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Title: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 04:10:21 PM
Being Punjabi (indian) myself, I have had racist comments from Everton fans whilst attending matches, I hav'nt been to Goodison since 2012,
What i've noticed is when i go with English people, i dont get looks or feel out of place, When ive been with Asians, people stare, you can hear snide comments and they act like cunts around you..

Watching the youtube videos of pre match at goodison (the video i posted in the ratings thread) and some of Toffee Tvs pre match videos, I still notice hardly any Asians or Black people attending the ground..

the worst experiences i've had are during the the 2003 season i think it was when we played wolves and we won. Ive got a heavy Black Country accent, I had tickets in the main stand, but for some reason the stewards told us to goto the top and to the back.. where there was standing room only.. I had to speak to a police officer due to the abuse we was getting, who got another steward  to eventually take us to our seats. (missing both our goals!)

Had similar issues taking an ex gf to Goodison, watched Arsneal/Man utd and Blackburn that season..

I really want to go and watch us V Limassol, But i'll be going on my own, Just want to know where would be the nicest place to sit where i wont get aggro (if that still happens. if it doesnt then :D :D )

Dont mean to get anyone annoyed or upset, I havent been to Goodison since 2012. I dont want to be abused supporting/watching my club.

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: brap2 on September 25, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
Wow that's really upsetting, I'm really sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: formerKHL on September 25, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
that makes me feel sick inside.....

iwas in Cyprus last year and went to watch an everton game...I was the only evertonian in the pub at the time then an Asian group came in 3 families...one of the lads was a blue and we spent the match drinking together, having a laff and yes slagging us off.....good times...

be bigger than the idiots mate...and don't let them stop you....
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 04:43:02 PM
Little bit gutted to hear this, I will be bringing this up at the fans forum on the 5th I need to see if we can improve this , I don't see it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, tbh most evertonians seem to be more accepting than others,that is reports from other supporters not just me
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Brownie20 on September 25, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
That's horrendous. Sorry to hear that you have been subjected to stuff like this.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bigjmill on September 25, 2017, 04:48:25 PM
Problem is, I can only speak for myself and the people around me at the match. I have never seen or heard this happening in the last 10 years.

Taken, you will always have individuals who would do the same thing if you walked down any road in England. Thats just a minority that you will never educate.

The place is safe and I am sure if other fans heard this type of thing then they would be pulling them up for it. I would.

Can I ask a bit of a mad one.... were you wearing an Everton top? I am wondering if you were mistaken for a rival fan sitting in the home end.... no excuse but its amazing how inner madness can escape people within 90 minutes of a football match. I have never said f-off so much in all my life combined than the 2 minutes when the ref stopped the game for a foul against Bournemouth.

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
Ah it's shitty to hear that. Gutted

I wouldn't expect to hear it anywhere at the ground to be honest. You would expect the most passionate fans to be at the Gwladys, would see the least rowdy places being in the main stand/top balcony

I'm half Asian myself and have never heard anything aimed towards me. Have been the game on plenty of occasions with my Dad who is Chinese and never heard anything on those occasions either, horrible to think that any fans in any stadium should suffer any racist abuse

I really hope you go the game and enjoy it without any idiots ruining it for you
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Mick 1995 on September 25, 2017, 04:54:59 PM
yeah, badly shit and (unfortunately) expected to be honest.

Out of 40 thousand people, the massive majority are going to be sound. But the area is pretty racist and so it's easy to believe that in every block of the ground there will be 1 or 2 cunts and (naturally) these are going to be the only people you hear.

Have you sat in the upper Gwladys? Traditionally that's always been full of the more out-of-town students and more mellow than the LG. (New park end can similarly be considered more mellow)
The 3 stands on Goodison road tend to be full of middle-age & older locals who grew up in an era where everybody was a bellend and so i'd imagine it would be one of the worst places to be.

I appreciate you shouldn't have to make allowances like this (and it's not lost on me that i have just lumoed thousands of people into stereotypes based on where they are from/where they sit) but it is what it is for the time being.


Can't wait for all the people who think that because they don't notice it then it mustn't happen to appear though. But Bally is in this thread now, so you'd be a fucking moron to naysay here.
 
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
Problem is, I can only speak for myself and the people around me at the match. I have never seen or heard this happening in the last 10 years.

Taken, you will always have individuals who would do the same thing if you walked down any road in England. Thats just a minority that you will never educate.

The place is safe and I am sure if other fans heard this type of thing then they would be pulling them up for it. I would.

Can I ask a bit of a mad one.... were you wearing an Everton top? I am wondering if you were mistaken for a rival fan sitting in the home end.... no excuse but its amazing how inner madness can escape people within 90 minutes of a football match. I have never said f-off so much in all my life combined than the 2 minutes when the ref stopped the game for a foul against Bournemouth.

I was wearing the light blue/silver Keijen 125 anniversary top (only long sleeve top i've ever owned)
and yes, i thought the same, they may have thought i was Wolves fan, once we had been moved from standing against the back wall and where seated, things where a lot better.

Im just slighly uneasy walking from my car to the ground.. im pretty sure they're will be no issues, but i just want to be safe.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: gizzblue on September 25, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
Unfortunately there is always a dickhead ...but more and more fans now rightly see this as against the clubs ethos and anybody being racist will be in the minority themselves ,and will now be dealt with by being barred from matches if it brought to a stewards/police officers attention. ..

Hope you go the match and have a ball mate ...COYB.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bigjmill on September 25, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
..... they may have thought i was Wolves fan.......


I would bet my house on it!!! 

Im just slighly uneasy walking from my car to the ground.. im pretty sure they're will be no issues, but i just want to be safe.

Your safe mate! go the game and enjoy!


Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Gary1878 on September 25, 2017, 05:01:50 PM
Sorry to hear that. Racism is such an ugly thing and shows there is still so much work still to be done.

The problem with racism is that 99/100 fans are ok, but it just takes 1 idiot to ruin your day, and even that number is too many.

I hope you go and enjoy an Everton win.

