton is the only club I spoke to in regards to a transfer. I could have also waited until the end of the transfer window but if I have a good feeling I go for it. After the international games I knew that I wanted a new challenge. I was not planning to leave Ajax just for the sake of it.

”Goodison Park has a great atmosphere. England is also a footballing country and I believe that I will feel at home here.

”I have already seen the opening fixtures for the new Premier League season playing against Stoke City then Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur. I am looking forward to it and I want to play at the highest level.

”Everton finished 7th last season and our goal is to finish higher than that this coming season and close the gap between us and the top 6 and I hope to play a big part in that.”
He's just keeps saying the right things. If we are successful he'll become a club legend. He's gonna get such an ovation when he comes out of the tunnel!
Title: Re: Summer Spending
Post by: pjk on June 30, 2017, 12:35:45 AM
A classy squad? Look at what some of the greats have got to say about Davy Klaassen, for example. We're signing some real quality. :)



 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/06/29/what-makes-klaassen-special
Title: Re: Summer Spending
Post by: arteta4spain on June 30, 2017, 02:40:37 AM
A classy squad? Look at what some of the greats have got to say about Davy Klaassen, for example. We're signing some real quality. :)



 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/06/29/what-makes-klaassen-special

Just been in the pub after work and my mate who's a die hard red if fuming we've landed Klaassen. He was watching the last few weeks of the erividise and said that he's boss. Won't be flashy but will run the midfield.
Said that Keane will be boss too. He couldn't handle it! 😂😂
Title: Re: Summer Spending
Post by: Brownie20 on June 30, 2017, 03:15:42 AM
Just been in the pub after work and my mate who's a die hard red if fuming we've landed Klaassen. He was watching the last few weeks of the erividise and said that he's boss. Won't be flashy but will run the midfield.
Said that Keane will be boss too. He couldn't handle it! 😂😂

You can smell the fear
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on July 01, 2017, 06:42:52 AM
Looks absolutely class.

Well worth watching this video

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on July 01, 2017, 07:20:43 AM
I've noticed some of the highly thought of football journalists are saying that getting Klassen is a masterstroke by Koeman and the fact he's in the premier has gone too unnoticed. He's very highly rated by them. I think they're shocked little old Everton have got him and they're starting to take a big interest in our recruitment policy.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Muttley on July 01, 2017, 10:43:36 AM
Great video Shogun, thanks. He's got such quick feet, a great turn, vision, and I love the way he passes the ball into the net! Imagine how many Lukaku would score with Klaassen feeding him?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ramjam on July 01, 2017, 01:23:01 PM
Super video, looks like the real deal, I love the way he shows for the ball all over the park, quick feet and sharp turn with a burst of pace. There's nothing to dislike here, tip my hat to Ronnie and Walsh for making this happen
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 01, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
Looks absolutely class.

Well worth watching this video


I must say that this is fairly fucking impressive. He look like he has the mental, physical and technical side of the game nailed down. I was particularly impressed with his first-touch and weight of pass. Also his variety of finishing. And add his awareness of those around him. Not to mention his determination. Plus the boy can turn on a six-pence. Fucks, I could keep going all day. I think we may have found a new fans favourite.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Trowel on July 08, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
Shaping up to be my new favourite player :)

https://twitter.com/Terry_Finnegan/status/883643370320560129
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on July 08, 2017, 06:37:02 PM
Yeah really excited about him and Sandro.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: KingdingalingNL on July 08, 2017, 07:43:30 PM
Shaping up to be my new favourite player :)

https://twitter.com/Terry_Finnegan/status/883643370320560129

Ermmmmm... not Klaassen!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueMaquis on July 08, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
I'm unable to decide between Klassen and Sandro who will go bald first
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Goaljira on July 09, 2017, 03:21:18 AM
Das Boot being linked in the other thread isnt the only submarine touted Everton thing tonight.

https://twitter.com/mattygainford1/status/883701054080258050

Who doesnt love Yellow Submarine?!

Credit to @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) who retweeted this.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on July 09, 2017, 06:42:08 AM
Looks absolutely class.

Well worth watching this video


Always wanted our own Lampard.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Tinga on July 09, 2017, 06:57:46 AM
Looks absolutely class.

Well worth watching this video


He looks like he reads the game so well, love intelligent players like that. It's also cool as fuck getting a player from the Ajax set up.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lazarou on July 09, 2017, 12:36:28 PM
Looks absolutely class.

Well worth watching this video


Thanks for the video. After watching that I cannot see how he cannot thrive in the Premier League, he has everything. His balance really impressed me and can create space for himself in tight situations, something you need in the PL. With Schneiderlin and Gana doing the dirty work will free him up to get on the ball. Only problem is where is Davies going to slot in?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: AllyBlue14 on July 09, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
I just have this feeling he's going to score in the derby. Don't know what it is, but he just seems like the kind of player who would thrive in that kind of atmosphere.

Imagine Pickford playing the ball to Keane, on to Klaassen who drives forward and lays it off to Rooney. Rooney slides in Sandro and he buries it in the top corner to win the derby - all players who wouldn't make it into the RS first team.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on July 14, 2017, 05:01:59 AM
Can anyone tell me how the lad played today?

Don't think I've seen him mentioned once.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Brownie20 on July 14, 2017, 05:04:37 AM
Can anyone tell me how the lad played today?

Don't think I've seen him mentioned once.

Echo says he was nice and tidy playing in a three with Morgan and McCarthy and he's not afraid to put a foot in
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2017, 05:05:35 AM
Can anyone tell me how the lad played today?

Don't think I've seen him mentioned once.

We were proper drab in the first half. Had about 38% possession or something when I looked around the 30 minute mark so it was difficult to really judge anyone. He got in a few forward positions which was nice despite nobody picking him out.

Watching Tom Davies in the second half, then I'm not sure Klaassen will be first choice.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on July 14, 2017, 01:45:15 PM
We were proper drab in the first half. Had about 38% possession or something when I looked around the 30 minute mark so it was difficult to really judge anyone. He got in a few forward positions which was nice despite nobody picking him out.

Watching Tom Davies in the second half, then I'm not sure Klaassen will be first choice.

Hm.

Thanks for the write up!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: beyondblue on July 28, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
Neat and tidy display with great intelligence last night. Some good one-twos and tackling. I do, however, fear he is going to become a boo-boy this season due to his lack of pace and flair.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on July 28, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Neat and tidy display with great intelligence last night. Some good one-twos and tackling. I do, however, fear he is going to become a boo-boy this season due to his lack of pace and flair.

Agree with the first bit, not the second. Think he'll be well liked and appreciated.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: velimski on July 28, 2017, 09:29:09 PM
Thought he was the best player on the pitch by quite some distance for the first 45 mins.

I never realised that he plays that far forward. Can see him getting into double for goals this season.

Definitely doesn't lack flair.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on July 28, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
Was in some great poisitions last night just never got found.

He will reach double figures this season I reckon.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on July 28, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
Lovely little player.

The game changed with the introductions of Sandro, and Davies, and Rooney dropping a tad deeper, but I was disappointed that Klaassen was withdrawn instead of Gana, because I think him and Davies together could be dynamite.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dazfrancis on July 28, 2017, 09:54:23 PM
We were crying out for his kind of link up play last season
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Escla on July 28, 2017, 10:12:06 PM
We were proper drab in the first half. Had about 38% possession or something when I looked around the 30 minute mark so it was difficult to really judge anyone. He got in a few forward positions which was nice despite nobody picking him out.

Watching Tom Davies in the second half, then I'm not sure Klaassen will be first choice.

We had 67% possession in the first half, just couldn't do anything with it as a team, Klaasen one of the best of the bunch.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on July 28, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
I didn't dislike what I saw, and he seemed to come alive the more frantic and up tempo the football was, I don't think he's that good on the ball though and the comparisons to naisy aren't a million miles away.
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Post by: Escla on July 28, 2017, 10:23:32 PM
I didn't dislike what I saw, and he seemed to come alive the more frantic and up tempo the football was, I don't think he's that good on the ball though and the comparisons to naisy aren't a million miles away.

The comparison to Naisy doesn't really go beyond his physical appearance from a distance , were you in the Upper Gwladys ? Heard someone behind me saying he looked like Naisy.
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Post by: Shogun on July 28, 2017, 10:49:20 PM
We had 67% possession in the first half, just couldn't do anything with it as a team, Klaasen one of the best of the bunch.

Check the time stamps bud
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Post by: brap2 on July 28, 2017, 11:13:19 PM
The comparison to Naisy doesn't really go beyond his physical appearance from a distance , were you in the Upper Gwladys ? Heard someone behind me saying he looked like Naisy.

Haha I was actually but I've heard that a lot.

I think he's diminutive, busy and looks to lay it off and get involved in the box but not really a baller.

Sounds exactly like naisy to me?
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Post by: SANA_DR0 on July 28, 2017, 11:20:42 PM
Klaassen is a baller, give him a month n watch :D
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Post by: ally2 on July 29, 2017, 12:13:37 AM
Yeah already you can see he's got that thing like Arteta had where you always know he's going to do the right thing and well. Technically very good and an eye for goal.
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Post by: Mick 1995 on August 04, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
On his way to being my favourite player in the squad.

Tidy. Gets the ball and in a touch or two it is moving to one of our players who are in a better position than Klaassen was when he received it.
Doesn't want to carry the ball, he want's to ping it and launch an attack.

Class above at the minute.
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Post by: Brownie20 on August 04, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
On his way to being my favourite player in the squad.

Tidy. Gets the ball and in a touch or two it is moving to one of our players who are in a better position than Klaassen was when he received it.
Doesn't want to carry the ball, he want's to ping it and launch an attack.

Class above at the minute.

