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Title: McCarthy
Post by: everton1952 on September 26, 2017, 10:41:08 PM
McCarthy is back in training at Everton, although I don't remember Keoman saying how far he is off availability for selection. He has been named in the Ireland squad for the forthcoming World Cup games including the cruncher with Wales. Should Koerman resume hostilities with O'Neill if McCarthy is picked to play for his country without getting a game at Everton first?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Macca77 on September 26, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
I completely forgot he still plays for us
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: School of Science on September 26, 2017, 10:45:21 PM
Well that's him injured again, cheers O'Neill.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: toffee_scot on September 26, 2017, 11:59:10 PM
What the hell is going on with all these recurring injuries.

Since O'Neill loves him, it would have been great if we could have got the Football Association of Ireland to bid £20m for him so he can play for Ireland whenever he wants and wouldn't be a concern to Koeman or Everton anymore.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Shogun on September 27, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
Least favourite player in recent times.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: howard1334 on September 27, 2017, 02:16:17 AM
Both he and Ireland have been incredibly irresponsible. So short-sighted.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blue slug on September 27, 2017, 02:22:22 AM
One we should be moving on, can't stand the twat
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: TheTone on September 27, 2017, 02:30:24 AM
he'll be boss for 3 games around xmas then get injured again and be out for the season
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Toddacelli on September 27, 2017, 04:38:14 AM
Needs to join Cleverly at Watford.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Heisenberg on September 27, 2017, 04:50:11 AM
I'm sick of his round orange head. Wish we'd of sold him
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blargins on September 27, 2017, 05:18:42 AM
I completely forgot he still plays for us

Me too.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 27, 2017, 05:22:31 AM
McGeady, McCarthy...McfuckinDonalds.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: brap2 on September 27, 2017, 05:36:14 AM
McCarthy is back in training at Everton, although I don't remember Keoman saying how far he is off availability for selection. He has been named in the Ireland squad for the forthcoming World Cup games including the cruncher with Wales. Should Koerman resume hostilities with O'Neill if McCarthy is picked to play for his country without getting a game at Everton first?

He said about two weeks ago he might be ready for the weekend so feeling like he's not far off?

Would he play? I was a really big fan after his first year but I'm a notoriously poor judge of players haha. I'd rather have Gueye or Davies in there and I think I'd rather risk Morgan be able to get some form back because he's better on the ball. Maybe in the cup instead of Besic?

Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tinga on September 27, 2017, 05:48:14 AM
I still think he has something to offer, he was never an awful player the way people seem to go on.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Shogun on September 27, 2017, 05:56:09 AM
I still think he has something to offer, he was never an awful player the way people seem to go on.

The whole Ireland fiasco has really put me off him.

He knows as well as anyone not called Martin O'Neil that he's struggled for fitness for a long time and he should be politely rejecting these call ups. It's clear he doesn't give a fuck about playing for us and should have left in the summer.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Jamokachi on September 27, 2017, 11:24:39 AM
I still think he has something to offer, he was never an awful player the way people seem to go on.

And I think Koeman like him too, and thinks he has something to offer.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 01:48:25 PM
Neither use nor ornament to us. Move him on and put the money towards a new centre half.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 27, 2017, 01:50:42 PM
This national call up is a piss take.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Mac934 on September 27, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
I guess the club that pays his salary have no say in the matter then? Otherwise why don't the club just say he's not available as he is unfit, as he has been all season. Doesn't say much for the Irish squad if they are even selecting him.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 27, 2017, 04:00:01 PM
I despise that jack in the box who manages Ireland. Get rid of McCarthy too. Badly let us down by not having the sense to say no to a call-up on a couple of occasions now.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
Just a shame we still have to deal with them idiots over Coleman once McCarthy goes.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 27, 2017, 04:23:38 PM
Just a shame we still have to deal with them idiots over Coleman once McCarthy goes.
Half expected to see Coleman getting called up
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: formerKHL on September 27, 2017, 04:49:47 PM
Brings lots of energy to the team, breaks play up well, defends well, connects well with other players, when he scores (rarely) they're usually good goals......what's not to like ?

hardly his fault he gets international call ups.....not likely to refuse his country....it's more EFC fault for allowing him to go if not 100%...then EFC gets bad press if they don't allow him to go.......

