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Title: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2017, 07:12:08 PM
Felt like he was a main striker with all the hype when we were signing him.

Being talked about all across the shop - CF, winger, #10

I liked how he and Rooney switched sides against Sevilla - he seems to have good movement.

And with him and DCL I do feel we have pace upfront - not absolutely electric - but not too shabby either.

How would you play him?


Also - bonus question:

When is he back from injury?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheTone on September 01, 2017, 07:14:53 PM
a sexy bastard who runs around and falls over a lot so far
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: everton1952 on September 01, 2017, 07:21:41 PM
Tell him to score goals and if that does not happen get shut.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 01, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
Very promising player who I hope gets up to speed with the team and communicating with some English ASAP. Doubt we'll know his best position for a good while yet.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 01, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
A 2nd striker, that would play very well off a muscular target man striker, like a Giroud, Das Boot, Dzjeko, etc.... if we had fecking got one ;).

I guess we should play him, Rooney and DCL together, so we have options. He has got a bit of pace, so with him and DCL we shouldnt be pushed right back down the pitch as we have been against better clubs, but unless he is given a run of games, we wont quite know what to expect.

--------- Pickford

RB --- CB --- CB --- LB

--- Gana -- Schneids

------- Sig'n ------------

Rooney --------- Sandro
---------- DCL -----------


You would expect Sandro to be running all over the place, pulling defenders everywhere, whilst DCL does a similar thing but is more of a focal point and Sigurdsson and Rooney are running the show just behind them, whilst Gana and Schniederlin shield but also try and pick out runs. That is assuming we arent as static as we have been. With Coleman back in a few weeks, and assuming we keep our core players fit, we actually have a decent side - but we need to do a lot more training of movement, passes into space, coming for and receiving the ball - we need a much faster paced, dynamic play style, much like the second half of the 2nd game against Rumbelows in Europa when Sandro came off the bench, more urgency from mid to top. The good thing about fucking up getting a striker this window, is that we can now (you would think/hope) carefully and meticulously find the right man, and do a deal for a top striker that would fit right in, early in January. Hopefully.

Positivity!
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2017, 07:30:18 PM
The best player I have ever seen.  Try to keep up!

In all seriousness, he seems like he plays best alongside Rooney where they both can move around interchangeably.  Would like to see him more in the lone striker role up top when DCL is getting a breather, as well.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 01, 2017, 08:03:45 PM
Smouldering.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: hill135 on September 01, 2017, 08:11:35 PM
The illegitimate son of Roberto Martinez?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 01, 2017, 08:14:38 PM
Son? You mean brother, who knows a good passport faker? :D

Between him, Rooney and Klaassen, we wont be doing any red shite style shampoo adverts lol :) Never mind wash and go, its more wash and went :D
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2017, 08:22:10 PM
Felt like he was a main striker with all the hype when we were signing him.

Being talked about all across the shop - CF, winger, #10

I liked how he and Rooney switched sides against Sevilla - he seems to have good movement.

And with him and DCL I do feel we have pace upfront - not absolutely electric - but not too shabby either.

How would you play him?


Also - bonus question:

When is he back from injury?

His interchangeability will be key I think, once he's up to speed he should be able to switch across the front line. Don't think he can play up front on his own from what we've seen, at least not against teams who will limit our chances and leave him isolated. Maybe he'll get better at that with time though.

Bonus answer - last Sunday?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2017, 08:47:36 PM
I think the hope is - and I will be super annoyed if not the case - we didn't set him back by foolishly throwing him on the pitch unfit at Stamford Bridge.

Spurs at home, rested, is a very winnable match.  But we need a fit Sandro to do so.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: bigac on September 01, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
Our saviour! (praying)  :hail:
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Tofifee on September 01, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
What is Sandro you ask...

Je Suis Sandro
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2017, 09:19:29 PM

Bonus answer - last Sunday?

Ha! Thanks

I missed that game and there wasn't a player ratings thread so I sort of missed the comeback (I was at TWO weddings that weekend - madness!)
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
Ha! Thanks

I missed that game and there wasn't a player ratings thread so I sort of missed the comeback (I was at TWO weddings that weekend - madness!)

1) You really didn't miss much. ESPNFC gave every starter a 5, our madman Mo a 6, DCL a 7 (their Everton correspondent is properly in love with DCL).  It was fucking dire.

2) Stop having so many friends, FFS.  Or have friends with the courtesy to get married on international breaks.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on September 01, 2017, 09:39:04 PM
a decent player who's either unfit due to an injury or who needs some time to get up to speed for the premier league

thought he looked ok for about 15 minutes of the Chelsea game and was absolutely dire after that
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 01, 2017, 09:51:30 PM
Sexy.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: hill135 on September 01, 2017, 09:54:18 PM
In dire need of a hair transplant
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on September 01, 2017, 09:56:23 PM
A freedom fighter sent back in time to protect mankind from the rise of the machines
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2017, 10:24:39 PM
Ha! Thanks

I missed that game and there wasn't a player ratings thread so I sort of missed the comeback (I was at TWO weddings that weekend - madness!)

Yeah, it was called False Dawns and the Stark of Realisation or something like that.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Realist on September 01, 2017, 10:30:33 PM
An average footballer? Another number 10?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2017, 10:46:45 PM
A freedom fighter sent back in time to protect mankind from the rise of the machines

That suggests that someone at Everton is a cyborg? Is the Ross Barkley affair about trying to protect him from the infiltrator?

