Post by: D15TIN on November 08, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
Think we need to stick with the XI that played the last 20-30minutes against Watford, Rooneys got to have a spell on the bench now. This is a good opportunity to end our poor away form, got to avoid defeat and put together a run of form with West Ham at home after this.
Pickford
Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines
Gana Davies
Lennon Lookman
Calvert-Lewin
Niasse
Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines
Gana Davies
Lennon Lookman
Calvert-Lewin
Niasse
1-0 Niasse
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 08, 2017, 11:12:03 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 08, 2017, 11:20:14 PM
Id go
Pickford
Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines
Baningime
Davies Sigurdsson Gueye*
Rooney
Niasse
*Gueye is in by skin of teeth tbh. I couldn't think of anyone else
Post by: Escla on November 08, 2017, 11:25:49 PM
I'd keep lookman and Lennon and even dcl on the bench as they can change a game if needed whereas others can't really
Id go
Pickford
Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines
Baningime
Davies Sigurdsson Gueye*
Rooney
Niasse
*Gueye is in by skin of teeth tbh. I couldn't think of anyone else
I think both Gueye and Davies are in by the skin of their teeth, Davies was absolute shite against Watford
we better have Vlassic and Lennon on the bench, in fact I would start Vlassic instead of Davies.
Post by: Macca77 on November 08, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
I think both Gueye and Davies are in by the skin of their teeth, Davies was absolute shite against Watford
we better have Vlassic and Lennon on the bench, in fact I would start Vlassic instead of Davies.
Agree with this
Post by: brap2 on November 08, 2017, 11:49:01 PM
Pickford
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Beni
Gueye Sigurdsson
Lennon Niasse Rooney
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Beni
Gueye Sigurdsson
Lennon Niasse Rooney
Sort of don’t know what I’m doing here. Want one sitting and two energetic fellas, and I want I guess Niasse on the pitch cause man scores goals so that’s like a fluid top 3 that presses and ya rooney false 9 looking for Niasse and sig to get beyond him or Lennon on the break.
I think that team gets beat and hopefully unsie has more of an idea than me!
Post by: TheTone on November 08, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
I think that's the way it works anyways
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 08, 2017, 11:57:43 PM
I think both Gueye and Davies are in by the skin of their teeth, Davies was absolute shite against WatfordYeah you are right there, I'd actually forgotten him!!
we better have Vlassic and Lennon on the bench, in fact I would start Vlassic instead of Davies.
Post by: Shogun on November 08, 2017, 11:59:55 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 09, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
Post by: Cozzie on November 09, 2017, 01:27:35 AM
Should always start the players who have shown the most attitude and commitment so far this season and these two have been top notch.
In fact I would sell the entire squad and build a team around these two.
Post by: velimski on November 09, 2017, 01:35:28 AM
Post by: BlueForYou on November 09, 2017, 01:43:22 AM
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Lookman Baningime Davies Vlasic
Calvert-Lewin Rooney
Bench: Robles; Holgate; Williams; Gueye; Sigurdsson; Lennon; Niasse
Post by: blargins on November 09, 2017, 02:28:36 AM
Would like to see something of Sandro too.
Post by: Martip on November 09, 2017, 03:12:40 AM
PickfordNot a big fan of the front 6 set up
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Lookman Baningime Davies Vlasic
Calvert-Lewin Rooney
Bench: Robles; Holgate; Williams; Gueye; Sigurdsson; Lennon; Niasse
Post by: brap2 on November 09, 2017, 03:28:10 AM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Lookman Baningime Davies Vlasic
Calvert-Lewin Rooney
Bench: Robles; Holgate; Williams; Gueye; Sigurdsson; Lennon; Niasse
Listen we all want width in the side mate but
Post by: Bluebridge on November 09, 2017, 05:20:11 AM
Listen we all want width in the side mate butI wish we would go 4-4-2, I think it would suit our squad too. Tried and trusted for years and everyone should know their job.
Post by: bluenuck on November 09, 2017, 12:47:25 PM
I hate to say it, but we really have to set up defensively for this one. Two holding mids who stay in position with a back four. Palace may be dead last but they have a certain style of play that can rip our back end apart if we're not careful.
Realistically I'd be happy with a draw. Sad times, but that's reality.
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on November 09, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 09, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on November 09, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
Post by: duncandisorderly on November 09, 2017, 06:01:25 PM
Post by: Gary1878 on November 09, 2017, 06:05:02 PM
I would go with this:
Pickford
Holgate Keane Jags Baines
Gana Bani Davies
Lennon Sigurdsson
DCL
A workaholic team with bags of energy to scrap a win.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 09, 2017, 07:00:27 PM
I don't think this is a game for Kenny. Palace will get the ball out wide to Zaha get him one on one with him. For this reason, we need to play it very tight in the game, otherwise we will lose,which is why i think Holgate has a better chance. With Palace, if you stop the wingers, you stop the goals, as they won't score from any other way. From what i have seen of Vlasic, he just isn't great at tracking back and doing his defensive work, which won't do in this game.This is probably the best 11 we can put out...and it’s FUCKING GRIM!
I would go with this:
Pickford
Holgate Keane Jags Baines
Gana Bani Davies
Lennon Sigurdsson
DCL
A workaholic team with bags of energy to scrap a win.
Oh, and Benteke is back for this one. Yay!
Post by: stirlingblue on November 09, 2017, 08:46:42 PM
One thing I noticed is that whilst they have width and pace going forward, they defend incredibly narrow. If we had anybody at that game then they'll have noted how much space Spurs fullbacks got in the final third.
I'd like to see us go 5 at the back and mirror what Spurs did to them, something like:
Pickford
Holgate Keane Jagielka
Kenny Baines
Banningeme Gueye Davies
Rooney Niasse
Post by: bluenuck on November 09, 2017, 08:48:21 PM
Need to build on last week here, draw would be decent. Worried about set pieces against us though, we're shit in the air at the moment.
It's funny, I'm just as worried about set pieces for us.
Post by: dazfrancis on November 09, 2017, 10:21:08 PM
I don't think this is a game for Kenny. Palace will get the ball out wide to Zaha get him one on one with him. For this reason, we need to play it very tight in the game, otherwise we will lose,which is why i think Holgate has a better chance. With Palace, if you stop the wingers, you stop the goals, as they won't score from any other way. From what i have seen of Vlasic, he just isn't great at tracking back and doing his defensive work, which won't do in this game.
I would go with this:
Pickford
Holgate Keane Jags Baines
Gana Bani Davies
Lennon Sigurdsson
DCL
A workaholic team with bags of energy to scrap a win.
Kenny had the best defensive stats in the league last weekend.
Post by: Gary1878 on November 09, 2017, 10:23:42 PM
Kenny had the best defensive stats in the league last weekend.
Genuinely interested - by what measures?
Post by: dazfrancis on November 09, 2017, 10:25:38 PM
Genuinely interested - by what measures?
Tackles and clearences
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jonjoe-kenny-evertons-unsung-hero-13866443
Post by: Gary1878 on November 09, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
Tackles and clearences
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jonjoe-kenny-evertons-unsung-hero-13866443
Good to see. I really like Kenny, but I still think this is a game to take him out of the line of fire. Zaha is the most fouled player in the league for a reason, and we need a player with a little more experience in there.
Kenny in the home games is a great option, but away from home he needs to be protected.
Post by: D15TIN on November 09, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
Good to see. I really like Kenny, but I still think this is a game to take him out of the line of fire. Zaha is the most fouled player in the league for a reason, and we need a player with a little more experience in there.Holgates been fucking dogshite all season
Kenny in the home games is a great option, but away from home he needs to be protected.
Post by: BlueForYou on November 09, 2017, 11:06:57 PM
Post by: brap2 on November 09, 2017, 11:49:54 PM
I think stick with Kenny while he’s hit form, and put Lennon on that side as well to double up.
Baines and Vlasic or Lookman on the other.
These are dogshite but have turned it around a bit and will fancy themselves at home against us. If they beat us they drag us right into it.
To be honest, I dunno, don’t really fancy us here with our current away record. Draw wouldn’t be terrible but every win is gold dust atm in my opinion.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2017, 12:08:13 AM
Good to see. I really like Kenny, but I still think this is a game to take him out of the line of fire. Zaha is the most fouled player in the league for a reason, and we need a player with a little more experience in there.Benteke will try to peel off our CBs and target Kenny in the air, too.
Kenny in the home games is a great option, but away from home he needs to be protected.
Post by: gizzblue on November 10, 2017, 12:16:55 AM
Post by: GLewis on November 10, 2017, 03:08:35 AM
Benteke will try to peel off our CBs and target Kenny in the air, too.
To be fair that’s the one area where I think he’s stood out.
Think he’s better in the air than Holgate in that he’s a bit more physical and decent positioning.
Post by: mikey_blue on November 10, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
Benteke will try to peel off our CBs and target Kenny in the air, too.
Always count on a striker to come back from an Injury lay off and score against us.
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2017, 02:58:12 PM
Pickford
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Beni
Gueye Sigurdsson
Lennon Niasse Rooney
Sort of don’t know what I’m doing here. Want one sitting and two energetic fellas, and I want I guess Niasse on the pitch cause man scores goals so that’s like a fluid top 3 that presses and ya rooney false 9 looking for Niasse and sig to get beyond him or Lennon on the break.
I think that team gets beat and hopefully unsie has more of an idea than me!
Do we all really think Rooney deserves to start ?
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2017, 03:46:59 PM
Horrible place to go.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2017, 04:45:13 PM
Can't wait for these to go down.They’ll beat us
Horrible place to go.
Post by: Toddacelli on November 10, 2017, 05:41:31 PM
Benteke followed by a Niasse perfect hat-trick - arse, face, balls
Post by: blue1948 on November 10, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
1-3Now that would be worth a bet ,good odds for sure.
Benteke followed by a Niasse perfect hat-trick - arse, face, balls
Post by: blue1948 on November 10, 2017, 09:19:42 PM
Post by: gizzblue on November 10, 2017, 10:23:33 PM
Do we all really think Rooney deserves to start ?No not at all personally he's awful .. .despite loads thinking he's the second coming ...but hey Rhino is his buddy so...
Post by: D15TIN on November 11, 2017, 12:48:57 AM
1-3HHAHA
Benteke followed by a Niasse perfect hat-trick - arse, face, balls
Post by: D15TIN on November 11, 2017, 12:50:02 AM
No not at all personally he's awful .. .despite loads thinking he's the second coming ...but hey Rhino is his buddy so...In all honesty I think unsworths the only one who would drop him - Not a chance the likes of allardyce or dyche would
Post by: gizzblue on November 11, 2017, 01:03:08 AM
In all honesty I think unsworths the only one who would drop him - Not a chance the likes of allardyce or dyche wouldHere's hoping ....I would love to be proven wrong but imho he's no good for us .