Yeah I like him a lot. Imagine when everyone gets on his wavelength too
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Post by: Mick 1995 on August 04, 2017, 02:28:55 PM
Yeah I like him a lot. Imagine when everyone gets on his wavelength too

Or he has a player or two that will actually run in the right direction for an entire game (like DCL did last night)
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Post by: Lazarou on August 04, 2017, 02:34:11 PM
Felt like Rooney was getting in his way last night and dragging defenders with him so that his area of the field was congested. Can the two play together? When DCL went down the middle it opened things up for Klaasen.
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Post by: Mick 1995 on August 04, 2017, 02:42:02 PM
Felt like Rooney was getting in his way last night and dragging defenders with him so that his area of the field was congested. Can the two play together? When DCL went down the middle it opened things up for Klaasen.

Rooney still has bags and bags of ability and you could see, at times, last night that he has been a genuinely world class player.

But you are right, at one point last night i saw him lay off the ball from our right back position. Considering the attention he gets, he will definitely interfere with other players' game if he is marauding all over the pitch. (which happens the more he gets frustrated)
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Post by: Brownie20 on August 04, 2017, 02:52:47 PM
Rooney still has bags and bags of ability and you could see, at times, last night that he has been a genuinely world class player.

But you are right, at one point last night i saw him lay off the ball from our right back position. Considering the attention he gets, he will definitely interfere with other players' game if he is marauding all over the pitch. (which happens the more he gets frustrated)

Those little flicks down the left to Baines were sublime
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Post by: brap2 on August 04, 2017, 03:11:19 PM
Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.
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Post by: Lazarou on August 04, 2017, 03:19:54 PM
Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.

I don't think we will see the best of him while Rooney is occupying similar areas of the pitch. He obviously has talent but plays very centrally so you have Rooney dropping back and Klaasen moving forward into the same areas.
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Post by: Mick 1995 on August 04, 2017, 04:01:12 PM
Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.

When i was looking through this thread i saw your earlier comment and recognised that you haven't 'got' him yet.

Think of all the plaudits Kante & Gana get for doing all of their little, crucial bits in between our D and the centre circle.
Klaassen is the attacking equivilent inbetween the cenre circle and their D. The interceptions and pressing are the same for both roles. But where the defensive side are making tackles, Klaassen is looking to make a key pass. With a decent striker this lads assists will be quite high. The amount of times he 'sets up' an assister will be astronomical though. ALL of our play is going to be going through him.
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Post by: TheRam on August 04, 2017, 04:04:45 PM
Big fan.

Clever player with a good touch.
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Post by: pjk on August 04, 2017, 04:08:33 PM
When i was looking through this thread i saw your earlier comment and recognised that you haven't 'got' him yet.

Think of all the plaudits Kante & Gana get for doing all of their little, crucial bits in between our D and the centre circle.
Klaassen is the attacking equivilent inbetween the cenre circle and their D. The interceptions and pressing are the same for both roles. But where the defensive side are making tackles, Klaassen is looking to make a key pass. With a decent striker this lads assists will be quite high. The amount of times he 'sets up' an assister will be astronomical though. ALL of our play is going to be going through him.




It looks like he's our next captain. He's in control of his decision making and temperament and imo, most importantly, his awareness is top drawer.
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Post by: Brownie20 on August 04, 2017, 04:09:52 PM
Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.

He's neat and tidy on the ball, looks to get it moving, plays with his head up and not afraid to get stuck in. He was a bit quiet yesterday but there are some very positive signs
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Post by: Lxxx on August 04, 2017, 04:11:11 PM
It'll take a bit of time for him and Rooney to work out how they dovetail but they're both clever players so when they do I can well imagine him being the one arriving late into the box to finish a move off. Something we've lacked since Cahill.
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Post by: Cassius on August 04, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
When i was looking through this thread i saw your earlier comment and recognised that you haven't 'got' him yet.

Think of all the plaudits Kante & Gana get for doing all of their little, crucial bits in between our D and the centre circle.
Klaassen is the attacking equivilent inbetween the cenre circle and their D. The interceptions and pressing are the same for both roles. But where the defensive side are making tackles, Klaassen is looking to make a key pass. With a decent striker this lads assists will be quite high. The amount of times he 'sets up' an assister will be astronomical though. ALL of our play is going to be going through him.

While I was watching the game, I was thinking how these crucial, but relatively small contributions and often without flare, might make him a bit of a boo boy this season.

He's almost the opposite of Mirallas for me - focuses on keeping the play moving and involving others selflessly.
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Post by: brap2 on August 04, 2017, 04:20:28 PM
When i was looking through this thread i saw your earlier comment and recognised that you haven't 'got' him yet.

Think of all the plaudits Kante & Gana get for doing all of their little, crucial bits in between our D and the centre circle.
Klaassen is the attacking equivilent inbetween the cenre circle and their D. The interceptions and pressing are the same for both roles. But where the defensive side are making tackles, Klaassen is looking to make a key pass. With a decent striker this lads assists will be quite high. The amount of times he 'sets up' an assister will be astronomical though. ALL of our play is going to be going through him.

Hopefullly, still backing him but definitely hard to pin down what his job is at the moment other than 'get involved'.
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Post by: Mick 1995 on August 04, 2017, 04:23:35 PM
Hopefullly, still backing him but definitely hard to pin down what his job is at the moment other than 'get involved'.

I've not seen anybody as clever in possession with the ball since Pienaar. I think that's what gives me so much hope.
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Post by: mikey_blue on August 04, 2017, 04:25:25 PM
I've just put him in my FF team. Going to bang them in this season.
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Post by: hill135 on August 04, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
Promising signs for me.

He wins the ball back in the final third a good few times a game too.
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Post by: Gary1878 on August 04, 2017, 04:33:29 PM
For me, I am not sure i mind if he is quiet all game long, as long as he provides the big passes when they matter. Too often, Barkley looks nice with the ball, but then is a big let down with the final pass - If Klaassen improves this and we sufficiently replace Lukaku then we will be in business.
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Post by: GLewis on August 04, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
I'd have said that he looks like he'll have a good understanding with Rooney from what I've seen in these two games.
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Post by: Rhys on August 04, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
On his way to being my favourite player in the squad.

I think he will be someone who divides opinions with the fans.

What we did when he got the ball last night was good, very quick thinking and always looking for a first time pace and moving straight away. We saw in the home game he got in and around the box very well so will get some goals.

On the flip side he was invisible for a lot of the game last night similar to the Europa League final against United when he needed to almost demand the ball that bit more. That and he has doesnt have much pace or power games may well pass him by when he isnt playing well.

So i think some fans will really rate him, and others will think he offers very little aside from the odd goal.
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Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 04, 2017, 05:27:29 PM
I've hardly noticed him at all. Which I think is a good thing, except when I have noticed him I've thought ooo there's Naismith <shudders>

I think he'll prove to be a top quality cog in a well constructed and oiled system.
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Post by: American Evertonian on August 04, 2017, 06:12:14 PM
For me, I am not sure i mind if he is quiet all game long, as long as he provides the big passes when they matter. Too often, Barkley looks nice with the ball, but then is a big let down with the final pass - If Klaassen improves this and we sufficiently replace Lukaku then we will be in business.

This last part I believe rings true. I don't think we will completely realize his utility as an attacker until we sign a proper striker. Think this will help us more than Gylfi will
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Post by: blargins on August 04, 2017, 06:42:46 PM
He reminds me of a cross between Naismith and Pienaar.
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Post by: blueToffee on August 04, 2017, 06:53:49 PM
He reminds me of a cross between Naismith and Pienaar.

Nainaar?

It almost sounds like a 200 mil player :)
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Post by: brap2 on August 04, 2017, 07:34:39 PM
I've not seen anybody as clever in possession with the ball since Pienaar. I think that's what gives me so much hope.

Yeah, I like his first time balls and stuff, he's tidy but he's not blowing me away with cleverness particularly.

His passing and game involvement stats from the rest of his career would point to a tidy, busy player who doesn't get too involved in moving the ball or building play, but will very happily lay on the final ball or goal, I'd be surprised if he deviates from that and so far he hasn't so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Like I say I'm still backing him and I think he'll do well but I don't think he's been particularly impressive in regards to pure midfield play.
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Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 04, 2017, 08:04:50 PM
Nainaar?

It almost sounds like a 200 mil player :)

Or an ambulance.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on August 04, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Yeah, I like his first time balls and stuff, he's tidy but he's not blowing me away with cleverness particularly.

His passing and game involvement stats from the rest of his career would point to a tidy, busy player who doesn't get too involved in moving the ball or building play, but will very happily lay on the final ball or goal, I'd be surprised if he deviates from that and so far he hasn't so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Like I say I'm still backing him and I think he'll do well but I don't think he's been particularly impressive in regards to pure midfield play.

3...games.... my god.
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Post by: blargins on August 04, 2017, 09:10:04 PM
3...games.... my god.

I'm really not sure what people are expecting. I think it's going to take us best part of half a season before players in this brand new team settle and starts gelling well.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on August 04, 2017, 09:10:59 PM
I'm really not sure what people are expecting. I think it's going to take us best part of half a season before players in this brand new team settle and starts gelling well.

Mad isnt it!! im actually in disbelief at some of the comments.
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Post by: blargins on August 04, 2017, 09:22:01 PM
Mad isnt it!! im actually in disbelief at some of the comments.

The fact we are a new team and are unbeaten so far with just one goal conceded, to me breeds hope and a good start. And money never guarantees success anyway.
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Post by: brap2 on August 05, 2017, 02:04:49 AM
3...games.... my god.

Right so I shooouuullldddd not give an opinion?
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Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 05, 2017, 02:06:21 AM
think he would be perfect in the middle with a 2 either side (433) ghana and morgan/davies

we need that creativity from deeper.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on August 05, 2017, 02:18:00 AM
Right so I shooouuullldddd not give an opinion?

Give your opinion all you like, im just saying its bloody crazy.
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Post by: 74Blue on August 05, 2017, 09:43:16 PM
Nainaar?

