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Title: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 11, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
Onyekuru - Anderlecht
Galloway - Sunderland
Browning - Sunderland
Pennington - Leeds
Joe Williams - Barnsley
Kieran Dowell - Nottingham Forest
Antoine Robinson - Bolton

Nice to see all our youngsters getting championship matches.

From what I've seen, Pennington was doing very well on his debut for Leeds last week before going off injured.
Browning looks assured for Sunderland as a CB.
Galloway seems to have lost the ability to defend at LB.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: pjk on August 11, 2017, 03:17:30 AM
Galloway played 3 times when he went to West Brom last year. That was a loan deal gone terribly wrong. Messed him up quite badly that. That's one to blame on the coaching staff, not arranging a return clause in the deal.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cassius on August 11, 2017, 03:28:13 AM
*Antonee ;)

Apparently Joe Williams was poor in his first game for Barnsley.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Alanvideo on August 11, 2017, 03:31:34 AM
Galloway played 3 times when he went to West Brom last year. That was a loan deal gone terribly wrong. Messed him up quite badly that. That's one to blame on the coaching staff, not arranging a return clause in the deal.
...............isn't there a rule that prohibits recalls outside transfer windows ? The obvious thing is to just loan a player for half a season at a time.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on August 11, 2017, 03:35:49 AM
Watching browning and Galloway here (and vaghaun and mcgeady and Gibson and beckford) and both have not really stood out.

Defenders in a largely dominant team I guess but galloways ball playing hasn't really stood out which you think it would at that level.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: pjk on August 11, 2017, 04:57:10 AM
...............isn't there a rule that prohibits recalls outside transfer windows ? The obvious thing is to just loan a player for half a season at a time.



Yeah that's true. He hadn't got hardly any game time by January. 3 or 4 games, I think he played in, pre- January.  He should have been recalled, or loaned out elsewhere, if the coaches were providing him with the best options available. Sitting on West Broms bench wasn't it.

Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Alanvideo on August 11, 2017, 05:31:12 AM


Yeah that's true. He hadn't got hardly any game time by January. 3 or 4 games, I think he played in, pre- January.  He should have been recalled, or loaned out elsewhere, if the coaches were providing him with the best options available. Sitting on West Broms bench wasn't it.


..................Yes I'm sure I read it somewhere the rules have changed . There is an exception for goalkeepers.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 12, 2017, 11:52:50 PM
Dowell scored for Forest 4th goal in 4-3 win
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Goaljira on August 13, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cassius on August 13, 2017, 01:01:55 AM

Stunning strike.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 13, 2017, 06:11:33 PM
watched all of Dowells game time so far...  thinking of going to the east midlands to watch a home game or 2.. (my cousins a big forest fan)
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 13, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
https://twitter.com/jdub68/status/896444410916950017

http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46133&page=3
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: kramer0 on August 13, 2017, 11:35:05 PM
Prediction: This is going to become the Kieran Dowell thread, with occasional tidbits about our other players out on loan.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: blargins on August 13, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
Prediction: This is going to become the Kieran Dowell thread, with occasional tidbits about our other players out on loan.
Will be proving himself if it does turn out that way.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: EVERTON 66 on August 14, 2017, 02:01:54 AM
*Antonee ;)

Apparently Joe Williams was poor in his first game for Barnsley.
Seemed to do a lot better in the second!!!!
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: EVERTON 66 on August 14, 2017, 02:04:18 AM
watched all of Dowells game time so far...  thinking of going to the east midlands to watch a home game or 2.. (my cousins a big forest fan)
He has started well at forest.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: TheRam on August 14, 2017, 02:10:10 AM
Is Robinson getting games at Bolton?

I kinda think it was a bit too soon to send him out on loan.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 14, 2017, 02:11:46 AM
Is Robinson getting games at Bolton?

I kinda think it was a bit too soon to send him out on loan.

PLayed in the cup last week
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 14, 2017, 04:27:40 PM
Is Robinson getting games at Bolton?

I kinda think it was a bit too soon to send him out on loan.

The only saving grace on this is that sending U-23 lads out on loan I would imagine is a joint decision by Unsworth, Walsh and maybe slight input from Koeman. Which makes me think they know what they're doing and know what stage of his development he's at.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 14, 2017, 04:29:22 PM
It's pretty much the only option after conquering the U23 league isn't it?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 14, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Is Robinson getting games at Bolton?

I kinda think it was a bit too soon to send him out on loan.

Yes, and my bros a Bolton fan and he's raving about him.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 14, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
Yes, and my bros a Bolton fan and he's raving about him.

May the force be with him
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: MrWhite on August 15, 2017, 01:08:16 AM
Kieran Dowell Appreciation Thread (Forest Forum) (http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46133)

Think they like him a lot.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: bogie on August 15, 2017, 01:16:41 AM
Yes, and my bros a Bolton fan and he's raving about him.

how did you let that happen
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 15, 2017, 01:18:16 AM
how did you let that happen

I have no idea.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cassius on August 15, 2017, 01:21:29 AM
Kieran Dowell Appreciation Thread (Forest Forum) (http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46133)

Think they like him a lot.

Nice to see that they descend into shit Dowell puns too.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on August 15, 2017, 02:46:19 AM
Kieran Dowell out side the box screamer count 1/4

Yes I'm counting it I don't care if he scuffed it a bit.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 15, 2017, 03:19:28 AM
Anyone know what happened to Tarashaj?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 15, 2017, 10:14:51 PM
Kieran Dowell out side the box screamer count 1/4

Yes I'm counting it I don't care if he scuffed it a bit.

