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Title: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 03:20:54 PM
Moyes gossip:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/david-moyes-lined-up-sensational-11385759

- Would do well making our leaky defence a bit more solid, one of his strengths
- We all know he likes to play with a lot of midfielders and few strikers - a bit handy with our current squad
- Knows the club inside out
- Available and desperate to prove a point.

And of course, hes not the most exciting manager, though our football has been dreadful lately anyway. We may also stagnate again, with the risk of mediocrity probable. Very tough call to make,and a huge gamble. I really cant stand the football (or rather, lack of) that we are playing, so I personally would not mind seeing the back of Koeman and his coaching style and perhaps, as often is the way when a manager goes and a new one comes in - a turnaround and a change of fortune. Tough one to call.

But with our current squad, and maybe with Moyesies half decent transfer eye hat do others think? Im a bit on the fence, but what do others think?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: sirblue57 on October 22, 2017, 03:24:01 PM
As a SHORT TERM solution, say, with Unsworth. It may work. His experience leading Unsworth and seeing of he can make the jump from the u23s. Then yes.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
Id rather keep Koeman
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Brownie20 on October 22, 2017, 03:24:37 PM
No! Nein! Nah! Nope! Non! Nicht! Nadah!
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
I would bin my season ticket.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2017, 03:29:21 PM
Id rather shave my bollocks with a blunt Stanley knife and then moisturise with salt and vinegar
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: plumber on October 22, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
I would take him as a director of football.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Goaljira on October 22, 2017, 03:33:41 PM
Stolen from Watty on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/Porl1878/status/921998237179039744
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: KevtheRat on October 22, 2017, 03:40:32 PM
Id rather shave my bollocks with a blunt Stanley knife and then moisturise with salt and vinegar

So your not totally ruling it out then?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 22, 2017, 03:44:46 PM
I'd be done with Everton if he came back for as long as he was here.

Would take more interest in following my local league side.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: BlueForYou on October 22, 2017, 03:46:32 PM
Take the Scotland job, Davie

Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Ramjam on October 22, 2017, 03:48:52 PM
I think a lot of Evertonians forget what a shit hawk he was when he went to Man U then thought he could come in with an embarrassingly low offer for Baines , he doesnít give a fuck about Everton
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Bluebridge on October 22, 2017, 03:51:52 PM
Id rather shave my bollocks with a blunt Stanley knife and then moisturise with salt and vinegar
lolol
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Bluebridge on October 22, 2017, 03:55:02 PM
As a SHORT TERM solution, say, with Unsworth. It may work. His experience leading Unsworth and seeing of he can make the jump from the u23s. Then yes.
If it`s short term, then bypass Moyes and give it Unsworth short term, as caretaker with view to going back to U23`s or if he does ok then.................
Me, for now I`d rather keep Koeman, at least till Christmas.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: john e on October 22, 2017, 04:02:15 PM
What do they say  " Never go back"  So i'm not sure if Moyes would help?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 04:09:01 PM
I'm in just to witness the fume.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 22, 2017, 04:35:29 PM
I would sooner keep Koeman . Actually I would sooner have Roberto .
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Simon Paul on October 22, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
As long as there's a hole in my arse I will never watch an Everton team managed by that utter coward again.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Gumpinio on October 22, 2017, 04:46:40 PM
This thread has made me think, for the first time in a long time, we are really going to be in a relegation battle  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2017, 04:49:16 PM
It's like some peoples forget he's been sacked three times since he left us.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 04:57:05 PM
Id rather rub rough sandpaper over my bellend, that would be far less painful than seeing that twat back here
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: everton1952 on October 22, 2017, 05:22:50 PM
Is the source as good as mine which says Wagner of Huddersfield and Silva of Watford are top of our shortlist? It will be revealed next week with Silva ahead. The Moyes link is rubbish, unlike mine which comes straight out from  the front lobe of my crystal ball. Imagine two krauts managing on Merseyside!
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 22, 2017, 05:29:12 PM
Can we really be considering stuff like this, hope it's just paper shite.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: everton1952 on October 22, 2017, 05:30:22 PM
Of course it is shite, that is what makes it fun (for some).
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 05:31:15 PM
I agree never go back, but I cant believe the nasty negativity on Moyes.

So he tried to get a couple of our players when he went to Man U. That's what a lot of managers do, as they are the players they know well and trust.

