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Title: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Simon Paul on October 20, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
so....


https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/919601095453880321
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:56:57 PM
Away banker this, sad to say
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:58:26 PM
Ugh
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 20, 2017, 04:59:14 PM
Can see it now, Rooney is going to receive the ball out wide by the Paddock touchline where heíll turn inside, look up towards the Park End net and unleash one right footed, into the top corner.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
Is anyone actually enjoying match days anymore? It just feels like work. Can't imagine the joy of handing over hard earned money for the "pleasure" the 2 hours we are wasting is payment enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 20, 2017, 05:10:50 PM
The way we are currently playing we are the perfect team for Arsenal. The type of team they often just turnover without breaking sweat.

We need to follow Watford's lead and get in their faces, make it difficult, but I can't see us playing like that as one of the biggest things we lack at the moment, apart from pace and goal scorers, is aggression and bite*

Start Davies, Vlasic and Lookman, play Sig as the 10. Yes the 3 young chaps will give the ball away (Davies was dispossessed far too much last night) but they appear to play without fear and will drive us forward.




*I must add that running up to the Arsenal home game last season we'd lacked bite and aggression and were getting turned over by shite like Watford and Southampton. It was a turning point in the season, a big game for us under the lights. I was hoping last night would have been this season's arsenal, but maybe it will be the actual arsenal game?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on October 20, 2017, 05:22:31 PM
Can see it now, Rooney is going to receive the ball out wide by the Paddock touchline where heíll turn inside, look up towards the Park End net and unleash one right footed, into the top corner of the stand.

Fixed!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 20, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Obviously Baines, Gana, Rooney, Jagielka will be back in the side as well as Sigurdsson starting

I wonder if he will adopt a dogs of war type mentality and go with the old heads of Jags and Williams at centre back

Also any word on schneiderlin?

                 Pickford

Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines

         Gana Schneiderlin
Mirallas.                         Vlasic
               Sigurdsson
   
                Rooney

Something like this perhaps?we really do need a new striker but for now could we get Rooney as an out and out striker, given his premier league scoring record, as long as we get 2 pacey wide players in the side with him and Sigurdsson looking to link up with him?

I worry about DCL being burned out and losing confidence
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 20, 2017, 05:50:30 PM
Obviously Baines, Gana, Rooney, Jagielka will be back in the side as well as Sigurdsson starting

I wonder if he will adopt a dogs of war type mentality and go with the old heads of Jags and Williams at centre back

Also any word on schneiderlin?

                 Pickford

Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines

         Gana Schneiderlin
Mirallas.                         Vlasic
               Sigurdsson
   
                Rooney

Something like this perhaps?we really do need a new striker but for now could we get Rooney as an out and out striker, given his premier league scoring record, as long as we get 2 pacey wide players in the side with him and Sigurdsson looking to link up with him?

I worry about DCL being burned out and losing confidence

Put Kenny in for Holgate
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 05:53:56 PM
Rooney left us 15 odd years ago when we were shit. He left and we had somewhat of an upturn in fortunes.

He comes back.

We are shit again.

The circle is complete.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 20, 2017, 05:56:27 PM
Pickford

Jagielka ------------ Williams
Kenny -------------------------------------- Baines
Gana or Schneiderlin

Davies

Vlasic ------ Sigurdsson ------ Mirallas
   
Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 05:58:50 PM
Rooney left us 15 odd years ago when we were shit. He left and we had somewhat of an upturn in fortunes.

He comes back.

We are shit again.

The circle is complete.

In our defence he's shit now too. If only some Utd games were on tele so we could have scouted him before we agreed to pay him 7.5m a year
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
In our defence he's shit now too. If only some Utd games were on tele so we could have scouted him before we agreed to pay him 7.5m a year

We can all be shit together.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 20, 2017, 06:04:25 PM
We can all be shit together.

The rejected line from The Frog Song by Paul McCartney
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 06:08:31 PM
The rejected line from The Frog Song by Paul McCartney

I listened to that song for the first time in years yesterday. How weird.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on October 20, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
We can all be shit together.

Bom-Bom.


Fixed for @Brownie20 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=169)

 lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 20, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
0 - 3

They are bollockless, fortunately for them we have no fight in us whatsoever to upset them.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
Is Danny Shittu playing?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 07:49:13 PM
Shit - McCarthy's fit

Could be on the bench
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 20, 2017, 08:32:16 PM
Shit - McCarthy's fit

Could be on the bench
Can't be much worse than Morgan or Gana going forward .imho.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
True
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 09:10:38 PM
Unfortunately this is Arsenal's forte, steamrolling teams who like us right now. They're flat-track bullies.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 09:31:12 PM
Got it down as a draw but after that last night reckon it'll be a repeat of the Man U game. Unless Rooney scores a worldie.....

 :titanic:
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gary1878 on October 20, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
                  Pickford,
   Holgate, Jags, Keane, Baines
Mirallas, Gana, , Davies, Lookman
                   Sigurdsson
                      DCL

We need pace, energy, and something different. The above gives us that. But of course he will play Rooney and we will be crap again with no pace or width.
               
Just to add that it is almost like he is more afraid of losing games than wanting to go out to win them. It is always risk off mode and backs to the wall. Go out and try to beat them, and set up players and tactics accordingly.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Vlasic to start
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 20, 2017, 09:39:43 PM
Would start DCL if they are going to play Mertesacker at CB.

They are pretty much in a bad run of their own and barely look convincing but then you don't need to be convincing to win against us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: boothill on October 20, 2017, 09:52:35 PM
Is anyone actually enjoying match days anymore? It just feels like work. Can't imagine the joy of handing over hard earned money for the "pleasure" the 2 hours we are wasting is payment enough.
hating them, going through the ball ache of swapping shifts, then having to give my premium shifts up to return the favour, and for what ?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: plumber on October 20, 2017, 10:04:35 PM
Vlasic to start
Would start DCL if they are going to play Mertesacker at CB.

Vlasic and DCL ideally should take a break, they will get burnt out if they play 3 games a week. The question is can we afford a luxury to rest them.


When you think about it, our squad is really shit, isn't it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 10:26:40 PM
We will sit back and try and steal a point. 5 at back. Will lose 4-0 still
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 10:31:28 PM
We cannot afford the luxury to rest Vlasic or DCL for this game - maybe against Chelsea on Wednesday

And one's a 20 year old man, he'll cope with it - as will the 19 year old, he'll have to

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 20, 2017, 10:32:35 PM
We will fucking batter these .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 20, 2017, 10:55:54 PM
Expecting him to drop DCL after his lack of goals. Schneiderlin won't be playing, not will Kenny.

Pickford
Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines
Vlasic Gana Davies Sigurdsson
Niasse Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 11:02:07 PM
Colonel Koeman has won all of his home PL games against Arsenal/Wenger

Ronnie's bunnies!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: D15TIN on October 20, 2017, 11:43:29 PM
----------Pickford

Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines

---------Schneiderlin

Vlasic Davies Rooney/Siggy Mirallas

-------------Niasse


Wouldn't mind DCL starting like, Lookman another option too - Think koeman will start with Gana & schneiderlin, & rooney could be the 9
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bluenuck on October 20, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
Don't want to see Rooney anywhere near the field. But I have a feeling he will be the vocal point of everything that goes on and it will make us suffer.

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: D15TIN on October 21, 2017, 12:09:51 AM
Don't want to see Rooney anywhere near the field. But I have a feeling he will be the vocal point of everything that goes on and it will make us suffer.


Koemans already said he's playing sunday ha, I wouldn't play him as the 9 as we definitely wont score - he comes far too deep, theres never anyone in the centre.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: kramer0 on October 21, 2017, 12:16:29 AM
We could do worse than playing last night's lineup with Rooney in place of Klaassen (he's not a great midfield passer but he's better than anyone else we have) and Cuco left behind in the locker room (among other defensive changes).
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2017, 01:13:17 AM
We could do worse than playing last night's lineup with Rooney in place of Klaassen (he's not a great midfield passer but he's better than anyone else we have) and Cuco left behind in the locker room (among other defensive changes).

I would play freaking Davies at RB.  I don't see what we have to lose.

EDIT: Or Lennon, if fit.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: kramer0 on October 21, 2017, 01:13:38 AM
I would play freaking Davies at RB.  I don't see what we have to lose.

Davies in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2017, 01:18:41 AM
Davies in midfield.

If you're playing Rooney next to Gana in the centre, I'd go with more width in the rest of the team.

Vlasic and Sigurdsson setting up DCL and Sandro in a 4-4-2, or start Lookman over DCL or Sandro and go essentially 4-4-1-1
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Juanito on October 21, 2017, 01:35:28 AM
          Pickford
Holgate  Jags Keane Baines
      Gana     Davies
         Sigurdsson
Lookman          Vlasic
           Mirallas

             
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 21, 2017, 01:36:54 AM
so....


https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/919601095453880321

Well done by Paddy Power. That is truly the perfect tagline for our match.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 21, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
Honestly I am afraid this will become a blood bath. 3-0 sounds about right to me.

We just have absolutely nothing in the final third. Every match I just sit there in bewilderment about how we will get a goal or a good shot on target
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 21, 2017, 02:35:28 AM
paddy power is a cunt and he can fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 21, 2017, 03:52:05 AM
I have zero confidence about this game, or any game to b e honest as long as Koeman and his clan continue to steal a wage. We will start off nervous with misplaced passes everywhere, then gradually start to put a couple of moves together, which will win us a corner, followed by a shot into row z, that will fool us all into thinking we are going to get that first goal. Then the inevitable will happen, Arsenal will either score a wonder goal, or we will make another horrendous mistake and we will go on to lose comfortably 3 or 4 nil...sound familiar.

BTW anyone changing their mind about going I'll have your ticket please  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jamokachi on October 21, 2017, 04:36:23 AM
We're gonna win this... but it will be a false dawn. That's my prediction.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bluenuck on October 21, 2017, 04:44:13 AM
We're gonna win this... but it will be a false dawn. That's my prediction.

Aren't they all?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 21, 2017, 04:48:30 AM
Read somewhere that Arsenal have won more points off us than any other team in the premier league era.

Can only imagine theyíll be adding to that total come Sunday.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 21, 2017, 06:32:36 PM
not sure on the formation or team selection ;/ Kenny is out!


Pickford

Holgate
Jagielka
Keane
Baines

Mirallas
Gana
Davies
Vlasic

Rooney or Siggurdson
DcL
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 21, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Struggling to name a half decent side to face these. Hmmm shall I choose this shit cunt to play up front, or that shit cunt? Or that not yet good enough lad? Or that shit cunt to play out wide or that other shit cunt to play out wide? Or that other not ready yet lad? Or that shit cunt in defence or the other, slightly less, shit cunt.

This squad is fucking appalling.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 21, 2017, 07:06:51 PM
Right back could be a real problem as Koeman will probably feel justified to drop Holgate and it sounds like Kenny had been struggling with an injury before.

With Schneiderlin injured, that could mean Davies coming in. I would be content with a Vlasic, Sigurdsson and Mirallas attacking midfield with DCL up front.

I don't want to write off Klaassen but if he is really not up to scratch and struggling enormously then in the meantime he shouldn't make the bench, let his position be taken up by someone else who plays in a similar role but provides more impact, perhaps Besic, McCarthy or even this Beningame lad who seems to be getting some very good reviews.   
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 21, 2017, 07:28:08 PM
the bench is wasted for Klaassen, him and Sandro really need game time to get confidence/some form/used to england.. can only be done in the award winning under 23 side.. they would come back with so much more confidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: kewns23 on October 21, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
All I care about if we do lose will they fucking put him out of his misery and sack him!

Hell out of all managers sack so far I think he's the one that most deserves too go!!

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 21, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
not sure on the formation or team selection ;/ Kenny is out!


Pickford

Holgate
Jagielka
Keane
Baines

Mirallas
Gana
Davies
Vlasic

Rooney or Siggurdson
DcL

About the best side we have without injuries.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 21, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
not sure on the formation or team selection ;/ Kenny is out!


Pickford

Holgate
Jagielka
Keane
Baines

Mirallas
Gana
Davies
Vlasic

Rooney or Siggurdson
DcL
Despite Mirallas Vlasic and Lookman playing with better  forward impetus and attacking width...koeman will revert to no width and a minimum of two no 10s I rekon ...it's really getting harder to get up for it ..and not expect more of the same Martina Williams dros at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 21, 2017, 11:01:18 PM
Please please please no Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Redartin on October 21, 2017, 11:06:54 PM
Am I correct in saying if we lose by 2 or more goals tomorrow we drop into the bottom three?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2017, 11:18:01 PM
Please please please no Rooney

I agree, but the stubborn jackass has already promised in advance there will be.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 21, 2017, 11:21:47 PM
It's odd we're the only team to take points off City this season, as we've been absolutely abysmal. I've gone for a win but broke ranks on whether Koeman should go or not. Last time I did that we tanked someone when Martinez was here. Let's hope for a repeat of that.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2017, 11:36:20 PM
It's odd we're the only team to take points off City this season, as we've been absolutely abysmal. I've gone for a win but broke ranks on whether Koeman should go or not. Last time I did that we tanked someone when Martinez was here. Let's hope for a repeat of that.

We pissed them off, and the rest of the League has been paying the price ever since.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 21, 2017, 11:47:48 PM
Please please please no Rooney

I don't mind Rooney, as long as he dont play the central striker.. but if we play him on either side uptop it means we will lack pace.. midfield is the only position i can see him being a success for us, maybe in a 3 with Gana-Gueye and Tom Davies.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 12:00:07 AM
Win this and we go 13th, win by 7 goals and we're 11th

Believe blues
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 22, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
Absolutely

On the march with Colonel Koeman's army

Keep the faith
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 12:03:31 AM
I don't mind Rooney, as long as he dont play the central striker.. but if we play him on either side uptop it means we will lack pace.. midfield is the only position i can see him being a success for us, maybe in a 3 with Gana-Gueye and Tom Davies.

Yeah, I would try him beside Gana (too little pace beside Schneiderlin - I'd use Davies for that) before I gave up entirely.  As a midfield "box to box" rotation, it's worth a go.  But Koeman wants to center his attack around him, and he won't give up the ghost.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 12:10:13 AM
At least Rooney will have the narrative on his side
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 12:11:16 AM
I don't mind Rooney, as long as he dont play the central striker.. but if we play him on either side uptop it means we will lack pace.. midfield is the only position i can see him being a success for us, maybe in a 3 with Gana-Gueye and Tom Davies.

Rooney plays wherever he wants. That's the problem. He has the discipline of a youth player
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 12:13:15 AM
Rooney plays wherever he wants. That's the problem. He has the discipline of a youth player

You would also have to let him know this is his last chance before his tour of the American minor leagues.  See if it puts his head on straight.  I don't know if Koeman has enough credibility left with the dressing room to do that, but he has to try.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 12:19:05 AM
Absolutely

On the march with Colonel Koeman's army

Keep the faith

Yes!! Thats the spirit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueForYou on October 22, 2017, 12:23:03 AM
Team spirit is what we need (I was going to say a fighting spirit)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 12:24:49 AM
Please please please no Rooney
Didn't mean to like that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 12:29:09 AM
Potential for this to change our season, it almost certainly won't but there's always a tiny bit of me that will believe we can win tomorrow despite everything putting to the opposite.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 12:30:59 AM
Rooney has been one of our better players don't you know. We seem to struggle to know how to utilise him but he's not a major weakness or anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 12:32:36 AM
Iím surprised weíve not seen any Rooney for player-manager shouts yet.