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: pjk on September 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
Little bit gutted to hear this, I will be bringing this up at the fans forum on the 5th I need to see if we can improve this , I don't see it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, tbh most evertonians seem to be more accepting than others,that is reports from other supporters not just me



Take him on a tour for the Limassol game, if you're going yourself like. They're not going to pick on him when he's with you. :wag:
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: everton1952 on September 25, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
Gobsmacked to hear this happened in 2017. I have no explanation other than the hope it will not happen again. Most of my friends support Liverpool FC and from conversations it is commonly agreed that the Liverpool fan profile is very different to the Everton fan profile. We joke on here about Norwegians LFC fans and make other remarks of a similar nature. It was said we have far more local postcode residents than the reds.The fact is that LFC's so-called brand name is international and has been established over many years since their undeniable great success in Europe. Consequently any observation via the match cameras show many Asians, Chinese etc. at Anfield, who may or may not be tourists. Everton on the other hand have no international brand name at all in the Far East and I guess an Asian person at Everton  would stand out. No excuse of course.  I think Man Utd also have a good Asian following for similar historical reasons.  The big London clubs are different because of their multi-ethnic population. I hope you come and enjoy Everton home games.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Mick 1995 on September 25, 2017, 05:05:21 PM
You deffo wont encounter anything walking to the ground mate.
It is definitely safe in that respect.

The snide part? I reckon much less likely outside.
Well, i'm massivley ignorant to the whole thing so i'm probably not in a position to guess at something like that - but i would say you stood the same chance of verbal abuse as you would walking down any busy street in Liverpool on any day of the week.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Fynci on September 25, 2017, 05:09:08 PM
Nothing of value to add, I'm barely in the UK and haven't been to Goodison since 1999... but I just want to say that I'm so sorry to read this.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Tinga on September 25, 2017, 05:09:17 PM
Maybe it's just the black country accent?..
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: sam of the south on September 25, 2017, 05:10:37 PM
Man, reading this made me feel sad and angry in equal measures.

All white people have a responsibility to stand up to white bigots.

No excuses 👊🏼

Big up, @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) for being honest and putting yourself in a vulnerable position.

Much love, brother  :hug:
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 05:11:57 PM
yeah, badly shit and (unfortunately) expected to be honest.

Out of 40 thousand people, the massive majority are going to be sound. But the area is pretty racist and so it's easy to believe that in every block of the ground there will be 1 or 2 cunts and (naturally) these are going to be the only people you hear.

Have you sat in the upper Gwladys? Traditionally that's always been full of the more out-of-town students and more mellow than the LG. (New park end can similarly be considered more mellow)
The 3 stands on Goodison road tend to be full of middle-age & older locals who grew up in an era where everybody was a bellend and so i'd imagine it would be one of the worst places to be.

I appreciate you shouldn't have to make allowances like this (and it's not lost on me that i have just lumoed thousands of people into stereotypes based on where they are from/where they sit) but it is what it is for the time being.


Can't wait for all the people who think that because they don't notice it then it mustn't happen to appear though. But Bally is in this thread now, so you'd be a fucking moron to naysay here.

I think ive been in the main stand every time, never been in the Gladys or Bullens road ends, maybe thats the reason for the comments, due to there being lots of locals/middle aged folk.

I was looking at the seats located on FE4/FE5 and PK3

Appreciate everyone responses, thank you.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
Gobsmacked to hear this happened in 2017. I have no explanation other than the hope it will not happen again. Most of my friends support Liverpool FC and from conversations it is commonly agreed that the Liverpool fan profile is very different to the Everton fan profile. We joke on here about Norwegians LFC fans and make other remarks of a similar nature. It was said we have far more local postcode residents than the reds.The fact is that LFC's so-called brand name is international and has been established over many years since their undeniable great success in Europe. Consequently any observation via the match cameras show many Asians, Chinese etc. at Anfield, who may or may not be tourists. Everton on the other hand have no international brand name at all in the Far East and I guess an Asian person at Everton  would stand out. No excuse of course.  I think Man Utd also have a good Asian following for similar historical reasons.  The big London clubs are different because of their multi-ethnic population. I hope you come and enjoy Everton home games.

I havent been since 2012,  the worst of it was during 2003-2006 over ten years ago.
I agree with the worldwide branding/history aspect. Just hope we can break through that market.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 05:28:48 PM


I was wearing the light blue/silver Keijen 125 anniversary top (only long sleeve top i've ever owned)
and yes, i thought the same, they may have thought i was Wolves fan, once we had been moved from standing against the back wall and where seated, things where a lot better.

Im just slighly uneasy walking from my car to the ground.. im pretty sure they're will be no issues, but i just want to be safe.

Please don't feel uneasy, tell someone if you do, or just scowl and ask them what the fuck are they looking at.

I would ask if you could suggest one solution to the problem what would it be.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
Also just as an aside or to put you at ease we have expanded a lot in the way of supporters, personally I have spotted and helped a lot of different nationalities in the past couple of years, times they have a changed my friend you should have an enjoyable time if you don't not tell me I will report it
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 05:41:34 PM

Please don't feel uneasy, tell someone if you do, or just scowl and ask them what the fuck are they looking at.

I would ask if you could suggest one solution to the problem what would it be.

LOL, I'm trying to stay out of trouble :p

Ive booked seat 111 in the paddock :D

I dont know what to suggest Bally, Move the ground to a more affluent area? which is going to happen anyway, I think that will be a big help other than that...umm. its a social issue, I would just say education, dont know how to apply that to Everton/football teams.

We all bleed Blue.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Brownie20 on September 25, 2017, 05:44:23 PM


Take him on a tour for the Limassol game, if you're going yourself like. They're not going to pick on him when he's with you. :wag:

Deffo recommend a Bally tour
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: pjk on September 25, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
Deffo recommend a Bally tour





 :snigger:


Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 25, 2017, 05:49:26 PM
Sorry to read that, very grim

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toddacelli on September 25, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
Gutted for you.

Shouldn't happen to anyone but it seems somehow worse when it's within my Blue family.