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2017, 02:55:41 AM
Do we all really think Rooney deserves to start ?
Errm yeah it’s a fair question not his biggest fan myself, but at the same time hes one of the few with quality on the ball and a threat from both individual bits of ability or by being part of a move.
I do sort of think we’re going through what like 3 united managers went though which is like recognising his quality but slowly seeing that he’s actually a bit difficult to use at this point of his career despite his obvious quality and star factor.
Ultimately - capable of threat, and we lack that almost entirely, so he has to play regardless.
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2017, 03:11:50 AM
Do we all really think Rooney deserves to start ?For me, yes
Post by: blue slug on November 11, 2017, 07:19:09 PM
Post by: blue slug on November 12, 2017, 03:32:53 AM
Post by: Escla on November 12, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
Yeah Holgate gets done on the regular himself. Did well against Sane though if I remember correctly?
I think stick with Kenny while he’s hit form, and put Lennon on that side as well to double up.
Baines and Vlasic or Lookman on the other.
These are dogshite but have turned it around a bit and will fancy themselves at home against us. If they beat us they drag us right into it.
To be honest, I dunno, don’t really fancy us here with our current away record. Draw wouldn’t be terrible but every win is gold dust atm in my opinion.
If these are "dogshite" with Zaha, Loftus Cheek and Benteke then I don't know what we are ? Hodgson is slowly getting them organised and a point would be a decent result, we were lucky to get three last week against Watford, if Cleveley hadn't missed we would still be in the drop zone.
Post by: Ramjam on November 12, 2017, 02:43:38 PM
If these are "dogshite" with Zaha, Loftus Cheek and Benteke then I don't know what we are ? Hodgson is slowly getting them organised and a point would be a decent result, we were lucky to get three last week against Watford, if Cleveley hadn't missed we would still be in the drop zone.
We should be aiming for all 3 points against the bottom team. One point will just confirm that we are at their level and the reality is although we are playing poorly atm we are able to do much more with the squad we have. Must go for the win and I think we will win it.
Post by: Escla on November 12, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
We should be aiming for all 3 points against the bottom team. One point will just confirm that we are at their level and the reality is although we are playing poorly atm we are able to do much more with the squad we have. Must go for the win and I think we will win it.
Of course we should be aiming for three points, nobody would dispute that and we must go for the win but still maintain that a point is a realistic outcome given that we are no better than them on current form
and they have hone advantage.
Post by: Martip on November 12, 2017, 03:59:42 PM
Of course we should be aiming for three points, nobody would dispute that and we must go for the win but still maintain that a point is a realistic outcome given that we are no better than them on current formSad state of affairs ain't it that we we are considering whether home advantage will come into play against the bottom team in the league.
and they have hone advantage.
Post by: Ramjam on November 12, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
Sad state of affairs ain't it that we we are considering whether home advantage will come into play against the bottom team in the league.
Spot on my point exactly
Post by: Escla on November 12, 2017, 04:13:18 PM
Sad state of affairs ain't it that we we are considering whether home advantage will come into play against the bottom team in the league.
Yes, it is a sad state of affairs, agree entirely but as I said, where it not for a penalty miss we would be second bottom and yes, home advantage does play a significant part.
Post by: eugene on November 12, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
Come back from the break stronger as opposed to the usual square one.
Post by: brap2 on November 12, 2017, 10:42:33 PM
If these are "dogshite" with Zaha, Loftus Cheek and Benteke then I don't know what we are ? Hodgson is slowly getting them organised and a point would be a decent result, we were lucky to get three last week against Watford, if Cleveley hadn't missed we would still be in the drop zone.
I absolutely 100% agree, both sides are dogshite but they have a squad more apt for staying in the prem at the moment, ours is fucking shot to bits.
Post by: boothill on November 13, 2017, 12:08:27 AM
Post by: Jamokachi on November 13, 2017, 02:23:36 AM
These have been a bit of a bogey team for us the last few seasons, Dann always has a blinder against us too
They love Merseyside opposition.
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 13, 2017, 05:42:56 AM
These have been a bit of a bogey team for us the last few seasons, Dann always has a blinder against us tooThey were the last team we beat away in the league.
Post by: boothill on November 13, 2017, 05:48:11 AM
They were the last team we beat away in the league.Wow, that was january, coleman very late on, seems like a life time ago
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 13, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
They were the last team we beat away in the league.
Yeah, been more of a bogey side at Goodison. Since they came back into prem we've played 8 times, won 2 (both away, drew 4 and lost 2 (both 3-2 at home)
Post by: D15TIN on November 13, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
We should be aiming for all 3 points against the bottom team. One point will just confirm that we are at their level and the reality is although we are playing poorly atm we are able to do much more with the squad we have. Must go for the win and I think we will win it.Im sure we will go for the win, a draw wouldn't be the worst result away from home though - provided we then followed it up with a home win against west ham, need to start a run of good form
Post by: Morta75 on November 14, 2017, 01:28:34 AM
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Davis Mirallas
Sigurdsson
Rooney (Niasse on from 60)
2-0 win, Mirallas and Niasse
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 14, 2017, 04:38:36 AM
Post by: bluenuck on November 14, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
It blows to say this but we need to just get any result on the road no matter who we're playing, and then take our chances at home to get 3 points. It's just where we are right now. If we do this we'll slowly work our way up the table and be fine.
This game scares me though. Palace play a way that can rip our back end apart and only have 30% possession.
Post by: Macca77 on November 14, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 14, 2017, 02:28:35 PM
We need a point. And we need to set up to get that point.Palace outplayed Spurs and West Ham in their last 2 games, although the results didn’t reflect that.
It blows to say this but we need to just get any result on the road no matter who we're playing, and then take our chances at home to get 3 points. It's just where we are right now. If we do this we'll slowly work our way up the table and be fine.
This game scares me though. Palace play a way that can rip our back end apart and only have 30% possession.
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 14, 2017, 03:59:40 PM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Davis Mirallas
Sigurdsson
Rooney (Niasse on from 60)
2-0 win, Mirallas and Niasse
Don't think I'm comfortable playing them with 10 men. Good to see some confidence though
Post by: Escla on November 14, 2017, 04:48:51 PM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Davis Mirallas
Sigurdsson
Rooney (Niasse on from 60)
2-0 win, Mirallas and Niasse
We could probably even add Gueye to that starting ten and stand an even better chance !
Post by: bigmanbob on November 15, 2017, 04:38:13 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 15, 2017, 04:51:05 AM
Loftus Cheek has gone off injured tonight, good player him and a big loss for Who at the weekendOooh ooh I think i know this one
Is it crystal Palace?
Post by: GLewis on November 15, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
It’s impossible to go from not playing well at all, to suddenly start thinking of dominating matches etc.
We’ve gone 0-2 down in all four of Unsy’s matches so far; this can’t continue.
Be solid and give ourselves a more than good chance of getting something out of all of these games.
Post by: Toddacelli on November 15, 2017, 06:14:19 PM
First priority in this (and the upcoming league games) should be clean sheets.
It’s impossible to go from not playing well at all, to suddenly start thinking of dominating matches etc.
We’ve gone 0-2 down in all four of Unsy’s matches so far; this can’t continue.
Be solid and give ourselves a more than good chance of getting something out of all of these games.
Like England did last night. Always knew they'd be second best but competed well and did not concede.
Post by: D15TIN on November 15, 2017, 11:09:27 PM
Heard bolasie was back in full training this week with the rest of the squad?
Post by: mikey_blue on November 16, 2017, 12:17:10 AM
Anyone heard anything regarding Bolasie, Coleman or Barkley injuries?
Heard bolasie was back in full training this week with the rest of the squad?
Bolasie was back on Monday, I think Seamus took part in some light training with Ireland. there's pictures on the internet. Not heard anything on Ross, Can't see him coming back.
Post by: toffee_scot on November 16, 2017, 12:22:37 AM
Also I know he's not as highly rated but considering lack of options in defence, there seems to have been no update with regards to Funes Mori's progress.
Post by: mikey_blue on November 16, 2017, 12:31:20 AM
Probably just before Christmas before Bolasie, Coleman and Barkley return.
Also I know he's not as highly rated but considering lack of options in defence, there seems to have been no update with regards to Funes Mori's progress.
Initial reports said that he was out for the season.
Post by: D15TIN on November 16, 2017, 12:38:50 AM
Probably just before Christmas before Bolasie, Coleman and Barkley return.Think mori might be out the season, you know it's bad when he would likely walk straight in to the side
Also I know he's not as highly rated but considering lack of options in defence, there seems to have been no update with regards to Funes Mori's progress.
Post by: eugene on November 16, 2017, 01:01:35 AM
Post by: D15TIN on November 16, 2017, 01:06:39 AM
It’s a shame for the lads who have long term injuries I get the feeling they loose a bit of something. Very rare come back as wasI expect coleman to be fine, he's a fighter and wont shirk any challenge or anything like that, Bolasies probably more of a worry as he's a sprinter and could easily pull up again
Post by: brap2 on November 16, 2017, 01:08:10 AM
Would be interested in seeing other players with similar injuries and their career trajectories but I imagine it wouldn’t make very pleasant viewing.
I think Ross isn’t even injured personally. Back just in time for Jan yeah 🙄
No idea when Coleman or FM are back. Coleman back kicking a ball though.
Post by: eugene on November 16, 2017, 01:14:46 AM
Doesn't it take 2 years to get back to "full health' if you get Bolassie's injury? I think Falcao is only just back this year after 2 years in England totally goosed.Yes I understand the timescale but I just think they get a bit of glass back syndrome
Would be interested in seeing other players with similar injuries and their career trajectories but I imagine it wouldn't make very pleasant viewing.
I think Ross isn't even injured personally. Back just in time for Jan yeah
No idea when Coleman or FM are back. Coleman back kicking a ball though.
Post by: mikey_blue on November 16, 2017, 01:22:44 AM
Doesn’t it take 2 years to get back to ‘full health’ if you get Bolassie’s injury? I think Falcao is only just back this year after 2 years in England totally goosed.
Would be interested in seeing other players with similar injuries and their career trajectories but I imagine it wouldn’t make very pleasant viewing.
I think Ross isn’t even injured personally. Back just in time for Jan yeah 🙄
No idea when Coleman or FM are back. Coleman back kicking a ball though.
Totally dependent on the skill set. I think Bolasie is going to have a really tough time, the way he plays involves so much shifting of weight and putting strain on the joints.
Falcao took so long because he moved through 3 different leagues and 4 teams straight after the injury. He never got to settle into his game and get his fitness/ sharpness back. He's fucking boss now like.