Was properly unconvincing but it found the back of the net!

I noticed he got a whole 45 mins this time not a cameo, hopefully he'll break into their side.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 16, 2017, 05:05:27 AM
Forest fans loving Dowell all over Twitter.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 19, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Dowell instrumental in Forest's first goal apparently
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 19, 2017, 09:34:13 PM
Dowell instrumental in Forest's first goal apparently

yep

https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/898911742784405508
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: kramer0 on August 19, 2017, 11:07:56 PM
Absolutely nothing surprising about what Dowell is doing at Forest. He's too good for that level. You could see at age 17, when he made his debut against Krasnodar, that he had the game mapped and that he was always one or two steps ahead of the defense. He may not have been particularly influential that night because we were so disjointed but all of the signs were there and he's only gotten better since. Mentally, he's the most exciting attacking prospect we've had since Rooney.

He's only out on loan to prove that he can cope with the physical side of the professional game in England. So far, so good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 19, 2017, 11:54:46 PM
Seen Galloway a few times for Sunderland and he's struggling big time defensively.

Browning has looked assured.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on August 20, 2017, 01:11:10 AM
https://twitter.com/nffcbrasil/status/898923278336749568
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2017, 01:59:33 AM
Seems to be doing the business doesn't he.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lazarou on August 20, 2017, 01:02:20 PM
Looks a different class in the Championship.

🎥Kieran Dowell

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Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 20, 2017, 01:20:23 PM
Seen Galloway a few times for Sunderland and he's struggling big time defensively.

Browning has looked assured.
Yep. Oviedo is fit again so Galloway will be on the bench next game. He'll be sat on his arse for the rest of the season unless he sorts himself out. He's not a left back, he should've had a loan move where he was going to get minutes as a CB.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Goaljira on August 20, 2017, 02:54:02 PM
Going for the old reverse psychology.

https://twitter.com/liampsmith91/status/898942470792327168
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 20, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHaIfSpace/status/899076561210675201
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cassius on August 20, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
Loved watching that Dowell compilation. He's added more physicality to his game and looks to be developing really well.

I never thought he had quite enough enough pace but on the basis of those clips, he doesn't need it as he has an extra second or two in his mind.

Hope that last sentence made sense.

#betterthanbarkley
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2017, 05:06:45 PM
Looks to have toughened up already doesn't he. Using his body well to manipulate the ball. Impressive.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on August 20, 2017, 05:11:43 PM
Being in Nottingham and the fact that he looks like he'll be getting regular starts - I'm going to pop along with some of my Forest mates to wtch him in the flesh I think.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: ally2 on August 20, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
Those are pretty impressive highlights considering we're not even in September.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: mikey_blue on August 20, 2017, 05:47:38 PM
Chuffed for Dowell. Really hope this lad can fill his potential.

There's one thing in buying big players, but seeing your club bring through local lads and playing for you at the top level is always better.

Got a feeling him and Davies are going to be big time for us.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: dazfrancis on August 20, 2017, 05:53:24 PM
Those are pretty impressive highlights considering we're not even in September.

Some people don't amass highlights like that during their whole career.

That flick from the corner over the defender for the assist  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2017, 06:37:07 PM
http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/kieran-dowell-something-special-five-351400

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Kieran Dowell is an incredible talent

Forest have had some wonderful midfielders over the years, the likes of John McGovern, Nigel Clough and Roy Keane to name but three.

Kieran Dowell is something special and you can see why he’s so highly rated at Everton.

There’s no histrionics with him, he just plays the game as it should be played and has such a fine football brain that will take him to the very highest level.

Give it a couple of years, he may well be talked about as one of the top midfielders in England.

His impact against Middlesbrough was hugely impressive and, while the majority of it came in the first half, partly because Forest lacked an element of control once David Vaughan departed before the break, he was key to much of the good work that his side did amid a performance that, at times, oozed quality.

His fleet-footed nature ensures he glides around the pitch effortlessly and sees things that others don’t. A case in point was the ball he played through that cut Boro’s defence apart for Barrie McKay to open the scoring which was nothing short of sublime.

Dowell is already becoming a firm fixture in this Forest side and his style and panache typifies the way in which Mark Warburton likes his team to play.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 20, 2017, 08:07:14 PM
Has the word panache ever been used before to describe a Warburton side?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 20, 2017, 08:25:47 PM
Has the word panache ever been used before to describe a Warburton side?

Warburtons Panache.

The finest Artisan Loaf.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Rodenplav64 on August 20, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Always had a soft spot for Forest and it would be good to see them back in the big time . If we provide them with a player who plays a big part then that can only be good for the club .
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on August 21, 2017, 06:00:47 AM
Those are pretty impressive highlights considering we're not even in September.
3 games. That's all they're from.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: blargins on August 21, 2017, 06:02:37 AM
Anyone know how Orinoco Flow or whatever his name is, over in Anderlecht is doing?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 21, 2017, 07:00:40 AM
I actually do want to know what's happenned to Tarashaj, is he alive? Is he with the U23s? Have we sold him? Seems like he's dropped off the face of he earth!
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jamokachi on August 21, 2017, 08:35:17 AM
I actually do want to know what's happenned to Tarashaj, is he alive? Is he with the U23s? Have we sold him? Seems like he's dropped off the face of he earth!

