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Title: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 30, 2017, 09:38:02 PM
So, we all agree we need a good striker in Jan to get us more goals. Giroud ain't happening so who realistically could we get  (assuming they'd want to come here)

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on October 30, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
Welbeck, deeny or zaha
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on October 30, 2017, 09:53:12 PM
Welbeck, deeny or zaha

Welbeck - Injury prone and shit
Deeney -  Fat and very shit
Zaha - Would cost 40+ million not shit though
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on October 30, 2017, 10:00:14 PM
Welbeck - Injury prone and shit
Deeney -  Fat and very shit
Zaha - Would cost 40+ million not shit though

CP would never sell Zaha either, he's literally the only way they're likely to stay up.

Welbeck is too injury prone for us to take that gamble. Don't think he's shit, but his finishing is hit or miss. The far bigger issue is that we can't pin our hopes on a striker that could very easily be missing huge chunks of time.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on October 30, 2017, 10:08:47 PM
Welbeck - Injury prone and shit
Deeney -  Fat and very shit
Zaha - Would cost 40+ million not shit though
Right now i would have deeney in the team before anything weve got, wellbeck is a tad injury prone like
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 30, 2017, 10:12:13 PM
We need at least 2 strikers. Absolutely no clue who although aren't a couple we were linked with from la liga doing quite well still.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on October 30, 2017, 10:12:42 PM
Welbeck, deeny or zaha
Weve got this level or the likes of the super strikers like aguerro sanchez lukaku, kane . Even giraud turned us down, were not in a milion years going to attract one of them
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on October 30, 2017, 10:26:24 PM
Id go for Kevin Gamerio, proven track record and is looking for a move
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GLewis on October 30, 2017, 10:26:29 PM
Weve got this level or the likes of the super strikers like aguerro sanchez lukaku, kane . Even giraud turned us down, were not in a milion years going to attract one of them

Giroud was a specific personal choice rather than just footballing reasons.

Anyway we don’t need to focus purely on players who hold the ball up as that’s not necessarily a new manager's prime tactical focus.

There should be lots of options.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GLewis on October 30, 2017, 10:26:40 PM
Plus a guaranteed start!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on October 30, 2017, 10:29:34 PM
Kevin Campbell. It worked the last time. :)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on October 30, 2017, 10:29:36 PM
Giroud for me, just send his Mrs some flyers about how amazing the city is, offer her some money off vouchers for the Met Quarter
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cozzie on October 30, 2017, 10:32:24 PM
Dzeko if its still possible would be a good shout.

Willian Jose has been on fire lately I know we where linked with him.

Alot depends on who we bring in as manager because if its Allardyce then Andy Carroll.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GLewis on October 30, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
It’s surely the easiest search ever as there is no current option.

So there’s no consideration of whether they’re better than what we have, whether they compliment the other strikers etc.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: hill135 on October 30, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
Wang the entire contents of moshiri’s wallet on Belotti
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Major Clanger on October 30, 2017, 10:42:01 PM
Anyone really.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on October 30, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
Wang the entire contents of moshiri’s wallet on Belotti

Should've done that in the summer. Maybe they tried and he wasn't interested, but I don't think we did as there wasn't even a sniff of it really in the media. He had a buyout clause too.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on October 30, 2017, 10:49:20 PM
Dzeko if its still possible would be a good shout.

Willian Jose has been on fire lately I know we where linked with him.

Alot depends on who we bring in as manager because if its Allardyce then Andy Carroll.
Jose only scored 3 in la liga this season, sandro bagged 14 last season and cant get a look in here, doesnt bode well, like dzeko tho, lazy get at times but scores goals
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 30, 2017, 10:53:58 PM
Belotti gives me the impression of someone who would score 1 in 32 in England then would sign for Napoli and score 38 in his first season back in Italy
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 30, 2017, 10:54:41 PM
Charlie Austin
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on October 30, 2017, 10:55:16 PM
Belotti gives me the impression of someone who would score 1 in 32 in England then would sign for Napoli and score 38 in his first season back in Italy

Let's just sign the whole Napoli team then.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on October 30, 2017, 10:57:19 PM
There aren't many in the PL that are obvious choices that would be available. I think we're going to be forced to look to the continent for some options.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: everton1952 on October 30, 2017, 11:02:08 PM
Please no more "oh, he will need time to adjust cos their league is not as physical as ours" (no names no pack drill). In other words no foreign wannabees. Foreign great strikers would hardly join us anyway. Are there absolutely no half-decent strikers in the entire Championship, just to get us over this season? This is always assuming we still can't score goals by the year end.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Redartin on October 30, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Dyche will bring Wood with him.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 30, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
Cavani
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Polledreng on October 30, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
Please no more "oh, he will need time to adjust cos their league is not as physical as ours" (no names no pack drill). In other words no foreign wannabees. Foreign great strikers would hardly join us anyway. Are there absolutely no half-decent strikers in the entire Championship, just to get us over this season? This is always assuming we still can't score goals by the year end.
Watched Wolves Preston the Day before Iheaded north for the Arsenal game Very impressed with Leo Bonatini.. Brazilian though so dont know if that will do
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 30, 2017, 11:42:37 PM
Wang the entire contents of moshiri’s wallet on Belotti
I think he means realistically.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cozzie on October 31, 2017, 12:26:48 AM
Dyche will bring Wood with him.

Is the Everton job THAT exciting to take on?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 31, 2017, 12:30:07 AM
Probably someone like Remy or Andre Gray will be the best we could get in Jan. Don't see us getting long term strikers in apart from short term fixes.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 31, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
Probably someone like Remy or Andre Gray will be the best we could get in Jan. Don't see us getting long term strikers in apart from short term fixes.
Remy can't get in the las palmas side and they are shite.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on October 31, 2017, 12:40:38 AM
Anyone that's not playing in the Dutch league
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 31, 2017, 12:42:18 AM
Remy can't get in the las palmas side and they are shite.

So are we, shite that is, but he'd get into our team
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Heisenberg on October 31, 2017, 12:44:13 AM
Belotti and Gameiro! hahaha I'll take whatever you guys are smoking.


Any ounce of pulling power we may have had is now gone. We wont even have europa to offer next year after this mess
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 31, 2017, 12:44:42 AM
So are we, shite that is, but he'd get into our team
No mate he really wouldn't.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 31, 2017, 12:47:32 AM
No mate he really wouldn't.

Anything is possible. Go into a season without a recognised forward remember and we brought in a 4th choice Southampton RB. This is Everton  ;)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Coyb12 on October 31, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
Anything is possible. Go into a season without a recognised forward remember and we brought in a 4th choice Southampton RB. This is Everton  ;)
Allardyce doesn't like him.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on October 31, 2017, 01:51:50 AM
Belotti and Gameiro! hahaha I'll take whatever you guys are smoking.


Any ounce of pulling power we may have had is now gone. We wont even have europa to offer next year after this mess
No chance of Belotti, but I don't see why Gamerio wouldn't be an option? 4th choice at atletico, wants to play, he isn't top, top draw and is by all accounts available
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on October 31, 2017, 01:54:07 AM
Carlton Cole is available, Big Sam loves him
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on October 31, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
I don't know but as stated we've got a fairly low starting point.

I do know also that a striker isn't the only player we need.

1. Mobile Cb. Ball playing Cb. If we can get one player who does both great.
2. Deputy / replacement for both full backs. Youth, pace and the ability to cross the ball needed.
3. Forward thinking central midfielder. We have plenty of energy and plenty of safe sideways merchants, we need a string puller desperately.
4. Pace. I know bolassie is due back, but a natural widemen capable of playing at pace and committing opposition defenders are absolutely vital in the prem. Zaha would be my first choice, Redmond plan B.

I suppose whoever we get in will need what he needs, he may have a different view on the squad or whatever, but from a squad building POV youth, athletic ability and pure pace will always give you options to shape something with.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on October 31, 2017, 02:48:44 AM
benteke anyone ?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 31, 2017, 02:51:35 AM
Has he been playing?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on October 31, 2017, 02:52:40 AM
Has he been playing?

Had a knee injury for the last few weeks I think.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Confucius on October 31, 2017, 03:15:27 AM
Whoever Tuchel wants
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on October 31, 2017, 04:12:23 AM
Not as clear as it was really, because we don't know what the new man would need.

Looking at it from pure want-what-we-don't-have; we don't have any sort of hold up play, we also don't have any sort of link-up play and we also don't have any sort of pace...

So we add any of that, we do it for the right reasons, and we do it in a coherent strategy of building a team in a certain direction then great news. However if we hire like a pressing manager and add a slow lump, we're possibly fucked.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ramjam on October 31, 2017, 04:24:35 AM
Celtic will be out of the champions league by January so I’d go in and make an offer for Tienery and  Dembele
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on October 31, 2017, 04:28:10 AM
Celtic will be out of the champions league by January so I’d go in and make an offer for Tienery and  Dembele

Yea there's about 5 Celtic players I'd have here tbh, looks like a goldmine to me atm.

Unfortunately Tierney has just signed a mazzy new deal about 6 years I think.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 31, 2017, 04:33:50 AM
Yeah it’s a sixer. Wouldn’t say he’d be hard to get if the likes of Utd come calling, he’s probs just in it for the fat payout he’ll get from the fee.

Doubt we’d get him though. We should have pulled the trigger on that one a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 31, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
Let's get Redknapp in to manage followed by Crouch and Defoe up top.... wait, what do you mean this isn't 2007?!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 31, 2017, 04:54:12 AM
Celtic will be out of the champions league by January so I’d go in and make an offer for Tienery and  Dembele

Hasn't Tienery just signed a 6 year contract. Sure I read that today
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on October 31, 2017, 05:10:04 AM
Charlie Austin

Good shout. Underrated and underused at Southampton.
Title: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ramjam on October 31, 2017, 05:12:27 AM
Hasn't Tienery just signed a 6 year contract. Sure I read that today

Wasn't aware of that but it wouldn't surprise me, options are running a bit thin
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on October 31, 2017, 05:25:21 AM
Just need half a team then!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on October 31, 2017, 05:25:48 AM
Hasn't Tienery just signed a 6 year contract. Sure I read that today

Yeah, today.

