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Title: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: sam of the south on September 24, 2017, 02:55:47 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/857904/Everton-news-Ronald-Koeman-Premier-League-Wayne-Rooney-Paul-Merson


Everton news: There is one big problem at the club -


PAUL MERSON says Everton have one big problem - their side has no pace.

The Toffees sold Romelu Lukaku to Manchester United this summer and spent more than £140million on eight senior additions.

Those include Gylfi Sigurdsson, Wayne Rooney and Davy Klaassen but the Toffees have struggled this season.

After five games they languish in the bottom three and Merson thinks it's all down to a lack of speed in their side.

He told the Daily Star: "Everton can moan all they like about not signing a centre forward to replace Romelu Lukaku, but their biggest problem is they’ve no pace.

"Ronald Koeman is under pressure because they’ve spent big and started badly and his team aren’t just losing, they’re being blown away.

"Chelsea could easily have put five or six past them. So could Tottenham – and I honestly can’t remember Everton rolling over that easily to anyone at Goodison for years.

"They had a shocker in Europe as well against Atalanta. But don’t blame it all on not getting Olivier Giroud. Speed is much more important.

"Teams are suffocating them because they don’t have anyone who can stretch a game and get behind the back four.

"But the crazy thing is they weren’t even trying to buy that kind of player. Koeman has bought some great players, but they’re too similar and none of them are quick.

"Wayne Rooney, Davy Klaassen and Gylfi Sigurdsson are all good players. But they need runners around them. They need people to pick out.

"If you look at that team it’s too slow. They must be thinking they’ve missed a trick here, surely?







Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Jamokachi on September 24, 2017, 03:06:44 PM
We do have 2 very pace players to come back from injury though...
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: sam of the south on September 24, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
We do have 2 very pace players to come back from injury though...

When do you think they will both be back up to speed? (pardon the pun)

Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Jamokachi on September 24, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
When do you think they will both be back up to speed? (pardon the pun)

Judging by the fact Coleman is back kicking a ball in training I think he will be sooner than we were expecting!
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: sam of the south on September 24, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
Judging by the fact Coleman is back kicking a ball in training I think he will be sooner than we were expecting!


That would be wonderful.

I feel it will be a while until he is ready for the rigeurs of full sprinting, and 90 mins of ploughing up and down the right flank regularly in the EPL, though.

Also, let's hope none of his zip has been sapped by the injury itself and the lay-off it has enforced.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 24, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
I can see what he's saying, if you look at that starting line up yesterday, you've got maybe 3 players who are pacy, Holgate, Gana and Calvert-Lewin, but only one who will really use pace in an attacking sense

In the squad we've got Coleman, Bolasie, Kenny, Lookman, Vlasic, Mirallas, Lennon, Niasse and Sandro who have got a turn of pace, so I do think we have players who can inject pace into the side

The game isn't all about pace however. I think you can get round not having lots of it, possibly more important is how quickly you move the ball, and how good your off the ball movement is

We were laboured yesterday when moving the ball about. Seemed to be a lot of the time where Schneiderlin or Gana had it and they had to turn back on themselves and hold on to it or pass it back as no one was making themselves available

I would blame 5 players for that yesterday. The 2 full backs are the only wide players that we start with and they need to be constant outlets, and the 3 number 10s, who appear to be contributing very little at the moment, possibly because there are 2 too many of them in a congested area of the pitch

Dom Calvert-Lewin appeared to be the only one providing that attacking speed and movement, and we only took advantage of this when we got the quick thinking Davies on in midfield, and a partner for him up front, in Niasse

We can move on from here and pick up lots of points before any more additions, but the manager needs to work out what hasn't been working well for us this season so far and correct it, and not make the same mistakes again. Sometimes you can get away with a poor first half showing and wrong team selection by making the right subs. Other times the game will already be out of reach. Potentially 2 of the key substitutions yesterday were forced on him through injury, lets just hope that he realises that they would have been the correct ones regardless
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 24, 2017, 04:48:57 PM
Seeing Seamus on the pitch will lift everyone...Pure 100% Everton FC in a bottle.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: MrWhite on September 24, 2017, 05:00:12 PM
@sam of the south (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1686) bit low-brow from you mate thinking that Merson has anything worthwhile to say (other than repeating what every other pundit said a month ago?)

I prefer the headline on the page itself:

"Everton news: There is one big problem at club - Paul Merson"
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: sam of the south on September 24, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
@sam of the south (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1686) bit low-brow from you mate thinking that Merson has anything worthwhile to say (other than repeating what every other pundit said a month ago?)

I prefer the headline on the page itself:

"Everton news: There is one big problem at club - Paul Merson"

I'm quoting it because this article is the second time in the media that this obvious problem we have has been highlighted (after Carragher last week)

It is relevant to the forum(whether you agree with it or not)because it is Everton related, and it is something that a fair few on here have been saying for a while.

As for 'low brow', suck my plums.

Now that is low brow 😉

Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 24, 2017, 05:27:08 PM
What did football fans ever do before Paul Merson's insightful, informative musings?
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 24, 2017, 06:16:44 PM
I remember the times when Merson used to totally bum us, never had a bad word said against us. He needs to get back on the mozam.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: MrWhite on September 24, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
I'm quoting it because this article is the second time in the media that this obvious problem we have has been highlighted (after Carragher last week)

It is relevant to the forum(whether you agree with it or not)because it is Everton related, and it is something that a fair few on here have been saying for a while.

As for 'low brow', suck my plums.

Now that is low brow

No mate I meant he's low brow, not you. The topic is valid just he's slow to repeat others opinions.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Juanito on September 24, 2017, 08:21:38 PM
No mate I meant he's low brow, not you. The topic is valid just he's slow to repeat others opinions.