It almost sounds like a 200 mil player :)
Whereas Rooney's always been more of a Piesmith
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Post by: gizzblue on August 05, 2017, 11:30:26 PM
Would love to see him without Fat arse Rooney in his way constantly (on the bench or at home on the couch eating crisp)....Klassen looks the part but hard to tell without movement I  front .....behind DCL hed be better ....come on Koeman you know it makes sense ...bench Rooney for the next friendly.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on August 05, 2017, 11:33:55 PM
Would love to see him without Fat arse Rooney in his way constantly (on the bench or at home on the couch eating crisp)....Klassen looks the part but hard to tell without movement I  front .....behind DCL hed be better ....come on Koeman you know it makes sense ...bench Rooney for the next friendly.

oh aye yeah, mega fat Rooney isnt he... ::)
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Post by: Lxxx on August 05, 2017, 11:53:59 PM
Fuckin hell this thread is a bit depressing already.
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Post by: Trowel on August 06, 2017, 05:37:06 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/05/exclusive-davy-klaassen-interview-dennis-bergkamp-always-player/amp/

Davy Klaassen was packing his bags ready for the £25 million move to Everton when a text arrived.

“Good choice,” it read.

It came from Dennis Bergkamp
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Post by: blargins on August 06, 2017, 08:51:33 AM
Bergkamp was my favorite non Everton player.
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Post by: MrWhite on August 06, 2017, 10:04:45 AM
The fact we are a new team and are unbeaten so far with just one goal conceded, to me breeds hope and a good start. And money never guarantees success anyway.
While I completely agree with the spirit of your post, I must point out we've conceded two goals.
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Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 06, 2017, 11:17:31 AM
Bergkamp was my favorite non Everton player.
magical ,majestic,modest,midfield maestro.....one of the very best.
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Post by: BlueNoseMike on August 06, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
Comes across well this guy, a definite leader on the pitch once he finds his feet. Credits Heitinga with swaying him too.

Also shows the effort Koeman went to getting him. Liked the look of him so far, Tends to make the right choice on a regular basis and I can see him racking up assists and controlling play. Has a touch of the Iniesta's about him for mine
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Post by: brap2 on August 08, 2017, 03:53:01 PM
Watched sandro's goal yesterday and spied Klaassen's defence splitting diagonal run as the ball is played.

He is on his toes looking for space and looking to get beyond.

He's going to do fine, I'm sold.
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Post by: TheRam on August 08, 2017, 04:01:25 PM
Watched sandro's goal yesterday and spied Klaassen's defence splitting diagonal run as the ball is played.

He is on his toes looking for space and looking to get beyond.

He's going to do fine, I'm sold.

You'll soon forget about Ross Barkley once this fella hits his stride
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Post by: brap2 on August 08, 2017, 04:26:11 PM
You'll soon forget about Ross Barkley once this fella hits his stride

Yeah Ross would have still been on the half way line with his hands on his hips.

Our Davvy's legging it into the box sniffing out chances.
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Post by: Lxxx on August 08, 2017, 06:54:21 PM
Yeah Ross would have still been on the half way line with his hands on his hips.

Our Davvy's legging it into the box sniffing out chances.

Which we haven't had from midfield since Cahill.
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Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Davy 'one touch passen' Klaassen
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Post by: Cods on August 18, 2017, 06:44:53 PM
Gylfi even will be doing well to get close to the amount of Klaassy assists I can see Davy making this season.

His quick thinking and quick feet will help our rather slow front line.
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Post by: Lxxx on August 18, 2017, 06:47:06 PM
Gylfi even will be doing well to get close to the amount of Klaassy assists I can see Davy making this season.

His quick thinking and quick feet will help our rather slow front line.

Watching how Mirallas and Baines linked up last night when he stayed on the touchline for once makes me think it can only get better with an axis of Baines, Sig and Klassen as a little triangle of quick thinking, clever players like Ossie, Pienaar and Baines in their pomp.
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Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:00:30 PM
He's deffo not a CM though. Doesn't look like he wants the ball, doesn't seek it out.

But comes alive around the box though.
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Post by: AllyBlue14 on August 18, 2017, 07:07:44 PM
He's deffo not a CM though. Doesn't look like he wants the ball, doesn't seek it out.

But comes alive around the box though.

Yeah, too lightweight at times. Which is how Pienaar started off but he found a way to adapt and almost use it to his favour.

Hopefully Davy can do the same, because he could be a great acquisition.

Might it be worth trying him on the left, perhaps, as a potential link-up to Baines?
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Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:18:06 PM
Yeah, too lightweight at times. Which is how Pienaar started off but he found a way to adapt and almost use it to his favour.

Hopefully Davy can do the same, because he could be a great acquisition.

Might it be worth trying him on the left, perhaps, as a potential link-up to Baines?

Personally think we want him right on that edge of the box area, only issue is we want Rooney and Sig there as well I suppose.

Wouldn't be against seeing him out there and would rather him on the pitch than Mirallas for instance.
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Post by: Macca77 on August 18, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
He will get a lot better once he is used to the faster pace of the premier league, brilliant signing
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Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
He looks better the quicker the passing is. All the slow build up stuff he just disappears.
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Post by: Lxxx on August 18, 2017, 07:38:32 PM
Saw a glimpse last night where it was Baines to Klaassen who did an immediate back flick, Pienaar-esque, to Rooney on the edge of the box. It's this kind of play that will open up defences as we don't have pace or power up top like we did with Lukaku.
Add Sig in the mix and there is now enough in there to be able to open up most defences now, it's just whether we can put the ball in the net regularly enough.
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Post by: GLewis on August 18, 2017, 07:49:30 PM
Saw a glimpse last night where it was Baines to Klaassen who did an immediate back flick, Pienaar-esque, to Rooney on the edge of the box. It's this kind of play that will open up defences as we don't have pace or power up top like we did with Lukaku.
Add Sig in the mix and there is now enough in there to be able to open up most defences now, it's just whether we can put the ball in the net regularly enough.

Yeah I'm fairly optimistic re our edge of the box play.

That's the situation we should be in more often than not (we're not going to need 3 pace merchants on the break that often in a season) so it's where we need to be very good.

Re putting it in the net, we're going to have to get used to the fact that Lukaku was one of the top finishers around.

Whoever is playing is very likely to not be as good.

We therefore need to increase chance creation so that a lower conversion rate still results in more goals.
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Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
Yeah I'm fairly optimistic re our edge of the box play.

That's the situation we should be in more often than not (we're not going to need 3 pace merchants on the break that often in a season) so it's where we need to be very good.

Re putting it in the net, we're going to have to get used to the fact that Lukaku was one of the top finishers around.

Whoever is playing is very likely to not be as good.

We therefore need to increase chance creation so that a lower conversion rate still results in more goals.

Encouraged by Schneiderlin's superb regista style performance first half as well.

Demand the ball, switch it.

Demand the ball, switch it.

They were pegged into their own box while we explored for gaps which is exactly what you should do. In the past we'd have maybe skied a Barkley shot or hit a Deulofeu cross into the first man.
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Post by: Cozzie on August 18, 2017, 11:48:54 PM
Last night was his best game for us I reckon. Exactly what he was all about.

Assisting the assister.is very Pienaar like and I can see the comparisons.

He was tenacious in winning the ball back yesterday and his hard work will make us love him to bits. Been a few times as well where he has found space but has not been picked out.

Once everyone gels he will be instrumental in how we play I reckon.
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Post by: Sir Stealth on August 18, 2017, 11:58:09 PM
I mentioned it in the matchday thread from yesterday, but there seems to be a strange think happening on my twitter timeline with regards to fan thoughts on Klaassen

Loads of people defending him and saying stuff like 'if you think Klaassen is shit you know nothing about football' etc

Yet I can't actually see anyone slating him!hes been involved in pretty much every goal we've scored in the European games and in Rooneys goal against Stoke

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Post by: MrWhite on August 19, 2017, 01:03:01 AM
I mentioned it in the matchday thread from yesterday, but there seems to be a strange think happening on my twitter timeline with regards to fan thoughts on Klaassen

Loads of people defending him and saying stuff like 'if you think Klaassen is shit you know nothing about football' etc

Yet I can't actually see anyone slating him!hes been involved in pretty much every goal we've scored in the European games and in Rooneys goal against Stoke
Is that a hangover from the "Where will Sig play" debate? Few people dropping Klaassen on here for their preferred team so perhaps the same was generally true and some read this as "he is shit"?
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Post by: Goaljira on August 19, 2017, 01:47:24 AM
I mentioned it in the matchday thread from yesterday, but there seems to be a strange think happening on my twitter timeline with regards to fan thoughts on Klaassen

Loads of people defending him and saying stuff like 'if you think Klaassen is shit you know nothing about football' etc

Yet I can't actually see anyone slating him!hes been involved in pretty much every goal we've scored in the European games and in Rooneys goal against Stoke

Theres been criticism in all of the pre-season games, and on Saturday he was getting criticised.

Attached message from my brother who was in the top balcony.

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Post by: Shogun on August 19, 2017, 01:59:25 AM
Theres been criticism in all of the pre-season games, and on Saturday he was getting criticised.

Attached message from my brother who was in the top balcony.

The match is weird though.

I spent 90 minutes hearing about how shit Mirallas was on Thursday night and then read people praising him on here when I got home.
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Post by: Escla on August 19, 2017, 02:07:54 AM
I mentioned it in the matchday thread from yesterday, but there seems to be a strange think happening on my twitter timeline with regards to fan thoughts on Klaassen

Loads of people defending him and saying stuff like 'if you think Klaassen is shit you know nothing about football' etc

Yet I can't actually see anyone slating him!hes been involved in pretty much every goal we've scored in the European games and in Rooneys goal against Stoke

There are those critics who have no understanding of how the game works, have never seen him play but
see/read he has been substituted and can only put 2+2 together, get 5 and think he must have been shit !
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: gizzblue on August 19, 2017, 02:11:24 AM
He's settling in nicely and will only go from strength to strength. ..Pure Klass'en
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: schleffera on August 19, 2017, 03:47:02 AM
There's quite a bit made
of the need for pace, which is fine, but it looks like we already might have it, by way of speed of thought and feet from Davy, Rooney, plus Sig etc. skinning cats and all that.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cods on August 19, 2017, 08:06:07 AM
Assisting the assister.is very Pienaar like and I can see the comparisons.
Exactly this, creating to assist the assister. The third last touch before it ruffles the net.
( Shame I don't think this scores highly in fantasy premier league. )
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: GLewis on August 19, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
The match is weird though.

