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Title: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 29, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
Dunno if I can be arsed tbh

Pickford
Kenny Holgate Anyone at all bar Williams Baines
Schneiderlin
Siggurdson Gueye
Rooney Vlasic
DCL

Horrific one all draw with us equalising late on, probably though Niasse after one of their centre halves scores off a corner early on
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: TheRam on September 29, 2017, 04:33:09 PM
Gonna be a horrible atmosphere.

Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 29, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
Gonna be a horrible atmosphere.

Big part of the problem IMO. I know it's easy to get frustrated because of the way we're playing but must be horrible playing at Goodison (if you're an Everton player).
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: Lazarou on September 29, 2017, 04:50:58 PM
Big part of the problem IMO. I know it's easy to get frustrated because of the way we're playing but must be horrible playing at Goodison (if you're an Everton player).
Vicious circle shit performances make shit atmosphere's. Up to the manager & players to change it. Never been any different at the old lady.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 29, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
If Koeman doesn't start with any pace up top again, he needs kicking in the face.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: BlueForYou on September 29, 2017, 04:55:53 PM
As it stands:

1) Pickford (dead cert)
2) Kenny (deserves to start)
3) Baines (no other option)
4) Holgate (persevere)
5) Feeney (if you're good enough, you're old enough - assuming, Keane injured/+ Jags, past it/& Williams, drop him)
6) Davies (needs to start/energy)
7) Sigurdsson (playmaker/set pieces)
8) Vlasic (deserves to start/left footer)
9) Niasse (scoring goals/in form)
10) Rooney (scoring goals/captain)
11) DCL (scoring goals/in form-despite header!)

Bench: Stek; Martina; Schneiderlin; Gueye; Klaassen; Lookman; Sandro
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: TheTone on September 29, 2017, 04:59:54 PM
Schneiderlin needs dropping, havn't been impressed with him at all since he arrived
Rooney can do one too for a while
Don't know what people see in Kenny

             Pickford
Martina Holgate Williams Baines
Mirallas  Gueye  Davies  Vlasic
                Siggy
                DCL

Vlasic has to start
I put Mirallas in but really just put a winger out there you fat dutch cunt, so wouldn't be adverse to have Lookman or Lennon on the right either

How long are Keane and Jagielka out for?


Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 29, 2017, 05:09:15 PM

5) Feeney (if you're good enough, you're old enough - assuming, Keane injured/+ Jags, past it/& Williams, drop him)

Don't think throwing an inexperienced youth into this mess of a team is a good idea tbh, despite Williams being a joke.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: Hawkandro on September 29, 2017, 05:12:46 PM
Pickford

Kenny Holgate Williams (If Keane or Jags ain't fit) Baines
Gueye Davies
Vlasic Sigurdsson Lookman
Rooney/DCL

Would be mine.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: mikey_blue on September 29, 2017, 05:14:35 PM
Gonna be a horrible atmosphere.



Most commentators and pundits picking up on how quiet it is at Goodison these days.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: Bingham Boy on September 29, 2017, 05:20:25 PM
Vicious circle shit performances make shit atmosphere's. Up to the manager & players to change it. Never been any different at the old lady.

We can't be making an effort ourselves now can we! It has been different at Goodison. Everton are "we", players, fans. If we think we may be able to help then we should try, not just sit there thinking we're the King with his jester.

I know all this about they get paid loads, but we play against teams who also get paid loads, so that's cancelled out. Plus we know this before we go the match. We hurt just the same when we lose as I'm sure fans did in the 19th Century when the players were on their wages then.
I didn't mean that to be turned into a rant sorry.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 29, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
Vicious circle shit performances make shit atmosphere's. Up to the manager & players to change it. Never been any different at the old lady.

The frustration is understandable but people start moaning as soon as there's a misplaced pass. Hardly great support is it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on September 29, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
Going to this, my mates away so using his season ticket, I actually can't be arsed, already know whats gonna happen
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: Lazarou on September 29, 2017, 05:36:45 PM
We can't be making an effort ourselves now can we! It has been different at Goodison. Everton are "we", players, fans. If we think we may be able to help then we should try, not just sit there thinking we're the King with his jester.

I know all this about they get paid loads, but we play against teams who also get paid loads, so that's cancelled out. Plus we know this before we go the match. We hurt just the same when we lose as I'm sure fans did in the 19th Century when the players were on their wages then.
I didn't mean that to be turned into a rant sorry.
You are right of course that's how it should be, but unfortunately it is never like that at Goodison. A bad referee can actually be a good thing for us so we have someone to vent our seemingly in built anger on.

Goodison under the floodlights when we are battling a team and the officials is a special thing, but we just can't seem to do the support no matter what thing.

Blue cynics.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 29, 2017, 05:43:55 PM
Surely Niasse has to start up front with DCL?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dazfrancis on September 29, 2017, 05:57:00 PM
                 Pickford

 Kenny  Holgate  Not Williams Baines

          Davies  a DM

A winger                    Another Winger or Niasse if he can play as a wide forward

           One of our five number 10's

             DCL


Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dazfrancis on September 29, 2017, 05:58:10 PM
I would also accept this team as it would at least have some pace and energy

Kenny      Holgate     Williams     Baines

                  Schneiderlin
        Davies               Gueye

      Rooney                 Niasse
                      DCL
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 29, 2017, 06:17:40 PM
If Koeman doesn't start with any pace up top again, he needs kicking in the face.
Who though? Calls for Lookman are naive as he’s looked well out of his depth. Mirallas isn’t quick anymore and looks disinterested. Sandro nowhere near up to speed. It’s not like Koeman is ignoring world class pacey wingers, is it? DCL and Vlasic are the only two that should be in with a shout if starting (and they will) but they’re kids. The above says more about the clubs recruitment than Koeman.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 29, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
The frustration is understandable but people start moaning as soon as there's a misplaced pass. Hardly great support is it.

thats d own to the manager for not having any outlets, just 5 players in the middle of midfield, with no where to go, Im sure if we had some players  who would run at players, the atmosphere would be positive.

We can not play Gana-Gueye with Schneiderlin anymore..

Its either attack the opposition (dont be scared of Burnely) or  just pass it around aimlessly waiting for us to make a mistake, the more the balls in the oppositions half, the less mistakes are back line will make.


                        Pickford
Kenny   Holgate  Anyone but Williams Baines

Lookman/   Gana   Davies/      VLasic
Mirallas                    Siggy

              DCL         NIASSE


2 strikers, 2 wingers, 1 DM 1 attacking CM, simples. give us some balance.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 29, 2017, 06:37:03 PM
Pickford

Kenny Holgate Williams (If Keane or Jags ain't fit) Baines
Gueye Davies
Vlasic Sigurdsson Lookman
Rooney/DCL

Would be mine.

Big fan of this team. Personally, I'd start with DCL.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Fynci on September 29, 2017, 06:44:44 PM
Most commentators and pundits picking up on how quiet it is at Goodison these days.

Most commentators are also saying that Everton have a specialist now as soon as we get a free kick or a corner.... followed by a very average free kick or corner.
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 29, 2017, 06:45:25 PM
Big fan of this team. Personally, I'd start with DCL.

the problem with that team is, when we lose the ball,. our 3 behind the striker are in the wrong positions to cover attacking fullbacks, leaving the other team lots of space.. our players have to come from inside to out, rather than being setup from out, coming to inside.. still no balance with that team. we cant have 3 players behind the striker, If Vlasic and Lookman start out wide, then its fine, they will be in the right places so the oppositions full backs will find it harder to get up the pitch, if they start inside, by the time lookman and Vlasic get to the fullbacks, they will be alot further down the pitch,

the 3 behind the striker invites to much pressure/free space to attack.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: mikey_blue on September 29, 2017, 06:46:09 PM
Most commentators are also saying that Everton have a specialist now as soon as we get a free kick or a corner.... followed by a very average free kick or corner.

At least it's clearing the first man!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Shogun on September 29, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Pickford
Kenny Holgate Jagielka Baines
Gana Schneiderlin
Davies
Vlasic DCL Sigurdsson
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: everton1952 on September 29, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
He must play Niasse, and even hopefully a second striker DCL. But to choose DCL over Niasse would be ludicrous. Vlasic with his energy forward running and as said above either Schneiderlin or Gueye but not both. We are condemned I fear to playing Williams and Holgate again.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 29, 2017, 07:28:55 PM
             Pickford
Kenny Holgate Keane Baines
Lennon Gueye Davies Vlasic
            Sigurdsson
                DCL
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 29, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
get ready for the fume.. i mean jokes.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Waltzer on September 29, 2017, 08:04:05 PM
                   Pickford

      Jags   Keane   Baines

          Gueye   Schneiderlin

Lennon       Davies        Sigurdsson

              DCL     Sandro       
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 29, 2017, 08:05:27 PM
4-4-2

                Pickford

Kenny   Holgate  (Jags)   Baines

Davies  Gana  Sigurdsson   Vlasic

           DCL     Sandro/Niasse
Title: Re: Burnley at Home
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 29, 2017, 08:22:26 PM
the problem with that team is, when we lose the ball,. our 3 behind the striker are in the wrong positions to cover attacking fullbacks, leaving the other team lots of space.. our players have to come from inside to out, rather than being setup from out, coming to inside.. still no balance with that team. we cant have 3 players behind the striker, If Vlasic and Lookman start out wide, then its fine, they will be in the right places so the oppositions full backs will find it harder to get up the pitch, if they start inside, by the time lookman and Vlasic get to the fullbacks, they will be alot further down the pitch,

the 3 behind the striker invites to much pressure/free space to attack.

I have literally no idea what you're talking about with regards to players coming from inside to out. The team above has much more balance than we've seen previously and players are actually playing in the correct positions. From what I've seen so far, Vlasic is quite industrious and provides decent cover for his full back. Not as sure on Lookman in that respect, but he's a threat and we're playing Burnley at home FFS. 4-2-3-1 can work going forward with the right players, and it can become a 4-4-1-1 when we're defending, as the wingers can drop in to a 4.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on September 29, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Dyche will have these set up nice and compact, two banks of 4 across the pitch and then play on the break. It's what I would expect a manager to do with limited resources to try and get a result, a plan which has worked so far against Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool away from home so far this season. 

This won't be an easy game at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 29, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
They're a shite team, playing well. We're a good team (I think), playing shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Robioto on September 29, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
I'm at my partner's sister's for our neices 1st birthday.

They live in the middle of nowhere with no phone signal and guests are not allowed on the WiFi as they live in a boarding school.

As far as I'm concerned this is the best way to enjoy watching Everton at the moment.

No contact.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on September 29, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
I'll bet anyone 20p that Niasse won't start the game

Any takers?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on September 29, 2017, 09:12:15 PM
I'll bet anyone 20p that Niasse won't start the game

Any takers?
Nobody giving you that 😅😅it's nailed on koemans ego comes first .. ..humble pie diet he's been On recently doesn't agree with him .
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on September 29, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
I'll bet anyone 20p that Niasse won't start the game

Any takers?

Nor should he really, we have better options at present. He's a decent option off the bench for now but it's width we badly need more than putting him in up top and heaping a whole load of pressure on the lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 29, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
Dyche will have these set up nice and compact, two banks of 4 across the pitch and then play on the break. It's what I would expect a manager to do with limited resources to try and get a result, a plan which has worked so far against Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool away from home so far this season. 

This won't be an easy game at all.
We’ve been awful at breaking down teams that park on their 18 yard box, for years. This will be an awful watch, even if we do get a result.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: everton1952 on September 29, 2017, 10:12:34 PM
err which options (plural) do we have? Niasse plays without fear, DCL (one of the better performances on the night), came off looking like he was as shocked as the others. I would play them both with "someone" out wide,  but Ronald won't.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Juanito on September 29, 2017, 10:23:09 PM
Burnley play a 4-4-2 so I think we should. Think Keane will be back too.

              Pickford
Kenny   Holgate  Keane  Baines
         Gana   Schiederlin
Vlasic                       Sigurdsson
         DCL     Niasse

           
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 29, 2017, 10:53:43 PM
We’ve been awful at breaking down teams that park on their 18 yard box, for years. This will be an awful watch, even if we do get a result.

I suggest y'all drink up.  Early for me, so it will be pills lest someone think I'm an alkie!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on September 29, 2017, 11:00:14 PM
I suggest y'all drink up.  Early for me, so it will be pills lest someone think I'm an alkie!

Pils or pills? 🤔
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 29, 2017, 11:08:52 PM
I'll bet anyone 20p that Niasse won't start the game

Any takers?

We'll have atleast 2 number 10s a fake 9. no width.. be losing.. then he will bring on a winger DCL and Niasse.

Wish that doesnt paper over the cracks.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 30, 2017, 12:57:20 AM
We will play 4 3 3 so with that we need to be as attacking as possible


              Pickford
Kenny  Keane Holgate  Baines
     Klaasen Gueye  Davies
             Rooney
  DLC                 Niasse

Play players where they fucking excell. Klaasen played CM in Ajax give him a chance there rather than up the strikers pipe. Davies to drive us forward and give us a bit of pace.
Drop Schneiderlin and Sigurrdson as they just haven't been on it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 30, 2017, 12:59:18 AM
We will play 4 3 3 so with that we need to be as attacking as possible


              Pickford
Kenny  Keane Holgate  Baines
     Klaasen Gueye  Davies
             Rooney
  DLC                 Niasse

Play players where they fucking excell. Klaasen played CM in Ajax give him a chance there rather than up the strikers pipe. Davies to drive us forward and give us a bit of pace.
Drop Schneiderlin and Sigurrdson as they just haven't been on it.
In fact fuck Rooney off too and play Vlasic DCL and Niasse up top.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 30, 2017, 01:14:55 AM
Burnley  good manager who has them grafting for each other and well organised, very tough game the way we are goin on.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 30, 2017, 01:17:10 AM
In fact fuck Rooney off too and play Vlasic DCL and Niasse up top.
You know it makes sense but will it happen..
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on September 30, 2017, 01:27:03 AM
We should go with a formation with width.
Here's what we'll see against Burnley👇
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 30, 2017, 01:51:22 AM
They're a shite team, playing well. We're a good team (I think), playing shite.

We're a good squad, but have no shape, have no identity of style of play, we start off with lots of defensive players, thus Koeman is setting his stall out to be shit scared instead of attacking the opposition at HOME.

no wonder Goodison is quiet. setting up to defend against teams we should be attacking.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 30, 2017, 01:53:47 AM
We should go with a formation with width.
Here's what we'll see against Burnley👇


7 Asian boys and 1 girl? LOL

they'd give Burnley abetter game than us.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on September 30, 2017, 02:30:13 AM

7 Asian boys and 1 girl? LOL

they'd give Burnley abetter game than us.