I'm sure the majority would speak up for you if anything was to happen again and I know you want to avoid confrontation but please report anything that happens and don't let the bastards get away with it.

Wishing you much happier visits in the future, brother!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: phillyt on September 25, 2017, 06:39:25 PM
I havenít seen any racist abuse at goodison in a long time, although I donít doubt it happens. As has been said people can be dicks. I do know what your saying about the gwladys tho, itís not the most diverse of places. In fact I can only think of one black fella Iíve ever seen in there. The fact he stood out so much doesnít reflect well. I do think itís a combination of the demographic of the area as well as the reputation Everton have had in the past. As opposed to the vast majority not welcoming non white supporters. What bothers me most tho is not just that it happened, but that no one stood up for you told the pricks to shut the fuck up and welcomed you with a warm handshake (or a nod. More likely a knowing nod).

Weíre are you planning on parking on Thursday?
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 06:39:30 PM




 :snigger:
If I meet people at the game I always take them on a tour and bump into people I know, just so you can gauge the actual level of abuse that people can take hahaha
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: mikey_blue on September 25, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Awful that. It should be Everton making you wish that you didn't go the game, not the fans.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 06:46:58 PM
I havenít seen any racist abuse at goodison in a long time, although I donít doubt it happens. As has been said people can be dicks. I do know what your saying about the gwladys tho, itís not the most diverse of places. In fact I can only think of one black fella Iíve ever seen in there. The fact he stood out so much doesnít reflect well. I do think itís a combination of the demographic of the area as well as the reputation Everton have had in the past. As opposed to the vast majority not welcoming non white supporters. What bothers me most tho is not just that it happened, but that no one stood up for you told the pricks to shut the fuck up and welcomed you with a warm handshake (or a nod. More likely a knowing nod).

Weíre are you planning on parking on Thursday?

In the past i've just parked in side streets, but i was thinking of parking at Stanley Park,  says its a 25 min walk, but it doesnt look like it on Google,


Toddacelli, fancy comeing along? I can pick you up :d

If I meet people at the game I always take them on a tour and bump into people I know, just so you can gauge the actual level of abuse that people can take hahaha

Lol, i can take abuse, im pretty cheeky too, but i need to stay out of trouble.. To me its more of an issue of being on my own and walking through the area. lol :s
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: MrWhite on September 25, 2017, 06:49:29 PM
:hug:

Can't say anything that hasn't already been said. We're all blue.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toddacelli on September 25, 2017, 06:49:35 PM
Would love to bro but I am working until 7pm on Thurs   :(
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
I hate racist and bigoted bastards.

Go and enjoy your game, don't let the bastards win.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: phillyt on September 25, 2017, 07:00:44 PM
In the past i've just parked in side streets, but i was thinking of parking at Stanley Park,  says its a 25 min walk, but it doesnt look like it on Google,


Toddacelli, fancy comeing along? I can pick you up :d

Lol, i can take abuse, im pretty cheeky too, but i need to stay out of trouble.. To me its more of an issue of being on my own and walking through the area. lol :s


Itís 25 minutes if you walk the wrong way round. Depending on the time there will be plenty of blues walking up so you will be sound. If itís quiet tho walk around the outside. Not because you might encounter racists, just a smack head goblin might crawl out of his bush and harrass you for money which he definitely wonít use for drugs.
Used to love sitting in the paddock. Right on the linesmans shoulder ready to give him an earful last when he made a wrong decision.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 25, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
Had to stop liking posts because I could do so for 90% of the posts on this thread.

Never been to Goodison myself, I don't want to detract from the theme of this thread by 'explaning' why, just want to say I hope you go for yourself bro :thumbsup:

p.s. if our ground move ends up having some firm dates you can bet your ass I'll be coming back home, I don't think I could live with us moving before I'd seen a match at "The Grand Old Lady"!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 07:05:42 PM


Itís 25 minutes if you walk the wrong way round. Depending on the time there will be plenty of blues walking up so you will be sound. If itís quiet tho walk around the outside. Not because you might encounter racists, just a smack head goblin might crawl out of his bush and harrass you for money which he definitely wonít use for drugs.
Used to love sitting in the paddock. Right on the linesmans shoulder ready to give him an earful last when he made a wrong decision.


Very much appreciated Philly! I might take some dried out pea's and offer them to the smackheads saying its a new form of smack..

lol trying to convince my liverpool supporting friend to come with me, which i think he is up for :D
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: formerKHL on September 25, 2017, 07:11:03 PM
on a different scale racism comes in different guises....I am a scouser living in Yorkshire...there isn't a day goes by when I don't get a "scouse jibe" aimed at me..my wife is Muluccan...so we get it there as well...

I went on  coach once to watch Barnsley at Wembley with some mates, I was meeting a load of my scouse mates there who live in bmouth, on the way down me mates phoned me to ask what time we were due to arrive at the car park...one dickhead on the coach said out loud..." fkkin scousers.. I hate them more than pakis"   (forgive the language)....

I told him I was meeting 20 of me mates at Wembley and they were coming to meet me off the bus so he could tell them that....he shit himself all the way down and never said another word...cowardly mate all of them...
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blue1948 on September 25, 2017, 07:16:08 PM
Very sad to hear ,sorry I picked up on this thread late .I am sure you will be fine but take no notice anyway if it happens ,I know it is easy for me to say but enjoy the game and threaten them with @bally if they say anything .
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 25, 2017, 07:25:11 PM
Attitudes must surely have moved on since 2012 mate hopefully anyway, put a big badge on saying "I AM SANDRO" Ronnie might let you in the Dugout..
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 07:34:59 PM
on a different scale racism comes in different guises....I am a scouser living in Yorkshire...there isn't a day goes by when I don't get a "scouse jibe" aimed at me..my wife is Muluccan...so we get it there as well...

I went on  coach once to watch Barnsley at Wembley with some mates, I was meeting a load of my scouse mates there who live in bmouth, on the way down me mates phoned me to ask what time we were due to arrive at the car park...one dickhead on the coach said out loud..." fkkin scousers.. I hate them more than pakis"   (forgive the language)....

