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Title: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:07:04 PM
I'm saying yes, what are you saying?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Tinga on October 01, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Yes, sadly.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Martip on October 01, 2017, 10:08:38 PM
I'm saying yes, what are you saying?
With HIM at the helm quite probably
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: hannu on October 01, 2017, 10:09:05 PM
unless we get rid of the ginger prick we are defo in a relegation fight
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: john e on October 01, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
I agree with the above
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 01, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
Unless the board grow a collective pair between them today and get shut of this joke of a ginger prick manager ...then yes
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Meak on October 01, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
No, we'll eventually find some form, and come January, sign attacking options. It won't be pretty, but we won't be in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:13:41 PM
If we would have won this game, we would have been 8th.

So, I don't think we are in for a relegation battle.

Wake me up over the Christmas break and then we will see.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
We can't rule that out, even though we spent an absolute fortune. Confidence is decreasing all the time with the current manager in charge and his shitty tactics. If we can't get a result at home to teams like Burnley then it's time to get worried.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 01, 2017, 10:15:12 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 01, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
we wouldn't get out of the championship in this form
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:18:25 PM
Fuck off

Is that yes or no?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blob on October 01, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
doubt it.

poor as we've been, there are worse.

cheer up :)
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on October 01, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
we wouldn't get out of the championship in this form

I don't think we will be in a relegation battle, but this is actually VERY true. Wolverhampton would destroy us right now. No joke, they have some silly young talent. Neves, Saville, Jota, Cavillero, Costa. Smart new owner over there.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:21:27 PM
Im saying please do fuck off, seriously
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mac934 on October 01, 2017, 10:24:58 PM
No, but we sure as shit ain't in a battle for top six.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Cozzie on October 01, 2017, 10:25:39 PM
No. Shite season though which I already cant be arsed with.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
Im saying please do fuck off, seriously

Don't let them affect your mood mate, your life will be a better place - honestly
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:26:36 PM
Delete thread, fuck sake
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:28:18 PM
Don't let them affect your mood mate, your life will be a better place - honestly

My mood is fine, my life is amazing as well, keep trying though
 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:29:05 PM
Delete thread, fuck sake

Why? Head in the sand time again is it?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:30:54 PM
Why? Head in the sand time again is it?

7 games into the season thats why, we'll be fine
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
7 games into the season thats why, we'll be fine

Yes would've been quicker to type
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Everton Mint on October 01, 2017, 10:33:23 PM
Waaaay too early yet - we're only 2 pts off 10th.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Yes would've been quicker to type

Yes to what?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 10:38:04 PM
Yes to what?

Yes to the original question
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
Yes to the original question

Ok ill humour you

No we're not and won't be in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: bluestevie on October 01, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Ok ill humour you

No we're not and won't be in a relegation battle

Common sense posting
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
Common sense posting

Well yes, the @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) will keep his fingers crossed though
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Well yes, the @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) will keep his fingers crossed though
Fingers crossed for what?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 11:09:52 PM
Who knows?

Whatís evident is this isnít good enough and weíre drifting along rudderless. My main concern is weíll get worse before thereís a change, but just as bad as Koeman is he should still pull this nose dive around given the players at his disposal without any fear of relegation. Itís just this sort of run will come again if he remains in charge, rinse and repeat, and considering the money heís payed and the backing heís had itís not good enough.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:11:44 PM
Fingers crossed for what?

A nice tasty relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 01, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
A nice tasty relegation battle

Ah right, thanks for your input 👍
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 01, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
No, but considering the Moshiri outlays were looking at about 10th-12th in the table and out of Europa at group stage. Major step back
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueWool on October 01, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
Don't think so myself. Hardly outrageous to suggest though.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: toffee_scot on October 01, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Who knows?

