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Title: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 27, 2017, 03:31:13 AM
Palace or The Hammers?
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Goaljira on August 27, 2017, 04:17:16 AM
Sky reporting Bilic's position is under review.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 27, 2017, 05:04:43 AM
Sides that have sacked Allardyce have all regretted it I would suggest.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: hill135 on August 27, 2017, 05:42:51 AM
Just had a read on a Palace forum and there is already significant calls for FDB's head. Not many sticking up for him.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: claimabstract on August 27, 2017, 05:55:30 AM
Watched the game earlier today and Palace looked like they were running around with their heads cut off. De Boer isnt doing too well, is he? Having said that, Id bet that Bilic gets told to go sooner.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: 74Blue on August 27, 2017, 01:35:15 PM
It's absolute madness that three games into a new season a manager's position could potentially be "under review".
I think that a manager has to be given at least 10-12 games before the trigger is pulled. Three games is nothing over the course of a season.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Cozzie on August 27, 2017, 03:13:38 PM
Bilic for me.

The owners of West Ham don't have a clue.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: claimabstract on August 27, 2017, 06:45:48 PM
It's absolute madness that three games into a new season a manager's position could potentially be "under review".
I think that a manager has to be given at least 10-12 games before the trigger is pulled. Three games is nothing over the course of a season.

Bilic has been there for a while, and last season was quite underwhelming for West Ham. They might have given him another chance this season, but started losing patience with three defeats in a row.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Mac934 on August 27, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
Bilic for me, can't see Palace binning FDB just yet.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: TheTone on August 27, 2017, 10:53:19 PM
throw Wenger in the hat too
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: velimski on August 28, 2017, 12:01:45 AM
throw Wenger in the hat too

He'll never be sacked. He runs the show at Arsenal.

When he does eventually go, he'll resign.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: blargins on August 28, 2017, 04:22:02 AM
Reading the Everton Only forum today, I'd put money on Koeman.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on August 28, 2017, 04:42:39 AM
Bilic, sacked tomorrow
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Tony Clifton on August 28, 2017, 05:22:43 AM
He'll never be sacked. He runs the show at Arsenal.

When he does eventually go, he'll resign.

Sad to see Wenger today, 1-0 down, shaking pretty badly as he was taking a drink of water.  Looks a healthy enough fella for his age, but whatever that shaking was about can't be good for you.

As for Bilic, well, managing the WHUMs can't be good for that hair transplant.  Got the top-up sorted with his sack pay though.

Can that bad Father Ted tribute act AKA Mark Hughes please fuck off before the season's out too, please?  Take a job in the Congo or somewhere, Sparky lad.

Fucking football.  ;)
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Lxxx on August 29, 2017, 04:41:37 AM
He'll never be sacked. He runs the show at Arsenal.

When he does eventually go, he'll resign.

He'll write himself a nice little hand-written letter with a lovely fountain pen, informing himself why he's leaving. Then send a copy to the board a few days after, out of courtesy, to keep them in the picture.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 04, 2017, 04:36:31 AM
Palace or The Hammers?

Does it only include sackings, or can we count resignations? If we are then the fat Spanish one might walk, seems pretty miffed with transfers and has form for acting the dick with owners, if he quickly concludes that just staying up will be a real problem he might jump to avoid being left with the blame.

Other than that I think Bilic too, he should get a little leeway with them playing all away games to start, but if he doesn't start getting results the fickle owners won't be too patient given the money spent and the quality of players now in their squad. On paper they should be a top half team now I think? Palace are trying to evolve from relegation scrappers to mid table runners, so I'd expect them to allow more time for FdB to change the style of play, etc. Plus I don't think Steve Parish is particularly knee jerk - often seems to keep faith with his chosen manager (bit like our Bill in that respect?) and seems to lose them by pissing them off as often as sacking them?

If I was going to bet, Bilic before mid November would get my money.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Bluedylan on September 04, 2017, 04:39:42 AM
De Boer
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 04, 2017, 04:52:17 AM
Sides that have sacked Allardyce have all regretted it I would suggest.

Yep, must be extremely irritating to spend millions buying off your manager, only to end up with even worse results. But it's also arguable that the ones who have sacked him have universally been judged to be club-fucking rich idiots.