😂
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on September 30, 2017, 06:14:27 AM
cheer up lads. we'll batter these :)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on September 30, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
cheer up lads. we'll batter these :)

I would love to believe this, but if he continues with the narrow, congested, and ponderous stuff the most we can hope for is a scrappy 1-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on September 30, 2017, 05:11:19 PM
Burnley are pretty much the complete opposite of us - organised, balanced, players know each other, getting the most out of themselves.

Think we'll get beat.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blargins on September 30, 2017, 06:14:19 PM

7 Asian boys and 1 girl? LOL

they'd give Burnley abetter game than us.

You want this thread:

https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=94674.0


I'm thankfully going to miss this game. Helping the brother in law with moving instead.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: ally2 on September 30, 2017, 08:06:05 PM
Id go

               Pickford

Kenny Holgate Williams Baines

Klassen Schneiderlein Davies

            Sigurdsson

           Rooney DCL

Really don't feel width will be important here.  Guile moreso.  If Rooney starts dropping deep then haul him off immediately and replace with Sandro.  If things get desperate then give Mirallas the stage (assuming he's not still behaving like a tit).
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on September 30, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
Against deep set low block teams like Burnley what they want you to do is punt balls into the box. Ben Mee et al will eat that up all day.

Much better to keep the ball moving back and forth across the box, one twos and quick Klaassen-like passing to try and drag players out of position.

If you are going to pass into the box it should be low, driven passes or deeper incisive through balls, so the style we play might be fine, that said I think they'll just be too organised well drilled for our lot. Nil nil not a bad bet.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 30, 2017, 08:27:39 PM
The one good thing about being so piss poor against FC Flip Flop the other night is the only way is up...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on September 30, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
What I'd like:

GK: Pickford
RB: Kenny
CB: Holgate
CB: Williams
LB: Baines
DM: Schneiderlin/Gana
CM: Sigurdsson
CM: Klaassen/Davies
RAM: Lookman/Sandro/Mirallas
CF: Calvert-Lewin/Rooney
LAM: Vlasic

What I expect:

GK: Pickford
RB: Martina
CB: Holgate
CB: Williams
LB: Baines
DM: Schneiderlin
DM: Gana
RAM: Sandro/Vlasic/Calvert-Lewin
CAM: Klaassen
LAM: Sigurdsson
CF: Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 30, 2017, 08:38:25 PM
Or sideways.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on September 30, 2017, 08:44:33 PM
The one good thing about being so piss poor against FC Flip Flop the other night is the only way is up...

We've thought that a few times already this season
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on September 30, 2017, 09:12:34 PM
Pickford
Martina Williams Keane
                                     Baines

     Roooney Rooney Rooney
Guaye                Morgs
Rooney Rooney Rooney

Sandro Sigurdson Rooney

Rooney Rooney Rooney

           DCL.
This is our actual positions line up ....guess who needs positional awareness.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on September 30, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
Pickford
Martina Williams Keane
                                     Baines

     Roooney Rooney Rooney
Guaye                Morgs
Rooney Rooney Rooney

Sandro Sigurdson Rooney

Rooney Rooney Rooney

           DCL.
This is our actual positions line up ....guess who needs positional awareness.

Honestly? Martina.

No way he stays at right back like you have there.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 30, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
Honestly? Martina.

No way he stays at right back like you have there.

Rooney can cover RB too, then!

Dunno why some people want Kenny out of the lineup, must be a new footy hipster thing.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TSGun on September 30, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
A slight digression but when does the UK put the clocks back for daylight savings? (just so I can figure out tomorrows local starting time)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on September 30, 2017, 10:20:58 PM
                  Pickford

Rooney  Keane Jagielka  Rooney

Rooney  Rooney  Rooney  Rooney

        Rooney             Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on September 30, 2017, 10:24:45 PM
Just looking back at the last game vs Burnley in April ...

Team was:
Robles;
Holgate, Williams, Jags, Baines;
Gueye, Schneid, Davies;
Barkley, Lukaku, Mirallas

We won 3-1 and set a new Everton record of 8 consecutive PL home wins.

Where did it all go wrong ?!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 30, 2017, 10:27:03 PM
Just looking back at the last game vs Burnley in April ...

Team was:
Robles;
Holgate, Williams, Jags, Baines;
Gueye, Schneid, Davies;
Barkley, Lukaku, Mirallas

We won 3-1 and set a new Everton record of 8 consecutive PL home wins.

Where did it all go wrong ?!

Turns out losing your entire attack (Lukaku, Barkley) was indeed a big fucking deal, after all.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Eddiesheeds on September 30, 2017, 10:35:50 PM
A slight digression but when does the UK put the clocks back for daylight savings? (just so I can figure out tomorrows local starting time)
2am on the last Sunday in October
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on September 30, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Apparently a win tomorrow v Burnley could take us up to 8th. Almost back to our probable finishing place...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Juanito on October 01, 2017, 12:27:35 AM
Just looking back at the last game vs Burnley in April ...

Team was:
Robles;
Holgate, Williams, Jags, Baines;
Gueye, Schneid, Davies;
Barkley, Lukaku, Mirallas

We won 3-1 and set a new Everton record of 8 consecutive PL home wins.

Where did it all go wrong ?!

Some people didn't rate Lukaku. Having an elite striker with an outstanding conversion rate masked our limitations.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: DIXIEDEAN on October 01, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
vlasic dcl and niasse have to start tomorrow surely, they are the key players we have. kenny at right back
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluebridge on October 01, 2017, 12:44:17 AM
4-4-1-1 for me
                             Pickford

Kenny     Holgate       Williams (needs must) Baines

Mirallas           Gueye          Davies                Vlasic

                           Sigurdsson

                                DCL
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
Honestly? Martina.

No way he stays at right back like you have there.
Yeah Koemams ego won't allow kenny much game time over Martina.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Brownie20 on October 01, 2017, 02:02:16 AM
Apparently a win tomorrow v Burnley could take us up to 8th. Almost back to our probable finishing place...

And four points off Spurs
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 01, 2017, 02:52:37 AM
And four points off Spurs

Yet lightyears behind
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Brownie20 on October 01, 2017, 03:18:28 AM
Yet lightyears behind

Yeah but I'm a glass half full type of guy.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 05:21:12 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/sep/30/ronald-koeman-everton-burnley
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bluenuck on October 01, 2017, 06:18:20 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/sep/30/ronald-koeman-everton-burnley

Sad thing is is we will let them walk into Goodison and actually give us a good game... When we should be dominating them for the get go.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 07:07:22 AM
                             Pickford
            Kenny Holgate Williams Baines
                 Davies Gana Sigurdsson
                  Lookman DCL Vlasic
 
Stekelenburg, Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Rooney, Sandro, Niasse
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Buck76 on October 01, 2017, 07:43:39 AM
                             Pickford
            Kenny Holgate Williams Baines
                 Davies Gana Sigurdsson
                  Lookman DCL Vlasic
 
Stekelenburg, Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Rooney, Sandro, Niasse

We need to get back to basics, we've not got the players for 433.... we have gone so far back in our play it's shockingly embarrassing.... & the Inept Tactics/team selection by Keoman is criminal, We start so shite cause there's no belief in the team & they're right..... it's like he wants to get sacked & blame Walsh for not getting a Striker.....

                             Pickford
            Kenny Holgate Williams Baines
             Vlasic Davies Gana Sigurdsson
                       DCL Niasse
 
Stekelenburg, Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Rooney, Sandro, lookman
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 11:08:15 AM
The more I think about the FC Flip Flop result in the week the worse it just keeps getting, if Burnley play as they have been and we don't improve hugely in all areas we're up against it to say the least. Will Klueman play Niasse? will DCL and Davies start? how many 10s? will the crowd like the starting 11 and get behind the team to lift us to victory and onto the road to rehab/recovery? Oh i can't fuckin stand the strain.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dekko on October 01, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
Where is Lennon?

How about getting some speed in Team and start 2 proper wingers? and DCL upfront? That would solve our slowness problems. If it doesn’t work, get Niasse in the box to add strength.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 02:17:50 PM
We need to get back to basics, we've not got the players for 433.... we have gone so far back in our play it's shockingly embarrassing.... & the Inept Tactics/team selection by Keoman is criminal, We start so shite cause there's no belief in the team & they're right..... it's like he wants to get sacked & blame Walsh for not getting a Striker.....

                             Pickford
            Kenny Holgate Williams Baines
             Vlasic Davies Gana Sigurdsson
                       DCL Niasse
 
Stekelenburg, Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Rooney, Sandro, lookman

So all you would do is change Lookman for Niasse?

4-3-3, 4-4-2 can both become each other, and a few other combinations throughout a match.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 01, 2017, 03:28:05 PM
So all you would do is change Lookman for Niasse?

4-3-3, 4-4-2 can both become each other, and a few other combinations throughout a match.

Once the whistle goes it will be the usual everyman for himself formation . Mind you even a scrappy 1-0 will lift us into the top half and allow us all to get behind the Manager over the international break . A loss however ......................
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
Not looking forward to this at all
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 01, 2017, 03:44:34 PM
A win really is essential today

I think Vlasic has earned a start after his performance in europe and would be reassuring to see him start so at least the fans can be assured that Koeman is noticing some of the things that has been going wrong with team selection recently

I think Niasse will be on the bench, if we do start the way we usually do i.e. Shite first half I really hope he does call on him to come on and make an impact

If he does start without Vlasic but does start the full trio of Rooney, Klaassen and Sigurdsson then I fear he may not be learning anything
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Buck76 on October 01, 2017, 04:07:30 PM
So all you would do is change Lookman for Niasse?

4-3-3, 4-4-2 can both become each other, and a few other combinations throughout a match.

Just need to lose this notion we can play a formation we clearly don't have the players for, we are far too narrow, pedestrian & toothless to be kidding ourselves with a 433.... our team spirit has been basically distroyed and the management of the squad at every level has been totally inept.

 
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 04:12:38 PM
Not sure why, but I'm feeling confident about this one.

A solid win here would make all the hysterical doom and gloom merchants on here over the last few days look a bit silly.

Or we might get battered and I'll become one of them.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Simon Paul on October 01, 2017, 04:14:18 PM
Have my season ticket away for this today. Will probably end up watching on TV though
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
Not sure why, but I'm feeling confident about this one.

A solid win here would make all the hysterical doom and gloom merchants on here over the last few days look a bit silly.

Or we might get battered and I'll become one of them.

Don't think there's been much hysteria tbh. Just people who can see where this train is headed.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: DannyR on October 01, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
Hope we put a shit load past these.

Expecting a draw or to lose.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 04:34:26 PM
Win today, however it comes, and we go 8th which after the start we have had is about par to be honest.

Yes it's been shite to watch but there is still time for him to realise the errors he keeps making and rectify them. I think he's on a game by game judgement at the minute by the fans, up to him how much he's arsed about staying really.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
Don't think there's been much hysteria tbh.

From the last 24 hours on this thread and one other I could be bothered to look into below.



Oh i can't fuckin stand the strain.

our team spirit has been basically distroyed and the management of the squad at every level has been totally inept.

Yeah Koemams ego won't allow kenny much game time over Martina.

Moyes was world class

i only say Unsworth as he will bring some passion to our team and he his team actually play some football.  he isnt too arrogant to make changes.

Koeman actually seems like he is waiting for his next job ;/

Problem is a lot of us havnt seen such piss poor performances in over thirty odd years.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
From the last 24 hours on this thread and one other I could be bothered to look into below.




Ok maybe a little hysteria, but there's also lots of calmer, more considered posters who broadly agree with the sentiment that he needs to go based upon evidence and reason.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 05:06:29 PM
So far this season Burnley have beat Chelsea away and drew at Spurs and Liverpool.

Let's not pretend this is going to be a push over, they're technically poor but a very well drilled side
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 05:18:06 PM
Ok maybe a little hysteria, but there's also lots of calmer, more considered posters who broadly agree with the sentiment that he needs to go based upon evidence and reason.

Yeah for sure. I wouldn't even be upset if we got rid of him as I've never massively rated him, so I'm not particularly confident he'll ever turn out to be a massive success for us.

But, that aside, I think he did pretty well last season and there's enough mitigating circumstances (mostly injuries, a brand new squad to integrate, and a challenging fixture schedule) that it feels premature to say he should be fired now based on the season so far.

Ultimately for me it comes down to what the alternative is. Just getting rid without a sensible replacement lined up would be foolish in my opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Shropshire Blue on October 01, 2017, 05:22:02 PM
We can't be making an effort ourselves now can we! It has been different at Goodison. Everton are "we", players, fans. If we think we may be able to help then we should try, not just sit there thinking we're the King with his jester.

I know all this about they get paid loads, but we play against teams who also get paid loads, so that's cancelled out. Plus we know this before we go the match. We hurt just the same when we lose as I'm sure fans did in the 19th Century when the players were on their wages then.
I didn't mean that to be turned into a rant sorry.
You're right it hasn't always been like this. Sadly I think it's partly down to a modern culture of believing we have a right that everything should be done for us and done instantly.
It's not just Everton though, it's there throughout football.
Hypocrisy by fans everywhere is both an annoyance and an endless source of amusement.
We need to spend the money. Well, so long as it isn't mine.
Sky is ruining football, I know I watch Sky every day.
The media is crap,  I know that as well because I buy it.
You can't believe a f***ing  thing you read in the papers. Koeman should be sacked , The Daily Mail said Messi liked Merseyside and we didn't pick up on it.
TV pundit says we need a centre forward. Never says a good word about us the bellend.

There's a whole new thread in here somewhere.

Back on topic (other) people need to make a noise and create atmosphere.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
Yeah for sure. I wouldn't even be upset if we got rid of him as I've never massively rated him, so I'm not particularly confident he'll ever turn out to be a massive success for us.

But, that aside, I think he did pretty well last season and there's enough mitigating circumstances (mostly injuries, a brand new squad to integrate, and a challenging fixture schedule) that it feels premature to say he should be fired now based on the season so far.

Ultimately for me it comes down to what the alternative is. Just getting rid without a sensible replacement lined up would be foolish in my opinion.

It's probably understandable we did well in his first season, everyone knows what Koeman did as a player and no doubt they would've been desperate to impress him.
Over time as he's put his stamp onto the team and moulded it into his side we've become unbalanced, slow & shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 05:26:04 PM
in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

Don't do it
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 05:28:42 PM
Not sure why, but I'm feeling confident about this one.