Maybe Rooney, he always looked suspiciously older for his age, we know he has hair implants.. maybe he was sent back too early? They packed him off back then, but he managed to return this summer so the club had to hide Ross!
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Everton Mint on September 01, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
14 goals in 30 games last season for Malaga in La Liga makes him a striker for me.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2017, 10:57:34 PM
14 goals in 30 games last season for Malaga in La Liga makes him a striker for me.

It's possible that he just had the season of his life, but even if that's the case for £5.3m that's a very good punt to take in today's market. Certainly bought to provide 10+ goals, RK sees him as a striker.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on September 01, 2017, 11:46:47 PM
That suggests that someone at Everton is a cyborg? Is the Ross Barkley affair about trying to protect him from the infiltrator?

Maybe Rooney, he always looked suspiciously older for his age, we know he has hair implants.. maybe he was sent back too early? They packed him off back then, but he managed to return this summer so the club had to hide Ross!

Obviously it's them lot from across the park
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 02, 2017, 12:03:55 AM
Sandro is an  attacker who likes to drop off, or play from deeper alongside a big target man.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 02, 2017, 12:22:21 AM
Obviously it's them lot from across the park
What most people don't know is that in the original timeline Liverpool were a part time outfit and Everton had 32 titles, 8 European cups and the League cup was permanently renamed the Everton Cup in honour of our fifty wins. Until a traumatised red software engineer decided to destroy the world. In that timeline of course the Korean war never happened and Donald Trump was a much beloved comedian. Damn kopites.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on September 02, 2017, 12:24:23 AM
What most people don't know is that in the original timeline Liverpool were a part time outfit and Everton had 32 titles, 8 European cups and the League cup was permanently renamed the Everton Cup in honour of our fifty wins. Until a traumatised red software engineer decided to destroy the world. In that timeline of course the Korean war never happened and Donald Trump was a much beloved comedian. Damn kopites.

I'd pay to see this film - provided there was a happy ending
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Realist on September 02, 2017, 01:15:29 AM
Sandro is an  attacker who likes to drop off, or play from deeper alongside a big target man.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: ally2 on September 02, 2017, 01:54:36 AM
Depends which 45 minutes of play for us you decide to judge him on
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 02, 2017, 03:39:40 AM
I'd pay to see this film - provided there was a happy ending
You mean the one where the blue wearing hero fixes time, there's a big shimmer where Anfield shrinks to a bus stop next to a muddy field, and Goodison swells to a massive world class 150,000 seater?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Trowel on September 02, 2017, 04:23:04 AM
He reminds me of a young Andy Johnson, before Moyes turned him into a...  wing back or something.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 02, 2017, 04:23:19 AM
An average footballer? Another number 10?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170901/7635fb3392dcadbf4a0898dc474ad6e6.jpg)
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 02, 2017, 04:25:35 AM
Looks like a decent player in the making ....bearing in mind he's 21 ...in a new team ,in a new country with a disjointed squad . . But I still rekon he will shine .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 02, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
sorry for being a cunt, but he's 22 :p
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 02, 2017, 04:54:35 AM
sorry for being a cunt, but he's 22
Cunts a bit harsh ...

Twat😛

Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 02, 2017, 06:14:33 AM
your welcome. JizzBlue lol
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 02, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
^^^^pahahahahaha projectile cocoa thanks for that 😅
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: BlueForYou on September 02, 2017, 08:51:19 PM
Head down, quick off the mark, looks for the ball, makes space........................ .................and scores goals(?)!

A target man would help his cause


Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 02, 2017, 09:00:57 PM
Hasn't done much so far, I'll give him time tho
Looks like he could with someone alongside him too
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 25, 2017, 06:38:49 PM
I'm sure I've seen glimpses of a potentially great player for us here - movement, pace, fast feet, control.

I'm convinced that getting a run in the side will allow him to adjust and then blossom into the PL.

Am I fooling myself here - does anyone else see it?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: MrWhite on September 25, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
I see it. He just needs that breakthrough moment to give him confidence.

Here's to hoping it's soon.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
I think the main issue with Sandro (and our other attackers is)

We are set up way to deep. The attackers the midfielders (sometimes the defense as well) all play on top of each other.

Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 25, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
I think the main issue with Sandro (and our other attackers is)

We are set up way to deep. The attackers the midfielders (sometimes the defense as well) all play on top of each other.
It's mostly Rooney fucking ass blocking the runs of others 😅😅
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 25, 2017, 09:38:10 PM
I think the main issue with Sandro (and our other attackers is)

We are set up way to deep. The attackers the midfielders (sometimes the defense as well) all play on top of each other.




But he hasn't shown much yet but I still rate him for some reason. What I'm asking is do people think he'll be good in this league or am I kidding myself?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on September 25, 2017, 10:00:50 PM

But he hasn't shown much yet but I still rate him for some reason. What I'm asking is do people think he'll be good in this league or am I kidding myself?

Contrary to belief, its completely normal not to write off a player after about 100 mins of football. I'm with you bud.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
I think he's potentially trying too hard. My only real criticism is his shooting has appeared pretty erratic, which I'll be honest I don't like to see in a striker. That chance he had versus Chelsea being the most eyebrow raising. It's very early days though, hope we see more of him this Thursday. Who we pair him with is going to be crucial too, as I think he needs movement around him, for example I did like his ball to DCL for the assist the other day versus Sunderland, that sort of thing gives me patience and confidence there is a player there.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 10:19:07 PM

But he hasn't shown much yet but I still rate him for some reason. What I'm asking is do people think he'll be good in this league or am I kidding myself?

