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Title: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:07:04 PM
I'm saying yes, what are you saying?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Yes, sadly.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 10:08:38 PM
I'm saying yes, what are you saying?
With HIM at the helm quite probably
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: hannu on October 01, 2017, 10:09:05 PM
unless we get rid of the ginger prick we are defo in a relegation fight
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: john e on October 01, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
I agree with the above
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
Unless the board grow a collective pair between them today and get shut of this joke of a ginger prick manager ...then yes
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Meak on October 01, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
No, we'll eventually find some form, and come January, sign attacking options. It won't be pretty, but we won't be in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:13:41 PM
If we would have won this game, we would have been 8th.

So, I don't think we are in for a relegation battle.

Wake me up over the Christmas break and then we will see.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
We can't rule that out, even though we spent an absolute fortune. Confidence is decreasing all the time with the current manager in charge and his shitty tactics. If we can't get a result at home to teams like Burnley then it's time to get worried.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:15:12 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
we wouldn't get out of the championship in this form
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:18:25 PM
Fuck off

Is that yes or no?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
doubt it.

poor as we've been, there are worse.

cheer up :)
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
we wouldn't get out of the championship in this form

I don't think we will be in a relegation battle, but this is actually VERY true. Wolverhampton would destroy us right now. No joke, they have some silly young talent. Neves, Saville, Jota, Cavillero, Costa. Smart new owner over there.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:21:27 PM
Im saying please do fuck off, seriously
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 10:24:58 PM
No, but we sure as shit ain't in a battle for top six.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:25:39 PM
No. Shite season though which I already cant be arsed with.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
Im saying please do fuck off, seriously

Don't let them affect your mood mate, your life will be a better place - honestly
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:26:36 PM
Delete thread, fuck sake
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:28:18 PM
Don't let them affect your mood mate, your life will be a better place - honestly

My mood is fine, my life is amazing as well, keep trying though
 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:29:05 PM
Delete thread, fuck sake

Why? Head in the sand time again is it?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:30:54 PM
Why? Head in the sand time again is it?

7 games into the season thats why, we'll be fine
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
7 games into the season thats why, we'll be fine

Yes would've been quicker to type
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 10:33:23 PM
Waaaay too early yet - we're only 2 pts off 10th.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Yes would've been quicker to type

Yes to what?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:38:04 PM
Yes to what?

Yes to the original question
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
Yes to the original question

Ok ill humour you

No we're not and won't be in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: bluestevie on October 01, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Ok ill humour you

No we're not and won't be in a relegation battle

Common sense posting
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
Common sense posting

Well yes, the @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) will keep his fingers crossed though
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Well yes, the @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) will keep his fingers crossed though
Fingers crossed for what?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 11:09:52 PM
Who knows?

Whatís evident is this isnít good enough and weíre drifting along rudderless. My main concern is weíll get worse before thereís a change, but just as bad as Koeman is he should still pull this nose dive around given the players at his disposal without any fear of relegation. Itís just this sort of run will come again if he remains in charge, rinse and repeat, and considering the money heís payed and the backing heís had itís not good enough.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:11:44 PM
Fingers crossed for what?

A nice tasty relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
A nice tasty relegation battle

Ah right, thanks for your input 👍
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
No, but considering the Moshiri outlays were looking at about 10th-12th in the table and out of Europa at group stage. Major step back
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueWool on October 01, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
Don't think so myself. Hardly outrageous to suggest though.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Who knows?

Whatís evident is this isnít good enough and weíre drifting along rudderless. My main concern is weíll get worse before thereís a change, but just as bad as Koeman is he should still pull this nose dive around given the players at his disposal without any fear of relegation. Itís just this sort of run will come again if he remains in charge, rinse and repeat, and considering the money heís payed and the backing heís had itís not good enough.

Plus the football is actually quite shit, even when we do win. There have been very few games where we've played well in both halves.

It would be nice if we could get a manager who knows how to make the most of the players they have at their disposal even if there are one or two positions that need improving. The players are not necessarily crap, but the current system is.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 11:31:56 PM
Plus the football is actually quite shit, even when we do win. There have been very few games where we've played well in both halves.