Whatís evident is this isnít good enough and weíre drifting along rudderless. My main concern is weíll get worse before thereís a change, but just as bad as Koeman is he should still pull this nose dive around given the players at his disposal without any fear of relegation. Itís just this sort of run will come again if he remains in charge, rinse and repeat, and considering the money heís payed and the backing heís had itís not good enough.

Plus the football is actually quite shit, even when we do win. There have been very few games where we've played well in both halves.

It would be nice if we could get a manager who knows how to make the most of the players they have at their disposal even if there are one or two positions that need improving. The players are not necessarily crap, but the current system is.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ross on October 01, 2017, 11:31:56 PM
Plus the football is actually quite shit, even when we do win. There have been very few games where we've played well in both halves.

It would be nice if we could get a manager who knows how to make the most of the players they have at their disposal even if there are one or two positions that need improving. The players are not necessarily crap, but the current system is.

Itís hard to think of a good 90 minutes performance since he rocked up isnít it?

City at home stands out but even then they were very wasteful and on another day it could have easily been a walkover.  But other than that thereís not been much to cling to and if you factor in the cups...
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 01, 2017, 11:37:38 PM
Ah right, thanks for your input 👍

Anytime
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 02, 2017, 12:07:20 AM
Not really, no. Certainly we will lose ground over last season and probably become a mid table team like Stoke, Newcastle.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: bluenuck on October 02, 2017, 12:14:57 AM
No.

But the sad thing is is that it's not that crazy to suggest or even ask.

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 02, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
Why? Head in the sand time again is it?
Didn't mean to like .
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 02, 2017, 01:01:12 AM
Didn't mean to like .

No one's interested
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 02, 2017, 01:08:42 AM
No one's interested
Who said that 😅
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blue slug on October 02, 2017, 01:16:51 AM
Looking at results and the way we are playing, if nothing changes then we seriously could end up in a relegation battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: AllyBlue14 on October 02, 2017, 01:17:04 AM
I don't see any shred of positivity that we can take from the current position at the moment, in terms of picking up points.

My concern is, that I can't see the Board being in any hurry to get rid of Koeman. We're a sinking ship at the moment and looking at our team, how is it going to change?

I hate that it's even a consideration, but I think it's quite arrogant to dismiss it out of hand. We're in very poor form and the manager seems incapable/too ignorant to turn it round. Until that changes, I don't see how it's not a concern.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 02, 2017, 01:32:36 AM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 02, 2017, 01:34:26 AM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?

None
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 02, 2017, 01:51:18 AM
I would say no, as to battle you must be strong enough to have a chance...

currently.. we have no chance.. lol
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: benny on October 02, 2017, 02:13:50 AM
No, we'll eventually find some form, and come January, sign attacking options. It won't be pretty, but we won't be in a relegation battle

                    i`ll go along with this
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 02:39:53 AM
It's easy to say no because we have lots of decent players but we haven't played well yet in about 13 games this season, we concede goals with alarming ease and we don't score many. In fact I can't think of a team that I would definitely back us to beat at the minute, even Palace.

We look shot of any confidence and as soon as we go a goal down the arses fall out. That's how teams get sucked into an area which becomes difficult to recover from. A few more defeats on the bounce in the next few games (very likely against Chelsea, Lyon and Arsenal ) and all of a sudden you're writing your season off and any new manager is coming in and looking at setting up games to make sure you don't get beat to not fall further down the league, instead of coming into a club and trying to put your stamp on it.

I hope the club use this international break to put a few contingency plans in place.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Silas on October 02, 2017, 02:55:53 AM
No but I do think we are destined for mid table boredom this season now and that's not good enough.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2017, 03:03:00 AM
Such a fucking tedious thread.