It's fine, we'll get him on a free in 6 years and he'll still only be 26.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Legend on October 31, 2017, 07:04:16 AM
Bad Dost, Charlie Austin? Anyone capable of scoring goals
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mac934 on October 31, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
Whoever it is, there current club will try and fleece us as they know we are in the shit and desperate for a striker.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bigl1cks on October 31, 2017, 02:28:37 PM
We'll get Jermain Defoe.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 31, 2017, 10:45:11 PM
Costa would do the job but he doesn't want to. Giroux might have been the man. Heskey at Palace is injured. Austin, Deeney, Celtic players........argh, where's me costume, I'll fuckin do it!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: therealdunc on October 31, 2017, 10:50:46 PM
Francis Jeffers would be a good option

Better to have him in the first team than messing up the u23s


Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Tofifee on October 31, 2017, 10:52:27 PM
Moussa Dembele
Leigh Griffiths
Danny Welbeck
Back in for Giroud and hope he has grown some balls to tell WAG to do one
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Tofifee on October 31, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
Erik Bakke
David Nugent
Joe Max Moore
Jo
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 31, 2017, 10:55:32 PM
Don't need one - got Baxter
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 01, 2017, 04:45:00 AM
I prefer someone with a future. So someone under 25.

Deeney? Seriously? He is over the hill. Might as well clone Wayne Rooney.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 01, 2017, 04:46:52 AM
I prefer someone with a future. So someone under 25.

Deeney? Seriously? He is over the hill. Might as well clone Wayne Rooney.
Where did the Deeney shout come from?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ramjam on November 01, 2017, 05:40:09 AM
Landon Donavan

Sorry, I’m off
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 01, 2017, 06:56:44 AM
LW/RW- Zaha, Redmond, Brooks, Gray - Pacey wide attackers. Largely young enough. Brooks I think will be special, Redmond I THINK can go up a level, Zaha I think is a top player, would cost north of £40m I think. Maybe see if Spurs still want rid of Sissokho.

Fullback back-up- Tavernier, Rangers RB. Cresswell - is he even playing for WHU? He's a baller, wtfs going on with him. LB.

CM - need a forward passer. A DLP/Regista whatever you want to call it... not sure who we could attract however. 25 years old please. Would like Paredes but he's in a CL side and has only just moved there. Bloody shame Newcastle tied up Merino

Number 9 - Milik, Gameiro, Bas Dost, Zahore...honestly dunno tbh lads, as I've said we've got a pretty low bar. Also could do with a low centre of gravity dribbler or marathon runner to get in behind who isn't lookman or Niasse. Always been a fan of Eddie Vargas but he only performs for his international side unfortunately, and totally flopped in the prem. budget Suarez imo but doesn't seem to have it in him.

CB - ball player with athletic ability required here. 24/25/26. Koulibaly basically. Can't think of any in England, maybe the lad at Middlesbrough or the lad at Brighton.

Some French Africans from Ligue Un that Walsh knows would come in handy in all of the above positions.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ramjam on November 01, 2017, 07:10:28 AM
LW/RW- Zaha, Redmond, Brooks, Gray - Pacey wide attackers. Largely young enough. Brooks I think will be special, Redmond I THINK can go up a level, Zaha I think is a top player, would cost north of £40m I think. Maybe see if Spurs still want rid of Sissokho.

Fullback back-up- Tavernier, Rangers RB. Cresswell - is he even playing for WHU? He's a baller, wtfs going on with him. LB.

CM - need a forward passer. A DLP/Regista whatever you want to call it... not sure who we could attract however. 25 years old please. Would like Paredes but he's in a CL side and has only just moved there. Bloody shame Newcastle tied up Merino

Number 9 - Milik, Gameiro, Bas Dost, Zahore...honestly dunno tbh lads, as I've said we've got a pretty low bar. Also could do with a low centre of gravity dribbler or marathon runner to get in behind who isn't lookman or Niasse. Always been a fan of Eddie Vargas but he only performs for his international side unfortunately, and totally flopped in the prem. budget Suarez imo but doesn't seem to have it in him.

CB - ball player with athletic ability required here. 24/25/26. Koulibaly basically. Can't think of any in England, maybe the lad at Middlesbrough or the lad at Brighton.

Some French Africans from Ligue Un that Walsh knows would come in handy in all of the above positions.

Brap, can you get that list off to Santa ASAP incase someone else asks first
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Normm on November 01, 2017, 05:36:55 PM
Kieren Dowell. All we have to do is beg Forest to tear up the season long contract.

How much will that cost in compensation??? Offer other players on loan to compensate for his return? ...It's possible.

I know ...it was a bad move sending him out for the whole  season in the first place!  :headbang:
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on November 01, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Go all out for Peter Crouch
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 01, 2017, 06:34:11 PM
Go all out for Peter Crouch
Ffs another ex red shite shout...you just want Abbey Clancy about the gaff .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bally on November 01, 2017, 06:34:49 PM
Go all out for Peter Crouch
Genuinely the most realistic shout we've had hahahhaha
To be fair I like crouch even though he played for the shite.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 01, 2017, 06:35:16 PM
Tammy Abraham.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 01, 2017, 07:00:37 PM
Bas Dost probably a decent shout, though we will probably have to break the bank for him. Couple his release clause with our horrid form and league placing = £££
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 01, 2017, 07:36:16 PM
LW/RW- Zaha, Redmond, Brooks, Gray - Pacey wide attackers. Largely young enough. Brooks I think will be special, Redmond I THINK can go up a level, Zaha I think is a top player, would cost north of £40m I think. Maybe see if Spurs still want rid of Sissokho.


I'd love zaha here, think he's really stepped up a level since just before he went to the AFCON and can play anywhere across the front 3. I like your striker choices too. A front 3 of Zaha Dost and Bolasie would be great on paper. Would take Gray too. Do we think we've missed a trick with zaha and Gray now though. Zaha I can see going spurs next year
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 01, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
Looks like united getting Tierney and Dembele according to the papers.

There is more talent in that Celtic side imo. McGregor is a decent player.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 01, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
Looks like united getting Tierney and Dembele according to the papers.

There is more talent in that Celtic side imo. McGregor is a decent player.
Thought Tierney had just signed a new deal for 5 yrs?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 01, 2017, 08:23:32 PM
LW/RW- Zaha, Redmond, Brooks, Gray - Pacey wide attackers. Largely young enough. Brooks I think will be special, Redmond I THINK can go up a level, Zaha I think is a top player, would cost north of £40m I think. Maybe see if Spurs still want rid of Sissokho.

Fullback back-up- Tavernier, Rangers RB. Cresswell - is he even playing for WHU? He's a baller, wtfs going on with him. LB.

CM - need a forward passer. A DLP/Regista whatever you want to call it... not sure who we could attract however. 25 years old please. Would like Paredes but he's in a CL side and has only just moved there. Bloody shame Newcastle tied up Merino

Number 9 - Milik, Gameiro, Bas Dost, Zahore...honestly dunno tbh lads, as I've said we've got a pretty low bar. Also could do with a low centre of gravity dribbler or marathon runner to get in behind who isn't lookman or Niasse. Always been a fan of Eddie Vargas but he only performs for his international side unfortunately, and totally flopped in the prem. budget Suarez imo but doesn't seem to have it in him.

CB - ball player with athletic ability required here. 24/25/26. Koulibaly basically. Can't think of any in England, maybe the lad at Middlesbrough or the lad at Brighton.

Some French Africans from Ligue Un that Walsh knows would come in handy in all of the above positions.
The painful thing is that even though we spent all that money, we need a complete overhaul. I think we have enough options and quality in midfield (once organised and back in form etc.) but the defence and forward positions need sorting and that can only be done with shit loads more money.

Will Moshiri have the stomach for it?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 01, 2017, 08:24:51 PM
Thought Tierney had just signed a new deal for 5 yrs?

Suppose it guarantees Celtic a big shwad of doh
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 01, 2017, 08:25:47 PM
Suppose it guarantees Celtic a big shwad of doh
There is that yeah
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 01, 2017, 08:26:25 PM
The painful thing is that even though we spent all that money, we need a complete overhaul. I think we have enough options and quality in midfield (once organised and back in form etc.) but the defence and forward positions need sorting and that can only be done with shit loads more money.

Will Moshiri have the stomach for it?

Will he have the planning for it more importantly.

We lashed A BIT of money about (wonder what the inflation rate was and when you divide our spends by that, minus outgoing player sales) and did get a few new players, but the planning was terrible.

Buying cheaper but buying smarter in the next window would serve us even better than buying expensive and stupid.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 04, 2017, 02:09:55 AM
If Koeman was still here, I'd be reasonably confident of a move for Andrea Petagna. There's an extent to which our recruitment, especially in attacking positions, was focused on players who personally terrorized Koeman in the past.

(I still think it's dodgy that we signed Vlasic right after playing Split twice, although I'm happy he's here.)

Plus, Petagna gets bonus points for having a pristine haircut like Pelle and Giroud.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 04, 2017, 02:11:30 AM
Argh. Double Post.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 04, 2017, 02:23:14 AM
Like the look of pategna but he’s young and unproven so I’d want pategna and another.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 04, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
Go all out for Peter Crouch

Frightening thing is we'd be twice the team we are now with crouch playing upfront for us. Twice very little is still very little though
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 04, 2017, 01:22:56 PM
Someone suggested Rondon earlier and I thought, he doesn’t score goals? The reality is we won’t get a top Striker but I remember what Marcus Bent did for us. He scored 7 goals and we finished 4th. I think our side is crying out for an athletic, strong, tall, quick striker who performs thankless tasks for the sake of the team, so our plethora of no10’s would reap the rewards and feed off his flick ons and also the space he should take up.

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 04, 2017, 02:30:15 PM
The only realistic hope we have in January is someone on the fringe of his club side or someone nearing the end of his contract and most likely it would be a loan . There is no way we will by 2 unless we shift Sandro as we already have Onyekeru next season if he gets his WP . We could always try playing Sandro as many times as we have played DCL so we can see if there is anything there .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 04, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
Someone suggested Rondon earlier and I thought, he doesn't score goals? The reality is we won't get a top Striker but I remember what Marcus Bent did for us. He scored 7 goals and we finished 4th. I think our side is crying out for an athletic, strong, tall, quick striker who performs thankless tasks for the sake of the team, so our plethora of no10's would reap the rewards and feed off his flick ons and also the space he should take up.
That was Koeman’s plan.

Rondon actually had a very good scoring record before he joined West Brom, albeit in poorer league. He’s a good player and would score more goals in a more attacking team. But even Rondon in this market would cost an absolute fortune. I said before the summer; there is absolutely no value in buying players from other Prem teams. To a degree it’s worth paying an inflated fee if you’re negating the risk by getting someone who knows the league and should settle quickly, however, that hasn’t been the case with the likes of Sigurdsson etc.

It’s not like we’re Real Madrid where we need a galatico to improve us. We’re actually short of bodies in certain positions; it should be easy to improve the squad with £8m-£15m players from the continent.

If only we had a competent scouting department...
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Toddacelli on November 04, 2017, 03:27:58 PM
No offence meant to anyone who has posted this on here but...

It really winds me the fuck up when people say "We've known for MONTHS that Lukaku was leaving"

Months? MONTHS?

We've known for fucking YEARS!

