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Title: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 18, 2017, 05:53:46 PM
Bit more confident about this after last night's first half, although they'll obviously be a tougher opposition.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 18, 2017, 06:02:07 PM
I'd be telling fibs if I said I was looking forward to this game

I'm dreading it to be honest
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 18, 2017, 06:03:54 PM
This is a big test. If our defence plays to their potential it could be very interesting indeed.. Our extra competitive games might play to our advantage against their new defence. Wayne should be even more motivated for this (if that is possible).
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: pjk on August 18, 2017, 06:05:49 PM
The team is definitely starting to gel. Maybe this game is a bit early for us, but if we play like we did in the first half against Hajduk, and can do it for the 90 minutes; we could do OK. I've gone for a 2-2 draw in the prediction league. I don't like predicting Everton losses, so a draw was the next best thing. I could see us getting something from this. City didn't set the world on fire when they played against Brighton.  :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 18, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
 Be surprised if it not 3 at the back.

Pickford
Keane Williams Jagielka
Davies Schneiderlin Gana Baines
Rooney
DCL Sandro

Maybe Rooney up front and Sigurdsson in for Sandro? Depending on fitness
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 18, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
Be surprised if it not 3 at the back.

Pickford
Keane Williams Jagielka
Davies Schneiderlin Gana Baines
Rooney
DCL Sandro

Maybe Rooney up front and Sigurdsson in for Sandro? Depending on fitness

Makes me shudder that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Waltzer on August 18, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
If we have 3 at the back Pickford might think hes back at Sunderland with all the shots raining down on him. Seems to be Koemans favoured option but it never seems to work
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 18, 2017, 06:53:46 PM
Makes me shudder that.

This team got us a draw there five years ago

Howard
Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines
Oviedo Gibson Heitinga Pienaar
Osman
Fellaini
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 18, 2017, 06:54:47 PM
Pickford
Martina Keane Jagielka Baines
Davies Schneiderlin Gueye
Rooney Klaasen
DCL/Sandro*

*Sandro if he is fit obviously

Klassen to do his normal shift and Sigurdsson to replace him after an hour
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Dreading it, total write off this for me.

Get through it without a total bumming and move on.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 18, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
I just hope we get out of there alive
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 18, 2017, 07:34:33 PM
This team got us a draw there five years ago

Howard
Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines
Oviedo Gibson Heitinga Pienaar
Osman
Fellaini

It's more the three at the back that was making me nervous.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on August 18, 2017, 07:41:34 PM
I think three at the back would be a disaster. They post a front three so it would be one each, and ours are slow. I'd post three conservative midfielders in front of the back four then hope or front three come up with something!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 18, 2017, 07:47:12 PM
I think three at the back would be a disaster. They post a front three so it would be one each, and ours are slow. I'd post three conservative midfielders in front of the back four then hope or front three come up with something!

This has to be the way forward. Same team as started last night actually, with maybe Lookman for Mirallas/Sandro.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 18, 2017, 07:55:34 PM
We'll get at least a point from this game
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 18, 2017, 07:58:37 PM
How did pep get overcome in Spain?

Think it was aggressive, compact teams like Atletico who can then hit you on the break over the high line to griezmann.

Fingers crossed Sandro is fit, would like to see him playing that role.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 18, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
Hope Davies is playing, imagine the amount of freekicks he will win for Sig!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 18, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola on Everton: "Everton are a top squad and they have bought good players.

"They are one of the best teams in the league - I am sure of that."
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 18, 2017, 08:35:42 PM
I just hope we get out of there alive

You just better start sniffin' your own rank subjugation jack 'cause it's just
you against your tattered libido, the bank and the mortician, forever man and it
wouldn't be luck if you could get out of life alive
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueski on August 18, 2017, 09:09:45 PM
well the managers will be up for this one for sure
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 18, 2017, 09:47:51 PM
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola on Everton: "Everton are a top squad and they have bought good players.

"They are one of the best teams in the league - I am sure of that."

You can tell he's Koemans best mate.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: gizzblue on August 18, 2017, 09:50:19 PM
Dreading it, total write off this for me.

Get through it without a total bumming and move on.
Haha and I thought defeatist was banned 😅😅.

I will leave pessimism to the red shite COYB .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 19, 2017, 01:11:01 AM
Be surprised if it not 3 at the back.

Pickford
Keane Williams Jagielka
Davies Schneiderlin Gana Baines
Rooney
DCL Sandro

Maybe Rooney up front and Sigurdsson in for Sandro? Depending on fitness

Serious? You do remember Koemas "3 at the back" against Chelsea last season at the bridge don't you?

These are probably the best attacking side in the league. I just hope koemans learned.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 19, 2017, 01:21:21 AM
Pickford

Martina Keane Williams Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Rooney Klaassen Mirallas

Sandro
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 19, 2017, 02:01:51 AM
Serious? You do remember Koemas "3 at the back" against Chelsea last season at the bridge don't you?

These are probably the best attacking side in the league. I just hope koemans learned.

We played it numerous times after, including smashing City 4-0 at Goodison
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 19, 2017, 02:04:05 AM
                  Pickford
Martina   Keane   Williams   Baines

             Gueye    Schneiderlin

Lookman                        Sigurdsson
                     Rooney
                     Sandro

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 19, 2017, 02:25:49 AM
                  Pickford
Martina   Keane   Williams   Baines

             Gueye    Schneiderlin

Lookman                        Sigurdsson
                     Rooney
                     Sandro


I would have Davies instead of Lookman
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on August 19, 2017, 02:49:22 AM
If we go 3 at the back we'll get are arses battered more than a Catholic choir on a Vatican weekend sleepover.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 19, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
Pickford
Martina* Keane Williams Baines

Davies Schneiderlin Gueye

Lookman Sandro+ Rooney

*bit worried. Like his attacking contribution but a total heart attack in defence and we're likely to be pegged back. Would be happy with Holgate too.

+if fit. If not, DCL CF.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Juanito on August 19, 2017, 04:35:25 AM
            Pickford
Holgate Jags Keane Baines

   Gana Schiederlin Davies

   Sandro  Rooney  Lookman

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on August 19, 2017, 04:59:14 AM
We have to target their weaknesses.  And their biggest weakness is John Stones IMO.  Unfortunately we haven't got a big old bastard to get stuck into him.  Will have to rely on Sandro being a pest and hoping Stones can't resist a stupid drag back as the last man.  Otherwise it's Williams or Keane out-muscling him at a set piece.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 19, 2017, 05:06:02 AM
Genuinely not all that worried about this game.

Wasn't really impressed with them against a shit Bournemouth side who gave them way too much time and respect.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 19, 2017, 05:06:58 AM
Genuinely not all that worried about this game.

Wasn't really impressed with them against a shit Bournemouth side who gave them way too much time and respect.
Bournemouth was last season tho and they have strengthened since
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 19, 2017, 09:26:02 AM
Pickford

Martina Keane Williams Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Rooney Klaassen Mirallas

Sandro
This would be my guess. Can't see Lookman or Sig starting, and I don't think he'll go back three. If Sandro isn't fit we may see DCL, but possibly Lookman on the right with Rooney up front.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 19, 2017, 01:30:47 PM
Genuinely not all that worried about this game.

Wasn't really impressed with them against a shit Bournemouth side who gave them way too much time and respect.

I think you mean Brighton which is who they played last weekend. City couldn't break them down for nearly 70 mins.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on August 19, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
I think Aguero is my favourite non-Everton striker.

Am hoping Sandro can be like him for us.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 19, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
I think you mean Brighton which is who they played last weekend. City couldn't break them down for nearly 70 mins.

Oops. Right you are lolol
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on August 20, 2017, 12:07:36 AM
Really hope we swerve 3 at the back completely, not just for this game. We don't have the CBs for it, none of them can use the extra man to our advantage and carry the ball into space without wasting possession.

Schneiderlin is the man to have the ball deep and make things tick.

Pickford
Martina Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Gueye Davies
Rooney Klassen
Sandro

They'll come at us and leave space, which hasn't happened so far this season.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 20, 2017, 03:08:21 AM
If we go 3 at the back we'll get are arses battered more than a Catholic choir on a Vatican weekend sleepover.

I was an altar boy for 13 years, had 9 different parish priests, and never once got interfered with. I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 20, 2017, 03:17:14 AM
I was an altar boy for 13 years, had 9 different parish priests, and never once got interfered with. I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted
Same
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on August 20, 2017, 12:11:59 PM
I took a few bummings.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 20, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
I was an altar boy for 13 years, had 9 different parish priests, and never once got interfered with. I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted
The wording makes it sound like you are disappointed !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 20, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
I was an altar boy for 13 years, had 9 different parish priests, and never once got interfered with. I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted

Haha, how many times have you managed to get that joke out. I think we could be close to double figures in 2017.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 20, 2017, 05:13:25 PM
Haha, how many times have you managed to get that joke out. I think we could be close to double figures in 2017.

Twice on here I think 😉
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: EVERTON 66 on August 20, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
Serious? You do remember Koemas "3 at the back" against Chelsea last season at the bridge don't you?

These are probably the best attacking side in the league. I just hope koemans learned.
I think koeman has learned he has bought in better players now the looks healthier than it ever has!!! I personally think we will go 4 at the back for this one n fully expect a good showing NSNO.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: EVERTON 66 on August 20, 2017, 05:24:14 PM
Pickford

Martina Keane Williams Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Rooney Klaassen Mirallas

Sandro
I feel jags will be back for this one. Don't know if sandro will be fit so toss up with Rooney or DCL up front. Mirallas is running out of time to show he has a future with sigurdsson waiting in the wings n onyekuru n bolassie to come in next season  .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 20, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
I feel jags will be back for this one. Don't know if sandro will be fit so toss up with Rooney or DCL up front. Mirallas is running out of time to show he has a future with sigurdsson waiting in the wings n onyekuru n bolassie to come in next season  .
Oh god ! Do you think he will still be here then?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
Pickford

Keane Jags Williams

Davies                     Baines
Gana Schneiderlin Klaassen

Rooney
DCL/Sandro
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MarcusFenix on August 21, 2017, 01:34:53 AM
Really don't get the Williams shouts, much rather have Keane and Jagielka.

Would also go with Gueye, Schneiderlin and Davies in a narrow 3 with Lookman and maybe Lennon as wide players, dropping into a 5 when City have the ball and using their pace to drag defenders wide and out of position when we have the ball
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Rhys on August 21, 2017, 02:10:44 AM
I like 3-4-3 as a system but you have to have the right players if you dont and it goes wrong it can be a nightmare whereas much more margin for error positionally in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3.

I think in an ideal world you need wide centre halves who are comfortable moving forward and can defend in wide areas and understand how to attack as a full back. The wing backs need to be able to defend to a decent level but more important to be able to attack as they provide most of the width for the system.

Baines should be good as a wing back but hardly ever played well there. His starting positions are too deep and he isnt someone who can attack when isolated because he cant dribble past defenders he needs people to work with. Coleman can do it but not around, I'd imagine Martina would play there if we do it at least he seems to have good energy for the role and willing to put a cross in.

But the wide centre halves as we saw against Stoke didnt work. Keane wasnt willing enough to move into the wide area or move into their half past the midfield. Jags is ok but likewise didnt look comfortable moving into the left back area. You might get away with it with one wide centre half not being comfortable or doing it but cant have neither as you literally end up with 3 narrow centre backs. Spurs when they play it have Dier and Verthongen as the wide centre backs and both can move forward and give additional options when attacking.

Tomorrow it could not be as big an issue from an attacking perspective because they will be mainly defending but I just feel we dont have the natural players for the system available so better off going 4 at the back. I prefer Jags still to williams, but williams is at his best when it is a tight defensive shape and he defends the box so from a tactical perspective it might be a game which suits his strengths rather than him being isolated and exposed for lack of mobility.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 21, 2017, 02:16:21 AM
I do agree with all that and I'd worry about Williams being isolated with the ball when we're trying to play out, so in a perfect world we'd have one deep block defender in the middle and two comfortable Cb's out wide I guess, but we don't have the personell.

But tomorrow's going to be more about soaking up their pressure and hitting balls into the channels than anything else I think.

Big problem with that is it takes away about 90% of Schneiderlin's game by bypassing the midfield. He becomes a tackler who shows for the ball under pressure.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 21, 2017, 02:22:56 AM
I took a few bummings.

You are a bit of a slut though
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on August 21, 2017, 02:25:34 AM
I hope Gana gets a good night's sleep tonight.  He'll need it.  Not the time to experiment with new pillows.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 21, 2017, 02:54:47 AM
Pickford
Martina  Keane  Jagielka  Baines
Schneiderlin
Gana       Davies
Klaassen
Sandro   Rooney
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on August 21, 2017, 03:04:32 AM
You are a bit of a slut though

As he told me, you can either cry like a baby or try make the most of the situation.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on August 21, 2017, 03:31:47 AM
Pickford

Keane  Williams  Jags

Martina                     Baines
Gana Schneiderlin
Klaassen
               Rooney
Sandro

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 21, 2017, 04:49:17 AM
Im gonna eat my words and say shneiderlin and gueye have to play rather than gueye and davies but all 3 can still play together but maybe later in the game so                                            PICKFORD

                                                           MARTINA    KEANE          WILLIAMS     BAINES

                                                                                  SHNEIDERLIN

                                                                          KLASSEN           GUEYE

                                                                                      ROONEY

                                                                                         DCL

Id probably change klassen for davies and dcl for siggs during the second half,,,i think sandro is still carrying a knock which is why i went for dcl............and im also gonna call it 0-1 to us
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blargins on August 21, 2017, 06:04:00 AM
Im gonna eat my words and say shneiderlin and gueye have to play rather than gueye and davies but all 3 can still play together but maybe later in the game so                                            PICKFORD

                                                           MARTINA    KEANE          WILLIAMS     BAINES

                                                                                  SHNEIDERLIN

                                                                          KLASSEN           GUEYE

                                                                                      ROONEY

                                                                                         DCL

Id probably change klassen for davies and dcl for siggs during the second half,,,i think sandro is still carrying a knock which is why i went for dcl............and im also gonna call it 0-1 to us

I'd rather we lines up with a full team, unless you're expecting someone to get sent off?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 21, 2017, 06:21:51 AM
Its just how confident i am........................... ..PICKFORD

                                                MARTINA  KEANE    WILLIAMS   BAINES

                                                                  SHNEIDERLIN

                                                              DAVIES   GUEYE

                                                                     KLASSEN

                                                                      ROONEY
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 21, 2017, 06:41:43 AM
Is it Monday night yet?

Hate these weekends having to wait.  :(

Now I have to work tomorrow as well, so no game for me.  :headbang:
Title: Man City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on August 21, 2017, 03:36:34 PM
Think we're going to need players with the energy to break forward after chasing the ball for so long, and a forward to hold up the ball. The fullbacks will be pinned by Walker/Danilo/Mandy so should be focused on defending.

I'd go:

Pickford

Holgate Keane Jags Baines

Gueye Schniederlin Davies

Mirallas   DCL   Rooney


Klassen off the bench when one of the midfield three tires and Lookman/Sandro as the front three tire.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on August 21, 2017, 03:43:33 PM
Think this will be very tight. One nil win either way.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on August 21, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
Changed my mind a bit and now I think we might lose fairly heavily, because our players are still learning to play together and a side like City is primed to exploit a disjointed team. I also think if that does happen some people will flip out a bit on here, declare the new players shit and have Koeman down as a fraud.

Hope I'm wrong about all of that. People should stay calm if we have a bad result at some point in the next few games.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 21, 2017, 04:04:49 PM
Changed my mind a bit and now I think we might lose fairly heavily, because our players are still learning to play together and a side like City is primed to exploit a disjointed team. I also think if that does happen some people will flip out a bit on here, declare the new players shit and have Koeman down as a fraud.

Hope I'm wrong about all of that. People should stay calm if we have a bad result at some point in the next few games.

I disagree with you in thinking we're going to lose heavily.

But if we do, it's no biggie.

Gotta expect the next couple of weeks to be a big struggle and hope we come out of it in a respectable position to kick on from
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 21, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
I have a feeling that this Pep bloke is a fraud and he'll be sacked off before the end of the season
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
Reckon the two Manchester clubs will be neck and neck all season with the four behind them all ripe for the catching if we can get through these next four games without four defeats. Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea lost already, the shite dropped two points. I like that fact we look solid at the back however if we lose tonight it's not the end of the world, for those reasons.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 21, 2017, 04:33:04 PM
Changed my mind a bit and now I think we might lose fairly heavily, because our players are still learning to play together and a side like City is primed to exploit a disjointed team. I also think if that does happen some people will flip out a bit on here, declare the new players shit and have Koeman down as a fraud.

Hope I'm wrong about all of that. People should stay calm if we have a bad result at some point in the next few games.

You on a come-down bruv?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on August 21, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
We could win this in the centre of the park tonight, That's where they're weakest, especially if they try playing Danilo there again.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on August 21, 2017, 04:39:33 PM
I think if we go with a 3 then Koeman would deserve a bit of stick because we just don't suit the formation . Likewise if he plays Martina or Davies out of position when Holgate has looked the more comfortable of the 3 . City are also bedding in new players so although they admittedly have more quality they did struggle to break down Brighton and in the end it was 2 keeper howlers . Accepting a defeat as if it is a given is not on . Happy to scrape a draw but we have the players to disrupt their play and take all 3 points . People handing Koeman excuses before every game is as annoying as jumping on him after it .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 21, 2017, 05:06:17 PM
One thing Koeman has done so far is rotate his attack. Just for injuries or deliberate?