I canít even remember who the last top flight player-manager was...anyone?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 12:34:16 AM
I'm surprised we've not seen any Rooney for player-manager shouts yet.

I can't even remember who the last top flight player-manager was...anyone?
That would be a head wobble shout at best .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 12:37:12 AM
Am I correct in saying if we lose by 2 or more goals tomorrow we drop into the bottom three?

Yup and fearfully I think there may be another team who might be kickstarting their season tomorrow
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 12:42:12 AM
Rooney has been racking up 5s since the opening couple matches of the season, and has been wrecking team shape.  He's surely not the sole culprit, but he's hardly a shining beacon amongst the darkness, either.

You have to move him to midfield, and he has to become more of a team player.  As has been noted before, this why Ferguson started to phase him out.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 12:46:04 AM
Rooney has been racking up 5s since the opening couple matches of the season, and has been wrecking team shape.  He's surely not the sole culprit, but he's hardly a shining beacon amongst the darkness, either.

You have to move him to midfield, and he has to become more of a team player.  As has been noted before, this why Ferguson started to phase him out.
Ferguson played him every week. Built a team around him
Played him wherever he could.

You dont like or rate rooney, we all get that. He's been decent for us this season tho

He's a better cf than dcl, in a different way
He's cleverer than sigurdsson in the no ten role
He's a better pass of the ball than schneiderlin, gueye and Davies from deep

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: piggypop on October 22, 2017, 12:53:41 AM
Rooney has been racking up 5s since the opening couple matches of the season, and has been wrecking team shape.  He's surely not the sole culprit, but he's hardly a shining beacon amongst the darkness, either.

You have to move him to midfield, and he has to become more of a team player.  As has been noted before, this why Ferguson started to phase him out.
I don't understand this myth of Rooney in midfield. He was shit when he played there for United. He was shit when he played there for England.

He should be on the bench at best. He was done at United and he's still done here. Romance counts for nothing in football. A shame, but there it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 12:54:58 AM
It's not just me, everyone scoring matches (here and in the media) have been giving out the 5s.  He no longer has the pace to roam all over the pitch and still be effective, but he wants to play like he's still 25.  He can't.  He could still be a very effective player (likely in midfield, I agree with your 3rd sentence/assertion) if he would accept the role and be disciplined.  But he wants to play "hero ball" and just do whatever the hell he wants.  It's doing nobody any good.

Sigurdsson with space to operate (and no Rooney on the pitch) was much more effective creating for others than Rooney has been all season.  Still not convinced the two can play together, but we haven't really tried Rooney playing in midfield behind Sigurdsson.

So...we should try that before we give up completely.  But Sigurdsson is part of the near-medium future of Everton, and it's more important to get him settled than it is to play out sentimental fantasies.  If Rooney can't play with Sigurdsson, it's clear who needs to be dropped (from a footballing standpoint).
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 12:56:45 AM
I don't understand this myth of Rooney in midfield. He was shit when he played there for United. He was shit when he played there for England.

He should be on the bench at best. He was done at United and he's still done here. Romance counts for nothing in football. A shame, but there it is.

Was he shit because he couldn't do it, or shit because he didn't want to do it?  That's where being a strong manager has to come into play.  Because he can't be a lone striker anymore, and it would be madness for him to displace Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 01:01:45 AM
McCarthy fit, worth a start?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 01:09:00 AM
McCarthy fit, worth a start?

we're pretty desperate, I wouldn't be surprised (I also wouldn't do it)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: piggypop on October 22, 2017, 01:13:07 AM
Was he shit because he couldn't do it, or shit because he didn't want to do it?  That's where being a strong manager has to come into play.  Because he can't be a lone striker anymore, and it would be madness for him to displace Sigurdsson.
At the time he was saying it was where he saw himself playing to continue his career at the top, so I'd guess it's safe to say that he couldn't do it to a high enough level.
If we insist on shoe-Horning him into the side with Sigurdsson, then hasn't Sigurdsson played centre mid quite successfully for Iceland?

Personally, I'd much rather have Davies in there with his movement and forward running. Even when he's not in top form he gives us something different than any other player we have.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 01:18:31 AM
Ferguson played him every week. Built a team around him
Played him wherever he could.

You dont like or rate rooney, we all get that. He's been decent for us this season tho

He's a better cf than dcl, in a different way
He's cleverer than sigurdsson in the no ten role
He's a better pass of the ball than schneiderlin, gueye and Davies from deep
He may well be better than all those you mentioned, but he's old enough to know he can't play all over the pitch to the detriment of the team ....yet he does it every game without fail ....and it's cost us a few times already .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 01:24:53 AM
At the time he was saying it was where he saw himself playing to continue his career at the top, so I'd guess it's safe to say that he couldn't do it to a high enough level.
If we insist on shoe-Horning him into the side with Sigurdsson, then hasn't Sigurdsson played centre mid quite successfully for Iceland?

Personally, I'd much rather have Davies in there with his movement and forward running. Even when he's not in top form he gives us something different than any other player we have.

I'd start Davies beside Schneiderlin for sure, might give Rooney a shot when Gana starts.  If it doesn't work, go with Davies full time with Klaassen backing Davies up.  Rooney as a reserve for Sigurdsson or to give us a 2nd striker late.

But Sigurdsson is the future, and needs space to operate (as we saw mid-week).  Need to build around that, see what we have.  At least give him a solid 2-month run.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 01:51:39 AM
He may well be better than all those you mentioned, but he's old enough to know he can't play all over the pitch to the detriment of the team ....yet he does it every game without fail ....and it's cost us a few times already .
Cos he wants to be on the ball
How many other players do we have that want it?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 01:55:03 AM
Cos he wants to be on the ball
How many other players do we have that want it?
Yes but again it's to the detriment of the team ....lookman Mirra DCL Sig as well as others all want the ball but a nomad Rooney stops them getting it when he plays with no discipline on the toes of other players imho.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 02:00:02 AM
Yes but again it's to the detriment of the team ....lookman Mirra DCL Sig as well as others all want the ball but a nomad Rooney stops them getting it when he plays with no discipline on the toes of other players imho.
Really don't get the lookman love in
He does well for five mins then disappears
Mirallas plays in fits and starts
Dcl isn't the answer, he Should be brought through over time rather than every game
Does sigurdsson want the ball? He want set pieces but he's hardly showing all game
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Simon Paul on October 22, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
Lookman is more likely to grow into a game than Mirallas. We've watched Mirallas do this for five years or so now. Lookman is younger and adapting to what is a huge step up from charlton.

The rest is bob on though
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:07:38 AM
Koeman really needs ro win this....lost points should have gained so needs to try and redress the balance a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 02:09:24 AM
Rooney has been one of our better players don't you know. We seem to struggle to know how to utilise him but he's not a major weakness or anything.

This is correct. But he makes us worse as a unit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 02:11:42 AM
Really don't get the lookman love in
He does well for five mins then disappears
Mirallas plays in fits and starts
Dcl isn't the answer, he Should be brought through over time rather than every game
Does sigurdsson want the ball? He want set pieces but he's hardly showing all game
Thing is given any amount time both those you mentioned would improve our shape as they did Thursday, Lookman and mirallas have largely been left out by Koeman while he opts for no width or pace ,while three players falling over each other as AMC ...as for Sig remove the Rooney wall and he will thrive ...as we have seen on the rare occasion he's been aloud the space as a ten .imho.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:12:35 AM
Team for me...pickford, Kenny, keane, jags, Baines, gueye, McCarthy, sig, vlasic, kev, Rooney.

Not the best but we don't have much to work with and holgate, Williams, Morgan, dcl need to sit this out as they have been dreadful for a while now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 02:16:02 AM
This is correct. But he makes us worse as a unit
He's terrible but better than dcl who brings nowt to the table yet at this level.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 02:16:21 AM
McCarthy fit, worth a start?

It would give us a new formation....

                   Pickford
Holgate     Keane      Jags     Baines
            Gana      Schneiderlin
            McCarthy    Davies           
                    Rooney 
                      DCL

Would be the narrowest team we have ever put out.

Note - This is in no way the team I want.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 02:20:18 AM
It would give us a new formation....

                   Pickford
Holgate     Keane      Jags     Baines
            Gana      Schneiderlin
            McCarthy    Davies           
                    Rooney 
                      DCL

Would be the narrowest team we have ever put out.

Note - This is in no way the team I want.

Trying our hardest for a scoreless draw, that!  I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 22, 2017, 02:46:35 AM
Pickford
Holgate Keane Williams Baines
Gana
Lennon Davies Mirallas
Sigurdsson
DCL

Just throw this at the pitch, see if it sticks.  Doing that anyway isn't he?  Lennon is capable defensively in support of Holgate, as well as offering a bit of spark going forward.  If we're chasing it late on, then get Lookman on.  Or vice versa. 
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 04:14:08 AM
Looking at the underwhelming options after the dosh spent it's fucking criminal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TSGun on October 22, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
Strangely confident of a good result in this game.

Arsenal are hardly setting the world on fire and have their own issues to contend with.

Despite the gloom surrounding us at the moment if we can muster an ounce of belief it's not beyond us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 06:41:52 AM
Actually looking forward to this still, despite the shit webe been served up...I will be in the park end tomoz shouting blue murder ...as is the norm
COYB.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 22, 2017, 09:58:23 AM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 22, 2017, 10:00:10 AM
Expecting him to drop DCL after his lack of goals. Schneiderlin won't be playing, not will Kenny.

Pickford
Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines
Vlasic Gana Davies Sigurdsson
Niasse Rooney

I would absolutely love to see this type of lineup. NO SCHNEIDERLIN
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:28:35 AM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver


FFS mate. Did you just find out you support Everton?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:29:26 AM
Seriously tho. Hope we playing 3 at the back. Let's get solid, let's get difficult to break down and let's hope we can score from a set piece.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver

You had a drink Stealth? haha
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 12:35:39 PM
You had a drink Stealth? haha

Lol sounds like he's just sobered up to me  :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Toddacelli on October 22, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver

Shit man - I was waiting on you for our rallying cry!

I was waiting to hear you say how to do these 5-1 would be so Everton and Mertesacker looks fucking gash since his return (no offence @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) ) and how all the off-field stuff has really unsettled Arsenal and we turned a corner showing some fight for the shirt on Thursday and fucking COME ON YOU BLUES THESE ARE SHITE!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 22, 2017, 02:04:08 PM
Haha whoops yeah I posted that when I'd had a few to be fair. I'm sure the reality of a beautiful win today will change my outlook on things though!

Only a few days ago I thought we were gonna batter Lyon and turn our season around

Today might be the day the comeback really happens!sorry for the negativity guys and gals!

We can do Arsenal!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Escla on October 22, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver

Well I reckon we will do the treble in 2052 !  Oops, but you will just miss that though won't you  :shock:
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 22, 2017, 04:44:40 PM
Looking back at how poor we were up to this game last season defeats to Norwich , Bournemouth , Burnley , Chelsea , Southampton and Watford and just a point off Swansea and Palace . I remember the crowd getting behind the team and creating an immense atmosphere that I think unsettled Arsenal . Hope we get the same again and the start point for most fans will be Koeman getting his team selection right . It could be his last throw of the dice .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
Looking back at how poor we were up to this game last season defeats to Norwich , Bournemouth , Burnley , Chelsea , Southampton and Watford and just a point off Swansea and Palace . I remember the crowd getting behind the team and creating an immense atmosphere that I think unsettled Arsenal . Hope we get the same again and the start point for most fans will be Koeman getting his team selection right . It could be his last throw of the dice .
A few staunch tackles early would see the crowd up on its feet.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Escla on October 22, 2017, 04:55:34 PM
Right, Besic and Mcarthy it is then for the first ten minutes !
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Goaljira on October 22, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
Basically it's grim as Fuck isn't it?

We're not 1 or 2 players from sorting things out, we are miles off

It's sad like but I'm 34 years old. When I'm 68, which is double my age. Everton football club will have the same amount of honours, the only difference is that we might be a division or 2 lower

We're not winning fuck all again in the rest of my life. There's literally no reason to stick around, but I will do, like a Fucking mug with no light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to

It's basically totally shite being an Evertonian, they owe us all so fucking much but they never deliver

That's some impressive spelling and punctuation control for a post saturday night out post.  Well, apart from the missing full stops.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
Fair to say I have low expectations for this one.  I think Mirallas and Vlasic have to start.  Rooney too obviously.  Still can't see where the goals are coming from though.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
We'll get beat. Arsenal should've beat Watford easily and were cheated, and Watford are a much better team than us. Also, Arsenal have taken more points off us than any other Prem team. Also, we're garbage.

How's that for a rallying cry?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 05:53:40 PM
I think we will win ...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gwells on October 22, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Really fancy we will scrape a win today 2-1 DCL and Rooney.........
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
                            Pickford
           Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines
                 Davies Gana Sigurdsson
                Lookman Niasse Vlasic

Stekelenburg, Williams, McCarthy, Rooney, Mirallas, Calvert-Lewin, Sandro
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: AllyBlue14 on October 22, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
I just can't see it unfortunately. We're both in poor form but at the end of the day, Arsenal have good players. Going forward, we're relying on:

Rooney (who spends more time going back)
DCL (who'll be playing right wing-back)
Mirallas (who'll likely go missing, if he even plays)
Lookman (bench)
Klaassen (jury's out, but he's hardly pulling up any trees)
Sandro (keep running lad)
Sigurdsson (thank God for all those free kicks we're scoring now)
Niasse (our one true hope, but we can only bring him on after 70 minutes and hope something bounces off his arse)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
Kenny at RWB
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 06:17:33 PM
Kenny at RWB

Is this a wish or a rumour, mate?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 06:18:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Tony_Scott11/status/922059431776522240
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 06:24:14 PM
Be surprised if Baines can perform what is required in that position.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 06:31:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922062645964034049
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Is that 5 at the back and 'you other 5 just run around up front somewhere'?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Davies back to bench warming.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 06:33:48 PM
So going back with the formation against the big club which always means we lose.

At least I should get max points on the prediction league.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 06:34:14 PM
Team for today.



https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922062645964034049



Didn't see it had been posted :)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922062645964034049

Cor, odd old shape, that. 😳

I'd be very surprised if we get many forays forward from Baines.

I can't see us having much possession or control of the midfield either.

With three/five at the back I would've tried:


                         Pickford
               Keane Williams Jagielka
        Kenny Davies Sigurdsson Baines
         Lookman Calvert-Lewin Vlasic

Stekelenburg, Holgate, Gana, McCarthy, Rooney, Niasse, Sandro
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 06:38:12 PM
Robles on the bench. First time this season?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: D3blue on October 22, 2017, 06:40:49 PM
Good to see Rooney in midfield...a little bit hopeful...fool that i am
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
Let's just get this over with, we're going to roll over here. Koeman will keep his job and the fume levels will be so high.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Goaljira on October 22, 2017, 06:42:21 PM
Explains why Gueye was rested Thursday if he's being expected to play midfield on his own today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 06:43:52 PM
I like that team
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 06:45:21 PM
Poor Davies, plus I'd rather have Holgate on the bench than Martina.

And I see Koeman has kept true to his word of moving one of most effective wingers in recent weeks right into the centre of the pitch. Fuck knows how the front 5 will play.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
Robles on the bench. First time this season?

Heís so clueless weíll bring him on upfront in the second half.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 06:47:35 PM
McCarthy is fit and still not in the squad
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
Don't mind the formation, if that's the way its lines up then it's wrong.