It would be nice if we could get a manager who knows how to make the most of the players they have at their disposal even if there are one or two positions that need improving. The players are not necessarily crap, but the current system is.

Itís hard to think of a good 90 minutes performance since he rocked up isnít it?

City at home stands out but even then they were very wasteful and on another day it could have easily been a walkover.  But other than that thereís not been much to cling to and if you factor in the cups...
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:37:38 PM
Ah right, thanks for your input 👍

Anytime
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 02, 2017, 12:07:20 AM
Not really, no. Certainly we will lose ground over last season and probably become a mid table team like Stoke, Newcastle.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: bluenuck on October 02, 2017, 12:14:57 AM
No.

But the sad thing is is that it's not that crazy to suggest or even ask.

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 02, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
Why? Head in the sand time again is it?
Didn't mean to like .
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 02, 2017, 01:01:12 AM
Didn't mean to like .

No one's interested
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 02, 2017, 01:08:42 AM
No one's interested
Who said that 😅
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blue slug on October 02, 2017, 01:16:51 AM
Looking at results and the way we are playing, if nothing changes then we seriously could end up in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on October 02, 2017, 01:17:04 AM
I don't see any shred of positivity that we can take from the current position at the moment, in terms of picking up points.

My concern is, that I can't see the Board being in any hurry to get rid of Koeman. We're a sinking ship at the moment and looking at our team, how is it going to change?

I hate that it's even a consideration, but I think it's quite arrogant to dismiss it out of hand. We're in very poor form and the manager seems incapable/too ignorant to turn it round. Until that changes, I don't see how it's not a concern.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 02, 2017, 01:32:36 AM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 02, 2017, 01:34:26 AM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?

None
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 01:51:18 AM
I would say no, as to battle you must be strong enough to have a chance...

currently.. we have no chance.. lol
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: benny on October 02, 2017, 02:13:50 AM
No, we'll eventually find some form, and come January, sign attacking options. It won't be pretty, but we won't be in a relegation battle

                    i`ll go along with this
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:39:53 AM
It's easy to say no because we have lots of decent players but we haven't played well yet in about 13 games this season, we concede goals with alarming ease and we don't score many. In fact I can't think of a team that I would definitely back us to beat at the minute, even Palace.

We look shot of any confidence and as soon as we go a goal down the arses fall out. That's how teams get sucked into an area which becomes difficult to recover from. A few more defeats on the bounce in the next few games (very likely against Chelsea, Lyon and Arsenal ) and all of a sudden you're writing your season off and any new manager is coming in and looking at setting up games to make sure you don't get beat to not fall further down the league, instead of coming into a club and trying to put your stamp on it.

I hope the club use this international break to put a few contingency plans in place.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 02, 2017, 02:55:53 AM
No but I do think we are destined for mid table boredom this season now and that's not good enough.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2017, 03:03:00 AM
Such a fucking tedious thread.

Just two posters needling the shit out of each other.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2017, 03:04:56 AM
But in the spirit of not just adding to the negativity and answering the OP I guess I should also say that no - I don't think we're in for a relegation battle but if I had to stick a fiver on where we'll finish this season I think I'd go 12th. Maybe 14th.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 02, 2017, 03:06:04 AM
we're lucky to even have 7 points, shocking start to the season
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: MrWhite on October 02, 2017, 04:03:53 AM
The bookies think no. Given we have 7 points from 7 games, I'm going to agree with them. It's been a long, long time since we've gone a whole season playing complete shite, even if the board sticks with Koeman and we keep playing shite for a while, it's highly likely we will have a good spell at some point, which will keep us clear of the bottom three.

However, despite the already polarised opinions about the OP and his thread starting, it's probably no longer fair to dismiss some of his stronger negative assertions out of hand, yet alone with abuse. Personally, I find it depressing to admit that his opinions have been more accurate than I expected, but that's not his fault. While believing we are going to be in a relegation battle is still fairly extreme for me, his concerns about Koeman are gaining credence.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on October 02, 2017, 04:41:48 AM
Can we rule out top 4?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: plowman2 on October 02, 2017, 05:04:10 AM
Right now we are closer to relegation than Europe
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Shogun on October 02, 2017, 05:14:54 AM
The fact we finished as high as 11th under Martinez tells you how much utter dross there is in this league.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 02, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
Is that yes or no?