I think he will become good., but he needs to be starting and staying further up the pitch, i dont expect him to do much if he's spending time tracking back into the left back slot.. I think we will see the best of him. if he plays along side DCL or Niasse in a 2..
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on September 25, 2017, 11:13:40 PM
You could well say all out attackers have been crap aside Rooney and Niasse but I do think Sandro will find his feet and start begging goals ...no problem.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Gary1878 on September 25, 2017, 11:18:19 PM
He needs to play on Thursday at some point to give him minutes. As this is a must win game for us, not sure he should start though.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: everton1952 on September 25, 2017, 11:22:49 PM
Put him on when we are 3-0 up.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Realist on September 26, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
The least technical player ever produced from La Masia
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 26, 2017, 01:33:37 AM
The least technical player ever produced from La Masia

Mr negative about everything. Do you bash your children and grandchildren as much as you do Everton and players?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Realist on September 26, 2017, 02:49:12 AM
Mr negative about everything. Do you bash your children and grandchildren as much as you do Everton and players?

I'm not negative about everything 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on September 26, 2017, 03:03:15 AM
seems like he needs some time behind closed doors to develop in training

seems a decent player for a slower less physical league - he's actually been pretty good for the first 5-15 minutes of each of his appearances thus far which says to me he's short of the level of fitness required to play in the pace and physicality of the PL. Hes miles more technically competent than Niasse but the difference in effectiveness says it all for technique without pace and strength in this league when you are playing as a 9.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 03:06:37 AM
Think our lack of options is doing him and Klaassen a few favours at the minute.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 26, 2017, 03:22:25 AM
Still got hope for him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2017, 06:33:33 PM
The least technical player ever produced from La Masia

You see the bits that make me think he will come good is how good he has been technically.

There have been a couple of times carrying the ball forward he has moved it from left to right foot with such speed and grace that I've been desperate to see more of him.

Let's give him a run alongside DCL. If it was me I'd tell him he's in for the next 6 games but if he doesn't show enough then he'll have hard work to force his way back in again.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Lxxx on September 26, 2017, 07:32:39 PM
He's suffering from the fact we don't really have a position for him. He'd probably look pretty good in a free flowing side where he can float across the front. The issue we have is we aren't free flowing and we don't really have a flexible formation.
Which is my main gripe with Koeman. He doesn't seem to produce the type of football you want to watch and players look like they enjoy playing in. 
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2017, 05:08:24 AM
Thought he was alright today, grew into the game.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Macca77 on September 29, 2017, 05:10:30 AM
Feel sorry for him
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Lxxx on September 29, 2017, 05:12:54 AM
He has the look of a lad who wishes he was still playing with his mates in the sun.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2017, 05:13:59 AM
Feel sorry for him

Needs a couple of bits to come off for him. One of them screamers to nestle and he'll take off like a rocket.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Realist on September 29, 2017, 05:14:19 AM
A waste of £5m
Man's not hot
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Shogun on September 29, 2017, 05:14:56 AM
Strange to take him off when the game was going to open up.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheTone on September 29, 2017, 05:56:35 AM
awful start to his Everton career, can't believe he could be this bad when he looked so good in La Liga and teams like Atletico Madrid were interested in signing him
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: hannu on September 29, 2017, 06:00:44 AM
He is proper cack, hopefully we can get the £5m back we paid for him
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on September 29, 2017, 06:03:56 AM
Fucking hell. I'm glad I've never played in any teams with some of you lot.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2017, 06:15:36 AM
Honestly I thought he was alright there!
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 29, 2017, 06:17:59 AM
Strange to take him off when the game was going to open up.

Should have been Rooney.  He was equally useless.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Rhys on September 29, 2017, 06:19:31 AM
He is proper cack, hopefully we can get the £5m back we paid for him

It's not someone paying the 5m that will be the problem, he's on a long contract on 120k a week so why would he leave that?

It's still early days with him. He is young and clearly struggling to adapt but seems to have the right attitude on the pitch just needs to settle down a bit seems to try to do everything at 100mph. His touch is well off for sure but given the investment in wages and his age hopefully he can develop and be good. Shame we don't have good forward options as that would take some of the pressure of him working out now off him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2017, 06:22:11 AM
It's not someone paying the 5m that will be the problem, he's on a long contract on 120k a week so why would he leave that?

It's still early days with him. He is young and clearly struggling to adapt but seems to have the right attitude on the pitch just needs to settle down a bit seems to try to do everything at 100mph. His touch is well off for sure but given the investment in wages and his age hopefully he can develop and be good. Shame we don't have good forward options as that would take some of the pressure of him working out now off him.

Made some really good darting runs down the channels and in behind. I agree he seems to be trying everything a millions miles an hour. Looks like too much energy balled up into one player so whenever he gets the ball it seems to ping off him as he tries some mad cut inside.

Think he will kick on soon and he'll be really dangerous.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: kramer0 on September 29, 2017, 06:58:04 AM
I don't really blame Sandro for the slow start because I have no idea what Koeman wants him do or if Koeman even knows what he wants him to do.

His credentials as a goalscorer were always a bit overrated but I still think there's a good footballer in there. The pass to set up Calvert-Lewin in the League Cup gave us a glimpse of what he can do given willing runners. We'd probably get better performances from him if we put him in lineups with better off-the-ball options (i.e. where Rooney isn't the only attacking player he has to pass to).