DCL has both scored and assisted in moments that it counted towards the winning goal, I think he was 'rested' on Thursday with having him as an out-ball in mind today.

Then has he actually settled on who starts out of Jagielka or Williams yet, is he planning to rotate them as well?

Martina also played a lot of football already, perhaps in a tougher match like this Holgate will be in, either replacing Cuco or as RCB with Davies RWB.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 05:10:54 PM
I just hope we go with the same formation from Thursday. We looked comfortable with the shape and we have more quality down the spine than they do so this has to be an area to target.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on August 21, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
We could do with Sandro fit so he can come on in the second half along with Sigurdsson, draw all the fouls and let the Sigster (sorry @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19)) do his stuff !!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 21, 2017, 05:40:22 PM
Wont be a heavy defeat, will be a tight game i recon.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 21, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
Heavy loss :headbang:  come on chaps can we keep all the depressing chat in the prediction thread :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on August 21, 2017, 06:02:17 PM
Do we think Sigurdsson will make the bench then?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 21, 2017, 06:03:29 PM
Do we think Sigurdsson will make the bench then?

Koeman said Sigurdsson will be involved tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GLewis on August 21, 2017, 07:05:39 PM
Pleased to see Koeman mention we've been doing work on what we need to do when we have the ball.

We're solid but it's a long match if we just give the ball away all the time.

Whatever the formation (I'm not bothered about a back 3 here where we'll be defending quite a lot - it's worse when we need to dominate possession) we need to make sure they have some spells where they have to get back in their own half and bring players back.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on August 21, 2017, 07:27:12 PM
Pleased to see Koeman mention we've been doing work on what we need to do when we have the ball.

We're solid but it's a long match if we just give the ball away all the time.

Whatever the formation (I'm not bothered about a back 3 here where we'll be defending quite a lot - it's worse when we need to dominate possession) we need to make sure they have some spells where they have to get back in their own half and bring players back.

Good point, I think 3 at the back might stifle their full-backs bombing forward as much. It won't do fuck all else though lol.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 21, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
Just bang it over the top and let Sandro stretch them I think.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 21, 2017, 07:36:30 PM
Just bang it over the top and let Sandro stretch them I think.

Just get Pickford to be a wizard with playground-esque drop-kicks and let Sandro stretch them I think.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueNoseMike on August 21, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
We look more and more harder to beat and as far removed from a Martinez team as possible with every passing game. I fancy us to keep a lot of clean sheets just by being tight at the back and having midfielders that can defend and put a shift in (ie not Barkley, Del, etc, although Ross did improve last year).

Don't expect us to keep one tonight though, or win, or even get anything. But I'm less and less fearful of a mauling as kick off aproaches. If it was a 1 or 2 nil then I suppose we just accept it and move on. City are going to steam roll over a lot of teams this season. More optimistic about the Chelsea and Spurs games and reckon we can get 4 points from them games.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ross on August 21, 2017, 07:47:38 PM
Our last 10 league games away to City have seen us win 3, draw 3 and lose 4.

They're hardly our bogey team.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
We're probably at a better level of fitness than them and they have a few new players bedding in at the back. Let's not be too defeatist, if we go there and keep it tight we've got a decent chance of a result. They have a lot of ability but not too many leaders so we just need to get stuck into them and see how the match progresses.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on August 21, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
As much as we do not want to face them, especially at their ground and this early on; do you think they are happy to be playing us either?

We've had a head start in competitive fixtures, if we are ever gonna do 'em this season, it might as well be now.

Measure extra games played vs extra sharpness and Koeman has been rotating so far!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 21, 2017, 07:54:59 PM
positive mental attitude   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gary1878 on August 21, 2017, 08:03:18 PM
I really don't want to see us playing 3 at the back. We are far more comfortable playing a 4-5-1, and although we are good defensively with a 3-5-2 or wingbacks, our attacking threat has been poor every time we have lined up with this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 21, 2017, 08:34:30 PM
positive mental attitude   :thumbsup:

Thats what i like to hear ive just stuck 20 on 11/1 for us to win :woohoo:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 21, 2017, 08:47:21 PM
Thats what i like to hear ive just stuck 20 on 11/1 for us to win :woohoo:

decent odds for a 2 horse race. good luck.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 21, 2017, 09:04:51 PM
What's not to look forward to, unbeaten so far this season, mean defence and a club record signing. Great time to play them as well.

Looking forward to see what Sigurdsson can bring to the team if he gets on.

Sky said on the Spurs vs Chelsea game that chelsea scored 24 from set pieces last season, Swansea had 20 mainly to with our new man. We had 14 I believe, extra 6 to 10 goals can make a huge difference to us.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on August 21, 2017, 09:58:17 PM
We need Rooney and Co. to be drawing some fouls if Sigurdsson is on the field, as I feel that could be our only chance to get something.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 21, 2017, 10:44:34 PM
Our last 10 league games away to City have seen us win 3, draw 3 and lose 4.

They're hardly our bogey team.

That's probably double the amount of away points we've accumulated against any of the other top 5 teams.


Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on August 21, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
Any idea's for streams tonight? I've been striking out on all occasions at the moment.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 21, 2017, 11:46:23 PM
Going to be a Wolfsburg style win this, no possession but killing on the counter :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 21, 2017, 11:51:05 PM
A draw would be an excellent result here. City are a very strong side, particularly at home, they have the best squad and are favourites to win the league. Hopefully we can keep it tight and sting them on the counter as they commit men forward chasing a winner
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 21, 2017, 11:52:34 PM
Any idea's for streams tonight? I've been striking out on all occasions at the moment.

Usually pretty decent every week.

http://livestreaming24.net/watch/Manchester%20City-Everton
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 21, 2017, 11:56:22 PM
another option just in case

http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/manchester-city-vs-everton-live-streaming
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on August 22, 2017, 12:17:49 AM
Yes!  Got myself a last minute ticket. If any of you see a 40 year old bloke fighting the Etihad ultras in their family enclosure, that'll be me after one can of beer.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 12:29:57 AM
Yes!  Got myself a last minute ticket. If any of you see a 40 year old bloke fighting the Etihad ultras in their family enclosure, that'll be me after one can of beer.

Just so long as you say "darn" and "heck" :D
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/899679362672414721
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on August 22, 2017, 01:02:24 AM
What an abomination that is.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 01:02:49 AM
Don't like that side one bit
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
Very, very negative team that.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 01:04:23 AM
:(

https://twitter.com/SkySportsMNF/status/899693475867787264
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 01:04:31 AM
                    Pickford

Holgate Keane Jagielka Williams Baines

           Gana Schneiderlin Davies

             Calvert-Lewin Rooney

Uber defensive 5-3-2?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on August 22, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
What side?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on August 22, 2017, 01:05:40 AM
Damn that looks defensive.
Got to say I think we're getting beat here.
Mind you, keep it tight and we've some great options from the bench. One eye on Thursday I feel.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:06:44 AM
The smart people expected 3 at the back...

Think it's an okay team.

Morgs, Gana and Davies should win the midfield battle.

No pace though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 01:08:12 AM
Sandro not even on the bench :(
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:08:42 AM
Willing to be surprised otherwise but that side seems to asking to be pummelled all game.
Not sure how we get over the halfway line let alone get into the final third.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 22, 2017, 01:09:12 AM
Sandro not even on the bench :(

He still gotta sore heal but siggs is on the bench tho
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 01:09:45 AM
Willing to be surprised otherwise but that side seems to asking to be pummelled all game.
Not sure how we get over the halfway line let alone get into the final third.

the standard Koeman "launch it to the big man" approach
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: YellowHold on August 22, 2017, 01:10:04 AM
Bizarre team that, shoehorning in players where we can safely predict they'll look out of position, because they are. Offer very little on the break either.

No issue with that formation with the right players, but that 11 are not.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 01:10:50 AM
3 at the back again, we are gonna get fucked up here, hate this formation with a passion
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:12:25 AM
the standard Koeman "launch it to the big man" approach

The big man who isn't even very big. Or strong. If I was at the game I'd be ordering an extra pint to down quickly before taking my seat.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Robioto on August 22, 2017, 01:12:56 AM
Just sighed when I saw the line-up, so negative, will just invite them on to us. We will have to be amazing defensively as we won't get many chances to score...

We'll see though. I trust Koeman' s judgement.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
the standard Koeman "launch it to the big man" approach

do we have a big man?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Fynci on August 22, 2017, 01:14:35 AM
It's like a Walter Smith wet dream.

It's game over as soon as they score.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
do we have a big man?

DCL seems to be playing that role judging by most of the balls played out to him this season
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 01:16:05 AM
That team looks like it will have 20% possession and no pace, or penetration.

So, looking forward to a 2-0 win 👍🏼
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 01:16:16 AM
Very much a hope we snatch a goal and sit back and soak up the pressure. It might work but it's going to be dull as fuck to watch
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 01:17:26 AM
Very much a hope we snatch a goal and sit back and soak up the pressure. It might work but it's going to be dull as fuck to watch

welcome back Mr Moyes, we've been expecting you!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 01:17:28 AM
Any idea's for streams tonight? I've been striking out on all occasions at the moment.

Download acestream, (its like sopcast) get the match in 1080p

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if http/java is your thing. then click here. https://soccerstreams.net/streams/3727/england-manchester-city_vs_england-everton

over 50 links there.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on August 22, 2017, 01:17:32 AM
Really really disappointing that and a damage limitation attitude. No pace and presence up front, how can we even hit them on the break with that set up? I was feeling up beat until now.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:17:40 AM
It is a sobering realisation when you think we've spent 150m and still put out a side like that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 01:17:49 AM
DCL seems to be playing that role judging by most of the balls played out to him this season

someone said, I think it was @blargins (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54) that DCL is only 5 9? surely that can't be right?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 22, 2017, 01:17:56 AM
Very much a hope we snatch a goal and sit back and soak up the pressure. It might work but it's going to be dull as fuck to watch

Yay someone with a bit of faith :cheers:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:18:51 AM
3 at the back again, we are gonna get fucked up here, hate this formation with a passion


Even when it beat City 4-0 last season?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on August 22, 2017, 01:19:18 AM
What a fuckin horrendous team selection. Even with europa tie coming he could have done better....don't fuckin moan Ronald if we get battered.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 01:19:40 AM
Dreadful line up. If we're to get anything it depends on how good tom davies plays. Which should never be the case
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 01:19:52 AM
                    Pickford

Holgate Keane Jagielka Williams Baines

           Gana Schneiderlin Davies

             Calvert-Lewin Rooney

Uber defensive 5-3-2?


the only thing i like about this is, that Davies and DCL are in the starting 11.
and that DCL is up top not where holgate is..

 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:20:17 AM
Looking forward to seeing Pickford tonight, these are the matches we bought him for.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MIG on August 22, 2017, 01:20:31 AM
What's the bench?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 01:21:36 AM
What's the bench?

More expensive than the starting 11
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 01:21:40 AM
I don't think it's a terrible selection, it's pragmatic to the extreme. Yes it's the sort of thing Moyes used to do a lot but not with these players in this system so if it works then I don't really care how we get the result
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:21:40 AM
What's the bench?

Haven't looked but the way people are moaning about the team then probably Wright, Neville, Pistone, Nyarko, Madar, Angell and Anderson Da Silva
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 01:21:55 AM
aim to frustrate, get the crowd restless, do em late on when pep loses the rag and throws stones and kompany up front
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 01:22:36 AM
Even when it beat City 4-0 last season?

did we play 3 at the back in that game? i cant remember but in my head i thought we played 433
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 22, 2017, 01:23:35 AM
someone said, I think it was @blargins (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54) that DCL is only 5 9? surely that can't be right?

think its an ongoing joke,

taller than Holgate though ain't he 

dc-l 6'2"

if we are to get any thing tonight Pickford will be MOTM
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:23:44 AM
did we play 3 at the back in that game? i cant remember but in my head i thought we played 433

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/everton-fc_manchester-city/index/spielbericht/2698302
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 01:24:51 AM
Subs:

Mirallas
Cuco Martina
Sigurdsson
Klaassen
Besic
Stekelenburg
Lookman
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 01:25:01 AM
What's the bench?

It's where the subs sit. Strictly speaking it's not a bench anymore (not in the Premier League anyway) usually a set of really nice, comfortable Recaro seats similar to those in a prestige or race car.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on August 22, 2017, 01:25:03 AM
Pre season 5 at back has been wank and it's hardly likely to fair well against city. Dcl might show a bit of promise but city players will have him in their pockets tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:25:54 AM
If we can keep it tight for 70 minutes we might see Sig and Mirallas/Lookman to maybe have a go at snatching one. Or not.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 01:26:37 AM
The fume on here is already setting this up for a brilliant win and an even better read back of the early pages of the thread, ;)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 01:26:43 AM
nbc acestream link acestream://e7968fe55b27a9b308aa2273271f73c8fe3e5593
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/everton-fc_manchester-city/index/spielbericht/2698302


i stand corrected then, still hate the formation tho, pretty sure we played this against chelsea and liverpool etc and didnt fair to well in those matches
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:28:12 AM

i stand corrected then, still hate the formation tho, pretty sure we played this against chelsea and liverpool etc and didnt fair to well in those matches

To be fair we could play 7-7-5 at Anfield and still lose.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 01:28:16 AM
The fume on here is already setting this up for a brilliant win and an even better read back of the early pages of the thread, ;)

Hope so, some whoppers posting shite as usual.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 01:28:55 AM
Interesting to see how this tactical googly pans out. Tinkerman MK2
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 01:29:15 AM
It's not Lincoln City we're playing here lads, kin hell
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on August 22, 2017, 01:30:06 AM
Obviously we're never going to win tonight. Snap your hand off for a draw I think.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Stumpy on August 22, 2017, 01:30:29 AM
Has,Koeman's lost his mind?that team is garbage,no pace,no width and no hope of scoring,it's going to be a long night.Looks more like a surrender note than a team sheet.Hpe I have to eat my words,but fearing a hammering.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: april on August 22, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
That City team, on paper, looks incredible. However, we beat the fuckers 4-0 last time out and Tom Davies was more incredible. No coincidence he starts tonight. COYB!!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on August 22, 2017, 01:31:50 AM
The more I think about it the more I think Koeman may be right with this.....
I'm usually wrong about most things though
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
its just like watching moyes!  i dont mind tho, love solid defensive performances, especially if we can sneak a few goals..
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 01:32:00 AM
Koeman taking a pen knife to a gun fight here. Lets hope we don't get humped like Chelsea away last season.

DCL is decent young striker with plenty of potential but he shouldn't be starting these matches. We shouldn't be in a position where we still haven't brought in an experienced striker.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:33:05 AM
Set pieces will be key tonight you think. Need to make any we get count.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 01:33:16 AM
That City team, on paper, looks incredible. However, we beat the fuckers 4-0 last time out and Tom Davies was more incredible. No coincidence he starts tonight. COYB!!!!

Hi Gorgeous, asl like?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
Gana will rack up about 15 tackles tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 01:34:40 AM
One of them bench players should be starting. Such a slow narrow team
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
I genuinely have no idea how we are gonna attack with a line up like that.

Could have at least put Klaassen in there.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 01:37:12 AM
Fuck this thread you boys are dragging me down. COYB
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 01:37:24 AM
I wonder if Koeman's rotating a few players since we have Split away and Chelsea coming up in the next week.

But yeah this 3 at the back thing, sometimes it works quite well, other times it is just shit.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
To be fair this is the start of three big, tough away games in a week, with this one we expect the least out of.
Playing for, and getting, a point would be an awesome result.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 01:39:20 AM
Don't think he had many attractive options tonight considering our situation.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 01:39:38 AM
To be fair this is the start of three big, tough away games in a week, with this one we expect the least out of.
Playing for, and getting, a point would be an awesome result.

I see youe point. But you dont rest all your creativity/pace at the same time. Needs to be staggered. Plus split is the one we can afford to rest a couple
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 01:39:45 AM
Lewin, Rooney and Davies are all capable of a goal people. It's a defensive lineup but it's not outrageous to think we might score. There's options on the bench if it goes awry and we at least know Koeman isn't scared to change things when it's not working
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 01:39:51 AM
Hi Gorgeous, asl like?
Wrong website!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 01:41:29 AM
playing to hold on until we can hopefully get Sigurdsson a late free kick (is my guess).  Or we give up an early goal, and end up just playing for Thursday.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 01:41:38 AM
Fuck this thread you boys are dragging me down. COYB

think i agree, see you happy folk in an hour and 5.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:44:34 AM
I see youe point. But you dont rest all your creativity/pace at the same time. Needs to be staggered. Plus split is the one we can afford to rest a couple

You don't go toe to toe against the most expensive and talented side in the league. We need to keep it tight for as long as possible. It's not like we've dropped Messi and Suarez to the bench. We're not blessed with top drawer quality up top anyway.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 01:47:15 AM
Rooney needs to lead us through this one when we get on the ball.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 01:47:23 AM
I see youe point. But you dont rest all your creativity/pace at the same time. Needs to be staggered. Plus split is the one we can afford to rest a couple

However Split is the one we can least afford a shocking performance in though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on August 22, 2017, 01:47:42 AM
Wrong website!!
Aye
Dating threads that way ⬇️
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on August 22, 2017, 01:48:06 AM
However Split is the one we can least afford to lose though.
My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 01:48:18 AM
Pressurise stones and annoy otamendi and we can get a good win here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 01:48:28 AM
Nine British players in the starting line up.

I like that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on August 22, 2017, 01:48:29 AM
That 1st half against Stoke we were very solid. Didn't offer anything else either but we looked pretty impenetrable at the back.