A solid win here would make all the hysterical doom and gloom merchants on here over the last few days look a bit silly.

Or we might get battered and I'll become one of them.

now that is hysterical, have you seen us play this season? what makes you think for this one match, Koeman will change his whole ethos?


fuck it.

4-0 double for Niasse and DCL.
COYB
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Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

Maybe if you got rid of the massive horrible signature, your posts wouldn't stick out as much :)

To be fair, I did take your quote on Moyes a bit out of context. But you have seriously suggested Unsworth as manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
So far this season Burnley have beat Chelsea away and drew at Spurs and Liverpool.

Let's not pretend this is going to be a push over, they're technically poor but a very well drilled side

Let's not hand out the excuses before hand though.

Yeah so far they've done well against the better teams but they've also struggled against others. By far and away their best result was against Chelsea but they were hangling on against 9 men in the end to get a freak win, let's not paint them as something to be feared.

Failing to win today would be very poor. Immunity was meant to have stopped at the Utd game, it can't keep on.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
Maybe if you got rid of the massive horrible signature, your posts wouldn't stick out as much :)

To be fair, I did take your quote on Moyes a bit out of context. But you have seriously suggested Unsworth as manager.

I'll take it out. why is the sig horrible? its the evolution of our club badge..

Yes i have suggested Unsworth, but not seriously ive said it on a post, it causes fume which provide laughs,

I mention Unsworth as his under 23 team has the opposite ethos of our first team.. I'd want a decent manager, someone who is going to take us up some levels, not only in his name. but his tactics.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheRam on October 01, 2017, 05:58:50 PM
Same debate going on in about five other threads.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
Well new dawn New day ,and all that ...
COYB we should smash these off the park .
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 06:19:46 PM
I'll take it out. why is the sig horrible? its the evolution of our club badge..

It's just massive and annoying to scroll past every single time I read one of your posts.

My personal opinion though, no big deal. Thanks for getting rid though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
It's just massive and annoying to scroll past every single time I read one of your posts.

My personal opinion though, no big deal. Thanks for getting rid though.

i don't see any sigs. easy to bin them all on setup :)

[click on your own name - top right - then change 'forum profile']
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 06:39:44 PM
I'm still so pissed off about Thursday I can hardly bring myself to watch this.

I'm gonna look at the team news and if we play 4-3-3 again with Schneids, gana and klaassen in midfield and sigs, Rooney and Sandro up front I'm not watching it and we will lose.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 06:50:02 PM
I'm guessing a slow start with a few really good chances for Burnley. Koeman will change it at half time and we'll look a bit better but still not quite good enough. Burnley will score with 20 minutes to go, he'll bring on some width and or pace for us to actually look like a team again. The game will finish 1-1 Sig scoring in the 85th minute.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 07:00:12 PM
https://twitter.com/FourthOfficial_/status/913460268180615169
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
https://twitter.com/FourthOfficial_/status/913460268180615169

If that is the team he's learnt nothing so far this season and we're in for a long afternoon.

ETA: Just clocked the date.

ETAII: It'll still probably be correct.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 01, 2017, 07:01:57 PM
https://twitter.com/FourthOfficial_/status/913460268180615169
Done a Todd there pal
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 07:02:44 PM
Thursdays team that Macca you dozy twat
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/FourthOfficial_/status/913460268180615169

Great
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
Thursdays team that Macca you dozy twat

Oh phew, Full Re-Todd.

I bet it is the same side, though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 07:05:29 PM
Chill people, im told Niasse starts in goal with Pickford in the number 10 role just behind Baines as a striker
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
No width, no pace, no surprises, no fucking idea! If that's the confirmed team. If not I will take that back.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 07:10:02 PM
No width, no pace, no surprises, no fucking idea! If that's the confirmed team. If not I will take that back.

Do you even read?

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:12:23 PM
I was told there would be no reading?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 07:13:09 PM
Do you even read?
Yes I do. I wrote and posted before I saw the reply. My apologies to you, I'm sorry, ok?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
Do you even read?
Any comments to the others that posted replies eh?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 01, 2017, 07:17:35 PM
Not even kicked off and people are losing the plot or losing it with each other.

I’m out.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 01, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
Think I preferred Macca team
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 01, 2017, 07:18:18 PM
4-4-2 Finally
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 07:18:22 PM
So close
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
4-4-2 Finally

Don't tease me like that.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 01, 2017, 07:21:09 PM
Pickford
Maryina
Baines
Keane
Williams
Gueye
Schneiderlin
Vlasic
Sigurdsson
DCL
Niasse
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/914463691227136000
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:21:48 PM
DCL and Niasse up top!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
4-4-2 Finally

Nah, you don't spend £45m on Sig to play him wide left. He'll play in the No 10 role, DCL out right and Vlasic left.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
It's not a 4-4-2 at all. Rooney will be taking the ball off the keeper as usual.

Just noticed he's not starting.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 07:22:35 PM
Not even kicked off and people are losing the plot or losing it with each other.

I'm out.
Ha ha, I'm not losing the plot, just asked the question as to why I was the one who got the sarky comment and not others who posted after reading the link. I've no problems with anyone on here.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
Pickford
Maryina
Baines
Keane
Williams
Gueye
Schneiderlin
Vlasic
Sigurdsson
DCL
Niasse
It's not great but at least Rooney is out leaving sig to try and run things
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
But wait, he dropped Holgate and kept Williams...and Kenny not even in the team??
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 01, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
It's not a 4-4-2 at all. Rooney will be taking the ball off the keeper as usual.
He will do well from the bench like
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ravardo on October 01, 2017, 07:23:50 PM
It's not a 4-4-2 at all. Rooney will be taking the ball off the keeper as usual.

Hopefully after he comes on and scores
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:24:20 PM
It's not a 4-4-2 at all. Rooney will be taking the ball off the keeper as usual.

Just noticed he's not starting.

If/when he comes on.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Shogun on October 01, 2017, 07:24:45 PM
https://twitter.com/burnleyofficial/status/914463661162364928
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
Side looks more balanced than it has done in a while
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Shogun on October 01, 2017, 07:32:48 PM
Ashley Williams can fuck off tbh.

How a player can make countless mistakes and still be selected I don't know.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 07:36:32 PM
At least today we have the prospect of some pace and width in the team.

Really hope we play well and Koeman sees what it can produce.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 07:36:32 PM
He's trying something different so credit for that.

But Martina in a back four? Is there anyone left besides Koeman who thinks that's a good idea?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
Attacking looking bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
He's trying something different so credit for that.

But Martina in a back four? Is there anyone left besides Koeman who thinks that's a good idea?

Ashley Williams maybe? Makes him look less incompetent.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 07:38:44 PM
no happy with Schneiderlin starting, fine with the rest really
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dreggs on October 01, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
This is the team...
now let's go for it !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 07:40:16 PM
By jove he has nearly got it right.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheRam on October 01, 2017, 07:40:56 PM
Relatively happy with that.

DCL and Niasse up top will get the crowd going from the start.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 07:41:02 PM
Don't think it'll be an easy game at all, they've started well and our confidence is somewhere around 0. However, I'm interested how we look minus Rooney, will we still look like a cobbled together mess or something more cohesive..?

I hope Sigurdsson is more central.

I'm not expecting it given our form but if we can finish the day on 10 pts the table starts to look a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
Ashley Williams can fuck off tbh.

How a player can make countless mistakes and still be selected I don't know.

Lack of options?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:41:57 PM
Ashley Williams maybe? Makes him look less incompetent.

It's clear Koeman put the goal last Saturday 100% on Holgate, and gave no credit to how thin he was spread covering for Martina and Williams.

I guess he just kept his eyes closed on Thursday.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dreggs on October 01, 2017, 07:42:00 PM
Would just love Lookman to get a cheeky half hour too
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Relatively happy with that.

DCL and Niasse up top will get the crowd going from the start.



I can see DCL playing from the right and Vlasic from the left. Sig in the No 10 role with no-one stood on his toes all game.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 07:42:41 PM
no happy with Schneiderlin starting, fine with the rest really

Yeah, I would've had Davies in there with Gana, and Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lack of options?

Holgate could start learning how to be a Premiership CB next to someone fit to teach him the craft.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 07:43:19 PM
Quite happy with team.

Vlasic had to start.

Worried about the constant picking of Williams.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 07:43:53 PM
Dropping Rooney will create space for Sigurdsson, this is his game to control.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
Hendrick, Ward and Brady for them

Just another reminder of the shit international break I have to endure watching Ireland
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 07:46:12 PM
Dropping Rooney will create space for Sigurdsson, this is his game to control.

This is key for me. After a dozen games he now gives the record signing his preferred position with space. A good team performance with everything flowing through Sig should awaken Koeman's eyes.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:48:40 PM
Hendrick, Ward and Brady for them

Just another reminder of the shit international break I have to endure watching Ireland

I look at it as a weekend of catching up on my sleep.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
No excuses really and what the fans have asked for. Just confidence is the main concern. Early goal we will be fine, the longer it goes on I will be concerned.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 07:49:31 PM
This is key for me. After a dozen games he now gives the record signing his preferred position with space. A good team performance with everything flowing through Sig should awaken Koeman's eyes.

Yes, but hopefully he gives it more than "60 minutes against 10 men behind the ball" Burnley for it to come together.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 07:49:45 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/914463691227136000

I seriously cant understand/believe this team.

we have 2 players at the back who are prone to mistakes, one of them made around 10 mistakes in the last match he played in!!  Dropping 2 players who most Evertonians see as better than Martina and Williams..

the formation will be  4 2 1 3, the same formation that causes the issues. albeit we have a better attacking balance, but still players out of position to fit this shit formation, we will struggle defensively if it is  4 2 1 3.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
Sky not remotely interested in the match. Just the barcodes vs shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 07:52:39 PM
Looks like a positive change in formation and personnel.

But guys, dont get wound up if we're not that great. Confidence is low and some players havent played together.

And remember Burnley are no mugs... they drew at Lpool & Spurs.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 07:53:15 PM
Confidence is key. If we can win this and give a bit of excitement it will give us something to build on
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 07:55:06 PM
Win today takes us upto 8th, crikey
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
Holgate could start learning how to be a Premiership CB next to someone fit to teach him the craft.


Koeman has a hard time applying common sense, He berated Williams publicly after the match for his mistake, then  drops the Holgate..
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 07:57:29 PM
Not convinced by the team myself still to much deadweight in it and to narrow, but there's still plenty enough to beat these.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
Confidence is key. If we can win this and give a bit of excitement it will give us something to build on

If building involves Martina and Williams, im not for it, if it was building with players who will be part of our future, im behind that 1000%.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
Wow, Koeman has dropped Rooney from the starting lineup!

Niasse starts but I get the feeling he best serves Everton as an impact player coming on. Martina and Williams in defence - I can just see Scott Arfield having a field day.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 07:59:42 PM
If building involves Martina and Williams, im not for it, if it was building with players who will be part of our future, im behind that 1000%.

Calvert Lewin, Vlasic etc are part of our future. Look at the whole pitch instead of focusing on two players.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:00:11 PM
Ronald keeps referring to confidence and mental issues like it is something outside of his control. It's on you Ronald to change it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Mobile friendly streams lads and lasses?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:01:30 PM
Calvert Lewin, Vlasic etc are part of our future. Look at the whole pitch instead of focusing on two players.

but those 2 players have cost us this season. easy errors that experienced players shouldnt be making.. unless they're not good enough to be in the team.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
Fuck the performance today, just win
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
debating Koeman on NBCSN
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:03:34 PM
Grim stats on shooting and shot chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:04:04 PM
Looks like a positive change in formation and personnel.

But guys, dont get wound up if we're not that great. Confidence is low and some players havent played together.

And remember Burnley are no mugs... they drew at Lpool & Spurs.

And beat Chelsea away on the opening day.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:05:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing more of Vlasic.

Niasse from the start is going to be a much bigger ask for him too, we'll have to see how he copes.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:05:51 PM
Mobile friendly streams lads and lasses?


https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/73lbnf/1315_gmt_everton_vs_burnley/

http://www.genti.stream/everton-live-stream.php
http://88live.me/skynetsports1.html


acestream://f01dd99ffaa3b1d271ff1f14cc57ecb38a86dbbb
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
If it's 4-4-2 then i'm fairly impressed, Davies should be in the centre alongside Gana though as that's still a little bit too defensive but Schneids might play well in a midfield 2, we shall see.

At least it looks like with have some pace and width for a change

Still gonna be tough though against a 5 man midfield
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 08:06:13 PM
Souness and Carragher loving how shit we've been lately
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 08:06:32 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/73lbnf/1315_gmt_everton_vs_burnley/

http://www.genti.stream/everton-live-stream.php
http://88live.me/skynetsports1.html


acestream://f01dd99ffaa3b1d271ff1f14cc57ecb38a86dbbb

Cheers pal
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:07:01 PM
The pre excuses crowd are worse than the pre gloom...
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-burnley-live-streaming
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
Big ask of Niasse this. He won't be match fit and might end up doing himself no favours. Almost like Koeman has just shrugged his shoulders and said 'Okay then, there he is instead of one of England's best ever players.'

Love him to score in the opening 5 minutes though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:08:33 PM
The pre excuses crowd are worse than the pre gloom...

How are people making excuses? By saying Burnley have been a tough nut to crack away from home this season?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
burnley's good start ends here. coyb!!

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
so nailed on Chris Wood to open proceedings then?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
How are people making excuses? By saying Burnley have been a tough nut to crack away from home this season?
you havn't caught the drift mate
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 08:11:10 PM
Hoping Niasse's movement both on and off the ball creates more for DCL and Sig.
reasonably confident of a win here
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:11:47 PM
Big ask of Niasse this. He won't be match fit and might end up doing himself no favours. Almost like Koeman has just shrugged his shoulders and said 'Okay then, there he is instead of one of England's best ever players.'

Love him to score in the opening 5 minutes though.

Yes, Koeman wouldn't be averse to throwing someone under the bus to make a point.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:12:28 PM
Souness and Carragher loving how shit we've been lately

Smug pair of cunts
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:12:48 PM
Big ask of Niasse this. He won't be match fit and might end up doing himself no favours. Almost like Koeman has just shrugged his shoulders and said 'Okay then, there he is instead of one of England's best ever players.'

Love him to score in the opening 5 minutes though.

Yep, be interesting to see how he does from the start

I like the look of him though, there is something within his play, he seems to have a knack of getting in the right positions
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:12:49 PM
Hope Souness has some really bad health problems in the future.