Vlasic isn't a CM, swap him with Rooney (who also isn't a CM).
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
I like the shape and team,, just dont understand Vlasic as a CM instead of Davies.. lol wtf is that about..
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: plumber on October 22, 2017, 06:51:18 PM
I like that team

Me too. It's not a bad idea to use wingbacks when you don't have decent wingers.
Not sure it will serve the purpose, but at least it's something different.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: dazfrancis on October 22, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Feel that we're likely to get overrun in midfield today
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 06:54:18 PM
Poor Davies, plus I'd rather have Holgate on the bench than Martina.

And I see Koeman has kept true to his word of moving one of most effective wingers in recent weeks right into the centre of the pitch. Fuck knows how the front 5 will play.

LOL

Koeman ' if you perform well in your position, i will move you into the centre of the pitch'

Holgate should be on the bench, if one of our 3 cb's get injured we dont have  CB on  the bench.. plus i would actually start Holgate, let him get used to playing, those mistakes he makes will go away with game time.

i'd play Davies too, probably dropping Rooney. and playing Siggy next to DCL. glad we have 2 wingers on the bench tho.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
It's a decent lineup although I imagine Rooney will drop in and Vlasic will go forward more.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jamokachi on October 22, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
The shape won't be like that tweet has it. That's just the social media team putting names down where they think they'll play... they don't know. They had Holgate at LB the other day ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Mac934 on October 22, 2017, 06:57:13 PM
Ferguson played him every week. Built a team around him
Played him wherever he could.

You dont like or rate rooney, we all get that. He's been decent for us this season tho

He's a better cf than dcl, in a different way
He's cleverer than sigurdsson in the no ten role
He's a better pass of the ball than schneiderlin, gueye and Davies from deep
Agreed, but, he tries to do all three at the same time.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Goaljira on October 22, 2017, 06:58:08 PM
The shape won't be like that tweet has it. That's just the social media team putting names down where they think they'll play... they don't know. They had Holgate at LB the other day ffs.

If he'd played left back he wouldnt have been in the position to give away the pen.

Give the twitter person the managers job!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 06:59:04 PM
We get overrun in midfield with Gueye and Schneiderlin playing, maybe with a more mobile player like Vlasic we might retain a bit more composure. He's showed an ability to hold the ball well something which Davies seems to lack right now. Davies seems to play at his best much further forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
The shape won't be like that tweet has it. That's just the social media team putting names down where they think they'll play... they don't know. They had Holgate at LB the other day ffs.

To be fair to the social media team, Koeman might actually be playing Calvert Lewin at right wing back and Gana as a number 10.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
sky all over the Spurs Shite game already, here comes the 10 mins discussion of us v the arse now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
sky all over the Spurs Shite game already, here comes the 10 mins discussion of us v the arse now

They do that for every early kick off and people complain before every early kick off
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:10:52 PM
Rebecca Lowe, paraphrased: "I never played, gentlemen...so can you tell me WTF I am missing as to why Davies isn't on the pitch?"
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:14:01 PM
Heís so clueless weíll bring him on upfront in the second half.

C'mon man talk sense, he'll bring him on as a number 10.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:14:29 PM
Davies hasn't really played enough agreed but he's hardly putting performances in that scream start me either.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:15:27 PM
Another mishmash of nothingness in the midfield and forward positions. Awful selection.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:16:42 PM
Davies hasn't really played enough agreed but he's hardly putting performances in that scream start me either.

At least he has a heart, won't hide and won't stop running, how many of those players picked ahead of him can say that.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Has he???

https://twitter.com/MurrayBoxing/status/922073895481602049
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:17:18 PM
Another mishmash of nothingness in the midfield and forward positions. Awful selection.

If you want positives, it seems evidence that his position is tenuous and he knows it.  Everything against the wall, except of course he starts Rooney in attack because he'll die on that hill.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:17:24 PM
Davies is not the answer to everything
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:18:26 PM
At least he has a heart, won't hide and won't stop running, how many of those players picked ahead of him can say that.

Vlasic who actually has been picked ahead of him?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:19:26 PM
If you want positives, it seems evidence that his position is tenuous and he knows it.  Everything against the wall, except of course he starts Rooney in attack because he'll die on that hill.

That and he's been a striker since he was sixteen. I know he isn't the best in that position but stop talking like it's some sort of outlandish selection when we've got Niasse on the fucking bench!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:20:22 PM
Working streams kids?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:21:32 PM
Has he???

https://twitter.com/MurrayBoxing/status/922073895481602049

No idea, surely not?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:22:19 PM
Vlasic who actually has been picked ahead of him?

No problem with Vlasic playing, Davies offers more than Schneiderlin this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:22:43 PM
Robbie Earle slating Koeman, talking up Silva...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:22:53 PM
Not a big fan of this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 07:24:06 PM
choice of streams

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/77zlnu/1230_gmt_everton_vs_arsenal/

520p no popups or ads stream http://www.navixsport.com/sport.php?id=3105

720p 2 ads nsbc stream http://www.genti.stream/hd1.php

SD mobile stream no ads. http://www.tuganix.com/forum/live/skyme.php

some sopcast linksw (both Russian)

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/140544 [HD]
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/151777 [HD]


English acestream://8c9e7676105b3d3b411380897fa913e43fb4eed7
English  acestream://f01dd99ffaa3b1d271ff1f14cc57ecb38a86dbbb
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/

Just bookmark this and you'll never need to ask for a stream again.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:26:48 PM
Sorry about the error it should have read Davies offers more than Schneiderlin this season, I like Schneiderlin but think he has been awful this season. Anyway prove me wrong Koeman, give us something to be excited about, even if it's not the result give us a performance.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:27:34 PM
Has he???

https://twitter.com/MurrayBoxing/status/922073895481602049

Haha, he makes Moyes seem like Mr.Motivator.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: keverton1971 on October 22, 2017, 07:28:26 PM
http://www.streamcomando.com/en/stream/everton-fc-arsenal-fc-191220/hd-eng-8/
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
sky all over the Spurs Shite game already, here comes the 10 mins discussion of us v the arse now

I do find it a bit odd that given they both played much earlier this week weíre playing the earlier game.

I get why, but it shouldnít be that way.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 07:29:58 PM
Sky showing Rooney in midfield.

Fucking hell no. Please no.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:30:45 PM
C'mon Everton
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
well...here we go.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:32:16 PM
looks like we have some real Merseyside weather today?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
like a hot knife through butter, that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 07:33:17 PM
Damn. Inches away from being right on the first scorer.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
Should already be 1-0 but for Pickford.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:33:47 PM
That was embarrassingly easy for them. Should be 0-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 07:34:06 PM
Sky showing Rooney in midfield.

Fucking hell no. Please no.

NBC have him up front with DCL.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:34:16 PM
looks like we have some real Merseyside weather today?

All over the Uk mate. Grim as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:34:25 PM
Looking good 👌🏼
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:35:09 PM
We make it look so easy for other teams, yet so hard for ourselves to create those type of openings.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 07:35:16 PM
NBC have him up front with DCL.
Given the way he plays theyíre both probably right
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:35:20 PM
Ha, couldíve been a penalty there. Very clumsy.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:35:21 PM
...wtf was that for defending
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:35:24 PM
All over the Uk mate. Grim as fuck.

properly sets the mood, at least
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
Jesus think we need a goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
Defence with more holes than Swiss cheese.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Ha, couldíve been a penalty there. Very clumsy.

it was so odd, the ref was confused and swallowed his whistle
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
Acres in that central midfield area.

Didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
Arsenal had more shots on goal in 7 minutes than we've managed all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: keverton1971 on October 22, 2017, 07:37:44 PM
http://www.navixsport.com/sport.php?id=3105&page=nlslksslkayslkla
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:38:34 PM
Flat track bullies, meet the flattest track you could ever want to see
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
We look very nervous, need to settle fast.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 07:38:50 PM
We are the home team...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:38:55 PM
Just turned it on. Reading the comments..... I take it weve started dreadfully?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 07:39:23 PM
Yeah deffo the home team
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
Pickford wow !
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:39:35 PM
Pickford magic there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:40:22 PM
Lucky not to be already out of this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
Great save but by God we are shite. Just wide open spaces. Its saying theyve been superb but we could form an 11 that can pass it about under no pressure
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
What a fucking save
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
Pickford brilliant again must think he's still at Sunderland
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
Commentator got Liverpool on his mind...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 07:40:52 PM
Pickford a positive
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 07:41:36 PM
Canít seem to lay a glove on them in midfield
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:41:42 PM
Rioooneyyyyyy
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 07:41:45 PM
Rooneyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:41:47 PM
We are losing central midfield. Maybe revert you a back four?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Commentator got Liverpool on his mind...

Yeah, he must have accidentally looked down at his Liverpool Annual while he was talking.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:41:50 PM
ha, GET IN!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 07:41:56 PM
Have that!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
Should've passed that. Greedy bastard 😜
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:42:07 PM
Wow. 1-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 07:42:09 PM
What a fucking goal
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Wayne Fucking Rooney. Remember the name
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Shut up all you Rooney critics.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 07:42:28 PM
GERRRRRRINNN
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:42:36 PM
Haha what a fucking goal. Brilliant Rooney brilliant Gueye (though Im not sure he actually got the ball)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:42:42 PM
Boom. Great from gueye and Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
Wow! Arsenal huffing and puffing but we score first haha!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
You beauty!!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 07:42:57 PM
Didn't expect that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 22, 2017, 07:43:04 PM
Can see it now, Rooney is going to receive the ball out wide by the Paddock touchline where heíll turn inside, look up towards the Park End net and unleash one right footed, into the top corner.

Wrong area of the pitch but who gives a fuck!

👌🏻
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:43:05 PM
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEY! <3
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:43:35 PM
was a very nice goal
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
Rooney...that's why!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
Not bad wayne. Not bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:43:52 PM
We need a bit of luck when weíre playing with such little confidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 22, 2017, 07:44:02 PM
Defence with more holes than Swiss cheese.

What is the point of Gana/Schneiderlin if they can gallop ..... NEVERNIND GET IN GET IN GET IN WAZZA GET IN

Can I just say as I've been saying for weeks - Rooney must start every game!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
Let this be the catalyst.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
That's were he should be up front, fuckin Tazer him if he come back in our half
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
Fuck me my streams behind.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Basketball game this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
End to end stuff this!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:45:04 PM
Didn't see that coming!

Amazing what some pressing can do.

Wenger will obviously say it was a foul from Gana, but if you put pressure on you will get breaks like that.

Excellent finish from Rooney.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Fair challenge by Gueye
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:45:46 PM
Williams walking a tightrope again.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
Thatís a harsh yellow.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:46:09 PM
They are cutting right through is still. Weve got to be more compact
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
Is that goodison I can hear, it's been that long
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:46:34 PM
Ffs williams
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:46:47 PM
somebody needs to mark Ramsey, for Christ's sake
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:47:15 PM
Pickford and Rooney are quality...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:48:06 PM
Asking a lot of Pickford this afternoon
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:48:16 PM
I was happy with three at the back and at least we have some sort of plan today
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:48:21 PM
They look like they're going to score every time they enter our half. We might need to score 5 to win this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 07:48:47 PM
Why are we so open
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gumpinio on October 22, 2017, 07:49:00 PM
Shades of the City game.  I just hope we can hold out a little longer this time
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:49:13 PM
Never get the all 11 back for a corner setup. No chance to break.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
At least everyone is showing real commitment. Pickfords outstanding
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:49:42 PM
Asking a lot of Pickford this afternoon

We did pay 30M for him. Not unreasonable
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 22, 2017, 07:50:03 PM
When we attack there's just too much space between the defence and Gana, either one of the defender needs to step up or one of Gana or sig need to occupy that space. There's just too much space and indecision there right now for arsenal to exploit.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Why are we so open

No Davies or Schneiderlin, we haven't played 3 at the back effectively in my living memory.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:51:55 PM
Fair play, Sigurdsson and Rooney played well together there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:52:32 PM
Baines has got to attack that header more.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:52:53 PM
We did pay 30M for him. Not unreasonable

He certainly needs to earn his dough this week.  Could do with a little help from the 2 lines in front of him though.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:52:57 PM
Great to see Baines up the pitch.

Williams is likely to get sent-off today.

Wish we had another CB on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:52:59 PM
No Davies or Schneiderlin, we haven't played 3 at the back effectively in my living memory.

The only time we have looked ok was 3 at the back. First half against Stoke when we led and here. Normally we like this but with no hope attacking
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:53:15 PM
We look good.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
Baines pussied out on that far post header
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:53:33 PM
Sigurddsson looking very good
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:53:34 PM
Vlasic is a player
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 07:53:36 PM
Amazing seeing some pressure on the ball
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
Great run Vlas.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:54:18 PM
Gueye is on fire here
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:54:21 PM
Should be a booking for Bellenderin
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
Mad game this. Like watching summat from the 70s.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 07:54:46 PM
Vlasic, gotta appreciate the directness.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:55:04 PM
Gueye has been brilliant so far. Won so much ball. We look an attacking threat too. Just a bit worrying when they have it
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:55:10 PM
Gueye isn't quite Kante level of awesomesauce, but he does a good impression.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:55:28 PM
Great strength from Calvert-Lewin there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 07:55:30 PM
Who's got a hard on for the Vlad?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:55:47 PM
Mad game this. Like watching summat from the 70s.

Loving it tho
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
Gueye isn't quite Kante level of awesomesauce, but he does a good impression.

Haha, awesomesauce
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
Still dodgy defensively but we look far better with the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 07:57:01 PM
Vlasic is such a player
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 07:57:06 PM
Lovely Vlas !!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
How good is Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:57:12 PM
Absolutely loving vlasic !
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 07:57:26 PM
Vlasic rapidly becoming my favourite player
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:57:27 PM
If we played with this intensity majority of the time, Koeman wouldn't be as hated as he is right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
Fuck me how good is Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:58:15 PM
Who is their left back. No idea but commentator seems to pronounce his name and does it every chance he gets
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 07:58:17 PM
So much more Everton this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 07:58:42 PM
Gueye isn't quite Kante level of awesomesauce, but he does a good impression.
He's brilliant
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
Can we give Vlasic a payrise and extend his contract quick.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
Done well Vlasic but the wrong pass. Hope he learns that wuickly
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
I'm gay for Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 07:58:52 PM
Vlasic is my new fave
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 07:58:58 PM
Vlasic surprises me more and more. Really like that lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 07:59:20 PM
Who is their left back. No idea but commentator seems to pronounce his name and does it every chance he gets

Isnt he the 1 we tried to sign on a free in the summer
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
Who is their left back. No idea but commentator seems to pronounce his name and does it every chance he gets

Kolasinic. We tried to get him but he chose the Arse.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
Jags defended Sanchez quite well there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
Vlasic surprises me more and more. Really like that lad.
Little bit of hazard about him...early days though
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:00:46 PM
Got to take Williams off.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:00:58 PM
Wankers trying to get Williams sent off.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:01:27 PM
Williams is going to cost us. Can see a red for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 08:01:31 PM
Fuck off Sanchez, wee cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:01:35 PM
I'd change williams he's an accident waiting to happen
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
Surely that's simulation? He's up in th air before Williams touches him
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:01:41 PM
Williams, going to be lucky to last 90 mins here.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:01:48 PM
Its a dive too
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:01:57 PM
Wankers trying to get Williams sent off.

A few Everton players hoping for the same.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:01:57 PM
You could put Davies on for Ash and change the shape.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:02:43 PM
Ref starting to give them everything
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:02:53 PM
Dodgy ref this.. anything could happen.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:02:55 PM
Willams red is an inevitability here.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:02:55 PM
Williams playing fine, but no doubt he's a marked man after Thursday.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:03:09 PM
You could put Davies on for Ash and change the shape.