Injured apparently. This is from an article dated the 15th of August:

Quote
As for striker Shani Tarashaj (22 years), back in Everton, he was operated meniscus. Like his comrade, the unfortunate must wear crutches and miss the Swiss-Andorra meeting in St. Gallen. (The morning)

https://www.lematin.ch/sports/football/widmer-tarashaj-forfaits-andorre/story/17689115
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 03:02:25 PM
A touch of the Leandro Rodriguez about Tarashaj isn't there. Or a Niasse.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: hill135 on August 21, 2017, 03:20:30 PM
Ron probably took one look at him and deemed him shite like all of Roberto's other gambles.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jamokachi on August 21, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
He was highly rated when we got him, by all accounts.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 21, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Absolutely nothing surprising about what Dowell is doing at Forest. He's too good for that level. You could see at age 17, when he made his debut against Krasnodar, that he had the game mapped and that he was always one or two steps ahead of the defense. He may not have been particularly influential that night because we were so disjointed but all of the signs were there and he's only gotten better since. Mentally, he's the most exciting attacking prospect we've had since Rooney.

He's only out on loan to prove that he can cope with the physical side of the professional game in England. So far, so good.  :thumbsup:

i agree ^^ 1000%

which is why i thought he was good enough to stay with us this season. true he would have got about half the games he will have at forest, but i wanted to see him develop with us, but evertonians being what they are, like to knock our own players for being not good enough/too young, when they haven;t even seen them play

Dowell would offer Everton something different this year, something we haven't got. something we need.. but we'll have to wait till next season.

Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 21, 2017, 05:33:53 PM
Like I suspect many have done, I signed up for NSNO like a giddy teenager finally old enough to go down to the pub only to promptly forget my password for a week :bonk:

Been loving the updates in here since, I am a bit of an U23 progress stalker but some of you have found things I missed :hail:

I've adopted Sunderland as my lower-league team of interest since watching them for Anichebe/Pienaar last year (hey, I got good Pickford knowledge from it, diagonals to Vic).

This year so far they have certainly been doing alright, I don't see them coming back up this season but onto our lads!

Browning has not put a foot wrong that I have seen (streams), I also read a bit of Sunderland RTG forums and he sounds like a rare totally safe, no-nonsense defender.

Galloway on the other hand... he is dangerous at both ends of the pitch if you get my meaning. He just seems to get skinned inside or out and rarely anticipates what his attacker is going to do.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Gary1878 on August 21, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
With both Davies and Dowell next year, they could be running the midfield very soon! Just wish Barkley might reconsider and then we could have Davies, Dowell, Rooney and Barkley all in the same team!
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 06:33:36 PM
i agree ^^ 1000%

which is why i thought he was good enough to stay with us this season. true he would have got about half the games he will have at forest, but i wanted to see him develop with us, but evertonians being what they are, like to knock our own players for being not good enough/too young, when they haven;t even seen them play

Dowell would offer Everton something different this year, something we haven't got. something we need.. but we'll have to wait till next season.



Not sure you're correct here. What would Dowell offer that Sigurdsson, Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen (or even Barkley as he's still here) don't?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on August 21, 2017, 06:45:38 PM
Did hear a rumour that Koeman isn't in to dowell.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 21, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
Not sure you're correct here. What would Dowell offer that Sigurdsson, Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen (or even Barkley as he's still here) don't?

same as what Rooney offered when he broke into the team 13 years ago.. an evertonian, who came through the ranks, none of the players you mentioned offer us the total package that Dowell does, skill,technique,determination,youth that is coming through our system and has won the world cup.
id actually have Dowell start ahead of the players you mentioned Lxxx. but thats just a personal preference.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: GLewis on August 21, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
i agree ^^ 1000%

which is why i thought he was good enough to stay with us this season. true he would have got about half the games he will have at forest, but i wanted to see him develop with us, but evertonians being what they are, like to knock our own players for being not good enough/too young, when they haven;t even seen them play

Dowell would offer Everton something different this year, something we haven't got. something we need.. but we'll have to wait till next season.



He wouldn't get close to half the game time that he'll get at Forest.

It's a long season down there and part of the point of the loan will be seeing if he can keep doing this all through the season.

The weakness in his game is being involved all the time. In pre season his goals stood out but he can sometimes disappear. A normal problem for a young player and sometimes players of his style.

So it's much better to get him out somewhere to get used to having to do more, much more regularly.

And it is a level below. He is supposed to look better at that level.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 25, 2017, 03:40:49 PM
Does anyone know a Leeds fan to find out what is going on with Pennington's latest injury?

He hasn't even been in a squad since going off in their opening game :-\
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Bally on August 25, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
Does anyone know a Leeds fan to find out what is going on with Pennington's latest injury?

He hasn't even been in a squad since going off in their opening game :-\
Jarred his knee don't know extent of damage
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 01, 2017, 06:27:26 AM
Liam Walsh has secured a loan :D

Gone to Birmingham :clap:
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
Connolly gone to Ipswich on loan too
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on September 01, 2017, 06:28:59 AM
Our U23 team is basically the championship then
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Ravardo on September 01, 2017, 06:36:48 AM
Can we call dowell back from his loan incase he might be needed later?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: kramer0 on September 01, 2017, 08:06:22 AM
Updated Prediction: This is going to become the Kieran Dowell and Liam Walsh thread (with occasional tidbits about our other players out on loan).
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on September 01, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
Liam Walsh has secured a loan :D

Gone to Birmingham :clap:

Not too sure I can see the logic in this. Jack Wheelchair will play every game
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 01, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
Not too sure I can see the logic in this. Jack Wheelchair will play every game

Nothing confirmed around him, was there? I see he was linked.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on September 01, 2017, 04:11:58 PM
Nothing confirmed around him, was there? I see he was linked.