After the initial buzz when we thought we really might be going somewhere, it's been apparent for the last two seasons we had him that we were holding on to him by the skin of our teeth and that someone should have been brought in.

Remember when we were begging to get another year out of him and then delighted he gave us another year?  A YEAR.

Months? Fuck off. We've had way longer than that. We should have been planning for it while we still had him and were an attractive club for a striker to go to. Now we're gonna pay £100M for Chris Wood when Dyche comes in. Happy New Year.


(https://i.imgur.com/PFReGxW.gif)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 04, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Rondon is a great shout. Kevin Gameiro alongside him. Failing Rondon, Willian Jose.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Toddacelli on November 04, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Rondon is a great shout. Kevin Gameiro alongside him. Failing Rondon, Willian Jose.

Failing Rondon?  Is that his full name, like?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on November 04, 2017, 04:57:56 PM
I'm surprised we haven't thrown Ashley Williams up front yet.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 04, 2017, 05:01:43 PM
Just posted the goal of the month contest on Facebook for us to vote on. 1 senior goal, 1 under 23s, 1 ladies and 1 from I think the under 18s. Surely out of absolute shame you'd just cancel the fucking contest
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: mikey_blue on November 04, 2017, 05:24:59 PM
Babacar. He's behind in the pecking order at Fiorentina, and could probably get a good deal for him.

Also still think Sandro has something to offer, he just needs to play. DCL has been good at running and harassing defenders, but rarely looks like scoring and Niasse is a decent enough option off the bench but again, he's a bit shite. But both have been given the opportunity. I'd like to see Sandro get the same.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Big Nev on November 04, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
At this stage we should think big. That means a lot of money.
I'm not in the loop like some of you guys on here, but whoever we go for money is no object.
We'll lose a lot more if we get relegated than we are going to spend on a striker.

OK so we got £75m for Lukaku. We will need to spend nearly that for anyone we buy as other teams know we are desperate.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 04, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
At this stage we should think big. That means a lot of money.
I'm not in the loop like some of you guys on here, but whoever we go for money is no object.
We'll lose a lot more if we get relegated than we are going to spend on a striker.

OK so we got £75m for Lukaku. We will need to spend nearly that for anyone we buy as other teams know we are desperate.


What are you suggesting that we pay double for someone okay or that we try and sign a champions league standard player while facing relegation
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 04, 2017, 07:10:54 PM
Someone suggested Rondon earlier and I thought, he doesn’t score goals? The reality is we won’t get a top Striker but I remember what Marcus Bent did for us. He scored 7 goals and we finished 4th. I think our side is crying out for an athletic, strong, tall, quick striker who performs thankless tasks for the sake of the team, so our plethora of no10’s would reap the rewards and feed off his flick ons and also the space he should take up.



I’m a big Rondon guy.

Some of the best hold up in the prem imo, barely ever seen him get the ball taken off him back to goal.

Doesn’t score for WBA under Pulis, but that doesn’t matter. We’ve got Rooney, Klaassen and Sigurdsson who have made careers out of clever box movement and finishing chances set up by a main striker.

Think he’d be a success here and I would love him here.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: everton1952 on November 04, 2017, 07:29:57 PM
Repeat again, there is no time in January for fooling around with foreign based strikers of the sort "well he needs time to adjust to our league etc.." Stuff that, go for competent UK based strikers already in the PL or in the Championship.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: djws1788 on November 04, 2017, 07:40:10 PM
is Slimani worth a shout? can’t get a look in at Leicester
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 04, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
is Slimani worth a shout? can’t get a look in at Leicester

Compared to nothing, yes
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 04, 2017, 08:00:18 PM
I'm a big Rondon guy.

Some of the best hold up in the prem imo, barely ever seen him get the ball taken off him back to goal.

Doesn't score for WBA under Pulis, but that doesn't matter. We've got Rooney, Klaassen and Sigurdsson who have made careers out of clever box movement and finishing chances set up by a main striker.

Think he'd be a success here and I would love him here.
Could you bring yourself to pay £30m-40m for Rondon though?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 04, 2017, 08:05:55 PM
Could you bring yourself to pay £30m-40m for Rondon though?

Yup
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 04, 2017, 08:13:46 PM
I'd buy Slimani and Rondon, sell McCarthy to Leicester too. 
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 08:14:31 PM
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
Remember this
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 04, 2017, 08:18:24 PM
Nice seeing Arteta on the pitch for us there, too.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 08:25:18 PM
What happened with beckford ? He just seemed to vanish without a trace, i quite liked him
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 04, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
What happened with beckford ? He just seemed to vanish without a trace, i quite liked him
He was shite and ended up at bury
His level
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 08:28:12 PM
He was shite and ended up at bury
His level
Bit harsh that jim, jeez
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Big Nev on November 04, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
What are you suggesting that we pay double for someone okay or that we try and sign a champions league standard player while facing relegation

I'm saying that no matter who we go for, we will pay over the odds.
If they score 10 goals in the second half of the season and we stay up it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Major Clanger on November 04, 2017, 08:36:02 PM

How unlucky was it for him to score a goal like this in the last match of the season, when all goals of the season competitions had long closed?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 04, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
How unlucky was it for him to score a goal like this in the last match of the season, when all goals of the season competitions had long closed?

As unlucky as the bounce the ball took when the Chelsea player should have won it back was lucky.

He came out even on that one.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 04, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
As unlucky as the bounce the ball took when the Chelsea player should have won it back was lucky.

He came out even on that one.
He should have got cleaned out on the halfway line tbf
He had no control of the ball at all.
The finish is nice tho
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
As unlucky as the bounce the ball took when the Chelsea player should have won it back was lucky.

He came out even on that one.
Still a great goal though, one of my favourites
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blargins on November 04, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
His composure in the finish was sublime.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: nsno on November 04, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
I may get slated for saying this but I'd go for Andy Carroll or somebody similar. We need somebody who is going to be a bully in the final 3rd and have the ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play. we have the ability to score 30 goals a season from our midfield players but at the moment we have nobody who can complement them.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 09:15:01 PM
I may get slated for saying this but I'd go for Andy Carroll or somebody similar. We need somebody who is going to be a bully in the final 3rd and have the ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play. we have the ability to score 30 goals a season from our midfield players but at the moment we have nobody who can complement them.
Hes more injured than my shout wellbeck, but i see what you mean about a bully
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 04, 2017, 09:16:01 PM
I may get slated for saying this but I'd go for Andy Carroll or somebody similar. We need somebody who is going to be a bully in the final 3rd and have the ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play. we have the ability to score 30 goals a season from our midfield players but at the moment we have nobody who can complement them.
Someone similar to Carroll wouldn't be too bad, but Carroll is a terrible shout. We'd end up back where we are with no striker for most of the season. He makes McCarthys injury record and appearances per season look good
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 04, 2017, 09:17:02 PM
If Carroll could stay fit he would be a very handy player

He can't tho
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 04, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
I would find a striker who is 20-23 years old that has been scoring goals his whole life. Essentially, what we did when we got Lukaku.

I am not interested in 28-30 year old strikers that their own teams don't have an interest in keeping. Statistically, strikers peak out at 27, on average.

Thus, Moussa Dembele.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Heisenberg on November 04, 2017, 10:30:35 PM
We really should have someone, anyone, ready to come in on the first of the month. Even if it's someone who will eventually be the back up striker. We won't though
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 04, 2017, 10:35:34 PM
I would find a striker who is 20-23 years old that has been scoring goals his whole life. Essentially, what we did when we got Lukaku.

Haha, yeah sure piece of piss why hasn’t Walsh’s thought of that?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 04, 2017, 10:36:53 PM
We really should have someone, anyone, ready to come in on the first of the month. Even if it's someone who will eventually be the back up striker. We won't though

We'll all be here on deadline day saying surely it can't be a third time we've been promised the world and got nowt...... we'll fuck it up no doubt. We'll get a striker but it will be for a ridiculous price. They don't know what they are doing. Wait too long for decisions. Followed by pay whatever in negotiations. Followed by we just won't bother. It's like they can make sensible decisions
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 04, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
Caroll, Rondon both good shouts its what we need a hairy ass twat who can bulky and hold the ball up ...been saying it for months ...Dembele doesn't have the bully about him imho we don't need a flyweight speedster .
Das Bost any good with his back to goal ?.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: april on November 04, 2017, 10:48:58 PM
I look forward to a unexpected, initially underwhelming signing who ends up with double figures and saves our necks. Kevin Campbell mk2 will do me just fine for now.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 04, 2017, 11:11:11 PM
I look forward to a unexpected, initially underwhelming signing who ends up with double figures and saves our necks. Kevin Campbell mk2 will do me just fine for now.

Oh for another superkev
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: april on November 04, 2017, 11:15:32 PM
Brill that, cheers.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: piggypop on November 05, 2017, 12:02:45 AM
Caroll, Rondon both good shouts its what we need a hairy ass twat who can bulky and hold the ball up ...been saying it for months ...Dembele doesn't have the bully about him imho we don't need a flyweight speedster .
Das Bost any good with his back to goal ?.
One target man and one speed merchant for me. Surely we need at least 2 strikers bringing in. Otherwise one injury means we're back to the same situation we're in now.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Shogun on November 05, 2017, 12:04:32 AM
I always say him but Babacar would be a decent stopgap, got all the attributes.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 05, 2017, 12:21:07 AM
I'm going to be that guy again.

Rondon and Carroll are both 28. Signing either player would do nothing to rectify this massive problem we have where there are basically no peak age players in the squad. Neither has anywhere near the level of quality where a big short-term outlay would be worth it. I can see one of those two on loan, if their current club would allow it, but not on a permanent basis.

22-25 is the ideal range for a permanent signing (barring access to someone who is truly class, of course). Players that age have enough experience to contribute today but with room to go up a level.

The rot is only going to get worse if we keep spending on older players that don't really move the needle. Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson. What do we have to show for having brought that group to the club? Spending anything significant on Rondon or Carroll would be very much in the same vein.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GLewis on November 05, 2017, 12:36:03 AM
We don’t necessarily need the big lump style forward anyway.

If the new manager wants to pass it more then we might want a more mobile one.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 05, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
Bakambu?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheRam on November 05, 2017, 01:15:03 AM
Sanabria
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: formerKHL on November 05, 2017, 01:45:18 AM
Dzeko and ihenacho
Abraham and ihenacho

To get us out the shit

Benteke and ihenacho
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 05, 2017, 02:59:43 AM
We don’t necessarily need the big lump style forward anyway.

If the new manager wants to pass it more then we might want a more mobile one.

Sandro?

;)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 05, 2017, 02:59:55 AM
Dzeko and ihenacho
Abraham and ihenacho

To get us out the shit

Benteke and ihenacho
Fuck it get all of the above in ☺
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 05, 2017, 03:02:25 AM
We don't necessarily need the big lump style forward anyway.

