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Title: Bolasie
Post by: mikey_blue on September 26, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
Sorry if there's already a thread. Couldn't find one!

If you're a follower of Bolasie on Twitter, then you may have seen the video of him training and actually kicking a ball.

Can't wait for him and Coleman to get back. What an upgrade our right hand side will have.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Ridge on September 26, 2017, 08:04:26 PM
https://twitter.com/YannickBolasie/status/912639464941506561
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on September 26, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
The man is a magician

Can't wait to see him back on pitch, frustrating the fuck out of us all yet again
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
Isn't Coleman due back next Month?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: mikey_blue on September 26, 2017, 08:28:25 PM
Isn't Coleman due back next Month?

Similar sort of time scales. Neither have started training with the first team, but from what I can gather, Coleman is a little further on in his recovery.

God we miss him.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 26, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
Striker aside, bolasie is the missing link for me. Bit of pace and direct play to take us up the field quick. The rest can play intricate stuff but then he can whip in a mean ball
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Tofifee on September 26, 2017, 08:46:59 PM
i said this in the Bournemath game thread, but it amuses me (and other GENUINE Yannick fans) how many lads on here, not talking about Mikey here, who suddendly are heralding the return of Yannick like a returning God! Before his injury the VAST majority of comment on here was negative, he was getting flak for all sorts, from poor delivery, waste of money, to one lad blaming him for James Comey re-opening Hillarys email file
Similarly pre Seamus injury you had lads here saying he wasn't half the player he used to be, saying we needed to start Holgate/Garbutt/Kenny etc etc
Much like if Morgan/Gylfi or Sandro were to get injured tomorrow and were coming back in 6 months time everyone would say we missed them terribly and it was great for them to be back, where as right now, the same lads are as popular around these parts as a dose of the clap!
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: formerKHL on September 26, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
well his knees look fine while pissing about.....
just like to see how his cruciate stands up to kicking a ball with power, whilst on the run and when he's stopping/turning at pace...

could be a while yet lads...
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: mikey_blue on September 26, 2017, 09:09:38 PM
i said this in the Bournemath game thread, but it amuses me (and other GENUINE Yannick fans) how many lads on here, not talking about Mikey here, who suddendly are heralding the return of Yannick like a returning God! Before his injury the VAST majority of comment on here was negative, he was getting flak for all sorts, from poor delivery, waste of money, to one lad blaming him for James Comey re-opening Hillarys email file
Similarly pre Seamus injury you had lads here saying he wasn't half the player he used to be, saying we needed to start Holgate/Garbutt/Kenny etc etc
Much like if Morgan/Gylfi or Sandro were to get injured tomorrow and were coming back in 6 months time everyone would say we missed them terribly and it was great for them to be back, where as right now, the same lads are as popular around these parts as a dose of the clap!


There's an old saying, mate. "You don't realise what you've got, until Cuco Martina is your only option for width" And In this instance, I think it's incredibly poignant.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: kramer0 on September 26, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
It'll be nice to have some unpredictability in attack again.

Right now, the only player we have who does anything unexpected is Cuco Martina. And that's in defense, which is not at all where you want that sort of behavior.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 26, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
In one of the press conferences last week, Koeman said November for both Coleman and Bolasie.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: formerKHL on September 26, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
I used to really enjoy the rare occasions when bolasie and delefeou played...you never knew what you'd get..but it was usually something unpredictable....me son used to go mad ...but I used to love it....


I think that's part of the problem with mirallas...too predictable...
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Gary1878 on September 26, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
The real test of these injuries is in the tackle. First step is to get him back into training and to become competitive again with teammates. Then step it up to football with U23s. Then bench and sub appearances. Then first team.

It is still a long road ahead for him and I would imagine December is more realistic, maybe even January to get him properly up to speed again. He needs patience with such a serious injury.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 10:19:42 PM
Wish he's back as soon as possible and when he's 100% ready..

Still that doesnt sort the issues now.. and if he's injured again or out for a few games (ban) then we must surely have other similar options... I  guess Lookman is one.. but I feel he's not ready for the 1st team in the premier..

If Coleman is back earlier,, i wouldnt mind Coleman and Kenny on the right hand side.. I think that would be pretty solid and will help Coleman as he wont need to have the whole wing to himself.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluedylan on September 26, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
bolasie is the missing link for me

Racist
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Cozzie on September 26, 2017, 10:40:47 PM
I personally think our lack of a wide/pacy player in the window was down to Koeman maybe thinking he will just hang fire until Bolasie and Coleman are back.