Blackpool - sacked by Owen Oyston (while he was in prison!) who has since raped the club for their PL windfall
Newcastle - sacked by Mike Ashley (lovely chap isn't he) the footballing genius beloved by the Toon
Blackburn - sacked by chicken choppers who have since plunged the club into lower league hell
England - ok, they don't have 'owners', but the FA are pretty much the definition rich idiots who are happy to fuck over any club and all fans everywhere?

West Ham is borderline, since he wasn't sacked, his contract just wasn't renewed. He may have refused to stay if offered a new one, but even if you count that as a sacking then the 'rich idiot owners' clause still applies. For technical definitions of 'sacking' please refer to the "Jeremy Clarkson Wasn't Sacked" interpretation of business practice  :cheers:

@SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) - great thread, but I have to ask how you win a race without automatically also coming first?  :tongue:
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Gash on September 04, 2017, 05:11:59 AM
De Boer

Caught the last few minutes of the Sunday Suppliment and they reckon he might even be away before the international break is over.

Huge admission of failure by the board if they do that three games into the season.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 04, 2017, 05:13:29 AM
Gutted
I was gonna do palace to go down but got talked out if it
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 04, 2017, 10:55:24 AM
@SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) - great thread, but I have to ask how you win a race without automatically also coming first?  :tongue:

Like this because the only reason I've stayed out of this thread was the title annoying me, now I don't feel so bad about it lolol
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 04, 2017, 06:57:15 PM
Does it only include sackings, or can we count resignations? If we are then the fat Spanish one might walk, seems pretty miffed with transfers and has form for acting the dick with owners, if he quickly concludes that just staying up will be a real problem he might jump to avoid being left with the blame.

Other than that I think Bilic too, he should get a little leeway with them playing all away games to start, but if he doesn't start getting results the fickle owners won't be too patient given the money spent and the quality of players now in their squad. On paper they should be a top half team now I think? Palace are trying to evolve from relegation scrappers to mid table runners, so I'd expect them to allow more time for FdB to change the style of play, etc. Plus I don't think Steve Parish is particularly knee jerk - often seems to keep faith with his chosen manager (bit like our Bill in that respect?) and seems to lose them by pissing them off as often as sacking them?

If I was going to bet, Bilic before mid November would get my money.


i would to win a sack race your need to get sacked :p

even tho your correct i can see the spanish waiter resigning soon..

i think Do Boer will be sacked first.. he has the players but the wrong tactics i feel.

lol its an inverted race, the first one to get sacked wins :p so i guess its not last.. lol

i dont know i think your question confuszled me :p
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 04, 2017, 07:06:34 PM

i would to win a sack race your need to get sacked :p

even tho your correct i can see the spanish waiter resigning soon..

i think Do Boer will be sacked first.. he has the players but the wrong tactics i feel.

lol its an inverted race, the first one to get sacked wins :p so i guess its not last.. lol

i dont know i think your question confuszled me :p

You only needed to say either of:

"Who is going to win the sack race?" (because by default winning the sack race means you were the first sacked)
or
"Who will be sacked first?"

What you said just doesn't need the last word, I'm not always pedantic but in a thread title you see the oddity over and over again ;D
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: gizzblue on September 04, 2017, 07:19:26 PM
I've got a tenner on Bilic on fours ☺
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 04, 2017, 11:09:54 PM
not sure what happened. fat finger syndrome i think, most of the first sentence got deleted lulz

'i would to win'

dafuq almost as bad as winning a sack race first!
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Toffee1 on September 11, 2017, 05:29:24 PM
Looks like @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) and @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573)  called it right as it is being reported that De Boer has been sacked and will be replced by Roy Hodgson.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: hill135 on September 11, 2017, 05:36:30 PM
It's official, he's gone.

Should have put a bet on but my bookie of choice didn't have a market.