If the new manager wants to pass it more then we might want a more mobile one.
Unless the new boss is gonna replace everyone north of the halfway line,  we are set up for a big lump to bring what players we have into the game .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GLewis on November 05, 2017, 03:05:03 AM
Sandro?

;)

Well at least worth working on it yes!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: arteta4spain on November 05, 2017, 03:20:34 AM
Bakambu?
Had a look at him albeit briefly in the summer. Think he'd do well here. I think he's played on the wing but can play at a striker. Don't know maybe someone can shed some light on him?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 05, 2017, 03:21:37 AM
Really wanna see the lad given games ....Sandro is deffo no worse than DCL in goals ...why not give the lad a run ?.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 05, 2017, 03:39:44 AM
Defrel?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 05, 2017, 03:47:38 AM
Really wanna see the lad given games ....Sandro is deffo no worse than DCL in goals ...why not give the lad a run ?.

Can't believe he's not even making the bench. I'm not having DCL is a bigger goal threat. Are we sure he's not injured.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 05, 2017, 07:10:03 AM
Yeah being dropped completely looks a bit worrying.

Maybe rhino doesn’t fancy him. Maybe he wore gloves in training or something.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: oztoffee on November 05, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
We must be in desperate shit if anyone is advocating Carroll. He's injured more often than not and at his best is a one goal in three striker....and he ain't at his best.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 05, 2017, 07:46:47 AM
We must be in desperate shit if anyone is advocating Carroll. He's injured more often than not and at his best is a one goal in three striker....and he ain't at his best.
Still better than what we've got even one in three 😅😅....laughing but it hurts 😣
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 05, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
.....and at his best is a one goal in three striker....and he ain't at his best.

Um...
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueMaquis on November 05, 2017, 09:33:53 AM
I would go for Eduardo Fierro from Bolivar FC. Walsh, get on it.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 05, 2017, 02:04:41 PM
That was Koeman’s plan.

Rondon actually had a very good scoring record before he joined West Brom, albeit in poorer league. He’s a good player and would score more goals in a more attacking team. But even Rondon in this market would cost an absolute fortune. I said before the summer; there is absolutely no value in buying players from other Prem teams. To a degree it’s worth paying an inflated fee if you’re negating the risk by getting someone who knows the league and should settle quickly, however, that hasn’t been the case with the likes of Sigurdsson etc.

It’s not like we’re Real Madrid where we need a galatico to improve us. We’re actually short of bodies in certain positions; it should be easy to improve the squad with £8m-£15m players from the continent.

If only we had a competent scouting department...

I would take Rondon. I remember he was hot property in Spain when Malaga had all that money for a season.
Title: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Confucius on November 06, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
Traore from Lyon
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2017, 02:04:52 PM
Yeah being dropped completely looks a bit worrying.

Maybe rhino doesn't fancy him. Maybe he wore gloves in training or something.
Red gloves!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 06, 2017, 02:09:04 PM
Traore from Lyon

Missed our chance there I think, probably the same for Tammy and Iheanacho as well.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2017, 02:13:13 PM
...not many feasible targets. We won’t be getting someone from a team that’s challenging at the top of their league or from a club that’s in a relegation scrap. Doesn’t leave much.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cods on November 06, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
D˛eko
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 06, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
A technically gifted version of Niasse for the first 75 minutes then the actual Niasse for the last 15.   
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cozzie on November 06, 2017, 03:15:41 PM
Yakubu.

He is still only 28 isn't he?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 06, 2017, 03:28:14 PM
D˛eko

In the summer I think this was an option, and a very good one, I think that horse has bolted given how well they're doing in the champions league and urm, how well were not doing in anything
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Thomas on November 07, 2017, 06:40:43 AM
Ideally, Dzeko.

Wildcard - (IF WE ARE BOTTOM/IN A DOGFIGHT) A Crouch/Tevez type of player. Short term.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cozzie on November 07, 2017, 01:39:25 PM
If he could stay fit I'd have Benteke from Palace.

Had 2 injury set backs this season already though so would be pointless tryna get him in jan.

Hes also Palaces only real chance to stay up so they will ask for a ridiculous price.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 07, 2017, 01:41:09 PM
Nailed on Crouch if Allardyce takes over, hoof ball
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 07, 2017, 02:20:20 PM
Carlton Cole.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 07, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Big Sam will bring Kevin Davies and Nolan stop worrying 😅
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: sirblue57 on November 07, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
I may get slated for saying this but I'd go for Andy Carroll or somebody similar. We need somebody who is going to be a bully in the final 3rd and have the ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play. we have the ability to score 30 goals a season from our midfield players but at the moment we have nobody who can complement them.

He is injured more.than fit..so no thanks.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on November 07, 2017, 04:32:18 PM
(https://www.independent.ie/incoming/article29548632.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/Anichebe.jpg)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 07, 2017, 04:43:04 PM
(https://www.independent.ie/incoming/article29548632.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/Anichebe.jpg)

To come and hold the ball up for a few weeks I'd fuckin take him, I'm ashamed to say.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheRam on November 07, 2017, 04:45:17 PM
To come and hold the ball up for a few weeks I'd fuckin take him, I'm ashamed to say.

He's playing in the Chinese second division.

Come on now
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 07, 2017, 05:39:09 PM
He's playing in the Chinese second division.

Come on now

He'd be cheaper than Andy Carroll though!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 07, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
It will be Crouch, you know it, I know it, the whole world will know it
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: dax78 on November 07, 2017, 05:41:45 PM
He'd be cheaper than Andy Carroll though!
Andy Carroll would actually be decent
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Django on November 07, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
Some horrendous shouts in here.

Anichebe, Crouch, Carroll!?!

You all had a lobotomy?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Escla on November 07, 2017, 05:45:40 PM
Some horrendous shouts in here.

Anichebe, Crouch, Carroll!?!

You all had a lobotomy?

Alright, what about Ballotelli  nod
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Django on November 07, 2017, 05:47:03 PM
Alright, what about Ballotelli  nod
I reckon we could tempt Grzegorz Rasiak out of retirement myself.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 07, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
Some horrendous shouts in here.

Anichebe, Crouch, Carroll!?!

You all had a lobotomy?

Didn't say I would go for or want Crouch, but big Sam deffo will! I can see it now, we get a free kick inside our opponents half, Pickford takes it and launches it towards Crouch

Repeat numerous times every game

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Django on November 07, 2017, 05:50:07 PM
Didn't say I would go for or want Crouch, but big Sam deffo will! I can see it now, we get a free kick inside our opponents half, Pickford takes it and launches it towards Crouch

Repeat numerous times every game



Just think we should all wait till we actually get Allardyce before heads fly off.

He's 3rd choice at best. Will only get him if we can't nail the other targets. But that's not to say that it won't happen.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 07, 2017, 05:53:35 PM
Just think we should all wait till we actually get Allardyce before heads fly off.

He's 3rd choice at best. Will only get him if we can't nail the other targets. But that's not to say that it won't happen.

B-b-but I've already got Crouch on the back on my kit...
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ross on November 07, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
If we did get somebody in on a short term deal, like the Allardyce rumours suggest, I can’t see them giving him the backing to bring a big signing in in January.

What would be the point in letting someone on such a short term contract spend a significant amount on a forward when he’s not going to be around to coach them and the next fella through the door might have very different ideas on the type of players he wants?

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 07, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
If we did get somebody in on a short term deal, like the Allardyce rumours suggest, I can’t see them giving him the backing to bring a big signing in in January.

What would be the point in letting someone on such a short term contract spend a significant amount on a forward when he’s not going to be around to coach them and the next fella through the door might have very different ideas on the type of players he wants?




Crouch would cost less than 3 million

<does the robot>
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Risky on November 07, 2017, 06:00:06 PM
Ciro Immobile. Would be unlikely and a gamble but a very good player who we could build our play around
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 07, 2017, 06:02:41 PM
Ciro Immobile. Would be unlikely and a gamble but a very good player who we could build our play around

Second best goals per minute in europe at the minute. Just ahead of a young man not a million miles from Finch Farm.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Risky on November 07, 2017, 06:04:32 PM
Second best goals per minute in europe at the minute. Just ahead of a young man not a million miles from Finch Farm.

Must admit I hadn't realised how many he'd scored so far this season.  Probably a stretch for us to get him
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cozzie on November 07, 2017, 06:07:46 PM
Immobile would be brilliant but just can't see it.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 07, 2017, 06:08:09 PM
Month of Sunday’s lids
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ross on November 07, 2017, 06:08:20 PM

Crouch would cost less than 3 million

<does the robot>

He’s still Stokes main goal threat I doubt he’d cost so little. 
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 07, 2017, 06:17:22 PM
Is Costa still available? lol

otherwise Dolberg, other than that.. no idea.. that baba car guy seems decent.. seen him play a few times..
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on November 08, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
Linked with James Maddison, bit of a number 10, I think

Championship players? Prefer Bobby Reid - number 10? Not likely, more 10 and a half
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 08, 2017, 03:51:45 PM
Slimani?

Apparently will be looking to leave Leicester in January - was he one of Walsh's?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 08, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Fuck it! Rickie Lamberts only 35 lets give him a ring  ::)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: dazfrancis on November 08, 2017, 03:55:18 PM
Linked with James Maddison, bit of a number 10, I think

Championship players? Prefer Bobby Reid - number 10? Not likely, more 10 and a half

Of the players in the championship I think we should go for that Dowell at Forest, he looks boss.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on November 08, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
He'll be back!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 08, 2017, 08:12:21 PM
Slimani?

Apparently will be looking to leave Leicester in January - was he one of Walsh's?

entered the thread to post this! but you beat me to it :D
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 08, 2017, 08:13:17 PM
Fuck it! Rickie Lamberts only 35 lets give him a ring  ::)

Seen him at the 5s a few times in netherton
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 08, 2017, 08:33:22 PM
Slimani?

Apparently will be looking to leave Leicester in January - was he one of Walsh's?
Not great but we will struggle to get much better at present I fear, not sure what he's like at holding the ball up but seen a few games and he's got pace and a good strike on him.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 08, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
Think we need at least 2, id be happy with Slimani and maybe Jovetic as hes being tipped to leave Monaco. My first choice would still be Gameiro
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 09, 2017, 06:58:12 AM
Fact is, we sold Lukaku WAYYYY too cheap. Right now he would go for £100 million+. Maybe £115M+.

We might have to spend more than the £76M we got for selling him, to get someone else not as prolific. Not to mention probably a lot older.  >:(
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jamokachi on November 09, 2017, 08:01:07 AM
Fact is, we sold Lukaku WAYYYY too cheap. Right now he would go for £100 million+. Maybe £115M+.