Given the jobs the following manager's have done, and with £millions more to spend, I think the job Moyes did at Everton deserves him some respect at least.

In 11 years: 4th, 5th twice, 6th twice and 7th three times.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 22, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
In 11 years: 4th, 5th twice, 6th twice and 7th three times.

Whilst never winning a single game away from home (or even trying to for that matter) against a big club.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Macca77 on October 22, 2017, 05:51:36 PM
Whilst never winning a single game away from home (or even trying to for that matter) against a big club.

We got out alive though
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Toddacelli on October 22, 2017, 05:55:56 PM
Never go back.

Going back to my ex resulted in a horrible divorce.

Even when we went back to Howard Kendal (RIP) it didn't work. In these situations you have to put it down to experience and move forward. Always forward. Never back.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 22, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
I think a lot of Evertonians forget what a shit hawk he was when he went to Man U then thought he could come in with an embarrassingly low offer for Baines , he doesnít give a fuck about Everton

Baby don't fear the Reaper........
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: AllyBlue14 on October 22, 2017, 06:05:09 PM
Moyes has been been the most 'successful' (without ever winning anything) manager in my time supporting Everton. Brought stability when we needed it, put together our best squad in recent years on a shoestring and made us a fixture in the upper echelons of the table. He did a lot of good for us and I shudder to think where we'd have been without him.

His game plan was effective - if a little stodgy at times - but built around the unit. It's clear to me how much Lukaku, and perhaps to a lesser extent Barkley, papered over the cracks of the Martinez and Koeman philosophies. Most things will look good if you have a 20-goal-a-season striker knocking them in, but we saw on Lukaku's quiet days the frailty of the systems.

And now we're paying the price for failing to bring in either a target man and/or any kind of pace option (and a reluctance to use those we do have).

All this said, however, Moyes lost a lot of respect with the 'get out alive' and 'holding back their careers' comments. No-one could really begrudge him his move to United, but his attitude after left a lot to be desired.

Plus, I think the game has moved on from his style a little bit. Perhaps it's harsh to judge him on his time at United, Real Sociedad and Sunderland (enormous, unrealistic expectations after Ferguson - completely different league, obviously a duck out of water - sinking ship, which ambitious players would want to join Sunderland?). But I don't think the 4-1-4-1 formation is currently used to great effect any more in the PL.

I still think he could do a job at a well-run, mid-table club and improve their fortunes. To many outsiders, that is what Everton are at the moment, and given his affiliation in the past, it's not an unreasonable shout. I'd probably take him over Koeman right now. But I think most of us would agree it'd be a massive backwards step and there are other options we'd be better off pursuing.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: blue1948 on October 22, 2017, 06:05:34 PM
As long as there's a hole in my arse I will never watch an Everton team managed by that utter coward again.
I want to say the same but the truth is I could never keep to it .Once a blue and all that shit
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: blue1948 on October 22, 2017, 06:08:57 PM
Of course it is shite, that is what makes it fun (for some).
I agree never go back, but I cant believe the nasty negativity on Moyes.

So he tried to get a couple of our players when he went to Man U. That's what a lot of managers do, as they are the players they know well and trust.

Given the jobs the following manager's have done, and with £millions more to spend, I think the job Moyes did at Everton deserves him some respect at least.

In 11 years: 4th, 5th twice, 6th twice and 7th three times.
Respect like him running down his contract and Utd getting for free Fuck him and all who sail with him .It would really be one of the saddest days of my life.Well no fucking many of them!!
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: blueToffee on October 22, 2017, 06:12:14 PM
He does have a decent eye for an up and coming player. If not be adverse to him heading up the scouting network as weíre still looking at that type of player.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
I would take him as a director of football.
I wouldn't let him direct traffic on Goodison road.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 06:24:43 PM
fucking hell
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
Fuck that right off.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 22, 2017, 06:28:09 PM
Logs on, seeís Moyes thread, logs off.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Redartin on October 22, 2017, 06:29:02 PM
All that money and we have two options:

Keep Koeman or

Bring back Moyes

Really?
Is that it?
What has become of us?
Has someone red shite gypsy put a curse on us?