We have Rooney who is capable of some magic to win us this one.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 01:49:08 AM
You don't go toe to toe against the most expensive and talented side in the league. We need to keep it tight for as long as possible. It's not like we've dropped Messi and Suarez to the bench. We're not blessed with top drawer quality up top anyway.

Yeah, our bench isn't all that either.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on August 22, 2017, 01:49:32 AM
You don't go toe to toe against the most expensive and talented side in the league. We need to keep it tight for as long as possible. It's not like we've dropped Messi and Suarez to the bench. We're not blessed with top drawer quality up top anyway.
Not unless your the second, third or fourth most expensive and talented side in the league anyhow. And we're just not there yet.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 01:50:00 AM
That 1st half against Stoke we were very solid. Didn't offer anything else either but we looked pretty impenetrable at the back.

We have Rooney who is capable of some magic to win us this one.

Hmm...it was Stoke tho.

Stoke who have like a 40 year old Peter Crouch as their plan B.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 01:50:22 AM
That 1st half against Stoke we were very solid. Didn't offer anything else either but we looked pretty impenetrable at the back.

We have Rooney who is capable of some magic to win us this one.

Via overhead kick
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on August 22, 2017, 01:51:07 AM
Hmm...it was Stoke tho.

Stoke who have like a 40 year old Peter Crouch as their plan B.

True But Stoke did just beat Arsenal. We scored against them with 5 at the back. When we went to 4 at the back we were quite open and their attackers had far more space and opened us up quite easily.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 01:52:07 AM
Carragher wondering if we can get in behind and penetrate. Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 01:53:40 AM
Carragher wondering if we can get in behind and penetrate. Let's hope so.

@TheTone (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4357) has been wondering that all week
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
However Split is the one we can least afford a shocking performance in though.

agreed.  We really just need to avoid getting bummed today, and Koeman seems to get that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 01:55:17 AM
You don't go toe to toe against the most expensive and talented side in the league. We need to keep it tight for as long as possible. It's not like we've dropped Messi and Suarez to the bench. We're not blessed with top drawer quality up top anyway.

Whilst using a boxing analogy. You can bob, weave, duck, run, defend all you want. If you dont throw nothing back. You're not going to win
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 01:55:51 AM
Yeah, our bench isn't all that either.

Hush your mouth.  Besic and Lookman!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
Love how you get more and more optimistic closer to kick off

7-0 to Everton
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on August 22, 2017, 01:57:43 AM
Streams?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 01:58:26 AM
I like that blue fire they had when the teams were coming out.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 01:58:35 AM
Come on lads, lets DICK them.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 01:59:18 AM
Being played in the smog
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on August 22, 2017, 02:00:36 AM
Being played in the smog

Is that why there are no streams?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:00:40 AM
Yeah the weather is mad here tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:00:57 AM
What the fuck is with the smoke?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:01:00 AM
I think Davies and Gana will have to really help out Baines and Holgate, but then that could leave us outnumbered in midfield.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:01:39 AM
I thought there were Croatians shooting off flares again.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 02:02:05 AM
Well, I don't like the look of this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:02:32 AM
Yeah the weather is mad here tonight.

was from pyrotechnics before the match
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:02:48 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170821/8fda9bb56931f736fe605c92632e579b.jpg)

Cant see fuck all on the tactical cam.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:03:13 AM
Pea souper. 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:03:46 AM
was from pyrotechnics before the match

Its like that outside too hahahahha just cycled home in it!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:04:01 AM
Effort lad
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 02:04:25 AM
must be foggy also?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
Call the game off. A point each.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:04:49 AM
Its like that outside too hahahahha just cycled home in it!

where do u live, not like that in crosby
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 22, 2017, 02:04:57 AM
No Sandro?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:05:40 AM
Williams poor there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
Out ball to DCL is all we've got here. Gonna be a loooong night.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:06:18 AM
where do u live, not like that in crosby

Manchester
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:06:38 AM
No Sandro?
https://twitter.com/sandroramirez9/status/899708937347510274
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:07:16 AM
FFS Morgan.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:07:28 AM
Stupid tackle that
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:07:39 AM
Idiot
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:07:41 AM
Quite the minimalist, our Sandro!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:08:09 AM
"They liked my team talk!"

- Mo Besic
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:09:01 AM
https://twitter.com/sandroramirez9/status/899708937347510274

Dang. What's wrong with him?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:10:44 AM
Dang. What's wrong with him?

stood on a lego
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on August 22, 2017, 02:10:53 AM
Morgan again ffs... nothing challenge either.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:11:00 AM
Going to shit when we have to pass the ball
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: farnhamtoffee on August 22, 2017, 02:12:00 AM
Any streams ?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:12:54 AM
Risky stuff from Pickford
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:12:55 AM
Need to do better keeping the ball when up the pitch. Wont happen much so need to make it count.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:13:05 AM
Any streams ?

http://www.streamsarena.eu/events/20170821/manchester-city-vs-everton-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: farnhamtoffee on August 22, 2017, 02:13:41 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: gizzblue on August 22, 2017, 02:14:23 AM
Koeman negatively sets teams out to get fucked again! !! ....the three doesn't work ffs.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:14:45 AM
Bit better... coyb !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:14:55 AM
williams is so bad
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:16:19 AM
DCL rising to the challenge
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:16:35 AM
There is some space for a ball to DCL over the top.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:16:49 AM
dcl did well there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:17:19 AM
https://twitter.com/sandroramirez9/status/899708937347510274

I thought that was Scarface's table at first glance 😳👃🏼
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:17:20 AM
I love DCL. Very raw but there is something there I'm sure of it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 02:17:23 AM
Pickford having more passes than Schneiderlin should tell you everything you need to know about this evenings action.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on August 22, 2017, 02:17:35 AM
Ay......

DCL

We could be on to something with this lad.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:17:45 AM
williams is so bad

He sure as shit can't play in a back 3.  I'd rather shift Holgate back to his better RCB position, and use Davies or Lennon at RWB.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:18:20 AM
He's pure Zlatan.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:18:37 AM
Class little move
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:19:00 AM
Not good to watch this but may be effective.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:19:15 AM
Camera shot of 80 million on the bench. Klaassen Gylfi and Lookman. Strange times.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:19:41 AM
Sandro, DCL, Lookman, and the Onyekuru we've yet to see excite me enough that I don't mind at all to buy a striker with minimal residual value.  Just get the best player we can for the next 2 seasons or so.  The future looks incredibly bright.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:20:28 AM
DCL has done well these first 20 or so mins to be as involved as he has.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:21:12 AM
Holgate was a good choice against City.  He's not afraid to be physical, despite his small stature.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:21:20 AM
Zero control ... miss Barry.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 02:21:22 AM
DCL playing the role of big lump of a striker pretty well so far!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: oscar on August 22, 2017, 02:22:25 AM
Williams has been much better this season like him in a 4 with Keane
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:23:49 AM
Rooney cant get a kick.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 02:24:09 AM
Dont have any penetrating players.

Rooney had fuck all on there.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:24:26 AM
Come on Tom
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 02:24:36 AM
Holgate doing well here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:24:39 AM
That's a foul that yano
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:24:55 AM
Ref's having a good game
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:25:04 AM
davis did boss there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:25:09 AM
That's shit by the ref.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:25:24 AM
Otamendi blocked him off.  How was that a dive?!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:26:17 AM
Crazy booking.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hill135 on August 22, 2017, 02:26:18 AM
Very rigid man marking. Gueye following silva and morgs on de bruyne, cbs stepping right out to follow the strikers.

Old fashioned but working well so far
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:26:28 AM
Zero control ... miss Barry.

Loved Barry with all my heart, but he would've got sent-off tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 02:27:24 AM
Zero control ... miss Barry.

Nothing to do with that in this game unfortunately, although we will miss him this year.

We aren't trying to take control of the ball. Probably because if we do, they will press us into traps and de bruyne, silva, sane, aguero, Jesus will just burn through us.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 02:27:36 AM
ace defending there by Dajelka
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:27:43 AM
Williams turning his back like one of my under 10's.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 02:28:19 AM
I think it's going to be awhile before officials find the right balance on those decisions.

It's perfectly reasonable to give nothing when the player goes down under slight contact but right now, everything has to be a foul or a yellow card.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:29:08 AM
Better pasage of play.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:29:25 AM
Jags standing up to Aguero nicely.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:30:00 AM
Anyone else really liking this?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 02:30:06 AM
DCL playing the role of big lump of a striker pretty well so far!
You can see why we haven't just gone out and bought someone for the sake of it. You'd pay 30m for a 10-goals-a-season striker in this market. Confident DCL would get those numbers if he played centrally. Obviously he's not the answer as a starter but he's shown he's got a lot to offer the squad.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:30:12 AM
DCL is my hero
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 02:30:19 AM
Super composure from jags!

You can bet I'd have headed that straight into my own net
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 02:30:26 AM
Better pasage of play.

And we nearly got our pants pulled down on the break.

It's a difficult situation. I'm willing us to keep hold of the ball but I think if we do we may well give away a goal.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:30:47 AM
FFS.. What a waste.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:31:17 AM
Playing well.

Can't wait for Sig to take over set pieces though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:31:26 AM
Rooney's free kicks make me wonder what Sigurdsson's free kicks are like.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:31:33 AM
DCL playing the role of big lump of a striker pretty well so far!
Northern Powerhouse.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:31:37 AM
i thought rooney was ment to be good at free kicks
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:32:02 AM
Rooney is slowing us down a lot. To calm on the ball. More urgency needed
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 02:32:30 AM
And we nearly got our pants pulled down on the break.

It's a difficult situation. I'm willing us to keep hold of the ball but I think if we do we may well give away a goal.
It's the eternal dilemma; you'd fancy us to get score against this City defence - IF we had better attacking options on the pitch but then they'd probably dick us by finding the space.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SpankRock on August 22, 2017, 02:32:32 AM
Christ these City fans can bore off with their sarcastic cheers and Rooney booing.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 02:32:44 AM
Anyone else really liking this?

I am actually

We're giving them a game

So far......
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:32:47 AM
Rooney is slowing us down a lot. To calm on the ball. More urgency needed

You reckon?

Think he's playing a pivotal part at keeping us up the pitch in possession.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: chang on August 22, 2017, 02:32:57 AM
BBC -  :eh:

Quote
YELLOW CARD
Man City 0-0 Everton
Posted at
25 mins
Tom Davies goes down under a challenge from Nicolas Otamendi around 25 yards out. It is a foul from the City defender, tripping over the Everton man.

Referee Robert madley blows his whistle to award a free-kick...

...TO CITY!

And to make matters worse, Madley gives Davies a yellow card for diving.

A shocking decision by the referee.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:32:58 AM
Class from Jags
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 02:33:01 AM
This is hard watching...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:33:06 AM
Don't know how Jags won that tackle haha
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:33:29 AM
Anyone else really liking this?

It's brave as fuck.  Jags has balls the size of church bells.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:33:36 AM
Wow. Well done Jagielka.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 02:34:22 AM
Brilliant tackle.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:34:26 AM
Sense of inevitability here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:34:30 AM
They're coming
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:34:32 AM
You reckon?

Think he's playing a pivotal part at keeping us up the pitch in possession.

His retention has been great. But he needs to try bringing DCL into play abit more I think
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 02:34:40 AM
You reckon?

Think he's playing a pivotal part at keeping us up the pitch in possession.

Same here

Think he's looked good to be honest
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:34:46 AM
i thought rooney was ment to be good at free kicks

Was.  Like Bainsey.  Fortunately, both are still damned good at lots of other stuff!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:34:51 AM
Hard to watch this... its coming.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 02:34:55 AM
If our strategy is to stay solid and sneak a goal (or just settle for a draw), we can't keep giving them breaks like that.

They aren't going to mess those chances up all night.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:35:13 AM
Get the fuck in
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
Rooooooneyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
How the fucccckkkkk 😁😁💦💦💦
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Mr. Devil on August 22, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
Get the fuck in. Roooooneeeeyyyyy
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 02:35:30 AM
Oh I say!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:35:33 AM
IT WAS COMING INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 02:35:36 AM
The fuck in!!!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on August 22, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
Rooney
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 02:35:44 AM
kinell, walked straight through us. i love wood :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:35:46 AM
WOWOWOOWOWOW!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 22, 2017, 02:35:52 AM
HAHAget the fuck in
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:35:55 AM
rooneyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:35:55 AM
FUCKIN YESSS
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:35:55 AM
Stones even pitched in LMAO!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on August 22, 2017, 02:35:56 AM
Rooooooooney!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 02:36:09 AM
Got a tenner on us winning at 10/1...too right I'm gonna cash out lol
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SpankRock on August 22, 2017, 02:36:09 AM
FUCK YEH, GREAT GOAL!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 02:36:10 AM
Wow, just wow! Calvert Lewin and Rooney seem to work very well together!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:36:14 AM
Best three players on the pitch involved there 🙌🏼
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 02:36:16 AM
ROOOOONNNEEEYYYY!!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 02:36:18 AM
Now thats got me all erect
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:36:21 AM
Ye of little faith
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 02:36:29 AM
Roooooooooo ey !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 02:36:30 AM
Was just gonna say that DCL leads the line well but we're never gonna score playing like this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:36:34 AM
Sooooo smart by Rooney AND Holgate.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:36:42 AM
Holy fucking shit.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 02:36:55 AM
Haha Get in Wazza
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:36:58 AM
DCL laaaa.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:36:59 AM
This happened the other week  hahaa. As soon as I piped up about Baines he scored now Rooney. Who do you fancy next fellas?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on August 22, 2017, 02:37:11 AM
What will Rooney bring?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:37:27 AM
DCL having a stormer. Giroud who?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:37:31 AM
Ref is a massive cunt
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:37:55 AM
Game plan working. Very like last sesson here.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:37:58 AM
What will Rooney bring?

He finds the cracks and picks his spots, doesn't he?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 02:38:11 AM
Oh pray God let's get to half time !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:38:29 AM
This happened the other week  hahaa. As soon as I piped up about Baines he scored now Rooney. Who do you fancy next fellas?

Ah shit, have you taken on my mantle as the reverse-curse master?

Fuck  :hmph:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:38:46 AM
DCL is mustard
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 02:39:06 AM
Two assists by DCL for two goals for Wayne
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:39:07 AM
Settle in Pickford...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 02:40:26 AM
Another 7 and we'll go top.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:40:39 AM
Tactically this has been absolutely spot on from Koeman.

He spotted something in DCL that we're all starting to see now.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:40:41 AM
Book him for diving, then!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:40:56 AM
Koeman smiles like a serial killer..
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:41:00 AM
We've got a history of conceding dodgy penalties at the Ethiad, could see another coming tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 02:41:06 AM
This is just what you want from an away performance, rode our luck but took our chance and defended really well. Lewin is playing like a real target man tonight not in terms of headers but just being an option and holding the ball. Staking a real claim for a regular place
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:41:12 AM
Ah shit, have you taken on my mantle as the reverse-curse master?

Fuck  :hmph:

Aye. I obviously know feck all about footy but at least we're winning  :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 02:41:40 AM
Well I can't believe this

Was worried about Rooney after the first couple of games

Not anymore, looks absolute class
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: chang on August 22, 2017, 02:41:49 AM
200 EPL goals for Rooney .... 60 behind Shearer.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sixymack on August 22, 2017, 02:42:27 AM
why didnt jesus get booked for diving WANKER
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:42:49 AM
Class by Baines!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:43:21 AM
You'd have to say, this should turn into a match that is always featured for TV.  Exceptionally compelling, tactically.

What a play there by Baines!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 02:43:24 AM
city arguing now...good news.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:44:01 AM
baines the saviour there pickford fucked up
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:44:03 AM
Eeesh, Pickford. Seems to have one of those in his game amongst the good distribution.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:44:04 AM
200 EPL goals for Rooney .... 60 behind Shearer.

He'll break Dixie's record this year and nab both records
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:44:09 AM
Get in
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 02:44:11 AM
Hahahaha fuck of walker you bellend
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 02:44:28 AM
And whilst on the subject of me saying Baines doesn't have the heart for it anymore....

This has been the best half I've seen him play in years. Fantastic from him. He's really helping the centre backs out a lot
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 22, 2017, 02:44:37 AM
Haha! Kyle Walker sent off.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on August 22, 2017, 02:44:42 AM
Could this be our evening?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:44:43 AM
Red card... bit mad that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 02:44:53 AM
Fuck off Walker ya cunt!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 02:44:55 AM
nice red :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:45:01 AM
get off u horrid cunt
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
Walker off...wow.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 02:45:06 AM
Walker walks.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:45:08 AM
Very, very harsh.

Poor refereeing.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:45:08 AM
Superb from Calvert Lewin that
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 02:45:09 AM
Get in.

Christ that was poor refereeing.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:45:23 AM
YES THE CUNT
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:45:49 AM
Hmm. That seemed a bit harsh.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:45:58 AM
Koeman is Pep's bogey side.  :D
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:46:19 AM
Carragher will be gunning for Calvert-Lewin now
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 02:46:38 AM
Schneiderlin needs to be careful now.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 02:46:51 AM
We've always been able to upset these haven't we
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:46:56 AM
we don't usually get them
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 02:47:04 AM
City have been dirty on DCL all half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 02:47:08 AM
Deserved a second yellow just for being Kyle Walker. Mouthy little gobshite
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 02:47:10 AM
It was the correct decision, regardless of DCL's reaction it was a clear tactical foul, the ball was nowhere near.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:47:18 AM
This new snide Everton is fucking superb.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 02:47:27 AM
Get Davies and schneiderlin off because he'll even this up this ref
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:47:35 AM
Haha. Glad it happened to that bellend.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 02:48:00 AM
 That is very harsh!!