I remember I wanted him when we were looking for Roberto's successor. He looks fairly shite tbf.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 05:38:52 PM
Not necessarily the wrong decision in the longer term, yet it's pathetic to be deciding to sack the manager 4 games in shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 11, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
My mate gave me treble the odds on palace going down yday

Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: hill135 on September 11, 2017, 05:43:50 PM
Not necessarily the wrong decision in the longer term, yet it's pathetic to be deciding to sack the manager 4 games in shakeyheadman

Shortest managerial reign in Prem history
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: claimabstract on September 11, 2017, 05:49:57 PM
So De Boer wins (/loses).
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: arteta4spain on September 11, 2017, 05:55:46 PM
Seems harsh but at the same time if the palace fans/owners see them every week and maybe the players have had concerns from the start even before the season started. To have Hodgson in the frame so quickly something's gone clearly wrong behind the scenes here.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Shogun on September 11, 2017, 06:35:40 PM
Ridiculous tbh.

They played well yesterday.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jamokachi on September 11, 2017, 06:37:58 PM
madness
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 11, 2017, 06:38:01 PM
Palace thanked him for his dedication

Piss-taking bastards
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on September 11, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
Bilic will be next if West Ham lose tonight
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Gash on September 11, 2017, 06:46:00 PM
Don't know what's worse, sacking him or replacing him with Hodgson.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Major Clanger on September 11, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
Don't know what's worse, sacking him or replacing him with Hodgson.

De Boer's appointment, sacking and replacement all scream "we're shit at this"

Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: GLewis on September 11, 2017, 07:08:34 PM
Yes, he might be completely rubbish (and that would be tbe only justification for sacking someone so soon after you've tasked them with changing how you play) but if that is the case then the board are just as much to blame.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 11, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
They'd have won that game comfortably yesterday had Scott Dann and Benteke not shit themselves in front of goal. That miss by Dann was criminal.

Two "fairly decent" strikers on the pitch in Benteke and Zaha yet neither have managed a goal in five games. Shit.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on September 11, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
Tim Sherwood has spoken - "It didn't work because De Boer is to good for Palace"
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 08:11:09 PM
crazyness, way too soon.

we should go double dutch, appoint De Boer alongside koeman, one for the defensive boring bullshit and one for the slick ajax style passing..

Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Gash on September 11, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
De Boer's appointment, sacking and replacement all scream "we're shit at this"

Yet it's not like they haven't had plenty practice.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: ally2 on September 11, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
Yeah the palace board should have written an open letter to the fans - "we tried to be a progressive football club but it took 4 games for us to lose our nerve. Please keep coming to support us though."
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 11, 2017, 10:53:38 PM
Two "fairly decent" strikers on the pitch in Benteke and Zaha yet neither have managed a goal in five games. Shit.

Zaha's been out since the first game, big miss for them
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 11, 2017, 11:32:39 PM
Zaha's been out since the first game, big miss for them

I thought I heard his name mentioned yesterday during commentary (I was only listening on the radio whilst in the kitchen mind)
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Gash on September 12, 2017, 01:09:10 AM
I'm not saying De Boer would have been a success but it's the constant sacking of these young up and coming managers that keep old dinosaur firefighters like Allardyce, Redknapp, Hodgson and Warnock in a job.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 12, 2017, 05:57:24 AM
So De Boer wins (/loses).

First.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jamokachi on September 12, 2017, 08:05:17 AM
we should go double dutch, appoint De Boer alongside koeman, one for the defensive boring bullshit and one for the slick ajax style passing..

That's a fallacy though. He was actually really unpopular at Ajax because his style of play wasn't the 'Ajax way'. He's more van Gaal than Cruyff, as his reputation would suggest.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 12, 2017, 05:28:33 PM
That's a fallacy though. He was actually really unpopular at Ajax because his style of play wasn't the 'Ajax way'. He's more van Gaal than Cruyff, as his reputation would suggest.


Sorry, was basing it off of how Palace have played as a team and created attacks..hence my double dutch comment.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Brownie20 on September 13, 2017, 12:08:59 AM
I know it's different being a manager but imagine being De Boer and having to justify yourself to Dougie Freedman
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
I know it's different being a manager but imagine being De Boer and having to justify yourself to Dougie Freedman

when i read that on teletext this morning, i thought of Dougie Freedman the ex wolves striker... to my surprise.. its the same fucking dude,

how the hell did he become a sporting director. And i feel sorry for De Boer, hes a billion times the player Freedman was, lulz at having to explain yourself to a shit footballer who is now a sporting director.