I spent 90 minutes hearing about how shit Mirallas was on Thursday night and then read people praising him on here when I got home.

Must have been sat next to me and @Rhys (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=366) :)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on August 19, 2017, 05:21:27 PM
The match is weird though.

I spent 90 minutes hearing about how shit Mirallas was on Thursday night and then read people praising him on here when I got home.

He's our most consistent player I think.

Every single performance seems to be exactly the same.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Tinga on August 19, 2017, 05:27:21 PM
It's very early doors but I'm not really sure what he offers us right now.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bally on August 19, 2017, 05:42:09 PM
It's very early doors but I'm not really sure what he offers us right now.
Assists and important tackles, and he's still only getting used to the Prem, Ram pointed out in the podcast the game does seem to pass him by a little, but when he's there the work gets done
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 19, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
The game passes him by at the minute, only slightly, as his game isn't about individual ability. It's about linking up, pass and move, dragging players with him. Until he gets up to speed both with the Premier League and his new team-mates we won't see the best of him.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on August 19, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
I don't think the game passes him by. He's had lots of valuable input already. The first touch pass for the chance Rooney should've scored on Thursday was sublime.

I like the way Koeman is playing him, but easing him in, and taking him off before the end.

Really pleased with him as a signing, and I honestly wonder if people questioning/criticising him understand football on any level.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blargins on August 19, 2017, 06:23:57 PM
I don't think the game passes him by. He's had lots of valuable input already. The first touch pass for the chance Rooney should've scored on Thursday was sublime.

I like the way Koeman is playing him, but easing him in, and taking him off before the end.

Really pleased with him as a signing, and I honestly wonder if people questioning/criticising him understand football on any level.

He's going to be great for us. We've missed a sneaky player who plays these little through passes and balls for ages. He's a very clever player.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on August 19, 2017, 06:36:51 PM
I love him. Technical ability, intelligence of movement and an eye for goal.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 19, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
Looks a cracking player. Takes one touch when most would take 3.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: sam of the south on August 19, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
I've got a feeling that Klaassen, Sigurdsson, and Rooney are going to achieve telepathic levels of great interplay this season
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2017, 06:49:07 PM
I think he'll settle in and become a very good buy but that's probably because he looks like Naismith. ;) I can see why people see a comparison, they look similar and even run similarly and make the same kind of intelligent runs but technically he's far better than him. I can see him getting a decent tally of goals and assists.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: D_murph0278 on August 19, 2017, 07:19:11 PM
I think he'll settle in and become a very good buy but that's probably because he looks like Naismith. ;) I can see why people see a comparison, they look similar and even run similarly and make the same kind of intelligent runs but technically he's far better than him. I can see him getting a decent tally of goals and assists.

I'm not sure how you can say that tbh. He's been really average so far and I'd have Davies instead of him against city and Split.
I'd like to think he'll reproduce his Ajax form for us as the season goes on... but then again, it was the Dutch league!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: toffee_scot on August 19, 2017, 07:23:39 PM
I can't wait until he scores his first goal for us, I think that will give him a huge boost and see him develop into a key player for us.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Gash on August 19, 2017, 07:25:31 PM

I'm not sure how you can say that tbh. He's been really average so far and I'd have Davies instead of him against city and Split.
I'd like to think he'll reproduce his Ajax form for us as the season goes on... but then again, it was the Dutch league!

He's been directly involved in a few chances and goals already and was unlucky not to score the other night. He's got good movement and ability, he's also very good at closing down players with the ball, something we've not always had from a player higher up the pitch. People need to get over this "Dutch League" syndrome that they've got, it's hardly the SPFL especially as the team he played for got to the Europa League Final last season.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 19, 2017, 07:32:00 PM
He'll get better every game. As his game isn't about being on the ball like Schneiderlin, or charging around like Gueye or as all action as Rooney it might be perceived as he's not doing anything. Until you analyse all the goals we score and he plays a part in every one of them.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on August 19, 2017, 07:49:18 PM

I'm not sure how you can say that tbh. He's been really average so far and I'd have Davies instead of him against city and Split.
I'd like to think he'll reproduce his Ajax form for us as the season goes on... but then again, it was the Dutch league!

This is how he played for Ajax by the way.

Doesn't pass much, doesn't take many touches, doesn't get involved in play middle of the pitch - just very, very productive in terms of popping up with goals, assists and pre assists.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 19, 2017, 08:47:33 PM
I think he'll settle in and become a very good buy but that's probably because he looks like Naismith. ;) I can see why people see a comparison, they look similar and even run similarly and make the same kind of intelligent runs but technically he's far better than him. I can see him getting a decent tally of goals and assists.
I can see him getting lots of assist the assister pts and a lot of our fans questioning what he brings to the table
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on August 19, 2017, 09:04:30 PM
I think he'll assist the assister of assists a lot
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dazfrancis on August 19, 2017, 10:51:58 PM
This is how he played for Ajax by the way.

Doesn't pass much, doesn't take many touches, doesn't get involved in play middle of the pitch - just very, very productive in terms of popping up with goals, assists and pre assists.


Basically what we we're in previous seasons when we struggled to break teams down.

It always baffles me how quickly our fans write new players off.

Another examples is Rooney being "past it".
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ForzaItalia on August 19, 2017, 10:59:56 PM
I don't think the game passes him by. He's had lots of valuable input already. The first touch pass for the chance Rooney should've scored on Thursday was sublime.

I like the way Koeman is playing him, but easing him in, and taking him off before the end.

Really pleased with him as a signing, and I honestly wonder if people questioning/criticising him understand football on any level.

Spot on and couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 19, 2017, 11:11:46 PM
I don't think the game passes him by. He's had lots of valuable input already. The first touch pass for the chance Rooney should've scored on Thursday was sublime.

I like the way Koeman is playing him, but easing him in, and taking him off before the end.

Really pleased with him as a signing, and I honestly wonder if people questioning/criticising him understand football on any level.

Whilst I agree with you on Klaassen everyone is entitled to an opinion. It's a bit condescending to question other poster's knowledge of the game just because they hold a differing view.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on August 19, 2017, 11:14:25 PM
Whilst I agree with you on Klaassen everyone is entitled to an opinion. It's a bit condescending to question other poster's knowledge of the game just because they hold a differing view.

Nah, just an honest opinion.

You think everything's condescending. Perhaps you've got an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 19, 2017, 11:16:19 PM
Nah, just an honest opinion.

You think everything's condescending. Perhaps you've got an inferiority complex?

Haha.

Okay love.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on August 19, 2017, 11:25:23 PM
Haha.

Okay love.

Wasn't even aimed at you, or anyone in particular so not really sure why you've chimed in.

We give opinions, and sometimes they conflict with and contradict someone else's opinion. So inherently there we are saying 'I think I'm right and you are wrong about this thing'. You could argue that's condescending. I gave an opinion that wasn't particularly inflammatory on a forum, and you're more than entitled to disagree with it, and I promise I won't feel condescended to.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: van der Meyde on August 19, 2017, 11:56:16 PM
@brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) is spot on anyway. He regularly had the fewest touches of any player for Ajax and the Netherlands.

If he keeps up his knack of getting on the end of things, he'll keep most people happy. I don't think the accusations of the game passing him by will ever disappear though.
I think he'll assist the assister of assists a lot
Two of those 'secondary' assists, one actual assist this season. (Yes, I'm keeping track - I have a spreadsheet and everything.)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2017, 12:01:20 AM
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Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2017, 12:02:19 AM
Wasn't even aimed at you, or anyone in particular so not really sure why you've chimed in.

We give opinions, and sometimes they conflict with and contradict someone else's opinion. So inherently there we are saying 'I think I'm right and you are wrong about this thing'. You could argue that's condescending. I gave an opinion that wasn't particularly inflammatory on a forum, and you're more than entitled to disagree with it, and I promise I won't feel condescended to.

Like I said I agree with you about Klaassen, I think he's an intelligent player, but if someone else doesn't see it I wouldn't think they don't understand football. They just might judge players differently and have another opinion.

As you were.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2017, 12:07:07 AM
Like I said I agree with you about Klaassen, I think he's an intelligent player, but if someone else doesn't see it I wouldn't think they don't understand football. They just might judge players differently and have another opinion.

As you were.

They might, and if they gave some sort of vaguely understandable reason other than 'he doesn't do anything', fair enough, but the bits of criticism I've seen have been along those line.

Anyway, not arguing as I said.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ell Capitan on August 20, 2017, 12:22:02 AM
I think he looks fucking quality. All the more impressive given how new he is to the league.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2017, 02:49:23 AM
Basically what we we're in previous seasons when we struggled to break teams down.

It always baffles me how quickly our fans write new players off.

Another examples is Rooney being "past it".

Have to admit I was against Rooney. Watching him play for United, he looked more and more finished.

He's really impressed me though and I think it was a great move actually. Looking forward to watching him this year.

Don't want him up front all season though. Waste imo. Get him on the ball and get him in the game, let DCL run the channels.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dunkster on August 20, 2017, 02:56:04 AM
We certainly never improved when klaassen went off.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blargins on August 20, 2017, 04:12:34 AM
Have to admit I was against Rooney. Watching him play for United, he looked more and more finished.

He's really impressed me though and I think it was a great move actually. Looking forward to watching him this year.

Don't want him up front all season though. Waste imo. Get him on the ball and get him in the game, let DCL run the channels.