Remind me again, what was the question ?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 02, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?

I see us possibly getting a point at brighton and defeats against Arsenal and Leicester. Wonder if Moshiri is still backing him then.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 02, 2017, 04:19:50 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 04:25:10 PM
We'll still finish 7th even after this shite start. If you look at who is up their in our place, Burnley and Watford, you realise we actually have quite a shite league with half a dozen good teams with money at the top. Tempted to say even if we had a decent start we'd only finish 7th anyway which makes you realise where we are in the pecking order and will be for as long as I can see.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 02, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.

Correct
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 02, 2017, 07:38:52 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.

They did, thatís correct, but they still had about 2/3 of their fans do a runner after they went down, as soon as they came back up and  got taken over they all came crawling back.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 02, 2017, 08:12:01 PM
And we'll stand by whoever is in charge

An interviewer, last night, asked Koeman if he could take the pressure and criticism being aimed at him

"Of course", he said, "It goes with the job - if you don't like it...................get out"

Yep, takes guts - that'll do for me, Ron

Just need a few more guts around you


Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 02, 2017, 08:34:24 PM
They did, thatís correct, but they still had about 2/3 of their fans do a runner after they went down, as soon as they came back up and  got taken over they all came crawling back.

They still got 30k + attendances so it wasn't that many who walked off. Great support in the circumstances. If that happend to us there wouldn't be a tree or lampost without a blue hanging from it..
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 03, 2017, 12:01:15 AM
They still got 30k + attendances so it wasn't that many who walked off. Great support in the circumstances. If that happend to us there wouldn't be a tree or lampost without a blue hanging from it..

Kinell, thatís s bit... strong.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ravardo on October 03, 2017, 12:09:34 AM
Same question being asked on talksport now
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 03, 2017, 12:11:35 AM
Kinell, thatís s bit... strong.

The hysteria on here sometimes is ridiculous though. Nobody dies if we don't win
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 03, 2017, 12:25:25 AM
I have full faith in Koeman being able to get us relegated given enough time ....he's shown he has all the qualities required so far .😅😅
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Simon Paul on October 03, 2017, 12:55:30 AM
absolutely no chance of this
























we haven't got a 'battle' in us!
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 03, 2017, 01:14:21 AM
Interesting article on BBC football website, " despite miserable start" will still finish 7th ( think Lxx said that earlier ?) predictions made by computer simulation, Lpool to finish 6th !
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Morta75 on October 03, 2017, 01:15:52 AM
A big NO on hat. But we will struggel to come top 10 with these poor display's
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 03, 2017, 04:26:50 AM
can still support Everton and not be happy with our team, support is not the same as being patriotic..

I want to see the best for Everton, atm, I feel that would be achieved without the current manager.
I still support the team and the players, and if things change around, then thats fucking awesome.
The way we have been playing is abysmal, and i cant see that changing if he keeps saying we have no creativity, when he plays 4 fucking number 10s'.
Its the Martinez-esque delusion that has turned me off Koeman, not just his style of play.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
Can we rule out top 14?

Fixed.

And probably.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
The hysteria on here sometimes is ridiculous though. Nobody dies if we don't win

I do.

A little.

Inside.

Only to be reborn again midweek in time for the next match! COYB!
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: themilkycoffees on October 03, 2017, 06:39:45 PM
I don't think we will go down, but we're far from being too good to go down. Current situation is dire, no real plan or shape and a worrying lack of effort from the players. 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 04, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
relegation battle synopsis:

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3219820/how-can-clubs-avoid-the-premier-league-relegation-battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 04, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
I wouldnt mind if we did.. least we would have something to play for this season.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:37:22 AM
Reviving this because we're dog shit
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:43:16 AM
Yes no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:15 AM
No
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:37 AM
Maybe
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 05:00:07 AM
Big Sam.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 05:05:06 AM
Can't imagine the kind of prices other teams are going to asking us for their strikers in January.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 20, 2017, 05:11:36 AM
Nah
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 03:22:44 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Redartin on October 20, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.