Cannot stand the cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 08:13:39 PM
Everton Newcastle double would do nicely and shut those sky cunts up for a while
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:14:20 PM
How are people making excuses? By saying Burnley have been a tough nut to crack away from home this season?

Koeman fears Burnley, hence the 2 defensive midfielders again. ( I guess it was obvious tho, he had the same 2 against the mighty Apollon)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ravardo on October 01, 2017, 08:15:17 PM
burnley havent won here since 1976 lets hope that continues
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Hope Souness has some really bad health problems in the future.

Cannot stand the cunt.
Bit harsh even for a cunt?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 08:16:27 PM
Chris Wood nailed on to score.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 08:16:39 PM
Just come on Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
lively early by Niasse
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: keverton1971 on October 01, 2017, 08:18:37 PM
http://www.sport365.live/en/player/59d0a4f30601c441992992/1/1034/59d0eaf94b06d/EvertonFC-BurnleyFC/768/432
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:18:41 PM
Look better already.

Sigurdsson dropping deeper.

He was surprised that Baines wasn't bombing on.

I wasn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 01, 2017, 08:19:25 PM
my streams gone down, any good ones??
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
Bit harsh even for a cunt?

Honest though
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
DCL is sex on the pitch sometimes, ain't he?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
Great from Niasse and DCL.

Poor shot from Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:20:54 PM
Gotta do better there Sig.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:21:22 PM
Fook me should have buried it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:21:51 PM
Should be one up, but best start we've had this season
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:21:55 PM
Nice work though by DCL, Vlasic. Good to see us break at pace.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 01, 2017, 08:22:59 PM
streams lads??
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:23:14 PM
Damn it!! Great chance that
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:23:32 PM
streams lads??

http://www.genti.stream/everton-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 08:23:35 PM
Niasse is sharp.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:23:40 PM
Yes, Koeman wouldn't be averse to throwing someone under the bus to make a point.

As long as he ends with himself
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:23:46 PM
I was skeptical, but Niasse looks like he was born to play next to DCL.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:24:47 PM
Sigurdsson taking ownership, though.  Knows he needs to finish better, and he is staying active.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:25:23 PM
streams lads??

http://livestreaming24.net/watch/Everton-Burnley
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: MarcusFenix on October 01, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
my streams gone down, any good ones??

Acestream ID , running very nicely
e061202217ea02d1c62e03688eaa3 a60ee7b6829
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 08:25:30 PM
How we doing. Got caught having a longer poo then Id hoped and missed the first 10 minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:25:44 PM
Not that it means much unless we can score, but it's been the brightest start to a game this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:25:46 PM
This is how we need to play against weaker teams at home. High intensity and loads of players in the box.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
Really liking Vlasic so far today.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:27:24 PM
Look a different team so far. In a good way. Forward thinking, passes over the top. Baines more involved.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
my streams gone down, any good ones??
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-burnley-live-streaming
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:27:39 PM
Wow, attacking with 3/4 players and suddenly we look a threat. Who'd have thought it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
These look dangerous
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Really liking Vlasic so far today.

He's looked really hungry whenever he's played
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
Almost looks like a Brazilian Box with two holders and the two wide players tucking in behind two strikers
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:30:06 PM
Looks way more balanced, we look better going forward by some distance
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:30:53 PM
Almost looks like a Brazilian Box with two holders and the two wide players tucking in behind two strikers

I'm sure we'll fold just like one also.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Sig too slow there !
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:31:28 PM
Again great from Niasse, poor from Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:31:32 PM
fucking hell Sig.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
Doesn't look like he has much confidence right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:31:38 PM
These look dangerous
It's us who look vulnerable
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:31:43 PM
Wtf just fooking shoot
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:31:50 PM
Oh Sigurdsson, couldn't get it out of his feet there. Great position.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Optimistic Blue on October 01, 2017, 08:31:54 PM
Oh yeah we're managing to string some passes together against the most backs to the wall- cling on for dear life team in the premier league
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Michael Keane looking like he has come straight from the set of Peaky Blinders
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:32:39 PM
Vlasic is better than Messi and Ronaldo combined.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:33:11 PM
impressed with Niasses' build up play.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:33:11 PM
....I mean at least we do genuinely look like we have an idea today.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:33:28 PM
Niasse is a nuisance
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
SIg should have scored twice

The commentator on my American stream keeps calling them 'Burmey' as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Gash on October 01, 2017, 08:33:44 PM
How we doing. Got caught having a longer poo then Id hoped and missed the first 10 minutes

Though you said it was a chore and you weren't going watch today?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 08:34:15 PM
Vlasic and DCL literally getting the Glawdys on their feet, great stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:34:19 PM
Vlas, Niasse & DCL so refreshing.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 08:34:36 PM
Do look better going forward like.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:34:39 PM
Vlasic looks superb
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
Baines, man.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:35:36 PM
Absolutely swarming here, loving it
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:35:53 PM
I do wish we wouldn't play with 2 CDMs at home though, it slows down a lot in that area.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
Awful
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 08:36:19 PM
A goal would be nice now to settle the nerves. Some nice play and a few more shots on target so far
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mr. Devil on October 01, 2017, 08:36:19 PM
Get in.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
Good goal that, completely undeserved.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 08:36:24 PM
ffs...what a mess :(
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:36:25 PM
That Arfield run was one of the clumsy bits of play I've seen for a while
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
one chance, they convert
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Great cover down the right there
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:36:44 PM
Oh look at that.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:36:56 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
So it begins...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:37:31 PM
What's the point lads.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
From the NBC commentary of the replay as I typed - "played onside by Ashley Williams"
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
Sickener after a bright start. :(
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:37:52 PM
What was Schneiderlin doing there?

A real shame, given the bright start.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:37:57 PM
Didn't really do anything wrong there, just a good goal.

Need to keep our heads up here
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Commentators blaming Vlasic when Martina  is just dawdling about, marking no one again.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:38:09 PM
Defend on the edge of you 6 yard box and you'll get punished
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
If we weren't struggling for confidence this would be fine. Need the crowd to get behind what the team are trying to do today.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
Either burnley are a fantastic football team or we are utterly shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:38:23 PM
Vlasic caught sleeping and Williams keeping everyone onside by being 2 yards behind the rest of the defence.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 08:38:35 PM
Totally undeserved. Wankers
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:38:49 PM
Decent goal to be fair
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:39:09 PM
Brilliant goal in fairness. Not just a team of cloggers by any stretch.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:39:16 PM
Can't stand listening to Phil Neville on the commentary.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
Martina did absolutely nothing in his area of the pitch. Didn't even look arsed about defending.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
If we weren't struggling for confidence this would be fine. Need the crowd to get behind what the team are trying to do today.

As if you could be arsed if you were there. Proper sit on your seat with your head in hands this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
Crowd singing after we conceded.. good sign.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:39:44 PM
This was always why they were dangerous to play on our current mindset.  Opportunistic as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 08:39:50 PM
will we ever keep a clean sheet ever again?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:39:56 PM
Crowd could get a bit tasty now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 08:40:06 PM
From the NBC commentary of the replay as I typed - "played onside by Ashley Williams"

Ah...was wondering who would find a reason to blame Williams for that goal, just for your info Sky blamed Vlassic for ball watching.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
Sigg/son needs 30 secs to T a shot useless cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:40:52 PM
Not even mad anymore, just apathetic to it all.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
Still don't think playing two defensive type CM's actually helps us defensively. Davies a better option today.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:41:54 PM
Schneiderlin is Ray Wilkins
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Our £45m record signing doesn't really deserve a place in the team at the minute. Tough thing to say but true.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:42:05 PM
From what I saw...just all credit to Burnley.  Would have to do uber slow-mo replay to see if I noticed what NBC meant by the Williams thing.

/do NOT see myself in the mood for that
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
Ah...was wondering who would find a reason to blame Williams for that goal, just for your info Sky blamed Vlassic for ball watching.

He did fall asleep a bit but Hendrick made an absolute mug of Schneiderlin too.

Williams is still dogshit, but he wasn't at fault for the goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:42:25 PM
Can't stand listening to Phil Neville on the commentary.

It's like he's commenting from Anne Frank's wardrobe
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
Not to state the obvious, but if we could score before half time it'd be huge.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:43:19 PM
How many touches does Gana want? Shoot or fucking lay it off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:43:34 PM
will we ever keep a clean sheet ever again?

Not with this defence, no.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:43:39 PM
Crowd booing Schneiderlin already for his back passing..
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 08:43:40 PM
Thats what happens when you dont take your chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 08:43:43 PM
Toxic Goodison is the worst kind of Goodison
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dchans on October 01, 2017, 08:43:53 PM
Started great - need to get back on the front foot again and these are there to be beaten today
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Not sure why we start with 2 defensive mids against very average teams. Tbh it makes no difference either way as we always look shame at the back so we may as well have the extra body further up.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:44:02 PM
We haven't even been shit, that's that's the worst part. When it's against you though, it really is. These little teams can come here and genuinely threaten us because were so weak spirited right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
When Baines can't be fucked with a decent haircut anymore you know things are bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2017, 08:44:28 PM
It's like he's commenting from Anne Frank's wardrobe

I'm sure he's pointing at all the right places though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Love that work by Niasse
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
23-pass move leading to the goal, 2nd highest in the Prem this season
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:44:50 PM
Crowd super restless.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lincs Toffee on October 01, 2017, 08:44:54 PM
Davies on for Gueye for me
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 08:45:18 PM
Morgan is an ordinary player.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Gueye has been awful every time he gets on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
we play ponderous, measured, 'blackboard' football. road to nowhere...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
We'll still win this.. just need the goal. I'd get Davies on though to drive the midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:45:41 PM
The rest of the team could really do with learning how to receive the ball and turn from Vlasic.

We keep just playing the ball the way we're facing as it's the easy option
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
Not even mad anymore, just apathetic to it all.
Same...it's abject shite no positives apart from Rooney not on to make it even worse.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: griff969 on October 01, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
surely its time to bin the two holding midfielders formation
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
We haven't been too bad really you can tell the team is nervous though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 08:46:31 PM
We haven't even been shit, that's that's the worst part. When it's against you though, it really is. These little teams can come here and genuinely threaten us because were so weak spirited right now.

We've actually been decent haven't we.

Vlasic look a real player... apart from that whole not following his man part

I will say though, Niasse is not a footballer. His brain isn't on the level it needs to be, and our attacks break down.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:46:40 PM
The rest of the team could really do with learning how to receive the ball and turn from Vlasic.

We keep just playing the ball the way we're facing as it's the easy option
It's called terror.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:46:41 PM
Is Sigurdsson really a 45m pound player? I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
I'd get Klaassen on, personally.  This match is screaming for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:47:16 PM
Both DM's stinking the place out along with Gylfi. Why do we need both on.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
We've been much better here. I'm not nearly as pissed off about being behind because I can see a plan and a threat, for a change.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 08:47:55 PM
I think Sig has been one of the better performances. He at least moves the ball between the lines. He should have scored though
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:48:03 PM
Gueye has been awful every time he gets on the ball.

I'd still take Schniederlin off before him, at least Gueye is putting himself about and getting on the ball
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
Think we're more likely to concede again before we score.

Very worrying.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
Goal would transform us. COYB !
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
We've actually been decent haven't we.

Vlasic look a real player... apart from that whole not following his man part

I will say though, Niasse is not a footballer. His brain isn't on the level it needs to be, and our attacks break down.

Give it a rest. He's done nothing wrong so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 08:48:43 PM
Is Sigurdsson really a 45m pound player? I just don't see it.
We were mugs to pay that and should have walked away.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:48:45 PM
Niasse, Vlasic, and DCL have been bright spots.

And that is completely unsurprising.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:49:14 PM
Useless from Schneiderlin there
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 08:49:17 PM
I'd still take Schniederlin off before him, at least Gueye is putting himself about and getting on the ball

Gueye isn't disciplined enough to keep his position if he's the only DM. Best part of his game is hunting the ball, it'd leave us too open.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 08:49:22 PM
Yes, Phil Neville. All of their attacks down the left are Vlasic's fault. Definitely Vlasic's fault. Nobody else over there who might be leaving them too much space.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blargins on October 01, 2017, 08:49:51 PM
When Baines can't be fucked with a decent haircut anymore you know things are bad.

Um... when has he ever had a decent haircut?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:50:05 PM
Boom Schneiderlin air shot. What a shitter.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:50:28 PM
Rooney would at least take any chances and not bottle it in front of goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
Rooney for Niasse
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:51:13 PM
Is Sigurdsson really a 45m pound player? I just don't see it.
No never was, overated shite
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blargins on October 01, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Rooney would at least take any chances and not bottle it in front of goal.

Nah, he'd fall over.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 08:51:40 PM
Boom Schneiderlin air shot. What a shitter.
I thought he was poor for the goal slso
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
Got a weird feel this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
Rooney for Niasse

Not sure how Niasse is the one you have a problem with after this 35 minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:53:08 PM
Rooney would at least take any chances and not bottle it in front of goal.

He wouldn't be in the position to have the chances. He'd be next to our centre halves floating useless passes out to Martina with the outside of his foot, pretending that he's 'running the game from deep'.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:54:08 PM
Didn't Martinez start home games with 2 CDMS, or am I imagining this?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:54:15 PM
Heads and arses have gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
He wouldn't be in the position to have the chances. He'd be next to our centre halves floating useless passes out to Martina with the outside of his foot, pretending that he's 'running the game from deep'.

Yes, at least Sigurdsson is keeping some sort of shape.

The fact he hasn't been very good on the ball is another issue, though 😁
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:54:58 PM
Need some inspiration
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:55:05 PM
Niasse is so awkward.

Working really hard though and putting them on the back foot.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:55:29 PM
Niasse is so awkward.

Working really hard though and putting them on the back foot.

He is.. but i don't think you're allowed to say he isn't that good on here.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Heisenberg on October 01, 2017, 08:55:39 PM
This is not a team that's had 150 million investment. This isn't a blip
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:55:44 PM
Heads and arses have gone.

Seems like yours have.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:56:24 PM
Yes, at least Sigurdsson is keeping some sort of shape.

The fact he hasn't been very good on the ball is another issue, though 😁

I'd give him a shot, though.  Think he's close to sorting himself out.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
Vlasic and Calvert-Lewin are the only players who give us any sort of control in the final third.