I told him I was meeting 20 of me mates at Wembley and they were coming to meet me off the bus so he could tell them that....he shit himself all the way down and never said another word...cowardly mate all of them...

:(
Im very sorry to hear that, Wish it doesnt happen as much now.
most racists are cowards and ignorant, they will continue to be racist if they get backing/support off of others, or they will do what the shithead did on the coach..

Very sad to hear ,sorry I picked up on this thread late .I am sure you will be fine but take no notice anyway if it happens ,I know it is easy for me to say but enjoy the game and threaten them with @bally if they say anything .

The Notorious Bally..! might just have to buy him a few pints for name dropping :)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Jamokachi on September 25, 2017, 07:41:56 PM
Proper shitty thing to have to experience. I won't patronise you by claiming to understand what it must be like. Suffice to say I hope things have improved in the time you've been away, and don't let the dickheads in society dictate whether or not you can do the things you love, like going the game. Good luck!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
there used to be a lad who helped on here who was (I think) Turkish and a muslim.  He felt the same as you about coming up to the match and was worried he'd be picked out for abuse.

I sat with him a few times.  Once in the Main Stand and the rest of the times in the Paddock, and he never had a word said to him about his colour and as far as I remember (this was ten years ago!) he said he felt comfortable at Goodison.  He brought his younger brother after a few times as well, and he said he felt right at home too.

It's sad that in this day and age people are still made to feel uncomfortable because of the colour of their skin.  As if it matters.  Evertonians used to have a bad reputation for racism, but not anymore. 

I usually park in the Stanley Park car park and it's ten minutes maximum.  Just give yourself a week to get out after the game as it's an absolute nightmare. 

Most of all though, enjoy the game!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 25, 2017, 08:10:02 PM
Proper shitty thing to have to experience. I won't patronise you by claiming to understand what it must be like. Suffice to say I hope things have improved in the time you've been away, and don't let the dickheads in society dictate whether or not you can do the things you love, like going the game. Good luck!

Thank you and respect Jamo.

there used to be a lad who helped on here who was (I think) Turkish and a muslim.  He felt the same as you about coming up to the match and was worried he'd be picked out for abuse.

I sat with him a few times.  Once in the Main Stand and the rest of the times in the Paddock, and he never had a word said to him about his colour and as far as I remember (this was ten years ago!) he said he felt comfortable at Goodison.  He brought his younger brother after a few times as well, and he said he felt right at home too.

It's sad that in this day and age people are still made to feel uncomfortable because of the colour of their skin.  As if it matters.  Evertonians used to have a bad reputation for racism, but not anymore. 

I usually park in the Stanley Park car park and it's ten minutes maximum.  Just give yourself a week to get out after the game as it's an absolute nightmare. 

Most of all though, enjoy the game!

Ive only had issues when i've been with Asians. when ive been with English friends or mixed groups, never any problems..
I was a abit apprehensive as i was going to go on my own, but i dont think that is the case now..

I remember coming back  from the Man utd game., where Vidic scored in the last 10 mins... getting out was ok. the mistake i made was stopping off at Burger King on the motorway.. that took longer than the match!!

Thank you Simon, wish we all enjoy the game. :)

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blargins on September 25, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
Hope you enjoy the game without any issues. Racism at football is absolute hypocrisy, especially this day and age with the multi national teams that clubs put out. I don't think there's anything else to add that hasn't already been covered in this thread. Just enjoy, be yourself and I hope everything goes fine.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toffee1 on September 25, 2017, 09:31:00 PM
Was really sad to read about what you and some of the others have had to go through. Prejudice and racism have no place in our society but that feeling of sadness has diminished by the posts that have followed and the realisation that for every bigot, there are thousands who don't think that way.

There will always be dickheads and I had one this morning who told me to get on a plane and go home (I was born here but am of Mauritian descent). I don't normally respond but as I went to school with his brother and know the family as we used to go to the 8.30 mass on Sundays, I asked him what they would think about what he said to me, as with most of these mindless fools, he had no response.

You have shown great courage to post this and hopefully, you do go to the game on Thursday and see a convincing win.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bluescow on September 25, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
I have always and will always see Evertonians as a good and nice extended family.
If I see someone wearing our jersey I always chat with them.
I have not had any trouble in UK, but at the Brann - Everton match back in 2007 I had a really disapointing and quite shocking  experience.
Was abused and threatned with a good old beat up by some fellow blues. My friend who was with me was shocked and scared for days after the incident.
Im just saying this because as others have mentioned there are some dickheads even amongst our fans.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blargins on September 25, 2017, 09:39:13 PM
I have always and will always see Evertonians as a good and nice extended family.
If I see someone wearing our jersey I always chat with them.
I have not had any trouble in UK, but at the Brann - Everton match back in 2007 I had a really disapointing and quite shocking  experience.
Was abused and threatned with a good old beat up by some fellow blues. My friend who was with me was shocked and scared for days after the incident.
Im just saying this because as others have mentioned there are some dickheads even amongst our fans.


I'm the same. I was in Disney a few years back and saw this dude in an Everton shirt, went up to him and shook his hand. And for me who's an introvert and hates crowds is a big deal. I guess it's so rare to see the jersey over here, unlike Man U or Arsenal which seem to be everywhere. I wouldn't bother if I was a supporter of those clubs as it's so common. I recently gave away a home shirt to the victims of hurricane Harvey amongst other clothes I had. Hopefully it will make a new supporter :)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: dangermouse on September 25, 2017, 09:52:13 PM
You always get knobheads but I feel as a fan base we still get labelled racist because of those infamous banana throwing stunts.

I've not really thought about it before but I think out of all the non white people I know, none of them support Everton.