Could this be our night???
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on August 22, 2017, 02:48:11 AM
Well I don't think anybody expected this..
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 02:48:20 AM
streams area bailed out now
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 02:48:26 AM
These are gonna be rolling round like a bunch of lunatics until it's 10 v 10.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:48:27 AM
Amazing half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 02:48:29 AM
This ref will be under big pressure to even this up now, especially with Schneiderlin and Davies already booked, and Gana sure to follow.

Superb play tonight, though, from DCL, Holgate, Rooney, Jagielka, Baines, and Gana.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Chrisknms on August 22, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
brilliant half. DCL Outstanding
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:48:37 AM
Idrissa Gueye is fucking great
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 02:48:56 AM
Bainesy fucking sublime
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Fynci on August 22, 2017, 02:49:06 AM
Get Davies and schneiderlin off because he'll even this up this ref

Nailed on. Another reason why Barry went too soon.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:49:31 AM
Get Davies and schneiderlin off because he'll even this up this ref

We actually CAN now.  Klaassen and Sigurdsson on the bench.  Pretty aggressive midfield trying to protect a lead, but maybe what we need to do.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueski on August 22, 2017, 02:49:38 AM
This ref will be under big pressure to even this up now, especially with Schneiderlin and Davies already booked, and Gana sure to follow.

Superb play tonight, though, from DCL, Holgate, Rooney, and Jagielka.
yes early sub on order for davies I'd think and Schneiderlin and Gana will have to be very careful
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 02:49:39 AM
Not harsh at all. Stupid cunt has raised his elbow to the face with the ball nowhere near him. Stupid fucking thing to do - see you later shitkicker.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 02:49:41 AM
Some massive performances out there

Jags, Holgate, DCL and of course Rooney.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on August 22, 2017, 02:50:01 AM
Get in.

Christ that was poor refereeing.

As harsh as a ball crossing the line that leads to a goal... karma's a bitch  mate.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
We've got a history of conceding dodgy penalties at the Ethiad, could see another coming tonight.

Once the ref sees the second yellow for Walker he might feel obliged to give them one, we should bare that in mind in the box !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
Maybe Klaassen on for Davies?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 02:50:18 AM
Quite simply sensational stuff so far

A win would be amazing here, I am already hating myself for believing that we might do it

Get Schneiderlin off though before he gets sent off. This ref will try and even if up

Calvert Lewin is getting better all the time. Fantastic assist, full of running and he's becoming more of a man every week

Shout out to holgate and Jags who have done well

But Leighton Baines has been fucking sensational in my opinion

Best left back we've ever had imo
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:50:25 AM
This ref will be under big pressure to even this up now, especially with Schneiderlin and Davies already booked, and Gana sure to follow.

Superb play tonight, though, from DCL, Holgate, Rooney, and Jagielka.

Every once of those a 9, especially Jags.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueski on August 22, 2017, 02:50:25 AM
Yes Jags massive
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:50:26 AM
I fucking love Everton you know. What a class half of solid performers.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 02:50:49 AM
We can bring on Klaassen and Besic/Sig for Davies and Schneiderlin, these cunts will be doing all they can to get them sent off.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: chang on August 22, 2017, 02:50:51 AM
Two good halves pretty please ......
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:50:58 AM
Some massive performances out there

Jags, Holgate, DCL and of course Rooney.

Baines & Gueye too
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2017, 02:51:01 AM
jags and dcl have been fucking awesome, thats why i want dcl (and the other youth players to play, lookman and dowell!)
they bring so much energy to the team, energy that  we need, playing this sort of formation.

hopefully get schneiderlin off at half time for lookman, with davies dropping back..

i had a feeling we where going to win this, especially with the moyes type team lol,. got the first goal scorer right, keane and ademola to follow!!

glad walker got sent off, it wasnt worthy of a sending off, but, i want that 3 goals for us!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 02:51:03 AM
Baines, Jags, Holgate and Lewin have all been superb. Been a bit disappointed with Keane today but he's not been terrible just a bit slack with the ball.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
These are gonna be rolling round like a bunch of lunatics until it's 10 v 10.

They'll get it too. Schneiderlin.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
Some great performances. It is there for the lads to take this. Could really put a marker down for the season. DCL has lead the line superbly his little dummy then cross to set up Rooney was superb. Love him to smash one in.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 02:51:41 AM
Keep it like this, bring on Lookman with 15 to go and kill them on a counter.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ross on August 22, 2017, 02:51:47 AM
The midfield need to be careful the ref doesn't try and even this up now. City will be pressuring him at every tackle.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 02:51:53 AM
Ref will even this up, I have no doubt

Been a good half tho, dcl been excellent

Davies seems to be a marked man with this diving tho, which is worrying
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 02:51:54 AM
Expect a red for one of ours in the 2nd half, ref will even it up as soon as poss
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 02:52:00 AM
If DCL was our new 30m signing we'd be shouting what a bargain we'd got after that.  Gareth Southgate is sat in the stands loving this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 02:52:06 AM
Quite simply sensational stuff so far

A win would be amazing here, I am already hating myself for believing that we might do it

Get Schneiderlin off though before he gets sent off. This ref will try and even if up

Calvert Lewin is getting better all the time. Fantastic assist, full of running and he's becoming more of a man every week

Shout out to holgate and Jags who have done well

But Leighton Baines has been fucking sensational in my opinion

Best left back we've ever had imo

Agree get Shneids off for that exact reason, let's see what the ice man can do !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: bogie on August 22, 2017, 02:52:07 AM
just under 50 to cash out now hmm what to do
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:52:24 AM
Take Schneiderlin off please Ron
Wasn't a red card but who's arsed?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 02:52:58 AM
Sub Schneiderlin and Davies second half and this game should be ours
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:53:08 AM
just under 50 to cash out now hmm what to do

Ride it out
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 02:53:34 AM
just impossible to score against Everton these days
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:53:39 AM
streams area bailed out now
still sound.
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/manchester-city-vs-everton-live-streaming
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:53:43 AM
DCL can't quite go 90 yet, suspect Lookman for him late.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 02:53:56 AM
Baines, Jags, Holgate and Lewin have all been superb. Been a bit disappointed with Keane today but he's not been terrible just a bit slack with the ball.



It's Calvert-Lewin, David!

We have to thank both Frank Calvert and Brenda Lewin for the beautiful gift they've given us!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 02:54:25 AM
the fuck did that bird come from, I was trying to upload her ages ago in the dating thread  lolol
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 02:54:32 AM
wasnt expecting us to be in the game at all, we are usually defensivly poor and no threat going forward with this formation, DCL has done brilliant as a target to get the ball forward tho
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 02:54:48 AM
Hmm...looked at that again. It's at best a bit dumb from Walker, maybe not a yellow but it was dumb given he just got booked. There was definitely a movement to DCL when he got near him even without an elbow being used.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 02:54:51 AM
Some proper heroic defending from us, if it was another team, Man City would be at least 2 goals up.

45 fucking minutes to go though, can we exploit having an extra man on the pitch? Of course I'm worried that the ref will try and even things after the Walker sending off so Schneiderlin has to be very careful.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 02:54:59 AM
Only a 62/38 possession deficit.  Very respectable.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 02:55:28 AM
Calvert-Lewin has absolutely blown me away. Incredibly mature performance so far, I bet English centre forward coaches are drying their eyes up and down the country at the sight of him running channels and bringing it down.

I do still think it's a matter of time to be absolutely fair but you know what, they do not like it up 'em.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 02:55:48 AM
DCL is impressing every time he's up top. Let's stop playing him out wide from now on.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 02:56:32 AM
It's Calvert-Lewin, David!

We have to thank both Frank Calvert and Brenda Lewin for the beautiful gift they've given us!

Ha apologies Stephen! Dominic's mum and dad have my sincere gratitude.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: chang on August 22, 2017, 02:56:54 AM
just under 50 to cash out now hmm what to do

Take it out and lump it on 0 - 3 ?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 02:57:07 AM
Love seeing Prince Guardiola and his superior philosophy get beat... Especially when we beat him lolol
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 22, 2017, 02:57:29 AM
A long way to go yet .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Realist on August 22, 2017, 02:57:48 AM
Calvert-Lewin has absolutely blown me away. Incredibly mature performance so far, I bet English centre forward coaches are drying their eyes up and down the country at the sight of him running channels and bringing it down.

I do still think it's a matter of time to be absolutely fair but you know what, they do not like it up 'em.

He's been fantastic, his awareness is terrific for his age, great composure too
I don't think we'll concede here, we should be able to create a lot aswell as these are gonna push on to try and score
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 02:58:02 AM
Happy to welcome the new members to the Calvert-Lewin fan club. The lad's gonna be great.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 02:58:06 AM
careful with the sun cream. rain is never far away :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 02:58:26 AM
Luckily we have a 45m player on the bench who is great with the ball at his feet and won't panic in possession. Just the night for him this, he'll hold onto it and play sensibly. If we can get him on while we're 11 v 10.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 02:58:35 AM
DCL  found the pie shop he needed.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 02:59:22 AM
My nerves are fucked ere
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 02:59:34 AM
Take it out and lump it on 0 - 3 ?

lay a fiver off each  on a draw or city win, can't lose
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 02:59:43 AM
And now for our customary shit half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 02:59:50 AM
The mutant wallpushers on RAWK are fewin! Always good for a giggle dropping in there from time-to-time :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 03:00:26 AM
I hope DCL's detractors are starting to see what Koeman does :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 03:00:30 AM
Brilliant half that, I moaned about the team admittedly but what it does show is Koeman, at least tactically tries things based on the opponents, he has got it spot on.

Fine margins, they hit the post, we go down the other end and score, wasn't a sending off in my opinion either but he gave a look and he is a cunt so who cares.

I always worry more about us when things seem to be rolling our way, hopefully good management with the right subs will see us seeing this one out.

DCL has been awesome.

Come on Everton, keep this up.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on August 22, 2017, 03:00:36 AM
The mutant wallpushers on RAWK are fewin! Always good for a giggle dropping in there from time-to-time :)
Oh do tell...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 03:01:06 AM
And now for our customary shit half.

Bollocks, I forgot we only ever play well for 45 mins, bah!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 22, 2017, 03:01:34 AM
Still can't get me head around DCL but he's effective. That's for sure.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 22, 2017, 03:02:05 AM
anyone got a decent stream mine has gone down
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 03:02:38 AM
Oh do tell...

Way too many comments to list on here, but needless to say, we are blu shyte and they hate us!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:02:44 AM
Did Walsh spot DCL?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: smellybum on August 22, 2017, 03:02:50 AM
just under 50 to cash out now hmm what to do

Lay off at betfair for 10 and you have yourself a risk free bet.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 22, 2017, 03:03:04 AM
lay a fiver off each  on a draw or city win, can't lose

Just whacked a few bob on Man City double chance at 11/10.

Whatever the outcome it's a winner!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:03:06 AM
Hey, we are giving it our best shot, head up and toe to toe.  That is good enough for me, whatever the final result.  Proud of everyone wearing the shirt right now.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:03:20 AM
Sterling on.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 03:03:22 AM
Fucking stressful!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: School of Science on August 22, 2017, 03:03:25 AM
Neville saying DCL has conned the ref, hmmm maybe retrospective ban now ? What I saw was intent, Walker deffo had a sly look at DCL, knocked into him and raised his arm. As for Davies definite contact not much yes, but thigh to thigh, no way a foul, but no way a booking for diving either. Played well here, City will always make chances they are a world class team, but impressed by us by not just being in a shell.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 03:03:32 AM
anyone got a decent stream mine has gone down

http://firstsrowsports.com/soccer/manchester-city-vs-everton-rer1128939?l=2548416133
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on August 22, 2017, 03:03:43 AM
DCL Superb 10.0 performance so far... take Davis Off for Siggy & See how Morgan gets on, Besic won't last 2mins with this Ref., Barry would have been perfect for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 03:04:16 AM
Rat sterling on
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:04:24 AM
Sterling on for Jesus...

Ederson
Kompany Stones Ottamendi
Sterling Silva Fernandinho De Bruyne Sane
Aguero

Sterling and Sane as wing backs, I'd get Lookman on at some point.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:04:42 AM
Nice to see super-snide Arteta and Guardiola pressuring the fourth official there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 03:06:07 AM
Way too many comments to list on here, but needless to say, we are blu shyte and they hate us!

Fuck me, your bit obsessed with them. Who cares about Liverpool or looking on RAWK while we're playing.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:07:40 AM
Nah, wasn't a backpass.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on August 22, 2017, 03:08:20 AM
Fuck me, your bit obsessed with them. Who cares about Liverpool or looking on RAWK while we're playing.

Mod your site up your hoop then. Delete  or ban me
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 03:08:22 AM
Apparently Rooney's 50th, 150th and 200th goals have all come against Man City.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:08:47 AM
We've kept our shape remarkably well today.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on August 22, 2017, 03:08:52 AM
 Pep needs to teach them throw ins..  lolol
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:08:55 AM
And it's obvious from his commentary which one of his former clubs is favoured by Bruce Hinchcliffe
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 03:09:09 AM
The old familiar thunder of nerves going through me now. I've missed the prem.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:09:42 AM
any streams??
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 03:11:15 AM
Mod your site up your hoop then. Delete  or ban me

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c4/c41220cfe4f7c510921d0f7dfa32199ff6b4ac6d7613ce0344335d6e723e5fb6.jpg)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:11:17 AM
Nice, Mason!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on August 22, 2017, 03:11:24 AM
Holgate is the boy, been superb.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:11:42 AM
Holgate is playing superbly as a right-back tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 03:11:44 AM
They're actually trying to draw the fouls from Davies
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:12:48 AM
STREAM PLEASE GUYS, mines gone down :(
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Fynci on August 22, 2017, 03:12:53 AM
Need to change something, we haven't started brightly
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:13:02 AM
Pickford's distribution has been oddly off tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:13:13 AM
Need to keep it off Pickford's right foot
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 03:13:23 AM
Now the conundrum....

Do we sit tight as we have been doing or do we go more attacking and hope to kill it with a second as they're down to 10

I think I'd go for it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:14:11 AM
Solid start to this half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:14:28 AM
We pass back to Pickford way too much.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:14:38 AM
Need to keep it off Pickford's right foot

His left was awful just then though 😬
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on August 22, 2017, 03:15:04 AM
Looking in control and not too threatened, but would hope we'd get a goal on break soon
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 03:15:32 AM
Who has 10 men here!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 03:16:27 AM
Stupid tackle!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:16:39 AM
please get Davies off
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:16:57 AM
Shitting it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 03:17:04 AM
Who has 10 men here!

often the way...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:17:59 AM
The giant balls of Phil Jagielka to the rescue (again)!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:18:03 AM
often the way...

Plus we're setup to play defensively, that didn't change.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 03:18:08 AM
Wahooo sig and Klaassen
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:18:20 AM
Siggy comin on !!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on August 22, 2017, 03:18:25 AM
Just need to sit this out, they can't have the energy to keep this up with only 10 men
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:18:31 AM
Double swap, smart
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 03:18:38 AM
Worries me that we're just inviting pressure here. We won't be able to hold out I fear
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 22, 2017, 03:18:41 AM
We need to be more ambitious. This is just hanging on and hoping. Weve got to at least try and have a bit of a go at them and push them back
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 03:18:53 AM
Let's see what the squad and Koeman have got to offer. Momentum needs changing!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:18:55 AM
Wow. Sigurdsson coming on, I didn't expect that.

Looks like Klaasen too.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 03:19:45 AM
Game management by an everton manager. What is this sorcery
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 03:19:48 AM
Cmon Gylfi, son of Sigurd.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:20:12 AM
Davy saying 433
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:20:15 AM
Shit, taking off a centre-back 😳
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 03:20:21 AM
Can we please have this ref every week please  ;)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 22, 2017, 03:20:35 AM
Williams and Davies off.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 03:20:36 AM
Man wouldn't be taking Williams off here

Also Davies has got energy, really would have got Schneiderlin off to protect him from that 2nd yellow
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:20:36 AM
442 now ?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:20:53 AM
changing shape, Schneiderlin stays
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:21:06 AM
Williams coming off? Strange.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 03:21:15 AM
Shit, taking off a centre-back 😳

Good

Let's go for it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ridge on August 22, 2017, 03:21:17 AM
Time to give them another 4-0 dicking
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:21:23 AM
That Sigurdsson chant sounded awkward 😂
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 03:21:30 AM
Disappointed a little in Pickford today, distribution been poor by his standards
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 03:21:56 AM
I hope Ron knows what he's doing here.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:22:00 AM
Game management by an everton manager. What is this sorcery

He throws the whole chess board at Pep.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on August 22, 2017, 03:22:46 AM
Free kick Gylfi!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 03:23:10 AM
Edersons tattoo is the worst thing that has ever happened in the premier league
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:23:14 AM
Free kicks finally gonna be quality. :)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:23:22 AM
He didn't put it in the top far corner.

Shit, him.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on August 22, 2017, 03:23:33 AM
Balls my stream paused and won't go back to live. Now I have to try to stay 2 mins behind he on here😤
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 03:23:52 AM
Didn't float out of play harmlessly. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:24:17 AM
This is just excellent football.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:24:23 AM
Holgate and Baines have been magnificent
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:25:25 AM
Great try, Klaassen
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sixymack on August 22, 2017, 03:25:38 AM
Holgate Beastmode
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:25:47 AM
Going to have a good chance in this last 30 mins. Need to take it.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 03:26:06 AM
John Stones really is horrendously overrated
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:26:26 AM
why do city only have one prem badge and what looks like a sleeve sponsor?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:27:45 AM
Brave move by Koeman this.