I think he'd lost all motivation at Utd. He'd done it all, he'd become a bit part player and he really had nothing less to strive for. I was dubious about his return, but he looks alive again, and motivated. He's done well so far, and is obviously relishing the challenge of making us great again.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2017, 05:51:15 AM
Have to admit I was against Rooney. Watching him play for United, he looked more and more finished.

He's really impressed me though and I think it was a great move actually. Looking forward to watching him this year.

Don't want him up front all season though. Waste imo. Get him on the ball and get him in the game, let DCL run the channels.

I'm of the opposite opinion. So far up top he's looked motivated, decent and tried to make runs off the last defender and just been unlucky.
When he's dropped back he's looked a little crowded out.

Get Sig playing and he'll find him in and around the box more times than not. Let's use him as a No 9 until his legs can't push him at this tempo any longer, which is probably after Xmas the start he's made.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 20, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
I've got a feeling that Klaassen, Sigurdsson, and Rooney are going to achieve telepathic levels of great interplay this season
Leighton has been waiting patiently for us to recruit more telepaths like him.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dazfrancis on August 20, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
I'm of the opposite opinion. So far up top he's looked motivated, decent and tried to make runs off the last defender and just been unlucky.
When he's dropped back he's looked a little crowded out.

Get Sig playing and he'll find him in and around the box more times than not. Let's use him as a No 9 until his legs can't push him at this tempo any longer, which is probably after Xmas the start he's made.
Rooney definitely drops too deep sometimes. He's one of the best scorers in our team and he should be playing as far forward as possible to give himself goalscoring chances if not necessarily leading the line.

The thought of him, Klaasen, sigurdson and baines linking up does get the juices flowing
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 21, 2017, 10:19:41 PM
I just want to reinforce the Klaassen love really.

Without him, neither of those goals happen against Hajduk Split.

Sure something else might have happened instead but he factually made both goals happen just as much as the players actually credited with an assist (Baines and Rooney).

Personally not keen on the Naismith comparisons beyond complementing his work ethic.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Polledreng on August 21, 2017, 10:31:39 PM
I just want to reinforce the Klaassen love really.

Without him, neither of those goals happen against Hajduk Split.

Sure something else might have happened instead but he factually made both goals happen just as much as the players actually credited with an assist (Baines and Rooney).

Personally not keen on the Naismith comparisons beyond complementing his work ethic.
Spot on. Loved Naismith but Klaassen is different class
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 21, 2017, 11:28:32 PM
I just want to reinforce the Klaassen love really.

Without him, neither of those goals happen against Hajduk Split.

Sure something else might have happened instead but he factually made both goals happen just as much as the players actually credited with an assist (Baines and Rooney).

Personally not keen on the Naismith comparisons beyond complementing his work ethic.

That hair tho?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 04:13:13 AM
Can't wait for the first shout about Klaassen doing fuck all here.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 04:21:38 AM
The lads miles off in the premier league.

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 04:23:15 AM
He's been a bit underwhelming so far but it's early days.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dazfrancis on August 22, 2017, 07:15:12 PM
Leighton Baines was shite in his first season. Should have binned him off when we he had the chance.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on August 22, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
The good thing about the new Everton is, we are not getting sucker punched at the end of games. Pickfords save against Stoke, and Klaassens goal saving interception against City. I think this will become something of a recurring theme this season. The goal from Stirling
late on was down to Holgates inexperience. He had a very good game other than that. :)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 22, 2017, 07:33:17 PM
Bring back Naismith.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 07:33:33 PM
Surely he's got to be given a full season before we can properly evaluate him.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
Surely he's got to be given a full season before we can properly evaluate him.

Of course he has - but don't expect some to.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 22, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
Of course he has - but don't expect some to.

Im more than willing to. However my expectations were for a level of performance a lot higher than what we've seen so far. Ajax captain and all that jazz.

Yours sincerely,

Disappointed of Gloucestershire 
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 07:57:29 PM
Surely he's got to be given a full season before we can properly evaluate him.

People are going to react game by game until we have a longer playing period to judge from. Nobody in the match ratings thread is going to say let's wait a season before I give him a score. I think he's at his best in or around the box, but maybe yesterday wasn't the game for him to do that? The speed of the games in the PL seem to be an issue for him so far, in general play last night he seemed to be chasing shadows a bit.

We'll see how he does across the season, but perhaps the games where we expect to have more of the ball would be the ones he'd be better suited for.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 08:27:11 PM
I'm willing to give him more than 5 games before writing him off.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 08:28:59 PM
People are going to react game by game until we have a longer playing period to judge from. Nobody in the match ratings thread is going to say let's wait a season before I give him a score. I think he's at his best in or around the box, but maybe yesterday wasn't the game for him to do that? The speed of the games in the PL seem to be an issue for him so far, in general play last night he seemed to be chasing shadows a bit.

We'll see how he does across the season, but perhaps the games where we expect to have more of the ball would be the ones he'd be better suited for.

Be interesting to see how he finds his feet once we get these tough fixtures out the way, if he gets more time on the ball against lower opposition then we may see more of what he is about, last nights match was on full throttle from the start, unlike anything he will have played in Holland. Also not sure Koeman has helped the situation either.

Still wish he would have come in and smashed it though.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Im more than willing to. However my expectations were for a level of performance a lot higher than what we've seen so far. Ajax captain and all that jazz.

Yours sincerely,

Disappointed of Gloucestershire 

What were you expecting from less than 2 games in the League?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 22, 2017, 08:34:56 PM
Did he not just make some good defensive contributions against MC?

I cannae be arsed watching it again but he seems to have some instinct in and around penalty areas despite not being a great 'midfielder' so far.

I have certainly noticed he ain't the fastest getting around.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: everton1952 on August 22, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
It is natural to expect a new signing to immediately do the business. Klassen as someone said earlier is underwhelming. His overall contribution in the short time he has played so far is minimal. But he can't be crap if he was well thought of at Ajax, even though their league is awful. Koeman will do what is necessary to bring him on to show his true worth, we hope.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on August 22, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
Fuck me he came on for 30 mins in a game where City were a dominant force in attack and we as a team couldn't hold on to the ball, he probably saved us the loss at the end here and has been instrumental in our last few goals, give the guy a break ffs, he's come to a new quicker league and will take time to adjust granted, but he's a blue and will want to do what the rest of the team do now which is to play the best for his team.
Lets re-evaluate this thread after 20 games and see how he's doing.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: dekko on August 22, 2017, 08:38:51 PM
Just thinking that it could have been Barkley playing instead of him makes me sick.

I'm happy to give him time, but losing Barkley makes me really sad.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: mikey_blue on August 22, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
Fuck me he came on for 30 mins in a game where City were a dominant force in attack and we as a team couldn't hold on to the ball, he probably saved us the loss at the end here and has been instrumental in our last few goals, give the guy a break ffs, he's come to a new quicker league and will take time to adjust granted, but he's a blue and will want to do what the rest of the team do now which is to play the best for his team.
Lets re-evaluate this thread after 20 games and see how he's doing.

Fucking nuts isn't it?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
People can critique someone's performance without writing that player off

Some heads going here.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on August 22, 2017, 09:17:17 PM
I'd say he's had a better start to his Everton career than Sandro has so far.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 09:23:23 PM
It is natural to expect a new signing to immediately do the business. Klassen as someone said earlier is underwhelming. His overall contribution in the short time he has played so far is minimal. But he can't be crap if he was well thought of at Ajax, even though their league is awful. Koeman will do what is necessary to bring him on to show his true worth, we hope.

I don't think it's natural to expect that a new signing does the business immediately, I would say that would be an unrealistic expectation.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 09:47:47 PM
I don't think it's natural to expect that a new signing does the business immediately, I would say that would be an unrealistic expectation.

Wayne Rooney says hi.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
Depends on what you consider to be "doing the business" I suppose but if it is considered that he is doing the business I would still question that it was natural to expect it, I doubt that the majority did.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 10:16:58 PM
I'd say he's had a better start to his Everton career than Sandro has so far.

It's about on par.

Wayne Rooney says hi.

It's not overly surprising that of the new players the ones who've played in the PL before are doing the best at the start of the season (Rooney, Keane, Pickford).
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: gizzblue on August 23, 2017, 12:43:28 AM
Ffs has played three and a half games ....been involved in at least three goals and stopped a certain goal last night ....what the fuck do some want ? ??....three hatricks without breaking sweat in a team with so many new players ...dream on....he will be awesome eventually, so you premature ejaculators can go to fuck 😅😅
Title: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on August 23, 2017, 04:39:02 AM
Ffs has played three and a half games ....been involved in at least three goals and stopped a certain goal last night ....what the fuck do some want ? ??....three hatricks without breaking sweat in a team with so many new players ...dream on....he will be awesome eventually, so you premature ejaculators can go to fuck

Football fans are hypercritical these days. Annoying cockwombles the lot of us.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 23, 2017, 03:44:20 PM
I'd say he's had a better start to his Everton career than Sandro has so far.

Sandro hasn't started yet though has he.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on August 23, 2017, 03:53:50 PM
Sandro hasn't started yet though has he.

Started both legs against Rumbelows and Stoke, plus a couple of friendly's.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 23, 2017, 03:57:41 PM
Started both legs against Rumbelows and Stoke, plus a couple of friendly's.

Did he? Feels like he's hardly played. Just shows how much of an impression he's made on me so far.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Brownie20 on August 23, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Started both legs against Rumbelows and Stoke, plus a couple of friendly's.

He didn't start the first leg did he? Thought he came on in 2nd half
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on August 23, 2017, 04:46:30 PM
He didn't start the first leg did he? Thought he came on in 2nd half

You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lazarou on August 23, 2017, 04:54:20 PM
You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.

For me I don't know why I just kind of expected Klaassen to slot right in and being older than Sandro and more experienced and also Ajax captain who has played in a Europa League final. When he has had the ball at his feet with time to play he has looked indecisive and nervous his best moments have been instinctive rather than measured, maybe that's his game. He obviously has talent and I am not quite sure Koeman knows how to play him to be honest.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 23, 2017, 04:59:27 PM
You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.