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 10:31:42 PM
In the past i've just parked in side streets, but i was thinking of parking at Stanley Park,  says its a 25 min walk, but it doesnt look like it on Google,


Toddacelli, fancy comeing along? I can pick you up :d

Lol, i can take abuse, im pretty cheeky too, but i need to stay out of trouble.. To me its more of an issue of being on my own and walking through the area. lol :s
It's deffo not 25 minutes from Stanley park, it's not even that from my house, if you're parking there and walking over though man you'll be with a bucket load of blue anyway so you will be sound, oh and it's not you that get the abuse from me just the people you meet hahah
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: phillyt on September 25, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
on a different scale racism comes in different guises....I am a scouser living in Yorkshire...there isn't a day goes by when I don't get a "scouse jibe" aimed at me..my wife is Muluccan...so we get it there as well...

I went on  coach once to watch Barnsley at Wembley with some mates, I was meeting a load of my scouse mates there who live in bmouth, on the way down me mates phoned me to ask what time we were due to arrive at the car park...one dickhead on the coach said out loud..." fkkin scousers.. I hate them more than pakis"   (forgive the language)....

I told him I was meeting 20 of me mates at Wembley and they were coming to meet me off the bus so he could tell them that....he shit himself all the way down and never said another word...cowardly mate all of them...

I have a similar experience to this most days. I have a West Country accent and live in Liverpool. Everyday I come across some prick who assumes Iím a red shite fan.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 25, 2017, 10:35:34 PM
:(
Im very sorry to hear that, Wish it doesnt happen as much now.
most racists are cowards and ignorant, they will continue to be racist if they get backing/support off of others, or they will do what the shithead did on the coach..

The Notorious Bally..! might just have to buy him a few pints for name dropping :)
Fucking drop it as much as you want mate hahaha you may actually get someone who knows me hahaha
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
Horrendous that anyone has this experience I hope that there is a degree of fans self policing this shit.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2017, 11:27:24 PM
We have a bit of a rep as a racist club don't we? Or we used to at least.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: 74Blue on September 25, 2017, 11:38:38 PM
That's really sad to hear a fellow blue feeling uncomfortable going to watch his team. It's sad, but true that every club has an ignorant bell end element. If you want to go the match, you should be able to go without having to endure racist bollocks. It doesn't matter what creed or colour you are, you are a football fan and more importantly a fellow blue.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2017, 11:46:14 PM
We have a bit of a rep as a racist club don't we? Or we used to at least.

Back in the eighties yeah.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Gary1878 on September 25, 2017, 11:51:25 PM
Racists use their club to spit vitriol at others and vent their aggression. They exist at every club, but we should do everything in our power to make sure it stops as soon as it happens, and ban these idiots.

They might be fans of our club, but they don't hold the values and ethics that make us proud to be Evertonians. I am not from Liverpool, but I have lived in the city for 3 years, and the majority of people are very welcoming and friendly, and always willing help eachother. Racists disgrace both the city and the club, and anyone seeing or hearing it has a duty to do something about it to protect not only the fan, but the institutional integrity and image of Everton.

We do not want it at our club, so it is up to the fans not to put up with it.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: winny5366 on September 25, 2017, 11:58:53 PM
In the past i've just parked in side streets, but i was thinking of parking at Stanley Park,  says its a 25 min walk, but it doesnt look like it on Google,


Toddacelli, fancy comeing along? I can pick you up :d

Lol, i can take abuse, im pretty cheeky too, but i need to stay out of trouble.. To me its more of an issue of being on my own and walking through the area. lol :s

Let me know of any future games you go to, if we are there you can always tag along with us.
I don't get to go on as much as I would like nowadays due to work but I make the effort to as often as I can.

Enjoy the game!!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 26, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
I'm sure an old poster on here Rich mentioned he had been assaulted before at an Everton game because he never had a scouse accent.

As been said before, don't let the knobheads win.  There is knobs everywhere in life.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 12:08:36 AM
Let me know of any future games you go to, if we are there you can always tag along with us.
I don't get to go on as much as I would like nowadays due to work but I make the effort to as often as I can.

Enjoy the game!!

Thank you Winny, & welcome to NSNO.

Where are you from bud?

be nice to find some fellow blues from the midlands, to attend matches with :D

Sorry to hear that Deano, some people are knobs.
What was the banana incident?  I know our club used to give Barnes abuse, but back in the 80's most clubs had a big element of racism, I think the racism prolonged the hooliganism. (get a different set of hooligans into the ground)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toffee1 on September 26, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Thank you Winny, & welcome to NSNO.

Where are you from bud?

be nice to find some fellow blues from the midlands, to attend matches with :D

Sorry to hear that Deano, some people are knobs.
What was the banana incident?  I know our club used to give Barnes abuse, but back in the 80's most clubs had a big element of racism, I think the racism prolonged the hooliganism. (get a different set of hooligans into the ground)

I remember the picture of John Barnes back heeling a banana at Goodison that had been thrown in his direction - probably be a picture of it on the internet as most of the red tops had it on their back page after that derby.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: winny5366 on September 26, 2017, 12:45:11 AM
Thank you Winny, & welcome to NSNO.

Where are you from bud? I am from Preston mate, not too far away.

be nice to find some fellow blues from the midlands, to attend matches with :D

Sorry to hear that Deano, some people are knobs.
What was the banana incident?  I know our club used to give Barnes abuse, but back in the 80's most clubs had a big element of racism, I think the racism prolonged the hooliganism. (get a different set of hooligans into the ground)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Confucius on September 26, 2017, 01:09:22 AM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on September 26, 2017, 01:12:35 AM
As has been mentioned in previous posts sorry to hear about your experiences. This is a small minority of fans which exists at most clubs

In my biased opinion I believe our fans are brilliant and very welcoming.
I come up to Goodison for handful of games each season and will do again this season, touchwood I haven't endured or heard any snide and racist comments. If I did I would report it to the club or a police officer. I sat in all four areas of the ground last season and everyone of those fans be it on the left, right, front or behind made an effort with me and engaging in good conversation and debates surrounding Everton. I even had one lady offer me her lunch and a bags of sweets! Such amazing generosity. I meet up with a season ticket holder friend in the pub after the game with his family and other people. Everyone is friendly. I can't say a bad word about the Everton family.

My advice to you is don't let that experience deter you. Go to Goodison and enjoy watching and supporting your beloved club.
Let us know how it goes.