Not sure it's the best one as we've opened the game up.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:28:15 AM
Davy having a mare
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:28:28 AM
Holgate Beastmode


He's not the most consistent RB, but when he's been good, he's been fucking magnificent.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 03:28:28 AM
stream died
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:28:35 AM
feel sick as hell here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 03:28:36 AM
Holgate running the show here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:28:36 AM
Holgate has been superb tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 03:29:02 AM
Told you he was good didn't I?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:29:24 AM
Shite game of football but totally engrossing. Love nights like this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:29:58 AM
DCL is superb
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 03:30:50 AM
I know the keepers push it to the limit but was miles out the box when he's kicked that. They need to clamp down on that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 03:30:51 AM
Klaassen limping already?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on August 22, 2017, 03:31:24 AM
stream died
me too😤
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:31:41 AM
Holgate running the show here

Much like DCL, he doesn't lack for confidence.  You can at least partially credit Koeman for that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
http://atdhe.top/soccer/watch-manchester-city-vs-everton-714lj
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 03:32:08 AM
When we took Williams off, I thought we were going to step up our efforts to protect the space in front of the defense. Silly me.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:32:16 AM
Told you he was good didn't I?

Dude, I hope the screenshots are attached to your CV.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:33:06 AM
Gana is magic.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:33:09 AM
we need to improve here
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:33:13 AM
What an interception and through-ball from Gana!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:33:48 AM
FUCK YOU wiggly arms!!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:34:23 AM
Klaasen doesn't look up to speed.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:34:40 AM
When we took Williams off, I thought we were going to step up our efforts to protect the space in front of the defense. Silly me.

Yes, it's really looking risky
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:34:52 AM
Goal coming soon I feel
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 03:34:59 AM
Sterling really has zero end product
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:35:10 AM
God, DeBruyne makes me more nervous than Aguero, even.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 03:35:10 AM
Overated pile of shite Sterling.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:35:30 AM
Ottamendi is an unreal snide
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:35:47 AM
Cheating cunt.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:35:48 AM
Maybe it will be Besic for DCL, not Lookman?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:35:50 AM
Disgusting
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:36:25 AM
Fuck off you lump of shit
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:36:37 AM
Top stop !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on August 22, 2017, 03:36:43 AM
Pickford's fucking mint!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:37:03 AM
Filthy from old man Kompany there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:37:03 AM
DCL you HERO
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 03:37:16 AM
Fucking pussy
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:37:18 AM
OK, maybe DCL can't come off at all?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 03:37:40 AM
Rooney is a proper leader isn't he. Always in the refs ear
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:37:43 AM
Fantastic there by DCL.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on August 22, 2017, 03:37:57 AM
Do i dare to dream?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:38:08 AM
Well done Sigurdsson and Rooney, good try 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:38:09 AM
dcl been boss tonight
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 03:38:20 AM
fuck this, i'm going back to sky    :Horse:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toffee1 on August 22, 2017, 03:38:22 AM
Good piece of Free Safety play by Kompany there but we are playing the round ball version of football here.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on August 22, 2017, 03:39:09 AM
Dcl class break there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 03:39:24 AM
Our central players are getting dragged all over the place.

Jags stepped up to cover that run from Danilo, which shouldn't be happening, especially not in a match like this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:39:24 AM
where's the dive on fucking Aguero?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:39:25 AM
Diving cunts these arent they
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:39:34 AM
Diving cunts, nobend fans
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Mr. Devil on August 22, 2017, 03:39:34 AM
Classless cunts. Their team and their fans.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 03:39:35 AM
Get him booked for diving then.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:39:48 AM
Someone tell Klaasen he can take more than one touch
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:40:23 AM
If Davies got a yellow for a dive, surely Aguero should get one too there?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toffee1 on August 22, 2017, 03:40:26 AM
Tom Daley might find a good synchronised diving partner amongst the City players as they are practicing the art of diving every opportunity they get.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:40:46 AM
Rooney and Holgate 👌🏼
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Mr. Devil on August 22, 2017, 03:41:06 AM
We really need to stop passing back to Pickfords right.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on August 22, 2017, 03:41:31 AM
 :Aguero not booked there? Worse than Tom's dive that
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:41:48 AM
TWAT
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:41:49 AM
Ugh, that little cunt
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on August 22, 2017, 03:41:52 AM
Crap
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:41:53 AM
Can't have nice things
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 03:41:56 AM
ffs
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Mr. Devil on August 22, 2017, 03:41:57 AM
Oh fuck it.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:42:00 AM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:42:00 AM
goddamned bullshit goal
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:42:05 AM
Been coming

take a draw all day now
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:42:27 AM
F
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 03:42:38 AM
Not conceded on my stream yet.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 03:42:42 AM
That was coming. but we've done well before then. We can't let this get us down.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 03:42:45 AM
Not that twat
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:42:52 AM
Best not fucking lose this
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:43:02 AM
fuck off
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on August 22, 2017, 03:43:13 AM
Fucking sterling the prick
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:43:13 AM
That's not good from Holgate, headed it right back to the middle of the box.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:43:17 AM
We are likely to lose now.

Poor substitutions I feel.

Hope not, though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:43:21 AM
better play to win
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:43:41 AM
Get Lookman on
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:44:11 AM
The change fucked it.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
Keane did well there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:44:31 AM
Take the draw and fucking run now. Jesus christ, please dont lose this.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:44:42 AM
Piss poor header. Substitutions and formation change have done us. Why tinkerman mk2 why?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on August 22, 2017, 03:44:54 AM
Streams gone down.

Was just starting to feel like we could do this.

Fuckit
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:45:03 AM
we deserve to get beat on this 2nd half performance
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Omar on August 22, 2017, 03:45:08 AM
Fucks sake, holgate. I turn the game on in the 80th minute and that's what I get. 


Christ on a stick!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 03:45:08 AM
Been a poor half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:45:21 AM
I worry about Rooney getting sent off now, FFS
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 03:45:43 AM
Would have been two down without Pickford.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:45:54 AM
Pickford's kicking has been really poor for him.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:46:12 AM
What the fuck has happened to Pickford's kicking?

 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:46:17 AM
We look like a lower league side atm
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on August 22, 2017, 03:46:39 AM
 Just had to be that cunt of cunts didn't it?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on August 22, 2017, 03:46:51 AM
We just look out of ideas
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on August 22, 2017, 03:47:01 AM
What's with all the city players holding there heads when it's a jump ball.

Shithouses
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:47:11 AM
Subs have not helped us. Anonymous really so far.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:47:11 AM
A dtaw would still be a fine result here.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Juanito on August 22, 2017, 03:47:19 AM
Lookman for Rooney. He is tired.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:47:26 AM
Second half has been poor. Seems to happen when top sides go down to 10 men they end up with more space. 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:47:32 AM
IDIOT
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:47:33 AM
Was he trying to be too clever with those subs?

Oh fuck off!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:47:38 AM
oh goddamnit
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:47:38 AM
Red.. nap.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 03:47:55 AM
That's not good from Holgate, headed it right back to the middle of the box.

Has had a good game apart from that, shit happens.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:47:56 AM
Wasn't even a foul
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 03:48:04 AM
Battered by 10 men. Not even strung three passes together all half.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:48:11 AM
Aguero cheating twat.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:48:15 AM
Got the ball.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:48:15 AM
Disgraceful from Aguero and the ref
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:48:17 AM
That better get reversed.  ZERO contact.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 03:48:24 AM
Fucking idiot. Don't dive in like that on a yellow. Personally would have had him off at half time

These are a bunch of snidey cunts they were always gonna get him sent off
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:48:26 AM
Still a bunch of bottle jobs
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:48:28 AM
you diving diving little cunt
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:48:34 AM
Besic on to calm things down
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:48:42 AM
Another yellow card on
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cassius on August 22, 2017, 03:48:47 AM
What the fuck has happened to Pickford's kicking?

 

We've been playing it back to his weaker foot.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 03:48:50 AM
Fuck, well we were struggling with having an extra man anyway.

I hope we can appeal Schneiderlin's red card.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 03:48:54 AM
fantastic
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:49:00 AM
Mo going on.  Good sub, especially if for Rooney
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on August 22, 2017, 03:49:18 AM
He won the fucking ball! Total bullshit
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:49:25 AM
Mo's gonna score
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 03:49:33 AM
Fukin poor this half like.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:49:44 AM
Mo's gonna score

Chalobah style?

Batshuayi even
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:49:47 AM
That second yellow was always coming. Surprised it took the ref this long.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 03:49:49 AM
I think Aguero might soon be on the receiving end of a challenge that will hurt as much as he pretended Schneiderlin's did.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:50:00 AM
We've been playing it back to his weaker foot.

His left hasn't been great either, though
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 03:50:48 AM
This game was always playing out this way it's just whether we can see out a result now
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:51:20 AM
Fuck off Besic
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 03:51:23 AM
Bottled it really. Inferiority complex, small time mentality.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:51:37 AM
Fuck nearly...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:51:53 AM
So comedy from Besic!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cassius on August 22, 2017, 03:52:25 AM
When the game needs calming down with no rash challenges, bring on Mo.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:52:40 AM
Get in Naisy
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:52:42 AM
Wow by Klaassen!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:52:55 AM
Well in Davy..
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:53:13 AM
Well done, Pickford
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:53:19 AM
Well in Klassen
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 03:53:28 AM
Klass
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:53:40 AM
That should do it.  But we can't be missing Schneiderlin for Chelsea, we'll get hammered.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 03:53:54 AM
Happy with the draw tbh

Should have been more though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blob on August 22, 2017, 03:53:56 AM
prob being greedy, but - despite the last 20 - feels like a defeat :(
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on August 22, 2017, 03:53:58 AM
Draw at City aint bad.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 03:54:41 AM
That's a really good result and a well managed game.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 03:54:43 AM
That'll do. It's not amazing but it'll do.

DCL was absolutely immense for a lad of his age, given the utter thanklessness of the task he had been given.
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Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:54:47 AM
And deep breath.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on August 22, 2017, 03:54:57 AM
A point is a point. However we fucked it in the last 20
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 03:55:25 AM
Holgate was absolutely superb tonight. Lack of experience for the goal, but he really was great
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 03:55:34 AM
They are over the moon with a point
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 22, 2017, 03:55:35 AM
Yeh im gutted like, goal came from a mistake which will always hurt.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Chrisknms on August 22, 2017, 03:55:43 AM
would def have taken that at the start
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:55:47 AM
Would've took that at kick off.

A lot of promising signs as we go on.

The change fucked it, but I'd rather that than just sit back waiting for the inevitable.

How do we close these games out? What is it we're missing?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 03:55:49 AM
never done enough to win that , great point in the greater scheme of things though
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2017, 03:56:25 AM
The fuck was Pep up to with that handshake?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on August 22, 2017, 03:56:29 AM
I'd have taken the draw at the start, not a bad result really.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on August 22, 2017, 03:56:35 AM
Too many Everton players are smiling after the match.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 03:56:40 AM
Proud of our players today, shame we couldn't hold out for the win but a steely performance against a team with about 400m of talent in their squad.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:56:48 AM
Shame Holgate made the mistake for the goal but you always run that risk when you have a youngster at the back.

Other than that he put in a massive performance, as did DCL.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:57:13 AM
Frustrating, surprising, a shame given we had the lead for so long but on balance given the amount of play they had it wasn't a bad point.

Only negative, don't think Koeman's subs helped our cause at all. However, his setup to begin with worked very well.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sixymack on August 22, 2017, 03:57:16 AM
Rotten bastards.  Sterling was the game changer for them.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 22, 2017, 03:57:25 AM
I would have snapped your hand off for that point 2 1/2 hrs ago .Gutted for Mason thought he had one of his best games until that header . DCL was incredible .COYB
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
NBC - first headline "Everton are really, really good"
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 03:57:46 AM
Not many teams will keep City out at home this season.  Even fewer will score there.

Thats a good result, with some very very good performances.

Not having Schneiderlin on Sunday is a bag of shit.  Also Rooney looked fucked by the end so will have to see how he is for Thursday.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:57:53 AM
Well, those top class blowies he's getting at home are supercharging DCL's performances
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 03:58:08 AM
Also enjoyed seeing 17 year old Wayne Rooney come out for a bit there.

Just waiting for him to snap and get sent

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 03:58:23 AM
Besic summed up in that passage of play on the 93d minute.

Unbelievable challenge that toed the line of legal or not.

Bust a gut to get up there, tonnes of heart, willing to get involved as much as possible.

Brainless back heel.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 03:58:58 AM
surely that second yellow to snides will be rescinded?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 03:59:06 AM
We missed Davies's pressing in the last 20, but given his situation on the yellow, with that shithouse of a ref, I can see the logic is the subs.  Not a great game to introduce Gylfi though, given he hasn't had any pre season at all.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
Frustrating, surprising, a shame given we had the lead for so long but on balance given the amount of play they had it wasn't a bad point.

Only negative, don't think Koeman's subs helped our cause at all. However, his setup to begin with worked very well.

Yes, Koeman won us one point, and lost us two
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 03:59:23 AM
Can't blame Koeman for the subs. Sig was clearly unfit and Klaassen didn't impose himself on the game. They just didn't produce when we needed them to get involved.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Robioto on August 22, 2017, 03:59:28 AM
To be fair, City were superb tonight and deserved a draw. I didn't even flinch when they scored as I just expected it. They played so well with 10 men.

Saying that, we let them as well. When Klaassen and Sigurdsson came on we should have been controlling the game with our extra man but didn't.

It is a great point though, very few teams will get a result at City this season. A shout out to Calvert-Lewin, seems to be getting better with every game.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Waltzer on August 22, 2017, 03:59:35 AM
DCL man of the match. Led the line amazingly well
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
Too many Everton players are smiling after the match.

Nah, not really having that. Any side in the PL will be happy overall with getting a point away from home to one of the top 4 sides.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 03:59:43 AM
Good result, would have taken that at the start

Sure the change may have fucked it but at least he rolled the dice and went for the kill, ballsy koeman, I say fair play

Can we appeal the red card with it being 2 yellows?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 03:59:47 AM
Williams coming off and having no CB on the bench highlights how important it is we manage to sort one in the last 10 days of the window.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ross on August 22, 2017, 04:00:19 AM
Great team performance, shame about the result but there's plenty of positives to come from that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 04:00:25 AM
Can't rescind a second yellow. He will miss Chelsea on Sunday
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 04:00:30 AM
The fuck was Pep up to with that handshake?

Yeah haha! Pep must really hate playing us
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 04:00:32 AM
Also enjoyed seeing 17 year old Wayne Rooney come out for a bit there.

Just waiting for him to snap and get sent



Yeah, that's why I was begging for him to be subbed off.  Can they review the 2nd yellow on Schneiderlin so he can play on Sunday?  Clearly a blown call.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on August 22, 2017, 04:00:37 AM
Shame they scored in the manner they did, mistake from Holgate but hopefully it is one he will no doubt learn from.

Made up with the performance, fuming with Besic trying a fancy flick at the end there, just needed to steady himself and play him in properly, shame we couldn't have seen that out and made history with 5 straight wins and 5 clean sheets.

I think Chelsea this time around are beatable and I am actually now looking forward to the game rather than dreading it.

Think we need 1 or 2 more in still before the deadline shuts and I think we will.

Tonight's game if anything gave me hope that we are on the right track with Koeman.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 04:00:43 AM
Yeh im gutted like, goal came from a mistake which will always hurt.

True, but a bit of consolation is that this was a true individual mistake, not one that will happen again and again and again.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 04:00:55 AM
Can't blame Koeman for the subs. Sig was clearly unfit and Klaassen didn't impose himself on the game. They just didn't produce when we needed them to get involved.

It wasn't who come on that was the problem, it was who he took off.
It should have been Schneiderlin and Davies and we should have kept a back 5
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 04:00:59 AM
Can't rescind a second yellow. He will miss Chelsea on Sunday

cunts
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Risky on August 22, 2017, 04:01:03 AM
Feeling horribly deflated but know I shouldn't because a point away to City is a very good outcome.

We were lucky with the Walker sending off and rode our luck after that too, but was starting to think we had it in the bag so it was a sickener to let them equalise.  Especially with it being a defensive mistake like that.  Hard to be too harsh on Holgate as otherwise he had a good game, but that's just defending fundamentals that you head the ball away from the danger area.

Will defo look back on this as a good result though.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
Yes, Koeman won us one point, and lost us two

Ha, well I'm not sure I'd put it that way.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Robioto on August 22, 2017, 04:01:22 AM
Yeah, that's why I was begging for him to be subbed off.  Can they review the 2nd yellow on Schneiderlin so he can play on Sunday?  Clearly a blown call.

Can't appeal a yellow unfortunately.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: dchans on August 22, 2017, 04:01:37 AM
Well that diving twat has caused my Mrs to have an uber rant, the upshot of which is I now probably won't get laid tonight

Fuck you Augero you cheating twat
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 04:01:46 AM
Yeah, that's why I was begging for him to be subbed off.  Can they review the 2nd yellow on Schneiderlin so he can play on Sunday?  Clearly a blown call.

No, only straight reds can be reviewed, unless the rules were changed over the last two years.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 22, 2017, 04:01:55 AM
We still have a big inferiority complex against the big teams; and maybe justifiably so. But a goal up against ten men with only 45 minutes left is as good a time as any to try and take the game to them.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:01:59 AM
It wasn't who come on that was the problem, it was who he took off.
It should have been Schneiderlin and Davies and we should have kept a back 5

We didn't need a back 5 though. But for one poor header it would have worked.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on August 22, 2017, 04:02:01 AM
We really need a top striker who has the confidence in the final third to bring others into play. DCL is a decent player but he isn't the answer for me.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 04:02:33 AM
Yes, Koeman won us one point, and lost us two
That's a ridiculous statement, doesn't matter who was on the pitch when that ball went to Sterlings feet he was always going to score, fuck allanyone could have done about it.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 04:02:43 AM
I'll take that. Fucking stressful though!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: pjk on August 22, 2017, 04:02:48 AM
Not many teams will keep City out at home this season.  Even fewer will score there.