Just two posters needling the shit out of each other.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 02, 2017, 03:04:56 AM
But in the spirit of not just adding to the negativity and answering the OP I guess I should also say that no - I don't think we're in for a relegation battle but if I had to stick a fiver on where we'll finish this season I think I'd go 12th. Maybe 14th.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: TheTone on October 02, 2017, 03:06:04 AM
we're lucky to even have 7 points, shocking start to the season
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: MrWhite on October 02, 2017, 04:03:53 AM
The bookies think no. Given we have 7 points from 7 games, I'm going to agree with them. It's been a long, long time since we've gone a whole season playing complete shite, even if the board sticks with Koeman and we keep playing shite for a while, it's highly likely we will have a good spell at some point, which will keep us clear of the bottom three.

However, despite the already polarised opinions about the OP and his thread starting, it's probably no longer fair to dismiss some of his stronger negative assertions out of hand, yet alone with abuse. Personally, I find it depressing to admit that his opinions have been more accurate than I expected, but that's not his fault. While believing we are going to be in a relegation battle is still fairly extreme for me, his concerns about Koeman are gaining credence.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on October 02, 2017, 04:41:48 AM
Can we rule out top 4?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: plowman2 on October 02, 2017, 05:04:10 AM
Right now we are closer to relegation than Europe
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Shogun on October 02, 2017, 05:14:54 AM
The fact we finished as high as 11th under Martinez tells you how much utter dross there is in this league.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 02, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
Is that yes or no?

Remind me again, what was the question ?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 02, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
After today's shite how many nailed on games do you think we have?

I see us possibly getting a point at brighton and defeats against Arsenal and Leicester. Wonder if Moshiri is still backing him then.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 02, 2017, 04:19:50 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 02, 2017, 04:25:10 PM
We'll still finish 7th even after this shite start. If you look at who is up their in our place, Burnley and Watford, you realise we actually have quite a shite league with half a dozen good teams with money at the top. Tempted to say even if we had a decent start we'd only finish 7th anyway which makes you realise where we are in the pecking order and will be for as long as I can see.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 02, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.

Correct
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 02, 2017, 07:38:52 PM
There's some people on here who I seriously doubt are Evertonians. Sort your fuckin heads out and get a grip. I know City fans who stuck with their club through back to back relegations... look at them now. Bitchin on here changes fuck all.... I'm not happy either but it is what it is. We'll be ok because we're nowhere near relegation fodder.

They did, thatís correct, but they still had about 2/3 of their fans do a runner after they went down, as soon as they came back up and  got taken over they all came crawling back.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 02, 2017, 08:12:01 PM
And we'll stand by whoever is in charge

An interviewer, last night, asked Koeman if he could take the pressure and criticism being aimed at him

"Of course", he said, "It goes with the job - if you don't like it...................get out"

Yep, takes guts - that'll do for me, Ron

Just need a few more guts around you


Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 02, 2017, 08:34:24 PM
They did, thatís correct, but they still had about 2/3 of their fans do a runner after they went down, as soon as they came back up and  got taken over they all came crawling back.

They still got 30k + attendances so it wasn't that many who walked off. Great support in the circumstances. If that happend to us there wouldn't be a tree or lampost without a blue hanging from it..
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 03, 2017, 12:01:15 AM
They still got 30k + attendances so it wasn't that many who walked off. Great support in the circumstances. If that happend to us there wouldn't be a tree or lampost without a blue hanging from it..

Kinell, thatís s bit... strong.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Ravardo on October 03, 2017, 12:09:34 AM
Same question being asked on talksport now
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 03, 2017, 12:11:35 AM
Kinell, thatís s bit... strong.

The hysteria on here sometimes is ridiculous though. Nobody dies if we don't win
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: gizzblue on October 03, 2017, 12:25:25 AM
I have full faith in Koeman being able to get us relegated given enough time ....he's shown he has all the qualities required so far .😅😅
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Simon Paul on October 03, 2017, 12:55:30 AM
absolutely no chance of this
























we haven't got a 'battle' in us!
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Escla on October 03, 2017, 01:14:21 AM
Interesting article on BBC football website, " despite miserable start" will still finish 7th ( think Lxx said that earlier ?) predictions made by computer simulation, Lpool to finish 6th !
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Morta75 on October 03, 2017, 01:15:52 AM
A big NO on hat. But we will struggel to come top 10 with these poor display's
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 03, 2017, 04:26:50 AM
can still support Everton and not be happy with our team, support is not the same as being patriotic..