Promising. But also very sad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 08:56:38 PM
If this was still 0-0 I wouldn't be too concerned. We're playing okay and just need a break. The fact we're behind means we're probably not  winning today's game.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 08:56:39 PM
Guaranteed he hauls off players that have done alright like Niasse, DCL, and/or Vlasic, and puts on Rooney, Klaassen, and Sandro.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:56:47 PM
Jesus Christ, Williams is bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Trowel on October 01, 2017, 08:56:47 PM
Unbelievable.

Well, believable really.

So lucky.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
*circus music*
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:57:13 PM
Williams just lucked out.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
Williams ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
Seems like yours have.
Yup. Like the team and crowd completely devoid of confidence that we can get back into this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
Williams and Sig both making outrageous decisions to bang the ball up field low and losing it
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2017, 08:57:31 PM
Got away with that one, yes, he threw himself to the ground, but it was a clear foul.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
obligatory pass from Williams to the opposition.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
this is grim. burnley free-flowing by comparison.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
Don't think that was a dive. Albeit not a penalty either.

Williams with another mistake.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 08:58:05 PM
Great refereeing
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dchans on October 01, 2017, 08:58:11 PM
Half time boos gonna be massive
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:58:17 PM
That was a pen, can't wait until Jags is back.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 08:58:19 PM
Lucky to get away with that the useless cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheRam on October 01, 2017, 08:58:28 PM
Bunch of shithouses.

No ones interested since we went a goal down.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 08:58:35 PM
Piss poor defending from Baines there.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 08:58:43 PM
Williams has to be off at the half, Holgate on.

Schneiderlin has to be off at the half, Klaassen on.

I'd like to throw Davies or Sandro on, but even I'm not quite THAT mad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
this is grim. burnley free-flowing by comparison.
We are easily one of the worst teams in the league atm. Terrible everywhere on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Goaljira on October 01, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Williams is a fucking car crash.  But one that keeps happening again and again.  Like a crash test dummy setup.  He's just an absolute fucking liability.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 08:59:27 PM
Guaranteed he hauls off players that have done alright like Niasse, DCL, and/or Vlasic, and puts on Rooney, Klaassen, and Sandro.
That hints he's got a plan Sam....Nah
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 08:59:28 PM
Such a shame after we did start well that Sigurdsson couldn't take one of those chances. When they scored the paper thin confidence we started with just left us completely.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 08:59:33 PM
I'd put Sigurdsson into the midfield two for one of Gana or Schniederlin
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 08:59:41 PM
Cue chorus of half arsed boo's at HT. 
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
If we lose this, he has got to go, right? There's no way you can keep him here.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 08:59:51 PM
All these CMs and none of them can play football.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
He wouldn't be in the position to have the chances. He'd be next to our centre halves floating useless passes out to Martina with the outside of his foot, pretending that he's 'running the game from deep'.

Totally different point.

I was saying Rooney is a natural finisher compared to the others fluffing their shots.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:00:09 PM
Williams is a fucking car crash.  But one that keeps happening again and again.  Like a crash test dummy setup.  He's just an absolute fucking liability.
Horrible player
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Redartin on October 01, 2017, 09:00:12 PM
Need some inspiration

I'd put Dyche in our dugout for the second half.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2017, 09:00:25 PM
What on earth am I watching here, absolutely terrible game of football. Everton are all over the shop and don't even look interested. Sleepwalking.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:00:29 PM
LOL @ Williams, Burnely have a corner, Williams points to Vlasic to mark Burnleys  main threat at corners, Wood.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Goaljira on October 01, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
Theres just no sense of urgency or purpose or anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
Great from Gana to win the ball back, and then Sigurdsson passes the ball backwards.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
Oh Niasse... what was that.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:01:50 PM
If we lose this, he has got to go, right? There's no way you can keep him here.
45 minutes to save his job.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 01, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
Niassie will never be more than an impact sub.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
whys he not fucking crossing that there? what the fuck are we doing?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Davies and Kenny on for me. Fuck Martina and Gana off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:02:11 PM
Burnley are head and shoulders ahead of us. They are completely outplaying us. All that money spent and we might not have a single player good enough for any of the teams above us. Weve snapped up a whole load of bang average players for crazy prices.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:02:13 PM
Oh Baines, again...cuts back. There is like 10 seconds left, cross the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Simon Paul on October 01, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
indefensible this
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
We've kept a better shape without Rooney but too many just no fuckin good.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:02:39 PM
Davies and Kenny on for me. Fuck Martina and Gana off.

Kenny isn't even on the bench I don't think.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
45 minutes to save his job.

Dreamland. He'll be in the job for ages yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:03:09 PM
No support on the wings.

Sure we look better but we still lack width and support for the fullbacks going forward.

Outrageous not to have brought in a natural wide player or at least play the ones we have to bring some balance.

We still look better but not like we can break them down.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:03:22 PM
Started well and rapidly decended into shit. What a mess we have no one we can depend on. What does that tell you? Something is rotten at the core. These are not bad players.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:03:29 PM
Think Kenny is becoming a bit of a myth. The truth is probably that weve only got 1 remotely decent right back and hes injured. Kenny played midweek and he was equally shite
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 01, 2017, 09:03:35 PM
Baines is a shithouse isnt he :(
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:04:26 PM
What on earth am I watching here, absolutely terrible game of football. Everton are all over the shop and don't even look interested. Sleepwalking.

been saying that for weeks, all comes down to Koeman.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
Confidence is rock bottom here. Nothing coming off. Easy passes taken. No-one big enough to take a player on. If he can't lift these lads then I'm afraid you have to get someone else in who can.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: john e on October 01, 2017, 09:04:36 PM
Williams again, not just him, the whole back line! We are shite and so easy to play against. Crystal Palace must be rubbing there hands for when they place us lol
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: MexicanToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:05:06 PM
This is reminding me of the dark days under Gordon Lee. Football played at the pace of a funeral procession.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:05:22 PM
Baines is a shithouse isnt he :(
Nothing in front of him.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Davies and Kenny on for me. Fuck Martina and Gana off.

Kenny isn't in the squad I don't think.

And I would rather sacrifice Schneiderlin for Davies.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
Baines is a shithouse isnt he :(

TBH he is a bit yes. Rarely puts his body on the line and pretty cowardly on the ball. Always goes back if he's under any pressure at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
Think Kenny is becoming a bit of a myth. The truth is probably that weve only got 1 remotely decent right back and hes injured. Kenny played midweek and he was equally shite

Disagree. Kenny at least has an idea of where to stand without the ball.

Martina is the worst defensive right back in the entire league and he's not going to get any better.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time
- We had no width
- We weren't starting Niasse
- We needed to drop Rooney

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Dunno what I would change.

We have been better but still not good enough.

Vlasic looks good on the ball but no willing runners.

Reckon we will still win this.

Thats about all I have to contribute as I tuck in to a lemon tart from M&S
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:06:13 PM
I don't think he played much above 6 out of 10 but Niasse was probably our best player.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:06:38 PM
Schneiderlin just got his asshole ripped open by NBCSN for the goal.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bluestevie on October 01, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
Davies and Kenny on for me. Fuck Martina and Gana off.

Kenny isn't even in the squad mate, I'd bin Williams off for Holgate if we are to make any defensive changes
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Kenny isn't even in the squad mate, I'd bin Williams off for Holgate if we are to make any defensive changes

Yeah 7 people have informed me now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: mikey_blue on October 01, 2017, 09:07:47 PM
Any streams for the second half? Unfortunately my Mrs has finished shopping, and now I have to watch Everton instead :(
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
Burnley are head and shoulders ahead of us. They are completely outplaying us. All that money spent and we might not have a single player good enough for any of the teams above us. Weve snapped up a whole load of bang average players for crazy prices.
Absolute proof if anymore needed Koeman has us in reverse, and that's taking into account losing Rom, we have deteriorated in every department apart from keeper since this fixture last season....ITS FUCKIN SHITE
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 09:07:52 PM
Williams looks finished, Baines not far behind and Martina is bang average at best.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:07:59 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time
- We had no width
- We weren't starting Niasse
- We needed to drop Rooney

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?

The sad thing is, this is the most threatening, balanced, and cohesive we've looked in attack all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time
- We had no width
- We weren't starting Niasse
- We needed to drop Rooney

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?
We still have no width.

I personally don't see how dropping Rooney makes us better as he's our best player.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: wepull on October 01, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
Gana is an absolute liability in the attacking third. Get him off for Davies.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time
- We had no width
- We weren't starting Niasse
- We needed to drop Rooney

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?

Well in fairness, we started well and created a few good chances. Two on a plate for Sigurdsson really.

That's what it's like though when you're playing with zero confidence, concede and the air goes out the balloon so quickly.

That said, clearly the defence is still a glaring issue. As little confidence as we have up top, multiply that by ten at the back. There are no players seemingly we can bring in to fix that though as I presume Jagielka is injured still and Coleman yet to deemed fit.

Oh and we still don't have much width, everyone is coming inside.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 01, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
Williams just got some blame lads, being on the keepers toes for the goal
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
Seemed better at first but we have a better set up aside William a Martina again ... but lacking any width at all yet again .
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: griff969 on October 01, 2017, 09:08:51 PM
The management, the recruitment staff and the board must have realised that selling Lukaku was going to expose the who squad. How can we not have addressed getting a goal threat?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time
- We had no width
- We weren't starting Niasse
- We needed to drop Rooney

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?
No the problem Is We have sold our best  assests and replaced them with overpriced disjointed shit....koeman out
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: D3blue on October 01, 2017, 09:09:21 PM
Schneiderlin has been poor.  Doesnt seem to be able to make a forward pass..
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bogie on October 01, 2017, 09:09:55 PM
this manger has no clue picking a team every week that needs min 4 subs to go anywhere

I would drop Ashley Williams and sell in in jan for £5.99 how the hell is he on today and that clown at right back tell Koeman to take him with him when he goes
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Redartin on October 01, 2017, 09:10:00 PM
Dreamland. He'll be in the job for ages yet.

Unfortunately this is probably true. But irrespective of the result in this match fuck him out now because this shit is just going to go on and on till he does go.
We fucked about too long with Martinez and we are going to do it again.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:10:11 PM
We're just shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:10:12 PM
OK, I know what I'd do.

Martina off for Davies.

Williams off for Holgate.

Schniederlin off for Klaassen.

Gets our best 11 on the pitch, worst offenders off.  Piss-poor starting decisions makes us waste all 3 subs early, but these are desperate times.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 09:10:25 PM
Schneiderlin just got his asshole ripped open by NBCSN for the goal.  Yikes.

Ditto by Jaimie Carragher on Sky.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:10:39 PM
Aside from Williams who is sadly past it Schneiderlin is the one I have the biggest problem with. Turned into a nothing player.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:10:50 PM
Schneiderlin has been poor.  Doesnt seem to be able to make a forward pass..
Been saying it for weeks bang average player
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
fuck it

another cheeky tenner going on us to win , 7/2 absolute shithouse odds though

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:13:37 PM
I'm confused. According to everyone on here, the reason we were doing badly this season was because:

- We were playing more than 1 number 10 at the same time nope, Siggy should play instead of Schneiderlin, we have no one in midfield who can break through or pass
- We had no width still have no width, we have 2 number tens playing as right/left wingers
- We weren't starting Niasse cant blame the strikers when we have 2 shit house defenders who dont know how to defend
- We needed to drop Rooney or we'd have 6 players in the middle of the pitch

So all those problems have been fixed, and we're still losing and creating hardly any clear cut chances.

What gives?
its Koemans tactics.  or lack of.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
12th Most expensive squad in the world
Williams, Martina, Schneiderlin, Baines & Calvert Lewin in the starting 11 - LOL. Fucking garbage
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
Dyche's half time team talk, just give the ball to Ashley Williams
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:13:53 PM
fuck it

another cheeky tenner going on us to win , 7/2 absolute shithouse odds though
Don't waste the tenner at those odds
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:13:54 PM
We started OK but since the goal all confidence has drained and now Burnley have got our number. They know we aren't brave enough to try and beat their press so they're keeping us in harmless areas.

We can complain about the tactics all we like but the players need to grow some fucking mangos. Morgan and Baines in particular.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:14:19 PM
Don't waste the tenner at those odds

ya might wait till the 70th minute like
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:14:31 PM
fuck it

another cheeky tenner going on us to win , 7/2 absolute shithouse odds though



Definitely would have blown that on four cans of Guinness and some chippy later.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dazfrancis on October 01, 2017, 09:15:08 PM
Dunno why he can't just play the most in form players or drop the ones playing the shittest. Proper dogmatic from Koeman

If you were to pick on form Williams, Schneiderlin and Martina wouldn't be playing.

I know the argument against would the players coming in are Holgate, Davies and Kenny but the argument should be if you're playing too shit, you're shit enough to be dropped.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
A great old quote from baseball player Mookie Wilson that Ronald can use to motivate the lads "When I'm in a slump I comfort myself by saying if I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, they must believe in me. And if they believe in me, then I believe in me. Then I bust out."
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: chang on October 01, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
I think I have managed to watch just about every minute of our games from first preseason match to now ...that's a lot of misery.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:15:38 PM
Aside from Williams who is sadly past it Schneiderlin is the one I have the biggest problem with. Turned into a nothing player.

He looked good last season, what has happened? Maybe he has always been overrated. Offers nothing creatively and we already have/had the second best spoiler in the PL in Gueye.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:15:48 PM
Definitely would have blown that on four cans of Guinness and some chippy later.

i've had 4 cans of guinness already, slightly numbs watching this shite
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:15:53 PM
Changes announced yet?

Get Schneid off!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:16:58 PM
A great old quote from baseball player Mookie Wilson that Ronald can use to motivate the lads "When I'm in a slump I comfort myself by saying if I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, they must believe in me. And if they believe in me, then I believe in me. Then I bust out."

that wilson can fuck off, we'd lose every game 3 nil if we believed in that
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:17:11 PM
I don't know what forward passes we're expecting the midfielders to make. There's no short option (except Vlasic occasionally) and Burnley have worked out how to deal with the long balls.

We have no attacking plan and it's even starting to affect our defense.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
Does Koeman have a (of legal age) daughter?  If so, Holgate must have fucked her.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:18:15 PM
I'd go with this 2nd half at some point..


                       Pickford
         Davies Holgate Keane Baines
             Klaassen Gana Sigurdsson
                 Vlasic DCL Niasse
 
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Schneiderlin to Baines just kills any tempo we have, so frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: mikey_blue on October 01, 2017, 09:21:05 PM
Any decent streams lids?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:21:13 PM
I don't know what forward passes we're expecting the midfielders to make. There's no short option (except Vlasic occasionally) and Burnley have worked out how to deal with the long balls.