There has to be a Plan C. Leicester have a better listed linked with them,with Pelligrini 2/1 fav in the bookies. But we have Moyes and Koeman. Even if you took the best bits of both and fucked in a few Martinez pieces your still only ending up with a Klopp like idiot.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
I agree never go back, but I cant believe the nasty negativity on Moyes.

So he tried to get a couple of our players when he went to Man U. That's what a lot of managers do, as they are the players they know well and trust.

Given the jobs the following manager's have done, and with £millions more to spend, I think the job Moyes did at Everton deserves him some respect at least.

In 11 years: 4th, 5th twice, 6th twice and 7th three times.
I never meant to like that, the wanker was talking to utd for the last 12mnths of his everton contract knowing full well he was going there and had no intention of signing a deal with us,therefore costing Utd fuck all,absolute fucking Rat.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: plumber on October 22, 2017, 06:43:35 PM
I never meant to like that, the wanker was talking to utd for the last 12mnths of his everton contract knowing full well he was going there and had no intention of signing a deal with us,therefore costing Utd fuck all,absolute fucking Rat.

Calm down mate, you'll get a stroke.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 06:47:37 PM
Farhad "Bill, how do we stop the fans putting so much pressure on Ronald?"

Bill "I've got this Mosh"
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 06:48:47 PM
Good move if temporary, the players need to know the Everton ethos, Koeman has no idea what Everton stands for or its tradition, koeman has made us very un Everton like.

I'd be up for Moyes and Unsworth... see how they get on.. im pretty sure they will turn the team around..
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
Calm down mate, you'll get a stroke.
Who off?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:03:23 PM
Farhad "Bill, how do we stop the fans putting so much pressure on Ronald?"

Bill "I've got this Mosh"

Farhad, "Bill, how do we get fans to love David Unsworth the minute we sack Koeman".

Bill, "Leave this to me".
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Silas on October 22, 2017, 07:03:58 PM
Who off?

Steve Round
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 22, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Good move if temporary, the players need to know the Everton ethos, Koeman has no idea what Everton stands for or its tradition, koeman has made us very un Everton like.

I'd be up for Moyes and Unsworth... see how they get on.. im pretty sure they will turn the team around..

It's not a good move in any capacity
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
British media guest on NBC thinks this is Moyes-planted shite, but that Koeman is very, very close to getting the sack.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Confucius on October 22, 2017, 07:22:34 PM
Is the source as good as mine which says Wagner of Huddersfield and Silva of Watford are top of our shortlist? It will be revealed next week with Silva ahead. The Moyes link is rubbish, unlike mine which comes straight out from  the front lobe of my crystal ball. Imagine two krauts managing on Merseyside!

Can you stop with the racist references. I understand it's words you grew up using but it doesn't mean it's ok and it's right.

Be a miserable old man, sure. Just stop being racist while you at it.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: GoodisonPk on October 22, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
Talk about going backwards. There is no way he will be rehired
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 22, 2017, 07:26:58 PM
I wasn't too happy when he left, but a return would be a poor direction to head in.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Bluedylan on October 22, 2017, 07:29:21 PM
Stop giving this utter drivel, pasted together by a journeyman hack, any credence. It ain't happening, bruv.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 22, 2017, 08:11:26 PM
Iím probably largely on my own with this one but id rather have him back than Martinez, and Iíd take him over Koeman who is clueless.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: TheTone on October 22, 2017, 09:31:42 PM
I'd rather big fathead Sam, I'd rather fireman fucking Sam actually
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: boothill on October 22, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
Id rather shave my bollocks with a blunt Stanley knife and then moisturise with salt and vinegar
thats alright that ya know
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
Iíd take him back right now
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:42:42 PM
I'd rather Moyes than Fat Sam, but I'd have about 100 names on my list ahead of Moyes.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2017, 09:43:26 PM
Iíd take him back right now

Why would you take back someone who's spent 11 years here?

There are other managers out there. A lot are actually better than David Moyes.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:44:14 PM
Why would you take back someone who's spent 11 years here?

There are other managers out there. A lot are actually better than David Moyes.

Because heís better than Koeman. Name me some of these better managers who are out there
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
Iíd take him back right now

That's because you're a troll a looks to strike a reaction with every post.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
Because heís better than Koeman. Name me some of these better managers who are out there

There's obviously loads of managers we can get that aren't David Moyes like.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:46:02 PM
That's because you're a troll a looks to strike a reaction with every post.