I want to see the best for Everton, atm, I feel that would be achieved without the current manager.
I still support the team and the players, and if things change around, then thats fucking awesome.
The way we have been playing is abysmal, and i cant see that changing if he keeps saying we have no creativity, when he plays 4 fucking number 10s'.
Its the Martinez-esque delusion that has turned me off Koeman, not just his style of play.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
Can we rule out top 14?

Fixed.

And probably.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:59:49 PM
The hysteria on here sometimes is ridiculous though. Nobody dies if we don't win

I do.

A little.

Inside.

Only to be reborn again midweek in time for the next match! COYB!
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: themilkycoffees on October 03, 2017, 06:39:45 PM
I don't think we will go down, but we're far from being too good to go down. Current situation is dire, no real plan or shape and a worrying lack of effort from the players. 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 04, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
relegation battle synopsis:

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3219820/how-can-clubs-avoid-the-premier-league-relegation-battle
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 04, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
I wouldnt mind if we did.. least we would have something to play for this season.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:37:22 AM
Reviving this because we're dog shit
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:43:16 AM
Yes no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:15 AM
No
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:37 AM
Maybe
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 05:00:07 AM
Big Sam.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 05:05:06 AM
Can't imagine the kind of prices other teams are going to asking us for their strikers in January.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 20, 2017, 05:11:36 AM
Nah
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 03:22:44 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Redartin on October 20, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.

I don't agree with your suggestion, but if YOU want to run with your theory why not fuck him out as soon as you get 40 points? why wait til May? or is it going to take to May to reach the 40?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
Relegation deniers think again. We all have opinions on this and  that but one thing overrides opinion and that is the mathematics of relegation. Nothing changes the fact that our target must be 40 points to avoid the drop. That means 8 wins and 8 draws from Sunday onwards. Call it 4 wins before and 4 wins after New Year. If we do get 4 wins before New Year that would constitute a recovery by our standards. If we don't get 4 wins before New Year then we face a hell of a relegation scrap afterwards. Surely Koeman is capable of scrapping us through to safety? The PL future of the club cannot be handed over to an unknown or an inexperienced coach. We might do  worse than keep Koeman until next May.

Bizarre logic. Koeman got us in this position, and you think he's the most viable candidate to sort things out? Based on what?

If we get a vaguely competent manager in soon, we'll fly up the table. We have loads of good players, and a better squad than most of the other squads, outside of the Top 6. Your commitment to Koeman borders on the delusional.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 03:43:03 PM
I am delusional, always have been

Hang in there, Ron

If not, here's to your delusional successor



Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 20, 2017, 03:43:26 PM
Nah. But Iím really quite bored of watching us. Even the good bits arenít that good at the moment.

Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:23:11 PM
If at any stage you find yourself in a relegation position (which will probably be us on Sunday) you have to assume you're in a relegation fight. It'd be silly to think otherwise, until you start to climb the table.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 20, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
A defeat against Arsenal and Leicester definitely puts us in one.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Bizarre logic. Koeman got us in this position, and you think he's the most viable candidate to sort things out? Based on what?

No, I am not delusional about Koeman, but I will counter your valid question with this. Who are the viable candidates you have in mind who you might offer a contract to? You can trot out a list of foreign managers that probably neither of us have a clue about, or you can list the few available British managers. Or you can as some have suggested, offer the salvation of our club to Unsworth with zero managerial experience perhaps on a temporary contract.  Any of these will be a step into the unknown. Maybe stay with nurse for fear of something worse? 
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 09:30:22 PM
Logical
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 09:34:01 PM
If at any stage you find yourself in a relegation position (which will probably be us on Sunday) you have to assume you're in a relegation fight. It'd be silly to think otherwise, until you start to climb the table.