We have no attacking plan and it's killing our defense (in addition to our attack).
Problem with two strikers who both prefer to play on the shoulder is they don't come short.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:21:14 PM
http://www.navixsport.com/sport.php?id=3068&page=nxslkxslklllslkyx
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:21:54 PM
I think Baines is quite dreadful these days.

It's like he's playing with an injury and something tragic on his mind.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:21:59 PM
Gana's been abysmal on the ball here.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:22:03 PM
Keane is dogshit, hoof merchant
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
knew Koeman wouldnt change from 4231, still no fucking wingers. Vlasic and Siggy keep changing and swapping round, when Burnley attack they're not in the correct positions to track the full backs. due to playing as a 3 and not on the wings.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
Lol on your weaker foot, 35 yards from goal, no evidence of ever scoring from range - sure Gueye, have a fucking go lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Keane is dogshit, hoof merchant

So many other players to slate before you get to him
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:23:43 PM
Baines is now a liabilty.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
Get the kids on, Davies for Schneiderlin is a must.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:23:57 PM
It's like watching an over 50s outfit or an under 10s
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:24:07 PM
Fucking hell Williams.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:24:17 PM
Schneid off now FFS.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 09:24:22 PM
I hate Ashley williams
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:24:25 PM
I just get a feeling some of these aren't really all that arsed.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:24:42 PM
Phil Neville reckons we're lacking in confidence and has decided to bring it up once every two minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:24:45 PM
Need to change something here. Just not happening for us now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:24:46 PM
Sig's been our best player for me. Not saying much like. 6/10 for him and less for everyone else.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:24:47 PM
Comedy.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:24:47 PM
Gana's been abysmal on the ball here.

Yeah, he's been poor going forward today.

At least he's won the ball back fairly regularly, though, and attempted some forward passes, unlike Schneiderlin.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hannu on October 01, 2017, 09:24:49 PM
any streams ive only just walked in
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:24:55 PM
Phil Neville reckons we're lacking in confidence and has decided to bring it up once every two minutes.

SQUARK!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 09:25:00 PM
Schneiderlin and Williams are enfuriating
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
No precision or courage
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Fynci on October 01, 2017, 09:25:51 PM
Heads have gone. We're limping towards January, and if we don't bring in 2-3 quality players then we're in big big trouble.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:26:36 PM
Sweet Jesus titty-fuck that was awful
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:26:45 PM
Baines and Scheiderlin, PASS FOOORWAAARRRD, FFS!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
Burnley are playing with confidence. Thanks, Phil.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:27:09 PM
Slow, negative and above all, shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
Yeah, he's been poor going forward today.

At least he's won the ball back fairly regularly, though, and attempted some forward passes, unlike Schneiderlin.

Schneiderlin is absolutely awful! Never Involved, never wins a tackle. We are playing w 10 men
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
We've stopped playin well now... need to make a change
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:27:24 PM
Yeah it's the fans' fault you fucking cunt on commentary. No one expected top 4. Hope you fall out of the gantry.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
Every pass is overthough and safe.

Nothing instincitve.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: D3blue on October 01, 2017, 09:27:32 PM
We could break into the bottom four
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:27:38 PM
any streams ive only just walked in


http://www.genti.stream/everton-live-stream.php Dont do it to yourself
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
The Goodison grumble is in full effect. Downward spiral this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
Imagine if we had players who could pass the ball like Burnely.. Shameful this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:27:54 PM
Hey! least we had a shot now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 09:27:59 PM
Get Davies on
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
Can't believe we let Barry go when this is what we get.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:29:16 PM
Been watching Schneiderlin all this half and he's now doing a McCarthy. He's starting to hide behind a player so he doesn't get the ball. Total shithouse.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
Imagine if we had players who could pass the ball like Burnely.. Shameful this.

Klaassen fumes from the bench
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
Good god we are absolute tat.


Wish WBA had beaten us to Morgan and we'd kept Gareth Barry.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:29:49 PM
We are so shit, only upside is @KoemansNumberTens (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3905) almost certainly owes me 500 quid
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:30:12 PM
Wish Koeman would've renewed his contract at Soton.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ari on October 01, 2017, 09:30:16 PM
Baines is awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 01, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
Baines is completely finished as a quality player
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:30:30 PM
Vlasic should be playing down Baines side
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:30:31 PM
Typical laboured challenge from Baines.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:30:34 PM
Schneiderlin is a great player, nobody will shine under this ginger tits shadow.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:30:38 PM
Baines got the ball, did he not?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:31:06 PM
Got the fucking ball Neville you fucking dumb cunt, hope you fucking choke on the microphone.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hannu on October 01, 2017, 09:31:10 PM
Koeman out?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 09:31:12 PM
Can we get the player who scores all our goals and has more talent than this 11 put together on the pitch now please?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:31:34 PM
Good try from Pickford
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
Niasse has been as bad as everyone else.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 09:31:50 PM
Koeman's shite isn't he
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
I give Koeman to Xmas, still
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
Vlasic should be playing down Baines side
What the tactics that looked decent on Thursday. Too easy that.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
I give Koeman to Xmas, still

What positives could you possibly see that you'd give him two more months?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
Why hasn't he changed it yet
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:33:05 PM
Schneiderlin is a great player, nobody will shine under this ginger tits shadow.

No he's not
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Good attempted pass from Keane
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
No he's not

Who was that guy that played last season then?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
This is truly painful. How long do we plod on playing like this. koeman clearly has no fucking clue how to fix this shite
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Get Rooney and a winger on FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: wepull on October 01, 2017, 09:33:48 PM
Get Niasse off for Lookman. Get Davies on for Gueye.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:33:58 PM
Baines is a joke
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 09:34:05 PM
I give Koeman to Xmas, still

Why?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:34:20 PM
Who was that guy that played last season then?

He's shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 09:34:20 PM
Problem on the left is that it's Schneiderlin and Baines without a third player to make the right angles. You need three players to create the triangles to play the ball on the floor.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:34:26 PM
What positives could you possibly see that you'd give him two more months?

oh, I don't see positives, I just don't want to be rash.  General philosophy on changing managers.

Not like anything can be done to turn this into Europa champions or Top 6, is there?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:34:30 PM
60+ minutes until first sub is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Why hasn't he changed it yet

Think he's just realised he quite fancies picking up £500k a month to play golf the next 18 months actually. He's just gonna let things limp to it's natural conclusion.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Fynci on October 01, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
I'd bring three on now. Davies, Klaasen and Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:34:43 PM
Much better, Baines
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:34:52 PM
Do the decent thing Koeman You Cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:35:01 PM
OK if his first sub today is fucking Rooney you can fire him immediately
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 09:35:20 PM
People sneer that we could only attract a Dyche if we sacked Koeman. Hes a million miles ahead of what we are being "treated" to
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:35:20 PM
Thank fuck he's off
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
Why is Baines captain. He doesn't say anything or ever appear to encourage the team. Not blaming him for this but never captain material.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:35:43 PM
Good sub, 63 mins too late though
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:35:47 PM
Think he's just realised he quite fancies picking up £500k a month to play golf the next 18 months actually. He's just gonna let things limp to it's natural conclusion.
We need to murder the Cunt then
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
Rooney will score I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
OK if his first sub today is fucking Rooney you can fire him immediately

Rooney will score
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:36:36 PM
That's what £45m gets you, folks (cheap shot, I know, I am a shithouse)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:36:51 PM
Bit worried about Sig.. I don't know what he offers.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
Sig is having a dreadful day. He looks like a League Two player right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: wepull on October 01, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
Niasse has been just poor this half.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:38:15 PM
Pickford can pick a pass better than most of our 73 central midfielders, worryingly.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
We're awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:38:29 PM
problem is, now we have Sig/Rooney clutter back on the pitch, still no passers.  Rooney for Schneiderlin doesn't fix the problems, just adds back one of what we had fixed.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
I'd do it if you lot send me Roll ups in...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
Pickford can pick a pass better than most of our 73 central midfielders, worryingly.

Stek for Gana??
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
sick at looking at those sleeve tattoos too, they can all fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:39:47 PM
Relegation battle anyone?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:40:04 PM
Look at all of that space between the midfield and our attacking players every time we're on the ball.

That's why no good forward passing is happening.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 01, 2017, 09:40:17 PM
Streams gone ffs....any out there??
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ridge on October 01, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why Davies hasn't been introduced
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:40:45 PM
Still no left side link up for Baines.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
Baines' free pass on criticism is up now I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
Streams gone

oh no 


:Lennon:
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 09:40:57 PM
Like to see Lookman on for Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:41:11 PM
Yay, take off one of our few bright sparks.

Glad Davies is on, though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 09:41:15 PM
Vlasic did ok. Provided some width
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:41:19 PM
Yeah take a wide option off for a central player. Good thinking Ronald.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2017, 09:41:20 PM
Look at all of that space between the midfield and our attacking players every time we're on the ball.

That's why no good forward passing is happening.

Every time a forward controls the ball, lays it off to a midfielder, they turn around and run away from the scene.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
Remember when we had players bombing forward with pace?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:41:26 PM
Streams gone ffs....any out there??

http://livestreaming24.net/watch/Everton-Burnley
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:41:34 PM
10/1 us now, best o luck to that tenner
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:41:35 PM
Still no Klaassen, the sub we most need to introduce
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Gash on October 01, 2017, 09:41:39 PM
We need to murder the Cunt then

Turn it in.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:41:59 PM
Will the stadium still get built if we're in the championship?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
Streams gone ffs....any out there??

You're better off, Lizz
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
Still no Klaassen, the sub we most need to introduce

We already have too many players who disappear, you want more?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 09:42:31 PM
Little bit of width that vlasic off for yet another midfielder

Played Koeman lad
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2017, 09:42:33 PM
Think he might go after this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:42:52 PM
Think he might go after this.

Hope so.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 09:43:16 PM
This is so poor.
No fight and not even troubling their keeper, when it should be a half where we are throwing the kitchen sink and him.
Not one to knee jerk but it's not long until Koeman is seriously under threat
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 01, 2017, 09:43:32 PM
Oh dear, doesn't look good

I reckon if we lose this and fail to beat Brighton Koeman will get sacked
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Baines' free pass on criticism is up now I'm afraid.
Agreed. It's a crying shame but he looks shot
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: keverton1971 on October 01, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
http://www.genti.stream/everton-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:44:09 PM
we can dream
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:44:10 PM
We already have too many players who disappear, you want more?

He can play a pass forward, that's our only hope.  We haven't sniffed the attacking area since like the 25th minute.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
Think he might go after this.

Hard to say because we don't really know how Moshiri reacts to stuff yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Major Clanger on October 01, 2017, 09:44:23 PM
Still no Klaassen, the sub we most need to introduce

You reckon we'd be better with 9 men?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:45:37 PM
He can play a pass forward, that's our only hope.  We haven't sniffed the attacking area since like the 25th minute.

Don't be soft, he's got no chance of turning any games around.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
Really needed to take one of those early chances to help them settle and get confidence.

Conceding was a disaster.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:45:46 PM
Good work by Davies
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:45:57 PM
Pope handling those crosses well isn't a great surprise  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 09:46:02 PM
Something must have happened between Koeman and the squad. This definitely resembles the death throws of a regime. No one is arsed.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:46:34 PM
Davies actually running at somebody.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Something must have happened between Koeman and the squad. This definitely resembles the death throws of a regime. No one is arsed.

We can but hope.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
Sacking Koeman just makes him much richer... I wish I had his t&c's... it's win win for him. Who'd come here though (who's any good)?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:47:09 PM
Even Williams' header back into the box was incompetent.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: wepull on October 01, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
I am guessing the next sub should be Baines off for Klassen because I think we lack bodies in the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:47:25 PM
I'm aware Klaassen hasn't been good, but he has a particular skill set that we should try to utilize here to break Burnley down.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:49:14 PM
We don't even look like scoring.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 09:49:17 PM
I think Phil Neville might have recently learned the word 'actually'
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 09:49:21 PM
Worrying thing for me is Burnley could quite easily get a second here if they wanted to
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:49:22 PM
Will the stadium still get built if we're in the championship?
Will be lower than that if we keep this twat.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
I'm aware Klaassen hasn't been good, but he has a particular skill set that we should try to utilize here to break Burnley down.

Why can he play wide right or left?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
Sigurdsson is gash isn't he
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
Come on Sigurdsson, create a goal
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Sacking Koeman just makes him much richer... I wish I had his t&c's... it's win win for him. Who'd come here though (who's any good)?

Got to be Big Sam, he likes a relegation scrap.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:50:39 PM
Niasse and DCL are fucked
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sirblue57 on October 01, 2017, 09:50:51 PM
Would bring.moyes back than have koeman. We.look clueless and embarasseingly inept.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sirblue57 on October 01, 2017, 09:51:10 PM
Got to be Big Sam, he likes a relegation scrap.
Fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:51:25 PM
Sigurdsson did better there, to be fair
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:51:32 PM
Why can he play wide right or left?

Introducing Rooney (leaving Sig on), then taking off Vlasic let me know that was off the table.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 09:51:34 PM
Sigurdsson is gash isn't he

He's got a £45million weight on his shoulders, he'll come good in the end
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:51:42 PM
Hope we start playing Rooney as a CM instead of Schneiderlin.. he;s got the energy and vision and can pass forwards.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:52:06 PM
Desperate for a draw against Burnley at home. Fuck me.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:52:10 PM
He's got a £45million weight on his shoulders, he'll come good in the end

We hope.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:52:30 PM
We've got loads of good players lads. Even with the imbalance plenty of managers would love a squad with this quality and with our young players.

It's the manager that's the glaring problem.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
We've got loads of good players lads. Even with the imbalance plenty of managers would love a squad with this quality and with our young players.

It's the manager that's the glaring problem.

Basically what NBC just said.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 09:53:25 PM
Wow, watching on TV it is REALLY quiet there! You can hear when one fan way off yells.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:53:27 PM
Last 10 mins and not even any urgency. Grim.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
Just stackin the box. Gonna be tough this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:53:36 PM
Hope we start playing Rooney as a CM instead of Schneiderlin.. he;s got the energy and vision and can pass forwards.