The shape is why we winning
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:04:00 PM
The shape is why we winning

But we won't win with 10 men.  Or with Cuco.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:04:20 PM
Really not feeling the Sig at the minute. Not offering anything really game by game.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:04:23 PM
Gueye on a tightrope now.:(
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
Gana will be susceptible to a sending-off now that he is the only central midfielder.

Get Williams off and Davies on.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
I'm getting that feeling we will get fucked over by a terrible decision today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:05:08 PM
But we won't win with 10 men.  Or with Cuco.

We playing aggressively. We have no other cb on the bench. Have to be smart about things
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:05:45 PM
Gana will be susceptible to a sending-off now that he is the only central midfielder.

Get Williams off and Davies on.

This, Davies will relieve some of the pressure.  We have no chance without Gana.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
Would love to of seen Usmanov next to Moshiri.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:07:03 PM
This, Davies will relieve some of the pressure.  We have no chance without Gana.

We have little chance with 10 men.

We have no chance whatsover with 9.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:07:07 PM
You'll never see the Mosh and Vic Reeves together.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
DCL doing a decent job.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:07:46 PM
Shape is terrible.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
We have little chance with 10 men.

We have no chance whatsover with 9.

Just as trivia, when was the last time we were down to 9?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
Gana needs to steady on now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
Twat
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:09:42 PM
That's fucked it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 08:10:01 PM
That was coming wasn't it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:10:07 PM
Was coming.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:10:14 PM
SHIT
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:10:21 PM
Pickford has to do better. Poor keeping
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:10:27 PM
merde.  That was coming, I guess.  Nobody stepped up other than Bainesy.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
That was coming. Pickford almost with a wonder save.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:10:50 PM
Bollocks
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:11:06 PM
Pickford should have done better there. Was having a good game too till then.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
Shambles every time they get the ball. We were told Koeman could organise a team, at bare minimum.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:11:16 PM
floodgates could open now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:11:59 PM
Shame we couldnít get to HT. With our fragile confidence we needed some extra luck.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
This long diagonal to DCL is grim

Fair enough try it from time to time but you can't build every attack on it.

Also, Rooney has given the ball away in dangerous positions a few times now with lazy passes
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:12:32 PM
Would've been 2 or 3 nil down but for Pickford though, so he can be forgiven a minor error.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:12:42 PM
Stream crapped out for their goal. I'm blaming the internet for it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bluestevie on October 22, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
Can't say Arsenal don't deserve it, just need to keep the heads up now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:12:53 PM
It had to be a dodgy cunt like Monreal too, didn't it?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Pickford should have done better there. Was having a good game too till then.

Like what exactly?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
5 defenders and we're wide open
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
Not having the keeper baring the blame for that. Mad men. Twatted it from about 5 yards out
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
It's not a shambles at all, Arsenal always dominate possession we've shown grit and an ability to do something on the break. This is a decent half against a much more talented side
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:13:36 PM
Would've been 2 or 3 nil down but for Pickford though, so he can be forgiven a minor error.

Wasnít Pickfordís fault for that goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:13:37 PM
Gana is so exposed here.

He's gone from lining-up with 2/3 defensive central midfielders to only one.

Very strange.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:13:59 PM
Pickford must feel like he's never left Sunderland. 16 attempts on our goal already.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:14:14 PM
Like what exactly?

Like not push the first save out into the middle of our own box. Yes it takes a deflection but its still very close to him.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:14:23 PM
Weíre so shit arenít we. Boot Koeman, offer Barkley his contract again and get someone in who knows how to set up a football team.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:14:29 PM
Stones Sanchez 1-on-1, Pickford single-handedly has kept us in the match
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
Pickford couldnt do fuck all about that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
Getting whipped now, not good enough
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:15:12 PM
Would've been 2 or 3 nil down but for Pickford though, so he can be forgiven a minor error.
Kenny fell asleep and let Monreal run in
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:15:42 PM
Sanchez is a horrible cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:15:43 PM
Like not push the first save out into the middle of our own box. Yes it takes a deflection but its still very close to him.

I think that's very harsh. The speed that came in at with the deflection, I think he did all he could.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:15:45 PM
We were getting whipped before the goal, people just chose not to notice cos we scored out of the blue.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:16:21 PM
We are still showing Balls, but Rooney dropping deep again where he gets in the fucking way and leaves DCL alone.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 08:16:50 PM
Centre mids pick it up and look wide and there's nobody there and they end up having to run into trouble
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:16:54 PM
One goal against the run of play, solid defence for about 15 minutes.  Not good enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Sanchez is a bit of a cunt isnt he
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 08:17:45 PM
We were getting whipped before the goal, people just chose not to notice cos we scored out of the blue.

Fair

"Getting whipped from the start, not good enough"

Fixed my misguided comment
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:17:57 PM
Kenny fell asleep and let Monreal run in

Nah. It was just fortunate it fell at his feet. You canít follow a player just in case it might end up at his feet when the ball is nowhere near him to start with.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
Sanchez is a horrible cunt

He's Suarez-lite.

Amazing player, absolute winner but absolute cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
We're so shit aren't we. Boot Koeman, offer Barkley his contract again and get someone in who knows how to set up a football team.

We conceded a goal. It happens. Get yourself a spine
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:18:58 PM
Dopey pot headed ref
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:19:04 PM
Sanchez has got a right strop on today
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:19:14 PM
Best half of the season so far, look vulnerable at the back but at least we finally look dangerous up top as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gumpinio on October 22, 2017, 08:19:23 PM
We had one shot on target, they had nine.  Pickford is earning his keep today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 08:19:40 PM
Also where did two minutes of added time come from?  No subs or injuries.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 08:19:40 PM
Been open defensively all match, if it weren't for Pickford heroics then we'd be four down.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 22, 2017, 08:19:47 PM
Our shape hasn't been good. Also Rooney (apart from the goal) and Sig have been poor so far according to me.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:20:17 PM
He's Suarez-lite.

Amazing player, absolute winner but absolute cunt

So more a rumblecunt than thundercunt?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 08:20:19 PM
We're shite as a unit.

But Vlasic looks a player.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
We conceded a goal. It happens. Get yourself a spine

It's more that we should've conceded 5 but for Pickford/poor finishing.

Your loyalty to Koeman is delusional.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 08:21:01 PM
amazing its 1 all, its like watching a slow car crash this, absolutely being cut to ribbons
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 08:21:27 PM
Odds on Giroud getting the winner?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
Much better commitment from the players today. It's a substantial improvement on the Burnley game. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:21:37 PM
On balance, we were lucky that half as it couldíve been worse.

We did at least play in some patches, but still not really creating much.

Rooney needs to stay in that area where he scored.

Arsenal much more likely to score a second than we are though.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 08:21:40 PM
Been open defensively all match, if it weren't for Pickford heroics then we'd be four down.

I don't mean to cause anyone nightmares, but what a difference having a good quality keeper makes - imagine if we still had Tim Howard in goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 08:22:17 PM
Sanchez is a bit of a cunt isnt he

Monreal isnt far behind him in the cuntish stakes, this is why i cant stand Arsenal, team is full of cunts
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
Nah. It was just fortunate it fell at his feet. You canít follow a player just in case it might end up at his feet when the ball is nowhere near him to start with.

Thought that myself, that rebound was better than a pass, no blame to Pickford who has been fantastic. Think the ref is starstruck towards Arsenal as well. And Sanchez is a cunt.
On the plus side, great goal by Rooney, Vlasic been excellent, as has Gana. Pickford brilliant.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
Stream cut out as they scored.

Shame we couldn't have held out till half time.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
How many of our players would get into the Arsenal team? Their quality is on a different level to us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 08:25:10 PM
It's more that we should've conceded 5 but for Pickford/poor finishing.

Your loyalty to Koeman is delusional.

No. You support your team.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 08:25:31 PM
how slow and cumbersome does Siggy look, not at the races at all
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:25:41 PM
I'm going for the positive, when have we competed at all first 45 this season apart from City? we are better than for yonks today surely? these are very talented it's not FC flip flip this one.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 08:25:48 PM
Not a fan of our hoof it to DCL and hope he becomes peak Brazil Ronaldo and scores a goal on his own approach
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
More attempts on goal in 1 half than any team all season.

And there's people still defending Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
Would've been 2 or 3 nil down but for Pickford though, so he can be forgiven a minor error.

He's done it a couple other times this season, parrying the ball back into danger. Definitely something that he needs to improve his technique on, can't think of many other areas though. 
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:27:42 PM
No. You support your team.

You can support a team, while still recognizing problems.

Or is this a dictatorship and fans canít have a voice, unless itís unwaveringly uncritical?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
How many of our players would get into the Arsenal team? Their quality is on a different level to us.

Gana and Pickford of our present team.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:28:07 PM
In reality its been pretty shit again. Had 2 or 3 whove played well though and at least weve shown some aggression and threat. Defensively though we are wide open. They look like they could cut through us every time they get the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 08:28:30 PM
Pickford wasnt to blame at all imo, he had to readjust with the deflection. Kenny should have reacted quicker and got in front of Monreal. Hes young, but he has to be switched on if he wants to go from a good reserve player to a very good starting player. Were still in this, but we need another body in mid to stop their control otherwise we are just going to keep drawing them against our back 3 and with Williams on a card and NO pace whatsoever there, its a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Redartin on October 22, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
On a positive note by this time tomorrow we may need a manager.

Any morsels of comfort we may have got from Rooney's goal is just papering over the cracks.

Giroud must be watching this and thinking "must give the wife a good seeing too tonight for saving me from this"
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Not a fan of our hoof it to DCL and hope he becomes peak Brazil Ronaldo and scores a goal on his own approach

I mean, theoretically we are playing 2 up top.  It shouldn't be that way.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 08:29:14 PM
He's done it a couple other times this season, parrying the ball back into danger. Definitely something that he needs to improve his technique on, can't think of many other areas though. 



The first shot leading up to their goal took a deflection off Sigurdsson. I don't think Pickford can be blamed for that really.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:29:37 PM
Defensively we are very poor, Pickford has been superb. However, I feel we've shown more guts and passion in this half than any other time this season. We're riding our luck, and we probably will get tonked in the second half, but at least we're seeing the team try more.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
Think Klassen for Rooney at some point in the half. Really believe he is one flick or assist away from being amazing
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 08:30:21 PM
He's done it a couple other times this season, parrying the ball back into danger. Definitely something that he needs to improve his technique on, can't think of many other areas though. 

That was a deflection how the hell can you blame Pickford for that ? Been our best player in front of an invisible defence, 5-1 without him by halftime.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 08:30:48 PM
this 3 at the back thing is a massive waste of time
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:30:50 PM
We will continue to be dominated, and lose 2-1, and Koeman will be safe because we battled.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 08:31:04 PM
Hang on do I have to be supporting Koeman by saying I think I see a lot of positives out there today? Yes Arsenal have carved us open but it's the first time this season I have seen passion, commitment and a willingness to try things. I can just about take losing when the players leave it all out there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
Have i got me blue glasses back on for the first time in yonks? or have i just had the right amount of pints?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 08:31:30 PM
how slow and cumbersome does Siggy look, not at the races at all
£45M for a traffic cone... Well done Swansea
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:31:43 PM
We will continue to be dominated, and lose 2-1, and Koeman will be safe because we battled.

I don't want this to be true, but since we are in The Darkest Timeline...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 08:31:55 PM


The first shot leading up to their goal took a deflection off Sigurdsson. I don't think Pickford can be blamed for that really.

He can. Top keepers have the technique  to react incredibly quickly to save shots and parry the ball away from danger. It's all in the wrists.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
28% possession and 16 shots (many of which were clear cut chances) at home against a struggling team.

And it has actually been an improvement, which says everything.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:32:58 PM
Hang on do I have to be supporting Koeman by saying I think I see a lot of positives out there today? Yes Arsenal have carved us open but it's the first time this season I have seen passion, commitment and a willingness to try things. I can just about take losing when the players leave it all out there.

That's the minimum we should expect.  It's good the players are finally putting that forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:33:02 PM
Hang on do I have to be supporting Koeman by saying I think I see a lot of positives out there today? Yes Arsenal have carved us open but it's the first time this season I have seen passion, commitment and a willingness to try things. I can just about take losing when the players leave it all out there.

I agree with you on the players.

Good decision to take Williams off for Davies, just like I suggested when both Williams and Gana got their bookings.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:33:13 PM
More attempts on goal in 1 half than any team all season.

And there's people still defending Koeman.
You think weíve got a good team out there then? Iím not blindly supporting Koeman, I just donít think our team is very good. 4 players way past their best and 3 kids, 2 of which look way out of their depth. Apart from a Big Sam Ďback to basicsí approach (God no!), not sure who could come in and make this misfit group, better.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jamokachi on October 22, 2017, 08:33:21 PM
Schmeichel doing the half time analysis here. He said Pickford wasn't to blame. That's good enough for me. The deflection was pretty wicked when analysed.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 08:33:21 PM
Mad game this. Like watching summat from the 70s.

Nah, its in colour.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 08:33:47 PM
Gone to a back four.

Had to change something.

Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Vlasic Gana Davies Sigurdsson
DCL Rooney
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:33:52 PM
We were at least putting in the effort. Strange seeing us conceding lots of chances, largely getting outplayed, lucky to be level and its been a big improvement.

Given the chasing, bookings, we'll tire, so need a good start to 2nd half.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:33:56 PM
28% possession and 16 shots (many of which were clear cut chances) at home against a struggling team.

And it has actually been an improvement, which says everything.

Us at home v. Arsenal is equivalent to Huddersfield at United.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
He can. Top keepers have the technique  to react incredibly quickly to save shots and parry the ball away from danger. It's all in the wrists.




Quite.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:34:06 PM
Davies on Williams off master stroke or bellend move?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:34:35 PM
I agree with you on the players.

Good decision to take Williams off for Davies, just like I suggested when both Williams and Gana got their bookings.

Congrats. You think like Ronald Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 08:35:13 PM
Vlasic looks half decent, Pickford has done alright
Rest of the team is shit
Evens for an Arsenal win = Free money.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:35:44 PM
Pickford to finally get off the mark today?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 08:35:49 PM
Davies for Williams and a change of formation... can Koeman get it right now?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:35:59 PM
The ref is giving them every 50/50
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:36:07 PM
Hang on do I have to be supporting Koeman by saying I think I see a lot of positives out there today? Yes Arsenal have carved us open but it's the first time this season I have seen passion, commitment and a willingness to try things. I can just about take losing when the players leave it all out there.

I know what you mean but Arsenal have had something like 16 shots. You do wonder if the improvement in attack is down to being so open at the other end. Least weve had a little excitement going forward, shown some agression and had 2 or 3 good individual performances BUT we also look completely out of our depth as a contest.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
The change to Davies is at least acknowledging basic reality.  With what we have on the bench, it was the only move available.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:36:14 PM
Nah, its in colour.
And no Gerald Sinstadt.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:36:35 PM
Great forward pressing there.

This ref is a cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:36:36 PM
Nah, its in colour.

"For those watching on a black and white television, Everton are the team playing in blue".
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Congrats. You think like Ronald Koeman.

No need for the insults Doc.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
You think weíve got a good team out there then? Iím not blindly supporting Koeman, I just donít think our team is very good. 4 players way past their best and 3 kids, 2 of which look way out of their depth. Apart from a Big Sam Ďback to basicsí approach (God no!), not sure who could come in and make this misfit group, better.