That's how teams sleepwalk into trouble.

I don't think the goals tally lies either. If we can't score regularly then we're going to seriously struggle there is no two ways about it. The difference in recent years is that even when we were bad under Martinez I was confident with Lukaku up front we'd get goals (the things you need to win games, and turn 1 point into 3).

Now, we have nothing and that is more scary than having Martinez in charge to me.

I think we're going to have to change the manager but I think we're going to have to pay a shit ton for probably only a half decent striker come January in an attempt to course correct. The money we should've spent earlier to get a better calibre of player we'll probably waste (value wise) again this next window.

Unless we really sort out of scouting network.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 20, 2017, 09:41:49 PM
We won't go down but we wouldn't have gone down under Martinez either . The point is we are in a battle to stay out of the relegation zone and that is not good enough given Koeman has had a shit load of backing so far and really has done nothing to deserve more in January . With or without the Cheesehead we will stay up . So much for all the expectations ..........................
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 09:43:44 PM
That's how teams sleepwalk into trouble.

I don't think the goals tally lies either. If we can't score regularly then we're going to seriously struggle there is no two ways about it. The difference in recent years is that even when we were bad under Martinez I was confident with Lukaku up front we'd get goals (the things you need to win games, and turn 1 point into 3).

Now, we have nothing and that is more scary than having Martinez in charge to me.

I think we're going to have to change the manager but I think we're going to have to pay a shit ton for probably only a half decent striker come January in an attempt to course correct. The money we should've spent earlier to get a better calibre of player we'll probably waste (value wise) again this next window.

Unless we really sort out of scouting network.

Without Big Rom, we definitely would have been in a relegation scrap when the wheels came off for Roberto.

Well, we are without Big Rom now, aren't we?  Ross as well.  Where are the random saving goals coming from?
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 09:51:12 PM
Not Klaassen or Sandro

And not Mirallas or Lookman

Rooney and DCL, if we're lucky

Oumar, if we're very lucky
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 09:55:00 PM
Difficult to say where the goals will come from with only Rooney capable of an odd goal and DCL threatening occasionally.  If Koeman fails to get 4 wins before New Year then the trap door opens and we would have to bin him and maybe offer a short term contract to someone like Big Sam. How we would attract a couple of big players in January is beyond me; not for lack of money, but for lack of a credible manager.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: nwatson on October 21, 2017, 01:19:35 AM
yes we are.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: blue slug on October 21, 2017, 01:25:42 AM
We're right in the shit now as far as I'm concerned, the longer koeman stays the deeper the shit becomes imo
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 21, 2017, 01:35:40 AM
Be a few more games before he is fired. Think we need to get to that 20 point mark before the turn of the year though otherwise we are in serious trouble.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: American Evertonian on October 21, 2017, 01:43:29 AM
Difficult to say where the goals will come from with only Rooney capable of an odd goal and DCL threatening occasionally.


This is exactly what scares me. We look toothless in every match so far. Now it feels like every goal we score is a gift from God and borderline miraculous with our finishers on the pitch.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 21, 2017, 02:00:19 AM
we are better than nobody in the prem and what league the Cyprus FC Flip Flop lot would be in over here really should give perspective.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: april on October 21, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
I look at the table to see who is worse. West Ham? Yes, but look like theyíre about to change Bilic, which could mean the upturn a new manager brings. Palace? Yes. Bournemouth? Yes. Leicester? Not with Vardy and Mahrez. Iím worried that unless the change isnít made soon, itíll get harder to scrap out of it.
Title: Re: Are Everton headed for a relegation battle?
Post by: ally2 on October 21, 2017, 04:31:33 AM
Yeah it's serious. I'd take another manager but I'd rather keep Koeman than throw Unsworth into this, for both our sakes. Under 23 football is a long way from the cut and thrust of a disjointed first team rock bottom on confidence.