I think you're reading way too much into all this. I've only read a few posters saying he's not quite up to speed yet, a fact he'd probably admit to himself. I personally think he's not started too badly but the fact he plays on the fringes of games as opposed to all action means his contribution is subject to different interpretations. Nothing to get worked up about though.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on August 23, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
I think you're reading way too much into all this. I've only read a few posters saying he's not quite up to speed yet, a fact he'd probably admit to himself. I personally think he's not started too badly but the fact he plays on the fringes of games as opposed to all action means his contribution is subject to different interpretations. Nothing to get worked up about though.

I'm not worked up at all thanks.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on August 23, 2017, 05:14:47 PM
I'm not worked up at all thanks.

You're making outlandish claims that people think Sandro is great because he's Spanish and Klaassen will struggle because he's from Holland. Which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 23, 2017, 05:15:27 PM
Sandro already has a pre-season goal and was the 'Klaassen' in the build-up to our goal at Stoke.

Maybe Davy doesn't look like a £23m player yet but I think Koeman has nailed it finding players who can make a decisive contribution even whilst they're adapting to our league :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ross on August 23, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
You're making outlandish claims that people think Sandro is great because he's Spanish and Klaassen will struggle because he's from Holland. Which is ridiculous.

Hardly.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: gizzblue on August 24, 2017, 01:07:18 AM
Football fans are hypercritical these days. Annoying cockwombles the lot of us.
Including me 😅😅.deffo
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on August 24, 2017, 02:50:45 AM
You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.

You've just plucked this rubbish from the sky.

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Cozzie on August 24, 2017, 02:59:51 AM
Baffled by a lot of this.

The lad has been here 5 minutes and has been instrumental in a lot of our goals so far and made a cracking defensive contribution at the end of the City game.

Granted he may look a little light weight but that wont change, so was Pienaar and he did fine. Once he gets more settled he will be a great player.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 24, 2017, 07:59:20 AM
You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.

You've just plucked this rubbish from the sky.

Given away by the 'Klanseen'.

Was gonna like yer post for the first paragraph as well Ross, you must mortified reading this ;)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 24, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
You may be right I might be thinking of Seville. The point is people are readily willing to criticise Klaassen who's been involved in all our wins so far and a key figure in creating our goals in a lot of those games, while Sandro has also featured but clearly not shown much because people can't even remember if or what games he's actually started or played in.

Hence my original point Klanseen has had the better start to his Everton career than Sandro.

Part of the problem here is people have already decided Sandro is a great player based on the fact he's come from Spain and Klaassen will struggle because he's come from Holland.

As someone in the 'expected a bit more from Klaassen' camp, I think you're exaggerating the point a bit too much to make an issue where there really isn't one.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Gary1878 on August 24, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
How anyone can judge Klaassen based on a few minutes of football is beyond me. He has barely played and has just arrived from a tier 2 European league to the best league in the world, so at least give the guy a few months to settle in.

Footballing relationships on and off the pitch take time to bed in, and you can't just expect him to be off and running in the first game.

To me, he has shown some real quality in parts of his play, and should come into his own in the second half of this season. But please give him (and Sandro) a chance to get settled in before judging him.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on August 24, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Due to the reports coming out of Holland on how classy he could be, most; myself included, expected more from Klaassen earlier on. Obviously, this hasn't happened. I still reckon there's a lot more to come from him in the quality stakes. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I see a very progressive highly skilled link up merchant, with a quality footballing brain. I still think despite how lukewarm he's been getting going, he is still our best signing this summer, with the exception of Sigurdsson.

His style of play appears to be quite technical, he will need the other players to start to gel before he starts to show what he has to offer. I've got no problems with him. I'm sure he's going to make the grade. He reminds me of a player called John Mcgovern. Was similar in his attributes playing for Nottingham Forest. I don't think Mcgovern had the skill available to him that Klassen Possesses, but Forest won the European Cup twice with him in their team. Klaassen's one of those players you need in a team to win big. I'm sure he's going to flourish given time. :)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Macca77 on August 24, 2017, 04:27:38 PM
Are people seriously doubting this lad already?

Please fuck off
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on August 24, 2017, 04:32:47 PM
Are people seriously doubting this lad already?

Please fuck off



Do you think I'm doubting him then? I've just said he's superior to John Mcgovern. He was one of Brian Clough's mainstay vital ingredients for league championships and European cups. I do believe he's been signed to do a similar job. You might not recognise Mcgoverns abilities as it was back in the day. Believe me, he's not being doubted.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on August 24, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Mad this thread yano
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 24, 2017, 05:02:49 PM
Mad this thread yano

Seems to be mostly people reacting to the idea that somebody somewhere doesn't think he's up to scratch.

Who those people might be I have no idea, nothing I've read or heard in the last few weeks would lead me to believe that is the case!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Macca77 on August 24, 2017, 05:57:57 PM


Do you think I'm doubting him then? I've just said he's superior to John Mcgovern. He was one of Brian Clough's mainstay vital ingredients for league championships and European cups. I do believe he's been signed to do a similar job. You might not recognise Mcgoverns abilities as it was back in the day. Believe me, he's not being doubted.

Wasn't aimed at you, there seems to be quite a few on here who have already come to the conclusion that he's not good enough though.

Well if that's the case, Sandro isn't either.

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 24, 2017, 05:58:31 PM
nah, cut @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) some slack here. There has been plenty of negativity.
Now, some of the below may be out of contect in parts (and the main offender has come around to our way of thinkging).
But bare in mind that some of us think he is performing highly *right now* and creating chances. To see this kind of thing is baffling:

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I'm not sure how you can say that tbh. He's been really average so far and I'd have Davies instead of him against city and Split.

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It's very early doors but I'm not really sure what he offers us right now.

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Yeah, I like his first time balls and stuff, he's tidy but he's not blowing me away with cleverness particularly.

His passing and game involvement stats from the rest of his career would point to a tidy, busy player who doesn't get too involved in moving the ball or building play, but will very happily lay on the final ball or goal, I'd be surprised if he deviates from that and so far he hasn't so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Like I say I'm still backing him and I think he'll do well but I don't think he's been particularly impressive in regards to pure midfield play.

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Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.

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The lads miles off in the premier league.

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He's been a bit underwhelming so far but it's early days.

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Im more than willing to. However my expectations were for a level of performance a lot higher than what we've seen so far. Ajax captain and all that jazz.

Yours sincerely,

Disappointed of Gloucestershire 

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Just thinking that it could have been Barkley playing instead of him makes me sick.

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Did he? Feels like he's hardly played. Just shows how much of an impression he's made on me so far.

You can't see all that in one thread (and potentially come up against equal bollocks in real life & matchday threads and not begin to form an impression that people have got it in for him when you are of the opinion he has been playing really well in his first competative games.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on August 24, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
nah, cut @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) some slack here. There has been plenty of negativity.
Now, some of the below may be out of contect in parts (and the main offender has come around to our way of thinkging).
But bare in mind that some of us think he is performing highly *right now* and creating chances. To see this kind of thing is baffling:

You can't see all that in one thread (and potentially come up against equal bollocks in real life & matchday threads and not begin to form an impression that people have got it in for him when you are of the opinion he has been playing really well in his first competative games.

Yet you quote me in that post when I've been generally positive about him.

He's off the pace in the premier league, that's to be expected.

Yet people seem to be taking this quote as me writing him off?

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jamokachi on August 24, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
I don't understand why we can't critique his performances thus far? As said, saying he's struggled with the pace of the league and the physical nature is by no means writing him off. Just means he's got to adapt and learn We're all hoping he will.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 24, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
Yet you quote me in that post when I've been generally positive about him.

He's off the pace in the premier league, that's to be expected.

Yet people seem to be taking this quote as me writing him off?

You're looking at it from your one, individual point of view.Of course you remember everything you said and the context it is in.
I know that the guy who was most negative @brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) has come around, because i had direct interaction with him.

But if you're reading through this thread, chances are you aren't doing so with a little tally box, making notes on who said exactly what in what order.
It's just "fucking hell, there's another negative post, and another and another".

So yeah, you are right in thinking things are nowhere near as negative as @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) thought. But you're wrong in thinking it's crazy for him to have got to that opinion.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 24, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on August 24, 2017, 06:18:00 PM
Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.




I thought it was 23.6 million. Fuck me, he's not worth 26 million. ;)
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on August 24, 2017, 06:18:02 PM
You're looking at it from your one, individual point of view.Of course you remember everything you said and the context it is in.
I know that the guy who was most negative @brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) has come around, because i had direct interaction with him.

But if you're reading through this thread, chances are you aren't doing so with a little tally box, making notes on who said exactly what in what order.
It's just "fucking hell, there's another negative post, and another and another".

So yeah, you are right in thinking things are nowhere near as negative as @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) thought. But you're wrong in thinking it's crazy for him to have got to that opinion.

I wouldn't say I was that negative about it, just felt he looked a bit over awed and didn't look for the ball. I still think he'll have about 20 touches a game in the middle of the park which isn't great.

But, we hopefully won't be playing him in the middle of the pitch, he's just there to be productive and work his ollies off which I think he will, so can't get behind him enough at this point!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheTone on August 24, 2017, 06:22:15 PM
Not many players in that position are boss straight off the bat, there is definitely a player there, just needs time to come to terms with the physicality and speed of the premier league
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 24, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
Why are so many people taking offence at the views of others over this particular player suddenly?  :bonk:

Pre-game tension?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Gary1878 on August 24, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
To be honest, this is like if you got a new job and then within a couple of weeks you were expected to be at the same level as everyone else. It would be completely unfair on you and it is no different for the new boys.