No, thatís because thatís my opinion, nothing more or less
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 09:46:26 PM
There's obviously loads of managers we can get that aren't David Moyes like.

Name them
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: toffee_scot on October 22, 2017, 09:56:58 PM
Bloody typical that David Moyes' name is mentioned and I think we will be perpetually linked as long as there is a risk or a certainty of an Everton manager losing their job - it's almost like he is seen as our insurance policy should things go completely tits up like this season.

We need to move on and show a lot more ambition than suggesting a manager who hasn't been at the club for 4 and a half years and finished last  season rock bottom with his last club the previous season.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 22, 2017, 09:59:29 PM
It's just like last time the job came open, Moyes' name is in the media because he planted it there.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 09:59:51 PM
Can just see the interview now

"My first job is to get us to 40 points..."
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 22, 2017, 10:02:36 PM
The man achieved nothing. Let him fuck off to international management.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Can just see the interview now

"My first job is to get us to 40 points..."

To be fair whoever comes in will open their first press conference with that.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 10:05:47 PM
To be fair whoever comes in will open their first press conference with that.

Not if Bill gets in there first and says how the new manager promised him Champions League and a pony.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 10:07:22 PM
The man achieved nothing. Let him fuck off to international management.

Heís the reason Everton are still a premiership team -another one with a short memory
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Waltzer on October 22, 2017, 10:12:03 PM
How can you say no other manger would have achieved the same? He was good for us as we were for him, but things move on and he'd  be a massive step back
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 10:21:04 PM
I reckon it could be a case of Moyes until the end of the season. AND IF he/we do well, the full time job will be offered to him. I woulnd be too excited and there are surely many better managers out there, but this wouldnt surprise me one bit.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Everton Mint on October 22, 2017, 10:33:12 PM
Bigger question is who else would take the job now, especially in our position and with still over two months until the transfer window opens ?

OK so some would take the job... but just for the sake of having a job and the money.

But who would take it at this point and genuinely care whether they turned us around ?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Martip on October 22, 2017, 10:35:12 PM
I know people aren't keen and if I'm honest I'm not sure I am but Big Sam would be a better option than koeman.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 10:44:48 PM
I reckon it could be a case of Moyes until the end of the season. AND IF he/we do well, the full time job will be offered to him. I woulnd be too excited and there are surely many better managers out there, but this wouldnt surprise me one bit.
A stop-gap appointment would just add to the confusion and general sense of farce that surrounds the club.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Coyb12 on October 22, 2017, 10:46:51 PM
Bigger question is who else would take the job now, especially in our position and with still over two months until the transfer window opens ?

OK so some would take the job... but just for the sake of having a job and the money.

But who would take it at this point and genuinely care whether they turned us around ?
It's got Big Sam written all over it.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 10:47:10 PM
It wouldnt be one, thats the point. If he did well, it would be full time. Quite an incentive because we r still a fucking brilliant football club at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 22, 2017, 10:47:22 PM
How did Moyes do the last time he was brought in to save a relegation threatened club?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: bluestevie on October 22, 2017, 10:49:26 PM
Name them

Ancelotti, Tuchel, Silva there's 3 right there
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on October 22, 2017, 10:52:33 PM
Someone not just like Ancelotti, but Ancelotti and a team of proven footballing coaches that he knows. Our distinct lack of footballing know how as well aas ability needs addressing from all angles of the game.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Realist on October 22, 2017, 10:53:02 PM
Ancelotti, Tuchel, Silva there's 3 right there

If you think any of those would take the job youíre deluded
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 22, 2017, 11:01:31 PM
It's got Big Sam written all over it.

Is it a brown envelope stuffed with used twenty pound notes?
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: bluestevie on October 22, 2017, 11:01:59 PM
If you think any of those would take the job youíre deluded

Not what you asked, you asked for names of managers better than Moyes, I gave you 3 names. All would take the job, not about delusion,  of the three Tuchel would probably the hardest to convince though
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 22, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
Not what you asked, you asked for names of managers better than Moyes, I gave you 3 names. All would take the job, not about delusion,  of the three Tuchel would probably the hardest to convince though

This is a symptom of the poor atmosphere at our games. Fans have an opinion of where Everton stand in football that is way out of touch with the rest of the football world.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: 74Blue on October 22, 2017, 11:06:43 PM
Is it a brown envelope stuffed with used twenty pound notes?
No. It's a big tray of Wright's Steak & Ale pies, with the promise of more where they came from.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Shogun on October 22, 2017, 11:08:21 PM
We can attract better than Moyes.