Thats a good result, with some very very good performances.

Not having Schneiderlin on Sunday is a bag of shit.  Also Rooney looked fucked by the end so will have to see how he is for Thursday.




We'll appeal that red card.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Silas on August 22, 2017, 04:02:51 AM
I think today showed more tactical awareness than we have seen from Koeman, those attacking subs really should have put us on the front foot against ten. 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 04:02:57 AM
We just needed Mirallas or Lookman towards the end.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gash on August 22, 2017, 04:03:02 AM
Yeah, that's why I was begging for him to be subbed off.  Can they review the 2nd yellow on Schneiderlin so he can play on Sunday?  Clearly a blown call.

It's a yellow card leading to the red and you can't appeal yellow cards. If it was a straight red we could have.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: chang on August 22, 2017, 04:03:03 AM
Not many teams will go there and come away with a point let alone three.


I was bit disappointed with some of the comments about the team tonight - we have 3 big games in 7 days - have a little faith fellow blues in the management team, we have hopefully a very long season ahead of us, there will lucky moments, unlucky moments, but above all the fans must stay with the team...COYB... still love you all though!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on August 22, 2017, 04:03:27 AM
What a great game of football that was!

Gutted we couldn't hang on but it was a good point and it's been a good start to the season. I would like to think that when we become more experienced and more confident that we will be able to see that type of game through

Imo was a poor decision to leave Schneiderlin on. I said at half time that i thought he would get sent off. He really shouldn't have dived in, even if he did win the ball. These have some world class turds in their side. As talented as Aguero is, he's a fucking cheat. And as for Otamendi, the jarg hardman with the shite haircut who would wear gloves in the fucking summer, I've got news for you mate, you are a fucking fanny, you little bell end

Tonight was the night that a boy became a man. Dominic Calvert-Lewin was fantastic

Mason Holgate likewise, gutted for him that his header led to Sterlings goal

Would have loved that through ball from besic to have gotten through to Dominic Calvert-Lewin. If ever a player deserved to slot a winner it was Big Dom tonight

Also, shit how nice did our kit look?!Im buying it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 04:03:28 AM
I don't think we played scared.  They just are a good side and kept the pressure on us, and we aren't quite deep enough to overcome that yet.  Few are.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 04:03:34 AM
We didn't need a back 5 though. But for one poor header it would have worked.

Everyone knew Schneiderlin was gonna get a second yellow, you could tell they would play for it.
We were playing well with a back 5, we didn't need to change it.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 04:04:03 AM
A striker and centre back in next week
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bally on August 22, 2017, 04:04:24 AM
Apart from city fucking diving all over the fucking place and Holgates header, that was a decent game, Holgate was class to be honest just a little bit of naivety cost him and us, to be fair we should have closed them out with another goal and actually went for it, they would have collapsed but how many times do you see 10 men up their game because they know they have to try harder.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:04:26 AM
Feeling horribly deflated but know I shouldn't because a point away to City is a very good outcome.

We were lucky with the Walker sending off and rode our luck after that too, but was starting to think we had it in the bag so it was a sickener to let them equalise.  Especially with it being a defensive mistake like that.  Hard to be too harsh on Holgate as otherwise he had a good game, but that's just defending fundamentals that you head the ball away from the danger area.

Will defo look back on this as a good result though.

Yeah, I mean we played very well but they shouldn't have been playing with 10 men. Neither should we have done either.

We made some luck, some was handed to us, and we also got unlucky late on.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Robioto on August 22, 2017, 04:04:38 AM



We'll appeal that red card.

Can't appeal a yellow card unfortunately. He's out against Chelsea.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 04:04:49 AM
Those headphones look ridiculous.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 04:04:52 AM
We still have a big inferiority complex against the big teams; and maybe justifiably so. But a goal up against ten men with only 45 minutes left is as good a time as any to try and take the game to them.

I'm afraid, despite the money we have spent, we are still clearly the 'best of the rest' unfortunately.

I want us to get to the stage where this is not a big result, but a disappointing one.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 04:05:15 AM
No many teams will come away from there with a point this season, yes they had 10 men but their movement and passing made it look like they had 12, im pleased with the draw
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: pjk on August 22, 2017, 04:05:15 AM



We'll appeal that red card.



Edit: No we won't! ;D
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on August 22, 2017, 04:05:32 AM
We really need a top striker who has the confidence in the final third to bring others into play. DCL is a decent player but he isn't the answer for me.

We had one.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 04:05:36 AM
I'm afraid, despite the money we have spent, we are still clearly the 'best of the rest' unfortunately.

I want us to get to the stage where this is not a big result, but a disappointing one.
Don't think anyone thinks this is a big result but I know what you're getting at.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:05:55 AM
Everyone knew Schneiderlin was gonna get a second yellow, you could tell they would play for it.
We were playing well with a back 5, we didn't need to change it.

The red didn't change the game though, it was 1-1 when it happened.

We were playing well 11 v 11 with a back 5. Against 1 up top we'd have been outnumbered in midfield and probably conceded even more possession.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on August 22, 2017, 04:06:19 AM
Think Lookman would have been useful instead of Siggy both him & Klaassen looked off the pace and we knew Morgan would get the 2nd yellow, key player lost at weekend & that fuckin Ref. What a weapon.....
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on August 22, 2017, 04:06:41 AM
Naive second half performance. I'm fine with the players Koeman brought on but I don't agree with the shape of the team.

Take Klaassen, for example. He did some good defensive work at the end which begs the question - why wasn't he positioning himself deeper sooner? We were wide open in the period leading up to their goal, with Schneiderlin and Gana getting dragged all over the place, and we could have used another body to help clog up the space in front of the defense. There's no guarantee that doing this would have kept them out but at least it wouldn't have made it so easy for them to carve us open.

Koeman is usually very conscious of protecting that space in the middle of the pitch so I'm surprised at how bad we were after the changes. Hopefully, we learn from this and do things better the next time we're protecting a fragile lead.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on August 22, 2017, 04:06:50 AM
We had no one to hold the ball when they were down to 10 men. I know they have top players but they had far too much of the ball in the 2nd half.  Some excellent performances, apart from the sub Klaessen who I thought might run around and get the ball but did nothing from the time he came on. Besic might have been a better sub to get tackles in and stop City but he might have got himself sent off anyway. Good point considering the difference in class.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 04:07:02 AM
Ref had a shocker there, awful performance.

As for us, first half was good, second half missed opportunity

Id have took a point pre game tho
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 04:07:28 AM
That ref got so many big calls wrong
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on August 22, 2017, 04:07:31 AM
Agree with most on here that's alread said.

Love DCL!

But I think Jags deserves a special mention from this game too - 105 years old and gave Aguero nothing all night. Very impressive performance from the captain.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 04:07:53 AM
The red didn't change the game though, it was 1-1 when it happened.

We were playing well 11 v 11 with a back 5. Against 1 up top we'd have been outnumbered in midfield and probably conceded even more possession.

The change made us go to a back 4, which added to the reason why we failed to clear the ball properly and why Sterling was unmarked in the box, that wouldn't have happened with a back 5.

The red meant that we had no chance of getting another goal to try and win all 3 points.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 04:08:11 AM
Naive second half performance.

Nothing naive about it
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:08:31 AM
Although the subs played poorly, the intent was probably correct...just the players at our disposal weren't the right ones. We needed some pace at least.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: velimski on August 22, 2017, 04:08:35 AM
Overated pile of shite Sterling.

Knew that cunt would have the last laugh after  saying that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: wepull on August 22, 2017, 04:08:41 AM
I think today showed more tactical awareness than we have seen from Koeman, those attacking subs really should have put us on the front foot against ten.
Too early for sigurdsson I felt. Also we narrowed up a lot due to those substitutions which led to our full backs being stretched out and leaving a lot of gaps at the centre of the pitch.

Fair play to city though, second half we looked like the team with 10 players. Their individual and team play were quite commendable and a point earned should be more than satisfactory with the way the game was played.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 04:08:46 AM
Thinking about Aguero in that game is making me fume. Working with a City fan tomorrow too....there's going to be some pelters.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 22, 2017, 04:09:03 AM
1-1 fair result and as above . we would have taken that at the beginning, Glyfi needed the game time , but Lookman's pace may have been a better shout.......

Still need an other CB and striker,   Dom had his best game for us to-date , against city 3 CB    seem to remember Rom not having much luck against 3 defenders

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on August 22, 2017, 04:09:10 AM
Ultimately a very good point away to the league favourites.

Disappointed to lose the lead so late, but we will build on the many many positives from today.

DCL has proven himself as a striker and hopefully after signing another one, he will be a very able second choice.

Rooney is still clinical.

Pickford is fucking amazing.

Baines still has it.

Only negative for Koeman, in my opinion was bringing on Sigurdson and playing him wide. We should have brought on Lookman, or if anything brought Sigurdson on for Rooney, who was tiring.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:09:42 AM
The change made us go to a back 4, which added to the reason why we failed to clear the ball properly and why Sterling was unmarked in the box, that wouldn't have happened with a back 5.

The red meant that we had no chance of getting another goal to try and win all 3 points.

We failed to clear the ball properly because it was a poor header. No other reason.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but for a mistake we take 3 points. Let's get a bit of perspective.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on August 22, 2017, 04:10:51 AM
We failed to clear the ball properly because it was a poor header. No other reason.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but for a mistake we take 3 points. Let's get a bit of perspective.

That and holgate being off balance running backwards and being backed into by Silva

Should have been stronger but that will come
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:11:15 AM
God there are some doom mongers on here

A draw away to title favourites City with half a team of new players

Let's have some perspective eh
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 04:11:55 AM
We failed to clear the ball properly because it was a poor header. No other reason.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but for a mistake we take 3 points. Let's get a bit of perspective.

As I said, if we didn't make the change to a back 4, it is unlikely we would have conceded a goal.
It's not hindsight, plenty of people on here and twitter etc was asking for Schniderlin and Davies to be replaced, not any defender.
It was a poor decision that cost us 2 points.

It's a good point away from home, but poor judgment by Koeman that could have made it a fantastic result.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 04:12:20 AM
God there are some doom mongers on here

A draw away to title favourites City with half a team of new players

Let's have some perspective eh

I'm sure people will have perspective later but right now it does feel a bit like a defeat.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Robioto on August 22, 2017, 04:13:33 AM
I'm afraid, despite the money we have spent, we are still clearly the 'best of the rest' unfortunately.

I want us to get to the stage where this is not a big result, but a disappointing one.

Let's give it a bit of time. We've drawn away at the favourites for the title, with a team full of new players who haven't gelled yet, a week before the transfer window closes.

It will take a time to get the the stage you talk about, we need to be patient and I honestly don't think we are a million miles off.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 04:14:08 AM
God there are some doom mongers on here

A draw away to title favourites City with half a team of new players

Let's have some perspective eh

they had 10 men and out played us
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on August 22, 2017, 04:14:52 AM
Two positives for the future for me: Calvert Lewin is going to be a top player and Holgate has learned a lesson he won't forget. The negative (huge) is the result and attitude. I've forgiven games like that for 40 years cos we were what we were, but that wasn't what I expected from a team I hoped might challenge for the top places. Disappointed to say the least.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on August 22, 2017, 04:14:58 AM
Subs were not quite right. Sigs was clearly not fit and lookman should have been on as an outlet with his pace. Koeman got that wrong.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:15:11 AM
I'm sure people will have perspective later but right now it does feel a bit like a defeat.

I get that but it wasn't a defeat

It was in fact a very decent result

Anything at Chelsea and it's a great start to the season
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 04:15:24 AM
Thought Koeman wasn't going to mention a striker then, thank god.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 22, 2017, 04:15:49 AM
I think today showed more tactical awareness than we have seen from Koeman, those attacking subs really should have put us on the front foot against ten.
Yeah, it's not like he put on enigmatic wingers. He put on two possession players who were charged with trying to get hold of the ball and to keep it. They didn't - not that I blame them, there were mitigating circumstances.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:16:16 AM
they had 10 men and out played us

It's City for fucks sake, not Bognor Regis  :headbang:
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:16:29 AM
Do you think Koeman's substitutions were a bit self serving? Trying to wedge in Sigurdsson and Klaasen a bit needlessly perhaps? Both you'd think were his signings. Or was it purely tactical?

Sigurdsson seemed kinda bizarre given he's had zero pre-season and no time at the club to get used to the team.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 04:16:40 AM
Let's give it a bit of time. We've drawn away at the favourites for the title, with a team full of new players who haven't gelled yet, a week before the transfer window closes.

It will take a time to get the the stage you talk about, we need to be patient and I honestly don't think we are a million miles off.

I think we are.  It could be a lot worse, and I think once Gylfi gets match fit we will be challengers for Europa, but it's a long way off from where the very best in the Premier League are at.

I'm not down on the result, or even the performance, but there were two completely different levels of football being played tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 04:17:02 AM
God there are some doom mongers on here

A draw away to title favourites City with half a team of new players

Let's have some perspective eh
We should have been able to hold out and even take the game to them. We made a double substitution with 70 million worth of players. We ain't small time anymore.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Risky on August 22, 2017, 04:18:14 AM
As I said, if we didn't make the change to a back 4, it is unlikely we would have conceded a goal.
It's not hindsight, plenty of people on here and twitter etc was asking for Schniderlin and Davies to be replaced, not any defender.
It was a poor decision that cost us 2 points.

It's a good point away from home, but poor judgment by Koeman that could have made it a fantastic result.

I don't think the defensive change was the cause.  We were under the same pressure with 3 as we were with a back 4.  Koeman has actually just explained it very well in as much as City were all playing very centrally and Baines and Holgate ended up marking no-one.

As said, it was a mistake that cost us and you can't legislate for it.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 04:18:22 AM
It's City for fucks sake, not Bognor Regis  :headbang:

and we are Everton not Dagenham and Redbridge
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:18:48 AM
We just needed Mirallas or Lookman towards the end.

Would have preferred to see Mirallas over Klaassen, just because of his experience. Klaassen made a great defensive interception, but was otherwise a bit anonymous. I'm a bit worried that he might be a bit too light weight. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:19:35 AM
We should have been able to hold out and even take the game to them. We made a double substitution with 70 million worth of players. We ain't small time anymore.

Sorry but we're currently a work in progress

They are supposed to be the finished article.......and title favourites......and we were away
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on August 22, 2017, 04:19:55 AM
Do you think Koeman's substitutions were a bit self serving? Trying to wedge in Sigurdsson and Klaasen a bit needlessly perhaps? Both you'd think were his signings. Or was it purely tactical?

Sigurdsson seemed kinda bizarre given he's had zero pre-season and no time at the club to get used to the team.

No, I think they made sense. I'd have taken Rooney off a couple of minutes earlier for Lookman maybe, to run at their defenders and terrify them.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 04:19:55 AM
Do you think Koeman's substitutions were a bit self serving? Trying to wedge in Sigurdsson and Klaasen a bit needlessly perhaps? Both you'd think were his signings. Or was it purely tactical?

Sigurdsson seemed kinda bizarre given he's had zero pre-season and no time at the club to get used to the team.

I can see what he was trying to achieve. And probably wanted to avoid what happened later to Schneiderlin to happen to Davies. But it didn't work. Gylfi isn't fit enough yet, having played no pre season with Swansea, and Davy....hmm I can't figure out what it is he does yet.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:20:21 AM
and we are Everton not Dagenham and Redbridge

See above post
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 04:20:40 AM
forgot how stressful it is watching us, needed a shower after that like, proper shitting it at the end there
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Fynci on August 22, 2017, 04:21:41 AM
Would have preferred to see Mirallas over Klaassen, just because of his experience. Klaassen made a great defensive interception, but was otherwise a bit anonymous. I'm a bit worried that he might be a bit too light weight. Hope I'm wrong.

Bit anonymous? His interception probably kept us with a point.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 04:22:00 AM
Jags is my MotM.  Just massive.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:22:27 AM
Koeman put on two players who are normally very good in possession. Unfortunately they didn't deliver. Can't blame him for that. Even if Sig wasn't fit he should have been able to last 30 minutes with an extra man.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 04:22:55 AM
Do you think Koeman's substitutions were a bit self serving? Trying to wedge in Sigurdsson and Klaasen a bit needlessly perhaps? Both you'd think were his signings. Or was it purely tactical?

Sigurdsson seemed kinda bizarre given he's had zero pre-season and no time at the club to get used to the team.

Oh here we go with the conspiracy theorists ! No, I don't think he is that unprofessional, I think kinda bizarrely that he wanted to win that gome !
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:23:07 AM
they had 10 men and out played us


But you have to look at the quality of those 10. We started the game with two U20 World Cup winners and another teenager who would have been in that same England squad bar being rested. City's team is full of seasoned internationals who have cost 10's of millions. You need some perspective lad, you're constantly coming out with bullshit shouts.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2017, 04:23:14 AM
I think the purpose of bringing Sigurdsson on was to help us with any set pieces we could have won, plus he needs to play anyway in order to get more and more match fitness, in fact is he eligible to play against Split this Thursday?