Nah, not sure. Merson would credit Everton when others wouldn't. He watches Everton play so how do you know he is commenting on what he has seen, rather than copying other people's opinions?

Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 24, 2017, 09:16:53 PM
When 2 of our more pacey players come on (Kenny and Niasse) we looked a completely different team.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Realist on September 24, 2017, 09:31:53 PM
Merson's a tit
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2017, 11:09:49 PM
Lack of pace maybe,  but first we have to sort out the right line-up, formation and tactics.

Get them right, stop playing three No.10's and narrow and it wont be the issue it seems.

Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Bluedylan on September 24, 2017, 11:17:12 PM
Stopped reading at 'Merson..'
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2017, 11:21:06 PM
Seeing Seamus on the pitch will lift everyone...Pure 100% Everton FC in a bottle.

His identikit younger model did just that at weekend.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2017, 12:45:47 AM
Merson's a tit

Yes he is a tit. But he's a likeable tit. And I'm kind of glad he's on the TV really as a bit of light relief. Also because if he wasn't I imagine he's he might be found living in a cardboard box on the street or something.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 25, 2017, 02:41:15 AM
Yes he is a tit. But he's a likeable tit. And I'm kind of glad he's on the TV really as a bit of light relief. Also because if he wasn't I imagine he's he might be found living in a cardboard box on the street or something.
Gave us a lot of good press over the years and ripped martinez a new one publically on our behalf,just a bit miffed as weve all been recently in the manner of our defeats.In true fashion Everton will let you down and we come out fighting the knockers.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: MrWhite on September 25, 2017, 03:43:47 AM
Nah, not sure. Merson would credit Everton when others wouldn't. He watches Everton play so how do you know he is commenting on what he has seen, rather than copying other people's opinions?
If a pundit can only say what others have already said.. he's stealing a living. if he is independently reaching the same conclusions but taking longer.. he is stealing a living. Waiting a month and a half to tell us what we knew at the  start of August? You are really commending that level of punditry?!
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 25, 2017, 03:08:42 PM
Yes he is a tit. But he's a likeable tit. And I'm kind of glad he's on the TV really as a bit of light relief. Also because if he wasn't I imagine he's he might be found living in a cardboard box on the street or something.

So Sky subscribers should prop him up after he earned a considerable amount of money during his playing career.

Football punditry is the biggest gravy train in football. It's not what you say it's how you say it. 
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Mick 1995 on September 25, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
He's not wrong really.

But Coleman behind Sigurdsson & Bolasie in front of Baines massively transforms what this team looks like.
Koeman mentioned November as being reasonable for both of them to be in fullt training. If they both come back the players they were for the Christmas fixtures it will be a massive boost.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: formerKHL on September 25, 2017, 04:04:07 PM
merson is spot on...everyone can see we lack pace from midfield forward the other bit he missed was the width, or lack of....

pace is important there isn't a slower team in the PL than us as I see it
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Gary1878 on September 25, 2017, 05:06:36 PM
Pace is important but more important is to move the ball with pace and accuracy, and have good movement.

That said, it will be good to get Coleman and Bolasie back.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2017, 05:15:06 PM

So Sky subscribers should prop him up after he earned a considerable amount of money during his playing career.

Football punditry is the biggest gravy train in football. It's not what you say it's how you say it.

Totally agree. I just think he'd maybe one to fall off the rails that's all. Not a reason typo kepi him in a job. I like him in that he doesn't pretend to be knowledgeable!  Compared to someone like Shearer, Redknappp etc
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 25, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
Pace is just one of the issues we need to address. Another is the lack of balance in team selections so far. I think Coleman and Bolasie returning will go some way to addressing both of these issues but why wait until November/December to fix the problems?

We have players like Kenny, Lookman, Vlasic, and Mirallas who would give us a much needed injection of pace and make us much more balanced. I think the main reason we look so pedestrian is the lack of options our central midfielders have. It's telling that Martina is probably our main outlet and is subsequently receiving the ball so often.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Lxxx on September 25, 2017, 05:31:18 PM
I still don't know what Koeman's thoughts are concerning the left hand side of the pitch, it's like it doesn't exist. There doesn't seem to be any instructions to tell anyone in particular to stay out there. Whenever anyone gets the ball they just look right or backwards. Vlasic would be the only one who might be able to fulfil the role but he's in and out of the side.
The complete inbalance of the team is a much more pressing issue than just pace.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: Juanito on September 27, 2017, 09:27:45 AM
If a pundit can only say what others have already said.. he's stealing a living. if he is independently reaching the same conclusions but taking longer.. he is stealing a living. Waiting a month and a half to tell us what we knew at the  start of August? You are really commending that level of punditry?!

We don't know the context of the article. He might have been asked to do it about Everton and it does not take a genius to see what our massive problem is. Point is, You don't know if he is saying that because other commentators have said that or because that's what he sees, probably the latter as it's so painfully obvious. I don't think he is a skilled pundit. I think the podcasters on the totally football show are. He is harmless and actually likes Everton by all accounts which is welcome when most of the pundits out there seem to be x redshites.
Title: Re: Merson on our one-paced recruitment
Post by: arteta4spain on September 27, 2017, 11:59:48 AM
I still don't know what Koeman's thoughts are concerning the left hand side of the pitch, it's like it doesn't exist. There doesn't seem to be any instructions to tell anyone in particular to stay out there. Whenever anyone gets the ball they just look right or backwards. Vlasic would be the only one who might be able to fulfil the role but he's in and out of the side.
The complete inbalance of the team is a much more pressing issue than just pace.
Do you think that Koeman, and maybe Martinez to some extent, thinks that it would hinder Baines as he can ( well occasionally now) whip in a cross? Madness that like. It's like Bainaar never existed!