I don't agree with your suggestion, but if YOU want to run with your theory why not fuck him out as soon as you get 40 points? why wait til May? or is it going to take to May to reach the 40?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.

Bizarre logic. Koeman got us in this position, and you think he's the most viable candidate to sort things out? Based on what?

If we get a vaguely competent manager in soon, we'll fly up the table. We have loads of good players, and a better squad than most of the other squads, outside of the Top 6. Your commitment to Koeman borders on the delusional.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 03:43:03 PM
I am delusional, always have been

Hang in there, Ron

If not, here's to your delusional successor



Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 20, 2017, 03:43:26 PM
Nah. But Iím really quite bored of watching us. Even the good bits arenít that good at the moment.

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:23:11 PM
If at any stage you find yourself in a relegation position (which will probably be us on Sunday) you have to assume you're in a relegation fight. It'd be silly to think otherwise, until you start to climb the table.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 20, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
A defeat against Arsenal and Leicester definitely puts us in one.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Bizarre logic. Koeman got us in this position, and you think he's the most viable candidate to sort things out? Based on what?

No, I am not delusional about Koeman, but I will counter your valid question with this. Who are the viable candidates you have in mind who you might offer a contract to? You can trot out a list of foreign managers that probably neither of us have a clue about, or you can list the few available British managers. Or you can as some have suggested, offer the salvation of our club to Unsworth with zero managerial experience perhaps on a temporary contract.  Any of these will be a step into the unknown. Maybe stay with nurse for fear of something worse? 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 09:30:22 PM
Logical
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 09:34:01 PM
If at any stage you find yourself in a relegation position (which will probably be us on Sunday) you have to assume you're in a relegation fight. It'd be silly to think otherwise, until you start to climb the table.

That's how teams sleepwalk into trouble.

I don't think the goals tally lies either. If we can't score regularly then we're going to seriously struggle there is no two ways about it. The difference in recent years is that even when we were bad under Martinez I was confident with Lukaku up front we'd get goals (the things you need to win games, and turn 1 point into 3).

Now, we have nothing and that is more scary than having Martinez in charge to me.

I think we're going to have to change the manager but I think we're going to have to pay a shit ton for probably only a half decent striker come January in an attempt to course correct. The money we should've spent earlier to get a better calibre of player we'll probably waste (value wise) again this next window.

Unless we really sort out of scouting network.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 20, 2017, 09:41:49 PM
We won't go down but we wouldn't have gone down under Martinez either . The point is we are in a battle to stay out of the relegation zone and that is not good enough given Koeman has had a shit load of backing so far and really has done nothing to deserve more in January . With or without the Cheesehead we will stay up . So much for all the expectations ..........................
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 09:43:44 PM
That's how teams sleepwalk into trouble.

I don't think the goals tally lies either. If we can't score regularly then we're going to seriously struggle there is no two ways about it. The difference in recent years is that even when we were bad under Martinez I was confident with Lukaku up front we'd get goals (the things you need to win games, and turn 1 point into 3).

Now, we have nothing and that is more scary than having Martinez in charge to me.

I think we're going to have to change the manager but I think we're going to have to pay a shit ton for probably only a half decent striker come January in an attempt to course correct. The money we should've spent earlier to get a better calibre of player we'll probably waste (value wise) again this next window.

Unless we really sort out of scouting network.

Without Big Rom, we definitely would have been in a relegation scrap when the wheels came off for Roberto.