He/it's been unfortunate he's been injured last couple of times playing for his country...could've just as easily been injured playing for us...EFC shouldn't have let him go when he was not 100%.....who dya blame ?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: ally2 on September 27, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
The last few years he was unbearable to watch. But I can't pretend that his first couple of years he was excellent. Even now he's the perfect destroyer and probably better than Besic.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: TheTone on September 27, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
I guess the club that pays his salary have no say in the matter then? Otherwise why don't the club just say he's not available as he is unfit, as he has been all season. Doesn't say much for the Irish squad if they are even selecting him.

Oh we have a truly awful squad, it's embarrassing to watch them play, we are the Sunderland of international football
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: formerKHL on September 27, 2017, 05:44:54 PM
Oh we have a truly awful squad, it's embarrassing to watch them play, we are the Sunderland of international football

TBF they do tend to punch above their weight though don't they every now and again....do you think that's the O'neil factor or just the players... or just luck of the irish.....Tone?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: TheTone on September 27, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
TBF they do tend to punch above their weight though don't they every now and again....do you think that's the O'neil factor or just the players... or just luck of the irish.....Tone?

The team used always be sprinkled with a few excellent players,in recent times like  Robbie Keane, Shay Given,Damien Duff etc , and we always had a chance in games,now it's full of dross that even the best managers in the world could do nowt with

what's more worrying is that there doesn't seem to be any younger players coming through either
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: formerKHL on September 27, 2017, 06:12:12 PM
Shame that because the fan base is excellent but I think obviously realise that the player pool is not a never ending pit...

Lets hope there's another Jack Charltonesq person in there somewhere who can research player's family trees and stump up a few "irish" foreigners..
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Robioto on September 27, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
I completely forgot he still plays for us

Same here...
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tofifee on September 28, 2017, 04:29:52 PM
often thought he was a footballing centre half being played out of position
Could be a Gary Cahill type CB if he had been played there earlier in his career
Probably too late now
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueForYou on September 28, 2017, 05:03:14 PM
I seem to recall Jags being a bit of a midfielder (right back, even) before settling for the CB role

Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: mikey_blue on September 28, 2017, 05:25:19 PM
I seem to recall Jags being a bit of a midfielder (right back, even) before settling for the CB role



Played in goal too.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueForYou on September 28, 2017, 05:35:06 PM
There's hope for McCarthy, yet
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on September 28, 2017, 05:39:09 PM
Let's stop trying to find reasons for why he's a spineless footballer. He's not a frustrated centre half he's just a limited injury prone midfielder with no balls.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueForYou on September 28, 2017, 06:32:19 PM
New balls, please

Anyone for tennis?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Bluenose 91 on September 28, 2017, 06:35:59 PM
Rather see him get a game than Besic like.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on September 28, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
Rather see him get a game than Besic like.

Don't think either of them are good enough to be honest.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: D15TIN on September 28, 2017, 07:38:04 PM
Genuinely forgot he played for us
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Bluenose 91 on September 28, 2017, 08:40:49 PM
Don't think either of them are good enough to be honest.

As a 4th choice centre mid I think McCarthy is.

Besic is completely useless.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on September 28, 2017, 08:44:33 PM
As a 4th choice centre mid I think McCarthy is.

Besic is completely useless.

McCarthy is never fit therefore he's not a 4th choice centre midfielder. He's No 1 in the treatment room and very expensive waste of time. 
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on October 03, 2017, 07:41:13 PM
I'll admit I'm listening to an NSNO podcast whilst catching up on threads, so sorry for resurrecting this.

Who wouldn't have McCarthy in the team ahead of Schneiderlin at this point?