Post by: Django on November 16, 2017, 03:01:28 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 16, 2017, 03:12:12 AM
Vlasic in the U-23s for the weekendIt's all a bit bizarre with him isnt it
Post by: Django on November 16, 2017, 03:18:16 AM
It's all a bit bizarre with him isnt itThink it could well be the case that he looked good when we were in Koeman’s darkest hour but he’s probably not that good. Was surprised to see him in the team so soon tbh
Post by: kramer0 on November 16, 2017, 03:20:46 AM
Unsworth has been such a great man manager at the U23 level, working with whatever we need him to (like Niasse, for example). I'm surprised at how poorly he's handled some of the first team squad management decisions since he's been in charge.
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 16, 2017, 03:21:02 AM
Think it could well be the case that he looked good when we were in Koeman's darkest hour but he's probably not that good. Was surprised to see him in the team so soon tbhMaybe, thought he had a bit about him tho myself. Not just cos we were awful
Id rather him than mirallas for certain
Post by: Django on November 16, 2017, 06:19:02 AM
Maybe, thought he had a bit about him tho myself. Not just cos we were awful
Id rather him than mirallas for certain
Think unsworth has definitely attempted to turn to his senior members of his squad to get us out of this rut, which makes sense. However I would have to agree with you on the Mirallas statement.
That fella has needed showing the door for 3 years, can’t believe he’s still here let alone being picked.
Post by: brap2 on November 16, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 16, 2017, 02:26:08 PM
Mirallas another glaring example of our inability to build on a squad and replace when necessary since Moyes left.
Vlasic should be on the bench minimum. Very highly rated player, give him game time. He looked like a solid hard worker which is what Unsy was after
Post by: D15TIN on November 16, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
Vlasic should be on the bench minimum. Very highly rated player, give him game time. He looked like a solid hard worker which is what Unsy was afterkeeps hold of the ball better than most aswell
Post by: gizzblue on November 16, 2017, 10:51:11 PM
Vlasic should be on the bench minimum. Very highly rated player, give him game time. He looked like a solid hard worker which is what Unsy was afterShame Unsie sticks with the few he had under him in the youth set up only....i fear for Vlasic ,Sandro and any other who's been pushed out since he took over.
Post by: velimski on November 16, 2017, 11:12:55 PM
Post by: Polledreng on November 16, 2017, 11:26:20 PM
Shame Unsie sticks with the few he had under him in the youth set up only....i fear for Vlasic ,Sandro and any other who's been pushed out since he took over.me too
Post by: blargins on November 16, 2017, 11:44:56 PM
Shame Unsie sticks with the few he had under him in the youth set up only....i fear for Vlasic ,Sandro and any other who's been pushed out since he took over.
It's only a temporary thing. I doubt he'll get the job permanently. Then all the players should be given a clean slate and prove themselves worthy again. Just like the new manager.
Post by: gizzblue on November 17, 2017, 12:03:02 AM
It's only a temporary thing. I doubt he'll get the job permanently. Then all the players should be given a clean slate and prove themselves worthy again. Just like the new manager.Shame they never got one under Rhino though ,I expected a bit more from him tbh.
Post by: blargins on November 17, 2017, 12:07:18 AM
Shame they never got one under Rhino though ,I expected a bit more from him tbh.
True. But I guess he's going with what he knows. But a few weeks out won't harm any of them. They'll come back fresh and... like new signings :)
Post by: TheTone on November 17, 2017, 03:18:58 AM
I'm even hearing those drums they love to bang in my ears as they take a late 1 nil lead
anyone else hear them?
Post by: TheRam on November 17, 2017, 05:28:41 AM
Post by: bornblue88 on November 17, 2017, 05:52:38 AM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Lennon Schneiderlin Gana Mirallas
Niasse
I reckon we could nick it if we just keep it tight, get into them and be patient. It's really hard to call though and any result wouldn't surprise me so i'm ok with a draw, quality of the opposition aside we need stability atm
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
My preferred 11 from the players available (given that kev and morgan have sorted their heads out and got on board) would be:We need eleven players pal
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Lennon Schneiderlin Gana Mirallas
Niasse
I reckon we could nick it if we just keep it tight, get into them and be patient. It's really hard to call though and any result wouldn't surprise me so i'm ok with a draw, quality of the opposition aside we need stability atm
Post by: bornblue88 on November 17, 2017, 05:58:39 AM
We need eleven players pal
:bonk: It's been a long day haha
sigurdsson behind niasse ;)
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 06:03:19 AM
:bonk: It's been a long day hahaAgree with most of your side but I'm so fed up with mirallas being a twat I'd fuck him off totally
sigurdsson behind niasse ;)
Post by: brap2 on November 17, 2017, 07:50:25 AM
Post by: Ramjam on November 17, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
Congratulations mate and hope you have a great day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 17, 2017, 11:29:38 AM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.Congratulations mate.
TBH I’d swerve anything Everton related, don’t give us the chance to ruin your day!
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 03:39:36 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.Congratulations pal
Post by: TheRam on November 17, 2017, 03:42:46 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
Is right Brap2
Post by: dax78 on November 17, 2017, 06:10:48 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
Everton will shit all over your day, if you even think about the match.
Forget they are even playing, enjoy the day, and check the result about 2:00 in the morning..................guar anteed win then.
Congrats by the way
Post by: april on November 17, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Post by: Confucius on November 17, 2017, 08:10:08 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 17, 2017, 08:23:34 PM
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Davies Beni Gueye
Rooney
Niasse
That's my guess
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 17, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.Have a great day mate, it goes so quickly so enjoy every second and wish you and your beloved a long and happy future.
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 17, 2017, 10:07:17 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
All the best mate and good luck.
Post by: brap2 on November 17, 2017, 11:25:12 PM
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 17, 2017, 11:40:17 PM
In my head you are only like 21 so that seems awful young to be getting married
Good luck my good man
Really hope the blues help contribute to an amazing day
💙💙💙
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 12:10:07 AM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Schneiderlin
Davies Beni Gueye
Rooney
Niasse
That's my guess
Some pace and energy in that side.
Post by: april on November 18, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
Aw thanks guys! Up the fucking bluesI hope you worked out the message in my pictures. Have a great day.
Post by: brap2 on November 18, 2017, 02:18:56 AM
@brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666)
In my head you are only like 21 so that seems awful young to be getting married
Good luck my good man
Really hope the blues help contribute to an amazing day
💙💙💙
30 bro! Thank you lerd.
Post by: Django on November 18, 2017, 02:42:58 AM
Benni and Besic joining Vlasic in the u-23s
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 03:18:00 AM
Post by: Gash on November 18, 2017, 03:19:17 AM
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 18, 2017, 03:21:07 AM
My preferred 11 from the players available (given that kev and morgan have sorted their heads out and got on board) would be:
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Lennon Schneiderlin Gana Mirallas
Niasse
I reckon we could nick it if we just keep it tight, get into them and be patient. It's really hard to call though and any result wouldn't surprise me so i'm ok with a draw, quality of the opposition aside we need stability atm
That is the worst Everton lineup I've ever seen.
Post by: GLewis on November 18, 2017, 03:34:48 AM
Lennon Niasse Lookman tomorrow.
Benni and Besic joining Vlasic in the u-23s
Any idea what’s behind them?
Post by: burkey17 on November 18, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
Interesting. Beni is our best pure DM on current form.Must mean Snides is back in the mix? And his post on twitter sort of said it today?
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 18, 2017, 05:34:12 AM
Any idea what’s behind them?
Feels like the most sensible option would be Gana/Schneiderlin/Davies
But it’s hard to not imagine either Rooney, Sigurdsson or both being shoe horned in there somewhere
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 05:34:32 AM
Post by: brap2 on November 18, 2017, 07:04:03 AM
I hope you worked out the message in my pictures. Have a great day.
I really can’t work it out!
Edit: ah jeez just clicked! Haha
Post by: Django on November 18, 2017, 07:28:57 AM
Post by: burkey17 on November 18, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
Pickford Kenny Baines Keane Jags Schniderlin Gueye Lennon Davies Lookman Niasse4-1-4-1? Anyway wait and see....
Post by: bornblue88 on November 18, 2017, 08:32:19 AM
Agree with most of your side but I'm so fed up with mirallas being a twat I'd fuck him off totallyThat's fair tbh, I've never really understood how some fans can't see that he's essentially an empty head footballer. He's only in for his experience but I would plan to replace him first after 60 mins, probs with Calvert-lewin.
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:21:06 AM
Looks like we're not on TV tomorrow @Evertonian in NC (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3784) Only on Gold. And they're only showing one live game now at a time I see to force people to pay the extra $50. Bastards.
Y, for us in the States, we shouldn't be surprised. We pay these huge cable companies $150 a month... NBC gives us a taste of every Everton match every week, just to pull it away and ask for MOAR $$.
F**k off. Is there such a thing as "cord cutting" back in Blighty for our local Blues? I'm ready to make the move on that... the only reason I pay these bastards was for Everton. I don't really need HBO - HBO can eat a ****.
I'm happy to listen to the official site audio from now on, COYB, rant over.
Post by: cantoffee on November 18, 2017, 09:27:56 AM
Pickford Kenny Baines Keane Jags Schniderlin Gueye Lennon Davies Lookman NiasseIn theory should be solid and tough to break down which is probably the right move.
Davies given license to roam forward and probably hope that with the pace of Lennon, Lookman, and Niasse that we can hit them on the break.
Looking forward to this!
Post by: Confucius on November 18, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 18, 2017, 01:46:23 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
Get the fuck outa town. Didn’t realise it was gonna happen let alone happening today.
I’ve always had the feeling your missus was some A1 tail.
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 02:01:55 PM
Post by: GLewis on November 18, 2017, 02:13:53 PM
Worried about passing but if we’re just sitting deep then it won’t be too much of an issue unless we go behind.
Post by: Ih8redshite on November 18, 2017, 02:19:09 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 03:33:12 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.
Aww, Brapster, that's awesome 😃
Big congratulations to you both 🥂
Put some pics up, man (no, not @TheTone (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4357) style pics!)
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 03:52:50 PM
Lennon Niasse Lookman tomorrow.
Benni and Besic joining Vlasic in the u-23s
That is a real shame, and quite bemusing.
Maybe the Big Joe rumours are correct after all.
I thought Baningime was doing well, especially with his positional discipline.
And Vlasic was probably our standout performer under Koeman, strong running, busy, direct, good passing.
They have actually been the two main players, along with Lookman and the incomparable Niasse, that have given me a glimmer of hope this season.