Eddie Howe and Roberto Mancini to name two.

Not that I would want either.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 05:45:54 AM
Id rather shave my bollocks with a blunt Stanley knife and then moisturise with salt and vinegar

Bit extreme. Might want to save that for a 'hire back Martinez' thread.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 23, 2017, 06:49:21 AM
Leave him to reminisce about steadying the ship, like he was the fucking chosen one!  If it wasn't him, it'd have been someone else, maybe someone with a set of actual balls.  We'll never know, but still...

Moyes, those who left him in charge for that stupid number of years, and some the stupid signings he made - Fuckoff Neville, I'm looking at you, you bad tit - made us cozy, warm, little, overachieving Everton, bringing knives to gunfights.

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That is all.





Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 23, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Leave him to reminisce about steadying the ship, like he was the fucking chosen one!  If it wasn't him, it'd have been someone else, maybe someone with a set of actual balls.  We'll never know, but still...

Moyes, those who left him in charge for that stupid number of years, and some the stupid signings he made - Fuckoff Neville, I'm looking at you, you bad tit - made us cozy, warm, little, overachieving Everton, bringing knives to gunfights.

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That is all.

Don't want Moyes back. But we've since become 'laughable, underachieving Everton' with average finishes on par with Moyes's.

That despite Moyes inheriting a dogshit squad and having a zero net spend during his decade+ here while other clubs were splurging like drunken sailors. Yet he got us fourth one season and made us a tough team no one wanted to play against and also brought in a lot of players for bargain prices who had good long runs with the club. He set up the club for long-term sustainability and, with a little cash, could have had us in the CL. You could be proud of the team then.

The two buffoons since inherited a pretty good side from Moyes and have spent a lot of money and brought in almost no good players. And put us in a position where we better get a very good manager and transfer market operator in here soon or we'll likely be looking at relegation battles for years to come.

You may scoff at the old 'plucky little Everton label' and the supposedly modest achievement of 'righting the ship.' But the ship was sinking toward relegation when Moyes showed up. He gave us an admirable identity one could be proud, if not overly entertained, to support.. As opposed to the  "League One side Everton" identity that seemed to be in the cards then with Kenwright as owner.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: kramer0 on October 23, 2017, 09:42:17 AM
The whole getting-the-gang-back-together act last season at Sunderland was essentially proof that he's finished. He looked totally out of ideas and got the results to match.

I respect the stability he gave us when he was here but that doesn't make him a suitable candidate for now.
Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: bluenuck on October 23, 2017, 11:43:00 AM
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Title: Re: Moyes Return Linked
Post by: christiffa25 on October 23, 2017, 02:06:43 PM
I was a big moyes fan whilst he was here. Thought taking everything into account he did a brilliant job. And would always liked to have seen what he could do with some cash.

However, even I don't think that would be a good idea now. That's not to say I'm not fully confident he wouldn't do a good job. BUT we're supposed to be moving forward and making statements, closing on the so called bigger teams. We need a big name manager. Who can bring in big name players.

Short term? It wouldn't be short term as he'd do a good job. And then we're settling for being a mid range club off the pitch.

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Post by: Escla on October 23, 2017, 02:24:05 PM
Wasn't Koeman meant to be a "big name " ?
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Post by: Duncs_a_legend on October 23, 2017, 02:44:34 PM
Very little chance of us getting Ancelotti, Silva or Tuchel
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Post by: gizzblue on October 23, 2017, 03:54:08 PM
Very little chance of us getting Ancelotti, Silva or Tuchel
Why ?.
Any real good manager would relish a challenge ..be offered finances to build a squad..a new stadium to come a good fan base in a club that's got ideas on moving forward (despite recent results) ....also are paying top wack money in a manager's world .

I know I've took jobs through financial rewards and bonuses ...what makes them different ?.
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Post by: everton1952 on October 23, 2017, 03:55:38 PM
Who would want any of those three anyway?
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Post by: Polledreng on October 23, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
Why ?.
Any real good manager would relish a challenge ..be offered finances to build a squad..a new stadium to come a good fan base in a club that's got ideas on moving forward (despite recent results) ....also are paying top wack money in a manager's world .