Koeman's spent over £220m assembling these players, so it's on him whichever way you slice it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
The ref is giving them every 50/50
And 40/60 as well
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:37:58 PM
The ref seems like he thinks he's been levelling it up, since he didn't show Williams the red.

Bizarre refereeing since
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:39:17 PM
Ref inconsistency is annoying.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 08:39:43 PM
Gut feeling from the off this ref is gonna hand it to them.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
Koeman's spent over £220m assembling these players, so it's on him whichever way you slice it.
While thereís some he getting paid millions as our Director of Football and not providing the manager with the basic requirements of the squad, Iíll blame him instead.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:40:14 PM
again, to be fair, Rooney seems to be making a clear effort to defer to Sigurdsson's #10 role today.  It's a good start.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:40:18 PM
The ref seems like he thinks he's been levelling it up, since he didn't show Williams the red.

Bizarre refereeing since

It doesn't help that Arseonal over react to tackles, and the players surround the ref at any opportunity, whereas we dont make a meal of things so much. Even that terrible foul on Baines only had a couple of shouts.

Not saying we are doing things wrong, just need to play them at their game a little better.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
Still think we will win this. Obviously just building myself up for extra disappointment
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: april on October 22, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
Good to see a bit of fight for a change. Niasse on last 15 to plunder the winner.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
oh just fuck everything with a rusty dildo
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:40:48 PM
fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
Yikes, what a fucking goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:41:04 PM
Balls.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:41:11 PM
Defo all the refs fault.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Brilliant goal that.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:41:21 PM
Game over now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Escla on October 22, 2017, 08:41:27 PM
Pickford should have done better there. Was having a good game too till then.

Is still having a good game
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:41:33 PM
And there we have it.

And Koeman will be safe as houses, because we battled and scored.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KevtheRat on October 22, 2017, 08:41:43 PM
Goggly eyed twat
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:41:44 PM
Kenny not tall enough, then Pickford not tall enough (in succession)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 08:41:48 PM
fucks sake.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:42:27 PM
you know youíre shit when ÷zil scores a header against you.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: DannyR on October 22, 2017, 08:42:31 PM
Fucks sake
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
Just the way its going for us. Chance at one end then 2-1 down.

Think its just deemednto fail under koeman sadly.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 08:42:36 PM
Later RoeKoe
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:42:43 PM
Too easy. Kenny stood off sanch ez and keane was static.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:42:55 PM
Jags looking at Keane there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Free £500 - thanks Ronald you mug
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:43:03 PM
Giroud will come on and we will end up losing 4-1
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
Ozil with a header aswell, haha
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:43:21 PM
you know youíre shit when ÷zil scores a header against you.

a worldy header, no less
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:43:27 PM
What now? Concede another ane we probably collapse.

Not sure how we score here though.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 22, 2017, 08:43:38 PM
Can see Arsenal getting 4 or 5 here now. Fuck off Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
Not over yet. Lots of time for the ref to fuck us royally.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:44:03 PM
So wide open in the box there. He couldíve taken three touches.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 08:44:05 PM
So open.

No confidence, no leaders.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
Giroud will come on and we will end up losing 4-1

I figured he would make it 2 or 3-nil, but the random goal threw the calculus off
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:44:23 PM
Where is our defence?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
Can't see him being here tomorrow morning if it stays like this,

We've been totally outplayed AT HOME by a team that we had hopes of catching before the season started!

Such a shame, i had hopes for Koeman after last season  but how can he stay after this
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:44:51 PM
Set piece our best bet
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:45:06 PM
a worldy header, no less

It really wasnít mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:45:12 PM
Ozil's eyes were offside
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
Where is our defence?

somewhere in Argentina, getting pissed?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Defence looks a lot weaker and gutless without Williams imo
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
Where is our defence?
We have a defence. ?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
Is it right Arsenal have 1 away win this season. Smashed something like 20 shots against us in 50 minutes. Its been vastly more exciting than anything weve watched this season but still completely shite all be it in a different way
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:45:56 PM
Gueye cant do his job after being booked.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 08:45:59 PM
Set piece our best bet

As long as our set-piece specialist, Sigurdsson is nowhere near it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
Keane in back 4 just looks like trouble
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Bet the players can't wait for him to get fired, so that they can get back to normal and show their actual ability again.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
We have a defence. ?

Well, a keeper.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
We have a defence. ?
Nope
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 08:47:09 PM
Keane in back 4 just looks like trouble

Heís shit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 08:47:14 PM
we are not even close to getting the basics right, like defending a cross against the biggest shithouse sissy on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:47:20 PM
DCL down now.  Would God like to come down from His clouds and take a wee in my coffee whilst He's at it?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
As long as our set-piece specialist, Sigurdsson is nowhere near it.

His deliveries have been decent last few games
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
We had so much fun with the "Everton B" meme last season...well, now we are "Sunderland B."
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 08:48:15 PM
Getting thrashed again, when will it stop?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:48:41 PM
Rooney head has dropped, loose passes
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 08:48:43 PM
DCL down now.  Would God like to come down from His clouds and take a wee in my coffee whilst He's at it?

Would be the most amazing coffee though.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:49:05 PM
Yes Koeman is shite but this squad though. It's nowhere near top 6 level.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
Getting thrashed again, when will it stop?

Have you watched many Everton v Arsenal games?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:49:14 PM
Niasse to come on and win it.

If not we lose 3-1 and I get max points in the prediction league. Win win for me at least.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: hill135 on October 22, 2017, 08:49:24 PM
Awful game.

We're a shite long ball team.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
Bet the players can't wait for him to get fired, so that they can get back to normal and show their actual ability again.

I think they'll be in for a long wait, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 08:49:59 PM
Watching this in bed and the GF just said 'trying harder but still messy' before nipping off to brew me a tea leaving me with thoughts of shades of last night or possible job with NBC Sports?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
His deliveries have been decent last few games
I expect better then decent for 45m...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:50:59 PM
Yes Koeman is shite but this squad though. It's nowhere near top 6 level.
Nowwwww you get it!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:51:34 PM
Thank god only DCL's nose, thought it might have been a stud to eye
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:51:40 PM
We are crap
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:51:46 PM
We actually look quite hopeless.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:51:46 PM
I'm just curious to see if we get another shot on target.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 08:52:02 PM
Someone cut Davies's hair he looks like Anne of Green Gables
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:52:15 PM
Yes Koeman is shite but this squad though. It's nowhere near top 6 level.

Yeah, we are the whole package.

Odd recruitment and tactically retarded.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:53:36 PM
We need to change this try and freshen it up.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:53:50 PM
Same problem. We donít look like we know how to score or create a goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:54:09 PM
Time for Niasse...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
I think they'll be in for a long wait, unfortunately.

Nah we'll only be out of the bottom 3 on goal difference

They will have to act
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:54:29 PM
For how shite we were under the previous idiot we were nowhere the bottom three and it wasn't just solely down to Lukaku. This clown will keep us down there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:54:48 PM
if it stays 1-2, I bet Koeman hangs on.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 08:54:48 PM
Same problem. We donít look like we know how to score or create a goal.

I think it's much worse. We don't look like we know how to play as a team in any area of the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 08:55:19 PM
He's shit

You're shit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
For how shite we were under the previous idiot we were nowhere the bottom three and it wasn't just solely down to Lukaku. This clown will keep us down there.

Very true.  Barkley also had a hand in it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
45mil on siggurdson tonplay him left wing. Fucking madness
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 22, 2017, 08:55:31 PM
Common you gotta get the Sig out, he has been poor the whole game.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:55:38 PM
Two years since Arsenal have come from a goal behind to win an away match.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:55:55 PM
Nah we'll only be out of the bottom 3 on goal difference

They will have to act

Iíd be amazed.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 08:56:02 PM
Sigurdsson is dogshit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Bye bye Ron.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Poor from Gana that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 08:56:10 PM
Niasse warming up, if he saves Koeman again...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:56:12 PM
Gana's off, and we won't have him for Foxes.  Christ on a bike.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 08:56:20 PM
Game over
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 22, 2017, 08:56:21 PM
And that's that. Done for the match now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 08:56:29 PM
I wonder if Moshiri thinks this performance and other performances have been acceptable recently.

Oh and now Gueye fucking sent off. Just not our day at all is it?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
Red for Gueye.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 08:56:38 PM
Game over.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 08:56:40 PM
It never rains...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 08:56:44 PM
Oh god, how can it get any worse
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:56:46 PM
Yeah, we are the whole package.

Odd recruitment and tactically retarded.
Iím not a Koeman apologist - but our fans act like heís got a world class team and heís holding them back.

Watched Soton vs West Brom last night  - half the Soton line-up would get into our team. And a few from West Brom!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 08:56:46 PM
Guaranteed that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 08:56:53 PM
Someone cut Davies's hair he looks like Anne of Green Gables
i was thinking one of the plantaginates
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
There was nothing inevitable about that, no sir nobody saw that coming, completely out the blue that. What a shock
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
45mil on siggurdson tonplay him left wing. Fucking madness

Fixed.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
A number of cards this ref has handed out to us and not to them are beyond belief.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:57:30 PM
We are a mess. By any measurement.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:57:31 PM
Gueye's sending-off will give Koeman another excuse.

In reality, Koeman playing him on his own in the first-half made him really vulnerable to this.

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
But yeah, Koeman is off.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
Always play better with 10 men. Ref doing us a favour there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 08:58:10 PM
Iím not a Koeman apologist - but our fans act like heís got a world class team and heís holding them back.

Watched Soton vs West Brom last night  - half the Soton line-up would get into our team. And a few from West Brom!

Whose responsibility is recruitment though?

This season was torpedoed before it started.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:58:27 PM
Normally, when teams go down to 10 men against us, they rally and even score. Watch us go even deeper into ourselves.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:58:28 PM
Iím not a Koeman apologist - but our fans act like heís got a world class team and heís holding them back.

Watched Soton vs West Brom last night  - half the Soton line-up would get into our team. And a few from West Brom!

Why didn't he try and sign them then?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 08:58:49 PM
It's definitely a hodge-podge group of players that if poorly led (or even in a mediocre fashion) could find itself in a relegation scrap.  Lukaku and Barkley saved Martinez from that indignity here.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
Why didn't he try and sign them then?

He's not allowed to sign Soton players...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 08:59:27 PM
I'm not a Koeman apologist - but our fans act like he's got a world class team and he's holding them back.

Watched Soton vs West Brom last night  - half the Soton line-up would get into our team. And a few from West Brom!

Out of interest, can you name them?

Our players aren't bad players, it's a poor system that's been badly implemented
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
Keane and Calvert-Lewin both did really well there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
If there isn't an announcement straight after the game that we have parted company then what's the point in Moshiri even being there.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 09:00:01 PM
Why didn't he try and sign them then?
Ask Steve Walsh
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:00:11 PM
He's not allowed to sign Soton players...

Really?

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:00:54 PM
It's definitely a hodge-podge group of players that if poorly led (or even in a mediocre fashion) could find itself in a relegation scrap.  Lukaku and Barkley saved Martinez from that indignity here.
We are a nothing team....not even in the top 10 best teams in the league. Koemans  done a disastrous job....i don't really see how it could be worse all things considered ?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:00:55 PM
Should happen within one hour of the final whistle.  No reason to draw this shit out.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:01:19 PM
Cue Giroud to come on and make it four.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:01:22 PM
Another 2 or 3 and he's got to go
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 09:01:23 PM
A number of cards this ref has handed out to us and not to them are beyond belief.

'A couple of dangerous crosses, from Baines and then Vlasic on the opposite flank, go unrewarded, perhaps because Evertonís only striker is currently shaking off a kick to the face.'

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:01:25 PM
So much for playing better with 10...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:01:47 PM
Canít watch anymore of this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
Open mouthed here
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:02:09 PM
Super
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
Bollocks
Title: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:02:16 PM
Haha the back four line there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Waltzer on October 22, 2017, 09:02:39 PM
WTF was Keane doing? Dropped about 15 ft back and played every one on side
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 09:02:58 PM
Bottom 3
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
Lookman and Niasse... that reeks of desperation
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
Rooney and DCL off for Lookman and Niasse.  Because who gives a fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
He absolutey must be axed tonight.

I'm beginning to seriously shit myself now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
It's definitely a hodge-podge group of players that if poorly led (or even in a mediocre fashion) could find itself in a relegation scrap.  Lukaku and Barkley saved Martinez from that indignity here.

Uber for Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 09:03:14 PM
Shit thought we would have at least had the token yellow for Arsenal by now, but no the ref going for the signed shirt now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
If there isn't an announcement straight after the game that we have parted company then what's the point in Moshiri even being there.

You mean the owner can't watch his team against the former team he partly owned?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
The defence is just an embarrassment.

That is meant to be Koemanís strength.

We should at least be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 09:03:25 PM
No idea how Xhaka hasn't been booked yet
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 09:03:25 PM
Really?



No not really. Although there was something about him not going back for Saints players when he first joined us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:03:50 PM
Can Niasse save Koeman's job?

Nah! But the irony if he did  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:03:54 PM
Still not avin Keane. He isnt shit just....

I don't know
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
Lookman and Niasse... that reeks of desperation

Yeah well we are desperate
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
Can Niasse save Koeman's job?

Nah! But the irony if he did  lolol

Niasse hatrick to win it.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:04:29 PM
Niasse offside on the free kick.  Of course.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:04:42 PM
Red is really ridiculous today. No consistency. Considering weíre the home  team itís even more amazing.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Niasse offside from a free-kick.

We're so shite it's depressing.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:04:57 PM
WTF was that ball from Vlasic about? We can go on about the poor defence there, but honestly, that came about because we couldn't hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds, even in space.

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 09:05:22 PM
WTF was Keane doing? Dropped about 15 ft back and played every one on side

I think it's more like Jags stepped up to chase the ball and abandoned him there.

There's no way we should be trying to step up when the opposition has time on the ball and several runners
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 09:05:26 PM
Still not avin Keane. He isnt shit just....

I don't know



He's a secondary CB. His performance depends on his partner. Should have gotten maguire
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:05:29 PM
Arsene not throwing on Giroud because he feels sorry for us?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
Still not avin Keane. He isnt shit just....

I don't know
Gotta be honest I think he's looked shit. Yet to have a good game for me and always out of position/slow to react. Not even a threat in the opponents box.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Redartin on October 22, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
To think Arsenal fans want Wenger out and last year Koeman was muted as a possible replacement.

Oh be careful what you wish for Gooners.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
Ah well, power about drained & can't be arsed to plug in the laptop. He best be gone be time I find the urge.......

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
Sanchez telling them where to put the ball at every freekick is making me fucking mad.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Waltzer on October 22, 2017, 09:06:22 PM
Everyone stepped by except Keane.....
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:06:34 PM
Davies, shot on target WOO!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 09:06:40 PM
Out of interest, can you name them?

Our players aren't bad players, it's a poor system that's been badly implemented
Cedric, Bertrand, VVD, Gabbiadini would all walk into our team. Arguably Tasic and Romeu. And as we have no strikers you can add Austin and Long.

Not saying we should be in for all of them, we should be aiming higher - just saying they are better than what we have.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 09:07:26 PM
I know he's young but Kenny has been poor today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:07:46 PM
Cedric, Bertrand, VVD, Gabbiadini would all walk into our team. Arguably Tasic and Romeu. And as we have no strikers you can add Austin and Long.

Not saying we should be in for all of them, we should be aiming higher - just saying they are better than what we have.
They'd all get in our team.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
Weird how casual Baines was there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 09:08:24 PM
Claridge on the BBC, "Do you worry about Everton going down? I haven't seen three worse teams.