Well, we are without Big Rom now, aren't we?  Ross as well.  Where are the random saving goals coming from?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 09:51:12 PM
Not Klaassen or Sandro

And not Mirallas or Lookman

Rooney and DCL, if we're lucky

Oumar, if we're very lucky
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 09:55:00 PM
Difficult to say where the goals will come from with only Rooney capable of an odd goal and DCL threatening occasionally.  If Koeman fails to get 4 wins before New Year then the trap door opens and we would have to bin him and maybe offer a short term contract to someone like Big Sam. How we would attract a couple of big players in January is beyond me; not for lack of money, but for lack of a credible manager.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: nwatson on October 21, 2017, 01:19:35 AM
yes we are.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blue slug on October 21, 2017, 01:25:42 AM
We're right in the shit now as far as I'm concerned, the longer koeman stays the deeper the shit becomes imo
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 21, 2017, 01:35:40 AM
Be a few more games before he is fired. Think we need to get to that 20 point mark before the turn of the year though otherwise we are in serious trouble.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: American Evertonian on October 21, 2017, 01:43:29 AM
Difficult to say where the goals will come from with only Rooney capable of an odd goal and DCL threatening occasionally.


This is exactly what scares me. We look toothless in every match so far. Now it feels like every goal we score is a gift from God and borderline miraculous with our finishers on the pitch.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 21, 2017, 02:00:19 AM
we are better than nobody in the prem and what league the Cyprus FC Flip Flop lot would be in over here really should give perspective.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: april on October 21, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
I look at the table to see who is worse. West Ham? Yes, but look like theyíre about to change Bilic, which could mean the upturn a new manager brings. Palace? Yes. Bournemouth? Yes. Leicester? Not with Vardy and Mahrez. Iím worried that unless the change isnít made soon, itíll get harder to scrap out of it.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: ally2 on October 21, 2017, 04:31:33 AM
Yeah it's serious. I'd take another manager but I'd rather keep Koeman than throw Unsworth into this, for both our sakes. Under 23 football is a long way from the cut and thrust of a disjointed first team rock bottom on confidence.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:43:28 PM
Sinking ship
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 09:44:49 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:53:28 PM
No.  We're in it now.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:54:30 PM
We are in one currently.

And if we don't sack Koeman I am pretty sure we will be in one all season.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bwana on October 22, 2017, 09:56:57 PM
With Koeman we are and there's actually a real chance to get relegated too. Only a new manager will have guts to do the necessary changes (Sigurdsson's role, Klaassen, Davies... Formation...) We have been found out now and only through change we have an opportunity to bail us out. Koeman isn't capable of solving those problems and he's been given more time, the only change in the situation will be for worse.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 09:57:07 PM
yup, deffo in the 'we need to get to 40 points and see where we go from there' stage

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:58:44 PM
yup, deffo in the 'we need to get to 40 points and see where we go from there' stage
Unfortunately this
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 09:58:45 PM
you better start believing in ghost stories lady, because you're in one
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
No.  We're in it now.

Don't like this post just agree with it, we have only two players who have scored league goals, if you can't score enough goals a nd defend like we do, you are always going to be in a relegation battle.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Unfortunately this

Almost right. We just need to GET to 40 points.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 10:05:19 PM
Don't like this post just agree with it, we have only two players who have scored league goals, if you can't score enough goals a nd defend like we do, you are always going to be in a relegation battle.

Almost all our goals are pure, random garbage pickup, too.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
can any one honestly see us getting 40 points with this fella in charge ? the 2 wins we have we should of drew or worse, we were very fortunate, getting beat at home by burnley , ffs come on , he stays we are doomed
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 23, 2017, 05:58:51 AM
We are definitely one of the worst teams in the league on form at this moment. I think only West Ham are playing as gutless and clueless as our boys.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 09:49:34 AM
...we have only two players who have scored league goals.

God that's awful. Seems too grim for words.
Even the word "grim" feels too sunny.

And that's before you confront the fact that Niasse is one of the two.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 23, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
No.  We're in it now.

Think some people (not just you NC) need to chill, we are 4 points from mid table, 5 points behind Liverpool with over 6 months and 29 games to go, I personally would give Koeman the next three league matches.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Glory on October 23, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
But we don't look even close to winning.

You're deluded if you're not taking the prospect of a relegation battle, on current form, seriously.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 23, 2017, 01:56:58 PM
But we don't look even close to winning.

You're deluded if you're not taking the prospect of a relegation battle, on current form, seriously.