Behave
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 09, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Doesn’t really matter how much we sold lukaku for. I have my personal opinions but it is what it is.

What I wanna know is who has our super scouttm picked out for January? I assume he’s been able to find a shortlist of strikers, especially with no big mean Ronald telling him no.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 09, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
Linked with James Maddison, bit of a number 10, I think

Championship players? Prefer Bobby Reid - number 10? Not likely, more 10 and a half

Good, we need a No.10.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: School of Science on November 09, 2017, 02:44:49 PM
Slimani and Gameiro, just go for it Mosh lad.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 09, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
Gamiero and Dost.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: dangermouse on November 09, 2017, 03:05:36 PM
Calling it now. Andy Carroll & Benteke :(
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 09, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
Slimani is the only reasonable shout. He wants out and he’s not getting much game time so Leicester might let him go...unless they’re down in the shit with us.

Going to be Heart-breaking paying £40m for a 29 year old who is Leicester’s 4th choice striker. Modern football.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 10, 2017, 12:52:00 AM
It's not worth signing anybody older than 25 unless they're named Dzeko or Giroud (or someone else of that ilk who we're yet to be linked with). And even then... for a team with a mid-table ceiling (this season, at least), is it worth spending big for a class 30+ year old? I'm not convinced.

There are forwards who are useful today with plenty of good years left to give. If Walsh can't find any of them, add it to the list of reasons why he should fuck off.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 10, 2017, 10:15:50 AM
Volland. Muto. Gregoritsch 

I watch a lot of bundesliga.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 10, 2017, 12:28:26 PM
It's not worth signing anybody older than 25

What a ridiculous thing to say
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 10, 2017, 04:01:06 PM
Tricky one this. If the plan, despite how unrealistic it seems, is to wait for a Simeone type at the end of the season, then I don't really want an interim chap to splash 40 or 50 million on players in January that the coach/manager next season might not want. Yes I know the point of a DOF is to reduce this to some extent and the coach is to get on with it. But I wouldn't like the idea of spending big on Benteke only for the new coach to not want him 6 months later.

If that becomes the situation it probably limits our targets even more
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
Tricky one this. If the plan, despite how unrealistic it seems, is to wait for a Simeone type at the end of the season, then I don't really want an interim chap to splash 40 or 50 million on players in January that the coach/manager next season might not want. Yes I know the point of a DOF is to reduce this to some extent and the coach is to get on with it. But I wouldn't like the idea of spending big on Benteke only for the new coach to not want him 6 months later.

If that becomes the situation it probably limits our targets even more
Yep...so this season is essentially a write-off...with no guarantees we’ll improve next season. Fucking hell, I’m not going to live forever.

It really is the hope that kills you.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 10, 2017, 05:53:07 PM
Whoever we get, if they're not paraded in front of the cameras on the 2nd January, latest, someone needs shooting, even more than they did after the summer
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2017, 07:55:29 PM
I actually think sorting out the defence could be argued is the priority.

We are scoring SOME goals, but we’re fucking leaking at the back. Slow as fuck an all.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 10, 2017, 08:00:00 PM
I actually think sorting out the defence could be argued is the priority.

We are scoring SOME goals, but we’re fucking leaking at the back. Slow as fuck an all.
Weve scored 10 in 11 league games and 3 of those were in the last game! i agree that both need addressing but we have much better options at the back than up top, I also think a striker would ease the pressure on the defence as the opposition wouldnt be able to push up so high, knowing they have no striker to worry about
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2017, 08:01:19 PM
Weve scored 10 in 11 league games and 3 of those were in the last game! i agree that both need addressing but we have much better options at the back than up top, I also think a striker would ease the pressure on the defence as the opposition wouldnt be able to push up so high, knowing they have no striker to worry about

Not 100% sure. Burnley have scored like 9 and are 7th.

We have attackers who are young, we only have Holgate who is squad player at best who is young at the back.

Need 3-4 new peak defenders soon.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 10, 2017, 09:24:59 PM
Not 100% sure. Burnley have scored like 9 and are 7th.

We have attackers who are young, we only have Holgate who is squad player at best who is young at the back.

Need 3-4 new peak defenders soon.

Thats true about Burnley, although id still rather win 4-3 than 1-0. lets just go down the Newcastle route.....
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 10, 2017, 10:00:21 PM
I actually think sorting out the defence could be argued is the priority.

We are scoring SOME goals, but we’re fucking leaking at the back. Slow as fuck an all.

Fully agree. But we just need A striker. An actual striker with experience who can lead the line and be at least a decent goal threat. Just one.

Then I hope it's all defenders after that. (In January)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: dax78 on November 10, 2017, 10:01:10 PM
Are we going to buy a left back, centre half and striker in January?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Tofifee on November 10, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
i am not saying this is who i think we SHOULD go for, I am saying this is who i bet we WILL be in for
and its depressing
Defenders - Johnny Evans, Shane Duffy, James Collins or Ryan Shawcross
Strikers - Shane Long, Ismael Slimani, Leigh Griffiths, Solomon Rondon or Danny Ings
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 10, 2017, 10:16:27 PM
Are we going to buy a left back, centre half and striker in January?

Yes. 

Luke Shaw
Maurico Lemos
Mauro Icardi

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 10, 2017, 10:20:18 PM
i am not saying this is who i think we SHOULD go for, I am saying this is who i bet we WILL be in for
and its depressing
Defenders - Johnny Evans, Shane Duffy, James Collins or Ryan Shawcross
Strikers - Shane Long, Ismael Slimani, Leigh Griffiths, Solomon Rondon or Danny Ings
By all means take Rondon (great back to goal). Slamini a (a threat and good finisher) and Johny Evans ( much sought after by others because of how well he defends).
No problem for me and ten fold better than what we already have...williams (past it) Rooney(championship/China at best) and DCL who i like, but is having to do way too much for his age.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 10, 2017, 10:20:27 PM
i am not saying this is who i think we SHOULD go for, I am saying this is who i bet we WILL be in for
and its depressing
Defenders - Johnny Evans, Shane Duffy, James Collins or Ryan Shawcross
Strikers - Shane Long, Ismael Slimani, Leigh Griffiths, Solomon Rondon or Danny Ings

 :Holgate: :Joel: :Lennon: :Howard:
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 10, 2017, 10:20:55 PM
Yes. 

Luke Shaw
Maurico Lemos
Mauro Icardi

 :Deulofeu: :Gana: :Jags: :Niasse:
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 10, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
Luke Shaw, Ben Gibson, Kevin Gamiero.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: hill135 on November 10, 2017, 10:43:22 PM
The defence is old, slow, past it and lacking in ball playing ability.

The midfield is unbalanced, not good at keeping the ball and unable to resist pressure from even poor teams.

The attack is slow and lacking regular goal scorers

It’s all fucked and the whole thing is a priority!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: colin on November 10, 2017, 10:53:02 PM
Manuel Fernandes was in the Russian Team of the Season in FIFA last year.  Sign him up.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 10, 2017, 11:26:00 PM
The defence is old, slow, past it and lacking in ball playing ability.

The midfield is unbalanced, not good at keeping the ball and unable to resist pressure from even poor teams.

The attack is slow and lacking regular goal scorers

It’s all fucked and the whole thing is a priority!

In my opinion the mid field looks so bad because behind them they have old, slow, past it and lacking in ball playing ability players.

In front of them they have slow and lacking regular goal scorers.

Our mid field is squeezed so tightly right now because of this. Coaches know how to play us and it makes our mid field look worse off then it actually is.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 10, 2017, 11:41:42 PM
The defence is old, slow, past it and lacking in ball playing ability.

The midfield is unbalanced, not good at keeping the ball and unable to resist pressure from even poor teams.

The attack is slow and lacking regular goal scorers

It’s all fucked and the whole thing is a priority!

I think Coleman and Bolasie will change a lot of that. Pace and power.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2017, 11:48:18 PM
My list would be

Gibson, Carvalho, Berardi, Gameiro

£180m+ that
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 11, 2017, 01:57:46 AM
In all seriousness we struggled to sign a striker in the summer when we were riding the crest of a wave with genuine enthusiasm, belief we could finish in the top 4 and a ‘top class’ manager. What makes you think we can get one when we play awful football, look to be in a relegation scrap and have a caretaker manager no-one has heard of?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Juanito on November 11, 2017, 03:26:52 AM
In all seriousness we struggled to sign a striker in the summer when we were riding the crest of a wave with genuine enthusiasm, belief we could finish in the top 4 and a ‘top class’ manager. What makes you think we can get one when we play awful football, look to be in a relegation scrap and have a caretaker manager no-one has heard of?

We pay over the odds for transfer fees and pay over the odds for wages.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 11, 2017, 04:51:14 AM
I'm tellin ya, Gregoritsch. He's a beast.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: sam of the south on November 11, 2017, 05:37:31 AM
What we REALLY need is a top class coach and tactician who will get them mega fit, mega drilled, and mega motivated, at least one CB, a first choice LB, a new DM, a new Striker, and then we will be good to go.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 05:49:36 PM
i am not saying this is who i think we SHOULD go for, I am saying this is who i bet we WILL be in for
and its depressing
Defenders - Johnny Evans, Shane Duffy, James Collins or Ryan Shawcross
Strikers - Shane Long, Ismael Slimani, Leigh Griffiths, Solomon Rondon or Danny Ings

those are some grim signings.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 12, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
I remember when I posted that losing Lukaku would leave us in deep trouble, I got a lot of pushback. This is when everyone had dreams of top 4.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/38319285882_171d0f7e1b_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Glory on November 12, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
Congratulations
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 12, 2017, 01:06:56 PM
I remember when I posted that losing Lukaku would leave us in deep trouble, I got a lot of pushback. This is when everyone had dreams of top 4.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/38319285882_171d0f7e1b_z.jpg)

Wasn't the argument that we'd be okay if we spent the money wisely?
What were you saying that we'd buy a load of number 10s and no striker or just that we were doomed regardless
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cassius on November 12, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
I remember when I posted that losing Lukaku would leave us in deep trouble, I got a lot of pushback. This is when everyone had dreams of top 4.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/38319285882_171d0f7e1b_z.jpg)

Well done King, you win the I Told You So poster of the week. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Goaljira on November 12, 2017, 01:32:19 PM
I remember when I posted that losing Lukaku would leave us in deep trouble, I got a lot of pushback. This is when everyone had dreams of top 4.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/38319285882_171d0f7e1b_z.jpg)

Because no one believed that those in charge would be stupid enough not to replace him. At all.  Whilst also leaving other massive holes in the squad.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 12, 2017, 02:48:23 PM
I remember when I posted that losing Lukaku would leave us in deep trouble, I got a lot of pushback. This is when everyone had dreams of top 4.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/38319285882_171d0f7e1b_z.jpg)

Is that all your successful posts or can you do a montage?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 12, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Haha. What a fucking knob lolol
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 12, 2017, 05:26:26 PM
EDIT: never mind
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Escla on November 12, 2017, 05:36:09 PM
Interested in Jack Harrison apparently.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 12, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
Get shouted at for making a prediction, for it happening and blowing your own trumpet. There isn't any way we should have gone from Lukaku to relegation candidates, but that's what happened.