I dunno I just assumed it was done. I turned off SSN about tea-time and they were discussing it then.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 01, 2017, 06:08:44 PM
Not sure you're correct here. What would Dowell offer that Sigurdsson, Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen (or even Barkley as he's still here) don't?
Dowell would get goals, only Rooney out the guys your mentioned has done so this season,  also it would be great to have a rm/lm who wasnt a number 10.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: bluenuck on September 26, 2017, 12:49:59 AM
Leeds playing well.

Pennington only involved in one game though. Was he injured?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2017, 01:01:26 AM
Leeds playing well.

Pennington only involved in one game though. Was he injured?
First game yeah
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Trowel on October 29, 2017, 01:17:15 AM
Hat-trick for Dowell :)
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Trowel on October 29, 2017, 01:26:20 AM
Included another one of his specials!

https://twitter.com/NFFCUSA/status/924321166696869888
Title: Keirin dowell
Post by: boothill on October 29, 2017, 01:31:45 AM
Just banged a hatrick in for forrest against hull
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Trowel on October 29, 2017, 01:43:50 AM
Just banged a hatrick in for forrest against hull
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNKwayUX0AE3uAH.jpg)
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on October 29, 2017, 01:54:58 AM
Best thing about Dowell's hat-trick?

The last one was a penalty and he wanted to take it for the hat-trick and the other Forest players wanted him to get the hat-trick too. They love him down here!
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 29, 2017, 01:58:19 AM
Best thing about Dowell's hat-trick?

The last one was a penalty and he wanted to take it for the hat-trick and the other Forest players wanted him to get the hat-trick too. They love him down here!

I met a Forrest fan at a caravan park the other week (he was a friend of a friend). I said to him "you've got one of our lads", he said "ye, he's shit" and walked off. Cunt.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on October 29, 2017, 01:05:52 AM
I met a Forrest fan at a caravan park the other week (he was a friend of a friend). I said to him "you've got one of our lads", he said "ye, he's shit" and walked off. Cunt.
He will revisit that remark in his head now ...hahaha 😅
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on October 29, 2017, 01:05:54 AM
I met a Forrest fan at a caravan park the other week (he was a friend of a friend). I said to him "you've got one of our lads", he said "he, he's shit" and walked off. Cunt.

Hhahahahahaha! Sounds about right.

Nottingham seems to have the highest proportion of shit fans I have ever encountered.

Growing up in Nottingham and being a football fan I have been to plenty of Forest and County games over the years. The one thing that always amazes me is that Nottingham teams get so much abuse from their own fans that they must feel like they are playing away every week.

I went to my first Notts County game and they were 2 goals up by half time. IN the second half they conceded a goal in the first few minutes and proceeded to get dogs abuse for the rest of the game - even though they got it back to 3-1 within about 10 mins of conceding. Forest fans are the same. Straight on their own teams backs for the slightest thing.

We've all sat by Blues who give abuse to our own fans but trust me - I used to be a season ticket holder at Goodison before we moved to Nottingham - it is WAY, WAY worse in Robin Hood country. WAY worse.

There's some good'uns as well, of course, but they are deffo the minority.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 29, 2017, 01:07:15 AM
Hhahahahahaha! Sounds about right.

Nottingham seems to have the highest proportion of shit fans I have ever encountered.

Growing up in Nottingham and being a football fan I have been to plenty of Forest and County games over the years. The one thing that always amazes me is that Nottingham teams get so much abuse from their own fans that they must feel like they are playing away every week.

I went to my first Notts County game and they were 2 goals up by half time. IN the second half they conceded a goal in the first few minutes and proceeded to get dogs abuse for the rest of the game - even though they got it back to 3-1 within about 10 mins of conceding. Forest fans are the same. Straight on their own teams backs for the slightest thing.

We've all sat by Blues who give abuse to our own fans but trust me - I used to be a season ticket holder at Goodison before we moved to Nottingham - it is WAY, WAY worse in Robin Hood country. WAY worse.

There's some good'uns as well, of course, but they are deffo the minority.

Considered punching him.

But just fingered his wife in the disabled toilets instead, made me feel better.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on October 29, 2017, 01:09:30 AM
Considered punching him.

But just fingered his wife in the disabled toilets instead, made me feel better.

Make love - not war. You took the moral high ground my friend and I am proud you responded to unkindness with kindness. You are a saint.
Title: Dowell Hatrick! (Back in Jan?)
Post by: Buck76 on October 29, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
You think he’s had a phone call off unsie?..... Seems like everyone’s had a boost from the new (temp) management, gutted we farmed him out in the first place..

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11103597/dowell-proud-of-perf
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 01, 2017, 05:57:40 AM
What a goal

https://twitter.com/Spuggyno2/status/925474212990586880
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on November 01, 2017, 06:29:37 AM
Belter well done the lad.

What pos does he play?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 01, 2017, 02:11:23 PM
Belter well done the lad.

What pos does he play?

In before the #10 shout.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on November 01, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
Belter well done the lad.

What pos does he play?