Then call me deluded if it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: 74Blue on October 23, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
We are currently in the bottom three and are in fucking abysmal form. There is no such thing as being too good to go down. We need to start picking up points and quickly, otherwise we could very easily be left languishing at the foot of the table.
Whilst we have lots of captains in the squad, I'm not seeing any real leaders. I don't see anyone in our first team who has the mentality to roll their sleeves up and battle their way out of trouble. I don't see anybody prepared to hand out bollockings on the pitch to team mates and drive us forward. We're not scoring goals, and aren't even creating opportunities. I'd have a completely different opinion if we were at least having lots of shots on target that were just not going in. At least then, you have the belief that no matter what, you are still creating chances and you are just going through a bit of an unlucky patch. If you're still creating chances, one will go in eventually.
Can anybody see where Everton's next 3 points are coming from at the moment, because I certainly can't.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 02:59:58 PM
Think some people (not just you NC) need to chill, we are 4 points from mid table, 5 points behind Liverpool with over 6 months and 29 games to go, I personally would give Koeman the next three league matches.

It's only October and you're characterizing giving our manager just three more matches to prove himself as "chill"...well, that just shows how desperate things have gotten.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 23, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
Think some people (not just you NC) need to chill, we are 4 points from mid table, 5 points behind Liverpool with over 6 months and 29 games to go, I personally would give Koeman the next three league matches.

At what point would you pull the trigger? How low do we have to go before we do that.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: di_guyo on October 23, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 23, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
At what point would you pull the trigger? How low do we have to go before we do that.

Think I said personally I would give him another three games.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 23, 2017, 05:20:53 PM
It's only October and you're characterizing giving our manager just three more matches to prove himself as "chill"...well, that just shows how desperate things have gotten.



????
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 23, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
Think some people (not just you NC) need to chill, we are 4 points from mid table, 5 points behind Liverpool with over 6 months and 29 games to go, I personally would give Koeman the next three league matches.
also we need to win 1 game every 3 games if we are to stay out of the relegation zone..

these Koeman fans need to see the hard truth, losing to shit teams is the only way they will change their mindsets.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Redartin on October 23, 2017, 06:53:29 PM
Think I said personally I would give him another three games.

Suffer baby suffer.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: brap2 on October 23, 2017, 07:08:08 PM
I'm worried that the prem is entering a new era, and once again we're on the wrong side of the fence. If we allow t to continue we could very, very easily find ourselves adrift and it would be catastrophic.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 23, 2017, 07:09:01 PM
Remember when the talk was that it had started to become a top 7?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: brap2 on October 23, 2017, 07:12:53 PM
Remember when the talk was that it had started to become a top 7?

It possibly has and we will find ourselves letting some two bob outfit sat in our seat as the best of the rest.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 23, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
Only 2 players scored?

Sheeeeeeeeeesh.

We are an injury to Jordan Pickford away from being dicked by 7 or 8 goals EVERY WEEK the way we are playing right now.

Someone wrap that lad in cotton wool!
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: brap2 on October 24, 2017, 02:11:05 PM
Only 2 players scored?

Sheeeeeeeeeesh.

We are an injury to Jordan Pickford away from being dicked by 7 or 8 goals EVERY WEEK the way we are playing right now.

Someone wrap that lad in cotton wool!

He already looks like he is under that goalie top.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 24, 2017, 02:49:28 PM
He already looks like he is under that goalie top.

Puppy fat - he's only a young'un!

Either that or he's trying to emulate the greatest goalkeeper the world has ever seen    :)
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 24, 2017, 03:02:41 PM
Puppy fat - he's only a young'un!

Either that or he's trying to emulate the greatest goalkeeper the world has ever seen    :)
Old three Jersey Nev was class 😅
Title: Re:
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 24, 2017, 03:55:25 PM
Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?

changing my answer from 'they can't battle' to a simple NO! :D
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 24, 2017, 05:00:12 PM
Unless you turn the table upside down, or much more difficult to do, confidently predict the 4 wins we need before New Year to prevent a traumatic 2018, the answer is "yes". 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 24, 2017, 07:36:52 PM
Possibly a relegation battle

Cannot see us banging in the goals (will we manage to bag three in a game?) On that basis, probably

Have to be careful - is Dixie Dyche a bit Mike Walker territory? Gives me the jitters thinking about it and could even mean another sacking come season end

Out of the two, I'd prefer TT at the races

And keep Unsy with the first team from now on

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blueToffee on October 29, 2017, 10:47:54 PM
A quarter of the season gone, were on 8 pts and well and truly belong in the bottom 3. Our goal difference says everything about this team.

