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Title: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Everton News on October 15, 2017, 10:09:12 PM
Koeman : We were unlucky not to win

Everton boss Ronald Koeman says his side deserved all three points at The Amex Stadium against Brighton this afternoon.

Source: Koeman : We were unlucky not to win (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/10/koeman-unlucky-not-win/)
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: arteta4spain on October 15, 2017, 10:30:15 PM
🤦‍♂️ He just can't help himself can he! We were also lucky not to lose. Nice try at a cup half full Ronald but you're not fooling anyone!
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lxxx on October 15, 2017, 10:32:50 PM
Damned if he does damned if he doesn't now isn't he. Not a good place to be.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: gizzblue on October 15, 2017, 10:35:14 PM
Absolute bollocks Ronny lad we deserved to lose (glad we didn't ) but it does its best to paper over mahoosive wall crumbling cracks .
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lxxx on October 15, 2017, 10:36:28 PM
Absolute bollocks Ronny lad we deserved to lose (glad we didn't ) but it does its best to paper over mahoosive wall crumbling cracks .

We didn't really deserve to lose though did we. Neither side did anything in the game to deserve all three points. I know it's tempting but let's stick to the facts.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: gizzblue on October 15, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
We didn't really deserve to lose though did we. Neither side did anything in the game to deserve all three points. I know it's tempting but let's stick to the facts.
We were the shitter team (by a big margin)if you wanna be 'honest' and we're lucky to get the penalty also lucky they didn't get one (sig wasnt a pen he wasnt even trying hard to get the ball).the fact is he's a shit manager and we are stuck with inept tactics and zero chance the club bosses see sense ...the facts
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lxxx on October 15, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
We were the shitter team (by a big margin)if you wanna be 'honest' and we're lucky to get the penalty also lucky they didn't get one (sig wasnt a pen he wasnt even trying hard to get the ball).the fact is he's a shit manager and we are stuck with inept tactics and zero chance the club bosses see sense ...the facts

I agree with your sentiments on Koeman. I just don't think we deserved to lose today's game. We didn't do enough to win but we weren't the 'shitter team by a big margin.'
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 15, 2017, 10:44:26 PM
We were unlucky not to win
We didn't deserve to win tho
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: blueToffee on October 15, 2017, 10:44:45 PM
We were the shitter team (by a big margin)if you wanna be 'honest' and we're lucky to get the penalty also lucky they didn't get one (sig wasnt a pen he wasnt even trying hard to get the ball).the fact is he's a shit manager and we are stuck with inept tactics and zero chance the club bosses see sense ...the facts

Can't agree, two lackluster teams lacking any sort of cutting edge. They had a spell on top just before the goal but that was about the extent of it. We had long periods with the ball, just could do nothing with it.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: gizzblue on October 15, 2017, 10:44:49 PM
I agree with your sentiments on Koeman. I just don't think we deserved to lose today's game. We didn't do enough to win but we weren't the 'shitter team by a big margin.'
Your opinion.
Let's not get side tracked though this was Brighton not a giant killer or even a half decent attacking side ....we are shit...under Koeman end of .
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lxxx on October 15, 2017, 10:49:07 PM
Your opinion.
Let's not get side tracked though this was Brighton not a giant killer or even a half decent attacking side ....we are shit...under Koeman end of .

As I've already said I agree with your thoughts on Koeman but I'm just not trying to change reality by agreeing that we got battered by Brighton when we clearly didn't.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: gizzblue on October 15, 2017, 10:56:42 PM
As I've already said I agree with your thoughts on Koeman but I'm just not trying to change reality by agreeing that we got battered by Brighton when we clearly didn't.
I never said we got battered I said we were shitter than them. ..but anywhoo .
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Simon Paul on October 15, 2017, 10:58:20 PM
We didn't really deserve to lose though did we. Neither side did anything in the game to deserve all three points. I know it's tempting but let's stick to the facts.

Brighton were properly bad

Luckily
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 15, 2017, 11:07:51 PM
It really smacks of the Martinez days when reality is excused away or denied. We got lucky today because a half decent side would have best us.. Koeman isn't a bad manager generally but he's demonstrated he's not a good one for us. No plan B, no shape, better players played in weaker positions and too defensive minded. Lukaku going has exposed that because he gave us goals to make hard to beat a plan A. Sadly I want him gone and Unsi to stand in and see if we can get a better manager. If he does well, which I feel he might then keep him until........
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Silas on October 15, 2017, 11:20:00 PM
We were unlucky but we were still shite. And Pickfords save stopped it from being from 2-0
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Realist on October 15, 2017, 11:21:34 PM
Everything about Koeman bores me
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lxxx on October 15, 2017, 11:28:45 PM
Everything about Koeman bores me

True. Pragmatically emotionless only really works when results are going your way. You're never going to build up a groundswell of good feeling to fall back on when things don't look so rosy.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Tinga on October 15, 2017, 11:57:18 PM
They could have easily won the game at the end.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: everton1952 on October 16, 2017, 02:10:13 AM
Who, Everton?  Sorry to disappoint you but Brighton did not win. You might have better luck against Arsenal.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: blueToffee on October 16, 2017, 02:12:13 AM
They could have easily won the game at the end.

So could we after that scramble.

Doesn't mean either team particularly deserved to win.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Lazarou on October 16, 2017, 11:08:35 AM
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: BlueMaquis on October 16, 2017, 11:24:31 AM
Bruno elbowing DCL in the face was an absolute gift to us. We had no chance of scoring without something like that happening.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: ally2 on October 16, 2017, 02:22:10 PM
We were lucky to draw IMO but Koeman has to say something.  I'm just glad it's nowhere near the Martinez world of "we were phenomenal/incredible" etc.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: everton1952 on October 16, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
Missed the game on Sunday and have only seen the EFC 20 min highlights. An impartial view would say we seemed to play quite well. Presumably Koeman thought the same. 
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: Bluedylan on October 16, 2017, 04:54:42 PM
Missed the game on Sunday and have only seen the EFC 20 min highlights. An impartial view would say we seemed to play quite well. Presumably Koeman thought the same. 

The impartial views I've read said it was an awful game between two poor sides.

One of the managers of those two poor sides is 15 months or so into a job having spent over 220m. The other did brilliantly to get his team promoted from the Championship.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: everton1952 on October 16, 2017, 06:04:38 PM
Goes to show what highlights can do then. I quite enjoyed it. DCL played well. Vlasic is a good buy., Sigurdsson looks like a ball of pent up frustration as he continues to struggle. That is a good sign because when the good player that he is emerges we will benefit. Nothing major will change until January when even this board will recognize they have to correct the major blunders  they made during the transfer window. Mid table by the end of the season and Koeman still in his seat for the 2018/19 transfer window. 
Title: Re: [News]Koeman : We were unlucky not to win
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 17, 2017, 04:58:14 AM
It's like some Zen puzzler:
If you start arguing about whether your team deserved to win less or the opposition deserved to lose more, will anyone bother to join in?