I'd be up for this.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 01, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
Gueye really needs to stop shooting
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 09:53:55 PM
come on Sandro lid
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:54:05 PM
Sandro will hit a hat-trick
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
Wish Rooney would fuck off with those shots.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
At least today has enabled us to get some perspective into the Niasse debate. He's a limited footballer best utilised from the bench and not the saviour a few hoped he'd be.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Chrisknms on October 01, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
desperate stuff, painful to watch
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 09:55:23 PM
Ramma.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 09:55:27 PM
One of these 30 yarders is definitely going to fly in. Keep at it, lads.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
He's got a £45million weight on his shoulders, he'll come good in the end
your fuckin dreaming, he was never 45m worth ever, he's set up for life with his cut so fair fucks to him.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
we've got nothing. We could play for a week and not trouble their keeper.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:56:49 PM
At least today has enabled us to get some perspective into the Niasse debate. He's a limited footballer best utilised from the bench and not the saviour a few hoped he'd be.


I don't know, if we didn't have a crab (Schneid) and a blind man (Gana's poor forward passing) in the centre of midfield, we may have put some through balls in for him to run onto.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
nice from Davies
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Heisenberg on October 01, 2017, 09:57:34 PM
We are shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Why don't we ever play with intensity early on?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 01, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
TBF Burnley have defended really fucking well
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 09:58:11 PM
Why don't we ever play with intensity early on?

We did today, til the goal went in.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 09:58:41 PM
That was better from Baines and Sigurdsson
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sirblue57 on October 01, 2017, 09:58:57 PM
Got to be Big Sam, he likes a relegation scrap.
Fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 09:58:59 PM
We are shit

This
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
Ref is a twat... given us nothing.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 09:59:26 PM
Sigurdsson has been decent today.

DCL finishing again, kinda poo.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: dchans on October 01, 2017, 09:59:33 PM
Great touch Sig
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 09:59:36 PM
Koemans desperation showing, going mad at that handball..

was no where near a handball.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 09:59:40 PM
Absolute shit, glad I put Burnley on my acca - 5/1 aswell
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2017, 09:59:47 PM
Hard to say because we don't really know how Moshiri reacts to stuff yet.

True, got a feeling myself though.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:00:00 PM
16th after this? lol
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:00:49 PM
We can't be put through anymore of this shite, time for the Mosh to save us and his investment, sack the cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 10:01:16 PM
Bad this

I'm done with Koeman
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:01:19 PM
16th after this? lol

feels flattering atm
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
Right, who's gonna be Adrian Heath?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:01:42 PM
For a team that wants champions league, you'd think they'd get rid of the manager who hasn't got a bobby whats going on.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:01:51 PM
True, got a feeling myself though.

Really hope so. Better to cut our losses and rip the plaster off quickly, to mix metaphors.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: griff969 on October 01, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
We play so slow and in front of their defenders. Just everything they could ask for really.

What do we actually do in training I wonder.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: kramer0 on October 01, 2017, 10:02:08 PM
James Tarkowski and Ben Mee thank us for the extra heading practice.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
Burnley at home lads, Burnley
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
For a team that wants champions league, you'd think they'd get rid of the manager who hasn't got a bobby whats going on.

Bobby?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:02:36 PM
0-2 and he's gone
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 10:02:50 PM
International break?

Oh fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:03:03 PM
Bobby?

Yes, it was a great little pun.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:03:27 PM
Sandro needs to do better
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: stirlingblue on October 01, 2017, 10:03:29 PM
International break?

Oh fuck off.

Get rid of him now and give whoever we bring in a few weeks before their first game
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
Yes, it was a great little pun.

Explain
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
Jesus. Imagine this lot at Anfield. I hadn't even thought of that looming catastrophe.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:03:52 PM
Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 10:03:52 PM
taking off the player(Niasse) who was getting in behind the defense, for someone who doesnt even want to get anywhere near the box (Sandro)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
100th League win for Dyche, congrats
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lazarou on October 01, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
Needs dealing with now or the season is gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:04:46 PM
I am not sure, even with Lukaku, if we would be very good right now. We just can't seem to create chances. Lukaku converts chances but does not create them.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 01, 2017, 10:04:54 PM
Get Involved
#bbcfootball
Charles Meyrick: Don't know if it's any consolation to Everton fans, but I've been making a carbonara during this match & it's turned out great

lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 10:04:59 PM
Koeman out
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:05:05 PM
taking off the player(Niasse) who was getting in behind the defense, for someone who doesnt even want to get anywhere near the box (Sandro)

They're both proper shit mate tbh doesn't really matter
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:05:06 PM
Martina is poor
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:05:31 PM
 lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
On performances we could have quite easily lost every league game this season. Weve probably deserved 1 point against Stoke. Weve been outplayed every other game
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 10:05:41 PM
garbage
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
Poor header by Williams straight at the keeper as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
there ought be boos now
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
DeBoer is available. lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: karling1972 on October 01, 2017, 10:06:32 PM
I think the board will put an end to this poor moral  at the club..  .
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 10:06:47 PM
Williams is rubbish
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
Give me Eddie Howe or some shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:06:52 PM
embarrassing from all concerned
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:07:00 PM
This is now getting to be as bad as under Martinez. Not quite there yet but not far off.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
Go ed shithouse. Run down the tunnel, like the big man you think you are.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Brownie20 on October 01, 2017, 10:07:06 PM
Fuck off you bunch of useless fucking cunts!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:07:08 PM
there ought be boos now

And there they are.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: cantoffee on October 01, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
Fucking pathetic.

Can't see the point in him staying now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: D3blue on October 01, 2017, 10:07:19 PM
Please can RK go...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:07:19 PM
Proper bailed Koeman then lol.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 10:07:28 PM
Optimum time for his P45 now with this international break
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Zoolander on October 01, 2017, 10:07:30 PM
That's 90 minutes minutes of my life I won't get back
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:07:59 PM
GO NOW CUNT
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
Made Burnley look like Barca at times and some on here still wanna keep Koeman .hahahahaha😅.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:08:10 PM
We play so slow and in front of their defenders. Just everything they could ask for really.

What do we actually do in training I wonder.

play golf
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:08:13 PM
Please can RK go...

Mans not hot
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 10:08:34 PM
Well done Burnley.

Fuck off Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 10:08:34 PM
Pre moyes era performance. So bad
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: blueToffee on October 01, 2017, 10:08:40 PM
Horrible way to go into a 2 week break.

No positives.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
changed my mind, sack the fucker now
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Goaljira on October 01, 2017, 10:08:49 PM
Worse than under Martinez.  Take the opportunity of the extended break and bin him off tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:09:03 PM
This is now getting to be as bad as under Martinez. Not quite there yet but not far off.

Martinez never got to spend $145M in one window.

He was not a good manager for us, but he WAS very good at getting in talent for modest sums of money. He had a very sharp eye for young talent.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: john e on October 01, 2017, 10:09:15 PM
BOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:09:17 PM
Can sandro please never play for us again?

AM dodged one hell of a bullet there. Is he actually a footballer?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:09:28 PM
we have some right shithouse players
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 10:09:30 PM
Ancellotti is available. Get him in quick!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 01, 2017, 10:09:32 PM
First time in a long time I've looked forward to international break.

Will be relieved to get some respite that turbo dogshit we've been serving up.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: karling1972 on October 01, 2017, 10:09:43 PM
Big Sam  and Big Dunc anyone ?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:09:59 PM
Yay, now the RS are on, and my RS uncle and cousin are here
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
Poor signings. Poor recruitment.

Just poor all round.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
Martinez never got to spend $145M in one window.

He was not a good manager for us, but he WAS very good at getting in talent for modest sums of money. He had a very sharp eye for young talent.

No he didn't. At all. I don't know where you've got this from. Revisionist stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: griff969 on October 01, 2017, 10:10:15 PM
play golf

Probably badly too
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:10:16 PM
It was easy for Burnley so what's to come if this manager stays?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
I want to kill myself enough without the Fat Sam shouts, thanks.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:10:57 PM
Got to be Big Sam, he likes a relegation scrap.

Ross Barkley likes this
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
Not sure what to do either.

Jan maybe too late.

We are actually quite fucked aren't we?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Goaljira on October 01, 2017, 10:11:45 PM
Yay, now the RS are on, and my RS uncle and cousin are here

Go hang off the sky dish till it falls off the wall.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:11:56 PM
To be fair we had some good chances today just can't finish.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bluestevie on October 01, 2017, 10:12:14 PM
42 years Burnley hadn't won at GP for before today, fully deserved to break that hoodoo. I'm begging someone at the club to put a bullet in Koeman's reign right fucking now!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:12:24 PM
Get a new manager in, maybe keep Ross.  Ask him who he wants.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: wepull on October 01, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Felt like murdering Neville today, that fucking dour cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
Shame, because we looked much better until they scored.

If he sacrifices DCL, Niasse, and Vlasic in the next game he can fuck off; at least they tried and had a bit of energy about them.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:12:37 PM
Can sandro please never play for us again?

AM dodged one hell of a bullet there. Is he actually a footballer?

They probably didn't ever want him, it was probably just a ploy to get the bellends to take him
He's incredibly shit
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:13:16 PM
Niasse is badly shit in all reality
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
Go hang off the sky dish till it falls off the wall.

Great idea, and maybe I'll be hospitalised into the bargain 👍🏼
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:14:18 PM
First time in a long time I've looked forward to international break.

Will be relieved to get some respite that turbo dogshit we've been serving up.

Would you fire him?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:14:58 PM
Kenwright will give Koeman a hug in the lounge, tell him to hang in there, that he's a great bloke, we're right behind him.

Just hope Moshiri is fuming after necking a bottle of red watching this at home and rings Koeman's mobile while it's happening.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 10:15:41 PM
Martinez never got to spend $145M in one window.

He was not a good manager for us, but he WAS very good at getting in talent for modest sums of money. He had a very sharp eye for young talent.

Cleverly
Kobe
Robles
Samurai
Lennon
Lukaku  (a given)
Niasse (from a DVD)

Ruined Barkley.

Seville has a better eye for young talent.

Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:16:18 PM
Shame, because we looked much better until they scored.

If he sacrifices DCL, Niasse, and Vlasic in the next game he can fuck off; at least they tried and had a bit of energy about them.

He went RIGHT BACK to his comfort zone.  Rooney and Sigurdsson, no width.  Did nothing about the lack of creativity in the middle, nor the shocking, steaming pile of poo that is Ashley Williams.

THAT is the problem.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: chang on October 01, 2017, 10:16:23 PM
The board of a big club would now react - what we played 13 / 15 games in all competitions and other than 45 minutes at home in a qualifier have shown absolutely not one "spark" not got the fans off their seats.

Time for the owners to take one on the chin and put an end to the dross being served up.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:16:26 PM
Cleverly
Kobe
Robles
Samurai
Lennon
Lukaku  (a given)
Niasse (from a DVD)

Ruined Barkley.

Seville has a better eye for young talent.

What?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:17:18 PM
Cleverly
Kobe
Robles
Samurai
Lennon
Lukaku  (a given)
Niasse (from a DVD)

Ruined Barkley.

Seville has a better eye for young talent.

You could be right.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 10:17:55 PM
Message to phone:

NOT  FUCKIN NOW YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!

DELOFEU NOT SAMURAI!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
We paid Martinez 10 million to fuck off, we paid Southampton 5 million for Koeman, now we will pay Koeman 10 million to fuck off , what a shambles !
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
Officially crisis mode for me now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:19:22 PM
They have right fucked me this week have Everton. Cost me over 3 grand on Thursday. I live in Burnley so ive got to put up with smug workmates tomorrow and 3 fucking hours of my time being bored to death.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Message to phone:

NOT  FUCKIN NOW YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!

DELOFEU NOT SAMURAI!!!!!!!

It's Deulofeu.






 :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
They have right fucked me this week have Everton. Cost me over 3 grand on Thursday. I live in Burnley so ive got to put up with smug workmates tomorrow and 3 fucking hours of my time being bored to death.

Koemans right teste
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 10:22:26 PM
They have right fucked me this week have Everton. Cost me over 3 grand on Thursday. I live in Burnley so ive got to put up with smug workmates tomorrow and 3 fucking hours of my time being bored to death.

Fuck me, 3 grand ! You can buy a house for that in Burnley can't you ?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:23:00 PM
It's Deulofeu.






 :snigger:

how quickly we lose our spelling discipline!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 10:23:09 PM
For 20 mins we looked quite good. They scored and the whole atmosphere changed. The players all went back into there shells and back to square one they went. Total clueless shite. Niasse and Vlasic faded badly, why the fuck was Gana shooting from where he was. If Siggurdson had scored the two chances he had early doors it would had been so different.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
Fuck me, 3 grand ! You can buy a house for that in Burnley can't you ?

Haha 2. Or none when you concede a last minute goal to a cypriate team with 10 men
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:23:21 PM
I hate Koeman but draw the line at Martinez shouts lol they are 2 horns on the same fuckin goat?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
Cleverly
Kobe
Robles
Samurai
Lennon
Lukaku  (a given)
Niasse (from a DVD)

Ruined Barkley.

Seville has a better eye for young talent.

If that means what I think it means you should know better than joking about stuff like that, especially at your age, grow up
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Buck76 on October 01, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
Kenwright will give Koeman a hug in the lounge, tell him to hang in there, that he's a great bloke, we're right behind him.

Just hope Moshiri is fuming after necking a bottle of red watching this at home and rings Koeman's mobile while it's happening.

I hope Moshies is with his Russian mate securing another manager
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:25:35 PM
They have right fucked me this week have Everton. Cost me over 3 grand on Thursday. I live in Burnley so ive got to put up with smug workmates tomorrow and 3 fucking hours of my time being bored to death.

is that you Paul Merson?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:26:22 PM
I hope Moshies is with his Russian mate securing another manager

he can fuck off too the phone in cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Silas on October 01, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
When the manager makes the changes many wanted and we still play poorly and don't get a result you have to start worrying that it isn't going to work for him here. Even when it looks like he's getting it right it's turning out wrong
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TSGun on October 01, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
These are really confusing times and not really sure what to think.

There's a growing sense of desperation surrounding the club that doesn't bode well for those deemed accountable.

Is he on borrowed time? Might just be.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:31:39 PM
When the manager makes the changes many wanted and we still play poorly and don't get a result you have to start worrying that it isn't going to work for him here. Even when it looks like he's getting it right it's turning out wrong

I think we are now currently fucked. Im not convinced we can actually field a balanced 11 unless we fill an awful lot of positions with young players.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:34:37 PM
Blimey, Barkley and Lukaku papered over a ton of cracks last year, didn't they 
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 01, 2017, 10:35:29 PM
I think we are now currently fucked. Im not convinced we can actually field a balanced 11 unless we fill an awful lot of positions with young players.

why not go as young as possible at this point?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:37:01 PM
We paid Martinez 10 million to fuck off, we paid Southampton 5 million for Koeman, now we will pay Koeman 10 million to fuck off , what a shambles !