Bit risky as I don't feel either will return the same players, at least not until next season.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2017, 11:31:02 PM
I personally think our lack of a wide/pacy player in the window was down to Koeman maybe thinking he will just hang fire until Bolasie and Coleman are back.

Bit risky as I don't feel either will return the same players, at least not until next season.

Not sure about 1st sentence.

Agree 100% with the 2nd though.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: bluenuck on September 26, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
I'm calling 2 games till we see the moans about him being useless and he crosses it to nobody.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: toffee_scot on September 26, 2017, 11:48:04 PM
Given the fact that Bolasie will have been out for approximately a year, we don't know if his injury will have had a permanent impact on his game, in other words, will he still possess great pace and is he bound to have recurring injury problems as a result of that big injury? I hope we are not placing too much hope in him coming back so soon if we could ease him back slowly and see what role he can play for the 2nd half of the season.

Same applies to Seamus Coleman although I am hoping that Kenny will step up as a right back because I am not comfortable at all with Martina in that position.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 12:04:27 AM
Sad to say but I can't see him returning to the player he was.

The way he would run on the ball, was practically falling over himself but somehow staying upright. Was so hard to defend against, as I don't think even he knew exactly how he would move.  Post ACL surgery I can't see him having the confidence or strength to put that kind of pressure and those angles on his knees that are needed to move how he usually does.

On top of that, received wisdom is a player takes 12-18 months to get back to full strength post surgery. By which time he is in his 30s.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 27, 2017, 12:10:08 AM
Good thing is that both players strike me as extremely wily. I think they'd both be able to compensate somewhat for any pace they lose.

With both, I worry most about being able to cut across the pitch laterally.

Kenny being able to pitch in should take some pressure off, as does the move to a 4-4-2 or 4-3-1-2. Assuming one or both actually is a lasting change, and Koeman doesn't fall back on old Cuco/Rooney first habits.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on September 27, 2017, 01:17:05 AM
i said this in the Bournemath game thread, but it amuses me (and other GENUINE Yannick fans) how many lads on here, not talking about Mikey here, who suddendly are heralding the return of Yannick like a returning God! Before his injury the VAST majority of comment on here was negative, he was getting flak for all sorts, from poor delivery, waste of money, to one lad blaming him for James Comey re-opening Hillarys email file
Similarly pre Seamus injury you had lads here saying he wasn't half the player he used to be, saying we needed to start Holgate/Garbutt/Kenny etc etc
Much like if Morgan/Gylfi or Sandro were to get injured tomorrow and were coming back in 6 months time everyone would say we missed them terribly and it was great for them to be back, where as right now, the same lads are as popular around these parts as a dose of the clap!


Martina makes the heart grow fonder.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 27, 2017, 02:31:21 AM
Not a single keepy uppy??? Get rid as soon as he's for.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Running Blue on September 27, 2017, 06:18:19 AM
i said this in the Bournemath game thread, but it amuses me (and other GENUINE Yannick fans) how many lads on here, not talking about Mikey here, who suddendly are heralding the return of Yannick like a returning God! Before his injury the VAST majority of comment on here was negative, he was getting flak for all sorts, from poor delivery, waste of money, to one lad blaming him for James Comey re-opening Hillarys email file
Similarly pre Seamus injury you had lads here saying he wasn't half the player he used to be, saying we needed to start Holgate/Garbutt/Kenny etc etc
Much like if Morgan/Gylfi or Sandro were to get injured tomorrow and were coming back in 6 months time everyone would say we missed them terribly and it was great for them to be back, where as right now, the same lads are as popular around these parts as a dose of the clap!


I'm glad you were able to get that off your chest.  Can we go back to being happy that Bolassie and Coleman are coming back now?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: ally2 on September 27, 2017, 04:51:06 PM
Watching that video, I can only imagine how annoying he'd be to play against. I got done pretty much every trick just watching.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2017, 04:56:58 PM
I miss his song
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: formerKHL on September 27, 2017, 05:51:44 PM
the biggest issue with these type of injuries to both bolasie and coleman...is the mental side once they return...

there's always the fear factor in the back of your mind of being injured again....takes a few games to get past that....

once past it... I think they'll be fine with all other aspects of their game..
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 27, 2017, 06:34:22 PM
Watching that video annoys me
He doesn't need all them tricks and over half the time when he uses them it is to the detriment of his dribble

When he uses raw pace and strength he looks very dangerous