While I never warmed to Koeman, it was a bold prediction and I wouldn't have gone that far. We wouldn't have been as bad if we had Lukaku, you only have to look at how difficult it is to find players on that level who will come.

You don't have to attack everything you don't like reading, it's not intended to offend.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Goaljira on November 12, 2017, 06:31:44 PM
Get shouted at for making a prediction, for it happening and blowing your own trumpet. There isn't any way we should have gone from Lukaku to relegation candidates, but that's what happened.

While I never warmed to Koeman, it was a bold prediction and I wouldn't have gone that far. We wouldn't have been as bad if we had Lukaku, you only have to look at how difficult it is to find players on that level who will come.

You don't have to attack everything you don't like reading, it's not intended to offend.

But it wasnt a prediction based on what has actually happened.  If he'd said 'In the summer we'll lose all three of our senior strikers from this season, and replace them with a returning Oumar Niasse we'll be at the bottom of the table' then theres not a single person who would have disagreed with him.  But he didnt say that, because no one would think it was possible to fuck up our striker recruitment as badly as we did. 

And saying 'if we'd kept Lukaku we'd be further up the table' isnt an great insightful observation either.  If we'd kept Kone or Valencia we'd have been in a better position too, as having something is better than nothing.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 12, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
But it wasnt a prediction based on what has actually happened.  If he'd said 'In the summer we'll lose all three of our senior strikers from this season, and replace them with a returning Oumar Niasse we'll be at the bottom of the table' then theres not a single person who would have disagreed with him.  But he didnt say that, because no one would think it was possible to fuck up our striker recruitment as badly as we did. 

And saying 'if we'd kept Lukaku we'd be further up the table' isnt an great insightful observation either.  If we'd kept Kone or Valencia we'd have been in a better position too, as having something is better than nothing.

Like all predictions, it was before the event happened, predictions in hindsight are easy. Lukaku gone, check, relegation candidates, check.

Plenty of managers would have done better with squad than Koeman. Recruitment could have been better, lack of creativity plays a big part too. But if we still had Lukaku, they wouldn't be major issues and we'd be getting goals.

Striker recruitment wasn't great, but we got Sandro, Rooney and DCL is gaining more experience. Are you saying its not Lukaku, but 33 year old Kone and Valencia we miss?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 13, 2017, 08:38:57 AM
Is that all your successful posts or can you do a montage?

Indeed I can do a montage. How about the thread where I showed (with data) that we really are not a big spending club under Moshiri, because everyone is too focused on our spending and not our sales. And that after you consider both, our spending is just mid-table-plus level at best since his arrival. A net spend of just £69M pounds since his arrival, which is nothing impressive at all. Got a lot of pushback on that too, Even though it was true then and is true now.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 13, 2017, 09:34:26 AM
You're on your own on that one buddy, have you heard of FFP?

Just £70m net.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Shogun on November 13, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
There's so much of the season to go that it's ridiculous to say we're a relegation contender when we're only four points from 8th place.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. We've been diabolical all season and we're currently 15th. Nobody thought Chelsea would get relegated in 2015-16 when they were 16th after 12 games and we won't either. We've got rid of our manager, no Europe to 'distract' and some key players to come back from injury whilst things already look on the up after beating Watford.

The hysterical mindset is annoying.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 13, 2017, 11:15:32 AM
There's so much of the season to go that it's ridiculous to say we're a relegation contender when we're only four points from 8th place.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. We've been diabolical all season and we're currently 15th. Nobody thought Chelsea would get relegated in 2015-16 when they were 16th after 12 games and we won't either. We've got rid of our manager, no Europe to 'distract' and some key players to come back from injury whilst things already look on the up after beating Watford.

The hysterical mindset is annoying.

Playing devils advocate. I think the annoying part can go both ways. It's annoying hearing people say we won't be relegated with such confidence just because we're Everton and we have history(I know you're not saying that). Right now there's not more than 2 teams that look worse than us, we've had a lucky win against fukkin Watford, and we have to go another 6+ weeks without a real striker and shite defence.

Again, I'm playin devils advocate, and I think we'll manage to work our way back up the table to a good spot, But it's quite annoying reading how confident people are when we're proper shit.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 13, 2017, 01:40:16 PM
Playing devils advocate. I think the annoying part can go both ways. It's annoying hearing people say we won't be relegated with such confidence just because we're Everton and we have history(I know you're not saying that). Right now there's not more than 2 teams that look worse than us, we've had a lucky win against fukkin Watford, and we have to go another 6+ weeks without a real striker and shite defence.

Again, I'm playin devils advocate, and I think we'll manage to work our way back up the table to a good spot, But it's quite annoying reading how confident people are when we're proper shit.
We’ve been shite every single game and our squad is ordinary and unbalanced; that’s why I’m worried.

I don’t think we’re going to get relegated but there’s zero evidence we can put a run together and get into the top half.

We’ll have a better after the Palace game - which I think we’ll lose.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 13, 2017, 02:16:50 PM
There's so much of the season to go that it's ridiculous to say we're a relegation contender when we're only four points from 8th place.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. We've been diabolical all season and we're currently 15th. Nobody thought Chelsea would get relegated in 2015-16 when they were 16th after 12 games and we won't either. We've got rid of our manager, no Europe to 'distract' and some key players to come back from injury whilst things already look on the up after beating Watford.

The hysterical mindset is annoying.

Yeah but we don’t look like we’ve been unlucky, we look absolute shite and we’ve been lucky to get the wins we’ve had - a late pen, a mad Oumar-powered comeback and the oppo missing a pen etc.

If we looked like we were playing well but just hitting the post or whatever then yeah sound, but we absolutely deserve to be bottom 3 and the next 3 games are absolutely vital to our survival - Palace, Huddersfield and West Ham.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bluenuck on November 13, 2017, 02:33:24 PM
Yeah but we don’t look like we’ve been unlucky, we look absolute shite and we’ve been lucky to get the wins we’ve had - a late pen, a mad Oumar-powered comeback and the oppo missing a pen etc.

If we looked like we were playing well but just hitting the post or whatever then yeah sound, but we absolutely deserve to be bottom 3 and the next 3 games are absolutely vital to our survival - Palace, Huddersfield and West Ham.

We're proper shit and completely unbalanced. People need to realize it quickly.

It's hard to listen to people laugh off relegation like its nothing to worry about. I'm not in full freak out mode, but relegation can happen for this team if we're not careful.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on November 13, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
4 points off 8th is also a weird metric. 7th is the target so the correct metric is 8 points off of 7th. Chasing down 8 points is not easy. You have to win a lot AND rely on 7 other teams all dropping points all the time. That's statistically very difficult, especially when you're garbage and only just managed to fluke yourself out of 19th place.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 13, 2017, 04:32:27 PM
The league outside of the Top 6 is full of shite and ordinary teams. We were on our own in 7th last year and we've dipped back into that chasing pack. It's not even a chasing pack as none of them show ambitions to chase the top 6. Yes we've been shocking but any other team in that 13 could go on an equally worse run. None have the potential to go on a big winning run so I can imagine if we can get our act together a top 10,  or 8 or whatever finish is still a realistic aim.

The quality outside that top 6 means we still have a chance of top 7 (providing the right people come in in January)
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jamokachi on November 13, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
This team finished comfortably 7th last season, and we've lost 1 player. I have complete faith that a new manager can get us drilled, instil some confidence and get us playing again, The squad has been improved. Stop losing your heads.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Rhys on November 13, 2017, 10:03:34 PM
4 points off 8th is also a weird metric. 7th is the target so the correct metric is 8 points off of 7th. Chasing down 8 points is not easy. You have to win a lot AND rely on 7 other teams all dropping points all the time. That's statistically very difficult, especially when you're garbage and only just managed to fluke yourself out of 19th place.

It is difficult but becomes a lot easier when you look at the quality of teams around those places. If we were talking about gaining 8 points on the top 6 teams when it's likely they all get 75+ points even before looking at our troubles it would be very difficult as we found last year when we were in form and scoring goals.

However when it's burnley and Brighton 8 points above us it becomes much more feasible especially when you have 27 games to catch that amount of points not as though we are down to the last 10 games. Burnley and Brighton aren't likely to get to 50 points in my opinion, I think it's more than likely when we get players back in form and some confidence behind them with additions in January we are comfortably above both of them by the end of the season as they have been performing miracles and we are doing as badly as we have in a long time.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: D15TIN on November 13, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
There's so much of the season to go that it's ridiculous to say we're a relegation contender when we're only four points from 8th place.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. We've been diabolical all season and we're currently 15th. Nobody thought Chelsea would get relegated in 2015-16 when they were 16th after 12 games and we won't either. We've got rid of our manager, no Europe to 'distract' and some key players to come back from injury whilst things already look on the up after beating Watford.

The hysterical mindset is annoying.
Totally get what youre saying, but I would say other than palace weve played the worst football this season, weve not had 1 good performance and have to manage without a striker, and a lack of options at the back until Jan, I too think we'll be fine and finish in a respectable position, but weve been shite and have a number of problems
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 13, 2017, 10:51:26 PM
4 points off 8th is also a weird metric. 7th is the target so the correct metric is 8 points off of 7th. Chasing down 8 points is not easy. You have to win a lot AND rely on 7 other teams all dropping points all the time. That's statistically very difficult, especially when you're garbage and only just managed to fluke yourself out of 19th place.

It's not intended as a metric or a target. It's an illustration of how tight the league is and how easy it would be to climb it, with any semblance of decent form.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 13, 2017, 10:53:15 PM
Totally get what youre saying, but I would say other than palace weve played the worst football this season, weve not had 1 good performance and have to manage without a striker, and a lack of options at the back until Jan, I too think we'll be fine and finish in a respectable position, but weve been shite and have a number of problems

All true, and we're STILL only 4 points off 8th.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: D15TIN on November 13, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
All true, and we're STILL only 4 points off 8th.
Think as someone has said, the quality outside of the top 6/7 is very average
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: D15TIN on November 13, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
I see that Belfodil, the one Walsh wanted has scored once in 17 this season.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 14, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
A lot of pressure on this knight in shining armour striker we’re bringing in...
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 14, 2017, 12:09:57 AM
I’ll bet my right bollock that within 48hrs of the January transfer deadline, we still don’t have our striker
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Confucius on November 14, 2017, 12:12:22 AM
Hardly logged in in the past 10 days, wish I hadn't now either
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: D15TIN on November 14, 2017, 12:15:06 AM
Gonna be one of the Leicester strikers who arnt featuring much. Slimani or Musa.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: cantoffee on November 14, 2017, 12:47:47 AM
Should have just gone for Dembele and Tierney for 50 million. Would at least fix two problems and both would be at a decent level relatively quickly.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 14, 2017, 01:08:56 AM
Should have just gone for Dembele and Tierney for 50 million. Would at least fix two problems and both would be at a decent level relatively quickly.