Post by: Zoolander on November 18, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
Getting married on Saturday so thinking of lashing a wedge on the mighty blues for some super wedding day luck.Good luck Brap
Post by: DannyR on November 18, 2017, 05:04:27 PM
Win 0-1 Niasse
Post by: Django on November 18, 2017, 05:19:18 PM
I’m pretty happy about that, more shape added to the mid.
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Schneiderlin Gueye
Lennon Sig Lookman
Niasse
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 05:42:32 PM
Y, for us in the States, we shouldn't be surprised. We pay these huge cable companies $150 a month... NBC gives us a taste of every Everton match every week, just to pull it away and ask for MOAR $$.
F**k off. Is there such a thing as "cord cutting" back in Blighty for our local Blues? I'm ready to make the move on that... the only reason I pay these bastards was for Everton. I don't really need HBO - HBO can eat a ****.
I'm happy to listen to the official site audio from now on, COYB, rant over.
There'll be a free streaming feed come up on here somewhere. I'm with you, and I'd quite happily cut cable myself, and stick to Netflix, Hulu etc and the free channels, but the rest of the family still watches it.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 18, 2017, 05:55:29 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 18, 2017, 06:32:34 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 06:35:33 PM
Post by: everton1952 on November 18, 2017, 07:33:02 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 07:34:06 PM
Hodgson has worked hard to get them drilled into playing without a striker, but rather two wide front players. If they try to switch system to accommodate Benteke then it might break down that organisation.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
Looks like we're not on TV tomorrow @Evertonian in NC (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3784) Only on Gold. And they're only showing one live game now at a time I see to force people to pay the extra $50. Bastards.
I stay with the cable because I am old and prefer watching TV without the unpredictability of streaming (plus I am a compulsive channel flipping sports watcher). That and HBO.
And I guess I do watch a lot of TV, being mostly a recluse and all, but fuck me, you and Cuttyblue are right, it's evil as fuck. I paid the bastards their $50.
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 07:51:08 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 07:54:46 PM
Post by: DannyR on November 18, 2017, 07:56:41 PM
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 07:58:05 PM
I think the Silva thing is happening regardless, and I think there is no plan B beyond Unsy regardless (unless we plummet and we are forced to move around Christmas).
Maybe so. I just think there's a lot of support coming from the Kenwright corner. Today will put that idea on the back burner if we lose/play badly.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 07:58:57 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 18, 2017, 08:01:50 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Put Davies in for Gana and I'd be ecstatic.
Post by: chart7 on November 18, 2017, 08:05:46 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 08:07:41 PM
Post by: Gash on November 18, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
Post by: Gash on November 18, 2017, 08:12:12 PM
Win 2-1 benteke
I think you're looking for this thread. ;)
https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=94990.0
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 08:13:48 PM
I wonder if that's Mirallas binned off for good?
Your lips to God's ears...
Post by: everton1952 on November 18, 2017, 08:16:19 PM
Post by: Normm on November 18, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
I think the Silva thing is happening regardless, ...
I hope you're wrong. Watford could quite easily lose their next four games. Then the Blues could be heaving a sigh of relief. I really can't see that he is the answer for Everton right now.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 08:19:11 PM
Where was Sandro when they found him? And who is the culprit who tried to find him?
They found him where Mirallas was after he'd walked out the door.
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 08:19:17 PM
We are gonna hammer them lads I can feel it!
Come on!
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 08:20:34 PM
Shame. Hope its not a fall out.
Post by: American Evertonian on November 18, 2017, 08:20:37 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 08:22:12 PM
A part of me wants Niasse coming off the bench though, but hopefully that's where he'll be coming from once we buy a decent striker in Jan. That's not a slight at Niasse, I just think he's better option for us off the bench.
Post by: MarcusFenix on November 18, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/7dswy3/1500_gmt_crystal_palace_vs_everton/
If anyone gets an acestream link can they post it please
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 08:24:54 PM
There looks to be some balance to that side, though.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 08:24:59 PM
Hoping for a Sandro cameo. I still think he could have something to offer (I realize Im in the minority though).
I don't see any reason why Sandro can't make it with us. Once we have a good balanced team gaining confidence, he can be eased in. I definitely think he can contribute something for us.
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 08:31:05 PM
I hope you're wrong. Watford could quite easily lose their next four games. Then the Blues could be heaving a sigh of relief. I really can't see that he is the answer for Everton right now.
But who is? Not being smart who else would come now?
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Would be great to see Sandro come on and get a goal, sometimes just need to announce arrival on the pitch to help settle.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 18, 2017, 08:32:20 PM
Still would like to have seen a front 2 of Niasse and DCL, cant moan tho/ Lookman starts :D
COYB
Post by: gizzblue on November 18, 2017, 08:33:47 PM
Post by: velimski on November 18, 2017, 08:33:51 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
Post by: TSGun on November 18, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
Can't believe I'm actually thinking that.
Post by: blueski on November 18, 2017, 08:40:33 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 08:44:36 PM
COYB, how about a first half goal?
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 08:46:01 PM
Really hope the lads can get a win for Unsworth today - ultimately the job might be too much for him but cant help but like him
I don't think we can assume the job is too big for him until he gets a run of games to prove as much. A win here might ruffle a few feathers in the boardroom though.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 08:46:29 PM
Post by: gizzblue on November 18, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Rooney ought to be in place of Schneiderlin, who has shown us next to nothing this season.Is that you Ronald ?.
COYB, how about a first half goal?
He would just get in everyone's way ...the way the team is set up adding him would lead to an unbalanced starting team ....yet again .
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 08:49:24 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 08:52:29 PM
Balance is great and all, but I fear we're getting to the end of the 1st half with 0-1 shots on target.
*EDIT*
Streams, anyone, as soon as you find a good one?
Post by: chart7 on November 18, 2017, 08:53:38 PM
I think you're looking for this thread. ;)Not a great start to the afternoon.... Can't even post in the right thread!
https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=94990.0
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 08:54:52 PM
Hoping for a Sandro cameo. I still think he could have something to offer (I realize Im in the minority though).
Totally agree.
Post by: gizzblue on November 18, 2017, 08:56:08 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but who is going to provide the forward passing without Rooney?Gylfi without Rooney is a different player ....Lennon and Lookman are there to stifle their wingers trying to go the other way ...but Lennon gets forward plenty and opens space in the middle ....rekon we will thrive without Rooney in the way .
Balance is great and all, but I fear we're getting to the end of the 1st half with 0-1 shots on target.
*EDIT*
Streams, anyone, as soon as you find a good one?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 18, 2017, 08:56:30 PM
Totally agree.
we do need a left back..
think we will win 1-3 :D
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 18, 2017, 08:58:33 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:00:07 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:00:58 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:01:43 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 18, 2017, 09:01:55 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:02:09 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:02:15 PM
Oh wait, that’s just depressing.
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 09:02:24 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:02:32 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
Post by: Ball8y on November 18, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
Post by: Tinga on November 18, 2017, 09:02:46 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 18, 2017, 09:02:58 PM
http://allsportsnation.eu/rs4.html
boooo to the goal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 18, 2017, 09:03:13 PM
will trade links for likes.
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
FFS
Havent even found a fucking stream yet.
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:03:24 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Take Rooney out of the team, and you get a better balance. Hopefully this will prove to be on kick off.
Maybe not lol
Post by: Tofifee on November 18, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:03:46 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:04:40 PM
Post by: Smingers on November 18, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:05:35 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:05:36 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:06:03 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:06:25 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:06:51 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:06:52 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:06:53 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:07:13 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
Post by: Ball8y on November 18, 2017, 09:07:20 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:08:07 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:08:45 PM
We’ve lacked that directness
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:10:38 PM
Post by: Tinga on November 18, 2017, 09:10:55 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:11:09 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:11:18 PM
Sigurdsson playing deeper than Gana. For some reason.
Maybe he misses Wayne after all? :D
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:11:35 PM
Working stream pls ??http://nowwatchtvlive.net/stream-10-hd-soccer-football-nba-nhl-ufc-links/
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 09:12:13 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
Imagine having a player that picks up the ball and runs at the centre halves in the box. I forgot they existed. You don't try you don't get.
Plus look at the state of today's weather. No call for intricate FIFA shit. Perfect day for Lennon/Niasse/Lookman to hit it straight on.
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:12:44 PM
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2017, 09:14:23 PM
Suspended for the next game if so.
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
I miss Gareth Barry
yes, this is deffo a Barry match
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 18, 2017, 09:14:55 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
Was it a dive?
Suspended for the next game if so.
there was SOME contact, he just made a meal of it
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:15:48 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:16:00 PM
It can be done...
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:17:38 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:17:42 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:17:49 PM
Post by: Zoolander on November 18, 2017, 09:18:13 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
Post by: howard1334 on November 18, 2017, 09:19:44 PM
What Niasse does with what skill level he has to work with should put Kevin Mirallas especially to shame.
Uncalled for.
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:20:24 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:21:15 PM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 18, 2017, 09:22:23 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:22:40 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 09:22:46 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:23:08 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:23:40 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:23:53 PM
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 18, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:24:09 PM
Well played by Lennon there covering. But who gave away the easy ball in the first place?
think it was Gana
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 18, 2017, 09:24:26 PM
Painful trying to find a decent stream these days, even the 1s you guys say are working dont for me
Same.
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:24:49 PM
http://livestreaming24.net/watch/Crystal%20Palace-Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 18, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:25:24 PM
Is Vlasic injured? He'd do well against these.
Just what I was thinking. A player who will attack a defender in these conditions.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:25:34 PM
Painful trying to find a decent stream these days, even the 1s you guys say are working dont for me
They are deffo clamping down. Then the streams still left are over-used.
Post by: Tinga on November 18, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
@Tinga (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1082) reddit is breaking my fucking balls here. You the same?
Yeah mate I've resigned to just checking here for updates.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
They are deffo clamping down. Then the streams still left are over-used.
Id happily pay a couple of hundred quid for the 38 Everton games. Im not paying for 8 everton games and a load of shite I wont watch though
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 09:28:56 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:30:31 PM
Post by: Aussievertonian on November 18, 2017, 09:30:32 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:31:16 PM
Post by: MarcusFenix on November 18, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
@Tinga (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1082) reddit is breaking my fucking balls here. You the same?
Me too, just shit loads of crappy flash links with too many ads, riddling my poor old laptop
Can't even find a working acestream link
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
Sports devil, bundesliga stream for anyone on kodi
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 18, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
They are deffo clamping down. Then the streams still left are over-used.
I'm on Dark Side on the US 3pm games. Great stream
Post by: Bluebridge on November 18, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:32:41 PM
What does Schniderlin do? And Siggirdson for that matter?