I know I've took jobs through financial rewards and bonuses ...what makes them different ?.
can you tell me why the choose CL teams instead  ? no big name manager would like to manage HSV if the can get Dortmund or Bayern instead
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Post by: Hawkandro on October 23, 2017, 04:14:04 PM
Everton can fuck off if they bother bringing Moyes back. Would rather see Big Sam or Dyche than Moyes.
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Post by: gizzblue on October 23, 2017, 04:38:24 PM
can you tell me why the choose CL teams instead  ? no big name manager would like to manage HSV if the can get Dortmund or Bayern instead
Well ffs empty question or what. ..champions league is just that .... many of them CL teams looking for managers at the min ?.
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Post by: Rhys on October 23, 2017, 05:14:54 PM
Why ?.
Any real good manager would relish a challenge ..be offered finances to build a squad..a new stadium to come a good fan base in a club that's got ideas on moving forward (despite recent results) ....also are paying top wack money in a manager's world .

I know I've took jobs through financial rewards and bonuses ...what makes them different ?.

Ancelotti no way he would want it even if we offered him 10-15m a year in my opinion. He manages top teams with top players, why would he walk into a club in crisis in a relegation zone with level of players he wont have managed in decades?

Tuchel, outside possibility. We could throw huge money at him but it would be a massive risk for him. He spent time building up his reputation at Mainz and got the dortmund job, did ok there without being spectacular. But he is very highly rated and wanted coach, many believe he didnt do more at Dortmund because of Bayern's superiority. He is linked with Chelsea in the summer so if there is a chance he gets that job it's likely hed rather wait and see what happens rather than if he did badly with us it could stop him from getting future big jobs and he'd have to start again.

Silva i just dont see him coming right now, maybe in the summer. He is 9 league games into his new job with Watford and it is going really well. It's going to be very hard to keep that going but the way we are going there is a chance for them to finish 7th given there is no obviously good other team outside the top 6 right now. That could get them into Europe potentially and his reputation was good before Hull, strengthened even though they went down and is now rising very highly with what he is doing at Watford. Again if he left now and struggled to get us going his reputation will falter and have to re-build. Plus it wouldnt look great him leaving a quarter of a season into his new job.
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Post by: Normm on October 23, 2017, 08:35:38 PM
NO! Moyse? Look what happened to Sunderland. That would be absolutely dire.
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Post by: BlueForYou on October 23, 2017, 08:40:12 PM
Moyes left us because he wanted to move up the ladder - no need to come back down, Davie

In Moyes We Don't
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Post by: gizzblue on October 23, 2017, 08:43:47 PM
Ancelotti no way he would want it even if we offered him 10-15m a year in my opinion. He manages top teams with top players, why would he walk into a club in crisis in a relegation zone with level of players he wont have managed in decades?

Tuchel, outside possibility. We could throw huge money at him but it would be a massive risk for him. He spent time building up his reputation at Mainz and got the dortmund job, did ok there without being spectacular. But he is very highly rated and wanted coach, many believe he didnt do more at Dortmund because of Bayern's superiority. He is linked with Chelsea in the summer so if there is a chance he gets that job it's likely hed rather wait and see what happens rather than if he did badly with us it could stop him from getting future big jobs and he'd have to start again.

Silva i just dont see him coming right now, maybe in the summer. He is 9 league games into his new job with Watford and it is going really well. It's going to be very hard to keep that going but the way we are going there is a chance for them to finish 7th given there is no obviously good other team outside the top 6 right now. That could get them into Europe potentially and his reputation was good before Hull, strengthened even though they went down and is now rising very highly with what he is doing at Watford. Again if he left now and struggled to get us going his reputation will falter and have to re-build. Plus it wouldnt look great him leaving a quarter of a season into his new job.
ok so that's your opinion on three managers and thanks for that but who knows what 'they' actually think themselves ?,.we can speculate all we want .
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Post by: southtoff on October 23, 2017, 08:56:21 PM
As a fan living in Bournemouth I think we should get Eddie Howe... He gives young players a chance, plays attractive attacking football and is a boyhood Evertonian
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Post by: everton1952 on October 23, 2017, 09:02:37 PM
God help us if we go for Howe. We are not yet Bournemouth. Nice chap though. 
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Post by: BlueBeagle on October 23, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Ancelotti no way he would want it even if we offered him 10-15m a year in my opinion. He manages top teams with top players, why would he walk into a club in crisis in a relegation zone with level of players he wont have managed in decades?