He's only 22, anyhow. Way too early to write him off, even though he hasn't been the can't-miss player a lot of people expected.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 29, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
He will be fine once he gets a bit of confidence.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 29, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
To be fair how the fuck is he supposed to know where to go . At least Harry Kane and Romelu Lukaku are the focus of the teams attack . We have about 5 number 10's and 2 in the middle for most of the game .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Waltzer on September 29, 2017, 02:25:26 PM
I didnt think he played too bad last night, showed ambition to run at players and with long range shooting. Admittedly it didnt come off but he was still trying
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: School of Science on September 29, 2017, 02:28:36 PM
Like Klassen looks totally devoid of confidence, needs a goal badly, doesn't help when Rooneys chasing the ball in his own half and he becomes isolated.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 30, 2017, 02:10:07 AM
I didnt think he played too bad last night, showed ambition to run at players and with long range shooting. Admittedly it didnt come off but he was still trying


Looks like he is trying to hard, but trying in the wrong positions, on the right wing an left wing.. he tried really hard but by the time he gets into the box, he looks tired and just aimlessly punts the ball (usually it goes over)

What is Sandro?

I know what he's not.. he's not a winger, he's not a striker who can play on the edge of the shoulder, he doesnt hold up the ball (showed that yesterday only held it up once)

He's a player who is trying to hard, i feel he knows Evertonians love hard working players.. but unfortunately that isnt enough.. shamefully it reflects why he only cost 5 million.  :/

He needs to chill, stick him in the under 23;s get him playing some football with no pressure, let him get his confidence back.. bring him back to the first team. Re-valuate.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 06, 2017, 09:08:26 PM
Bump



According to some European papers he’s looking to quit us in January!?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: sam of the south on December 06, 2017, 09:23:07 PM
Bump



According to some European papers he’s looking to quit us in January!?

I'm not surprised.

I wonder how much we could get for him?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: velimski on December 06, 2017, 09:31:53 PM
I'm not surprised.

I wonder how much we could get for him?

More than we paid.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Ross on December 06, 2017, 09:39:57 PM
He’d need to take a massive wage reduction wouldn’t he?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 06, 2017, 09:57:24 PM
I can honestly say, given the fact I can’t get to games much now, that I haven’t seen him.

Would we be letting a player with potential go, or is there nothing there?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Hawkandro on December 06, 2017, 10:01:37 PM
I doubt you would have the likes of Atletico and Valencia after you if there wasn't something about you.

This could come back to bite us on the arse, but then he may just not be adapting to life over here, so there may be little we can do to stop him.
Title: What is Sandro?
Post by: Hawkandro on December 06, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
Sandro not in squad tomorrow so either injured or really out of favour.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 06, 2017, 10:54:15 PM
I doubt you would have the likes of Atletico and Valencia after you if there wasn't something about you.

This could come back to bite us on the arse, but then he may just not be adapting to life over here, so there may be little we can do to stop him.

He's banging the goals on the new FM for me
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 06, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
We’re probably entertaining the idea of selling him because of his wages. 120k a week to warm up is pretty steep.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: D15TIN on December 06, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
Sandro not in squad tomorrow so either injured or really out of favour.
Or in the squad sunday
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 06, 2017, 11:08:07 PM
I can honestly say, given the fact I can't get to games much now, that I haven't seen him.

Would we be letting a player with potential go, or is there nothing there?
He looks like he is trying to hard tbh. There's obvious talent there
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 06, 2017, 11:11:46 PM
Sandro not in squad tomorrow so either injured or really out of favour.

Plays Sunday I reckon
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 12:22:51 AM
Eat me own ollies if he plays on Sunday
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 07, 2017, 12:28:02 AM
Eat me own ollies if he plays on Sunday

Starting or bench?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Macca77 on December 07, 2017, 12:48:24 AM
He's off on loan to Valencia in January, deal already done
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 07, 2017, 12:50:21 AM
He's injured tomoz.... Apparently
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: sam of the south on December 07, 2017, 12:53:54 AM
He's off on loan to Valencia in January, deal already done

Where did you hear that?

I bet we will still be paying a large chunk of his ridiculous wages.

I hope we've got a few strikers already lined up for January if this is the case.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 07, 2017, 01:10:52 AM
Still don't believe he's been given afair crack of the whip tbh .....Rekon there is a right pain in the arse for defenders in there .....but why has he been ousted by everyone ?....come on big Sam wake the lad up.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Macca77 on December 07, 2017, 01:50:05 AM
Where did you hear that?

I bet we will still be paying a large chunk of his ridiculous wages.

I hope we've got a few strikers already lined up for January if this is the case.

Pablo told me
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 02:46:33 AM
There is quality there and it would be a shame if both him and Klassen were moved on too early as I think they’d both be great at their new clubs and we’d be wondering what might have been.

That said I don’t agree that they haven’t been given a fair chance. They’ve both been really poor when they’ve played and simply don’t deserve to be getting game time at the moment.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 07, 2017, 04:43:45 AM
If he did play on Sunday...

And he did bag a brace and have a stormer...

It would be the birth of a legend and it would all be back on again.

#JustSayin
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheRam on December 07, 2017, 04:55:36 AM
We won't be getting rid without bringing anyone else in first.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 07, 2017, 04:57:07 AM
We won't be getting rid without bringing anyone else in first.
You'd hope

It's really about time Walsh earned his coin isn't it
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 07, 2017, 05:31:39 AM
We won't be getting rid without bringing anyone else in first.

Shane Long loan deal incoming
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: pjk on December 07, 2017, 05:42:50 AM
I like the look of Sandro. It's a shame we all need to whine because it isn't instant. You all saw his goal. What the fuck s the matter with you tits. I think I need to go to bed. You're all turning into instant shites. Fucking sort it.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 07, 2017, 05:45:43 AM
By all accounts Sandro was a Walsh signing. He's surely not going to want him to go without seeing if he's got what it takes?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: GLewis on December 07, 2017, 12:14:50 PM
I’d guess it’s more if he’s unhappy not playing / in general.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: School of Science on December 07, 2017, 12:22:53 PM
We won't be getting rid without bringing anyone else in first.