I don't want to be critical because I can't see the game because F'ING NBC and THESE CRAP STREAMS, but again, Schniderlin sounds completely awful.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:33:13 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:33:52 PM
http://www.hesgoal.com/news/22241/Crystal_Palace_vs_Everton_FC.html
Bloody hell this 1 works xxxxx
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:34:01 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:34:48 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:35:04 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
Post by: Aussievertonian on November 18, 2017, 09:35:10 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:35:49 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:36:06 PM
We are a disaster.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:36:08 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:36:23 PM
Post by: Aussievertonian on November 18, 2017, 09:36:34 PM
Post by: toffee_scot on November 18, 2017, 09:36:39 PM
Fucking hell this is going to be such a long and painful season for Everton.
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 18, 2017, 09:36:40 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:36:45 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:36:47 PM
How bad is Morgan?
Been giving it the big un this week on Twitter. Telling people to zip it. He might want to show as much bottle on the pitch instead.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
Post by: MarcusFenix on November 18, 2017, 09:36:51 PM
http://www.hesgoal.com/news/22241/Crystal_Palace_vs_Everton_FC.html
Nice one
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:37:10 PM
Unsworth can't have another game.
Thought he'd at least organize us, given all that he's done with the U23s.
Nope.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
Post by: Zoolander on November 18, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
Post by: YellowHold on November 18, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
Post by: duncandisorderly on November 18, 2017, 09:37:30 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:38:24 PM
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 18, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 09:38:50 PM
Post by: Tofifee on November 18, 2017, 09:38:56 PM
we fookin well can, and if we do, we could as easily do a Leeds as anything else
Fact is, right now, Everton are probably the worst team in the league
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Probably asking a bit too much there like considering no one even wants the fucking thing.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
Everyone wants to be a bit snobby but at some stage people might need to be realistic about where we are and accept Allardyce. We are currently terrible. Weve been 2nd best in every league game this season. Thats not just relegation form its almost unheard of its so bad
Just. No. Fucking. Way.
- American Snob
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:39:16 PM
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 18, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
We all just assume we "cant" go down
we fookin well can, and if we do, we could as easily do a Leeds as anything else
Fact is, right now, Everton are probably the worst team in the league
Comfortably the worst side in the league. Surely theres not another side who hasnt outplayed anyone this season?
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 09:40:26 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:40:47 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:41:02 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:41:17 PM
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Appointing a new manager in the international break to give him ample time with the players.
It would have been good I reckon, dunno what everyone else thinks.
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 18, 2017, 09:41:41 PM
Baines can’t cope with Loftus Cheek at all
Because he's finished.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:41:48 PM
Just. No. Fucking. Way.
- American Snob
We could easily go down. We are in desperate trouble in terms of what weve seen. The only arguement against it is we are everton we'll be alright
Post by: Robber Rodwell on November 18, 2017, 09:41:49 PM
Good stream here. Too good for watching this shite. Need to replace the entire back line.
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
What I can't get my head around though is how we can't put a few passes together, we genuinely look like we have 9 men
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 18, 2017, 09:42:10 PM
Unsworth can't have another game.Agreed. Would also agree when people say he needs more time, however, we can’t be conceding 2 goals every game.
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 18, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
Stop. Fucking. Around.
Post by: Coyb12 on November 18, 2017, 09:43:11 PM
You know what would have been good?That would have been the sensible thing to do but we don't do sensible do we? and by the way Unsworth is a joke.
Appointing a new manager in the international break to give him ample time with the players.
It would have been good I reckon, dunno what everyone else thinks.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:43:21 PM
Post by: Robber Rodwell on November 18, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:43:43 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:43:53 PM
Sadly, my $50 NBC Gold stream has held up great this week.
Ya put it up on your TV or just watch on a phone/tablet?
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
What a fucking game... we're shit and losing, the streams are crap and when the do work have to listen to those Palace pricks chant non-stop.
Great news! The drum drum drum will be out next half :headbang:
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:44:37 PM
He's only in there because he's our record signing and we're hoping it will work.
Not good enough for Everton him lads.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:44:44 PM
We could easily go down. We are in desperate trouble in terms of what weve seen. The only arguement against it is we are everton we'll be alright
There are innumerable other professional managers who can keep us up comfortably without being corrupt anti-footballing self-promoting assholes who will set us back 3 years, minimum. And ruin our good name in the process.
Not saying we couldn't go down if things spiralled and we did nothing about it.
Post by: howard1334 on November 18, 2017, 09:44:55 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:45:04 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:45:14 PM
Ya put it up on your TV or just watch on a phone/tablet?
They're streaming games, so however you want.
Post by: gizzblue on November 18, 2017, 09:45:15 PM
Post by: duncandisorderly on November 18, 2017, 09:45:32 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:45:35 PM
Sigurdsson is shite. Are we all on the same page on him now? Does absolutely nothing. Perhaps 1 of the worst signings ever
Schneiderlin says hi
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:45:37 PM
Ya put it up on your TV or just watch on a phone/tablet?
Work laptop. So I can rant and rave on NSNO via my home laptop.
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 09:46:37 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:47:07 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:47:08 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
Post by: toffee_scot on November 18, 2017, 09:47:16 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 09:47:19 PM
Out of all the players we've bought Sigurdsson has been the worst.
He's only in there because he's our record signing and we're hoping it will work.
Not good enough for Everton him lads.
He needs dropping but you can't write him off, very few players would look good in this team
Post by: Smingers on November 18, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:47:33 PM
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 18, 2017, 09:47:35 PM
I'll be honest I'm really not sure what we bought in Sigurdsson. He's been here a while now and I still haven't seen him have a good 20 minutes yet.
Assist
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:47:43 PM
There are innumerable other professional managers who can keep us up comfortably without being corrupt anti-footballing self-promoting assholes who will set us back 3 years, minimum. And ruin our good name in the process.
Not saying we couldn't go down if things spiralled and we did nothing about it.
See this not saying we couldnt is denial. We have been shocking week in and week out. Theres nowhere for it to spiral to. We need a big upturn on this not to.
If youre the better team every week you almost certainly win the league. If youre 2nd best every week...... You get fucking relegated
OOOOOOoo Niasse/ I fucking love him
Post by: Gash on November 18, 2017, 09:47:43 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:47:49 PM
Post by: howard1334 on November 18, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
Schneiderlin says hi
Schneiderlin was at least good for half a season.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:47:59 PM
Both goals have been gift wrapped.
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2017, 09:48:13 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 09:48:14 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:48:18 PM
Great tackle, set up the counter beautifully.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:48:35 PM
OUMAR, OUMAR, OUMAR!!
Can you believe it, we would probably be at the root of the table without one man, Oumar Freaking Niasse
Post by: Ari on November 18, 2017, 09:48:38 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:48:39 PM
Post by: Fynci on November 18, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:49:19 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 09:49:23 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:49:28 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
Remember when people said he wasn't good enough to be part of our squad.
In fairness thats when we were daft enough to think we had a decent squad.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
That's got to kill Palace at half time
No assuming anything at this point.
At least we’re somehow in this.
Post by: duncandisorderly on November 18, 2017, 09:49:53 PM
Remember when people said he wasn't good enough to be part of our squad.He's now our best player!!
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 09:50:05 PM
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 18, 2017, 09:50:20 PM
Thank you Niasse, thank you Speroni!
Can you believe how long the elderly Speroni has been at Palace? I remember Cahill or maybe Arteta scoring by hitting the bar, the ball bouncing off Speroni's arse and into the net in a 3-1 win for us. 2004 maybe?
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
Imagine the irony if someone come in with a bid for Niasse in January.
Worth 25 mill right now
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on November 18, 2017, 09:50:51 PM
Post by: Bwana on November 18, 2017, 09:51:12 PM
He's going to keep us up. And I'll have to eat the humble pie. He's still shit but he knows where the net is. And that's what matters.
Post by: YellowHold on November 18, 2017, 09:51:21 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 09:51:37 PM
Ultras lol
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:51:56 PM
He's now our best player!!
He's our most effective player at the minute. The fact we're shite means we need to buy some cheap goals through sheer effort and he's keeping us above water with it at present.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:51:56 PM
Post by: toffee_scot on November 18, 2017, 09:52:23 PM
I think the Everton job is just a little too big for Unsworth just now. I'm not sure if the Everton board have done much in their search for a new manager especially during the international break.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:52:48 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:52:52 PM
Hopefully that's our shit half
HAHA fuck me we are in trouble if that was the good 45
Post by: Smingers on November 18, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
Love this guy!
Pic is the right size
he's the big man at the club.
Fully deserves it!
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 09:53:20 PM
Hugely confident after hearing the team but that evaporated after 1 minute.
Come on everton sort out my dour outlook.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 09:53:54 PM
Post by: Major Clanger on November 18, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 09:54:25 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 09:54:27 PM
That would proper fuck us right now.
Eeyore Evertonian expects it to happen now.
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 18, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
How is Pickford missing that?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
Niasse for player of the season?
Christ, who is his competition right now? Bolasie because he hasn't been part of this mess?
Post by: Major Clanger on November 18, 2017, 09:54:55 PM
All the instability and speculation this week won't have helped.
Yeah. Not only did we fail to find a manager, we succeeded in completely undermining what authority Unsworth may have had. It's complete amateur hour.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
Niasse for player of the season?
He’s on a shortlist of one right now.
Post by: TSGun on November 18, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:56:49 PM
Niasse for player of the season?
When you're in a shortlist of one you've got a decent chance of walking off with the trophy.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 09:57:06 PM
Just cant see us winning though.
Hugely confident after hearing the team but that evaporated after 1 minute.
Come on everton sort out my dour outlook.
We just look levels below the teams we play week in and week out. Its frightening how bad weve been. Our points total is way in excess of what we deserve. We need massive changes. Its a complete mess at the moment
Post by: bogie on November 18, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
As bad as we are at scoring goals, our bigger problems somehow seem to be at the back.
spot on in the prem now you need speed in defence so you can play I high line or sit back with us its all fucked up we cant play high up as we lack speed to get back and we cant sit back as are left and to some point right mid don't fall back to let the 4 defenders sit in a tight 4
for the lad looking a link of the game
http://premierleague-lives.com/live/everton-live-stream-1/channel-1/
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 09:58:50 PM
We just look levels below the teams we play week in and week out. Its frightening how bad weve been. Our points total is way in excess of what we deserve. We need massive changes. Its a complete mess at the moment
That's a lazy argument. Our points total is exactly what we deserve, it's why we have a league table. It's like the lazy argument that Niasse is shite, every week, after he scores or makes a goal, every week.
Post by: Tofifee on November 18, 2017, 10:00:08 PM
Right now I'd let Ricky Tomlinson have a go ffs
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:02:03 PM
That's a lazy argument. Our points total is exactly what we deserve, it's why we have a league table. It's like the lazy argument that Niasse is shite, every week, after he scores or makes a goal, every week.