Pretty sure he's a DM
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: BlueForYou on November 01, 2017, 03:14:31 PM
Koeman brought him into the first team squad (subs bench) end of last season
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: dazfrancis on November 01, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Dowell looks like he has filled out over the last year, the physicality of the championship looks no bother for him.

That highlight reel of his first month at forest that was posted back in september was ridiculous
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: everton1952 on November 01, 2017, 10:47:11 PM
Can we get him back in January? That would be one striker role filled.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 01, 2017, 10:49:46 PM
Can we get him back in January? That would be one striker role filled.
He isn't a striker
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: di_guyo on November 01, 2017, 10:53:25 PM
Dowell looks like he has filled out over the last year, the physicality of the championship looks no bother for him.

That highlight reel of his first month at forest that was posted back in september was ridiculous

still gets some criticism from forest fans for being too light weight and on the periphery of the game. not one to take it by the scruff of the neck and get stuck in .
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: everton1952 on November 01, 2017, 11:32:30 PM
Oh. I saw his goals and thought if only we had a player who could do that. Give them DCL on loan in his place. (We could kid them he is a striker).
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Major Clanger on November 04, 2017, 09:54:51 PM
Dowell's been having another good game so far.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 04, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
Another goal for Dowell
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Major Clanger on November 04, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
Another goal for Dowell

And been involved in the other two too.

I just hope we don't recall him mid-season.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on November 04, 2017, 10:57:32 PM
Robinson is impressing at Bolton
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Goaljira on November 04, 2017, 11:14:33 PM
And been involved in the other two too.

I just hope we don't recall him mid-season.

We can't recall him.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Major Clanger on November 04, 2017, 11:33:28 PM
We can't recall him.

That's a relief. I'm convinced Coleman wouldn't be half the player he became if he hadn't done the end of the promotion season with Blackpool.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: TheRam on November 04, 2017, 11:40:48 PM
Joe Willams doing very well at Barnsley too.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 05, 2017, 12:02:01 AM
Can we get him back in January? That would be one striker role filled.

no recall option on the loan.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on November 05, 2017, 12:02:59 AM
We can't recall him.

Thought Unsworth said on the radio we could?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 05, 2017, 12:03:16 AM
Dowell’s slow and his best position is #10. Happy days.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on November 05, 2017, 05:44:33 PM
How about Liam Walsh, anyone caught any Birmingham games?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: kramer0 on November 05, 2017, 06:41:30 PM
How about Liam Walsh, anyone caught any Birmingham games?

Hardly playing, unfortunately. One of the loans we got badly wrong.

Ditto for Connolly at Ipswich.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on November 05, 2017, 08:08:58 PM
Hardly playing, unfortunately. One of the loans we got badly wrong.

Ditto for Connolly at Ipswich.

Both loans seemed a bit last minute and rushed anyway. Almost like it got so late in the window that we'd rather send them anywhere than have them spend another 6 months in the U-23's. We were probably rushed off our feet with other transfer dealings too to really do our due diligence on every deal at that time.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: TheRam on November 05, 2017, 08:12:14 PM
Shame about Liam Walsh.

All it takes is one bad loan move and it can set a player back in their development.

Title: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: kramer0 on November 05, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
It might all be for nothing anyway, especially if we get Allardyce.

There are things I like about Allardyce — defending, set pieces, shot locations — but he is death for youth players. Given how much talent we have in the U23s, I would be very uncomfortable with the club appointing a manager that's more likely to push them out than bring them into the team.

Dyche might be okay for the U23s, as he has at least some record improving young players, although I don't see how someone like Dowell fits his approach. And Dowell is someone we really need to be working with. Creative, technical, great footballing brain, and raised at the club.

This is where our failure to hire Favre, and current inability to hire Tuchel (he'd be crazy to walk into this shit show), really fucks us. Both managers appreciate smart, technical players and aren’t afraid to give youth a chance.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: smellybum on November 05, 2017, 08:58:28 PM
It might all be for nothing anyway, especially if we get Allardyce.

There are things I like about Allardyce — defending, set pieces, shot locations — but he is death for youth players. Given how much talent we have in the U23s, I would be very uncomfortable with the club appointing a manager that's more likely to push them out than bring them into the team.

Dyche might be okay for the U23s, as he has at least some record improving young players, although I don't see how someone like Dowell fits his approach. And Dowell is someone we really need to be working with. Creative, technical, great footballing brain, and raised at the club.

This is where our failure to hire Favre, and current inability to hire Tuchel (he'd be crazy to walk into this shit show), really fucks us. Both managers appreciate smart, technical players and aren’t afraid to give youth a chance.

You could also look at it another way. We have some young defenders who might benefit from working under Dyche or Allerdyce. Being involved in regime that works hard and looks to improve the defensive side of the game. Look at the youngsters we have at the back. Browning, Kenny, Galloway, Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and you can even throw Funes Mori into that as well. There is a ton of potential there that is probably being wasted. Tap into that and really work with them and we may actually have a set of defenders that can take us forward and save us a ton on cash which can be invested elsewhere. It's not all about the forwards. As the saying goes. Build from the back.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on November 05, 2017, 09:15:48 PM
You could also look at it another way. We have some young defenders who might benefit from working under Dyche or Allerdyce. Being involved in regime that works hard and looks to improve the defensive side of the game. Look at the youngsters we have at the back. Browning, Kenny, Galloway, Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and you can even throw Funes Mori into that as well. There is a ton of potential there that is probably being wasted. Tap into that and really work with them and we may actually have a set of defenders that can take us forward and save us a ton on cash which can be invested elsewhere. It's not all about the forwards. As the saying goes. Build from the back.