Stanley park car park is about 10-15 mins walk through the park or sticking to the main road.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Realist on September 26, 2017, 01:17:53 AM
Pathetic bell ends mate, fuck them. Join up with a few off here to walk to the games with, if you're with @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) you might even end up on fan tv 👍
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 01:20:12 AM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.

Its fine Con, it wouldnt happen now.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:23:32 AM
im pretty outspoken and dont care what people say, it never effects me... i just laugh and troll harder :p

but due to shit in my personal life, i can do without that hassle, i just want to enjoy the games.

by the sounds of it, things have changed(as they should have) since i had those experiences ten or so years ago..

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 26, 2017, 04:05:49 AM
I'm sure an old poster on here Rich mentioned he had been assaulted before at an Everton game because he never had a scouse accent.

As been said before, don't let the knobheads win.  There is knobs everywhere in life.
Mate he was told the club had sold out because he's from Oxford... Last week in tenerife


Honestly he text me, I told him to go punch the soft cunt.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 26, 2017, 04:08:37 AM
Its fine Con, it wouldnt happen now.


It does still happen unfortunately. Nowhere near as much, but thankfully it's the odd dickhead and not a handful.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 04:30:25 AM
on a different scale racism comes in different guises....I am a scouser living in Yorkshire...there isn't a day goes by when I don't get a "scouse jibe" aimed at me..my wife is Muluccan...so we get it there as well...

I had to google that immediately
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 26, 2017, 04:52:59 AM
I had to google that immediately
Yeah I had to Google that too, never ever heard the word
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
Yeah I had to Google that too, never ever heard the word

Me neither I got the parrots at first I was like what the fuck am I missing here.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 26, 2017, 03:44:53 PM
Mate he was told the club had sold out because he's from Oxford... Last week in tenerife


Honestly he text me, I told him to go punch the soft cunt.

Send him my wishes over Bally.

Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.

I am sad that you feel this way. Although I'm sure you will be fine.  You'll also be better going to a home than away, but if you had the choice, go to both.  The away games are class.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: TheRam on September 26, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.

There's no need to be worried. It'll be sound
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Mick 1995 on September 26, 2017, 04:11:48 PM
If you're worried about this then an away game is the absolute worst thing you can consider @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196)
I've yet to go to an away game that hasn't had me pulling people/walking away from some racist pricks. Granted, i only go a handful a year, but it tends to be full of the hardcore head-the-balls.

If walking down the street in Liverpool on a Saturday afternoon would be too intimidating for you then so would going to Goodison on a matchday. I would say your chances of bumping into a racist element is as likely in either. (i.e. slim, but unfortunately not zero).


p.s Too short notice for me to offer for @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) , but if you give me a nod i'd be more than happy to meet up and mooch about with you if it reassured you.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Major Clanger on September 26, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.

Things always look worse from afar.

Wary yes, but seriously worried you don't need to be.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 10:27:55 PM
I'll try to livestream any racists things i see, ill try not to stream the match as Audrey will tool me :( :p

but i see tooling as love.. so :p

I really doubt i will have any issues, The main thing i wanted to know was, how comes they're aren't as many Asians/blacks in attendance at Goodison compared to other teams. but a couple of posts educated me.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 26, 2017, 10:59:37 PM
We have a bit of a rep as a racist club don't we? Or we used to at least.

One of the last clubs if not the last to have a black player, or something like that.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 26, 2017, 11:43:49 PM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.

I responded to another quote without actually seeing your original post sorry. I thought someone was talking in general in the UK.

You'll be sound! I go the game with an Asian guy quite a lot and he's never had a thing said to him. He is 6ft odd and built like a brick shithouse, but that's besides the point.
Heard the odd black shout aimed at players many years ago, not at me (tbh you wouldn't know from looking at me I have a black grandparent) but I've bought it up with the stewards after the game and they're usually helpful? That was many years ago though.

Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 26, 2017, 11:49:03 PM
I'll try to livestream any racists things i see, ill try not to stream the match as Audrey will tool me :( :p

but i see tooling as love.. so :p

I really doubt i will have any issues, The main thing i wanted to know was, how comes they're aren't as many Asians/blacks in attendance at Goodison compared to other teams. but a couple of posts educated me.

It's probably just due to the fact that there aren't as many Asian/black communities in Liverpool compared to other big cities. I wouldn't read too much in to it.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 27, 2017, 12:44:52 AM
Can this not be reported to the club directly? And not just the fans forum?

I am also of Indian descent and Muslim and as most of you know, quite outspoken and sometimes quick to comment. I wouldn't shut up at abuse or even stares etc. I am planning a UK trip in the next little while. Is Goodison safe for me? Or should I rather see Everton play in an away game?

Seriously worried about this.
Nah fuck that lad you'll be sound plus I'll be making sure I'm around to meet you, I can't guarantee it for Thursday, you'll be getting the full Bally welcome
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Confucius on September 27, 2017, 01:04:39 AM
I would definitely meet all of you once it is ll planned out but I would like to know that i wouldn't need "protection"
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 27, 2017, 01:18:52 AM
I would definitely meet all of you once it is ll planned out but I would like to know that i wouldn't need "protection"

you dont need protection, you would be fine.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Cassius on September 27, 2017, 01:32:38 AM
Sorry to hear that @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) always rough to hear that sort of thing happening, really feel for you.

I once watched us against West Brom, think it was the game that Rooney stood on the ball. Anyway, I was sat near the away fans and they were shouting some pretty awful stuff at Lie Tie and a bunch of our fans shouted over to them calling them out as being racist idiots. First time I've seen that at a game. So we do have some decent people too  :)

However I've also been in the away end watching us and hearing some equally awful stuff.

But never to a fellow blue, which makes this worse.

@Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) I'll come along and protect you. I understand Scouse and speak fluent South African bru, so I can translate for you.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 27, 2017, 01:34:17 AM
I would definitely meet all of you once it is ll planned out but I would like to know that i wouldn't need "protection"

A pack of Trojans would suffice.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blue slug on September 27, 2017, 01:36:50 AM
im pretty outspoken and dont care what people say, it never effects me... i just laugh and troll harder :p

but due to shit in my personal life, i can do without that hassle, i just want to enjoy the games.

by the sounds of it, things have changed(as they should have) since i had those experiences ten or so years ago..