 :headbang: lolol
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Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 13, 2017, 01:20:48 AM
when i read that on teletext this morning

HELP!!! I've been teleported back to the '90s!
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 01:25:03 AM
HELP!!! I've been teleported back to the '90s!


lol I check bbc teletext every morning whilst having brekky :p
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 13, 2017, 01:28:35 AM

lol I check bbc teletext every morning whilst having brekky :p

Wow. I honestly thought you were making some kind of joke, the aussie equivalent got turned off shortly after the changeover to digital TV broadcasting!
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 01:31:09 AM
Wow. I honestly thought you were making some kind of joke, the aussie equivalent got turned off shortly after the changeover to digital TV broadcasting!

they did turn off the analogue teletext, not sure when, think it was 2005 or something,.

but you can still get digital teletext, bbc is the only station that does it tho...  like reading whilst news is on on the tv.. lol or reading whilst the weather news is on..

Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 16, 2017, 09:35:22 PM
they did turn off the analogue teletext, not sure when, think it was 2005 or something,.

but you can still get digital teletext, bbc is the only station that does it tho...  like reading whilst news is on on the tv.. lol or reading whilst the weather news is on..

2012, when Northern Ireland switched over to digital, was the end of Ceefax (the BBC version). Teletext as such still technically exists, although the full service has long since disappeared. Ironically, Teletext Holidays is still going strong!
Technically, the current BBC service is BBC Red Button. Even that has been scaled back from what it used to be, although it's still popular amongst footy fans.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 16, 2017, 09:35:45 PM
More importantly, who is going to win the sack race second?
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 16, 2017, 09:37:03 PM
More importantly, who is going to win the sack race second?


I'm going to stick my neck out and say Koeman will finish second.. cant see Hodgson being sacked, or Bilic atm..
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 16, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
It creates a comical image, the thought of 20 highly paid managers all having a race on a playing field in sacks, doesn't it? Wonder who would lose that?
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 16, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
lol, should ask the fa to incorporate it into the season..

like a play off for the 18th place team. they get to play the manager that finishes last in the sack race..

Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 16, 2017, 09:47:50 PM
Mourinho would probably finish last, as he would feel he is to good to take part an he would moan his sack wasnt a high enough standard for him.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: MrWhite on September 16, 2017, 10:26:22 PM
Mourinho would probably finish last, as he would feel he is to good to take part an he would moan his sack wasnt a high enough standard for him.

Followed by winning in his second season, before an irritated owner took the sack back.

The Fat Spanish One wouldn't do too well.  :evil:
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 09:32:38 PM
Leicester sack Shakespeare
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Mac934 on October 17, 2017, 09:52:52 PM
Leicester sack Shakespeare
It's not on BBC Sports page, where has it mentioned that?
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 17, 2017, 09:53:49 PM
It's not on BBC Sports page, where has it mentioned that?
Sky sports
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
All over the twitter machine on the world wide web, various news reporting it
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Gash on October 17, 2017, 10:06:30 PM
Fairytale my arse, the sooner they're relegated the better.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 10:13:52 PM
Allardyce odds on the take over
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/920300918280736768
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Mac934 on October 17, 2017, 10:33:55 PM
Sky sports
In Abu Dhabi can't get Sky, on BBC now though, thanks.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 18, 2017, 12:38:43 AM
Bookies are buzzing with that one, been taking decent wagers on Koeman for weeks now.  Bastards.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 18, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
Allardyce odds on the take over

Allardyce is linked with every managerial job going at the mo, whether it be in football or Tesco Extra.

Hes a fuckin fat fraud.
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: blueToffee on October 18, 2017, 01:14:09 AM
Allardyce is linked with every managerial job going at the mo, whether it be in football or Tesco Extra.

Hes a fuckin fat fraud.

Nah, he's decent at what he does.

He'd probably do a decent job for Scotland if he took that job. He's a better manager than Southgate (although that's presently a pretty low bar).
Title: Re: Who's going to win the sack race first?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 06:04:53 AM
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/920300918280736768
Paddy Power have some class Billboard adverts and tweets.