Weve been outplayed week in and week out. Is it a lazy arguement to suggest our average points per game probably wont continue at this "high" level if the level of performance doesnt pick up.
Post by: burkey17 on November 18, 2017, 10:02:21 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
That's a lazy argument. Our points total is exactly what we deserve, it's why we have a league table. It's like the lazy argument that Niasse is shite, every week, after he scores or makes a goal, every week.
We are in a lot more trouble than our league position suggests
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 10:03:04 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Hodgson will be made up with that.
Edit: Commentators spoke too soon. Davies on. And DCL.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
It's tough to score goals, but it's irrelevant because we can't defend.
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:04:01 PM
Post by: buededw1 on November 18, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
Surely, you should be looking to control the game, if it wasn't for bad keeping and a dive we would be 2 nil down.
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:04:16 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:05:05 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:05:12 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:05:18 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:05:47 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Weve been outplayed week in and week out. Is it a lazy arguement to suggest our average points per game probably wont continue at this "high" level if the level of performance doesnt pick up.
That's a different argument. We are where we deserve to be because even though we're shite we do possess some decent players who can keep us in games.
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 10:06:22 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:06:56 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
End up 5-4 for us this.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 18, 2017, 10:07:39 PM
We are in a lot more trouble than our league position suggestsHave been for yonks, we just got to prey
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:07:43 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:07:48 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:08:10 PM
That's a different argument. We are where we deserve to be because even though we're shite we do possess some decent players who can keep us in games.
I think that was my point really. That people talk about being in trouble if it gets worse while the reality of the performances is that we are already in desperate trouble.
I know its not popular but Allardyce has a great record in these situations and Dyches burnley are winning again. We maybe need to cut our cloth accordingly
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:09:01 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:09:59 PM
I think that was my point really. That people talk about being in trouble if it gets worse while the reality of the performances is that we are already in desperate trouble.
I know its not popular but Allardyce has a great record in these situations and Dyches burnley are winning again. We maybe need to cut our cloth accordingly
Dyche is a fair enough argument. Allardyce is not.
Post by: Gash on November 18, 2017, 10:09:59 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Post by: Aussievertonian on November 18, 2017, 10:11:11 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 10:11:22 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:11:46 PM
DCL really has to do better. Its not an easy chance but he should strike it a lot cleaner
To be fair, it's come at him fast and behind him, think he's done well to get it on target really
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 10:12:03 PM
Hopefully Schneiderlin's carrying an injury as it's getting hard to defend these not arsed performances's puting in.
Looks like a player who doesn't like his job anymore. He's got his millions and a fit missus now. Job done.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:12:06 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:12:39 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:13:34 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:13:38 PM
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 10:13:41 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:13:49 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:14:04 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:14:54 PM
That's it, Schneiderlin's out of the clique.
....and into the Klaasen, Sigurdson, Rooney gang.
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
Niasse for Sandro before he gets sent off. Ref has been great for us today
The Guardian reckon he'll get three games for diving for the penalty. Fuckin highlight reel so he is. Love him.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:17:24 PM
Glad he's on our side :)
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
....and into the Klaasen, Sigurdson, Rooney gang.
They can all leave for me anyway. Most expensive waste of money as a group I've seen in my time as a fan.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:18:18 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:18:24 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:18:26 PM
The Guardian reckon he'll get three games for diving for the penalty. Fuckin highlight reel so he is. Love him.
As wet as the pitch is, you can't possibly do that if there is any contact at all (and there was). In my opinion. That said, watch us get fucked over.
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:18:28 PM
They go down as soon as someone presses them.
Groupies.
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:19:01 PM
They go down as soon as someone presses them.
Yeah the Kenny thing was a pure dive.
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:19:31 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
They can all leave for me anyway. Most expensive waste of money as a group I've seen in my time as a fan.
Keane & Sandro included?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:20:56 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:21:41 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:22:27 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:22:31 PM
Post by: toffee_scot on November 18, 2017, 10:22:54 PM
The question is not which team will win the game but which team will self-destruct the most!
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:23:02 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:24:02 PM
Unreal that we keep leaving that open space between the lines.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:24:21 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:24:37 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:24:48 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:24:56 PM
That's the pass that destroys us every single match.
Unreal that we keep leaving that open space between the lines.
Even if we don't close the space, we could at least mirror it and try and get somebody between the lines ourselves
Post by: boothill on November 18, 2017, 10:25:06 PM
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 18, 2017, 10:25:30 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:26:10 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:26:25 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:26:47 PM
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 18, 2017, 10:26:51 PM
Post by: Fynci on November 18, 2017, 10:28:12 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:28:20 PM
Safe to say we won't be winning the Fair Play league this season.
Good, nice guys finish last!
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 10:29:09 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:30:06 PM
It's sad that I'm not sure whether it would be best to bring on Sandro or Rooney.
Rooney hopefully for some calmness in possession.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:30:42 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
Davies not been great since came.on.
He's put himself about, probably the main drive behind our pressing.
Other than that though, he's not really done much
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:31:31 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:32:15 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:33:06 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:34:08 PM
Lennon!!
I was hoping you wrote that because he scored.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
Lennon has been excellent defensively. Saved us a few times.
Been our best DM and our best defender. Despite starting as a winger.
Post by: Ball8y on November 18, 2017, 10:34:25 PM
Post by: Tofifee on November 18, 2017, 10:34:34 PM
how was Gylfi played in his ideal role?
What about Keane
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:34:46 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:35:03 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 10:35:11 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:35:13 PM
The vermin will run up a cricket score against us.
All I can say is...that better be a Besic match.
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:35:19 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:35:20 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:35:45 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:35:50 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 18, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 18, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:38:29 PM
Thats a gutsy substitution there
you can't say he doesn't go for it. Had the balls to leave Rooney on the bench all 90' too.
Post by: Smingers on November 18, 2017, 10:38:45 PM
The vermin will run up a cricket score against us.
Let's worry about this game 1st. Take it one game at a time
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Post by: Fynci on November 18, 2017, 10:40:02 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:40:09 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
Sneak a goal here and we'll be the worst ever team to be in 12th place.
Be fucking delighted with that
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:41:20 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
Post by: keverton1971 on November 18, 2017, 10:41:55 PM
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 10:42:11 PM
Post by: djws1788 on November 18, 2017, 10:42:36 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on November 18, 2017, 10:42:56 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:43:01 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:43:15 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 10:43:25 PM
Post by: Tofifee on November 18, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
JJK is doing well, poor lads run ragged.
I think he's improving game by game.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
Pickford WTF, let us get up the pitch !
Easily his worst match for us.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:45:20 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:45:23 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 10:45:47 PM
Post by: kramer0 on November 18, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
Buzzing around, direct passing. I like it.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:47:27 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:48:29 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
We shouldn't be celebrating anything from this performance
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:48:36 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:48:54 PM
Pickford is really pissing me off.
Hes just extremely keen. When it works it looks great but the reality is his decision making is almost throwna way with his keanness
Post by: Fynci on November 18, 2017, 10:49:01 PM
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2017, 10:49:23 PM
Pickford is really pissing me off.
Yup.
I though him and Keane would turn out to be good.
I'm currently unconvinced.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 10:49:29 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:49:42 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:49:51 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 10:49:57 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2017, 10:52:15 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:52:38 PM
Great tracking back by DCL
He and Sandro showed good confidence today. Something to build on.
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:53:55 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 10:54:06 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
Post by: Ball8y on November 18, 2017, 10:54:31 PM
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 10:54:37 PM
Appoint a manager you bunch of know nothing womps.
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
Needs sorting that.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:55:05 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 10:55:06 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on November 18, 2017, 10:55:33 PM
Post by: Silas on November 18, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Lennon, Niasse and Kenny the decent performances from the starters.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 10:55:50 PM
Pickford knocking it back into the centre of the area again right at the death.
Needs sorting that.
He does it all the time. Not sure how anyone can be convinced by his so far
Post by: Smingers on November 18, 2017, 10:56:15 PM
Yes take that. 2-2.
After the first min then yes I suppose so. But before the match we really should have gone all out to win this one.
We were rubbish against bottom of the league. Oh dear
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 10:56:25 PM
Post by: toffee_scot on November 18, 2017, 10:56:50 PM
How the fuck did we get a result from that game.
I'll take and run like the wind but there is very little to suggest performances have improved massively since Koeman was sacked. Unsworth has had a bit more luck on his side.
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 18, 2017, 10:58:45 PM
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
Should be Unsworth's last match for us.
Post by: everton1952 on November 18, 2017, 10:59:49 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 18, 2017, 11:00:10 PM
We are very lucky Palace have a team of Stuart Barlows playing for them. Pretty piss poor that especially defensively.Don't get Lennon personally
Lennon, Niasse and Kenny the decent performances from the starters.
He's a winger who offers little
His work rate and defensive play is sound.... He's an attacker tho
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 11:00:26 PM
Post by: Bluedylan on November 18, 2017, 11:00:31 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 18, 2017, 11:00:38 PM
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:00:45 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:01:25 PM
Post by: chang on November 18, 2017, 11:01:41 PM
31% possession :bonk:
Surely Everton's coaching staff have picked up on Pickfords habit of parrying the ball back into danger - if not why not and if they have why does he still do it? :headbang:
A point is a point - but we are a very poor team,but I guess you knew that anyway ...... :hug:
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 11:02:05 PM
Don't get Lennon personally
He's a winger who offers little
His work rate and defensive play is sound.... He's an attacker tho
He just offers balance. In terms of playing the role of a right midfielder he's really good.
He's someone who likes to link up with players and as with everyone, he era the ball and there's no one writhin 30 yards of him.
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 11:03:46 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 18, 2017, 11:06:32 PM
We'll concede 2 or more goals a game if we persist with Keane.And we’ll keep clean sheets if we bring in Williams, instead?
Post by: Heisenberg on November 18, 2017, 11:06:36 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:07:32 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:08:14 PM
But Schneiderlin has soiled his underpants on too many occasions to keep getting chances.
Keane changes the entire structure of our side at both ends of the pitch, forwards get isolated as we can't push up. We drop deep because he's so easy for quick forwards to get around.
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 11:08:15 PM
Post by: blueski on November 18, 2017, 11:08:53 PM
Isn't it the mark of a good team to play badly, but still scrape a result..?Yeah but good teams create and score goals from open play
Post by: everton1952 on November 18, 2017, 11:09:13 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 11:10:21 PM
Isn't it the mark of a good team to play badly, but still scrape a result..?
No it's the mark of a good team to play well most of the time and still get results on their off days.
