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Title: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Everton News on October 18, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
Koeman: We need to beat Lyon

Everton boss Ronald Koeman has expressed the importance of beating Lyon in the Europa League tomorrow night if Everton are to proceed in the competition.

Source: Koeman: We need to beat Lyon (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/10/koeman-need-beat-lyon/)
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: blueski on October 18, 2017, 08:25:29 PM
scoring one or two goals from open play might help
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: kramer0 on October 18, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
We need to perform better, whatever the result is. If we play well for a run of matches, plenty of us will get off his back. A lot of Evertonians are just looking for some sign of progress, something that suggests that we aren't going to be crap for the rest of the season with Koeman in charge.

A result from another shit performance will only prolong our misery and delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Toddacelli on October 18, 2017, 09:15:01 PM
scoring one or two goals from open play might help

I miss the optimism I had from that first Sandro goal in pre-season against Sevilla.
There was pace, there was movement, there was 1-touch passing there was correct decision-making, there was a composed finish and it all happened in about 60 seconds.
I was ready to start singing 'We're gonna win the league' at that point.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: D15TIN on October 18, 2017, 09:17:05 PM
Start a game on the front foot for a change then, how often do we go in at half time having not scored or being behind under koeman? We start games far too slowly with no urgency

If the players show effort & willingness the crowd will respond
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: ally2 on October 18, 2017, 09:38:00 PM
We need to perform better, whatever the result is. If we play well for a run of matches, plenty of us will get off his back. A lot of Evertonians are just looking for some sign of progress, something that suggests that we aren't going to be crap for the rest of the season with Koeman in charge.

A result from another shit performance will only prolong our misery and delay the inevitable.

Nah. Results are everything. Confidence follows
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: School of Science on October 18, 2017, 10:01:40 PM
Scoring the first goal would be a start and a probable difference maker, a good deserved win on Thursday could give us confidence and should allow us to build a platform to go on a run.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Coyb12 on October 18, 2017, 10:51:36 PM
Another comment on the lines of the Cottee comment from yesterday.We known that mate,tell me how we are going to do it because I'm fucked if I know.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 19, 2017, 12:51:51 AM
Fuck off Koeman.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Bluedylan on October 19, 2017, 12:57:44 AM
In the league, I'll accept signs of progress and improved performances (for now) if they come.

In the cups however, results are the be all and end all. Anything but a win here, and we're pretty much out of it, which is completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Cozzie on October 19, 2017, 12:59:32 AM
Fuck off Koeman.

Pmsl. Dunno why I found this so funny, think it is because I pictured Yozza hughes saying it.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: TheRam on October 19, 2017, 01:14:04 AM
Nah. Results are everything. Confidence follows

Wish people would stop saying this.

We need to start performing well.

We're not going to get a result against Lyon playing poorly.

It's time we started seeing some signs on the pitch that the manager is building towards a cohesive system.

Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: gizzblue on October 19, 2017, 01:30:14 AM
Wish people would stop saying this.

We need to start performing well.

We're not going to get a result against Lyon playing poorly.

It's time we started seeing some signs on the pitch that the manager is building towards a cohesive system.
Not even cohesive as such just a proper fucking system would do .
Baby steps an all that
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 19, 2017, 01:50:16 AM
to play well, we need a formation that doesnt shoe horn players in, also we need pace.. Lookman got taken out of the under 23's around months ago,promoted to the first team squad, from what i recall he hasnt played, let alone been in the match day squad... we can defend, but we struggle to attack.. wish koeman changes his 3-1 attack. It gives us no outlet.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 19, 2017, 02:06:27 AM
Pmsl. Dunno why I found this so funny, think it is because I pictured Yozza hughes saying it.

Yozzer Hughes la. Shake hands!

Gizza job for RK if we lose this.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 19, 2017, 02:13:50 AM
All gone a bit England at the World Cup this.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: ally2 on October 19, 2017, 02:31:24 AM
Wish people would stop saying this.

We need to start performing well.

We're not going to get a result against Lyon playing poorly.

It's time we started seeing some signs on the pitch that the manager is building towards a cohesive system.

It's a circular argument. But you can win without a cohesive system and, right now, I'd happily settle for that because you actually get points for it. If you don't win then players get gripped by desperation and fear, and those are debilitating. I used to be a dreamer, that's why I never took to Moyes. But these days it's all about the win for me, no matter what. I feel like I've given up on the beauty of the game, and that's sad, but I convince myself that better football will come once the pressure has been relieved, and that's enough.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 02:32:51 AM
to play well, we need a formation that doesnt shoe horn players in, also we need pace.. Lookman got taken out of the under 23's around months ago,promoted to the first team squad, from what i recall he hasnt played, let alone been in the match day squad... we can defend, but we struggle to attack.. wish koeman changes his 3-1 attack. It gives us no outlet.
Can we defend?
We concede first every week
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Lxxx on October 19, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
Not subscribing to this ‘results are everything’ outlook. We haven’t played well for 90 minutes once this season. That’s poor by anyone’s standards.

We’ve not won away for home since January either. That’s a Martinez-esque stat and one he would have got crucified over had it happened to him. Strangely it’s not brought up as much as it should be.

It feels like Groundhog Day from two years ago at the minute. We need an improvement in performances and results asap.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: plowman2 on October 19, 2017, 04:02:02 PM
Koeman: We need to beat Lyon

Everton boss Ronald Koeman has expressed the importance of beating Lyon in the Europa League tomorrow night if Everton are to proceed in the competition.


Source: Koeman: We need to beat Lyon (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/10/koeman-need-beat-lyon/)
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You see  this kind of insight that makes him the manager and us the average fan in the street!
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 19, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
Wish people would stop saying this.

We need to start performing well.

We're not going to get a result against Lyon playing poorly.

It's time we started seeing some signs on the pitch that the manager is building towards a cohesive system.

Koeman refuses to use another system, let alone try to build a cohesive one, thats why i know a different manager would get alot more out of our players.. mainly due to changing our style of anti  football into something that will get the fans behind the team. yeah for the first tens mins or so the fans will be behind the team, but once you see the back passing, no ideas, lack of anything style of play.. theres only so much you can keep egging on the team. you just sit there in silence wishing we dont concede.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 19, 2017, 06:49:17 PM
Can we defend?
We concede first every week

yes we concede, as our midfielders can't keep hold of the ball, you have our main outlet/striker on the wing.. whats he supposed to do there? we set up very negatively every match, inviting the other teams to attack us.

Its inevitable we will concede goals if we cant keep the ball up the pitch.
Title: Re: [News]Koeman: We need to beat Lyon
Post by: Hawkandro on October 19, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
No shit, Sherlock. Can see why he gets £6m a year now.