Decent point. Feels a bit like we need to go back to basics and then work it out from there. I'd rather it wasn't Allardyce but someone needs to instil a bit of shape into us again.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: pjk on November 13, 2017, 03:45:49 AM
Cracking goal from Joe Williams, up for Barnsley's goal of the month. :P



https://twitter.com/BarnsleyFC/status/929692718057574400
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on November 13, 2017, 04:53:10 PM
You could also look at it another way. We have some young defenders who might benefit from working under Dyche or Allerdyce. Being involved in regime that works hard and looks to improve the defensive side of the game. Look at the youngsters we have at the back. Browning, Kenny, Galloway, Garbutt, Keane, Holgate and you can even throw Funes Mori into that as well. There is a ton of potential there that is probably being wasted. Tap into that and really work with them and we may actually have a set of defenders that can take us forward and save us a ton on cash which can be invested elsewhere. It's not all about the forwards. As the saying goes. Build from the back.

I don't think Moshiri's football wisdom extends to that though. He wants a sexy manager playing sexy football to go along with his sexy new stadium. Nothing wrong with that dream like, as long as it's achievable.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Hawkandro on November 13, 2017, 06:45:34 PM
The Connolly loan was stupid in the first place.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2018, 07:22:40 AM
Am I right in thinking this sums up how the following have done on loan this season?

The Good: Onyekuru (Anderlecht) J. Williams (Barnsley) Dowell (Forest) Robinson (Bolton) Besic (Middlesborough)
The Bad: Browning (Sunderland) Pennington (Leeds) Mirallas (Olympakos)
The Ugly: Galloway (Sunderland) Sandro (Sevilla)

Lookman being debated in another thread.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Ramjam on April 18, 2018, 08:03:43 AM
Browning and Galloway were both highly rated a couple of seasons ago so they might still have a chance under the right manager, Dowell and Onyekuru will have a future here the rest are finished
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 18, 2018, 03:39:16 PM
Am I right in thinking this sums up how the following have done on loan this season?

The Good: Onyekuru (Anderlecht) J. Williams (Barnsley) Dowell (Forest) Robinson (Bolton) Besic (Middlesborough)
The Bad: Browning (Sunderland) Pennington (Leeds) Mirallas (Olympakos)
The Ugly: Galloway (Sunderland) Sandro (Sevilla)

Lookman being debated in another thread.

Sandro not doing too badly at Sevilla. He's not starting games but when he has been on, he's looked half decent.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 18, 2018, 04:11:22 PM
Am I right in thinking this sums up how the following have done on loan this season?

The Good: Onyekuru (Anderlecht) J. Williams (Barnsley) Dowell (Forest) Robinson (Bolton) Besic (Middlesborough)
The Bad: Browning (Sunderland) Pennington (Leeds) Mirallas (Olympakos)
The Ugly: Galloway (Sunderland) Sandro (Sevilla)

Lookman being debated in another thread.
Thought, despite how shit Sunderland are browning had done OK?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2018, 04:23:31 PM
Thought, despite how shit Sunderland are browning had done OK?

Think he started off alright but gradually sunk with the rest of the team. Been out injured for the last month or so.

Never going to make it here anyway tbf.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 18, 2018, 05:05:19 PM
Think he started off alright but gradually sunk with the rest of the team. Been out injured for the last month or so.

Never going to make it here anyway tbf.
Yeah agree with that
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on April 18, 2018, 06:03:34 PM
Sandro not doing too badly at Sevilla. He's not starting games but when he has been on, he's looked half decent.

Most on here wrote him off without seeing him get a proper chance id like to see Sandro after ten games before judging him same with Klassen .
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 18, 2018, 06:12:08 PM
Most on here wrote him off without seeing him get a proper chance id like to see Sandro after ten games before judging him same with Klassen .

God forbid any new players are given time to settle and get used to the league/country though mate.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: TheRam on April 18, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
Most on here wrote him off without seeing him get a proper chance id like to see Sandro after ten games before judging him same with Klassen .

I've seen enough of him to know he's not a very good player.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
I've seen enough of him to know he's not a very good player.

He started badly, we started badly and it snowballed from there. He'd probably do alright playing every week under less pressure where he could gain his confidence back and reproduce the form he showed at Malaga. Unfortunately he won't get that time or patience here so if he's not up to it then best to move him on.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on April 18, 2018, 07:00:24 PM
I've seen enough of him to know he's not a very good player.

Yeah because just anyone can score 14 a season in Spain....
maybe you should apply for Walsh's job ...I mean if you base a players potential on a few games in a new team and country given 10 or 20 mins a game your over qualified for Walsh's job.👍
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Macca77 on April 18, 2018, 07:21:58 PM
Sandro is very average, cost us next to nothing, we'll get our money back plus a bit more. He's no loss to us whatsoever.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2018, 07:28:18 PM
Sandro is very average, cost us next to nothing, we'll get our money back plus a bit more. He's no loss to us whatsoever.

The issue we'll have is the level of clubs he'll attract (and the level he is at) don't pay the kind of wages he's on.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Macca77 on April 18, 2018, 07:30:39 PM
The issue we'll have is the level of clubs he'll attract (and the level he is at) don't pay the kind of wages he's on.