Yes we never do that.........
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 07, 2017, 01:05:17 PM
I like the look of Sandro.

You must see more than Koeman,  Unsworth and Allerdyce then. Ever thought of doing your coaching badges?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheRam on December 07, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
You must see more than Koeman,  Unsworth and Allerdyce then. Ever thought of doing your coaching badges?

Fucking hell

What's the actual point in posts like this?

Do you even offer an opinion on here or do you just go round sniping at everyone's posts.

Proper miserable cunt you la.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 07, 2017, 02:41:04 PM
Double post
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 07, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
Fucking hell

What's the actual point in posts like this?

Do you even offer an opinion on here or do you just go round sniping at everyone's posts.

Proper miserable cunt you la.

Sorry officer. Forgot you're the self appointed forum police.

I'm responding to a post that actually says "What the fuck s the matter with you tits" because people have a different opinion to him yet you call me out, I think it's an appropriate response myself... But ok pal, sad that you're arsed enough to respond tbh but crack on
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 07, 2017, 02:58:08 PM
I'd guess it's more if he's unhappy not playing / in general.
Yeah, he’ll be the one pushing for the move.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Django on December 13, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
A quick look at the la liga top scorers has kind of put his 14 goals into some context and now I'm sure he's probably not cut out for it.

Zaza, Aspas and Stuani all on 10, 9 and 8 respectively
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blargins on December 13, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
A quick look at the la liga top scorers has kind of put his 14 goals into some context and now I'm sure he's probably not cut out for it.

Zaza, Aspas and Stuani all on 10, 9 and 8 respectively

Just looked at that table. What's happened to Ronaldo? Has he been injured?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 13, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Just looked at that table. What's happened to Ronaldo? Has he been injured?
No he has just been poor. Madrid started the season slowly too which didn't help.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blargins on December 13, 2017, 06:32:19 PM
No he has just been poor. Madrid started the season slowly too which didn't help.

Wow, maybe his star is on the wane?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Django on December 13, 2017, 06:42:27 PM
Just looked at that table. What's happened to Ronaldo? Has he been injured?

Mad isn't it, he usually scores regardless of team form but apparently not this season. Suppose he is getting on now.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blue1948 on December 13, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Wow, maybe his star is on the wane?
You like stats so :-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4370456/Cristiano-Ronaldo-declining-Real-Madrid.html
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 13, 2017, 07:13:55 PM
Just looked at that table. What's happened to Ronaldo? Has he been injured?

Real have been struggling to score in general, Had a good result on the weekend though. Ronaldo got a brace I think.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 13, 2017, 07:29:41 PM
Sandro to replace Ronaldo - you heard it here first
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 13, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
Sandro to replace Ronaldo - you heard it here first

Swap deal?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 13, 2017, 07:32:36 PM
Swap deal?

Just practicing to be a journo -

Ronaldo off form
+
Sandro wanting to go to Spain
+
Quick Maths!
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 13, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Just practicing to be a journo -

Ronaldo off form
+
Sandro wanting to go to Spain
+
Quick Maths!

You've got the job fella.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 14, 2017, 12:56:11 AM
Really wouldn't suprise me if we let the next Ronaldo slip through our fingers ...tbh. ...give the lad a chance Sam .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Macca77 on December 15, 2017, 05:46:31 PM
Sam Allardyce revealed Sandro Ramirez has found it difficult settling into life at Everton, but is hopeful the forward will find his feet at Goodison Park.

"Sandro hasn’t settled in that well, according to the staff," said Allardyce.

"We would hope he would make an impact down the line.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: loroloco on December 15, 2017, 06:29:11 PM
Sam Allardyce revealed Sandro Ramirez has found it difficult settling into life at Everton, but is hopeful the forward will find his feet at Goodison Park.

"Sandro hasn’t settled in that well, according to the staff," said Allardyce.

"We would hope he would make an impact down the line.

one can´t help but wonder if his football is bad because he hasn´t settled or if he hasn´t settled because his football is bad. we should give him every opportunity to help him either way. fellaini was dog shit for the firt 2 or 3 years at everton (maybe dog shit is a bit over the top haha) but he came good and became one of our best players. would love him back tbh.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 15, 2017, 08:06:34 PM
one can´t help but wonder if his football is bad because he hasn´t settled or if he hasn´t settled because his football is bad. we should give him every opportunity to help him either way. fellaini was dog shit for the firt 2 or 3 years at everton (maybe dog shit is a bit over the top haha) but he came good and became one of our best players. would love him back tbh.

Didn't Felli get 10-12 goals in his first season?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 15, 2017, 08:26:08 PM
one can´t help but wonder if his football is bad because he hasn´t settled or if he hasn´t settled because his football is bad. we should give him every opportunity to help him either way. fellaini was dog shit for the firt 2 or 3 years at everton (maybe dog shit is a bit over the top haha) but he came good and became one of our best players. would love him back tbh.

Was with you til you mentioned Fellaini.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on December 15, 2017, 08:54:42 PM
Didn't Felli get 10-12 goals in his first season?
something like that

which is also the counter argument to DCL - even when first signed Lukaku was poor in many aspects of his play but still bagged 20 for us.

not saying Sandro can't eventually work out but it doesn't seem very likely at the moment does it?
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 15, 2017, 09:08:56 PM
something like that

which is also the counter argument to DCL - even when first signed Lukaku was poor in many aspects of his play but still bagged 20 for us.

not saying Sandro can't eventually work out but it doesn't seem very likely at the moment does it?