Being shite every week isn't the mark of a good team unfortunately. If it was we'd be favourites for the World Cup
Post by: Bluedylan on November 18, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:10:40 PM
Yeah but good teams create and score goals from open play
My comment was sarcasm :)
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 11:10:58 PM
but we're going in the right direction.
Not for me. 30% possession against the worst team in the league, conceding two goals every game and gone from 15th to 16th in the table today.
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 18, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
He just offers balance. In terms of playing the role of a right midfielder he's really good.I just think, for me, the only time I notice him is when he is defending
He's someone who likes to link up with players and as with everyone, he era the ball and there's no one writhin 30 yards of him.
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:12:54 PM
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 18, 2017, 11:13:47 PM
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
Can't afford to be getting bossed around by a team like Crystal Palace.
Should be Unsworth's last match for us.
Crystal Palace have been decent at home, they beat Chelsea not so long ago. They have very similar issues to us really, weak up front (Benteke has been out for most of their games) and leaky at the back. Not to mention fragile confidence.
It was our performance that was the first half looked a lot like the Koeman ones where we had no coherent plan in the final third. Plus ropey in the defence too.
It really should’ve been Unsworth’s last game vs Watford.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 18, 2017, 11:15:43 PM
I still can't work out how we are the only team this season to stop City winning. And we nearly got all three points there as well. :)
We were a little bit better back then. They did have a man sent off and then we defended deep with little ambition. They'd run up a cricket score if we played them now
Honestly can see us conceding 6 or 7 when we come up against a really good attacking side. The Derby is coming up isn't it
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 18, 2017, 11:16:45 PM
Isn't it the mark of a good team to play badly, but still scrape a result..?
I got it ;)
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:16:58 PM
Not for me. 30% possession against the worst team in the league, conceding two goals every game and gone from 15th to 16th in the table today.
What I mean about going in the right direction is, we're fighting for possession. Teams were walking it in, not so long ago. :)
Post by: blueToffee on November 18, 2017, 11:17:21 PM
Post by: everton1952 on November 18, 2017, 11:19:43 PM
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:21:02 PM
We were a little bit better back then. They did have a man sent off and then we defended deep with little ambition. They'd run up a cricket score if we played them now
Honestly can see us conceding 6 or 7 when we come up against a really good attacking side. The Derby is coming up isn't it
Don't mention the Derby. Haha! It's a nightmare just thinking about it.
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2017, 11:21:49 PM
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 18, 2017, 11:22:05 PM
It's like no-one's ever seen a team suffering a crisis of confidence and badly organised before. Keane's not shit. He's just not playing well and is in a team that's a bit all over the place.
I think the concern is that we're pushing on to almost halfway through the season and there are few signs of it improving.
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 11:22:49 PM
Sandro did well when he come on
Deserves to start the Atalanta game
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 18, 2017, 11:23:58 PM
I think he's doing as well as can be reasonably expected under the circumstances.
Post by: ally2 on November 18, 2017, 11:24:50 PM
What I mean about going in the right direction is, we're fighting for possession. Teams were walking it in, not so long ago. :)
Oh I see. Maybe. The energy you see from Davies and Niasse (mainly) I think is misleading. It's pseudo-pressing which is not sustainable. Everyone has to do it and understand it. It's bloody difficult when
1. The team changes
2. The defence drops so deep
3. We can't keep possession when we do get the ball
Post by: Bluedylan on November 18, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
I think the concern is that we're pushing on to almost halfway through the season and there are few signs of it improving.
It won't improve properly til we get a manager in with specific ideas who can drill the players day after day.
Unsworth's just fire fighting in a very difficult situation, and somehow we've blagged 4 points from the last two games based on enthusiasm and not much else.
None of these players are going to look good until we get a shape and a way of playing that is robust and repeatable.
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:26:16 PM
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:30:31 PM
I got it ;)
Thank god somebody did lol
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 11:31:54 PM
It won't improve properly til we get a manager in with specific ideas who can drill the players day after day.
Unsworth's just fire fighting in a very difficult situation, and somehow we've blagged 4 points from the last two games based on enthusiasm and not much else.
None of these players are going to look good until we get a shape and a way of playing that is robust and repeatable.
A few seem to have an attitude problem which won't be helping dressing room morale either. Shipping the under-performers out the door in January to get fresh blood in might be a necessary way to move forwards.
Post by: pjk on November 18, 2017, 11:32:27 PM
Oh I see. Maybe. The energy you see from Davies and Niasse (mainly) I think is misleading. It's pseudo-pressing which is not sustainable. Everyone has to do it and understand it. It's bloody difficult when
1. The team changes
2. The defence drops so deep
3. We can't keep possession when we do get the ball
I missed the first half and can only comment on the effort second half. Despite us not looking too organized, we still got something out of the game. But you're right, it's not good enough scraping a draw against the bottom club. :)
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 11:35:27 PM
Lot of Twitter folk going ape shit, saying Niasse should be banned for diving
Post by: Bluedylan on November 18, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
A few seem to have an attitude problem which won't be helping dressing room morale either. Shipping the under-performers out the door in January to get fresh blood in might be a necessary way to move forwards.
Aye, if that has to happen, so be it. There's a few who don't seem to fancy it.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:38:53 PM
https://twitter.com/cpfcgoals2/status/931907531500167168
Lot of Twitter folk going ape shit, saying Niasse should be banned for diving
Stevie G was his idol.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:40:05 PM
https://twitter.com/cpfcgoals2/status/931907531500167168
Lot of Twitter folk going ape shit, saying Niasse should be banned for diving
Clearly steps across him and it's soft as can be, but there's clear contact and attempt to unbalance.
Ref had ideal position to see Dann's movement and that's what he was watching. If he was watching Niasse, he'd have seen it was quite soft.
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 18, 2017, 11:40:05 PM
It won't improve properly til we get a manager in with specific ideas who can drill the players day after day.
Unsworth's just fire fighting in a very difficult situation, and somehow we've blagged 4 points from the last two games based on enthusiasm and not much else.
None of these players are going to look good until we get a shape and a way of playing that is robust and repeatable.
That sounds nice in theory but it's not that straightforward. It's not like Unsy, or Koeman before him, have no specific ideas that they are trying to implement, that they think will work to win football games, and that they are working on in training. Of course they are, that's why they get paid a shit load of money.
Our problems to me seem to run deeper than figuring out the right formation and game plan and I'm struggling to be honest to know exactly what it is that needs fixing.
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 11:40:11 PM
Stevie G was his idol.
Stevie G never dived, he 'forced the foul'
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
Stevie G never dived, he 'forced the foul'
Sorry. I spelt Ashley Yound wrong.
Post by: blargins on November 18, 2017, 11:40:52 PM
Post by: Silas on November 18, 2017, 11:41:16 PM
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:46:32 PM
Keane isn't the issue as such in defence. A total lack of pace in the centre is. Even are DM's aren't quick enough or powerful enough.
1st goal he was the weak link. 2nd goal, he should be cutting out cross at front post.
Those were only the ones they scored from, he let Benteke in behind a couple of times, plus several others.
Post by: bluenuck on November 18, 2017, 11:48:03 PM
In my opinion we just need to not lose a game up untill the derby. Hopefully the players can build some confidence and then we can actually show up for it.
Post by: blueski on November 18, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
My comment was sarcasm :)kind of figured
Post by: Silas on November 18, 2017, 11:48:59 PM
1st goal he was the weak link. 2nd goal, he should be cutting out cross at front post.
Those were only the ones they scored from, he let Benteke in behind a couple of times, plus several others.
I'm talking generally not about today as such. He's been poor to average but any defender would struggle to settle in this team right now. A quicker partner would benefit him greatly
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:49:07 PM
https://twitter.com/SocceHighlight/status/931939203142832129
Exhibit B. Should be cutting that out at front post.
https://twitter.com/SocceHighlight/status/931939747370553344
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 18, 2017, 11:51:09 PM
That sounds nice in theory but it's not that straightforward. It's not like Unsy, or Koeman before him, have no specific ideas that they are trying to implement, that they think will work to win football games, and that they are working on in training. Of course they are, that's why they get paid a shit load of money.Yep. The consensus has been that Koeman was a shit manager, so all we need to do is get a decent manager and we’ll be back in contention to finish 6th.
Our problems to me seem to run deeper than figuring out the right formation and game plan and I'm struggling to be honest to know exactly what it is that needs fixing.
Much more to it than that.
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:51:41 PM
I'm talking generally not about today as such. He's been poor to average but any defender would struggle to settle in this team right now. A quicker partner would benefit him greatly
Doesn't matter who's alongside him, opponent chooses who to isolate or focus on.
As I said before he's a good defender, very good passer. He just has a weakness and it's constantly exploited.
Post by: blueski on November 18, 2017, 11:52:41 PM
Exhibit A. Loftus-Cheek given space and easily turned to get shot away.
Exhibit B. Should be cutting that out at front post.
the first was bad more because the team just didn't switch on as a whole
I feel like Pickford should have done more on the 2nd though, he has to be anticipating a cross into the 6yd box from where the player is
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 11:52:48 PM
https://twitter.com/cpfcgoals2/status/931907531500167168
Lot of Twitter folk going ape shit, saying Niasse should be banned for diving
No worse than the likes of Alexis Sanchez and others do every week.
Post by: Cozzie on November 18, 2017, 11:55:58 PM
No way we are making that up.
What a job Dyche is doing.
Post by: bluenuck on November 18, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
Exhibit A. Loftus-Cheek given space and easily turned to get shot away.
https://twitter.com/SocceHighlight/status/931939203142832129
Exhibit B. Should be cutting that out at front post.
https://twitter.com/SocceHighlight/status/931939747370553344
So, so easy
Post by: Ridge on November 18, 2017, 11:57:10 PM
the first was bad more because the team just didn't switch on as a whole
I feel like Pickford should have done more on the 2nd though, he has to be anticipating a cross into the 6yd box from where the player is
Jagielka and Pickford are trying to rescue a situation that shouldn't have got as far as them. You can't always cut out every cross and sometimes you'll get caught out, but this is simple ones on regular basis. It's not all his fault, he's just not quick enough.
Back a couple of years and you'd be playing big lumps and he's in his element. But with quick players and movement, he's someone you have to carry or cover.
Post by: Macca77 on November 18, 2017, 11:58:46 PM
10 points off 7th now.
No way we are making that up.
What a job Dyche is doing.
Behave, loads of games left, we'll be there or thereabouts, Burnley will end up in the bottom half
Post by: boothill on November 18, 2017, 11:58:58 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 18, 2017, 11:59:22 PM
Post by: Lxxx on November 19, 2017, 12:01:14 AM
According to merseyside baines and keane were still chatting to each other for their 1st goal and were not switche on at all
Well you can see from the replay we weren't set at the back. It's only the first minute but still unprofessional.