If he hadn't played, people would have been demanding to know why the most expensive player in the history of Everton Football Club did not come off the bench yet Besic did.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueNoseMike on August 22, 2017, 04:23:20 AM
One bad header from a young lad from a perfect smash and grab against the best (Imo) in the league.I said this to my mate on a run before but we are going to be so hard to beat this season, I can see us racking up clean sheets for fun, with a keeper and defenders who are determined to do that.

I could see sort of see the reason to go back 4. We were losing the midfield battle and needed an extra body there. With it being 10 men we could probably afford to lose one of the centre halves. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I'm not having that we should have took Morgs off. He offers the calmness and positional awareness in the defensive midfeild area that nobody else in the squad does (with barry leaving. For all of his great energy and ability to tackle, Gueye isn't the type to sit in and try to control the midfield. Come on, imagine taking Schneiderlin off for Besic and having him and Gana in there. City's tricky wizards would pull them apart.

The only wrong step was Klaassen looked abit off the pace. Think Koeman expected him and the Sig to get their foot on the ball.

Feels like a defeat now but overall a point is good and I'm more confident going into the tough games coming.

COYB
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 04:23:27 AM
Can we stop with the fucking doom and gloom please, you'd think we lost the way some of you are going on
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on August 22, 2017, 04:23:48 AM
I'm not a DCL fan, but I can learn.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 22, 2017, 04:23:56 AM
Jags is my MotM.  Just massive.

Yeah, Jags was immense. 35 and still beautiful.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:24:33 AM
Bit anonymous? His interception probably kept us with a point.

Did you actually read what I wrote?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 04:25:05 AM
and we are Everton not Dagenham and Redbridge

Let's have this conversation at the end of the season, possibly one or two clubs will win at the Etihad, maybe three or four will get a point, we are one of them so put it into perspective.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:25:07 AM
Oh here we go with the conspiracy theorists ! No, I don't think he is that unprofessional, I think kinda bizarrely that he wanted to win that gome !

Casual question, wasn't a conspiracy theory. It seemed odd to put those particular players on, Sigurdsson in particular as he's literally had no pre-season games.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 22, 2017, 04:25:26 AM
I think I would have liked to see Lookman come on, a bit of real pace to have a go at Kompany and Otemendi.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 04:26:46 AM
I don't think the defensive change was the cause.  We were under the same pressure with 3 as we were with a back 4.  Koeman has actually just explained it very well in as much as City were all playing very centrally and Baines and Holgate ended up marking no-one.

As said, it was a mistake that cost us and you can't legislate for it.

I think it was, taking 5 defenders down to 4 and conceding a goal from an unmarked person in the box would suggest that it was a poor move.

Edit: likewise you could day Klaassen stopped a certain goal, so subs worked. Every cloud n all that.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on August 22, 2017, 04:27:00 AM
I think I would have liked to see Lookman come on, a bit of real pace to have a go at Kompany and Otemendi.

Yeah, when we took Davies off we were missing some energy in the team.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Escla on August 22, 2017, 04:27:32 AM
Casual question, wasn't a conspiracy theory. It seemed odd to put those particular players on, Sigurdsson in particular as he's literally had no pre-season games.

He's been in full training, was  always going to be good for half an hour and we need to give him some game time before Split and City in the next 6 days.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:27:40 AM
Another couple of draws in the next two games and it'll have been a good week.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 22, 2017, 04:28:05 AM
I said before the game i thought we'd win it 0-1 you boys in the depressing prediction thread all thinking we'd get smashed.....gutting for me as i had 20 on 11/1 but hey ho....have a bit of faith
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:28:13 AM
Some very naive shouts about Bringing on lookman to close out the game? That's bollocks.
It was great tactics by Koeman, and extremely hard work executing the plan by the players.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on August 22, 2017, 04:28:13 AM
Can't appeal a yellow card unfortunately. He's out against Chelsea.
Can appeal against a second yellow if the opponent dived.

I learnt that in the first half tonight from City fans ;)
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 22, 2017, 04:28:31 AM
Another couple of draws in the next two games and it'll have been a good week.

A very good week,

Be chuffed to bits with that
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:29:03 AM
Carraghers some dickhead. Give me Neville any day.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 04:30:16 AM
Carraghers some dickhead. Give me Neville any day.

they are still better than those wankers on BT
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:30:27 AM
Apparently first time ever in management Lord Pep has played a team 3 times and not won once.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:30:49 AM
they are still better than those wankers on BT
Ya spose.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Can appeal against a second yellow if the opponent dived.

I learnt that in the first half tonight from City fans ;)

Even though Aguero went down like a sack of shit, Schneiderlin does catch him with his trailing foot. We won't appeal, and we wouldn't get the decision if we did.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:32:09 AM
Headlines for Rooney, Dcl, Mason, but Baines, Jags and Gueye were
both fucking brilliant.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:32:42 AM
Apparently first time ever in management Lord Pep has played a team 3 times and not won once.

Koeman has a great record against him.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 04:33:38 AM
What's the post game comments been like? I'm watching GOT
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2017, 04:33:47 AM
Pep deffo well into the beak
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on August 22, 2017, 04:34:19 AM
Another couple of draws in the next two games and it'll have been a good week.
For you maybe. I'll still think we should have gone for the second tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on August 22, 2017, 04:34:49 AM
Odd bloke is Pep
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on August 22, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
Proper awkward interview this
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: schleffera on August 22, 2017, 04:35:26 AM
He despises the interviewer.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 04:36:06 AM
Thought Pickford was disappointingly wasteful with the ball at his feet.

He has wonderful distribution with the ball in his hands, but it felt like every time he kicked it off the deck it came straight back to us.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 04:37:31 AM
But you have to look at the quality of those 10. We started the game with two U20 World Cup winners and another teenager who would have been in that same England squad bar being rested. City's team is full of seasoned internationals who have cost 10's of millions. You need some perspective lad, you're constantly coming out with bullshit shouts.

baines jags williams morgan gana klassen rooney sig 8 seasoned internationals, its not like we played the U23's i expected to get beat before the game, that second half was beyond poor, and to say it was because of the U20 players is not on, DCL was one of the best on the field

and how is it a bad shout to say we was outplayed by 10 men
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 22, 2017, 04:38:11 AM
also, all feelings/emotions are fucking dumb, but hope is by far the worst.  :(

Logically, I am very, very proud of the point! 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on August 22, 2017, 04:40:55 AM
Thought Pickford was disappointingly wasteful with the ball at his feet.

He has wonderful distribution with the ball in his hands, but it felt like every time he kicked it off the deck it came straight back to us.

Because they kept kicking it to the foot he is weak on
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 04:41:01 AM
Thought Pickford was disappointingly wasteful with the ball at his feet.

He has wonderful distribution with the ball in his hands, but it felt like every time he kicked it off the deck it came straight back to us.

He's left footed, so our defenders need to learn to knock it to his left
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on August 22, 2017, 04:42:43 AM
Headlines for Rooney, Dcl, Mason, but Baines, Jags and Gueye were
both fucking brilliant.
Agree except DCL should also be in the 'but' part.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 04:42:48 AM
Klaassen pulled up sharply and spent a couple of minutes limping right after he came on.  After that he looked well off the pace, but was still in the right place to make that interception at the end.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 04:44:30 AM
baines jags williams morgan gana klassen rooney sig 8 seasoned internationals, its not like we played the U23's i expected to get beat before the game, that second half was beyond poor, and to say it was because of the U20 players is not on, DCL was one of the best on the field

and how is it a bad shout to say we was outplayed by 10 men

And I don't think any of those players would get near City's starting lineup. I'm not saying it was because of the U20's, I'm using them as an example to show the gulf in quality between the two teams. We had to work harder to match their quality. That extra work showed in how tired we were, even against 10 men.

Your lack of appreciation for the difference in quality is flabbergasting.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on August 22, 2017, 04:46:16 AM
He's left footed, so our defenders need to learn to knock it to his left
What? 😮😮
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 04:49:19 AM
baines jags williams morgan gana klassen rooney sig 8 seasoned internationals, its not like we played the U23's i expected to get beat before the game, that second half was beyond poor, and to say it was because of the U20 players is not on, DCL was one of the best on the field

and how is it a bad shout to say we was outplayed by 10 men
If you cant see the difference in quality between sides then, tbh, I'm amazed

Even a man down, they would beat most sides in the pl cos of the quality they have

The ten man thing is massively over blown at any standard anyway. If you have fitness, quality and pace it matters little
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on August 22, 2017, 04:50:54 AM
What? 😮😮

Exactly
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 04:52:28 AM
And I don't think any of those players would get near City's starting lineup. I'm not saying it was because of the U20's, I'm using them as an example to show the gulf in quality between the two teams. We had to work harder to match their quality. That extra work showed in how tired we were, even against 10 men.

Your lack of appreciation for the difference in quality is flabbergasting.

i understand there is a gulf in quality 11 v 11 but against 10 men we should not have been so poor, i would understand even if they was slightly better with 10 but we was completely out played 2nd half, it looked like we was the team with 10 men, every match i see the same thing, we can only play for 45 mins, correct me if i am wrong
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 04:53:37 AM
That's a ridiculous statement, doesn't matter who was on the pitch when that ball went to Sterlings feet he was always going to score, fuck allanyone could have done about it.

It was tongue in cheek, ya bellend
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:54:20 AM
Toughest game of the season and a point from it. I'll take that all day long. Lots of if's, but's and maybe's but 4 points from first two games is a point more than most thought we'd have.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 04:55:05 AM
Because they kept kicking it to the foot he is weak on

he was unusually poor with his left too, he did make a few good passes but lots where poor, i think nerves got the better of him, he is still a young lad and i think the pressure got to him with his kicking, i feel confident in his shot stopping tho, not felt like that about our keeper for a good few years
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: fubarruk on August 22, 2017, 04:55:41 AM
Draw at City is a good result, end of.

They're title favourites for a reason and but for a individual error we probably would have taken 3 points.

We didn't get beat in what will always be a tough game.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on August 22, 2017, 04:56:54 AM
i understand there is a gulf in quality 11 v 11 but against 10 men we should not have been so poor, i would understand even if they was slightly better with 10 but we was completely out played 2nd half, it looked like we was the team with 10 men, every match i see the same thing, we can only play for 45 mins, correct me if i am wrong

Never seen a 90 minutes out of Koemans Everton, a complete performance if you will. No excuses now with the squad we have assembled they should be able to dominate inferior or numerically inferior opponents more than they do.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 04:57:03 AM
The City 10 that were left is still better than most 11, think we did as much as we are capable of at the mo.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 04:57:54 AM
It was tongue in cheek, ya bellend
Didnt mean to like this.  Sorry @Escla (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210) .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 05:02:07 AM
Shame for Holgate, thought he had a decent game otherwise.

Gonna be a long slog of a season this, if we get through on Thursday. If we're still producing performances like this in January then we can genuinely moan but a point away at City second game in is all that matters.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 05:04:20 AM
Didnt mean to like this.  Sorry @Escla (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210) .

You trying to get me sent-off?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 05:08:25 AM
right so my observations

3 at the back i hate, but in this match we played much better with 3  cb's  when williams went off it all fell apart

i like DCL but wasnt confident he is ready yet, he was by far our best player going forward, had pace, held the ball up and generally was aware to pick out players

also city are dirty cunts
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on August 22, 2017, 05:08:45 AM
The City 10 that were left is still better than most 11, think we did as much as we are capable of at the mo.
That's what we have been saying and excepting for years, and rightly so. I for one was expecting progress this year
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on August 22, 2017, 05:09:00 AM
You trying to get me sent-off?

Yup, i'm DCLing you.  :D
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on August 22, 2017, 05:11:13 AM
Yup, i'm DCLing you.  :D

You shhhniiide 😧👊🏼😁
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 05:12:08 AM
Thought DCL's performance was outstanding. Showed guts and a lot of energy to show for the ball all night on his own up there. I think he's just about my favourite player so far this season.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 22, 2017, 05:13:38 AM
right so my observations

3 at the back i hate, but in this match we played much better with 3  cb's  when williams went off it all fell apart

i like DCL but wasnt confident he is ready yet, he was by far our best player going forward, had pace, held the ball up and generally was aware to pick out players

also city are dirty cunts
They played the same formation.
Had a lad sent off, changed formation so we matched it... Williams going off didn't change the game in any way

We tried to hold on and failed, city are a top side with players in every position arguably better than us, its a good result
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 05:17:10 AM
They played the same formation.
Had a lad sent off, changed formation so we matched it... Williams going off didn't change the game in any way

We tried to hold on and failed, city are a top side with players in every position arguably better than us, its a good result

i think u misunderstood me

before the match i complained about the formation

was trying to say we actually plyed well with 3 at the back
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ravardo on August 22, 2017, 05:17:41 AM
Couple of points why did he take williams off was he injured? has barry gone to soon and why bring on two number 10's,,,my stream went off a few minutes before the subs and it took me 10mins to get another running
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 05:21:33 AM
Couple of points why did he take williams off was he injured? has barry gone to soon and why bring on two number 10's,,,my stream went off a few minutes before the subs and it took me 10mins to get another running

personally if williams wasnt holding his back id have put anyone on for davis and morgan i thought both played well first half but for the simple fact u could see city would do anything to get someone sent off
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 05:25:38 AM
That's what we have been saying and excepting for years, and rightly so. I for one was expecting progress this year
The road is long
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: burkey17 on August 22, 2017, 05:46:11 AM
Yes we can all say if only.... but I'm well happy with that. From the youngest DCL- I have my doubts but tonight my doubts are gone. That's why Koeman rates him- the 'striker'. Pushed into to lead the line- remember 2n from Sheffield Utd, hardly any experience but he worked his arse off- and the eldest Jags. Finished?! Well we all thought so this time last Season. Great performance. Another 2/3 in by end of the window please! And we now move on to Thur. Difficult week but we wouldn't want it anyway would we? Keep the faith all. Proud blue tonight!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: gizzblue on August 22, 2017, 05:58:11 AM
Was treating the three cb's again yet it was decent although Williams was shite ....dropped two points to a young defensive error but will take it all day against city....Koemans idea was right in with subs. ...but it didn't work at all ....it will when they're all up to speed .... Jags looked ten years younger ....m.o.m easy .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 06:01:11 AM
Was treating the three cb's again yet it was decent although Williams was shite ....dropped two points to a young defensive error but will take it all day against city....Koemans idea was right in with subs. ...but it didn't work at all ....it will when they're all up to speed .... Jags looked ten years younger ....m.o.m easy .

Williams wasn't shite though was he? He's been wobbly so far this season but, apart from one crap pass, you couldn't say he was crap tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 22, 2017, 06:16:49 AM
Just watching the 20min highlights, safe to say the ref had a total mare?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 06:22:19 AM
Just watching the 20min highlights, safe to say the ref had a total mare?

Difficult though isn't it.
From his angle it did look like Walker had led with an elbow, he must have thought it wasn't intentional as it would have been a straight red.

I think Schneiderlin was quite stupid, don't get me wrong it was a good tackle, but I think it was borderline reckless, especially on a yellow, and he did make contact with his trailing leg, it's tough to know whether he was in full control of the tackle or not.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: gizzblue on August 22, 2017, 06:23:06 AM
Williams wasn't shite though was he? He's been wobbly so far this season but, apart from one crap pass, you couldn't say he was crap tonight.
Where was he second half ???.....in the bath were he belongs ....shite was being generous .imho....he was bought as a stop gap last year and should have been sold asap.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 06:24:54 AM
What can you say really? We probably should have lost it due to the overwhelming pressure but we grit our teeth and just about made it out.

Not going to pretend I know what he should have done because the game was on a knife edge from minute 1 imo. It looked like an individual error rather than systemic to me but it's also true that we threatened them less in the second half. We are always, regardless of system, going to be worst without Morgan Schneiderlin on the pitch. Feel for Holgate because I think he was terrific

Superb stuff from DCL, would like to see us create some chances for him now.

Really no idea who to play against split...can't rest Rooney and DCL but Sandro is injured. Besic against Chelsea? Gulp.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on August 22, 2017, 06:27:40 AM
i understand there is a gulf in quality 11 v 11 but against 10 men we should not have been so poor, i would understand even if they was slightly better with 10 but we was completely out played 2nd half, it looked like we was the team with 10 men, every match i see the same thing, we can only play for 45 mins, correct me if i am wrong

I've corrected you twice already lad.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 06:29:02 AM
City could play every game this year with 10 men and probably come inside the top 7.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 06:32:01 AM
City could play every game this year with 10 men and probably come inside the top 7.

and it would be nice to be in the 6 above that beat them.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on August 22, 2017, 06:37:03 AM
Where was he second half ???.....in the bath were he belongs ....shite was being generous .imho....he was bought as a stop gap last year and should have been sold asap.

Did we concede or look like conceding when he was on? That would be no. He's not been brilliant but he wasn't shite tonight.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 22, 2017, 06:59:22 AM
Difficult though isn't it.
From his angle it did look like Walker had led with an elbow, he must have thought it wasn't intentional as it would have been a straight red.

I think Schneiderlin was quite stupid, don't get me wrong it was a good tackle, but I think it was borderline reckless, especially on a yellow, and he did make contact with his trailing leg, it's tough to know whether he was in full control of the tackle or not.

I thought the schneiderlin one was touch and go, got the ball but collected Aguero in the process. Some give it, some don't. As you say the Walker angle is poor for him.. but Tom's 'dive'? Obviously I didn't see the whole thing so the context may be ropey but the impression was inconsistency?
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 22, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
I thought the schneiderlin one was touch and go, got the ball but collected Aguero in the process. Some give it, some don't. As you say the Walker angle is poor for him.. but Tom's 'dive'? Obviously I didn't see the whole thing so the context may be ropey but the impression was inconsistency?

