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Title: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Everton News on September 27, 2017, 03:57:21 AM
Robles running down deal with no regrets

Everton's forgotten goalkeeper Joel Robles says he will end his Everton career at the end of this season after deciding not to renew his contract with the Blues.

Source: Robles running down deal with no regrets (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/09/robles-running-deal-no-regrets/)
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 27, 2017, 05:23:39 AM
Yeah, that's because no ones stupid enough to buy him off of us.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Jamokachi on September 27, 2017, 11:21:26 AM
ok
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 12:33:19 PM
I assume all the Barkley haters will be in uproar that Robles won't sign a contract extension so we get paid when he leaves?
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 12:42:53 PM
I assume all the Barkley haters will be in uproar that Robles won't sign a contract extension so we get paid when he leaves?

Well no...

Because Robles isn't worth a carrot.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
Well no...

Because Robles isn't worth a carrot.

In today's market we'd get a few million for him.

So what's the amount of money you're happy to throw away?
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
In today's market we'd get a few million for him.

So what's the amount of money you're happy to throw away?

Not my money, therefore I couldn't care less but just to be clear... Are you actually pretending to not see the difference between +30m and a nominal 1-2m?
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Macca77 on September 27, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
Oh well
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 02:39:28 PM
Not my money, therefore I couldn't care less but just to be clear... Are you actually pretending to not see the difference between +30m and a nominal 1-2m?

Of course I see the difference. However it's not a nominal amount. Even if it was 1-2m (I think we're talking around 4-5m), in the context of a club which has turnover of 125m a year, 1-2% of turnover is hardly money any self-respecting business would write off as if it doesn't matter.

So my question again would be, what is the threshold for where it matters vs. doesn't matter if a player decides to prioritise their own career vs. ensuring the club gets paid?

And finally, if it's not your money and you couldn't care less, why hate on Barkley whatever the amount? (I'm not sure if you are one of the Barkley haters but you've taken up their mantle in this debate so I'll assume so).
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 27, 2017, 02:58:49 PM
Of course I see the difference. However it's not a nominal amount. Even if it was 1-2m (I think we're talking around 4-5m), in the context of a club which has turnover of 125m a year, 1-2% of turnover is hardly money any self-respecting business would write off as if it doesn't matter.

So my question again would be, what is the threshold for where it matters vs. doesn't matter if a player decides to prioritise their own career vs. ensuring the club gets paid?

And finally, if it's not your money and you couldn't care less, why hate on Barkley whatever the amount? (I'm not sure if you are one of the Barkley haters but you've taken up their mantle in this debate so I'll assume so).

Threshold,  I don't know. If there was a guaranteed buyer for Robles, as was the case with Barkley, then people would probably have an issue with it. As there wasn't (to our knowledge) coupled with the fact that he's shit, people are generally not bothered.

I'm not a Barkley hater (I think he's vastly overrated by some, overly derided by others), but I'd imagine that there's a degree of people being sick of the on-going saga around the contract issue.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 27, 2017, 03:35:22 PM
I assume all the Barkley haters will be in uproar that Robles won't sign a contract extension so we get paid when he leaves?

Has his scouse impression in that Tom Davies video with Mirallas (Chicken lad) got you mistakenly thinking that Robles is an academy graduate that has been here for years and has an affinity for the club?
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
Good decision not to renew

An even better decision would be to opt for a transfer in January to try and secure a place in Spain's World Cup squad

No regrets
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 27, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
He's one of those that people will look back and be way too harsh on how bad he was for us

When he had a run in the team his form improved and he kept a decent amount of clean sheeets. Also i met him and he was sound!

I wish him all the best. He's been harshly demoted to 3rd choice in my opinion
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 03:51:39 PM
Name of the game

Move on, like Gareth Barry
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 27, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
Has his scouse impression in that Tom Davies video with Mirallas (Chicken lad) got you mistakenly thinking that Robles is an academy graduate that has been here for years and has an affinity for the club?

Ah I see. We should only hate on our own. Gotcha.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 04:21:44 PM
He's one of those that people will look back and be way too harsh on how bad he was for us

When he had a run in the team his form improved and he kept a decent amount of clean sheeets. Also i met him and he was sound!

I wish him all the best. He's been harshly demoted to 3rd choice in my opinion

He was probably demoted to 3rd choice as he isn't that good and to improve he would need to play every week to attempt to iron out the glaring deficiencies in his game. As a No 2 he was never going to be able to do that so there really isn't any point in him being here if he isn't going to sign a new deal and go out on loan for a year to sharpen up his game.

Just an unfortunate situation, same as Barkley's was unfortunate. Circumstances have dictated we're probably going to lose two young lads for next to nothing which isn't ideal but also isn't anyone's fault really. 
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: BlueNoseMike on September 27, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Ah I see. We should only hate on our own. Gotcha.

If our own is ensuring we miss out on about 40 mil or keeping a top player then yeah. Behave
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: 74Blue on September 27, 2017, 06:49:27 PM
The possibility of receiving a nominal fee is not yet completely lost with Robles. It's entirely possible that a club may need a keeper in January. I'd imagine that we'd take a small fee for him then and get him off the wage bill too.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 27, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
He is better than Steklenburg but isn't going to get games so may as well see his contract for that reason alone .
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: School of Science on September 27, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Has his scouse impression in that Tom Davies video with Mirallas (Chicken lad) got you mistakenly thinking that Robles is an academy graduate that has been here for years and has an affinity for the club?

Yes well said mate, anyone would think Robles had supported Everton his whole life and had joined Everton when he was 11.....
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 27, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
To be fair Championship (now 'Football') Manager comparisons tend to be daft but I feel it's quite appropriate for Robles.

He's that player that has some good physical and technical stats which make you sign him but he'll never reliably conquer his weaknesses which is obviously crucial in a goalkeeper because any error of execution, indecision, or plain wrong action has a high chance of leading to a goal conceded.

If it was all just a computer game you'd let him go before throwing your virtual wonga at what was at best a good reserve.

He seems to be a great lad who is not ashamed to show ambition, I hope he ends up as first choice somewhere decent!
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 27, 2017, 09:21:18 PM
Good luck to the lad. He did alright but not quite. Should get a few bob for him like.
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: Realist on September 27, 2017, 09:31:51 PM
Good decision not to renew

An even better decision would be to opt for a transfer in January to try and secure a place in Spain's World Cup squad

No regrets

😂 Spain squad
Title: Re: [News]Robles running down deal with no regrets
Post by: D15TIN on September 28, 2017, 07:19:02 PM
He was in talks with deportivo over the summer, heard they couldn't agree on wages, Robles is a decent keeper, mid table PL level - shouldve be getting 5/6mill for him