It's a while since a striker came down from Scotland and made an impact in the English League.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Morta75 on November 14, 2017, 01:17:53 AM
Bring in Dembele from Celtic.  Pace, strong. Give them Mirallas as part of the deal.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: arteta4spain on November 14, 2017, 02:59:12 AM
This team finished comfortably 7th last season, and we've lost 1 player. I have complete faith that a new manager can get us drilled, instil some confidence and get us playing again, The squad has been improved. Stop losing your heads.
I think we don't realise how good Barry has been for us tho. But if Schneiderlin can get his shit together then we should be ok. Yes we need striker but hopefully we can steady the ship until Jan. Get a striker in to play with Oumar and we'll be ok. I'd be playing the majority of last seasons players so the more familiar they are with each other the better we'll be.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 14, 2017, 03:49:02 AM
Forgot we had Kone last season.

He'd be straight in the first team for us right now.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 14, 2017, 03:51:33 AM
Forgot we had Kone last season.

He'd be straight in the first team for us right now.

Let's not go overboard.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on November 14, 2017, 03:59:57 AM
Forgot we had Kone last season.

He'd be straight in the first team for us right now.

Hahahahaha!  I did laugh.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Shogun on November 14, 2017, 04:25:00 AM
Yeah the striker being kept out the side by Leigh Griffiths will solve our problems.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on November 14, 2017, 04:50:53 AM
Yeah the striker being kept out the side by Leigh Griffiths will solve our problems.

Think he was injured for the first couple of months of the season? Scored 5 in his last 5 and bagged a hat trick for France U21's this evening.

He can definitely score goals but I'm surprised if he was that good there wasn't more interest in him in the summer but like most things it's difficult to gauge a player in the SPFL. At the top level, he didn't do anything standout against Bayern but then it was always going to be hard against them.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 14, 2017, 05:03:17 AM
Think he was injured for the first couple of months of the season? Scored 5 in his last 5 and bagged a hat trick for France U21's this evening.

He can definitely score goals but I'm surprised if he was that good there wasn't more interest in him in the summer but like most things it's difficult to gauge a player in the SPFL. At the top level, he didn't do anything standout against Bayern but then it was always going to be hard against them.
There was talk Celtic wanted £40m for him.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 14, 2017, 05:07:43 AM
There was talk Celtic wanted £40m for him.
Cheap that ....better than Deeney Benteke and will only get better .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on November 14, 2017, 05:17:19 AM
There was talk Celtic wanted £40m for him.

Yeah, I don't think even in today's inflated market they were going to get anything like that for a 20/21 year old playing in Scotland.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on November 14, 2017, 05:47:34 AM
A temporay manager and no one is going to buy in to the 'everton dream' in january. If we don't sort this management situation for the long term we're screwed come the window.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 14, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Yeah, I don't think even in today's inflated market they were going to get anything like that for a 20/21 year old playing in Scotland.

Would be BANG up for a triple swoop on Dembele/Tierney/McGregor
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ramjam on November 14, 2017, 03:22:49 PM
Would be BANG up for a triple swoop on Dembele/Tierney/McGregor

Fuck it through Brendan in as well
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on November 14, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
big Marco might be able to get Richarlison , looks decent and only 20
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheRam on November 14, 2017, 06:35:07 PM
big Marco might be able to get Richarlison , looks decent and only 20

I'd spend the lot on him.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 14, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
big Marco might be able to get Richarlison , looks decent and only 20
Spurs linked today
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Shogun on November 14, 2017, 06:41:13 PM
Think he was injured for the first couple of months of the season? Scored 5 in his last 5 and bagged a hat trick for France U21's this evening.

He can definitely score goals but I'm surprised if he was that good there wasn't more interest in him in the summer but like most things it's difficult to gauge a player in the SPFL. At the top level, he didn't do anything standout against Bayern but then it was always going to be hard against them.

I resent you bring facts into this.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 14, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
Spurs linked today
He’d cost serious fucking beans.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 14, 2017, 10:52:21 PM
Dembele scored 15 goals in his last 45 games for Fulham in the Championship at the age of 20. By no means disgraceful but we'd have to keep the price reasonably sensible if we were to go for him. He is still untried at anything like Premier League level.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Toddacelli on November 15, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
I'm surprised we haven't thrown Ashley Williams in a skip yet.

Fixed
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ajax_andy on November 15, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
It'll be Slimani on loan with a view to buy, Jan is never a fruitful time to buy players and especially goal scorers, and we won't want to spend £40m plus in someone else's 3rd choice striker.  So a loan with a set price to buy will be most likely and Slimani is probably our best bet in that available bracket
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 16, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
We won't need a new striker in January, not unless they are shithot
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 16, 2017, 01:47:41 PM
Werner
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 16, 2017, 01:52:49 PM
We won't need a new striker in January, not unless they are shithot

Explain
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 16, 2017, 02:55:40 PM
Explain

I still think DCL is going to get goals and hopefully Sandro can start getting some game time and goals as well. Then we have Niasse and Rooney, who have been scoring.

Unless we are getting a really talented player or goalscorer who goes straight into first team and scores goals, we don't really need more bodies or options.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: bigmanbob on November 16, 2017, 03:25:46 PM
I can see Sandro going back to Spain if he doesn't get any more minutes
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 16, 2017, 03:34:02 PM
I can see Sandro going back to Spain if he doesn't get any more minutes
Who could blame him ....i rekon he will smash it with another team and leave us wondering what could've been .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: arteta4spain on November 16, 2017, 03:47:27 PM
Think this should be changed to which manager to go for in Jan at this rate.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Macca77 on November 16, 2017, 03:48:31 PM
Paulo Wanchope
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 16, 2017, 05:10:46 PM
I still think DCL is going to get goals and hopefully Sandro can start getting some game time and goals as well. Then we have Niasse and Rooney, who have been scoring.

Unless we are getting a really talented player or goalscorer who goes straight into first team and scores goals, we don't really need more bodies or options.

Drastically disagree.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 16, 2017, 05:18:45 PM
Rooney's finishing is so much better than DCL, maybe we should chuck Davey further up field?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1574216/Top-bin-Rooney-hits-screamer-Sure-Pressure-skill-test.html
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 16, 2017, 05:26:31 PM
maybe we should chuck Davy further up

Because scored a goal in a training drill?

And as for Rooney (United and England all time top goalscorer) being a better finisher than a lad who's barely out of his teens... What do you expect really?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 16, 2017, 05:37:05 PM
I can see Sandro going back to Spain if he doesn't get any more minutes

Sending him back on loan until the summer wouldn't be such a bad thing.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 16, 2017, 05:49:54 PM
Sending him back on loan until the summer wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Can't see how it'd benefit us other than raising his asking price.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blargins on November 16, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
Rooney's finishing is so much better than DCL, maybe we should chuck Davey further up field?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1574216/Top-bin-Rooney-hits-screamer-Sure-Pressure-skill-test.html


Saw that this morning. Doesn't bode well for DCL missing simple training ground sitters, but I don't think he's ever been a finisher. Has very poor stats for us.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 16, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
Can't see how it'd benefit us other than raising his asking price.

If he's still not getting game come January can't see how it would benefit us having him sit on his arse till the summer either.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Waltzer on November 16, 2017, 05:57:16 PM
Because scored a goal in a training drill?

And as for Rooney (United and England all time top goalscorer) being a better finisher than a lad who's barely out of his teens... What do you expect really?

Get out of the wrong side of bed today? It wasnt meant to be serious about Davey, it was a light hearted comment based on a fun video created, relax!! And yes you would expect Rooney to be better, but even in training you'd like to think DCL would look a little better than he did!!!!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 16, 2017, 05:58:46 PM
If he's still not getting game come January can't see how it would benefit us having him sit on his arse till the summer either.

Sending him back to the league that obviously in no way prepared him for life in the Premier League is beyond pointless unless we're moving him on.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jamokachi on November 16, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
Doesn't bode well for DCL missing simple training ground sitters

Are you messing?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blargins on November 16, 2017, 06:11:37 PM
Are you messing?

Yeah, I am. 6 goals in 32 games is sensational :)

Seriously though, he's not that type of striker anyway.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 16, 2017, 06:13:55 PM
Sending him back to the league that obviously in no way prepared him for life in the Premier League is beyond pointless unless we're moving him on.

Well no-one in the Premier League is going to want him based on his performances to date and shipping him off on loan to another country makes no sense to have a young lad playing in three different leagues in 12 months.

He needs to play football and at the amount we paid for him we can afford to send him out to get some game time and see what happens. Makes no sense in offloading him for not much more than we paid for him if there is a player in there that just needs to find his feet. Maybe a latin manager in Silva might be what he needs to make him feel wanted here and help him adjust so all this talk of him leaving may be immaterial.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ross on November 16, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
I wonder if Sandro just needs someone to put an arm around his shoulder and whisper in his ear......










“put some fucking studs in lad”
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 16, 2017, 06:24:11 PM
I wonder if Sandro just needs someone to put an arm around his shoulder and whisper in his ear......










“put some fucking studs in lad”

cant do that, ill upset his boot sponsors.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 16, 2017, 06:26:00 PM
Re: Sandro, hes got some way to go yet until hes as bad as Aspas.....
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 16, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Re: Sandro, hes got some way to go yet until hes as bad as Aspas.....

We could let him take a corner to see once and for all.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 16, 2017, 06:32:41 PM
We could let him take a corner to see once and for all.

We spent £45m on one of them, we can't let someone else take one now!!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: boothill on November 16, 2017, 06:35:20 PM
Re: Sandro, hes got some way to go yet until hes as bad as Aspas.....
Agrrhhhhh you've just called sandro a spas, im telling miss
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ross on November 16, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
cant do that, ill upset his boot sponsors.

Uggs isn’t?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 16, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
Uggs isn’t?

Ugg "Stevie G Specials"
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 16, 2017, 06:51:24 PM
Re: Sandro, hes got some way to go yet until hes as bad as Aspas.....

Aspas actually managed to get a few games and score a goal
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Major Clanger on November 16, 2017, 06:54:23 PM
Rooney's finishing is so much better than DCL, maybe we should chuck Davey further up field?