Morgs averageness is making me fondly remember a fit McCarthy who at least did a better job of harrying people!
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: plumber on October 03, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
I'll admit I'm listening to an NSNO podcast whilst catching up on threads, so sorry for resurrecting this.

Who wouldn't have McCarthy in the team ahead of Schneiderlin at this point?

Morgs averageness is making me fondly remember a fit McCarthy who at least did a better job of harrying people!

Schneiderlin is atrocious at the moment, but I don't think replacing him with McCarthy could help.
McCarthy is a poor man's Gana. Two similar players with no creativity is not a good idea.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on October 03, 2017, 08:08:06 PM
Schneiderlin is atrocious at the moment, but I don't think replacing him with McCarthy could help.
McCarthy is a poor man's Gana. Two similar players with no creativity is not a good idea.

I take the point that McCarthy is more like Gana. My point was also based around the thinking that if Schneiderlin is not going to offer any creativity, would we not be better off playing (again, if fit) McCarthy because at least he generally does better at stopping the opposition scoring. I think Morgan has been less than directly culpable in many goals conceded this season.

Schneiderlin on his game was and will be better but for the moment something is wrong with him.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 03, 2017, 08:25:10 PM
We should be trying Klaassen, Davies, etc. paired up w/ Gana or Schneiderlin to shake things up.  Freaking McCarthy is the furthest thing from my mind, getting more crab-like.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 08:27:02 PM
Wouldn't have McCarthy anywhere near the team, regardless of our current predicament.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: plumber on October 03, 2017, 08:33:44 PM
We should be trying Klaassen, Davies, etc. paired up w/ Gana or Schneiderlin to shake things up.  Freaking McCarthy is the furthest thing from my mind, getting more crab-like.

He tried Davies-Gana pair against Chelsea. That was the worst Davies' game this season.

I take the point that McCarthy is more like Gana. My point was also based around the thinking that if Schneiderlin is not going to offer any creativity, would we not be better off playing (again, if fit) McCarthy because at least he generally does better at stopping the opposition scoring. I think Morgan has been less than directly culpable in many goals conceded this season.

Schneiderlin on his game was and will be better but for the moment something is wrong with him.

Yeah, talking about the defence you‘re probably right.  But that would make our toothless attack even worse.



 I feel depressed after discussing  these marvelous options  :(
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 03, 2017, 08:45:41 PM
One match v. Chelsea - where the entire squad was poo - shouldn't be the end all, be all.  I'd try it again.

Without the narrow tree - everything needs exploring within the 4-4-2 framework.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 03, 2017, 08:46:58 PM
Fit him with a pair of these
(https://nuumed.com/147/french-blinkers-ea10.jpg)
and play him upfront.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blueski on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
it does my head in when people slag off a player as not good enough when playing in their first few matches after a serious long term injury

done so many times on here - already this season with besic and mccarthy's whipping is coming up soon if he can get a game
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 08:53:22 PM
it does my head in when people slag off a player as not good enough when playing in their first few matches after a serious long term injury

done so many times on here - already this season with besic and mccarthy's whipping is coming up soon if he can get a game

McCarthy's whipping came a long time ago, what we're seeing now is the continuation of it. In a side lacking in balls and character the last thing you need is another spineless body hiding from the football in the middle of the park.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blueski on October 03, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
McCarthy's whipping came a long time ago, what we're seeing now is the continuation of it. In a side lacking in balls and character the last thing you need is another spineless body hiding from the football in the middle of the park.
yeah for me seems your frustration is with the team and the situation rather than the player. mccarthy's got some limitations and maybe we'll find he won't recover from this injury. on his day hes a decent player capable of covering a lot of ground and pressing all over the park who played injured for a long time so for me at least deserves a chance to get back fit and be part of the squad before being written off as useless/spineless etc.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
yeah for me seems your frustration is with the team and the situation rather than the player. mccarthy's got some limitations and maybe we'll find he won't recover from this injury. on his day hes a decent player capable of covering a lot of ground and pressing all over the park who played injured for a long time so for me at least deserves a chance to get back fit and be part of the squad before being written off as useless/spineless etc.