This is about the strength of it. We're still a small club playing at being a big boy. Making costly errors in appointments and contract terms.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Confucius on October 01, 2017, 10:37:35 PM
Everybody including me thought Barkley is thick... seems like he is the only one who knew what was coming. Koeman has to go. Really has to go. ASAP! Use some of that $60m line of credit to pay him off. There are good managers out there without a job currently. Get one of them.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 10:37:41 PM
At least go with youth in the home games. The crowd will get behind them and help the get rid of the negative atmosphere.

And/or get Unsworth in.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
If that means what I think it means you should know better than joking about stuff like that, especially at your age, grow up

It does and no.. so fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:38:37 PM
I hope Moshies is with his Russian mate securing another manager
Or a fuckin hitman
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:39:42 PM
It does and no.. so fuck off

I hope nothing like that ever affects any of your family you pathetic man
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:40:20 PM
why not go as young as possible at this point?

Probably nowt to lose. The problem is if we start with Davies, Lookman, DCL and Kenny and they have an off day we are gonna get thumped. All have played well at times but all have been dreadful at others.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
The really really worrying thing is even if he brings in a striker like Geroud in January that won't make one iota of difference, I doubt even that if we had held on to Lukaku we would be doing any better with this set up and the players he has brought in.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
This is about the strength of it. We're still a small club playing at being a big boy. Making costly errors in appointments and contract terms.

Never wanted him here. Struck me as a safe appointment. A decent manager without the imagination to be great. Turns out I overhyped him


Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:42:57 PM
If we don't at least put a call in to Tuchel and maybe even Ancelotti (I know I know) then we're negligent in the extreme. There's nothing left to give under Koeman, whatever he tries isn't coming off. If Moshiri is a football man he'd spot this a mile off and instruct an agent to get on it.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
I hope nothing like that ever affects any of your family you pathetic man

Calm down, mate, he wasn't advocating Saville's behaviour.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 01, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
The really really worrying thing is even if he brings in a striker like Geroud in January that won't make one iota of difference, I doubt even that if we had held on to Lukaku we would be doing any better with this set up and the players he has brought in.

Think a paceless targetman (alone) would make thinks worse. We need 2 pacy wingers, we need some drive in midfield, we need 2 more full backs. Cant believe someone thought paceless recruitment was wise
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:44:30 PM
Everybody including me thought Barkley is thick... seems like he is the only one who knew what was coming. Koeman has to go. Really has to go. ASAP! Use some of that $60m line of credit to pay him off. There are good managers out there without a job currently. Get one of them.
Sorry no everybody didn't, some stuck by him and have always thought Koeman the problem..
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:45:04 PM
12th most expensive squad in the world, 7 games into the season and we're at the "throw the kids in" stage - what a fucking mess man
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 10:45:05 PM
Looks like a positive change in formation and personnel.

But guys, dont get wound up if we're not that great. Confidence is low and some players havent played together.

And remember Burnley are no mugs... they drew at Lpool & Spurs.

Think I had it sussed pre-game.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 01, 2017, 10:48:25 PM
Spent my weekend away on a family holiday break. Caught the second have on the radio on the way back. So glad I gave it a swerve. Knew it would be fucking grim. Get rid of this fucking cunt he is only going in one direction and that is to damage the club even further. If Moshiri and the club have any balls they will sack him tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:49:54 PM
we're a Titus Shambles really
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:51:19 PM
Zzzz
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 10:51:56 PM
This is about the strength of it. We're still a small club playing at being a big boy. Making costly errors in appointments and contract terms.

To be fair, no one on here has a clue what the termination clauses are in Koeman's contract. There could easily be a clause saying something like if you're in the bottom 5 after 10 games you can be fired with only £1m payable.

Obviously I'm making the numbers up but it's not a given that you fire a manager and then have to pay out the full remainder of their contract term.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11063343/koeman-understands-fans8217-frustration

He's starting to sound as desperate as the last Everton manager just before he got the sack.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Toddacelli on October 01, 2017, 10:54:12 PM
Officially crisis mode for me now.
Yes. This is rapidly becoming a crisis.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 10:54:50 PM
To be fair, no one on here has a clue what the termination clauses are in Koeman's contract. There could easily be a clause saying something like if you're in the bottom 5 after 10 games you can be fired with only £1m payable.

Obviously I'm making the numbers up but it's not a given that you fire a manager and then have to pay out the full remainder of their contract term.

We have form in doing exactly that and the fact we had to pay so much to get him I would be surprised if he came for a contract that had an escape route for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sixymack on October 01, 2017, 10:57:14 PM
Moyes is available!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 01, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
We have form in doing exactly that and the fact we had to pay so much to get him I would be surprised if he came for a contract that had an escape route for us.

I'd like to think with Moshiri, an accountant, in charge, we'd have a bit more nous in the negotiation department on this kind of thing than Kenwright had in the past.

But as I said, none of us know. It's all guesswork.

De Boer for example only received £2m payoff when he had a contract totalling £6m.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
Fuckin Burnley what more do we need to sack him? Let Big Dunc break the news.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ravardo on October 01, 2017, 10:58:56 PM
Yes. This is rapidly becoming a crisis.

We havent won in 23 away games and its now happerning at home weve been in a crisis since last season
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Robioto on October 01, 2017, 11:01:52 PM
Fuck Everton at the moment, at least my roast lamb was nice...
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 11:04:14 PM
Fuck Everton at the moment, at least my roast lamb was nice...

My missus has us on a meat-free week this week. I've got a Sunday roast with no roast. Great. Bottle of red it is then.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 11:04:18 PM
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11063343/koeman-understands-fans8217-frustration

He's starting to sound as desperate as the last Everton manager just before he got the sack.

When I read 'Sky Sports' and 'understands' I thought it would be that he was getting the bullet
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: pjk on October 01, 2017, 11:04:57 PM
I've got to say, "I thought Koeman was the man for the job". The way he adjusted Southampton's squad as his best players were sold from underneath him, was admirable. He's doing the opposite here. The quality of the football is some of the very lowest standards I can remember. There are some very high-quality players here and they are jibbering wrecks. This is all down to Koeman and the backroom staff to get a grip of. They're not getting anywhere near that. I can't see him lasting long at all, if it continues along the course it's taking. 
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Escla on October 01, 2017, 11:07:53 PM
On a brighter note, Newcastle have just equalised against the shite  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 01, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
We havent won in 23 away games and its now happerning at home weve been in a crisis since last season

Relegation fodder
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 11:13:12 PM
Well, I hope Mr Moshiri was watching his star manager he wanted so badly fuck it all up again. When do we play Palace? We might scrape a 0-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: brap2 on October 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Surprised at how unarsed I am actually.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 11:33:56 PM
We havent won in 23 away games and its now happerning at home weve been in a crisis since last season

23 away draws/losses? Is that just Prem or all comps?

Shocking, maybe it is a crisis
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: sam of the south on October 01, 2017, 11:33:57 PM
Surprised at how unarsed I am actually.

Yeah, I'm a bit numb to it.

Like the last months of Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 01, 2017, 11:37:34 PM
We havent won in 23 away games and its now happerning at home weve been in a crisis since last season
For some to realise Goodison would have to become an archaeological dig site.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 11:38:09 PM
23 away draws/losses? Is that just Prem or all comps?

Shocking, maybe it is a crisis

We did beat Rozemberok 1-0 away, otherwise yeah that is a shocking record for a club like Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 01, 2017, 11:38:57 PM
I hope nothing like that ever affects any of your family you pathetic man

There's many a stand up making a good living saying similar and worse.. it was said in humour but you turned it in to something it wasn't so my response is the same as the last.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 11:51:12 PM
There's many a stand up making a good living saying similar and worse.. it was said in humour but you turned it in to something it wasn't so my response is the same as the last.

I can tell what type of person you are just from your last few posts
Have a lovely evening
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: charlatan on October 02, 2017, 12:01:41 AM
Bobby the fraud given 18 months too long. Don't make the same mistake again. This negative prick has to go tonight
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 12:05:02 AM

lol, Dyche is trolling us now.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 12:05:55 AM
post match conference.


lol he ended it saying. the stuff and everything is not in my hands..

well Mr Koeman.. who is the manager? what is the manager supposed to do?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: hill135 on October 02, 2017, 12:20:48 AM
Would you fire him?

I'd be drawing up a shortlist and making discreet calls while I mulled it over.

Bayern want Tuchel apparently. How about Julian Nagelsmann then?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: DanDan on October 02, 2017, 12:42:32 AM
We havent won in 23 away games and its now happerning at home weve been in a crisis since last season

I'm sorry but that's bullshit!
It's only 11 away league games without a win
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Simon Paul on October 02, 2017, 12:43:13 AM
Koeman calling Everton "Everton" rather than "us" again to distance himself from the absolute shit storm he has put in front of us
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bluenuck on October 02, 2017, 12:59:18 AM
Koeman calling Everton "Everton" rather than "us" again to distance himself from the absolute shit storm he has put in front of us

Ha. I'm not the only one that noticed that then.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: bluenuck on October 02, 2017, 01:04:30 AM
I'd be drawing up a shortlist and making discreet calls while I mulled it over

Wouldn't doubt that that's what's going to be done in the next two weeks.

If results aren't there after the next few games then I think we have to pull the trigger. 

It's not going to be easy though. We have Chelsea, Lyon and arsenal coming up. This is why you have to beat burnley at home.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Ravardo on October 02, 2017, 01:07:37 AM
I'm sorry but that's bullshit!
It's only 11 away league games without a win

I heard that from a commentator a couple a games ago...looking back to the start of last season till now out of 27 away games weve won 6,,4 of those were in the first 8 games last season
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: BlueForYou on October 02, 2017, 01:14:48 AM
Away days?

Anything Burnley can do........................... .....
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Simon Paul on October 02, 2017, 01:40:22 AM
when you find an eye-roll gif which is the person you are rolling your eyes at, it's a truly beautiful moment

https://twitter.com/nsno/status/914560376175554560
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: everton1952 on October 02, 2017, 02:12:19 AM
all this pulling foreign names from a hat of available managers when you, we know fuck all about them, with the exception of Ancelotti who is hardly likely to consider a club of our status.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 02, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
What have we ever done to deserve such a Toss Pot.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 02:23:35 AM
all this pulling foreign names from a hat of available managers when you, we know fuck all about them, with the exception of Ancelotti who is hardly likely to consider a club of our status.

But you state you watch a lot of football, others watch alot of European football, some on this forum dont even live in this country (really!!!) they have seen the managers they rate, they have seen the teams of those managers progress,

Same as many have seen the under 23's and those same players play for the under 21 / under 20 England teams..

Opinions to hold weight, need to be based on facts... other wise. they mean jack :p
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:44:02 AM
Is it wrong to really like listening to Sean Dyche speak. He strikes me a bloke who has his head screwed on about football and plays it as most people see it. Refreshing.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Macca77 on October 02, 2017, 02:45:17 AM
This

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21224802

Next manager odds

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21307446
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
This

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21224802

Next manager odds

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21307446

No-one jumping out at me there really.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: plowman2 on October 02, 2017, 02:52:01 AM
Is it wrong to really like listening to Sean Dyche speak. He strikes me a bloke who has his head screwed on about football and plays it as most people see it. Refreshing.
Is that a discreet proposal?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2017, 02:52:24 AM
This

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21224802

Next manager odds

https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/21307446

Fuck me - if he's ahead of Bilic then he's really in the shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:53:14 AM
Is that a discreet proposal?

More like an indecent proposal.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 02:53:45 AM
No-one jumping out at me there really.


I think Mr Loew would be interesting,
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: plowman2 on October 02, 2017, 02:53:53 AM
Just thinking, is it wrong to wonder how Pelegrini is doing in China?
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:55:26 AM

I think Mr Loew would be interesting,

Too many turtle neck jumpers for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Smingers on October 02, 2017, 03:06:07 AM
all this pulling foreign names from a hat of available managers when you, we know fuck all about them, with the exception of Ancelotti who is hardly likely to consider a club of our status.

Forget about status. Money talks mate. These days if the money is right anyone can go anywhere. Do you think Man City had pulling power when the sheikhs came to town? No. They had the money. They went straight out and bought Robinho. That's what we should have done this summer. We knew Rom was a gonner so we should have gone out and bought a marquee striker to replace. But we didn't. Now we have to wait til Jan to buy a top striker.

If we pay the right price we could get Ancellotti.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 02, 2017, 03:08:52 AM

I think Mr Loew would be interesting,

He certainly is, um, interesting...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72F7Yl8y35V5gCZO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 02, 2017, 03:11:46 AM
He certainly is, um, interesting...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72F7Yl8y35V5gCZO/giphy.gif)

haha fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 02, 2017, 03:11:54 AM
He certainly is, um, interesting...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72F7Yl8y35V5gCZO/giphy.gif)
Homemade cheese fanatic eh!
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Realist on October 02, 2017, 03:13:19 AM
Forget about status. Money talks mate. These days if the money is right anyone can go anywhere. Do you think Man City had pulling power when the sheikhs came to town? No. They had the money. They went straight out and bought Robinho. That's what we should have done this summer. We knew Rom was a gonner so we should have gone out and bought a marquee striker to replace. But we didn't. Now we have to wait til Jan to buy a top striker.

If we pay the right price we could get Ancellotti.

🤦🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: TheTone on October 02, 2017, 03:13:41 AM
with a Respect sign in the background too   :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 03:32:12 AM
mmm cheese.

win win for me. :p
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bluedylan on October 02, 2017, 03:36:04 AM
Grim. It's like Lord of the Flies in here.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 02, 2017, 04:06:59 AM
Forget about status. Money talks mate. These days if the money is right anyone can go anywhere. Do you think Man City had pulling power when the sheikhs came to town? No. They had the money. They went straight out and bought Robinho. That's what we should have done this summer. We knew Rom was a gonner so we should have gone out and bought a marquee striker to replace. But we didn't. Now we have to wait til Jan to buy a top striker.

If we pay the right price we could get Ancellotti.

We can't do what city did. We could afford our Robinho but he was only tempted by the plan to burn through another billion.
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: Bally on October 02, 2017, 05:48:28 AM
He certainly is, um, interesting...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72F7Yl8y35V5gCZO/giphy.gif)
My Mrs barely watches anything other than Everton, the three times she has watched games with him involved, he's done that. Hahaha
Title: Re: Everton v Burnley
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 02, 2017, 06:13:50 AM
We had a barman who started doing that only round his gritter, when he sniffed he waved his fingers about like he was playing a flute, he emptied the spot.