It's disgusting behaviour and you shouldn't have to hear it, makes me feel ashamed if I'm honest. Things have changed and I hope these minority of Neanderthal fucktards don't stop you going and having a great experience fella
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 27, 2017, 01:43:52 AM
It's disgusting behaviour and you shouldn't have to hear it, makes me feel ashamed if I'm honest. Things have changed and I hope these minority of Neanderthal fucktards don't stop you going and having a great experience fella

I know Bud, but its part of everyday life unfortunately. I've got mixed race children (english and indian) my ex had blonde hair blue eyes,, used to get so many looks and awkward fuckers who would just look in disgust..
Got it  worse in rural areas.

Was afraid a few years ago, there seemed to be a rise of far right political parties all across europe, quiet a lot of the masses where voting for them too!! (England,Front National in France,AFD in Germany, Golden Dawn in Greece, PVV in Holland plus countless others in smaller EU countries..)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: TheTone on September 27, 2017, 01:51:53 AM
I were called a dirty white bastid one time when I were in Portugal by some african lids

didn't bother me at all

I am dirty minded and all like
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blue slug on September 27, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
I know Bud, but its part of everyday life unfortunately. I've got mixed race children (english and indian) my ex had blonde hair blue eyes,, used to get so many looks and awkward fuckers who would just look in disgust..
Got it  worse in rural areas.

Was afraid a few years ago, there seemed to be a rise of far right political parties all across europe, quiet a lot of the masses where voting for them too!! (England,Front National in France,AFD in Germany, Golden Dawn in Greece, PVV in Holland plus countless others in smaller EU countries..)

My best mate is married to an Indian lady but we live in Stafford which is a small town and don't really see rascism or at least I haven't in the last decade or so
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 27, 2017, 02:31:28 AM
My best mate is married to an Indian lady but we live in Stafford which is a small town and don't really see rascism or at least I haven't in the last decade or so

I know Stafford, its about 13 miles from me, I was supposed to go and see my friend up there today, but doing it on Friday now instead, I live in Walsall.. Awesome to find a Bluenose so close :D
Nice to meet you Mr Blue Slug
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: arteta4spain on September 27, 2017, 02:45:11 AM
Horrible subject but lovely thread. The amount of support is heartwarming and i wouldn't expect anything less from the nsno family. :-)
Horrible to hear and when I've heard stuff I roll my eyes and tbh don't say anything because I can't be arsed with the hassle but I suppose we all should tell them to fuck off.
Half tempted to go tomorrow so if pm me your number and we can meet up if you want. :-)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 27, 2017, 02:52:30 AM
Enjoy the match brother. Be proud be safe - smack em in the gob.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: blue slug on September 27, 2017, 03:25:34 AM
I know Stafford, its about 13 miles from me, I was supposed to go and see my friend up there today, but doing it on Friday now instead, I live in Walsall.. Awesome to find a Bluenose so close :D
Nice to meet you Mr Blue Slug

Good to meet you too buddy
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 27, 2017, 03:54:29 AM
Just to clarify though man, I know I've been semi joking around, but anything you did experience I would say has definitely dissipated now, you will be safe and sound man.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toddacelli on September 27, 2017, 04:58:46 AM
Me neither I got the parrots at first I was like what the fuck am I missing here.

Haha! Me too!

Glad to see the level of support on here. Easy to type though. I hope we'd all stand up and be counted if it happened in front of us. It's on all of us to not let this go unchallenged.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Enjoy the game tomorrow and report any insults, should they occur

("The Brummie with that Kopite" doesn't count!)
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 28, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
Sorry quick question. If i download the tickets, how do i use them?
is it better just to print them?
can i collect them at goodison?

thankies x
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: KevtheRat on September 28, 2017, 03:52:46 PM
Sorry quick question. If i download the tickets, how do i use them?
is it better just to print them?
can i collect them at goodison?

thankies x

Print them off mate and scan the barcode at the turnstile.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 28, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
Print them off mate and scan the barcode at the turnstile.

I didnt really want to print them.. lol was hoping i could scan the barcode after downloading them :)

Ill print them now, thank you Kev!
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toffee1 on September 28, 2017, 07:46:57 PM
Hope you have a great time @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) and the boys get a convincing and entertaining win.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 29, 2017, 12:36:14 AM
Sorry quick question. If i download the tickets, how do i use them?
is it better just to print them?
can i collect them at goodison?

thankies x
Print them
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 29, 2017, 04:41:24 PM
Had no issues at the match :D Saw a Jamaican lad with a wicked afro, going into the ground.. :D also by where we where sitting, there was a couple of Oriental peoples. a couple behind me and a younger lad further down.. lots of people seem to know this dude... felt good.. spoke to the old geezer next to during the match a bit.. all pretty awesome..

match over..lots of nice blues walking along.... got to   i dont know the name of the road.. Was waiting to cross the road, by Baileys cafe i think its called.. (my car was parked on a private drive on Netley street) was just waiting for the last car to drive past.. a black SUV type thing was driving past.. the window was rolled down a bit and the guy should Pakie, while trying to disguise it as a cough.. i just giggled to myself.. my friend (who is Gujarati) and I walked across the road, through to the other side of Netley road, got in the car.. he started to roll a joint as he did..I asked him.. did you hear the guy shout Paki at us, He replied when? i said as we where crossing the road,, it sounded like a cough, he replied I heard the cough but i didnt hear what he was saying..

didnt bother me at all.. lol wasnt even on my mind before during or after the match.. just 20 metres from getting into my car..