No. Just to be clear. My issue is with McCarthy.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blueski on October 03, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
Not mine, my issue is the team, manager, situation etc.

got no time for slagging off EFC players on their way back to fitness whatever their strengths/weaknesses are
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
Not mine, my issue is the team, manager, situation etc.

got no time for slagging off EFC players on their way back to fitness whatever their strengths/weaknesses are

Not sure where you get this from. He's been on his way back to fitness for the past three years and when he does play he takes no responsibility and thinks it's okay to just chase after the ball like a Jack Russell in the park.

Complete nothing player and at this moment in time we need players who want to stand up and be counted.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: blueski on October 03, 2017, 09:19:29 PM
Not sure where you get this from. He's been on his way back to fitness for the past three years and when he does play he takes no responsibility and thinks it's okay to just chase after the ball like a Jack Russell in the park.

Complete nothing player and at this moment in time we need players who want to stand up and be counted.
ok then resume slagging lol
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: themilkycoffees on October 03, 2017, 10:03:47 PM
The man should never be seen in a blue shirt ever again. Showed the club a complete lack of respect (twice) by going away with Ireland not fully fit and coming back with a long-term injury.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 03, 2017, 10:28:19 PM
The man should never be seen in a blue shirt ever again. Showed the club a completely lack of respect (twice) by going away with Ireland not fully fit and coming back with a long-term injury.
Not s big fan of him fooking off for the internationals never to be seen again as injured. We pay his wages ffs non respect.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Trowel on October 03, 2017, 10:46:21 PM
More expert medical opinion from Roy Keane - enjoy!

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12020/11065757/roy-keane-accuses-everton-over-james-mccarthy-injuries

Roy Keane believes that Everton need to take responsibility for James McCarthy's injury problems, saying they "have to look at what they are doing themselves".

McCarthy is with the Republic of Ireland squad for their crucial World Cup Qualifiers against Moldova and Wales, despite not having played at all for Everton this season.

Club and country have consistently disagreed over McCarthy's injury problems in recent months, but Ireland assistant manager Keane is clear on where he feels the blame lies.

Keane said: "James seems to be getting a lot of injuries at Everton so I don't think we've anything to be worried about in terms of how much we push James.

"The medical staff are overseeing all of it and are in contact with Everton and all their scientists. I think they've more scientists involved than there needs to be.

"I always think clubs, as much as they look at what we're doing, they certainly have to have look at what they are doing themselves. But James seems pretty upbeat and we're glad to have him here."

McCarthy has recently been struggling with a persistent knee injury, but on Monday, Ireland manager Martin O'Neill refused to rule him out of the upcoming Qualifiers, starting with their game at home to Moldova, live on Sky Sports Football from 7:15pm on Friday.

Keane did admit that the midfielder cannot train fully, and said: "James joined in today, he probably did about 70% of what the other players would have done.

"I spoke to him and he seemed to be ok. We don't want him to over-do it but at some stage you've got to join in, get involved and play some sort of 11vs11 if you can."

Keane appeared to be exasperated with McCarthy's inability to train fully. When asked about the player's workload, he repeated that McCarthy could only do "a little bit" each day, before adding "then he can go back to Everton and we'll see how their scientists deal with it."

It is currently unclear whether McCarthy, who has 41 caps, will be fit for the Moldova game on Friday, with O'Neill saying that they are evaluating his situation on a "day-by-day" basis.

Ireland are currently one place and one point behind Wales, who occupy the play-off spot in Group D with two matches remaining.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 10:48:19 PM
More expert medical opinion from Roy Keane - enjoy!

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12020/11065757/roy-keane-accuses-everton-over-james-mccarthy-injuries

Roy Keane believes that Everton need to take responsibility for James McCarthy's injury problems, saying they "have to look at what they are doing themselves".

McCarthy is with the Republic of Ireland squad for their crucial World Cup Qualifiers against Moldova and Wales, despite not having played at all for Everton this season.