It takes time to learn in a new environment, especially for the young guys like Sandro that have never lived in the UK. Think about everything that he has to take in; New culture, language, city, house, job, boss, colleagues, weather, increased expectations etc. It might even take him a whole year to get up to scratch. The more the fans support these players, the better chance they will have in succeeding.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lazarou on August 24, 2017, 06:23:32 PM
Why are so many people taking offence at the views of others over this particular player suddenly?  :bonk:

Pre-game tension?

Premenstrual tension more like.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 24, 2017, 06:27:16 PM
To be honest, this is like if you got a new job and then within a couple of weeks you were expected to be at the same level as everyone else. It would be completely unfair on you and it is no different for the new boys.

It takes time to learn in a new environment, especially for the young guys like Sandro that have never lived in the UK. Think about everything that he has to take in; New culture, language, city, house, job, boss, colleagues, weather, increased expectations etc. It might even take him a whole year to get up to scratch. The more the fans support these players, the better chance they will have in succeeding.


Sando is a different kettle of fish to Klaassen so theres not much comparison IMO. Theres a vast difference in experience for a start.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 24, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.

Funnily enough that UEFA Cup final was a great indicator of what happens when 'strong' side from Holland comes up against a 'good' side from England.

I still think Klaassen has shown instincts some players will never develop so I am happy to see him continuing to be given many minutes to get sharper.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 24, 2017, 06:32:32 PM
Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.

See, it's this kind of thing. I know you're belief is that we will see more of him. But this specific post is saying that you expect more from him.

We have scored 6 competative goals this season.
He has been directly involved in 4 of them. Whether that be laying on into space for a lay off, dragging a defender out of a space in the box or a direct assist.

4 out of 6 goals in games that have been 4 wins and a draw and you want more?
It could be argued that Barkley, for example, may have done the exact same thing and we would have scored them goals anyway.
But Klaassen was on the pitch and he did them things and we scored them goals specifically because he was on the pitch.

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 24, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
To be honest, this is like if you got a new job and then within a couple of weeks you were expected to be at the same level as everyone else. It would be completely unfair on you and it is no different for the new boys.

It takes time to learn in a new environment, especially for the young guys like Sandro that have never lived in the UK. Think about everything that he has to take in; New culture, language, city, house, job, boss, colleagues, weather, increased expectations etc. It might even take him a whole year to get up to scratch. The more the fans support these players, the better chance they will have in succeeding.

Probably made harder with other newbies who are able to slot straight in, having grown up here and already been playing in the PL. They are just young men in a strange land and under a higher level of attention and expectation, in a league that is capable of eating them alive. No pressure!   :hug:
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluenose 91 on August 24, 2017, 07:09:02 PM
I think he struggles to get involved when the ball is in the middle of the park but he comes alive in the final third.

Looks to play a lot of one touch stuff and like a few others have mentioned I reckon he'll ''assist the assist'' a lot of the time.

I think he's made a decent start all things considered.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueNoseMike on August 24, 2017, 07:20:08 PM
I think he's been class so far (pardon the pun). The one touch flicks and triangles and clever runs off the ball have been something we've missed for a while.

Only performance I wasn't too impressed by was Monday at City. City will show they are one of the fastest most attacking teams in the country, and I think the best, and he just didn't seem to adapt to the pressure. But neither did Sig. Both came on with a view to gain control back. City will do that to most teams this year so I'm not worried.

He'll grow into a key player for us, and has shown it in spells already
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 24, 2017, 07:21:10 PM
I think he struggles to get involved when the ball is in the middle of the park but he comes alive in the final third.

This is where getting up to speed is needed. On the attack he's comfortable, but when it comes to turning in the middle he's still short of the practice dealing with the kind of player that has nicked the ball off you if you blink. I'd be playing it safe in the middle to start with too.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Macca77 on August 24, 2017, 07:31:47 PM
I reckon he will become the greatest player to have ever played the game, deffo a multiple ballon d'or winner.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MrWhite on August 24, 2017, 07:46:04 PM
I reckon he will become the greatest player to have ever played the game, deffo a multiple ballon d'or winner.

Gert-Jan, is that you?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: everton1952 on August 24, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
Is that you Roberto? Phenomenal. 
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 24, 2017, 08:01:20 PM
i had huge hopes for Klaassen,  but he seems not fit/not ready for the premier league, i dont know what it is, i expected him to be more technical (going by his Ajax performances) but he really does look like a Naismith clone.
reserving judgement tho, and taking it as he isnt settled into the league / team yet..

Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: kramer0 on August 24, 2017, 08:17:20 PM
I've said this before but Naismith with the ability to control the ball and actually pull off one-touch passes would have been a very good player.

So if that's who Klaassen is, great. He might not be a player for every match but he'll be a big asset to the squad.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 24, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
I've said this before but Naismith with a good first touch and the ability to actually pull off one-touch passes would have been a very good player.

So if that's who Klaassen is, great.
And i'm fed up of saying this, this is not the time nor the place for common sense
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: djws1788 on August 24, 2017, 08:26:02 PM
no coincidence his better games have come in the Europa where the tempo is slower. he's clearly got the brain, just needs to adjust the pace of the English game.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on August 24, 2017, 08:31:53 PM
Seen it all before. The first time Rooney has a bad game I can guarantee someone will say his legs have gone.  A good game from Mirallas and he'll be a superstar again. It's the way of the world.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 24, 2017, 08:36:50 PM
I just don't see the Davy-Stevie thing.

IMO Naisy was good at finishing when he actually made it into the box, winning way more than his fair share of headers, and winning free-kicks with his combative style.

Haven't seen any of that from Klaassen, what I have seen is the aforementioned link-up play in fits and spurts (which has been a good thing btw).
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 24, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
I just don't see the Davy-Stevie thing.

IMO Naisy was good at finishing when he actually made it into the box, winning way more than his fair share of headers, and winning free-kicks with his combative style.

Haven't seen any of that from Klaassen, what I have seen is the aforementioned link-up play in fits and spurts (which has been a good thing btw).

It's a pace/hair thang!
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 24, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
It's a pace/hair thang!

Points for persistence :snigger:
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Martip on September 24, 2017, 04:17:13 AM
Seriously getting worried by this guy....absolute passenger and seemingly not good enough.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2017, 04:21:29 AM
Seriously getting worried by this guy....absolute passenger and seemingly not good enough.

Nonsense. Clever, technical player who could be a real asset if we get our shape and balance right.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Martip on September 24, 2017, 04:23:24 AM
Nonsense. Clever, technical player who could be a real asset if we get our shape and balance right.
Don't see it at all in afraid. Game after game seems to pass him by and I think you are overate his ability to impact things.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on September 24, 2017, 04:34:33 AM
Not as good as Davies in my opinion.

He's really ill-suited for our tepid congested style of play. He's a pass and move sort of player and we haven't been attacking like that so far this season.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: ally2 on September 24, 2017, 04:35:21 AM
I think he's one of our most technically gifted players, if not the most gifted. And has the vision to go with it.

Probably sounds mad but I think he's actually a level above a lot of our players and finding it difficult to know how to fit in, especially with the seemingly unmovable midfield two of Schneiderlein and Gueye and our ever changing formations. I have zero doubt he will be fantastic for us in due course. I just don't know how.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Martip on September 24, 2017, 04:40:22 AM
I think he's one of our most technically gifted players, if not the most gifted. And has the vision to go with it.

Probably sounds mad but I think he's actually a level above a lot of our players and finding it difficult to know how to fit in, especially with the seemingly unmovable midfield two of Schneiderlein and Gueye and our ever changing formations. I have zero doubt he will be fantastic for us in due course. I just don't know how.
I hope you are right but I can't see it....needs to get himself involved
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 24, 2017, 05:02:34 AM
Nonsense. Clever, technical player who could be a real asset if we get our shape and balance right.

You must have seen a lot of him before he came to Everton because he hasn't shown anything to suggest he can bring those qualities to the English game while he's been here.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2017, 05:11:25 AM
Nonsense. Clever, technical player who could be a real asset if we get our shape and balance right.

If we get our shape right, he won't be in it.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Martip on September 24, 2017, 05:24:28 AM
If we get our shape right, he won't be in it.
This is as I see it. No goal threat shown yet, can't remember any  key chances made, slow, average in the tackle.

An ineffective neat and tidy player is all I've seen so far. Davies a much better option.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 24, 2017, 05:24:31 AM
I think he's one of our most technically gifted players, if not the most gifted. And has the vision to go with it.

Probably sounds mad but I think he's actually a level above a lot of our players and finding it difficult to know how to fit in, especially with the seemingly unmovable midfield two of Schneiderlein and Gueye and our ever changing formations. I have zero doubt he will be fantastic for us in due course. I just don't know how.

Jeez he must be some fuckin' player if he's proved that without actually getting on the ball.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Major Clanger on September 24, 2017, 05:28:49 AM
Jeez he must be some fuckin' player if he's proved that without actually getting on the ball.

He's manipulating the ball with his brainwaves.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blueToffee on September 24, 2017, 05:28:56 AM
One of the difficulties is unlike Sigurdsson or Rooney I don't really know where his best position is. I thought in his first game he was getting in the box much more (I seem to remember him sliding in and arriving slightly too late for a cross in the six yard area) and generally being a little bit of a Cahill type nuisance in a certain sense, so I thought he'd be getting amongst the goals that way, but it seems like he's playing comparatively very deep now, at best he's hanging out at the top of the box and the game is passing him by in most cases.

Sadly the only game I saw of him before he came here was in the Europa final vs Man United and it doesn't probably help that he was pretty much anonymous in that too.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: van der Meyde on September 24, 2017, 05:58:19 AM
Broadly I think both camps are right.

He's a decent player technically, he makes decent runs.

He just doesn't touch the ball anywhere near as much as a player in his position should. This isn't a new thing, it was the same for Ajax. It's just probably not something we can accommodate in games where we aren't dominating the ball in the attacking third.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on September 24, 2017, 05:58:31 AM
Davvy Klaassen needs a striker and two wingers. He is never going to get on the ball like a proper CM or 10. If he couldn't do it in the Netherlands he is never going to do it in the fucking prem. He is like Steven Naismith and he is like Tim Cahill, but we haven't seen much of it yet. Probably because when he goes to run into the box he's in a queue of about 3 other number 10s all milling about.