Very true, read somewhere that he's on £130k a week here, what an absolute shambles that is.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 18, 2018, 07:42:27 PM
Sandro's situation reminds me a bit of Aspas at Liverpool. Didn't really get much time to settle, struggled when he did play and was subsequently moved on. He's banging the goals in for Celta now, as he was before his move to England, and he's a regular in the Spain squad. I would personally like to see Sandro given a bit of time under a new manager before we write him off as not very good. Better players than him have been made to look shite in a struggling team.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2018, 09:08:27 PM
Issue I have with Sandro is he doesn’t seem like wants to succeed at Everton.

Went off to Sevilla at the drop of a hat and said he wanted to jib us after a week of leaving.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2018, 09:22:47 PM
Issue I have with Sandro is he doesn’t seem like wants to succeed at Everton.

Went off to Sevilla at the drop of a hat and said he wanted to jib us after a week of leaving.

To be fair if most of this squad could escape the shitstorm, piss off to the sun and keep on drawing their inflated wages they’d all do the same. I know I would.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2018, 09:33:00 PM
Issue I have with Sandro is he doesn’t seem like wants to succeed at Everton.

Went off to Sevilla at the drop of a hat and said he wanted to jib us after a week of leaving.

I can kind of see his point. Him and klassen have been shit but do any of us really think they’ve been so bad (compared to all the rest of the shit) to completely lose their minutes. It’s been a complete shit storm and yet different players seem to have got completely different treatment
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2018, 11:19:08 PM
I can kind of see his point. Him and klassen have been shit but do any of us really think they’ve been so bad (compared to all the rest of the shit) to completely lose their minutes. It’s been a complete shit storm and yet different players seem to have got completely different treatment

I can see his point but if you’re going to come here on £120k week then I’d expect more commitment than that
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on April 18, 2018, 11:29:50 PM
I can see his point but if you’re going to come here on £120k week then I’d expect more commitment than that
good point on the contract but...
 the same could be said for the player no????.....signed 130k a week didn't expect to be given no real opportunity to even find form .... .rekon anyone in his boat would've fucked off too.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on April 19, 2018, 12:07:20 AM
In soccernomics they say you should give a player at least a year, more if the culture shock is greater. Also doing anything you can to help players settle tends to shorten that time.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 19, 2018, 12:26:18 AM
Henry and Ademola will hopefully come back and challenge for a squad place but can’t see the others getting close. Dowell is a great technical player but he’s slow, weak and has a pretty poor work rate. Even though he has been arguably Forest’s best player, he was benched as they’re too open when he’s in the team. The opposition just pass around him.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: ajax_andy on April 19, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
In soccernomics they say you should give a player at least a year, more if the culture shock is greater. Also doing anything you can to help players settle tends to shorten that time.

Agreed, I've been watching this thing on Netflix about Premier League greats and the one on Paulo Di Canio kind of hammers this home... He moved from AC Milan to Celtic and said he got on a plane in 35 degree heat (or something like that) and got off the plane in 2 degrees at Glasgow.

Climate, language and culture change to such an extent will take a decent amount of time for a lot of people in life, let alone those with the pressure of performing in front of tens of thousands of people
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on April 28, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Besic looks excellent for Boro
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: bogie on April 29, 2018, 12:20:06 AM
wrong bit sorry
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on April 29, 2018, 12:23:13 AM
Besic looks excellent for Boro

Would've had a better season for us in Scneiderlin's stead I rekon .
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: bogie on April 29, 2018, 12:26:00 AM
Would've had a better season for us in Scneiderlin's stead I rekon .

yeah but you live in world of your own
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on April 29, 2018, 12:42:34 AM
yeah but you live in world of your own

Have a day off ....just once troll .
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2018, 12:51:20 AM
Besic looks excellent for Boro
Still think there's a decent pl player in him tbh
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Gash on April 29, 2018, 12:56:00 AM
Besic looks excellent for Boro

I still think he's decent but he's getting to an age where he can't be changed massively. An injury free run will have done him a power of good though.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2018, 01:07:26 AM
I still think he's decent but he's getting to an age where he can't be changed massively. An injury free run will have done him a power of good though.
Yeah he's never gonna change. I think he has the basic attributes to have a decent career tho, pl level
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Major Clanger on April 29, 2018, 01:44:00 AM
I still think he's decent but he's getting to an age where he can't be changed massively. An injury free run will have done him a power of good though.

His abilities aren't going to improve but mentality and decision making can change even at his age. He'll never be a world beater, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 29, 2018, 04:13:18 AM
Besic looks excellent for Boro

Really  ???

Few hard tackles, tons of misplaced passes, couple of horrendous efforts at goal
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Bally on April 29, 2018, 03:02:18 PM
yeah but you live in world of your own
Don't think there has ever been a more ironic post than this.

Made me chuckle
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Bally on April 29, 2018, 03:03:00 PM
Love Besic me like
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on April 29, 2018, 03:13:40 PM
Love Besic me like

Me too. Would have him over Schneiderlin every time - at least no-one ever accused Besic of not turning up and putting the work in. I also know who I'd rather play against in the middle of the park. It'd be a stroll against Schneiderlin but Besic would give you nightmares all game for 90+ mins.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Free Agent on April 29, 2018, 03:46:39 PM
His abilities aren't going to improve but mentality and decision making can change even at his age. He'll never be a world beater, that's for sure.

Yeah, but he did chase down and tackle Ronaldo once you know  :snigger:
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: TheRam on May 16, 2018, 02:23:29 AM
Besic takes to many touches on the ball.

Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: blue slug on May 16, 2018, 03:27:26 AM
He’s a grafter that’s for sure and gives everything but he’s just not a skilled  footballer at all
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 16, 2018, 03:37:23 AM
Every time I flick over to see some of it, he appears to just be fouling Grealish constantly....
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2018, 05:45:50 AM
Besic takes to many touches on the ball.



Indeed, for example if he takes another for the club it will be too many.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: bigac on May 23, 2018, 01:11:04 AM
No world cup place for Mirallas. Bobby Martinez gets his payback. Not gone very well for the golden car wonder.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 23, 2018, 01:22:49 AM
No world cup place for Mirallas. Bobby Martinez gets his payback. Not gone very well for the golden car wonder.

He’s dropped nainggolan too. Can’t wait til he gets himself sacked
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: gizzblue on May 23, 2018, 01:28:10 AM
Don't think there has ever been a more ironic post than this.

Made me chuckle

Irony impairment is a serious issue and should be mocked at every opportunity  lolol
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2018, 01:28:38 AM
No world cup place for Mirallas. Bobby Martinez gets his payback. Not gone very well for the golden car wonder.

To be fair, he was never getting near the squad no matter who was in charge. He's never been much more than fringe player for them anyway.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: sam of the south on May 23, 2018, 01:47:42 AM
Yeah, but he did chase down and tackle Ronaldo once you know  :snigger:

It was Gareth Bale
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: velimski on May 23, 2018, 02:06:34 AM
It was Gareth Bale

I actually thought it was Messi.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on May 23, 2018, 02:13:17 AM
I actually thought it was Messi.

There was a video of him man marking Messi for a whole game, and another of him catching up with a dribbling bale and tackling him. He also dominated peak Yaya.

But, whenever you actually see him play he’s just a bit too erratic.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: sam of the south on May 23, 2018, 02:18:04 AM
I actually thought it was Messi.

He marked Messi well during the last World Cup which got him his move, but the keeping pace with and tackling of a top player happened against Bale.

Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on May 29, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
Indeed, for example if he takes another for the club it will be too many.

I disagree with this - the like was  for making me laugh! :)
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on May 29, 2018, 01:58:38 PM
He marked Messi well during the last World Cup which got him his move, but the keeping pace with and tackling of a top player happened against Bale.


There's a better vid than this - this is the same tackle repeated. In the other vid he gets the better of Bale 6 or 7 times and paces him 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: sam of the south on May 29, 2018, 02:38:48 PM
There's a better vid than this - this is the same tackle repeated. In the other vid he gets the better of Bale 6 or 7 times and paces him 2 or 3.

Oh really, I’m pretty sure he only got the better of Bale once?

Does the vid exist, then?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on May 29, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
Oh really, I’m pretty sure he only got the better of Bale once?

Does the vid exist, then?



Watch This.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: sam of the south on May 29, 2018, 08:21:34 PM


Watch This.

👍🏼

I always thought he’d make an excellent WB/FB if perservered with.

We’ve got a lad here who has done successful marking jobs on Messi and Bale early in his career, and none of our manager’s have managed to get a tune out of him.

I know he’s had his injuries, but he’s been mainly fine at Middlesborough, and this again points at our coaching in no small part.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Toddacelli on May 29, 2018, 08:24:46 PM
👍🏼

I always thought he’d make an excellent WB/FB if perservered with.

We’ve got a lad here who has done successful marking jobs on Messi and Bale early in his career, and none of our manager’s have managed to get a tune out of him.

I know he’s had his injuries, but he’s been mainly fine at Middlesborough, and this again points at our coaching in no small part.

I also think he may be a big-game player. I know everyone thinks he'd get sent off in a derby match but he'd be one of the first names on the team-sheet for me because at least he'd show his teeth and compete. There's no tummy-tickling on Besic's watch.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Juanito on May 29, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Last memory of watching Besic for Everton was under Martinez, he started a game, ran around like a headless chicken (it was like he was drunk) kept leaving gaping holes in the middle of the park and I think we were 2/3 down by half time then he was hauled off. It was at Goodison, too.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 29, 2018, 08:44:10 PM
whats going on with Onyekuru? Seen reports that Anderlecht not played him so he didnt go to World Cup so we cant get him a work permit?
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 29, 2018, 09:29:15 PM
whats going on with Onyekuru? Seen reports that Anderlecht not played him so he didnt go to World Cup so we cant get him a work permit?
He's been injured for ages hasn't he
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Lxxx on May 29, 2018, 09:52:34 PM
Last memory of watching Besic for Everton was under Martinez, he started a game, ran around like a headless chicken (it was like he was drunk) kept leaving gaping holes in the middle of the park and I think we were 2/3 down by half time then he was hauled off. It was at Goodison, too.

I think that's basically my only memory of him.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2018, 10:47:21 PM
He was quite good in Martinez’s second season imo.

Class in the match against City at Goodison in the cup.
Title: Re: Players on loan 17/18
Post by: brap2 on May 29, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
whats going on with Onyekuru? Seen reports that Anderlecht not played him so he didnt go to World Cup so we cant get him a work permit?

Rumours that anderlecht didn’t play him despite him being fit, so he wouldn’t go the World Cup.

He’s reacted today and basically put the manager on blast - stupid idea, I can go anywhere and I won’t be going to anderlecht type stuff.

All a bit mad, big shame for us but hopefully he can go and enjoy another year somewhere else and bang goals.