I don't understand what Everton are trying to do? There are a lot of good players but no structure, no system to speak of. It is not enough to just get men behind the ball."

Sums it up.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
This is pitiful.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
Are we back in the 'slag all 11 players off individually' phase again?

Boring and misguided, that phase. Watch the difference if/ when we get a decent manager

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:09:13 PM
Claridge on the BBC, "Do you worry about Everton going down? I haven't seen three worse teams.

I don't understand what Everton are trying to do? There are a lot of good players but no structure, no system to speak of. It is not enough to just get men behind the ball."

Sums it up.
Been saying it for weeks.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me. Is he playing lookman as a number 10 aswell?!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 09:09:22 PM
Kenny is ok but nowhere near first team starter. Roll on Colemans return. 1 more Arsenal goal were in the relegation zone. Sorry Ronald you have to go.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 09:09:46 PM
Didn't even need Giroud.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Smingers on October 22, 2017, 09:10:19 PM
Koeman needs to go asap. We need someone who rally the players together. They are clearly good players. Just got no confidence and koeman is not the man.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
This is absolutely, 100% a failure of leadership.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:10:35 PM
Can somebody put a proper old fashioned reducer on SŠnchez please, the games gone somebody just show the twat what itís like to actually be tackled properly
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Are we back in the 'slag all 11 players off individually' phase again?

Boring and misguided, that phase. Watch the difference if/ when we get a decent manager



You are like a broken record now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
You are like a broken record now

Sorry. I'll give it a rest.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:11:41 PM
Are we back in the 'slag all 11 players off individually' phase again?

Boring and misguided, that phase. Watch the difference if/ when we get a decent manager



The players don't know how to play with each other, it's like a bunch of lads just turning up at a park.  Claridge is spot on.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 09:11:55 PM
You mean the owner can't watch his team against the former team he partly owned?

Grow up. Everyone knows the predicament we're in. Take a look at the league table and tell me if our owner thinks that should be acceptable.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 22, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
Easiest away game Arsenal will have all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
just a thought, thinking of the prediction league, will 1 4 count the same has 0 3
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 09:12:43 PM
Can somebody put a proper old fashioned reducer on SŠnchez please, the games gone somebody just show the twat what itís like to actually be tackled properly

They'd try but still miss him.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:12:48 PM
I have no earthly idea how it's only 3.  They're dry humping us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
Offside trap working well today
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
You are like a broken record now

Now?  More like a month ago
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:13:33 PM
Fucking christ! This is shambolic defending  :Horse:
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:13:34 PM
Grow up. Everyone knows the predicament we're in. Take a look at the league table and tell me if our owner thinks that should be acceptable.

Yeah but what's the point of the owner watching is? Ludicrous
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2017, 09:14:03 PM
Anyone still want him to stay and see what happens?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 09:14:06 PM
He will send us down.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
What a cunt of a challenge
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:14:49 PM
Was in the give him time camp but he 100% has to leave.

He cant get this team going at all
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:14:59 PM
They'd try but still miss him.
But he will get twice as fake hurt.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:15:22 PM
the longer he stays, the more we risk a Fat Sam coming in
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:15:49 PM
Was in the give him time camp but he 100% has to leave.

He cant get this team going at all

Same. I've switched from Christmas, to this evening.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 09:16:07 PM
Koeman cannot stop the decline, he will just make it worse. I'm frightened that the board will not act competently regarding this situation.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 09:16:08 PM
Koeman needs to go asap. We need someone who rally the players together. They are clearly good players. Just got no confidence and koeman is not the man.
DCL, Niasse, Kenny, Williams, Baines, Jags, Rooney - sorry, thatís 7 that are either past it or not good enough. Where are these good players?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:16:22 PM
Same. I've switched from Christmas, to this evening.
Me too.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:16:29 PM
Not really sure how he can explain his way out of this one post match

We've been totally outplayed from start to finish

I want that guy from Watford but i doubt he'd come so soon after joining them
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: john e on October 22, 2017, 09:16:39 PM
This is bad......
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 22, 2017, 09:17:27 PM
Koeman cannot stop the decline, he will just make it worse. I'm frightened that the board will not act competently regarding this situation.
Whether I thinks itís his fault or not - I agree he canít stop it and so needs to go - just not sure who else can sort this mess out. Big Sam until the summer to save us?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:17:29 PM
There's #4, making us clear 18th
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:17:44 PM
Niasse is at least a laugh
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:17:44 PM
Oohhhh... Must be the nail. Fucking embarrassing....
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:17:47 PM
He'll be gone, am 99% sure
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:17:57 PM
Magic
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 09:18:01 PM
The terrifying thing is that we will not score goals until we can get some people on board in January. We need someone to come in and hit the ground running. If we don't get that we're in big big trouble.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:18:05 PM
Into the bottom 3.

Koeman has to be gone tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 09:18:07 PM
Not really sure how he can explain his way out of this one post match

We've been totally outplayed from start to finish

I want that guy from Watford but i doubt he'd come so soon after joining them

Watford usually change manager about now regardless of how well they are doing
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
He'll be gone, am 99% sure

We need to get the banners out if he isn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
Fuck you Ramsey. You should have scored first and Arsenal should only have scored 3. Thanks for ruining my day.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:18:34 PM
Saddest thing, Pickford our MotM despite letting in 4.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
He's going tonight or in the morning

If not our board are completely incompitent
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
Fuuuuuuck sake.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:18:41 PM
That compiles it.

Bottom 3

Fuck.off Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
Any minor positives from the first half have been completely obliterated by this half.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bally on October 22, 2017, 09:18:51 PM
Arsenal have not won away this season
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:18:55 PM
If be amazed if Koeman is still with us in 24 hrs time
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
Which celeb will die this week now that Rambo has scored?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: DannyR on October 22, 2017, 09:19:12 PM
He has to go
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:19:18 PM
And if he doesn't get the sack he should have the decency to walk away.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:19:46 PM
God we are dire.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Fynci on October 22, 2017, 09:19:51 PM
Arsenal have not won away this season

...it'll kickstart their season. Where have I heard that before?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:19:58 PM
Haha Fuck me is Koeman complaining thereís to many minutes added on?

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 09:20:12 PM
Can't see him surviving this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Theres my PL score. We can all at least be happy with that...
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:20:18 PM
Watford usually change manager about now regardless of how well they are doing

He looks good, nearly kept Hull up against all odds last season

I'm originally from there and some of my Hull City supporting friends were gutted when he left, thought he was class
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:20:22 PM
I still just don't get how he didn't bring Gana off. Gana was always going to get a second yellow
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:20:35 PM
Nah he'll be in charge for Chelsea.

Got to make sure the season is truly dead and buried before he goes.

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
Niasse trolling Koeman
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: stirlingblue on October 22, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
Cedric, Bertrand, VVD, Gabbiadini would all walk into our team. Arguably Tasic and Romeu. And as we have no strikers you can add Austin and Long.

Not saying we should be in for all of them, we should be aiming higher - just saying they are better than what we have.

Coleman is better than Cedric.

VVD is obvious as he's much better than both them and us, he's champions league standard.

Bertrand yes, but even as recently as last season I would have said Baines over Bertrand.

Gabbiadini/Austin/Long are better than DCL, but not as good as the standard we should have signed this summer.

I make that 2, max 3 players. I'm not meaning to sound like I'm having a go but we need to be clear that this is a poorly set up, poorly managed team, the players aren't terrible.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:20:57 PM
Niasse gets a garbage collector goal
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:21:00 PM
Arsenal have not won away this season

Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 09:21:08 PM
Niasse drags us out the relegation zone!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 09:21:09 PM
Hahahahaha! Cech feeling totally sorry for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 09:21:11 PM
Come back on 😉
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:21:21 PM
Love how despite all the shit, Niasse still playing
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
Out of the bottom 3 via a gift.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Niasse out of the relegation zone
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
Haha at least our goal scoring wonder has done his job
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:21:52 PM
The only saving grace of this day for me is I put money on Arsenal to win......and then when we went up 1-0 I doubled down on the bet.

We are easy to bet against.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Smingers on October 22, 2017, 09:21:55 PM
Arsenal have not won away this season

They have now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 09:21:57 PM
Fuck he'll keep his job now..
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 09:22:01 PM
Yeah Koeman has to go really. It's getting silly
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:22:23 PM
Niasse is our second top scorer despite being on the pitch for about 120 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:22:28 PM
Niasse should've headed it in
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:22:42 PM
Well thats even fucked up my PL score.

Now I'm REALLY depressed.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
Comeback off
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
Nah he'll be in charge for Chelsea.

Got to make sure the season is truly dead and buried before he goes.



Can we ask if we can bring our FA Cup 3rd round game forward, to see if he can squeeze a cheeky lower league defeat in, before he goes?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
Nail. Coffin.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 09:23:10 PM
Pull the trigger Mosh.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
Back to 18th, and I get 1 sad point (in addition to the result points everyone will get) in Prediction League
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:23:22 PM
Yeah Koeman has to go really. It's getting silly
He 'll be gone now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:23:29 PM
Out of the bottom 3 via a gift.

Think we are still in the bottom 3, says so on Sky live league table

Oh well that makes certain then
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:23:34 PM
Well that was short lived.

Back into bottom 3.

Canít even give us that sliver of light.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
And back in we go
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
The fuck is moshiri smirking about there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
Stand up, walk down to the touchline and sack him on the spot.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:23:56 PM
KOEMAN OUT!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 22, 2017, 09:24:00 PM
Gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:24:00 PM
Guaranteed the Shite will win at Spurs now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
You couldnt make it up. Someone up there really doesnt like Everton Football Club. Night night lids. Fuck off Koeman.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Waltzer on October 22, 2017, 09:24:12 PM
Moshiri actually looked like he enjoyed Sanchez 5th
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Smingers on October 22, 2017, 09:24:24 PM
Love how despite all the shit, Niasse still playing

No matter what anyone says, his never give up attitude is something that none of our other players have
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:24:26 PM
Moshiri looks like heís really feeling it doesnít he
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:24:32 PM
The final whistle was the death knell for Koeman

Embarrassing
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
5 goals at home!

Get the fuck out of our club Koeman!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 09:24:47 PM
this is fucking pathetic. Sack him tonight. Clueless
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blargins on October 22, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
What the fuck are they clapping for?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Moshiri actually looked like he enjoyed Sanchez 5th

He said oh no!
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
Should've gone over a month ago. Weird that people are only saying 'Koeman out' now. It was so glaringly obvious that he'd lost the plot earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
The fuck is moshiri smirking about there

Probably let off a guff
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:25:09 PM
Tara
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
Moshiri actually looked like he enjoyed Sanchez 5th

Itís an ďexpectedĒ loss isnít it
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:25:13 PM
We'll win next game, getting my bet on now
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
The fuck is moshiri smirking about there

I don't know but it honestly made me laugh. He's probably laughing at the joke that is our season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:25:57 PM
Robbie Earle verdict?  KOEMAN OUT
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
If heís not gone then you have to question the boardís sanity not to mention ambition.

You canít spend what we did and be happy with this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 09:26:08 PM
If he's not sacked immediately then Moshiri is a cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:26:10 PM
No matter what anyone says, his never give up attitude is something that none of our other players have

I really like the Niasse!

And so did the guy at Watford which says everything to me, they're 6th  :o
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:26:27 PM
Christ. Turn it off and find its 5-2.

Seruously fuck right off Koeman.

Conceding goals like no ones business.

No chance we are beating anyone at this rate.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
NBC studio crew is unanimous.  KOEMAN OUT.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Tinga on October 22, 2017, 09:26:32 PM
As I've said two weeks on the trot, if he doesn't go tonight..Moshiri has no ambition. I don't think Moshiri has any ambition at all, or Bill is making him cry so Koeman keeps his job so that we save some pennies.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 09:26:36 PM
It's a shame the owners act like fans instead of owners. They won't sack him
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
Moshiri probably wanted to do his old mates a favour before sacking him
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:26:50 PM
Should've gone over a month ago. Weird that people are only saying 'Koeman out' now. It was so glaringly obvious that he'd lost the plot earlier in the season.
Gotta agree with this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 22, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
what happened there? Fan on the pitch?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 09:27:09 PM
You couldnt make it up. Someone up there really doesnt like Everton Football Club. Night night lids. Fuck off Koeman.

Nah it's not luck or God. We make poor decisions, we have for decades and we suffer the consequences.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 09:27:24 PM
If Koeman is still at the club by tomorrow evening then that tells me we don't have the right board to take the club forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2017, 09:27:26 PM
Voting with my feet until he's gone.

Absolutley disgraceful what he's done to this team with the money he's had.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:27:34 PM
Smirking at that point was such an offkey thing to do 😁

He's a bit eccentric, is Moshiri.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:27:52 PM
We didn't have a shot in the second half. That tells it all.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: april on October 22, 2017, 09:28:44 PM
Surely heís got to go tonight? Iíve never known such disparity between expectation and actual. Get gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 09:28:56 PM
The only saving grace of this day for me is I put money on Arsenal to win......and then when we went up 1-0 I doubled down on the bet.

We are easy to bet against.

Well done you.

Always think it's a bit cuntish when someone gloats about winning a bet against us, even more so when we've just been pumped 5-2 and are in the relegation places.

Anyway, enjoy your winnings.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
We didn't have a shot in the second half. That tells it all.

Yes we did. We even scored
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
Have you watched many Everton v Arsenal games?

Donít get you ?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
Have we conceded the most goals now? Must be up there.

Was stupid to even remotely consider winning this.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 22, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
No excuses for Ronald now. 5-2 at home is not acceptable. This is Everton football club. Bottom 3 minus 11 goal difference probably out of Europe. Whatever can be saved from the season now has to begin with Koemans P.45
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Has to go now,

He's had more than enough chances this season

Shame but see you later lad, good luck with your next job as long as its not a game against us
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TSGun on October 22, 2017, 09:30:08 PM
Strangely confident of a good result in this game.

Arsenal are hardly setting the world on fire and have their own issues to contend with.

Despite the gloom surrounding us at the moment if we can muster an ounce of belief it's not beyond us.
Normally don't quote my own posts but the utter stupidity I write sometimes astounds me.

Good call, dickhead.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 09:30:36 PM
He's got to go today. ...first half was better but still shite
Getting sick of paying out to watch that
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:30:59 PM
More worrying is we spent £60M on 2 new additions to our back line and look even worse defensively than I can ever remember.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Dr. Sponge on October 22, 2017, 09:31:03 PM
Fuckinel. Get Big Sam in.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
We didn't have a shot in the second half. That tells it all.

Nah, you forgot Davies' dribbler from like 40 yards out.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: wepull on October 22, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
Well even a new manager will take a lot of time to get over this mental block we have now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Cozzie on October 22, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
Arsenal wont have an easier game.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:32:30 PM
I think Mosh was just bemused, as if it couldn't get much worse, oh wait.

He's not investing hundreds of millions for this shit. No blame for Mosh for me, he appoints people and he's backed them, that's all you can expect.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:32:33 PM
Donít get you ?

The game was 2-1 when you posted, it ended like it has many, many times before with us and Arsenal.

If you'd waited a few goals I would have agreed. ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 22, 2017, 09:32:36 PM
Fuckinel. Get Big Sam in.

No no no

Watford guy or Tuchel for me

Would like Ancelotti but as if  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:32:55 PM
Well done you.

Always think it's a bit cuntish when someone gloats about winning a bet against us, even more so when we've just been pumped 5-2 and are in the relegation places.

Anyway, enjoy your winnings.