Lukaku is still poor at things, some of which will never change. Doesn't stop him being boss. You can't be poor and score loads of goals, It just makes said player a goal scorer.

Felli obviously matured as a player and got better, but was in no means shit when we signed him, he was just different. Mainly because we played him up where he couldn't effect the game as much.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on December 15, 2017, 09:14:38 PM
Lukaku is still poor at things, some of which will never change. Doesn't stop him being boss. You can't be poor and score loads of goals, It just makes said player a goal scorer.

Felli obviously matured as a player and got better, but was in no means shit when we signed him, he was just different. Mainly because we played him up where he couldn't effect the game as much.
I do think fellaini is a fairly poor comparison - I actually do remember him being pretty bad in the first few appearances but he did always have that tactical reason to get included in a team - his size and ability to bring balls down from the air or flick it on, defend and attack on set pieces etc.

I really struggle to see what tactical advantage (size, pace, engine, aerial ability) that Sandro offers at this moment in time which makes a very strong case for him being included in the starting XI to counter his shortcomings so it seems so unlikely that he will get time in the 1st team to play his way into some form. he just doesn't seem strong enough at any one thing to make a case for playing him and dealing with the time required to get him up to speed
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: mikey_blue on December 15, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
I do think fellaini is a fairly poor comparison - I actually do remember him being pretty bad in the first few appearances but he did always have that tactical reason to get included in a team - his size and ability to bring balls down from the air or flick it on, defend and attack on set pieces etc.

I really struggle to see what tactical advantage (size, pace, engine, aerial ability) that Sandro offers at this moment in time which makes a very strong case for him being included in the starting XI to counter his shortcomings so it seems so unlikely that he will get time in the 1st team to play his way into some form. he just doesn't seem strong enough at any one thing to make a case for playing him and dealing with the time required to get him up to speed

First few appearances mean fuck all, being 21 and coming from Belgium to the Prem is a big step up, I gave him time to adjust before I judged him. He was wasted up front, but he still used the natural attributes to be one of our main contributors that season. For that reason, I can't call him poor.

Totally agree with the Sandro point though. For the style we're starting to play, DCL is much more suited to it. I do think Sandro could be a player, but it's the wrong time for him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on December 15, 2017, 09:26:52 PM
First few appearances mean fuck all, being 21 and coming from Belgium to the Prem is a big step up, I gave him time to adjust before I judged him. He was wasted up front, but he still used the natural attributes to be one of our main contributors that season. For that reason, I can't call him poor.

Totally agree with the Sandro point though. For the style we're starting to play, DCL is much more suited to it. I do think Sandro could be a player, but it's the wrong time for him.
baldness makes him look older but Sandro's only 22 - he looks so much older
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 15, 2017, 11:07:19 PM
He's currently scored 47 goals for me by Feb in all competitions on FM but the cunt wants to move to a bigger club. Sack him off
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Macca77 on December 15, 2017, 11:29:01 PM
Hes shit lads, its a shame but its true
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: therealdunc on December 15, 2017, 11:50:29 PM
Valencia want him but only on loan as they are skint

Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 15, 2017, 11:59:00 PM
Hes shit lads, its a shame but its true
I don't think he is or will be shit but it's defo not worked out
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 16, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
Don't know what to think of him. He can't be shite if they paid all that money for him.....ahem!
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: loroloco on December 16, 2017, 03:01:11 AM
Didn't Felli get 10-12 goals in his first season?

just looked it up there. he got 8 league goals his 1st year. second year he got 2. 3rd year got 1. 4th year he got 3. he wasn´t brought in as a goal scorer so he shouldn´t be judged on his goals anyway.

just to clarify my point. he was brought in for astronomical money (in everton terms) and didn´t live up to that tag for years. i actually couldn´t believe we payed so much money for him because he really didn´t look a 16 million pound player until a few years after he signed. maybe most of you will disagree with that but i distinctly remember every evertonian i spoke to at the time being disappointed in him, mostly because they were disappointed due to there espectation of what they thought we were buying with what was an absolute fortune at the time. i was merely pointing out the comparison of the hype compared to the reality. i think we all got a bit carried away with hype with felli ( well me anyway) as we did with sandro.

to put in simply, some players do live up to the hype ...after they settle. we should give sandro every opportunity. he might just surprise us.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blueski on December 16, 2017, 03:47:05 AM
just looked it up there. he got 8 league goals his 1st year. second year he got 2. 3rd year got 1. 4th year he got 3. he wasn´t brought in as a goal scorer so he shouldn´t be judged on his goals anyway.

just to clarify my point. he was brought in for astronomical money (in everton terms) and didn´t live up to that tag for years. i actually couldn´t believe we payed so much money for him because he really didn´t look a 16 million pound player until a few years after he signed. maybe most of you will disagree with that but i distinctly remember every evertonian i spoke to at the time being disappointed in him, mostly because they were disappointed due to there espectation of what they thought we were buying with what was an absolute fortune at the time. i was merely pointing out the comparison of the hype compared to the reality. i think we all got a bit carried away with hype with felli ( well me anyway) as we did with sandro.

to put in simply, some players do live up to the hype ...after they settle. we should give sandro every opportunity. he might just surprise us.
while its going back a ways, the Fellaini deal was on the drip - £3m per year as I recall but the sum total was fairly large which exaggerated the headline

I hope Sandro does work out, it just seems very unlikely at the moment that he will get games needed to do so. Maybe it can all be worked out in training...

also in his defence I don't think he's featured in a true game under the new manager and practically all of them have looked better in the new regime so maybe he will too
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 16, 2017, 04:19:26 AM
It isn't that he's shit, more a case of we've been shit and haven't been in a position to get him settled via doing his job.  Same goes for Klaassen to some extent.