I love the way Davies draws in a foul, I haven't seen it back but I think he looked like he was on his way down before the contact took place?, I think that's why the refs pulled him up.
It was shame because that really took the wind out of his sails.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: burkey17 on August 22, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
I think it was a 'team performance' tonight. Williams was not 'shite' at all. He played well in the '3' tonight against quick nippy forwards looking for pockets of space all the time. Many teams will go the Etihad and get turned over there this Season. Made up that we are not conceding goals so far this Season. You build from the back and hopefully that confidence will continue- 1 goal conceded in 5 games? Pretty damned good!
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: hannu on August 22, 2017, 07:46:23 AM
City could play every game this year with 10 men and probably come inside the top 7.

i get city are a good team with quality players

we are Everton we also have quality players, we should never be happy getting played off the park no matter who it is

the way some of you go on you would think we was a sunday league team

i know we are not the best team in the league am not deluded

but we are more than capable, we smashed them 4-0 last season with 11 men

am not saying we should expect to beat everyone. there are better teams
but we need to shake this attitude of the moyes era of feeling lucky to get out alive (alot of you seem to still believe this)

before kick off a draw would have been a good result, but from a winning position with an extra man a draw feels like a loss to me, to me this feels worse than if we got beat 3-0, at the end of the season a point from this might feel like we did well, but we had it in our hands and it feels like we bottled it

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 22, 2017, 07:47:36 AM
I love the way Davies draws in a foul, I haven't seen it back but I think he looked like he was on his way down before the contact took place?, I think that's why the refs pulled him up.
It was shame because that really took the wind out of his sails.

Just been back and rewatched it. From behind, I can see why it might have looked like that (and so possibly to the ref although he was close enough to see it). But from the other angle he wasn't going down, his right leg made contact with the defender and then his left leg twisted, moving his left boot from a landing position to a falling one. I guess you might argue that jerk wasn't entirely natural (only Tom would know I think) but it was definitely after the contact.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blueski on August 22, 2017, 10:08:04 AM
Thought that was bad officiating- there was contact but it did seem davies made a meal of it. If its seen that way its harsh to book the defender but equally harsh to book davies because there was real contact. Better to make it a no call if you see it that way unless you dont see the contact which seems unlikely
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 22, 2017, 10:40:40 AM
I'm afraid, despite the money we have spent, we are still clearly the 'best of the rest' unfortunately.

I want us to get to the stage where this is not a big result, but a disappointing one.
What a load of bollocks to say that after two games and getting a point at City ,never mind the fact that Gylfi wasn't ready . Idiot .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 22, 2017, 10:56:53 AM
i get city are a good team with quality players

we are Everton we also have quality players, we should never be happy getting played off the park no matter who it is

the way some of you go on you would think we was a sunday league team

i know we are not the best team in the league am not deluded

but we are more than capable, we smashed them 4-0 last season with 11 men

am not saying we should expect to beat everyone. there are better teams
but we need to shake this attitude of the moyes era of feeling lucky to get out alive (alot of you seem to still believe this)

before kick off a draw would have been a good result, but from a winning position with an extra man a draw feels like a loss to me, to me this feels worse than if we got beat 3-0, at the end of the season a point from this might feel like we did well, but we had it in our hands and it feels like we bottled it


First of all the word you should use is -were - the plural of was .
Of course we should be happy sometimes we got a point ,the system worked  and we got played off the park .
The 11 men last season were all settled in and not a team with a few new players plus you cannot say that it was
a normal result last season ,it was a true one off .
Lastly how many times did we play better with 10 men ? It is a psychological thing that concentrates the mind .
If it feels like a 3-0 then put that down in your diary and have a laugh at the season's  end
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 22, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
Thought that was bad officiating- there was contact but it did seem davies made a meal of it. If its seen that way its harsh to book the defender but equally harsh to book davies because there was real contact. Better to make it a no call if you see it that way unless you dont see the contact which seems unlikely
If that's the rule where was Agueros yellow for clutching his thigh when Schneids caught his foot, that's what I want to know. Inconsistent. I like Aguero but he is one of the worst for making a meal, and that's twice it's happened to Tom now, who for me is one of the least likely to play act. The shock on his face after both incidents looked pretty real I thought.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: MrWhite on August 22, 2017, 11:22:24 AM
First of all the word you should use is -were - the plural of was .
Of course we should be happy sometimes we got a point ,the system worked  and we got played off the park .
The 11 men last season were all settled in and not a team with a few new players plus you cannot say that it was
a normal result last season ,it was a true one off .
Lastly how many times did we play better with 10 men ? It is a psychological thing that concentrates the mind .
If it feels like a 3-0 then put that down in your diary and have a laugh at the season's  end
Also worth noting there is big difference between playing at home and playing away. We have yet to lose to Pep's City as well, bet few teams will be able to say that now yet alone by Christmas.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on August 22, 2017, 12:25:16 PM
Did we get played off the park really?

They were limited to precious few chances through a great team display and only managed to score with an absolute gift.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on August 22, 2017, 01:20:48 PM
Poor mistake from Holgate but he will learn. Good game otherwise.

I feel if we want to play with the big boys we should be able to keep possession a bit better against 10 men. They change formation after the red... so what. We should be exploiting heir weakness. Play keep ball. Make them run and chase it. But we invited them into us and from like 30 min to go we're just holding on. That gave them hope and emboldened them.

If he wanted to take Williams off he should of put Martina on and kept 3 at the back. We always look more open with a back four. The extra midfielder is lost and doesn't have the pace to catch up to players with pace. Thought Koeman made a mistake when I saw it.

Amazing how we create fewer chances but better ones when we play 3 at the back too.

Should of won easily tonight. Hope it doesn't cost us at the end of the season. We good enough, we just have to believe in ourselves as does our manager.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 22, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Hate the way the games going towards a virtually non contact sport, you can hardly make a challenge it's shite, neither should have gone off, ruins a game.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on August 22, 2017, 01:31:58 PM
I was sat at below ground level behind the goal in the second row so it was very hard to get any sense of what was happening of fittings fly on the pitch but my thoughts were that DCL and Jags were both very good and that the ref was poor for both teams. Great point.

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Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 22, 2017, 02:11:59 PM
the gulf in class was obvious last night, even against 10 men, but football is like that - we may play them at home, with the same teams, and we may look the far better side (as we did not so long ago). I thought when Koeman went to a back four we were going to let 1 or more in, he shoudnt have changed it imo, but taking a point in a game like that is ok, and its our second game in. We have to be a bit more patient, especially against the really good sides, we are slowly improving so keep the faith, things are on the up.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on August 22, 2017, 02:40:40 PM
We couldn't string beeds together under Koeman . For me that is why there appeared to be a gulf in class . Playing against 10 men is difficult when you don't keep hold of the ball , sit back and fail to realise the legs of your outlet up front have gone . As a result its fine because like people say its City away . I would swallow that if it wasn't for the fact that we have played 1 good half of football against a poor Hajduk . We have got 4 points though and i would take 8 from our first 5 games so lets see .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Gary1878 on August 22, 2017, 02:56:22 PM
Man City are without doubt the best attacking team in the Premier League. It was like watching the old Man Utd with Fergie in charge in their full pomp. Just wave after wave of attack and we did extremely well to resist it. Them having 10 men is almost irrelevant when you have the quality that they have.

I watched Girona v Atletico at the weekend, and Girona were 2-0 up playing really well and at home, with Atletico down to 10 and playing terribly. They came back to draw 2-2. Quality always outplays quantity.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 03:22:45 PM
I don't think we had the formation to take advantage of the man advantage at the beginning of the second half.

Credit to Koeman for trying to change it up, but it was fairly easily countered by City's substitutions and formation change. With hindsight - and it would very much be nitpicking - maybe bringing on Lookman/Mirallas to stretch the game and get another goal might have been better. Koeman was clearly trying to make it easier for us to keep the ball though, so you can't fault his logic. He was just let down a little by a lack of composure at the back at times, so Klaassen and Sigurdsson were never really in it.

In general though, it felt - even in the first half - that we were much more comfortable than the same fixture last season. Other than the goal, the only real chance they had to score was Silva's in the first half. Given how easily they dragged Baines and Jagielka out of position (a masterclass in movement and dropping off from City really), that's a great testament to how well organised Koeman has the defence.

Disappointing result given we were a goal and a man up, but sometimes you've just got to hold your hand up to a great opposition team.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: TSGun on August 22, 2017, 03:45:15 PM
Really happy with a point today despite circumstances.

Normally really positive but had this one down as a near certain defeat being in the middle of the cup ties.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on August 22, 2017, 04:18:09 PM
I don't think we had the formation to take advantage of the man advantage at the beginning of the second half.

Credit to Koeman for trying to change it up, but it was fairly easily countered by City's substitutions and formation change. With hindsight - and it would very much be nitpicking - maybe bringing on Lookman/Mirallas to stretch the game and get another goal might have been better. Koeman was clearly trying to make it easier for us to keep the ball though, so you can't fault his logic. He was just let down a little by a lack of composure at the back at times, so Klaassen and Sigurdsson were never really in it.

In general though, it felt - even in the first half - that we were much more comfortable than the same fixture last season. Other than the goal, the only real chance they had to score was Silva's in the first half. Given how easily they dragged Baines and Jagielka out of position (a masterclass in movement and dropping off from City really), that's a great testament to how well organised Koeman has the defence.

Disappointing result given we were a goal and a man up, but sometimes you've just got to hold your hand up to a great opposition team.

I don't disagree but to some extent our passing under Koeman is shite and it if wasn't for Ganas recovery of the ball I seriously think we would be fucked . We are easily pressed even by teams like Stoke because the pace of our game is poor ( hence the slow starts ) and that won't really be improved by the players we have bought . Doing well with a team set up for the counter who everyone thinks will fade by the seasons end in Southampton and getting Everton to the next level are worlds apart . Getting us to 7th is the minimum . Still next game on Thursday and City will after all rip better teams than us a new one .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 04:25:38 PM
I don't disagree but to some extent our passing under Koeman is shite and it if wasn't for Ganas recovery of the ball I seriously think we would be fucked . We are easily pressed even by teams like Stoke because the pace of our game is poor ( hence the slow starts ) and that won't really be improved by the players we have bought . Doing well with a team set up for the counter who everyone thinks will fade by the seasons end in Southampton and getting Everton to the next level are worlds apart . Getting us to 7th is the minimum . Still next game on Thursday and City will after all rip better teams than us a new one .

You've got a point to be fair. We still seem incapable of manipulating the ball for long periods, which has to be a huge flaw in our game if we can't do it over a year into Koeman's reign.
I do worry Koeman has become so obsessed in getting players in who have a record of good stats (goals and assists) that he kind of just hopes they'll all click together, without identifying a clear system and way of playing and bringing players in to suit.

However we've played 5 and haven't lost yet so let's have this discussion this time next week and see where we're at.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
I don't disagree but to some extent our passing under Koeman is shite and it if wasn't for Ganas recovery of the ball I seriously think we would be fucked . We are easily pressed even by teams like Stoke because the pace of our game is poor ( hence the slow starts ) and that won't really be improved by the players we have bought . Doing well with a team set up for the counter who everyone thinks will fade by the seasons end in Southampton and getting Everton to the next level are worlds apart . Getting us to 7th is the minimum . Still next game on Thursday and City will after all rip better teams than us a new one .

I'm not quite at the end of the scale that you are, but we are pressed into traps very very easily.

Around the back four we seem to pass it in a straight line until it ends up at like Jags left foot, no option, hit it long.

Also anyone who thinks Keane is a ball playing centre back is off their heads. He looks good and he looks quite comfortable but his passing looks about the same as Williams or Jags to me tbh.

This is why Schneiderlin is so important, and why I don't want Rooney isolated up front. With those two we have at least two passers who can receive st different angles and keep the ball moving. Gueye has impressed me and I think he's a better passer than I have him credit for but Schneiderlin and Rooney are streets ahead of anyone in the side.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 05:33:42 PM
Also anyone who thinks Keane is a ball playing centre back is off their heads. He looks good and he looks quite comfortable but his passing looks about the same as Williams or Jags to me tbh.
His passing is really hit and miss, isn't it.

He's not a ball playing centre back in the composed, passing it on the deck and dictating play style that John Stones might be.

He looks to be pretty good at lofted passes though, which I think will help against teams that sit back against us.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on August 22, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
You've got a point to be fair. We still seem incapable of manipulating the ball for long periods, which has to be a huge flaw in our game if we can't do it over a year into Koeman's reign.
I do worry Koeman has become so obsessed in getting players in who have a record of good stats (goals and assists) that he kind of just hopes they'll all click together, without identifying a clear system and way of playing and bringing players in to suit.

However we've played 5 and haven't lost yet so let's have this discussion this time next week and see where we're at.

Like i said it was a result that plenty won't get . I am more concerned on a personal and not club note that we are boring as fuck to watch at the minute . I don't ever like not giving Managers time ( as you know from my defence off he whose name is unspeakable in these parts ) but I do like moaning about them . Credit for the results and the footing he and Moshiri are putting the club on but at the minute its like having an ugly wife with one great tit and expecting the rest to catch up .
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 22, 2017, 06:00:31 PM
It's hard to judge the team in the 5 games we have played. I mean, 3 of those games have been against 10 man defences and 1 against a 10 man attack :). I think we need to hold fire with the beatstick just yet, and hopefully do a bit more business in the final week of the transfer window, and get through the next few tough games and then judge the team after the next few months and into the January window. Its a bit too early for panic stations...
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
Like i said it was a result that plenty won't get . I am more concerned on a personal and not club note that we are boring as fuck to watch at the minute . I don't ever like not giving Managers time ( as you know from my defence off he whose name is unspeakable in these parts ) but I do like moaning about them . Credit for the results and the footing he and Moshiri are putting the club on but at the minute its like having an ugly wife with one great tit and expecting the rest to catch up .

The first half against Hadjuk Split was one of the most enjoyable 45 minutes of football I've seen since the second half of the City game last season. It's not that we don't play good football it's that we don't do it often enough.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on August 22, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
I think Keane is a good ball-playing CB personally but City identified that, pressed him much more, and were quite happy for Jags and Williams to have the ball.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on August 22, 2017, 06:21:01 PM
I think it's a bit rich of people to complain about us changing to 4 from 5 at the back, when for the last several months people have been on his back for going with 5 instead of 4.

Hindsight is 20 20, but at the time I'll admit I thought it was the right move. We weren't doing enough to exploit the additional man, we were creating virtually no chances at the start of the second half. The gamble was that the additional man in midfield would help us create more and open up a 2 goal lead, rather than sitting back and hoping we would hold out.

Sadly it didn't pay off but I'd rather us make those types of more attacking gamble, rather than be a team that sits on a 1-0 lead for 60 minutes.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on August 22, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
I don't ever like not giving Managers time ( as you know from my defence off he whose name is unspeakable in these parts ) but I do like moaning about them .
Take a like and a cool for this.

Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on August 23, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
Two positives for the future for me: Calvert Lewin is going to be a top player and Holgate has learned a lesson he won't forget. The negative (huge) is the result and attitude. I've forgiven games like that for 40 years cos we were what we were, but that wasn't what I expected from a team I hoped might challenge for the top places. Disappointed to say the least.

Yeah, felt the same way for about an hour til I got to the alehouse where everyone who watched it thought we did great and will be a tough team to beat from here on in. Was surprised as I thought we'd looked terrible in the second half and should never have conceded.
Goes to show difference between the pub neutral & the rabid fan sat watching the game with the dog.
Oh, and Besic is a nutcase & Aguero is a twat.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on August 23, 2017, 01:51:48 AM
Like i said it was a result that plenty won't get . I am more concerned on a personal and not club note that we are boring as fuck to watch at the minute . I don't ever like not giving Managers time ( as you know from my defence off he whose name is unspeakable in these parts ) but I do like moaning about them . Credit for the results and the footing he and Moshiri are putting the club on but at the minute its like having an ugly wife with one great tit and expecting the rest to catch up .
Thing is we aren't under the pressure we were with him who is unspeakable about, Koeman say's it's a 3 year project so he has 3 years and we may or not want to bother with him any further, it's up to him now to decide how to play the players he wanted in a system that works, or we and him can move on, maybe we can use someone as a stepping stone instead off us being used as one, what a refreshing change that would be.... 
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 23, 2017, 06:43:32 AM
What a load of bollocks to say that after two games and getting a point at City ,never mind the fact that Gylfi wasn't ready . Idiot .

Clearly you didn't watch the game, nobber. The gulf in class was obvious to anyone but an imbecile.
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on August 24, 2017, 05:10:18 PM
Clearly you didn't watch the game, nobber. The gulf in class was obvious to anyone but an imbecile.
You have a way with words ,for a  tosser ! Sadly ,for your information I did indeed watch the match but I don't suffer from the blinkered outlook that tossers do .Yes there was a difference in class on the night but we are still gelling and we are two fucking games into the season ,so the imbecilic comment seems to me a little wide of the mark .Please don't reply or you will get me banned as I rise to the bait of tossers like you
Title: Re: Man City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on August 29, 2017, 07:10:04 PM
You have a way with words ,for a  tosser ! Sadly ,for your information I did indeed watch the match but I don't suffer from the blinkered outlook that tossers do .Yes there was a difference in class on the night but we are still gelling and we are two fucking games into the season ,so the imbecilic comment seems to me a little wide of the mark .Please don't reply or you will get me banned as I rise to the bait of tossers like you

So, post Chelsea...any further thoughts?

I'll keep asking after we get out classed by every other top 6 team until your slow brain catches up.

Right now, we are still the best of the rest unfortunately, miles away from where we should hope to be.

(Nobber)