Club and country have consistently disagreed over McCarthy's injury problems in recent months, but Ireland assistant manager Keane is clear on where he feels the blame lies.

Keane said: "James seems to be getting a lot of injuries at Everton so I don't think we've anything to be worried about in terms of how much we push James.

"The medical staff are overseeing all of it and are in contact with Everton and all their scientists. I think they've more scientists involved than there needs to be.

"I always think clubs, as much as they look at what we're doing, they certainly have to have look at what they are doing themselves. But James seems pretty upbeat and we're glad to have him here."

McCarthy has recently been struggling with a persistent knee injury, but on Monday, Ireland manager Martin O'Neill refused to rule him out of the upcoming Qualifiers, starting with their game at home to Moldova, live on Sky Sports Football from 7:15pm on Friday.

Keane did admit that the midfielder cannot train fully, and said: "James joined in today, he probably did about 70% of what the other players would have done.

"I spoke to him and he seemed to be ok. We don't want him to over-do it but at some stage you've got to join in, get involved and play some sort of 11vs11 if you can."

Keane appeared to be exasperated with McCarthy's inability to train fully. When asked about the player's workload, he repeated that McCarthy could only do "a little bit" each day, before adding "then he can go back to Everton and we'll see how their scientists deal with it."

It is currently unclear whether McCarthy, who has 41 caps, will be fit for the Moldova game on Friday, with O'Neill saying that they are evaluating his situation on a "day-by-day" basis.

Ireland are currently one place and one point behind Wales, who occupy the play-off spot in Group D with two matches remaining.
Or maybe McCarthy is just an injury prone footballer and all round soft bloke.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: gizzblue on October 03, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
It's funny hasn't he been injured twice while on international duty ... good of Keane to give an unbiased opinion 😅
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: kramer0 on October 03, 2017, 11:44:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzaGZvpCcAACspd.jpg)
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 04, 2017, 12:00:32 AM
Football journos are fully aware of the history between us and Ireland when it comes to McCarthy and know Roy Keane will happily give them a few column inches if they ask him about it.

It's about the 3rd or 4th time now that they've ran near enough the exact same story with an almost identical quote from that miserable cretin.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: irishtoffee on October 04, 2017, 01:35:17 AM
Did he play any of the pre season this summer? Reading back on him to find out when he got this injury and found an article where Koeman said he was back in training but was being left out as a precaution. That was against Seville in a friendly and he was expected back the week after the opening game against Stoke. That's 6 weeks ago.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: benny on October 04, 2017, 02:05:23 AM
Not sure where you get this from. He's been on his way back to fitness for the past three years and when he does play he takes no responsibility and thinks it's okay to just chase after the ball like a Jack Russell in the park.

Complete nothing player and at this moment in time we need players who want to stand up and be counted.
                      DOGS OF WAR
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: School of Science on October 04, 2017, 03:02:10 AM
If they are stupid enough to play him, Everton should be allowed to suit them, given the recent history between Koeman and O'Neil, oh and the other prick Keane.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 04, 2017, 03:59:35 PM


not sure if the scientists are medical staff or Evertonians (school of science)


Keane the dickwad.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: everton1952 on October 04, 2017, 08:58:58 PM
Never sure what to think about Keane. He did badly as a manager but is outspoken and articulate, so people latch on to some of his more extreme opinions. He says he wants back into club management. I would not like him at Everton in any capacity.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: irishtoffee on October 04, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Never sure what to think about Keane. He did badly as a manager but is outspoken and articulate, so people latch on to some of his more extreme opinions. He says he wants back into club management. I would not like him at Everton in any capacity.
I love him. He's from near where I'm from so I've always loved him growing up. My favourite player ever alongside Kevin speedy. I don't doubt that he's a prick but he's our prick (Ireland's) so I don't mind the controversial stuff he comes out with. Today's one is for all the people worried about sports injuries, let them play chess.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 04, 2017, 10:05:12 PM
He is an embarrassment really.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Major Clanger on October 04, 2017, 10:11:38 PM
Never have the words "reprehensible cunt" been more appropriate to describe a person.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueForYou on October 04, 2017, 10:19:17 PM
Mac the knife
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 04, 2017, 10:20:13 PM
The bloke has some mental issues he needs to overcome before he should be allowed near another professional football club. Being binned from Man U should be first on his list of things to cleanse.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 04, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Never have the words "reprehensible cunt" been more appropriate to describe a person.