Fellaini comparison is interesting - he'd likely be in the same (Sandro, Klaassen) boat if back then was now.  And vice versa.  Hopefully things work out for both.  Definitely good, potentially great players in there.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Ross on December 16, 2017, 05:18:51 AM
When ever I see this thread bumped up it reminds me of this....

(http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lstfclEo201r3h55no1_500.png)
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 16, 2017, 06:10:12 AM
Hes shit lads, its a shame but its true
Only 21 league minutes that's a bold statement to make .
He's currently scored 47 goals for me by Feb in all competitions on FM but the cunt wants to move to a bigger club. Sack him off
I rekon he will be awesome when we fuck him off without a proper chance ....Everton that.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Ross on December 16, 2017, 06:34:35 AM
Only 21 league minutes that's a bold statement to make .I rekon he will be awesome when we fuck him off without a proper chance ....Everton that.

It’s 231 league minuets in total GB, plus another 200 in Europe. Far more than Niasse got before he was written off.

But I agree he needs time, like Klansen as well.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: ally2 on December 16, 2017, 06:51:14 AM
I want that impressed with him playing for Spain U23 but I still rate him. To bin him off now would be spectacularly stupid.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Thomas on December 16, 2017, 10:43:05 AM
Saleh didn't get a proper chance at Chelsea.....

Look what happened there.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: howard1334 on December 16, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
just looked it up there. he got 8 league goals his 1st year. second year he got 2. 3rd year got 1. 4th year he got 3. he wasn´t brought in as a goal scorer so he shouldn´t be judged on his goals anyway.

just to clarify my point. he was brought in for astronomical money (in everton terms) and didn´t live up to that tag for years. i actually couldn´t believe we payed so much money for him because he really didn´t look a 16 million pound player until a few years after he signed. maybe most of you will disagree with that but i distinctly remember every evertonian i spoke to at the time being disappointed in him, mostly because they were disappointed due to there espectation of what they thought we were buying with what was an absolute fortune at the time. i was merely pointing out the comparison of the hype compared to the reality. i think we all got a bit carried away with hype with felli ( well me anyway) as we did with sandro.

to put in simply, some players do live up to the hype ...after they settle. we should give sandro every opportunity. he might just surprise us.

Yeah, I think this is a revisionist history. His first year, his overall play was a bit disappointing, but he chipped in with a lot of goals, and I think most people were feeling okay about his performances. He then started playing in a much deeper midfield position, sometimes as a DM, were he excelled at times. Around the time he did his famous Maradona against City, he was getting rave reviews. Then, of course, his last season for us, we pushed him forward again (in part, I personally believe, b/c he was no longer as effective as a DM), and he scored a ton of goals. I never thought of him as a disappointment. And he was certainly never as ineffectual as Sandro has been. Not really comparable in my mind.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 16, 2017, 04:44:44 PM
Felt like he was a main striker with all the hype when we were signing him.

Being talked about all across the shop - CF, winger, #10


Sandro is a player with promise and a big price tag but no apparent spot or even a defined position at the club which bought him.

In other words, he's a Ronald Koeman signing.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Tofifee on December 16, 2017, 06:04:57 PM
I will tell you what Sandro is, he is off, that's what he is

Really hope he doesnt end up anotehr Mustafi now......
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Brownie20 on December 16, 2017, 06:14:05 PM
Sandro is a player with promise and a big price tag but no apparent spot or even a defined position at the club which bought him.

In other words, he's a Ronald Koeman signing.

£5m is hardly a big price tag
Title: What is Sandro?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 16, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
That irrelevant Fellini chat ruined this thread. Congratulations.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 16, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
It's 231 league minuets in total GB, plus another 200 in Europe. Far more than Niasse got before he was written off.

But I agree he needs time, like Klansen as well.
Niasse was only written off by Koeman though.
Although we know who got the last laugh 😅.
Only realised my numbers where missing then...I got my stats off who scored ...bloody phone .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Silas on December 16, 2017, 07:18:42 PM
Niasse was only written off by Koeman though.
Although we know who got the last laugh 😅.
Only realised my numbers where missing then...I got my stats off who scored ...bloody phone .

And Martinez and almost all the fans let's not rewrite history
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jamokachi on December 16, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
Niasse is shite.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 16, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
The best player I have ever seen.  Try to keep up!

In all seriousness, he seems like he plays best alongside Rooney where they both can move around interchangeably.  Would like to see him more in the lone striker role up top when DCL is getting a breather, as well.

OT: EiNC, hows it goin buddy?

Warming to Big Sam yet this Christmas season?  ;)
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 16, 2017, 10:55:11 PM
And Martinez and almost all the fans let's not rewrite history
Martinez bought him ffs ...and quite a few fans wanted to give him time before judgement ....and those who still think he's shite ....think where we would 'still' be without his goals ...ungrateful cunts .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheRam on December 16, 2017, 10:55:55 PM
Niasse is shite.

He isn't like.

Some parts of his game are shite, but he's proven himself to be a very good player in the penalty box.

Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: everton1952 on December 16, 2017, 11:16:57 PM
Until we sign someone better he will be picked. He is more likely to score than DCL which is what counts in the end. If Rooney does not score who will? We desperately need a main striker like Giroud or even Benteke.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 16, 2017, 11:24:21 PM
Until we sign someone better he will be picked. He is more likely to score than DCL which is what counts in the end. If Rooney does not score who will? We desperately need a main striker like Giroud or even Benteke.
Likes this but please not fucking Benteke he's shiter than shite.... makes Niasse look like Pele some days.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: eugene on December 16, 2017, 11:29:19 PM
Sandro is a player with promise and a big price tag but no apparent spot or even a defined position at the club which bought him.