Im pretty sure they would have been Everton fans. as i dont know who else would be driving/out then in that area/at that time..

should have looked at the number plate, but it wasnt an issue.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on September 29, 2017, 04:58:07 PM
Had no issues at the match :D Saw a Jamaican lad with a wicked afro, going into the ground.. :D also by where we where sitting, there was a couple of Oriental peoples. a couple behind me and a younger lad further down.. lots of people seem to know this dude... felt good.. spoke to the old geezer next to during the match a bit.. all pretty awesome..

match over..lots of nice blues walking along.... got to   i dont know the name of the road.. Was waiting to cross the road, by Baileys cafe i think its called.. (my car was parked on a private drive on Netley street) was just waiting for the last car to drive past.. a black SUV type thing was driving past.. the window was rolled down a bit and the guy should Pakie, while trying to disguise it as a cough.. i just giggled to myself.. my friend (who is Gujarati) and I walked across the road, through to the other side of Netley road, got in the car.. he started to roll a joint as he did..I asked him.. did you hear the guy shout Paki at us, He replied when? i said as we where crossing the road,, it sounded like a cough, he replied I heard the cough but i didnt hear what he was saying..

didnt bother me at all.. lol wasnt even on my mind before during or after the match.. just 20 metres from getting into my car..

Im pretty sure they would have been Everton fans. as i dont know who else would be driving/out then in that area/at that time..

should have looked at the number plate, but it wasnt an issue.
Mate glad you enjoyed and experienced the friendliness that it actually is, I'm quite proud of what it has become, it's shows Evertonians can adapt, especially from what it was.
The one incident could of been any soft cunt around Netley St mate its one of the shittier streets around here, so glad is was an enjoyable experience though.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Redartin on October 01, 2017, 03:03:27 PM
I were called a dirty white bastid one time when I were in Portugal by some african lids

 :shock:
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Had no issues at the match :D Saw a Jamaican lad with a wicked afro, going into the ground.. :D also by where we where sitting, there was a couple of Oriental peoples. a couple behind me and a younger lad further down.. lots of people seem to know this dude... felt good.. spoke to the old geezer next to during the match a bit.. all pretty awesome..

match over..lots of nice blues walking along.... got to   i dont know the name of the road.. Was waiting to cross the road, by Baileys cafe i think its called.. (my car was parked on a private drive on Netley street) was just waiting for the last car to drive past.. a black SUV type thing was driving past.. the window was rolled down a bit and the guy should Pakie, while trying to disguise it as a cough.. i just giggled to myself.. my friend (who is Gujarati) and I walked across the road, through to the other side of Netley road, got in the car.. he started to roll a joint as he did..I asked him.. did you hear the guy shout Paki at us, He replied when? i said as we where crossing the road,, it sounded like a cough, he replied I heard the cough but i didnt hear what he was saying..

didnt bother me at all.. lol wasnt even on my mind before during or after the match.. just 20 metres from getting into my car..

Im pretty sure they would have been Everton fans. as i dont know who else would be driving/out then in that area/at that time..

should have looked at the number plate, but it wasnt an issue.

Ugh, cunt at the end 😠

Glad the rest of the day was cool, though, mate 👍🏼
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 05:21:16 PM
It happens, Liverpool is the main city ive found it in tho.. quite a few rural places and towns too, but  never in another city..

it is what it is..

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A big thank you to everyone who has contributed and shared their experiences. <3
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: phillyt on October 01, 2017, 06:21:38 PM
It happens, Liverpool is the main city ive found it in tho.. quite a few rural places and towns too, but  never in another city..

it is what it is..

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22045825_183476582196855_2744380335831137623_n.jpg?oh=e4cc62a122004525dc4d95ca53d68c4d&oe=5A409DF1)

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed and shared their experiences. <3

You will find that in bigger cities you will face more open brutalist racism. The working classes/poorer demographics who are of of a particular mindset or upbringing will generally think less about this. 
In the countryside, there are generally more affluent folk and they tend to be more two faced and like a bit of tokenism. They will befriend and ďadoptĒ a minority. They will tell their other middle class friends all about how terrible blacks/asians/orientals are but feel they have a right to say that because they like one they can criticise the rest. They will also jump on any criticism you make of your own race, justifying it because you said it.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Bally on October 02, 2017, 04:03:59 AM
It happens, Liverpool is the main city ive found it in tho.. quite a few rural places and towns too, but  never in another city..

it is what it is..

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22045825_183476582196855_2744380335831137623_n.jpg?oh=e4cc62a122004525dc4d95ca53d68c4d&oe=5A409DF1)

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed and shared their experiences. <3
I' am Very very surprised that Liverpool is the only city you've experienced this in, when we have one of the largest Chinese /Asian communities and a massive Sri Lankan community along with a growing Eastern European community, it disappoints me that you've experienced this here, in my fucking city.
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: everton1952 on October 02, 2017, 04:08:49 AM
About time this thread was buried. Enough has been said  without endless repetition..
Title: Re: not an easy question to ask..
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Had no issues at the match :D Saw a Jamaican lad with a wicked afro, going into the ground.. :D also by where we where sitting, there was a couple of Oriental peoples. a couple behind me and a younger lad further down.. lots of people seem to know this dude... felt good.. spoke to the old geezer next to during the match a bit.. all pretty awesome..

match over..lots of nice blues walking along.... got to   i dont know the name of the road.. Was waiting to cross the road, by Baileys cafe i think its called.. (my car was parked on a private drive on Netley street) was just waiting for the last car to drive past.. a black SUV type thing was driving past.. the window was rolled down a bit and the guy should Pakie, while trying to disguise it as a cough.. i just giggled to myself.. my friend (who is Gujarati) and I walked across the road, through to the other side of Netley road, got in the car.. he started to roll a joint as he did..I asked him.. did you hear the guy shout Paki at us, He replied when? i said as we where crossing the road,, it sounded like a cough, he replied I heard the cough but i didnt hear what he was saying..

didnt bother me at all.. lol wasnt even on my mind before during or after the match.. just 20 metres from getting into my car..

Im pretty sure they would have been Everton fans. as i dont know who else would be driving/out then in that area/at that time..

should have looked at the number plate, but it wasnt an issue.

Glad you enjoyed it bud!

Don't let the bastards grind you down   :)