He can get in line with Slippy G and the German Elton John across the park, but...yeah
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: BlueForYou on October 04, 2017, 10:56:25 PM
Home James
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Confucius on October 05, 2017, 12:15:56 AM
Really don't have a problem with Keane. he is spot on. It's ridiculous how long Mccarthy he is out. He should at some point try and play or not play for 2 years to rst up and then come back making himself unavailable for anyone in that time. This current back and forth is stupid. keane is spot on.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 05, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
Have Koeman and Mcarthy ever been seen together?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Goaljira on October 05, 2017, 02:49:54 AM
Anyone else read that with him doing airquotes with his fingers when he says 'scientists'?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: sam of the south on October 05, 2017, 03:24:46 AM

not sure if the scientists are medical staff or Evertonians (school of science)


Keane the dickwad.

He resembles, and babbles on like a homeless in a shop doorway.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 05, 2017, 03:27:14 AM
He resembles, and babbles on like a homeless in a shop doorway.

thats cos he's an Irish Scientist.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Toddacelli on October 05, 2017, 03:40:03 AM
Hilarious that vid.

"a little bit on Wednesday... a little bit on Thursday... a little bit on Friday... a little bit on Saturday... etc. etc."

I was playing that on my laptop and the missus started laughing - she thought it was a sketch show doing a piss-take!
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: sam of the south on October 05, 2017, 03:42:33 AM
Hilarious that vid.

"a little bit on Wednesday... a little bit on Thursday... a little bit on Friday... a little bit on Saturday... etc. etc."

I was playing that on my laptop and the missus started laughing - she thought it was a sketch show doing a piss-take!

It's his attempt to be even more odious than Craig David.

And I for one think he pulls it off..
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 05, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
He does have a slight point though.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 05, 2017, 06:38:26 PM
im ashamed to say this, (especially going on how McCarthy has played during the Martinez era)

WE fucking miss him, This season i'd rather have McCarthy playing than MS.

He goes forwards more than MS, he's more combative, he's not a pussy who just goes in late for the ball, he can actually tackle and jockey players with out the need of sliding in.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 05, 2017, 07:18:50 PM
im ashamed to say this, (especially going on how McCarthy has played during the Martinez era)

WE fucking miss him, This season i'd rather have McCarthy playing than MS.

He goes forwards more than MS, he's more combative, he's not a pussy who just goes in late for the ball, he can actually tackle and jockey players with out the need of sliding in.

Bollocks. He is a massive pussy!!! Absolute myth of a player.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: plumber on October 05, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
im ashamed to say this, (especially going on how McCarthy has played during the Martinez era)

WE fucking miss him, This season i'd rather have McCarthy playing than MS.

He goes forwards more than MS, he's more combative, he's not a pussy who just goes in late for the ball, he can actually tackle and jockey players with out the need of sliding in.

Fucking hell
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 05, 2017, 07:27:00 PM
LOL, yes our midfield has been that bad., just want us to go forwards and not first touch, second touch and back it goes.

hence why i mentioned playing him.. surely he cant be anyworse than what Schneiderlin has been this season.

I dont think hes as bad as you guys rate him as.

check out the irish kante LOLOL


Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Silas on October 06, 2017, 01:13:05 AM
Mc Carthy when fit is a good player, he's got major issues with fitness but he could potentially still have a role for us.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: brap2 on October 06, 2017, 06:48:46 AM
Consistently terrible opinions from our mate @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) becoming a real theme.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 06, 2017, 01:51:29 PM
Consistently terrible opinions from our mate @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) becoming a real theme.