Almost the entire starting XI looks weak, whoever is out there. The defence looks chronically old, the attack without clue and the midfield invisible.

100% we are in a relegation fight this season.

Furthermore, itís  going to take a ton of money and an amazing managerial appointment to turn this into anything other than a relegation fight.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 29, 2017, 10:49:53 PM
A quarter of the season gone, were on 8 pts and well and truly belong in the bottom 3. Our goal difference says everything about this team.

Almost the entire starting XI looks weak, whoever is out there. The defence looks chronically old, the attack without clue and the midfield invisible.

100% we are in a relegation fight this season.

Furthermore, itís  going to take a ton of money and an amazing managerial appointment to turn this into anything other than a relegation fight.
Spot on
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 29, 2017, 10:51:10 PM
The overriding factor in our choice of new manager has to be the real possibility of relegation.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 29, 2017, 10:58:17 PM
Yes, I would say we are currently in a relegation battle.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Cozzie on October 29, 2017, 10:58:52 PM
A quarter of the season gone, were on 8 pts and well and truly belong in the bottom 3. Our goal difference says everything about this team.

Almost the entire starting XI looks weak, whoever is out there. The defence looks chronically old, the attack without clue and the midfield invisible.

100% we are in a relegation fight this season.

Furthermore, itís  going to take a ton of money and an amazing managerial appointment to turn this into anything other than a relegation fight.

Grim and even more sad that it's true.

Worried isn't the word.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Makis on October 29, 2017, 11:16:39 PM
Been thinking we'll be alright but this looks just as bad as it has all season. We just can't create and the defence can't keep tight.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 29, 2017, 11:17:15 PM
Today has confirmed to me for the first time (this season), we are in a relegation scrap. And there's no obvious fix

Striker in January is a must.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 29, 2017, 11:35:21 PM
No fucking about seeing how unsworth does we need someone in now who can at least set this team up to not be out of games after half an hour then in Jan we need 4 or 5 players to stay up.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 29, 2017, 11:37:29 PM
Most certainly yes
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Robioto on October 29, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
We are in a relegation battle. Over a quarter of the season and in the bottom three, there is no other way to look at it.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 29, 2017, 11:52:38 PM
Watford is now must win imo.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 29, 2017, 11:52:58 PM
Seems apparent now that it wasn't just a bad manager that put us in this position. It's such a monumental fuck up from the board and possibly Steve Walsh too.

Not strengthening in key areas (like LB) and most importantly not signing a half decent replacement for Lukaku could actually relegate our club.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: bluenuck on October 30, 2017, 12:00:15 AM
No idea how to put a tweet in here, but here's one from EFC Statto

#EFC's league record this season is W2 D2 L6. The last time they had that exact record after 10 games was 1950/51, when they got relegated.


Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on October 30, 2017, 12:27:21 AM
Seems apparent now that it wasn't just a bad manager that put us in this position. It's such a monumental fuck up from the board and possibly Steve Walsh too.

Not strengthening in key areas (like LB) and most importantly not signing a half decent replacement for Lukaku could actually relegate our club.
Luke Garbutt is looking good at the u23's
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 30, 2017, 12:32:59 AM
Man I'm worried

We're gonna be there or thereabouts I think. At least there are lots of poor sides in the league

Us, Palace, Brighton, Bournemouth, West Ham , Swansea, Stoke, Huddersfield, West Brom

Realistically it's 3 of these that are going down. We need to sort things out quickly
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 30, 2017, 12:35:15 AM
No idea how to put a tweet in here, but here's one from EFC Statto

#EFC's league record this season is W2 D2 L6. The last time they had that exact record after 10 games was 1950/51, when they got relegated.




Trying to be positive here but here is another stat. Everton have conceded 20 in their opening 10 league games. The most they've conceded since 94/95.