Only if we're playing against Dummy FC. Defenders capable of movement will eat him from breakfast.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Lxxx on November 16, 2017, 06:56:02 PM
Only if we're playing against Dummy FC. Defenders capable of movement will eat him from breakfast.

After first pushing him off the ball like a little schoolkid. He should watch a few Naismith/Osman videos on how to deal with the physicality in this league for a small bloke.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 16, 2017, 10:49:02 PM
Are people still judging Sandro on the handful of starts then being pushed out by Unsie because unlike DCL he doesn't have the Rhinos picture on his mantel piece 😅😅
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on November 17, 2017, 12:12:20 AM
Are people still judging Sandro on the handful of starts then being pushed out by Unsie because unlike DCL he doesn't have the Rhinos picture on his mantel piece

I think it's fair to say the answer is YES
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: gizzblue on November 17, 2017, 12:13:45 AM
I think it's fair to say the answer is YES
Typical .
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 17, 2017, 01:48:55 AM
Rooney's finishing is so much better than DCL, maybe we should chuck Davey further up field?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1574216/Top-bin-Rooney-hits-screamer-Sure-Pressure-skill-test.html


The best game he's had here for me was pretty much that 1st pre-season game he was involved with. The second was similar too. What stood out was he was running into the box trying to get on the end of things. That tendency seemed to evaporate shortly after arriving though. Perhaps it was because Rooney was given that role, and Koeman asked him to hang back more...who knows. His stats would suggest he has a decent finish on him though.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 17, 2017, 01:51:36 AM
Drastically disagree.

Yep. I genuinely can't believe people would be ok with not bringing in a striker. It's admittedly going to be a hard task now, but has one game vs Watford really covered up the failings throughout the season to date?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 17, 2017, 02:09:36 AM
Apparently, Klaassen has played as a false nine before.

It would be nice to see him again, in some central role. I'm seriously disappointed at how Unsworth has frozen out so many of our summer signings.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 17, 2017, 02:19:56 AM
Apparently, Klaassen has played as a false nine before.

It would be nice to see him again, in some central role. I'm seriously disappointed at how Unsworth has frozen out so many of our summer signings.

I think to some degree up until this point I can give him some slack. When you're in a crisis of sorts, or just finding your feet it's understandable to go to known quantities. He should be talking to those players he has frozen out though during that time, letting them know what the deal is.

However, I feel that immediate finding his feet period has passed with the international break giving him more chance to familiarize himself with the new players. If they continue to all be left out en masse I'd be very disappointed. I think as Niasse has shown, all these players should be able to contribute something if coached/utilized properly in a balanced team.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 17, 2017, 02:46:42 AM
Apparently, Klaassen has played as a false nine before.

It would be nice to see him again, in some central role. I'm seriously disappointed at how Unsworth has frozen out so many of our summer signings.

Me too. We've been so poor in almost every position and yet them who are still a bit of an unknown are completely out while we continue with many who we pretty much know are actually good enough
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on November 17, 2017, 02:52:15 AM
its all gone tits up for Rooney since the bird with the false tits made a tool of him
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 03:04:57 AM
Anyone seen the sure video challenge with dcl, rooney and klaasen for goalscoring

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: chang on November 17, 2017, 03:38:12 AM
Anyone seen the sure video challenge with dcl, rooney and klaasen for goalscoring



This ?

https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/11/16/video-everton-trio-show-shooting-skills-latest-sure-pressure-series-challenge
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Polledreng on November 17, 2017, 03:40:05 AM
Anyone seen the sure video challenge with dcl, rooney and klaasen for goalscoring


yes and the winner one of the many guys Unsworth doesnt fancy..
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Confucius on November 17, 2017, 03:43:24 AM
Can we sign the guy who went before Rooney?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 03:45:56 AM
yes and the winner one of the many guys Unsworth doesnt fancy..
On tef there's a lad saying its not unsworth picking the sides
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 17, 2017, 03:51:20 AM
On tef there's a lad saying its not unsworth picking the sides

Read that. That poster thinks Royle is picking the teams, right?

Hopefully not true. Disturbing if it is.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: blueToffee on November 17, 2017, 03:58:24 AM
On tef there's a lad saying its not unsworth picking the sides

It ain’t that hard to pick a side.

Perhaps the international break was too long after all. People have too much time on their hands to dwell on these things.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: TheTone on November 17, 2017, 04:02:52 AM
It ain’t that hard to pick a side.

no it's not, but when most of the players are dog turd what can anyone do?

Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Read that. That poster thinks Royle is picking the teams, right?

Hopefully not true. Disturbing if it is.
Yeah that's what he is saying
He's been Bob on with teams in the past as has django on here
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: sam of the south on November 17, 2017, 04:13:31 AM
Yeah that's what he is saying
He's been Bob on with teams in the past as has django on here

That would be really odd if Joe is picking the sides.

That would suggest that Bill doesn't trust Unsworth.

Surely Joe hardly has his finger on the pulse these days.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 04:15:58 AM
That would be really odd if Joe is picking the sides.

That would suggest that Bill doesn't trust Unsworth.

Surely Joe hardly has his finger on the pulse these days.
Dunno how true it is pal. He's got teams right and a few other things right tho in the past

Id be surprised, shocked and disappointed if it is true tho
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: sam of the south on November 17, 2017, 04:19:13 AM
Dunno how true it is pal. He's got teams right and a few other things right tho in the past

Id be surprised, shocked and disappointed if it is true tho

Oh sure, I don't doubt his credentials, Jimmy, I just, like you, really hope it ain't true
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Polledreng on November 17, 2017, 04:20:37 AM
On tef there's a lad saying its not unsworth picking the sides
Weird
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Gash on November 17, 2017, 04:26:16 AM
Apparently, Klaassen has played as a false nine before.

It would be nice to see him again, in some central role. I'm seriously disappointed at how Unsworth has frozen out so many of our summer signings.

It was all nice and cosy when Unsworth took over to hear him say all the right things but it was also slightly concerning that he was talking about "the Everton way" and "what the fans want" or words to that effect. I think he's too close to the club if that makes sense and he's trying too hard to appeal to the fans. It's all very nice and romantic but the reality of modern football is you play each game as it comes and if that means playing boring football to get a result then that's what you need to do. I think he's fallen into the trap of telling the fans what they want to hear rather than doing what needs done.

Looking at his matchday squads it looks very much like he's playing safe and going with players he knows and a lot of the newer players are being frozen out. For a man who said he didn't know what was going on with the first team squad under Koeman as he was with the U23's he seems to have made a decision very quickly rather than wiping the slate clean and giving everyone a fair crack.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: kramer0 on November 17, 2017, 04:33:10 AM
It was all nice and cosy when Unsworth took over to hear him say all the right things but it was also slightly concerning that he was talking about "the Everton way" and "what the fans want" or words to that effect. I think he's too close to the club if that makes sense and he's trying too hard to appeal to the fans. It's all very nice and romantic but the reality of modern football is you play each game as it comes and if that means playing boring football to get a result then that's what you need to do. I think he's fallen into the trap of telling the fans what they want to hear rather than doing what needs done.

Looking at his matchday squads it looks very much like he's playing safe and going with players he knows and a lot of the newer players are being frozen out. For a man who said he didn't know what was going on with the first team squad under Koeman as he was with the U23's he seems to have made a decision very quickly rather than wiping the slate clean and giving everyone a fair crack.

Agreed. I'm especially disappointed because he always seemed so accommodating with the U23s. Look at what he did for Niasse when most of us were down on him. That made a huge difference to the player, as he indicated recently. The new players who haven't settled need that same treatment now. The evidence we have (matchday squads) suggests they aren't getting it.

Hopefully, things change in the coming weeks. I've been as critical of our business as anyone but we can't be writing off the new signings so soon.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: ally2 on November 17, 2017, 04:37:12 AM
I was resigned to Unsworth but not if he's just a puppet!  There's no-one left!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jamokachi on November 17, 2017, 05:13:19 AM
Yeah, I am. 6 goals in 32 games is sensational :)

Seriously though, he's not that type of striker anyway.

I meant about the critique of the Sure session, it's a bit of a laugh, nothing more.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 17, 2017, 05:15:57 AM
I was resigned to Unsworth but not if he's just a puppet!  There's no-one left!

No puppet!  You're the puppet!! :D
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 17, 2017, 05:22:28 AM
On tef there's a lad saying its not unsworth picking the sides

Fucking hell la that’s a big claim
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 17, 2017, 06:01:00 AM
We should operate a continual rotation policy, so every player gets a chance.

Play all the players who have struggled to settle, until they come into form, then sub them off for someone else.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Shogun on November 17, 2017, 06:14:58 AM
Would Unsworth be being considered for the job if he wasn't picking the sides though?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 06:16:35 AM
Would Unsworth be being considered for the job if he wasn't picking the sides though?
Depends on who is recruiting
Moshiri or kenwright
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 17, 2017, 06:19:31 AM
If be surprised if thay was true, I think he certainly helps him, more of a collaboration than Unsworth just taking orders though.

He obviously has a close relationship with Joe, can't remember what game it was, but Joe had to be ushered away by the fourth official as he was trying to pass on instructions to Unsworth. I'm not sure why he can't be part of his official staff like Ebbrell, it would save all the pissing about.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: brap2 on November 17, 2017, 07:54:13 AM
He shouldn’t need joe mate, for goodness sake the man hasn’t had a manager’s job in decades. This guy is supposed to be a young up and coming coach surely he knows his onions enough to take it on himself?

Am I being daft here? Big Joe Royal shouldn’t be picking the fuckin teams surely!
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on November 17, 2017, 08:52:43 AM
Not sure I'm having it personally. Sounds unlikely.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: cantoffee on November 17, 2017, 06:30:20 PM
Can't understand him having Joe has a mentor and experienced head around to discuss ideas/issues/etc. But I can imagine Joe would have much of a say in the team, tactics, training. Having a mentor is normal and good practice in most careers, but needing them to do your job is not and I doubt that is the case.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 17, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
You just have to look at the make-up of the sides to know they are not Joe Royle sides.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 17, 2017, 06:53:42 PM
Depends on who is recruiting
Moshiri or kenwright

Kenwright really wants Unsworth and Royle together is what I have been told, so maybe there is some truth in it?
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Hawkandro on November 17, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
Am I being daft here? Big Joe Royal shouldn’t be picking the fuckin teams surely!

Smacks of Kenwright's romanticism though.
Title: Re: Which striker to go for in January?
Post by: Ridge on November 17, 2017, 11:36:03 PM
Given the scale of the task, it would have been a bit mad, not to lean on Royle's experience when needed.

Just there to give support and contribute anyway that he can.

People are always more willing to believe things that confirm their view, regardless of logic.