Ditto bud, Like Giroud, and you only seeing Koemans inadequacies until til a few games ago.

are you saying that McCarthy would have been any worse than Schneiderlin? who has been one of our worst players so far this season? I'm not saying start him every match, just stated we could have used him.

how do you feel when established members agree with me?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: brap2 on October 06, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
Ditto bud, Like Giroud, and you only seeing Koemans inadequacies until til a few games ago.

are you saying that McCarthy would have been any worse than Schneiderlin? who has been one of our worst players so far this season? I'm not saying start him every match, just stated we could have used him.

how do you feel when established members agree with me?

Nah I actually wanted Koeman gone last year.

My argument was that I think more upheaval would be even worse. The seasons gone so let him steady the ship and see if he can turn it around, because I don't 100% trust that we'll hire well.

But I cba with that anymore like and I just want a change.

And yes McCarthy would of course be worse than Schneiderlin, it's more worthwhile to either stick with him until he can get form, or drop him and play someone who hasn't been a total whisper of a player for the past 3 years when we needed him most.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: formerKHL on October 06, 2017, 08:28:34 PM
Have Koeman and Mcarthy ever been seen together?

go them on camera..wink wink....blackmailing them as we speak...
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:02:07 AM
Obviously no world beater but imo better than Morgan when fit...does the dirty work much better.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 02:04:49 AM
Start him tomorrow
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 02:07:44 AM
Weirdly I think he is exactly the type of player we need in our current situation. If play him tomorrow
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:08:26 AM
Start him tomorrow
He and gueye would be solid.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 02:14:27 AM
when he is fit he can offer something, whens the last time he has played? be mad to throw him in at the start
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
when he is fit he can offer something, whens the last time he has played? be mad to throw him in at the start
Idcsrgue it's be mad to stsrtvthe same people who have been shit for months.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 02:17:37 AM
Idcsrgue it's be mad to stsrtvthe same people who have been shit for months.

exactly
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 22, 2017, 02:52:07 AM
when he is fit he can offer something, whens the last time he has played? be mad to throw him in at the start

It would be mad to throw him in - he needs wheeling in with his armbands, otherwise he'd drown in the wet turf.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 02:53:12 AM
Last time I watched him for us was the derby before Christmas and he was having a very good game.....until he got injured
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 03:18:46 AM
There isn't a footballing question in the world that McCarthy is the answer to. He's a bottom half of the league player at the best. He offers 0 other than running loads and sidewards passes
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 03:59:51 AM
There isn't a footballing question in the world that McCarthy is the answer to. He's a bottom half of the league player at the best. He offers 0 other than running loads and sidewards passes
Whereas Morgan offers a lot more ?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Waltzer on October 22, 2017, 04:01:03 AM
I actually rate McCarthy, admittedly he's got a number of fitness issues but when he's fit I see him as being in, or not far off, our best 11. I think his energy would be a great addition In  our current situation
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 04:07:50 AM
Mc Carthy is neither shit or the answer to all our woes. If he's fit though he deserves a go as much as any of our players right now
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 04:08:50 AM
Whereas Morgan offers a lot more ?

He used to. Now he’s turned into a McCarthy clone.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 04:20:10 AM
Last time I watched him for us was the derby before Christmas and he was having a very good game.....until he got injured
That's the game when my green shoots of love for Koeman were trampled so cruelly into the dirt, it could have been so good Ronnie lad.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 04:21:24 AM
Obviously no world beater but imo better than Morgan when fit...does the dirty work much better.
Start him tomorrow
Weirdly I think he is exactly the type of player we need in our current situation. If play him tomorrow
Get to fuck all of you.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 04:37:36 AM
Get to fuck all of you.
Said it before, he can't be much worse than what we have been getting so far from koemans idea of a team.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 04:39:54 AM
We aren't surely turning on Scheiderlin are we? Last season when he started I have never felt so safe, no idea if it's the tactics or just Koeman but to say McCarthy -Who I genuinely still like as a player- is better, then ya'll lost your minds.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/RqzgtA5CYomK4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 04:43:13 AM
We aren't surely turning on Scheiderlin are we? Last season when he started I have never felt so safe, no idea if it's the tactics or just Koeman but to say McCarthy -Who I genuinely still like as a player- is better, then ya'll lost your minds.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/RqzgtA5CYomK4/giphy.gif)
No but if injured ,and everybody needs a rest .
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 04:47:27 AM
Said it before, he can't be much worse than what we have been getting so far from koemans idea of a team.
2 season of shite from him says he can.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 04:55:53 AM
Think Sheiderlin is a decent player and is just another victim of the Koeman Fog
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 05:26:09 AM
Fuck him.

