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Title: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Everton News on September 27, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
Koeman: Klaassen needs time

Everton boss Ronald Koeman says that Davy Klaassen - and Sandro Ramirez - needs time to adapt to the Premier League after his big-money move from Ajax in the summer.

Source: Koeman: Klaassen needs time (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/09/koeman-klaassen-needs-time/)
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 05:11:02 PM
And he needs a full 90mins tomorrow

A player of his quality should stand out

Goals for him and Sandro!
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Simon Paul on September 27, 2017, 05:13:31 PM
Koeman says "It is all about the player himself. It is the same question for other young players."

is there not an element of it being about the manager and coaching staff too?
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: formerKHL on September 27, 2017, 05:16:26 PM
Koeman says "It is all about the player himself. It is the same question for other young players."

is there not an element of it being about the manager and coaching staff too?

or the club as whole to help these players integrate into the new style/pace of football, culture, language etc....get them settled in a home environment rather than a hotel room..
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
The Oumar benchmark? 18 months!
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Lazarou on September 27, 2017, 05:51:34 PM
Koeman just needs to shut up and get on with coaching/integrating them into the team. He has done none of the new players any favours by playing them out of position or not setting the formation and team selection to integrate them. Over to you Ronald.

Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
Koeman says "It is all about the player himself. It is the same question for other young players."

is there not an element of it being about the manager and coaching staff too?

Always seems to put everything on the player and nothing on the setup he is in. Now it might just be lost in translation and of course the player is the one responsible for his own destiny but both player and team go hand in hand so it stands to reason that the environment must be right for players to thrive.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Toddacelli on September 27, 2017, 06:26:58 PM
If we had a recognisable system that we were trying to play that we could try different players out in - at least then everyone would know what is expected of them and where to expect your teammates to be.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 27, 2017, 09:24:45 PM
Koeman says "It is all about the player himself. It is the same question for other young players."

is there not an element of it being about the manager and coaching staff too?

Right on. Wonder if he ever coached youth/under 11 teams on his way to the big time. Doubt it.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Realist on September 27, 2017, 09:33:32 PM
I reckon he'll turn out an ok buy, he's not going to score many and he won't light up the league but I think he'll do
Ok.
Sandro is useless
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: BlueForYou on September 27, 2017, 10:05:27 PM
Our Bergkamp in waiting...................... ..........
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: blue1948 on September 27, 2017, 10:12:09 PM
Always seems to put everything on the player and nothing on the setup he is in. Now it might just be lost in translation and of course the player is the one responsible for his own destiny but both player and team go hand in hand so it stands to reason that the environment must be right for players to thrive.
So I am putting myself on the line again ! What do you know about the situation at Finch farm????
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: blue1948 on September 27, 2017, 10:13:58 PM
I reckon he'll turn out an ok buy, he's not going to score many and he won't light up the league but I think he'll do
Ok.
Sandro is useless
TO SAY HE IS USELESS REALLY IS REALISTIC  YOU TURNIP
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
So I am putting myself on the line again ! What do you know about the situation at Finch farm????


Eh?
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Realist on September 27, 2017, 10:22:17 PM
TO SAY HE IS USELESS REALLY IS REALISTIC  YOU TURNIP

Sure is that's why I said it
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: blue1948 on September 27, 2017, 11:09:01 PM
Eh?
I reiterate ,what do you really know about the set up -how the players and staff feel? At finch farm.
Sure is that's why I said it
Sure is that's why I said it
You are willing to
 go on record that you think he is useless?
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Confucius on September 27, 2017, 11:09:10 PM
I worry about Koeman. We knew we had to rebuild. i think he was chosen specifically as he integrated many new players into squads quite well at Southampton. He really hasn't done it well here t all.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: blue1948 on September 27, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
I worry about Koeman. We knew we had to rebuild. i think he was chosen specifically as he integrated many new players into squads quite well at Southampton. He really hasn't done it well here t all.
You are a win up merchant !
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 27, 2017, 11:12:26 PM
I worry about Koeman. We knew we had to rebuild. i think he was chosen specifically as he integrated many new players into squads quite well at Southampton. He really hasn't done it well here t all.
Too early to say that
He took us back to 7th last season after two grim years

We are rally early into this being his side and I believe we earned the same pts last season as we did this season in the games so far.

Ill admit the style of football isn't nice on the eye
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Confucius on September 27, 2017, 11:22:24 PM
You are a win up merchant !


Always play to win mate.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Lxxx on September 27, 2017, 11:45:40 PM
I reiterate ,what do you really know about the set up -how the players and staff feel? At finch farm.You are willing to
 go on record that you think he is useless?

You're rambling mate.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Shropshire Blue on September 27, 2017, 11:52:04 PM
Always seems to put everything on the player and nothing on the setup he is in. Now it might just be lost in translation and of course the player is the one responsible for his own destiny but both player and team go hand in hand so it stands to reason that the environment must be right for players to thrive.
That doesn't make sense?
The environment can be perfect and the player just not good enough so won't succeed.
(Not a reference to Klaassen just to the statement above)
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Realist on September 27, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
I reiterate ,what do you really know about the set up -how the players and staff feel? At finch farm.You are willing to
 go on record that you think he is useless?

Already did son, see them 2 quotes there 👆🏼 That's me saying I think he's useless
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: mikey_blue on September 28, 2017, 03:35:12 PM
He'll be fine. All he needs to do is channel his inner Naismith.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: formerKHL on September 28, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
Is Koeman clairvoyant ? A Genius ? By not buying a big centre forward.....

I only ask because the PC brigade are out in strength.....they're now trying to stop all contact in sport and particularly tackling in rugby and HEADING......
 
Did RK know this before spending a fortune ?

tick your it......
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: BlueForYou on September 28, 2017, 10:59:43 PM
DK Max time, tonight
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: Klaassen needs time
Post by: Realist on September 29, 2017, 01:13:02 AM
Is Koeman clairvoyant ? A Genius ? By not buying a big centre forward.....

I only ask because the PC brigade are out in strength.....they're now trying to stop all contact in sport and particularly tackling in rugby and HEADING......
 
Did RK know this before spending a fortune ?

tick your it......
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