In other words, he's a Ronald Koeman signing.
big price tag your having a laugh,
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Jamokachi on December 17, 2017, 05:11:02 AM
He isn't like.

Some parts of his game are shite, but he's proven himself to be a very good player in the penalty box.

I'd be happy never seeing him in an Everton shirt again to be honest. I admire his determination and never say die attitude, but he's just nowhere near the level we need.

Anyway, this debate has been done to death. It's not his fault he's one of the few options we have.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 08:39:18 PM
He’s good off the bench when you need someone to just put one in off their kneecap.

Watching WBA and convinced Rondon needs that January move. Big Sam written all over him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2017, 08:40:05 PM
He’s good off the bench when you need someone to just put one in off their kneecap.

Watching WBA and convinced Rondon needs that January move. Big Sam written all over him.

He's scored about 2 goals all year.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: gizzblue on December 17, 2017, 08:41:08 PM
He's good off the bench when you need someone to just put one in off their kneecap.

Watching WBA and convinced Rondon needs that January move. Big Sam written all over him.
Id take him ...good hold up play ..we need more than goals .
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 08:59:35 PM
He's scored about 2 goals all year.

Doesn’t score many for WBA tbh it’s a fair shout, they don’t particularly make chances for him tho.

His hold up play is one of the best in the league tho, he’d be great as a 6 foot firminho basically. Get rooney Lookman Henry sig etc. all playing off and around him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 17, 2017, 10:18:25 PM
big price tag your having a laugh,

It's a relative term that considers cost vs. value.

For instance, it took me about two seconds to read your post, which seems a huge expenditure of time in relation to its value.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: everton1952 on December 17, 2017, 11:26:26 PM
It's a relative term that considers cost vs. value.

For instance, it took me about two seconds to read your post, which seems a huge expenditure of time in relation to its value.
Harsh that, poor Eugene. I understand Sandro will be allowed home for the holiday period in Malaga, on a one way ticket.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 17, 2017, 11:48:47 PM
It's a relative term that considers cost vs. value.

For instance, it took me about two seconds to read your post, which seems a huge expenditure of time in relation to its value.

Well surely given we'd easily get our 5 million back it's not a big price tag. It's actually risk free price tag
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 18, 2017, 11:56:50 AM
Paying anything, much less £5 million, for something you don't need or know how to use, and thus, get no use from, is plenty expensive.

And when you're paying it £120,000 a week to sit collecting dust, it's doubly expensive.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: bluenuck on December 18, 2017, 12:21:02 PM
Would really hate to see what's being rumoured actually happen.

I was excited about Sandro. I think he's got some great skill in him.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 02:04:41 PM
Really mad that it’s not worked at all, I was mega excited for him.

I mean, i did start to worry about how many of his goals were like mad wonderstrikes from tight angles rather than typical strikers Goals, but was deffo happy to see what happened.

Shame it’s gone the way it has, certainly feels he’s off.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Toddacelli on December 18, 2017, 02:31:55 PM
Doesn’t score many for WBA tbh it’s a fair shout, they don’t particularly make chances for him tho.

His hold up play is one of the best in the league tho, he’d be great as a 6 foot firminho basically. Get rooney Lookman Henry sig etc. all playing off and around him.

If we're gonna spend money on a striker then I want a striker who scores goals first, holds up well second.

Cash money on a striker who doesn't score just isn't what we need to be doing right now.

Rondon is a big no for me.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 02:49:40 PM
If we're gonna spend money on a striker then I want a striker who scores goals first, holds up well second.

Cash money on a striker who doesn't score just isn't what we need to be doing right now.

Rondon is a big no for me.

Hardest thing to buy, especially in Jan.

We’ve got a team that looks built to do one thing quite well which is spread goalscorers - Sigurdsson, Rooney, Klaassen if he can sort himself out, same for Sandro.

Obviously if we can magic up a goalscorer great, possibly why Benteke is looking so likely - good hold up and a good goal record.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: Ross on December 18, 2017, 03:11:51 PM
Well surely given we'd easily get our 5 million back it's not a big price tag. It's actually risk free price tag

Whilst it’s true most top level clubs will be able to afford a £5m price tag very few can afford the £120k wages he now comes with.

He was hardly “risk free” for that sort of deal. 
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: D3blue on December 18, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
Watched WBA hilites last night.  Unimpressed with Rondon.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
Watched WBA hilites last night.  Unimpressed with Rondon.

Literally as soon as I started bigging him up he started having a stinker haha
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blargins on December 18, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
You can certainly see why Rondon only has two goals this year.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 18, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
You can certainly see why Rondon only has two goals this year.

Right away like, when you notice he's wearing a West Brom shirt.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 18, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
Paying anything, much less £5 million, for something you don't need or know how to use, and thus, get no use from, is plenty expensive.

And when you're paying it £120,000 a week to sit collecting dust, it's doubly expensive.

We'd get more than 5 million for him now. He was a fantastic buy. He's been as poor as possible and we'd still make money
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: blargins on December 18, 2017, 09:32:00 PM
Right away like, when you notice he's wearing a West Brom shirt.

That and when he shoots he tends to not score as well.
Title: Re: What is Sandro?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on December 18, 2017, 11:10:16 PM
That and when he shoots he tends to not score as well.

That pretty much goes with wearing a West Brom shirt, too.