Doesn't give a fuck about playing for everton
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 05:41:14 AM
Think Sheiderlin is a decent player and is just another victim of the Koeman Fog

Yeah, Schneiderlin's a decent player. He didn't settle well at Man Utd but at Southampton he was very good, hence the move he got. For one reason or another it didn't work out but he was good when he came here, especially for a player that hadn't played that much in recent months. He'll be a very good player for us but like pretty much everyone else in the team he's struggling for form and confidence given the run we're on and the apparent lack of direction from Koeman but it's far easier for people just to label everything and everyone as shite.

The way things are on here people would have a spine to the team of Shane Duffy, James McCarthy and Glenn fucking Murray.  :eh:
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 05:48:14 AM
Yeah, Schneiderlin's a decent player. He didn't settle well at Man Utd but at Southampton he was very good, hence the move he got. For one reason or another it didn't work out but he was good when he came here, especially for a player that hadn't played that much in recent months. He'll be a very good player for us but like pretty much everyone else in the team he's struggling for form and confidence given the run we're on and the apparent lack of direction from Koeman but it's far easier for people just to label everything and everyone as shite.

The way things are on here people would have a spine to the team of Shane Duffy, James McCarthy and Glenn fucking Murray.  :eh:

A lot of people on here want their primary defensive players to be able to put a ball on a 50p from 40 yards away (hyperbole?).
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 05:52:59 AM
A lot of people on here want their primary defensive players to be able to put a ball on a 50p from 40 yards away (hyperbole?).

To be fair, Schneiderlin did that a couple of times on Thursday night but no one mentions it. ;) 
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 05:53:49 AM
Yeah, Schneiderlin's a decent player. He didn't settle well at Man Utd but at Southampton he was very good, hence the move he got. For one reason or another it didn't work out but he was good when he came here, especially for a player that hadn't played that much in recent months. He'll be a very good player for us but like pretty much everyone else in the team he's struggling for form and confidence given the run we're on and the apparent lack of direction from Koeman but it's far easier for people just to label everything and everyone as shite.

The way things are on here people would have a spine to the team of Shane Duffy, James McCarthy and Glenn fucking Murray.  :eh:
Just stating Glen Murray is better than Sandro, DCL and Niasse and would walk into this team. Shows how fucked we are.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 05:58:07 AM
To be fair, Schneiderlin did that a couple of times on Thursday night but no one mentions it. ;) 

I genuinely didn't. Lately I kind of watch the match in the background and alt tab when the commentary sounds exciting.. sounds like I'm a terrible blue when I write that out but damn does this type of stuff get me down with Everton.

Everton..versus Arsenal at home and I'm not even bothered. Probably rambled on enough I guess but yeah.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
Who is Glenn Murray?
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 11:44:19 AM
Who is Glenn Murray?

Plays for Brighton, scored a couple v West Ham.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
Plays for Brighton, scored a couple v West Ham.

Well if he couldn't even score against us he isn't worth looking at.
Title: Re: McCarthy
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
A lot of people on here want their primary defensive players to be able to put a ball on a 50p from 40 yards away (hyperbole?).
This is the point for me he is primarily a defensive player but we don't look secure with him in the side so due to the lack of giving anything else it's a waste of starting spot atm.