Until we have a striker and two wingers he can lay it off to he should get the odd game in the cup when we play our second string. Keep him away from the centre circle because you need players who can pass, tackle, move with the ball and dribble and he can't do any of that he can just lay it off really really quickly and we have rooney and Sigurdsson who can do that.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blueski on September 24, 2017, 06:24:54 AM
I like his speed of thought and he seems like he'd be deadly good in 5 a side
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jamokachi on September 24, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
He's a passenger at the moment, and the way we're playing we can't afford those. Sit him out for a while, and bring him into the fold when we hit a bit of form. Then ewe'll see what he has to offer.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: blargins on September 24, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
I think he’s a good player more akin to Pienaar in that he makes quick and clever passes. Thought today he was pretty decent in the first half.

I really think Rooney is what’s stuffing up a lot of our balance though.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jamokachi on September 24, 2017, 09:25:18 AM
Thought today he was pretty decent in the first half.

Constantly bullied, caught in possession, and looked out of his depth... he isn't ready to be starting games at this level.

Rooney is a far better option at present. The stick he's copping is ridiculous. He's been one of our better performers this season (doesn't say an awful lot i appreciate).
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2017, 04:27:48 PM
Needs a little spell out of the team for me. He's a pass and move type player in a team that neither passes nor moves at the minute due to a number of factors.
With a few wins on the bounce, more confidence and a better balance to the team we can then integrate him back in. It's no biggie, just need to think of the bigger picture and the likes of Davies are more suited to our current situation at the moment.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 24, 2017, 04:38:55 PM
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Broadly I think both camps are right.

He's a decent player technically, he makes decent runs.

He just doesn't touch the ball anywhere near as much as a player in his position should. This isn't a new thing, it was the same for Ajax. It's just probably not something we can accommodate in games where we aren't dominating the ball in the attacking third.
I had significant  doubts about him watching the Europa final against manure,rated a 4 in that match against premier opposition the game simply passed him by with zero input.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2017, 04:39:21 PM
He will take time to get into the flow of things but some of the little touches and stuff are pretty decent.

I can see him turning into a boss little player come the second half of the season
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Tinga on September 24, 2017, 04:39:42 PM
I think the people saying he's just too intelligent for our players, despite not offering much at all are desperate for him to succeed. I'm thinking he might not be the player we had hoped for when we signed him, at least not in this league.

Sure it's early days but he doesn't seem to really do anything..
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Realist on September 24, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
I think he's one of our most technically gifted players, if not the most gifted. And has the vision to go with it.

Probably sounds mad but I think he's actually a level above a lot of our players and finding it difficult to know how to fit in, especially with the seemingly unmovable midfield two of Schneiderlein and Gueye and our ever changing formations. I have zero doubt he will be fantastic for us in due course. I just don't know how.

No he's not, he's just struggling to adapt to the prem.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: gizzblue on September 24, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
The lack of balance in the team is a problem for him (and others in his position) if Rooney got benched or injured we would see this guy flourish and use the space in front of him ten times  better ...I'm side .. .early days yet.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2017, 04:48:39 PM
It's just not fair to make any sort of proper assessment of him yet. Many players take at least a year to adapt to the Prem/living in England anyway, even when coming into a settled, organised team. He's coming into a team with numerous new first team players, where the manager has yet to find a cohesive shape. I feel like I've seen plenty to like about his game, and think some of the criticism is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: pjk on September 24, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
A few of the passes and layoffs he made yesterday were quality,  but he seems to get caught on the ball far too often. He needs, from what I can see, to up the pace of his game. He's got the ability, I'm fairly sure of that. He just needs to adapt, but Everton fans are not the most patient people in the world where it comes to a player coming up with the goods.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2017, 02:49:39 AM
He was at the Ajax game today and got a great ovation apparently

Must have something about him to be so loved by them

Hopefully we get to see it soon. It's fair to give him and Sandro time to adapt
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 25, 2017, 02:52:20 AM
he is fucking loved there

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/911959823977205760
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 25, 2017, 03:37:38 AM
Fuck me, and I thought Kopites were cringeworthy
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2017, 05:28:18 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/25/ronald-koeman-give-davy-klaassen-time-adapt-football-england/
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 05:40:42 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/09/25/ronald-koeman-give-davy-klaassen-time-adapt-football-england/

The thing is, we all expected this.

Yet, he's been thrown in from the start more often than not despite Tom Davies already being brilliant enough that there's no need to rush Klaassen into things.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 05:44:26 AM
But then you're risking your 19 year old prodigy.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2017, 05:45:46 AM
The thing is, we all expected this.

Yet, he's been thrown in from the start more often than not despite Tom Davies already being brilliant enough that there's no need to rush Klaassen into things.
Koeman must think, and I can kinda see the logic, that, if it's not working for klaasen he thinks Davies can turn it around

Whereas, he Probably thinks klaasen couldn't
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 26, 2017, 06:26:05 AM
He clearly has a great football brain he just needs a few months to bed in to get to grips with the country and the pace of the game here.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Confucius on September 26, 2017, 11:14:51 AM
He is the next Iniesta
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueMaquis on September 26, 2017, 11:31:42 AM
He is the next Iniesta

Bald by 26 you mean?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Confucius on September 26, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
Bald by 26 you mean?


He fits in more ways than one. Going to be brilliant this guy. Everyone is going to be amazed towards the end of the season and next season.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 26, 2017, 02:19:04 PM
Don't want to get too deep here but maybe going 'back to say goodbye' to the Ajax fans suggests he's a sensitive and caring guy. This might be like a closure thing as he may be homesick etc.. we need to show him he's wanted here and give him time.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 26, 2017, 06:09:56 PM
I am 100% certain Klaassen will be a success at Everton. There's a knobhead behind me in the match who only opens his mouth to slate him. Why at Everton are you shit until proven good? Over at Liverpool, he'd be 'world class' until proven otherwise. Give the lad time FFS.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 26, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
But then you're risking your 19 year old prodigy.

And benching a £25m former club captain of Ajax. Conundrums ahoy.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Waltzer on September 27, 2017, 03:28:46 AM
I am 100% certain Klaassen will be a success at Everton. There's a knobhead behind me in the match who only opens his mouth to slate him. Why at Everton are you shit until proven good? Over at Liverpool, he'd be 'world class' until proven otherwise. Give the lad time FFS.
I hope your right but there's probably more evidence to suggest he wont. Nothing to hand to substantiate this but I bet there have been more failed exports from the Dutch league than success stories of late and his reputation in the national team isn't particularly good, they still really only class Robben as their only decent player.
I think we'd see the best of him if we had a striker to hold the ball up and allow him to run on, so I'm not giving up hope just yet but also not pinning my hopes on him being much more than a squad player.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 03:59:12 AM
Don't want to get too deep here but maybe going 'back to say goodbye' to the Ajax fans suggests he's a sensitive and caring guy. This might be like a closure thing as he may be homesick etc.. we need to show him he's wanted here and give him time.

Or he could just be going home seeing his ma and the lads and fancied going to the match so he told Ajax that he was going a week or 2 in advance so they could sort him a box or something and he isn't mentally fragile like you're suggesting.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 27, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
Or he could just be going home seeing his ma and the lads and fancied going to the match so he told Ajax that he was going a week or 2 in advance so they could sort him a box or something and he isn't mentally fragile like you're suggesting.

Who said mentally fragile? I said nothing of the sort. Being sensitive and caring isn't the same as fragile.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 04:25:46 AM
Who said mentally fragile? I said nothing of the sort. Being sensitive and caring isn't the same as fragile.

Still something you've just made up either way.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Toddacelli on September 27, 2017, 04:33:14 AM
Klaassen is shit - discuss.






Only messing. I reckon he will come good - but I think it will take him a long time to settle - maybe the whole season.


I have a slight niggly fear though that he'll be bang-average with us for a couple of years, then go to some shitehawk mid-table club like Stoke or Southampton and be fucking incredible for a couple of years before being bought for a ridiculous sum by whoever the current champions are.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 27, 2017, 12:58:27 PM
Still something you've just made up either way.

Yet yours is factual I guess?  How is Davey's ma these days btw?
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
Yet yours is factual I guess?  How is Davey's ma these days btw?

Pretty obvious that mine is just made up.

I just don't get why people invent their own narrative up about players like this.

Barkley is another one that people have christened a sensitive little soul who needs love and adulation from all Evertonians based on literally nothing more than a 3 second video of Jagielka saying something to him in the tunnel at half time.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: TheRam on September 27, 2017, 02:34:06 PM
Pretty obvious that mine is just made up.

I just don't get why people invent their own narrative up about players like this.

Barkley is another one that people have christened a sensitive little soul who needs love and adulation from all Evertonians based on literally nothing more than a 3 second video of Jagielka saying something to him in the tunnel at half time.

You get wound up over the littlest of things.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 02:38:08 PM
You get wound up over the littlest of things.

Genuinely never been wound up by anything on here lolol
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
Don't want to get too deep here but maybe going 'back to say goodbye' to the Ajax fans suggests he's a sensitive and caring guy. This might be like a closure thing as he may be homesick etc.. we need to show him he's wanted here and give him time.

Still something you've just made up either way.

He probably had one conversation with Koeman about the talent in Ellesmere Port and invented an excuse for a trip back to 'Dam for the whoring.
Title: Re: Klaassen Signs - Confirmed by club.
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 02:50:17 PM
He probably had one conversation with Koeman about the talent in Ellesmere Port and invented an excuse for a trip back to 'Dam for the whoring.

You're just being silly now.

What actually happened was his mate text him that The Bulldog had got a new Lemon Haze in that was pretty special.

He's more of a Kush kind of fella but fancied a change I imagine.