The last time we won anything. Come on you fucking blues
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 30, 2017, 12:39:04 AM
At least we'll have something to play for in May for a change.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 30, 2017, 12:39:30 AM
I think we'll be fine eventually but the reality of our situation right now is that we need a big upturn in form and performance.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 30, 2017, 12:44:41 AM
Even at this stage, we're 2 wins away from 8th. Far too early to panic. Ok, admittedly we haven't looked like winning games so 2 wins seems far away at the moment but still, I think we should keep perspective.

We need any sort of win and confidence boost in that Watford game and can still get things back on track.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Heisenberg on October 30, 2017, 12:45:05 AM
The single worst summer I can ever remember. Including the one were we got nobody!

Walsh is about 75% to blame for this. Fucking shite
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2017, 12:46:47 AM
Luke Garbutt is looking good at the u23's

Not registered for the Premier League.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2017, 12:48:25 AM
I think we'll be fine eventually but the reality of our situation right now is that we need a big upturn in form and performance.

I think we're in danger of being a bit too glib about things because we've not been in this situation for years. We're bang in it, we don't score goals, we don't keep clean sheets. We're no better than anyone else in the league. Time to start facing reality.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 30, 2017, 12:49:09 AM
I think part of Unsworth's problem right now is he's tried to revert back to what he has seen work for us. Lennon, Mirallas etc. There's nothing wrong with that and it may well grind us out some results hopefully but he needs to find a way to integrate newer players even if it's just one a game. You have to find room in the side for Siggurddson (who we know is a good player) more often to find some form. You also have to start giving Sandro some opportunity somewhere given how impotent we look.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 30, 2017, 12:50:54 AM
I think part of Unsworth's problem right now is he's tried to revert back to what he has seen work for us. Lennon, Mirallas etc. There's nothing wrong with that and it may well grind us out some results hopefully but he needs to find a way to integrate newer players even if it's just one a game. You have to find room in the side for Siggurddson (who we know is a good player) more often to find some form. You also have to start giving Sandro some opportunity somewhere given how impotent we look.

Massively fucked up today for me. Seemed like he was making a point and it backfired.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: velimski on October 30, 2017, 12:51:39 AM
Not registered for the Premier League.

Whose brilliant idea was that? Koeman presumably.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Heisenberg on October 30, 2017, 12:51:58 AM
I think part of Unsworth's problem right now is he's tried to revert back to what he has seen work for us. Lennon, Mirallas etc. There's nothing wrong with that and it may well grind us out some results hopefully but he needs to find a way to integrate newer players even if it's just one a game. You have to find room in the side for Siggurddson (who we know is a good player) more often to find some form. You also have to start giving Sandro some opportunity somewhere given how impotent we look.

It's impossible though. No manager, and I mean none in world football can make a decent team with those players. The only way to make a balanced team is to use Moyes players (Mirralas and Lennon) which says alot considering he left about 4/5 years ago. Its all number 10's and no strikers. We cant be good again until we have bought more suitable players simple as that
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 30, 2017, 12:52:51 AM
It's impossible though. No manager, and I mean none in world football can make a decent team with those players. The only way to make a balanced team is to use Moyes players (Mirralas and Lennon) which says alot considering he left about 4/5 years ago. Its all number 10's and no strikers. We cant be good again until we have bought more suitable players simple as that

I'm not having we can't be much better than we have been.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 30, 2017, 12:54:07 AM
Whose brilliant idea was that? Koeman presumably.

To be fair the lad hasn't been able to get a game in the championship and has flattered to deceive since he first broke through. There's nothing to say he's even close to good enough. Look at the young players who have come in and ask yourself why he isn't even being considered.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Heisenberg on October 30, 2017, 01:02:14 AM
I'm not having we can't be much better than we have been.

I really dont think we can without a striker and having lennon and mirralas as our wingers. Both arguably championship standard
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 30, 2017, 01:06:04 AM
I'd have Mirallas as one of the strikers, offers fuck all on the wings these days but one thing he has is an eye for a goal
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 30, 2017, 01:21:19 AM
We're in a scrap, that's for sure