I wanted us to win. Don't get me wrong. I bet on what I think will happen and not what I want to happen my friend.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 22, 2017, 09:33:00 PM
This club is alot lot closer to doing an Aston Villa than ever competing for the top 4 again.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 22, 2017, 09:33:09 PM
I think pickford had the more touches than the rest our team
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: hill135 on October 22, 2017, 09:33:17 PM
Third home defeat in a row.

We're spiralling and the board has to act.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 09:33:18 PM
Iíd probably be happy to see Manager and Director of football replaced. Total failure across the board.

Started with the summer. Recruitment was just woeful.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Well done you.

Always think it's a bit cuntish when someone gloats about winning a bet against us, even more so when we've just been pumped 5-2 and are in the relegation places.

Anyway, enjoy your winnings.

Itís not really. Weíre the worst team in the league, Arsenal are quite good so evens is a steal. People might not like it but itís true
I put 5 ton in Lyon the other night & the same on Arsenal today
Iím up £1300 just because weíre shit.
Might aswell profit off it
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 09:33:31 PM
Yeah yeah yeah congratulations on being right on Koeman people. Made up for you.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blue1948 on October 22, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
well here we go
I feel for Koeman I honestly do .He plays the players the fans are shouting about .We get played off the park by a really good side for twenty minutes ,get a lucky goal and then get picked apart .We go down to ten men against the side ripping us apart anyway .What did you all expect ,they have been better than us forever and with ten men !! Oh fuck it sack the manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
Yes we did. We even scored

You're right. Forgot about that one - they hadn't updated the final stats. We had 3 shots in the game and 3 in the first half - stupid NBCSN for making me look dumb.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on October 22, 2017, 09:33:41 PM
Is he gone yet?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:34:32 PM
yep, there we are.  18th.  Palace have conceded 1 more goal, Stoke 2.  On goal differential, we should be 19th.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:34:34 PM
Beaten 5-2 and our keeper made multiple big saves.

At least the door is easier to kick open now, there's that. I guess.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Redartin on October 22, 2017, 09:34:49 PM
Have a good night Mrs Giroud.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:34:59 PM
The game was 2-1 when you posted, it ended like it has many, many times before with us and Arsenal.

If you'd waited a few goals I would have agreed. ;)

Oh ok I see what you were saying now. The scoreline at that point was deceiving - we were getting battered
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 09:35:04 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sixymack on October 22, 2017, 09:35:22 PM
Well done you.

Always think it's a bit cuntish when

someone gloats about winning a bet against us, even more so when we've just been pumped 5-2 and are in the
relegation places.

Anyway, enjoy your winnings.



This.  I am not a gambling man and even if I was, I would never bet against my own team.  Straight out of the Bruce Grobbelaar book of bungs.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
As a gambler, you never bet FOR your own side.  It's a massive jinx.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
Oh ok I see what you were saying now. The scoreline at that point was deceiving - we were getting battered

Absolutely we were. But we had all seen much worse score wise...then the whole conversation goes a bit weird as normal service is resumed. lol.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 09:36:37 PM
Well done you.

Always think it's a bit cuntish when someone gloats about winning a bet against us, even more so when we've just been pumped 5-2 and are in the relegation places.

Anyway, enjoy your winnings.

Not sure that's fair, understand frustration, but I'd have bet on us losing.

Gambling is not about what you want, its what you expect. And clearly a silver lining
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
If heís not gone then you have to question the boardís sanity not to mention ambition.

You canít spend what we did and be happy with this.

If I was Moshiri and I'd sanctioned a football manager to spend over £200m in 18 months and found that the team has no shape, no cohesion, no confidence, a huge inferiority complex and finds itself in the relegation zone, I would feel I had no other option than to sack the manager.

I wouldn't give a fuck that I would have to write off about £15m in compensation to that manager because we've been terrible for a good while and there is nothing to suggest the slide down will reverse under the current regime. £15m or more would be worth the price if it means we can kickstart our season again and at least guarantee our spot in the top league for next season.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:37:17 PM


Not betting against your own team is stoopid
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Gash on October 22, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
Itís not really. Weíre the worst team in the league, Arsenal are quite good so evens is a steal. People might not like it but itís true
I put 5 ton in Lyon the other night & the same on Arsenal today
Iím up £1300 just because weíre shit.
Might aswell profit off it

Nah, being smug and bragging about it is cuntish.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jamokachi on October 22, 2017, 09:38:03 PM
He's got to go after that.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 09:38:37 PM
Absolutely we were. But we had all seen much worse score wise...then the whole conversation goes a bit weird as normal service is resumed. lol.

I actually agree at that point Pickford had saved us a hiding.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Nah, being smug and bragging about it is cuntish.

I didnít think he was bragging?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:38:55 PM
I took it as gallows humour, not being smug.  AE isn't like that.

But our nerves are all raw, we are all gonna take things the wrong way right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: American Evertonian on October 22, 2017, 09:40:58 PM
I didnít think he was bragging?

Definitely wasn't. Just highlighting the silver lining for me personally.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Jamokachi on October 22, 2017, 09:41:36 PM
Pathetic
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:42:40 PM
Definitely wasn't. Just highlighting the silver lining for me personally.

Same for me mate, evens was buying money, those useless clowns on the pitch & Koeman earn fortunes for being shit, why can’t we profit a little too?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 09:43:06 PM
Pathetic

Shocking stats that, at home as well
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
Yeah yeah yeah congratulations on being right on Koeman people. Made up for you.

I don't think anyone on here wanted him to fail.

It's just a fair few of us could see from the performances and odd recruitment early on that this was only going one way.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Coyney83 on October 22, 2017, 09:44:47 PM
The players must take far more responsibility for the situation.

Yes, the summer recruitment from RK/SW appears to have been absent of a plan, but in fairness to RK he hasn't been afraid to change things up in recent weeks. Different players, shapes, tactics. Almost a worrying amount of change which shows he is either/both desperate and so confused mentally, that he is struggling to think rationally.

There is absolutely no leadership from the players on or off the pitch. No one is holding people accountable, no one (Niasse and arguably Pickford + Vlasic aside) is taking responsibility on the pitch.

The above is likely endemic of the fact that RK has lost the dressing room, and probably did so 3/4 weeks ago, but the mentality of the players is a fucking joke right now and many of them have enough experience to know that the onus should be on them.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Keep it together lads, seen enough bickering on here lately, don't need anymore
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 09:46:32 PM
Keep it together lads, this thread is starting to look like the way we played on the pitch, messy.

Fist bump for you all before I go.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/072/545/vuist.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 22, 2017, 09:46:32 PM
Dropping into the bottom 3 is normal. Just fuck off and do one you shitbag
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
NBC covering Koeman next
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
weirdly detached interview
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:53:20 PM
weirdly detached interview

Heís not arsed
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 22, 2017, 09:53:38 PM
2 decisions gifted to him on a plate and he choses to rectify only 1 of them,,everyone could clearly see either williams or gueye was gonna get sent off but he only deals with one of them...he doesnt do himself any favours does he :titanic:
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 09:53:38 PM
He's not arsed sitting on a big contract that is paid out when he's sacked.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
weirdly detached interview
Hate the way he puts everything down to 'that's football ...really gets on my tits.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ross on October 22, 2017, 09:53:52 PM
Just doesnít seem bothered does he.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: School of Science on October 22, 2017, 09:54:59 PM
I don't think anyone on here wanted him to fail.

It's just a fair few of us could see from the performances and odd recruitment early on that this was only going one way.

Never seen it coming at all, did concern me we never bought a striker, I'll admit to that. But everyone must see it now, there's no way on God's earth he's turning this around...He has to go and go now, it's damage limitation time.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Everton defender Michael Keane told Sky Sports: "I think so [we are drained of confidence]. Normally everyone would want to get on the ball and show what they can do. Maybe you're not seeing that now. It was a difficult day."

On manager Ronald Koeman being under pressure: "It's down to us, the manager can only do so much. We have 100% belief in him. We feel like we've let him down. We're working really hard to sort it out."

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:59:38 PM
Everton defender Michael Keane told Sky Sports: "I think so [we are drained of confidence]. Normally everyone would want to get on the ball and show what they can do. Maybe you're not seeing that now. It was a difficult day."

On manager Ronald Koeman being under pressure: "It's down to us, the manager can only do so much. We have 100% belief in him. We feel like we've let him down. We're working really hard to sort it out."

Thanks for that Michael you useless pile of shit
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ridge on October 22, 2017, 10:01:19 PM
Impressive that still hasn't taken any responsibility for any failings.

All of it is out of his control apparently
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 10:05:08 PM
Finally home and reflecting ....Half decent first half ,absolute awful second half compounded by koemans poor tactics and subs yet again ..Sig was less than useless today Rooney have the ball away yet to much yet DCL gets dragged off before either of them .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 10:05:19 PM
Finally home and reflecting ....Half decent first half ,absolute awful second half compounded by koemans poor tactics and subs yet again ..Sig was less than useless today Rooney have the ball away yet to much yet DCL gets dragged off before either of them .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Is it me or was he admitting that the players aren't playing for him?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 22, 2017, 10:10:58 PM
Ive had no tinternet for 2 weeks because of moving...why wasnt holgate in the squad?  i thought he'd been one of our better players lately
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 10:11:29 PM
Thanks for that Michael you useless pile of shit
No he isn't he is 1 of the players that have suffered because of the manager, he was doing ok, they will have to be re-assesed now under someone else, short term hopefully from within the club that already know the squad, so the wheat can be sorted from something or other, can't remember.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 10:11:44 PM
Arsenal buddy just told me "If it makes you feel any better, I joined the home supporters in their rousing cries of 'You're getting sacked in the morning.'"

You know what, it did.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 10:12:31 PM
Ive had no tinternet for 2 weeks because of moving...why wasnt holgate in the squad?  i thought he'd been one of our better players lately

He made a bad boo-boo on Thursday, so Koeman randomly singled him out for punishment.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 10:12:57 PM
At least Spurs are helping us spare a bit of flack from the red shite!

Id take Klopp.

(Humour)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
You're right. Forgot about that one - they hadn't updated the final stats. We had 3 shots in the game and 3 in the first half - stupid NBCSN for making me look dumb.

Don't blame NBC mate
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 22, 2017, 10:15:14 PM
Is it me or was he admitting that the players aren't playing for him?
I dont really think they can play for him,a stuctured tearing down of the side was needed with players brought in on a like to like basis.Im afraid a scatter gun approach to transfer policies as left him short in areas and a glut in others.I simply hoped he could turn things around,but only fresh ideas with no ties to the current squad will save us now....in short he has to go.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 10:17:31 PM
No he isn't he is 1 of the players that have suffered because of the manager, he was doing ok, they will have to be re-assesed now under someone else, short term hopefully from within the club that already know the squad, so the wheat can be sorted from something or other, can't remember.

Nah heís shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 10:18:12 PM
Arsenal buddy just told me "If it makes you feel any better, I joined the home supporters in their rousing cries of 'You're getting sacked in the morning.'"

You know what, it did.

Funny thing is, if Arsene Wenger was under any kind of pressure regarding his job, that pressure will have completely evaporated after today's game and performance - leaving the Piers Morgan Wenger Out brigade fuming in a way.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Normm on October 22, 2017, 10:19:10 PM
Yeah yeah yeah congratulations on being right on Koeman people. Made up for you.

Cold comfort.

Let's hope Moshiri can swallow his pride and make the right decision. - Give the job to Unsy and see what he can do until Christmas. He needs to bring the success and confidence that he has inspired in the youngsters to the first team. (We live in hope!).
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
He made a bad boo-boo on Thursday, so Koeman randomly singled him out for punishment.

It's not random if it's for a reason
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 10:20:09 PM
Funny thing is, if Arsene Wenger was under any kind of pressure regarding his job, that pressure will have completely evaporated after today's game and performance - leaving the Piers Morgan Wenger Out brigade fuming in a way.

won't be long before they are piping up again
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 22, 2017, 10:23:01 PM
Funny thing is, if Arsene Wenger was under any kind of pressure regarding his job, that pressure will have completely evaporated after today's game and performance - leaving the Piers Morgan Wenger Out brigade fuming in a way.
Everton football club is the gift that just keeps giving,if youre teams in termoil a game with us will solve the problem.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
At least Spurs are helping us spare a bit of flack from the red shite!

Id take Klopp.

(Humour)
Levey and Maradona look comfortable with each other.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Escla on October 22, 2017, 10:27:35 PM
Nah heís shit.

Why single him out ? You think the entire team are shit ?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 22, 2017, 10:28:10 PM
Funny thing is, if Arsene Wenger was under any kind of pressure regarding his job, that pressure will have completely evaporated after today's game and performance - leaving the Piers Morgan Wenger Out brigade fuming in a way.
Ahh well thats made the loss and shit performance easier ...hate Piers Morgan the cuntish cunt.

Think we all joined in on the your getting sacked in the morning stuff. ..highlight of the second half. 😅
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 22, 2017, 10:29:20 PM
So he keeps holgate out on the lads birthday and throws kenny in against arsenal,, koemans a proper cunt aint he is he blatantly taking the piss or what
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 10:30:53 PM
Why single him out ? You think the entire team are shit ?

No, theyíre playing shit but we have some good players, Keane isnít one of them - heís a waste of £30m
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
Holgate made a discrete, easily identifiable mistake...but overall Keane and especially Martina were still worse.  Holgate should have at least made the bench so we had a CB option available.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 22, 2017, 10:34:16 PM
Holgate made a discrete, easily identifiable mistake...but overall Keane and especially Martina were still worse.  Holgate should have at least made the bench so we had a CB option available.


 And williams causes a riot and keeps his place
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 10:39:47 PM
Should never of changed formation
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 22, 2017, 10:49:45 PM
So he keeps holgate out on the lads birthday and throws kenny in against arsenal,, koemans a proper cunt aint he is he blatantly taking the piss or what

He didn't pick me on my birthday either
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
Blue in the boozer just summed up how a lot of us feel right night

"I hate Everton more than I hate Liverpool right now "
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 10:58:42 PM
The only positive today, this lad.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMwN4AHXkAIUw80.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 11:00:05 PM
Blue in the boozer just summed up how a lot of us feel right night

"I hate Everton more than I hate Liverpool right now "

That's about the only way we can keep the rivalry alive.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 11:12:14 PM
5-2! Fuckin pantomime. He's gone! - Oh no he hasn't!!...etc.

The Shite managed by Widow Twanky for an encore x

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:13:38 PM
Is he gone yet? Surely shouldn't take this long
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: ally2 on October 22, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
Fuck it I'm going to lay into Baines. He's been utter wank right at the moment we need and have needed him. He went missing when the Martinez project unfolded and he's done it again this time. As one of the senior players and an Evertonian, the club needed him (and Jags for that matter) to stand up and pull the team through difficult periods. He's at the back of queue hiding again because he knows most fans think he's a sound bloke. Did he have the same injury excuse under Martinez?  Does injury excuse him totally losing his man in defensive plays?  (2 laughable occasions today and against Brighton). And why do you see him shit out of headers and tackles. He isn't vocal on the pitch, and he doesn't speak to refs. Absolute pussy. Never mind he's still on a wage and he knows he's going to play anyway so it doesn't matter eh
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 11:27:48 PM
5-2! Fuckin pantomime. He's gone! - Oh no he hasn't!!...etc.