Tuchel, outside possibility. We could throw huge money at him but it would be a massive risk for him. He spent time building up his reputation at Mainz and got the dortmund job, did ok there without being spectacular. But he is very highly rated and wanted coach, many believe he didnt do more at Dortmund because of Bayern's superiority. He is linked with Chelsea in the summer so if there is a chance he gets that job it's likely hed rather wait and see what happens rather than if he did badly with us it could stop him from getting future big jobs and he'd have to start again.

Silva i just dont see him coming right now, maybe in the summer. He is 9 league games into his new job with Watford and it is going really well. It's going to be very hard to keep that going but the way we are going there is a chance for them to finish 7th given there is no obviously good other team outside the top 6 right now. That could get them into Europe potentially and his reputation was good before Hull, strengthened even though they went down and is now rising very highly with what he is doing at Watford. Again if he left now and struggled to get us going his reputation will falter and have to re-build. Plus it wouldnt look great him leaving a quarter of a season into his new job.

Spot on
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Post by: blueToffee on October 23, 2017, 09:18:24 PM
Ancelotti no way he would want it even if we offered him 10-15m a year in my opinion. He manages top teams with top players, why would he walk into a club in crisis in a relegation zone with level of players he wont have managed in decades?

Tuchel, outside possibility. We could throw huge money at him but it would be a massive risk for him. He spent time building up his reputation at Mainz and got the dortmund job, did ok there without being spectacular. But he is very highly rated and wanted coach, many believe he didnt do more at Dortmund because of Bayern's superiority. He is linked with Chelsea in the summer so if there is a chance he gets that job it's likely hed rather wait and see what happens rather than if he did badly with us it could stop him from getting future big jobs and he'd have to start again.

Silva i just dont see him coming right now, maybe in the summer. He is 9 league games into his new job with Watford and it is going really well. It's going to be very hard to keep that going but the way we are going there is a chance for them to finish 7th given there is no obviously good other team outside the top 6 right now. That could get them into Europe potentially and his reputation was good before Hull, strengthened even though they went down and is now rising very highly with what he is doing at Watford. Again if he left now and struggled to get us going his reputation will falter and have to re-build. Plus it wouldnt look great him leaving a quarter of a season into his new job.


Yep. All this. I don't think Ancelotti would come here but I don't think he'd be the right fit given our situation.

Tuchel and Silva I could definitely get behind, but again for the reasons stated would be unlikely. Tuchel of the two crazily would probably be the most likely if we were willing to throw cash around as he is out of a job and may see it on balance as positive risk/reward as we're so unorganized he might feel he can swoop in and enhance his reputation on a short term contract. Clutching at straws maybe there.

Silva...can't see him quitting. It's not like we're Man Utd or Real Madrid and this is a once in a lifetime opportunity that people would understand and it'd not seem like a mark against his professionalism. For the cash on offer if we did turn our fortunes somewhat around he would you'd imagine be attainable in the summer.
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Post by: Rhys on October 23, 2017, 10:05:58 PM
ok so that's your opinion on three managers and thanks for that but who knows what 'they' actually think themselves ?,.we can speculate all we want .


Yes that's my opinion but in regards to Ancelotti the clubs he's managed in the last 20 years are Juve, milan, Chelsea, PSG, Real madrid and Bayern Munich. At 58 with league titles in 4 of the 5 major leagues in Europe, 3 Champions Leagues and countless cups in that time I'm not sure we need to hear from Carlo himself to hear him say i dont want to take over the team 18th in the premier league right now who've not won a trophy for 22 years!
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Post by: boothill on October 23, 2017, 10:15:23 PM
As a fan living in Bournemouth I think we should get Eddie Howe... He gives young players a chance, plays attractive attacking football and is a boyhood Evertonian
You are just after a lift to the game
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Post by: therealdunc on October 23, 2017, 11:28:00 PM
Why would Moyes deserve the chance?

I canít see any reason
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Post by: blob on October 23, 2017, 11:30:37 PM
a simple 'fuck off.'