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2017, 12:08:05 AM
Post by: boothill on November 19, 2017, 12:09:31 AM
Well you can see from the replay we weren't set at the back. It's only the first minute but still unprofessional.Very, if thats the case, surely you should be ready to tear a new arsehole out the opposition just as you cross the white line
Post by: blueski on November 19, 2017, 12:11:01 AM
Jagielka and Pickford are trying to rescue a situation that shouldn't have got as far as them. You can't always cut out every cross and sometimes you'll get caught out, but this is simple ones on regular basis. It's not all his fault, he's just not quick enough.Pickford definitely had a play in getting a result though based on those saves he made down the stretch.
Back a couple of years and you'd be playing big lumps and he's in his element. But with quick players and movement, he's someone you have to carry or cover.
Would be nice to see him get a clean sheet though at some point
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 19, 2017, 12:14:15 AM
Behave, loads of games left, we'll be there or thereabouts, Burnley will end up in the bottom half
You think we'll be close to 7th. There's absolutely no evidence of that when we play football. I think most won't accept we are in trouble unless we go adrift
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2017, 12:17:02 AM
You think we'll be close to 7th. There's absolutely no evidence of that when we play football. I think most won't accept we are in trouble unless we go adrift
We'll finish 7th or 8th
Post by: blueski on November 19, 2017, 12:17:40 AM
Keane can't be what he's not. He's not blessed with pace and alongside others without any pace either side he's going to be the one looked at to provide it due to his age but it's not him. Let's see what he's like next to a younger left back and centre half before writing him off. Although I do think he has been poor so far, like many others.honestly this is really on Koeman and Walsh. I don't know how you can think in the modern game you can get away with a lack of pace at the back. Unless Keane is being bought as a 3rd or 4th choice centre half, I can't see the sense of committing to a set up where our defence can't get forward.
really think a main priority in the window has to be solving that problem, nearly as important as a goal scorer
we haven't been this bereft of pace at the back for ages. Coleman, Stones, Funes Mori etc. Funes is a crazy defender at times but credit where its due he had all the pace required to make up for errors. Right now we have none.
Post by: TheTone on November 19, 2017, 12:23:31 AM
We'll finish 7th or 8th from bottom
fixed
Post by: Lxxx on November 19, 2017, 12:29:18 AM
honestly this is really on Koeman and Walsh. I don't know how you can think in the modern game you can get away with a lack of pace at the back. Unless Keane is being bought as a 3rd or 4th choice centre half, I can't see the sense of committing to a set up where our defence can't get forward.
really think a main priority in the window has to be solving that problem, nearly as important as a goal scorer
we haven't been this bereft of pace at the back for ages. Coleman, Stones, Funes Mori etc. Funes is a crazy defender at times but credit where its due he had all the pace required to make up for errors. Right now we have none.
I agree. The whole recruitment looked very slapdash and without much thought. Keane is an 18 yard box defender which is fine if that's your game plan but it shouldn't be ours. However let's see him with better, pacier defenders around him. John Terry for example wasn't blessed with great pace but he always played with good athletic players around him.
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2017, 12:31:03 AM
fixed
You little swine!!
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 19, 2017, 12:40:25 AM
We'll finish 7th or 8th
Without a serious upturn in performances (which there's currently no sign of) I think there's a fair chance we could go down.
Obviously when the window opens we might buy our way out or hopefully Bolasie, Coleman and barkley can make contributions but this team under this management. We'd be lucky to survive from the evidence we see on maychdays
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2017, 12:49:14 AM
Without a serious upturn in performances (which there's currently no sign of) I think there's a fair chance we could go down.
Obviously when the window opens we might buy our way out or hopefully Bolasie, Coleman and barkley can make contributions but this team under this management. We'd be lucky to survive from the evidence we see on maychdays
Nah, we'll be fine, don't think we can win the league now though which is annoying
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 19, 2017, 01:02:09 AM
Nah, we'll be fine, don't think we can win the league now though which is annoying
I'd still take 4th
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 19, 2017, 01:05:44 AM
I'd still take 4th from bottom
Fixed.
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 19, 2017, 01:06:48 AM
Can't argue with that........
Post by: TheTone on November 19, 2017, 01:12:56 AM
P W D L GF GA GD Pts
12 5 4 3 16 14 +2 19 NOV 2016
12 3 3 6 12 24 -12 12 NOV 2017
Post by: everton1952 on November 19, 2017, 01:41:54 AM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 19, 2017, 01:58:48 AM
Are we doomed then? Unsie looked happy enough. Of course some people are never happy. Hodgson was very unhappy.
I don't think were doomed but we're not going to turn it round over night. Players seem to think the confidence is coming back. Next prem game I'd go with the same team but swap Morgan for Beni or Davies. 2 games with no losses, onwards and upwards.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 19, 2017, 02:04:49 AM
Post by: TheTone on November 19, 2017, 02:10:47 AM
Got to be happy with a point today but still looked like U/12s team.
:Lookman:
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 19, 2017, 02:14:08 AM
Post by: Martip on November 19, 2017, 03:10:23 AM
We'll finish 7th or 8thLiked simply for optimism although firmly disagree
Post by: boothill on November 19, 2017, 03:21:31 AM
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 19, 2017, 03:56:33 AM
Clearly a better option than Silva.
Post by: American Evertonian on November 19, 2017, 03:57:16 AM
Are we doomed then? Unsie looked happy enough. Of course some people are never happy. Hodgson was very unhappy.
Don't think we are doomed but def feel that Unsy is not the man to take over full time.
Post by: therealdunc on November 19, 2017, 04:37:17 AM
1st goal he was the weak link. 2nd goal, he should be cutting out cross at front post.
Those were only the ones they scored from, he let Benteke in behind a couple of times, plus several others.
Keane is an average defender, why has no one else asked why no one else went in for him other than Everton?
Every other club could see he needs to sit deep as his pace is non existent and he isn’t very good at reading the game.
We’ve brought a worse version of jagielka and jagielka is getting closer to 40 than 30 and has no legs.
So much for Steve Walsh’s brilliant scouting insight
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2017, 04:49:26 AM
Without a serious upturn in performances (which there's currently no sign of) I think there's a fair chance we could go down.Forget about Barkley, give a fuck if he plays again or not.
Obviously when the window opens we might buy our way out or hopefully Bolasie, Coleman and barkley can make contributions but this team under this management. We'd be lucky to survive from the evidence we see on maychd
ays
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2017, 04:54:40 AM
Keane is an average defender, why has no one else asked why no one else went in for him other than Everton?
Man Utd were after him.
Post by: therealdunc on November 19, 2017, 05:01:10 AM
Man Utd were after him.
I know for a fact they where not.
When Keane joined us he did an interview and stated Everton where the only club to make an offer to Burnley
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2017, 05:21:24 AM
I know for a fact they where not.
When Keane joined us he did an interview and stated Everton where the only club to make an offer to Burnley
He did?
Post by: therealdunc on November 19, 2017, 05:25:46 AM
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2017, 05:38:01 AM
He was asked why it took so long to get it over the like mad he said he wasn’t sure as Everton where the only team who came in for him and the only club he wanted to join
He did?
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 19, 2017, 05:53:19 AM
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 19, 2017, 07:50:18 AM
Post by: velimski on November 19, 2017, 08:25:51 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 19, 2017, 01:32:20 PM
Palace scored 1/3 of all its goals this season... against us, today.
Conceding 2 goals can happen regardless of performance. The frightening thing is they dominated us and could have had more too. I keep saying this but performances have been a hell of a lot worse than our shitty results. Everyone assumes it will get better but all evidence we are currently seeing says it will get a lot worse
Played almost a third of a season and haven't outplayed anyone yet. We've probably not even had a 45 minutes where we've been in control.
We absolutely have to get a manager in this week.
Post by: everton1952 on November 19, 2017, 01:58:57 PM
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2017, 02:49:29 PM
Man Utd were after him.
So were Liverpool
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2017, 03:06:27 PM
Taken me 9 hours to travel home 5 miles from Selhurst park. #shitfaced
One of the shitiest ground locations in the PL, to stand any chance of getting back to Victoria within 2 hours from Norwood Junction you have to leave the ground ten minutes before the end.
Post by: Morta75 on November 19, 2017, 03:10:59 PM
Need to get in a proven manager ASAP.
Post by: Lxxx on November 19, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
Man Utd were after him.
I don't think they ever really were. If they even so much as sniffed around his agent he'd have been there in a flash. Massive Man U fan.
Post by: Lxxx on November 19, 2017, 03:36:17 PM
One of the shitiest ground locations in the PL, to stand any chance of getting back to Victoria within 2 hours from Norwood Junction you have to leave the ground ten minutes before the end.
You don't even want to get a cheap hotel in that area either and go for a few bevvies and stay over. Horrible place.
Post by: pjk on November 19, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Post by: boothill on November 19, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
You don't even want to get a cheap hotel in that area either and go for a few bevvies and stay over. Horrible place.Went there years ago when charlton played there, terrible place to find. Turned up at the athletics stadium twice, went round buckingham palace dont know how many times. Fella shouts at the driver "eh cunthooks, your at the wrong fuckin palace"had to be on the coach i suppose. Manage to get there just as newall bagged the winner. Barnes travel, got to love em
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 19, 2017, 05:52:53 PM
How did we not lose?
How did we score a goal let alone 2?
thankyou King Niasse!
Post by: gizzblue on November 19, 2017, 06:00:42 PM
We got outplayed by the bottom team, they carved us open time after time.Imho ...if we had two players in their pomp of form like Zaha and Loftus Cheek it would drag the rest of our shite up to scratch.
How did we not lose?
How did we score a goal let alone 2?
thankyou King Niasse!
Post by: velimski on November 19, 2017, 11:29:09 PM
One of the shitiest ground locations in the PL, to stand any chance of getting back to Victoria within 2 hours from Norwood Junction you have to leave the ground ten minutes before the end.
You can normally get the train to/from Thornton Heath from Victoria. That line had engineering works yesterday which is why it was even more chaotic than usual at Norwood Junction.
They were running rail replacement buses from Thornton Heath but I imagine it would have been chaos there too. I just got on a local bus and went to Streatham, so it wasn't too bad.
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2017, 11:55:49 PM
You can normally get the train to/from Thornton Heath from Victoria. That line had engineering works yesterday which is why it was even more chaotic than usual at Norwood Junction.
They were running rail replacement buses from Thornton Heath but I imagine it would have been chaos there too. I just got on a local bus and went to Streatham, so it wasn't too bad.
Doubt we'll need to worry about going there next season (unless we're both in the Championship of course) !