The Shite managed by Widow Twanky for an encore x


Widow Twanky Kinell, me screens full of sundi dinner
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 11:28:50 PM
Fuck it I'm going to lay into Baines. He's been utter wank right at the moment we need and have needed him. He went missing when the Martinez project unfolded and he's done it again this time. As one of the senior players and an Evertonian, the club needed him (and Jags for that matter) to stand up and pull the team through difficult periods. He's at the back of queue hiding again because he knows most fans think he's a sound bloke. Did he have the same injury excuse under Martinez?  Does injury excuse him totally losing his man in defensive plays?  (2 laughable occasions today and against Brighton). And why do you see him shit out of headers and tackles. He isn't vocal on the pitch, and he doesn't speak to refs. Absolute pussy. Never mind he's still on a wage and he knows he's going to play anyway so it doesn't matter eh

TBH Iv not been a fan of him for a while and thought we should have cashed when moyes went to Utd

Yes he's not been brilliant. But him and holgate are the victim of playing with 5 centre mids. Nobody in front of them they're litterally doing two jobs it doesn't work.

So many times I seen vlasic or sig win it in the middle and look out wide near the final third and there was just nobody there
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 11:30:33 PM
can't wait for the day when Martin Tyler retires
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:31:09 PM
Fuck it I'm going to lay into Baines. He's been utter wank right at the moment we need and have needed him. He went missing when the Martinez project unfolded and he's done it again this time. As one of the senior players and an Evertonian, the club needed him (and Jags for that matter) to stand up and pull the team through difficult periods. He's at the back of queue hiding again because he knows most fans think he's a sound bloke. Did he have the same injury excuse under Martinez?  Does injury excuse him totally losing his man in defensive plays?  (2 laughable occasions today and against Brighton). And why do you see him shit out of headers and tackles. He isn't vocal on the pitch, and he doesn't speak to refs. Absolute pussy. Never mind he's still on a wage and he knows he's going to play anyway so it doesn't matter eh

Spot on. Same with Jags. Our senior players for the past 3 seasons have been shambolic.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 11:31:36 PM
can't wait for the day when Martin Tyler retires

is right wrong thread
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
id rather Williams play than jags. Purely because he's assed and has abit of fight. Jags has never been a leader
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: MarcusFenix on October 22, 2017, 11:37:59 PM
Just read on skysports that Pickford only got a 5 today, I know that he had 5 put past him but he made several saves that kept the scoreline to single digits
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 11:38:02 PM
Williams is starting to turn things around and he is committed which is not easy to show in such a dire situation. Williams has bought himself some more time with me.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 11:42:24 PM
Fuck it I'm going to lay into Baines. He's been utter wank right at the moment we need and have needed him. He went missing when the Martinez project unfolded and he's done it again this time. As one of the senior players and an Evertonian, the club needed him (and Jags for that matter) to stand up and pull the team through difficult periods. He's at the back of queue hiding again because he knows most fans think he's a sound bloke. Did he have the same injury excuse under Martinez?  Does injury excuse him totally losing his man in defensive plays?  (2 laughable occasions today and against Brighton). And why do you see him shit out of headers and tackles. He isn't vocal on the pitch, and he doesn't speak to refs. Absolute pussy. Never mind he's still on a wage and he knows he's going to play anyway so it doesn't matter eh
Ive been saying the same for 12mths mate should have been replaced long since.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 11:42:32 PM
Should never of changed formation

He didn't give himself the option by not having another CB on the bench, and it was clear that Williams was odds on to either get sent-off or give away chances due to being reticent to risk a challenge.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:43:37 PM
He didn't give himself the option by not having another CB on the bench, and it was clear that Williams was odds on to either get sent-off or give away chances due to being reticent to risk a challenge.

He is a pro. He can play without getting another yellow.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 11:43:53 PM
Just read on skysports that Pickford only got a 5 today, I know that he had 5 put past him but he made several saves that kept the scoreline to single digits

That's criminal.  He's the only player of ours I'd rate above a 5, easily a 7 for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 11:45:17 PM
Williams is starting to turn things around and he is committed which is not easy to show in such a dire situation. Williams has bought himself some more time with me.

I don't know, just because he lost his cool the other night and should've been sent-off it hasn't suddenly made him a good player.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 11:46:06 PM
He is a pro. He can play without getting another yellow.

Didn't look that way in midweek.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 11:47:31 PM
Didn't look that way in midweek.

Rather have that than what followed today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 11:48:06 PM
I don't know, just because he lost his cool the other night and should've been sent-off it hasn't suddenly made him a good player.

I wasn't referring to that. He's looked more assured in his last three games and his demeanor in general is more positive. 
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 11:48:33 PM
Gana is also a seasoned pro.  Still got another yellow.  When you are a defensive-minded player under pressure, it can't always be avoided.

Especially after Thursday, Williams was going to be under heavy scrutiny.  Fair or not, it is what it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 11:49:45 PM
Thing is, Holgate's highest and best use is RCB in a 3 at the back, and Koeman refuses to use him there.  Even as a reserve today, when he preferred to scapegoat him at the expense of the useless Martina.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Escla on October 22, 2017, 11:55:06 PM
On a lighter note the Shite lost by a 3 goal margin too  :)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 22, 2017, 11:55:20 PM
I wasn't referring to that. He's looked more assured in his last three games and his demeanor in general is more positive. 

He has played better than he was, I agree.

However, he really does need replacing (when we hopefully get a new manager in)
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 11:58:55 PM
He has played better than he was, I agree.

However, he really does need replacing (when we hopefully get a new manager in)

He's been exposed like the rest of the defence. At least he's not thrown the towel in like some of his longer serving colleagues. 
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 23, 2017, 12:04:13 AM
He's been exposed like the rest of the defence. At least he's not thrown the towel in like some of his longer serving colleagues. 

His passion has impressed me, however, since showing it, he was lucky not to be sent-off in midweek and he was walking the same tightrope today.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: DanDan on October 23, 2017, 12:04:31 AM
Vlasic looked good when he has the chance to run at people but his defensive work is extremely poor. I like the lad but I'd say that he could have personally stopped at least four goals we've given away when he has been on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 23, 2017, 12:14:45 AM
Blue in the boozer just summed up how a lot of us feel right night

"I hate Everton more than I hate Liverpool right now "

It's just so fucking disappointing. Another false dawn. No one expected us to finish top 4 this season but we all hoped to see some sort of inprovement, a decent replacement for lukaku and an injection of pace. I'd love for the people who made the decisions on who we signed (and didn't sign) to come and explain their thinking because frankly it's utterly baffling. If any of us had suggested we just wouldn't bother signing a forward at the beginning of the window everyone would have laughed. We could go down. I'll be very surprised if 3 teams have produced worse league performances than us this season. On performances we should have maybe 2 points
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 23, 2017, 12:15:59 AM
Rather have that than what followed today.

If we'd have gone down to nine men, mate, we would've conceded more, plus Koeman would've had the excuse of being two players down to use as a bargaining chip.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 23, 2017, 12:16:50 AM
Fuck it I'm going to lay into Baines. He's been utter wank right at the moment we need and have needed him. He went missing when the Martinez project unfolded and he's done it again this time. As one of the senior players and an Evertonian, the club needed him (and Jags for that matter) to stand up and pull the team through difficult periods. He's at the back of queue hiding again because he knows most fans think he's a sound bloke. Did he have the same injury excuse under Martinez?  Does injury excuse him totally losing his man in defensive plays?  (2 laughable occasions today and against Brighton). And why do you see him shit out of headers and tackles. He isn't vocal on the pitch, and he doesn't speak to refs. Absolute pussy. Never mind he's still on a wage and he knows he's going to play anyway so it doesn't matter eh

He's finished. I said it at the time and got slaughtered for it. We should have took the brave decision to sell him to Utd and had a lot of money to replace him then commit to paying him even more money through his decline
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Terry from Town on October 23, 2017, 12:23:08 AM
We were unlucky today, thatís all. We go again COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 23, 2017, 12:31:31 AM
We were unlucky today, thatís all. We go again COYB

You're definitely taking the piss if you think we were unlucky.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: TheTone on October 23, 2017, 12:33:05 AM
We were unlucky today, thatís all. We go again COYB

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Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: blueToffee on October 23, 2017, 12:38:25 AM
We were unlucky today, thatís all. We go again COYB

We go again? Brendan is that you?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Omar on October 23, 2017, 01:06:32 AM
I'll bet Rom is completely arsed about leaving for MU now, isn't he?

 ::)

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 23, 2017, 01:07:33 AM
Vlasic looked good when he has the chance to run at people but his defensive work is extremely poor. I like the lad but I'd say that he could have personally stopped at least four goals we've given away when he has been on the pitch

Oh my .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: DanDan on October 23, 2017, 01:22:12 AM
We will fucking batter these .

Oh my.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 23, 2017, 01:37:34 AM
We were unlucky today, thatís all. We go again COYB

At least @BigWoodenSpoon (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=870) was a Kopite openly
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 23, 2017, 01:43:29 AM
At least @BigWoodenSpoon (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=870) was a Kopite openly

I think that's the thing. You've 2 choices be a good parody or be honest. Everyone knows. What's the point of him continuing as is.

Also his position is all a bit pointless now. Everything is a bit shit is pretty standard on here now. He needs to start again with a slightly daft positive outlook. Which in fairness to him he's attempting now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on October 23, 2017, 01:55:30 AM
He's finished. I said it at the time and got slaughtered for it. We should have took the brave decision to sell him to Utd and had a lot of money to replace him then commit to paying him even more money through his decline
I don't think it was a lot of money they wanted him and Fellani for not much. But I think that Garbutt might be worth a look again.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 23, 2017, 02:15:21 AM
Just made dinner. Lime and garlic roast chicken with stuffed peppers topped with 18 months aged cheddar and garlic bread. 1 1/2 hours to prepare and cook, 45 minutes eating, with Lord of the rings the Two Towers on the Tele to distract me, and then started to remember the game and the hammering we took. I can't be doing with the Koeman induced downers on a pleasant Sunday evening. Fuck me Ron; I thought you were the man for the job. shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 23, 2017, 02:23:44 AM
Just made dinner. Lime and garlic roast chicken with stuffed peppers topped with 18 months aged cheddar and garlic bread. 1 1/2 hours to prepare and cook, 45 minutes eating, with Lord of the rings the Two Towers on the Tele to distract me, and then started to remember the game and the hammering we took. I can't be doing with the Koeman induced downers on a pleasant Sunday evening. Fuck me Ron; I thought you were the man for the job. shakeyheadman
Put a pan pipes CD on mate and try and clear your knapper of the RK stuff,you know it will ruin that fabulous sounding dinner youve took hours to prep and cook.Bon appetite
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 23, 2017, 02:45:47 AM
sorry if this has been posted already

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: arteta4spain on October 23, 2017, 03:16:54 AM
sorry if this has been posted already

Andy Grey's passion to see us succeed and get out of this is clearly evident there saying the collective "we" when talking about the club.
John Collins can get to fuck though. Disrespectful twat. Laughing all the way through smug prick.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Ravardo on October 23, 2017, 03:24:16 AM
sorry if this has been posted already


Im sure in that the panel agree on its koeman whos signed the players and walsh just provided names and then 5 minutes later trevor says the problem is these players havent been bought by koeman?? and as for john collins he can just fuck off the twat
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 23, 2017, 03:27:54 AM
Im sure in that the panel agree on its koeman whos signed the players and walsh just provided names and then 5 minutes later trevor says the problem is these players havent been bought by koeman?? and as for john collins he can just fuck off the twat

yep i got the same, no one even queried trevor. lol ;/
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 23, 2017, 03:42:42 AM
John Collins just seemed to be a bit confused. I think the others were talking about competing in individual games and he seemed to think they were suggesting we should beat everyone

I think our biggest problem is obviously our inept recruitment. The people in the club know who made what decisions. We simply can't go into the next window with the people who fucked this 1 up making the decisions
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 23, 2017, 04:30:07 AM
Always disliked John Collins, dour and smug are a deadly combination 😁 
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 23, 2017, 04:34:28 AM
Oh my.

You are either 10 or a fucking idiot if you didn't get the sarcasm .
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: Lxxx on October 23, 2017, 04:46:17 AM
sorry if this has been posted already


Good watch that. Some good points. Shows weíre not alone in dissecting the current shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: toffee_scot on October 23, 2017, 05:20:20 AM
The contrast between Andy Gray and John Collins is like night and day.

The thing is Andy Gray gets Everton and he was part of the most successful side in the club's history, he has his finger on the pulse.

John Collins on the other hand played for Everton at a time when finishing below 13th in the league was normal, I'm not sure if he knows what NSNO stands for.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 05:43:53 AM
The thing is Andy Gray gets Everton and he was part of the most successful side in the club's history, he has his finger on the pulse.

He must have that finger in deep to feel our pulse right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 23, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
Good watch that. Some good points. Shows weíre not alone in dissecting the current shite.

The main thing i've got from watching a few of these from Bein Sports is that Andry Gray actually cares for Everton, Richard Keys seems some what partial to us aswell, while when they where on SKY, they seem to both hate us.

Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: sam of the south on October 23, 2017, 06:18:16 AM
He must have that finger in deep to feel our pulse right now.

That is just too carnal.

I feel queasy  :-X
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: gizzblue on October 23, 2017, 06:20:33 AM
The main thing i've got from watching a few of these from Bein Sports is that Andry Gray actually cares for Everton, Richard Keys seems some what partial to us aswell, while when they where on SKY, they seem to both hate us.
It's written into Sky contracts ...you have to show disdain for us 😅😅
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 06:37:24 AM
That is just too carnal.

I feel queasy  :-X

Don't you mean "queasier"?

Or have you not been watching Everton the past couple of months?
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: kramer0 on October 23, 2017, 09:30:35 AM
Im sure in that the panel agree on its koeman whos signed the players and walsh just provided names and then 5 minutes later trevor says the problem is these players havent been bought by koeman??

I thought I was losing my mind. Glad someone else noticed.

I guess it's a testament to how confusing our backroom setup is. It doesn't seem like anybody knows who does what.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 23, 2017, 09:46:47 AM
I thought I was losing my mind. Glad someone else noticed.

I guess it's a testament to how confusing our backroom setup is. It doesn't seem like anybody knows who does what.


I think we are all in the same boat. I've no idea myself what the set up is, and I don't think anyone else outside of the management of the club has either. It's the first time our club has worked with a director of football. It follows for that reason that It's of greater concern on this occasion, exactly, because of this different setup. At least when a manager did all the planning and player recruitment requests to the board, it narrowed down the field who was responsible for what.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 09:54:15 AM

I think we are all in the same boat. I've no idea myself what the set up is, and I don't think anyone else outside of the management of the club has either. It's the first time our club has worked with a director of football. It follows for that reason that It's of greater concern on this occasion, exactly, because of this different setup. At least when a manager did all the planning and player recruitment requests to the board, it narrowed down the field who was responsible for what.

Still, given the results, you can understand the appeal for people at the club of a set up with no clear accountability.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: pjk on October 23, 2017, 10:03:20 AM
Still, given the results, you can understand the appeal for people at the club of a set up with no clear accountability.



It doesn't help us as supporters though. I've supported Everton since I was 6. That's 54 years. It would break my heart to see a load of guys in suits ruin something that's been a part of my life for so long. It's early days in the fear stakes. It needs addressing as soon as is possible though. This is why sacking Koeman or letting him carry on is so crucial.
Title: Re: Everton v Arsenal
Post by: BlueMaquis on October 23, 2017, 11:41:39 AM
John Collins on the other hand played for Everton at a time when finishing below 13th in the league was normal, I'm not sure if he knows what NSNO stands for.

Sounds like he's closer to the club's current ethos than we are then.